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Two ten-year-old girls
went missing yesterday evening

in Soham, Cambridgeshire. It's Holly
and Jessica from my class.

They came by our house.
I-I-I spoke to them.

I'll say I was here.

You were here. I was in the bath.

A 28-year-old man
and a 25-year-old woman

have been taken to help the police
with our enquiries.

Maxine Carr, I am arresting you on
suspicion of abduction and murder.

No, no!

They're not dead, though.
How do you know if they're dead?

Oh, God! Oh, my God.

Oh! Police!

Two bodies have been found.

I want to change my statement.

I said I was in Soham
that weekend...

..but I wasn't. I was in Grimsby.

He told me last night, "If they
arrest you, tell the truth."

So I am now,
and I am sorry I did lie,

but only to stop Ian being accused
when he's done nothing, and...

And it's better for you to go
and find the real person.

The real person?

Who's done it.

This'll be read out in front
of the church.

"I suggest that we pause
for a moment of silence

"in memory of these
two little girls.

"The heartfelt sympathy
of the whole police service

"goes out to Holly's parents
and brother

"and to Jessica's parents
and sisters at this ghastly time.

"A man and a woman are under arrest
for their murder."

Has Ian ever expressed interest
in children?

Yeah.

We wanna start a family.

I mean a sexual interest.

No, that's disgusting.

He says them people want shooting
or castrating,

like what everyone says.

See, I know him, better than anyone,
better even than his mum.

And he couldn't have done
what you're saying he's done

and then carry on as normal.

He couldn't...unless you helped him.

I didn't bloody help him.

You did. You admit it.

You lied for him.
Because I know he's innocent.

You cleaned his house.

It's my flaming house!
I'm the cleaner!

What, am I not allowed to clean
my own house now?

And even now Sadie's in season,
you know, spreading everywhere.

What, just leave it?

Well, you think that
I'd get on my hands and knees

and scrub something
that I knew had happened?

Well, would you?

No, I bloody wouldn't.

I haven't got anything at all
to do with this

and he ain't got nowt either.

We can tie him to
the girls' clothes.

We found their bodies dumped
in a ditch

where we now know
he goes plane-spotting.

It's not nice to think of children
you know, that you've hugged.

It wasn't him.

Come on, Maxine.
You're wearing blinkers.

I'm not wearing blinkers.
You are. I'm not!

Well, we have to tell you that
he has now been charged

formally charged, with
the two murders of Holly Wells

and Jessica Chapman.

Mm-mm.

No!

No!

He can't have.

He can't have!

Maxine, over here!

Maxine Ann Carr,
you have been charged

with conspiring to pervert
the course of justice

by lying about your whereabouts
on August 4th

and August 5th of this year.

You will be remanded in custody
at Holloway Prison until your trial.

"How has this happened?"

This is the question and thought
that one can see

on all the faces in Soham.

It is not just the locals
who are wondering this

but the many hundreds of visitors
who have travelled

from far and wide to the small
Cambridgeshire village

to sign books of condolence.

The long queue that forms
outside St Andrews Church

is a quiet and sombre procession.

Hey. Hey.You seen all the flowers
at the church?

Yeah, amazing.
They just keep coming, don't they?

It's like Diana.

National grief and rage.

Yeah.

You see the Attorney General's
warning?Yeah.

"Condemn Huntley or Carr in print
and you jeopardise the trial."

Outrageous! Protect press freedom.

What, to publish,
"My kinky night with Maxine"?

Get the feeling you want
to defend her.

What, like a damsel in distress?

No, no, I just...

I don't wanna see her get torn
limb from limb.

She's not the one who's been charged
with murder.

Mm.

Well, Soham will be glad
to see us gone.Mm.

You off back to London?

Maybe one more trip up to Grimsby.

OK, well, maybe see you next year
at the trial.

Yeah. Hey, before you go,
if you were me,

how would you approach
the bereaved families?

I wouldn't.People want to hear
their story.

And so, reluctant as you are
to intrude on private grief...

I can offer big money.

