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No, rotate.
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You have to rotate it.
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Jesus Christ. May I?
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Thank you.
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That's Linda Tripp.
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Morning, Ron.
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Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp.
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Again. It was alarming enough
to be asked to write a how-to
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manual for my own job,
but it has now been nearly
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one month since I requested
the materials I need to even
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attempt to start on this,
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and-and still
I've received nothing.
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At a minimum,
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I will need my
correspondence books
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and all volumes of the archival
histories of JCOC 59 and 60.
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If anyone cast the slightest
glance at my cubicle,
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they would easily find
all of these on my desk there.
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Lucianne,
have you had any occasion to
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talk to Linda recently?
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I haven't talked to Linda
since, the day
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she wore the wire
to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.
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Judge Starr asked her
not to be in touch.
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- With anyone?
- Right, with anyone.
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Are you surprised that only one
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out of ten Americans
view her favorably?
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No, not with how the White Houe
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and sundry sympathetic
people have
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framed the discussion
of Linda in such a negative wa.
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Do you think it also
might be that people don't
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like people
who tape their friends?
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♪
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Rotate.
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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This is all that there was.
Nothing from your office...
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And I...
I checked the machine.
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This lady named Jane
from The New Yorker,
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she left, like, four messages.
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- She's writing
an article about...
- Fabulous.
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There's absolutely nothing
I can do about that.
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Well, you could at least
call her back and talk to her.
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Allison, my attorney made it
very plain. It would be unwise.
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I would lose my immunity.
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Meanwhile,
the Clintons get to turn me
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into Joseph Goebbels.
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And the whole world
believes them.
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Mom, just come home already.
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I'm sick of staying with Dad.
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Can't blame you on that.
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Look, the reporters are gone
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from our street
and I go by every day.
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Well, you shouldn't.
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It's not safe.
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But there's no one
there anymore.
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I mean, come on. Mom?
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This? This is not healthy.
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You have your grand jury thing,
you are under
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so much stress and you are
just sitting here alone
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all day, reading articles
about yourself.
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It's not just my testimony.
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I'm going to make a statement.
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What do you mean?
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I've decided,
once I have my freedom back,
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I'm going to give a speech.
I'm going to address the nation.
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What are you going to say?
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I'm simply
going to tell my story.
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♪
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It's not fair.
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He didn't get paraded
down to the courthouse.
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He got to testify at home.
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I'm not the president.
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Okay, no, really...
How do I look?
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I'm going for
"not a deranged whore."
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Okay, what do you
want me to say?
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I'm about to be questioned
by 23 strangers,
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and whoever they are,
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I'm sure they already hate me.
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Are you ready?
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We committed ourselves
to a comprehensive strategy
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to lower the crime rate and mae
America a safer place to live.
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- I gave him that tie.
- What?
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Has shown remarkable result.
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It's Zegna.
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I bought it at the Neiman's
in Mazza Gallerie.
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Does he know that she
is testifying today?
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I'm sure.
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Do you think he's trying
to send her a message?
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I mean, is that even legal?
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- Should I tell someone
about that?
- Mom.
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We should resolve to do better.
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It's fine. I'm not going to
let it mess me up.
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She's here,
she's here! She's in that car!
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- Monica!
- Hey, Monica!
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I can save you, Monica!
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You are going to hell!
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Monica, how are you feeling?
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Monica, are you in love
with the president?
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Feel ready?
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I'm just excited to see
the inside of a courtroom.
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You know, this is the first time
Starr's given me anything
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to do beyond secretarial work.
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He is old-fashioned.
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And look, Monica and I
are familiar,
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but Starr does have a point.
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It's better that a woman asks
some of these questions.
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- She's here.
- Okay.
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You can bring in the jury.
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- Are they already in there?
- Yes, they've just been seated.
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We'll be right out here,
anytime you need.
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Good morning.
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You can have a seat right there.
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Can you raise your right hand?
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Sure, yes.
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Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky,
swear to tell the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing but
the truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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Now, Ms. Lewinsky,
what we're going to do
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is we're going to start off
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talking about your relationship
with the president.
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Do I not get
to learn people's names?
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The answer to that is no.
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Um, I know it seems kind of...
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Kind of awkward.
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It's important that the record
have no identifications.
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Okay.
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Now, as we have discussed,
our office feels you'll be more
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comfortable getting certain
questions from Ms. Immergut,
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so I'm going to
turn it over to her now.
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Ms. Lewinsky,
can you tell the grand jury:
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when did you
start your relationship
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with the president
of the United States?
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November 15, 1995.
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Um, it was during the shutdown
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when I was assigned to
the West Wing.
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Can you tell the grand jury
what happened?
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Around...
around 8:00 in the evening
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I was headed into
Mr. Stephanopoulos's office.
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The president... was in there.
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He invited me into
the next room and then...
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we kissed.
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Did anything else
happen between you?
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Um...
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And we were more...
physically intimate after that.
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And what do you mean by that?
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On that occasion, did you
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perform oral sex
on the president?
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God, this is embarrassing.
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I assure you
we won't be dwelling on this.
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Yes, I did.
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Jesus.
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Was there any other
physical intimacy performed?
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Everything up to oral sex.
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Now, to avoid you having
to go into each subsequent
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act of physical intimacy,
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we'll introduce what we
have marked as Exhibit ML-7.
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Did you provide all
the information listed
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on this chart?
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Yes, I did.
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This details each of
your sexual encounters
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with President Clinton.
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To the best of your knowledge,
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is it all accurate?
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Yes. I want to hide
under this table, but yes.
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your
relationship with the president
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have a... non-sexual component?
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- Yes, it did.
- Could you describe that
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for the grand jury?
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Sure, um...
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It was more than just...
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We enjoyed
being with each other.
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He'd... we would tell jokes,
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talk about our childhoods,
current events.
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Sometimes we'd just...
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Um, we'd just be affectionate.
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He'd push my hair
out of my face.
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I think back on it and...
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he always made me smile
when I was with him.
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It was a lot of...
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He was sunshine.
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- We okay for a break?
- Yeah, ten minutes?
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Ten minutes, everyone.
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Moving through your affidavit
here, let me ask you a question.
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Paragraph eight begins,
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"I have never had
a sexual relationship
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with the president."
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Is that true?
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- No.
- Okay,
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so the next logical
follow-up is:
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why were you willing to
say something false
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under penalty of perjury?
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I did not think my...
my private relationship
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was anyone's business.
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No one asked me to lie...
Not the president, not anyone.
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I made that decision.
By myself.
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And I wish I hadn't,
to put it mildly.
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Thank you.
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Now, the grand jury
has some questions for you.
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- Okay.
- Did you and the president
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ever talk about
denying the relationship
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if anyone asked about it?
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I offered that on-on my own.
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I always told him
I would deny it.
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Why did you keep
that stained black dress?
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- It's a blue dress.
- Blue.
- Blue.
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Answer the question, please.
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Well, I have a lot of clothes,
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and so I don't usually
dry-clean things
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until I'm going
to wear them again.
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Like, I don't know
how you guys are,
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but you have clothes
to dry-clean
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and you kind of keep them
in your closet until you
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dry-clean them all together
when you need them.
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And now I feel like
I'm talking about
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dry-cleaning too much and
the process around dry-cleaning.
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Anyway, with that dress...
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I was going to wear it again
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and when I told Linda that,
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she told me
I looked heavy in it.
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Um, so I-I never
ended up wearing it again.
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Ergo I never cleaned it.
Does that answer your question?
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother
ever discourage
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your relationship
with the president?
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Yes.
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Well, then, what kept it going?
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I fell in love.
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I have a question.
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You said you felt you were in
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a real relationship.
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A real connection.
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- Yes.
- With this married man.
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- Yes.
- It's been in the papers
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you had a relationship before.
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Similar to this, a married man.
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The way Kate and Andy Bleiler
made it seem on TV,
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it's-it's not entirely accurate.
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I-If that's the part
that you're, um...
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The only part I know is that
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he was a married man
and had a family.
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Yes.
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Like I know about the president.
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We're asked to trust
your version of events,
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but it seems you arrived
in D.C. and sought out
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a-an affair based on deception
and lies.
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Did you not believe that
this was wrong?
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My intention...
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when I came to Washington
was to start over.
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I did not want
to have another affair
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with a married man
because it was horrible.
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And I don't know
why I did it again.
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I just know that I did it again.
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And I know a lot of...
a lot of people think that
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that's wrong, and so do I.
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I know there's a lot of work
I need to do on myself.
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I just feel I had to ask
the question because
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a lot of us are confused.
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- I'm not.
- No need to be rude.
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It's okay.
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In a way, I really,
I really appreciate
259
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you asking me
where I'm coming from,
260
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'cause most people just assume
when it comes to me, so...
261
00:16:33,274 --> 00:16:36,677
Um, I really respect
your question
262
00:16:36,812 --> 00:16:38,679
and I-I appreciate
what you're saying.
263
00:16:39,681 --> 00:16:40,849
Whatever your name is.
