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When I tell people my story

they don't believe it.

I guess I wouldn't believe the story

if someone else were telling it, but, I'm telling it

and it's true, every word of it.

Il started when I was born, 56 years ago,

but the real story began when I was 19 years old

and I went to college.

♪ RAINBOW: "Since You've Been Gone"

It was 1980. ll was the firs! day 01 school

at Sullivan County Community College up in the Catskills,

about 110 miles from where I grew up.

So, I drove up there alone.

I I gel the same old dreams

I Same time every night

I Fall (o the ground and I wake up...

I used to have this really old car. ll was a Volvo.

And it was a 1970 Volvo.

Had like 130,000 miles on it.

And the car was burgundy and the hood was green.

Actually, (he car was called the Old Bitch.

I Since you been gone

I Since you been gone

I I'm out of my head... J“

But the Old Bitch got me there.

Sullivan was a community college.

This wasn't some longstanding institution of higher learning.

All these station wagons are dropping kids off.

I was nervous, I'd just gotten to the school,

I didn't know anybody. I was a freshman.

I was never the captain of the football team in high school,

so I was never really like popular.

So, I'm walking around trying to find where my dorm is.

Meanwhile all these people are coming up to me

saying "Hi, how are you?"

"How was your summer?"

"Mine was great. How was yours?" "Super."

Why are they asking me how my summer was? I don! know.

Everybodfs being extremely friendly to me

and they're going out of their way to do it.

I don't mean just a 'hi',

I mean, claps on the hack and high fives.

And I was a little hit bewildered by this

because no one gets this kind of a welcome

on their firs! day at school.

And girls were kissing me,

like fully kissing me saying, "I'm so glad you came hack."

And I was saying 'thank you' and 'hello' back

but I had never been (here before and I didn't know them.

L! was bizarre.

And the next thing I heard from right behind me.

'Welcome back. Eddy!"

"Eddy! How are you'! Eddy, hi!"

I'm like, "My name's not Eddy. I don't know

'what you're talking about. I just got up here."

"Sure, Eddy, you're really funny,

'you're really funny, real funny."

I'm like, "I'm not Eddy. I don't know who Eddy is."

'Welcome hack, Eddy", they were all saying.

I finally made it to this dump of a dorm room.

Before a minute had gone by...

..."Who now? Who now is gonna come to find Eddy?"

I had been at college

the previous year with Eddy, and I knew

that he wasn't coming back to school.

As soon as this guy turned around, I...

I was, I was actually shaking.

I was... I know all color from my face dropped

cos I knew it was his double.

He had the same grin, the same hair, the same expressions.

It was his double.

And I see this guy's face and he's like...

...just standing there.

The first thing out of my mouth was 'Were you adopted?"

Er... and I was like, "Yes."

lsaid, "ls your birthday July 12th?" He. said yes.

I was like, "July 12th 1961."

"Oh my God", I said, "You're no! gonna believe this."

I said, "You have a twin brother. You have a twin."

"Oh my God."

I said. "Come with me."

And the two of us are crammed into (h is phone booth.

Shoulder to shoulder and you know, we had to like,

close the door of the phone booth.

And I'm trying to put the coins in

and they keep falling on the floor

and Bobby's picking up (he coins.

And he calls this guy and he's like,

"Hey, Eddy, you're not gonna believe this,

"you're not gonna believe this.

"Eddy, Eddy, you are not gonna believe this."

This guy's more hysterical than I am like weirded out.

"Eddy, you are not gonna believe this."

So I was like, "Give me the phone."

So I'm like, "Hi, Eddy?" "Yes."

But it was my voice that said, "Yes."

And I said, "Hi, Eddy, my name is Robert Shafran

"and, er... I'm meeting all these people

"who say I'm you."

And he said, “Uh-huh, yeah, I've been getting some calls."

I said, "Were you adopted?" and he said, "Yes."

And I said, "When was your birthday?"

"July 12th."

And I said, "Do you know what the name of the agency was?"

And he said, "No, hold on."

And I heard him go like, "Mom?"

And he came hack and he said, "Louise Wise Services."

Sometimes when you are just having a dream,

you know this can'! be real, this can't be real.

But you know (here's nothing you can do to slop it,

start it, change it, you just go with it

and that's what I was doing.

I just wanted to see what was gonna happen next.

Nu'. I'm “he, “his go. Let's gamed Eddy!'

So we gm into the Old Bitch.

It was about 9 o'clock a! night

and it's about a two-hour ride.

And we were speeding on route 17.

We were going 100 miles per hour, perhaps more.

We were speeding.

We're driving as fast as (his car would go.

Il was shaking.

And we go! pulled over by a New York Stale trooper.

And as I roll down my window (here's this gigantic cop

with like the sunglasses even though it's night time.

In the big hat.

He said, "You know, lclocked you at BB in a 50.

"Son, you better have a really good reason."

And I was like,

"Well, Officer, you're never gonna believe this."

The two of us are like yelling at this guy.

"You, you don't know,

'this guy, this guy has a Min brother,

"he was adopted and we're going to Long Island to go see..."

And, and, and the guy was, "Yeah, right." You know.

"Here's, here's your ticket have a good day."

And onto Long Island we went.

So, we go! there.

But it's like, the middle of the night.

And ifs this really quiet neighborhood.

So, we get out of the car.

And walk up this little path to the house.

And the lights were on in the house.

And I reached out to knock on the door

and as I reached out to knock on the door it opens.

And there I am.

His eyes were my eyes and my eyes were his eyes

and it's true.

They looked exactly alike.

They're duplicates o! each other.

There was no doubt in my mind that (hey were twins.

He's going, "Oh my God." I'm going, "Oh my God."

He's going, "Holy crap." I'm going, "Holy crap."

They just looked at each other and they moved...

Every time Bobby moved his head, Eddy moved

and then Eddy would move and then Bobby would move,

like, like they were looking at a mirror.

L! was the weirdest thing.

Il was like the world faded away,

and it was just me and Eddy.

So, I'm in the newsroom, it's the middle of a busy day,

we got a call {rum somebody

who says they have an amazing story to tell us,

we are not gonna believe this story,

and my first reaction, "Ah, it's a hoax."

So, Hold our reporter, "I wanna rem a plane."

In those days we had enough money to do this.

