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[suspenseful music]
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- The murders of 17 women,
prostitutes and topless dancers,
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the biggest mass murder case
in Alaskas history.
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- This woman did
not follow the plan.
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- She broke away, he chased her.
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[thrilling music]
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- He's stalking women,
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chasing women,
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he's killing women.
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He can't stop himself.
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- There is a monster
walking amongst us.
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[eerie music]
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- He had to have
that godlike feeling.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Eklutna Lake nestled
in the mountains,
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fed by glacial runoff.
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It's a drop dead gorgeous place.
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Very remote.
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- It's just one of those
places that nobody goes to
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unless they have
a need to go there.
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- Two power line workers
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were up in that
Eklutna road region
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And they found skeletal remains.
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Troopers went up there
and examined the scene
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and they found skeletal
remains and clothing,
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jewelry, some high
top red boots,
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but nothing to help
them really identify
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exactly who she was.
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Anytime you find skeletal
remains, there's an autopsy.
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You lay out the bones,
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and a forensic expert
will look at those bones
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and try and give
you a better picture
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of who this victim was.
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In this case, she was
most likely a young girl,
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maybe late teens.
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This particular female victim
was stabbed in the back.
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Then they started doing
facial reconstruction
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and she got the
name Eklutna Annie.
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No disrespect but just
some way to identify her.
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Looking at the tall red boots
and the type of clothing,
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investigators thought
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that perhaps this
victim was a prostitute.
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When a sex worker's murdered.
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It makes all sorts of
problems for investigators.
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They don't use their real names.
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They don't have contact
with their families.
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Yeah, it was really
hard back then.
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We didn't have the
internet to help us.
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It was a very poor system,
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but it was the
only system we had.
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In the mid 70s, when the
pipeline started to build up,
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there was an influx of
criminals and prostitutes.
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- In the 70s,
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Anchorage went from 60,000
people to about 200,000
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in just that short
length of time.
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A lot of strip joints
sprung up, a lot of bars,
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all to capture that almighty
dollar from the pipeline.
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- I arrived in 77.
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I just wanted to get away
from the situation I was in.
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So I went to a strip joint.
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Got up on the stage,
started to dance.
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The crowd went crazy.
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To tell you the truth,
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I love getting up on that stage.
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I love hearing the
men whoop hurray.
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It seemed like all of us
girls had a connection.
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I mean, if you're gonna go to
a wilderness country like that
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and not know anybody,
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you're definitely
running from something.
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[men hooting]
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They had no idea that they
were running into more danger
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than they did at home.
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[crowd cheering]
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[somber music]
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[child laughs]
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- Robert Hansen lived
in Pocahontas in
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his youth as did I.
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It was a great place to grow up,
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but he had to get up and
help his father bake things
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at a fairly young age.
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- Because his dad was a baker,
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Bob was gonna be a baker,
whether he wanted to or not.
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But Bob wasn't interested
in becoming a baker.
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Baker's hours are early.
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You need to get into
the bakery at midnight.
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He's working all night,
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and his father was
a harsh task master.
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And his father was like,
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"This is how I learned,
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I'm going to treat you the
same way I was treated."
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- Hansen struggled to
internalize the role
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that was being impressed
upon him by his father.
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His father dreamed of a son
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who was more strapping,
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did what he was told,
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but he struggled in every
way to fit that role.
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There were a lot
of things about him
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that made him seem inadequate.
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He spoke with a stammer,
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he was short of stature,
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And found little support
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in the relationship
with his mother.
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- There was resentment
that build up.
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He was forced to
get up and bake
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and then he was
forced to go to class,
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and he was unhappy
throughout the whole process.
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- He was a very quiet person,
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a little odd,
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but if you got him onto subjects
like hunting or fishing,
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he could be somewhat engaging.
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Or guns. He knew
a lot about guns.
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When I hunted with
him a couple of times,
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he always would get more
birds than the rest of us.
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And he was proud of that fact.
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- So for the first time, he's
found something he's good at
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and feels like a man.
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- After almost a year,
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troopers couldn't identify
any missing persons
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that matched up with the remains
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that they found up
off Eklutna Road.
