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Woman 2: Billionaire investor Warren Buffett, 7 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:36,535 the second richest man in America. 8 00:00:36,579 --> 00:00:39,204 Man 2: He's estimated to be worth about $62 billion. 9 00:00:39,248 --> 00:00:41,081 That makes him the richest man in the world. 10 00:00:41,125 --> 00:00:43,834 ♪ ♪ 11 00:00:45,713 --> 00:00:49,673 Woman 3: You know, Buffett is not exactly what you might expect. 12 00:00:49,717 --> 00:00:51,216 Woman 4: Even though he's in the money business, 13 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:53,969 he doesn't even own a calculator or a computer. 14 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:55,679 Man 3: He takes the long view, 15 00:00:55,723 --> 00:00:59,224 and it's made him billions, many billions. 16 00:01:01,187 --> 00:01:02,561 Man 4: Maybe you can beat the house, 17 00:01:02,605 --> 00:01:05,564 but I don't think you can beat Warren Buffett. 18 00:01:05,608 --> 00:01:08,484 Man 5: Buffett filed his first tax return at 13 years old. 19 00:01:08,527 --> 00:01:10,319 (man 6 laughs) But he's no average billionaire, Tom. 20 00:01:10,362 --> 00:01:11,820 Tom: No, he certainly isn't, Matt. 21 00:01:11,864 --> 00:01:15,365 Woman 5: He's a $44 billion average Joe. 22 00:01:17,411 --> 00:01:19,077 Man 7: Warren Buffett has an approach 23 00:01:19,121 --> 00:01:22,247 that doesn't make him very popular with his fellow billionaires. 24 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:26,460 Man 8: Warren Buffett, the boy from Nebraska 25 00:01:26,504 --> 00:01:28,712 who grew up to become the Wizard of Omaha. 26 00:01:28,756 --> 00:01:30,714 Man 9: What was it about him that allowed him to become 27 00:01:30,758 --> 00:01:32,716 the richest man in the world? How did he do it? 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,053 ♪ ♪ 29 00:01:39,183 --> 00:01:42,434 (birds chirping) (traffic sounds) 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,275 Warren: 70 years ago, I was in high school. 31 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:53,278 Almost a third as long as the country has been around. (school bell rings) 32 00:01:54,490 --> 00:01:56,031 And when I was in high school, 33 00:01:56,075 --> 00:01:58,116 I really only had two things on my mind... 34 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:00,744 girls and cars. (all laugh) 35 00:02:00,788 --> 00:02:03,455 And-- and I wasn't doing very well with girls, 36 00:02:03,499 --> 00:02:04,623 so we'll talk about cars. 37 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:08,710 But lets just imagine that when we finish, 38 00:02:08,754 --> 00:02:13,757 I'm going to let each one of you pick out the car of your choice. 39 00:02:13,801 --> 00:02:16,009 Sounds good, doesn't it? 40 00:02:16,053 --> 00:02:18,971 Pick it out, any color, you name it, 41 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:22,641 it'll be tied up with a bow, and it'll be at your house tomorrow. 42 00:02:23,978 --> 00:02:26,812 And you say, "Well, what's the catch?" 43 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:29,982 And the catch is... 44 00:02:30,025 --> 00:02:33,443 that it's the only car you're going to get in your lifetime. 45 00:02:33,487 --> 00:02:37,447 Now what are you going to do, knowing that that's the only car 46 00:02:37,491 --> 00:02:39,867 you're ever going to have and you love that car? 47 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:43,120 You're going to take care of it like you cannot believe. 48 00:02:43,956 --> 00:02:45,873 Now what I'd like to suggest 49 00:02:45,916 --> 00:02:48,625 is that you're not going to get only one car in your lifetime, 50 00:02:48,669 --> 00:02:51,920 but you're gonna get one body and one mind, 51 00:02:51,964 --> 00:02:53,755 and that's all you're going to get. 52 00:02:53,799 --> 00:02:57,801 And that body and mind feels terrific now, 53 00:02:57,845 --> 00:02:59,678 but it has to last you a lifetime. 54 00:03:03,809 --> 00:03:05,100 I'm on the way to the office. 55 00:03:05,144 --> 00:03:07,311 It's all of a five-minute drive. 56 00:03:08,397 --> 00:03:09,688 Been doing it... 57 00:03:10,733 --> 00:03:14,651 for 54 years. 58 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:17,571 One of the good things about this five-minute drive 59 00:03:17,615 --> 00:03:22,701 is that on the way there's a McDonald's, so I'll pick up something. 60 00:03:25,456 --> 00:03:27,623 Woman on speaker: Good morning, thank you for choosing McDonald's. 61 00:03:27,666 --> 00:03:29,041 Go ahead and order whenever you're ready. 62 00:03:29,084 --> 00:03:33,378 I'll have a Sausage McMuffin with egg and cheese. 63 00:03:33,422 --> 00:03:35,088 Woman: Anything else? That's it, thank you. 64 00:03:35,132 --> 00:03:39,801 Warren: Yeah, and I tell my wife as I shave in the morning, 65 00:03:39,845 --> 00:03:44,514 I say either $2.61, $2.95, or $3.17, (coins clinking) 66 00:03:44,558 --> 00:03:48,060 and she puts that amount in a little cup by me here 67 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:51,563 and that determines which of three breakfasts I get. 68 00:03:51,607 --> 00:03:54,483 Hi. 2.95. Okay, 2.95. 69 00:03:54,526 --> 00:03:55,776 There's the two. How you doing, sir! 70 00:03:55,819 --> 00:03:58,445 Hey, great! You're on "Candid Camera"! 71 00:03:58,489 --> 00:04:01,031 I see. Hello, everybody! (both laugh) 72 00:04:01,075 --> 00:04:02,866 Warren: When I'm not feeling quite so prosperous, 73 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:06,411 I might go with a 2.61, which is two sausage patties, 74 00:04:06,455 --> 00:04:10,040 and then I put 'em together and pour myself a Coke. 75 00:04:10,084 --> 00:04:12,125 (beeping) 76 00:04:12,169 --> 00:04:15,545 Hi, how are you? Hi. I've been good. 77 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:19,257 3.17 is a bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit, 78 00:04:19,301 --> 00:04:21,885 but the market's down this morning, 79 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:26,014 so I think I'll pass up the 3.17 and go with the 2.95. 80 00:04:26,058 --> 00:04:28,725 ♪ ♪ 81 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:31,979 (faucet running) 82 00:04:32,022 --> 00:04:35,232 Warren: I like numbers. 83 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,859 It started before I could remember. 84 00:04:37,903 --> 00:04:40,404 (clicks, ticking) 85 00:04:40,447 --> 00:04:42,698 It just felt good, working with numbers. 86 00:04:45,244 --> 00:04:47,744 I was always playing around with numbers in one-way or another. 87 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:50,122 And it was fun to have a bunch of guys over 88 00:04:50,165 --> 00:04:53,542 and have them betting on which marble would reach the drain first. 89 00:04:53,585 --> 00:04:55,752 (clicks) 90 00:04:55,796 --> 00:04:57,462 I had a lot of energy as a kid. (laughs) 91 00:04:57,506 --> 00:05:00,841 I-- I was inquisitive, and I was the youngest one 92 00:05:00,884 --> 00:05:02,551 always in the class, 'cause I'd skip. 93 00:05:02,594 --> 00:05:05,137 I've always been competitive. 94 00:05:06,348 --> 00:05:07,764 (kids playing) 95 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:09,891 I liked to read more than most kids. 96 00:05:09,935 --> 00:05:12,769 I really like to read a lot. 97 00:05:12,813 --> 00:05:15,522 My Aunt Edie gave me a copy of "The World Almanac" 98 00:05:15,566 --> 00:05:17,399 and that was heaven to me. 99 00:05:17,443 --> 00:05:23,071 And I can still tell you that Omaha's population was 214,006 in 1930. 100 00:05:23,115 --> 00:05:25,782 Some numbers just kind of stick with you. 101 00:05:25,826 --> 00:05:29,077 And very early, probably when I was seven or so, 102 00:05:29,121 --> 00:05:31,413 I took this book out of the Benson Library 103 00:05:31,457 --> 00:05:33,623 called "A Thousand Ways to Make a $1,000." 104 00:05:35,753 --> 00:05:37,794 And one of the ways in this book 105 00:05:37,838 --> 00:05:40,630 was having penny weighing machines. 106 00:05:43,177 --> 00:05:46,219 And I sat and calculated how much it would cost 107 00:05:46,263 --> 00:05:47,554 to buy the first weighing machine, 108 00:05:47,598 --> 00:05:49,097 and then how long it would take for the profit 109 00:05:49,141 --> 00:05:51,475 from that one to buy another one, and I would sit there 110 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:53,477 and create these compound interest tables 111 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,145 to figure out how long it would take me to have 112 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:56,897 a weighing machine for every person in the world. 113 00:05:56,940 --> 00:05:58,815 (thunks, clatters) 114 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:01,902 I had everybody in the country weighing themselves ten times a day, 115 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:04,821 and me just sitting there like John D. Rockefeller of weighing machines. 116 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:05,947 (chuckles) 117 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:11,119 The allowance when I was a little boy was a nickel a week, 118 00:06:11,163 --> 00:06:16,625 but I liked the idea of having a little more than a nickel a week to work with, 119 00:06:16,668 --> 00:06:18,543 and I went into business very early. 120 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:22,422 I started selling Coca-Cola door to door. 121 00:06:22,466 --> 00:06:23,799 I sold gum door to door. 122 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:25,425 I sold "Saturday Evening Post," 123 00:06:25,469 --> 00:06:27,469 "Liberty" magazine, "Ladies Home Journal," you name it. 124 00:06:29,932 --> 00:06:32,516 I think I enjoyed the game almost right from the start. 125 00:06:34,603 --> 00:06:37,521 But I like being my own boss. 126 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:39,523 That's one thing I liked about delivering papers. 127 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:42,400 I could arrange the route I wanted. 128 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:45,403 Nobody was bothering me at 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning. 129 00:06:49,618 --> 00:06:52,035 (bicycle bell chimes) I was delivering 500 papers a day, 130 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:55,205 and I made a penny a paper, but in terms of compounding, 131 00:06:55,249 --> 00:06:57,457 that penny's turned into something else. 132 00:06:57,501 --> 00:07:01,711 ♪ ♪ 133 00:07:02,756 --> 00:07:05,048 (scraping) 134 00:07:06,635 --> 00:07:09,094 Einstein is reputed to have said that "Compound interest 135 00:07:09,138 --> 00:07:11,221 is the eighth wonder of the world" or something like that, 136 00:07:11,265 --> 00:07:15,517 and it goes back to that story you probably learned when you were in grade school 137 00:07:15,561 --> 00:07:17,769 where somebody did something for the king, 138 00:07:17,813 --> 00:07:19,396 and the king said, "What can I do for you?" 139 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:22,274 And he said, "Well, lets take a chessboard 140 00:07:22,317 --> 00:07:25,193 "and put one kernel of wheat on the first square 141 00:07:25,237 --> 00:07:26,945 "and then double it on the second 142 00:07:26,989 --> 00:07:28,780 and double it on the third." 143 00:07:28,824 --> 00:07:31,366 And the king readily agreed to it, and by the time he figured out 144 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:34,661 what two to the 64th amounted to, 145 00:07:34,705 --> 00:07:36,788 he was giving away the entire kingdom. 146 00:07:36,832 --> 00:07:41,459 So it's a pretty simple concept, but over time, 147 00:07:41,503 --> 00:07:44,129 it accomplishes extraordinary things. (elevator beeping) 148 00:07:48,552 --> 00:07:50,010 (elevator dings, doors open) 149 00:07:50,053 --> 00:07:52,179 Berkshire is an amazing company. 150 00:07:52,222 --> 00:07:55,765 Fourth largest company in the "Fortune" 500. 151 00:07:55,809 --> 00:07:59,853 He is the only person who has ever, from scratch, 152 00:07:59,897 --> 00:08:04,482 built a company that is in the top 10 of the Fortune 500. 153 00:08:04,526 --> 00:08:07,986 (microwave opens, closes) 154 00:08:08,030 --> 00:08:09,946 (beeps, humming) (phone rings) 155 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:12,699 Woman: Berkshire Hathaway. Fine, thank you. 156 00:08:12,743 --> 00:08:15,452 Warren: Well, Berkshire is a holding company of sorts. 157 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:19,456 It owns a large number of separate businesses 158 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:22,083 that operate independently of each other 159 00:08:22,127 --> 00:08:26,004 and, to a great extent, from the parent company, Berkshire Hathaway. 160 00:08:28,383 --> 00:08:31,176 (man speaks indistinctly on TV) 161 00:08:31,220 --> 00:08:33,303 All right, well, we're going to get more from you in a second. 162 00:08:33,347 --> 00:08:36,223 Warren: So we have maybe 70, maybe 80 businesses, 163 00:08:36,266 --> 00:08:39,559 and we ask them to behave in a way 164 00:08:39,603 --> 00:08:41,436 that doesn't hurt our reputation 165 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,813 at Berkshire Hathaway, but they run their own lives. 166 00:08:46,777 --> 00:08:50,320 Other people do most of the decorating in the office, so various things come in. 167 00:08:52,115 --> 00:08:55,617 Originally, when I moved in in 1962... 168 00:08:56,745 --> 00:08:58,161 you can see this-- 169 00:08:58,205 --> 00:09:01,081 I went down to the South Omaha Library, 170 00:09:01,124 --> 00:09:05,043 and I think for a dollar, I got seven copies 171 00:09:05,087 --> 00:09:07,837 of old "New York Times" 172 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:11,800 from big times like the Panic of 1907. 173 00:09:11,843 --> 00:09:14,678 This is one-- 1929 obviously. 174 00:09:14,721 --> 00:09:17,097 But I wanted to put on the walls 175 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:19,891 days of extreme panic in Wall Street, 176 00:09:19,935 --> 00:09:23,520 just as a reminder that anything can happen in this world. 177 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:24,604 I mean it-- 178 00:09:24,648 --> 00:09:26,731 it's instructive art you can call it. 179 00:09:27,609 --> 00:09:30,068 ♪ ♪ 180 00:09:35,492 --> 00:09:38,618 I was born in 1930 here in Omaha, Nebraska, 181 00:09:38,662 --> 00:09:39,911 during the stock market crash. 182 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,419 My dad lost his job in 1931, a year after I was born. 183 00:09:49,339 --> 00:09:50,839 He was a stock salesman, 184 00:09:50,882 --> 00:09:53,341 and he had what little savings he had in the bank, 185 00:09:53,385 --> 00:09:55,468 and so he started his own company. 186 00:09:55,512 --> 00:09:57,053 He worked right through the depression. 187 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:59,222 ♪ ♪ 188 00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:04,853 Bertie Buffett: He had an investment company, 189 00:10:04,896 --> 00:10:06,229 and as an adult when I looked back, 190 00:10:06,273 --> 00:10:08,940 I thought, "Wow, did that ever take a lot of nerve." 191 00:10:10,569 --> 00:10:12,402 Sometimes we'd go down there on Sunday, 192 00:10:12,446 --> 00:10:14,446 and we could play with the adding machine. 193 00:10:16,158 --> 00:10:19,200 My brother and I tended to play the games together. 194 00:10:19,244 --> 00:10:22,203 And I remember at one point he said to me, 195 00:10:22,247 --> 00:10:27,000 "I'm going to be a millionaire by the time I'm... 30," or something like that. 196 00:10:27,044 --> 00:10:30,253 It was totally outside of anything my family had experienced, 197 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:32,630 but he just was unusual that way. 198 00:10:36,595 --> 00:10:38,011 Doris Buffett: Well, I was the oldest, 199 00:10:38,055 --> 00:10:40,096 and then my brother and then my sister. 200 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:43,099 And my father would go to New York periodically 201 00:10:43,143 --> 00:10:45,643 to check on businesses, stocks, and things like that, 202 00:10:45,687 --> 00:10:47,771 and he'd come back, he'd always have a costume 203 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:50,106 for each of us, and Warren loved it. 204 00:10:51,318 --> 00:10:54,486 He was very good-natured. He was quiet. 205 00:10:54,529 --> 00:10:56,738 It was hard to tell he was a genius at that point, 206 00:10:56,782 --> 00:10:58,823 but I mean, who was looking? 207 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:01,659 (clock ticking) 208 00:11:03,622 --> 00:11:05,580 Warren: The first books I read on investment 209 00:11:05,624 --> 00:11:07,499 were actually in my dad's office. 