"I wanna rent a plane, I wanna see these two kids face to lace

"or I don't believe this."

We flew lhejoumalist up to Sullivan Community College

and he called me and he said, "Howie, it's true, it's true.

And I remember saying, "Oh my God, this is a great story.

"This is a memorable heart-warming story."

And then the story went from being amazing to incredible, OK,

from amazing to incredible.

I was on the New York Subway.

Quite late at night.

Read an article about two boys who found each other.

That were twins separated at birth

and found each other

alSullivan County Community College.

There was no picture. but the story was fascinating.

I came home, and went to sleep.

My mother came into the room

and said, "Wake up, wake up, I have to show you something."

And she shows me a newspaper

with a picture of two boys

and I had to like, focus and I looked a! the photograph

and I said, "Is that David?"

And she's like, "No, but look at (he hands.“

And I was like, "Holy mackerel. This is beyond amazing."

It was a picture in the newspaper of two guys,

in (he "Post" and I picked up the picture

and I looked at it,

and I was like in shock,

cos the two guys in the "Post" looked exactly, exactly

like, like my friend David. I shred a! it.

And it wasn't even just the look on their face.

It was the way that they were holding their hands.

They have these big meaty hands. And David always had this,

these hands that looked like baseball mitts.

And when I saw their hands, I just knew that this is David.

It was just a normal day.

I got to school, ran into my buddy Alan.

He said, "David, take a look a! this.“

And he's got a copy of the "New York Post“.

And, er... he opens it up

and says, "Look a! this.

"Look, look familiar?" Something to that efiecl.

And I said, "Yeah, right. Sure."

But then we looked at it a little bit more closely.

It was an article, it said,

"Twins reunited after more than 19 years."

And it had a picture of two of what looked like me.

L! all started to sink in.

"Holy shit, oh my God.

"Do you? This is un... this is not believable,

"this is, this is unbelievable. Wow!

"This is big, this is serious,

"this is just not some kind of crazy coincidence.

"This is not a minor resemblance.

'This is real, this is happening,

"this is really, really serious."

I ditched classes and got home.

My mother was waiting at the kitchen table

with a cup of coffee.

And I said, "Mom, you see this?"

She said, "You see this?" And we kinda exchanged newspapers.

Il had, "...bom Long Island Jewish Hospital."

"July 12th, 1961."

And it was Louise Wise adoption agency.

Imean, I always knew growing up that I was adopted,

My parents were always open about it.

Bu! it said Eddy Galland of New Hyde Park, Long Island,

Robert Shafran of Scarsdale, New York.

I remember it said,

"Son oi prominent Scarsdale physician Mort Shaimn"

and, er... my first thought, I said,

"He's got the wealthy family.

"That 805's probably driving a Benz! He go! a donor!"

And I remember being with David in (he kitchen.

We were like, really nervous.

I mean we were, you know, jumping around, it was...

You know, we were 19 years old. I mean this was surreal.

And David picked up the phone and he called Information,

and he reached Eddy's mom.

And I said, "Hi, is Eddy home?"

She says, "No, who's calling, please?"

And I thought, 'OK,

“now I've gotta go into this whole thing on the phone."

lsaid, "Well, my name is David Kellman,

"and I was born July 12th 1961

"and I'm looking a! a newspaper

"and, er... basically I think I'm looking at two of me.

"I think I might be the third."

And I think she dropped the phone, actually.

And I remember hearing her voice over the phone,

"Oh my God, they're coming out of the woodwork!"

It was a miracle.

The first time that the boys met together,

the three together was at my house.

And the three of them ended up

like puppies wrestling on the floor.

Il was the most incredible...

it was the most incredible thing.

They belonged to each other.

They knew each other. There was no formal introduction.

I mean, when you meet somebody for the first time

you don't end up rolling around on the floor with them.

It was truly no! fully believable.

Even though it was happening it was still surreal.

You think you're dreaming.

You're looking and you're still "Oh my God."

You look at the other one, "Oh my God."

And then you realize that they're looking at you

or everybody else is looking at you loo.

To have all three of (hem in the house at onetime...

It... it was really madness.

My emotions were shock, shock and more shock.

I mean, I can'! explain it,

I haven't got the terminology.

One of our reporters came running over to me and said

'You're not gonna believe (his,

"you are not gonna believe the call we just got.

"You know the two kids on the front page today?

"Well, there's a third."

They even moved (he same way.

All of us just sat back

and watched three separate lives becoming one.

The way I put it was

I looked more like Eddy than I did David,

and more like David than I did Eddy,

and more like either of them than they did like each other.

Does that make sense?

And then we started comparing notes.

What do 19-year-olds compare?

Booze, cigarettes, food, women, music, cars.

I had just broughta brand new Mercury Capri, which I loved.

And Bobby had this, Maroon beat up old Volvo

with cracked leather seats and I'm thinking,

"Hmm, son of a prominent Scarsdale physician, huh?"

I think it was Eddy who said

right at the beginning,

"I don't know if this will turn out to be great or terrible."

So, there was always a question mark, a big question mark,

about where the story eventually was going.

We didn't realize from (hen on

just how much things were going to change.

'Now one of the most remarkable stories I've seen in sometime:

'a story about triplets.

'Eddy and Robert and David reunited after 19 years.'

'We have a story about triplets that gives new meaning

'to the phrase long lost brothers.'

We went on everything. Everything.

'You're not seeing double

'you are perhaps in a moment going to be seeing triple.'

'I don't know who's who here.

'Come on out here, gentlemen, come on out.'

You just had to stop what you're doing

and watch (hem on every different show.

It became a circus, it became a media circus.

Talk about viral, I mean this was... it was viral even then.

'You guys have been on the front page of every newspaper

- 'in the world.' - True.'

"People Magazine", 'Time Magazine",

even the "New York Times", "Good Housekeeping".

'David, let's begin with you.

'Which one': David, I keep forgetting?'

- 'You're Edward?' - 'Right!

'OK, who are you, are you David?'

- 'I'm Bobby.' - 'Oh, you're... I'm sorry.

'You're Robert, all right. Robert and Edward.'

'Come on.'

ll was a fairy tale story.

And people need to hear wonderful things.

'These three young men,

'they're all seated in the same position.'

It was kind of amazing. They really were strangers.

They looked identical to each other

but they were strangers, right?

