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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.SubtitleDB.org today 2 00:01:16,142 --> 00:01:18,210 In the year 1871... 3 00:01:18,311 --> 00:01:21,578 the great fire nearly destroyed Chicago. 4 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,946 But out of the ashes of that catastrophe rose a new Chicago... 5 00:01:26,052 --> 00:01:30,318 a city of brick and brawn, concrete and guts... 6 00:01:30,423 --> 00:01:34,655 with a short history of violence beating in its pulse. 7 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,720 That history is on record, and the record is kept by the newspapermen... 8 00:01:39,832 --> 00:01:42,892 who have made Chicago's papers great. 9 00:01:45,271 --> 00:01:48,832 No period in Chicago's history was more violent... 10 00:01:48,941 --> 00:01:51,933 than the years of Prohibition. 11 00:01:52,044 --> 00:01:54,740 The rise and fall of the bootlegging empires... 12 00:01:54,847 --> 00:01:58,408 was written in blood and bullets. 13 00:01:58,517 --> 00:02:04,251 In 1932, there were 365 murders committed in Chicago... 14 00:02:04,356 --> 00:02:07,484 one for each day of the year. 15 00:02:07,593 --> 00:02:11,654 Eight policemen were shot down in the line of duty. 16 00:02:11,764 --> 00:02:14,130 One of the most ruthless of these murders... 17 00:02:14,233 --> 00:02:18,602 occurred on December 9, 1932, on South Ashland Avenue... 18 00:02:18,704 --> 00:02:24,007 in a place operated by a woman named Wanda Skutnik. 19 00:02:24,111 --> 00:02:26,875 Wanda Skutnik's store in the Polish district... 20 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:30,472 was the front for a speakeasy. 21 00:02:36,957 --> 00:02:41,018 - You got change for 20? - That's all right. Pay me next time. 22 00:02:55,609 --> 00:02:59,136 Wanda, you're lookin' at a guy that's comin' down with a cold. 23 00:03:00,747 --> 00:03:03,215 - Sit down. - Oh, thanks. 24 00:03:03,316 --> 00:03:05,876 - Hi. - Hi. 25 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:13,425 - For a cold, this is good. - Thanks, Wanda. 26 00:03:57,937 --> 00:04:00,713 The police, Wanda. Get the police. Quick. 27 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:04,201 Hello. Hello, Central. Get me the police. 28 00:04:04,311 --> 00:04:06,279 Yeah. Quick, please. 29 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:16,118 This cornered, frightened bootlegger... 30 00:04:16,223 --> 00:04:21,593 gave information that pointed suspicion towards a man named Tomek Zaleska. 31 00:04:21,695 --> 00:04:24,664 Tomek Zaleska couldn't be found. 32 00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:26,789 But two weeks later, a tip from another source... 33 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:29,733 revealed that Zaleska had spent the night of the murder... 34 00:04:29,836 --> 00:04:32,828 with his friend Frank Wiecek. 35 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:37,400 The police closed in on the home of Helen and Frank Wiecek. 36 00:05:00,067 --> 00:05:03,730 Helen and Frank were taken into custody for questioning. 37 00:05:11,579 --> 00:05:14,776 Frank Wiecek admitted that Tomek Zaleska... 38 00:05:14,882 --> 00:05:17,715 had spent the night of the murder at his home... 39 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:20,378 but insisted he knew nothing about the crime. 40 00:05:20,488 --> 00:05:23,821 Why did Tomek want to sleep at your house? 41 00:05:23,924 --> 00:05:27,451 Well, he was having trouble with his old man. He was afraid to go home. 42 00:05:27,561 --> 00:05:29,995 When did you last report to your probation officer? 43 00:05:30,097 --> 00:05:33,123 - Last Friday. - You're sure it wasn't Thursday? 44 00:05:33,234 --> 00:05:35,498 No, I know it was Friday, because that was the day... 45 00:05:35,603 --> 00:05:37,730 my wife told me she was gonna have a baby. 46 00:05:37,838 --> 00:05:40,966 You went to the probation officer on Thursday, not Friday. 47 00:05:41,075 --> 00:05:45,478 - There's your report card. - You're confused, son. 48 00:05:45,579 --> 00:05:47,547 Try to be a little more accurate. 49 00:05:47,648 --> 00:05:50,708 Where were you at 3:30 on December 9? 50 00:05:52,586 --> 00:05:56,147 I was... I was with my wife. 51 00:05:56,257 --> 00:05:59,715 I remember because I was helping her shell walnuts for a cake she was making. 52 00:05:59,827 --> 00:06:03,024 You were wrong about the day you saw the probation officer. 53 00:06:03,130 --> 00:06:07,499 Maybe you're wrong about being home shelling walnuts for your wife on December 9. 54 00:06:07,601 --> 00:06:10,502 I... I know I made a mistake about the probation officer... 55 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:13,334 but I know I'm right about the other thing. 56 00:06:16,177 --> 00:06:19,305 This statement was signed by your wife an hour ago. 57 00:06:21,115 --> 00:06:24,414 "My husband was home with me on the ninth of December. 58 00:06:24,518 --> 00:06:29,751 I remember because he was helping me pit dates for a cake." 59 00:06:30,958 --> 00:06:34,621 You sure it was walnuts? 60 00:06:37,531 --> 00:06:40,227 I don't know. 61 00:06:40,334 --> 00:06:42,928 I'm sure she must be mistaken. 62 00:06:50,545 --> 00:06:53,946 His wife, Helen, was released. 63 00:06:54,049 --> 00:06:58,713 But because of Frank's confused testimony on insignificant points... 64 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:00,913 and his minor police record... 65 00:07:01,022 --> 00:07:04,150 he was held as a suspect. 66 00:07:17,072 --> 00:07:20,508 Eventually, after hiding out for six weeks... 67 00:07:20,609 --> 00:07:24,773 Tomek Zaleska, protesting his innocence, surrendered to the police. 68 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,848 You knew we were lookin' for you. 69 00:07:26,948 --> 00:07:29,746 You knew we'd picked up your good friends Helen and Frank Wiecek. 70 00:07:29,851 --> 00:07:33,082 Then why didn't you give yourself up if you were innocent as you claimed? 71 00:07:33,188 --> 00:07:35,247 I was... I was scared. 72 00:07:35,357 --> 00:07:37,985 Sometimes I used to hang around Wanda's place. 73 00:07:38,093 --> 00:07:40,755 When I heard they were picking up everybody she knew... 74 00:07:40,862 --> 00:07:43,831 well, I figured nobody would miss me, so I just beat it. 75 00:07:43,932 --> 00:07:46,594 I know now I made a mistake. 76 00:07:46,701 --> 00:07:49,261 But I came in on my own hook, didn't I? 77 00:07:49,371 --> 00:07:51,339 When you went to Wiecek's house that night... 78 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,341 what reason did you give for wanting to sleep there? 79 00:07:54,443 --> 00:07:58,573 I didn't give any reason. I used to spend the night there once in a while. 80 00:08:00,715 --> 00:08:02,979 You didn't give them any reason? 81 00:08:03,084 --> 00:08:07,316 No, I just asked them to let me stay there and they did. 82 00:08:07,422 --> 00:08:10,016 And you're sure you gave them no reason? 83 00:08:10,125 --> 00:08:12,093 No. 84 00:08:13,795 --> 00:08:17,060 After identification by an eyewitness... 85 00:08:17,165 --> 00:08:19,827 Frank Wiecek and Tomek Zaleska... 86 00:08:19,935 --> 00:08:22,961 were indicted for the murder of Officer Bundy... 87 00:08:23,071 --> 00:08:25,631 and swiftly brought to trial. 88 00:08:25,740 --> 00:08:29,141 I will ask you, Mrs. Skutnik, if you see in this courtroom... 89 00:08:29,244 --> 00:08:33,044 the two men that murdered Policeman John Bundy. 90 00:08:34,583 --> 00:08:36,574 Yes, sir. 91 00:08:36,685 --> 00:08:39,347 Him... and him. 92 00:08:39,454 --> 00:08:42,548 Had you ever seen either of these men prior to the time of shooting? 93 00:08:42,657 --> 00:08:47,094 Oh, sure. Tomek used to come around my place all the time. 94 00:08:47,195 --> 00:08:49,823 The other fella, I never saw before. 95 00:08:49,931 --> 00:08:52,593 And the first time you saw Frank Wiecek... 96 00:08:52,701 --> 00:08:55,192 - was on the day of the murder? - Yes, sir. 97 00:08:55,303 --> 00:08:58,899 And the next time you saw him was the day you picked him out of the police lineup. 98 00:08:59,008 --> 00:09:01,374 Yes, sir. 99 00:09:01,477 --> 00:09:04,071 Thank you, Your Honor. The People rest. 100 00:09:05,882 --> 00:09:09,010 Both men received a sentence of 99 years... 101 00:09:09,118 --> 00:09:11,712 to be served in Stateville Penitentiary. 102 00:09:11,821 --> 00:09:15,257 This happened in November 1933. 