210 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:09,584 (clock chiming) 211 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:11,586 Pretty soon, I read all the books in the office 212 00:11:11,630 --> 00:11:13,671 and read some of them more than once. 213 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:17,759 My dad had various nicknames for me. 214 00:11:17,803 --> 00:11:19,636 He'd call me "Fireball" sometimes, 215 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,471 because I'd start little businesses. 216 00:11:21,515 --> 00:11:24,516 He didn't care about money at all. 217 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,394 He believed very much in having an inner scorecard 218 00:11:27,437 --> 00:11:30,563 and never worry about what other people are thinking about you. 219 00:11:30,607 --> 00:11:32,899 You know, just-- just-- 220 00:11:32,943 --> 00:11:36,820 if you know why you're doing what you're doing, that's good enough. 221 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:39,239 I admired everything about him to the extent 222 00:11:39,282 --> 00:11:42,492 that I was absorbing lessons from him without knowing it. 223 00:11:42,536 --> 00:11:46,204 And the idea that all lives have equal value is something that 224 00:11:46,248 --> 00:11:49,040 all three of his children felt since I can remember. 225 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:52,752 (patriotic music playing) 226 00:11:52,796 --> 00:11:54,838 My dad at one point ran for congress 227 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:56,548 when I was 12 or so. 228 00:11:57,634 --> 00:11:59,717 It was a very republican household. 229 00:11:59,761 --> 00:12:02,512 I campaigned for him. My sisters campaigned for him. 230 00:12:02,556 --> 00:12:03,972 The whole family did. 231 00:12:07,644 --> 00:12:10,645 My mother was very, very bright, 232 00:12:10,689 --> 00:12:13,565 and she was very gregarious. She was a good campaigner for my dad. 233 00:12:15,193 --> 00:12:18,236 Bertie: She had a lot of ambition, 234 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,197 and I think my brother Warren got a lot 235 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:26,077 of his extreme competitiveness from my mother, actually. 236 00:12:27,289 --> 00:12:28,997 Doris: She was brilliant at math. 237 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,124 You know, I guess they still had these things 238 00:12:31,168 --> 00:12:32,959 where you crank them and things added up, 239 00:12:33,003 --> 00:12:35,962 and she could add it in her head faster than the machine could do it. 240 00:12:36,006 --> 00:12:38,423 She was absolutely amazing in that. 241 00:12:40,177 --> 00:12:42,719 Warren: She was very dutiful about taking care of the kids, 242 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:45,263 but you didn't get the same feeling of-- of love. 243 00:12:45,307 --> 00:12:48,600 It was there, but it just-- it didn't come out the same way as with my dad. 244 00:12:50,896 --> 00:12:53,521 Howard Buffett, Sr. on radio: In the nation, the only permanent way 245 00:12:53,565 --> 00:12:56,566 to prosperity is a balanced budget. 246 00:12:56,610 --> 00:12:59,110 Unless that goal is achieved, 247 00:12:59,154 --> 00:13:03,740 all post-war plans will collapse like Hitler's conquest. 248 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:06,409 Man on radio: You have heard Congressman Howard L.H. Buffett, 249 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:08,495 a Republican member of the House of Representatives 250 00:13:08,538 --> 00:13:09,829 from Nebraska speaking on the-- 251 00:13:09,873 --> 00:13:11,539 Warren: When I was about 12 or 13, 252 00:13:11,583 --> 00:13:14,834 we moved to Washington, my family, and I was mad. 253 00:13:14,878 --> 00:13:17,879 I was having fun in Omaha, and I lost all my friends, 254 00:13:17,923 --> 00:13:20,715 and now I moved to a town where they were all strange, 255 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,177 and so I was very, very unhappy. 256 00:13:24,221 --> 00:13:26,471 ♪ ♪ 257 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:30,475 At school, I just lost interest. 258 00:13:31,937 --> 00:13:34,145 I took pleasure in tormenting my teachers. 259 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:40,818 At that time for example, AT&T was the stock 260 00:13:40,862 --> 00:13:43,071 that all teachers owned for their retirement, 261 00:13:43,114 --> 00:13:46,866 and I decided that it would drive my teachers a little crazy 262 00:13:46,910 --> 00:13:49,494 if I went and short the stock, because when you go short a stock, 263 00:13:49,538 --> 00:13:52,121 you're betting that it will go down. (school bell rings) 264 00:13:52,165 --> 00:13:54,207 So I shorted 10 shares of AT&T, 265 00:13:54,251 --> 00:13:56,292 (chuckling) and then brought the confirmation to school 266 00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:58,294 and showed these teachers I was shorting the stock. 267 00:13:59,548 --> 00:14:01,172 They found me a big pain in the neck, 268 00:14:01,216 --> 00:14:03,049 but they did think I knew a lot about stocks. 269 00:14:03,093 --> 00:14:04,676 ♪ ♪ 270 00:14:07,305 --> 00:14:11,766 And then at home, my mother would have terrific headaches, 271 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:14,435 and you didn't want to be around her when she was having the headaches, 272 00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:17,355 and she would-- she would lash out more. She would never do it in public. 273 00:14:19,317 --> 00:14:20,984 Doris: Well, I think we were terrified of her. 274 00:14:21,027 --> 00:14:22,694 ♪ ♪ 275 00:14:22,737 --> 00:14:24,195 When I'd wake up in the morning, 276 00:14:24,239 --> 00:14:26,447 I'd listen to hear her voice. I could tell by her voice 277 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:29,742 if it was going to be a terrible day or not. 278 00:14:29,786 --> 00:14:32,537 Warren: When she got difficult, the three children felt it. 279 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:39,043 When I was at the low point, sort of, I decided that I would run away. 280 00:14:41,089 --> 00:14:43,840 So I talked two other guys into running away with me. 281 00:14:45,552 --> 00:14:47,385 We went out, and we start hitchhiking... 282 00:14:48,847 --> 00:14:50,888 and then we got picked up by the highway patrol 283 00:14:50,932 --> 00:14:53,725 and that scared the hell out of us. (police radio chatter) 284 00:14:56,354 --> 00:14:59,897 It's very interesting. My dad never really gave me hell about doing this, 285 00:14:59,941 --> 00:15:01,441 but he finally said, "You know," 286 00:15:01,484 --> 00:15:04,485 he said, "you can do better than this." 287 00:15:04,529 --> 00:15:07,572 And just saying that, I mean, I-- 288 00:15:07,616 --> 00:15:09,824 I felt like I was letting him down, basically. 289 00:15:09,868 --> 00:15:12,952 So in all ways, he was teaching me. 290 00:15:12,996 --> 00:15:15,121 Never taught by telling me things, 291 00:15:15,165 --> 00:15:17,123 he just taught by example. 292 00:15:17,167 --> 00:15:20,335 He had unlimited confidence in me, even when I screwed up, 293 00:15:20,378 --> 00:15:23,546 and that takes you a long, long way. 294 00:15:27,052 --> 00:15:29,010 The best gift I was ever given 295 00:15:29,054 --> 00:15:31,554 was to have the father that I had when I was born. 296 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,439 I didn't want to go to college. I was 16 when I got out of high school 297 00:15:41,483 --> 00:15:43,483 and I was buying stocks. 298 00:15:43,526 --> 00:15:45,401 I mean, I actually was having a pretty good time 299 00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:48,363 and I didn't see that really was much to be gained by going to college, 300 00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:50,114 but my dad kind of jollied me into it. 301 00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:52,492 ♪ ♪ 302 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:54,535 Doris: He had a roommate who was a friend of mine, 303 00:15:54,579 --> 00:15:56,871 and the roommate said it would just drive him crazy, 304 00:15:56,915 --> 00:15:58,623 because he studied all the time, 305 00:15:58,667 --> 00:16:01,876 and Warren would come in 15 minutes before the exam 306 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,380 and just ace his way through it. 307 00:16:05,423 --> 00:16:08,091 Warren: I finished in three years, 'cause I had enough credits, 308 00:16:08,134 --> 00:16:10,426 and I was in a hurry. I wanted to get out. 309 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:12,470 (birds chirping) 310 00:16:14,599 --> 00:16:16,349 Warren: When I got out of the University of Nebraska, 311 00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:19,185 I applied to Harvard Business school. 312 00:16:19,229 --> 00:16:23,147 They told me I was to get interviewed in a place near Chicago. 313 00:16:23,191 --> 00:16:27,193 I got there, and he interviewed me for about 10 minutes, 314 00:16:27,237 --> 00:16:29,237 and he said, "Forget it." 315 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,947 (laughs) "You're not going to Harvard." 316 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,574 And so now I'm thinking, "What do I tell my dad? 317 00:16:33,618 --> 00:16:36,744 Oh, this is terrible." And it turned out to be 318 00:16:36,788 --> 00:16:38,121 the best thing that ever happened to me. 319 00:16:38,164 --> 00:16:39,956 Later that summer, 320 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:41,916 I was looking through a catalog 321 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,628 and in the catalog, it had these names of people that were teaching, 322 00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:48,631 and one was Graham and another was Dodd. 323 00:16:48,675 --> 00:16:51,426 I had read this book by the two of them, 324 00:16:51,469 --> 00:16:53,261 so I wrote him a letter in mid-August, 325 00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:56,431 and I said, "Dear Professor Dodd," 326 00:16:56,474 --> 00:16:58,933 I said, "I thought you guys were dead." 327 00:16:58,977 --> 00:17:01,978 (students laugh) "But, now that I found out that you're alive 328 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,731 and teaching at Columbia, I would really like to come." 329 00:17:04,774 --> 00:17:07,316 And he admitted me. So, you know what? 330 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,027 That-- it just shows, you never can tell. 331 00:17:10,071 --> 00:17:13,781 ♪ ♪ 332 00:17:16,661 --> 00:17:18,786 Man: Gentlemen, Professor Graham. 333 00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:20,580 Warren: Ben was this incredible teacher. 334 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:23,958 I mean he-- he was a natural, and he drew us all in. 335 00:17:24,002 --> 00:17:25,752 Are Wall Street professionals-- 336 00:17:25,795 --> 00:17:30,423 they more accurate in the shorter term than the long term forecast? 337 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:35,762 Well, our studies indicate that you have your choice between tossing coins... 338 00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:38,723 and taking the consensus of expert opinions, 339 00:17:38,767 --> 00:17:41,976 and the results are just about the same in each case. 340 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:43,311 (people laugh) 341 00:17:43,354 --> 00:17:44,729 Warren: It was like learning baseball 342 00:17:44,773 --> 00:17:47,106 from a fellow who's batting .400. (laughs) 343 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:49,567 It really-- it shaped my professional life. 344 00:17:52,447 --> 00:17:55,615 There are two rules of investing according to Warren, 345 00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:58,034 and he learned this from Ben Graham. 346 00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:00,369 ♪ ♪ (clicking) 347 00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:04,707 Rule number one, never lose money. 348 00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:08,252 Rule number two, never forget rule number one. 349 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:14,550 Ben Graham basically coined the term "value investing." 350 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:17,386 He believed in careful scrutiny 351 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:20,223 of a company's financial statements, 352 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:24,435 and that if you bought value, it would eventually prove out. 353 00:18:27,482 --> 00:18:30,566 A few years ago, I went to Amazon, 354 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:32,068 and sure enough, they had this manual there, 355 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:36,239 so while reliving my youth-- other guys were going to Amazon 356 00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:39,826 and probably buying old "Playboys" or something, 357 00:18:39,869 --> 00:18:41,953 but I bought old Moody's manuals instead, 358 00:18:41,996 --> 00:18:45,706 and when I got out of school, I started selling stocks, 359 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:47,542 (chuckles) I was 20 years old at the time, 360 00:18:47,585 --> 00:18:49,961 looked about 16, and acted about 12, 361 00:18:50,004 --> 00:18:53,965 so I was not the most impressive salesperson anybody ever met. 362 00:18:54,008 --> 00:18:57,218 But what I would do was I went through, page by page, 363 00:18:57,262 --> 00:19:00,263 looking for possibly undervalued stocks. 364 00:19:02,058 --> 00:19:04,350 Peter Kunhardt: Is this like going through an old family album? 365 00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:06,185 Better! (both laugh) 366 00:19:06,229 --> 00:19:08,604 ♪ ♪ 367 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,276 When I got out of business school at Columbia, 368 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:16,696 I developed pretty decent skills in terms of business, 369 00:19:16,739 --> 00:19:20,116 but I hadn't really come to terms with the world exactly. 370 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,953 Kunhardt: What were you like around girls back then? 371 00:19:23,997 --> 00:19:28,374 Bad. I was-- I was sort of out of the swing of things there for a while. 372 00:19:29,878 --> 00:19:33,629 I went to my 60th reunion, and there was a girl there. 373 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:37,466 I took her out one time to the Uptown Theater in Washington, 374 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:40,136 and I asked her whether she remembered what movie we saw, 375 00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:41,929 and she said, "No, I don't remember that." 376 00:19:41,973 --> 00:19:44,432 And then she said, "But I do remember one thing." 377 00:19:44,475 --> 00:19:46,684 And like an idiot, I said, "What was that?" 378 00:19:46,728 --> 00:19:48,603 And she said, "Well, you picked me up in a hearse." 379 00:19:48,646 --> 00:19:50,313 And it was true that I owned 380 00:19:50,356 --> 00:19:52,732 a half-interest in a hearse while I was in high school, 381 00:19:52,775 --> 00:19:54,775 which was not the smoothest thing that-- 382 00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,402 or coolest, as they would say now-- 383 00:19:56,446 --> 00:19:58,863 that you could-- you could do on a date. 384 00:20:02,577 --> 00:20:05,453 There were two turning points in my life. 385 00:20:05,496 --> 00:20:06,913 Once when I came out of the womb, 386 00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:08,497 and once when I met Susie, basically. (laughs) 387 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:12,501 ♪ ♪ 388 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,295 She was the girl, yep. 389 00:20:16,049 --> 00:20:17,298 But it took her a little longer 390 00:20:17,342 --> 00:20:19,634 to figure out I was the boy. (laughs) 391 00:20:22,513 --> 00:20:24,305 Susie Buffett: I was going to be 392 00:20:24,349 --> 00:20:27,391 his youngest sister's roommate at Northwestern. 393 00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:31,354 So I walk into their house, he was sitting in this chair, 394 00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:35,232 and he made some sarcastic quip. 395 00:20:35,276 --> 00:20:38,486 So I made one back. I thought, "Who is this jerk?" 396 00:20:38,529 --> 00:20:39,820 ♪ ♪ 397 00:20:39,864 --> 00:20:41,822 And that's how we met, yes. 398 00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:47,954 Listen, Warren is smarter than you even know. 399 00:20:47,997 --> 00:20:50,915 His brain is going all the time. 400 00:20:50,959 --> 00:20:53,542 And my dad said to me, 401 00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,836 "Now you have to understand about him-- 402 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,047 "you're not going to have discussions with him 403 00:20:58,091 --> 00:21:00,007 "like you would most normal people, 404 00:21:00,051 --> 00:21:02,510 but he has a heart of gold." 405 00:21:04,514 --> 00:21:06,681 He was just totally enamored of her, 406 00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:09,266 and why not? And she of him. 407 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:12,728 She'd sit on his lap all the time, and he'd stroke her hair. 408 00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:15,106 It was softening him. 409 00:21:16,567 --> 00:21:19,652 Susie was really kind, considerate, 410 00:21:19,696 --> 00:21:21,779 and she was the balancing force. 