264
00:16:41,015 --> 00:16:42,618
Ms. Lewinsky...
265
00:16:42,683 --> 00:16:45,354
Can you, can you guys
call me Monica?
266
00:16:45,453 --> 00:16:47,054
Are-are they allowed
to call me Monica?
267
00:16:47,188 --> 00:16:48,524
If you say so.
268
00:16:50,892 --> 00:16:52,193
Sure.
269
00:16:52,293 --> 00:16:55,197
I'm just 25. Please.
270
00:16:55,297 --> 00:16:59,467
But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky
whether you're 25 or 28 or...
271
00:16:59,534 --> 00:17:02,538
Not when I get married.
272
00:17:02,638 --> 00:17:06,708
Monica, do you
still love the president?
273
00:17:12,580 --> 00:17:15,717
The day they held me
at the Ritz,
274
00:17:15,817 --> 00:17:19,421
they wanted me to turn on him.
275
00:17:19,555 --> 00:17:21,557
I said no.
276
00:17:21,656 --> 00:17:24,559
I-I did not want to do anything
to let him get hurt.
277
00:17:24,692 --> 00:17:26,561
And then when this all came out,
278
00:17:26,694 --> 00:17:28,730
the-the people that
worked for him,
279
00:17:28,864 --> 00:17:30,665
they trashed me.
280
00:17:30,766 --> 00:17:32,268
They claim that they haven't,
281
00:17:32,401 --> 00:17:35,403
but they call me a stalker.
They called me a liar.
282
00:17:35,537 --> 00:17:39,508
They say I'm inappropriate.
I mean, you all know.
283
00:17:40,942 --> 00:17:43,244
And then he makes this speech.
284
00:17:44,512 --> 00:17:46,748
And he says...
285
00:17:46,882 --> 00:17:49,084
He makes it seem like...
286
00:17:49,184 --> 00:17:51,287
all that he cares about is
how unfair all of this
287
00:17:51,420 --> 00:17:53,454
has been to him.
288
00:17:55,089 --> 00:17:58,359
So to... sorry...
To answer your question, um...
289
00:18:01,297 --> 00:18:03,265
it turns out he's not
who I thought he was.
290
00:18:03,398 --> 00:18:05,800
Monica, about that day
you just mentioned
291
00:18:05,933 --> 00:18:07,769
when you were approached
by Mr. Emmick
292
00:18:07,903 --> 00:18:10,705
and the OIC, can you tell us
a little bit about that?
293
00:18:10,806 --> 00:18:12,273
Um...
294
00:18:12,407 --> 00:18:15,211
If I could ask,
what areas are you
295
00:18:15,310 --> 00:18:16,711
wanting to get into?
296
00:18:16,811 --> 00:18:19,948
Because we're already
tight for time and,
297
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,450
well, you know, there were...
298
00:18:21,583 --> 00:18:23,484
many hours of activity.
299
00:18:23,618 --> 00:18:25,453
Just want to know
about that day.
300
00:18:26,654 --> 00:18:29,490
Okay, well, how about we
table that for now...
301
00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:32,794
- No, I want to hear about that.
- We should be able
to hear about that day.
302
00:18:32,894 --> 00:18:34,162
Let her talk. Why not?
303
00:18:34,296 --> 00:18:36,632
Let her talk.
304
00:18:36,765 --> 00:18:39,134
All right, go ahead.
305
00:18:40,469 --> 00:18:42,337
So, you were approached
in the food court
306
00:18:42,471 --> 00:18:44,640
at Pentagon City
by two FBI agents.
307
00:18:44,806 --> 00:18:46,974
Linda Tripp had lied
to get you there. Is that right?
308
00:18:47,075 --> 00:18:48,477
Yes.
309
00:18:48,644 --> 00:18:51,346
And then they proceeded
to take you up to a hotel room.
310
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,315
Why didn't you
ask for your lawyer?
311
00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:56,017
I did.
312
00:18:57,653 --> 00:19:00,154
But they told me
I was in trouble and that
313
00:19:00,321 --> 00:19:02,990
I wouldn't be able to help
myself with my attorney present,
314
00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:04,992
so I just did what they said.
315
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,163
It was the FBI
and I was really scared.
316
00:19:08,263 --> 00:19:10,097
What happened
when you got up there?
317
00:19:17,172 --> 00:19:20,442
S-Sorry.
318
00:19:21,509 --> 00:19:24,680
Would it be okay...
Can you step out?
319
00:19:27,214 --> 00:19:30,184
Karin can take over
from here, right?
320
00:19:30,286 --> 00:19:32,387
Karin can take over.
321
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,855
Karin can stay.
322
00:19:49,971 --> 00:19:51,707
Thank you.
323
00:20:00,048 --> 00:20:03,484
They said if I called my lawyer,
I wouldn't be offered immunity.
324
00:20:03,551 --> 00:20:05,886
Did you feel threatened by that?
325
00:20:06,821 --> 00:20:09,223
Did they offer you a chance
to call another attorney?
326
00:20:09,325 --> 00:20:10,925
They suggested one.
327
00:20:11,058 --> 00:20:12,894
Did you take them up on that?
328
00:20:13,028 --> 00:20:15,063
- No.
- Why not?
329
00:20:15,163 --> 00:20:17,932
Because I didn't trust them.
330
00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:20,501
It sounds as though they
were actively discouraging you
331
00:20:20,602 --> 00:20:22,438
from talking to an attorney.
332
00:20:22,570 --> 00:20:24,405
Well, from talking
to Frank Carter.
333
00:20:24,506 --> 00:20:27,343
Yes, Frank Carter,
my only attorney.
334
00:20:29,009 --> 00:20:30,746
Are we due for
a ten-minute break?
335
00:20:31,747 --> 00:20:33,013
No, ma'am.
336
00:20:45,125 --> 00:20:48,028
It lasted about 12 hours
in total.
337
00:20:48,096 --> 00:20:50,865
My God. Wow.
338
00:20:50,965 --> 00:20:53,868
And they told me over
and over that I was free
339
00:20:53,969 --> 00:20:55,636
to leave, but I didn't.
340
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,476
I didn't understand
because they also said
341
00:21:00,608 --> 00:21:03,111
they were prepared
to indict me and I could
342
00:21:03,211 --> 00:21:06,146
spend up to 28 years in prison
and that they would
343
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,285
prosecute my mother if I didn't
help them, you know? So...
344
00:21:10,385 --> 00:21:13,489
I was, confused and...
345
00:21:13,622 --> 00:21:15,123
Were you angry?
346
00:21:18,292 --> 00:21:21,128
Yes, mostly at myself.
347
00:21:21,229 --> 00:21:23,298
For ending up in this situation.
348
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,836
And for putting the president
at risk.
349
00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:30,238
And...
350
00:21:32,407 --> 00:21:36,310
And-and for,
doing this to my family.
351
00:21:36,444 --> 00:21:39,914
Monica, they set you in a trap.
352
00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:41,916
It's what they do.
353
00:21:41,982 --> 00:21:43,984
Monica, is there anything else
you'd like to add
354
00:21:44,085 --> 00:21:45,319
to your testimony?
355
00:21:45,421 --> 00:21:47,522
We want to give you
the fullest opportunity.
356
00:21:48,523 --> 00:21:50,592
Um...
357
00:21:54,996 --> 00:21:59,667
I guess I want to say
that no one asked me to lie.
358
00:21:59,835 --> 00:22:02,538
And I was never
promised a job for my silence.
359
00:22:04,005 --> 00:22:05,507
Mostly I'm sorry.
360
00:22:07,008 --> 00:22:09,344
I'm really sorry for
everything that happened.
361
00:22:13,848 --> 00:22:16,351
And I hate Linda Tripp.
362
00:22:16,451 --> 00:22:18,053
I know that's right.
363
00:22:18,185 --> 00:22:20,355
Forget her.
364
00:22:20,521 --> 00:22:24,192
- What goes around comes around.
- It does.
365
00:22:33,902 --> 00:22:35,537
I am going to go in
and remove some
366
00:22:35,636 --> 00:22:38,205
extra cartilage
and bone right here.
367
00:22:38,306 --> 00:22:40,375
Then I'm going to go ahead
and pull the skin
368
00:22:40,476 --> 00:22:42,711
off of the issue so I can
chisel that bump down.
369
00:22:42,877 --> 00:22:46,047
Then we fracture it
so that we can close the roof,
370
00:22:46,146 --> 00:22:48,048
much the same way
you would on a house.
371
00:22:48,215 --> 00:22:49,217
Does that make sense?
372
00:22:49,384 --> 00:22:51,051
Um...
373
00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:52,488
Yeah.
374
00:22:52,554 --> 00:22:55,222
Dr. Loeb does wonderful work.
375
00:22:55,390 --> 00:22:57,057
Thanks.
Okay, I'm going to go ahead
376
00:22:57,192 --> 00:22:59,394
and step out
and do my final prep.
377
00:22:59,528 --> 00:23:01,328
I'll see you in there.
