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It's been four hours since
David Koresh and his followers
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have refused
to release themselves to the FBI
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following a bloody shootout with ATF.
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Now, details are scarce,
but the question
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everyone seems to be asking,
"Just when will they come out?"
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The federal agents
came under heavy and sustained fire
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as they approached a ranch owned by...
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They're making us look like monsters.
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Calling us child abusers.
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Everyone's in the chapel wondering
why we're not going out.
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I need you to talk to 'em.
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Believed to have been collected
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by Branch Davidian cult members.
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Negotiations failed, Noesner.
They reneged on their deal.
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Let me handle this. I can have
the building cleared by lunch.
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Look. This isn't the first time
in the history of negotiations
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that someone reneged on a deal, okay?
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Our primary objective has to be
getting those kids out safely.
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Clearing the building comes second.
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They're screwing with us.
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Now's the time to apply more pressure.
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No, no, no. Let's not mistake getting
even for getting what we want.
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"Trickleflowgush."
That's my next strategy.
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If I can get a few people to trickle out,
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more will follow as it starts to flow
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and once Koresh sees
enough people leave,
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he won't be the last in line.
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It would undermine his authority.
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He'll lead the rest of them out himself,
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and the whole thing will be over.
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I just need a little time.
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Okay.
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But...
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a little show of force
might help get their attention.
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Okay.
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Over the years...
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you've looked to me to be your leader.
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To guide you on this journey.
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But I'm no leader.
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I'm a follower. Just like you.
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God has instructed me to stay here.
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And wait for His sign
before I go out there.
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But I can't ask you to do the same.
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And whoever wants to leave,
you're free to go.
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But those of thinking of going,
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I want you to ask yourself...
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why did you sacrifice
all the comforts you had
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to come here?
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Know it or not,
you came here to be tested.
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And this is a test.
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This is our withering.
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Our time to prove through suffering...
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that we are worthy
of the miracle that's to come.
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The kingdom of heaven is coming.
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And those of us that pass this test
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will be the worthy.
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And those of us that fail this test...
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well... you're gonna have
to answer to God.
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And I can't...
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David!
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You're burning up.
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I'll get him some water.
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Which one's my dad?
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Hey. You probably shouldn't be in here.
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You know that old myrtle tree outside?
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- The one out front?
- Yeah.
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My dad and I planted it when I was five.
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He loved that old tree.
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He always wanted to be buried
next to it.
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And now, look.
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Instead, he's getting buried
with buckets and shovels like...
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- like a piece of garbage.
- Hey.
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Hey.
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Get back. Get back.
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You promised to stay off our land.
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Well, David made a promise, too.
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He gave us his word, after his
message was played, he'd come out.
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He didn't come out.
He... he broke his promise.
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Could you put him on the phone?
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No. He doesn't want
to talk to you right now.
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Look, Steve, my bosses are frustrated.
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They don't understand
why you didn't come out.
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Look, I'm embarrassed about
that, on a personal level.
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We were gonna come out, but...
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God told David that we needed to wait.
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- God told him?
- Yeah, just like you guys
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follow a higher authority, we do too.
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Okay. So, what now?
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So, now, we wait for a sign from
God to tell us to come out.
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Look...
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I know this all probably
sounds funny to you.
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But...
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what if there is a higher power
than you or I, Gary?
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And that higher power,
He speaks to David?
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If there is a God in this universe,
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and you've got the laws of man
and the laws of God,
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and that God that has led David
his entire life
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says to him, "Wait."
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I mean, what is he supposed to do?
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Well, I have to be honest
with you, Steve.
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I don't know how my bosses
are gonna respond
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when I tell them we're waiting
for a sign from God.
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You know, what I could really
use is a sign of good faith.
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If David could send
some of the people out.
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What, do you think we're hostages here?
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No one is a hostage here, Gary.
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Everyone is free
to come and go as they please.
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Then why isn't anyone coming out?
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Because, right now,
everyone feels safer in here
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than they do out there with you.
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And because once you get
into this building,
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you're going to be able to mess with
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the evidence in any way that you want.
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And you can make up any story
that you want,
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but if this building stands,
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and the reporters and the press
get to see the evidence,
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then it is going to be clearly shown
what happened here,
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what these men...
what your men came in here to do.
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- You want us to come out?
- David, listen. You've gotta...
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Then why are you bringing
these tanks in here?
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Do you know what that tells me?
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That this is war.
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Why are you sending all these
people in here, guns ablazing?
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For war, Gary.
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And now, these tanks?
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And these guys surrounding us?
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You say you want us to come out,
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but it sure doesn't look like that to us.
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David, I...
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"Personal level."
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"On a personal level."
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What'd we just learn
from this conversation?
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That they'll do whatever
this Koresh guy tells 'em.
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No, we already knew that.
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But Steve said that he was embarrassed
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about that "on a personal level."
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He's separating himself from Koresh.
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Saying he doesn't agree.
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What can you tell me
about this Steve Schneider?
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Well, he was a professor of
theology at the University of Hawaii.
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He's originally from Wisconsin.
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He and his wife joined the group
six years ago.
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He's their star recruiter.
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The group has nearly doubled
since he joined.
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- Really?
- Our informant says
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that he's the glue
that keeps this place together.
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And get this.
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His wife, Judy,
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recently had a baby with Koresh.
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That can't be good for the relationship.
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Yeah.
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If Steve brought
most of these people in,
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I would guess he feels responsible
for their wellbeing.
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Right? Let's focus
all our attention on him.
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If we can break Steve away,
this whole thing ends.
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David...?
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Can you hear me?
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I'd like to send some people out.
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Jaydean's kids are without a mother,
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and Margaret and Catherine,
they're just...
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they're just too old for this.
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We are running low on food.
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And our water supply is real bad.
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The less mouths to feed, the better.
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- Well, that's getting worse.
- Yeah.
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Let me see.
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It hurts real bad.
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Oohwhee.
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Hey.
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- I'm thinking you should go.
- Well, is David going?
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No.
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- Then I'm not going.
- Look at your finger.
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If that infection spreads, you...
I mean, you could lose your hand.
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- I know.
- You could lose your life.
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It hurts so bad, I can't sleep.
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Cut it off.
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What?
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I'm gonna lose it anyway, Steve.