411 00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:27,994 Warren: I just got very, very, very lucky. 412 00:21:28,037 --> 00:21:30,079 But I was a lopsided person, 413 00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:32,498 and it took a while, but she just stood there 414 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:35,459 with a little watering can 415 00:21:35,503 --> 00:21:39,588 and just nourished me along and-- and changed me. 416 00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:42,341 ♪ ♪ 417 00:21:42,385 --> 00:21:45,094 Somebody once said that the chains of habit 418 00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:48,639 are too light to be felt until they're too heavy to be broken. 419 00:21:50,601 --> 00:21:54,020 I had been terrified of public speaking. 420 00:21:54,063 --> 00:21:55,563 I couldn't do it. I'd throw up. 421 00:21:57,025 --> 00:21:59,775 And I knew if I didn't cure it then, I'd never cure it. 422 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:01,861 ♪ ♪ 423 00:22:01,904 --> 00:22:06,032 And so I saw an ad in the paper for the Dale Carnegie Course, 424 00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:09,660 which worked on developing your ability to speak in public, 425 00:22:09,704 --> 00:22:10,870 and I went down there. 426 00:22:10,913 --> 00:22:12,997 Dale Carnegie: Be sincere. 427 00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:15,082 A good smile has the same effect 428 00:22:15,126 --> 00:22:17,001 as a puppy's tail. When a puppy wags-- 429 00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:18,544 Warren: They made us do all these crazy things 430 00:22:18,588 --> 00:22:21,338 to get out of ourselves, and so we stood on tables 431 00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:22,715 and did all kinds of things. 432 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:25,259 (indistinct chatter) 433 00:22:25,303 --> 00:22:28,095 (applause) 434 00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:29,889 Warren: If I hadn't had done that... 435 00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:31,766 my whole life would have been different. 436 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,686 So in my office you will not see 437 00:22:35,730 --> 00:22:37,980 the degree I got from the University of Nebraska. 438 00:22:38,024 --> 00:22:41,025 You will not see the Masters degree I got from Columbia University, 439 00:22:41,069 --> 00:22:43,736 but you'll see the little award certificate 440 00:22:43,780 --> 00:22:45,988 I got from the Dale Carnegie Course. 441 00:22:47,617 --> 00:22:49,867 As a matter of fact, every week, 442 00:22:49,911 --> 00:22:52,578 the instructor would give a pencil 443 00:22:52,622 --> 00:22:56,832 to whoever had done the most with what we'd learned the week before. 444 00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:59,210 And so in the fourth or fifth week, 445 00:22:59,253 --> 00:23:01,629 I proposed to her mother, 446 00:23:01,672 --> 00:23:04,799 and she said yes. And so that week, 447 00:23:04,842 --> 00:23:08,010 I won the pencil, I also got engaged, 448 00:23:08,054 --> 00:23:09,678 and it was an incredible week. (all laugh) 449 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:11,222 ♪ ♪ 450 00:23:15,436 --> 00:23:17,061 Warren: The wedding date was kind of interesting, 451 00:23:17,105 --> 00:23:18,938 because I couldn't see anything without my glasses, 452 00:23:18,981 --> 00:23:20,189 and I was so nervous that I-- 453 00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:22,858 I just decided to take off my glasses 454 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,528 and I wouldn't be able to see all those people out there. 455 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:29,824 ♪ ♪ 456 00:23:32,495 --> 00:23:34,870 She was 19 when we got married and I was 21... 457 00:23:36,833 --> 00:23:40,251 but she was so much more mature than I was. There was no comparison. 458 00:23:45,716 --> 00:23:47,258 She was a better person than I was... 459 00:23:48,803 --> 00:23:50,886 but when you get married, it's not a question of saying, 460 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:53,389 "I'm going to put a 14% factor in for humor, 461 00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:56,809 and 17% for intellect, and 22% for looks." 462 00:23:56,853 --> 00:23:59,520 It doesn't work that way. 463 00:23:59,564 --> 00:24:02,690 I knew it was the right decision, and-- and it was. 464 00:24:02,733 --> 00:24:06,569 (bells tolling) 465 00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:13,826 Woman: You could live anywhere in the world. 466 00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:15,327 Why do you choose Omaha, Nebraska? 467 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:18,205 Yeah, I love it, and I-- you know, I was... 468 00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:21,041 born about a mile from here and, you know, 469 00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:23,210 I've never had a bad experience in Omaha. 470 00:24:23,254 --> 00:24:26,714 ♪ ♪ 471 00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:38,142 Well, Omaha and Nebraska are home to me. 472 00:24:40,605 --> 00:24:42,396 Everything about it seems like home. 473 00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:48,944 It's a pace, it's relationships. 474 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:52,031 There's a lot of continuity. There's a lot of community. 475 00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:53,574 There's a lot of friendship. 476 00:24:53,618 --> 00:24:56,118 It's a very solid place and friendly place 477 00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:58,829 in which to grow up in, in which to conduct a business. 478 00:25:03,753 --> 00:25:07,463 When I came back to Omaha in early 1956, 479 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,340 I had no idea what I was going to do. 480 00:25:11,052 --> 00:25:14,011 A few months after I came back, some members of the family said, 481 00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:15,221 "What should we do with our money?" 482 00:25:15,264 --> 00:25:16,639 And I said, "Well, I'm not going back 483 00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:18,098 "in the business of selling stocks, 484 00:25:18,142 --> 00:25:20,351 but if you would like to join me in a partnership," 485 00:25:20,394 --> 00:25:21,602 I said, "I'll be glad to do it." 486 00:25:21,646 --> 00:25:23,938 So within a couple of months after coming back, 487 00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:25,564 I set up the first partnership. 488 00:25:25,608 --> 00:25:27,775 ♪ ♪ (ticking) 489 00:25:32,448 --> 00:25:34,323 I wrote all the checks individually. 490 00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,325 I filed 11 income-tax returns. 491 00:25:36,369 --> 00:25:39,203 I took delivery on stocks for all these different companies. 492 00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:42,456 I-- I was a one-man band there for six years. 493 00:25:46,462 --> 00:25:49,630 Sandy Gottesman: Warren would sit upstairs in his little office there, 494 00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:52,466 and I would bring up the name of a company, 495 00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:54,009 and most of the time he knew 496 00:25:54,053 --> 00:25:55,678 much more than I did about the company. 497 00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:57,888 He'd know how many shares were outstanding. 498 00:25:57,932 --> 00:26:00,140 He'd know the capitalization. He'd know the earnings. 499 00:26:00,184 --> 00:26:03,602 It was absolutely incredible. 500 00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:06,689 I mean when Warren said something, it meant a heck of a lot, 501 00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:09,650 and I think all of us paid a lot of attention to Warren 502 00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:12,736 when he took a definite stand on something. 503 00:26:14,657 --> 00:26:18,742 Charlie Munger: When I first met Warren back in 1959, 504 00:26:18,786 --> 00:26:20,327 I recognized immediately 505 00:26:20,371 --> 00:26:23,664 that he was a very intelligent person. 506 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:25,541 For the last four or five years, 507 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,334 the stock market has been booming along 508 00:26:27,378 --> 00:26:29,962 and presumably forecasting better business, 509 00:26:30,006 --> 00:26:31,588 which has really not materialized, 510 00:26:31,632 --> 00:26:34,133 so maybe the stock market is really correcting 511 00:26:34,176 --> 00:26:36,302 a previous incorrect forecast this time 512 00:26:36,345 --> 00:26:38,262 rather than making a new correct one. 513 00:26:38,306 --> 00:26:42,725 He made a lot of money buying thinly traded securities 514 00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:46,103 that were incredibly cheap statistically. 515 00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:47,604 ♪ ♪ (lighter flicks) 516 00:26:47,648 --> 00:26:49,732 (cigar sizzles) 517 00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:51,150 Loomis: Warren was, at that time, 518 00:26:51,193 --> 00:26:52,860 dealing with small companies, 519 00:26:52,903 --> 00:26:56,739 and his investments often were to buy a company 520 00:26:56,782 --> 00:27:00,075 that you could figure was a discarded cigar butt, 521 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,910 but it had one more smoke in it, 522 00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:04,997 and he wanted to buy at the right time 523 00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:08,584 to be able to benefit from the one smoke. 524 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:12,171 The first partnership started with $105,100. 525 00:27:12,214 --> 00:27:15,257 I put up the 100, and the other people put up the 105,000. 526 00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:19,845 And then at the start of 1962, I moved to Kiewit Plaza. 527 00:27:19,889 --> 00:27:22,556 And by the time I moved to Kiewit Plaza, 528 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,558 we had $7 million invested, 529 00:27:24,602 --> 00:27:26,769 and a fair amount was profits. 530 00:27:26,812 --> 00:27:30,898 ♪ ♪ (birds chirping) 531 00:27:30,941 --> 00:27:34,318 I was then renting a house. I never owned a house to that point. 532 00:27:35,571 --> 00:27:36,904 And then two years later, 533 00:27:36,947 --> 00:27:40,240 I bought the house I live in today in 1958. 534 00:27:48,292 --> 00:27:50,250 We had three children, Susie and I. 535 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:55,631 And we had 'em young, incidentally, 536 00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,216 which was I think was a very good thing. 537 00:27:57,259 --> 00:27:59,760 ♪ ♪ 538 00:28:02,807 --> 00:28:04,765 My daughter Susie was born here. 539 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,644 I named her Susie just like that, as soon as I looked at her, 540 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,062 because she looked just like her mother, 541 00:28:10,106 --> 00:28:14,358 ♪ ♪ 542 00:28:14,402 --> 00:28:16,193 And she was a cinch. 543 00:28:19,323 --> 00:28:23,826 And then Howie was, you know, this absolute bundle of energy... 544 00:28:25,287 --> 00:28:27,371 which made things very difficult 545 00:28:27,415 --> 00:28:29,456 for big Susie for a while. 546 00:28:32,753 --> 00:28:35,504 Peter again reverted back to Susie's personality, 547 00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:37,214 and he was an easy child. 548 00:28:42,471 --> 00:28:44,555 Howard Buffett: Well, I would describe my childhood as normal, 549 00:28:44,598 --> 00:28:46,723 but who knows what normal is? 550 00:28:46,767 --> 00:28:48,267 People often think, 551 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:50,936 "Well, Warren Buffett was this famous rich guy." 552 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:52,354 He was not famous, and he wasn't rich 553 00:28:52,398 --> 00:28:53,522 when we were growing up. 554 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:55,566 ♪ ♪ 555 00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:59,486 What I saw first and foremost, 556 00:28:59,530 --> 00:29:02,614 day in and day out, was consistency. 557 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:05,951 Every day we hear the garage door close in the house 558 00:29:05,995 --> 00:29:09,371 and then like clockwork, my dad would come in the door, 559 00:29:09,415 --> 00:29:12,708 "I'm home!" and we'd all eat dinner together, 560 00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,918 which I think surprises a lot of people. 561 00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,257 Susie Buffett, Jr.: My dad, he used to rock me to sleep at night 562 00:29:20,301 --> 00:29:22,843 and sing "Over the Rainbow," so I have 563 00:29:22,887 --> 00:29:27,264 this insanely sentimental attachment to that song. 564 00:29:27,308 --> 00:29:29,183 I've always had a really close relationship with him. 565 00:29:29,226 --> 00:29:32,019 ♪ ♪ 566 00:29:35,316 --> 00:29:36,690 Warren: I've got three very different kids, 567 00:29:36,734 --> 00:29:38,984 and they've got a common heart, 568 00:29:39,028 --> 00:29:40,569 which they got from their mother. 569 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,990 She did most of the work by far 570 00:29:45,034 --> 00:29:46,325 of bringing up the children, 571 00:29:46,368 --> 00:29:47,743 which is probably a good thing. 572 00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:49,870 (laughs) They have more of her qualities than mine, 573 00:29:49,914 --> 00:29:52,247 which I would-- I would recommend. 574 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,042 Howard: Well, my mom was 575 00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:57,628 the biggest part of my life growing up... 576 00:29:57,671 --> 00:30:00,380 even though I got disciplined on a regular basis 577 00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:02,049 and she was usually the one doing it, 578 00:30:02,092 --> 00:30:04,051 she was still my best friend. 579 00:30:04,094 --> 00:30:06,303 She was somebody who would help anybody, 580 00:30:06,347 --> 00:30:08,138 I mean, whether she knew 'em or didn't know 'em 581 00:30:08,182 --> 00:30:11,475 or maybe even didn't agree with them, she would still help them. 582 00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:15,187 Warren: She was incredibly empathetic, 583 00:30:15,231 --> 00:30:19,566 and she was interested in every person individually. 584 00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:23,445 She never cared about money or business at all. 585 00:30:23,489 --> 00:30:24,988 Susie: I mean he would go around saying, 586 00:30:25,032 --> 00:30:28,951 "I'm going to be the richest man in the world." 587 00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:31,370 And I think, well, it's like somebody says, 588 00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:34,081 "I play music, and I'm gonna be Mozart." 589 00:30:34,124 --> 00:30:37,668 I don't know. How does anyone know... 590 00:30:38,546 --> 00:30:40,712 How does anyone know? You know? 591 00:30:40,756 --> 00:30:44,967 So that was okay. I don't really care about that. 592 00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:48,595 Loomis: I would say that Susie led Warren 593 00:30:48,639 --> 00:30:50,764 toward changing his political views. 594 00:30:50,808 --> 00:30:52,599 He grew up as a young Republican, 595 00:30:52,643 --> 00:30:55,519 his father was a Republican congressman, 596 00:30:55,563 --> 00:30:58,647 but Susie saw things in different ways. 597 00:30:58,691 --> 00:31:00,440 She was the catalyst. 598 00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:04,152 (crowd chanting) Freedom, freedom, freedom! 599 00:31:04,196 --> 00:31:06,863 (man shouts) Louder, louder, louder, louder, louder! 600 00:31:06,907 --> 00:31:10,492 Freedom, freedom... (man shouts) What do we want now? 601 00:31:10,536 --> 00:31:12,494 Susie: When the children were growing up, 602 00:31:12,538 --> 00:31:15,581 I was very involved in civil rights. 603 00:31:15,624 --> 00:31:20,627 I was immersed in it, and I think that's what made Warren a Democrat. 604 00:31:20,671 --> 00:31:24,214 He would go with me to hear speakers. 605 00:31:24,258 --> 00:31:25,799 (applause, cheers) 606 00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:28,427 Warren: I remember that speech that Martin Luther King gave. 607 00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:32,431 That was one of the most inspiring speeches I-- I've ever heard. 