378
00:23:01,395 --> 00:23:03,163
Okay.
379
00:23:06,835 --> 00:23:09,938
- Where's Steve?
- He didn't want to come.
380
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:14,009
Is he still in a funk
about losing his job?
381
00:23:14,075 --> 00:23:15,911
Gosh, yes, he's...
382
00:23:16,044 --> 00:23:19,914
blaming my case and says
the airline fired him because of
383
00:23:20,015 --> 00:23:22,083
pressure from Clinton,
but, Susie,
384
00:23:22,217 --> 00:23:25,185
he wouldn't work the hours
that they wanted him to.
385
00:23:25,252 --> 00:23:26,954
I think that's all that it is.
386
00:23:27,087 --> 00:23:28,523
Well, did you tell him that?
387
00:23:30,025 --> 00:23:32,093
He won't listen to me.
388
00:23:34,863 --> 00:23:37,132
Hey. You nervous?
389
00:23:37,265 --> 00:23:40,134
I'm just glad that
people'll stop making fun
390
00:23:40,268 --> 00:23:41,970
of my big ol' awful nose.
391
00:24:31,819 --> 00:24:33,822
♪
392
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:57,345
♪
393
00:25:27,808 --> 00:25:31,980
I'm told there is a Russian
children's verse that says,
394
00:25:32,047 --> 00:25:35,549
"What do we plant
when we plant a new wood?
395
00:25:35,651 --> 00:25:39,554
Boats in which waves
can safely be withstood."
396
00:25:39,654 --> 00:25:43,057
In both our nations,
music education is that
397
00:25:43,157 --> 00:25:45,393
sturdy boat that lifts us up,
398
00:25:45,526 --> 00:25:49,230
that carries our unique cultural
treasures into the future.
399
00:25:49,364 --> 00:25:52,834
And now, it is my honor to
introduce to you Bill Clinton,
400
00:25:52,933 --> 00:25:56,270
president of the United States.
401
00:26:09,116 --> 00:26:11,787
Mr. President, Mr. Bowles
said you wanted this list...
402
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,122
I know what it is. Thanks.
403
00:26:22,262 --> 00:26:24,598
Betty, would you ask
the first lady to come see me?
404
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,267
Right away, sir.
405
00:26:50,157 --> 00:26:51,558
You wanted to see me?
406
00:26:51,659 --> 00:26:54,061
I wanted to say something.
407
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:08,143
25 years, you're the one
opinion I give a shit about.
408
00:27:09,576 --> 00:27:13,314
Most men of our age, they...
they find their wives so dull
409
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,416
they cringe
when she talks at dinner.
410
00:27:16,483 --> 00:27:18,753
I pity those men.
411
00:27:18,819 --> 00:27:21,155
They don't have what I do.
412
00:27:25,660 --> 00:27:29,163
I gave in to
a disgusting impulse.
413
00:27:29,297 --> 00:27:31,932
Because I didn't know
how to walk down the hall
414
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,434
and say to my best friend
415
00:27:34,501 --> 00:27:36,771
that this job is lonely
416
00:27:36,837 --> 00:27:39,007
and I'm worn to the bone...
417
00:27:40,208 --> 00:27:42,609
and I'm dead inside
half the time.
418
00:27:44,511 --> 00:27:46,181
There's been hell raining
down on us
419
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,682
from the day we walked
into this place.
420
00:27:48,784 --> 00:27:51,019
You know, every move
we make... the right,
421
00:27:51,118 --> 00:27:53,354
the press, they seize,
attack and drag us
422
00:27:53,453 --> 00:27:56,023
through the streets
over nothing.
423
00:27:56,124 --> 00:27:59,693
And I know it's stupid, but when
Newt shuts down the government,
424
00:27:59,795 --> 00:28:02,196
and Starr has slithered
into our lives
425
00:28:02,297 --> 00:28:05,032
to look for malfeasance
in every line of every receipt
426
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,201
of every piddly thing
we've ever bought,
427
00:28:07,301 --> 00:28:09,871
I thought I had to be
strong for us.
428
00:28:10,038 --> 00:28:12,373
And instead, I fucked it all up.
429
00:28:14,875 --> 00:28:16,877
♪
430
00:28:21,883 --> 00:28:24,219
When it first came out,
I was so ashamed I wanted to
431
00:28:24,384 --> 00:28:26,320
crawl in a hole and disappear.
432
00:28:29,223 --> 00:28:31,893
I couldn't bear what I'd done
to you and Chelsea.
433
00:28:33,661 --> 00:28:36,730
I couldn't face telling you,
I just couldn't.
434
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:41,501
So I made it worse and I lied.
435
00:28:50,177 --> 00:28:54,348
Everything good in my life
comes out of us together.
436
00:28:58,286 --> 00:29:00,855
I don't know who I am
without you.
437
00:29:02,123 --> 00:29:05,093
I know you said you
didn't care why it happened.
438
00:29:05,226 --> 00:29:07,428
But I wanted you to know.
439
00:29:13,367 --> 00:29:14,634
Is that all?
440
00:29:14,769 --> 00:29:16,304
No.
441
00:29:16,436 --> 00:29:17,939
I love you.
442
00:29:18,973 --> 00:29:20,641
That's all.
443
00:29:38,326 --> 00:29:40,494
- Mom?
- Busy.
444
00:29:40,627 --> 00:29:41,896
There's all this stuff in here.
445
00:29:41,997 --> 00:29:43,273
I didn't know that
you were arrested.
446
00:29:43,298 --> 00:29:44,798
It was a teen prank.
447
00:29:44,932 --> 00:29:46,968
Some boys put things in
my purse as a joke.
448
00:29:47,102 --> 00:29:48,669
Okay, but this part
about your dad...
449
00:29:48,802 --> 00:29:50,780
I mean, you don't talk about him
my entire life and I have
450
00:29:50,805 --> 00:29:53,473
no idea why until someone
writes an article about it.
451
00:30:05,819 --> 00:30:07,654
My God.
452
00:30:13,528 --> 00:30:15,496
Jesus Christ.
453
00:30:18,499 --> 00:30:20,667
- Unbelievable.
- What?
454
00:30:20,835 --> 00:30:22,502
None of this
is what I asked for.
455
00:30:22,603 --> 00:30:25,339
They know what I need
to do my job and they...
456
00:30:25,472 --> 00:30:28,509
they send me a completely
useless pile of paper.
457
00:30:29,844 --> 00:30:31,778
And look at the shape it's in.
458
00:30:39,054 --> 00:30:40,188
This is a message.
459
00:30:40,355 --> 00:30:43,357
Could just be one
of the lazier secretaries.
460
00:30:45,692 --> 00:30:47,028
Bring my purse.
461
00:30:54,701 --> 00:30:57,538
- My God.
- Linda,
462
00:30:57,637 --> 00:30:59,240
I didn't know
you were coming in.
463
00:30:59,374 --> 00:31:01,142
I need to see Ken.
464
00:31:09,717 --> 00:31:12,220
- Excuse me.
- I work here.
465
00:31:15,655 --> 00:31:18,558
No, I have to go.
Okay, it's just... Leave us.
466
00:31:18,692 --> 00:31:21,229
Linda, you know you
cannot just...
467
00:31:21,328 --> 00:31:22,969
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
468
00:31:23,030 --> 00:31:24,432
- What?
- It's a simple question.
469
00:31:24,565 --> 00:31:27,835
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
470
00:31:27,934 --> 00:31:30,413
- I can't say that I have any...
- Because I asked
for the basic materials
471
00:31:30,438 --> 00:31:32,940
I need to do my job
and what I got
472
00:31:33,074 --> 00:31:35,675
was random printed
email traffic.
473
00:31:35,776 --> 00:31:39,680
Some JCOC participant list
thrown violently into a box.
474
00:31:39,779 --> 00:31:42,416
- Linda.
- This is chilling.
475
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:46,121
This is veiled hostility
from my colleagues,
476
00:31:46,253 --> 00:31:47,564
simply because
I'm a cooperating witness
477
00:31:47,587 --> 00:31:49,023
in a federal investigation.
478
00:31:49,124 --> 00:31:50,857
I'm sure it was
just an honest mistake.
479
00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:53,528
- We are past that, Ken.
- Listen.
480
00:31:53,594 --> 00:31:55,596
Just write down exactly
what you need
481
00:31:55,695 --> 00:31:57,964
- and then we...
- What I need
482
00:31:58,098 --> 00:32:01,301
is to come here like normal
and do my work.
483
00:32:01,435 --> 00:32:03,637
And I do not doubt that
you'll be able to do that soon,
484
00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:04,780
and that things
will settle down,
485
00:32:04,805 --> 00:32:06,941
but DOD just opened this
investigation
486
00:32:07,041 --> 00:32:08,276
- and until we...
- What?
487
00:32:09,477 --> 00:32:10,644
What investigation?
488
00:32:14,648 --> 00:32:16,284
They'll be contacting you.
