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LACI:
Hello,Premeditated podcast
listeners.
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Have you ever heard
of Joe Kelsey?
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That was the name given
to a European immigrant
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after World War II.
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Joe spoke no English,
had no family and no friends,
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but in 1950, he landed a job
in a Poughkeepsie factory,
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where a watchman was killed
in a robbery.
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Joe confessed to the murder.
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He was executed
in the electric chair,
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leaving behind zero trace
of his existence
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except for one box
of evidence.
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I tracked that box
through federal,
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state and local warehouses,
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till it ended up
in government storage
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near Horseshoe Bay, Maine,
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where as fate would have it,
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a listener of
thisPremeditated pod
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with municipal connections
has promised
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to deliver me that box.
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In exchange, I'll be telling
this young woman
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everything I've ever unearthed
about the Frozen Hearts Killer,
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who-- as I have
frequently predicted--
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recently resurfaced.
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It's all going down
live at DetectiveCon
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in Portland, Maine.
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Featuring yours truly,
Laci McAllister.
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So mash that button
or just come and find me.
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♪
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I am so glad we're going
on this road trip.
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You're fired up
for DetectiveCon?
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Personally,
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I am not looking forward
to a bunch of
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cosplaying Sherlock Holmeses
pointing
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their magnifying glasses
at me.
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But if we want to catch
the Frozen Hearts Killer,
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this is a trade
we have to make.
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Didn't I recently see you
giving a press conference?
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I mean, what's the point
of all this PR
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if you can't bask in
the adulation of your people?
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The only people that I have
are from Horseshoe Bay.
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Not to, you know, dampen
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your shocking enthusiasm
you have for DetectiveCon.
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Nah. DetectiveCon can bite
the entirety of my butt.
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I'm just stoked to go
anywhere where I don't have
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to think about having
Odette's spirit trapped
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in my subconscious,
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or anywhere where Nick
isn't stressing me out.
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Everything okay?No, everything's fine.
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Just sometimes the best way
to support someone you love
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is to give them the space
to do their thing,
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with their endless last-minute
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youth center-opening
to-do lists.
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Woo-hoo, DetectiveCon.
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♪
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♪ Hey!
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♪ Ooh-ooh, hey, ooh-ooh-ooh.
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What do you think
Laci McAllister thinks
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she's gonna find in here?
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Joe Kelsey's crime and execution
is a closed case.
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GEORGE:
Not our problem.
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It's just our ticket
to getting her to tell us
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the Frozen Hearts Killer's
identity confidentially,
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without podcasting about it,
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which could send the killer
into hiding.
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ACE:
If she has all this information,
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why hasn't she gone
to the police?
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NANCY:
She tried.
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Turns out, when you keep
claiming to solve
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another unsolvable crime
without actually solving it,
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law enforcement stops
trusting you.
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[tape crinkling]
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ACE:
I don't think the podcast lady
wants you poking through that.
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It's just that the tape is...
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the tape is alr--
is already loose.
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BESS:
They ditched us.
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We-We've been ditched.
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They did not ditch us.
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Your fiancée yelled,
"Winter of George,"
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and then jumped
into the backseat
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with her feet out the window.
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Yeah, 'cause George and I
both realized
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I was stressing her out,
and it'd be better
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if I just took this down
the homestretch without her.
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And Nancy probably assumed
you had your own stuff going on.
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Yeah, well,
that's not accurate.
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Are you sure you haven't
seen my youth center list?
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It was on a, uh,
a yellow legal pad
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and had things on it like,
uh, delivery details
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and contact info
for my new STEM hire.
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It did not have
"waste morning
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looking for the list" on it.Okay. Easy.
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You know what, I'm starting to
understand George's motivation.
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I'm supposed to
open tomorrow, Bess.
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I can't mess this up.
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There are kids who need me
not to mess this up.
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[sighs] Why didn't I take
a picture of it on my phone?
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[whispers]:
Or you could've just written it
on your phone.
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Um, have you check
yesterday's jeans?
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That's it.
Yesterday's jeans.
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[chuckles]:
Look at us.
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Oh, no, wait, wait, wait.
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Do-do you want me to come
with you to the youth center?
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Oh, thanks, but no.
I'm-I'm in the zone,
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and I got my new staff member
coming over to help me.
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And so I'll just leave
you to your, um, uh...
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uh, yourself.
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Yeah, I've got my own things
to do, so...[door opens and closes]
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The lid is really on there.
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Yeah, 70 years'
worth of people
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with the good sense
not to mess with it.
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You know, it's not
too late to leave it
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the heck alone.[Nancy grunts]
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Ooh, ah.
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And you don't. You never do.
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Look at those boots.
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These are all of
Joe Kelsey's possessions.
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Okay, that is moderately cool.
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Can I see that watch?
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"Vos-tok."
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Vostok?
Huh?
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Soviet.
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My zadiehas one
his father gave him.
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GEORGE:
No way.
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I think it's still ticking.
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Built 'em different back then.
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Is that dried blood?
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Yeah, I think it's
the murder weapon.
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Let's see.
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It's a police report.
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Uh, and the original
coroner's notes.
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[stammers]
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"Blunt force trauma
to the right side of the skull.
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Angle of impact indicates a
downward attack from the rear."
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Huh.
Seems like somebody
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who worked at the same factory
as Joe Kelsey
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tried to clear him.
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But by then,
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the police already had
his full confession.
[shushes]
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You guys smell something?
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Electrical spark?
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The heat is off.What does this do?
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ACE:
No.
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Florence's panel looks
all right.
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What, is it outside?
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Uh, no.
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[loud static on radio]
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Ooh.
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That's weird.
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[static continues]
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Florence,
your slip is showing.
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[engine sputtering]
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Ooh, we're losing
power now.
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Hold on,
I'm gonna take the next exit.
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Hold on.
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[car rattling]
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[engine stalling]
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Um, something's burning,
you guys.
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[sniffs]
Something wrong
with the wiring?
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[all gasp]
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[speaking Yiddish]
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Oh!
NANCY:
Oh, my God!
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Come on, Florence.[engine stalling]
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[panting]
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GEORGE:
What the hell was that?
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I told you not to open
that box.
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Okay,
what just happened tells us
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that the items
in the box are haunted.
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By the ghost of
a cold-blooded murderer
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who was executed
by the electric chair.
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Or maybe he burned
to death?
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Electrocution can result
in burns like that.
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I saw it happen to Josh Dodd.
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I'm sure it was
a horrible way to die,
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but why does the ghost want to
take it out on Florence?
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[horn honking]
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[honking stops]
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I've only got like half a bar.
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We're gonna have to go up there.
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Inside the nightmare factory?
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How come you
never take a vote?
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Sorry, girl.
We'll be right back.
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[door creaks]
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[door closing]No!
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We're locked in.
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Locked in?
Are you kidding me?