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- Cut it off.
- No!
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Has everyone around here
lost their minds?
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Nobody's cutting your finger off!
And I'm sending you outside
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- to get medical attention.
- No, you're not!
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- Yes I am...
- No, you are not!
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I just got off the phone.
They're sending four people out.
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- Two of 'em, kids.
- That's a start.
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Four people seems hardly cause
for celebration.
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Well, they're starting to trickle out.
The strategy's working.
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Now, you think you can help me
coordinate bringing 'em out?
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Yeah, sure.
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Mama.
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Mama. Ma...
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Hey, there.
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I'm Gary. What's your name?
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- Leona.
- Leona?
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Such a pretty name.
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Hey, why don't we call your mom
and tell her you're okay?
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- We can't call her.
- Why not?
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Because you killed her.
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- Hey, Steve?
- Yep?
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I was wondering if you could
talk to the FBI about Perry.
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See if they'll let us
bury his body outside.
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I asked you to bury his body
in the storm shelter.
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I know. It's just... Michelle.
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I know it would mean a lot to her
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if we could bury him
by the myrtle tree...
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It's impossible. It's not gonna happen.
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Could you just ask? Please?
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I can try.
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All right, today, we got something
a little different for y'all.
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Our guest today is a Dr. James
Tabor, professor of... what was it?
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I specialize in emergent religions.
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Emergent religions.
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Let's talk about your interest
in this Branch Davidian cult.
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Yeah, I'm gonna stop you
right there, Ron.
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I would propose that there's
no such thing as a cult.
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"Cult" is a judgment word used
to talk about somebody else's
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tightlyknit religious group.
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Nobody in the world belongs
to what they see as a cult.
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Yeah, but there are
certain traits you think of
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- when you think of a cult.
- That's true.
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The early Christians, by our
definition, belonged to a cult.
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So you're saying
Jesus was a cult leader?
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I wasn't saying it exactly like that,
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but by the common definition
of "cult," yes.
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That got the phones ringing.
You done it now, Dr. Tabor.
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Excuse me. My son is in Mt. Carmel,
and I need to talk to him.
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How did you get past the barricade?
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Listen, I am not altogether sure how
he got mixed up in all this mess,
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but I know if I could talk to him,
if I could just speak to him,
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that I could get him to come out.
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I'm sorry, I can't let you do that.
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- Why not?
- Because I don't wanna give him
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or anyone in there the chance
to tie up loose ends.
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You think that they're
gonna kill themselves?
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Doesn't matter what I think.
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But I'm not gonna give them a
chance to say goodbye either way.
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Please escort her
back behind the checkpoint.
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I just wanna know if he's all right.
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His name is David Thibodeau.
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The news reports
aren't releasing any names.
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I'm sorry, ma'am. I don't have any
more information at this time.
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I just need to know
if he's alive! Please!
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David, your fever's not breaking.
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I'm afraid you're going to die
if we don't get you help.
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It's all part of God's plan.
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No. I just lost my father.
I'm not gonna lose you, too.
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- Hello?
- Hello. Who's this?
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- Cyrus.
- David's son.
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- Yeah.
- Well, hello, Cyrus.
251
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Can you put your dad on the phone?
252
00:16:42,688 --> 00:16:44,923
Are you gonna kill me?
253
00:16:45,691 --> 00:16:49,796
No. No one's going to kill you.
254
00:16:50,563 --> 00:16:51,798
Cyrus?
255
00:16:52,597 --> 00:16:53,967
Thanks, buddy.
256
00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:56,902
Come here.
257
00:16:57,969 --> 00:16:59,209
Hello, this is Steve Schneider.
258
00:17:00,505 --> 00:17:03,141
Hey, Steve. Just wanted
to give you a quick call
259
00:17:03,274 --> 00:17:05,643
and let you know
that everybody arrived safe.
260
00:17:05,777 --> 00:17:09,180
Good. Well, I hope that
shows you what we're about.
261
00:17:10,159 --> 00:17:11,917
We wanna see this resolved peacefully.
262
00:17:12,051 --> 00:17:15,920
Of course. I can tell you're
the voice of reason in there.
263
00:17:16,053 --> 00:17:19,490
I bet people count on you to
make sure they're taken care of.
264
00:17:19,624 --> 00:17:21,626
I'm not sure that's true.
265
00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:23,288
Well, from what I hear,
266
00:17:23,327 --> 00:17:25,327
you're the reason
the group's grown like it has.
267
00:17:25,464 --> 00:17:28,833
The reason that the group has grown
is because of David's teaching,
268
00:17:28,967 --> 00:17:30,469
not because of anything I'm doing.
269
00:17:30,602 --> 00:17:32,005
I think you're being modest.
270
00:17:33,572 --> 00:17:35,474
Knowing everything you know now...
271
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,411
are you happy you brought
all those people in there?
272
00:17:40,178 --> 00:17:42,180
I'm not sure
what you're driving at, Gary.
273
00:17:42,313 --> 00:17:46,686
Well, do you think David has
everyone's best interest in mind?
274
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:53,726
Yeah. I do.
275
00:17:53,859 --> 00:17:56,128
Because, forgive me for saying this,
276
00:17:56,262 --> 00:17:59,398
but I can't help but notice a
trend that when God comes to talk
277
00:17:59,532 --> 00:18:01,567
to modernday prophets,
278
00:18:02,334 --> 00:18:04,535
it seems one thing
He always tells them to do
279
00:18:04,669 --> 00:18:07,272
is have sex with lots of young women.
280
00:18:08,206 --> 00:18:11,243
Well, that's a pretty cynical
view of what we're doing here.
281
00:18:11,376 --> 00:18:13,879
I'm not sure I appreciate
your tone with that one.
282
00:18:14,012 --> 00:18:17,249
- Then explain it to me.
- I'm not stupid.
283
00:18:17,382 --> 00:18:21,085
I know you're trying to create
dissent between me and David.
284
00:18:21,853 --> 00:18:24,056
You're right, I am.
'Cause you know what I think?
285
00:18:24,957 --> 00:18:27,226
I think David's dying,
286
00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,599
and I think he doesn't mind
bringing all of you with him.
287
00:18:29,695 --> 00:18:31,630
You know, Gary,
where you've got this all wrong,
288
00:18:31,763 --> 00:18:33,532
the thing that you're missing...