489
00:32:16,416 --> 00:32:17,785
When you were hired,
490
00:32:17,917 --> 00:32:22,123
you affirmed on your DD 398 that
you had never been arrested.
491
00:32:22,257 --> 00:32:23,624
Now, The New Yorker
has come out...
492
00:32:23,758 --> 00:32:25,125
It was a teen prank!
493
00:32:25,259 --> 00:32:27,327
- Linda...
- On me!
494
00:32:29,329 --> 00:32:30,798
The charges were dropped.
495
00:32:30,931 --> 00:32:34,335
Linda, you cannot lie
to the Department of Defense
496
00:32:34,469 --> 00:32:36,171
on a security clearance form.
497
00:32:36,304 --> 00:32:38,573
That is a serious crime.
498
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,142
I see.
499
00:32:43,177 --> 00:32:44,479
I see now.
500
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,646
You see what?
501
00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:49,483
They're really coming after me.
502
00:32:49,584 --> 00:32:51,652
Okay, well...
503
00:33:07,034 --> 00:33:09,336
Good afternoon, ma'am.
I'm Special Agent Irons
504
00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:11,172
with the Federal Bureau
of Investigation.
505
00:33:11,338 --> 00:33:13,007
This is Special Agent Fallon.
506
00:33:13,107 --> 00:33:15,343
Do you have
a moment to speak with us?
507
00:33:20,013 --> 00:33:21,348
Thank you, ma'am.
508
00:33:21,449 --> 00:33:22,849
We're detailed with the Office
509
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:24,852
of Independent Counsel
Kenneth Starr.
510
00:33:24,951 --> 00:33:26,854
Perhaps you've seen
Judge Starr on the news.
511
00:33:26,953 --> 00:33:29,557
Well, he's finishing up
his investigation,
512
00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:31,526
preparing to
make a report to Congress.
513
00:33:31,625 --> 00:33:33,528
We're just here following up
on some threads.
514
00:33:33,693 --> 00:33:36,230
Ma'am, as you may know,
the president and others
515
00:33:36,364 --> 00:33:38,732
are in legal peril because
of false affidavits
516
00:33:38,865 --> 00:33:40,535
filed in the Paula Jones
lawsuit.
517
00:33:40,701 --> 00:33:43,012
We're just dotting our i's,
Ms. Broaddrick. You understand.
518
00:33:43,037 --> 00:33:46,374
Now, here is
your Jones affidavit.
519
00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:48,542
You swore this
a few months back.
520
00:33:48,643 --> 00:33:50,545
Here, you state that
President Bill Clinton
521
00:33:50,711 --> 00:33:53,713
never made any unwanted
sexual advances toward you.
522
00:33:53,814 --> 00:33:57,317
Ma'am, were you being truthful
when you signed your name
523
00:33:57,384 --> 00:33:59,052
to this statement?
524
00:34:12,932 --> 00:34:14,268
I don't...
525
00:34:14,402 --> 00:34:15,902
I don't get it.
526
00:34:17,237 --> 00:34:19,173
Okay. Thank you. Bye.
527
00:34:20,175 --> 00:34:22,277
How was your audition?
528
00:34:22,409 --> 00:34:24,179
It sucked.
529
00:34:24,278 --> 00:34:28,416
- Who was that?
- The lawyers. They said...
530
00:34:29,849 --> 00:34:31,619
the judge did
a summary judgment.
531
00:34:31,751 --> 00:34:34,255
What is that?
532
00:34:34,355 --> 00:34:36,356
It's... it's bad.
533
00:34:36,423 --> 00:34:40,260
It means that
she threw out the case.
534
00:34:41,362 --> 00:34:42,929
The Supreme Court said
you had a case.
535
00:34:43,063 --> 00:34:46,132
But now the judge
says I don't, so I...
536
00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:47,867
I guess it's over.
537
00:34:47,967 --> 00:34:51,371
What? What-what do we get?
How much money we get?
538
00:34:51,472 --> 00:34:53,807
Well, that's what
I'm saying. Um...
539
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:56,311
It's nothing.
We get nothing.
540
00:34:56,443 --> 00:34:57,945
- The fuck?!
- I know.
541
00:34:58,077 --> 00:35:00,146
- I know, I need to call Susie.
- Yeah, great idea.
542
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,317
Smart. She always
makes things better.
543
00:35:02,449 --> 00:35:04,652
- Steve, don't.
- No, no, we need to go back
544
00:35:04,784 --> 00:35:05,929
and we need to
take Clinton's deal.
545
00:35:05,952 --> 00:35:07,121
I wanted that money.
546
00:35:07,255 --> 00:35:10,958
What?
No, no, but you and Susie
547
00:35:11,057 --> 00:35:13,126
told me that
I shouldn't take it, so...
548
00:35:13,260 --> 00:35:16,496
I don't wanna hear
your fucking voice.
549
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:18,632
Wait, but that is not fair
because I... gosh,
550
00:35:18,766 --> 00:35:21,635
I only ever started doing this
'cause you wanted me to.
551
00:35:21,735 --> 00:35:24,472
I-I did... I did all this
for you.
552
00:35:24,605 --> 00:35:27,173
You sound pretty stupid
right now with your face
553
00:35:27,307 --> 00:35:29,476
all broken from a nose job.
554
00:35:29,577 --> 00:35:32,146
Because I got a bad nose,
555
00:35:32,246 --> 00:35:34,349
which I didn't even know I had
556
00:35:34,481 --> 00:35:36,983
until you made me do this
and be on TV
557
00:35:37,150 --> 00:35:40,487
and people laughed at me, but...
558
00:35:40,588 --> 00:35:43,157
but I did it, like I always
do what you say.
559
00:35:43,291 --> 00:35:45,025
You think I liked
moving to California,
560
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:46,559
where I've never seen
so many people
561
00:35:46,594 --> 00:35:48,161
who smile while they hate you
562
00:35:48,295 --> 00:35:49,996
and it makes my skin
fucking crawl
563
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:52,333
and it's sunny all day
and it's...
564
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,168
You think it'll be better
if we move home,
565
00:35:54,268 --> 00:35:56,836
where everyone knows exactly
who you are and what you did?
566
00:35:57,003 --> 00:35:58,672
What do you mean, "what I did"?
567
00:36:02,342 --> 00:36:03,844
What do you mean?
568
00:36:06,179 --> 00:36:09,684
Say it. Say it, Steve.
569
00:36:12,887 --> 00:36:14,688
You think I did it.
570
00:36:14,789 --> 00:36:17,692
You think I went up there
and I gave him a blow job.
571
00:36:21,396 --> 00:36:23,864
Yeah, okay, okay.
572
00:36:25,231 --> 00:36:28,536
I can take this from Jay Leno
573
00:36:28,635 --> 00:36:33,072
and people laughing at me
at Vons, but...
574
00:36:33,206 --> 00:36:35,041
from you?
575
00:36:35,141 --> 00:36:37,043
You're supposed to believe me!
576
00:36:37,143 --> 00:36:41,215
We are fighting to show people
that he did me wrong!
577
00:36:41,382 --> 00:36:43,884
And...
578
00:36:43,983 --> 00:36:45,885
And in reality,
all-all this is...
579
00:36:45,985 --> 00:36:48,389
All the press conferences
and all the magazines
580
00:36:48,523 --> 00:36:50,391
and-and the TV shows
581
00:36:50,525 --> 00:36:53,494
and the lawyers and more lawyers
and more lawyers...
582
00:36:53,594 --> 00:36:57,331
It's just me trying to get you
to believe me!
583
00:36:57,398 --> 00:37:02,570
Which we both know you
never did, so you know what?
584
00:37:02,702 --> 00:37:05,672
If you want to say I'm stupid,
well, fuck you!
585
00:37:05,739 --> 00:37:08,342
But most of all,
if I'm stupid on one thing,
586
00:37:08,409 --> 00:37:09,929
it was believing that
you were any more
587
00:37:10,043 --> 00:37:13,347
than a chickenshit asshole
who cared about me at all!
588
00:37:25,525 --> 00:37:28,094
You think
I'm gonna ask you to stay?!
589
00:37:35,603 --> 00:37:37,938
Okay, it's pretty simple.
590
00:37:38,038 --> 00:37:40,306
You listen to all of
these tapes. After each one,
591
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,643
you sign the tape,
as well as sign
592
00:37:42,777 --> 00:37:43,978
and date those documents,
593
00:37:44,110 --> 00:37:47,280
confirming that the voices
are you and Linda Tripp.
594
00:37:47,382 --> 00:37:48,782
I have to listen
to all of these?
595
00:37:48,916 --> 00:37:50,617
They're all evidence.
596
00:37:50,717 --> 00:37:52,786
Karin here will sit in with you.
597
00:37:52,887 --> 00:37:54,989
I would, but I gotta get
to the courthouse.
598
00:37:55,121 --> 00:37:57,391
What's happening
at the courthouse?
599
00:38:01,628 --> 00:38:04,130
Do you, Linda R. Tripp,
swear to tell the truth,
600
00:38:04,264 --> 00:38:06,833
the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
601
00:38:06,967 --> 00:38:08,335
I do.