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NANCY:
Joe Kelsey's things went
everywhere.
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We should put the stuff
back in the box.
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There's more stuff up here.
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GEORGE:
How far did these things go?
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[door opens and closes]
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Where did that coaster
come from?
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Well,
if it isn't "glampy."
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[scoffs]
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If it isn't my most tedious
coffee date ever.
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[scoffs]
You stalk much?
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I told you
I wasn't interested.
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And you're trailing mud
on my rugs.
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[sighs]
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I did not come in here
looking for you.
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I'm looking for
historical documentation
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about former Passamaquoddy land
in Horseshoe Bay,
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specifically for this address.
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Well, as a matter of fact,
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you are looking for me.
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In the absence of the woman
who's normally in charge here,
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I have recently began
an internship
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as a historical intern.
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Great.
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Suppose you absolutely need
the electric kettle
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to brew a cup of tea.
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You know, thermal shock
from overly hot water
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can burn sensitive tea leaves.
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I'm not one
for reading tea leaves,
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but maybe try being
less sensitive.
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If you want to check this out,
I'm gonna need your name.
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Abby, was it?
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Addy. Soctomah.
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Have this back to you
by end of day.
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And if I'm not here,
then I guess
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I'll just see you never.
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Mm. That would be too soon.
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[phone vibrating]
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Oh.
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Hi, George.
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You missed me, right?
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You're stuck in a what?
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[phone beeps]Okay.
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Bess is working up a plan
of action for the haunted box,
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and then she's gonna come
pick us up.
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Found Joe Kelsey's watch.
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[Nancy sighs]
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I am guessing that his
ghost did not want us
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to look at the
evidence in the box.
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Us? I assume this is
the royal we
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from the soon-to-be
queen of DetectiveCon.
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But why?
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He confessed to the murder.
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He was executed for it.
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What did his confession say?
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Oh, thank you.
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"I, Joe Kelsey,
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"being of sound mind
and informed of my rights,
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"do hereby waive
my right to a trial.
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"I confess that on
the night of July 17, 1950
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"in Poughkeepsie, New York,
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"while attempting to take
a cash box
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from the offices..."[slow clanking]
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[gasps]
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No. I really don't like
that sound.
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"I struck the night watchman
a blow with my hammer."
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So, of course, you follow it.
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No one cares about George.
Whatever.
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Here.
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Wait, hold on.
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ACE:
That's his hammer.
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00:11:49,099 --> 00:11:50,710
Whoa.
257
00:11:54,409 --> 00:11:56,541
Oh, watch out!He's not aiming at us.
258
00:11:58,848 --> 00:12:00,371
Where are we?
259
00:12:00,415 --> 00:12:01,895
Joe Kelsey's ghost is
260
00:12:01,938 --> 00:12:04,462
restaging the crime?
261
00:12:04,506 --> 00:12:06,508
[speaking Yiddish]
262
00:12:09,119 --> 00:12:10,207
What is he saying?
263
00:12:10,251 --> 00:12:12,296
Nachtmensch.
264
00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:14,298
Nightman.
Is that German?
265
00:12:14,342 --> 00:12:15,909
I think it's Yiddish.
266
00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:21,479
[speaking Yiddish]
267
00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:22,742
Look out!
268
00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:24,526
[screams]
269
00:12:24,569 --> 00:12:26,571
GEORGE:Oh, my God!
Nancy.
270
00:12:33,187 --> 00:12:35,885
[grunts]
Help me!
271
00:12:35,929 --> 00:12:38,496
Come on.
I got you.
272
00:12:38,540 --> 00:12:40,716
[grunting]
273
00:12:44,372 --> 00:12:46,461
[sighs]
274
00:12:46,504 --> 00:12:48,724
Dude, I didn't know
you spoke Yiddish.
275
00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:49,725
I don't.
276
00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:51,683
My grandparents did.
277
00:12:51,727 --> 00:12:54,121
I only remember a couple words
here and there.
278
00:12:54,164 --> 00:12:56,384
Something about that reenactment
didn't make sense.
279
00:12:56,427 --> 00:12:59,517
Just one thing?
280
00:12:59,561 --> 00:13:01,171
Joe Kelsey was left-handed.
281
00:13:01,215 --> 00:13:03,434
Or his ghost was
at least.
282
00:13:03,478 --> 00:13:05,175
He swung with his left hand.
283
00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:06,220
And?
284
00:13:07,699 --> 00:13:09,223
And...
285
00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:12,530
the coroner's
report indicates
286
00:13:12,574 --> 00:13:15,707
that the killer swung
with his right hand.
287
00:13:15,751 --> 00:13:18,710
A downward blow
from behind
288
00:13:18,754 --> 00:13:20,582
to the right side of the skull
would be consistent
289
00:13:20,625 --> 00:13:22,671
with a right-handed attack.
290
00:13:22,714 --> 00:13:24,325
Maybe it was left-handed
291
00:13:24,368 --> 00:13:26,283
and just kept hitting
the same spot?
292
00:13:26,327 --> 00:13:27,981
It wouldn't match
the blood spatter on the wall.
293
00:13:28,024 --> 00:13:29,373
So, what the ghost showed us
294
00:13:29,417 --> 00:13:30,940
matches his confession,
295
00:13:30,984 --> 00:13:33,508
but it's not
what actually happened?NANCY: Right.
296
00:13:33,551 --> 00:13:35,727
The evidence can't lie.
297
00:13:35,771 --> 00:13:37,642
But a-a ghost can.
298
00:13:37,686 --> 00:13:39,644
Maybe he wants us
to believe
299
00:13:39,688 --> 00:13:41,864
that he was the murderer.
300
00:13:41,908 --> 00:13:43,387
Uh, we already think that.
301
00:13:43,431 --> 00:13:44,475
Right, the world did.
302
00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:49,089
Based on, what,
a confession
303
00:13:49,132 --> 00:13:51,482
that could have easily been
falsified and written
304
00:13:51,526 --> 00:13:54,050
by cops who spoke
fluent English, unlike Joe.
305
00:13:54,094 --> 00:13:55,443
So, they executed
306
00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:57,271
an innocent man.
307
00:13:57,314 --> 00:13:59,316
Yeah.
308
00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,318
But that's not why he's upset.
309
00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:03,930
He's upset about
the lie being exposed
310
00:14:03,973 --> 00:14:06,410
by people looking
too deep into the evidence.
311
00:14:06,454 --> 00:14:08,630
That's why he's trying to
keep it all locked up here.
312
00:14:08,673 --> 00:14:10,893
I mean, but why would a ghost
work so hard
313
00:14:10,937 --> 00:14:13,026
to convince us that he's guilty
if he's not?
314
00:14:13,069 --> 00:14:15,419
I don't know.
That's the question.
315
00:14:15,463 --> 00:14:16,943
Hey.
316
00:14:20,424 --> 00:14:22,905
The matchbook from
Joe's personal effects.
