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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,990 --> 00:00:32,926 I could have a bum, I could have been in jail, 2 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:36,537 I could have been dead, but I worked my ass off to get here. 3 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:47,757 You know, you hear a lot of negative things about Dennis rodman, 4 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,600 but people don't actually know Dennis rodman. 5 00:00:49,675 --> 00:00:52,555 They just see what they see on the court and what they read in the papers 6 00:00:52,637 --> 00:00:54,680 and say, "god, he's a bad person." 7 00:01:02,313 --> 00:01:05,066 No, I just think that I created this monster. 8 00:01:08,110 --> 00:01:11,989 But nobody can say anything bad about me as a teammate. 9 00:01:13,407 --> 00:01:15,117 You know, you got the great Michael Jordan, 10 00:01:15,201 --> 00:01:17,828 the great scottie pippen, the great Phil Jackson, 11 00:01:17,912 --> 00:01:22,375 but if you take me away from this team, do they still win a championship? 12 00:01:24,001 --> 00:01:25,169 I don't think so. 13 00:01:27,171 --> 00:01:28,714 I love Michael Jordan to death. 14 00:01:28,798 --> 00:01:30,800 I love scottie pippen, all these guys, 15 00:01:30,883 --> 00:01:33,427 but they really don't do the things that I do. 16 00:01:37,515 --> 00:01:39,493 I'm the only guy to go out there and do all the dirty work, 17 00:01:39,517 --> 00:01:41,644 taking abuse from other players. 18 00:01:43,145 --> 00:01:44,706 I want to go out there and get my nose broken, 19 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:46,010 I want go out there and get cut. 20 00:01:47,191 --> 00:01:52,738 Something that's going to really just bring out the hurt, the pain. 21 00:01:53,489 --> 00:01:54,615 I want to feel that. 22 00:01:58,244 --> 00:02:00,079 A spectacular move! 23 00:02:00,162 --> 00:02:01,473 And the game's over! 24 00:02:01,497 --> 00:02:03,708 Chicago stadium is going wild! 25 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:07,938 First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. 26 00:02:07,962 --> 00:02:09,482 It's time for me to move on. 27 00:02:09,797 --> 00:02:12,357 This will be Phil's last year as the coach of the bulls. 28 00:02:13,884 --> 00:02:15,594 Are the expectations way too high? 29 00:02:15,678 --> 00:02:16,905 Where do we go from here? 30 00:02:16,929 --> 00:02:19,432 The only question: How long can it last? 31 00:02:35,906 --> 00:02:39,243 They still m/ght be considered world champs, but so far this season, 32 00:02:39,327 --> 00:02:42,580 the Chicago Bulls have looked more like that old circus act from the '80s 33 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:45,041 called Michael and his jordana/res. 34 00:02:45,124 --> 00:02:48,377 The defending champs need help. They're reeling, looking average. 35 00:02:49,003 --> 00:02:50,880 As for ll/lj's supporting cast, 36 00:02:50,963 --> 00:02:53,257 rodman is having trouble getting out of the gate. 37 00:03:09,273 --> 00:03:10,593 Let's go, let's go, fellas. 38 00:03:12,777 --> 00:03:14,838 First meeting featuring Michael the player 39 00:03:14,862 --> 00:03:16,155 against Larry the coach. 40 00:03:16,238 --> 00:03:18,074 Bulls and pacers. 41 00:03:19,116 --> 00:03:22,495 Dennis rodman blocked by Dale Davis. Reggie Miller. 42 00:03:22,578 --> 00:03:25,456 Look at the crossover. R/ght past Jordan for the hoop. 43 00:03:25,539 --> 00:03:28,000 Phil jackso... We've seen that look before this year. 44 00:03:28,084 --> 00:03:30,795 Pacers go on to the win, dropping the bulls to 8-7. 45 00:03:30,878 --> 00:03:34,006 Last season, Chicago didn't lose their seventh until game 56. 46 00:03:34,090 --> 00:03:35,633 We missed a lot of easy shots. 47 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:38,219 You know, we haven't really shot the ball particularly well. 48 00:03:38,302 --> 00:03:40,888 But, tonight, what killed us was our rebounding. 49 00:03:40,971 --> 00:03:42,473 Our rebounding was horrendous. 50 00:03:43,182 --> 00:03:45,463 We couldn't get the rebound. We couldn't clear the boards. 51 00:03:47,812 --> 00:03:49,021 Dennis is... 52 00:03:49,105 --> 00:03:51,899 He's kind of lagging back there behind everybody else in, 53 00:03:51,982 --> 00:03:55,069 you know, his enthusiasm for the game right now. 54 00:03:55,152 --> 00:04:01,450 Dennis rodman's the best on-ball defender I've ever seen in 30 years. 55 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:07,915 The problem was that he wasn't always motivated to play. 56 00:04:07,998 --> 00:04:10,459 It's another one of those periods that I'm bored as hell 57 00:04:10,543 --> 00:04:14,213 and I got to find some way to put a log on the fire. 58 00:04:18,259 --> 00:04:20,511 You know, I didn't see it that way. 59 00:04:21,303 --> 00:04:22,888 There's a lot of things I don't see. 60 00:04:27,393 --> 00:04:29,520 Most of the time, though, I see the shit you do. 61 00:04:33,941 --> 00:04:38,028 Dennis hadn't accepted the role that scottie wasn't gonna be around, 62 00:04:38,112 --> 00:04:40,072 and we needed you to be more accountable. 63 00:04:40,156 --> 00:04:41,699 I need to count on you. 64 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:47,872 So around that time, we had a game, and he gets kicked out for some shit. 65 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:51,584 And I'm livid because he got kicked out of the game 66 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:54,628 and leaves me out there by myself. 'Cause scottie's not playing. 67 00:04:54,712 --> 00:04:57,923 And Dennis knew he fucked up. He knew he screwed up. 68 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,179 I hear someone knocking on my door at the hotel. 69 00:05:03,262 --> 00:05:05,306 Now, Dennis never comes to my room. 70 00:05:05,389 --> 00:05:07,933 And he comes and said, "man, you got an extra cigar?" 71 00:05:08,809 --> 00:05:11,645 I went to Michael Jordan's room, asked for a cigar, 72 00:05:11,729 --> 00:05:13,939 but I think that he knew the fact that, you know, 73 00:05:14,023 --> 00:05:18,569 that I think that's probably his way of me showing him that, you know, man, 74 00:05:18,652 --> 00:05:21,071 my thing, my bad. 75 00:05:21,655 --> 00:05:23,824 He didn't say an apology, he didn't say anything, 76 00:05:23,908 --> 00:05:25,826 but by him coming to my room, 77 00:05:25,910 --> 00:05:27,995 it was his way of saying, "look, man, I fucked up." 78 00:05:29,205 --> 00:05:32,750 And from that point on, Dennis was straight as an arrow. 79 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:34,168 And we started to win. 80 00:05:34,251 --> 00:05:37,046 I'd like to ask all y'all one question: What time is it? 81 00:05:37,129 --> 00:05:38,422 Game time! Whoo! 82 00:05:48,807 --> 00:05:52,728 When scottie left, I think Mike had a lot of confidence in me to... 83 00:05:52,811 --> 00:05:54,438 Knowing that I'm gonna be there for him. 84 00:05:54,522 --> 00:05:56,875 I'm no going to let him down, I'm not going to let the team down, 85 00:05:56,899 --> 00:05:58,817 let the city down, no. 86 00:06:01,070 --> 00:06:03,510 Rodman clears the defensive board for the bulls. 87 00:06:06,492 --> 00:06:10,120 The nets gave it a whirl but just did not have enough. 88 00:06:10,204 --> 00:06:15,876 The defending champion Chicago Bulls knocked off the New Jersey nets 700-92. 89 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,171 Dennis is what held us together when scottie was out. 90 00:06:19,255 --> 00:06:22,967 He had to really focus to make us as competitive as we were. 91 00:06:23,926 --> 00:06:27,638 We adapt, and we adapt quickly, and we're off and running. 92 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:30,891 Rodman battling for the rebound, saving it in/ 93 00:06:30,975 --> 00:06:34,353 and kerr snatches it out of the air, drills it/ 94 00:06:34,436 --> 00:06:37,147 now, that's... that's winning basketball. 95 00:06:37,231 --> 00:06:42,528 Those are the plays that Dennis rodman does to make his team great. 96 00:06:42,611 --> 00:06:44,238 A wesome. 97 00:06:56,333 --> 00:06:59,086 As a black kid living in projects, 98 00:06:59,169 --> 00:07:00,796 life was really fuckin' nuts, right. 99 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:02,381 It was like, "whoa." 100 00:07:04,717 --> 00:07:07,136 My mother drove buses for the school. 101 00:07:07,219 --> 00:07:10,806 And she got sick and tired of my ass not providing, not doing anything. 102 00:07:10,889 --> 00:07:14,476 And I think I was... what was I, 18? 103 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,312 She just got tired of me and kicked me out, 104 00:07:16,395 --> 00:07:18,397 so, basically, I lived in the street for two years. 