608 00:31:32,474 --> 00:31:34,516 I come to say to you this afternoon... 609 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,852 Warren: Took me right out of my seat. My wife was with me. 610 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:38,520 We both had the same experience. 611 00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:40,647 Martin Luther King: It will not be long. It was interesting, he-- 612 00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:44,568 in that speech, he talked about truth forever on the scaffold, 613 00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:49,906 long forever on the throne, but that scaffold sways the future. 614 00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,284 Well, he was going to be dead in six months, 615 00:31:52,328 --> 00:31:54,369 but that scaffold did sway the future. 616 00:31:56,373 --> 00:31:58,206 My wife was more active than I was, 617 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,375 but I was 100% with her mentally. 618 00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:05,672 I was just working a little more on my own investments. 619 00:32:05,716 --> 00:32:07,466 But it didn't make a difference what we were gonna do 620 00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:09,051 with the money after we made it. 621 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:11,011 I thought I would pile it up over the years 622 00:32:11,055 --> 00:32:15,015 then she would unpile it in terms of running a-- 623 00:32:15,059 --> 00:32:17,225 one very large foundation. 624 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:20,437 And I was particularly good at compounding money, 625 00:32:20,481 --> 00:32:23,482 and therefore society would benefit by waiting. 626 00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:25,692 ♪ ♪ 627 00:32:27,321 --> 00:32:30,989 I was genetically blessed with certain wiring 628 00:32:31,033 --> 00:32:33,700 that's very useful in a highly-developed market system 629 00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:35,702 where there's lots of chips on the table, 630 00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:38,455 and you know, I happen to be good at that game. 631 00:32:38,499 --> 00:32:40,707 (scratching) 632 00:32:40,751 --> 00:32:42,959 Ted Williams wrote a book called "The Science of Hitting," 633 00:32:43,003 --> 00:32:45,754 and in it he had a picture of himself at bat 634 00:32:45,798 --> 00:32:50,717 and the strike zone broken into, I think, 77 squares. 635 00:32:50,761 --> 00:32:52,761 And he said, if he waited for the pitch 636 00:32:52,805 --> 00:32:55,639 that was really in his sweet spot, he would bat .400 637 00:32:55,683 --> 00:32:58,308 and if he had to swing at something on the lower corner, 638 00:32:58,352 --> 00:33:01,019 he would probably bat .235. 639 00:33:01,063 --> 00:33:04,147 And in investing, I'm in a no-called strike business, 640 00:33:04,191 --> 00:33:06,441 which is the best business you can be in. 641 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:08,402 I can look at a thousand different companies, 642 00:33:08,445 --> 00:33:12,155 and I don't have to be right on every one of them or even 50 of 'em... 643 00:33:13,659 --> 00:33:15,534 so I can pick the ball I want to hit. 644 00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:17,661 (baseball bat cracks) (crowd cheering) 645 00:33:17,705 --> 00:33:22,374 And the trick in investing is just to sit there and watch pitch after pitch to go by 646 00:33:22,418 --> 00:33:24,334 and wait for the one right in your sweet spot. 647 00:33:24,378 --> 00:33:26,920 And the people that are yelling, "Swing, you bum"? Ignore 'em. 648 00:33:28,298 --> 00:33:31,508 There's a temptation for people to act 649 00:33:31,552 --> 00:33:33,135 far too frequently in stocks, 650 00:33:33,178 --> 00:33:35,762 simply because they're so liquid. 651 00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:38,432 Over the years you develop a lot of filters, 652 00:33:38,475 --> 00:33:41,435 and I do know what I call my circle of competence, 653 00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:43,895 so I-I-- I stay within that circle, 654 00:33:43,939 --> 00:33:47,566 and I don't worry about things that are outside that circle. 655 00:33:47,609 --> 00:33:49,693 Defining what your game is, 656 00:33:49,737 --> 00:33:53,405 where you're going to have an edge is enormously important. 657 00:33:53,449 --> 00:33:56,908 (film projector clicking, beeping) 658 00:33:56,952 --> 00:34:01,455 ♪ ♪ 659 00:34:01,498 --> 00:34:04,458 I bought the first shares of Berkshire in 1962, 660 00:34:04,501 --> 00:34:06,668 and it was a northern textile business 661 00:34:06,712 --> 00:34:08,545 destined to become extinct eventually, 662 00:34:08,589 --> 00:34:13,175 and it was a statistically cheap stock in a terrible business. 663 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,387 Berkshire Hathaway was closing mills 664 00:34:17,431 --> 00:34:20,807 and as they closed mills, it would free up some capital, 665 00:34:20,851 --> 00:34:23,101 and then they would repurchase shares, 666 00:34:23,145 --> 00:34:24,936 so I bought some stock with the idea 667 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:27,564 that there would be another tender offer at some point, 668 00:34:27,608 --> 00:34:30,692 and we would sell the stock at a modest profit. 669 00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:33,278 And at one point, 670 00:34:33,322 --> 00:34:36,239 the management asked me at what price we would tender our stock, 671 00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:38,033 and I said, "$11.50." 672 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,077 ♪ ♪ 673 00:34:41,121 --> 00:34:43,830 And the tender offer came out a few months later, 674 00:34:43,874 --> 00:34:48,376 and it was at $11 and 3/8ths, 675 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,420 which was an eighth of a point cheaper. 676 00:34:51,465 --> 00:34:52,923 And that made me very mad, 677 00:34:52,966 --> 00:34:55,967 so I just started buying more stock. (laughs) 678 00:34:56,011 --> 00:34:59,387 I just felt that I'd been double-crossed by the management. 679 00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:02,224 And in May of 1965, 680 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:04,684 I bought enough so we controlled the company, 681 00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:06,520 and we changed the management. 682 00:35:13,153 --> 00:35:15,195 It was a pretty silly way to behave, 683 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,282 as Warren has recounted in retrospect. 684 00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:20,951 One of the reasons Warren is successful 685 00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:23,787 is he's brutal in appraising his own past. 686 00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:28,625 He wants to identify misthinkings and avoid them in the future, 687 00:35:28,669 --> 00:35:31,753 but it was an accident that he chose Berkshire Hathaway. 688 00:35:31,797 --> 00:35:34,840 If the chairman hadn't tried to cheat him out of an eighth, 689 00:35:34,883 --> 00:35:38,593 there wouldn't have been any Buffett- Berkshire Hathaway history. 690 00:35:41,431 --> 00:35:44,558 Warren: If you're emotional about investment, you're not going to do well. 691 00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:46,476 You may have all these feelings about the stock. 692 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,604 (chuckles) The stock has no feelings about you. 693 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,690 Looking back, it's interesting, that tender offer-- 694 00:35:51,733 --> 00:35:55,986 I didn't realize it, but it-- it happened about five days after my dad had died 695 00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:58,738 and whether that had affected me or not, I don't know. 696 00:35:58,782 --> 00:36:01,241 ♪ ♪ 697 00:36:03,203 --> 00:36:06,246 Kunhardt: Do you remember your last conversation with your father? 698 00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:08,498 Yeah, but I don't want to talk about it. 699 00:36:15,799 --> 00:36:18,633 Munger: I think it just sobered him and hurt him, 700 00:36:19,636 --> 00:36:21,011 but... 701 00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:24,848 Warren soldiers on. 702 00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:31,438 Both Warren and I could look at our fathers 703 00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:34,608 and see what they did right and what they did wrong. 704 00:36:34,651 --> 00:36:39,362 Warren's father was a real old-fashioned right-wing ideologue. 705 00:36:40,532 --> 00:36:42,782 And his father was so intense about it, 706 00:36:42,826 --> 00:36:46,161 that Warren just decided that it was mistake-- 707 00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:49,539 it cabbaged up your head to be that much an ideologue, 708 00:36:49,583 --> 00:36:52,500 so he loved his father, but he didn't want to become 709 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:55,712 that much of a true believer in-- in anything. 710 00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:03,428 My politics became more overt after my dad died. 711 00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,472 ♪ ♪ 712 00:37:05,515 --> 00:37:07,724 Civil rights changed my views. 713 00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:10,477 You know, in 1776 Thomas Jefferson wrote, 714 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,146 "All men are created equal," and then when they wrote the Constitution, 715 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:15,148 they all of a sudden decided that, no, 716 00:37:15,192 --> 00:37:17,192 it was just 3/5ths of a person if you were black. 717 00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:18,485 I mean, that struck me as kind of crazy. 718 00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,404 ♪ ♪ 719 00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:25,033 Susie: I was talking to him one day about some racial issue, 720 00:37:25,077 --> 00:37:29,579 and he said to me, "Wait till women discover 721 00:37:29,623 --> 00:37:31,998 they're the slaves of the world." 722 00:37:33,335 --> 00:37:37,087 Now how many men were cognizant of that, 723 00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:39,005 and even women then? 724 00:37:41,343 --> 00:37:43,718 Warren: The initial example is really my mother. 725 00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:45,804 She came from a generation 726 00:37:45,847 --> 00:37:47,973 where the main function of the wife 727 00:37:48,016 --> 00:37:50,266 was to help her husband in the job. 728 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:55,146 And my sisters are fully as smart as I am. 729 00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:57,232 They got better personalities than I had, 730 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,693 but they got the message a million different ways 731 00:37:59,736 --> 00:38:02,237 that their future was limited, 732 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,906 and I got the message that the sky is the limit 733 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:08,368 and it wasn't due to a lack of love or anything of the sort. 734 00:38:08,412 --> 00:38:10,036 It just-- it was the culture. 735 00:38:12,082 --> 00:38:13,498 On the other hand, you can look 736 00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:15,375 at the flip side of that and say it's quite encouraging, 737 00:38:15,419 --> 00:38:17,335 because if you look at what this country accomplished 738 00:38:17,379 --> 00:38:19,045 only using half of its talent, 739 00:38:19,089 --> 00:38:20,880 just think of the potential for the future. 740 00:38:20,924 --> 00:38:23,216 I'm enormously bullish on America over the future 741 00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:24,843 and part of the reason is that we, 742 00:38:24,886 --> 00:38:27,262 by some rather stupid decisions, 743 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:30,015 essentially put half our talent on the sidelines. 744 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:35,353 Loomis: Warren is probably the most rational person I've ever met. 745 00:38:35,397 --> 00:38:38,773 Charlie Munger would be a close rival. 746 00:38:38,817 --> 00:38:40,734 And Charlie became a man 747 00:38:40,777 --> 00:38:44,362 that Warren depended on heavily 748 00:38:44,406 --> 00:38:47,282 and I think his first experiences 749 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,993 in the discarded- cigar-butt era 750 00:38:50,037 --> 00:38:54,748 convinced him that it was not exactly where he wanted to be. 751 00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:56,916 Munger: He made so much money for so long 752 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,294 doing what he'd been taught by Ben Graham, 753 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,796 which he'd buy these very cheap stocks. 754 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,631 If they were cheap enough, he didn't care it was 755 00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:05,508 a lousy company and a lousy management. 756 00:39:05,552 --> 00:39:10,013 He knew he was going to make money anyway, just because of the cheapness. 757 00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:12,599 Warren: Charlie Munger has had a big impact on me 758 00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:17,645 in moving me toward looking for wonderful companies at fair prices 759 00:39:17,689 --> 00:39:20,482 rather than fair companies at wonderful prices. 760 00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:24,652 That was enormously important, because it enabled Berkshire to scale up in a way 761 00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:27,614 that would have been impossible to do otherwise. 762 00:39:28,825 --> 00:39:31,534 Yep? Man: What are the key indicators 763 00:39:31,578 --> 00:39:35,246 you'd look for within companies before making an investment? 764 00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:38,041 Well, I look for something that does give them a moat around it. 765 00:39:38,085 --> 00:39:41,419 ♪ ♪ (water sloshing) 766 00:39:41,463 --> 00:39:44,130 We have a company called See's Candies out on the west coast. 767 00:39:44,174 --> 00:39:47,217 See's Candies Boxed Chocolates. 768 00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:51,262 If you give a box of See's chocolates to your girlfriend 769 00:39:51,306 --> 00:39:54,933 on the first date and she kisses you? (giggles, kisses) 770 00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:56,684 We own you. You know? I mean we-- 771 00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:58,228 we can raise the price tomorrow. 772 00:39:58,271 --> 00:39:59,521 I mean, you'll buy the same box. 773 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:01,106 You're not gonna fool around with success, 774 00:40:01,149 --> 00:40:04,067 so the key there is the response. 775 00:40:04,111 --> 00:40:07,278 You do not want to get home on Valentine's Day 776 00:40:07,322 --> 00:40:09,280 and say to your wife or your sweetheart-- 777 00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:11,866 preferably they're the same person-- 778 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:14,577 you don't say, "Here, honey, I took the low bid." 779 00:40:14,621 --> 00:40:16,204 It doesn't work. 780 00:40:16,248 --> 00:40:19,082 Price is-- to a degree, is immaterial. 781 00:40:19,126 --> 00:40:21,626 If you've got an economic castle, 782 00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:24,254 people are gonna come and wanna take that castle away from you. 783 00:40:24,297 --> 00:40:26,172 You better have a strong moat. 784 00:40:26,216 --> 00:40:28,675 You better have a knight in the castle that knows what he's doing. 785 00:40:30,178 --> 00:40:31,761 You're not buying an asset, 786 00:40:31,805 --> 00:40:34,013 you're buying a name, you're buying a brand, 787 00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:36,933 you're buying a real franchise here, 788 00:40:36,977 --> 00:40:41,729 and Charlie was more responsible for that than anybody. 789 00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:44,566 ♪ ♪ 790 00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:46,151 Warren: We were mental partners 791 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:48,736 right from the moment we met. 792 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,613 Woman: I wanna know, going back 50 years, 793 00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:53,199 what it was like when you first met Warren. 794 00:40:53,243 --> 00:40:54,784 Well, I thought he was a prodigy... 795 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:57,579 and I got a lot of criticism. 