602
00:38:12,172 --> 00:38:13,974
You ready?
603
00:38:17,577 --> 00:38:19,980
- Hi.
- Hi.
604
00:38:21,315 --> 00:38:22,483
How are you?
605
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:27,487
Now, with
Mr. Wisenberg's assistance,
606
00:38:27,588 --> 00:38:29,322
I'd like to read to you
607
00:38:29,489 --> 00:38:32,827
what the grand jury
has come to know as Tape 11.
608
00:38:34,594 --> 00:38:36,931
You have a, transcript there.
609
00:38:36,996 --> 00:38:38,699
Okay.
610
00:38:40,668 --> 00:38:42,836
"Linda, I got the creep a tie.
611
00:38:43,003 --> 00:38:45,005
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls."
612
00:38:45,172 --> 00:38:47,007
"Good, who makes it?"
613
00:38:47,173 --> 00:38:49,208
"Calvin Klein.
It's gorgeous, Linda."
614
00:38:49,342 --> 00:38:51,512
"Yeah, Marshalls generally,
615
00:38:51,646 --> 00:38:53,547
every now and then,
you can hit."
616
00:38:53,681 --> 00:38:56,684
"It's really different from all
the other ones I've given him.
617
00:38:56,817 --> 00:38:58,686
"I'm putting a note with it.
618
00:38:58,786 --> 00:39:00,119
I wrote such a funny card
to him."
619
00:39:00,186 --> 00:39:01,521
Linda Tripp laughs.
620
00:39:01,621 --> 00:39:02,856
I said, "This tie will
621
00:39:03,023 --> 00:39:05,224
"look good with either
a taupe or navy suit
622
00:39:05,358 --> 00:39:06,726
"and a white
or a light blue shirt.
623
00:39:06,860 --> 00:39:09,463
That is, if you like it."
624
00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:11,065
"And then do you know
what I wrote?
625
00:39:11,197 --> 00:39:15,034
"I said, 'And just think,
now you can pay homage to me
626
00:39:15,202 --> 00:39:18,304
"if you want by having
a work week in which you
627
00:39:18,371 --> 00:39:20,139
wear one of my ties every day.'"
628
00:39:20,206 --> 00:39:21,476
Linda Tripp laughs.
629
00:39:21,541 --> 00:39:23,409
Ms. Lewinsky laughs.
630
00:39:23,543 --> 00:39:25,480
'Cause this
is the fifth one, right?
631
00:39:25,545 --> 00:39:27,356
You have to give him one
for the weekend days, too.
632
00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:30,717
"That's what I want.
That's my fantasy.
633
00:39:30,818 --> 00:39:34,387
To have the creep
wear one of my ties every day."
634
00:39:35,389 --> 00:39:39,259
Um, Ms. Tripp,
who was the creep?
635
00:39:43,063 --> 00:39:45,500
The president
of the United States.
636
00:39:45,565 --> 00:39:49,068
Was this typical
of the sort of subject
637
00:39:49,168 --> 00:39:50,905
you and Monica Lewinsky
would discuss?
638
00:39:51,038 --> 00:39:53,940
Yes, we almost
never talked about anything
639
00:39:54,074 --> 00:39:56,342
aside from the president.
640
00:39:56,409 --> 00:39:58,913
She shared a lot of intimate
details with you, did she not?
641
00:40:01,081 --> 00:40:02,349
She did.
642
00:40:02,416 --> 00:40:03,617
I was upset before,
643
00:40:03,751 --> 00:40:05,585
but not like I am now.
644
00:40:05,686 --> 00:40:07,086
Man.
645
00:40:07,186 --> 00:40:09,023
It's too much for one person.
646
00:40:09,123 --> 00:40:11,525
It is too much for one person.
647
00:40:11,626 --> 00:40:12,626
Yes, it is.
648
00:40:12,726 --> 00:40:15,295
Moving into November 1997.
649
00:40:15,429 --> 00:40:19,465
Is it fair to say that
Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly
650
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:21,802
distraught
on her calls with you?
651
00:40:21,936 --> 00:40:25,639
Yes, she was obsessed with
the president's lack of contact.
652
00:40:25,773 --> 00:40:29,476
And what typically would happen
when she tried to make contact?
653
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:32,547
She would call Betty Currie
and then call me
654
00:40:32,646 --> 00:40:33,981
to tell me she called Betty.
655
00:40:34,114 --> 00:40:35,525
And then, if Betty hadn't
gotten back to her
656
00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:37,552
within an hour,
she would get angry
657
00:40:37,652 --> 00:40:40,054
and call Betty again,
then call me again.
658
00:40:40,153 --> 00:40:43,489
Crescendoing to some sort
of nuclear outburst.
659
00:40:43,623 --> 00:40:45,324
Okay, now I'd like to move...
660
00:40:45,458 --> 00:40:48,061
Sorry, can I ask a question?
661
00:40:51,965 --> 00:40:54,300
Did you want Monica
to stop calling you?
662
00:40:54,434 --> 00:40:56,503
Yes.
663
00:40:56,637 --> 00:41:00,507
Her behavior became volatile.
Very erratic.
664
00:41:00,641 --> 00:41:04,478
So why did you not just say,
"Please stop calling me"?
665
00:41:04,579 --> 00:41:07,313
That's what my kid said.
666
00:41:07,447 --> 00:41:08,447
So why didn't you?
667
00:41:08,481 --> 00:41:11,485
Well, at a, at a certain point,
668
00:41:11,585 --> 00:41:12,920
you can't unring a bell.
669
00:41:12,987 --> 00:41:15,489
You talk like this was
a grave situation
670
00:41:15,590 --> 00:41:18,257
and harmful for Monica, right?
671
00:41:18,324 --> 00:41:20,827
- Yes, very.
- But earlier
672
00:41:20,994 --> 00:41:22,663
we heard you encouraging her
673
00:41:22,762 --> 00:41:24,931
to buy him a tie for each day
of the week.
674
00:41:24,998 --> 00:41:27,601
Well, that...
675
00:41:27,668 --> 00:41:29,003
I was joking.
676
00:41:29,168 --> 00:41:32,271
And when Monica said,
"I got the creep a tie.
677
00:41:32,338 --> 00:41:34,675
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls,"
678
00:41:34,842 --> 00:41:36,777
you replied, "Good."
679
00:41:36,844 --> 00:41:38,612
Well, I was being...
680
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:41,380
That was more of
a pro-Marshalls.
681
00:41:41,514 --> 00:41:45,452
So, was this a serious situation
or was this a joking matter?
682
00:41:45,518 --> 00:41:47,353
That's one moment
out of context.
683
00:41:47,521 --> 00:41:49,856
Or were you just trying
to keep her talking?
684
00:41:49,956 --> 00:41:52,391
Because by then you were taping.
685
00:41:53,728 --> 00:41:55,195
I prefer to call it documenting.
686
00:41:55,295 --> 00:41:56,362
Why did you tape her?
687
00:41:56,530 --> 00:41:58,231
We'll get to that
in just a little bit.
688
00:41:58,364 --> 00:42:00,701
I documented our phone calls
because I knew
689
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,070
- I needed evidence.
- Evidence for what?
690
00:42:04,538 --> 00:42:06,974
Well, for...
So when I came forward...
691
00:42:07,041 --> 00:42:09,018
- But it was a private matter.
- I don't think you comprehend...
692
00:42:09,043 --> 00:42:10,710
It was between Monica
and the president.
693
00:42:10,878 --> 00:42:11,878
No one needed to know.
694
00:42:11,978 --> 00:42:14,547
Actually, this was
a very young staffer
695
00:42:14,648 --> 00:42:17,050
in a workplace with
the most senior official
696
00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:18,885
in that workplace making choices
697
00:42:18,985 --> 00:42:21,722
that were causing her
severe distress.
698
00:42:21,889 --> 00:42:24,057
She told me
on more than one occasion
699
00:42:24,190 --> 00:42:25,492
she wanted to kill herself.
700
00:42:25,592 --> 00:42:29,396
And still, the president
of the United States
701
00:42:29,496 --> 00:42:31,331
used her to meet his needs.
702
00:42:31,398 --> 00:42:35,501
He had total control.
His behavior was unconscionable.
703
00:42:38,505 --> 00:42:40,574
It was an abuse of power.
704
00:42:40,708 --> 00:42:42,742
- Mrs. Tripp...
- I had to end it.
705
00:42:42,876 --> 00:42:44,510
I had to end it.
706
00:42:49,949 --> 00:42:53,688
Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to...
707
00:42:53,788 --> 00:42:57,090
begin documenting Monica,
708
00:42:57,224 --> 00:43:00,293
you were under enormous stress,
correct?
709
00:43:00,427 --> 00:43:03,030
I was terrified.
710
00:43:03,130 --> 00:43:06,532
I knew if I came forward
with no evidence,
711
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:08,135
they would destroy me.
712
00:43:08,268 --> 00:43:11,105
When you say "they,"
who are you referring to?