105 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:22,735 I was just trying to bounce around, see where I could stay at. 106 00:07:23,986 --> 00:07:26,447 People's backyard, my friend's backyard, stuff like that, 107 00:07:26,530 --> 00:07:28,758 so I could have been a drug dealer, I could have been dead, 108 00:07:28,782 --> 00:07:31,160 I could have been, shit, anything, man, at that time. 109 00:07:32,161 --> 00:07:35,873 I don't know why I never did that drug stuff, but I never did. 110 00:07:35,956 --> 00:07:39,251 I'd just sit there and watch them do it, watch them sell it and stuff like that, 111 00:07:39,335 --> 00:07:40,878 and I'd walk out the door every day. 112 00:07:40,961 --> 00:07:44,131 Go to the gym, come back, do the same thing every day. 113 00:07:44,214 --> 00:07:47,635 I was just fortunate to start... Pick up a basketball and start playing. 114 00:07:49,762 --> 00:07:53,223 And I just got lucky that, you know, some guy from some college said, 115 00:07:53,307 --> 00:07:54,367 "Dennis, you want to play for us?" 116 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:55,768 I said, "all right, great." 117 00:07:57,853 --> 00:07:59,271 I went balls out every time. 118 00:07:59,355 --> 00:08:01,398 I don't know, I just knew how to go full speed. 119 00:08:02,524 --> 00:08:07,488 So when I was at college, I averaged, like, 27 points, 14, 15 rebounds a game. 120 00:08:12,409 --> 00:08:14,828 I'm trying to, you know, get through school, you know, 121 00:08:14,912 --> 00:08:19,833 try to get a degree and things, you know. And whatever's... 122 00:08:19,917 --> 00:08:23,212 You know, when I finish school, I'll just, you know, hope for the best. 123 00:08:23,295 --> 00:08:25,335 We just had two other picks here in the second round 124 00:08:25,381 --> 00:08:26,691 that I'll give to you very quickly. 125 00:08:26,715 --> 00:08:28,801 Greg dreiling went to Indiana, the big center, 126 00:08:28,884 --> 00:08:32,388 and Dennis rodman, the youngster from southeast Oklahoma state, 127 00:08:32,471 --> 00:08:36,016 went to Detroit as the 27th pick in the 1986 draft. 128 00:08:37,059 --> 00:08:38,620 When he first came to Detroit, 129 00:08:38,644 --> 00:08:42,398 he was just an innocent, beautiful person. 130 00:08:42,481 --> 00:08:45,859 But a little naive about, like, the world. 131 00:08:46,652 --> 00:08:49,405 He was simple at that time. 132 00:08:49,488 --> 00:08:51,740 Like, he would say, "man, you don't know life 133 00:08:51,824 --> 00:08:55,160 till you can just go out, get away from everybody, 134 00:08:55,244 --> 00:08:58,205 make a fire, you know, cook your food outside, 135 00:08:58,288 --> 00:08:59,415 and just look at the stars." 136 00:09:01,625 --> 00:09:03,812 I think the second and third year in the league, 137 00:09:03,836 --> 00:09:06,296 I actually figured out what I can do best... 138 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:07,840 Rebound and play defense. 139 00:09:10,092 --> 00:09:12,636 Basically, I just started learning how to perfect that. 140 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,930 Holy cow! How about this 7 141 00:09:15,013 --> 00:09:17,015 I just used to have my friends late at night, 142 00:09:17,099 --> 00:09:19,435 shit, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning, we go to the gym. 143 00:09:19,518 --> 00:09:20,853 I'd say, "shoot the ball. 144 00:09:20,936 --> 00:09:23,540 Shoot over here, shoot over here, shoot over there, shoot over there." 145 00:09:23,564 --> 00:09:25,858 I'd just sit there and react, react. 146 00:09:26,775 --> 00:09:30,446 I just practiced a lot about the angle of the ball and the trajectory of it. 147 00:09:30,529 --> 00:09:34,366 You got a Larry bird, it's gonna spin. You got a magic, it'll maybe spin. 148 00:09:34,450 --> 00:09:37,286 When Michael shoot over here, I'd position myself right there. 149 00:09:37,369 --> 00:09:39,955 Now it hit the rim, it's boom, uh. 150 00:09:40,038 --> 00:09:42,416 Click and go back this way. Boom, here to here. 151 00:09:42,499 --> 00:09:44,793 Click, it'll go that way. Boom, that way. 152 00:09:44,877 --> 00:09:46,628 Click here and go like this way. 153 00:09:46,712 --> 00:09:48,189 So, basically, I just started learning 154 00:09:48,213 --> 00:09:50,191 how to put myself in a position to get the ball. 155 00:09:50,215 --> 00:09:52,843 Rebound kept alive by rodman. 156 00:09:53,594 --> 00:09:56,638 I was pretty much like that rash... On players. 157 00:09:56,722 --> 00:09:58,766 Always that rash you can't ever get rid of, right? 158 00:10:02,811 --> 00:10:07,149 Dennis rodman was the fuck-up person. He just fucks everything up. 159 00:10:08,025 --> 00:10:11,945 He's a pest, shuttin' down whoever he wanted to. 160 00:10:12,571 --> 00:10:14,615 It was always a challenge. 161 00:10:14,698 --> 00:10:16,033 He was one of them players 162 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:18,827 that would change the game just by his presence. 163 00:10:20,037 --> 00:10:22,182 I'll tell you, you talk about coaches' dreams... 164 00:10:22,206 --> 00:10:23,665 There aren't many players like him. 165 00:10:23,749 --> 00:10:27,544 Couldn't be a player I'm more proud of and proud to be associated with. 166 00:10:27,628 --> 00:10:30,130 He had a great relationship with Chuck daly. 167 00:10:30,214 --> 00:10:32,508 Chuck was the only person that understood him. 168 00:10:32,591 --> 00:10:35,886 Here. Let's say you got stop sign, you're in here playing your defense. 169 00:10:35,969 --> 00:10:37,054 Lock him here. 170 00:10:37,137 --> 00:10:39,890 I remember one time I was working with Dennis, 171 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:42,518 and then Chuck called me over, and he said, 172 00:10:42,601 --> 00:10:46,730 "just leave him alone. You don't put a saddle on a mustang. 173 00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:56,949 - Did you have that reputation? - No. I built that in Detroit. 174 00:10:57,032 --> 00:11:01,286 There's no disputing that Detroit is one of the most physical teams in the NBA, 175 00:11:01,370 --> 00:11:03,121 and it's all part of their strategy 176 00:11:03,205 --> 00:11:05,749 to take their opponents out of their rhythm. 177 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:12,673 The Detroit pistons were the epitome of the physical, tough, 178 00:11:12,756 --> 00:11:16,176 hard-nosed brand of half-court basketball. 179 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:23,225 They had big, strong guys in laimbeer, and mahorn, rodman, salley. 180 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:25,936 They had a great defensive player in Joe dumars. 181 00:11:26,019 --> 00:11:27,813 They had Isiah Thomas. 182 00:11:33,026 --> 00:11:34,820 I don't think they cared. 183 00:11:36,613 --> 00:11:40,409 I/I/I/kins gets knocked to the deck, and watch ll/lahorn. 184 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,246 Rivers... oh, pushed hard/ 185 00:11:44,329 --> 00:11:46,248 I mean, he was driven to the floor. 186 00:11:47,124 --> 00:11:48,625 At that time in the NBA, 187 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:50,794 basically, you could do anything you want. 188 00:11:50,878 --> 00:11:54,506 - Compared to today... - 30 years ago, shit. 189 00:11:54,590 --> 00:11:58,302 Back then, you could just sit there and just literally beat people up. 190 00:11:58,385 --> 00:12:01,346 And still get away with it without a technical or anything. 191 00:12:01,430 --> 00:12:04,516 Dennis rodman and lohaus 192 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,310 under the basket going at it. 193 00:12:07,895 --> 00:12:10,606 We're like a hockey team. Everybody want to see us fight. 194 00:12:10,689 --> 00:12:13,317 Rick mahorn told me how to elbow and said, 195 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,694 "if you hit somebody, do it on purpose." 196 00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:19,323 Don't get a cheap foul, that's stupid. If you gonna hit him, hit him. 197 00:12:19,406 --> 00:12:22,993 The acquired the moniker the "bad boys." 198 00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:28,248 They played a tough, intimidating style, and a lot of people didn't like it 199 00:12:28,332 --> 00:12:31,293 'cause it was getting away from the beauty of basketball. 200 00:12:31,376 --> 00:12:33,795 Bird and laimbeer go at it. 201 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:35,797 We weren't the league's favorite. 202 00:12:35,881 --> 00:12:38,550 We weren't the pretty team 203 00:12:38,634 --> 00:12:41,887 that had got invited to the Lakers' and celtics' party. 204 00:12:41,970 --> 00:12:43,513 When we showed up, 205 00:12:43,597 --> 00:12:46,141 it was almost like we were crashing their party. 206 00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:49,186 This is the way the game of basketball was played at the time. 207 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:52,230 These guys on the other side may not be as talented, 208 00:12:52,314 --> 00:12:56,485 but when you do come to Detroit, you gonna get your ass whooped. 209 00:12:56,568 --> 00:12:58,070 We've got a fight. 210 00:12:58,153 --> 00:13:00,113 Laimbeer and daugherty really going after it... 211 00:13:01,031 --> 00:13:03,241 We just basically just, "okay, we're the bad boys." 212 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:04,594 We just started feeding into it. 213 00:13:04,618 --> 00:13:06,578 Next thing you know, we starting to win, win, win. 214 00:13:08,455 --> 00:13:10,582 It's over. Detroit wins. 215 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:13,543 The pistons had overtaken the celtics 216 00:13:13,627 --> 00:13:15,837 as kings of the eastern conference, 217 00:13:15,921 --> 00:13:17,297 and they're rolling along 218 00:13:17,381 --> 00:13:20,342 just as the bulls are really starting to emerge. 