796 00:40:57,622 --> 00:41:00,790 My wife said, "Why are you paying such enormous respect 797 00:41:00,834 --> 00:41:02,375 "to that young man with a crew cut 798 00:41:02,419 --> 00:41:06,671 who won't eat vegetables?" (all laugh) 799 00:41:06,715 --> 00:41:08,423 Warren: He's ungodly smart. 800 00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:11,384 He's got a much broader intellect than I do, 801 00:41:11,428 --> 00:41:14,095 and he's magnificent at being able 802 00:41:14,139 --> 00:41:17,849 to condense important ideas into just a very few words. 803 00:41:17,893 --> 00:41:22,854 If you're not interested in the economic scene right now, 804 00:41:22,898 --> 00:41:24,647 you're mentally dead. 805 00:41:24,691 --> 00:41:26,357 Charlie has no tact. 806 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,443 Woman: All right, let's talk a little bit about bankers. 807 00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:31,571 Charlie, on Friday, compared them to heroin addicts. 808 00:41:31,615 --> 00:41:33,239 Yeah, well, that's colorful Charlie, 809 00:41:33,283 --> 00:41:35,325 but I would not have chosen that. 810 00:41:35,368 --> 00:41:37,285 Loomis: I once wrote of him 811 00:41:37,329 --> 00:41:38,912 that when they handed out humility, 812 00:41:38,955 --> 00:41:40,997 he didn't get his fair share. 813 00:41:41,041 --> 00:41:45,043 The ideal way to run a headquarters is to have one man, 814 00:41:45,086 --> 00:41:47,378 preferably over 80, 815 00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:50,048 sitting in an office by himself. 816 00:41:50,091 --> 00:41:53,509 Anything else is pure frippery. 817 00:41:53,553 --> 00:41:55,553 Warren: He's always honest in what he tells me, 818 00:41:55,597 --> 00:41:57,347 so I-- I listen to him. 819 00:41:59,643 --> 00:42:01,184 Munger: We never had an argument. 820 00:42:02,187 --> 00:42:03,478 We just... 821 00:42:05,148 --> 00:42:08,566 We just kinda roll with it easily. 822 00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:12,403 Suppose Warren doesn't wanna do something that I would've done, 823 00:42:12,447 --> 00:42:16,658 and suppose that happens four times over 40 years or something. 824 00:42:16,701 --> 00:42:18,826 What the hell difference does it make to me? 825 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:20,620 ♪ ♪ 826 00:42:20,664 --> 00:42:22,830 Net, the record is working out is fine. 827 00:42:27,629 --> 00:42:32,090 Both of us know that we've done better by having ethics. 828 00:42:32,133 --> 00:42:33,675 Warren's not interested 829 00:42:33,718 --> 00:42:35,385 in making money by cheating people. 830 00:42:36,596 --> 00:42:38,429 (chattering) (phone ringing) 831 00:42:38,473 --> 00:42:39,764 Loomis: Warren's opinions 832 00:42:39,808 --> 00:42:42,350 of Wall Street investment bankers 833 00:42:42,394 --> 00:42:45,687 would not endear him to their mothers. 834 00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:48,982 He feels that they're, for the most part, 835 00:42:49,025 --> 00:42:50,942 not out for their clients. 836 00:42:50,986 --> 00:42:54,070 They're out for their own business interests. 837 00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:58,700 Warren: In the late 1960s, there were just a flood 838 00:42:58,743 --> 00:43:02,161 of accounting shenanigans and mergers 839 00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:05,832 built upon false accounting and misleading people. 840 00:43:05,875 --> 00:43:08,751 It was a time when a lot of charlatans 841 00:43:08,795 --> 00:43:10,670 were prevailing in Wall Street 842 00:43:10,714 --> 00:43:12,588 and were being applauded by Wall Street. 843 00:43:12,632 --> 00:43:14,841 I understood what the game was about, 844 00:43:14,884 --> 00:43:16,426 but I didn't want to play in it, 845 00:43:16,469 --> 00:43:20,513 so I closed down the partnership at the end of 1969, 846 00:43:20,557 --> 00:43:24,058 and I took on the title of Chairman for Berkshire Hathaway. 847 00:43:24,102 --> 00:43:27,353 ♪ ♪ 848 00:43:27,397 --> 00:43:29,314 Munger: Well, I think the modern Berkshire 849 00:43:29,357 --> 00:43:31,316 is pretty much all a reflection of Warren. 850 00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:34,110 ♪ ♪ 851 00:43:34,154 --> 00:43:39,032 I have constructed a business that fits me. 852 00:43:39,075 --> 00:43:42,076 It's kind of crazy to spend your life painting 853 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,995 if you're painting a subject you don't want to look at. 854 00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:47,206 I've gotten to paint my own painting in business 855 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,625 on an unlimited canvas in a way. 856 00:43:51,588 --> 00:43:53,212 It's a different sort of place. 857 00:43:54,966 --> 00:43:56,466 I work with a great group of people 858 00:43:56,509 --> 00:43:59,761 that make my life very easy and that take good care of me. 859 00:43:59,804 --> 00:44:01,929 Come. Okay. 860 00:44:03,224 --> 00:44:05,767 We have 25 people in the office, 861 00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:11,147 and if you go back, it's the exact same 25, the exact same ones. 862 00:44:12,692 --> 00:44:14,942 We don't have any committees at Berkshire. 863 00:44:14,986 --> 00:44:16,819 We don't have a public relations department. 864 00:44:16,863 --> 00:44:19,155 We don't have investor relations. We don't have a general council. 865 00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,199 We don't have a human relations department. 866 00:44:21,242 --> 00:44:25,161 We just don't go for anything that people do just as a matter of form. 867 00:44:26,456 --> 00:44:28,206 It's exactly the life I like, 868 00:44:28,249 --> 00:44:31,042 and it's not work to me. 869 00:44:31,086 --> 00:44:33,086 It's just a form of play, basically. 870 00:44:34,214 --> 00:44:36,172 (crowd cheers, laughs) 871 00:44:37,175 --> 00:44:39,133 (clock ticking) 872 00:44:42,472 --> 00:44:44,597 Oh, I-- I like things quiet. (chuckles) 873 00:44:44,641 --> 00:44:46,349 I shut the door, actually, at the office, 874 00:44:46,393 --> 00:44:49,102 'cause I don't want to hear anybody talking outside. 875 00:44:49,145 --> 00:44:50,770 Woman on TV: Broad distinctions between his views 876 00:44:50,814 --> 00:44:52,230 and the belt-tightening proposals. 877 00:44:52,273 --> 00:44:54,232 Warren: And I still probably spend 878 00:44:54,275 --> 00:44:55,858 five or six hours a day reading. 879 00:44:55,902 --> 00:44:57,360 Woman on TV: ...look at what's trending today. 880 00:44:57,404 --> 00:44:58,986 Our quick round-up... 881 00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:01,030 Howard: Well, what's amazing is the stuff he remembers. 882 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,450 It's like a little computer, you know? 883 00:45:04,494 --> 00:45:07,328 I keep thinking the hard drive will run out of space, but it doesn't. 884 00:45:09,791 --> 00:45:12,041 Melinda Gates: He's one of the smartest people we know. 885 00:45:12,085 --> 00:45:13,793 So I was at a couple of the family dinners 886 00:45:13,837 --> 00:45:15,837 at the Gates house where Mary, Bill's mom, 887 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,380 was trying to convince him to come out 888 00:45:17,424 --> 00:45:19,382 to the family place at Hood Canal 889 00:45:19,426 --> 00:45:21,926 to meet Warren Buffett, and he was resisting 890 00:45:21,970 --> 00:45:23,553 because he was really busy with Microsoft. 891 00:45:23,596 --> 00:45:26,848 And finally he said, "Mom, okay, I'll come for lunch." 892 00:45:26,891 --> 00:45:28,975 ♪ ♪ 893 00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:30,977 Bill Gates: So the two of us flew out there 894 00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:32,895 somewhat reluctantly, 'cause you know, 895 00:45:32,939 --> 00:45:35,648 buying and selling stocks-- which is how I thought of Warren-- 896 00:45:35,692 --> 00:45:39,819 wasn't of particular interest to me and didn't seem like value added. 897 00:45:39,863 --> 00:45:42,155 It turned out that was completely wrong. 898 00:45:42,198 --> 00:45:45,575 We knew that day that we'd be very close friends. 899 00:45:45,618 --> 00:45:48,619 In fact, we just couldn't get enough of each other. 900 00:45:48,663 --> 00:45:50,246 ♪ ♪ 901 00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:52,081 Warren: Shortly after I met Bill Gates, 902 00:45:52,125 --> 00:45:54,917 Bill's dad asked each of us to write down on a piece of paper 903 00:45:54,961 --> 00:45:58,254 one word that would best describe what had helped us the most. 904 00:45:58,298 --> 00:46:00,798 Bill and I, without any collaboration at all, 905 00:46:00,842 --> 00:46:02,258 each wrote the word "focus." 906 00:46:02,302 --> 00:46:04,469 ♪ ♪ (scratching) 907 00:46:04,512 --> 00:46:09,265 Well, focus has always been a strong part of my personality. 908 00:46:09,309 --> 00:46:11,476 If I get interested in something, I get really interested. 909 00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,312 If I get interested in a new subject, I want to read about it, 910 00:46:14,355 --> 00:46:17,440 I want to talk about it, and I want to meet people that are involved in it. 911 00:46:19,819 --> 00:46:21,360 Bill: We both love to work hard. 912 00:46:21,404 --> 00:46:24,572 You know, neither of us like frivolous things. 913 00:46:24,616 --> 00:46:26,073 You know he doesn't know much about cooking, 914 00:46:26,117 --> 00:46:30,870 or art, or... (chuckles) a huge range of things. 915 00:46:30,914 --> 00:46:35,041 I can't tell you the color of the walls in my bedroom or my living room. 916 00:46:35,084 --> 00:46:36,709 (muffled) We're on a satellite phone. 917 00:46:36,753 --> 00:46:39,170 I don't have a mind that relates to the physical universe well. 918 00:46:39,214 --> 00:46:41,047 Man: Warren checking the DOW. 919 00:46:41,090 --> 00:46:44,717 But the business universe I-- I think I understand reasonably well. 920 00:46:46,179 --> 00:46:49,597 Warren's ability to size up people and businesses, 921 00:46:49,641 --> 00:46:52,016 it's a pretty magical thing. 922 00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:54,810 He is the best at that, anybody we know. (laughing) 923 00:46:54,854 --> 00:46:58,481 We-- we should all try to be 20% as-- as good at that. 924 00:47:03,279 --> 00:47:04,487 Warren: I like to sit and think, 925 00:47:04,531 --> 00:47:06,948 and I spend a lot of time doing that. 926 00:47:06,991 --> 00:47:09,575 And sometimes it's pretty unproductive but-- 927 00:47:09,619 --> 00:47:13,913 but I find it enjoyable to think about-- 928 00:47:13,957 --> 00:47:15,206 particularly about-- about business 929 00:47:15,250 --> 00:47:16,958 or investment problems. They're easy. 930 00:47:17,001 --> 00:47:19,043 It's the human problems that are the tough ones. 931 00:47:19,087 --> 00:47:21,420 Sometimes there aren't any good answers with human problems. 932 00:47:21,464 --> 00:47:23,923 There's-- there's almost always a good answer with money. 933 00:47:23,967 --> 00:47:24,966 (chuckles) 934 00:47:25,009 --> 00:47:28,094 (clock ticking) 935 00:47:28,137 --> 00:47:31,013 (clock chiming) 936 00:47:31,057 --> 00:47:34,183 ♪ ♪ (chiming fades) 937 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,522 Susie: He was sort of a genius. 938 00:47:40,733 --> 00:47:43,067 I think sometimes geniuses are, 939 00:47:43,111 --> 00:47:47,196 by default, lonely and isolated. 940 00:47:50,743 --> 00:47:54,036 He was not really well adjusted. 941 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,998 He was just this funny-- 942 00:47:57,041 --> 00:48:01,127 I mean, humorous guy who maybe had a moat around him, 943 00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:05,756 because he was afraid and he didn't know anyone 944 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,175 that he wanted to let in. 945 00:48:08,219 --> 00:48:10,678 (faucet runs) 946 00:48:10,722 --> 00:48:14,890 And to this day, I mean, I don't know... 947 00:48:16,394 --> 00:48:18,352 Well, nobody knows him like I do, 948 00:48:18,396 --> 00:48:21,856 and probably any wife would say that, but... 949 00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:24,650 ♪ ♪ 950 00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:29,697 Howard: He's a loner in a sense. 951 00:48:29,741 --> 00:48:32,742 And it's difficult to connect on an emotional level, 952 00:48:32,785 --> 00:48:37,580 because I think that that's not his basic mode of operation. 953 00:48:39,334 --> 00:48:43,169 He was there... physically, 954 00:48:43,212 --> 00:48:46,839 but he was upstairs reading all the time. 955 00:48:49,385 --> 00:48:53,095 I always told my mother we have to talk in sound bytes. (chuckles) 956 00:48:53,139 --> 00:48:57,600 I learned that early on, that if you start going into some long thing, 957 00:48:57,644 --> 00:49:00,561 unless you've explained to him ahead of time that it's going to be a long thing 958 00:49:00,605 --> 00:49:04,690 and you need him to hang in there, you lose him. 959 00:49:04,734 --> 00:49:06,942 You lose him to whatever giant thought 960 00:49:06,986 --> 00:49:08,819 he has in his head at the time 961 00:49:08,863 --> 00:49:11,572 that he was probably thinking about before you came in 962 00:49:11,616 --> 00:49:13,366 and really wants to get back to. 963 00:49:13,409 --> 00:49:16,285 ♪ ♪ 964 00:49:17,914 --> 00:49:20,164 Peter: He's not like the rest of us. 965 00:49:20,208 --> 00:49:23,376 I don't think my dad ever took anybody for granted, 966 00:49:23,419 --> 00:49:26,128 but you are a little bit blind, I think, 967 00:49:26,172 --> 00:49:29,423 sometimes to what other people might be doing behind the scenes, 968 00:49:29,467 --> 00:49:32,134 and my dad's gotten a little bit of a pass. 969 00:49:32,178 --> 00:49:34,929 ♪ ♪ 970 00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:37,306 Susie: Warren can't find the light switch, 971 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:39,433 and it's probably my fault. 972 00:49:39,477 --> 00:49:43,104 One time, years ago when the kids were little, 973 00:49:43,147 --> 00:49:45,356 I was feeling really sick. I had the flu, 974 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,400 so I lay down on the bed, and I said to Warren, 975 00:49:47,443 --> 00:49:50,653 "Will you get me a pan? Or something from the kitchen. 976 00:49:50,697 --> 00:49:53,864 I may not get to the bathroom. I feel so sick." 977 00:49:53,908 --> 00:49:57,785 He said, "Okay." So he trottles down to the kitchen, 978 00:49:57,829 --> 00:50:01,622 and I hear this bang, bip, boom, bang! 979 00:50:01,666 --> 00:50:05,751 And he comes up, and he brings me a colander. 980 00:50:05,795 --> 00:50:09,922 I looked at it, and I said, "Look, honey, this has holes in it." 981 00:50:09,966 --> 00:50:13,259 "Oh, oh, okay." So he ran down, 982 00:50:13,302 --> 00:50:16,137 all this banging and everything. 983 00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:20,641 And he comes up and he puts the colander on a cookie sheet. 984 00:50:25,648 --> 00:50:30,192 Physical proximity to Warren doesn't always mean that he's there with you. 985 00:50:30,236 --> 00:50:33,237 ♪ ♪ 986 00:50:33,281 --> 00:50:35,698 He's so cerebral, you see? 987 00:50:39,454 --> 00:50:41,746 That's why I learned to have my own life. 988 00:50:41,789 --> 00:50:44,623 We were two parallel lines and-- 989 00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:48,794 but very connected when he was open to connecting. 990 00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:54,467 Susie Jr.: I did make a joke at one point. I said, you know, 991 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:56,719 we could make a tape of Mom yelling, 992 00:50:56,763 --> 00:50:58,721 "Bye, Warren, I'll be back later!" 993 00:50:58,765 --> 00:51:03,100 And then have the door slam, and he would just think she was here. 994 00:51:03,144 --> 00:51:05,519 I don't think he knew what she was doing most of the time. 995 00:51:05,563 --> 00:51:08,481 ♪ ♪ 996 00:51:08,524 --> 00:51:10,316 Once Howie and I were both gone, 997 00:51:10,359 --> 00:51:14,278 as we've gotten older, she started to see the writing on the wall here 998 00:51:14,322 --> 00:51:16,489 and just started trying to figure out 999 00:51:16,532 --> 00:51:18,699 how she could at least have some more, 1000 00:51:18,743 --> 00:51:20,951 as she called it, a room of her own. 1001 00:51:20,995 --> 00:51:25,498 ♪ ♪ 1002 00:51:28,211 --> 00:51:30,377 Warren: The worst mistakes involve 1003 00:51:30,421 --> 00:51:33,589 not understanding other people as well as you might. 1004 00:51:36,511 --> 00:51:39,386 (clock ticking) 1005 00:51:43,810 --> 00:51:46,769 Well, she left Omaha in 1977, 1006 00:51:46,813 --> 00:51:50,272 and there really isn't much to say about that. 1007 00:51:51,859 --> 00:51:55,110 (wind blowing) (rustling) 1008 00:51:59,575 --> 00:52:03,577 It was devastating for him, and I came home, 1009 00:52:03,621 --> 00:52:08,582 because I-I-- I can't say I was mad at her exactly, 1010 00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:11,669 but I kept thinking, "How can you leave him? 1011 00:52:11,712 --> 00:52:16,465 He's so-- (laughs) he can't function by himself." 