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I could have a bum,
I could have been in jail,
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I could have been dead,
but I worked my ass off to get here.
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You know, you hear a lot
of negative things about Dennis rodman,
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but people don't actually
know Dennis rodman.
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They just see what they see on the court
and what they read in the papers
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and say, "god, he's a bad person."
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No, I just think
that I created this monster.
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But nobody can say anything bad about me
as a teammate.
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You know,
you got the great Michael Jordan,
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the great scottie pippen,
the great Phil Jackson,
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but if you take me away from this team,
do they still win a championship?
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I don't think so.
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I love Michael Jordan to death.
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I love scottie pippen, all these guys,
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but they really don't do the things
that I do.
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I'm the only guy to go out there
and do all the dirty work,
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taking abuse from other players.
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I want to go out there
and get my nose broken,
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I want go out there and get cut.
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Something that's going to really
just bring out the hurt, the pain.
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I want to feel that.
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A spectacular move!
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And the game's over!
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Chicago stadium is going wild!
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First of all,
there's no backstabbing going on here.
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It's time for me to move on.
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This will be Phil's last year
as the coach of the bulls.
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Are the expectations way too high?
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Where do we go from here?
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The only question:
How long can it last?
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They still m/ght be considered
world champs, but so far this season,
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the Chicago Bulls have looked more like
that old circus act from the '80s
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called Michael and his jordana/res.
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The defending champs need help.
They're reeling, looking average.
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As for ll/lj's supporting cast,
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rodman is having trouble
getting out of the gate.
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Let's go, let's go, fellas.
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First meeting
featuring Michael the player
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against Larry the coach.
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Bulls and pacers.
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Dennis rodman blocked by Dale Davis.
Reggie Miller.
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Look at the crossover.
R/ght past Jordan for the hoop.
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Phil jackso...
We've seen that look before this year.
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Pacers go on to the win,
dropping the bulls to 8-7.
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Last season, Chicago didn't lose
their seventh until game 56.
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We missed a lot of easy shots.
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You know, we haven't really
shot the ball particularly well.
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But, tonight,
what killed us was our rebounding.
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Our rebounding was horrendous.
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We couldn't get the rebound.
We couldn't clear the boards.
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Dennis is...
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He's kind of lagging back there
behind everybody else in,
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you know, his enthusiasm
for the game right now.
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Dennis rodman's the best on-ball
defender I've ever seen in 30 years.
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The problem was that he wasn't
always motivated to play.
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It's another one of those periods
that I'm bored as hell
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and I got to find some way
to put a log on the fire.
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You know, I didn't see it that way.
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There's a lot of things I don't see.
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Most of the time, though,
I see the shit you do.
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Dennis hadn't accepted the role
that scottie wasn't gonna be around,
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and we needed you
to be more accountable.
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I need to count on you.
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So around that time, we had a game,
and he gets kicked out for some shit.
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And I'm livid
because he got kicked out of the game
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and leaves me out there by myself.
'Cause scottie's not playing.
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And Dennis knew he fucked up.
He knew he screwed up.
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I hear someone knocking on my door
at the hotel.
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Now, Dennis never comes to my room.
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And he comes and said,
"man, you got an extra cigar?"
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I went to Michael Jordan's room,
asked for a cigar,
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but I think that he knew the fact that,
you know,
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that I think that's probably his way
of me showing him that, you know, man,
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my thing, my bad.
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He didn't say an apology,
he didn't say anything,
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but by him coming to my room,
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it was his way of saying,
"look, man, I fucked up."
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And from that point on,
Dennis was straight as an arrow.
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And we started to win.
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I'd like to ask all y'all one question:
What time is it?
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Game time! Whoo!
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When scottie left, I think
Mike had a lot of confidence in me to...
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Knowing that I'm gonna be there for him.
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I'm no going to let him down,
I'm not going to let the team down,
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let the city down, no.
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Rodman clears
the defensive board for the bulls.
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The nets gave it a whirl
but just did not have enough.
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The defending champion Chicago Bulls
knocked off the New Jersey nets 700-92.
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Dennis is what held us together
when scottie was out.
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He had to really focus
to make us as competitive as we were.
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We adapt, and we adapt quickly,
and we're off and running.
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Rodman
battling for the rebound, saving it in/
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and kerr snatches it out of the air,
drills it/
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now, that's... that's winning basketball.
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Those are the plays that Dennis rodman
does to make his team great.
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A wesome.
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As a black kid living in projects,
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life was really fuckin' nuts, right.
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It was like, "whoa."
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My mother drove buses for the school.
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And she got sick and tired of my ass
not providing, not doing anything.
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And I think I was... what was I, 18?
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She just got tired of me
and kicked me out,
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so, basically,
I lived in the street for two years.
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I was just trying to bounce around,
see where I could stay at.
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People's backyard, my friend's backyard,
stuff like that,
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so I could have been a drug dealer,
I could have been dead,
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I could have been, shit, anything, man,
at that time.
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I don't know why I never
did that drug stuff, but I never did.
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I'd just sit there and watch them do it,
watch them sell it and stuff like that,
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and I'd walk out the door every day.
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Go to the gym, come back,
do the same thing every day.
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I was just fortunate to start...
Pick up a basketball and start playing.
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And I just got lucky that, you know,
some guy from some college said,
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"Dennis, you want to play for us?"
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I said, "all right, great."
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I went balls out every time.
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I don't know,
I just knew how to go full speed.
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So when I was at college, I averaged,
like, 27 points, 14, 15 rebounds a game.
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I'm trying to, you know,
get through school, you know,
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try to get a degree and things,
you know. And whatever's...
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You know, when I finish school,
I'll just, you know, hope for the best.
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We just had two other picks here
in the second round
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that I'll give to you very quickly.
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Greg dreiling went to Indiana,
the big center,
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and Dennis rodman, the youngster
from southeast Oklahoma state,
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went to Detroit
as the 27th pick in the 1986 draft.
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When he first came to Detroit,
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he was just an innocent,
beautiful person.
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But a little naive about,
like, the world.
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He was simple at that time.
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Like, he would say,
"man, you don't know life
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till you can just go out,
get away from everybody,
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make a fire, you know,
cook your food outside,
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and just look at the stars."
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I think the second
and third year in the league,
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I actually figured out
what I can do best...
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Rebound and play defense.
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Basically, I just started learning
how to perfect that.
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Holy cow! How about this 7
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I just used to have my friends
late at night,
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shit, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning,
we go to the gym.
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I'd say, "shoot the ball.
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Shoot over here, shoot over here,
shoot over there, shoot over there."
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I'd just sit there and react, react.
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I just practiced a lot about the angle
of the ball and the trajectory of it.