317
00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:25,081
Imagine living your whole life,
318
00:14:25,125 --> 00:14:26,953
and this is all you leave
on the planet
319
00:14:26,996 --> 00:14:28,258
to show you were
ever here.
320
00:14:28,302 --> 00:14:29,738
[phone vibrating]Ooh, I sure hope that's Bess
321
00:14:29,781 --> 00:14:31,914
with something useful.
322
00:14:31,958 --> 00:14:33,046
[sighs][phone beeps]
323
00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:34,221
All right, what you got?
324
00:14:34,264 --> 00:14:36,440
So, I found an account
in Hannah's files
325
00:14:36,484 --> 00:14:39,443
about a curio shop that was
selling estate sale heirlooms
326
00:14:39,487 --> 00:14:41,706
by a ghost who still wanted
to possess them.
327
00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:44,579
So the shopkeeper burned them
all and the spirit moved on.
328
00:14:44,622 --> 00:14:47,277
Sweet.
Bess says burn it all.
329
00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:48,888
You're on speaker.[phone beeps]
330
00:14:48,931 --> 00:14:51,151
Um, that-that's gonna cause
big problems,
331
00:14:51,194 --> 00:14:53,762
because I promised the evidence
to Laci.
332
00:14:53,805 --> 00:14:56,330
But the ghost doesn't want
the evidence examined.
333
00:14:56,373 --> 00:14:58,332
I mean, does Laci even know
what's in the box?
334
00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:00,160
Okay.
That is a good point.
335
00:15:00,203 --> 00:15:01,552
It's a mystery box.
336
00:15:01,596 --> 00:15:04,338
So if she opens it,
anything that looks 1950s-like,
337
00:15:04,381 --> 00:15:06,514
it should still feel legit.
338
00:15:06,557 --> 00:15:07,732
Exactly.
339
00:15:07,776 --> 00:15:09,125
And there's plenty
of vintage decorations
340
00:15:09,169 --> 00:15:11,040
at the Historical Society
that could fit the bill.
341
00:15:11,084 --> 00:15:14,304
I mean, it's misleading
and not very honest.
342
00:15:14,348 --> 00:15:15,523
Eh...
343
00:15:15,566 --> 00:15:17,177
But in the debate
between what Laci wants
344
00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:18,656
versus what the ghost wants,
345
00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:20,267
I think we should prioritize
the lives we can save
346
00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:21,616
by catching
the Frozen Hearts Killer
347
00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:23,313
as quickly as possible.Agreed.
348
00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:25,054
All right,
bring the fake evidence, Bess.
349
00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:27,404
Where would we be without you?
350
00:15:27,448 --> 00:15:29,276
Mm, broken down,
trapped in a factory
351
00:15:29,319 --> 00:15:30,712
and haunted, I imagine.
352
00:15:30,755 --> 00:15:31,713
Ciao.
353
00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:33,802
Ted.
354
00:15:33,845 --> 00:15:35,456
Uh, is Nick about?
355
00:15:35,499 --> 00:15:36,979
He's trying to fix
the Wi-Fi.
356
00:15:37,023 --> 00:15:38,285
Okay.
357
00:15:38,328 --> 00:15:39,982
Okay, Ted,
give it another shot.
358
00:15:40,026 --> 00:15:41,027
Hey.
359
00:15:42,637 --> 00:15:43,899
Wi-Fi.
360
00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,118
Okay, good.
361
00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:46,771
Now you can get
your homework done, huh?
362
00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:50,123
Jesse says you haven't been
turning in assignments?
363
00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:52,995
That's not like you.
What's going on?
364
00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,780
Nothing. I'm fine.
365
00:15:57,913 --> 00:15:59,219
Found my list.
366
00:15:59,262 --> 00:16:01,177
Almost done. What's up?
367
00:16:01,221 --> 00:16:03,310
It's not as bad
as it sounds.
368
00:16:03,353 --> 00:16:05,051
Oh, that's
a comforting preamble.
369
00:16:05,094 --> 00:16:07,096
Okay, but Nancy, uh, George
and Ace are trapped
370
00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:08,489
in an abandoned factory
371
00:16:08,532 --> 00:16:10,012
by a ghost
who only speaks Yiddish.
372
00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,320
Okay.
So, what do they need?
373
00:16:13,363 --> 00:16:15,235
Antiques,
which I can give them.
374
00:16:15,278 --> 00:16:17,237
And a ride that
you can give me.
375
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,542
Okay. Okay.Yeah.
376
00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:20,544
Uh, Jesse's putting
together bookshelves,
377
00:16:20,588 --> 00:16:21,937
so let me see
if my new STEM counselor
378
00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:23,025
can-can watch things here.
379
00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,113
She's a godsend.Okay.
380
00:16:24,157 --> 00:16:25,114
Uh, Addy?
381
00:16:25,158 --> 00:16:27,160
No.
382
00:16:29,597 --> 00:16:31,816
I talked to my contact at
the state recorder's office.
383
00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:33,166
These documents
should get us
384
00:16:33,209 --> 00:16:35,298
the plaque.
385
00:16:36,386 --> 00:16:39,563
Oh, uh, oh, this place was built
on unceded lands
386
00:16:39,607 --> 00:16:42,088
that belong to
the Passamaquoddy.
387
00:16:42,131 --> 00:16:44,525
So, we're gonna get a plaque
out front to commemorate.
388
00:16:44,568 --> 00:16:45,787
So, she works here?
389
00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:47,876
NICK:
Yeah.
390
00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:50,487
Huh.
Yeah, you two, uh...
391
00:16:50,531 --> 00:16:52,750
you know each other?
392
00:16:52,794 --> 00:16:55,405
Hmm. Oh, you know,
we should go.
393
00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:57,016
Our friends
really need us, so...
394
00:16:57,059 --> 00:16:59,409
Yeah. Addy, can you hold it down
here for a few hours?
395
00:16:59,453 --> 00:17:00,671
Oh, yeah. Sure thing.
396
00:17:05,372 --> 00:17:07,243
Guess we'll be seeing more
of each other after all.
397
00:17:07,287 --> 00:17:08,897
Hmm.
398
00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:11,639
Come on, Nick.
Let's go.
399
00:17:15,643 --> 00:17:16,992
Joe Kelsey,
400
00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:19,081
we have heard you.
401
00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:20,909
Your secret is safe with us.
402
00:17:20,952 --> 00:17:23,303
We will not tell your story.
No one will ever know.
403
00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:25,827
This we promise.
404
00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:27,481
Okay. Are we sure
that we found everything?
405
00:17:27,524 --> 00:17:29,091
Yeah.
406
00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:30,658
There's nothing left of him.
407
00:17:35,924 --> 00:17:37,230
Thank you, Joe.