You know, they really didn't know one another.

But their behaviors were so similar.

'Our lives are parallel toa phenomenal degree.

'It's, it's ridiculous.'

'We're all the same,

'as soon as we started discussing our personalities.'

'Personalities are the same, our gestures are the same.'

'We always talk a! the same time.'

'I'll start a sentence and he'll finish it.'

'We all like Chinese load.'

'You were all wrestlers at one time?'

'Yes.'

'You all smoke the same brand of cigarettes?'

'Yes.'

'What kind of cigarettes do you smoke?'

'Marlboro!

'Do you all smoke the same brand?'

'Yes.'

- 'Do you like the same colors?' - Wes.'

'Yeah, I was curious, how's their taste in women,

- 'is it similar?' - 'Yes. Definitely.'

Il seems they all liked older women.

'Somebody said you all liked older women.'

'Well...'

'Another astonishing coincidence

'is that each of the brothers grew up with an adoptive sister,

'all the girls now 21 years old.'

'I can't get over it, I (ell you.'

'An extraordinary string o! coincidences

'you all have to agree, right?'

'It's beautiful.'

'You say you love each other,

'but you're only known each other for such a short time.'

'Doesn't matter, I've known them my whole life.'

'How long did it take for you to have that feeling?'

'Like that.'

They were more like clones

than they were like brothers.

It was just absolutely astounding because they grew up

it would appear to be pretty different households.

We'd been adopted by a blue-collar family,

a middle-class family and a more affluent family.

Bobby's parents, Bobby's father was a medical doctor.

And his mother was an attorney.

So they were very well educated and they were living

in one of the most prestigious areas of the country.

Eddy's father was a teacher, he had a college education.

And they lived in what would be considered

a middle-class neighborhood.

My family on paper were the least educated,

they were immigrants, English was a second language to them,

they had a little store,

they were the more blue-collar family.

Hmm, but my father was just

this incredibly generous warm guy.

David's father, Richard was, uh... was larger than life.

If you could imagine this guy was a big guy,

with a big cigar always hanging out of his mouth.

We referred to him as 'bubalai

He was Buhala.

If you know Yiddish, 'bubala' it's like love,

it's hugging and it's kissing.

We spent more time a! David's house

than any place else.

Bubala celebrated us like no other person.

He said, "I have two more sons."

When the boys found each other

it just sort of happened

(hen and there.

Here is this wonderful story

and that's it.

Nobody questioned what was going on

except the parents of course.

When the families met up (he first time

there was great anger in all a! them

about the tact that the parents had never been told

that there were two other children.

They didn't tell us a word when we were adopting.

We knew nothing about the other two

until, er... the boys met at, at school,

that was 20 years later.

The first thing that hit me was what they lost.

I believe they were six months old when they were separated.

If you imagine those three little bodies lying together

and suddenlythe coldness of being alone in a crib.

It's a terrible deprivation.

I remember being (old by my mother

when I was a baby that I would slam my head against the wall,

I would basically knock myself out.

My mother said that I would bang my head

on the inside of the crib...

...and I would hold my breath until I passed out.

I believe it was absolutely separation anxiety

All of us had been adopted from Louise Wise Services.

'Louise Wise Services,

'the New York institution founded back in 1915

'overseen by a board of directors

'drawn from New York City's

'social, financial and political elite.'

They were the pre-eminent adoption agency

on the East Coast for Jewish babies in particular.

That was the place to go.

What we have felt

at Louise Wise Services

where I have been active

for a great longtime,

is that adoptive parents should be told

as much about the background of a child as is reasonable.

Our parents they, they, they wanted answers, they were angry.

And they arranged a meeting and they... the six of them

went in to Louise Wise Agency to try to get some answers

in terms of piecing together what happened.

There was a meeting with the top brass at the agency.

And they were asked,

"Is it true that you separated these boys at birth?"

And they said, 'Yes, we did."

Why?

How could you not tell us?

What did you do?

Why and how could you?

They said the reason was

because it was hard to place three children in one home.

The parents had been told that

it was in our best interests that we'd been split up.

That not every parent would welcome triplets,

and that triplets would be difficult to place.

Which... I think at that moment my father blew his shack.

And just said, "We wouldWe taken all three.

'There's no question." And he was furious.

Well, the meeting came to an end.

They all left.

They felt like they had gotten nothing.

And my father realized that he had left his umbrella in there.

And he went back to gel the umbrella.

And he walked inlo the room

to see them breaking open a bottle of champagne...

and toasting each other as if they had dodged a bullet.

They looked like they'd just missed getting hurl

or killed or what have you.

It was a, er... that was memorable.

All of our parents came away from that meeting angry.

The parents went to some pretty prestigious New York law firms

and initially they were met with a lot of enthusiasm,

and, er... invariably within a shun period oiiime

were told, er... there's a conflict

and they could not take the case.

The'; said, "We have a number of associates

'who are trying to adopt through Louise Wise,

"and we don't wanna ruin their chances."

So, that lawsuit was out.

We were too happy being together to be that angry.

We didn't understand it and to a degree we almost didn't care.

Our heads were in the clouds,

we knew our parents were pissed off

but it was almost like, "Well, that's our parents' thing to do"

while we were out partying.

♪ KIM WILDE: "Kids In America"

I' Friday night and everyone's moving...

This was New York in 1880.

Drugs were different, people were different,

sex was different, music was different.

Phew! We just, we just wok advantage of all those things.

Sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll.

I We're the kids in America, whoa... J?

They were running amok in New York, I'll say.

Studio 54 was cooking. Limelight. Copacabana.

They were hitting them all.

New York loved us. New York lowed us.

All the newspapers were following the boys around

no matter where we went.

I remember one morning walking in

and my mother throwing the "New York Post" at me,

at the kitchen table saying, "I gotta look a! the paper

"to find out where you were last night?"

The boys thought they were gonna be stars,

and actually they did star in one movie.

Walking down the street, all of a sudden we hear,

"Guys, guys, you're the guys!

"Could you please be in our movie?

"Please be in my movie."

We didn't know who she was, and she was, she was Madonna.

The stood on the side and ogled her.

Pretty soon we got an apartment together,

the triplets apartment.

The triplefs apartment.

Hmm, ifs like if you had the most bachelor apartment

times three.