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You got a Larry bird, it's gonna spin.
You got a magic, it'll maybe spin.
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When Michael shoot over here,
I'd position myself right there.
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Now it hit the rim, it's boom, uh.
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Click and go back this way.
Boom, here to here.
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Click, it'll go that way.
Boom, that way.
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Click here and go like this way.
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So, basically, I just started learning
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how to put myself in a position
to get the ball.
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Rebound kept alive by rodman.
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I was pretty much like that rash...
On players.
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Always that rash
you can't ever get rid of, right?
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Dennis rodman was the fuck-up person.
He just fucks everything up.
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He's a pest,
shuttin' down whoever he wanted to.
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It was always a challenge.
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He was one of them players
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that would change the game
just by his presence.
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I'll tell you,
you talk about coaches' dreams...
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There aren't many players like him.
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Couldn't be a player I'm more proud of
and proud to be associated with.
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He had a great relationship
with Chuck daly.
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Chuck was the only person
that understood him.
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Here. Let's say you got stop sign,
you're in here playing your defense.
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Lock him here.
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I remember one time
I was working with Dennis,
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and then Chuck called me over,
and he said,
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"just leave him alone.
You don't put a saddle on a mustang.
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- Did you have that reputation?
- No. I built that in Detroit.
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There's no disputing that Detroit is one
of the most physical teams in the NBA,
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and it's all part of their strategy
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to take their opponents
out of their rhythm.
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The Detroit pistons
were the epitome of the physical, tough,
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hard-nosed brand
of half-court basketball.
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They had big, strong guys in laimbeer,
and mahorn, rodman, salley.
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They had a great defensive player
in Joe dumars.
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They had Isiah Thomas.
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I don't think they cared.
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I/I/I/kins gets
knocked to the deck, and watch ll/lahorn.
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Rivers... oh, pushed hard/
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I mean, he was driven to the floor.
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At that time in the NBA,
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basically,
you could do anything you want.
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- Compared to today...
- 30 years ago, shit.
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Back then, you could just sit there
and just literally beat people up.
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And still get away with it
without a technical or anything.
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Dennis rodman and lohaus
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under the basket going at it.
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We're like a hockey team. Everybody
want to see us fight.
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Rick mahorn told me
how to elbow and said,
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"if you hit somebody, do it on purpose."
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Don't get a cheap foul, that's stupid.
If you gonna hit him, hit him.
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The acquired the moniker the "bad boys."
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They played a tough, intimidating style,
and a lot of people didn't like it
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'cause it was getting away
from the beauty of basketball.
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Bird and laimbeer go at it.
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We weren't the league's favorite.
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We weren't the pretty team
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that had got invited to the Lakers'
and celtics' party.
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When we showed up,
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it was almost like
we were crashing their party.
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This is the way the game of basketball
was played at the time.
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These guys on the other side
may not be as talented,
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but when you do come to Detroit,
you gonna get your ass whooped.
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We've got a fight.
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Laimbeer and daugherty
really going after it...
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We just basically just,
"okay, we're the bad boys."
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We just started feeding into it.
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Next thing you know,
we starting to win, win, win.
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It's over. Detroit wins.
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The pistons had overtaken the celtics
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as kings of the eastern conference,
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and they're rolling along
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just as the bulls
are really starting to emerge.
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In '86-'87, when
Jerry krause made a head coaching hire,
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I think we all felt
that we needed something different.
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This speaks to Jerry's strengths.
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He identified a young Doug Collins,
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who he felt would bring an energy
and enthusiasm that a young team needed.
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This is a game that we're gonna
have to go out and have high energy.
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We have a high energy level.
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Win tonight, we got tomorrow off, so
you can spend all night in Los Angeles
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doing whatever you want to do tonight.
I don't care.
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Othennise,
we got practice tomorrow afternoon.
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Dougie was
a breath of fresh air, you know.
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He believed in everything
that I believed in. He wanted to win.
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He was an easy guy,
great guy to play for.
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Welcome, sports fans.
This is the Chicago sports casino.
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Bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet.
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But we know why he win.
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- He got kids.
- Kids, that's right.
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Doug's energy on the sideline
was unparalleled.
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He'd walk off the floor after a game,
and he would be drenched in sweat.
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I mean, he looked like he played.
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Let's make sure, above all,
we get some rest.
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Detroit, we're 1-and... 4
against those.
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And it's on national TV,
and I want to beat those guys on Sunday.
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So let's get ready to go.
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- All right, let's go.
- Yeah!
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The year before I came,
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the bulls had been eliminated by Boston
in the playoffs.
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The ball game is over.
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The series goes to Boston
in three stra/ght.
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The final score, 722-704, celtics.
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The roster was a little thin
at that time.
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I'd seen Michael play, but I really
never had spent any time around him.
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Number 34, Charles oakley
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Our second best player
at the time was Charles oakley,
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who was a vicious rebounder,
brought a lot of toughness.
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You know, John paxson was on that team,
Dave corzine.
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And their head coach, Doug col/ins.
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The first game I coached,
we went to Madison square garden.
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And the Knicks had Patrick ewing,
bill Cartwright, and they were loaded.
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Hubie brown, the hall of fame coach.
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Two minutes to go in the game.
The game was tied.
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I'm soaking wet with sweat.
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I chewed my gum to a powder.
It's around my mouth.
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And I saw this hand come out
with a cup of water,
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and it was Michael Jordan.
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And he looked at me, and he said,
"coach, take a drink of that water,
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clean that stuff off your mouth.
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I'm not gonna let you
lose your first game."
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Here is Jordan again.
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All alone.
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Turns, off the glass.
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Forty-two points for Michael Jordan.
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7'en seconds on the shot clock.
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Rory sparrow working on him.
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Jordan to the basket, scores.
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And he went out and scored
the last ten points of the game,
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ended up with 50.
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Michael Jordan setting
a new Madison square garden record
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for an opposing player ton/ght,
scoring 50 points.
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And the Chicago Bulls make Doug col/ins
a winner his first time out,
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and it is a happy Doug Collins
on the far side.
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I remember being on the plane
going back to Chicago.
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I said, "wow, I mean, this guy is
something like I've never seen before."
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Doug and I were like this, you know.
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He'd design an offense
to support the way I played the game
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and the way he wanted to coach.
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It's all right, Michael. It's all right.
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I think he loved my competitiveness.
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He understands that the greatest respect
you can give a great player
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is to coach him and coach him hard.
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Michael's big thing was,
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"stack the practice against me,
and I'll still win."
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Doug always tried to maintain
a competitive advantage in practice.
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I'd be with the starting five...