713
00:43:11,237 --> 00:43:13,974
Bill Clinton.
714
00:43:14,108 --> 00:43:16,309
And, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
715
00:43:16,443 --> 00:43:18,277
Man.
716
00:43:20,547 --> 00:43:23,217
The president's lawyer
had already made
717
00:43:23,317 --> 00:43:25,652
a defamatory statement
about me in Newsweek.
718
00:43:25,786 --> 00:43:27,788
I was sure I was
going to be subpoenaed
719
00:43:27,922 --> 00:43:29,322
in the Paula Jones case.
720
00:43:29,456 --> 00:43:31,458
I felt, if I told
the truth under oath,
721
00:43:31,557 --> 00:43:33,626
I would lose my job.
722
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,295
Or worse.
723
00:43:35,394 --> 00:43:38,498
You thought if you told the
truth in the Paula Jones case...
724
00:43:38,632 --> 00:43:40,210
I was afraid I wouldn't even
get the chance.
725
00:43:40,233 --> 00:43:43,003
Are you... are you saying you
thought you would be killed?
726
00:43:43,137 --> 00:43:44,972
Yes.
727
00:43:45,105 --> 00:43:47,340
- Why?
- I have what I consider
728
00:43:47,474 --> 00:43:49,143
well-founded fears
729
00:43:49,242 --> 00:43:51,244
of what this administration
is capable of.
730
00:43:51,311 --> 00:43:53,079
Can you give an example?
731
00:43:53,146 --> 00:43:55,983
I have, reason to believe
732
00:43:56,115 --> 00:43:58,184
that the Vince Foster
tragedy was not
733
00:43:58,318 --> 00:44:01,320
depicted accurately by
members of the administration.
734
00:44:01,454 --> 00:44:04,657
Are you... are you saying
he didn't commit suicide?
735
00:44:04,824 --> 00:44:07,327
We will never know.
736
00:44:07,494 --> 00:44:09,496
Mrs. Tripp,
do you have information
737
00:44:09,628 --> 00:44:11,697
about the White House
and the death of Vince Foster?
738
00:44:11,831 --> 00:44:14,835
I'll just say this.
739
00:44:15,001 --> 00:44:17,838
The day after that tragedy,
740
00:44:17,972 --> 00:44:21,507
the behavior I saw in
the West Wing frightened me.
741
00:44:21,675 --> 00:44:24,543
There was a flurry
of activity, boxes
742
00:44:24,677 --> 00:44:26,512
and secrecy behind closed doors.
743
00:44:26,646 --> 00:44:29,182
I was concerned,
and I was alarmed.
744
00:44:29,315 --> 00:44:32,018
Because people were
meeting behind closed doors?
745
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:36,190
It was far more
ominous than that.
746
00:44:39,393 --> 00:44:42,295
I am telling you,
under oath today,
747
00:44:42,362 --> 00:44:44,697
that I felt threatened.
748
00:44:44,864 --> 00:44:49,036
And I was angry.
And I resented it.
749
00:44:49,202 --> 00:44:52,039
- And still do.
- I have a question.
750
00:44:52,206 --> 00:44:54,373
Did you ever think
about what would happen
751
00:44:54,541 --> 00:44:56,811
to Monica
when all this came out?
752
00:44:56,876 --> 00:44:59,378
♪
753
00:44:59,545 --> 00:45:02,382
All right,
call me back, you nut.
754
00:45:02,481 --> 00:45:05,719
- I will, I will.
- Bye.
755
00:45:14,661 --> 00:45:15,896
- Done.
- Your attorney
756
00:45:16,030 --> 00:45:17,306
has a car waiting for you
out back.
757
00:45:17,331 --> 00:45:18,398
If you want, I can...
758
00:45:18,532 --> 00:45:20,434
I know the way.
759
00:45:25,005 --> 00:45:28,574
I thought,
if this became public,
760
00:45:28,708 --> 00:45:31,411
Monica would not be
in any sort of danger.
761
00:45:31,545 --> 00:45:33,914
But you said you felt dangers,
both personal
762
00:45:34,014 --> 00:45:35,916
and professional,
could befall you.
763
00:45:36,016 --> 00:45:38,751
What crossed your mind
that would befall Monica?
764
00:45:40,286 --> 00:45:42,422
What-what would befall her?
765
00:45:42,521 --> 00:45:44,757
Did you have any fears for her?
766
00:45:44,891 --> 00:45:46,760
All these details in the publi.
767
00:45:46,893 --> 00:45:49,596
She was...
I-I think I said this.
768
00:45:49,728 --> 00:45:51,530
She was suicidal.
769
00:45:51,597 --> 00:45:53,099
You're not
answering her question.
770
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:58,472
What Monica was going through
was extremely unhealthy.
771
00:45:58,605 --> 00:46:00,639
But you didn't think
it would bring her harm?
772
00:46:02,141 --> 00:46:04,143
Well, not compared to...
773
00:46:06,813 --> 00:46:08,782
- No.
- Why not?
774
00:46:10,617 --> 00:46:11,717
Pardon?
775
00:46:11,818 --> 00:46:14,554
Why would you
not think about her?
776
00:46:14,653 --> 00:46:16,655
♪
777
00:46:17,958 --> 00:46:22,161
I was thinking that she was
in a tremendously bad situation.
778
00:46:24,130 --> 00:46:27,800
And do you feel now she's better
off because of what you did?
779
00:46:27,934 --> 00:46:30,336
Do you feel
her life is better now?
780
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:42,081
- How'd it go?
- Ready, Linda?
781
00:46:43,483 --> 00:46:44,985
You sure?
782
00:46:45,152 --> 00:46:47,086
You don't have
to do this right now.
783
00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:04,503
We understand
784
00:47:04,603 --> 00:47:07,106
there is some interest
in hearing from Ms. Tripp.
785
00:47:07,173 --> 00:47:09,708
She will not be taking
any questions today.
786
00:47:09,842 --> 00:47:14,014
She has, however, agreed
to make some brief remarks.
787
00:47:18,018 --> 00:47:21,221
Good afternoon.
I'm not a public speaker.
788
00:47:21,355 --> 00:47:23,222
I'm going to have to refer
to my notes.
789
00:47:23,356 --> 00:47:24,358
Please bear with me.
790
00:47:29,528 --> 00:47:32,699
I understand that there's
been a great deal of speculation
791
00:47:32,798 --> 00:47:36,202
about just who I am
and how I got here.
792
00:47:36,302 --> 00:47:38,704
Well, the answer is simple.
793
00:47:38,804 --> 00:47:42,041
I'm you.
I'm just like you.
794
00:47:43,210 --> 00:47:46,545
I'm an average American
who found herself in a situation
795
00:47:46,646 --> 00:47:48,882
not of her own making.
796
00:47:48,983 --> 00:47:51,885
Because I am just like you,
I ask you to imagine how you
797
00:47:51,985 --> 00:47:54,721
would feel if someone
you thought was a friend
798
00:47:54,820 --> 00:47:56,655
urged you to commit a felony.
799
00:47:58,057 --> 00:48:00,827
Imagine how you would feel
if your boss's attorney
800
00:48:00,927 --> 00:48:03,730
called you a liar in front
of the whole country.
801
00:48:04,931 --> 00:48:06,432
And imagine if that boss
802
00:48:06,565 --> 00:48:09,003
was the president
of the United States.
803
00:48:12,072 --> 00:48:15,842
Imagine how you would feel
if your employer demoted you
804
00:48:15,942 --> 00:48:19,612
and cast you aside,
for daring to tell the truth.
805
00:48:23,682 --> 00:48:26,853
Imagine how it would feel to see
the pain in your children's eyes
806
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,456
when they hear
a seemingly endless barrage
807
00:48:29,588 --> 00:48:31,791
of lies about their mother.
808
00:48:31,925 --> 00:48:35,795
A mother who is not
going out to defend herself.
809
00:48:41,635 --> 00:48:44,471
I've been vilified for
taking the path of truth.
810
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:47,641
I've been maligned
by people who have chosen
811
00:48:47,773 --> 00:48:49,708
not to tell the truth,
812
00:48:49,809 --> 00:48:53,112
and who know they
are not telling the truth.
813
00:48:53,246 --> 00:48:55,048
To cast me in the role
of the villain,
814
00:48:55,148 --> 00:48:57,817
they have enlisted
legions of paid prevaricators.
815
00:48:57,951 --> 00:48:59,929
Not surprisingly, many
from the entertainment industry
816
00:48:59,952 --> 00:49:02,822
have chosen to ridicule me
as well.
817
00:49:03,989 --> 00:49:06,659
Going so far as to even
make fun of my appearance
818
00:49:06,793 --> 00:49:10,329
in a manner so mean and so cruel
that I pray none of you
819
00:49:10,463 --> 00:49:11,898
is ever subjected to it.
820
00:49:13,967 --> 00:49:15,668
Despite all of that,
821
00:49:15,802 --> 00:49:18,838
I bear no malice towards
anyone in this case.
