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>> NARRATOR: Their name is
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synonymous with evil.
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>> ALL: Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
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Sieg Heil!
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>> NARRATOR: They instill fear
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and hatred wherever they go.
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>> MAN: Burn, Jew boy, burn!
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>> MAN 2: You will return this
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country or you will be hanging.
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>> NARRATOR: And their hero is
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Adolf Hitler.
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>> DAVID GLETTY: Nazism is alive
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and well in the United States.
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>> NARRATOR: But just how
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powerful are America's
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neo-Nazis?
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>> JEFF SCHOEP: We have judges,
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we have police officers,
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military officers.
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>> NARRATOR: Where did they come
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from?
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>> ARTHUR GOLDWAG: There was a
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lot of sympathy in this country
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towards Nazi ideas before the
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war.
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>> NARRATOR: Who are their
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members?
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>> MARILYN MAYO: The vast
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majority of neo-Nazis are
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unaffiliated, and that's the
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group that you have to be
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concerned about.
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>> NARRATOR: And what is their
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secret agenda?
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>> PETE SIMI: They're all in it
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for the same reason.
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The fact that the white race is
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on the verge of extinction.
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>> T.J. LEYDEN: They're gonna do
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whatever it takes.
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If it took another holocaust...
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they would do it in a heartbeat.
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>> NARRATOR: There are those who
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believe in the existence of a
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book.
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A book that contains the most
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highly guarded secrets of the
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the United States of America.
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A book whose very existence is
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known to only a select few.
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But if such a book exists,
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what would it contain?
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Secret histories?
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Secret plans?
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Secret lies?
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Does there really exist...
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America's Book of Secrets?
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Oak Creek, Wisconsin,
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August 5, 2012.
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(camera clicking)
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Shortly after 10:00 a.m., a lone
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white male pulls into the
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parking lot of a Sikh temple at
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the start of Sunday service.
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>> AMARDEEP KALEKA: He came out
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of his truck, and he approached
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two priests who were in the
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parking lot.
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(gunshots)
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And he shot both of them...
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and then immediately proceeded
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inside, into the temple, and
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opened fire.
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(gunshots)
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(gunshots)
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(dial tone)
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(gunshots, distant voices)
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>> NARRATOR: Over two dozen
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worshippers run for cover in a
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deadly game of hide-and-seek, as
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the shooter methodically moves
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from room to room...
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(gunshots)
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...victim to victim.
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>> SATPAL KALEKA: Kids came
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inside.
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They said there's somebody
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shooting.
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(gunshots)
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Then I said, "Let's go.
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Run, run, run to the pantry."
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Like this.
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I said, "Let's go, go, go
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inside."
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Like 12, 13 people, we came
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inside.
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(gunshots, screaming)
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And shooter came here.
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He starts shooting.
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He shoots there.
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We pulled this door.
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So, we all stayed here.
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>> NARRATOR: Temple founder
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Satwant Singh Kaleka takes
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refuge with others in a
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back room of the building,
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and calls 911.
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>> AMARDEEP KALEKA: My father
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was safe in a room.
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He decided to open the door and
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let somebody else in, against
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the wishes of other people.
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>> NARRATOR: Hearing the
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commotion, the shooter moves in.
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>> AMARDEEP KALEKA: And he kicks
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the door in and opens fire on
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all four people.
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(gunshots)
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>> NARRATOR: Satwant Singh
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Kaleka is fatally injured while
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trying to attack the gunman with
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a butter knife.
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As the gunman calmly exits the
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building, he encounters
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Lieutenant Brian Murphy
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arriving on scene.
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(gunshots)
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He shoots the officer in the
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throat, and then proceeds to
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fire 14 more rounds into him at
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close range.
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(siren wails)
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>> SAM LENDA: 4562.
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I thought I heard shots.
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You confirm that?
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>> NARRATOR: Officer Sam Lenda
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arrives moments later.
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>> LENDA: I observed the subject
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walking in a westerly direction,
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and then I realized he had a gun
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in his hand and he was firing.
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He has a gun!
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Hey, get over here!
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He has a gun!
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And I engaged him in gunfire.
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(gunshot)
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Then the subject went down.
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>> NARRATOR: With a crippling
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gunshot wound to his chest, the
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shooter raises his gun to his
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head and ends his own life.
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(gunshot)
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(sirens wail)
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In all, seven people are dead
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and three critically injured.
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An entire community is
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traumatized.
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But what motivated the massacre?
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A cryptic tattoo of the number
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14 inked on the suspect's
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shoulder provides a vital clue.
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It helps the FBI to identify the
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shooter as Wade Michael Page,
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a white supremacist and musician
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in a Nazi-inspired rock band.
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>> MAYO: When people have "14"
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tattooed on their body, it's
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instantly recognizable by other
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white supremacists.
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>> JAMES SANTELLE: The 14 words
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plainly encapsulate the notion
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of hatred and the promotion of
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the white race.
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>> ALL: Sieg Heil!
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Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
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(rhythmic snare drums play)
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>> MARTIN MORGAN: Adolf Hitler
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left the world with a very
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detailed political manifesto
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in the form of his book,
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Mein Kampf.
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In chapter eight, he has a
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subsection that ultimately
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becomes quoted time and time
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again.
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And those 14 words were, "We
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must secure the existence of our
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people and a future for white
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children."
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Those 14 words became
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effectively the mission
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statement for white supremacy in
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the United States.
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>> NARRATOR: Mein Kampf?
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Adolf Hitler?
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Could it be that the man
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responsible for the deaths of
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millions in the the 1930s and
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'40s could serve as an
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inspiration?
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And in the 21st century?
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>> SIMI: A core part of the
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neo-Nazi identity is this idea
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of being this noble warrior.
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One of the things that we can
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expect was probably going
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through his head was the idea
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that he would be a martyr for
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the movement.
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>> LEYDEN: If I could try to get
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into Wade Michael Page's mind,
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what I could think was going on:
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He decided, "I'm gonna go out
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like a berserker.
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I'm gonna whack people, and then
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I'm gonna get killed.
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I'll end up in Valhalla, where
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I can go to Asgard."
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Which is the hall where you
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drink mead and you fight and
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die.
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And if you die, you get
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resurrected the next day and you
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do it all over again.
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>> NARRATOR: Page was a U.S.
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Army veteran who had left the
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service with a
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less-than-honorable discharge
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in 1998.
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He spent the next ten years
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working at various jobs, but
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devoted more and more of his
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time to playing music in a
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variety of neo-Nazi rock bands.
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But according to those who knew
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him, Page credited many of his
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racist beliefs to his
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experiences while serving in
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the Army.
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>> SIMI: During the time that I
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spent with Page, what, uh, he
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had reported to me was that, uh,
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he became indoctrinated in
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neo-Nazism really during his
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time in the military.
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He told me that if you don't go
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in the military as a racist,
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you're sure to leave as one.
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>> MARK POTOK: The fact is, Wade
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Page went into the military and
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wound up being assigned to Fort
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Bragg in 1995 and '96.
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That was precisely the moment
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when a huge den of real-life
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neo-Nazis was found inside
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Fort Bragg.
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There was a gigantic scandal
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because three of them murdered a
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black couple.
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This was a time when there were
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literally Nazi flags inside the
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barracks where these guys were
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handing out neo-Nazi literature.
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>> NARRATOR: Neo-Nazis taking
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root in the U.S. military?
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But how?
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And why?
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>> LEYDEN: The reason I joined
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the United States Marine Corps
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is I believed the Marines were
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the best, and I wanted to learn
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those combat skills, so when I
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came out of the military, I
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could train people for eventual
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war against the United States
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government, to use military
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tactics and military skills to
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one day destroy the federal
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government.
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I had "skinhead" down the back
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of my arms.
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I had Nazi SS bolts that were
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tattooed two inches high on my
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neck.