289
00:18:33,665 --> 00:18:35,234
is this is real.
290
00:18:35,367 --> 00:18:37,836
I do believe that David
is the Lamb of God.
291
00:18:37,969 --> 00:18:40,005
Not because of any trick he's pulled,
292
00:18:40,139 --> 00:18:43,976
but because of what I have seen
with my own two eyes.
293
00:18:44,110 --> 00:18:49,314
But he's lost his way, Steve.
I think you can see it.
294
00:18:50,483 --> 00:18:55,354
For years, David has been prophesying
exactly what is happening here.
295
00:18:55,486 --> 00:18:58,457
From the way you came in, to the
tanks, the soldiers, everything.
296
00:18:58,590 --> 00:19:01,394
I can't figure out another
explanation that makes any sense.
297
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,698
For a minor weapons violation? All this?
298
00:19:05,831 --> 00:19:07,800
You think he's lost his way?
299
00:19:07,932 --> 00:19:12,137
Everything David has prophesied
has come true.
300
00:19:26,217 --> 00:19:28,519
Hey, guys, stay away from the window.
301
00:19:28,653 --> 00:19:30,555
It's not safe.
302
00:19:36,562 --> 00:19:38,463
Why are they doing that?
303
00:19:38,596 --> 00:19:40,098
I don't know.
304
00:19:40,232 --> 00:19:42,134
Come on. Let's go.
305
00:19:43,168 --> 00:19:46,072
What's going on?
306
00:19:50,274 --> 00:19:52,377
What goes through
people's heads, you know?
307
00:19:52,511 --> 00:19:55,714
I mean, these HRT guys, what
makes grown men act like that?
308
00:19:55,848 --> 00:19:58,717
They're mooning kids, for God's sake.
309
00:19:58,850 --> 00:20:00,586
They're just built that way.
310
00:20:01,419 --> 00:20:04,724
The sad thing is, the Davidians
can't tell us apart from them.
311
00:20:09,093 --> 00:20:11,096
I need you to get me a video camera.
312
00:20:12,831 --> 00:20:14,867
Ready? How's my hair?
313
00:20:14,999 --> 00:20:16,601
It's about as good as it's gonna get.
314
00:20:16,735 --> 00:20:18,536
Knock it off.
315
00:20:18,669 --> 00:20:20,206
All right. We're good.
316
00:20:21,607 --> 00:20:24,710
Hello. I'm Gary Noesner.
317
00:20:25,544 --> 00:20:27,246
The notorious.
318
00:20:27,379 --> 00:20:29,782
And...
319
00:20:29,915 --> 00:20:31,350
this is my family.
320
00:20:32,851 --> 00:20:34,519
Yeah, that's my wife, Carol, there,
321
00:20:34,653 --> 00:20:39,624
and my kids, Kelly, Katy,
and Rusty, and I love 'em.
322
00:20:39,757 --> 00:20:42,294
I'm sure you love your kids
the same way.
323
00:20:42,427 --> 00:20:46,032
And there is literally nothing I
wouldn't do to keep my children safe.
324
00:20:47,532 --> 00:20:49,601
I'm sure we share that feeling.
325
00:20:51,736 --> 00:20:54,073
Now, any way you look at it,
this is a bad situation,
326
00:20:54,206 --> 00:20:59,011
but I wanna make sure that your
kids remain safe through it all.
327
00:20:59,878 --> 00:21:01,981
So, please...
328
00:21:02,915 --> 00:21:04,783
please work with me.
329
00:21:05,583 --> 00:21:06,751
Help me keep your kids safe.
330
00:21:13,291 --> 00:21:14,393
Rachel?
331
00:21:18,897 --> 00:21:21,265
Hey, I got a weird question.
332
00:21:21,399 --> 00:21:22,702
Y'know, I...
333
00:21:24,669 --> 00:21:28,039
I'm not producing any milk.
334
00:21:29,341 --> 00:21:33,011
And... I was wondering if you
had some to spare for Mayanah.
335
00:21:33,143 --> 00:21:36,881
I'm having the same problem.
All the mothers are.
336
00:21:37,681 --> 00:21:41,120
- You are?
- Yeah. Sorry.
337
00:21:41,253 --> 00:21:44,624
God.
338
00:21:44,756 --> 00:21:46,758
All right.
339
00:21:48,593 --> 00:21:51,029
Shh, shh, shh...
340
00:21:54,733 --> 00:21:56,902
This universe is mine.
341
00:21:57,034 --> 00:21:58,311
I can't believe Koresh likes this.
342
00:21:58,335 --> 00:21:59,938
I am God here!
343
00:22:00,738 --> 00:22:02,741
Jesus.
344
00:22:03,809 --> 00:22:05,878
I don't get this movie.
345
00:22:06,011 --> 00:22:08,280
I can't say it makes
my top 10 list either.
346
00:22:08,413 --> 00:22:10,882
You're wrong. You need to be led...
347
00:22:11,015 --> 00:22:12,050
Ready?
348
00:22:12,184 --> 00:22:14,119
Yeah.
349
00:22:14,887 --> 00:22:17,056
- Hello?
- Hey, Gary, it's Steve.
350
00:22:17,188 --> 00:22:20,993
Um, we just wanted to say thanks
for sending the videotape.
351
00:22:21,126 --> 00:22:22,686
We understand what you're trying to do,
352
00:22:22,726 --> 00:22:25,229
and we really appreciate
you making that effort.
353
00:22:25,363 --> 00:22:27,865
I just wanted you to know that
there's some people out here
354
00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:30,101
who care about what happens
to you, that's all.
355
00:22:30,235 --> 00:22:32,036
Yeah. Um...
356
00:22:32,169 --> 00:22:35,207
I do have one small problem,
357
00:22:35,340 --> 00:22:38,043
and I could really use your help.
358
00:22:38,177 --> 00:22:40,212
- What kinda problem?
- So...
359
00:22:40,344 --> 00:22:42,380
I guess because of the stress
of all this,
360
00:22:43,381 --> 00:22:48,285
the mothers who are nursing have...
have stopped lactating.
361
00:22:48,419 --> 00:22:51,856
So... we need milk.
362
00:22:51,989 --> 00:22:54,758
For the babies. Could you send some in?