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And then, next thing you know,
in the middle of us winning,
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he'd put me with the second team.
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But there was one day at practice,
he got upset,
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thought I was cheating on the score.
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And he got upset and left practice.
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And we came back the next day,
and they were asking,
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"have you talked to Michael
since practice yesterday?"
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I said, "really haven't
had a chance to... we will."
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And about that time, Michael came out,
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and I reached over, and I grabbed him,
and I kissed him on the cheek.
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I said, "I love him, he loves me."
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Would you come here a second
so we can kiss on TV here, please?
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- There we go.
- Would you... would you...
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Would you tell them everything is fine?
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- Aw.
- Okay, we've kissed and made up now.
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I coached him for three years.
From the '86-'87 season through '88-'89.
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When I was coaching him,
he was the mvp of the league...
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He was the mvp
of the all-star game...
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Michael Jordan.
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He won the slam-dunk competition...
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And he was
the defensive player of the year.
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Pass stolen by Jordan.
Michael Jordan takes it coast-to-coast.
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I/I/hoo/
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that's greatness, you know.
I mean, he was now the best player.
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Michael on a breakaway. For the two/
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a two-hand dunk by Jordan.
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There's Jordan, goes in for a dunk/
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Jordan gets in.
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Basket counts, and the foul/
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Jordan's got the ball.
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Jordan getting around Scott,
and he slam dunks/
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jโ all hail the new king in town jโ
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From the left. He got it
swatted out of the air by Jordan.
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Michael on a breakaway.
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Jโ young and old, gather around jโ
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Jโ black and white, red and green jโ
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jโ oh, yeah, funkyjโ
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jโ the funkiest man you've ever seen jโ
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jโ tell you what his name is jโ
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jโ partyman, partyman jโ
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jโ rock a party like nobody can jโ
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They go to chambers.
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Jordan has him and pops the ball away,
6 to shoot.
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Jordan popped it a way again
and makes the steal.
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Jโ partyman jโ
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jโ party people, say it now jโ
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jโ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah jโ
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I/I/hoa/
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jโ somebody hol/a if you want to party jโ
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I'ahohj"
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jโ partyman, partyman jโ
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jโ young and old, gather round jโ
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jโ everybody hail the new king in town jโ
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Under Doug Collins,
the bulls were rapidly improving,
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and suddenly becoming a real contender
in the eastern conference.
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Detroit was certainly, at the time,
the team to beat in the east,
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but who was going
to be their challenger?
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Who was going to really rise up
and challenge Detroit?
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It was going to be one of two teams.
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The bulls were in ascension, obviously,
at that time
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with their young core of Jordan
and pippen and Horace Grant.
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But Cleveland was, at the time,
a great team.
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So these are the two rising teams
in the east.
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The bulls
were going to play Cleveland in '89
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in a best three of five.
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Most basketball observers
believed Cleveland was better.
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Nobody has picked the bulls.
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Everybody in the media, we picked cavs,
everybody's picked nationally, the cavs.
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Back then, we played teams
six times in our division.
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They beat us six times, 6-0.
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So now, in our mind,
we got nothing to lose.
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Bulls win the first game,
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and then,
Cleveland wins the second in Cleveland.
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We go back to Chicago.
Bulls win game three.
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Chicago wins in 707-94.
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Game four, Jordan's got a free throw
at the end of regulation... misses.
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Ll/lissed it. The cavaliers
have kept their hopes alive.
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We go back to Cleveland for game five.
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And welcome to
richfl'e/d coliseum for game five
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between the Chicago Bulls
and the c/e ve/and cavaliers.
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Up to that time, the franchise,
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the history of the bulls
was blowing leads.
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And you're like, โoh, my god.
This is gonna happen again.
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They're gonna do this.
They're gonna blow this.
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They're gonna lose the series
to Cleveland."
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So the game's about to start,
and there was two other beat writers.
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Beat writer from the sun-times,
Lacy banks,
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and Kent mcdill from the herald, and me.
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And Lacy's picked cavs
to sweep in three,
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Kent's picked the cavs to win in four,
and I've picked the cavs to win in five.
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So, Michael...
The game's just about to start,
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and Michael walks over to Lacy
and points and says,
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"we took care of you."
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Then he looks at Kent, and he says,
"we took care of you."
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Then he looks at me and,
"we take care of you today."
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Caught by Ron Harper
in the backcourt, and the y're underway.
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C/e ve/and has it.
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We went back and forth the whole time.
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Jordan against Harper.
Great turnaround
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And it was a very tough game.
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This is the playoffs,
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and here we have
two great teams right here,
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guys that lay it out.
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It was a constant battle.
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We have had drama here
in the final minutes of the game.
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Eleven seconds to go.
In the middle of the floor.
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Jordan has it,
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and Jordan puts up a jumper
and hits with six seconds to go.
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Jordan hits the basket
and now has 42 points in the game.
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And the cavaliers
have called a time-out.
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Eh/o will inbound
he gets it into Nance.
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Gets the ball back, drives to the hoop,
lays it in with three seconds to go.
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Here's our story here
at richfie/d coliseum.
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One of these teams will advance.
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It has been a thrilling game.
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7'he bulls have three seconds
to try a shot and try to win the game.
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00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:17,355
Everybody knew
where the ball was gonna go.
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You know,
they had Craig ehlo on me at the time,
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which, in all honesty, was a mistake.
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Because the guy that played me better
was Ron Harper.
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We up by one.
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I said, "coach, I got mj. I got mj."
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So the coach tells me,
"I'm gonna put ehlo on mj."
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And I'm like...
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"Yeah, okay, whatever.
Fuck this bullshit."
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We drew a play
where I was coming to the ball...
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But I only had time enough to
get one dribble and get a jump shot off.
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We were gonna live and die
with that scenario.
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So I was doing everything I can
to get the ball.
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The inbounds pass
comes in to Jordan.
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Here's ll/lichae/ at the foul line.
A shot on ehlo... good/
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the bulls win it/ they win it/
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and Chicago has knocked off the ca vs,
707 - 700.
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00:24:25,173 --> 00:24:27,550
Michael! Michael,
you stuck it, baby!
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00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,595
Michael, you stuck it, baby!
You stuck it!
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00:24:30,678 --> 00:24:31,721
Yeah!
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00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:35,975
I feel very vindicated from when
we started the playoffs,
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with the damn look
that everybody was giving us.
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00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:40,688
Even I asked you in the locker room,
I asked everybody,
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you know, what was the feeling
back in Chicago?
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00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,691
Did the writers talk yet?
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00:24:43,775 --> 00:24:46,110
And you said some of them
have written us off.
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I said, "well, tell those guys
to stay home."