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I walked around Sieg Heil-ing.
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I had a swastika flag that flew
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on my wall locker.
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And down in the beer garden, I
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used to go down there and put my
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swastika flag up and have other
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skinheads and neo-Nazis there,
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and we'd drink openly in front
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of everybody.
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So the military knew.
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>> NARRATOR: Is the demand for
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so-called "political
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correctness" forcing officials
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in the U.S. military to turn a
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blind eye to the activities of
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this and other notorious hate
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groups?
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Two facts are certain: there
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are nearly 200 neo-Nazi groups
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currently operating in the
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United States, and they are
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strongly allied to a loose
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network of numerous other white
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and Aryan power hate groups.
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>> SIMI: Members of the white
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power movement and neo-Nazis
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are both allies and enemies.
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There's a strong sense of being
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in the movement together,
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working together, because
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they're all in it for the same
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reason, which is to promote the
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white race and to do something
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about the fact that the white
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race is on the verge of
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extinction.
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>> ERIC HICKEY: Hate is
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something that you could
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almost taste.
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Hate is dangerous when we
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operationalize it, when we put
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it into action.
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Hitler hated Jews and wanted to
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destroy them and was very
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successful in killing almost a
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third of the world's population
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of Jews.
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>> MAYO: The vast majority of
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neo-Nazis are unaffiliated, and
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that's the group that you really
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have to be most concerned about.
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>> LEYDEN: A leaderless
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resistance is a tactic that's
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used by people inside the
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movement to make sure that once
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a group gets to a certain size,
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you break off into different
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cells.
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There's an adage that three can
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keep a secret as long as two are
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dead.
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So if you keep your cells small
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enough, you can control
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everybody.
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>> NARRATOR: Although the U.S.
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government covertly monitors
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American Nazis and maintains
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files on them, their racist
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beliefs and recruitment
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activities are not illegal.
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>> MAN: Burn, Jew boy, burn!
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>> NARRATOR: But how and when
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did Nazi ideology originally
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take root in America?
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And just how prepared are we to
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combat another deadly attack
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like the one in Wisconsin?
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(gunshots)
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>>
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>> NARRATOR: When Adolf Hitler
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and his National Socialist party
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rose to power in the 1930s, few
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knew of the horrors that lay
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ahead.
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Germany had been nearly
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bankrupted after World War I,
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and high unemployment, coupled
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with runaway inflation, left
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most Germans starving.
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Although Hitler's rhetoric often
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blamed the people's woes on the
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Jews, the world turned a blind
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eye and a deaf ear.
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>> MORGAN: The National
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Socialist movement that swept
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through Germany beginning in the
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1920s was not simply isolated
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to Europe.
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And there were those, even in
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the United States, even in the
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land of the free and the home of
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the brave, that believed in the
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ideas of Nazism.
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>> NARRATOR: Among those
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believers was an enigmatic
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Hollywood screenwriter and
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mystic named William Dudley
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Pelley.
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>> MITCH HOROWITZ: In January
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of 1933, when Hitler rose to the
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Chancellery in Germany, Pelley
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looked upon the figure of
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Hitler and determined that he
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wanted to remake himself into a
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kind of American National
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Socialist leader.
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>> NARRATOR: Impressed with
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Hitler's Aryan-oriented
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political philosophy and rabidly
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anti-Communist stance, Pelley
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formed what he called "the
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Silver Legion" and modeled the
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group after the Nazi Brown
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Shirts.
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>> HOROWITZ: Pelley instructed
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his members to dress in
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paramilitary garb, to carry
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weapons with them.
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The Silver Shirts had about
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15,000 members, which is not an
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inconsiderable number of people.
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The real fear that the federal
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government had was that those
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15,000 members could serve as a
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kind of fifth column during the
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Second World War.
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So the government went after
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Pelley on charges of sedition,
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and he was actually sent to jail
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for the duration of the Second
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World War.
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>> NARRATOR: But the
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imprisonment of Pelley did not
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stop the rise of Nazis in
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America.
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In 1936, the German American
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Bund was created.
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Led by a German-born American
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citizen by the name of Fritz
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Kuhn, the Bund claimed to merge
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American and German National
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Socialist interests into one
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ideology.
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It was also secretly supported
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by Hitler's Deputy Fuhrer,
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Rudolf Hess.
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(drumming)
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>> MORGAN: Picture it if you
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will, Madison Square Garden,
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New York City, February 20,
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1939.
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20,000 followers of Nazism
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gathered under that roof for
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that one night to listen to a
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message from Fritz Kuhn.
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Fritz Kuhn stood up and echoed
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all of the sentiments that were
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expressed by Adolf Hitler in his
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political speeches.
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>> NARRATOR: During the war,
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American Nazis went underground,
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fearful of reprisals and
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persecution.
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But after Hitler's defeat in
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1945, the U.S. began to fear an
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even greater threat from its
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former ally, the Soviet Union.
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>> JOHN LOFTUS: The American
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politicians really thought that
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we would have to fight Russia.
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And they had no intelligence on
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Russia.
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>> TIMOTHY NAFTALI: What happens
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as the Cold War gets colder is
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that efforts shift from trying
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to track down criminals of the
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last war to finding German
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intelligence officers who can
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provide political and military
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information about the next move,
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and they are not that interested
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in the backgrounds of these
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German intelligence officers.
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There was a competition between
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the Soviets and the Americans
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over who could acquire more
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German military technology.
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This led to what was known as
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Operation Paperclip, and some of
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the unrepentant Nazis who found
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their way to the United States
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came as a result of the
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knowledge they had of Nazi
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technology.
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>> LOFTUS: There were a lot of
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Germans who just wanted to save
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their skin, and if they were
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tried for what they had really
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done during World War II, they
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would be listed as war
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criminals.
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>> MORGAN: President Truman had
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a ruling that no former Nazis
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that were deeply involved in the
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political ideology of National
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Socialism could be recruited
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through Operation Paperclip, and
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the way that the government
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responded to that was we simply
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created ulterior identities to
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some of the worst offenders.
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>> NAFTALI: The most famous are
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Arthur Rudolph and Wernher von
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Braun, who both played roles
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ultimately in unprecedented
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developments in military
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technology.
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>> VON BRAUN: I myself and
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everybody you see here have
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decided to go West.
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>> NARRATOR: Wernher Von Braun
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had been the former technical
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director of the Peenemunde
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Rocket Research Center, the
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development site of the V-2
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rocket that devastated London.
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But after the war, the U.S.
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government hired him to further
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develop that technology for use
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on a new frontier.
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>> MORGAN: He began working for
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NASA, and was central in the
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development of the Pershing
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missile and the Saturn V rocket.
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>> JOHN F. KENNEDY: We choose to
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go to the moon in this decade
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and do the other things, not
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because they are easy, but
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because they are hard.
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>> MORGAN: The American nation
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needed every tool in the toolbox
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to be able to fight off
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Communism.
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We needed every level of
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expertise.
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We needed every new weapon.
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And we had to turn to our former
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Nazi enemies and bring them to
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the United States to help us
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compete against the Soviets
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during the Cold War.
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In the chapter about Nazis in
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America's Book of Secrets,
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there would have to be some text
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indicating that the United
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States government embraced
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Nazis.
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And that the United States
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government also covered up the
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way that we embraced Nazis.
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>> LOFTUS: They routinely were
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deleting all documents showing
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that the government had assisted
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their entry.
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And I caught them at it.
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>> NARRATOR: The government's
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secret scheme to bring German
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scientists to the U.S. was
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exposed in 1982, nearly four
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decades after the war.
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Former Office of Special
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Investigations attorney, John
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Loftus, appeared on national
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television to reveal that
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intelligence officials had not
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only secretly smuggled some of
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the most notorious war criminals
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to America, but also that the
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Department of Justice had
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provided them with safe haven
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from prosecution.