Sorry. Wish I could help you.

No, you don't.

Maxine! Hey!
We're going to get you!

You hurt kids,
we hurt you.

Ian should be standing up
for you.

Ian wasn't even at the court.
He's not well enough, mentally.

Oh, so he's left you
to carry the can.

It's not his fault, Mum!
He's traumatised.

And no wonder - being blamed
for something he's never done.

Right.

His worst nightmare come true.

Come on, Shirley!

Let's have an interview!

My neighbour's told the police

she saw you and Ian looking in the
boot of his car and you were crying.

And there's reporters knocking,
day and night.

Maxine? Maxine?

So she saw me crying.

It's not a crime to cry.

No, but the question arises,
"Why were you crying?"

Are we to believe that
you never suspected

Ian could have killed
Holly and Jessica?

Correct.

Not for a second.
Not in a million years.

And now?

He's being framed.

Someone else put their clothes in
that hangar and them in that ditch.

Well, I have to tell you
that's a theory

a jury may find hard to believe.
He didn't kill them.

OK. What you will say is that
all you know,

the only thing he told you,
is what he told everybody else.

He talked to the girls
outside the house

and then they walked away.

Correct.

Ely Cathedral has been
a site of prayer

stretching back many centuries.

Today, it was a place of mourning
for the people of Soham.

Hundreds travelled from
the small village

to pay their respects
and share their grief.

They were joined on the journey
by two families,

their fellow townsfolk,

two families who have lost
beloved daughters

in the inexplicable tragedy.

"Dear Ian, I think about
marrying you every day.

"I love you, Ian,
and I miss you with my whole heart.

"Your letters are what are
keeping me going in here.

"Soon, we'll be together again,
my love."

Huntley's been transferred to prison
and declared fit to stand trial.

Oh, and by the way,
his phone records show

he was trying to cheat on Carr
that weekend but had no luck.

Right. She won't like that.

How are we doing putting the girls
in the house?

Working on forensics, but it's been
so thoroughly cleaned.

By the immaculate Miss Carr.

Who worked franticly to remove
all traces while claiming, like him,

the girls never went inside.

We need to refute that.
We need them in there.

"Dear Ian, why are you
not responding to my letters?

"Is it true what my solicitor
told me?

"Were you trying to see
another woman on Saturday night
when I was in Grimsby?"

Thank you. That was very nice.

"After everything I've done,
it's not fair."

I'm worried, Lynda.

It's been two months.
Is he getting my letters?

I'll ask him
when I see him, darling.

I know it's hard.

So, that weekend...

..was it the Monday he called you
to discuss lying?

Yeah, he said he wanted me
to come home.

He says, "There's kids gone
missing," and the thing is...

The thing is?

The bad thing is...

..they came in our house.

They came in the house?
Yeah, they did.

One of them had a nosebleed.

You know I've had blackouts.

But I remember now why
they came into the house.

I... I don't know
if Maxine told you that.

No. No, she... She didn't, lovey.

One of them had a nosebleed.

But on the CCTV thing
on the telly...

..they're leaving the sports Centre
just before getting to you

and none of them
have a nosebleed then.

Well, no, that's because it started

when she was talking to me
about Maxine.

And they say they found fibres
from the football shirts

in the boot of my car.
That's because the girls

sat on the edge of it when
I went indoors to get tissue.

So the boot was open?

Yeah. And the bleeding didn't stop
and I said, "Come in."

I haven't done this, Mum.

Cos I remember them
leaving my house.

Well, if you're adamant on that...
I am adamant.

I am 100% remembering
them girls leaving my house.

And would I be physically capable

of restraining two healthy
young girls?

Yeah, it's not like
you're a 15st guy.

Well, I am 12st and fit.

But, yeah, question is,
was someone following them?

Don't look at me like that.

What I need...

What I need from you lot is some
bloody faith and confidence in me.

I am telling you the truth, Mum,
as best I can, what I remember.

I don't ever want you to think
that I might have done this -

because I haven't.
I could never hurt anybody.