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Somebody had written or said
that the bulls were going to go home,
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send them home.
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00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:56,037
And so, when he hits the shot,
"go home, motherfuckers, go home."
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00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,955
Get the fuck out of here.
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00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,124
Go fuckin' anywhere,
but you're out of here.
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00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,877
Whoever's not with us,
all you fuckers go to hell.
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00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,297
Jordan beat 'em at the
buzzer with a jump shot in the circle.
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It was so dramatic, and it was typical
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of what we would see Michael do
the rest of his career in big moments.
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That shot enabled the bulls
to start growing
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and believing that something special
was on the horizon.
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00:25:19,769 --> 00:25:22,897
We finally got over the hump
of the losers' mentality.
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00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,441
We were starting to become
a winning franchise.
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00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:28,444
And you know, the sky was the limit.
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How h/gh can this man fiy?
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00:25:32,949 --> 00:25:34,409
Michael Jordan is soaring,
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00:25:34,492 --> 00:25:36,786
and the Chicago Bulls
are going fight with him.
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But now, Superman
faces his toughest test,
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as we bring you the first game
of the eastern conference championsh/p
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between the underdog Chicago Bulls
and the favored Detroit pistons.
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00:25:51,134 --> 00:25:55,096
The NBA was invested
in making Michael Jordan its star.
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00:25:55,763 --> 00:25:59,809
The pistons were... slowing that down.
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00:25:59,892 --> 00:26:05,690
We knew how important to the NBA it was
to get Michael to go to the next level.
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00:26:05,773 --> 00:26:10,945
The blueprint was Larry, magic,
now Michael.
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00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:15,158
And all of a sudden,
there was this little team in Detroit
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who just messed up the whole story.
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00:26:17,535 --> 00:26:19,036
We loved that.
463
00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:25,334
Oh, I hated 'em.
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And that hate carries even to this day.
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They made it personal.
They physically beat the shit out of us.
466
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,969
When we played the pistons
in that series,
467
00:26:35,052 --> 00:26:38,556
it was arm-to-arm physical combat.
468
00:26:40,516 --> 00:26:42,935
But we never backed down.
We fought them.
469
00:26:43,019 --> 00:26:46,606
7'he bulls have won the first game.
470
00:26:46,689 --> 00:26:49,525
So we got game one. They won game two.
471
00:26:50,318 --> 00:26:51,819
We came back to Chicago.
472
00:26:51,903 --> 00:26:54,280
Michael had
one of the most incredible games.
473
00:26:55,156 --> 00:26:57,450
Jordan, steal. He kept it inbounds.
474
00:26:57,533 --> 00:26:59,702
Here it is again.
475
00:26:59,786 --> 00:27:01,204
Oh/ yes/
476
00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:07,502
you 'i/ see him elevate, do a 360,
and just toss it up.
477
00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:09,670
P/ppen finds Jordan. There it is.
478
00:27:09,754 --> 00:27:11,964
Rodman is on him, one-on-one.
479
00:27:12,048 --> 00:27:16,260
Five seconds to go.
Jordan off the glass... oh/
480
00:27:17,553 --> 00:27:19,597
it's over! Chicago wins!
481
00:27:25,686 --> 00:27:28,898
That was get the ball to Michael,
everybody get the fuck out of the way...
482
00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:31,150
And go to the basket.
483
00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:36,239
Jordan pretty much took over the game,
484
00:27:36,322 --> 00:27:38,616
made all the big field goals
down the stretch.
485
00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:41,536
Show like the... showed the superstar
that he really is.
486
00:27:46,207 --> 00:27:49,585
We knew Michael Jordan
was the greatest player,
487
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:53,506
and we tried to use it as a rallying cry
to come together.
488
00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:58,094
We had to do everything,
from a physicality standpoint,
489
00:27:58,177 --> 00:27:59,470
to stop him.
490
00:27:59,554 --> 00:28:03,307
Detroit had
"Jordan rules" just for Michael.
491
00:28:03,933 --> 00:28:05,726
I don't know
how he came out of it alive.
492
00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:08,152
The infamous Jordan rules,
493
00:28:08,229 --> 00:28:11,649
the pistons' defensive tactics
des/gned to contain their namesake,
494
00:28:11,732 --> 00:28:14,360
are enforced
whenever Michael is on the floor.
495
00:28:14,443 --> 00:28:16,737
When he was in the air, we had no shot,
496
00:28:16,821 --> 00:28:19,699
uh, but you know,
when everything was on the floor,
497
00:28:19,782 --> 00:28:21,033
you can hold your own.
498
00:28:21,117 --> 00:28:23,244
You have to stop him
before he takes flight,
499
00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:25,204
'cause, you know, he's not human.
500
00:28:25,288 --> 00:28:27,373
Michael Jordan fouled
501
00:28:27,456 --> 00:28:29,292
Jordan... foul.
502
00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:31,210
Jordan again pushed
503
00:28:31,294 --> 00:28:34,380
Here again, the implementation
of the Jordan rules.
504
00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:39,051
7'he pistons
will even it up at two-apiece.
505
00:28:39,135 --> 00:28:42,305
The story of this game,
the Detroit defense.
506
00:28:42,972 --> 00:28:45,433
This is what the Jordan rules were.
507
00:28:45,516 --> 00:28:49,186
On the wings,
we were going to push him to the elbow,
508
00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:52,273
and we're not going to let him
drive to the baseline.
509
00:28:53,608 --> 00:28:58,112
Number two, when he's on top, we're
going to influence him to his left.
510
00:28:58,779 --> 00:29:03,034
When he got the ball in the low post,
we were gonna trap him from the top.
511
00:29:03,117 --> 00:29:05,536
That's the Jordan rules,
and it was that simple.
512
00:29:09,498 --> 00:29:12,877
That's when laimbeer and mahorn would
go up knock him down to the ground.
513
00:29:15,046 --> 00:29:19,091
As soon as he steps in the paint...
Hit him.
514
00:29:20,009 --> 00:29:22,345
Chuck daly said,
"this is the Jordan rule.
515
00:29:22,428 --> 00:29:24,908
Every time he go to the fuckin' basket,
put him on the ground."
516
00:29:25,806 --> 00:29:27,451
When he comes to the basket,
he ain't gonna duck.
517
00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:29,453
We're gonna hit you,
and you're gonna be on the ground.
518
00:29:29,477 --> 00:29:30,871
Jordan was still down.
519
00:29:30,895 --> 00:29:32,581
We're trying to physically hurt Michael.
520
00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:34,941
Jordan had no place to go.
521
00:29:35,024 --> 00:29:36,233
Clobbered
522
00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:38,986
How bad do you want it?