363
00:22:55,526 --> 00:22:58,996
- Let me talk to my bosses.
- Okay. Thanks, Gary.
364
00:22:59,130 --> 00:23:00,432
You bet.
365
00:23:03,668 --> 00:23:07,372
No, I'm not throwing them
a picnic on national TV.
366
00:23:07,505 --> 00:23:09,807
They want milk,
they can come out and get it.
367
00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:14,412
Look. Usually the people I negotiate
with are backed into a corner.
368
00:23:14,546 --> 00:23:17,882
They need something.
And that's what gives me leverage.
369
00:23:18,016 --> 00:23:21,553
But these people,
they just want us to go away.
370
00:23:21,687 --> 00:23:24,389
The only way I've been able to
motivate them is with goodwill.
371
00:23:24,523 --> 00:23:28,193
But now, their babies need milk,
and we can give it to them.
372
00:23:29,361 --> 00:23:32,297
This is something we can build on.
We can use this.
373
00:23:33,865 --> 00:23:36,767
So, Steve, I talked to my bosses,
374
00:23:36,901 --> 00:23:38,403
and they're gonna give you the milk.
375
00:23:38,536 --> 00:23:40,338
Aw, Gary.
376
00:23:40,473 --> 00:23:42,875
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
377
00:23:43,774 --> 00:23:47,313
But there's one condition. You're
gonna have to send some kids out.
378
00:23:50,015 --> 00:23:54,152
Wait. Um... let me just make
sure I'm hearing you correctly.
379
00:23:54,953 --> 00:23:57,356
Um, you want us to trade...
380
00:23:58,657 --> 00:23:59,824
our kids for the milk?
381
00:24:00,592 --> 00:24:02,870
I wouldn't really put it like that.
I'm just saying that...
382
00:24:02,894 --> 00:24:04,610
Look, I don't wanna
point out the obvious,
383
00:24:04,634 --> 00:24:07,208
but if we send out our kids,
then we won't need the milk, will we?
384
00:24:07,232 --> 00:24:08,232
Steve?
385
00:24:08,265 --> 00:24:10,803
- Yeah?
- May I?
386
00:24:11,836 --> 00:24:14,272
Um, yeah. David wants to talk to you.
387
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,842
Yeah, how much milk
we talking here, Gary?
388
00:24:16,975 --> 00:24:18,577
- David...
- Two quarts per kid? Three?
389
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:21,613
I mean, some kids
gotta be worth more than others.
390
00:24:21,746 --> 00:24:23,431
Cyrus, my son, he's eight,
391
00:24:23,455 --> 00:24:26,376
but he can fix any car engine
you put in front of him.
392
00:24:26,484 --> 00:24:30,188
That's gotta be worth, what, at
least three quarts and a milkshake?
393
00:24:30,956 --> 00:24:32,123
You people.
394
00:24:36,661 --> 00:24:38,663
You shouldn't have done that.
395
00:24:38,796 --> 00:24:40,298
You know we have to work with them.
396
00:24:41,246 --> 00:24:42,300
Yeah, well...
397
00:24:42,434 --> 00:24:44,837
good luck with that, Steve.
398
00:25:01,527 --> 00:25:05,232
Rachel? This is how I'd like to
ration out the food and water.
399
00:25:05,796 --> 00:25:07,030
Can you take care of that?
400
00:25:07,164 --> 00:25:08,702
No one's gonna be happy with this.
401
00:25:08,780 --> 00:25:11,870
Well, if they don't like it,
they're welcome to leave.
402
00:25:13,562 --> 00:25:16,766
Steve. Steve, did you get
any news about the milk?
403
00:25:16,923 --> 00:25:21,335
Yeah. I'm... I'm...
I'm working on it. I promise.
404
00:25:21,469 --> 00:25:23,552
Hey, Steve, have you had a chance
to talk to the FBI about Perry?
405
00:25:23,576 --> 00:25:27,109
Look, Thibs, just bury the body
like I asked you. Okay?
406
00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:34,916
- You get bacon on yours?
- Yeah.
407
00:25:35,049 --> 00:25:38,787
I shoulda gotten bacon on mine.
408
00:25:40,456 --> 00:25:43,725
You know, that's how we stopped
the Clarksville prison riot.
409
00:25:43,859 --> 00:25:45,694
- With bacon?
- Yeah.
410
00:25:46,761 --> 00:25:49,931
It was after day eight,
and we took a bunch of bacon
411
00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:52,235
and threw it on some coals.
412
00:25:52,367 --> 00:25:55,270
The prisoners smelled it and were
instantly overcome with hunger.
413
00:25:55,403 --> 00:25:56,611
And I told them,
414
00:25:56,650 --> 00:25:58,799
if they came out, they could eat
as much as they want.
415
00:25:59,909 --> 00:26:03,278
Never underestimate what a
hungry man will do for bacon.
416
00:26:03,411 --> 00:26:05,146
Shame the Davidians don't eat pork.
417
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:06,848
It is.
418
00:26:09,084 --> 00:26:11,085
We've got movement outside the compound.
419
00:26:11,219 --> 00:26:13,021
- All agents to their posts.
- Shit.
420
00:26:13,154 --> 00:26:14,891
Prepare to fire on command.
421
00:26:18,126 --> 00:26:20,061
- It's Steve.
- Steve! What's going on?
422
00:26:20,195 --> 00:26:22,239
Tactical says
someone exited the compound.
423
00:26:23,247 --> 00:26:24,267
Shit!
424
00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:32,574
It's Thibodeau. He's unarmed!
425
00:26:32,708 --> 00:26:35,411
He's just trying to bury a body.
Please don't shoot him!
426
00:26:35,544 --> 00:26:36,645
Okay, hang on, Steve.
427
00:26:36,777 --> 00:26:38,613
- Where's Decker?
- I don't know.
428
00:26:39,949 --> 00:26:42,317
Copy sniper one,
sniper one, you got the loop.
429
00:26:48,289 --> 00:26:51,093
- Steve!
- Get out of my way!
430
00:26:52,327 --> 00:26:54,529
Thibs! You gotta get back in here!
431
00:27:02,170 --> 00:27:03,671
Tell your man to stand down!
432
00:27:03,805 --> 00:27:06,142
This is a tactical decision.