The liquor store used to deliver the liquor,

At one point Eddy had appendicitis.

He had no insurance.

And so he checked into the hospital as Bobby.

And had his appendix taken out. As Bobby.

I hope to this day Bobby's appendix stays pretty healthy.

Between working together, playing together,

going out together, going on dams together,

living together,

from the time we me! till... well (ill later

there was nothing, nothing that could keep us apart.

I feel like I was the firs! serious girlfriend.

Initially I couldn't really tell them apart

and I would bump into them

and I waswtquite sure

which one I was going outwith, so...

Bob has this very raw, natural, type of intelligence

that I think I was attracted too.

I always thought David was the best, right,

of the three of them.

L, I've said it before, you know,

"I got the pick of the litter."

Without a douM, Eddy wasthe, er... handsomest

of all the three triplets, you know.

Of course, I'm partial

but, you know, I adored him.

When I met him, he was the last holdout.

The Casanova of the three and, er... I said,

"Oh boy, this guy's a real bachelor, like player."

But he was so warm in his smile

and he had wonderful beautiful hands, soft hands

and when I shook his hand I mean, I just, l...

You know, I just loll in love with him.

I'm from a big colorful Irish catholic family

and he was a Jewish guy.

When he came (u the house for the first time,

he looked at my dad and he said,

"I don't know if you know this, Mr Shanley,

"I've been seeing Brenda every night pretty much

"since the first day I met her."

And I thought, "Oh my God,

"my dad knows that, you know, we're together every night."

And my dad just son of, you know, looked at me like, "OK"

and that was Eddy.

-'I do.' -'l do.'

'We love you.'

Everyone loved him.

If there was a scale, Bobby would be reserved,

David would be middle

and Eddy was just the loveable, mushy,

huggahle, funny,

you know, he just exuded warmth and love.

'Jamie's first Thanksgiving with Daddy.'

- 'Hi, look who's here.' - 'Yes, Daddy.'

'Daddy decided to show up

'and make a special guest appearance.'

I 'Happy birthday, dear Jamie

J"Happy birthday to you?

He loved family gatherings.

You know, Eddy really, really loved

being around David and Bobby.

Eddy seemed to gel the most out of the three of them meeting.

For whatever reason.

He wanted his brothers and him to have a beautiful life

and everyone to gel along

and he wanted everyone to he one big family.

Eddy was absolutely the driving force

in terms of leading the search for our birth mother.

He got a fever and he just wanted to do it.

And Alan was also rallying,

because it was just an exciting (hing to do.

We figured what are the chances

of having triplets born in New York

on July 12th 1961.

We figured out that New York public library

shaved birth records.

We each grabbed a book

and um! page by page W W3“! W?!“ “W,

and within a couple of hours, it was, "Bingo!"

Male, male, male. Three in a row.

All horn July 12th 1961.

Right next lo it, birth mother's last name.

The first meeting was a bar on like, 47th Street.

It was like, her local neighborhood watering hole

on the East side, and I! was awkward.

She told the story of what happened.

Unfortunately it wasn't a romantic story.

She was a young girl.

Basically, prom night knock up type thing.

I don't think she ever go! over the fact

that she had triplets and had to give them up.

You know, to us at 19,

you drink like a fish, you think you're invincible.

But we found it a little concerning

that she was pretty much keeping up with us, you know.

Er... the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree

and it that's the tree, I was less than thrilled,

and we had our parents already, so we met her and I! was OK.

But she was not a particularly close pan of our lives.

We were all young and starting our marriages and careers.

'Hi, welcome to Triplets.'

'David Kellman, Eddy Galland and Robert Shafran

'are identical triplets.

'Now they run a New York restaurant called,

'what else, you guessed, Triplets,'

'Welcome. Hello. Welcome, welcome.'

We had a lot of people who were coming for us.

They came to see the triplets.

They wanted to be waited on by one of the triplets.

We sewed vodka frozen blocks of ice,

and we'd get the whole roam up and dancing.

It was like this big party going on,

it was like this big Bar Millvah.

'Triplets become wildly successful

'owning a restaurant

'in the Soho district of New York City.'

We did over a million dollars firs! year.

That's when things kinda got funky.

In the mid-90s I started working on a story

for "The New Yorker" magazine

about identical twins reared apart.

I've always thought,

"What would it be like if you turned

"the corner one day and you saw yourself?"

In the process of my research,

I came across (his obscure scientific article.

Il referenced this secret study

in which identical siblings had been separated.

I was shocked and intrigued.

They were separating identical babies a! birth

for the purpose of this scientific experiment.

And these babies had all come

from one adoption agency in New York City.

'The first thing out of my mouth

'was, "Were you adopted?'

There I am, this can'! he real.'

'Twins separated a! birth.'

'Eddy and Robert and David reunited after 19 years.'

'It's beautiful.'

'Blue-collar family, middle-class family

'and a more affluenl family.'

'Adoptive parents should be (old as much as is reasonable.'

'Something was just no! right.'

'They were breaking open a bottle of champagne

'as if they had dodged a bullet.'

'All of us were adopted from Louise Mse.'

'Louise Wise.'

'And these babies had all come from Louise 'Wise Services.'

Lawrence Wright called me

and he told me all about the experiment.

And I said, "This is like Nazi shit."

ll was kind of like reality hitting like a tidal wave.

We were a science experiment.

These people split us up and studied us like lab rats.

We didn't recognize this stuff until it was put in our face.

Until it was in newsprint.

But there were clues in the past,

I remember from a very young age...

mpeople would come to the house...

"usually a young man and a young woman.

And they had me taking tests.

They did IO tests, personality inventory tests,

they did eye hand co-ordination tests.

I do remember people coming to the house, having tests done,

square pegs and round holes, and Rorschach ink block tests.

"What does (his mean to you?" that kind of stuff.

Eddy told me that when he was younger,

he remembers people watching him and taking notes,

and they would ask him questions

and he would get frustrated with (he questions.

And he remembers they were videotaping him.

I remember the filming more than anything else.

I remember having superflmm films taken of me

when I was on the swing set, or on the slide.

Every single time they came they filmed.

Riding my bike, throwing a ball,

and they wanted to see how many times I could,

you know, go on my pogo stick, roller-skating,

throwing a Frisbee, shooting a how and arrow,

you know, they had my attention.