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>> LOFTUS: Officially, my
577
00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:15,285
mission was to find where there
578
00:19:15,288 --> 00:19:17,558
might be Nazis hiding in
579
00:19:17,557 --> 00:19:19,427
America, but I had a secret
580
00:19:19,426 --> 00:19:20,656
mission.
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On the sly, my job was to try
582
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and find out who had protected
583
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Nazi war criminals after
584
00:19:28,368 --> 00:19:30,368
World War II.
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>> NARRATOR: After searching
586
00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:33,372
through hidden intelligence
587
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files, Loftus claimed to have
588
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found proof that linked upper
589
00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:39,453
level U.S. officials to expunged
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Nazi war criminal records.
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He even asserted that the paper
592
00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:45,293
trail went all the way up
593
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to the office of OSS Chief
594
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Allen Dulles.
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>> LOFTUS: The assistant
596
00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:52,457
attorney general told me, "I
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don't want to hear this stuff
598
00:19:53,993 --> 00:19:55,403
you're telling me."
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And, uh, I sort of became
600
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notorious with the intelligence
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community.
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00:19:59,332 --> 00:20:00,872
The Justice Department was asked
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00:20:00,867 --> 00:20:02,297
by Congress to do the right
604
00:20:02,302 --> 00:20:03,602
thing, and the Justice
605
00:20:03,603 --> 00:20:05,673
Department betrayed Congress.
606
00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:06,972
They betrayed the American
607
00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:10,343
people, and they continued
608
00:20:10,343 --> 00:20:12,853
the... the Nazi cover-up.
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00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:15,845
I knew that my agency simply
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00:20:15,848 --> 00:20:17,348
would not participate in any
611
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:19,490
hunt for Nazis that would expose
612
00:20:19,486 --> 00:20:22,286
American politicians, so I quit
613
00:20:22,289 --> 00:20:23,489
the Justice Department in
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disgust, and testified before
615
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Congress as a whistleblower.
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>> NARRATOR: Did the American
617
00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:34,374
government's efforts to get Nazi
618
00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:36,497
intelligence after the war
619
00:20:36,503 --> 00:20:38,773
really sow the seeds for the
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white supremacy hate groups we
621
00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:42,643
see today?
622
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>> Sieg Heil!
623
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Sieg Heil!
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Sieg Heil!
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>> NARRATOR: Coming up...
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>> NARRATOR: America in the
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1950s was in the midst of an
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economic boom.
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It was the age of split-level
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houses, television and the
631
00:21:05,332 --> 00:21:07,832
station wagon.
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00:21:07,834 --> 00:21:09,604
And World War II was in the
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rearview mirror.
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00:21:11,604 --> 00:21:13,344
Americans were now brimming with
635
00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:15,480
confidence, and there were
636
00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:17,475
hopeful signs that opportunities
637
00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:18,977
would soon be available for
638
00:21:18,978 --> 00:21:21,008
those to whom the American dream
639
00:21:21,013 --> 00:21:23,583
had been off-limits.
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00:21:25,852 --> 00:21:27,492
But not everyone was happy to
641
00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:28,557
embrace the more
642
00:21:28,555 --> 00:21:29,615
socially-progressive attitude
643
00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:30,692
that was being extended to
644
00:21:30,723 --> 00:21:32,733
racial minorities.
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>> MORGAN: There were a number
646
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of people that felt deeply
647
00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:37,728
threatened.
648
00:21:37,730 --> 00:21:39,730
They felt deeply threatened by
649
00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,372
the idea of equality.
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00:21:41,368 --> 00:21:43,038
There were those that embraced
651
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:46,035
the ideas associated with Nazi
652
00:21:46,038 --> 00:21:48,338
eugenics all over again.
653
00:21:48,341 --> 00:21:50,041
The idea that white people were
654
00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:51,482
born to lead and non-white
655
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people were born to follow.
656
00:21:54,113 --> 00:21:56,453
As insidious and as hateful as
657
00:21:56,449 --> 00:21:58,049
that certainly sounds, there
658
00:21:58,050 --> 00:21:59,750
were enough people in the United
659
00:21:59,752 --> 00:22:03,022
States that believed in Nazi
660
00:22:03,022 --> 00:22:06,532
race policy.
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00:22:06,526 --> 00:22:07,526
>> NARRATOR: Enter George
662
00:22:07,527 --> 00:22:10,057
Lincoln Rockwell, a former Navy
663
00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:11,902
commander who maintained that
664
00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:13,668
the U.S. had fought on the wrong
665
00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:15,896
side in World War II.
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00:22:15,902 --> 00:22:17,902
He believed that racial
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00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:19,944
integration went hand-in-hand
668
00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:23,079
with Communism, and that both
669
00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:27,405
were being propagated by Jews.
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In March 1959, Rockwell founded
671
00:22:30,783 --> 00:22:32,423
the World Union of Free
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00:22:32,419 --> 00:22:35,389
Enterprise National Socialists--
673
00:22:35,388 --> 00:22:37,818
changed later that year to the
674
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American Nazi Party.
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>> ROCKWELL: I use the uniform
676
00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:44,029
to agitate.
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00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:45,570
When Martin Luther Coon is out
678
00:22:45,565 --> 00:22:46,925
in the streets agitating, why,
679
00:22:46,933 --> 00:22:49,103
I agitate back.
680
00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:50,901
And the uniform is very good for
681
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agitating.
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00:22:52,939 --> 00:22:54,939
>> POTOK: Rockwell would take
683
00:22:54,941 --> 00:22:56,541
his Nazi-uniformed storm
684
00:22:56,543 --> 00:22:58,413
troopers, as he called them,
685
00:22:58,411 --> 00:22:59,811
and march up and down the
686
00:22:59,846 --> 00:23:01,846
Washington mall.
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00:23:01,848 --> 00:23:04,178
Rockwell did a lot to put
688
00:23:04,183 --> 00:23:06,953
forward the idea that Nazism was
689
00:23:06,953 --> 00:23:09,593
still somehow viable, despite
690
00:23:09,589 --> 00:23:11,559
the fact that millions and
691
00:23:11,558 --> 00:23:13,088
millions of American men had
692
00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:15,192
fought against Nazism a mere few
693
00:23:15,194 --> 00:23:17,704
years before.
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00:23:17,697 --> 00:23:18,827
>> NARRATOR: George Lincoln
695
00:23:18,831 --> 00:23:20,731
Rockwell sparked a public
696
00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:23,143
crusade to purify America of all
697
00:23:23,135 --> 00:23:26,735
non-whites.
698
00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:30,579
It ended on August 6, 1967, when
699
00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:32,607
a disgruntled follower shot him
700
00:23:32,612 --> 00:23:33,812
outside of an Arlington,
701
00:23:33,813 --> 00:23:36,753
Virginia Laundromat.
702
00:23:38,985 --> 00:23:41,585
But although Rockwell was dead,
703
00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:43,118
did his death only serve to
704
00:23:43,122 --> 00:23:44,722
inspire and motivate others
705
00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:46,757
like him?
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00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:48,759
>> LEYDEN: If you look at inside
707
00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,161
the white power movement from
708
00:23:50,162 --> 00:23:51,632
when George Lincoln Rockwell
709
00:23:51,631 --> 00:23:52,771
created the American Nazi Party,
710
00:23:52,765 --> 00:23:53,765
you have offshoots.
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00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:54,996
You have the National Socialist
712
00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:56,001
Movement.
713
00:23:56,002 --> 00:23:57,642
You have the National Alliance,
714
00:23:57,637 --> 00:23:59,137
the White Aryan Resistance, and
715
00:23:59,138 --> 00:24:00,908
you end up with neo-Nazi
716
00:24:00,907 --> 00:24:02,167
skinheads.