219 00:13:22,094 --> 00:13:26,139 In '86-'87, when Jerry krause made a head coaching hire, 220 00:13:26,223 --> 00:13:30,060 I think we all felt that we needed something different. 221 00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:32,270 This speaks to Jerry's strengths. 222 00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:35,023 He identified a young Doug Collins, 223 00:13:35,107 --> 00:13:40,362 who he felt would bring an energy and enthusiasm that a young team needed. 224 00:13:40,445 --> 00:13:43,007 This is a game that we're gonna have to go out and have high energy. 225 00:13:43,031 --> 00:13:44,533 We have a high energy level. 226 00:13:44,616 --> 00:13:47,428 Win tonight, we got tomorrow off, so you can spend all night in Los Angeles 227 00:13:47,452 --> 00:13:49,180 doing whatever you want to do tonight. I don't care. 228 00:13:49,204 --> 00:13:51,039 Othennise, we got practice tomorrow afternoon. 229 00:13:52,207 --> 00:13:54,793 Dougie was a breath of fresh air, you know. 230 00:13:54,876 --> 00:13:57,629 He believed in everything that I believed in. He wanted to win. 231 00:13:57,713 --> 00:14:00,048 He was an easy guy, great guy to play for. 232 00:14:00,132 --> 00:14:05,095 Welcome, sports fans. This is the Chicago sports casino. 233 00:14:08,140 --> 00:14:10,142 Bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet. 234 00:14:10,225 --> 00:14:11,727 But we know why he win. 235 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:13,645 - He got kids. - Kids, that's right. 236 00:14:13,729 --> 00:14:18,233 Doug's energy on the sideline was unparalleled. 237 00:14:18,316 --> 00:14:22,154 He'd walk off the floor after a game, and he would be drenched in sweat. 238 00:14:22,237 --> 00:14:24,823 I mean, he looked like he played. 239 00:14:24,906 --> 00:14:28,201 Let's make sure, above all, we get some rest. 240 00:14:28,285 --> 00:14:31,413 Detroit, we're 1-and... 4 against those. 241 00:14:31,496 --> 00:14:34,416 And it's on national TV, and I want to beat those guys on Sunday. 242 00:14:34,499 --> 00:14:36,001 So let's get ready to go. 243 00:14:36,084 --> 00:14:37,884 - All right, let's go. - Yeah! 244 00:14:38,503 --> 00:14:40,172 The year before I came, 245 00:14:40,255 --> 00:14:43,967 the bulls had been eliminated by Boston in the playoffs. 246 00:14:44,051 --> 00:14:46,094 The ball game is over. 247 00:14:46,178 --> 00:14:48,138 The series goes to Boston in three stra/ght. 248 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:51,308 The final score, 722-704, celtics. 249 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:53,602 The roster was a little thin at that time. 250 00:14:53,685 --> 00:14:57,189 I'd seen Michael play, but I really never had spent any time around him. 251 00:14:57,272 --> 00:14:59,524 Number 34, Charles oakley 252 00:14:59,608 --> 00:15:01,878 Our second best player at the time was Charles oakley, 253 00:15:01,902 --> 00:15:04,696 who was a vicious rebounder, brought a lot of toughness. 254 00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:07,574 You know, John paxson was on that team, Dave corzine. 255 00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:10,994 And their head coach, Doug col/ins. 256 00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:14,623 The first game I coached, we went to Madison square garden. 257 00:15:14,706 --> 00:15:18,126 And the Knicks had Patrick ewing, bill Cartwright, and they were loaded. 258 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:19,650 Hubie brown, the hall of fame coach. 259 00:15:20,295 --> 00:15:22,839 Two minutes to go in the game. The game was tied. 260 00:15:22,923 --> 00:15:24,382 I'm soaking wet with sweat. 261 00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:27,260 I chewed my gum to a powder. It's around my mouth. 262 00:15:27,344 --> 00:15:30,806 And I saw this hand come out with a cup of water, 263 00:15:30,889 --> 00:15:32,224 and it was Michael Jordan. 264 00:15:32,307 --> 00:15:35,685 And he looked at me, and he said, "coach, take a drink of that water, 265 00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:37,049 clean that stuff off your mouth. 266 00:15:37,104 --> 00:15:38,824 I'm not gonna let you lose your first game." 267 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:40,589 Here is Jordan again. 268 00:15:42,109 --> 00:15:43,360 All alone. 269 00:15:44,027 --> 00:15:45,779 Turns, off the glass. 270 00:15:45,862 --> 00:15:47,989 Forty-two points for Michael Jordan. 271 00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:50,450 7'en seconds on the shot clock. 272 00:15:50,534 --> 00:15:52,244 Rory sparrow working on him. 273 00:15:52,327 --> 00:15:54,329 Jordan to the basket, scores. 274 00:15:54,412 --> 00:15:56,748 And he went out and scored the last ten points of the game, 275 00:15:56,832 --> 00:15:57,958 ended up with 50. 276 00:15:58,041 --> 00:16:02,295 Michael Jordan setting a new Madison square garden record 277 00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:05,257 for an opposing player ton/ght, scoring 50 points. 278 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:08,635 And the Chicago Bulls make Doug col/ins a winner his first time out, 279 00:16:08,718 --> 00:16:11,263 and it is a happy Doug Collins on the far side. 280 00:16:11,346 --> 00:16:13,324 I remember being on the plane going back to Chicago. 281 00:16:13,348 --> 00:16:17,602 I said, "wow, I mean, this guy is something like I've never seen before." 282 00:16:17,686 --> 00:16:19,980 Doug and I were like this, you know. 283 00:16:20,063 --> 00:16:24,901 He'd design an offense to support the way I played the game 284 00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:26,225 and the way he wanted to coach. 285 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:29,072 It's all right, Michael. It's all right. 286 00:16:29,156 --> 00:16:30,991 I think he loved my competitiveness. 287 00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:35,245 He understands that the greatest respect you can give a great player 288 00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:37,247 is to coach him and coach him hard. 289 00:16:41,626 --> 00:16:43,128 Michael's big thing was, 290 00:16:43,211 --> 00:16:45,338 "stack the practice against me, and I'll still win." 291 00:16:45,422 --> 00:16:50,010 Doug always tried to maintain a competitive advantage in practice. 292 00:16:54,806 --> 00:16:56,558 I'd be with the starting five... 293 00:16:57,893 --> 00:17:00,163 And then, next thing you know, in the middle of us winning, 294 00:17:00,187 --> 00:17:01,897 he'd put me with the second team. 295 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:03,499 But there was one day at practice, he got upset, 296 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:04,963 thought I was cheating on the score. 297 00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:08,111 And he got upset and left practice. 298 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:12,449 And we came back the next day, and they were asking, 299 00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:14,343 "have you talked to Michael since practice yesterday?" 300 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,053 I said, "really haven't had a chance to... we will." 301 00:17:16,077 --> 00:17:17,913 And about that time, Michael came out, 302 00:17:17,996 --> 00:17:20,183 and I reached over, and I grabbed him, and I kissed him on the cheek. 303 00:17:20,207 --> 00:17:21,833 I said, "I love him, he loves me." 304 00:17:21,917 --> 00:17:24,020 Would you come here a second so we can kiss on TV here, please? 305 00:17:24,044 --> 00:17:26,463 - There we go. - Would you... would you... 306 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:28,065 Would you tell them everything is fine? 307 00:17:28,089 --> 00:17:30,592 - Aw. - Okay, we've kissed and made up now. 308 00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:36,723 I coached him for three years. From the '86-'87 season through '88-'89. 309 00:17:37,682 --> 00:17:41,186 When I was coaching him, he was the mvp of the league... 310 00:17:43,813 --> 00:17:45,899 He was the mvp of the all-star game... 311 00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:49,069 Michael Jordan. 312 00:17:49,152 --> 00:17:51,488 He won the slam-dunk competition... 313 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,960 And he was the defensive player of the year. 314 00:17:55,033 --> 00:17:58,745 Pass stolen by Jordan. Michael Jordan takes it coast-to-coast. 315 00:17:59,496 --> 00:18:00,622 I/I/hoo/ 316 00:18:00,705 --> 00:18:04,793 that's greatness, you know. I mean, he was now the best player. 317 00:18:13,635 --> 00:18:16,513 Michael on a breakaway. For the two/ 318 00:18:16,596 --> 00:18:18,014 a two-hand dunk by Jordan. 