408
00:17:41,712 --> 00:17:43,714
♪
409
00:17:46,543 --> 00:17:48,545
[fire crackling]
410
00:17:50,243 --> 00:17:52,201
[engine starts]
411
00:17:53,246 --> 00:17:55,161
Feels normal.
412
00:17:55,204 --> 00:17:56,814
All right.
413
00:17:56,858 --> 00:17:58,338
We back in business.
414
00:17:58,381 --> 00:17:59,861
Okay.
415
00:17:59,904 --> 00:18:02,559
I will text Nick and Bess
to tell them to meet us
416
00:18:02,603 --> 00:18:04,300
at the convention site.
417
00:18:04,344 --> 00:18:06,128
[shifts gear]
418
00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:08,174
♪
419
00:18:26,322 --> 00:18:28,324
What was the name again?
420
00:18:28,368 --> 00:18:30,065
Nancy Drew.
421
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:31,762
GEORGE:Feel like you would've
been bigger here.
422
00:18:31,806 --> 00:18:34,591
I guess my legend's
purely coastal.
423
00:18:34,635 --> 00:18:36,506
Great costume.
424
00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:39,509
BESS:
Hey.
425
00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:42,164
Oh, here.
Yeah.
426
00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:44,210
Hi. I am so sorry
to pull you away.
Hey.
427
00:18:44,253 --> 00:18:45,776
I know you have so much
on your plate right now.
428
00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:47,648
I got it all under control.
My new hire's on it.
429
00:18:47,691 --> 00:18:49,171
The kids are plugged in.
430
00:18:49,215 --> 00:18:50,390
I got time to have some fun.
431
00:18:50,433 --> 00:18:51,782
Really?Yeah.
432
00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:53,741
Aw, 'cause I didn't need to be
away from you.
433
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,657
Let's have fun.
434
00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,267
At DetectiveCon.
435
00:18:58,311 --> 00:18:59,312
Hmm.
436
00:18:59,355 --> 00:19:02,271
Ah,
it was under "Drew Nancy."
437
00:19:02,315 --> 00:19:04,012
Here are your passes
for the floor, your lanyards,
438
00:19:04,055 --> 00:19:06,057
and your clue sheet.
439
00:19:06,101 --> 00:19:07,363
This year's
incognito nemesis is
440
00:19:07,407 --> 00:19:10,149
diabolical social worker.
441
00:19:10,192 --> 00:19:12,847
If you solve the mystery
and track down your nemesis,
442
00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:15,763
you win a gift card
to Bread Herring Fish & Chips.
443
00:19:15,806 --> 00:19:18,026
Cute.
Cool.
444
00:19:18,069 --> 00:19:20,855
Hey, um, so...
445
00:19:20,898 --> 00:19:23,118
as requested.
446
00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,119
Did you burn everything?
447
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:25,251
Yes.
448
00:19:25,294 --> 00:19:26,426
GEORGE:
Good plan, Bess. It worked.
449
00:19:26,469 --> 00:19:28,819
Hey, but you keptthe box
450
00:19:28,863 --> 00:19:31,344
and-and this gross
old tape?
451
00:19:31,387 --> 00:19:34,260
Joe Kelsey's ghost opened
the door and let us out.
452
00:19:34,303 --> 00:19:35,435
So maybe he didn't care
about the wrapping?
453
00:19:35,478 --> 00:19:36,610
Yeah, but you didn't
burn everything.
454
00:19:36,653 --> 00:19:38,264
We need to get rid
of this tape, too.
455
00:19:38,307 --> 00:19:40,309
We need to make this box look
like Nancy never messed with it.
456
00:19:40,353 --> 00:19:42,877
It just has to be good enough
to fool Laci
457
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,096
so she gives me
her Frozen Hearts Killer info.
458
00:19:46,968 --> 00:19:48,970
[groans]
459
00:19:51,929 --> 00:19:53,366
Very nice.
460
00:19:53,409 --> 00:19:54,845
DetectiveCon,
here we come.
461
00:19:54,889 --> 00:19:56,020
[exhales]
462
00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:03,767
[panting]
463
00:20:03,811 --> 00:20:05,813
[takes deep breath]
464
00:20:05,856 --> 00:20:07,815
You all right?
465
00:20:07,858 --> 00:20:09,120
[speaking Yiddish]
466
00:20:11,297 --> 00:20:12,820
Beg your pardon?
467
00:20:12,863 --> 00:20:14,561
My head is burning.
468
00:20:21,002 --> 00:20:22,960
[crying]
469
00:20:36,452 --> 00:20:38,454
What is happening
with you right now?
470
00:20:49,987 --> 00:20:53,164
They said Laci should be
in the mainstage area.
471
00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:56,037
Okay, let's try not to get...
separated.
472
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,212
What?
473
00:20:57,256 --> 00:20:59,823
What the hell is that?
474
00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:00,824
Hey,
475
00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:02,652
why does that look exactly
476
00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:03,958
like your Claw uniform?
477
00:21:04,001 --> 00:21:06,743
You totally nailed her.
478
00:21:06,787 --> 00:21:08,310
I nailed who?
479
00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:11,139
You know what would round it out
is a nametag.
480
00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:16,275
Oh, my...
481
00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,233
What... Are you...Oh,
482
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,887
so George of you
to pretend you don't know.
483
00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:22,324
We're
the Fan Fans.
484
00:21:22,368 --> 00:21:25,545
Fans of George Fan.
We also sell
485
00:21:25,588 --> 00:21:27,242
officially licensed crowbars.
486
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:28,548
Huh.
487
00:21:28,591 --> 00:21:30,419
"Purchase your own George Fan
488
00:21:30,463 --> 00:21:32,160
official merchandise."
489
00:21:32,203 --> 00:21:34,815
You know, a tribute
to the anonymously-penned,
490
00:21:34,858 --> 00:21:38,122
epic legend of George Fan
the ghost detective.
491
00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:41,256
She gruesomely died,
then returned from the dead
492
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:42,953
to solve supernatural mysteries
493
00:21:42,997 --> 00:21:45,173
with her plucky sidekick,
Nancy Drew.
494
00:21:45,216 --> 00:21:48,219
Oh. Plucky.
495
00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:50,657
Okay, how-how did
all of this happen?
496
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:52,267
Wait.
497
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:54,051
You really aren't a fan?
498
00:21:54,095 --> 00:21:56,315
No, girl. I am theFan!
499
00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:57,881
Who-who is writing about me?
500
00:21:57,925 --> 00:21:59,274
Where can I find
these stories?
501
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:00,623
Uh, well, online.
502
00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:03,365
I am really glad
I made this trip.
503
00:22:08,979 --> 00:22:10,503
[groans]
504
00:22:12,156 --> 00:22:14,376
Have some of this.[groans]
505
00:22:14,420 --> 00:22:16,813
Feels like an electrical
storm in my brain.
506
00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:18,946
Well, the Con can be
very overwhelming.