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00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:03,184
>> Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
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00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:04,235
>> LEYDEN: They're all part of
719
00:24:04,243 --> 00:24:05,243
the same cog.
720
00:24:05,244 --> 00:24:06,254
They're all part of the same
721
00:24:06,245 --> 00:24:07,245
machine.
722
00:24:07,246 --> 00:24:08,776
They're all driving to create a
723
00:24:08,781 --> 00:24:13,121
white-only America.
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00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,589
>> NARRATOR: In 1974, the
725
00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:17,658
National Alliance was created by
726
00:24:17,657 --> 00:24:19,727
Dr. William Luther Pierce, a
727
00:24:19,726 --> 00:24:22,156
one-time loyal associate of
728
00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:24,201
Rockwell's.
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00:24:24,196 --> 00:24:25,196
>> SIMI: William Pierce spent
730
00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:27,197
some time as a faculty member in
731
00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:28,639
Oregon State University, and
732
00:24:28,635 --> 00:24:31,595
then left a life of academia to
733
00:24:31,604 --> 00:24:34,044
pursue his true passion,
734
00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:37,743
which was neo-Nazi propaganda.
735
00:24:37,744 --> 00:24:40,154
>> NARRATOR: Pierce would soon
736
00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:42,046
be known as the secret creator
737
00:24:42,048 --> 00:24:43,548
of one of the most dangerous
738
00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:44,880
tools in the arsenal of the
739
00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:46,154
white supremacist.
740
00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,822
A tool that continues to incite
741
00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:50,691
violence and murder, even to
742
00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:54,660
this day-- The Turner Diaries.
743
00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:02,897
Oklahoma City, April 19, 1995.
744
00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:08,111
At 9:02 a.m., a homemade bomb
745
00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:10,077
hidden inside a rental truck
746
00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:12,236
blows up the Alfred P. Murrah
747
00:25:12,244 --> 00:25:14,084
Federal Building.
748
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,720
(loud explosion)
749
00:25:16,716 --> 00:25:18,786
(siren blaring)
750
00:25:18,785 --> 00:25:22,685
168 people lose their lives...
751
00:25:22,689 --> 00:25:25,189
including 19 children.
752
00:25:25,191 --> 00:25:28,761
800 more are seriously injured.
753
00:25:31,097 --> 00:25:33,697
When police arrest 27-year-old
754
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:35,570
Timothy McVeigh just hours
755
00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:37,338
later on an unrelated charge,
756
00:25:37,336 --> 00:25:39,736
they find copies of pages from
757
00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:41,869
The Turner Diaries in his
758
00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:44,144
vehicle.
759
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,880
>> POTOK: The Turner Diaries has
760
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:51,282
been called the bible of the
761
00:25:51,283 --> 00:25:52,623
radical right in the United
762
00:25:52,619 --> 00:25:53,889
States, because this book has
763
00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:55,986
been incredibly important, uh,
764
00:25:55,988 --> 00:25:58,788
in terms of inspiring mass
765
00:25:58,825 --> 00:26:00,985
murders.
766
00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:02,633
>> MORGAN: The Turner Diaries
767
00:26:02,629 --> 00:26:03,959
are written from the far-off
768
00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:05,633
distant future looking back at
769
00:26:05,632 --> 00:26:08,702
a time when the future for the
770
00:26:08,701 --> 00:26:10,241
white race in America was
771
00:26:10,236 --> 00:26:11,296
secured by a number of
772
00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:12,613
individuals that took the law
773
00:26:12,605 --> 00:26:13,735
into their own hands.
774
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:15,640
Harkening back to Adolf Hitler's
775
00:26:15,642 --> 00:26:17,782
Mein Kampf, it is a message
776
00:26:17,777 --> 00:26:19,877
that says white people must
777
00:26:19,879 --> 00:26:21,909
become extremely aggressive in
778
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,724
securing the future of the
779
00:26:23,716 --> 00:26:24,846
nation.
780
00:26:24,851 --> 00:26:27,151
>> LEYDEN: And in that book, a
781
00:26:27,153 --> 00:26:28,993
federal building gets blown up.
782
00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:30,758
I believe Timothy McVeigh
783
00:26:30,757 --> 00:26:32,287
designed a bomb to go off at
784
00:26:32,291 --> 00:26:33,931
that exact time in The Turner
785
00:26:33,926 --> 00:26:35,326
Diaries.
786
00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:36,657
Oklahoma is seen as the first
787
00:26:36,663 --> 00:26:39,203
shot, like, uh, the shot heard
788
00:26:39,198 --> 00:26:40,328
round the world in Concord and
789
00:26:40,332 --> 00:26:42,642
Lexington.
790
00:26:42,635 --> 00:26:44,165
>> NARRATOR: Although he was not
791
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:45,940
known to be a member of William
792
00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:47,308
Pierce's National Alliance,
793
00:26:47,306 --> 00:26:49,676
McVeigh was sympathetic to much
794
00:26:49,676 --> 00:26:51,676
of its virulent anti-government
795
00:26:51,678 --> 00:26:52,908
rhetoric.
796
00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:54,682
>> POTOK: So, clearly, he had at
797
00:26:54,681 --> 00:26:56,651
least some ideas, uh, very much
798
00:26:56,649 --> 00:26:57,749
in common with the neo-Nazi
799
00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:00,790
movement.
800
00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:02,087
>> LEYDEN: You know, that book
801
00:27:02,088 --> 00:27:04,188
is still out there, and people
802
00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:05,290
are still reading it.
803
00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:08,191
And there may be another Timothy
804
00:27:08,194 --> 00:27:09,334
McVeigh in the United States
805
00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:10,358
Army right now who just learned
806
00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:11,362
how to do explosives...
807
00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:12,363
>> SOLDIER: Load, load, load,
808
00:27:12,364 --> 00:27:13,374
load, load.
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00:27:13,365 --> 00:27:14,365
>> LEYDEN: ...and it's all
810
00:27:14,366 --> 00:27:18,036
because of what Dr. Pierce did.
811
00:27:18,037 --> 00:27:19,337
>> NARRATOR: Is the American
812
00:27:19,338 --> 00:27:21,238
government doing all it can to
813
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,980
combat homegrown terrorist
814
00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,835
groups?
815
00:27:24,844 --> 00:27:26,084
Or is it the government's very
816
00:27:26,078 --> 00:27:27,908
efforts to fight terrorism that
817
00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:30,224
motivates more angry outcasts
818
00:27:30,249 --> 00:27:33,219
like Timothy McVeigh?
819
00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:35,959
>> GLETTY: I get scared for
820
00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:37,855
America because there is the
821
00:27:37,857 --> 00:27:39,257
person that's going to finally
822
00:27:39,258 --> 00:27:40,928
stand up and go, "You know what,
823
00:27:40,927 --> 00:27:42,057
I don't care."
824
00:27:42,061 --> 00:27:43,231
They're gonna go out and do
825
00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:44,259
something 'cause they have the
826
00:27:44,263 --> 00:27:46,233
know-how...
827
00:27:46,232 --> 00:27:49,242
they have the skills...
828
00:27:49,235 --> 00:27:50,835
and they have the materials
829
00:27:50,837 --> 00:27:52,237
needed to do something like
830
00:27:52,271 --> 00:27:54,271
that.
831
00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:56,283
>> NARRATOR: But how is the
832
00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:57,935
government monitoring American
833
00:27:57,944 --> 00:27:59,384
Nazis?
834
00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:01,248
And what other secret methods do
835
00:28:01,247 --> 00:28:04,347
American Nazis use to recruit
836
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:07,950
and train their members?