1012 00:52:16,509 --> 00:52:20,886 So my mother-- she'd asked a bunch of her friends 1013 00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:25,057 to sort of look in on him, and Astrid was one of them. 1014 00:52:25,101 --> 00:52:27,476 Susie: So I called Astrid. I said, "Astrid, 1015 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,812 "will you take Warren-- make him some soup? 1016 00:52:29,856 --> 00:52:32,022 "Go over there and look after him, 1017 00:52:32,066 --> 00:52:34,733 because he's not gonna make it." 1018 00:52:34,777 --> 00:52:38,904 And it took him a while to figure it out, but he figured it out. 1019 00:52:38,948 --> 00:52:41,156 I said, "I'm not leaving you, 1020 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,577 because I'll be wherever you want me when you want me." 1021 00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:47,037 (gulls cawing) 1022 00:52:47,081 --> 00:52:48,998 Howard: My mom moved to San Francisco, 1023 00:52:49,041 --> 00:52:52,126 and I think one of the reasons it was important for her to leave Omaha 1024 00:52:52,169 --> 00:52:56,297 was because she just felt like she was kinda trapped in this environment, 1025 00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:58,716 that everybody knew who she was, 1026 00:52:58,759 --> 00:53:02,553 that she couldn't have her own identity. 1027 00:53:02,597 --> 00:53:05,222 Peter: He knew that there was something she needed to do 1028 00:53:05,266 --> 00:53:10,811 and that she really recognized that the money gave us all and her 1029 00:53:10,855 --> 00:53:15,024 a choice in a lot of ways that a lot of people didn't have. 1030 00:53:15,067 --> 00:53:18,611 Munger: There was a time Warren was getting criticized. 1031 00:53:18,654 --> 00:53:22,406 Here was this very, very rich man who was getting richer every year, 1032 00:53:22,450 --> 00:53:24,867 and really wasn't giving a lot of money away, 1033 00:53:24,911 --> 00:53:27,912 and there was terrific criticism by some people, 1034 00:53:27,955 --> 00:53:30,289 which Warren never said anything about. 1035 00:53:31,751 --> 00:53:33,792 Warren: The biggest thing in making money is time. 1036 00:53:33,836 --> 00:53:38,172 You don't have to be particularly smart, you just have to be patient. 1037 00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:40,424 Susie didn't want to wait as much as I did, 1038 00:53:40,468 --> 00:53:44,595 but she never quite appreciated compounding like I did. 1039 00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:47,222 Susie: That is a disagreement we have. 1040 00:53:47,266 --> 00:53:49,934 I run a foundation now. 1041 00:53:49,977 --> 00:53:52,978 I think we should be giving more money away, 1042 00:53:53,022 --> 00:53:55,981 but I understand why we don't-- 1043 00:53:56,025 --> 00:53:59,026 because it's... business. 1044 00:53:59,070 --> 00:54:03,489 To me the crux of it is, that it wasn't the money itself. 1045 00:54:03,532 --> 00:54:05,616 You can see that in the way he lives. 1046 00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:09,161 I mean, he doesn't buy huge paintings 1047 00:54:09,205 --> 00:54:11,705 or build big houses or anything like that. 1048 00:54:11,749 --> 00:54:16,377 It's all mental with him, and the money is his scorecard. 1049 00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:18,170 ♪ ♪ 1050 00:54:18,214 --> 00:54:20,547 And he used to say to me, 1051 00:54:20,591 --> 00:54:23,133 "Everybody can read what I read. 1052 00:54:23,177 --> 00:54:25,469 It's a level playing field." 1053 00:54:25,513 --> 00:54:28,097 And he loves that, because he's competitive. 1054 00:54:28,140 --> 00:54:31,767 And he's sitting there all by himself in his office, 1055 00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:35,354 reading these things that everybody else can read, 1056 00:54:35,398 --> 00:54:39,024 but he loves the idea that he's gonna win. Ha! 1057 00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:42,569 (clinking) 1058 00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:44,238 Munger: I'll tell you how you do it. 1059 00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:46,991 Have you ever seen a juggler 1060 00:54:47,034 --> 00:54:49,576 juggle 25 milk bottles? 1061 00:54:49,620 --> 00:54:52,162 How did he ever get to do that? (crowd cheering) 1062 00:54:52,206 --> 00:54:55,124 The answer is he started with one bottle, then two, then three 1063 00:54:55,167 --> 00:54:57,835 and just kept doing it, and pretty soon he was at 25, 1064 00:54:57,878 --> 00:55:00,170 and that's the way we did it. 1065 00:55:00,214 --> 00:55:02,381 So, basically, we started out with cash 1066 00:55:02,425 --> 00:55:05,509 and ended up buying a bunch of businesses, 1067 00:55:05,553 --> 00:55:07,594 including insurance companies. 1068 00:55:07,638 --> 00:55:12,141 Loomis: Insurance is, in itself, a profitable business, 1069 00:55:12,184 --> 00:55:14,852 but it has the additional advantage 1070 00:55:14,895 --> 00:55:17,813 of creating something that's called "float." 1071 00:55:17,857 --> 00:55:21,358 Float is the money that hangs around Berkshire 1072 00:55:21,402 --> 00:55:23,944 while a claim is waiting to be paid. 1073 00:55:23,988 --> 00:55:28,490 And Warren turned out to have a extraordinary ability 1074 00:55:28,534 --> 00:55:31,285 to use the money thrown off by the float 1075 00:55:31,328 --> 00:55:35,080 to buy companies that fed the growth of Berkshire. 1076 00:55:38,044 --> 00:55:41,295 Man: In 1983, Mrs. B cashed in on her business 1077 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:44,673 by selling control for $55 million 1078 00:55:44,717 --> 00:55:47,134 to a company owned by investor Warren Buffett. 1079 00:55:47,178 --> 00:55:49,636 ♪ ♪ 1080 00:55:53,601 --> 00:55:57,561 Loomis: Warren was quite an expert about newspapers. 1081 00:55:57,605 --> 00:55:59,354 He got interested in the "Post," 1082 00:55:59,398 --> 00:56:00,814 because he recognized it 1083 00:56:00,858 --> 00:56:03,859 as a greatly undervalued company. 1084 00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:07,029 Kay Graham: He had to write me a letter. 1085 00:56:07,073 --> 00:56:09,990 "Dear Ms. Graham, I've just bought 5% of your company, 1086 00:56:10,034 --> 00:56:11,784 "and I mean you no harm, 1087 00:56:11,827 --> 00:56:13,660 "and I think it's a great company. 1088 00:56:13,704 --> 00:56:15,704 "I know it's Graham owned and Graham run, 1089 00:56:15,748 --> 00:56:17,331 and that's fine with me." 1090 00:56:17,374 --> 00:56:21,960 And I thought, "Whoa, this guy's really terrific." 1091 00:56:22,004 --> 00:56:26,131 He used to come to board meetings with about 20 annual reports 1092 00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:28,675 and he would take me through these annual reports. 1093 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,513 It was like going to business school with Warren Buffett. 1094 00:56:32,556 --> 00:56:36,517 Kay Graham did introduce Warren to the world of Washington, 1095 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,895 entirely different group than he had ever dealt with before. 1096 00:56:41,732 --> 00:56:45,192 Peter: It was clear that working with Kay 1097 00:56:45,236 --> 00:56:49,321 gave him a different kind of confidence, and he was the star. 1098 00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:52,032 Woman: Everyone wants to hear 1099 00:56:52,076 --> 00:56:53,617 what Warren Buffett has to say. 1100 00:56:53,661 --> 00:56:55,452 Man: The Oracle of Omaha 1101 00:56:55,496 --> 00:56:58,330 building his image and having some fun. 1102 00:56:58,374 --> 00:57:00,707 ♪ ♪ 1103 00:57:00,751 --> 00:57:02,167 Man 2: Berkshire shares have increased 1104 00:57:02,211 --> 00:57:04,336 more than 2,000% in value. 1105 00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:07,089 Man 3: One of the largest market capitalizations in the world, 1106 00:57:07,133 --> 00:57:08,757 and it could grow a lot larger 1107 00:57:08,801 --> 00:57:11,635 since Warren Buffett shows no sign of slowing down. 1108 00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:13,387 Woman 2: So how did he do it? 1109 00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:16,098 By investing in what he knows and understands-- 1110 00:57:16,142 --> 00:57:18,976 good old-fashioned American brands like Coca-Cola, 1111 00:57:19,019 --> 00:57:20,936 Fruit of the Loom, and Dairy Queen. 1112 00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:23,647 What inspired you? This inspired me! (laughs) 1113 00:57:23,691 --> 00:57:25,691 Buy what you like, is that what it is? Yeah absolutely. 1114 00:57:25,734 --> 00:57:28,485 ♪ ♪ 1115 00:57:28,529 --> 00:57:30,988 Today, the Coca-Cola Company will sell 1116 00:57:31,031 --> 00:57:34,908 almost two billion eight-ounce servings 1117 00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:37,411 of one form or another of Coca Cola products. 1118 00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:40,998 Now if you get an extra penny a day, a penny a serving, 1119 00:57:41,041 --> 00:57:42,541 that's $20 million a day, 1120 00:57:42,585 --> 00:57:47,588 that's $7.3 billion a year from one penny more. 1121 00:57:47,631 --> 00:57:50,799 When you own Coca Cola, you own a little piece 1122 00:57:50,843 --> 00:57:54,469 of the minds of billions and billions of people. 1123 00:57:56,015 --> 00:57:57,264 That is really good. 1124 00:57:57,308 --> 00:57:59,725 ♪ ♪ (clinking) 1125 00:57:59,768 --> 00:58:01,810 Man: Who's got the most $100 bills these days? 1126 00:58:01,854 --> 00:58:04,146 Well, his name is Warren Buffett in this country, 1127 00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:07,024 and he has just displaced his friend Bill Gates 1128 00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:09,902 as the richest businessman in the world. 1129 00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:19,453 And the purpose of Wednesday's meeting was to discuss 1130 00:58:19,496 --> 00:58:21,663 Buffett's company, Berkshire Hathaway's plan 1131 00:58:21,707 --> 00:58:23,790 to purchase railroad giant Burlington Northern, 1132 00:58:23,834 --> 00:58:28,337 valued at $26 billion. This would be Buffett's largest acquisition ever. 1133 00:58:32,551 --> 00:58:34,968 Munger: He's created Berkshire from virtually nothing 1134 00:58:35,012 --> 00:58:37,930 into hundreds of billions of dollars of market cap. 1135 00:58:37,973 --> 00:58:41,558 Nobody else has a record like that. 1136 00:58:41,602 --> 00:58:44,937 Gottesman: He wanted to have an outstanding reputation 1137 00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:49,024 that he'd never really upset the apple cart when he bought a business, 1138 00:58:49,068 --> 00:58:50,859 that he kept the management in place. 1139 00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:55,072 He was establishing a reputation 1140 00:58:55,115 --> 00:58:58,533 that paid off later in life. 1141 00:58:58,577 --> 00:59:01,453 It's been building and building ever since I've known him. 1142 00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:05,832 Warren: It takes 20 years to build a reputation, 1143 00:59:05,876 --> 00:59:07,834 then it takes five minutes to lose it. 1144 00:59:07,878 --> 00:59:10,754 ♪ ♪ 1145 00:59:12,216 --> 00:59:14,299 Loomis: When Warren made his investment in Salomon, 1146 00:59:14,343 --> 00:59:18,136 I was one of the people, along with many, many others, 1147 00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:20,847 who were quite amazed, because he had taken 1148 00:59:20,891 --> 00:59:26,270 a very critical tone in talking about investment bankers and about their greed. 1149 00:59:26,313 --> 00:59:29,481 And here he was investing in one, 1150 00:59:29,525 --> 00:59:33,318 Salomon Brothers, that was known to be a member of the club. 1151 00:59:35,948 --> 00:59:38,323 Gottesman: Warren and Charlie were on the board, 1152 00:59:38,367 --> 00:59:42,536 and Charlie couldn't stand what was going on there 1153 00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:45,080 and didn't like the culture at all. 1154 00:59:45,124 --> 00:59:50,168 And shortly after they got involved, the thing exploded. 1155 00:59:50,212 --> 00:59:52,879 (phone ringing) (clock ticking) 1156 00:59:58,971 --> 01:00:02,889 Warren: In 1991 on a terrible day in August, 1157 01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:07,894 I got a call, and the two top officers of Salomon 1158 01:00:07,938 --> 01:00:10,188 were on the other end, and they said that-- 1159 01:00:10,232 --> 01:00:12,774 that... "We have problem." 1160 01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:17,362 Announcer: This is "NBC Nightly News." 1161 01:00:17,406 --> 01:00:19,990 Good evening. It is the kind of scandal 1162 01:00:20,034 --> 01:00:22,326 that rocks Wall Street and raises questions, 1163 01:00:22,369 --> 01:00:25,412 questions about the integrity of our financial institutions. 1164 01:00:25,456 --> 01:00:29,333 Man: The giant securities firm of Salomon Brothers under investigation 1165 01:00:29,376 --> 01:00:31,335 for improper trading of treasury bonds. 1166 01:00:32,629 --> 01:00:34,713 Man 2: Salomon admitted it exceeded the limit 1167 01:00:34,757 --> 01:00:36,590 of trading in government bonds, 1168 01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:39,092 once by buying bonds in the name of a customer 1169 01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:41,053 who didn't even know about the deal. 1170 01:00:41,096 --> 01:00:44,639 Salomon Brothers is under investigation by the Treasury Department, 1171 01:00:44,683 --> 01:00:47,934 the Federal Reserve, the SEC, and the Justice Department. 1172 01:00:47,978 --> 01:00:50,937 But more important than the fate of the firm itself 1173 01:00:50,981 --> 01:00:53,148 is the impact their actions could have 1174 01:00:53,192 --> 01:00:55,317 on the public trust and on the credibility 1175 01:00:55,361 --> 01:00:57,277 of the American market worldwide. 1176 01:00:57,321 --> 01:00:59,446 ♪ ♪ (rain pattering) 1177 01:00:59,490 --> 01:01:02,449 Warren: The company owed $150 billion. 1178 01:01:02,493 --> 01:01:05,035 It owed more money than any other private company 1179 01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:07,079 in the United States at the time. 1180 01:01:07,122 --> 01:01:12,125 And that night I met with the man that ran the Federal Reserve of New York, 1181 01:01:12,169 --> 01:01:16,088 who was the sheriff in effect, and I said, you know, 1182 01:01:16,131 --> 01:01:17,923 "I've never really owed very much money before." 1183 01:01:17,966 --> 01:01:19,800 I said, "I've got a little mortgage on a house, 1184 01:01:19,843 --> 01:01:22,928 but 150 billion is a little staggering." 1185 01:01:22,971 --> 01:01:25,013 And I was hoping he would say, "Well, don't worry, Warren. 1186 01:01:25,057 --> 01:01:27,182 We'll give you a few weeks to breathe." 1187 01:01:27,226 --> 01:01:31,311 And he-- he said to me, "Prepare for any eventuality." 1188 01:01:31,355 --> 01:01:34,106 ♪ ♪ 1189 01:01:37,736 --> 01:01:40,612 Woman: Earlier today, the US Treasury Department 1190 01:01:40,656 --> 01:01:42,823 announced it had suspended Salomon Brothers 1191 01:01:42,866 --> 01:01:45,075 from participating in the auction of new issues. 1192 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:46,952 Man: It was one more jolt 1193 01:01:46,995 --> 01:01:49,037 for a scandal-scarred Wall Street. 1194 01:01:50,582 --> 01:01:52,582 Loomis: The Fed was in effect saying, 1195 01:01:52,626 --> 01:01:56,545 "You're an evil force, and we don't want you trading our bonds." 1196 01:01:56,588 --> 01:01:57,712 (gavel pounds) 1197 01:01:59,007 --> 01:02:02,509 It was a huge turning point for Warren. 1198 01:02:02,553 --> 01:02:05,554 And he believed that, at that particular point, 1199 01:02:05,597 --> 01:02:08,765 his reputation was on the line. 1200 01:02:08,809 --> 01:02:11,893 Gottesman: Warren had 24 hours to make up his mind 1201 01:02:11,937 --> 01:02:15,188 as to whether he was going to go forward or just bow out. 1202 01:02:15,232 --> 01:02:19,234 And I think at that point, Salomon Brothers could have gone into bankruptcy. 1203 01:02:19,278 --> 01:02:22,779 And Warren stepped up and took responsibility. 1204 01:02:22,823 --> 01:02:27,075 (people chattering) 1205 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:30,203 Okay. I'm Warren Buffett. 1206 01:02:30,247 --> 01:02:33,790 I was... elected... 1207 01:02:33,834 --> 01:02:36,710 Interim Chairman of Salomon, Inc. 1208 01:02:36,753 --> 01:02:39,212 a few hours ago at a board of directors meeting. 1209 01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:41,631 Man: Why was it necessary for you to step in 1210 01:02:41,675 --> 01:02:43,633 and what is your mandate of leadership? 1211 01:02:43,677 --> 01:02:45,969 I think that it was necessary to step in 1212 01:02:46,013 --> 01:02:48,513 because I would do whatever was needed, 1213 01:02:48,557 --> 01:02:51,808 dig out any bit of information about what's happened in the past, 1214 01:02:51,852 --> 01:02:53,477 and I would do everything I could to make sure 1215 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,936 that things exactly right in the future. 