103 00:09:15,358 --> 00:09:17,656 Frank and Tomek went to prison. 104 00:09:19,896 --> 00:09:23,024 The case was forgotten for 11 years. 105 00:09:23,132 --> 00:09:27,034 Forgotten until October 10, 1944... 106 00:09:27,136 --> 00:09:32,199 when a small advertisement appeared in the classified section of the Chicago Times. 107 00:09:38,915 --> 00:09:40,883 Boy! 108 00:09:43,586 --> 00:09:46,612 - Yes, sir? - Get me the file on John W. Bundy... 109 00:09:46,722 --> 00:09:49,122 - cop killed in '32. - All right. 110 00:09:50,359 --> 00:09:52,350 - And get at McNeal. - Yes, sir. 111 00:09:54,564 --> 00:09:56,555 Kelly wants you. 112 00:10:13,382 --> 00:10:15,509 Check this. 113 00:10:20,423 --> 00:10:21,864 What do you make of it? 114 00:10:21,944 --> 00:10:25,431 I want to know why it's worth 5,000 bucks to someone to find out who killed a cop... 115 00:10:25,511 --> 00:10:27,329 11 years ago. 116 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:31,025 Well, 1932 was open season for cops. 117 00:10:31,133 --> 00:10:34,432 Over on the Northside, they were shootin' 'em in pairs, like a brace of ducks. 118 00:10:34,537 --> 00:10:38,803 This is all I could find on that cop killed in 1932... that Bundy guy, Mr. Kelly. 119 00:10:42,311 --> 00:10:44,802 Now, you see what I mean? 120 00:10:44,914 --> 00:10:48,111 - He didn't rate much. - It wouldn't hurt to check it. 121 00:10:48,217 --> 00:10:51,118 You might get your name in the paper. 122 00:10:52,455 --> 00:10:54,480 This is sucker bait! 123 00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:57,616 Every grifter and mooch in town'll be after that five grand. 124 00:10:57,727 --> 00:11:00,491 They'll frame their brothers to get it. 125 00:11:00,596 --> 00:11:03,895 Maybe this is a frame. There's a lot of angles in this city. 126 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,525 You see what I mean? 127 00:11:06,636 --> 00:11:09,197 Just takes you longer to catch on, that's all. 128 00:11:12,009 --> 00:11:14,034 I was just thinkin' about it. 129 00:11:54,151 --> 00:11:56,585 I'm lookin' for Tillie Wiecek. 130 00:11:58,121 --> 00:12:01,955 - Uh, what you want? - I called Northside 777... 131 00:12:02,059 --> 00:12:06,052 - and they said I'd find her here. - I'm Tillie. 132 00:12:17,841 --> 00:12:20,105 You run this ad? 133 00:12:23,346 --> 00:12:26,315 Yes. That's for me. 134 00:12:26,416 --> 00:12:29,442 - You know something? - No. No, no. 135 00:12:29,553 --> 00:12:32,784 No, I'm a reporter for the Chicago Times. 136 00:12:32,889 --> 00:12:36,985 We'd like to know why you're so interested in finding the killers of this cop. 137 00:12:37,094 --> 00:12:40,291 Frank Wiecek is my son. 138 00:12:40,397 --> 00:12:42,797 I his mother. 139 00:12:42,899 --> 00:12:46,391 My son's in prison for killing him. 140 00:12:46,503 --> 00:12:48,994 He didn't do it. 141 00:12:49,106 --> 00:12:52,507 My friends, they tell me if I offer big money... 142 00:12:52,609 --> 00:12:55,510 maybe somebody will tell who killed the policeman. 143 00:12:55,612 --> 00:12:58,638 Now, you mean, your son's in prison for killin' the cop, that right? 144 00:12:58,749 --> 00:13:01,980 Yes. But he don't do it. 145 00:13:02,085 --> 00:13:04,986 My Frank's a good boy. He don't do this thing. 146 00:13:05,088 --> 00:13:07,852 I... About this $5,000... 147 00:13:07,958 --> 00:13:10,518 where'd you get it? 148 00:13:10,627 --> 00:13:14,654 - Is that important? - Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's very important. 149 00:13:14,765 --> 00:13:18,098 Where he got it, where you got it, might have a lot to do with the case. 150 00:13:18,201 --> 00:13:20,466 He might have had it hidden away someplace. 151 00:13:20,571 --> 00:13:23,005 Maybe you got it from some mob that's tryin' to spring him. 152 00:13:23,107 --> 00:13:25,575 No. No. 153 00:13:26,911 --> 00:13:30,176 I work. I scrub floors. 154 00:13:30,281 --> 00:13:34,149 Eleven years, I never miss a day's work. 155 00:13:34,252 --> 00:13:36,982 I earned it, every penny. 156 00:13:37,088 --> 00:13:41,457 Eleven years? That's a long time. 157 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,325 Yes. You just say it. 158 00:13:45,429 --> 00:13:47,727 My boy, he lived it. 159 00:13:47,832 --> 00:13:49,461 Believe me, mister. 160 00:13:49,541 --> 00:13:52,761 You don't know my Frank. But me, I his mother. 161 00:13:52,841 --> 00:13:56,635 You got some new evidence, something that wasn't brought up at the trial? 162 00:13:56,715 --> 00:14:02,076 No. Uh, no. That's why I try to buy new evidence. 163 00:14:02,180 --> 00:14:07,140 Oh, now, you're just... You're just wasting your money. You'll get cheated out of it. 164 00:14:07,251 --> 00:14:10,687 - No. Not me. - Look. Look, lady. 165 00:14:10,788 --> 00:14:13,188 He's in for 99 years. 166 00:14:13,291 --> 00:14:15,259 Now, if you want to make good use of that money... 167 00:14:15,359 --> 00:14:19,056 send him lots of cigarettes and candy, try and keep him happy. 168 00:14:19,163 --> 00:14:22,030 You very kind. 169 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:25,569 But I not use my money for candy or cigarettes. 170 00:14:27,104 --> 00:14:30,096 If you not able to help... 171 00:14:30,208 --> 00:14:34,838 I get my Frank out someday, somehow. 172 00:14:34,946 --> 00:14:36,937 I dream of this day. 173 00:14:38,216 --> 00:14:40,741 $5,000 is a lot for a dream. 174 00:14:40,852 --> 00:14:44,618 Yes. Eleven years! 175 00:14:44,722 --> 00:14:47,384 I dream and I work. 176 00:14:47,491 --> 00:14:51,018 First, I try $3,000. 177 00:14:51,128 --> 00:14:55,588 Nothing. Now I try $5,000! 178 00:14:55,700 --> 00:15:01,332 - Suppose nothing happens? - Then I work 11 more years. 179 00:15:01,439 --> 00:15:04,966 I get $10,000! 180 00:15:05,076 --> 00:15:09,706 But my boy, someday he get out. 181 00:15:19,891 --> 00:15:23,452 Well, I got to hand it to ya, Mrs. Wiecek. You got a lot of courage. 182 00:15:23,561 --> 00:15:28,055 - You help me? - No, I'm afraid I couldn't do that. 183 00:15:28,165 --> 00:15:30,634 I'm only a reporter. I just write the story. 184 00:15:31,870 --> 00:15:35,328 Well, good luck to you. 185 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,965 Good-bye. 186 00:16:12,778 --> 00:16:15,770 - Great job, Mac. - Thanks, Johnny. 187 00:16:19,284 --> 00:16:21,809 Mac. 188 00:16:32,297 --> 00:16:36,791 Hey, this story on the scrub woman... pretty good. 189 00:16:36,902 --> 00:16:39,996 How'd you like to follow it up by goin' out to Stateville... 190 00:16:40,105 --> 00:16:42,903 - and interviewin' her son? - Well, now, wait a minute. 191 00:16:43,008 --> 00:16:46,068 I didn't write this story to glorify the son. He's a cop-killer. 192 00:16:46,178 --> 00:16:48,339 Well, you got any proof he's a cop-killer? 193 00:16:48,447 --> 00:16:51,814 Well, they didn't give him 99 years for playin' hooky. 194 00:16:51,917 --> 00:16:53,885 He had a record. 195 00:16:53,986 --> 00:16:55,977 He was on probation when he shot the cop. 196 00:16:56,088 --> 00:16:58,215 Yeah, I know. I read the record too. 197 00:16:58,323 --> 00:17:00,314 He's Public Enemy Number One. 198 00:17:00,425 --> 00:17:02,893 He and a couple of other kids broke into a grocery store. 199 00:17:02,995 --> 00:17:05,327 He got two bucks and a record. 200 00:17:05,430 --> 00:17:07,557 But in this case, an eyewitness... 201 00:17:07,666 --> 00:17:09,861 identified him as one of the killers. 202 00:17:09,968 --> 00:17:14,029 The Supreme Court reviewed the trial. The conviction was upheld. 203 00:17:14,139 --> 00:17:16,869 Well, so what? It wouldn't hurt anything to hear what the guy has to say, would it? 204 00:17:16,975 --> 00:17:18,943 - Well, why... If you go out there... - Well, look, Mac. 205 00:17:19,044 --> 00:17:21,035 Let's put it this way... 206 00:17:21,146 --> 00:17:23,410 maybe I'm interested for personal reasons. 207 00:17:23,515 --> 00:17:26,109 Maybe I'm interested 'cause my mother did the same thing. 208 00:17:26,218 --> 00:17:30,746 She scrubbed floors on her hands and knees for 11 years to send me through school. 209 00:17:33,458 --> 00:17:36,359 Okay, I'll go out to the pen tomorrow and see him. 210 00:17:36,461 --> 00:17:38,429 How about expenses? 211 00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:44,697 Here's a voucher. Take it to the cashier. 212 00:17:52,045 --> 00:17:54,707 - Kelly? - Hmm? 213 00:17:54,814 --> 00:17:57,874 I happen to know your mother had a small annuity. 214 00:17:57,984 --> 00:17:59,952 She never scrubbed a floor in her life. 215 00:18:00,053 --> 00:18:03,614 You never got past the fifth grade. 