It's not your call, Gary.
433
00:27:06,275 --> 00:27:08,177
No, no. He's just trying to bury a body.
434
00:27:08,309 --> 00:27:10,120
And I'm telling you, you don't
know what he's burying.
435
00:27:10,144 --> 00:27:11,589
That could be a bomb, for all we know.
436
00:27:11,613 --> 00:27:13,333
Damn it, I'm telling you,
the kid's unarmed.
437
00:27:13,382 --> 00:27:14,993
And I'm telling you,
you don't know that, Gary.
438
00:27:15,017 --> 00:27:17,318
Now, I can't have people
strolling outside,
439
00:27:17,451 --> 00:27:19,654
walking around, looking
at our positions on things.
440
00:27:19,787 --> 00:27:21,957
The kid is trying to bury
one of his dead, Mitch.
441
00:27:22,091 --> 00:27:26,128
They let the ATF take their wounded away.
Show 'em the same respect.
442
00:27:26,261 --> 00:27:29,730
They lost my respect when they started
killing federal agents, Gary.
443
00:27:29,864 --> 00:27:32,277
All right, all right. You want
another Ruby Ridge on your hands?
444
00:27:32,301 --> 00:27:34,003
- Yeah.
- Go ahead, shoot that boy.
445
00:27:34,135 --> 00:27:35,780
But just remember,
the ATF's not gonna be around
446
00:27:35,804 --> 00:27:38,040
- to take the blame this time!
- I don't give a shit!
447
00:27:41,442 --> 00:27:44,579
Requesting permission
to take the shot. Over.
448
00:27:45,948 --> 00:27:48,249
I have the target in my view.
449
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,258
Repeat, requesting permission
to take the shot. Over.
450
00:28:02,064 --> 00:28:03,399
Stand down.
451
00:28:27,277 --> 00:28:29,123
Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
452
00:28:29,891 --> 00:28:32,091
A few days ago, the FBI learned
453
00:28:32,139 --> 00:28:34,670
that the Branch Davidians
ran out of milk.
454
00:28:35,397 --> 00:28:37,397
And they are no longer able
to feed their children.
455
00:28:37,432 --> 00:28:39,100
Nice of them to tell the truth for once.
456
00:28:39,234 --> 00:28:40,969
Numerous attempts have been
made by the FBI
457
00:28:41,103 --> 00:28:43,339
to deliver milk for their babies,
458
00:28:43,471 --> 00:28:44,940
but they have all been refused.
459
00:28:45,774 --> 00:28:50,146
It seems they are using their own
children as pawns in this thing.
460
00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:53,048
David Koresh...
461
00:28:53,849 --> 00:28:56,051
let us bring milk to those children.
462
00:28:56,183 --> 00:28:59,387
Pawns, Gary?
We're using our kids as pawns?
463
00:28:59,522 --> 00:29:01,857
- Is that what you think?
- No, it's not.
464
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:03,691
Then why are they saying that on TV?
465
00:29:04,459 --> 00:29:06,262
- I don't know.
- Your boss said
466
00:29:06,394 --> 00:29:08,430
they have made attempts to deliver milk.
467
00:29:08,563 --> 00:29:11,143
Now, when did that happen? Because
we've been here the entire time,
468
00:29:11,167 --> 00:29:13,336
and I don't recall anyone
knocking on our door!
469
00:29:14,336 --> 00:29:17,504
Steve, look. I wanna get you that milk.
That's the God's honest truth.
470
00:29:17,639 --> 00:29:20,275
But you're gonna have to let out
some of the kids in return.
471
00:29:20,409 --> 00:29:22,710
I'm sorry, Gary.
That's not gonna happen.
472
00:29:29,418 --> 00:29:31,719
With cult leader David Koresh
473
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:33,855
becoming less involved
in direct negotiations,
474
00:29:33,988 --> 00:29:37,360
authorities suspect
his wounds may be getting worse.
475
00:29:37,492 --> 00:29:41,595
Agents told cult members that those
not charged with serious offenses
476
00:29:41,729 --> 00:29:44,365
eventually will be allowed
to return to the compound
477
00:29:44,498 --> 00:29:46,834
once it's cleared of the crime scene.
478
00:29:46,968 --> 00:29:50,005
- Sheriff Harwell?
- Yeah?
479
00:29:50,138 --> 00:29:53,009
I'm Gary Noesner, Head Negotiator, FBI.
480
00:29:53,875 --> 00:29:56,277
Can I help you?
481
00:29:57,446 --> 00:29:59,582
You mind?
482
00:30:01,917 --> 00:30:03,318
Well...
483
00:30:04,183 --> 00:30:05,964
when I can't get a guy to trust me,
484
00:30:06,003 --> 00:30:08,144
I try and find someone he will trust.
485
00:30:09,857 --> 00:30:12,027
And David Koresh trusts you.
486
00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:17,400
I could really use your help.
487
00:30:30,446 --> 00:30:34,750
- This is David.
- David, it's Sheriff Harwell.
488
00:30:37,219 --> 00:30:38,520
Hey, Jack.
489
00:30:39,755 --> 00:30:42,090
Sure is nice to hear a friendly voice.
490
00:30:42,222 --> 00:30:45,527
David, I came down here today
491
00:30:45,661 --> 00:30:48,301
because I wanna make sure that those
babies get the milk they need.
492
00:30:49,030 --> 00:30:50,613
Well, they said on the news
493
00:30:50,637 --> 00:30:53,207
it was us refusing
to make this happen, Jack.
494
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:55,504
It's just...
495
00:30:57,072 --> 00:30:59,841
these are our children
they're asking us to give up.
496
00:30:59,975 --> 00:31:01,543
I understand, but...
497
00:31:01,677 --> 00:31:04,980
it might not be the worst thing
to get the babies fed,
498
00:31:05,113 --> 00:31:08,883
and at the same time, get some of
your other kids out of harm's way.
499
00:31:09,651 --> 00:31:12,787
- You know what I'm saying?
- Yeah, I do.
500
00:31:12,921 --> 00:31:16,825
Good. Now, David, how much milk
do you think you need?
501
00:31:18,893 --> 00:31:21,564
- Six gallons will do.
- All right.