I never have, I never will.

Finally, I am telling you this,
about them coming into the house.

I weren't gonna, but I felt...

..that's the risk I had to take
just to put your mind at rest.

Thank you.

Don't say anything,
Mum. It will give the police time

to counteract everything I'm saying
and build the case against me.

The girls are in the house.

The papers are calling it
a suicide attempt?

"She's guilty and she can't live
with it."

It's my eating disorder,
I can't help it!

Well, yes, there should be
some...sympathy.

I'm like Princess Diana.

So, things have changed
a little bit.

The prosecution have tape recordings
of you talking to Ian's mother Lynda

over the phone.

What? That can't be legal.

Recording a private conversation?
That's shocking.

Well, it is legal, I'm afraid,

and they have you admitting to
knowing the girls were in the house.

So, as well as conspiring to pervert
the course of justice,

you're also being charged with
assisting an offender.

But I haven't assisted an offender.

You cleaned the house,

hid the traces of two dead
young girls, girls you knew,

making you in the eyes of many
as bad as him, or even worse.

He's not bad.
They went in the house.

They went out again,
on their merry way.

Really? Because if they didn't...
They did.

..your life together is over.

Acknowledge he's done what he's done
and distance yourself from him

and you can still survive.
Ian's not a...

He's not interested in young girls.

He's got no whatsit -
no previous, no history.

That's not true.

What I'm about to tell you can't
be used in court against him.

Enquiries through Humberside Police
and social services

are revealing several cases
against him involving sex

with underage girls
whilst in his 20s.

These are girls he groomed,
one as young as 13,

and allegations of rape.

He took a girl for a walk
in an orchard,

where she says he sexually assaulted
her, when he was 24...

..and she was 11.

Let people see - he's the monster,
not you.

I think I've made
a huge mistake, Mum.

I thought he was the best
thing that ever happened to me.

Tell anyone who asks it's over.

She wrote to the prison governor.
It was read out to me -

"I no longer wish to have any
communication with Mr Ian Huntley."

Oh, Ian, that's all you need.

Yeah.

What a fucking bitch.

So we now have fibre transfers
to and from the football shirts.

And thanks to Pat, pollen from the
deposition site on Huntley's shoes,

car footwells and petrol can.

Plus, chalk from the track
caught under the car.

And the fact that he changed
all four tyres on the Monday,

that'll speak to the jury.

I'll share duties with Karim
in court. What?

Well, how did he do it?
He's on suicide watch.

Huntley's taken an overdose.

He sees this as his only option,

testament to the work
we're all doing.

So we keep doing it
and pray he pulls through.

He can't escape justice.

It's a short journey
for Huntley from hospital

back to Woodhill Prison, where he
will again be put on suicide watch.

He will spend the next number
of days and nights

in the hospital wing.

The Home Secretary has demanded that
the Prison Service...

It's all over the news.

Have you seen it?
Oh, love, it's terrible.

Typical him, Mum.

Trying to take the easy way out,
leaving me to carry the can.

Too bad, Ian.

Didn't work.

Tough fucking luck.

I'll see you in court.

Thanks for meeting me.
Still waiting for that scoop?

Eve of the trial, emotions running
high, maybe a chink opens up.

And then you pounce, yeah?

That's my job.

The judge rejected
the defence claim.

They've already been
convicted by the media.

But he still criticised them.

Them?

Us.

So the editors just ignore
the sub judice laws, do they?

No, not totally.

And all this stuff coming out now
about Huntley's past in Humberside,

we're sitting on it
until after the trial.

Mm. The authorities
are going to get roasted.

They weren't communicating.

Police, social services, schools.

How did he get a job as a school
caretaker with his history?

No actual convictions.

There was one though,
for burglary.

I mean, that should have flagged up
and barred him from the job.

All those other complaints though.

I mean, all those girls.

Mm, I mean it needs
a public inquiry.

Needs a whole new system.

You're not coming down
to cover the trial?

I'm not allowed to. I'm a witness.

Of course. You met them.

Mm.I talked to his parents.