I was performing.

The stuff they did would be more complex as I got older.

Hell weird about it, I didn't really understand

why they needed to some so often,

why were they asking me all these questions.

Somewhere around age of nine or ten

I started becoming less comfortable with it,

and it was kinda like, "Mom, do I still have to do this?

"Do I still have to do this?"

When our parents adopted us

they were each (old that we were being followed

as pan of a normal study

of the development of adopted children,

They had no idea that we'd been separated.

The agency said the children born in this period of time

were all gonna be in a normal study of adopted children.

And, as far as we knew, (hat was it.

Thai this was a new thing they were going to follow up

with all the children and at the time we accepted it.

You're talking about a group of people

that went and held a baby

and did psychological testing on a six-month-old baby,

and then went to another house to see his brother,

and then went to another house to see his brother,

and did this over years and years and years and years

with full knowledge

that we were within a 100-mile radius.

And not knowing each other.

It's just unconscionable.

Who would think that anybody would he evil enough

to come up with something like this?

In the process of my research,

I learned is that the person really in charge o! (he study

was Dr Peter Neubauer,

very distinguished psychiatrist in New York,

director of the Freud archives.

He was an Austrian refugee from the Holocaust

and he set up shop in New York and became, you know,

one of the great men of psychiatry in America.

What I learned is that people at the Louise Wise agency

were separating identical siblings

and then a beam o! scientists led by Neuhauer

would follow them.

But it wasn't just the triplets.

There were others.

After my article came out

another twin set discovered themselves.

'And here they are now.

'I appreciate you coming on the show today.'

- 'Our pleasure.' - 'Paula and Elyse.'

'The story is incredible. Is that the way to tell it?'

'It's funny. I mean, we say I! I! hadn't happened to us

- 'we wouldn't believe it.' - 'This is a Disney movie.'

'It's a little darker than a Disney movie.

'I was at home in my apartment in Brooklyn

'with my two-year-old daughter,

'and the phone rings and I answer the phone

'and it was the adoption agency.

“We've got some news for you, you've go! a twin sister.

"And she's looking for you!"

'You were both editors of your high school paper,

'you both went to film school.'

'Well, it's funny because I don't know if you noticed...'

'Our mannerisms are inherited.'

'I contacted the adoption agency

'and I asked them, "Well, why we were separated?“

'That's the million-dollar question of this story.'

'And they said, "For a twin study."

'We felt that our lives had been orchestrated

'by these scientific researchers

'who put their scientific needs,

'research needs or desires, their career interests

'before the needs of us, and the interests of us

'and other twins and triplets who were separated.'

Nobody is sure of how many identical twins

were involved in this study.

I was told six to eight, but we don't really know.

When you have a study like this,

normally you produce the results

and you show how large (he sample is

and all this son of thing.

But this study was never published,

Which makes it all the more intriguing.

We did have an attorney

try to get us some of the study records.

We received a small amount of information.

Il was very dry, technical data,

that didn't really shed any light

on the reasons for the study. It was garbage.

I don't know what the results were,

or if there ever were results because I never saw them.

They're trying to conceal what they did

from the people they did it to.

Why?

I mean, what was the purpose of it?

The study was never published. Why?

My name is Natasha Josefowilz...

...and I was PelerNeubaueFs research assistant.

So, come on in. Would you like a cup of coffee?

Here are some of my buddies.

Michelle Obama and I. She is very tall.

I'm like a little shrimp next to her,

I come up to her right here.

This is Obama three years ago,

and here he is holding my latest hook.

I have lo bell you. lsaid, "Barack, I love you."

He said, "I love you too", and he gave me a kiss on this cheek.

Yeah. This is Robert Redford and Al Gore.

And this is Errol Flynn and me when I was 18.

I thought he was a hoot.

Picasso's.

When are we gonna talk about the twin study?

You need to know lam no! part of the team,

lam a peripheral person. I just do the hearsay.

The first time I heard about the twin study,

it was still just a dream in Peter's head.

What was he like'!

Hmm... sexy, nice looking, interesting.

His background was very Freudian.

Anna Freud, Freud's daughter,

would often some and visit with him.

He was very focused on wanting to make a diflerence

in children's lives.

Peter started thinking, wouldn't I! be interesting

to have a study of mothers

who wanted to give up their children.

Who happen to be identical twins

and then could he separated at birth?

If we could put (hem in two totally different environments,

we would put to rest the dilemma,

nature or nurture, forever.

Now you may think, "Oh, (his is terrible, you know,

"how could you do this?"

You have lo put yourself back in the late 50s and 60s.

This was not something that seemed to be bad.

Nobody said, "To take children apart, how terrible."

That was not at all in anyone's thoughts.

This was a very exciting time.

Psychology was just beginning to be the big deal

that everybody was talking about.

This was all in terms of research. An opportunity.

One of the great questions that science has ever asked

is "How do we become (he people we are,

"how much of nature versus how much of nurture

"shapes us into the people that we become?“

I did not go and do the research.

But I would hear about it because I was in the office.

What they found out, was incredible.

'Our lives are parallel toa phenomenal degree.

'It's, it's ridiculous.'

'We're all the same,

'as soon as we started discussing our personalities.'

'Personalities are the same, our gestures are the same.'

'We always talk a! the same time.'

'You were raised in different homes?'

True.'

I did not believe that it'd be as much hereditary as it was,

that was more than any of us thought.

'I'll start a sentence and he'll finish it.'

'We all like Chinese load.'

'You were all wrestlers at one time?'

'Yes.'

- 'You all smoke cigarettes?' - Wes.'

'Do you all smoke the same brand?'

'Yes.'

- 'Do you like the same colors?' - Wes.'

'How's their taste in women, is it similar?'

'Yes. Definitely.'

We are moved l0 behaviors

that we are totally unconscious about.

'You were hath editors of your high school paper,

'you both went to film school.'

'I don't know ii you noticed...'

'Our mannerisms are inherited.'

It's disturbing, we don't like that.

People don't like to hear, they say, "I have free will."

We would prefer that we have some influence over our lives.

Wouldn't you rather know that'?

Thai you have some control over this

and so finding out, never mind, doesn't matter what you do.

So, I think it's upsetting to people

to see how little influence they have,

how little control they have.

We don't like that, we fight that.