523
00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:42,782
Are you willing to be injured
to score a basket?
524
00:29:42,865 --> 00:29:44,945
And the pistons
want to make Jordan pay
525
00:29:44,992 --> 00:29:46,452
whenever he gets in the paint.
526
00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:47,935
And the referees back then
527
00:29:47,995 --> 00:29:49,872
didn't look to see
if Michael was hurt or not.
528
00:29:49,956 --> 00:29:53,334
It wasn't make sure
that the savior is okay.
529
00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:55,378
That wasn't the way it is.
530
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:59,131
It is over at the palace!
531
00:29:59,215 --> 00:30:01,634
The pistons have beaten the bulls.
532
00:30:02,593 --> 00:30:04,845
I could compare Michael Jordan to nobody
533
00:30:04,929 --> 00:30:09,266
because for him to survive that
and still maintain that greatness,
534
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:11,268
I mean, it's very unparalleled.
535
00:30:11,352 --> 00:30:15,564
We were not ready for the Detroit
pistons at that point in time.
536
00:30:15,648 --> 00:30:19,777
They were more physical than us.
Uh, they were the aggressors.
537
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:21,404
Detroit had our number.
538
00:30:21,487 --> 00:30:25,199
The Detroit pistons,
by virtue of a 703-94 victory,
539
00:30:25,282 --> 00:30:28,494
have eliminated the bulls
and indeed are headed for the final.
540
00:30:28,577 --> 00:30:31,747
Unfortunately for the bulls,
the story was the same...
541
00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:33,499
Control Michael, and the win is yours.
542
00:30:37,253 --> 00:30:39,296
We did not have, as a unit,
543
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:42,383
the confidence that we felt like
we needed to beat Detroit.
544
00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:44,194
And the game's over,
545
00:30:44,218 --> 00:30:46,345
and the pistons have won
the world championship.
546
00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,641
They're going down in the record books
547
00:30:50,725 --> 00:30:54,061
as one of the greatest defensive teams
ever in the history of this league.
548
00:30:54,854 --> 00:30:58,524
It seems that, in sports,
there's always that one team
549
00:30:58,607 --> 00:31:00,735
that you have to overcome,
550
00:31:00,818 --> 00:31:04,488
and you almost build your team
to beat them.
551
00:31:04,572 --> 00:31:09,326
And unequivocally, for the bulls,
it was the pistons.
552
00:31:19,837 --> 00:31:21,756
A friend of Dennis rodman
was worried enough
553
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:26,218
about the piston's whereabouts overnight
that he called 911 to initiate a search.
554
00:31:26,302 --> 00:31:30,056
Police found rodman at the palace
early this morning in auburn hills.
555
00:31:30,139 --> 00:31:33,350
Rodman had taken
his legally registered rifle with him.
556
00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:35,936
His mood characterized as despondent.
557
00:31:42,777 --> 00:31:43,819
I'm here.
558
00:31:44,278 --> 00:31:46,131
That's Dennis
at about 8:00 this morning,
559
00:31:46,155 --> 00:31:48,407
trying to assure reporters
that he's fine,
560
00:31:48,491 --> 00:31:50,951
that he's not on the verge
of an emotional breakdown,
561
00:31:51,035 --> 00:31:52,870
and that he did nothing
out of the ordinary,
562
00:31:52,953 --> 00:31:54,205
at least for him.
563
00:31:54,288 --> 00:31:57,666
The report that we had is,
uh, that he took a gun,
564
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:59,293
had a gun in his truck.
565
00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:01,837
Uh, have you heard that?
Can you confirm that?
566
00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:04,757
I've heard that, yeah.
That's all I know.
567
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,260
I had a gun in my hand, like,
on the front seat.
568
00:32:09,011 --> 00:32:13,849
Luckily, I fell asleep,
and the cops came and got me.
569
00:32:15,101 --> 00:32:16,769
I was at a lost place at that time.
570
00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:18,979
Just a lost place.
571
00:32:22,024 --> 00:32:26,904
That time in my life, I think that
was a wake-up call and a rescue call.
572
00:32:26,987 --> 00:32:29,073
Last night may have been the last time
573
00:32:29,156 --> 00:32:31,534
we see Dennis rodman
in a pistons uniform.
574
00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:34,954
Dennis rodman used to be a piston.
Ehh... he's out of there.
575
00:32:35,037 --> 00:32:38,999
The I/I/orm is nowa spur,
traded for Sean Elliott and David wood
576
00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:43,504
Dennis goes to San Antonio,
and then demolition ll/lan comes out,
577
00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,047
and he changes his hair color.
578
00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:46,674
That's me, that's Dennis rodman.
579
00:32:48,342 --> 00:32:49,611
I'm not trying to please anybody.
580
00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:53,681
And then, Madonna goes, "he's cute,"
and they started seeing each other.
581
00:32:54,598 --> 00:32:56,559
Madonna explained to him,
582
00:32:56,642 --> 00:33:00,312
"you have to establish
who you want to be in this life.
583
00:33:00,396 --> 00:33:03,107
Don't be who they tell you
you should be."
584
00:33:04,191 --> 00:33:08,988
He started realizing
he can push to any boundary,
585
00:33:09,071 --> 00:33:11,157
and that's a freedom.
586
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,035
People that write the things in the
paper don't really know Dennis rodman.
587
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:16,179
They don't even talk to me,
588
00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:18,431
so they just have to write something
that's crazy and stupid
589
00:33:18,455 --> 00:33:20,499
to make me look like an asshole.
590
00:33:20,583 --> 00:33:23,961
I just want to do something
that makes me feel like I'm free,
591
00:33:24,044 --> 00:33:26,463
that I can go do anything I want to do.
592
00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:30,384
What does it mean... the outfits,
the tattoos, the sunglasses,
593
00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:33,721
the... the velvet hat,
the rings, the St...
594
00:33:34,305 --> 00:33:35,347
Why?
595
00:33:35,431 --> 00:33:37,683
I like doing what I'm doing.
596
00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:40,978
It's making me happy, making me feel
like I'm a ten-year-old kid.
597
00:33:41,061 --> 00:33:44,857
Can I ask you to do one thing for me
before we leave this interview?
598
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,109
- Take off the hat and let me see that.
- Why am I...
599
00:33:47,193 --> 00:33:49,212
Take off the hat
and let me see what color it is.
600
00:33:49,236 --> 00:33:50,237
It's no color.
601
00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:52,948
You know, I've been pretty much lazy
and just the hell with it.
602
00:33:53,032 --> 00:33:54,533
I'm thinking about shaving it off.
603
00:33:57,494 --> 00:33:59,622
I wanted no part of Dennis.