216 00:18:03,723 --> 00:18:08,558 But I figure if you pull such a corny gag as this, you must want me to go pretty bad. 217 00:18:08,661 --> 00:18:11,892 So I'm going. 218 00:18:11,998 --> 00:18:16,196 But I... I want you to know that you didn't get away with it. 219 00:18:23,076 --> 00:18:26,239 - Jim? - Yeah. 220 00:18:26,345 --> 00:18:29,280 You're early tonight. What happened? 221 00:18:29,382 --> 00:18:31,976 Oh, I got to get up 8:30 in the morning, go out to Stateville... 222 00:18:32,085 --> 00:18:34,178 and see that scrub woman's boy. 223 00:18:34,287 --> 00:18:37,154 - Got something to eat for me? - Mm-hmm, it's all ready. 224 00:18:40,693 --> 00:18:42,661 Hey! 225 00:18:45,264 --> 00:18:47,232 - Hi. - Hi. 226 00:18:58,044 --> 00:19:00,308 Hey! Got a new one, huh? 227 00:19:00,413 --> 00:19:03,007 Isn't a beauty? Five hundred pieces. 228 00:19:04,484 --> 00:19:06,475 Say, I can't see how a smart girl like you... 229 00:19:06,586 --> 00:19:08,554 can spend so much time on these things. 230 00:19:08,654 --> 00:19:13,284 - Oh, I noticed you worked on the last one. - Mmm. 231 00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:21,491 You know, that was a marvelous yarn you wrote about that Polish woman. 232 00:19:21,601 --> 00:19:24,126 Had a lot of feeling. 233 00:19:25,905 --> 00:19:28,203 What a magnificent thing that old lady did. 234 00:19:28,307 --> 00:19:30,366 Yeah. Everybody's touched. 235 00:19:30,476 --> 00:19:32,444 Especially Kelly. 236 00:19:33,646 --> 00:19:37,013 I was too. Makes you feel warm. 237 00:19:37,116 --> 00:19:39,084 Well, I hit it pretty hard. 238 00:19:39,185 --> 00:19:41,176 But don't start believin' it. 239 00:19:41,287 --> 00:19:44,188 I read the files on the case. That kid killed the cop. 240 00:19:44,290 --> 00:19:46,656 He got what was comin' to him. 241 00:19:46,759 --> 00:19:49,694 Now, I need a branch of a tree right in there. 242 00:19:49,795 --> 00:19:51,763 See one around? 243 00:19:55,335 --> 00:19:58,168 No, that's sky. That's sky. 244 00:19:59,873 --> 00:20:02,740 I wasn't thinking about the boy. 245 00:20:02,843 --> 00:20:04,834 I was thinking about his mother. 246 00:20:04,945 --> 00:20:08,506 I hammer out a sob story, and everybody's blubberin' all over me. 247 00:20:08,615 --> 00:20:13,018 You know what it is? It catches your imagination. 248 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,918 Nobody knows whether she's right or not, but... 249 00:20:16,023 --> 00:20:19,255 she's worked so hard... she's had such faith... that... 250 00:20:20,591 --> 00:20:22,292 well, I want her to be right. 251 00:20:23,730 --> 00:20:25,789 Honey, I love ya. 252 00:20:25,899 --> 00:20:29,630 Wouldn't you scrub floors for me if I shot old Kelly in the head? 253 00:20:29,736 --> 00:20:33,502 - Oh, I don't know. - You don't know. You don't... 254 00:20:36,210 --> 00:20:39,304 - Jim... - Oh, here's one. Here's one looks like it. 255 00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:42,405 - No. - Jim. 256 00:20:42,516 --> 00:20:45,144 Look, I'm goin' out to see him tomorrow. 257 00:20:47,087 --> 00:20:50,818 Why you... You women are suckers for sentimentality, aren't ya? 258 00:20:50,924 --> 00:20:53,415 I guess that's how I got you. 259 00:20:53,527 --> 00:20:57,054 All I had to do was dangle an orange blossom in front of you. 260 00:20:57,164 --> 00:21:00,065 Oh, it took a little more than that, Mr. McNeal. 261 00:21:00,167 --> 00:21:02,897 - It did, huh? Mm-hmm. - Hmm. 262 00:21:39,573 --> 00:21:42,633 - What kind of a guy is he, Warden? - I like him. 263 00:21:42,743 --> 00:21:44,711 Oh. 264 00:21:47,414 --> 00:21:50,349 Frank, this is McNeal of the Chicago Times. 265 00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:52,543 He wants to interview you. 266 00:21:52,653 --> 00:21:55,874 Now, you don't have to consent to this interview or answer any questions... 267 00:21:55,954 --> 00:21:57,856 - ...if you don't want to. - But I do want to. 268 00:21:57,958 --> 00:22:00,518 - Sure, I want to. - Okay. 269 00:22:00,627 --> 00:22:04,860 That's fine. He's yours. Sit down, Frank. 270 00:22:04,966 --> 00:22:07,196 The Times has taken an interest in your case. 271 00:22:07,302 --> 00:22:09,964 - I came out to ask you some questions. - Yes, sir. 272 00:22:10,071 --> 00:22:13,302 I'd like more of your story, your side of it. 273 00:22:13,408 --> 00:22:16,070 I need an angle, something to hit the public with. You understand? 274 00:22:16,177 --> 00:22:17,358 Yes, sir. 275 00:22:17,438 --> 00:22:21,000 Now, you knew about the ad your mother ran in the papers 276 00:22:21,115 --> 00:22:24,812 - and the $5,000 reward? - Yeah. 277 00:22:24,919 --> 00:22:27,717 Did ya know she was scrubbin' floors to earn that money? 278 00:22:27,822 --> 00:22:30,347 Yes, I did. 279 00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:33,916 All she lives for is to get me out. 280 00:22:34,028 --> 00:22:36,019 I guess that's all I've got to live for too. 281 00:22:36,130 --> 00:22:38,860 Well, that's a very good angle to play up... 282 00:22:38,966 --> 00:22:41,127 your faith in your mother, her faith in you. 283 00:22:43,037 --> 00:22:45,835 You know, if you're guilty... 284 00:22:45,940 --> 00:22:48,835 you're just letting her slave her life away for nothing. 285 00:22:48,943 --> 00:22:51,468 - She knows I'm not guilty. - Uh-huh. 286 00:22:53,047 --> 00:22:56,175 I read the news clips... 287 00:22:56,284 --> 00:22:58,912 the transcript of the trial. 288 00:22:59,020 --> 00:23:01,386 They don't whitewash you, the way I see it. 289 00:23:01,489 --> 00:23:03,957 But you only read what convicted me. 290 00:23:04,058 --> 00:23:06,424 All the true facts didn't come out. 291 00:23:06,527 --> 00:23:08,757 Even Judge Moulton said I was innocent. 292 00:23:08,863 --> 00:23:10,922 The judge that gave you 99 years? 293 00:23:11,032 --> 00:23:13,227 Well, the jury said we were guilty. He had to. 294 00:23:13,334 --> 00:23:16,064 But in his chambers, he said he knew we were innocent. 295 00:23:16,170 --> 00:23:18,570 - When was that? - Well, after he sentenced us... 296 00:23:18,673 --> 00:23:22,040 Oh, after. Well, maybe we'd better duck that. 297 00:23:22,143 --> 00:23:24,168 What else? 298 00:23:25,246 --> 00:23:27,237 My lawyer was a drunk. 299 00:23:27,348 --> 00:23:30,784 He wouldn't even let me take the stand. He was afraid I'd get the chair. 300 00:23:30,885 --> 00:23:33,251 Uh-huh. Go on. 301 00:23:33,354 --> 00:23:36,323 Well, when they question you hour after hour... 302 00:23:36,424 --> 00:23:39,723 you're bound to get mixed up on a lot of little things the way I did. 303 00:23:39,827 --> 00:23:42,728 That's another good angle... railroaded, huh? 304 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:45,424 Then they took me from one police station to another... 305 00:23:45,533 --> 00:23:47,501 every few hours... 306 00:23:47,602 --> 00:23:49,968 taking me "around the horn," they call it... 307 00:23:50,071 --> 00:23:52,699 so my lawyer couldn't get me out. 308 00:23:54,509 --> 00:23:57,137 And this Wanda Skutnik... 309 00:23:57,245 --> 00:24:00,339 the first two times she saw me, she said I wasn't the man. 310 00:24:00,448 --> 00:24:03,315 - Then, all of a sudden, she said I was. - Finger woman, huh? 311 00:24:03,418 --> 00:24:05,409 All right. We'll play that up too. 312 00:24:07,355 --> 00:24:10,324 I was home with my wife the night the policeman was killed. 313 00:24:11,592 --> 00:24:13,583 Does your wife visit you regularly? 314 00:24:13,694 --> 00:24:16,664 My wife? Yeah. 315 00:24:16,765 --> 00:24:18,756 We're divorced. 316 00:24:20,903 --> 00:24:24,361 Well, we... better duck that angle too. 317 00:24:24,473 --> 00:24:26,873 You duck so many things. You don't believe me, do you? 318 00:24:26,975 --> 00:24:30,843 I talked to your mother. She's a very fine old woman. 319 00:24:30,946 --> 00:24:32,971 She believes you. I need proof. 320 00:24:34,616 --> 00:24:38,609 - I got no proof. - Yeah. Yeah, I know. 321 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,188 All right. Now, what we'll do with this thing is this. 322 00:24:41,290 --> 00:24:45,879 We'll play up this mother angle and the finger woman and maybe a little police... 323 00:24:45,959 --> 00:24:48,692 - and political corruption too. - I didn't say that. 324 00:24:48,797 --> 00:24:50,822 Well, what difference does that make? It's a good angle. 325 00:24:50,933 --> 00:24:55,233 Probably true anyway. See, you don't want a wishy-washy story. 