507
00:22:18,989 --> 00:22:21,601
Plus, you owe me
four dollars for that water.
508
00:22:21,644 --> 00:22:22,863
[chuckles]
509
00:22:22,906 --> 00:22:24,908
Hey.
510
00:22:24,952 --> 00:22:27,607
Nearly got a smile out of you.
511
00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:30,044
Nick says that
I was imagining things,
512
00:22:30,087 --> 00:22:31,828
but when you didn't invite me
to this adventure,
513
00:22:31,872 --> 00:22:35,832
I thought that you were
leaving me behind on purpose.
514
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,967
I guess I was feeling
a little bit mothered by you.
515
00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:42,143
So, I was right.
516
00:22:43,884 --> 00:22:47,017
Wait. Mothered?
517
00:22:48,497 --> 00:22:50,586
Ace, you needed it.
518
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:53,894
Letting Mr. Bobbsey
worm his way into your life.
519
00:22:53,937 --> 00:22:55,504
I kicked him out of my car.
520
00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:57,376
That doesn't mean it's over.
521
00:22:57,419 --> 00:23:00,074
People like that don't take no
for an answer, trust me.
522
00:23:00,117 --> 00:23:01,554
[groans]
523
00:23:01,597 --> 00:23:03,991
Okay. Okay, let's just deal
with one problem at a time.
524
00:23:04,034 --> 00:23:06,167
You have to sit down.
Now.
525
00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:09,997
I think I made a connection
with Joe Kelsey's ghost.
526
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,783
Maybe because I kept something
527
00:23:13,827 --> 00:23:15,829
from his evidence box.
528
00:23:17,483 --> 00:23:21,400
That is exactly
what I told you not to do.
529
00:23:21,443 --> 00:23:23,445
I know.Okay, whatever it is,
530
00:23:23,489 --> 00:23:25,360
we need to burn it right now.
531
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:30,409
♪
532
00:23:31,845 --> 00:23:34,108
He's showing me something else.
533
00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:44,901
What? Are you...
534
00:23:47,251 --> 00:23:49,210
Wha...
535
00:23:53,301 --> 00:23:54,998
Okay, your face is on fire
536
00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:56,913
like someone has just sat you
in an electric chair,
537
00:23:56,957 --> 00:23:59,002
and you're randomly
speaking in Yiddish.
538
00:23:59,046 --> 00:24:02,397
We need to neutralize
this curse right now.
539
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:05,052
Come on.No.
540
00:24:05,095 --> 00:24:07,315
I have to see what his ghost
is trying to tell me.
541
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,709
But why?
542
00:24:09,752 --> 00:24:12,189
Joe had numbers on his arm.
543
00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:13,800
Just like my grandfather.
544
00:24:13,843 --> 00:24:15,715
I have to know
545
00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:18,413
why someone
who survived the Holocaust
546
00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:19,849
would decide to give up
547
00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:22,417
his own life in America.But...
548
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:24,158
Ace, come back here, now.
549
00:24:24,201 --> 00:24:25,202
[exclaims softly]
550
00:24:26,247 --> 00:24:27,944
Laci?
551
00:24:27,988 --> 00:24:30,251
Hi, I'm-I'm
Nancy Drew.
552
00:24:30,294 --> 00:24:32,906
Oh, my God, um, hi.
553
00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:34,342
You're real.
554
00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:36,605
I think so.
[chuckles]
555
00:24:36,649 --> 00:24:40,087
Is that it--
the Joe Kelsey evidence?
556
00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:42,263
I can't believe it.Uh,
557
00:24:42,306 --> 00:24:45,396
I know how much you care
about the Joe Kelsey case.
558
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,095
And I know how much you care
559
00:24:48,138 --> 00:24:49,923
about catching
the Frozen Hearts Killer.
560
00:24:49,966 --> 00:24:53,404
Right. So, what do
you know about him?
561
00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:58,845
Well, I did a show
real early in my podcast
562
00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:01,543
where I proposed that FHK
stopped killing three years ago
563
00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:03,980
because he used argon
as a freezing agent
564
00:25:04,024 --> 00:25:05,504
and accidentally froze off
two of his fingers.
565
00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:08,811
I did a deep dive.
I listened to that episode.
566
00:25:08,855 --> 00:25:10,900
Yeah, but you can't listen
to my voice mails.
567
00:25:10,944 --> 00:25:13,686
A listener called in.
Which was remarkable,
568
00:25:13,729 --> 00:25:16,906
because although I get about
100,000 downloads per pod now,
569
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,692
I had no idea I had
any listeners back then.
570
00:25:19,735 --> 00:25:22,608
And he said he liked
the part when I said
571
00:25:22,651 --> 00:25:24,914
that FHK had a lot of pride.
572
00:25:24,958 --> 00:25:27,787
And that he targeted victims
who he felt slighted him.
573
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:29,658
You did listen.
574
00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:34,620
The caller thanked me
for, quote...
575
00:25:34,663 --> 00:25:36,099
"Getting it right."
576
00:25:36,143 --> 00:25:38,798
Well, he was claiming
to be the killer.Exactly.
577
00:25:38,841 --> 00:25:41,148
I profiled the caller,
I sifted through metadata,
578
00:25:41,191 --> 00:25:42,845
and I tracked
his digital footprint
579
00:25:42,889 --> 00:25:45,544
to the alias Richard Trott.
580
00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:47,937
The eight-fingered man.
I got that far, too.
581
00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:50,374
Did you get his real name?
582
00:25:50,418 --> 00:25:52,768
Rodric T. Hartt.
583
00:25:52,812 --> 00:25:55,205
That's Hartt with...Two Ts?
584
00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:58,948
It's an anagram.
Classic.
585
00:25:58,992 --> 00:26:00,689
He still occasionally
leaves me positive reviews.
586
00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:01,908
He gave me this great write-up
587
00:26:01,951 --> 00:26:05,607
after I spoke
at DetectiveCon '18 in Bangor.
588
00:26:05,651 --> 00:26:07,522
Are you planning to say
all of this on your show?
589
00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:10,612
Are you planning on letting go
of this box?
590
00:26:12,919 --> 00:26:14,050
Thank you.
591
00:26:14,094 --> 00:26:15,835
No. Thank you.
592
00:26:20,056 --> 00:26:21,754
Whoa, okay, can
you please not...
593
00:26:21,797 --> 00:26:23,582
No, don't-don't take a selfie
or post that.
594
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:24,757
No, I'm-I'm not signing
autographs.
595
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,454
I'm so sorry, I...
596
00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:28,369
Can someone please tell me who
the online anonymous author is?
597
00:26:28,412 --> 00:26:30,937
But you're so good
at solving mysteries.
598
00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:32,286
You should tell us.
599
00:26:32,329 --> 00:26:35,289
No.Hey, I just purchased
some of their merch
600
00:26:35,332 --> 00:26:38,335
and their payment app is linked
with one of my contacts.