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The troopers exhausted all
possible leads on that case.
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And like any other case like
that, it just, it goes cold.
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Sherry Morrow was a young
dancer at the Wild Cherry,
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a strip joint in Anchorage.
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- Me and Sherry Morrow, we
were working at the strip club.
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She was a friend of mine.
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Sherry wasn't built
for this kind of work.
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She was a sweet girl.
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One night,
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one of our customers
started to talk about
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how he was a modeling agent
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and how he wanted to
take pictures of us,
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and that he'd pay us $500.
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The way he was talking,
I got on edge about it.
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So I whispered to Sherry,
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"There's something about
this guy that's not right."
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She goes, "Brenda, I have to go.
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I need the money."
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Well, she went.
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I knew she did
not go on her own.
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He took her.
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I was very scared for her.
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Very scared.
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Because the boogieman
really does exist.
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And he's walking amongst us.
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[eerie music]
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After Sherry went missing,
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Sherry's boyfriend
went to the police.
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He was very desperate
to find her.
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I cried my eyes out because
that's all I could do is cry.
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After the first body was found,
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which was the
beginning of it all.
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I was very scared for her.
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And then more and more girls
started coming up missing.
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- Tami was involved in dancing,
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tap dancing, stage dancing.
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She was never
afraid of anything.
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She just would go.
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Something sounded like
fun, let's just go do it.
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Tami participated in
an amateur contest
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in a club just north of Seattle.
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And she won.
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And then immediately after,
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she was contacted to go
dance in the clubs in Alaska.
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She went to Anchorage in 1981
before her 20th birthday.
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Tami and my mom would
talk every week.
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And then a couple
of weeks went by
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and my mom hadn't spoken to her.
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We have no idea where she's at.
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And we were very worried.
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[suspenseful music]
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The police's response
was basically,
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"Okay, we'll take
the information.
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But women come to Anchorage
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because they don't
want to be found.
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At this point, I know that
my sister's in danger.
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[eerie music]
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- As Hansen's growing up
and becoming a teenager,
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he develops terrible acne.
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He also was a stutterer.
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So now, even if he wanted
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to try to have any kind
of social relationship
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and in particular with
girls, they reject him.
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- Bob felt that maybe that
women were mean to him
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when they were
just ignoring him.
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[chilling music]
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- Hansen was an individual
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who probably from birth
had a certain brain style
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that predisposed him
to poor judgment,
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lack of empathy.
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And then what happens is
difficult adverse experiences
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that anybody would experience,
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are interpreted a different way
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because they're seen
through the lens of slights
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and being judged negatively
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or not being seen as
adequate or so forth.
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And I think that set the stage
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for all kinds of later
aggression or criminal behavior.
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- He had this thing that we've
seen in some of these people
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who call themselves incels.
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He wanted a particular type of
girl to be interested in him,
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the ones at the top
of the social stratum
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and they rejected him.
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And so he developed
revenge fantasies.
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[eerie music]
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- My mom contacted the
Anchorage police again
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and told them that she had not
heard from her daughter,
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and that she was
concerned for her safety.
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- I started the buddy system
after Sherry went missing.
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And then the second girl, Tami,
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that's when the managers of
the clubs made it a thing.
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They would not let
you leave alone.
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- A body was found in a shallow
grave off the Knik River.
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And she was identified
through dental records
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as the missing Sherry Morrow.
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[suspenseful music]
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Sherry had been shot
in the back three times
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and cartridge cases were found
in the vicinity by troopers.
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223-caliber cartridge cases.
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Now, we know that Eklutna
Annie was stabbed in the back.
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But just because another
victim is not stabbed,
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that they're shot instead,
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doesn't mean that it's
not by the same murderer.
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But the troopers couldn't
draw the connection
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to Eklutna Annie.
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And we really didn't know
how to find the killer.
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There just wasn't enough leads.
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[thrilling music]
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- It's early morning,
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a truck driver is
driving up 5th Avenue,
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and suddenly, there is a woman
in the middle of the street
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trying to get him to stop.
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She's in handcuffs.