326 00:24:55,337 --> 00:24:57,737 This thing's got to have sock... mass appeal. 327 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,172 It's the only way we'll be able to help you... 328 00:25:00,275 --> 00:25:04,006 get sympathy, public support. 329 00:25:04,112 --> 00:25:06,080 You leave it to me. 330 00:25:06,181 --> 00:25:08,149 Okay, Warden. 331 00:25:09,251 --> 00:25:11,219 Thank you. 332 00:25:12,354 --> 00:25:14,914 That's all, Frank. 333 00:25:24,299 --> 00:25:26,859 Are there any guilty men out here? 334 00:25:26,969 --> 00:25:29,665 Not if you hear them tell it. 335 00:25:29,771 --> 00:25:31,864 They sure make a hard pitch, don't they? 336 00:25:31,974 --> 00:25:35,501 Ninety-nine years is a long time. 337 00:25:35,611 --> 00:25:38,136 Maybe he'd been better off if he got the chair. 338 00:26:01,336 --> 00:26:05,295 Mr. McNeal is busy. But I'll tell him you liked the story. You're welcome. 339 00:26:05,407 --> 00:26:09,639 Yes, the Times is going to continue with the Wiecek case. You're welcome. 340 00:26:19,821 --> 00:26:22,585 Yeah. 341 00:26:22,691 --> 00:26:25,626 Yes. Well, thank you very much for calling. 342 00:26:25,727 --> 00:26:30,097 That's right, lady. I guess the Times is gonna follow up the case. 343 00:26:30,199 --> 00:26:32,258 Yes. Good-bye. 344 00:26:32,368 --> 00:26:35,098 - What are you gonna use for a follow-up? - What follow-up? 345 00:26:35,204 --> 00:26:37,172 Well, the thing is snowballing. I want more of it. 346 00:26:37,273 --> 00:26:39,798 Well, do you wanna give me a raise, or do I just get... 347 00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:42,309 the 5,000 from Wiecek's mother? 348 00:26:42,412 --> 00:26:45,643 Look, Mac. My job's to print the news that's fit to print. 349 00:26:45,748 --> 00:26:50,447 Did it ever occur to you that we might be sellin' this dead cop short? 350 00:26:50,553 --> 00:26:53,579 Maybe he had a mother that scrubbed floors too. 351 00:27:05,268 --> 00:27:07,259 And another thing, remember what Wiecek said... 352 00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:09,634 about that judge that promised him a new trial? 353 00:27:09,739 --> 00:27:12,469 Well, the judge died three weeks after the case was closed. 354 00:27:12,575 --> 00:27:16,204 He's been dead for 11 years. That Wiecek's a pretty smart cookie, you know. 355 00:27:16,312 --> 00:27:18,610 He gives me a lead and knows I can't check up on it. 356 00:27:18,715 --> 00:27:21,650 Well, why don't you take a different lead? 357 00:27:21,751 --> 00:27:25,812 Look, Mac. You know we're getting more than 20 phone calls per hour from our readers. 358 00:27:25,922 --> 00:27:29,858 Yeah, and every time that phone rings, you see those great big juicy headlines. 359 00:27:29,959 --> 00:27:32,860 I know, "Chicago Times Clears Innocent Man." 360 00:27:32,962 --> 00:27:35,795 - Well, why not? - Well, why not? It's impossible, Kelly. 361 00:27:35,898 --> 00:27:37,866 - You can't do a thing like that. - Listen, Mac. 362 00:27:37,967 --> 00:27:41,528 If you don't like the story, if you think he's guilty, end it. 363 00:27:41,638 --> 00:27:45,665 - Write a finish piece, and kill it. - I'll take that deal. 364 00:27:45,775 --> 00:27:50,371 I'll interview his wife. She believed in him so much, she divorced him. 365 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,471 That ought to kill it for good. 366 00:28:09,032 --> 00:28:12,024 - I'm looking for Helen Rayska. - Yes. 367 00:28:12,135 --> 00:28:15,832 I'm McNeal of the Times. I'm doing a series on the Wiecek case. 368 00:28:15,938 --> 00:28:17,906 Oh, yes. I read them. 369 00:28:18,007 --> 00:28:20,373 Please come in. 370 00:28:20,476 --> 00:28:23,274 This way, please. 371 00:28:23,379 --> 00:28:27,315 Oh, excuse me. Just a minute. 372 00:28:29,686 --> 00:28:32,951 I got your address from your former mother-in-law, Tillie Wiecek. 373 00:28:33,056 --> 00:28:36,219 I haven't seen her since the divorce. 374 00:28:36,325 --> 00:28:39,420 I guess she doesn't feel very kindly towards me. 375 00:28:39,530 --> 00:28:42,761 - Uh-huh. - Will you sit down, please? 376 00:28:45,502 --> 00:28:48,369 Do you think there is a chance that Frank will get free? 377 00:28:48,472 --> 00:28:51,873 - Do you want him to? - Sure, I want him to. 378 00:28:54,078 --> 00:28:56,069 Would you be waiting for him? 379 00:28:57,815 --> 00:29:01,410 No. No, I wouldn't. 380 00:29:01,518 --> 00:29:03,782 - I married again. - Oh. 381 00:29:03,887 --> 00:29:05,878 But I'd be glad for Frank... 382 00:29:05,989 --> 00:29:08,082 because he's a fine man. 383 00:29:08,192 --> 00:29:10,422 And because he's innocent. 384 00:29:10,527 --> 00:29:13,257 He was at home with me when the policeman was killed. 385 00:29:13,363 --> 00:29:15,627 Yeah. Yeah, I know. You were bakin' a cake. 386 00:29:15,733 --> 00:29:19,567 Uh... You loved him... then, I mean. 387 00:29:19,670 --> 00:29:22,332 I did... very much. 388 00:29:22,439 --> 00:29:24,907 But the lonely nights were too much for you. 389 00:29:25,008 --> 00:29:26,703 - You couldn't go on that way. Was that it? - Oh, no, no. 390 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:28,778 No, that's what Tillie might think. 391 00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:33,081 I loved him. I would have stuck to him. 392 00:29:33,183 --> 00:29:35,811 But Frank wanted me to get the divorce. 393 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:39,082 Hmm. Did he pick out your new husband for you too? 394 00:29:39,189 --> 00:29:41,589 It's the truth. 395 00:29:41,692 --> 00:29:46,789 Did you contribute to the reward money, or did Tillie earn all that by herself? 396 00:29:46,897 --> 00:29:49,491 No, I couldn't help. 397 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,591 I haven't anything. 398 00:29:51,702 --> 00:29:54,136 My husband, Mr. Rayska... 399 00:29:54,238 --> 00:29:57,674 takes care of me and my boy... Frank's boy. 400 00:29:57,775 --> 00:30:00,141 I can't ask more than that. 401 00:30:00,244 --> 00:30:04,010 He is a good man, and he loves me and he loves the boy. 402 00:30:04,114 --> 00:30:06,105 We're lucky. 403 00:30:07,818 --> 00:30:09,877 Yeah. You seemed to have got out of it all right. 404 00:30:09,987 --> 00:30:15,823 Mr. McNeal, I told you the truth about the divorce. Frank wanted it. 405 00:30:15,926 --> 00:30:19,487 Well, it's going to very hard to make people believe it. 406 00:30:19,596 --> 00:30:23,396 Frank's wife says he's innocent and shows her faith by divorcing him, you know. 407 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:27,459 But that's just the way it was. 408 00:30:27,571 --> 00:30:30,802 I went up to see him that day... 409 00:30:30,908 --> 00:30:34,844 wanting him to keep up hope, wanting to cheer him up. 410 00:30:34,945 --> 00:30:39,905 He looked depressed, the way you do when you're terribly worried. 411 00:31:01,206 --> 00:31:03,731 - How have you been? - Fine. 412 00:31:03,842 --> 00:31:05,833 - How have you been? - Fine. 413 00:31:05,944 --> 00:31:09,345 - How's Ma? - Fine. 414 00:31:09,447 --> 00:31:12,439 And the boy... How's the boy? 415 00:31:12,550 --> 00:31:15,280 Oh, he is fine. 416 00:31:15,386 --> 00:31:17,616 Always fine. 417 00:31:17,722 --> 00:31:20,589 Everything's fine. 418 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,087 We have nothing to say anymore. 419 00:31:24,195 --> 00:31:27,926 - Oh, Frank, darling, please. - I know. I know. 420 00:31:28,032 --> 00:31:30,023 So many things you don't say. 421 00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:35,371 You don't want to talk about the outside, because I'm in here. 422 00:31:35,473 --> 00:31:38,306 You don't want to remind me. 423 00:31:38,409 --> 00:31:41,242 But I remind myself. 424 00:31:41,346 --> 00:31:45,146 I think of lots of things. 425 00:31:45,250 --> 00:31:49,744 Helen, tell me, how... how's the boy doing in school? 426 00:31:49,854 --> 00:31:53,119 He's doing very well, Frank. 427 00:31:53,224 --> 00:31:56,318 But what about the other boys? 428 00:31:56,427 --> 00:31:58,418 Kids can hurt him bad. 429 00:31:58,529 --> 00:32:01,623 - They're only kids, Frank. - Yeah. 430 00:32:01,733 --> 00:32:05,169 - They do not know what they are saying. - They know... 431 00:32:05,270 --> 00:32:07,932 son of a jailbird, cop-killer's son. 432 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,303 Oh, it's nothing, Frank. 433 00:32:10,408 --> 00:32:13,775 I was thinking about moving to a new neighborhood anyway. 