837
00:28:07,954 --> 00:28:16,864
Coming up:
838
00:28:16,863 --> 00:28:18,103
*
839
00:28:18,097 --> 00:28:19,127
(cheering)
840
00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:20,131
(men shout)
841
00:28:20,132 --> 00:28:22,132
*
842
00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:27,338
>> NARRATOR: Each year, all
843
00:28:27,339 --> 00:28:29,279
around the U.S., thousands of
844
00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:31,105
young men and women converge at
845
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:33,210
underground concerts and listen
846
00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:35,112
to a new subgenre of heavy
847
00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:37,254
metal music called hate rock.
848
00:28:37,249 --> 00:28:39,889
*
849
00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:41,516
But unlike other so-called "hard
850
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,290
rock," this music is political.
851
00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:47,130
It is intended to stir up
852
00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:49,026
racism...
853
00:28:49,028 --> 00:28:51,258
incite hatred...
854
00:28:51,263 --> 00:28:54,373
and even violence.
855
00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:55,526
It has become a powerful
856
00:28:55,534 --> 00:28:57,144
recruitment tool for America's
857
00:28:57,169 --> 00:29:00,139
current generation of neo-Nazis.
858
00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:02,139
>> GLETTY: You can't just buy
859
00:29:02,141 --> 00:29:03,141
a ticket.
860
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:04,142
You have to be invited by
861
00:29:04,143 --> 00:29:05,183
leaders, and you have to be
862
00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:06,147
approved.
863
00:29:06,178 --> 00:29:10,148
Not just anyone can show up.
864
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,079
(whooping, cheering)
865
00:29:14,186 --> 00:29:15,856
>> NARRATOR: In fact,
866
00:29:15,855 --> 00:29:17,155
propagating their message
867
00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:18,786
through music, not to mention
868
00:29:18,791 --> 00:29:20,161
raking in the money it
869
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:22,159
generates, has become so
870
00:29:22,161 --> 00:29:23,331
important to the National
871
00:29:23,329 --> 00:29:25,929
Socialist Movement party that it
872
00:29:25,932 --> 00:29:27,302
even has its own record label,
873
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:30,273
NSM88.
874
00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,269
>> SCHOEP: The National
875
00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:33,911
Socialist Movement is a white
876
00:29:33,906 --> 00:29:35,206
civil rights organization.
877
00:29:35,207 --> 00:29:36,207
>> MAN: He's fighting for the
878
00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:37,208
future of his white children and
879
00:29:37,209 --> 00:29:38,539
your white children and my white
880
00:29:38,544 --> 00:29:39,884
children, and that's what it's
881
00:29:39,879 --> 00:29:40,879
all about.
882
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880
(camera clicks)
883
00:29:41,881 --> 00:29:42,881
>> SCHOEP: We're a continuation
884
00:29:42,882 --> 00:29:43,882
of the movement of Commander
885
00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:44,923
George Lincoln Rockwell and the
886
00:29:44,951 --> 00:29:48,491
original American Nazi party.
887
00:29:48,487 --> 00:29:50,817
Through the music, we can reach
888
00:29:50,823 --> 00:29:51,963
the minds of the youth and the
889
00:29:51,958 --> 00:29:53,358
young people in this country.
890
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:54,889
And through the political
891
00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:56,234
message in the music, we can
892
00:29:56,228 --> 00:29:57,928
open up the eyes and ears of a
893
00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:00,100
whole new generation.
894
00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:01,099
>> MAN: That's old-school
895
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,370
skinhead white power for you.
896
00:30:02,368 --> 00:30:03,368
(cheering)
897
00:30:03,369 --> 00:30:04,969
>> MAN 2: Yeah!
898
00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:06,971
>> SCHOEP: We're told that you
899
00:30:06,973 --> 00:30:08,573
can wear a black power shirt or
900
00:30:08,574 --> 00:30:10,914
a black pride shirt or Mexican
901
00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:12,850
pride or brown pride, and this
902
00:30:12,845 --> 00:30:14,245
is okay in the United States.
903
00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:16,216
But the moment you say "white
904
00:30:16,215 --> 00:30:19,045
pride," you're deemed a racist
905
00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:20,851
or a bigot.
906
00:30:20,853 --> 00:30:23,393
So, our goal is bringing our
907
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:24,959
cause into the mainstream and
908
00:30:24,957 --> 00:30:26,227
giving white people a voice.
909
00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:27,225
>> MAN: Black power!
910
00:30:27,226 --> 00:30:28,226
>> OTHERS: Black power!
911
00:30:28,227 --> 00:30:29,227
>> MAN: Black power!
912
00:30:29,228 --> 00:30:30,228
>> MAN 2: Well, it just appalls
913
00:30:30,229 --> 00:30:31,599
me that there's people on this
914
00:30:31,597 --> 00:30:33,367
earth that are so hostile, so
915
00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:34,925
violent, and they are allowed to
916
00:30:34,934 --> 00:30:35,904
walk around the street
917
00:30:35,935 --> 00:30:37,935
like that.
918
00:30:37,937 --> 00:30:39,937
>> MAYO: They want to see
919
00:30:39,939 --> 00:30:41,239
a government in America that's
920
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,410
controlled by white people and
921
00:30:42,408 --> 00:30:43,608
is for white people.
922
00:30:43,609 --> 00:30:45,609
They want to undermine our
923
00:30:45,611 --> 00:30:48,011
democratic institutions and do
924
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,054
away with the civil rights that
925
00:30:49,081 --> 00:30:51,081
we all enjoy.
926
00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,093
>> NARRATOR: Although the rights
927
00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:55,115
of people, even Nazis, to gather
928
00:30:55,121 --> 00:30:56,261
and disseminate racist messages
929
00:30:56,255 --> 00:30:59,155
is protected under the First
930
00:30:59,158 --> 00:31:00,888
Amendment, the federal
931
00:31:00,893 --> 00:31:02,033
government and the Justice
932
00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:03,428
Department does regard American
933
00:31:03,429 --> 00:31:06,299
Nazis as a potential threat.
934
00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:10,104
Undercover civilian operative
935
00:31:10,102 --> 00:31:13,042
David Gletty spent four years
936
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,269
secretly networking his way into
937
00:31:15,274 --> 00:31:17,644
the NSM and other radical white
938
00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:20,913
power groups to help the FBI
939
00:31:20,913 --> 00:31:22,683
gather information about NSM's
940
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:26,451
possible criminal activities.
941
00:31:26,452 --> 00:31:27,552
>> GLETTY: It took us years of
942
00:31:27,553 --> 00:31:29,923
going to every backwoods little
943
00:31:29,922 --> 00:31:32,462
redneck party, every little Nazi
944
00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:34,558
rally, all over the country,
945
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,400
getting to know people.
946
00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:37,395
>> MAN: God, it's good to see
947
00:31:37,396 --> 00:31:38,396
you, man.
948
00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:39,397
(chuckles)
949
00:31:39,398 --> 00:31:40,528
That's my European brother.
950
00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:41,532
>> GLETTY: I was caught
951
00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:43,303
off-guard with how much hate
952
00:31:43,302 --> 00:31:44,472
they really had in their heart.
953
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:46,940
How much they really hated the
954
00:31:46,939 --> 00:31:48,439
other races besides the white
955
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,610
race.
956
00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:53,150
>> NARRATOR: By acting like he
957
00:31:53,145 --> 00:31:54,305
was sympathetic to the
958
00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:55,713
organization's beliefs, Gletty
959
00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:57,684
was able to become an insider.
960
00:31:57,683 --> 00:31:59,623
>> ALL: Sieg Heil!
961
00:31:59,618 --> 00:32:03,318
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
962
00:32:03,322 --> 00:32:06,032
>> NARRATOR: By 2005, he had
963
00:32:06,025 --> 00:32:08,025
befriended NSM commander Jeff
964
00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:09,957
Schoep.
965
00:32:09,962 --> 00:32:11,962
>> SCHOEP: Those who seek to
966
00:32:11,964 --> 00:32:14,234
destroy us, their day is coming.