601
00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:40,120
Uh-oh.
602
00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:41,425
What's uh-oh?
603
00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:45,125
Oh, look, it's-it's George's
plucky sidekick.
604
00:26:45,168 --> 00:26:47,127
George's what?
605
00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:49,085
Fan Fans?
606
00:26:49,129 --> 00:26:50,696
I'll get back to that.
607
00:26:50,739 --> 00:26:54,351
Listen, Laci gave me Trott's
real name and a decent profile.
608
00:26:54,395 --> 00:26:57,311
Sounds like he really loves
hearing himself talked about.
609
00:26:57,354 --> 00:26:59,661
Like a lot of serial killers,
610
00:26:59,705 --> 00:27:02,708
he follows his own investigation
and he...
611
00:27:02,751 --> 00:27:04,753
He's been to DetectiveCon
before.
612
00:27:04,797 --> 00:27:08,365
I just saw a lightbulb
go on over her head.
613
00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:14,502
Hey, can you go over there
and check in
614
00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:16,330
under the name
Rodric T. Hartt?
615
00:27:16,373 --> 00:27:18,201
Yeah. Got it.
616
00:27:20,203 --> 00:27:21,509
So, you're famous here.
617
00:27:21,552 --> 00:27:24,686
Trust me, I did not mean
to steal your thunder.
618
00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:26,427
I am definitely
not psyched
619
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:27,907
about someone telling my story,
620
00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:30,257
and also I hate not knowing
who started this legend.
621
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:33,782
Rodric T. Hartt has
already checked in.
622
00:27:33,826 --> 00:27:35,915
The Frozen Hearts Killer
is here.
623
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,667
♪
624
00:27:54,368 --> 00:27:56,283
WOMAN [over speaker]:
Hey, gumshoes!
625
00:27:56,326 --> 00:27:58,459
In ten minutes,
we'll be broadcasting live
626
00:27:58,502 --> 00:28:01,549
with Laci McAllister's
Premeditatedpodcast
627
00:28:01,592 --> 00:28:03,333
on the mainstage.
628
00:28:08,208 --> 00:28:10,166
WOMAN:
Do you need a seat?
629
00:28:13,474 --> 00:28:14,823
This isn't my first Con.
630
00:28:14,867 --> 00:28:16,956
I brought these chairs
from home.
631
00:28:16,999 --> 00:28:18,305
Thank you, ma'am.
632
00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:20,350
This is helpful.
633
00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:22,222
That's my granddaughter
up there.
634
00:28:22,265 --> 00:28:23,658
ACE:
Oh.
635
00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:33,146
Oh, your trash,
Nancy Drew.
636
00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:34,625
Is that Y-O-U-R
or apostrophe R-E?
637
00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:35,626
Both.
638
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,063
That isn't the real box.
639
00:28:37,106 --> 00:28:38,717
Y-You thought I would buy it?
640
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,153
This is DetectiveCon, bitch,
641
00:28:40,196 --> 00:28:43,330
and I needed the evidence
in the box.
642
00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:45,332
What, did you steal it
and keep it for yourself?
643
00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:47,769
No. I had to burn it.What?
644
00:28:47,813 --> 00:28:50,250
If you're trying to solve
the Kelsey case
645
00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:52,252
before I can...No, I'm not.
646
00:28:52,295 --> 00:28:54,515
I just...
I got distracted by it
647
00:28:54,558 --> 00:28:55,864
because I thought
it might have something to do
648
00:28:55,908 --> 00:28:57,344
with the Frozen
Hearts Killer.
649
00:28:57,387 --> 00:28:59,999
But listen... he's here.
650
00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:03,089
Rodric T. Hartt is in
the crowd somewhere.
651
00:29:03,132 --> 00:29:05,439
He checked in
under his real name,
652
00:29:05,482 --> 00:29:06,745
and I'm gonna lure him out.
653
00:29:09,835 --> 00:29:11,619
That's the sound of me blinking.
654
00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:13,752
We both want to catch this guy.
655
00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:16,624
And I need your help.
656
00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:19,758
Please.
657
00:29:22,282 --> 00:29:24,545
[indistinct chatter]
658
00:29:26,025 --> 00:29:27,722
Okay, so, what are
we looking for?
659
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:30,203
Uh, suspicious reactions from
the crowd during Laci's podcast.
660
00:29:30,246 --> 00:29:32,596
Someone who's really
interested, agitated,
661
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,947
you know, murder-y.
662
00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:37,732
[speaking Yiddish]NICK: Ace?
663
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:39,255
Ace?
664
00:29:39,299 --> 00:29:40,779
BESS:
He's fine.
665
00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:44,739
It's just some haunting residue
from unwise decisions.
666
00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:47,481
Hey, are you...
are you good
667
00:29:47,524 --> 00:29:49,178
to help us look for
the Frozen Hearts Killer?
668
00:29:50,223 --> 00:29:51,964
Yes.
669
00:29:52,007 --> 00:29:53,139
Yes. I can do that.
670
00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:55,054
No, no, no, whoa.
671
00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:56,359
Sit in the chair.Okay.
672
00:29:56,403 --> 00:29:57,883
I'm gonna look here.
673
00:29:57,926 --> 00:29:59,188
I'll cover this.
674
00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:00,363
You look over there.Great.
675
00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:02,061
Over there.
676
00:30:06,413 --> 00:30:09,720
Here, honey.
How are you feeling?
677
00:30:11,766 --> 00:30:13,724
Better. Better now.
678
00:30:13,768 --> 00:30:15,596
LACI:
Here we go, DetectiveCon.
679
00:30:15,639 --> 00:30:18,512
Laci McAllister
coming to you live.
680
00:30:18,555 --> 00:30:20,644
Let me hear it.
681
00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:26,737
Please welcome my guest:
682
00:30:26,781 --> 00:30:29,088
Horseshoe Bay's very own
little homegrown detective,
683
00:30:29,131 --> 00:30:30,872
Nancy Drew.
684
00:30:30,916 --> 00:30:33,614
[clapping, whooping]
685
00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:38,271
So, tell me
686
00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:39,533
about the profile
that you created
687
00:30:39,576 --> 00:30:40,534
for the Frozen Hearts Killer.
688
00:30:40,577 --> 00:30:44,146
NANCY:
Well, FHK
689
00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:45,931
loves to hear
himself talked about.
690
00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:48,324
He believes he's destined
to become a legend.
691
00:30:48,368 --> 00:30:51,371
But it's kind of sad, really,
692
00:30:51,414 --> 00:30:53,503
because he's a pathetic joke.
693
00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:55,462
You know why this guy
stopped killing?
694
00:30:55,505 --> 00:30:57,159
He froze his
own fingers off.
695
00:30:57,203 --> 00:31:00,467
LACI:Well, you can't reach
legend status
696
00:31:00,510 --> 00:31:01,598
if every kill costs you
a digit.