319 00:18:18,098 --> 00:18:19,933 There's Jordan, goes in for a dunk/ 320 00:18:21,685 --> 00:18:23,103 Jordan gets in. 321 00:18:23,687 --> 00:18:25,981 Basket counts, and the foul/ 322 00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:27,232 Jordan's got the ball. 323 00:18:27,315 --> 00:18:29,776 Jordan getting around Scott, and he slam dunks/ 324 00:18:29,859 --> 00:18:32,862 jโ€œ all hail the new king in town jโ€œ 325 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:36,074 From the left. He got it swatted out of the air by Jordan. 326 00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:37,951 Michael on a breakaway. 327 00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:41,454 Jโ€œ young and old, gather around jโ€œ 328 00:18:46,084 --> 00:18:49,838 Jโ€œ black and white, red and green jโ€œ 329 00:18:49,921 --> 00:18:52,299 jโ€œ oh, yeah, funkyjโ€œ 330 00:18:53,717 --> 00:18:57,846 jโ€œ the funkiest man you've ever seen jโ€œ 331 00:18:59,889 --> 00:19:02,475 jโ€œ tell you what his name is jโ€œ 332 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,563 jโ€œ partyman, partyman jโ€œ 333 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:09,816 jโ€œ rock a party like nobody can jโ€œ 334 00:19:09,899 --> 00:19:11,568 They go to chambers. 335 00:19:11,651 --> 00:19:14,362 Jordan has him and pops the ball away, 6 to shoot. 336 00:19:14,446 --> 00:19:16,906 Jordan popped it a way again and makes the steal. 337 00:19:16,990 --> 00:19:18,408 Jโ€œ partyman jโ€œ 338 00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:20,243 jโ€œ party people, say it now jโ€œ 339 00:19:20,327 --> 00:19:24,622 jโ€œ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah jโ€œ 340 00:19:24,706 --> 00:19:25,707 I/I/hoa/ 341 00:19:26,458 --> 00:19:29,336 jโ€œ somebody hol/a if you want to party jโ€œ 342 00:19:29,419 --> 00:19:32,505 I'ahohj" 343 00:19:32,589 --> 00:19:36,509 jโ€œ partyman, partyman jโ€œ 344 00:19:36,593 --> 00:19:38,762 jโ€œ young and old, gather round jโ€œ 345 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:40,764 jโ€œ everybody hail the new king in town jโ€œ 346 00:19:50,148 --> 00:19:52,859 Under Doug Collins, the bulls were rapidly improving, 347 00:19:52,942 --> 00:19:57,405 and suddenly becoming a real contender in the eastern conference. 348 00:19:57,489 --> 00:20:02,660 Detroit was certainly, at the time, the team to beat in the east, 349 00:20:02,744 --> 00:20:04,579 but who was going to be their challenger? 350 00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:07,707 Who was going to really rise up and challenge Detroit? 351 00:20:07,791 --> 00:20:09,667 It was going to be one of two teams. 352 00:20:09,751 --> 00:20:12,087 The bulls were in ascension, obviously, at that time 353 00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:15,632 with their young core of Jordan and pippen and Horace Grant. 354 00:20:15,715 --> 00:20:19,427 But Cleveland was, at the time, a great team. 355 00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:22,722 So these are the two rising teams in the east. 356 00:20:24,641 --> 00:20:26,660 The bulls were going to play Cleveland in '89 357 00:20:26,684 --> 00:20:28,645 in a best three of five. 358 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:32,565 Most basketball observers believed Cleveland was better. 359 00:20:32,649 --> 00:20:34,275 Nobody has picked the bulls. 360 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,654 Everybody in the media, we picked cavs, everybody's picked nationally, the cavs. 361 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:42,158 Back then, we played teams six times in our division. 362 00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:45,829 They beat us six times, 6-0. 363 00:20:46,663 --> 00:20:48,832 So now, in our mind, we got nothing to lose. 364 00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:51,769 Bulls win the first game, 365 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:54,671 and then, Cleveland wins the second in Cleveland. 366 00:20:55,797 --> 00:20:57,882 We go back to Chicago. Bulls win game three. 367 00:20:57,966 --> 00:21:00,343 Chicago wins in 707-94. 368 00:21:00,427 --> 00:21:04,931 Game four, Jordan's got a free throw at the end of regulation... misses. 369 00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:09,894 Ll/lissed it. The cavaliers have kept their hopes alive. 370 00:21:09,978 --> 00:21:11,855 We go back to Cleveland for game five. 371 00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:15,775 And welcome to richfl'e/d coliseum for game five 372 00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:18,611 between the Chicago Bulls and the c/e ve/and cavaliers. 373 00:21:19,487 --> 00:21:21,781 Up to that time, the franchise, 374 00:21:21,865 --> 00:21:24,075 the history of the bulls was blowing leads. 375 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:26,703 And you're like, โ€œoh, my god. This is gonna happen again. 376 00:21:26,786 --> 00:21:28,626 They're gonna do this. They're gonna blow this. 377 00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:30,425 They're gonna lose the series to Cleveland." 378 00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:33,793 So the game's about to start, and there was two other beat writers. 379 00:21:34,252 --> 00:21:37,088 Beat writer from the sun-times, Lacy banks, 380 00:21:37,172 --> 00:21:40,133 and Kent mcdill from the herald, and me. 381 00:21:40,216 --> 00:21:42,844 And Lacy's picked cavs to sweep in three, 382 00:21:42,927 --> 00:21:46,681 Kent's picked the cavs to win in four, and I've picked the cavs to win in five. 383 00:21:46,764 --> 00:21:49,434 So, Michael... The game's just about to start, 384 00:21:49,517 --> 00:21:51,978 and Michael walks over to Lacy and points and says, 385 00:21:52,061 --> 00:21:53,229 "we took care of you." 386 00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:55,815 Then he looks at Kent, and he says, "we took care of you." 387 00:21:55,899 --> 00:21:58,943 Then he looks at me and, "we take care of you today." 388 00:21:59,027 --> 00:22:03,907 Caught by Ron Harper in the backcourt, and the y're underway. 389 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,700 C/e ve/and has it. 390 00:22:05,783 --> 00:22:08,620 We went back and forth the whole time. 391 00:22:08,703 --> 00:22:11,247 Jordan against Harper. Great turnaround 392 00:22:11,331 --> 00:22:12,957 And it was a very tough game. 393 00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:14,501 This is the playoffs, 394 00:22:14,584 --> 00:22:16,669 and here we have two great teams right here, 395 00:22:16,753 --> 00:22:18,171 guys that lay it out. 396 00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:19,297 It was a constant battle. 397 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:35,563 We have had drama here in the final minutes of the game. 398 00:22:35,647 --> 00:22:38,191 Eleven seconds to go. In the middle of the floor. 399 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:39,817 Jordan has it, 400 00:22:39,901 --> 00:22:43,071 and Jordan puts up a jumper and hits with six seconds to go. 401 00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:47,283 Jordan hits the basket and now has 42 points in the game. 402 00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:50,036 And the cavaliers have called a time-out. 403 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,956 Eh/o will inbound he gets it into Nance. 404 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,626 Gets the ball back, drives to the hoop, lays it in with three seconds to go. 405 00:23:02,757 --> 00:23:05,260 Here's our story here at richfie/d coliseum. 406 00:23:05,343 --> 00:23:07,136 One of these teams will advance. 407 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:09,556 It has been a thrilling game. 408 00:23:09,639 --> 00:23:15,144 7'he bulls have three seconds to try a shot and try to win the game. 409 00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:17,355 Everybody knew where the ball was gonna go. 410 00:23:18,815 --> 00:23:21,651 You know, they had Craig ehlo on me at the time, 411 00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:24,404 which, in all honesty, was a mistake. 412 00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:28,408 Because the guy that played me better was Ron Harper. 413 00:23:28,491 --> 00:23:30,743 We up by one. 414 00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:35,915 I said, "coach, I got mj. I got mj." 415 00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:40,670 So the coach tells me, "I'm gonna put ehlo on mj." 416 00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:42,922 And I'm like... 417 00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:46,593 "Yeah, okay, whatever. Fuck this bullshit." 418 00:23:52,432 --> 00:23:55,893 We drew a play where I was coming to the ball... 419 00:23:57,103 --> 00:24:00,148 But I only had time enough to get one dribble and get a jump shot off. 420 00:24:01,065 --> 00:24:03,067 We were gonna live and die with that scenario. 421 00:24:04,152 --> 00:24:06,032 So I was doing everything I can to get the ball. 422 00:24:07,363 --> 00:24:09,490 The inbounds pass comes in to Jordan. 