434 00:32:13,878 --> 00:32:17,575 - He'll go to a new school. - No, it's no good. 435 00:32:17,682 --> 00:32:20,651 A new school is no good, Helen. 436 00:32:20,752 --> 00:32:24,188 A new name, that would be good. 437 00:32:24,289 --> 00:32:28,419 - Frank! - I'm... I'm just like dead, Helen. 438 00:32:30,862 --> 00:32:34,628 In 30 years, maybe I can get a parole if I'm lucky. 439 00:32:34,732 --> 00:32:36,700 Thirty years. 440 00:32:38,202 --> 00:32:41,660 Helen, you've... 441 00:32:41,773 --> 00:32:44,742 You've got to divorce me, Helen. 442 00:32:47,045 --> 00:32:50,811 - You can't mean that, Frank. - Yes. 443 00:32:50,915 --> 00:32:56,046 Love's not for us anymore, Helen. It's finished. 444 00:32:56,154 --> 00:32:58,315 Now we must think of the boy... 445 00:32:58,423 --> 00:33:00,687 only the boy. 446 00:33:00,792 --> 00:33:03,353 My boy must live for me. 447 00:33:03,462 --> 00:33:07,330 But I couldn't do it, Frank. 448 00:33:07,433 --> 00:33:10,891 I just couldn't. 449 00:33:15,274 --> 00:33:18,710 And for over a year, I wouldn't do it, Mr. McNeal. 450 00:33:20,011 --> 00:33:23,771 But Frank kept begging me and begging me. 451 00:33:26,352 --> 00:33:29,219 Then I met Mr. Rayska. 452 00:33:29,321 --> 00:33:34,349 He loved me, and he was fond of little Frank. 453 00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:37,054 He understood everything about us. 454 00:33:37,162 --> 00:33:40,325 Well, what about the boy? Does he know? 455 00:33:41,667 --> 00:33:44,465 Yes. He knows. 456 00:33:46,038 --> 00:33:49,269 But now, everyone calls his father Uncle Frank. 457 00:33:49,975 --> 00:33:52,107 We've made a point of that. 458 00:33:52,210 --> 00:33:53,903 Mom! 459 00:33:54,013 --> 00:33:56,208 Look, Mom! Brand-new... 460 00:33:56,315 --> 00:33:58,579 He lost the other one. 461 00:33:58,684 --> 00:34:01,209 This is Mr. McNeal of the newspaper. 462 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,288 And that's my husband, Mr. Rayska. 463 00:34:03,389 --> 00:34:05,380 - Rayska. - And that's my boy, Frank. 464 00:34:05,491 --> 00:34:07,459 - Hello. - How are you? Say, I'd like to get... 465 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,618 - a couple of shots of you and the boy. - That's all right. 466 00:34:09,728 --> 00:34:11,958 - Come on, son. Sit right there. - Come over here, Frank. 467 00:34:12,064 --> 00:34:14,464 Here you are. 468 00:34:14,566 --> 00:34:16,591 Hey, Pete. 469 00:34:24,676 --> 00:34:26,701 Mr. Rayska, you mind if I ask you a couple of questions? 470 00:34:26,812 --> 00:34:30,873 - Certainly not. - Were you in Chicago in December of 1932? 471 00:34:30,983 --> 00:34:34,578 - Yes, why? - Did you know Helen then? 472 00:34:34,686 --> 00:34:37,985 What do you mean, asking such a question? 473 00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:41,321 - Any objections to answering? - No. No objections. 474 00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:44,123 He's got to ask everything, dear. I know that. 475 00:34:44,229 --> 00:34:46,629 I didn't meet Helen till after she was divorced. 476 00:34:46,732 --> 00:34:49,462 - This can be proved by our friends. - I see. I see. 477 00:34:49,568 --> 00:34:51,798 You understand I have to ask a lot of questions. 478 00:34:51,904 --> 00:34:54,395 I... Sorry. 479 00:34:54,506 --> 00:34:58,499 What's he askin' all the questions for anyway? What's the big idea? 480 00:34:58,610 --> 00:35:03,445 - It's about your Uncle Frank. - He's not my uncle! He's my father! 481 00:35:06,718 --> 00:35:08,686 Well, thank you, folks. 482 00:35:10,889 --> 00:35:12,858 Good-bye. 483 00:36:26,766 --> 00:36:29,735 Darling, wake up. 484 00:36:32,205 --> 00:36:34,264 What's the matter? 485 00:36:36,209 --> 00:36:39,178 - Huh? - Hungry? 486 00:36:39,279 --> 00:36:42,942 - Want a nice sandwich? - No, no, no, no, no... 487 00:36:43,049 --> 00:36:47,850 You've been gnashing your teeth and making an awful noise. 488 00:36:47,954 --> 00:36:49,945 I've never known you to be like this, Jim. 489 00:36:50,056 --> 00:36:53,583 Well, maybe it's something I ate. 490 00:36:53,693 --> 00:36:55,786 I ate the same things. 491 00:36:58,631 --> 00:37:01,623 Well, maybe it's something I wrote then. 492 00:37:36,704 --> 00:37:39,104 Hey, you look nice. 493 00:37:39,206 --> 00:37:41,174 Will you marry me? 494 00:37:41,275 --> 00:37:45,143 - I did. - Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. 495 00:37:46,547 --> 00:37:49,141 - Thanks. - You're welcome. 496 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:51,241 Just remember, I'm here. 497 00:37:53,587 --> 00:37:56,750 Well, come on over here. Maybe we can work this out together. 498 00:38:00,394 --> 00:38:03,659 What's the matter? Won't the pieces fit together? 499 00:38:03,764 --> 00:38:06,494 Some of 'em, but they make the wrong picture. 500 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,364 Pieces never make the wrong picture. 501 00:38:09,470 --> 00:38:12,598 Maybe you're looking at them from the wrong angle. 502 00:38:12,706 --> 00:38:14,833 Sometimes it's mighty hard to figure. 503 00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:19,008 Why don't you let go? 504 00:38:19,113 --> 00:38:21,604 You want him to be innocent. 505 00:38:21,715 --> 00:38:23,808 You want him to be free. 506 00:38:23,917 --> 00:38:27,876 - Admit it. - Well, maybe you're right. 507 00:38:27,988 --> 00:38:31,515 Maybe I do want him to be free, but that doesn't make me believe he's innocent. 508 00:38:31,625 --> 00:38:34,492 If you want to believe, that's enough. 509 00:38:34,595 --> 00:38:36,563 Believe it. 510 00:38:38,799 --> 00:38:42,428 Will you marry me? Oh, that's right. You did. 511 00:38:43,771 --> 00:38:47,036 Will you fix me that sandwich then? 512 00:38:47,141 --> 00:38:49,109 Hey, hey, hey, hey. 513 00:39:17,538 --> 00:39:19,506 Yeah. 514 00:39:48,035 --> 00:39:51,432 Hey, Kelly? Have you seen this item on the warehouse fire? 515 00:39:51,539 --> 00:39:54,406 Might be a firebug, arson ring. 516 00:39:55,409 --> 00:39:58,468 - You think there's anything to it? - There might be. 517 00:39:58,580 --> 00:40:02,072 Well, follow it up. 518 00:40:02,183 --> 00:40:04,947 - Is that an assignment? - Sure. 519 00:40:05,053 --> 00:40:07,078 Okay. 520 00:40:07,188 --> 00:40:11,056 Oh, Mac. I know there's nothing more to the Wiecek case. 521 00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:14,959 It's all washed up, but before you tackle this warehouse yarn... 522 00:40:15,063 --> 00:40:19,557 The warden called me this morning. Wiecek wants to see you again. 523 00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:24,434 - Well, for what? - I don't know. Maybe he wants to confess. 524 00:40:24,539 --> 00:40:27,838 Well, I was just up there. Don't I get time off for good behavior? 525 00:40:29,344 --> 00:40:32,279 Wiecek's been up there for 11 years, Mac. 526 00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:36,339 That cop's been buried longer than that. 527 00:41:01,576 --> 00:41:04,511 Hello, Wiecek. 528 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:11,018 Mr. McNeal. 529 00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:14,388 I sent for you to tell you that... 530 00:41:14,489 --> 00:41:16,480 I don't want you to write anymore... 531 00:41:16,591 --> 00:41:19,116 about me or my family. 532 00:41:19,227 --> 00:41:22,196 I've read what you've written. 533 00:41:22,297 --> 00:41:24,788 I've seen the pictures of my mother... 534 00:41:24,899 --> 00:41:27,697 my wife and my boy. 535 00:41:27,802 --> 00:41:29,793 We've poured our hearts out to you... 536 00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:32,168 - unashamed. - Well, you wanted help, didn't ya? 537 00:41:32,273 --> 00:41:35,174 That's the only way you can get people interested in the case. 538 00:41:35,276 --> 00:41:38,837 Nobody's gonna read a little two-line ad like your mother ran in the paper. 539 00:41:38,947 --> 00:41:41,711 A half a million people have been followin' this story. 540 00:41:41,816 --> 00:41:44,341 Now somebody might know the killers and get in touch with us. 541 00:41:44,452 --> 00:41:47,388 I don't want that kind of help. 542 00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:50,891 I'll stay here a thousand years. 543 00:41:50,993 --> 00:41:53,518 But you must not write anymore... 544 00:41:53,629 --> 00:41:57,531 about my wife and my mother and my boy. 545 00:41:57,633 --> 00:42:01,535 My mother is doing this for me, not to sell your papers. 