697
00:31:01,642 --> 00:31:02,904
NANCY:
Exactly.
698
00:31:02,948 --> 00:31:04,427
And your audience knows
what's really terrifying
699
00:31:04,471 --> 00:31:06,255
about a serial killer.
700
00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:07,866
The hunt.
701
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:09,780
But there's no
care invested
702
00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:11,173
in how he picks his targets,
703
00:31:11,217 --> 00:31:13,219
when he picks his targets.
704
00:31:13,262 --> 00:31:17,223
He-he is impulsive.
Stupid, really.
705
00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:20,226
Easily offended
and impatient.
706
00:31:20,269 --> 00:31:23,577
His is never gonna be a
name remembered by history.
707
00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:25,666
Hey!In fact,
708
00:31:25,709 --> 00:31:26,885
We should be focusing on
709
00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:28,451
remembering
the unfortunate victims,
710
00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:30,062
not immortalizing
some loser.
711
00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:31,672
You got me.
712
00:31:33,761 --> 00:31:37,025
Here's your gift card
to Bread Herring Fish & Chips.
713
00:31:37,069 --> 00:31:40,159
You're the incognito nemesis
714
00:31:40,202 --> 00:31:41,987
from the DetectiveCon game.Yeah.
715
00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:43,553
The diabolical social worker.
716
00:31:43,597 --> 00:31:45,468
Are you kidding me?
717
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:49,255
NANCY:
...who's blocked.
718
00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:51,126
But this guy's method--
719
00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:53,259
freezing the hearts
of his victims?
720
00:31:53,302 --> 00:31:54,869
LACI:
Let's take a moment
721
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:56,610
to remember
the most recent victims.
722
00:31:58,003 --> 00:31:59,961
[mouths]Matthew Burke.
723
00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:02,442
Dustin Yates.
724
00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:05,227
And that brings us
to a couple of messages
725
00:32:05,271 --> 00:32:06,794
from my sponsors.
726
00:32:06,837 --> 00:32:08,361
Back in five.
727
00:32:08,404 --> 00:32:12,017
[applause]I am gonna go get my
notes from the car.
728
00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:13,757
And then after the
commercial break,
729
00:32:13,801 --> 00:32:15,107
I can go over the
crime scene details.
730
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:17,239
Maybe that'll catch
the killer's attention.
731
00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:19,154
Okay.
732
00:32:24,072 --> 00:32:26,770
[indistinct chatter]
733
00:32:26,814 --> 00:32:28,120
[door closes]
734
00:32:30,818 --> 00:32:32,820
♪
735
00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:48,662
[doorknob rattling]
736
00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:53,972
What you said about
me wasn't true.
737
00:32:59,194 --> 00:33:01,196
♪
738
00:33:08,421 --> 00:33:09,900
Hello, Rodric.
739
00:33:09,944 --> 00:33:11,772
Huh.
740
00:33:11,815 --> 00:33:14,035
And you said you'd
never say my name.
741
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:18,083
Also, you were wrong
to call me sloppy.
742
00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,172
It's just...
743
00:33:20,215 --> 00:33:22,304
It's-it's not easy.
744
00:33:22,348 --> 00:33:24,698
But I'm...
745
00:33:24,741 --> 00:33:26,743
I'm getting closer.
746
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,051
I'm-I'm getting it right.
747
00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:33,446
You want to be studied.
748
00:33:33,489 --> 00:33:35,491
You want to be known.
749
00:33:35,535 --> 00:33:37,493
You don't really get it.
750
00:33:37,537 --> 00:33:40,844
Maybe someone
else will, though.
751
00:33:40,888 --> 00:33:44,544
When they find
your heart frozen.
752
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:49,288
Richard Trott.Rodric Hartt.
753
00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:50,637
We know who you are.
754
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,986
Put your hands up.
755
00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:57,818
[shouts]
756
00:34:02,736 --> 00:34:04,259
[chuckles]
757
00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:08,481
[handcuffs clicking]
758
00:34:11,658 --> 00:34:14,052
What happened
to Matthew Burke's heart?
759
00:34:14,095 --> 00:34:15,531
Why did you take it?
760
00:34:15,575 --> 00:34:17,011
What don't I get?
761
00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:19,579
I'm a part of something
much bigger.
762
00:34:19,622 --> 00:34:21,624
You'll never understand.
763
00:34:40,165 --> 00:34:41,383
Are you okay?
764
00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:44,430
[siren chirps]Yeah, just like we planned.
765
00:34:44,473 --> 00:34:46,475
[cars depart]
766
00:34:56,572 --> 00:34:58,487
Hey, you finish your homework?
767
00:34:59,575 --> 00:35:01,751
What else would I be doing?Oh, I don't know--
768
00:35:01,795 --> 00:35:05,103
just checking your Fan Fan sales
on a payment app?
769
00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:08,541
Are you mad?
770
00:35:10,673 --> 00:35:13,328
Ted, how'd you
even find out
771
00:35:13,372 --> 00:35:15,200
about all that stuff
that happened?
772
00:35:15,243 --> 00:35:18,377
Odette told me.
I thought it was cool.
773
00:35:19,421 --> 00:35:21,771
So you were...
774
00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:23,164
proud of me?
775
00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:25,601
I guess.
776
00:35:28,691 --> 00:35:31,346
Well, then...
777
00:35:31,390 --> 00:35:32,826
I guess I'm a Fan Fan, too.
778
00:35:34,262 --> 00:35:36,177
Sign me up.
779
00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:37,396
It's ten dollars to join.
780
00:35:37,439 --> 00:35:38,832
Excuse you?
781
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,573
I was gonna share the money.
782
00:35:45,273 --> 00:35:47,319
Well, okay.
[chuckles]
783
00:35:47,362 --> 00:35:49,495
That's a lot of money.
Okay, you know what,
784
00:35:49,538 --> 00:35:52,802
I'm gonna try to encourage
your entrepreneurial spirit.
785
00:35:52,846 --> 00:35:54,978
But no slacking off
in school over this
786
00:35:55,022 --> 00:35:57,677
or taking my old hoodies
and selling them without asking.
787
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:59,200
And you're still grounded.
788
00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:00,593
[sighs]Do you want me
789
00:36:00,636 --> 00:36:02,116
to limit her Wi-Fi access here?
790
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,639
Mm, no.
791
00:36:03,683 --> 00:36:05,685
She'll just find a workaround,
'cause that's who she is.
792
00:36:05,728 --> 00:36:07,600
And that's fine.
793
00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:12,300
I mean, that's why you're
making this space, right?
794
00:36:12,344 --> 00:36:15,216
So that people can connect
over who they really are.
795
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:18,567
That's one thing you can
check off your to-do list.