822
00:49:27,813 --> 00:49:29,648
I believe in our country.
823
00:49:30,983 --> 00:49:34,153
As I said, I am no different
than any of you.
824
00:49:34,288 --> 00:49:38,324
I believe you have the right
to tell the truth under oath
825
00:49:38,425 --> 00:49:40,994
without fear
of retribution or worse.
826
00:49:43,097 --> 00:49:46,500
I hope that when all
the facts are revealed,
827
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:48,168
you'll understand that
it is a right
828
00:49:48,335 --> 00:49:50,603
all of us
should be fighting for.
829
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:54,673
Thank you.
830
00:49:56,943 --> 00:49:58,677
Why did you
betray Monica Lewinsky?
831
00:49:59,846 --> 00:50:00,989
We're not taking any questions.
832
00:50:01,014 --> 00:50:03,117
Linda, do you regret
taping Monica?
833
00:50:03,182 --> 00:50:05,018
Isn't it true
you manipulated her?
834
00:50:05,184 --> 00:50:07,621
Did you do
all this for a book deal?
835
00:50:18,197 --> 00:50:19,565
The atmosphere
feels very different
836
00:50:19,699 --> 00:50:20,943
- among the party now.
- Look, I've read
837
00:50:20,967 --> 00:50:22,277
the deposition
and it's very clear...
838
00:50:22,302 --> 00:50:23,570
Members of President Clinton's
839
00:50:23,702 --> 00:50:24,947
own party are now wavering
in their support,
840
00:50:24,971 --> 00:50:25,971
including my guest,
841
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:27,574
Congressman Jim Moran.
842
00:50:27,706 --> 00:50:29,876
The fact is he lied
to the American people.
843
00:50:30,043 --> 00:50:32,378
That is undoubtedly going to
844
00:50:32,545 --> 00:50:34,981
necessitate
impeachment proceedings.
845
00:50:49,228 --> 00:50:53,233
Andrew Johnson... worst leader
this country ever had.
846
00:50:53,333 --> 00:50:56,068
Racist to his core,
drunk as hell
847
00:50:56,170 --> 00:50:58,572
the day he took over
for Lincoln.
848
00:51:00,005 --> 00:51:03,742
1868 Congress
finally impeached his ass.
849
00:51:05,077 --> 00:51:07,914
Only president
that's happened to, only one.
850
00:51:09,516 --> 00:51:10,916
Till now.
851
00:51:12,686 --> 00:51:14,920
I hate it when you're like this.
852
00:51:15,054 --> 00:51:18,192
We have not
lost anything, not yet.
853
00:51:23,262 --> 00:51:24,931
I'll call Jim Moran.
854
00:51:26,032 --> 00:51:27,701
What'll you say?
855
00:51:27,766 --> 00:51:32,038
I will say that if he thinks
he is fighting for me,
856
00:51:32,137 --> 00:51:35,108
then he needs
to fight on my side.
857
00:51:35,208 --> 00:51:37,476
And the way I see it,
858
00:51:37,610 --> 00:51:40,280
there are forces that have
been trying to take my husband
859
00:51:40,414 --> 00:51:43,148
down his whole life
and I don't want them to win.
860
00:51:43,282 --> 00:51:44,983
And I won't let them.
861
00:51:46,219 --> 00:51:48,487
And yes,
the right's got the votes,
862
00:51:48,621 --> 00:51:50,224
and I'm sure
they will do their worst.
863
00:51:50,324 --> 00:51:51,657
But to state the obvious,
864
00:51:51,791 --> 00:51:53,659
you are not
Andrew fucking Johnson.
865
00:51:53,793 --> 00:51:57,463
And the last billion times
the GOP has tried to destroy us,
866
00:51:57,597 --> 00:51:59,965
we have wiped the floor
with them.
867
00:52:00,099 --> 00:52:01,635
Have you seen the polls?
868
00:52:01,735 --> 00:52:03,637
Every step
they take towards this
869
00:52:03,769 --> 00:52:07,740
moronic idea,
your approval jumps a point.
870
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,509
Nobody's looking at the polls.
871
00:52:09,643 --> 00:52:11,844
My own party
isn't looking at the polls.
872
00:52:11,978 --> 00:52:14,648
They just need
permission to forgive you.
873
00:52:14,748 --> 00:52:17,483
Which is something
that you can't give them.
874
00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:22,322
But I can.
875
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:27,159
This is all the FBI interviews?
876
00:52:27,260 --> 00:52:29,027
We're waiting on a few more.
877
00:52:29,161 --> 00:52:30,530
We have a problem.
878
00:52:30,664 --> 00:52:32,164
We need to put Monica back
under oath.
879
00:52:32,331 --> 00:52:34,833
- Why?
- Our perjury charge
rests on the president
880
00:52:35,001 --> 00:52:37,246
claiming that technically he
didn't have sex with her because
881
00:52:37,271 --> 00:52:38,951
he never touched her
with intent to arouse.
882
00:52:39,005 --> 00:52:41,675
He's lying,
but here's hours and hours
883
00:52:41,775 --> 00:52:43,677
of Monica's testimony,
and she never once
884
00:52:43,809 --> 00:52:45,278
speaks about all the times
885
00:52:45,344 --> 00:52:47,179
that he touched her
with intent to arouse.
886
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,014
It was implied on our chart.
887
00:52:49,181 --> 00:52:52,351
That's weak shit. We need her
under oath, in detail,
888
00:52:52,485 --> 00:52:54,288
on all the sex,
proving him wrong.
889
00:52:54,353 --> 00:52:56,021
Okay, let's bring her back in.
890
00:52:56,121 --> 00:53:00,025
Gosh, who's going to
handle asking her about that?
891
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,530
We are on the record.
Monica, you're still under oath.
892
00:53:05,565 --> 00:53:08,534
First, I want to start by
asking you a general question.
893
00:53:08,702 --> 00:53:10,570
Did your relationship
with President Clinton
894
00:53:10,704 --> 00:53:12,306
start with sex
and then evolve into
895
00:53:12,371 --> 00:53:14,039
a friendship
or the other way around?
896
00:53:15,708 --> 00:53:18,043
It started with
a physical attraction
897
00:53:18,143 --> 00:53:20,713
which led to
a sexual relationship.
898
00:53:20,813 --> 00:53:22,882
And then the emotional and...
899
00:53:22,981 --> 00:53:25,485
friendship aspects of
that relationship developed
900
00:53:25,552 --> 00:53:28,722
after the beginning of
the sexual relationship.
901
00:53:29,889 --> 00:53:31,891
Why don't we start
with the first incident
902
00:53:32,057 --> 00:53:34,159
November 15, 1995,
903
00:53:34,226 --> 00:53:36,228
which you've already
testified some about.
904
00:53:36,329 --> 00:53:38,398
- Okay.
- Can you tell me
905
00:53:38,532 --> 00:53:40,166
how the physical intimacy
between you two
906
00:53:40,266 --> 00:53:41,501
began that night?
907
00:53:44,503 --> 00:53:45,905
Um...
908
00:53:47,172 --> 00:53:50,009
Well, we were...
909
00:53:50,076 --> 00:53:52,746
in an office alone.
910
00:53:52,846 --> 00:53:54,914
Kissing, you know?
911
00:53:56,416 --> 00:53:59,418
And then what happened
after the kissing started?
912
00:54:01,688 --> 00:54:07,927
Um, he started
untucking my shirt.
913
00:54:08,027 --> 00:54:09,195
And then what?
914
00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:15,101
I'm sorry.
For legal reasons,
915
00:54:15,233 --> 00:54:18,271
I need to get
specifically what happened.
916
00:54:18,405 --> 00:54:19,972
Each physical interaction.
917
00:54:21,541 --> 00:54:22,942
Okay.
918
00:54:23,943 --> 00:54:26,278
Um...
919
00:54:26,413 --> 00:54:32,117
So, he took off my sweater
and, you know...
920
00:54:32,251 --> 00:54:34,219
Did he touch your breasts?
921
00:54:35,655 --> 00:54:38,557
- Yes.
- With your bra on or off?
922
00:54:42,128 --> 00:54:44,463
I...
923
00:54:44,563 --> 00:54:48,835
I-I... I don't
remember if I unhooked my bra
924
00:54:48,967 --> 00:54:52,005
or if he, um...
925
00:54:55,141 --> 00:54:58,010
lifted my...
926
00:54:58,143 --> 00:55:00,679
bra up over...
This is embarrassing.
927
00:55:00,813 --> 00:55:02,148
I know.
928
00:55:02,248 --> 00:55:03,650
I'm sorry.
929
00:55:09,155 --> 00:55:10,590
But he...
930
00:55:11,824 --> 00:55:14,527
He lifted the bra over
your breasts.
931
00:55:14,661 --> 00:55:18,030
Um... sometimes...
932
00:55:21,668 --> 00:55:28,007
he would lift my-my breasts
out of my bra. God.
933
00:55:28,173 --> 00:55:30,510
Did he touch your breasts
with his hands?