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There's a guy who's chasing
after her with a gun.
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[suspenseful music]
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A truck driver is
on his way to work.
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And suddenly, there is a woman.
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She's barefoot, in
tears and handcuffs.
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So he brings her to
the police department.
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And the chief proceeds
to tell the story.
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[eerie music]
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- The first time I met him
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was when I moved into
my home on E 6th.
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He was my neighbor.
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Bob was a baker.
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His wife Darla was a teacher
at a Christian school.
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They eventually
had two children.
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- She's this gentle person
who has time for Bob,
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who is probably the first person
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who's ever really
listened to him.
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- Getting a woman like
Darla to love him.
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Although that's an achievement
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that he might have thought
would never have happened,
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she's not the type of
woman he was after.
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- Bob was very excitable.
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If you're talking about
something he really loves,
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like hunting,
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you could get him going.
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Some time, if he
got real excited,
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a little saliva would come
out the edge of his mouth.
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Bob loved the challenge.
262
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It was the skill required
to do the sneaking up part,
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do the stalking,
264
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and get close enough where
you can make the kill shot.
265
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And once you do that,
trust me, it's a thrill.
266
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It's a rush.
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From all outward appearances,
he was a great guy.
268
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But he was a Jekyll and Hyde
kind of person evidently.
269
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[somber music]
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- What you're
beginning to see here
271
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is the roots of the
split in the personality.
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A fragmentation of the self,
273
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where he is harboring
all this kind of stuff
274
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that he wants to do to women.
275
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Equating human beings to the
beasts that they hunt down
276
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in order to right some of
these wrongs from his childhood
277
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and take revenge so
that you can say,
278
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"See what I really am?
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I'm actually very powerful
280
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underneath this veneer of
weakness and insecurity."
281
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[somber music]
282
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- Hanson had a little shack.
283
00:23:32,802 --> 00:23:36,589
- It's a remote place not
too far out of the city.
284
00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:39,418
He could take off
from Merrill Field
285
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where he kept his airplane.
286
00:23:41,898 --> 00:23:43,770
So he unchained Cindy Paulson
287
00:23:43,857 --> 00:23:46,599
and took her in his car
out to Merrill Field.
288
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- He is going back and forth
289
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between the trunk and the plane.
290
00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:58,262
And she notices that the
door is a little bit ajar.
291
00:24:22,765 --> 00:24:26,247
- They learned that the
person who owns the plane
292
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is a man named Bob Hansen.
293
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Cindy Paulson,
294
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she remembers
many, many details.
295
00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:50,097
And when they went back
to the house, it matched.
296
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- Unfortunately
Hansen did have alibis
297
00:24:54,449 --> 00:24:57,060
and that's pretty
much what killed
298
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the Anchorage police
department's case right there.
299
00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:02,065
The investigator
supervisor said,
300
00:25:02,152 --> 00:25:03,502
"That's it. No case."
301
00:25:16,863 --> 00:25:18,647
- Authorities believe
the body of a woman
302
00:25:18,778 --> 00:25:21,389
found near the Knik
River was Paula Goulding.
303
00:25:21,476 --> 00:25:23,347
Her friends says she
was going to meet a man
304
00:25:23,434 --> 00:25:26,046
who was going to pay
her hundreds of dollars.
305
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:29,702
- Paula Goulding's body was
found in a shallow grave,
306
00:25:29,832 --> 00:25:32,879
not too far from where Sherry
Morrow's body had been found.
307
00:25:34,663 --> 00:25:37,840
Just like Sherry, this victim
was also shot in the back.
308
00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:42,889
Law enforcement found a
fired 223 cartridge case.
309
00:25:44,499 --> 00:25:47,023
So troopers now have two cases
310
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that look to be very clearly
perpetrated by the same killer.
311
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It's horrifying.
312
00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:56,555
Because this could be, in fact,
a serial murderer.
313
00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:03,431
[suspenseful music]
314
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- This is the east end
of downtown Anchorage.
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Many bars, several strip joints.
316
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,790
Now a number of unsolved
disappearances of women,
317
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most of whom were
topless dancers.