796
00:36:21,091 --> 00:36:22,441
[chuckles]
797
00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,059
[clears throat]
798
00:36:35,105 --> 00:36:37,934
You know, you're
the only person
799
00:36:37,978 --> 00:36:39,414
that I've been
on a date with
800
00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:41,547
who was disappointed I didn't
want to just get coffee.
801
00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:47,466
Conversation isn't a deterrent
for someone with depth.
802
00:36:47,509 --> 00:36:49,076
[chuckles]
803
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,512
You know what I did today
804
00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:52,035
other than make
a perfect cup of tea?
805
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,256
Hmm.I helped my friends deal
806
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,998
with paranormal mishaps.
I solved a case.
807
00:36:58,041 --> 00:36:59,478
I caught a serial killer
808
00:36:59,521 --> 00:37:02,785
and I wrangled a haunted spirit.
809
00:37:02,829 --> 00:37:04,787
My life is swirling
810
00:37:04,831 --> 00:37:07,399
with weirdness that occasionally
811
00:37:07,442 --> 00:37:12,142
I like to go for a spot
of word-free physicality.
812
00:37:12,186 --> 00:37:13,622
Okay?
813
00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:16,451
♪ Maybe I'm addicted
to the fight... ♪
814
00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:19,672
I totally would have banged you,
815
00:37:19,715 --> 00:37:21,326
if I'd known
you were interesting.
816
00:37:21,369 --> 00:37:23,502
♪ So darkness turns
to daylight ♪
817
00:37:23,545 --> 00:37:25,547
♪
818
00:37:41,476 --> 00:37:44,392
Can't believe she caught
an actual serial killer.
819
00:37:44,436 --> 00:37:47,439
Well, it wasn't my plan.
It was, uh...
820
00:37:49,658 --> 00:37:53,314
Uh, look, everyone, sorry.
821
00:37:53,358 --> 00:37:55,229
I need to get my Grandma home.
822
00:38:05,935 --> 00:38:07,023
What is this?
823
00:38:07,067 --> 00:38:08,547
[gasps]
824
00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:11,071
Bluebird Motor Hotel?
825
00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:14,248
How did you get this matchbook?
826
00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:17,469
I kept one last item
from Joe Kelsey's evidence box.
827
00:38:17,512 --> 00:38:19,949
H-How do you know about Joe?
828
00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:21,951
Uh, Grandma,
829
00:38:21,995 --> 00:38:24,519
I, um, tried
to get the box
830
00:38:24,563 --> 00:38:25,738
of his
personal effects.
831
00:38:26,782 --> 00:38:29,568
I'm sorry.
832
00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:32,222
I didn't just want
the box for a podcast.
833
00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:33,441
It was for her.
834
00:38:33,485 --> 00:38:35,791
You knew him?
835
00:38:36,836 --> 00:38:38,490
We worked together.
836
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:39,534
NANCY:
Somebody who worked in
837
00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,319
the same factory as Joe Kelsey
838
00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:44,060
tried to clear him,
but by then,
839
00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:46,367
the police already had
his full confession.
840
00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:48,630
You knew he was innocent.
841
00:38:48,674 --> 00:38:49,718
[speaking Yiddish]
842
00:38:52,678 --> 00:38:54,984
Those were Joe's words.
843
00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:56,377
Do you know what they mean?
844
00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:03,297
"I'll never leave you,
sweetheart."
845
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:04,864
I couldn't understand
846
00:39:04,907 --> 00:39:06,822
most of what Joe said,
847
00:39:06,866 --> 00:39:08,911
but that's what
he'd whisper to me
848
00:39:08,955 --> 00:39:11,958
when it was time
for us to leave each other.
849
00:39:12,001 --> 00:39:13,829
Bluebird
850
00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:17,267
Motor Hotel was where we'd meet.
851
00:39:17,311 --> 00:39:20,488
We'd arrive separately
so no one would see us together.
852
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:24,405
It's where he was
the night of the murder.
853
00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:25,537
With me.
854
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,234
LACI:
This was 1950,
855
00:39:27,277 --> 00:39:28,888
almost 20 years
before Loving v. Virginia
856
00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:30,368
went to the Supreme Court.
857
00:39:30,411 --> 00:39:33,283
If the people in my Grandma's
neighborhood found out
858
00:39:33,327 --> 00:39:36,156
that a white man and a Black
woman were in a relationship,
859
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,507
it would've been her
who paid the price.
860
00:39:39,551 --> 00:39:41,248
NANCY:
But you didn't care.
861
00:39:41,291 --> 00:39:43,032
You still tried to alibi him.
862
00:39:43,076 --> 00:39:44,294
I knew he was innocent.
863
00:39:44,338 --> 00:39:45,818
I suspected it was
864
00:39:45,861 --> 00:39:47,036
the other night watchman
865
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,430
who stole the money box
866
00:39:49,474 --> 00:39:50,866
and murdered his colleague,
867
00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:53,434
pinned the crime on Joe.
868
00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:57,003
That same watchman
robbed another spot
869
00:39:57,046 --> 00:39:59,266
a few years later
and got caught.
870
00:39:59,309 --> 00:40:02,269
NANCY:
Either way,
you couldn't help Joe.
871
00:40:02,312 --> 00:40:06,491
He confessed to a crime
he didn't commit
872
00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:09,058
rather than
see anything happen to you.
873
00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:11,583
ACE:
He died thinking of you.
874
00:40:12,845 --> 00:40:16,109
Protecting the secret
you two had.
875
00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:20,156
It's why his ghost
wasn't able to move on.
876
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,899
I used to go to his grave
late at night,
877
00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:27,468
in a black mourning veil,
so no one would recognize me.
878
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:32,342
Just wish I could let him know,
879
00:40:32,386 --> 00:40:34,432
so his soul can rest.
880
00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:35,694
LACI:Grandma.
881
00:40:35,737 --> 00:40:38,000
I'm okay.
882
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:41,177
His sacrifice
883
00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:44,920
let me live my full life.
884
00:40:46,879 --> 00:40:48,750
[gasps]
885
00:40:56,845 --> 00:40:59,021
He knows now.
886
00:41:19,825 --> 00:41:21,914
You can feel good.
887
00:41:21,957 --> 00:41:23,611
You gave those
people some peace,
888
00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:26,266
and you caught
a serial killer.
889
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:28,703
Yeah.
890
00:41:28,747 --> 00:41:31,184
It's just that he s...
891
00:41:31,227 --> 00:41:34,143
said something to me.
892
00:41:36,145 --> 00:41:38,713
TROTT:
I'm a part of something
much bigger.
893
00:41:38,757 --> 00:41:41,629
You'll never understand.
894
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:46,068
Do you ever feel like a mystery
isn't quite solved?
895
00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:50,072
Captioning sponsored by
CBS
896
00:41:50,116 --> 00:41:51,552
Captioned by
Media Access Group at WGBH
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897
00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:17,578
[woman screams, bell dings]
898
00:42:17,622 --> 00:42:19,580
[pencil scribbling]
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