604
00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:01,141
Didn't want anything to do with him.
605
00:34:01,165 --> 00:34:04,793
And Jimmy stack,
who was my assistant at that point,
606
00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:06,396
came to me and said,
"let's talk about rodman."
607
00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:08,797
I said, "no, I don't want to
talk about rodman."
608
00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:11,300
And he said,
"jer, I've done some homework.
609
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:15,471
I really felt like I had
a different perspective on Dennis.
610
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:18,766
By Dennis rodman,
who already has a t.
611
00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:21,936
Gets another one, and out he goes.
612
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:27,274
Dennis was acting out in San Antonio,
613
00:34:27,358 --> 00:34:30,152
but I just felt like
the structure that we had
614
00:34:30,236 --> 00:34:31,956
with Michael and scottie
and the leadership,
615
00:34:32,029 --> 00:34:35,741
Dennis would respect those guys
and play and thrive.
616
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,994
If we had not had
Michael and scottie
617
00:34:39,078 --> 00:34:41,723
and the people in that locker room,
we would have never taken Dennis.
618
00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:44,667
And if Phil had not been the coach,
I don't think we'd have taken him.
619
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:46,835
Uh, because I knew
that Phil could handle him.
620
00:34:50,506 --> 00:34:51,674
It was awful.
621
00:34:53,092 --> 00:34:55,219
I walk into Jerry krause's house.
622
00:34:56,095 --> 00:34:57,263
He's sitting on the couch.
623
00:34:57,346 --> 00:34:59,932
He's got a poor boy hat over his eyes,
624
00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:02,726
he's got the rings in his nose
and his mouth,
625
00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:04,436
and he doesn't stand up to meet me.
626
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,232
So I said, "stand up, Dennis.
Take your hat off, shake hands.
627
00:35:08,315 --> 00:35:09,483
Let's go outside and talk."
628
00:35:09,566 --> 00:35:13,404
We had to break bread then at the house,
so basically said,
629
00:35:13,487 --> 00:35:14,923
"Dennis, you want to come play
for the bulls?"
630
00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:17,741
I said, "I don't care.
Whatever, what's up?โ
631
00:35:17,825 --> 00:35:20,160
last week, the bulls announced
the acquisition of a player
632
00:35:20,244 --> 00:35:21,412
many people consider
633
00:35:21,495 --> 00:35:24,164
the most controversial basketball star
in the NBA.
634
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:28,669
He is Dennis rodman, one of
the best rebounders in NBA history.
635
00:35:29,169 --> 00:35:31,588
Is it one of the shrewdest moves
the bulls have ever made,
636
00:35:31,672 --> 00:35:32,673
or one of the dumbest?
637
00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:34,925
There was this visceral reaction
to rodman.
638
00:35:35,009 --> 00:35:38,679
Rodman was at the center
of the most hated team
639
00:35:38,762 --> 00:35:40,014
in the history of Chicago.
640
00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:44,560
We all thought, well, there's no way
they would ever accept him.
641
00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:47,730
Like, even if they sign him,
they'll never accept him. You know.
642
00:35:47,813 --> 00:35:50,983
And to their credit,
Jordan and pippen especially say,
643
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:54,320
"hey, he can help us win.
You know, we know how tough he is."
644
00:35:54,403 --> 00:35:58,324
Jโ yeah jโ
645
00:36:02,328 --> 00:36:03,954
Like a hand in a glove.
646
00:36:04,913 --> 00:36:07,875
Dennis was a dominant defensive player,
647
00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:11,170
and what Dennis brought
was exactly what we needed,
648
00:36:11,253 --> 00:36:14,506
somebody who gave us that edge
on the front line.
649
00:36:14,590 --> 00:36:17,468
Jโ who is the man
comin' down your block? Jโ
650
00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:20,304
jโ it's me you see
with the funk in my walk jโ
651
00:36:20,387 --> 00:36:22,556
jโ 'cause I'm doin ' just what / like to jโ
652
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,225
jโ today is my day, yeah
and I'ma get nice too... jโ
653
00:36:25,309 --> 00:36:28,103
if he do his job,
then we're gonna love him.
654
00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:31,607
Play basketball, and win. That's it.
655
00:36:32,358 --> 00:36:33,734
That's what he did.
656
00:36:33,817 --> 00:36:36,153
Jโ I am the maestro jโ
657
00:36:36,236 --> 00:36:38,280
jโ yeah, you motherfuckers jโ
658
00:36:38,364 --> 00:36:39,573
j" I'm all that Iโ
659
00:36:39,656 --> 00:36:41,325
jโ lsee you lookin'at me sayin'jโ
660
00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:44,828
jโ how can he be so skinny
and live so phat? Jโ
661
00:36:44,912 --> 00:36:46,181
jโ you know why, 'cause I'm... jโ
662
00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:48,665
Dennis is one of the smartest guys
I played with.
663
00:36:48,749 --> 00:36:52,252
He understood defensive strategy
with all the rotations,
664
00:36:52,336 --> 00:36:54,922
he had no limits, you know,
in terms of what he does.
665
00:36:55,005 --> 00:36:57,716
He could guard multiple players.
666
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,887
He studied each guy. He knew
players' strengths and weaknesses.
667
00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:04,598
Rodman, the interception.
668
00:37:04,681 --> 00:37:07,434
Dennis knows how to play his role well.
669
00:37:07,518 --> 00:37:11,772
He has a great understanding
of what it takes to win.
670
00:37:12,815 --> 00:37:15,109
He's a huge reason for our success.
671
00:37:15,192 --> 00:37:18,278
Jโ who is the man? Who is the man? Jโ
672
00:37:19,822 --> 00:37:23,659
jโ who is the man? Who is the man? Jโ
673
00:37:25,327 --> 00:37:26,954
jโ ll/laestro jโ
674
00:37:55,816 --> 00:37:57,627
You know I was just kidding.
675
00:37:57,651 --> 00:38:00,654
I know. You gave me
a good article the other day.
676
00:38:00,737 --> 00:38:02,448
- I appreciate that.
- Which one?
677
00:38:02,531 --> 00:38:04,801
The one that you said,
"quit worrying about what he's gonna do
678
00:38:04,825 --> 00:38:05,993
and live for the present.
679
00:38:06,076 --> 00:38:08,036
Don't worry about next year.
Leave him alone.
680
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,330
Quit asking stupid questions
about what's happening."
681
00:38:10,414 --> 00:38:11,623
I'm sick of it, too.
682
00:38:11,707 --> 00:38:13,459
I'm tired of it.
I'm totally tired of it.
683
00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:14,811
I'm gonna stop talking to y'all.
684
00:38:14,835 --> 00:38:16,211
Just say, "next question."