423 00:24:09,574 --> 00:24:12,827 Here's ll/lichae/ at the foul line. A shot on ehlo... good/ 424 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:15,038 the bulls win it/ they win it/ 425 00:24:19,709 --> 00:24:25,089 and Chicago has knocked off the ca vs, 707 - 700. 426 00:24:25,173 --> 00:24:27,550 Michael! Michael, you stuck it, baby! 427 00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,595 Michael, you stuck it, baby! You stuck it! 428 00:24:30,678 --> 00:24:31,721 Yeah! 429 00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:35,975 I feel very vindicated from when we started the playoffs, 430 00:24:36,059 --> 00:24:38,061 with the damn look that everybody was giving us. 431 00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:40,688 Even I asked you in the locker room, I asked everybody, 432 00:24:40,772 --> 00:24:42,416 you know, what was the feeling back in Chicago? 433 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,691 Did the writers talk yet? 434 00:24:43,775 --> 00:24:46,110 And you said some of them have written us off. 435 00:24:46,194 --> 00:24:47,954 I said, "well, tell those guys to stay home." 436 00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:51,091 Somebody had written or said that the bulls were going to go home, 437 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:52,867 send them home. 438 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:56,037 And so, when he hits the shot, "go home, motherfuckers, go home." 439 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,955 Get the fuck out of here. 440 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,124 Go fuckin' anywhere, but you're out of here. 441 00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,877 Whoever's not with us, all you fuckers go to hell. 442 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,297 Jordan beat 'em at the buzzer with a jump shot in the circle. 443 00:25:06,381 --> 00:25:08,758 It was so dramatic, and it was typical 444 00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:12,220 of what we would see Michael do the rest of his career in big moments. 445 00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:16,933 That shot enabled the bulls to start growing 446 00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:19,686 and believing that something special was on the horizon. 447 00:25:19,769 --> 00:25:22,897 We finally got over the hump of the losers' mentality. 448 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,441 We were starting to become a winning franchise. 449 00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:28,444 And you know, the sky was the limit. 450 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,156 How h/gh can this man fiy? 451 00:25:32,949 --> 00:25:34,409 Michael Jordan is soaring, 452 00:25:34,492 --> 00:25:36,786 and the Chicago Bulls are going fight with him. 453 00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:40,206 But now, Superman faces his toughest test, 454 00:25:40,289 --> 00:25:45,253 as we bring you the first game of the eastern conference championsh/p 455 00:25:45,336 --> 00:25:51,050 between the underdog Chicago Bulls and the favored Detroit pistons. 456 00:25:51,134 --> 00:25:55,096 The NBA was invested in making Michael Jordan its star. 457 00:25:55,763 --> 00:25:59,809 The pistons were... slowing that down. 458 00:25:59,892 --> 00:26:05,690 We knew how important to the NBA it was to get Michael to go to the next level. 459 00:26:05,773 --> 00:26:10,945 The blueprint was Larry, magic, now Michael. 460 00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:15,158 And all of a sudden, there was this little team in Detroit 461 00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:17,452 who just messed up the whole story. 462 00:26:17,535 --> 00:26:19,036 We loved that. 463 00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:25,334 Oh, I hated 'em. 464 00:26:25,418 --> 00:26:27,462 And that hate carries even to this day. 465 00:26:28,713 --> 00:26:32,675 They made it personal. They physically beat the shit out of us. 466 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,969 When we played the pistons in that series, 467 00:26:35,052 --> 00:26:38,556 it was arm-to-arm physical combat. 468 00:26:40,516 --> 00:26:42,935 But we never backed down. We fought them. 469 00:26:43,019 --> 00:26:46,606 7'he bulls have won the first game. 470 00:26:46,689 --> 00:26:49,525 So we got game one. They won game two. 471 00:26:50,318 --> 00:26:51,819 We came back to Chicago. 472 00:26:51,903 --> 00:26:54,280 Michael had one of the most incredible games. 473 00:26:55,156 --> 00:26:57,450 Jordan, steal. He kept it inbounds. 474 00:26:57,533 --> 00:26:59,702 Here it is again. 475 00:26:59,786 --> 00:27:01,204 Oh/ yes/ 476 00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:07,502 you 'i/ see him elevate, do a 360, and just toss it up. 477 00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:09,670 P/ppen finds Jordan. There it is. 478 00:27:09,754 --> 00:27:11,964 Rodman is on him, one-on-one. 479 00:27:12,048 --> 00:27:16,260 Five seconds to go. Jordan off the glass... oh/ 480 00:27:17,553 --> 00:27:19,597 it's over! Chicago wins! 481 00:27:25,686 --> 00:27:28,898 That was get the ball to Michael, everybody get the fuck out of the way... 482 00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:31,150 And go to the basket. 483 00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:36,239 Jordan pretty much took over the game, 484 00:27:36,322 --> 00:27:38,616 made all the big field goals down the stretch. 485 00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:41,536 Show like the... showed the superstar that he really is. 486 00:27:46,207 --> 00:27:49,585 We knew Michael Jordan was the greatest player, 487 00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:53,506 and we tried to use it as a rallying cry to come together. 488 00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:58,094 We had to do everything, from a physicality standpoint, 489 00:27:58,177 --> 00:27:59,470 to stop him. 490 00:27:59,554 --> 00:28:03,307 Detroit had "Jordan rules" just for Michael. 491 00:28:03,933 --> 00:28:05,726 I don't know how he came out of it alive. 492 00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:08,152 The infamous Jordan rules, 493 00:28:08,229 --> 00:28:11,649 the pistons' defensive tactics des/gned to contain their namesake, 494 00:28:11,732 --> 00:28:14,360 are enforced whenever Michael is on the floor. 495 00:28:14,443 --> 00:28:16,737 When he was in the air, we had no shot, 496 00:28:16,821 --> 00:28:19,699 uh, but you know, when everything was on the floor, 497 00:28:19,782 --> 00:28:21,033 you can hold your own. 498 00:28:21,117 --> 00:28:23,244 You have to stop him before he takes flight, 499 00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:25,204 'cause, you know, he's not human. 500 00:28:25,288 --> 00:28:27,373 Michael Jordan fouled 501 00:28:27,456 --> 00:28:29,292 Jordan... foul. 502 00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:31,210 Jordan again pushed 503 00:28:31,294 --> 00:28:34,380 Here again, the implementation of the Jordan rules. 504 00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:39,051 7'he pistons will even it up at two-apiece. 505 00:28:39,135 --> 00:28:42,305 The story of this game, the Detroit defense. 506 00:28:42,972 --> 00:28:45,433 This is what the Jordan rules were. 507 00:28:45,516 --> 00:28:49,186 On the wings, we were going to push him to the elbow, 508 00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:52,273 and we're not going to let him drive to the baseline. 509 00:28:53,608 --> 00:28:58,112 Number two, when he's on top, we're going to influence him to his left. 510 00:28:58,779 --> 00:29:03,034 When he got the ball in the low post, we were gonna trap him from the top. 511 00:29:03,117 --> 00:29:05,536 That's the Jordan rules, and it was that simple. 512 00:29:09,498 --> 00:29:12,877 That's when laimbeer and mahorn would go up knock him down to the ground. 513 00:29:15,046 --> 00:29:19,091 As soon as he steps in the paint... Hit him. 514 00:29:20,009 --> 00:29:22,345 Chuck daly said, "this is the Jordan rule. 515 00:29:22,428 --> 00:29:24,908 Every time he go to the fuckin' basket, put him on the ground." 516 00:29:25,806 --> 00:29:27,451 When he comes to the basket, he ain't gonna duck. 517 00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:29,453 We're gonna hit you, and you're gonna be on the ground. 518 00:29:29,477 --> 00:29:30,871 Jordan was still down. 519 00:29:30,895 --> 00:29:32,581 We're trying to physically hurt Michael. 520 00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:34,941 Jordan had no place to go. 521 00:29:35,024 --> 00:29:36,233 Clobbered 522 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:38,986 How bad do you want it? 523 00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:42,782 Are you willing to be injured to score a basket? 524 00:29:42,865 --> 00:29:44,945 And the pistons want to make Jordan pay 525 00:29:44,992 --> 00:29:46,452 whenever he gets in the paint. 