1216 01:02:54,980 --> 01:02:57,314 Man 2: Mr. Buffett, are you satisfied that-- 1217 01:02:57,357 --> 01:03:01,651 I had to convince the Treasury that what was done in the past 1218 01:03:01,695 --> 01:03:06,072 was awful and stupid, and they had every right to be furious at us, 1219 01:03:06,116 --> 01:03:08,533 but this firm employed 8,000 people, 1220 01:03:08,577 --> 01:03:10,410 and it was going to go out of business 1221 01:03:10,454 --> 01:03:13,205 unless they let us continue, basically. 1222 01:03:13,248 --> 01:03:15,790 ♪ ♪ 1223 01:03:15,834 --> 01:03:19,961 Warren believed that there was a too-big-to-fail scenario. 1224 01:03:20,005 --> 01:03:21,880 The term was not used then, 1225 01:03:21,924 --> 01:03:25,342 but he believed that Salomon was too big to fail. 1226 01:03:25,385 --> 01:03:28,053 And if Salomon went down, 1227 01:03:28,096 --> 01:03:31,806 it would take other important parts of Wall Street with it. 1228 01:03:31,850 --> 01:03:34,809 ♪ ♪ 1229 01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:37,187 Warren: We had this death knell from the Treasury, 1230 01:03:37,231 --> 01:03:39,397 so I called the Treasury. 1231 01:03:39,441 --> 01:03:41,691 Nick Brady was the Secretary. 1232 01:03:41,735 --> 01:03:44,486 I'm pleading for my life. 1233 01:03:44,530 --> 01:03:46,655 And I'm sure my voice was cracking and everything else, 1234 01:03:46,698 --> 01:03:49,366 and I said, "Nick, this is the most important day of my life." 1235 01:03:49,409 --> 01:03:54,162 And I really did feel that it was going to be a colossal disaster. 1236 01:03:55,666 --> 01:03:57,415 He wasn't sure I was right at all-- 1237 01:03:57,459 --> 01:03:58,833 in fact, he probably thought I was wrong-- 1238 01:03:58,877 --> 01:04:01,503 but he knew that I felt what I was saying. 1239 01:04:02,673 --> 01:04:05,257 So, the Treasury modified its order, 1240 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:06,883 and in effect, of course, 1241 01:04:06,927 --> 01:04:08,343 it was quite an endorsement. 1242 01:04:09,429 --> 01:04:11,680 It was huge. (chuckles) 1243 01:04:11,723 --> 01:04:15,517 ♪ ♪ 1244 01:04:15,561 --> 01:04:17,352 Munger: It saved Salomon. 1245 01:04:17,396 --> 01:04:21,523 Nick Brady went with Warren, because he trusted him. 1246 01:04:21,567 --> 01:04:24,734 It shows how having a good reputation is really helpful in life. 1247 01:04:24,778 --> 01:04:26,945 (people chattering) 1248 01:04:26,989 --> 01:04:28,572 Warren: I thank you for the opportunity 1249 01:04:28,615 --> 01:04:30,365 to appear before this subcommittee. 1250 01:04:31,618 --> 01:04:33,785 I would like to start by apologizing 1251 01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:35,870 for the acts that have brought us here. 1252 01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:39,666 A nation has a right to expect its rules and laws to be obeyed, 1253 01:04:39,710 --> 01:04:42,502 but I also have asked every Salomon employee 1254 01:04:42,546 --> 01:04:45,088 to be his or her own compliance officer. 1255 01:04:45,132 --> 01:04:47,507 After they first obey all rules, 1256 01:04:47,551 --> 01:04:50,051 I then want employees to ask themselves 1257 01:04:50,095 --> 01:04:53,471 whether they are willing to have any contemplated act 1258 01:04:53,515 --> 01:04:56,182 appear the next day on the front page 1259 01:04:56,226 --> 01:04:59,394 of their local paper to be read by their spouses, 1260 01:04:59,438 --> 01:05:00,854 children, and friends. 1261 01:05:01,982 --> 01:05:03,523 If they follow this test, 1262 01:05:03,567 --> 01:05:06,401 they need not fear my other message to them: 1263 01:05:06,445 --> 01:05:09,487 Lose money for the firm, and I will be understanding. 1264 01:05:09,531 --> 01:05:11,531 Lose a shred of reputation for the firm, 1265 01:05:11,575 --> 01:05:13,283 and I will be ruthless. 1266 01:05:13,327 --> 01:05:15,076 I welcome your questions. 1267 01:05:18,415 --> 01:05:21,374 (birds chirping) 1268 01:05:29,968 --> 01:05:31,760 (chattering) 1269 01:05:37,017 --> 01:05:38,350 Warren: It's been 50 years 1270 01:05:38,393 --> 01:05:41,311 since I formally took control of Berkshire Hathaway, 1271 01:05:41,355 --> 01:05:44,481 and, step by step, we've created something 1272 01:05:44,524 --> 01:05:48,652 that is kind of what I dreamt we might create over time, 1273 01:05:48,695 --> 01:05:50,528 but it took a lot of time to do it. 1274 01:05:50,572 --> 01:05:52,697 Never seemed like we were making that much progress on any one day, 1275 01:05:52,741 --> 01:05:55,283 but compound interest works. (humphs) 1276 01:05:56,411 --> 01:05:58,870 Woman: When you think back 50 years ago 1277 01:05:58,914 --> 01:06:00,664 when you founded this company, 1278 01:06:00,707 --> 01:06:03,792 did you ever imagine it would be the fifth-largest company in the world? 1279 01:06:05,295 --> 01:06:08,588 No, I-- I didn't, but if I was thinking about it, 1280 01:06:08,632 --> 01:06:10,507 I wouldn't have thought in terms of being the fifth, 1281 01:06:10,550 --> 01:06:12,884 or the fourth, or the third. 1282 01:06:12,928 --> 01:06:14,427 You would've wanted number one. 1283 01:06:14,471 --> 01:06:17,639 Oh! I mean, if you're gonna dream, you might as well dream. 1284 01:06:17,683 --> 01:06:20,725 ...two, three. (cameras clicking) 1285 01:06:20,769 --> 01:06:24,354 (thudding) Bill Gates wins. Bill Gates wins. 1286 01:06:24,398 --> 01:06:26,898 Warren: Well, a Berkshire Hathaway shareholders meeting is 1287 01:06:26,942 --> 01:06:30,110 partly a fun festival. It's sort of a Mardi Gras 1288 01:06:30,153 --> 01:06:32,070 for people to come every year. (chanting) 1289 01:06:32,114 --> 01:06:34,823 It's a chance for us to have a lot of fun 1290 01:06:34,866 --> 01:06:37,659 and meet the people that have entrusted us with their money. 1291 01:06:37,703 --> 01:06:41,037 (chattering, cheering) 1292 01:06:41,081 --> 01:06:45,834 Munger: Well, we used to have just 30 people in a cafeteria, 1293 01:06:45,877 --> 01:06:49,129 and now we have this huge public spectacle. 1294 01:06:49,172 --> 01:06:51,256 (chattering) 1295 01:06:51,299 --> 01:06:53,967 Munger: Celebration is part of making 1296 01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:56,511 a group of people work well together. 1297 01:06:56,555 --> 01:06:58,430 It's a celebration. 1298 01:06:58,473 --> 01:07:00,557 Warren: ♪ We are glad ♪ (guitar playing) 1299 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,060 ♪ You're here at our meeting ♪ 1300 01:07:04,104 --> 01:07:07,731 ♪ Be sure to check out our wares ♪ 1301 01:07:07,774 --> 01:07:12,026 ♪ We'll sell you See's Candy and Dilly Bars ♪ 1302 01:07:12,070 --> 01:07:15,739 ♪ And insurance for all of your cars ♪ 1303 01:07:15,782 --> 01:07:19,409 ♪ For its buy, buy, buy all you see ♪ 1304 01:07:19,453 --> 01:07:24,497 ♪ At the Berkshire show! ♪ 1305 01:07:24,541 --> 01:07:26,166 (flushes) 1306 01:07:27,127 --> 01:07:29,878 ♪ ♪ (chattering) 1307 01:07:29,921 --> 01:07:31,629 Man: All right! Woo! 1308 01:07:32,716 --> 01:07:36,176 He truly loves to do what he does. 1309 01:07:36,219 --> 01:07:39,262 Love you, Warren! (laughs) Aw, yeah. 1310 01:07:39,306 --> 01:07:42,891 Loomis: I think investors who own Berkshire Hathaway, 1311 01:07:42,934 --> 01:07:45,727 they see themselves as a part of a community. 1312 01:07:45,771 --> 01:07:47,061 Woman: One, two, three. 1313 01:07:49,441 --> 01:07:53,443 There are more long-term holders of Berkshire than any company. 1314 01:07:53,487 --> 01:07:55,111 People consider it a religion. 1315 01:07:55,155 --> 01:07:58,031 Man: Okay, right here. (laughs) 1316 01:07:58,074 --> 01:07:59,449 Warren: They don't buy it with the idea 1317 01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:01,493 they're gonna sell it next week. 1318 01:08:01,536 --> 01:08:04,454 I think most of them buying it with the intent of holding it for their lifetime, 1319 01:08:04,498 --> 01:08:06,706 just like they'd buy a farm or buy an apartment house. 1320 01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:09,876 At Berkshire, everybody gets the same information 1321 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,962 from the comprehensive annual report. 1322 01:08:13,006 --> 01:08:14,756 We don't meet with the analysts. 1323 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,091 I'm not interested in what an analyst thinks about Berkshire. 1324 01:08:17,135 --> 01:08:19,552 I'm interested in what the owners of Berkshire think about Berkshire. 1325 01:08:19,596 --> 01:08:22,096 (chattering) 1326 01:08:22,140 --> 01:08:24,682 Munger: He came out of a private partnership 1327 01:08:24,726 --> 01:08:28,102 where people he knew were trusting him. 1328 01:08:28,146 --> 01:08:30,897 And he had his relatives in the partnership, 1329 01:08:30,941 --> 01:08:32,565 and they were not rich. 1330 01:08:32,609 --> 01:08:34,984 And as it got bigger, he started treating 1331 01:08:35,028 --> 01:08:37,028 everybody else the way he treated his relatives. 1332 01:08:38,156 --> 01:08:40,573 (chattering) 1333 01:08:40,617 --> 01:08:41,741 Warren: In terms of our feeling 1334 01:08:41,785 --> 01:08:43,660 toward the people who are shareholders, 1335 01:08:43,703 --> 01:08:45,328 we regard them as our partners. 1336 01:08:45,372 --> 01:08:48,456 (cheering) They're not some faceless group of people. 1337 01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:51,292 And that's why at the annual meeting, I love seeing 40,000 of them. 1338 01:08:52,838 --> 01:08:54,879 It gives real meaning to what we're doing every day. 1339 01:08:55,924 --> 01:08:58,716 Let's try. ♪ If you know... ♪ 1340 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,928 Men: ♪ Susie like I know Susie ♪ 1341 01:09:01,972 --> 01:09:05,348 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, what a gal ♪ 1342 01:09:05,392 --> 01:09:08,184 We just have a lot of love and respect for each other. 1343 01:09:08,228 --> 01:09:09,853 And that's never changed. 1344 01:09:09,896 --> 01:09:12,814 ♪ Oh, oh... ♪ Susie: I don't go to most things in Omaha, 1345 01:09:12,858 --> 01:09:15,400 because I think Astrid lives there with him, 1346 01:09:15,443 --> 01:09:16,734 and that's for her to do. 1347 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,154 And then we do all kinds of things. 1348 01:09:24,202 --> 01:09:25,910 Susie Jr.: Strange as it may seem to people, 1349 01:09:25,954 --> 01:09:27,620 I always think, you know, "Who cares? 1350 01:09:27,664 --> 01:09:29,914 "If it's working between the people who are directly involved, 1351 01:09:29,958 --> 01:09:31,332 who cares what anyone thinks?" 1352 01:09:31,376 --> 01:09:33,877 And my mother and Astrid were very close, you know. 1353 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,379 They really, really loved each other, 1354 01:09:36,423 --> 01:09:39,507 and I think that my mother was glad that she was there, 1355 01:09:39,551 --> 01:09:41,134 'cause she-- she loved my dad. 1356 01:09:41,177 --> 01:09:43,303 She wanted him taken care of and happy, 1357 01:09:43,346 --> 01:09:45,263 and there's no one better than Astrid. 1358 01:09:45,307 --> 01:09:47,599 She's just-- she loves my dad. She wouldn't care if he had one cent. 1359 01:09:47,642 --> 01:09:49,559 All: ♪ ...back where you belong ♪ 1360 01:09:49,603 --> 01:09:52,312 Well, Astrid has lived with me for a long time. 1361 01:09:53,315 --> 01:09:55,231 She's done wonders for me. 1362 01:09:55,275 --> 01:09:57,609 It worked well, but I don't think it'll work 1363 01:09:57,652 --> 01:09:59,694 for lots of other people necessarily. 1364 01:10:01,740 --> 01:10:03,865 Susie and I loved each other, we admired each other, 1365 01:10:03,909 --> 01:10:06,451 and we were totally in sync with what the other was doing, 1366 01:10:06,494 --> 01:10:08,870 but we were two different individuals. 1367 01:10:08,914 --> 01:10:11,331 (waves crashing) (gulls cawing) 1368 01:10:11,374 --> 01:10:14,292 ♪ ♪ 1369 01:10:14,336 --> 01:10:18,004 Susie: The first time Warren came out to San Francisco... 1370 01:10:19,174 --> 01:10:21,257 we took a walk, and he looked around, 1371 01:10:21,301 --> 01:10:23,343 and he doesn't-- he's not very visual. 1372 01:10:24,471 --> 01:10:26,596 He was looking around, and he said, 1373 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,641 "This really is-- this is your city." 1374 01:10:36,733 --> 01:10:41,653 I am so drawn to color, light, form, and nature, 1375 01:10:41,696 --> 01:10:45,406 that he thought it was a good place for me. 1376 01:10:46,952 --> 01:10:48,201 Warren: Over the years I've developed 1377 01:10:48,244 --> 01:10:50,745 a better understanding of human nature. 1378 01:10:50,789 --> 01:10:52,705 I can learn a lot about investments out of a book , 1379 01:10:52,749 --> 01:10:56,376 but I don't think you can learn as much about human beings. 1380 01:10:56,419 --> 01:10:58,086 You really need some experiences, 1381 01:10:58,129 --> 01:11:02,298 and I'm wiser in that respect than I was 40 or 50 years ago, 1382 01:11:02,342 --> 01:11:05,635 even though I can't rattle off numbers 1383 01:11:05,679 --> 01:11:07,220 the same way I used to be able to. 1384 01:11:07,263 --> 01:11:09,681 ♪ ♪ 1385 01:11:12,978 --> 01:11:17,563 Well, I think that what we do reflects who we are, 1386 01:11:17,607 --> 01:11:19,732 and that's true for everybody in this room. 1387 01:11:19,776 --> 01:11:22,443 And if you do the work I do, 1388 01:11:22,487 --> 01:11:24,904 you meet the best human beings in the world. 1389 01:11:24,948 --> 01:11:27,115 People who have made a choice 1390 01:11:27,158 --> 01:11:30,284 not to make money, but to serve other human beings. 1391 01:11:30,328 --> 01:11:33,997 I think it's the best kind of life anyone could have. 1392 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,626 I was with her in Arizona at this "Fortune" Most Powerful Women's Conference, 1393 01:11:38,670 --> 01:11:41,045 and she told me she had a biopsy the day before, 1394 01:11:41,089 --> 01:11:42,964 and I didn't really think much of it. 1395 01:11:43,008 --> 01:11:45,299 ♪ ♪ 1396 01:11:45,343 --> 01:11:48,344 Then we got home, and the biopsy results were not good. 1397 01:11:48,388 --> 01:11:50,138 It was stage four oral cancer. 1398 01:11:52,183 --> 01:11:54,976 Howard: I was on my way to a board meeting in India, 1399 01:11:55,020 --> 01:11:56,561 and I remember saying to her, 1400 01:11:56,604 --> 01:11:58,479 "I'll see you when I get back." 1401 01:11:58,523 --> 01:12:00,523 And she rarely cried, 1402 01:12:00,567 --> 01:12:02,233 and she just started crying and said, 1403 01:12:02,277 --> 01:12:03,860 "No, you need to stay here, 1404 01:12:03,903 --> 01:12:06,154 and you need to come out for the operation." 1405 01:12:08,116 --> 01:12:09,991 Susie Jr.: So we were all there, 1406 01:12:10,035 --> 01:12:12,535 and the day she was going into the surgery, 1407 01:12:12,579 --> 01:12:16,205 that morning, my dad... 1408 01:12:16,249 --> 01:12:18,958 It's funny, he-- there's some of it he just can't-- 1409 01:12:19,002 --> 01:12:20,585 you know, he just can't-- 1410 01:12:20,628 --> 01:12:23,671 the thought of something happening to her was just, for him-- 1411 01:12:23,715 --> 01:12:26,507 you know, was just the worst thing that could happen. 1412 01:12:26,551 --> 01:12:28,009 ♪ ♪ 1413 01:12:28,053 --> 01:12:30,136 Peter: She knew it was going to be really difficult. 1414 01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:33,473 She knew the recovery was going to be brutal, 1415 01:12:33,516 --> 01:12:37,685 so I think that she had that surgery for others. 1416 01:12:37,729 --> 01:12:39,854 (heart monitor beeping) 1417 01:12:41,066 --> 01:12:43,775 It was... quite a big surgery. 1418 01:12:43,818 --> 01:12:47,695 She couldn't talk, she couldn't swallow, she couldn't eat. 1419 01:12:47,739 --> 01:12:50,907 But she came out, and I really was with her 1420 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:52,617 for the next four months or so. 1421 01:12:53,870 --> 01:12:55,286 And my dad came out every weekend. 1422 01:12:55,330 --> 01:12:57,538 ♪ ♪ 1423 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,378 And in a few months she was doing better. 1424 01:13:15,934 --> 01:13:17,809 She and my dad had gone to Cody, Wyoming, 1425 01:13:17,852 --> 01:13:20,394 which they did every year with a bunch of friends. 1426 01:13:21,481 --> 01:13:23,064 (phone ringing) 1427 01:13:25,735 --> 01:13:30,530 And my dad called. This was, I don't know, 8:00 at night or something, 1428 01:13:30,573 --> 01:13:33,866 and he said, "Something happened to Mom. 1429 01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:36,702 I'm in an ambulance. You need to come." 1430 01:13:40,667 --> 01:13:43,417 Howard: I actually thought something had happened to my dad. 1431 01:13:43,461 --> 01:13:46,087 I don't know why I thought that, but I-- I guess I thought 1432 01:13:46,131 --> 01:13:48,089 my mom had had this recovery, 1433 01:13:48,133 --> 01:13:52,176 it was successful, and why would anything happen to her? 1434 01:13:52,220 --> 01:13:55,721 ♪ ♪ 1435 01:13:58,059 --> 01:13:59,100 It was horrible. 