685
00:38:16,295 --> 00:38:19,423
I mean, y'all guys, you guys don't
do it anymore, but it's on the road.
686
00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:20,546
That's what kills me, man.
687
00:38:20,591 --> 00:38:23,635
It's got to be a little
draining... every city, it's like,
688
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,555
"is it Michael's last game?" And
everything that's going on with that.
689
00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:29,808
Is it wearing on you a little?
Does it wear on you a little bit?
690
00:38:29,892 --> 00:38:30,976
Yeah, it gets old.
691
00:38:31,059 --> 00:38:33,499
Questions don't change,
and the answer's pretty much the same.
692
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,107
Wouldn't it be nice if bulls fans
could enjoy this title run
693
00:38:37,191 --> 00:38:39,751
without worrying that it could be
the final running of the bulls?
694
00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:42,029
More questions in that vein
for Michael Jordan today.
695
00:38:42,112 --> 00:38:44,156
Have you said this is your last year?
696
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,009
Is this your last outing
in the bay area?
697
00:38:46,033 --> 00:38:47,302
Is it your last season?
698
00:38:47,326 --> 00:38:49,262
You get a sense
it's Michael's final run as a bull?
699
00:38:49,286 --> 00:38:51,006
Is tonight your last time here?
700
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:52,498
Should he retire?
701
00:38:52,581 --> 00:38:53,582
It's his decision.
702
00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:56,502
We're required to ask
every game if you're gonna retire.
703
00:38:56,585 --> 00:38:57,896
You're gonna get the same answer.
704
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,757
Although I may have the same answers,
I've practiced them quite a bit.
705
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,091
I don't know. I don't know.
706
00:39:03,175 --> 00:39:04,843
You never know. You never know.
707
00:39:04,927 --> 00:39:06,053
Beats me.
708
00:39:06,136 --> 00:39:09,264
This may be the last time,
last dance, whatever, but...
709
00:39:09,348 --> 00:39:11,683
I'm not focusing on that.
I'm just focusing on the moment.
710
00:39:11,767 --> 00:39:14,520
You enjoy the moment,
you know, enjoy the game.
711
00:39:14,603 --> 00:39:17,564
And whatever happens
for this organization, you know,
712
00:39:17,648 --> 00:39:19,000
at the end of the season, happens.
713
00:39:19,024 --> 00:39:20,293
What happens after that happens.
714
00:39:20,317 --> 00:39:24,029
I think people, or the media, basically,
are trying to redirect
715
00:39:24,112 --> 00:39:27,157
or trying to change some kind of
little emphasis within the question
716
00:39:27,241 --> 00:39:30,869
to see if my answers change, you know,
and my response don't change.
717
00:39:30,953 --> 00:39:32,753
So what about next year, Michael?
718
00:39:35,332 --> 00:39:36,875
You guys are... I love you guys.
719
00:39:38,168 --> 00:39:39,169
Excuse me.
720
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,934
Okay, everybody,
let's go meet the sniff brothers.
721
00:39:58,397 --> 00:40:00,774
These are the sniff brothers over here.
722
00:40:00,857 --> 00:40:07,072
There's Gus sniff, ct sniff,
Calvin sniff, Tom sniff...
723
00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:09,008
- John Michael sniff.
- John Michael sniff...
724
00:40:09,032 --> 00:40:10,760
- George sniff.
- These are all the sniff brothers.
725
00:40:10,784 --> 00:40:12,619
They take care of Michael over here.
726
00:40:12,703 --> 00:40:16,540
Sniff brothers
are Michael's security guys.
727
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,251
A sniff brother
is actually a jock sniffer...
728
00:40:19,334 --> 00:40:22,504
So we used to say everybody
who was sniffing Michael's jocks
729
00:40:22,588 --> 00:40:24,315
are all those guys
who would always be around.
730
00:40:24,339 --> 00:40:28,760
He's the general sniff right here.
Brigadier general Gus sniff.
731
00:40:28,844 --> 00:40:31,054
Brigadier general?
732
00:40:35,142 --> 00:40:37,328
Come on, man, y'all get out of here.
We got a heated debate.
733
00:40:37,352 --> 00:40:39,271
We got a heated debate
about the president.
734
00:40:39,354 --> 00:40:41,356
- Y'all got to get out of here.
- Oh, oh.
735
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,280
He'll be running the country next week.
736
00:40:43,317 --> 00:40:45,117
You got it?
He's gonna be running the country.
737
00:40:45,193 --> 00:40:47,153
If the president had sniff brothers,
738
00:40:47,195 --> 00:40:48,447
he wouldn't have this problem.
739
00:40:56,997 --> 00:40:58,248
That'll pay for my fine, see?
740
00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:00,500
See what I'm saying?
741
00:41:01,043 --> 00:41:02,895
All people that's in the business
are quirky, too.
742
00:41:02,919 --> 00:41:04,588
I'm letting you know now.
743
00:41:04,671 --> 00:41:08,091
That was Craig sager gave me 20 bucks
to pay for my fine.
744
00:41:08,592 --> 00:41:11,192
- Sounds like a bribe... reporter.
- That's what I'm saying.
745
00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:17,976
He's just saying hi.
746
00:41:21,188 --> 00:41:23,815
- Thank you so much.
- Here you go.
747
00:41:23,899 --> 00:41:25,692
They love you so much.
748
00:41:25,776 --> 00:41:28,320
Entertainment...
Entertainment, full-time basketball.
749
00:41:28,403 --> 00:41:30,530
Oh, my god!
750
00:41:30,614 --> 00:41:32,324
- Dennis!
- Thank you!
751
00:41:32,407 --> 00:41:33,408
Just a signature.
752
00:41:39,373 --> 00:41:40,957
Yes, it's awesome.
753
00:41:41,041 --> 00:41:42,042
- We love it.
- Yep.
754
00:41:42,959 --> 00:41:46,797
No, no. Hell, no.
755
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,006
Hey, dude.
756
00:42:02,396 --> 00:42:04,815
Two months ago,
scottie pippen said he would never play
757
00:42:04,898 --> 00:42:07,609
for the Chicago Bulls again,
but then he softened his stance,
758
00:42:07,693 --> 00:42:10,153
saying he was looking fonnard
to returning to the team,
759
00:42:10,237 --> 00:42:12,864
so the question became
when would he come back?
760
00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:18,537
Change my mind about coming to play?
761
00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:19,996
Yeah.
762
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,500
I just... I knew that it was probably
gonna come down to
763
00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:27,212
me and the team trying to play hardball,
764
00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:29,673
and I would lose in that situation
765
00:42:29,756 --> 00:42:32,759
because they would
start to fine me probably,
766
00:42:32,843 --> 00:42:38,849
so, you know, I wasn't gonna
let them benefit in that way.