If the conclusions of the study were so shocking

and so earth-shaking,

why haven't you published your study?

There is a lot that we don't know.

We have anecdotes that are very provocative,

but we don't know, we don't have the data.

I don'! know what happened to the sludy.

I moved to Switzerland in 1965

and lost touch with what was going on.

All that research should be seen.

This study was the first, and it's also the last,

it will never be done again, il will never be replicated.

It's monumental, it's a monumental study.

In terms of the motivation that they used

c» justify what they did,

I don't even care because, I...

It's natjustifiahle what they did.

You know what?

Coming from the Holocaust,

our family has a knowledge

that when you play with humans...

...you do something very wrong.

And I really believe that because of this research,

these three boys did no! have happy endings.

'What were some of the similarities

'you found that you had as you were all growing up

'in your own respective households?'

'We all smoked the same cigarettes when we met,

'we all wrestled in high school and junior high,

'we all loved the same food, er...

'our taste in women was similar.'

'What are some of the stranger things

'you found out you had in common?

'Any other more surprising discoveries?'

'Well, sometimes when you think

'you're having a unique though! or idea

'and you go to share it with someone

'and they say, "Your brother just told me."

- 'It's a little annoying.' - 'It's funny.'

'It's a little annoying, it's unnerving.'

Being in business with my brothers

damaged our relationship.

There were conflicting work ethics,

and my father had passed away.

He really anchored us together as a group

and kepi (he peace so lo speak,

They started to argue like kids would argue, you know.

And they didn't have that opportunity,

that gilt of being able to be brothers for 18 years.

When you are living in a family of children

you learn how w adjust to each other.

If I don't like the way you do this, I can get angry,

or I can learn to compromise.

But they met as adults.

And had never learned how to live with each other.

As things went on, things go! more complicated,

and as things got more complicated,

what ended up happening was I left.

When Bobby left the business

Eddy and I felt that we were being betrayed.

Bobby felt that he was being pushed out.

Either way, it did major, major damage to the relationship.

I think that took an extreme loll on Eddy

more sothan I think David and Bobby.

Eddy was always the one

who just wanted to have everybody he at peace together,

and Eddy was, was very upset about it.

He was kind oi crushed about it. Ii was eating at him.

He dearly loved them,

and he wanted his brothers to be together.

He was just not really sure how lo deal with it all.

You're just seeing a lat more kind of up and down behaviors,

erratic behaviors.

'Eddy's growing a heard.'

'Fur face, that's me.'

'Jeez, wake the child.'

'Jamie, your daddy is fuzzy.'

You're just seeing a lot more unnatural highs and lows.

He would call people and... a! bizarre hours 01 the evening,

and then they would say,

"I haven't seen or heard from Eddy in ten years.

"Why is he picking up the telephone and calling me

"at two o'clock in the morning?"

You know, those are, those are signs.

This was just... this was more

than just somebody who needed counselling.

This was, like, really something very, very serious.

He could be unbelievably chamuing.

'Hello?

Bu! the downswing was a lot of anger.

Er... there was just deep, deep darkness.

Manic depression

I think was what they eventually said.

Il made sense in hindsight

I didn't walk down the aisle

thinking, you know,

"I have a man who is suiferi ng from manic depression."

People will say, "How could you not know?", but...

...he was so unique and so wonderful and special,

you just... that was Eddy, you know.

I was advised that he needed to he in a... a facility.

I mean, I felt bad that I put him through this trauma

of going into a psych ward

because I had been in a psych ward and I know how hard I! is.

When I was a kid, I spent my 16th birthday in a psych ward.

We all were really disturbed kids.

We were all under psychiatric care when we were teenagers.

We all had very challenging

and dysfunctional teenage years.

Could we ask about personal.

One of you were involved in a murder,

is that right?

Ah, it's uptn you guys.

No. No.

People Magazine...

One was accused of being involved in a murder.

And it was me,

who never met this person who was killed,

never was present or anything like that.

Il was peer pressure.

Friends pressuring me into covering for them,

telling a story for them lathe police

and that pulled me right into it.

I've never hurt anyone in my life.

We know it, we can feel it.

We can feel it.

A lot of people in this study had dysfunctional childhoods

and some mental problems

and it raises questions, you know.

If you are a person who has devoted your life,

like Dr Neubauer has to the study o! menial illness,

then is that a factor that you are researching?

'The story is incredible. This is a Disney movie.'

'It's a little darker than a Disney movie.'

When we first met we realized we had all these similarities,

we had similar man nerisms,

we both had studied film.

And then we also found out

we both had suffered from depression.

So, this is the lefler

that I received from Louise Wise Services.

"You were born at 12.51 pm on October 919GB

"to a 29-year-old Jewish single woman.

"She was very intelligent with a high IO.

"She entered college on a merit scholarship

"but emotional problems interrupted her attendance,

"She had a history of voluntary hospitalizations

"for emotional problems.

"Although I have not been able lo locate

"the original medical reports, secondary sources noted

"that your mother's diagnosis was schizophrenia."

It was really disturbing to read that my birth mother

had been in and out of institutions.

I started finding out more

about the other twins and triplets in the study,

and it turns out that not only had many of them

struggled with mental health problems.

But that their birth parents had mental health issues.

And their adoptive families had never been told.

How possible is it

that your mother had mental health issues?

Er... I don't think they were severe.

L, I think that she was, er...

She may have had some minor, minor issues, er...

She may have had some, a little bit more than minor issues.

Were (he scientists purposefully choosing children

whose biological parents had a mental illness,

and placing them into different homes

to see, is mental illness hereditable.

Eddy was in the hospital

for I think it was three weeks.

And then he came back to work at the restaurant.

I wasn't there. David was with him, all the time.

I think maybe he can give you better detail about it.

I was running the kitchen.

Eddy wasn't in. I was running the kitchen,

he was running the from 01 the house.

That's the way it worked.

And I didn't know where he was, and he lived across the street.

So, David called me from the restaurant

and he asked me to look out the window

to see if Eddy's car was in the driveway,

because if it were in (he driveway,

we knew that he was home.

So, (he car was in the driveway,

and I said to David, er...

"Do you want me to go over there?"

And David said, "Yes."

And she called me back a few minutes later

and her voice was trembling and shaking.

She said, "You've gotta come home."