967
00:32:14,233 --> 00:32:16,203
You cannot drive a system and a
968
00:32:16,202 --> 00:32:17,972
government in a country into the
969
00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:19,640
ground and take from the people
970
00:32:19,638 --> 00:32:21,338
forever.
971
00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,440
I hate what my enemies have done
972
00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:24,742
to my country.
973
00:32:24,743 --> 00:32:27,583
An American uprising is coming,
974
00:32:27,579 --> 00:32:30,049
due to the politicians' greed,
975
00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:33,349
corruption and treason against
976
00:32:33,352 --> 00:32:35,122
the American people!
977
00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:37,361
(applause)
978
00:32:37,356 --> 00:32:38,356
I hate what the Zionist
979
00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:39,387
Occupational Government has done
980
00:32:39,391 --> 00:32:40,391
to my country.
981
00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:41,392
>> MAN: What do we want?
982
00:32:41,393 --> 00:32:42,393
>> OTHERS: Jews out!
983
00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:43,404
>> MAN: When do we want it?
984
00:32:43,395 --> 00:32:44,395
>> OTHERS: Now!
985
00:32:44,396 --> 00:32:45,396
>> GLETTY: Every time I was
986
00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:46,397
around him, you know, always
987
00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:47,398
shook his hand, always spoke
988
00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:48,399
to me.
989
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,540
"David, hey, man, you're one of
990
00:32:49,535 --> 00:32:50,995
our up and coming members."
991
00:32:51,003 --> 00:32:52,503
And they let me be one of their
992
00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:54,614
media guys.
993
00:32:54,606 --> 00:32:57,136
So I was able to roll around at
994
00:32:57,143 --> 00:32:59,383
all these protests and parties
995
00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:00,678
and take people's pictures, but
996
00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:03,149
they didn't know that it was
997
00:33:03,149 --> 00:33:04,149
being used to put their
998
00:33:04,150 --> 00:33:05,780
pictures in the FBI's facial
999
00:33:05,784 --> 00:33:07,394
recognition program.
1000
00:33:07,386 --> 00:33:08,546
>> SCHOEP: David Gletty is a
1001
00:33:08,554 --> 00:33:10,164
snitch, and anything he has to
1002
00:33:10,156 --> 00:33:11,516
say is not credible.
1003
00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:12,693
I believe that he infiltrated
1004
00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:14,031
this organization for financial
1005
00:33:14,026 --> 00:33:16,556
gain and to write a book to
1006
00:33:16,562 --> 00:33:18,662
profit off of the organization.
1007
00:33:18,664 --> 00:33:20,674
If it's true that the federal
1008
00:33:20,666 --> 00:33:22,096
government paid David Gletty, it
1009
00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:23,571
was a waste of federal
1010
00:33:23,569 --> 00:33:25,769
taxpayers' dollars, a waste of
1011
00:33:25,771 --> 00:33:30,041
time and a ridiculous mission.
1012
00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:31,312
>> GLETTY: Sometimes we'd have
1013
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:32,440
to go to another state, and
1014
00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:34,454
you got six thugs in the back of
1015
00:33:34,446 --> 00:33:36,416
your SUV, and you're hearing
1016
00:33:36,415 --> 00:33:37,715
every type of hate speech and
1017
00:33:37,716 --> 00:33:39,286
you're hearing about all these
1018
00:33:39,285 --> 00:33:40,445
rapes of these young girls and
1019
00:33:40,452 --> 00:33:42,592
some people they had killed.
1020
00:33:42,588 --> 00:33:44,558
Overall, they love to drink,
1021
00:33:44,556 --> 00:33:46,056
they love to fight, they love to
1022
00:33:46,058 --> 00:33:47,188
do drugs.
1023
00:33:47,193 --> 00:33:49,163
They like to go to bars,
1024
00:33:49,161 --> 00:33:50,431
bar-hop, three or four bars, and
1025
00:33:50,429 --> 00:33:51,699
then beat a black guy down
1026
00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:52,827
'cause he's walking with a
1027
00:33:52,831 --> 00:33:53,831
white woman.
1028
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:56,272
It really wore on you sometimes.
1029
00:33:56,268 --> 00:33:57,468
I have some of these horrible
1030
00:33:57,469 --> 00:33:58,739
things that I've seen-- murders
1031
00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:00,607
and rapes and robberies--
1032
00:34:00,606 --> 00:34:02,206
playing over and over in my
1033
00:34:02,208 --> 00:34:03,538
head again.
1034
00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:04,542
>> Racists, go home!
1035
00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:06,553
Racists, go home!
1036
00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:07,605
>> NARRATOR: By getting inside
1037
00:34:07,613 --> 00:34:09,753
the organization, Gletty was
1038
00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:11,748
able to study NSM's various
1039
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:13,090
tactics.
1040
00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:14,685
One of these involved giving
1041
00:34:14,686 --> 00:34:16,486
racially charged speeches in
1042
00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,588
mixed neighborhoods in an effort
1043
00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:20,590
to incite violence.
1044
00:34:20,592 --> 00:34:23,102
>> How many of these Mexicans
1045
00:34:23,095 --> 00:34:24,555
have molested children on the
1046
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:26,103
streets?
1047
00:34:26,098 --> 00:34:27,468
How many of these illegals are
1048
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,766
coming over here and raping
1049
00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:29,767
white women?
1050
00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:30,768
>> Racists, go home!
1051
00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:32,239
Racists, go home!
1052
00:34:32,238 --> 00:34:33,468
Racists, go home!
1053
00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:34,642
>> You will return this country
1054
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,310
to a constitutional republic, or
1055
00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:40,649
you will be hanging!
1056
00:34:40,646 --> 00:34:42,776
>> NARRATOR: Toledo, Ohio.
1057
00:34:42,781 --> 00:34:46,251
October 15, 2005.
1058
00:34:46,252 --> 00:34:48,522
A neo-Nazi march in the city's
1059
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,520
north end turns violent.
1060
00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:52,522
>> GLETTY: They got these people
1061
00:34:52,524 --> 00:34:54,264
in such a uproar that they
1062
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:55,590
destroyed their own community.
1063
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:56,904
That's one of the things that
1064
00:34:56,895 --> 00:34:58,895
the Nazis of America want to do
1065
00:34:58,897 --> 00:35:01,197
is to show the cameras that,
1066
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,530
"Look, we're not the bad guys.
1067
00:35:02,534 --> 00:35:03,674
Look who's burning down their
1068
00:35:03,669 --> 00:35:05,499
own houses and flipping over
1069
00:35:05,504 --> 00:35:06,514
police cars."
1070
00:35:06,505 --> 00:35:07,635
>> Oh, what an unruly bunch of
1071
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:09,139
people you are.
1072
00:35:09,141 --> 00:35:10,811
>> GLETTY: "It's them, not us."
1073
00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:12,139
>> Oh, no, not the ambulance,
1074
00:35:12,144 --> 00:35:13,284
huh?
1075
00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:15,609
>> Yeah, not the ambulance!
1076
00:35:15,614 --> 00:35:16,624
>> NARRATOR: Information
1077
00:35:16,615 --> 00:35:18,545
provided by David Gletty greatly
1078
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:20,790
helped the FBI keep tabs on the
1079
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:22,546
National Socialist Movement.
1080
00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:24,524
But despite the government's
1081
00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:26,633
best efforts, the NSM remains
1082
00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:28,355
committed to its increasingly
1083
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,360
aggressive tactics.
1084
00:35:29,361 --> 00:35:31,401
>> White power!
1085
00:35:31,397 --> 00:35:32,397
>> SCHOEP: We're a frontline
1086
00:35:32,398 --> 00:35:33,568
organization.
1087
00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:34,825
We don't just talk about
1088
00:35:34,833 --> 00:35:35,833
the problems.
1089
00:35:35,834 --> 00:35:36,844
We don't just throw concerts.