767
00:42:39,725 --> 00:42:41,935
The bottom line is, uh,
768
00:42:42,018 --> 00:42:46,148
I was willing to accept a trade
if they did it,
769
00:42:46,231 --> 00:42:48,650
and I knew they wasn't gonna do it.
770
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:51,945
After watching
35 games from the bench,
771
00:42:52,028 --> 00:42:54,573
the bulls forward suited up
at the united center ton/ght
772
00:42:54,656 --> 00:42:55,782
and took the court.
773
00:42:55,866 --> 00:42:59,035
Now, as for Dennis rodman,
check out the newest hairstyle.
774
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:03,206
Word is that those are 33s,
in tribute to p/ppen's return.
775
00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:06,918
Scottie p/ppen, he played 37 minutes,
and scored 72 points.
776
00:43:07,002 --> 00:43:09,796
P/ppen grabbing four rebounds,
dishing out five assists,
777
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,425
and the bulls have to feel uplifted
by having p/ppen back.
778
00:43:14,092 --> 00:43:15,719
When scottie wasn't there,
779
00:43:15,802 --> 00:43:18,930
Dennis loved the fact
that Michael needed him.
780
00:43:25,729 --> 00:43:27,439
He set that screen right there...
781
00:43:42,871 --> 00:43:43,955
You know, he was,
782
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,833
"hey, Michael, it's me and you.
You know, we got this."
783
00:43:47,501 --> 00:43:49,861
And then, when scottie came back,
that's when they lost him.
784
00:43:51,087 --> 00:43:54,257
When scottie came back
and we got the three amigos again,
785
00:43:54,341 --> 00:43:57,427
and I'm pretty much
the third wheel of the family.
786
00:43:58,261 --> 00:44:01,389
Rodman's descent became dramatic.
787
00:44:01,473 --> 00:44:06,603
You know, his drinking, his partying,
his connection with reality.
788
00:44:07,604 --> 00:44:09,499
The thing about this, too,
people don't understand,
789
00:44:09,523 --> 00:44:12,567
it's just not basketball
that we have to deal with on this team.
790
00:44:12,651 --> 00:44:16,988
It's not just...
It's the pressure of the bullshit.
791
00:44:17,489 --> 00:44:19,157
You know, I'll play the game for free,
792
00:44:19,241 --> 00:44:22,994
but you get paid for the bullshit
after you leave the floor.
793
00:44:23,745 --> 00:44:26,623
The public pressure, the media pressure.
794
00:44:27,123 --> 00:44:30,669
Get that out of my face.
I'm done, I'm done.
795
00:44:31,503 --> 00:44:33,088
I'm not talkin', man.
796
00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:34,965
No comment. How about that one?
797
00:44:39,678 --> 00:44:41,847
Basketball is simple,
it's a simple game,
798
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:45,225
but when you leave
this... this confide zone...
799
00:44:46,518 --> 00:44:48,562
It's hard. It's hard.
800
00:44:48,645 --> 00:44:51,731
I got to say, I never have to prove
anything to people in this country
801
00:44:51,815 --> 00:44:54,359
or in this business
because this business can kiss my ass.
802
00:44:54,442 --> 00:44:56,202
I don't give a damn
what they think about me.
803
00:44:57,654 --> 00:45:00,574
Everybody understood
Dennis' impact on the group,
804
00:45:00,657 --> 00:45:06,037
and we understood
that he had, uh, different needs
805
00:45:06,121 --> 00:45:07,914
in his personal life than we did.
806
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:19,259
While scottie was out,
Dennis was a model citizen
807
00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:23,430
to the point where it was
driving him fuckin' insane.
808
00:45:23,513 --> 00:45:26,850
So, when scottie came back,
809
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:28,894
Dennis wanted to take a vacation.
810
00:45:30,145 --> 00:45:31,873
I come to practice,
Phil calls me in and says,
811
00:45:31,897 --> 00:45:34,017
โlook, you know,
Dennis wants to tell you something. โ
812
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,836
When Dennis wants to tell me something,
813
00:45:36,860 --> 00:45:38,980
I knew it's not something
that I fuckin' want to hear.
814
00:45:40,947 --> 00:45:44,242
So Dennis says, "I need a vacation."
815
00:45:44,326 --> 00:45:47,120
And I look at Phil, say,
"Phil, what do you mean, a vacation?"
816
00:45:47,203 --> 00:45:49,765
He says, "he needs a vacation.
He needs some time off to let loose."
817
00:45:49,789 --> 00:45:52,626
I said, โlook, Phil,
let me tell you something, man.
818
00:45:52,709 --> 00:45:55,170
If anybody need a fuckin' vacation,
I need a vacation."
819
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:58,423
He says... we look at Dennis, said,
"Dennis, what are you gonna do?"
820
00:45:59,215 --> 00:46:00,884
He says, โwell, I need to go to Vegas. โ
821
00:46:04,262 --> 00:46:07,307
"Phil, if you let this dude
go to vacation, we're not gonna see him.
822
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:09,809
You let him go to Vegas,
we definitely not gonna see him."
823
00:46:10,769 --> 00:46:12,187
So he looks at Dennis and says,
824
00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:15,732
"Dennis, well,
can your vacation be like 48 hours?"
825
00:46:16,274 --> 00:46:18,318
And Dennis is like,
"I got no other choice.
826
00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:21,112
I'll take whatever you can give me,
I'll take the 48 hours."
827
00:46:21,196 --> 00:46:24,157
โForty-e/ght hours.
You got 48 hours, Dennis. โ
828
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:25,742
And I'm looking at Phil like,
829
00:46:25,825 --> 00:46:27,744
"you ain't gonna get that dude
back in 48 hours.
830
00:46:27,827 --> 00:46:29,788
I don't care what you say. He's done."
831
00:46:29,871 --> 00:46:31,623
โOka y, 48 hours. โ
832
00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:35,919
He leaves that room,
goes straight to the airport.
833
00:46:36,002 --> 00:46:38,922
Boom, we don't hear or see Dennis
for 48 hours.
834
00:46:40,924 --> 00:46:42,175
I remember that.
835
00:46:42,258 --> 00:46:45,178
I went to fuckin' Vegas.
836
00:46:52,769 --> 00:46:57,899
Dennis was bizarre,
but I think what made it work
837
00:46:57,983 --> 00:47:01,945
was Phil and Michael's
understanding that,
838
00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:05,824
to get the most out of him on the court,
you had to give him some rope.
839
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:08,827
And they gave him a lot of rope.
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