They showed me this Christmas card
Maxine sent them

after she dumped him.

"I shared my life, my bed
and all my dreams with that man.

"I have been living a lie."

Wow. Tragic heroine.

Rehearsal for the courtroom.

Now, a warning to media.

Report this trial dispassionately,

or jeopardise it.

Do not describe emotion.

The Crown may present
it's opening statement.

It may not be disputed
that Carr provided a false account

of Huntley's movements
that Sunday night,

but we have to prove
that she did so knowing,

or believing that he had a hand
in the killing of the girls.

She lied and covered up for him.

Forensically cleaned the house
of the man

who murdered two ten-year-old
girls.

The man who dumped and burned
their bodies in a ditch.

You say there was significant
press presence,

hundreds of reporters every day.

Did this put a strain on
the caretaker at the school?

He did seem stressed.

He said he felt harassed
by the press and...

..by the daily press conferences
the police were holding.

And one time asked me if
they could be held elsewhere.

And you appointed him?

Correct.

Would you say he struck you
as a very good candidate

when you appointed him?

Yes. He did.

And that's a decision
I live with every day.

That's all.

Thank you.

All done.

Love you. Love you.

How did Miss Carr seem
when you spoke to her?

Smiling.

Cheerful, friendly.

Eager to help.

And what about Mr Huntley?

He was very wary.

He refused to have his photo taken.

She was much more convincing.

Happy to pose with the card
Holly had made her.

So when she told me she was
in the house, in the bath,

when the girls came by...

..it was easy to believe her.

God, I can't do anything right.

She was too close to the kids.
They loved her too much. Ooh, sorry.

And that reporter, the press,
they sweet-talk you,

they manipulate you
to get what they want.

You know, they say I'm bad.
They're worse.

You're doing well in there.

Keeping calm. Used to it.

You know, be nice, look nice.
No-one likes you when you're mad.

So swallow it.

You should be prepared for
the discoveries of the bodies
and the pathologist's evidence.

It could be quite upsetting.
Should I not get upset?

No, it's fine to get upset.

Shows you care.

You the jury have been
provided with evidence packs?

Could you please refer to the
pathologists report by Dr Nat Carey?

As you have told the court,

the bodies exposed for so long were
too badly decomposed even for you,

an experienced pathologist
to determine the cause of death.

But the skulls and skeletons
revealed no signs

of blunt force trauma or stabbing.

Which leaves us with?

Something involving interference
with the mechanism of breathing.

Such as?

Strangulation or smothering.

And as for sexual assault?

Due to decomposition I cannot,
from the physical findings,

confirm or refute that possibility.

Thank you, Dr Cary.

Erm...

My Lord, my client would be
grateful for a very short break.

Very well, Mr Coward.

This is the last time
Mr Huntley will be permitted

to disrupt the court.

The court will reconvene
in 15 minutes.

Should possible causes of death
not include drowning?

Yes, it should be on the list.

Thank you.

I'm going to put to you
my client's account

of what actually happened
on 4th of August last year.

At the material time
Holly Wells had a nosebleed.

And because it wouldn't stop,

she and Jessica
and the defendant, Mr Huntley,

went up to the bathroom,

where the girls sat
on the edge of the bath

while he cooled pieces of toilet
paper under the tap in the basin

and handed them to Holly.

And on one of his turns, he slipped.

And it seems he may well have banged
into her and she went backwards.

He has no recollection of a bang,
but he does remember a splash.

When Holly went into the bath,

which had roughly
18 inches of water in it

because Mr Huntley was
going to wash the dog,

Jessica started screaming,
"You pushed her, you pushed her!"

He then turned towards Jessica
putting his hand, or hands out,

his memory is, over her mouth,
to stop her screaming.

He let her go
and she went to the ground.

He then lifted Holly
out of the bath...

..and looked for signs of breathing
and found none.

He turned his attention
towards Jessica,

looked for signs of breathing
and found none.

That is the whole account.

I don't believe a word of it.