1090
00:35:36,835 --> 00:35:37,835
We're taking the streets.
1091
00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:39,406
>> The streets of L.A.!
1092
00:35:39,405 --> 00:35:41,235
The streets of Detroit!
1093
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:42,840
The streets of Chicago!
1094
00:35:42,841 --> 00:35:44,181
>> SCHOEP: History has proven
1095
00:35:44,176 --> 00:35:45,376
that through the streets,
1096
00:35:45,377 --> 00:35:47,377
you achieve victory.
1097
00:35:47,379 --> 00:35:48,779
>> NARRATOR: But just how large
1098
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:51,650
is the NSM and its affiliated
1099
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:53,650
hate groups?
1100
00:35:53,652 --> 00:35:56,192
>> We are the NSM: the National
1101
00:35:56,188 --> 00:35:58,318
Socialist Movement.
1102
00:35:58,324 --> 00:35:59,594
>> NARRATOR: And is its message
1103
00:35:59,591 --> 00:36:01,861
spreading and growing larger?
1104
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:03,200
>> SCHOEP: The National
1105
00:36:03,195 --> 00:36:04,855
Socialist Movement grows and
1106
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:05,963
becomes more powerful each and
1107
00:36:05,964 --> 00:36:06,974
every year.
1108
00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:08,595
We need a radical change in this
1109
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,600
country, and the National
1110
00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:10,601
Socialist Movement is that
1111
00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:11,602
change.
1112
00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:13,343
>> NARRATOR: Is there really a
1113
00:36:13,339 --> 00:36:15,209
reason to fear American Nazis?
1114
00:36:15,207 --> 00:36:26,687
Coming up:
1115
00:36:26,685 --> 00:36:29,385
>> NARRATOR: High unemployment,
1116
00:36:29,388 --> 00:36:33,388
unchecked immigration, rising
1117
00:36:33,392 --> 00:36:35,832
food and fuel prices, and the
1118
00:36:35,827 --> 00:36:37,627
impositions of an increasingly
1119
00:36:37,629 --> 00:36:39,929
large federal government on
1120
00:36:39,931 --> 00:36:41,971
everything from energy use and
1121
00:36:41,967 --> 00:36:45,397
health care to gun control.
1122
00:36:45,404 --> 00:36:47,274
As far as American Nazis are
1123
00:36:47,273 --> 00:36:49,413
concerned, the combination
1124
00:36:49,408 --> 00:36:50,408
offers the perfect
1125
00:36:50,409 --> 00:36:51,409
ingredients...
1126
00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:52,380
>> White power!
1127
00:36:52,411 --> 00:36:54,451
>> NARRATOR: ...for recruitment.
1128
00:36:54,446 --> 00:36:56,446
>> LEYDEN: The hate switches,
1129
00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:57,978
and the hate changes.
1130
00:36:57,983 --> 00:36:59,853
They'll use whatever is popular
1131
00:36:59,851 --> 00:37:00,851
at the time.
1132
00:37:00,852 --> 00:37:02,452
They use whatever tools they can
1133
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:03,724
for propaganda to whatever makes
1134
00:37:03,722 --> 00:37:04,722
them win.
1135
00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:05,963
>> GOLDWAG: The Nazi groups
1136
00:37:05,957 --> 00:37:08,727
changed their targets.
1137
00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:10,557
They never take their eyes off
1138
00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:12,602
of the Jews and international
1139
00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:14,728
Zionism, but there was a lot
1140
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more concern about the
1141
00:37:16,435 --> 00:37:18,865
Communists in the '50s, about
1142
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:20,870
blacks in the '60s.
1143
00:37:20,872 --> 00:37:23,012
Nowadays, they're much more
1144
00:37:23,008 --> 00:37:25,308
concerned with immigrants.
1145
00:37:25,311 --> 00:37:27,481
(indistinct shouting)
1146
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>> What do we want?
1147
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,320
White power!
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00:37:31,317 --> 00:37:32,447
>> HICKEY: They fear losing
1149
00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:33,491
their jobs.
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00:37:33,485 --> 00:37:34,845
They fear change.
1151
00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:37,023
They fear other groups of people
1152
00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:39,022
coming in, pushing them out.
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00:37:39,024 --> 00:37:41,464
>> Racial harassment of white
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00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:42,760
people in north Toledo has to
1155
00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,761
stop.
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00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,003
>> SCHOEP: The U.S. government
1157
00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:47,827
has utterly failed in stemming
1158
00:37:47,833 --> 00:37:49,443
the tide of illegal immigration
1159
00:37:49,468 --> 00:37:51,498
into this nation.
1160
00:37:51,503 --> 00:37:53,513
That's why the National
1161
00:37:53,505 --> 00:37:55,505
Socialist Movement has been so
1162
00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:56,637
highly involved in the Southwest
1163
00:37:56,642 --> 00:37:58,982
with our border patrols.
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00:37:58,977 --> 00:38:00,747
>> LEYDEN: The white supremacy
1165
00:38:00,746 --> 00:38:02,306
movement sees themselves as a
1166
00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:04,054
minority already.
1167
00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:05,649
They see themselves as an
1168
00:38:05,651 --> 00:38:07,521
economic minority, and they see
1169
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:08,789
themselves as slowly losing the
1170
00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:09,787
war.
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00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:10,888
They see themselves as two
1172
00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:11,889
percent of the world's
1173
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:12,920
population.
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00:38:12,924 --> 00:38:14,494
And they believe now it's time
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00:38:14,493 --> 00:38:16,363
to strike and strike as hard as
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00:38:16,362 --> 00:38:17,632
they can before there's no
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whites left.
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>> AMARDEEP: They are looking
1179
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for people to blame, and if it's
1180
00:38:22,934 --> 00:38:23,944
not immigrants, it will be
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00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:24,935
women.
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00:38:24,936 --> 00:38:26,506
If it's not women, it's going to
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00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:27,505
be Catholics.
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00:38:27,506 --> 00:38:28,536
If it's not Catholics, they will
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00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:29,910
just go down the list and blame
1186
00:38:29,941 --> 00:38:33,081
everybody but themself.
1187
00:38:33,078 --> 00:38:35,078
>> NARRATOR: After nearly two
1188
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,750
decades in the white power
1189
00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:38,918
movement, T.J. Leyden, a
1190
00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:41,687
self-described "neo-Nazi street
1191
00:38:41,687 --> 00:38:44,557
soldier," saw that hate only
1192
00:38:44,556 --> 00:38:46,086
leads to a never-ending cycle of
1193
00:38:46,091 --> 00:38:47,661
hate.
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00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:48,759
>> LEYDEN: The reality is, if
1195
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,100
the world is all white, who do
1196
00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:51,095
we hate?
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00:38:51,096 --> 00:38:52,096
What's next?
1198
00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:53,367
'Cause that hate's not gonna go
1199
00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:54,365
away.
1200
00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:55,526
It's just gonna manifest itself
1201
00:38:55,534 --> 00:38:56,644
in a different way.
1202
00:38:56,635 --> 00:38:59,965
And I just said, "I can't do
1203
00:38:59,971 --> 00:39:00,971
this anymore.
1204
00:39:00,972 --> 00:39:02,542
It's a lie."
1205
00:39:02,541 --> 00:39:06,081
And I left.
1206
00:39:06,077 --> 00:39:07,077
I created Strhate Talk
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00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:09,718
Consulting, an organization that
1208
00:39:09,715 --> 00:39:10,715
combats hate, bigotry and
1209
00:39:10,716 --> 00:39:11,776
racism.
1210
00:39:11,783 --> 00:39:13,123
And what I do is, I work with
1211
00:39:13,118 --> 00:39:14,848
military, law enforcement,
1212
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,563
colleges and junior highs and
1213
00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:17,585
high schools throughout the
1214
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:18,859
United States to try to help
1215
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:20,857
them combat hatred.