526 00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:47,935 And the referees back then 527 00:29:47,995 --> 00:29:49,872 didn't look to see if Michael was hurt or not. 528 00:29:49,956 --> 00:29:53,334 It wasn't make sure that the savior is okay. 529 00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:55,378 That wasn't the way it is. 530 00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:59,131 It is over at the palace! 531 00:29:59,215 --> 00:30:01,634 The pistons have beaten the bulls. 532 00:30:02,593 --> 00:30:04,845 I could compare Michael Jordan to nobody 533 00:30:04,929 --> 00:30:09,266 because for him to survive that and still maintain that greatness, 534 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:11,268 I mean, it's very unparalleled. 535 00:30:11,352 --> 00:30:15,564 We were not ready for the Detroit pistons at that point in time. 536 00:30:15,648 --> 00:30:19,777 They were more physical than us. Uh, they were the aggressors. 537 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:21,404 Detroit had our number. 538 00:30:21,487 --> 00:30:25,199 The Detroit pistons, by virtue of a 703-94 victory, 539 00:30:25,282 --> 00:30:28,494 have eliminated the bulls and indeed are headed for the final. 540 00:30:28,577 --> 00:30:31,747 Unfortunately for the bulls, the story was the same... 541 00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:33,499 Control Michael, and the win is yours. 542 00:30:37,253 --> 00:30:39,296 We did not have, as a unit, 543 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:42,383 the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. 544 00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:44,194 And the game's over, 545 00:30:44,218 --> 00:30:46,345 and the pistons have won the world championship. 546 00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,641 They're going down in the record books 547 00:30:50,725 --> 00:30:54,061 as one of the greatest defensive teams ever in the history of this league. 548 00:30:54,854 --> 00:30:58,524 It seems that, in sports, there's always that one team 549 00:30:58,607 --> 00:31:00,735 that you have to overcome, 550 00:31:00,818 --> 00:31:04,488 and you almost build your team to beat them. 551 00:31:04,572 --> 00:31:09,326 And unequivocally, for the bulls, it was the pistons. 552 00:31:19,837 --> 00:31:21,756 A friend of Dennis rodman was worried enough 553 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:26,218 about the piston's whereabouts overnight that he called 911 to initiate a search. 554 00:31:26,302 --> 00:31:30,056 Police found rodman at the palace early this morning in auburn hills. 555 00:31:30,139 --> 00:31:33,350 Rodman had taken his legally registered rifle with him. 556 00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:35,936 His mood characterized as despondent. 557 00:31:42,777 --> 00:31:43,819 I'm here. 558 00:31:44,278 --> 00:31:46,131 That's Dennis at about 8:00 this morning, 559 00:31:46,155 --> 00:31:48,407 trying to assure reporters that he's fine, 560 00:31:48,491 --> 00:31:50,951 that he's not on the verge of an emotional breakdown, 561 00:31:51,035 --> 00:31:52,870 and that he did nothing out of the ordinary, 562 00:31:52,953 --> 00:31:54,205 at least for him. 563 00:31:54,288 --> 00:31:57,666 The report that we had is, uh, that he took a gun, 564 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:59,293 had a gun in his truck. 565 00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:01,837 Uh, have you heard that? Can you confirm that? 566 00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:04,757 I've heard that, yeah. That's all I know. 567 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,260 I had a gun in my hand, like, on the front seat. 568 00:32:09,011 --> 00:32:13,849 Luckily, I fell asleep, and the cops came and got me. 569 00:32:15,101 --> 00:32:16,769 I was at a lost place at that time. 570 00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:18,979 Just a lost place. 571 00:32:22,024 --> 00:32:26,904 That time in my life, I think that was a wake-up call and a rescue call. 572 00:32:26,987 --> 00:32:29,073 Last night may have been the last time 573 00:32:29,156 --> 00:32:31,534 we see Dennis rodman in a pistons uniform. 574 00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:34,954 Dennis rodman used to be a piston. Ehh... he's out of there. 575 00:32:35,037 --> 00:32:38,999 The I/I/orm is nowa spur, traded for Sean Elliott and David wood 576 00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:43,504 Dennis goes to San Antonio, and then demolition ll/lan comes out, 577 00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,047 and he changes his hair color. 578 00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:46,674 That's me, that's Dennis rodman. 579 00:32:48,342 --> 00:32:49,611 I'm not trying to please anybody. 580 00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:53,681 And then, Madonna goes, "he's cute," and they started seeing each other. 581 00:32:54,598 --> 00:32:56,559 Madonna explained to him, 582 00:32:56,642 --> 00:33:00,312 "you have to establish who you want to be in this life. 583 00:33:00,396 --> 00:33:03,107 Don't be who they tell you you should be." 584 00:33:04,191 --> 00:33:08,988 He started realizing he can push to any boundary, 585 00:33:09,071 --> 00:33:11,157 and that's a freedom. 586 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,035 People that write the things in the paper don't really know Dennis rodman. 587 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:16,179 They don't even talk to me, 588 00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:18,431 so they just have to write something that's crazy and stupid 589 00:33:18,455 --> 00:33:20,499 to make me look like an asshole. 590 00:33:20,583 --> 00:33:23,961 I just want to do something that makes me feel like I'm free, 591 00:33:24,044 --> 00:33:26,463 that I can go do anything I want to do. 592 00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:30,384 What does it mean... the outfits, the tattoos, the sunglasses, 593 00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:33,721 the... the velvet hat, the rings, the St... 594 00:33:34,305 --> 00:33:35,347 Why? 595 00:33:35,431 --> 00:33:37,683 I like doing what I'm doing. 596 00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:40,978 It's making me happy, making me feel like I'm a ten-year-old kid. 597 00:33:41,061 --> 00:33:44,857 Can I ask you to do one thing for me before we leave this interview? 598 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,109 - Take off the hat and let me see that. - Why am I... 599 00:33:47,193 --> 00:33:49,212 Take off the hat and let me see what color it is. 600 00:33:49,236 --> 00:33:50,237 It's no color. 601 00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:52,948 You know, I've been pretty much lazy and just the hell with it. 602 00:33:53,032 --> 00:33:54,533 I'm thinking about shaving it off. 603 00:33:57,494 --> 00:33:59,622 I wanted no part of Dennis. 604 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:01,141 Didn't want anything to do with him. 605 00:34:01,165 --> 00:34:04,793 And Jimmy stack, who was my assistant at that point, 606 00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:06,396 came to me and said, "let's talk about rodman." 607 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:08,797 I said, "no, I don't want to talk about rodman." 608 00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:11,300 And he said, "jer, I've done some homework. 609 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:15,471 I really felt like I had a different perspective on Dennis. 610 00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:18,766 By Dennis rodman, who already has a t. 611 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:21,936 Gets another one, and out he goes. 612 00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:27,274 Dennis was acting out in San Antonio, 613 00:34:27,358 --> 00:34:30,152 but I just felt like the structure that we had 614 00:34:30,236 --> 00:34:31,956 with Michael and scottie and the leadership, 615 00:34:32,029 --> 00:34:35,741 Dennis would respect those guys and play and thrive. 616 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,994 If we had not had Michael and scottie 617 00:34:39,078 --> 00:34:41,723 and the people in that locker room, we would have never taken Dennis. 618 00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:44,667 And if Phil had not been the coach, I don't think we'd have taken him. 619 00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:46,835 Uh, because I knew that Phil could handle him. 620 00:34:50,506 --> 00:34:51,674 It was awful. 621 00:34:53,092 --> 00:34:55,219 I walk into Jerry krause's house. 622 00:34:56,095 --> 00:34:57,263 He's sitting on the couch. 623 00:34:57,346 --> 00:34:59,932 He's got a poor boy hat over his eyes, 624 00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:02,726 he's got the rings in his nose and his mouth, 625 00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:04,436 and he doesn't stand up to meet me. 626 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,232 So I said, "stand up, Dennis. Take your hat off, shake hands. 