318
00:26:17,097 --> 00:26:19,534
- [Reporter] Sherry Morrow
was a topless dancer.
319
00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:22,319
Paula Goulding was
also a topless dancer.
320
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Police say there are at
least four other women
321
00:26:24,539 --> 00:26:27,498
who are missing under
similar circumstances.
322
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There are striking similarities
between these four women
323
00:26:30,197 --> 00:26:31,459
and the two who were killed.
324
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:34,027
They were all dancers
or prostitutes.
325
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All were new in town.
326
00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:39,032
- Everybody's taking a
closer look at disappearances
327
00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:40,686
in the Anchorage area
328
00:26:40,773 --> 00:26:42,601
and trying to connect them.
329
00:26:42,731 --> 00:26:46,474
Eventually, two APD detectives
330
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:49,390
came over to
troopers headquarters
331
00:26:49,477 --> 00:26:52,611
and directed their attention
to this guy named Robert Hansen
332
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and the Cindy Paulson case.
333
00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:58,921
And then maybe the connection
334
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between the other missing girls.
335
00:27:01,707 --> 00:27:03,970
And then all of a sudden the
lights started to come on.
336
00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:38,308
- Hansen's keeping baker's
hours, he's up late.
337
00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:43,096
And in Anchorage,
there's sex for sale.
338
00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:46,665
He meets this woman
at the Nevada Cafe.
339
00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:58,633
- He comes up to her
with a gun and says,
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00:28:05,379 --> 00:28:07,337
- He starts to drive South.
341
00:28:07,424 --> 00:28:11,167
He stops to put
restraints on her.
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00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:13,692
So they rent a motel,
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and he sexually assaults
her in the motel room.
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- Usually, there is some event
345
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:24,224
that pushes the
individual over the edge
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00:28:24,311 --> 00:28:26,705
from fantasy into action.
347
00:28:26,835 --> 00:28:28,358
In the life of Robert Hansen,
348
00:28:28,489 --> 00:28:31,231
it's difficult to tell what
that factor might have been.
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00:28:31,361 --> 00:28:32,885
So one gets the
sense of a person
350
00:28:32,972 --> 00:28:36,889
that was increasingly
needing a fix,
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where first we have
the double life
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and interacting
with sex workers,
353
00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,113
and then ultimately
feeling comfortable enough
354
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,375
to play out the fantasies.
355
00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:28,070
- Now here we are sitting around
356
00:29:28,201 --> 00:29:30,333
believing that
Hansen did this.
357
00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:31,857
What do you do?
358
00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:34,033
You need to search his house.
359
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,382
We needed a search warrant.
360
00:29:35,469 --> 00:29:38,211
But in order to get
that search warrant,
361
00:29:38,298 --> 00:29:40,822
you have to come up
with probable cause.
362
00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:46,480
So we had to refreshen evidence
in order to impress a judge
363
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:47,960
and grant us a search warrant.
364
00:30:04,106 --> 00:30:06,979
The decision is made
to interrogate him
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00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:09,155
on the same day that we
served that search warrant
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on his home.
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00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:09,737
[suspenseful music]
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00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,265
- Two investigators came in
369
00:31:16,352 --> 00:31:18,659
to do the interrogation
of Hansen,
370
00:31:18,746 --> 00:31:21,531
and the end result is
that he didn't talk.
371
00:31:22,968 --> 00:31:25,579
So everyone converged
on his house,
372
00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:26,885
served the search warrant,
373
00:31:26,972 --> 00:31:28,582
and went inside and
started searching.
374
00:31:30,758 --> 00:31:34,588
I found a number of
aircraft sectional maps.
375
00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:36,068
I picked out the one that he had
376
00:31:36,155 --> 00:31:39,332
for the Anchorage Bowl area,
377
00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:43,379
including the Kenai and
out on the Eklutna River.
378
00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:46,774
And I noticed a number of Xs.
379
00:31:50,038 --> 00:31:52,911
And I knew that some of
these were in the areas
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where they had found bodies.
381
00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:59,265
- Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding,
382
00:31:59,352 --> 00:32:03,399
were very close to marks that
were already on this map.