And I said, "Why?"

And she said, "Please, you've just gotta come home."

Er...

And I, er... I pulled up we lived across the street.

Ipulled up, kind of, just... cop cars were all there

and I just kind of, pulled up on... you know,

blocking half the street, left the door open

and started running into the house

and the cops grabbed me and they wouldn't let me come in.

They said, "You don't, you don't wanna see this.

"You can't see this, you don't wanna see this.

"You, you don't wanna see this."

And that's when I knew he was gone.

I told Bobby, "I need to talk to you."

And it's as if he, he kind o! knew.

He kind of knew, before the words came out of my mouth.

Eddy committed suicide.

Eddy shot himself.

He look his own life.

I don't remember who told us. I just remember darkness.

Buried him on Father's Day, I gave the eulogy,

and I don't remember everything I said,

but I do remember saying (ha! my brother Eddy

could light up a room with his smile.

W“? Edd? wh ' I' Edd ? why not n19? Y

I've asked myself that a hundred times.

I'd rather it was me than Eddy.

I, I don't know why Eddy and why no! me.

Maybe just because...

I don'! know, I just don't know.

L, I, I can't answer this.

Thank you, Bobby.

Oh, you're welcome.

I'd like to know the lruth about the experiment.

My understanding, within this small group of twins

that were separated and studied,

(here was more than one suicide.

It's almost impossible just to be a coincidence.

Given Eddy's mental illness...

...who knows what's in their DNA.

If they have anything conclusive

that is in any way predicting anything in the future

that I need to know about, I wanna know about it.

There is still so much that we don't know.

I have more questions than I have answers.

One v1 the things about being a joumalisi

is that you don't know what you are gonna find out.

Sometimes you know what you didn't find out

which is frustrating like with this story.

Well, I didn't get to the bottom of it

because I never got to see the study.

As no one has, you know.

That would be the bottom of it.

But that's why this is so tantalizing.

Here's the research that I kept

from when I was writing about twins.

It's been a while since I've had a look at this box.

Oh, this is interesting.

Mini cassettes.

Before he passed away I managed to talk to Dr Neubauer.

He was reluctant,

he had not ever spoken about it to my knowledge.

All right, M's see what he has to say.

'OK, I've got it on now.

'How did (his study come about?'

'I tell you,

'I would rather not want to speak about it.'

'Oh, really? Why?'

'Until we have published it.'

'Oh, uh-huh. When do you plan to publish it?'

'Well, maybe, we would publish

'in about a year, a year and a half from now.'

He was certainly illusive,

he was protecting something.

'Well, tell me a little bit about the scope of the study

'and how many people were involved in it?'

'The study was only based on a small number

'of identical twins separated at birth,

'for many, many reasons.

'I don! want to talk about that now.

'We had to stop it because it became too expensive.'

'Who was your primary support?'

'Oh. some private family foundations.

'We gm some money from Washington.'

'OK.'

Private charities and Washington, what does (ha! mean?

And I don't know where theirfunding came from.

'OK, (hanks again for your time.'

'Bye!

I think that there's a great deal of sensitivity

about this story.

There's a lot of powerful people

who would like to have this story silenced.

What happened to the study

as far as you're aware?

Before Neubauer died in 2008,

he left all (he research materials

in an archive at Vale University.

Neubauer placed it under seal, for decades and decades.

So far as I know nobodfs been able to access it.

Er... what do we have here?

Wow.

This is the Vale University website, and this appears to be

the Guide to Adoption Study Records

of the Child Development Center.

68 boxes filled with information:

charts, films and tapes and research findings.

Home visits, that's a big one.

It says that the dates of the study were from 1960 to 1980.

I guess our reunion, kind of closed the study.

"Information about access.

"The records are restricied until 2065."

It's sealed!

So, they did all that they did

to have this whole list tucked away

in a dusty library somewhere, where nobody can touch it.

"Researchers wishing to use these records

"before this date must secure

"written authorization from the Jewish Board

"of Family and Children's Services."

The Jewish Board was the parent organization

of the Child Development Center run by Peter Neubauer.

My understanding is that

they are a very, very powerful organization

with very deep political connections,

'Thank you for calling

'the Jewish Board of Family and Children Services.'

'Hello!

Yes, hi. My name is David Kellman, er...

and apparently, I was a, one of the subjects of a study,

run by the Child Development Center many years ago,

and it's being kept at Yale University.

- Wes?' - And on their website it says

that I would need permission from (he board

in order to gain access to those records,

and somehow (he receptionist gal me to you.

'Huh. 0K. Er...

'I'm not aware of any of that stufl or when the study was,

'hut I can...'

There have been a number of journalists

and as far as I know, some of the twins

that were involved in (his study

who have tried to gain access to this material.

So far as I know they haven't been able lo see

the results of this study.

Is there a way that I can go directly to someone

that would he able to provide access to me,

as I was one of the subjects within the study?

If anybody should have the right to see all this material,

it's the people that were actually

the subject oi the study.

They should know what was learned.

'I mean, I have no idea

'who would even be the one to ask right now.

'I would need to look into that.'

OK, so you're the first line of delense, so (o speak.

'l guess, yeah.'

OK, I will send an email to you. I'll pulaflhe subject line,

is going to be, er... "Twin Studies".

'Gotcha!

Louise Wise Services is long closed.

Peter Neubauer passed away.

And yet we still don! know exactly

what they were looking for, or what they found out.

I'm a Clinical Psychologist

and I was a research assistant on Peter Neuhauefs study.

I believe I am the only person

who worked on this study

who is willing

to go on record

about what was done.

I was 24.

This is essentially my first job.

You know, you had to be careful to not let on that, er...

"Gee, you lookjust like your, your twin brother."

I would've been fired on the spot, right?

Il was a little tempting, yeah,

there was, there was a little bit of temptation.

It's like, "Hey, I, I know your twin.

"I saw somebody a week ago who was exactly like you."

The question whether I feel guilty is interesting

because I never felt a responsibility.

I came on after this was designed.

However. I was a participant,

so you could say I was ethically compromised by (hat.

In retrospect I think it was undoubtedly ethically wrong.

I got some notes here. OK.

OK.

These are my actual original notes,

copies of psychologicals (ha! I did.

And who in, who in particular are in these files?

Well, I have the triplets.