1216
00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,389
>> NARRATOR: But can one voice
1217
00:39:22,394 --> 00:39:24,704
really make a difference?
1218
00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:26,796
And just how many Americans are
1219
00:39:26,798 --> 00:39:30,568
leaving the neo-Nazi movement,
1220
00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:32,799
and how many new members are
1221
00:39:32,804 --> 00:39:34,874
being pulled in?
1222
00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:35,873
>> SCHOEP: National Socialist
1223
00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:37,584
Movement is highly active in
1224
00:39:37,576 --> 00:39:38,576
spreading our message.
1225
00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:39,607
We're active through street
1226
00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:41,581
activism, protests.
1227
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:42,950
We're active sometimes running
1228
00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:44,578
for political office.
1229
00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:46,953
We do a lot of online activity.
1230
00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:48,022
We have a social networking
1231
00:39:48,019 --> 00:39:49,859
Web site called New Saxon, which
1232
00:39:49,855 --> 00:39:51,585
is basically like a MySpace or a
1233
00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:52,590
Facebook.
1234
00:39:52,591 --> 00:39:53,591
>> LEYDEN: The movement is
1235
00:39:53,592 --> 00:39:54,592
growing.
1236
00:39:54,593 --> 00:39:55,593
It's growing rapidly.
1237
00:39:55,594 --> 00:39:56,764
Technology has helped them grow.
1238
00:39:56,762 --> 00:39:58,602
Now they get in a chat room, and
1239
00:39:58,597 --> 00:39:59,727
they're on all the social
1240
00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:00,771
networking sites.
1241
00:40:00,766 --> 00:40:01,766
Music?
1242
00:40:01,767 --> 00:40:02,997
Go to iTunes, and you can
1243
00:40:03,001 --> 00:40:04,041
download white supremacy music
1244
00:40:04,035 --> 00:40:05,035
off iTunes.
1245
00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:06,036
That's how quick it is.
1246
00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:08,037
>> NARRATOR: American Nazis.
1247
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:09,039
>> Sieg Heil!
1248
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Sieg Heil!
1249
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:11,181
>> NARRATOR: They can be as
1250
00:40:11,176 --> 00:40:13,606
identifiable as men and women
1251
00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:15,152
marching in swastika-laden
1252
00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:18,176
uniforms, and skinheads wearing
1253
00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:21,923
hate messages on their bodies.
1254
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,620
Or they can be as covertly
1255
00:40:23,622 --> 00:40:25,622
unassuming as your next-door
1256
00:40:25,624 --> 00:40:28,134
neighbor.
1257
00:40:28,126 --> 00:40:29,996
But one thing is certain.
1258
00:40:29,995 --> 00:40:33,055
The threat they pose should not
1259
00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:34,074
be underestimated.
1260
00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:36,195
>> LEYDEN: They look like you.
1261
00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:37,671
They could be anybody.
1262
00:40:37,669 --> 00:40:39,169
If you ask my mom, she would
1263
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:40,910
never have thought her son could
1264
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:43,639
have been one, but he did.
1265
00:40:43,642 --> 00:40:45,642
>> SIMI: The stereotype of your
1266
00:40:45,644 --> 00:40:47,784
average neo-Nazi is a
1267
00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:49,179
poorly educated person who can
1268
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:50,880
barely spell their first name.
1269
00:40:50,882 --> 00:40:52,522
Well, in fact, they seem to have
1270
00:40:52,518 --> 00:40:54,088
a much wider recruitment
1271
00:40:54,085 --> 00:40:55,645
potential than most people
1272
00:40:55,654 --> 00:40:56,764
recognize or give them credit
1273
00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:58,788
for.
1274
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,790
>> SCHOEP: When you talk about
1275
00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:02,162
America's Book of Secrets
1276
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,660
pertaining to the National
1277
00:41:03,662 --> 00:41:05,102
Socialist Movement, people would
1278
00:41:05,096 --> 00:41:06,966
be surprised to know that we
1279
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:09,225
have judges, that we have police
1280
00:41:09,234 --> 00:41:11,974
officers, military officers.
1281
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,510
One day, we're gonna rise up and
1282
00:41:14,506 --> 00:41:18,906
fight with every shred of our
1283
00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:20,950
being.
1284
00:41:20,946 --> 00:41:22,976
>> NARRATOR: How likely is it
1285
00:41:22,981 --> 00:41:24,981
the U.S. will experience another
1286
00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:27,693
American Nazi attack like the
1287
00:41:27,686 --> 00:41:28,716
one in Oak Creek, Wisconsin?
1288
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:30,790
(siren blaring)
1289
00:41:30,789 --> 00:41:33,119
Was it a random act of violence,
1290
00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:35,694
instigated by a lone-wolf
1291
00:41:35,694 --> 00:41:38,864
gunman, as authorities claimed?
1292
00:41:38,864 --> 00:41:42,134
Or was it only one in a series
1293
00:41:42,133 --> 00:41:43,873
of what will become a growing
1294
00:41:43,869 --> 00:41:45,099
number of Nazi-inspired
1295
00:41:45,136 --> 00:41:47,136
atrocities?
1296
00:41:47,138 --> 00:41:49,138
>> GLETTY: Right now, the white
1297
00:41:49,140 --> 00:41:50,540
power movement, they are
1298
00:41:50,542 --> 00:41:51,582
gaining numbers, but they're
1299
00:41:51,577 --> 00:41:52,577
underground.
1300
00:41:52,578 --> 00:41:53,578
They're just waiting.
1301
00:41:53,579 --> 00:41:54,579
They're biding time.
1302
00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:55,880
And I wouldn't be surprised if
1303
00:41:55,881 --> 00:41:57,221
there's a whole slew of domestic
1304
00:41:57,215 --> 00:41:59,075
terrorism acts that happen here
1305
00:41:59,117 --> 00:42:01,117
soon.
1306
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,119
>> LEYDEN: What do I see as a
1307
00:42:03,121 --> 00:42:04,121
future for the American Nazi
1308
00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:05,122
Party?
1309
00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:06,123
More violence.
1310
00:42:06,124 --> 00:42:07,894
(yelling and shouting)
1311
00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:09,903
More terrorism.
1312
00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:11,725
They're not gonna be happy until
1313
00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:14,770
there's just a white world.
1314
00:42:14,766 --> 00:42:16,266
And they're gonna do whatever it
1315
00:42:16,267 --> 00:42:17,297
takes.
1316
00:42:17,302 --> 00:42:20,172
If it took another holocaust,
1317
00:42:20,171 --> 00:42:23,041
they would do it in a heartbeat.
1318
00:42:23,041 --> 00:42:25,041
>> NARRATOR: American Nazis.
1319
00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:26,043
>> Sieg Heil!
1320
00:42:26,044 --> 00:42:28,054
Sieg Heil!
1321
00:42:28,046 --> 00:42:29,576
>> NARRATOR: Proof that Adolf
1322
00:42:29,581 --> 00:42:31,751
Hitler's legacy of hate lives
1323
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:33,790
on.
1324
00:42:33,785 --> 00:42:35,145
But will this diabolical
1325
00:42:35,153 --> 00:42:37,323
movement really infiltrate our
1326
00:42:37,322 --> 00:42:40,932
institutions, our government and
1327
00:42:40,926 --> 00:42:44,026
our everyday lives?
1328
00:42:44,029 --> 00:42:46,059
Or has it already happened?
1329
00:42:46,064 --> 00:42:47,774
>> Burn, Jew boy, burn!
1330
00:42:47,766 --> 00:42:48,766
>> NARRATOR: Perhaps only time
1331
00:42:48,767 --> 00:42:49,767
and our own conscience will
1332
00:42:49,768 --> 00:42:51,738
tell.
1333
00:42:51,770 --> 00:42:52,740
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