546 00:42:01,637 --> 00:42:04,868 - Oh, now, wait a minute. Wiecek. - I made my wife divorce me... 547 00:42:04,974 --> 00:42:07,534 so my boy has a new name. 548 00:42:07,643 --> 00:42:11,704 Now you put his picture in the paper, spoiled everything for him. 549 00:42:11,814 --> 00:42:13,907 I don't know. I thought I was doin' a good job. 550 00:42:14,016 --> 00:42:18,043 No! This is writing without heart... 551 00:42:18,153 --> 00:42:20,121 without truth. 552 00:42:20,222 --> 00:42:22,281 Before, I thought maybe some crook lawyer... 553 00:42:22,391 --> 00:42:25,019 would try to get the $5,000 from my mother. 554 00:42:25,127 --> 00:42:27,527 But this, I never figured. 555 00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:29,598 Yes, I say it. 556 00:42:29,698 --> 00:42:34,294 I'll stay here. I'll stay here a thousand years. 557 00:42:34,403 --> 00:42:38,237 But never write anymore about my family. 558 00:42:38,340 --> 00:42:40,570 Leave them alone. 559 00:42:40,676 --> 00:42:43,543 Leave alone my wife and my boy. 560 00:42:54,757 --> 00:42:56,748 What do you make of that? 561 00:42:56,859 --> 00:43:00,727 Well, I guess he figured you pitched him some pretty low curves. 562 00:43:00,829 --> 00:43:03,821 Why, it was a story. I wrote what I saw. 563 00:43:03,933 --> 00:43:08,427 You know, up here every man claims to be innocent. 564 00:43:08,537 --> 00:43:11,938 But the prisoners are the harshest judges of themselves. 565 00:43:12,041 --> 00:43:15,499 And they believe we have only two men who don't belong here... 566 00:43:15,611 --> 00:43:18,774 Tomek Zaleska and Frank Wiecek. 567 00:43:20,883 --> 00:43:25,650 All right, Warden. Say, I wonder if you'll let me try something else? 568 00:43:25,754 --> 00:43:28,985 I'd like to talk to Tomek Zaleska. 569 00:43:29,091 --> 00:43:31,150 Okay. 570 00:43:57,052 --> 00:44:00,250 - I'd like to talk to Zaleska. - Yes, sir. 571 00:44:25,782 --> 00:44:27,841 Tomek, this is McNeal of the Times. 572 00:44:27,951 --> 00:44:30,818 - He'd like to talk to you. - Yes? 573 00:44:34,424 --> 00:44:37,587 Warden, would it be stretchin' the rules too much if I talk to him alone? 574 00:44:37,694 --> 00:44:41,994 - Well, no. Oh, go right ahead. - Thank you. 575 00:44:45,735 --> 00:44:48,954 Are you familiar with the work the Times is doin' for Wiecek? 576 00:44:49,034 --> 00:44:50,715 Yes, sir. 577 00:44:52,175 --> 00:44:57,238 Now, look, Tomek. We want to clear up this Bundy case one way or the other. 578 00:44:57,347 --> 00:45:00,009 We don't think Frank was in it with ya. 579 00:45:00,116 --> 00:45:04,348 Now, if you confess and name the man that was really with you that night... 580 00:45:04,454 --> 00:45:06,513 the Times will do everything in its power... 581 00:45:06,623 --> 00:45:08,750 to get ya a parole for turning state's evidence. 582 00:45:08,858 --> 00:45:12,589 The chances are you'll be outta this place in a few years. 583 00:45:14,998 --> 00:45:18,399 Now, what have you got to lose? You're in for life now. 584 00:45:18,501 --> 00:45:22,062 Come on. Tell us the truth. 585 00:45:25,742 --> 00:45:31,146 Sure. I could say I did it. 586 00:45:31,247 --> 00:45:35,047 Then maybe have a chance of getting out like you say. 587 00:45:35,151 --> 00:45:37,585 But if I confessed... 588 00:45:37,687 --> 00:45:40,622 who would I name as my partner? Joe Doakes? 589 00:45:40,724 --> 00:45:43,693 I couldn't make it stick for one minute. 590 00:45:46,396 --> 00:45:49,331 That's the trouble with being innocent. 591 00:45:49,432 --> 00:45:51,832 You don't know what really happened. 592 00:45:56,740 --> 00:45:59,436 I didn't do it. 593 00:45:59,542 --> 00:46:02,978 Me and Frank had nothin' to do with it. 594 00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:15,690 Okay, Tomek. 595 00:46:39,583 --> 00:46:41,551 Well? 596 00:46:44,088 --> 00:46:47,615 You must run a nice jail. This guy doesn't want to get out either. 597 00:46:50,494 --> 00:46:54,362 I'm gonna get this outta my system if I never write another line. 598 00:46:56,333 --> 00:46:59,666 Warden, do you think Wiecek'd talk to me again? 599 00:46:59,770 --> 00:47:01,965 Yeah. Yeah, I imagine he would. 600 00:47:02,072 --> 00:47:04,438 I'll take you over to the hospital. He works there. 601 00:47:22,326 --> 00:47:26,319 Frank, Mr. McNeal would like to talk to you again if it's all right with you. 602 00:47:36,974 --> 00:47:41,070 Look, Frank. I've decided to go on with this case. 603 00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:46,679 I'll slant the story your way. 604 00:47:46,784 --> 00:47:50,276 I also want you to know I'm still not convinced you're innocent. 605 00:47:50,387 --> 00:47:53,686 But I'm willin' to dig... get the facts. 606 00:47:53,791 --> 00:47:57,693 But remember this. If I ever catch ya lyin'... 607 00:47:57,795 --> 00:48:02,232 I'll blast you so hard, you won't even get a parole when your 33 years are up. 608 00:48:03,467 --> 00:48:05,958 Is it a deal? 609 00:48:06,070 --> 00:48:09,096 I've nothing to be afraid of. It's a deal. 610 00:48:10,241 --> 00:48:12,232 Okay, Frank. 611 00:48:12,343 --> 00:48:14,334 I want you to give me some information. 612 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,211 This, uh... This judge you told me about. 613 00:48:20,317 --> 00:48:22,878 You know, the one that died? 614 00:48:22,988 --> 00:48:26,219 Were there any witnesses when he told you he'd try to get you a new trial? 615 00:48:26,324 --> 00:48:29,919 - Yeah, there was a bailiff. - Uh-huh. 616 00:48:30,028 --> 00:48:32,656 - What was his name? - I don't know. 617 00:48:34,432 --> 00:48:37,458 Well, I'll find out. What was the name of your lawyer? 618 00:48:37,569 --> 00:48:41,471 - His name was Underwood. - Underwood. 619 00:48:41,573 --> 00:48:44,406 - Where does he practice? - He's disbarred now. 620 00:48:44,509 --> 00:48:47,967 That's great... a disbarred lawyer and a dead judge. 621 00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:52,015 - All right. What else? - There's Wanda Skutnik. 622 00:48:52,117 --> 00:48:54,244 It was she alone who put me where I am. 623 00:48:54,352 --> 00:48:56,616 She identified me. But the other two witnesses... 624 00:48:56,721 --> 00:48:59,246 Gruska and the mailman... said no. 625 00:48:59,357 --> 00:49:01,518 Then there was the police captain. 626 00:49:01,626 --> 00:49:04,459 He was the one who got Skutnik to say I was the man. 627 00:49:04,562 --> 00:49:07,087 He stood right alongside of her when she picked me out. 628 00:49:07,198 --> 00:49:10,361 - She was afraid of him. - What was his name? 629 00:49:10,468 --> 00:49:14,131 I never found out. He wasn't at the trial. 630 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,835 - Well, where can I find this Skutnik dame? - I don't know. 631 00:49:21,479 --> 00:49:24,937 - That's nice material. - That's all I got, but it's the truth. 632 00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,644 Would you be willing to take a lie-detector test? 633 00:49:28,787 --> 00:49:30,982 Mr. McNeal, for 11 years... 634 00:49:31,089 --> 00:49:33,148 I've been waiting for a chance to get at that box. 635 00:49:33,258 --> 00:49:36,227 You know what you're up against? 636 00:49:36,328 --> 00:49:38,660 If it turns out bad, you're cooked. 637 00:49:38,763 --> 00:49:42,221 If it turns out good, it's only Leonarde Keeler's professional opinion. 638 00:49:42,334 --> 00:49:45,792 - Doesn't count legally. - I'll take the test. 639 00:49:47,339 --> 00:49:49,330 Okay, I'll fix it up for ya. 640 00:50:03,955 --> 00:50:07,083 Listen, kid. Take it from me. 641 00:50:07,192 --> 00:50:09,888 Keep away from Keeler and that lie detector. 642 00:50:09,995 --> 00:50:12,327 - Oh, I'm not afraid of it. - That's what I said. 643 00:50:12,430 --> 00:50:16,491 Why, I had the cops, the state's attorney, even my own lawyer believin' in me. 644 00:50:16,601 --> 00:50:20,093 I was a cinch. Then they talked me into going up against that box. 645 00:50:20,205 --> 00:50:22,605 - Well, what happened? - What do you mean, what happened? 646 00:50:22,707 --> 00:50:25,335 I'm doin' life, ain't I? 647 00:50:38,324 --> 00:50:40,292 Well, the only thing the machine is for... 648 00:50:40,393 --> 00:50:43,556 is to record the emotional reactions of an individual. 649 00:50:43,662 --> 00:50:47,598 Uh, we place a blood pressure cuff about the upper arm of the subject. 650 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:50,692 And then, through the impulses to the timer system... 