As an experienced pathologist,
I find it wholly implausible

that Jessica could have been
smothered to death as described.

And as to the suggested
drowning of Holly,

I measured the bath overnight.

The overflow is 11 inches.

Even if that was blocked,

the depth you mentioned
of 18 is unrealistic.

And at a depth of barely a foot,

total immersion of the nose and
mouth through a passive accident

is very unlikely.

And the nose, we are told,
is bleeding.

And she is fully clothed.

So there would be blood in
the water soaking the clothes.

Even extremely diluted,
this would be detectable.

None was.

And why no rescue?

Accidental drownings in bathrooms
tend to be solitary affairs

because, by definition...

..human beings rescue one another.

What's he like? Trying to get
off murder with a story like that.

"It was an accident, it was
only..." What is it?Manslaughter.

The evidence suggests that if the
bodies had been less decomposed

it might be clearer what happened.

Some people may blame you for that

because your lies
delayed his arrest.

But his arrest
didn't lead to the bodies.

They were found by accident.

And he'd never have admitted
where they were, so...

Not as thick as I look.

I was knelt down on the doorstep,
brushing Sadie,

directly behind the car.

I heard two voices
and I stood up to look

and there was two girls
in football tops stood there.

They asked me how Miss Carr was
and I found that quite funny

because I weren't used to hearing
Maxine referred to in that way.

I noticed Holly
put her hand up to her face

and there was some blood on it
and under her nose.

I asked if she would
like some tissue.

To which she replied, "Yes, please".

So what did you do?

I said, "Plonk your bums on there
and I'll get you some."

Could you repeat that?

A lot of us didn't get that.

Yes, erm...

I said, "Plonk your bums on there."

Plonk your bums there?

Yes.

On the rim of my boot.

What did you do with Sadie?

Secured her in the
downstairs toilet.

You came out and gave
the tissue to Holly.

Did it do the trick?

Sorry?

Did it stop the bleeding?

No.

So what happened next?

It was threatening rain and if
anything it was getting worse.

So, I... I said, "Would you like
to come inside and put some
wet tissue on the nose?"

What did they say?

They said yes.

You returned home
after depositing the bodies.

Then what did you do?

Had several cigarettes.

And what were you thinking?

What have I done?

Have you ever told Maxine
what you've told us here today?

I wanted to.

But I couldn't.

You approached Holly's father,
Kevin Wells,

near the school
three days after she disappeared.

You said, "I'm sorry Kev,
I didn't know it was your daughter.

"I hope they come home soon".

What should we call that?

An apology? Inexcusable?

Yes.

Like this story you've come up with
to fit the evidence.

What does a ten-year-old girl do
when she's got a nosebleed

and is a few hundred yards
from home?

I can't speak for the mind
of ten-year-old girls.

Go into a stranger's house? Did you
tell them that Maxine was inside?

No. You knew, as school caretaker,

you were forbidden from having
schoolchildren in your house?

Yes. And yet you invited them in.

Yes.

You have been telling lies
from start to finish
in this case, haven't you?

You say you somehow
suffocated Jessica,

trying to stop her from screaming.

Screaming because you
were murdering Holly? No.

And when you accidentally knocked
her into the bath, why couldn't
you just reach out and helpher?

That would have been the normal...

In these circumstances
it is very rational
to know what you were doing.

In those circumstances
it is not so rational.

Believe me, I know.

You can get very angry,
can't you, Mr Huntley?

That's because you...

You have your opinion.

Did you lose your temper with one
of the girls that Sunday evening?

Did you become the assertive
individual that you became just now?

You lied to the journalists.

You lied to the police?

Yes, sir, I did.

You now admit you knew a lot.

The girls had been in the house,
which he'd cleaned.

The car, too.

There was bedding
in the washing machine.

He was the last person to see them
and he wanted you to lie.

And yet, you claim
you had no suspicions?

Suspicions he had
a woman round, maybe.

But no, not that.

You claim that all the guilt
should be his to bear

and you should go Scot-free?

I know exactly what I've done, sir.