627 00:35:08,315 --> 00:35:09,483 Let's go outside and talk." 628 00:35:09,566 --> 00:35:13,404 We had to break bread then at the house, so basically said, 629 00:35:13,487 --> 00:35:14,923 "Dennis, you want to come play for the bulls?" 630 00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:17,741 I said, "I don't care. Whatever, what's up?โ€œ 631 00:35:17,825 --> 00:35:20,160 last week, the bulls announced the acquisition of a player 632 00:35:20,244 --> 00:35:21,412 many people consider 633 00:35:21,495 --> 00:35:24,164 the most controversial basketball star in the NBA. 634 00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:28,669 He is Dennis rodman, one of the best rebounders in NBA history. 635 00:35:29,169 --> 00:35:31,588 Is it one of the shrewdest moves the bulls have ever made, 636 00:35:31,672 --> 00:35:32,673 or one of the dumbest? 637 00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:34,925 There was this visceral reaction to rodman. 638 00:35:35,009 --> 00:35:38,679 Rodman was at the center of the most hated team 639 00:35:38,762 --> 00:35:40,014 in the history of Chicago. 640 00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:44,560 We all thought, well, there's no way they would ever accept him. 641 00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:47,730 Like, even if they sign him, they'll never accept him. You know. 642 00:35:47,813 --> 00:35:50,983 And to their credit, Jordan and pippen especially say, 643 00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:54,320 "hey, he can help us win. You know, we know how tough he is." 644 00:35:54,403 --> 00:35:58,324 Jโ€œ yeah jโ€œ 645 00:36:02,328 --> 00:36:03,954 Like a hand in a glove. 646 00:36:04,913 --> 00:36:07,875 Dennis was a dominant defensive player, 647 00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:11,170 and what Dennis brought was exactly what we needed, 648 00:36:11,253 --> 00:36:14,506 somebody who gave us that edge on the front line. 649 00:36:14,590 --> 00:36:17,468 Jโ€œ who is the man comin' down your block? Jโ€œ 650 00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:20,304 jโ€œ it's me you see with the funk in my walk jโ€œ 651 00:36:20,387 --> 00:36:22,556 jโ€œ 'cause I'm doin ' just what / like to jโ€œ 652 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,225 jโ€œ today is my day, yeah and I'ma get nice too... jโ€œ 653 00:36:25,309 --> 00:36:28,103 if he do his job, then we're gonna love him. 654 00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:31,607 Play basketball, and win. That's it. 655 00:36:32,358 --> 00:36:33,734 That's what he did. 656 00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:36,153 Jโ€œ I am the maestro jโ€œ 657 00:36:36,236 --> 00:36:38,280 jโ€œ yeah, you motherfuckers jโ€œ 658 00:36:38,364 --> 00:36:39,573 j" I'm all that Iโ€ 659 00:36:39,656 --> 00:36:41,325 jโ€œ lsee you lookin'at me sayin'jโ€œ 660 00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:44,828 jโ€œ how can he be so skinny and live so phat? Jโ€œ 661 00:36:44,912 --> 00:36:46,181 jโ€œ you know why, 'cause I'm... jโ€œ 662 00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:48,665 Dennis is one of the smartest guys I played with. 663 00:36:48,749 --> 00:36:52,252 He understood defensive strategy with all the rotations, 664 00:36:52,336 --> 00:36:54,922 he had no limits, you know, in terms of what he does. 665 00:36:55,005 --> 00:36:57,716 He could guard multiple players. 666 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,887 He studied each guy. He knew players' strengths and weaknesses. 667 00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:04,598 Rodman, the interception. 668 00:37:04,681 --> 00:37:07,434 Dennis knows how to play his role well. 669 00:37:07,518 --> 00:37:11,772 He has a great understanding of what it takes to win. 670 00:37:12,815 --> 00:37:15,109 He's a huge reason for our success. 671 00:37:15,192 --> 00:37:18,278 Jโ€œ who is the man? Who is the man? Jโ€œ 672 00:37:19,822 --> 00:37:23,659 jโ€œ who is the man? Who is the man? Jโ€œ 673 00:37:25,327 --> 00:37:26,954 jโ€œ ll/laestro jโ€œ 674 00:37:55,816 --> 00:37:57,627 You know I was just kidding. 675 00:37:57,651 --> 00:38:00,654 I know. You gave me a good article the other day. 676 00:38:00,737 --> 00:38:02,448 - I appreciate that. - Which one? 677 00:38:02,531 --> 00:38:04,801 The one that you said, "quit worrying about what he's gonna do 678 00:38:04,825 --> 00:38:05,993 and live for the present. 679 00:38:06,076 --> 00:38:08,036 Don't worry about next year. Leave him alone. 680 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,330 Quit asking stupid questions about what's happening." 681 00:38:10,414 --> 00:38:11,623 I'm sick of it, too. 682 00:38:11,707 --> 00:38:13,459 I'm tired of it. I'm totally tired of it. 683 00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:14,811 I'm gonna stop talking to y'all. 684 00:38:14,835 --> 00:38:16,211 Just say, "next question." 685 00:38:16,295 --> 00:38:19,423 I mean, y'all guys, you guys don't do it anymore, but it's on the road. 686 00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:20,546 That's what kills me, man. 687 00:38:20,591 --> 00:38:23,635 It's got to be a little draining... every city, it's like, 688 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,555 "is it Michael's last game?" And everything that's going on with that. 689 00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:29,808 Is it wearing on you a little? Does it wear on you a little bit? 690 00:38:29,892 --> 00:38:30,976 Yeah, it gets old. 691 00:38:31,059 --> 00:38:33,499 Questions don't change, and the answer's pretty much the same. 692 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,107 Wouldn't it be nice if bulls fans could enjoy this title run 693 00:38:37,191 --> 00:38:39,751 without worrying that it could be the final running of the bulls? 694 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:42,029 More questions in that vein for Michael Jordan today. 695 00:38:42,112 --> 00:38:44,156 Have you said this is your last year? 696 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,009 Is this your last outing in the bay area? 697 00:38:46,033 --> 00:38:47,302 Is it your last season? 698 00:38:47,326 --> 00:38:49,262 You get a sense it's Michael's final run as a bull? 699 00:38:49,286 --> 00:38:51,006 Is tonight your last time here? 700 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:52,498 Should he retire? 701 00:38:52,581 --> 00:38:53,582 It's his decision. 702 00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:56,502 We're required to ask every game if you're gonna retire. 703 00:38:56,585 --> 00:38:57,896 You're gonna get the same answer. 704 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,757 Although I may have the same answers, I've practiced them quite a bit. 705 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,091 I don't know. I don't know. 706 00:39:03,175 --> 00:39:04,843 You never know. You never know. 707 00:39:04,927 --> 00:39:06,053 Beats me. 708 00:39:06,136 --> 00:39:09,264 This may be the last time, last dance, whatever, but... 709 00:39:09,348 --> 00:39:11,683 I'm not focusing on that. I'm just focusing on the moment. 710 00:39:11,767 --> 00:39:14,520 You enjoy the moment, you know, enjoy the game. 711 00:39:14,603 --> 00:39:17,564 And whatever happens for this organization, you know, 712 00:39:17,648 --> 00:39:19,000 at the end of the season, happens. 713 00:39:19,024 --> 00:39:20,293 What happens after that happens. 714 00:39:20,317 --> 00:39:24,029 I think people, or the media, basically, are trying to redirect 715 00:39:24,112 --> 00:39:27,157 or trying to change some kind of little emphasis within the question 716 00:39:27,241 --> 00:39:30,869 to see if my answers change, you know, and my response don't change. 717 00:39:30,953 --> 00:39:32,753 So what about next year, Michael? 718 00:39:35,332 --> 00:39:36,875 You guys are... I love you guys. 719 00:39:38,168 --> 00:39:39,169 Excuse me. 720 00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,934 Okay, everybody, let's go meet the sniff brothers. 721 00:39:58,397 --> 00:40:00,774 These are the sniff brothers over here. 722 00:40:00,857 --> 00:40:07,072 There's Gus sniff, ct sniff, Calvin sniff, Tom sniff... 723 00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:09,008 - John Michael sniff. - John Michael sniff... 724 00:40:09,032 --> 00:40:10,760 - George sniff. - These are all the sniff brothers. 725 00:40:10,784 --> 00:40:12,619 They take care of Michael over here. 726 00:40:12,703 --> 00:40:16,540 Sniff brothers are Michael's security guys. 727 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,251 A sniff brother is actually a jock sniffer... 728 00:40:19,334 --> 00:40:22,504 So we used to say everybody who was sniffing Michael's jocks 729 00:40:22,588 --> 00:40:24,315 are all those guys who would always be around. 730 00:40:24,339 --> 00:40:28,760 He's the general sniff right here. Brigadier general Gus sniff. 731 00:40:28,844 --> 00:40:31,054 Brigadier general? 732 00:40:35,142 --> 00:40:37,328 Come on, man, y'all get out of here. We got a heated debate. 