651 00:50:50,803 --> 00:50:54,261 record the variations in blood pressure and pulse on this stylus. 652 00:50:54,373 --> 00:50:57,638 Then the pneumograph is fastened about the subject's chest... 653 00:50:57,743 --> 00:51:00,940 and we record the changes in the respiration. 654 00:51:01,047 --> 00:51:03,948 And the electrodes fasten on the palm and the back of the hand... 655 00:51:04,050 --> 00:51:07,451 to record the changes in the electrical conductivity of the skin. 656 00:51:07,553 --> 00:51:12,616 It's a very sensitive criteria for emotional reaction, emotionality. 657 00:51:14,093 --> 00:51:16,789 Mr. Keeler's all ready for you, Frank. 658 00:51:16,896 --> 00:51:19,160 Sit down, Frank. 659 00:51:19,265 --> 00:51:21,597 Just take it easy and relax. 660 00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:24,498 I'll do the best I can, Mr. Keeler. 661 00:51:28,174 --> 00:51:30,142 Hello, Mac. 662 00:51:40,052 --> 00:51:41,587 What are you doin' here? 663 00:51:41,587 --> 00:51:42,519 What are you doin' here? 664 00:51:42,621 --> 00:51:46,955 I was drivin' out to Decatur to see my brother and... thought I'd stop by. 665 00:51:47,059 --> 00:51:49,289 I've never seen a lie test before. 666 00:51:49,395 --> 00:51:52,023 Decatur's out the other way. 667 00:51:52,131 --> 00:51:55,931 Yeah, well, I took the detour, the long way around. 668 00:51:56,035 --> 00:51:58,094 Yeah. Yeah. 669 00:52:06,412 --> 00:52:08,880 These are a pair of electrodes. 670 00:52:08,981 --> 00:52:11,211 I've clipped them to the palm and the back of your hand... 671 00:52:11,317 --> 00:52:14,377 to pick up the electrical changes in the nervous system. 672 00:52:14,487 --> 00:52:17,285 I'm gonna try an experimental test now. 673 00:52:17,389 --> 00:52:21,519 I want you to take one of these cards, look at it... 674 00:52:21,627 --> 00:52:25,222 remember the card that you chose, and then place it back in the group. 675 00:52:25,331 --> 00:52:28,528 I'm going to ask you one card at a time... 676 00:52:28,634 --> 00:52:31,296 and I want you to say "no" to each card that I ask... 677 00:52:31,403 --> 00:52:33,701 including the chosen card. 678 00:52:33,806 --> 00:52:35,933 - Do you understand? - Yes, sir. 679 00:52:39,245 --> 00:52:42,510 Now, just face forward. Don't watch the machine... 680 00:52:42,615 --> 00:52:44,881 and sit quietly as you can. 681 00:52:51,591 --> 00:52:54,185 Hey, what's he doin' that for? 682 00:52:54,294 --> 00:52:57,491 Oh, he's forcing him to lie so it'll show on the graph. 683 00:52:57,597 --> 00:53:01,294 Gives a good basis for judging Wiecek's reactions. 684 00:53:02,869 --> 00:53:07,272 - Did you choose the seven of clubs? - No. 685 00:53:09,976 --> 00:53:12,774 Did you take the three of spades? 686 00:53:12,879 --> 00:53:15,677 No. 687 00:53:19,886 --> 00:53:22,616 Did you take the queen of hearts? 688 00:53:22,722 --> 00:53:24,587 No. 689 00:53:31,998 --> 00:53:34,432 - Did you take the ace of hearts? - No. 690 00:53:39,673 --> 00:53:41,732 Did you take the five of diamonds? 691 00:53:43,076 --> 00:53:45,067 No. 692 00:53:55,855 --> 00:53:59,882 - Did you take the six of clubs? - No. 693 00:54:10,837 --> 00:54:13,328 You took the five of diamonds, Frank. 694 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,034 - Did you? - Yes, sir. 695 00:54:18,278 --> 00:54:23,079 Now, I have a prepared list of questions... I'll ask you. 696 00:54:23,183 --> 00:54:27,586 And I want you to answer all these questions now by "yes" or "no." 697 00:54:27,687 --> 00:54:32,488 And if you have anything to explain, do that after I ask you all the questions. 698 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,456 Just turn around and face forward. 699 00:54:36,563 --> 00:54:40,693 Sit as quietly as you can all the way through the test. 700 00:54:44,304 --> 00:54:48,001 Now, don't forget, just "yes" or "no" all the way through. 701 00:54:48,108 --> 00:54:51,134 - Yes. - Is your name Frank Wiecek? 702 00:54:51,244 --> 00:54:53,712 Yes. 703 00:55:00,554 --> 00:55:04,923 - Did you have breakfast this morning? - Yes. 704 00:55:08,963 --> 00:55:13,730 - Do you know Tomek Zaleska? - Yes. 705 00:55:19,774 --> 00:55:22,402 - You're 6 feet tall. aren't you? - I'm 5 foot 9. 706 00:55:22,510 --> 00:55:25,343 Just a minute now, Frank. Just "yes" or "no" all the way through. 707 00:55:25,446 --> 00:55:27,414 - I'm... I'm sorry, sir. - And sit quietly. 708 00:55:27,515 --> 00:55:31,474 - Yes, sir. - I'll have to begin again now... 709 00:55:31,585 --> 00:55:34,679 - and just ask you some of these questions. - Yeah, I'm sorry. 710 00:55:35,789 --> 00:55:39,726 - Is your name Frank Wiecek? - Yes. 711 00:55:46,434 --> 00:55:49,121 Were you in Wanda Skutnik's store on December 9? 712 00:55:49,201 --> 00:55:50,796 No. 713 00:56:11,859 --> 00:56:15,056 Were you home at the time of the robbery? 714 00:56:15,162 --> 00:56:17,494 Yes. 715 00:56:20,668 --> 00:56:25,298 That's all I'm going to ask you. Just sit quietly now for a few moments... 716 00:56:25,406 --> 00:56:27,840 - and I'll take it off. - Yes, sir. 717 00:56:37,184 --> 00:56:39,448 Well, we're all through, Frank. 718 00:56:54,235 --> 00:56:56,703 Good-bye, and I'll probably see you later. 719 00:56:58,906 --> 00:57:01,534 See you later, Frank. 720 00:57:08,884 --> 00:57:13,218 - What's the verdict? - Well, there's the record. 721 00:57:17,726 --> 00:57:20,456 What was that? What's that jump there? 722 00:57:20,561 --> 00:57:24,865 Well, he reacted in all three curves... uh, very specifically. 723 00:57:24,966 --> 00:57:26,457 He lied to that question. 724 00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:28,639 Is that where you asked him if he killed Bundy? 725 00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:30,057 No. 726 00:57:30,472 --> 00:57:32,440 "Are you married?" 727 00:57:33,775 --> 00:57:36,175 Well, he... But he didn't lie. 728 00:57:36,278 --> 00:57:40,214 - He isn't married. He's divorced. - Yes, but he's a Catholic. 729 00:57:40,315 --> 00:57:42,306 And he still thinks he's married. 730 00:57:42,417 --> 00:57:44,715 And he feels within himself that he's married. 731 00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:46,981 And so, he reacted in deception. 732 00:57:47,088 --> 00:57:49,556 But do you think he lied about anything else? 733 00:57:49,658 --> 00:57:52,218 Well, we've run so many records today... four or five of them... 734 00:57:52,327 --> 00:57:54,522 and I'd like to take a little time to go over them... 735 00:57:54,629 --> 00:57:57,564 and compare one record with another and the reactions. 736 00:57:57,666 --> 00:58:00,066 And, well, I'll call you later on this afternoon... 737 00:58:00,168 --> 00:58:02,136 - and let you know. - All right. 738 00:58:56,191 --> 00:58:58,659 Hiya, McNeal. What can I do for you? 739 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,955 Say, Larson, I'd like to check on the date of arrest... 740 00:59:01,062 --> 00:59:03,758 of a fellow by the name of Frank Wiecek. 741 00:59:03,865 --> 00:59:07,130 - You mean, the cop-killer? - I'm just trying to do a job. 742 00:59:07,235 --> 00:59:09,260 I'm afraid I can't help you, McNeal. 743 00:59:09,371 --> 00:59:12,534 Our arrest books for 1932 are in the warehouse. 744 00:59:12,641 --> 00:59:14,609 They're not available. 745 00:59:17,812 --> 00:59:20,509 What do you want me to do, go to the commissioner? 746 00:59:20,616 --> 00:59:23,449 You know where you can go, as far as I'm concerned. 747 00:59:42,939 --> 00:59:44,907 Here it is. 748 00:59:45,007 --> 00:59:48,568 "Booked for murder December 23." 749 01:00:05,083 --> 01:00:08,855 - That make ya happy? - One of the things I was lookin' for. 750 01:00:08,965 --> 01:00:11,900 He was booked on the 23rd. 751 01:00:12,001 --> 01:00:14,731 Now, if I could just find out if he was arrested before then. 752 01:00:14,837 --> 01:00:16,964 What difference would that make? 753 01:00:17,073 --> 01:00:19,166 Well, if he was arrested before the 23rd... 754 01:00:19,275 --> 01:00:22,039 it'd prove that this Skutnik dame could've seen him a couple of times... 755 01:00:22,144 --> 01:00:24,169 before she identified him. 756 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,046 Captain Norris of the New City Precinct handled the Skutnik identification. 