Hmm... Oh, here we go.

I, I'm not gonna mention the name. but, er...

"He's a loud, energetic boy.

"His need to establish his autonomy

"takes to the form of showing off,

"both his intelligence and his strength,

"and putting clown others including his parents."

Yeah, this one's eager to show off his new bicycle

and all of his sports equipment while I filmed him.

He was very intense in his play

and got quite... rough.

This kid had some problems.

Hyper aggressiveness.

OK, so apparently,

these parents are not cognizant

of his problems, nor are they able to help him

understand his weaknesses

and establish more appropriate control over his actions.

So, I didn't think the parents were very tuned in

to the struggles this youngster was having.

What were (he findings of [he study?

I have no idea because I left the study after 10 months

and the results were never published,

All I have is my Iiltle, tiny piece.

It's a mystery, it's a huge loss.

All this important scientific data

is just buried in these archives.

So, some people have speculated

that the purpose of the study, ultimate purpose,

was looking at mental health.

I... there was, there was never a mention of mental health

of the biological parents when I was in the study.

We were not interested in mental health,

that's no! what we were interested in.

We were looking for differences in parenting.

We wanted to understand parenting practices

and how it would affect development.

So, you're saying they were interested more

in the family dynamics?

But they couldn't have known that. The}; didn't know

how the families were going to interact

with this newly-adopted child.

The only way they could possibly know

about (he family dynamics

was if they already had a child placed in that family.

'Another astonishing coincidence

'in this story is that each of the brothers

'grew up in iheir families with an adopted sister,

'all the girls now 21 years old.'

The triplets, they all had an older sibling.

They were placed in families

where there was an older adopted child

that had been placed with, by Louise Wise.

That was pan of the design.

It's good to see you.

It's good to see you.

I'd just like to show you guys a clip.

It's Lawrence Perlman, who was a Researcher on the study.

'What were the findings of the study?

'I have no idea because they were never published.

'We were looking for differences in parenting.

'We wanted to understand parenting practices

'and how it would affect development.

'The triplets were placed in families

'where (here was an older adopted child

'that had been placed with, by Louise Wise.

'Thai was pan of the design.'

How do you feel watching that?

Like a lab rat.

It, it only just makes it that much... it just only...

ll just makes it...

- That much worse. - ...much more duplicitous.

Er...

They're not just studying the kids,

but they're studying (he parents.

So, they did in fact know the parenting style of each parent.

So, this was not, you know...

Obviously it was far from a random selection.

They knew exactly who (hey had chosen

lo place each one of us with when they called the Gallands,

and the Kellmans, and the Shafrans.

In terms of how they parented their children

(he three families

were quite, quite diflerenl.

Er...

David's father stood out.

There was nobody in the world like his son.

He was so proud of him. Whatever he did was wonderful.

Bobby's father was very busy as a doctor

and didn't have the time to he with Bobby

that David's father had,

but was as devoted to him as possible.

The most traditional was Eddy's father...

...who was rather strict. He was (he boss.

He made the rules and Eddy was supposed to follow.

Eddy's relationship with his father...

...il couldn't have been good.

And that mailers.

And why do you say it couldn't have been good?

Because otherwise, I would have known him,

we would have seen him,

Eddy would have talked about him.

This was the last picture we ever had of Edward.

He was very gregarious.

He got into all the things young hays do.

He wrecked a car

and a few things like that, but...

I mean, occasionally ldisciplined him.

Eddy and his dad were very different as people.

Eddy was more artsy, kinda kid, you know, he wasn't into sports.

Elliott had a very strong militaristic

kind oi approach to life, very traditional.

He was a teacher, he was all about punctuality.

I was a strict disciplinarian,

and my children unfortunately

had me as a strict disciplinarian too.

Eddy said he always sort of didn't feel

like he fit in with his family.

He always felt like, like he wasn't in the right place.

How much did you have any sense

that Edward was unhappy?

He didn't discuss his problems with me.

We were a rather quiet family.

We didn't tell our problems to one another.

We protected each other. ll was a nice family.

Some people are just no! a good fit.

It wasn't his father's fault.

Elliot did what he believed to be best as a parent.

They were just different people.

I got the phone call from... I believe it was Bobby.

And he told me to sit down

and I said no need to.

And he told me about it.

And then standing right there

I went over to my wife

and told her Edward had committed suicide.

And we stood there for quite a while, crying.

And... that was it.

I often wondered whether I didn't teach him something...

"because of the way he left.

I don't know.

Maybe I didn't teach him something,

how to live life or something.

Thai bothers me occasionally.

Why did the boys' lives turn out completely different?

I don't need to read any hooks,

I don't need to read any studies.

I saw I! first hand with those three boys.

It's all about nurture.

'These three young men

'they are all seated in the same position.'

We found a lot of similariiies

because that's what people were looking for.

They smoke the same kind 01 cigarettes.

You say, "Oh my God,

'They're smoking Marlboros, that's amazing.'

What you're not looking for are their differences.

'I can't get over it, I'm telling you.

'You all wrestled at one time?'

'Yes.'

We found the ways (ha! we were alike

and we emphasized them and we wanted to he alike.

We were falling in love with each other.

I think there were superficialities.

They liked the same things and they had similar interests,

but deep down they were different.

They were not a case study of biology being destiny.

I've come to believe genes and the environment

are close competitors.

You could say that we drift in (he direction

that our genes (ell us to go

but it doesn't mean you are destined

to be one person or another.

I believe that I'm still here today

because of (he foundation that was given to me by my parents.

I believe that absolutely made a difference

in terms of snuggling

with whatever demons I struggle with.

I believe nature and nurture both matter.

Bu! I think nurture can overcome nearly everything.

Because the sludy's never been published

we simply don't know definitively

how many people's lives were separated in this fashion.

There may still be twins out there

who still don'! know (hey are twins.

There are probably at least four individuals

who were subjects of (his study

who don't know that they have a twin.

If they know that there are still twins out there

that are missing out on life, it boggles the mind.

There's two ways of thinking about it.

These people really should know (ha! there is a twin,

or, "Oh my God, these people should not know

"that they were used this way, that will make them so upset."

Maybe this is why the study cannot be published as yet,

until they're gone.

Il really opens up the possibility.

Anybody can just walk around the comer

and discover that you have a twin out there.