733 00:40:37,352 --> 00:40:39,271 We got a heated debate about the president. 734 00:40:39,354 --> 00:40:41,356 - Y'all got to get out of here. - Oh, oh. 735 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,280 He'll be running the country next week. 736 00:40:43,317 --> 00:40:45,117 You got it? He's gonna be running the country. 737 00:40:45,193 --> 00:40:47,153 If the president had sniff brothers, 738 00:40:47,195 --> 00:40:48,447 he wouldn't have this problem. 739 00:40:56,997 --> 00:40:58,248 That'll pay for my fine, see? 740 00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:00,500 See what I'm saying? 741 00:41:01,043 --> 00:41:02,895 All people that's in the business are quirky, too. 742 00:41:02,919 --> 00:41:04,588 I'm letting you know now. 743 00:41:04,671 --> 00:41:08,091 That was Craig sager gave me 20 bucks to pay for my fine. 744 00:41:08,592 --> 00:41:11,192 - Sounds like a bribe... reporter. - That's what I'm saying. 745 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:17,976 He's just saying hi. 746 00:41:21,188 --> 00:41:23,815 - Thank you so much. - Here you go. 747 00:41:23,899 --> 00:41:25,692 They love you so much. 748 00:41:25,776 --> 00:41:28,320 Entertainment... Entertainment, full-time basketball. 749 00:41:28,403 --> 00:41:30,530 Oh, my god! 750 00:41:30,614 --> 00:41:32,324 - Dennis! - Thank you! 751 00:41:32,407 --> 00:41:33,408 Just a signature. 752 00:41:39,373 --> 00:41:40,957 Yes, it's awesome. 753 00:41:41,041 --> 00:41:42,042 - We love it. - Yep. 754 00:41:42,959 --> 00:41:46,797 No, no. Hell, no. 755 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,006 Hey, dude. 756 00:42:02,396 --> 00:42:04,815 Two months ago, scottie pippen said he would never play 757 00:42:04,898 --> 00:42:07,609 for the Chicago Bulls again, but then he softened his stance, 758 00:42:07,693 --> 00:42:10,153 saying he was looking fonnard to returning to the team, 759 00:42:10,237 --> 00:42:12,864 so the question became when would he come back? 760 00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:18,537 Change my mind about coming to play? 761 00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:19,996 Yeah. 762 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,500 I just... I knew that it was probably gonna come down to 763 00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:27,212 me and the team trying to play hardball, 764 00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:29,673 and I would lose in that situation 765 00:42:29,756 --> 00:42:32,759 because they would start to fine me probably, 766 00:42:32,843 --> 00:42:38,849 so, you know, I wasn't gonna let them benefit in that way. 767 00:42:39,725 --> 00:42:41,935 The bottom line is, uh, 768 00:42:42,018 --> 00:42:46,148 I was willing to accept a trade if they did it, 769 00:42:46,231 --> 00:42:48,650 and I knew they wasn't gonna do it. 770 00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:51,945 After watching 35 games from the bench, 771 00:42:52,028 --> 00:42:54,573 the bulls forward suited up at the united center ton/ght 772 00:42:54,656 --> 00:42:55,782 and took the court. 773 00:42:55,866 --> 00:42:59,035 Now, as for Dennis rodman, check out the newest hairstyle. 774 00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:03,206 Word is that those are 33s, in tribute to p/ppen's return. 775 00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:06,918 Scottie p/ppen, he played 37 minutes, and scored 72 points. 776 00:43:07,002 --> 00:43:09,796 P/ppen grabbing four rebounds, dishing out five assists, 777 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,425 and the bulls have to feel uplifted by having p/ppen back. 778 00:43:14,092 --> 00:43:15,719 When scottie wasn't there, 779 00:43:15,802 --> 00:43:18,930 Dennis loved the fact that Michael needed him. 780 00:43:25,729 --> 00:43:27,439 He set that screen right there... 781 00:43:42,871 --> 00:43:43,955 You know, he was, 782 00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,833 "hey, Michael, it's me and you. You know, we got this." 783 00:43:47,501 --> 00:43:49,861 And then, when scottie came back, that's when they lost him. 784 00:43:51,087 --> 00:43:54,257 When scottie came back and we got the three amigos again, 785 00:43:54,341 --> 00:43:57,427 and I'm pretty much the third wheel of the family. 786 00:43:58,261 --> 00:44:01,389 Rodman's descent became dramatic. 787 00:44:01,473 --> 00:44:06,603 You know, his drinking, his partying, his connection with reality. 788 00:44:07,604 --> 00:44:09,499 The thing about this, too, people don't understand, 789 00:44:09,523 --> 00:44:12,567 it's just not basketball that we have to deal with on this team. 790 00:44:12,651 --> 00:44:16,988 It's not just... It's the pressure of the bullshit. 791 00:44:17,489 --> 00:44:19,157 You know, I'll play the game for free, 792 00:44:19,241 --> 00:44:22,994 but you get paid for the bullshit after you leave the floor. 793 00:44:23,745 --> 00:44:26,623 The public pressure, the media pressure. 794 00:44:27,123 --> 00:44:30,669 Get that out of my face. I'm done, I'm done. 795 00:44:31,503 --> 00:44:33,088 I'm not talkin', man. 796 00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:34,965 No comment. How about that one? 797 00:44:39,678 --> 00:44:41,847 Basketball is simple, it's a simple game, 798 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:45,225 but when you leave this... this confide zone... 799 00:44:46,518 --> 00:44:48,562 It's hard. It's hard. 800 00:44:48,645 --> 00:44:51,731 I got to say, I never have to prove anything to people in this country 801 00:44:51,815 --> 00:44:54,359 or in this business because this business can kiss my ass. 802 00:44:54,442 --> 00:44:56,202 I don't give a damn what they think about me. 803 00:44:57,654 --> 00:45:00,574 Everybody understood Dennis' impact on the group, 804 00:45:00,657 --> 00:45:06,037 and we understood that he had, uh, different needs 805 00:45:06,121 --> 00:45:07,914 in his personal life than we did. 806 00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:19,259 While scottie was out, Dennis was a model citizen 807 00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:23,430 to the point where it was driving him fuckin' insane. 808 00:45:23,513 --> 00:45:26,850 So, when scottie came back, 809 00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:28,894 Dennis wanted to take a vacation. 810 00:45:30,145 --> 00:45:31,873 I come to practice, Phil calls me in and says, 811 00:45:31,897 --> 00:45:34,017 โ€look, you know, Dennis wants to tell you something. โ€ 812 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,836 When Dennis wants to tell me something, 813 00:45:36,860 --> 00:45:38,980 I knew it's not something that I fuckin' want to hear. 814 00:45:40,947 --> 00:45:44,242 So Dennis says, "I need a vacation." 815 00:45:44,326 --> 00:45:47,120 And I look at Phil, say, "Phil, what do you mean, a vacation?" 816 00:45:47,203 --> 00:45:49,765 He says, "he needs a vacation. He needs some time off to let loose." 817 00:45:49,789 --> 00:45:52,626 I said, โ€look, Phil, let me tell you something, man. 818 00:45:52,709 --> 00:45:55,170 If anybody need a fuckin' vacation, I need a vacation." 819 00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:58,423 He says... we look at Dennis, said, "Dennis, what are you gonna do?" 820 00:45:59,215 --> 00:46:00,884 He says, โ€well, I need to go to Vegas. โ€ 821 00:46:04,262 --> 00:46:07,307 "Phil, if you let this dude go to vacation, we're not gonna see him. 822 00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:09,809 You let him go to Vegas, we definitely not gonna see him." 823 00:46:10,769 --> 00:46:12,187 So he looks at Dennis and says, 824 00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:15,732 "Dennis, well, can your vacation be like 48 hours?" 825 00:46:16,274 --> 00:46:18,318 And Dennis is like, "I got no other choice. 826 00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:21,112 I'll take whatever you can give me, I'll take the 48 hours." 827 00:46:21,196 --> 00:46:24,157 โ€Forty-e/ght hours. You got 48 hours, Dennis. โ€ 828 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:25,742 And I'm looking at Phil like, 829 00:46:25,825 --> 00:46:27,744 "you ain't gonna get that dude back in 48 hours. 830 00:46:27,827 --> 00:46:29,788 I don't care what you say. He's done." 831 00:46:29,871 --> 00:46:31,623 โ€Oka y, 48 hours. โ€ 832 00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:35,919 He leaves that room, goes straight to the airport. 833 00:46:36,002 --> 00:46:38,922 Boom, we don't hear or see Dennis for 48 hours. 834 00:46:40,924 --> 00:46:42,175 I remember that. 835 00:46:42,258 --> 00:46:45,178 I went to fuckin' Vegas. 836 00:46:52,769 --> 00:46:57,899 Dennis was bizarre, but I think what made it work 837 00:46:57,983 --> 00:47:01,945 was Phil and Michael's understanding that, 838 00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:05,824 to get the most out of him on the court, you had to give him some rope. 839 00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:08,827 And they gave him a lot of rope. 67307

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