934
00:55:30,643 --> 00:55:31,677
Yes.
935
00:55:31,811 --> 00:55:33,679
Did he touch your breasts
with his mouth?
936
00:55:35,014 --> 00:55:37,182
- Yes.
- Did he touch your genital area?
937
00:55:41,788 --> 00:55:45,190
I-I know this is...
938
00:55:45,291 --> 00:55:47,693
It's just, um, thinking about
other people reading this...
939
00:55:47,793 --> 00:55:50,697
I understand,
but I've been instructed
940
00:55:50,864 --> 00:55:52,197
to question you
on these details.
941
00:55:52,297 --> 00:55:53,675
- And I have to answer?
- Pursuant to the agreement
942
00:55:53,699 --> 00:55:55,635
you have with this office, yes.
943
00:55:55,702 --> 00:55:57,202
Do you understand?
944
00:55:58,538 --> 00:56:00,373
- Yes.
- Okay.
945
00:56:01,875 --> 00:56:04,077
Did he touch your genitals
on this date?
946
00:56:06,144 --> 00:56:07,213
Yes.
947
00:56:07,313 --> 00:56:09,882
Can you describe
exactly how that happened?
948
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,086
He, um...
949
00:56:23,396 --> 00:56:25,498
The president...
950
00:56:25,565 --> 00:56:29,101
got a call, so we moved
into a back office.
951
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:33,507
While he was on the phone...
952
00:56:36,576 --> 00:56:40,012
he put his hand,
down my pants and he...
953
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,114
stimulated that area.
954
00:56:42,248 --> 00:56:44,416
Directly on your skin
or through underwear?
955
00:56:47,019 --> 00:56:50,088
It was, um, touching...
956
00:56:50,188 --> 00:56:53,259
through my underwear
at first and then he
957
00:56:53,391 --> 00:56:55,695
placed his hand
under my underwear.
958
00:56:55,762 --> 00:56:57,931
And did he bring you to orgasm?
959
00:57:01,768 --> 00:57:03,936
- Yes.
- Okay.
960
00:57:05,639 --> 00:57:08,641
On this night, did you perform
oral sex on the president?
961
00:57:08,775 --> 00:57:10,443
Yes.
962
00:57:12,311 --> 00:57:13,646
Who initiated that?
963
00:57:13,780 --> 00:57:15,447
I did.
964
00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:19,985
Did the president say
anything to you during this?
965
00:57:21,621 --> 00:57:22,956
No.
966
00:57:25,791 --> 00:57:27,159
He was on the phone.
967
00:57:30,797 --> 00:57:32,666
Would you like a break?
968
00:57:41,574 --> 00:57:44,409
Moving to March 31, 1996,
969
00:57:44,476 --> 00:57:46,478
did the president
stimulate your genitals?
970
00:57:46,579 --> 00:57:47,981
Yes.
971
00:57:50,148 --> 00:57:52,418
Was that through clothing?
972
00:57:54,253 --> 00:57:55,989
Not through clothing.
973
00:57:56,121 --> 00:57:59,425
And he stimulated
your genitals with his hands?
974
00:57:59,492 --> 00:58:02,829
Yes. And...
975
00:58:05,431 --> 00:58:06,833
And?
976
00:58:09,001 --> 00:58:11,369
He used, um...
977
00:58:13,338 --> 00:58:15,173
He had a cigar.
978
00:58:19,012 --> 00:58:22,347
I'm sorry, could you speak just
a little louder for the tape?
979
00:58:22,447 --> 00:58:23,849
Okay, sorry.
980
00:58:23,949 --> 00:58:25,018
He had a cigar.
981
00:58:25,117 --> 00:58:27,353
Did he insert the cigar
into your vagina?
982
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:32,710
I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you
to answer verbally.
983
00:58:32,791 --> 00:58:33,860
Yes.
984
00:58:36,028 --> 00:58:38,197
Whose idea, um...?
985
00:58:39,798 --> 00:58:41,199
How did that...?
986
00:58:42,534 --> 00:58:46,204
Um, we were talking, um,
987
00:58:46,304 --> 00:58:49,708
in the Oval Office...
988
00:58:49,809 --> 00:58:53,378
one day and he was,
989
00:58:53,545 --> 00:58:56,215
he-he was chewing on a...
990
00:58:56,382 --> 00:59:00,887
cigar and he looked at it
in a sort of...
991
00:59:03,088 --> 00:59:06,826
naughty way and I said,
992
00:59:06,893 --> 00:59:11,731
"We can do that sometime."
So we did.
993
00:59:12,831 --> 00:59:15,268
Did you understand it
to be arousing?
994
00:59:16,902 --> 00:59:18,938
- Yes.
- Then what happened?
995
00:59:29,414 --> 00:59:31,117
Um...
996
00:59:32,351 --> 00:59:36,755
He put it in his mouth.
He said it tasted good.
997
00:59:40,259 --> 00:59:42,695
Okay, I have
just one last question.
998
00:59:42,795 --> 00:59:44,429
It goes to your motivation.
999
00:59:46,099 --> 00:59:49,268
Do you for any reason
want to hurt the president?
1000
00:59:51,269 --> 00:59:53,806
No, that's the last thing
I want.
1001
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:55,775
All right.
1002
00:59:55,909 --> 00:59:59,445
Thank you.
You did really well, Monica.
1003
01:00:00,980 --> 01:00:03,382
That's all I have.
I have to run this in.
1004
01:00:03,481 --> 01:00:06,119
Pam can help you see
yourself out.
1005
01:00:07,452 --> 01:00:09,621
Is it a boy or a girl?
1006
01:00:12,157 --> 01:00:15,961
It's a boy.
1007
01:00:16,061 --> 01:00:17,963
Mazel tov.
1008
01:00:19,398 --> 01:00:21,500
For your sake,
I hope this is goodbye.
1009
01:00:21,634 --> 01:00:23,635
♪
1010
01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:42,155
I want the full report ready
for Congress by Labor Day.
1011
01:00:42,288 --> 01:00:44,090
Judge, that's two weeks
from now.
1012
01:00:44,157 --> 01:00:45,992
Any closer to the election
and it will
1013
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:48,161
appear like a political hit
on the Democrats.
1014
01:00:48,260 --> 01:00:50,663
Brett, please make sure
everyone has their drafts in
1015
01:00:50,764 --> 01:00:51,998
by September 4th.
1016
01:00:52,164 --> 01:00:55,367
- Got it.
- Our FBI guys just
sent this 302.
1017
01:00:55,501 --> 01:00:57,202
It's a new interview
with Jane Doe 5.
1018
01:00:57,335 --> 01:00:59,672
Real name Juanita Broaddrick.
She's changing her statement.
1019
01:00:59,838 --> 01:01:02,340
- What she's saying?
- That Bill Clinton raped her.
1020
01:01:02,507 --> 01:01:05,344
This is that same woman who,
back in January,
1021
01:01:05,443 --> 01:01:07,512
signed an affidavit saying
nothing ever happened.
1022
01:01:07,679 --> 01:01:08,990
Right. Now she says
that was a lie.
1023
01:01:09,014 --> 01:01:11,217
Why is she lying?
Was she coerced by the Clintons?
1024
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:14,019
- No.
- Was she offered something?
1025
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:16,521
No, no quid pro quo.
She's saying she lied at first
1026
01:01:16,688 --> 01:01:18,208
because she didn't
want to be involved.
1027
01:01:18,291 --> 01:01:20,860
She's had no contact with
Clinton people since the '80s.
1028
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,103
Well, if he didn't pressure her,
1029
01:01:22,128 --> 01:01:23,605
then it doesn't go
to his criminality.
1030
01:01:23,628 --> 01:01:26,199
Except for the raping.
1031
01:01:26,298 --> 01:01:27,699
H-He raped her.
1032
01:01:27,867 --> 01:01:30,536
We can't be cluttering
the report with all
1033
01:01:30,635 --> 01:01:33,206
the various sexual experiences
from his past.
1034
01:01:33,371 --> 01:01:35,407
Yeah, there's only so much
ink in the world, Sol.
1035
01:01:35,541 --> 01:01:40,713
I just... Judge, read the 302,
read what he did.
1036
01:01:43,983 --> 01:01:46,719
Perjury and obstruction
of justice.
1037
01:01:46,885 --> 01:01:48,887
Those are our grounds
for impeachment,
1038
01:01:49,054 --> 01:01:51,056
not some lady
who changes her mind
1039
01:01:51,224 --> 01:01:52,423
about what happened one night.
1040
01:01:52,557 --> 01:01:54,893
But...
1041
01:01:57,329 --> 01:02:00,900
Okay. So, should we not
put her in the report at all?
1042
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,068
It can be an appendix
if you want.
1043
01:02:03,168 --> 01:02:04,838
Put her in a footnote.
1044
01:02:06,605 --> 01:02:07,739
Okay.
1045
01:02:12,846 --> 01:02:14,847
♪
1046
01:03:59,351 --> 01:04:02,188
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