And I cannot be blamed
for what that thing in the box

has done to me or those children.

It is noticeable, Miss Carr,
how much you embellished your lies

to the press and the police
to make them more convincing.

Not only were you in the house,
but you were in the bath

and "wished I had popped out
and had a chat with the girls".

I do wish though I had been there.

I'll be feeling very guilty, sir,

for a long, long time
that if I was there

I could have stopped them
from dying.

You were so obsessed by him

and so obsessed
with preserving your relationship

and your home and your future,

that you had to divert attention
away from him.

Only because I truly believed
he was innocent.

Mr Latham has suggested to you

that by that Tuesday evening,
the 6th,

you had worked it out
that the children were dead... No.

..and that Ian Huntley
was responsible. No.

Now, let's just examine that.

Did you sleep in the same bed as
Ian Huntley on that Tuesday night?

Yes.And all the following days?

Yeah.

Mm.

Would you have been in the same bed
if you believed for a moment

that he had killed those children?

I wouldn't be in the same house.

No further questions.

The court will take a break
and reconvene in 30 minutes.

You should fucking hang!

You bastard!

Given you admitted you
conspired with Ian to lie

and he's already pleaded guilty
to that charge,

I have to advise you as your counsel
that perhaps you should, too.

But I wasn't perverting
the course of justice.

I was trying to stop the police from
wrongly accusing him, I thought.

OK, but you do realise the jury
are likely to find you guilty?

Of that charge, yeah, OK.
If they do, they do.

But not assisting an offender,

not cleaning up after knowing he'd
killed the girls, because I didn't.

And I don't want to be damned
for what I never done.

Miss Carr, Maxine,

feels guilty every day,

wishing she had been there that day
and saved those children's lives.

Is it not now time to release her
from this man and his crimes?

If you think she has continued right
through her evidence to tell lies,

that she is not being frank
with you...

..you have to ask why?

Defendants rise.

How do you find the defendant,
Ian Kevin Huntley,

on the charge of the murder
of Jessica Chapman?

Guilty.

The murder of Holly Wells?Guilty.

How do you find the defendant,
Maxine Ann Carr,

on the charge of conspiracy
to pervert the course of justice?

Guilty.

How do you find the defendant,
Maxine Ann Carr,

on the charge of assisting
an offender in the case
of Jessica Chapman?

Not guilty.

In the case of Holly Wells?

Not guilty.

Forget her. She doesn't matter.

We will take a short adjournment

and sentencing will commence
tomorrow morning.

To the parents of Holly and Jessica,

your grief at the loss
of such bright

and life-enhancing daughters
cannot be imagined

and cannot be shared.

Those of us who have been
compelled to listen to

so dispiriting and merciless a tale

will have had some glimpse

of what you have suffered
and continue to suffer.

Our thoughts are with you all.

Hi, Principle Gilbert.

Just a few words,
now that the verdict's in?

No. Thank you.

How have the students
and community reacted to it?

The girls' siblings go to the
school. Can you comment

on how they're coping? The families
must still have questions.

I'd rather just get on with it.

Right, there we go.
That's everything.

I'll get it.

Brian Farmer's phone,
this is Millie.

Hi, Millie,
can I speak to your dad?

Here he is. Thanks.

For you. Thank you.

Hello.Hey, it's Jane. I'm in Soham.

But I don't, I don't feel...

Sorry. Hang on a sec.

Have you got everything?
Yep. Bye. Bye.

Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Don't stay up too late.

I will.

Sorry.

You don't feel what?

Right. I'm supposed to be knocking
on the parents' doors

to offer them a million quid
for their stories.

Well, it's not for me to tell you
what to do, is it?No.

But you know they don't want money.
I know, but...

They want their daughters back.

And they'll never know what
really happened to them.

Would you want to know if it
was your daughter?

The truth?

Yeah.

The whole truth? Every detail?

Yeah.

Just to be there with her.

Yeah.

Maxine?

I know it's you.

One question and
I'll leave you alone.

Did you know?

Did you know he'd killed them?

No comment.

Mum!