502
00:31:22,331 --> 00:31:24,366
Now, David, I'm gonna get ya
the six gallons,
503
00:31:24,499 --> 00:31:26,278
but you gotta keep a level head in this
504
00:31:26,302 --> 00:31:28,137
while we try to resolve this thing.
505
00:31:28,636 --> 00:31:31,506
Thank you, Jack. You're a good man.
506
00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:36,111
Look, I just don't think we
should make it so easy on 'em.
507
00:31:36,244 --> 00:31:38,180
Jesus. You think we made it easy on 'em?
508
00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:40,916
They agreed to send their
kids out, for Christ's sake.
509
00:31:41,048 --> 00:31:43,985
Right now, the only card we have
to play is creating goodwill.
510
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:47,689
No, it's not.
That's your only card, Gary.
511
00:31:49,924 --> 00:31:52,228
Look, the people
they're sending out won't talk.
512
00:31:52,361 --> 00:31:54,796
And we have no idea
what's going on in there...
513
00:31:54,930 --> 00:31:56,230
what they're planning to do.
514
00:31:56,364 --> 00:31:58,199
All right. What's your point, Noesner?
515
00:31:58,334 --> 00:32:01,469
If we send the milk in
and bug it somehow...
516
00:32:01,603 --> 00:32:03,337
we'll have ears inside.
517
00:32:04,805 --> 00:32:09,377
That'll help me with negotiations,
and Mitch, tactically.
518
00:32:19,697 --> 00:32:20,756
Do it.
519
00:32:41,248 --> 00:32:43,117
- Judy, you need...
- Shh.
520
00:32:43,252 --> 00:32:44,853
Just got her to sleep.
521
00:32:44,985 --> 00:32:46,287
What's going on?
522
00:32:47,222 --> 00:32:49,284
- Are there more people going?
- Yeah.
523
00:32:49,917 --> 00:32:51,652
And I want you and Mayanah
to be two of 'em.
524
00:32:51,786 --> 00:32:53,821
No. I already told you, Steve.
I can't go...
525
00:32:53,954 --> 00:32:56,351
Well, this is not about you anymore.
This is about Mayanah.
526
00:32:57,058 --> 00:33:00,281
You asked me to look out for her
like she was my own.
527
00:33:00,389 --> 00:33:03,131
Well, that's what I'm doing.
This is what that looks like.
528
00:33:03,179 --> 00:33:04,924
I don't trust the people
out there, though, Steve.
529
00:33:04,948 --> 00:33:06,450
I don't trust them.
530
00:33:08,785 --> 00:33:09,785
I know.
531
00:33:10,721 --> 00:33:14,359
What about you? I can't leave you.
532
00:33:16,127 --> 00:33:17,361
I should stay.
533
00:33:22,765 --> 00:33:25,536
It's the right thing to do.
534
00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:29,872
Hey, Luke. I'm gonna miss
that inquisitive mind.
535
00:33:30,006 --> 00:33:33,577
I want you to take care of your mama.
All right, give me a hug.
536
00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:36,414
Okay.
537
00:33:48,727 --> 00:33:49,960
All right.
538
00:33:50,962 --> 00:33:53,664
What are Judy and Mayanah
doing in the hallway?
539
00:33:53,798 --> 00:33:55,200
'Cause they're leaving.
540
00:33:57,167 --> 00:33:59,236
Six gallons. Bugs are in the crate.
541
00:33:59,369 --> 00:34:01,272
Need a vest?
542
00:34:02,473 --> 00:34:04,442
They don't wanna shoot me.
543
00:34:05,875 --> 00:34:07,578
All right.
544
00:34:11,415 --> 00:34:13,384
Is that everyone?
545
00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:20,558
Um, Dave, I'd like you to send out...
546
00:34:21,324 --> 00:34:23,127
Judy and Mayanah.
547
00:34:24,996 --> 00:34:26,231
No.
548
00:34:26,996 --> 00:34:28,398
I can't do that.
549
00:34:30,801 --> 00:34:32,436
Okay.
550
00:34:35,373 --> 00:34:37,708
You know, I've never asked you
for anything.
551
00:34:40,795 --> 00:34:42,139
In all the years I've known you,
552
00:34:42,186 --> 00:34:44,436
everything I have done has been for you.
553
00:34:45,882 --> 00:34:50,320
Please, David.
I'm asking you this one thing.
554
00:34:51,822 --> 00:34:53,657
And I'll talk to Judy.
555
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:56,593
She can just tell them that...
that Mayanah is my daughter.
556
00:35:01,331 --> 00:35:02,900
But, Steve...
557
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,536
she's not your daughter.
558
00:35:06,670 --> 00:35:08,406
She's mine.
559
00:35:14,677 --> 00:35:16,580
Right.
560
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:18,549
Right.
561
00:35:23,353 --> 00:35:24,554
I wanna stay with you.
562
00:35:24,688 --> 00:35:26,589
I wanna stay with you, too, baby.
563
00:35:26,723 --> 00:35:28,591
- But God wants me to stay here.
- Mommy...?
564
00:35:28,726 --> 00:35:32,497
And I need to keep you safe, okay?
565
00:35:41,572 --> 00:35:43,875
You're the greatest gift
God ever gave me.
566
00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:07,965
Let's go.
567
00:36:17,507 --> 00:36:20,677
Hey, guys. Right up here.
568
00:36:21,445 --> 00:36:23,279
You got it? Come here.
569
00:36:23,413 --> 00:36:27,418
Come here, buddy. Come here. Come here.
Let's go. Come on with me.
570
00:36:28,185 --> 00:36:30,654
How many guns you think they're
pointing at us right now?
571
00:36:31,455 --> 00:36:34,257
I bet a lot.
572
00:36:51,409 --> 00:36:56,046
- Steve, hi. Wayne, Gary Noesner.
- Hey.
573
00:36:56,846 --> 00:36:59,282
- Hi.
- Yeah, I've seen your video.
574
00:37:00,317 --> 00:37:02,686
But I'm sure I'm much
betterlooking in person, right?
575
00:37:02,819 --> 00:37:06,055
Let's just say that you got
a pretty good face for radio.
576
00:37:06,188 --> 00:37:09,192
Could we just get this over with?
577
00:37:09,326 --> 00:37:10,961
Yeah, sure. I'm sorry.