383
00:32:03,486 --> 00:32:07,142
And that was the biggest
oh-my-god moment.
384
00:32:07,273 --> 00:32:11,364
Because now you have
21 marks on that map
385
00:32:11,451 --> 00:32:13,932
and there can be bodies
at every single one.
386
00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:16,456
- It's big.
387
00:32:16,543 --> 00:32:19,415
We have now even more momentum,
388
00:32:19,502 --> 00:32:21,548
more belief that we
have the right guy
389
00:32:21,678 --> 00:32:24,159
and we're gonna get 'em for
killing all these women.
390
00:32:24,246 --> 00:32:26,118
The last place to search
391
00:32:26,248 --> 00:32:28,598
was up in that crawl
space in the roof.
392
00:32:28,685 --> 00:32:30,992
Two troopers went up in there.
393
00:32:31,123 --> 00:32:33,908
I just said, "Rip
up the insulation."
394
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:35,301
So they were doing that
395
00:32:35,388 --> 00:32:38,260
and choking and coughing
on the insulation dust
396
00:32:38,347 --> 00:32:40,654
until they found guns.
397
00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:45,311
One of which was
the Ruger Mini-14
398
00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:47,356
that Hansen eventually
was connected
399
00:32:47,443 --> 00:32:48,923
to the crime scenes with
400
00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:52,840
and identified him as
certainly the murderer.
401
00:33:12,555 --> 00:33:15,123
- The prosecutors
402
00:33:15,254 --> 00:33:19,171
get a phone call from
Bob Hansen's attorneys.
403
00:33:19,301 --> 00:33:23,653
And the phrase they use is he
wants to call clear the decks.
404
00:33:24,872 --> 00:33:26,178
He's going to confess.
405
00:34:25,106 --> 00:34:27,543
[eerie music]
406
00:34:28,588 --> 00:34:30,546
- At this stage in
Hansen's life.
407
00:34:30,677 --> 00:34:34,376
What we see is him performing
a modus operandi initially
408
00:34:34,463 --> 00:34:35,725
that looked an awful lot
409
00:34:35,812 --> 00:34:38,598
like we had been doing
for quite some time.
410
00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:40,078
He picked up a young woman.
411
00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:26,559
- This woman did
not follow the plan.
412
00:35:26,646 --> 00:35:29,127
She broke away and
ran away from Hansen.
413
00:35:39,398 --> 00:35:41,139
- There was something
exciting for him
414
00:35:41,269 --> 00:35:45,099
about the kind of danger and
the challenge in getting to her
415
00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:46,709
and then taking her down
416
00:35:46,796 --> 00:35:49,495
similar to the way he
had been hunting animals.
417
00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,703
[eerie music]
418
00:37:07,616 --> 00:37:12,230
- Based on what Hansen said
about killing this young woman,
419
00:37:13,187 --> 00:37:15,233
he crossed a line
out of desperation.
420
00:37:15,363 --> 00:37:17,235
And any kind of resistance,
421
00:37:17,322 --> 00:37:19,237
that just made him
wanna punish them more.
422
00:38:23,257 --> 00:38:25,955
- Robert Hansen is a well
known businessman in Alaska.
423
00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:26,913
Respectable.
424
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,523
Or so everyone thought.
425
00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:31,831
Yesterday, Hansen admitted
that he murdered 17 women.
426
00:38:31,918 --> 00:38:34,834
It's the biggest mass murder
case in Alaska's history.
427
00:38:37,227 --> 00:38:40,622
- I was watching national
news and there was Bob Hansen.
428
00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:42,320
And I thought,
429
00:38:42,407 --> 00:38:45,627
what the hell is Bob Hansen
doing on national news?
430
00:38:45,758 --> 00:38:47,368
And I turned it up and it said,
431
00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:49,152
"This is the greatest
mass murder
432
00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:51,198
in the
history of Alaska."
433
00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:53,026
Well, you could have knocked
me over with a feather.
434
00:38:53,113 --> 00:38:54,201
I had no idea.
435
00:38:55,985 --> 00:38:57,335
- That guy was in my house.