1436 01:14:00,436 --> 01:14:01,978 And a total shock. 1437 01:14:02,021 --> 01:14:03,896 You know, she'd been fine. 1438 01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:05,606 She'd been fine. They went off to Cody, 1439 01:14:05,650 --> 01:14:07,900 she was fine, and they were having dinner, 1440 01:14:07,944 --> 01:14:10,695 and you know, she didn't feel well after dinner, 1441 01:14:10,738 --> 01:14:13,281 (emotionally) and... she had the stroke. 1442 01:14:13,324 --> 01:14:15,616 (heart monitor beeping) 1443 01:14:18,371 --> 01:14:21,706 We went into the hospital room, and my dad was sitting there. 1444 01:14:21,749 --> 01:14:24,542 He'd been sitting there all night, holding her hand. 1445 01:14:27,005 --> 01:14:28,754 I was so proud of him, 1446 01:14:28,798 --> 01:14:31,340 because when it came down to it, 1447 01:14:31,384 --> 01:14:32,925 he knew what he was supposed to do, 1448 01:14:32,969 --> 01:14:35,428 and he did it, which was nothing. (laughs) 1449 01:14:35,471 --> 01:14:38,639 ♪ ♪ 1450 01:14:39,726 --> 01:14:41,976 So my dad went to sleep, 1451 01:14:42,020 --> 01:14:43,811 and I sat with her. 1452 01:14:43,855 --> 01:14:46,397 And I just kept putting my hand on her heart 1453 01:14:46,441 --> 01:14:48,733 to see if she was breathing, and... 1454 01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:53,696 At one point, you know, I didn't feel anything, 1455 01:14:53,740 --> 01:14:55,198 so I went out, I got the nurse, 1456 01:14:55,241 --> 01:14:57,533 and I said, "Can you come in here?" 1457 01:14:57,577 --> 01:14:59,994 And she said, "No, she's gone." 1458 01:15:00,038 --> 01:15:02,413 So, I have to say one of the worst moments of my life 1459 01:15:02,457 --> 01:15:03,956 was waking my dad up to tell him that. 1460 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,168 ♪ ♪ 1461 01:15:14,552 --> 01:15:15,885 Warren: It's a very strange thing, love. 1462 01:15:15,929 --> 01:15:16,969 You can't get rid of it. 1463 01:15:19,641 --> 01:15:21,599 If you try to give it out, you get more back. 1464 01:15:24,270 --> 01:15:26,020 If you try to hang onto it, you lose it. 1465 01:15:35,114 --> 01:15:38,157 Susie... really put me together. 1466 01:15:38,201 --> 01:15:39,325 She believed in me. 1467 01:15:39,369 --> 01:15:41,452 She-she-she-- she put me together. 1468 01:15:41,496 --> 01:15:45,206 And I would not only have turned out to be the person I turned out to be, 1469 01:15:45,250 --> 01:15:47,083 but I would not have-- 1470 01:15:47,126 --> 01:15:49,710 I actually wouldn't have been as successful in business without that, and... 1471 01:15:50,672 --> 01:15:52,129 she made me more of a whole person. 1472 01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,882 ♪ ♪ 1473 01:16:00,223 --> 01:16:04,141 Peter: He went dark, essentially, quiet and inward 1474 01:16:04,185 --> 01:16:05,643 for a certain amount of time. 1475 01:16:05,687 --> 01:16:08,437 ♪ ♪ 1476 01:16:08,481 --> 01:16:11,649 You know, my dad is a solitary guy, 1477 01:16:11,693 --> 01:16:15,736 and he had lived, essentially, a solitary life in a lot of ways. 1478 01:16:18,241 --> 01:16:21,075 I think it came down to him figuring out 1479 01:16:21,119 --> 01:16:24,453 how he was gonna get through this tunnel 1480 01:16:24,497 --> 01:16:26,497 and get out the other side. 1481 01:16:31,045 --> 01:16:32,378 In my head at the time, I thought, 1482 01:16:32,422 --> 01:16:34,547 "God, I don't know if he'll ever get out of bed." 1483 01:16:38,303 --> 01:16:39,552 But he did. 1484 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,692 Welcome. I'm Patty Stonesifer, 1485 01:16:54,736 --> 01:16:57,194 the CEO of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. 1486 01:16:57,238 --> 01:16:59,280 And we appreciate you coming today, 1487 01:16:59,324 --> 01:17:02,825 especially since I sent a very vague and very late notice 1488 01:17:02,869 --> 01:17:05,703 to ask you to come to a conversation with Bill and Melinda 1489 01:17:05,747 --> 01:17:08,247 on the future on philanthropy. 1490 01:17:08,291 --> 01:17:10,958 So, lets get on with it. 1491 01:17:11,002 --> 01:17:15,212 I have the pleasure of introducing a good man 1492 01:17:15,256 --> 01:17:19,550 whose great decision is going to change the world, Warren Buffett. 1493 01:17:19,594 --> 01:17:22,553 (applause) 1494 01:17:25,433 --> 01:17:28,059 ♪ ♪ 1495 01:17:30,438 --> 01:17:32,313 Man: A remarkable decision tonight 1496 01:17:32,357 --> 01:17:34,231 from one of the richest men in the world. 1497 01:17:34,275 --> 01:17:36,484 Mega-billionaire Warren Buffett says 1498 01:17:36,527 --> 01:17:39,278 he is giving away most of his fortune away to charity. 1499 01:17:39,322 --> 01:17:40,863 Woman: Buffett has pledged to give away 1500 01:17:40,907 --> 01:17:42,448 the bulk of his fortune 1501 01:17:42,492 --> 01:17:45,201 to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation 1502 01:17:45,244 --> 01:17:47,787 and giving more than 15% of his money 1503 01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:52,500 to foundations started by his three children and his late wife, Susan. 1504 01:17:52,543 --> 01:17:55,795 Man 2: One global health activist called what Buffett did today 1505 01:17:55,838 --> 01:18:01,759 one of the most remarkably selfless acts that history will ever record. 1506 01:18:01,803 --> 01:18:05,513 That's a better hand than I get at a Berkshire Hathaway meeting. (laughter) 1507 01:18:05,556 --> 01:18:07,807 I'd like to thank you for coming. 1508 01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:12,019 It-- it's a great day for me. It's a great day for my family. 1509 01:18:12,063 --> 01:18:15,189 My wife Susie and I had planned that whatever I made 1510 01:18:15,233 --> 01:18:16,982 would go back to society, 1511 01:18:17,026 --> 01:18:19,318 and, originally, I thought she would outlive me 1512 01:18:19,362 --> 01:18:21,070 and that she'd make a big decision on it. 1513 01:18:21,114 --> 01:18:24,490 But since her death, I had to rethink 1514 01:18:24,534 --> 01:18:27,034 the best way to get the money into society 1515 01:18:27,078 --> 01:18:28,869 and have it used in the most effective way, 1516 01:18:28,913 --> 01:18:33,332 and I had a solution staring me in the face. (all laugh) 1517 01:18:33,376 --> 01:18:37,002 It was completely out of the blue. I mean amazing. 1518 01:18:37,046 --> 01:18:40,923 The largest single gift ever given was 1519 01:18:40,967 --> 01:18:43,843 what he gave away that day. 1520 01:18:43,886 --> 01:18:46,595 I'd like to ask the people representing those... 1521 01:18:46,639 --> 01:18:48,556 various foundations to come out. 1522 01:18:48,599 --> 01:18:52,685 (applause) 1523 01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:55,062 The first three letters are easy to sign, I just sign "Dad." 1524 01:18:55,106 --> 01:18:58,357 (laughter, applause) 1525 01:18:58,401 --> 01:19:01,485 ♪ ♪ 1526 01:19:10,121 --> 01:19:12,163 Howard: When he wrote the letter to us, 1527 01:19:12,206 --> 01:19:13,831 he put something in that letter 1528 01:19:13,875 --> 01:19:15,583 that was incredibly important to me, 1529 01:19:15,626 --> 01:19:19,920 which was exactly how our foundation behaves, 1530 01:19:19,964 --> 01:19:22,673 which is, if you're gonna try to bat a thousand, 1531 01:19:22,717 --> 01:19:24,967 you won't do very many things that are important. 1532 01:19:25,011 --> 01:19:28,554 But if you're willing to basically strike out a few times, 1533 01:19:28,598 --> 01:19:30,473 you can really change something big. 1534 01:19:30,516 --> 01:19:34,602 I.C.C.N.! (laughs) (people shout) 1535 01:19:34,645 --> 01:19:36,145 Warren: Well, I feel terrific about the fact 1536 01:19:36,189 --> 01:19:38,772 that my three children each run a separate foundation 1537 01:19:38,816 --> 01:19:41,609 that combines their special interests, 1538 01:19:41,652 --> 01:19:43,694 whether it's early education 1539 01:19:43,738 --> 01:19:47,364 or whether it's farming in areas where people's techniques for using 1540 01:19:47,408 --> 01:19:50,242 small plots of land could use a lot of improvement. 1541 01:19:50,286 --> 01:19:52,369 All kinds of ways-- vaccines, you name it. 1542 01:19:52,413 --> 01:19:54,121 (speaking foreign language) 1543 01:19:54,165 --> 01:19:55,831 Man: More powerful than Buffett's gift 1544 01:19:55,875 --> 01:19:58,959 is the message he's sending to other wealthy Americans, 1545 01:19:59,003 --> 01:20:01,295 that those who have the least in this world 1546 01:20:01,339 --> 01:20:04,131 should benefit from those who have the most. 1547 01:20:09,555 --> 01:20:12,348 Warren: In my entire lifetime, everything that I've spent 1548 01:20:12,391 --> 01:20:15,809 will be quite a bit less than one percent 1549 01:20:15,853 --> 01:20:16,894 of everything I've made. 1550 01:20:16,938 --> 01:20:19,104 The other 99% plus will go to others, 1551 01:20:19,148 --> 01:20:21,190 because it has no utility to me. 1552 01:20:21,234 --> 01:20:23,150 ♪ ♪ 1553 01:20:25,530 --> 01:20:31,033 So, it's silly for me to not transfer that utility 1554 01:20:31,077 --> 01:20:32,451 to people who can use it. 1555 01:20:34,372 --> 01:20:35,913 It's doing me no good. 1556 01:20:41,254 --> 01:20:43,003 Susie Jr.: I am so proud of what we do. 1557 01:20:45,174 --> 01:20:46,840 I almost cry at every board meeting, 1558 01:20:46,884 --> 01:20:50,344 because I just think she would be so proud. 1559 01:20:51,847 --> 01:20:54,640 And that is my biggest job, in my opinion, 1560 01:20:54,684 --> 01:20:56,433 is to make sure that every penny gets spent 1561 01:20:56,477 --> 01:20:57,643 the way she would want it spent. 1562 01:21:01,148 --> 01:21:03,774 Susie: Whoever you are in this life, you don't want to think 1563 01:21:03,818 --> 01:21:08,112 you wasted a lot of your energy, love, 1564 01:21:08,155 --> 01:21:11,073 and time on something useless. 1565 01:21:11,117 --> 01:21:12,950 ♪ ♪ 1566 01:21:12,994 --> 01:21:16,495 I always thought I'd marry a minister, a doctor, or somebody 1567 01:21:16,539 --> 01:21:21,208 out doing some valuable service 1568 01:21:21,252 --> 01:21:23,544 to human beings. 1569 01:21:23,588 --> 01:21:28,215 And the fact that I married somebody who makes just piles of money 1570 01:21:28,259 --> 01:21:31,427 is really the antithesis of what I ever thought, 1571 01:21:31,470 --> 01:21:33,429 but I know what he is, 1572 01:21:33,472 --> 01:21:37,516 and... he is... 1573 01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:41,312 There's no finer human being than who he is. 1574 01:21:43,733 --> 01:21:48,736 ♪ ♪ 1575 01:21:54,035 --> 01:21:55,784 Warren: The truth is that I'm here 1576 01:21:55,828 --> 01:21:57,828 in my position as a matter of luck. 1577 01:21:57,872 --> 01:21:59,788 Hey! How are you doing, Grandpa? 1578 01:21:59,832 --> 01:22:01,957 Hey, Grandpa! Okay. 1579 01:22:02,001 --> 01:22:04,168 Warren: When I was born in 1930, 1580 01:22:04,211 --> 01:22:09,131 the odds were probably 40:1 against me being born in the United States. 1581 01:22:09,175 --> 01:22:13,427 I did win the ovarian lottery on that first day, and on top of that, I was male. 1582 01:22:14,555 --> 01:22:16,555 Put that down as another 50/50 shot 1583 01:22:16,599 --> 01:22:21,602 and now the odds are 80:1 against being born a male in the United States, 1584 01:22:21,646 --> 01:22:25,814 and it was enormously important in my whole life. 1585 01:22:25,858 --> 01:22:28,651 To think that that makes me superior to anyone else 1586 01:22:28,694 --> 01:22:31,779 as a human being is just-- I can't follow that line of reasoning. 1587 01:22:32,823 --> 01:22:34,365 Perfect! Okay, good luck. 1588 01:22:37,912 --> 01:22:42,247 I think I was lucky to have been standing alongside Warren Buffett 1589 01:22:42,291 --> 01:22:44,458 while he was becoming Warren Buffett. 1590 01:22:44,502 --> 01:22:49,588 He has developed over the years. He's broadened. 1591 01:22:49,632 --> 01:22:52,216 His values extend through all of his life. 1592 01:22:54,011 --> 01:22:56,970 He wants to lead a life that he and his father, 1593 01:22:57,014 --> 01:23:00,265 if his father was still living, would say was a good one. 1594 01:23:00,309 --> 01:23:02,601 ♪ ♪ 1595 01:23:02,645 --> 01:23:06,647 I think he's going to end up in the history books a hundred years from now. 1596 01:23:06,691 --> 01:23:10,234 I'm not sure what role he's going to be assigned. 1597 01:23:10,277 --> 01:23:13,028 Will he be famous for what he did as an investor 1598 01:23:13,072 --> 01:23:16,115 or as a philanthropist? 1599 01:23:16,158 --> 01:23:20,285 But Warren said that his ambition in life is to be a teacher. 1600 01:23:21,997 --> 01:23:23,580 Warren: The world is a great movie to watch, 1601 01:23:23,624 --> 01:23:26,250 but you don't want to sleepwalk through life. 1602 01:23:26,293 --> 01:23:28,585 The important thing to do is to look for the job 1603 01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:30,796 you would take if you didn't need a job 1604 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,965 and life is wonderful then. 1605 01:23:33,008 --> 01:23:35,342 I mean, you'll jump out of bed in the morning 1606 01:23:35,386 --> 01:23:38,178 because you're really looking forward to the day. 1607 01:23:38,222 --> 01:23:41,849 I have-- for over 60 years, 1608 01:23:41,892 --> 01:23:43,267 I've been able to tap dance to work 1609 01:23:43,310 --> 01:23:45,894 just 'cause I'm doing what I love doing and-- 1610 01:23:45,938 --> 01:23:48,355 and I just feel very, very lucky. 1611 01:23:48,399 --> 01:23:50,441 Okay, class dismissed. 1612 01:23:50,484 --> 01:23:52,025 (laughter) 1613 01:23:54,697 --> 01:23:57,197 ♪ ♪ 1614 01:24:10,212 --> 01:24:11,336 Night. 1615 01:24:12,214 --> 01:24:13,589 Kunhardt: Do you fear death? 1616 01:24:13,632 --> 01:24:16,383 Warren: No, I don't. 1617 01:24:16,427 --> 01:24:19,845 I've had a terrific life. I feel-- you know, it's gonna happen, 1618 01:24:19,889 --> 01:24:22,347 and I have no idea what happens after it. 1619 01:24:22,391 --> 01:24:23,932 I'm an agnostic, so I-- 1620 01:24:23,976 --> 01:24:26,143 you know, it may be terribly interesting. 1621 01:24:26,187 --> 01:24:27,895 It may not be interesting at all. We'll find out. 1622 01:24:27,938 --> 01:24:30,522 But physically, I'm pretty well depreciated. 1623 01:24:30,566 --> 01:24:32,399 I'm getting down to salvage value. 1624 01:24:38,532 --> 01:24:40,616 But it really doesn't make any difference at all. 1625 01:24:40,659 --> 01:24:43,535 It doesn't interfere with my work. It doesn't interfere with my happiness. 1626 01:24:43,579 --> 01:24:44,912 It doesn't interfere with my thinking. 1627 01:24:44,955 --> 01:24:50,334 ♪ ♪ 1628 01:24:50,377 --> 01:24:54,129 I don't feel any diminution in my enjoyment of life 1629 01:24:54,173 --> 01:24:55,839 or enthusiasm for life at all. 1630 01:24:55,883 --> 01:24:58,967 In fact, in a sense, the game that I'm in 1631 01:24:59,011 --> 01:25:00,886 gets more interesting all the time. 1632 01:25:02,264 --> 01:25:05,516 It's a competitive game. It's a big game, 1633 01:25:05,559 --> 01:25:08,560 and I enjoyed the game a lot. 1634 01:25:09,647 --> 01:25:12,731 (coins clinking) 1635 01:25:17,154 --> 01:25:19,279 ♪ ♪ 1636 01:25:52,356 --> 01:25:55,315 (scratching) 1637 01:25:57,528 --> 01:26:00,737 ("Somewhere Over the Rainbow" playing) 1638 01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:08,370 Warren: ♪ Somewhere over the rainbow ♪ 1639 01:26:08,414 --> 01:26:13,292 ♪ Way up high ♪ 1640 01:26:13,335 --> 01:26:19,214 ♪ There's a land that I heard of ♪ 1641 01:26:19,258 --> 01:26:24,386 ♪ Once in a lullaby ♪ 1642 01:26:24,430 --> 01:26:29,975 ♪ Somewhere over the rainbow ♪ 1643 01:26:30,019 --> 01:26:35,063 ♪ Skies are blue ♪ 1644 01:26:35,107 --> 01:26:38,859 ♪ And the dreams ♪ 1645 01:26:38,903 --> 01:26:41,570 ♪ That you dare to dream ♪ 1646 01:26:41,614 --> 01:26:45,574 ♪ Really do come true ♪ 1647 01:26:45,618 --> 01:26:48,452 ♪ One day I'll wish upon a star ♪ 1648 01:26:48,495 --> 01:26:50,579 ♪ And wake up where the clouds ♪ 1649 01:26:50,623 --> 01:26:54,207 ♪ Are far behind me ♪ 1650 01:26:56,253 --> 01:26:58,045 ♪ Where troubles melt ♪ 1651 01:26:58,088 --> 01:26:59,546 ♪ Like lemon drops ♪ 1652 01:26:59,590 --> 01:27:00,923 ♪ Oh, way above ♪ 1653 01:27:00,966 --> 01:27:02,424 ♪ The chimney tops ♪ 1654 01:27:02,468 --> 01:27:04,343 ♪ That's where ♪ 1655 01:27:04,386 --> 01:27:08,555 ♪ You'll find me ♪ 1656 01:27:10,142 --> 01:27:15,562 ♪ Somewhere over the rainbow ♪ 1657 01:27:15,606 --> 01:27:19,858 ♪ Blue birds fly ♪ 1658 01:27:20,861 --> 01:27:26,281 ♪ Birds fly over the rainbow ♪ 1659 01:27:26,325 --> 01:27:30,869 ♪ Why then, oh, why can't I? ♪ 1660 01:27:30,913 --> 01:27:34,373 (music continues) 1661 01:27:52,518 --> 01:27:57,604 ♪ Somewhere over the rainbow ♪ 1662 01:27:57,648 --> 01:28:02,192 ♪ Blue birds fly ♪ 1663 01:28:02,236 --> 01:28:07,990 ♪ Birds fly over the rainbow ♪ 1664 01:28:08,033 --> 01:28:12,995 ♪ Why then, oh, why can't I? ♪ 1665 01:28:13,038 --> 01:28:18,125 ♪ If happy little bluebirds fly beyond the rainbow ♪ 1666 01:28:19,086 --> 01:28:21,962 ♪ Why, oh, why ♪ 1667 01:28:22,006 --> 01:28:27,092 ♪ Can't I? ♪ 1668 01:28:27,136 --> 01:28:28,927 Good night, Susan. 165404

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