578
00:37:11,094 --> 00:37:13,364
Steve, can I talk to you for
a minute, just you and I?
579
00:37:14,197 --> 00:37:16,034
Yeah. It's okay.
580
00:37:21,938 --> 00:37:25,042
You need to know your people are in
a lot more danger than you think.
581
00:37:27,643 --> 00:37:30,246
And in my experience, the longer
these situations go on,
582
00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:32,616
the more erratic people's behavior gets.
583
00:37:33,583 --> 00:37:35,351
Yeah, we're seeing that
on our side, too.
584
00:37:39,056 --> 00:37:41,659
- Can I ask you something, Steve?
- Yeah.
585
00:37:42,592 --> 00:37:44,361
Whose child is Mayanah?
586
00:37:47,964 --> 00:37:50,066
We've all made
a lot of sacrifices to be here.
587
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:54,136
- She's David's child, isn't she?
- I made a choice.
588
00:37:54,270 --> 00:37:55,939
Judy made a choice.
589
00:37:58,641 --> 00:38:01,044
How is she, Judy? I heard she was shot.
590
00:38:02,578 --> 00:38:04,314
- She's fine.
- She's fine?
591
00:38:04,447 --> 00:38:07,317
She has a bullet in her, and her
baby needs milk, but she's fine?
592
00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:10,020
She's still in there. Why is that?
593
00:38:10,987 --> 00:38:14,625
- Because we made a decision together...
- No. No, I think
594
00:38:14,757 --> 00:38:16,717
David was the one
who made that decision, not you.
595
00:38:16,826 --> 00:38:18,763
I think if it were up to you,
596
00:38:18,895 --> 00:38:21,932
Judy would be in that vehicle
right now, with Mayanah.
597
00:38:24,368 --> 00:38:25,636
Am I wrong?
598
00:38:28,272 --> 00:38:30,107
Now, look, Steve,
the thing you gotta realize
599
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,576
is that you do have the power
to make your own decisions.
600
00:38:34,543 --> 00:38:38,648
Decisions for you, for Judy, for
Mayanah, for everyone in there
601
00:38:38,782 --> 00:38:42,386
who is waiting for someone to find
the courage to lead them out.
602
00:38:46,489 --> 00:38:48,192
You know, it's funny... I can't tell you
603
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:50,360
how many times
I wanted to leave this place.
604
00:38:51,127 --> 00:38:54,865
And all the fire ants
and the dust storms...
605
00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:57,768
and David.
606
00:38:58,569 --> 00:39:01,706
You're right. David's horrible.
607
00:39:02,706 --> 00:39:04,909
Selfcentered, rude.
608
00:39:05,875 --> 00:39:09,979
I wish that God would have chosen
609
00:39:10,112 --> 00:39:15,386
any other person on the earth
to speak through instead of him.
610
00:39:16,619 --> 00:39:18,288
But you know what?
611
00:39:19,056 --> 00:39:20,657
Despite everything you're saying,
612
00:39:21,424 --> 00:39:24,928
no one's explained to me
what we did to deserve all this.
613
00:39:27,130 --> 00:39:30,067
You know, you have the power
to end this, too.
614
00:39:31,034 --> 00:39:32,703
How's that?
615
00:39:34,804 --> 00:39:36,573
You could just leave.
616
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:42,078
We weren't bothering anybody.
617
00:39:50,487 --> 00:39:51,855
Yeah, I know.
618
00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:57,428
Thanks for the milk.
619
00:40:10,395 --> 00:40:12,865
All right. We're rolling.
620
00:40:13,959 --> 00:40:15,160
Okay.
621
00:40:16,935 --> 00:40:19,305
Say whatever you wanna say.
622
00:40:21,908 --> 00:40:23,410
Well...
623
00:40:26,178 --> 00:40:29,649
I just wanna say
thanks a lot for killing my dad.
624
00:40:31,783 --> 00:40:33,753
My dad's name was Perry Jones.
625
00:40:34,821 --> 00:40:36,823
He was an unarmed man.
626
00:40:38,123 --> 00:40:39,493
And...
627
00:40:41,661 --> 00:40:44,497
you just shot him
through the door, so...
628
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,035
thanks a lot.
629
00:40:54,940 --> 00:40:58,078
- And thanks for the milk.
- Yeah, thanks for the milk.
630
00:41:14,161 --> 00:41:15,662
Wow.
631
00:41:16,428 --> 00:41:17,896
Is it bleeding again?
632
00:41:18,029 --> 00:41:21,366
- It's all over the pillow.
- Well...
633
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,437
it ain't nothing
for a tough guy like me.
634
00:41:27,682 --> 00:41:30,534
A lot of beliefs people have
may seem abnormal
635
00:41:30,558 --> 00:41:31,862
or strange to other people,
636
00:41:31,901 --> 00:41:34,147
but that doesn't mean
it's not right, though.
637
00:41:35,147 --> 00:41:39,184
God speaks to me.
I have a message to present.
638
00:41:39,953 --> 00:41:41,688
And you may not believe that.
639
00:41:42,756 --> 00:41:44,891
If you don't believe that,
then believe this,
640
00:41:45,024 --> 00:41:47,728
irrespective of God speaking to me.
641
00:41:51,131 --> 00:41:52,832
See this here?
642
00:41:53,799 --> 00:41:58,071
This is my family.
May not be like your family.
643
00:41:58,904 --> 00:42:00,940
But you come pointing guns
644
00:42:01,074 --> 00:42:04,477
in the direction
of my wives and my kids?
645
00:42:05,245 --> 00:42:10,484
Damn it, I will meet you
at the door any time.
646
00:42:13,085 --> 00:42:15,656
I'm sorry some of you guys got shot.
647
00:42:16,723 --> 00:42:18,458
But, hey...
648
00:42:20,725 --> 00:42:23,629
God'll have to sort that out, won't He?
649
00:42:28,868 --> 00:42:30,971
You still think
you can reason with this guy?
650
00:42:42,381 --> 00:42:43,884
What are you gonna do with that?
651
00:42:47,187 --> 00:42:50,991
Can't let this get out.
Makes him look too normal.
652
00:43:14,781 --> 00:43:16,783
Your boy's alive.
653
00:43:19,484 --> 00:43:22,689
Thank you. Thank you.
654
00:43:30,263 --> 00:43:31,698
Okay.