436
00:38:59,815 --> 00:39:00,686
At my dinner table.
437
00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:09,521
Just sends a chill up my back.
438
00:39:30,106 --> 00:39:34,284
- What we know is that he
took them into remote places.
439
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,852
Often they were shot in the back
440
00:39:36,939 --> 00:39:40,160
indicating that he
either let them go,
441
00:39:40,290 --> 00:39:41,379
or if they had run.
442
00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:45,078
He's stalking women,
443
00:39:45,165 --> 00:39:47,080
he's chasing women,
444
00:39:47,167 --> 00:39:48,255
he's killing women.
445
00:39:49,474 --> 00:39:51,563
And he can't stop himself.
446
00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:56,742
- It was a celebration
in my heart
447
00:39:56,829 --> 00:39:58,221
that they finally got him.
448
00:39:59,788 --> 00:40:02,661
How could he kill women?
449
00:40:02,748 --> 00:40:06,969
I couldn't understand how a
man could do this to a woman,
450
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,101
to a girl.
451
00:40:11,191 --> 00:40:12,322
- You have an individual
452
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,324
with a basically psychopathic,
453
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,283
narcissistic
personality structure
454
00:40:18,067 --> 00:40:20,809
who has had a complicated
relationship with his father,
455
00:40:20,896 --> 00:40:23,421
who left him feeling
emasculated.
456
00:40:24,813 --> 00:40:27,120
This, coupled with
the difficulties of
457
00:40:27,207 --> 00:40:31,037
adolescence for him
created a perfect storm
458
00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:34,997
which ultimately led to
compensating for those feelings
459
00:40:35,128 --> 00:40:37,696
through acts of
domination control
460
00:40:37,783 --> 00:40:39,611
over the people he felt
were rejecting him.
461
00:40:41,177 --> 00:40:44,050
When everything got
rocked out of control
462
00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,443
by the first victim,
463
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:48,750
putting up a fight was
very, very exciting
464
00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:52,275
because he had to have
that godlike feeling
465
00:40:52,406 --> 00:40:54,756
of I can control even this.
466
00:40:57,237 --> 00:41:00,458
Hansen unexpectedly
discovered greater thrill
467
00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:01,328
through murder,
468
00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:07,726
to what is ultimately going to
be the culmination of arousal
469
00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:10,380
in the hunting and the
killing of the victim.
470
00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:12,948
[eerie music]
471
00:41:32,098 --> 00:41:36,494
- In 2020, they produce new
rendering of Eklutna Annie.
472
00:41:37,886 --> 00:41:39,627
And there's still hope
to identify the victim.
473
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:42,500
I hope that someday
they solve that,
474
00:41:44,284 --> 00:41:47,026
but there's a lot of families
that still don't have closure.
475
00:41:49,985 --> 00:41:51,509
- I lost my big
sister when I was 17.
476
00:41:55,295 --> 00:42:00,213
I miss Tami most just having
that person in your life,
477
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:02,911
spending your life your
whole time, your whole life.
478
00:42:02,998 --> 00:42:03,521
You know.
479
00:42:05,784 --> 00:42:08,264
She wasn't there when I
graduated high school.
480
00:42:08,351 --> 00:42:09,875
She wasn't there
when I fell in love.
481
00:42:11,833 --> 00:42:13,226
She wasn't there for my wedding.
482
00:42:15,271 --> 00:42:18,231
I missed her having kids,
483
00:42:18,361 --> 00:42:20,059
me being an uncle to her kids.
484
00:42:23,062 --> 00:42:24,237
Missed having a big sister.
485
00:42:29,111 --> 00:42:31,853
- I think why I
couldn't read him.
486
00:42:33,725 --> 00:42:36,249
And that's the only guy I ever
know that I couldn't read.
487
00:42:41,907 --> 00:42:42,821
Had I been able to read him,
488
00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:46,694
maybe I could have stopped him
489
00:42:46,781 --> 00:42:48,696
a lot earlier than he
finally got stopped.
490
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,571
And maybe saved
some of those girls.
491
00:42:59,011 --> 00:43:00,447
Such a waste of young lives.
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