655
00:43:35,234 --> 00:43:38,098
I wanted to thank you, Steve.
656
00:43:40,598 --> 00:43:41,996
For what?
657
00:43:42,107 --> 00:43:44,710
Taking care of everyone when I was down.
658
00:43:46,513 --> 00:43:48,014
And for not leaving.
659
00:43:48,882 --> 00:43:51,551
I know you've been having your doubts.
660
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:53,620
I understand.
661
00:43:54,654 --> 00:43:58,824
Heck... I've had my own, too.
662
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:11,705
- You need something?
- Yeah.
663
00:44:13,439 --> 00:44:15,908
Glass of milk would be nice.
664
00:44:18,277 --> 00:44:22,181
- No, that's for the kids, David.
- I know it is,
665
00:44:22,314 --> 00:44:24,884
but I just escaped death
by the grace of God,
666
00:44:25,018 --> 00:44:28,420
and to be honest with you,
milk would do us good.
667
00:44:28,554 --> 00:44:29,922
No one'll know, Steve.
668
00:44:30,056 --> 00:44:31,591
Glass of milk, I have to admit,
669
00:44:31,723 --> 00:44:33,900
would be pretty good right about now.
670
00:44:33,955 --> 00:44:35,837
That's a yes.
671
00:44:35,895 --> 00:44:38,198
Gonna be the best glass of milk
we've ever had.
672
00:44:46,439 --> 00:44:51,044
They don't give a shit about those kids.
When are you gonna see it?
673
00:44:52,011 --> 00:44:53,478
I see it.
674
00:44:53,612 --> 00:44:56,348
The only thing people like this
respond to is pressure.
675
00:44:56,482 --> 00:44:59,185
Does it feel like they have
any pressure on them to you?
676
00:44:59,951 --> 00:45:03,488
- They sure don't.
- We been here, what, eight days?
677
00:45:03,622 --> 00:45:06,926
The only thing we have to show
for it is, what, 19 people?
678
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,296
We keep up at this rate,
we'll be here till Christmas.
679
00:45:12,864 --> 00:45:14,567
You been letting Gary do his thing.
680
00:45:15,335 --> 00:45:17,838
How 'bout you let me do
a little of mine?
681
00:45:19,898 --> 00:45:21,544
And Bubba might say,
682
00:45:21,568 --> 00:45:23,919
"But ain't they messin'
with young girls in there?"
683
00:45:23,975 --> 00:45:25,978
And I got this to say to Bubba.
684
00:45:27,279 --> 00:45:31,250
The ATF has no jurisdiction
in matters of young girls.
685
00:45:31,384 --> 00:45:35,670
Or sex, or polygamy, or anything
else they're talking about.
686
00:45:35,748 --> 00:45:37,690
It's none of their damn business.
687
00:45:37,824 --> 00:45:39,392
Their business...
688
00:45:39,524 --> 00:45:43,962
is alcohol, tobacco,
and firearms. Period.
689
00:45:45,483 --> 00:45:49,486
And yes, David Koresh did marry
his wife when she was 14.
690
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:51,145
And you might have feelings about that,
691
00:45:51,169 --> 00:45:53,071
just like I have feelings
about that myself.
692
00:45:53,205 --> 00:45:56,141
I have a daughter.
I find the idea reprehensible.
693
00:45:56,275 --> 00:45:58,710
But according to Texas law,
694
00:45:58,844 --> 00:46:03,616
it is legal to marry a 14yearold
if her parents give consent.
695
00:46:04,382 --> 00:46:07,218
Which, again, I am not saying is right.
696
00:46:07,986 --> 00:46:09,855
But I am saying,
if you have a problem with it,
697
00:46:09,989 --> 00:46:12,826
your problem is actually with Texas law.
698
00:46:13,725 --> 00:46:14,794
Not David Koresh.
699
00:46:17,129 --> 00:46:19,465
The Branch Davidians have
hung a sheet outside the window
700
00:46:19,598 --> 00:46:21,100
saying they want the press.
701
00:46:21,234 --> 00:46:23,870
Reporters have their own take
on the sign.
702
00:46:24,002 --> 00:46:26,506
God help us, we are the press!
703
00:46:26,638 --> 00:46:29,752
Siege against the
Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas.
704
00:46:29,815 --> 00:46:31,685
And raise similar questions about the...
705
00:46:31,810 --> 00:46:34,579
I just don't understand why
they won't let us talk to them.
706
00:46:34,714 --> 00:46:36,382
Ma'am, if your son were here right...
707
00:46:36,515 --> 00:46:37,951
No, no. Go back.
708
00:46:38,083 --> 00:46:39,984
Web surrounded this house...
709
00:46:40,118 --> 00:46:41,522
What would you want to tell him?
710
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,785
If you want to look
in the camera and speak to him,
711
00:46:42,809 --> 00:46:44,008
what would you want to say to him?
712
00:46:44,032 --> 00:46:45,201
Do you know her?
713
00:46:46,493 --> 00:46:48,194
That's my mom.
714
00:46:48,326 --> 00:46:50,763
Dave, honey...
715
00:46:52,527 --> 00:46:56,752
I know the last time you were
home, I didn't listen very well.
716
00:46:56,835 --> 00:47:00,339
I... I got my issues
with the Bible and stuff.
717
00:47:01,107 --> 00:47:03,576
And I know that you got a group in there
718
00:47:03,710 --> 00:47:06,813
that you really care about,
and they're like family.
719
00:47:08,681 --> 00:47:12,427
But I'm your family. And you're
the only family I've got.
720
00:47:13,522 --> 00:47:16,537
And if anything ever happened to you,
I don't know what I'd do.
721
00:47:18,056 --> 00:47:20,025
Thank you.
722
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,095
Dave, please? Come out.
723
00:47:23,172 --> 00:47:26,773
And I promise I'm gonna be
a better listener, okay?
724
00:47:28,266 --> 00:47:30,770
I promise I'm gonna be a better mother.
725
00:47:32,944 --> 00:47:35,325
So, please, just come on out.
726
00:47:36,444 --> 00:47:38,747
Thank you. Thank you so much.
727
00:47:40,645 --> 00:47:43,783
- Everyone stay calm.
- What happened?
728
00:48:09,459 --> 00:48:14,459
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