757 01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:30,675 He never operated that way. 758 01:00:30,786 --> 01:00:34,415 Captain Norris, huh? 759 01:00:34,523 --> 01:00:38,323 Say, let me see the arrest books for December 1932, will ya? 760 01:00:38,427 --> 01:00:41,590 - I can't help you on that. - All I'm trying to do is to find out... 761 01:00:41,697 --> 01:00:45,155 whether this fellow Wiecek is a cop-killer or not. 762 01:00:45,267 --> 01:00:49,397 Back during Prohibition, the police department got tough when a cop got killed. 763 01:00:49,505 --> 01:00:51,871 Now you're talkin' like the guy in the street. 764 01:00:51,974 --> 01:00:56,001 Always thinks we're runnin' around with rubber hoses beatin' up innocent people. 765 01:00:56,112 --> 01:00:59,741 Look. You seem to think the cops framed Wiecek. 766 01:00:59,849 --> 01:01:02,113 You're the one that's doing the framing. 767 01:01:02,218 --> 01:01:05,278 You're framing the best police department in the country. 768 01:01:05,388 --> 01:01:07,549 Bundy was a good cop and a good man. 769 01:01:07,657 --> 01:01:10,057 Why don't you write about his wife and son? 770 01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:13,686 And about the other 357 cops killed in the last 20 years? 771 01:01:13,796 --> 01:01:16,264 Back in 1932, they did a lot of things. 772 01:01:16,365 --> 01:01:19,027 - Maybe they did, but they weren't always wrong. - How do you know? 773 01:01:19,135 --> 01:01:21,865 Were you in the division at the time? 774 01:01:21,971 --> 01:01:24,633 No. All I can say is... 775 01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:28,198 it's awful hard for a man like me to be fair to a cop-killer. 776 01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:30,871 And supposing he isn't a cop-killer? 777 01:01:33,016 --> 01:01:35,280 Maybe I ought to help ya, but I just can't. 778 01:01:35,385 --> 01:01:38,377 You've helped me plenty. Don't worry. 779 01:01:38,488 --> 01:01:40,456 Captain Norris, huh? 780 01:01:40,557 --> 01:01:43,549 Had charge of the Skutnik identification, huh? 781 01:01:43,660 --> 01:01:46,288 Well, it looks like he's sort of mixed up in this himself. 782 01:01:46,396 --> 01:01:49,729 Maybe I'd better go over and talk to him. 783 01:01:49,833 --> 01:01:52,529 You'd better take a shovel with ya. 784 01:01:52,636 --> 01:01:55,571 You'll have to dig him up. He died in '38. 785 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,801 - Hi. - Hi, Mac. Off your beat, ain't ya? 786 01:02:32,909 --> 01:02:35,139 Yeah, yeah, sort of. I need some help. 787 01:02:35,245 --> 01:02:38,942 Nah. Lay off of me, Mac. The word's gone out to keep away from you. 788 01:02:39,049 --> 01:02:42,143 I've done you a lot of favors, Matt. 789 01:02:42,252 --> 01:02:45,016 Is there anyplace I can find some records... 790 01:02:45,122 --> 01:02:48,683 of people that come in here and look at the police show-ups? 791 01:02:48,792 --> 01:02:51,454 Material witnesses. Somebody might have been subpoenaed... 792 01:02:51,561 --> 01:02:53,529 to come in here and identify Wiecek. 793 01:02:53,630 --> 01:02:56,224 If we kept that kind of stuff, the books would fill Soldier's Field. 794 01:02:56,333 --> 01:02:58,699 Would there be any photographs, anything like that? 795 01:02:58,802 --> 01:03:00,861 We don't take no pictures in station houses. 796 01:03:00,971 --> 01:03:03,804 Press boys might get a shot of the witnesses on the steps... 797 01:03:03,907 --> 01:03:05,875 but never inside. 798 01:03:05,976 --> 01:03:08,069 Now, look, Mac, if I'm seen talking to you... 799 01:03:08,178 --> 01:03:10,578 I'm gonna be back walking my old beat. 800 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,808 Why not be a good guy and don't be here when I get back. 801 01:03:13,917 --> 01:03:17,751 - Can I use your phone? - Yeah. Use that line. Don't touch those. 802 01:03:32,803 --> 01:03:35,829 Uh, this is McNeal. Give me Kelly. 803 01:03:39,042 --> 01:03:41,910 Say, check through our files and see if any of our boys took pictures... 804 01:03:42,013 --> 01:03:44,345 at the Wiecek arrest in 1932. 805 01:03:44,448 --> 01:03:48,043 Get someone to check the Tribune and the rest of the papers. And listen, Kelly. 806 01:03:48,152 --> 01:03:51,280 A photographer takes maybe 10 shots, prints one of them. 807 01:03:51,389 --> 01:03:53,380 I want to see the other nine. 808 01:03:53,491 --> 01:03:56,722 And listen. The Herald Examiner... 809 01:03:56,828 --> 01:03:59,023 They were still in business then, weren't they? 810 01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:01,360 This is just their kind of picture. 811 01:04:01,465 --> 01:04:03,501 I'll check on that myself. 812 01:04:11,509 --> 01:04:14,808 Hey, uh, I just thought of something. 813 01:04:14,912 --> 01:04:16,971 See ya later. 814 01:04:25,869 --> 01:04:29,919 - New City Precinct. - This is McNeal over at headquarters. 815 01:04:31,329 --> 01:04:34,093 You got the book in the Wiecek arrest, 1932? 816 01:04:34,198 --> 01:04:36,632 Yeah. But we've been told to pull it out of the files. 817 01:04:36,734 --> 01:04:39,862 I'll drop over and see it. Okay, be right over. 818 01:04:39,971 --> 01:04:41,734 Right. 819 01:05:06,530 --> 01:05:09,966 Yeah, I'm McNeal. I just phoned you from headquarters. 820 01:05:10,067 --> 01:05:12,126 You got that book on the Wiecek arrest? 821 01:05:12,236 --> 01:05:14,261 Come in. 822 01:05:23,814 --> 01:05:25,873 Thank you. 823 01:06:25,937 --> 01:06:27,905 What did you find? 824 01:06:28,006 --> 01:06:32,204 Wiecek was arrested in the morning of the 22nd. 825 01:06:32,310 --> 01:06:34,938 But he wasn't booked until the afternoon of the 23rd. 826 01:06:35,047 --> 01:06:37,413 - Norris took his time, didn't he? - What did you say your name was? 827 01:06:37,516 --> 01:06:39,507 - McNeal. - What division? 828 01:06:39,618 --> 01:06:41,643 I'm McNeal of the Chicago Times. 829 01:06:43,221 --> 01:06:45,212 This is confidential information. 830 01:06:45,323 --> 01:06:47,416 This is public information, and I'm entitled to use it. 831 01:06:47,526 --> 01:06:50,359 We've got our orders. You got a beef, you talk to the state's attorney's office. 832 01:06:50,462 --> 01:06:52,623 That's a good idea. I think I will. In the meantime... 833 01:06:52,731 --> 01:06:54,995 I wouldn't let anything happen to that book if I were you. 834 01:07:10,482 --> 01:07:12,507 Mac. Hey, Mac. 835 01:07:17,155 --> 01:07:19,214 Hey, this is hitting him pretty hard, isn't it? 836 01:07:19,324 --> 01:07:21,485 I haven't even started on him yet. 837 01:07:21,593 --> 01:07:24,021 I think this whole thing stinks. 838 01:07:26,531 --> 01:07:29,295 Kelly speaking. 839 01:07:29,401 --> 01:07:32,063 Yeah. Yes, sir. 840 01:07:32,170 --> 01:07:34,138 Right away. 841 01:07:34,239 --> 01:07:36,230 That's the boss. He wants us both. 842 01:07:36,341 --> 01:07:38,400 Let's go. Let's go. 843 01:07:52,624 --> 01:07:55,320 Go right in, Mr. Kelly. Mr. Palmer's waiting. 844 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,861 Mr. Kelly, Mr. McNeal, I believe you know the commissioner. 845 01:08:04,971 --> 01:08:07,638 Mr. Faxon, from the state's attorney's office. 846 01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:09,816 And this is Robert Winston, representing the governor. 847 01:08:09,906 --> 01:08:13,173 - How do you do, sir? - Of course, you know Mr. Burns. 848 01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:19,017 Mr. Kelly, these gentlemen object to our handling of the Wiecek story. 849 01:08:19,118 --> 01:08:23,282 Mr. Kelly, we feel that the Times, through you and Mr. McNeal... 850 01:08:23,389 --> 01:08:26,984 is slinging mud on one of the finest police departments in the United States. 851 01:08:27,093 --> 01:08:29,118 And specifically, we object to your efforts... 852 01:08:29,228 --> 01:08:31,856 to arouse sympathy for a man who killed a police officer. 853 01:08:31,964 --> 01:08:34,524 We'd just like to point out, gentlemen... 854 01:08:34,634 --> 01:08:37,296 that Frank Wiecek was convicted by a jury. 855 01:08:37,403 --> 01:08:39,963 His case was reviewed by the Supreme Court... 856 01:08:40,072 --> 01:08:42,040 and the conviction was upheld. 857 01:08:42,141 --> 01:08:45,440 All these legal authorities believed in Frank Wiecek's guilt. 858 01:08:45,545 --> 01:08:49,447 Well, a long time ago, a lot of people believed the world was flat. 859 01:08:49,549 --> 01:08:52,416 Well, at this late date, do you wish to impugn... 860 01:08:52,518 --> 01:08:54,611 the integrity of the jury and the court? 861 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,018 If they were wrong, yes. 862 01:08:57,123 --> 01:08:59,057 Back in 1932... 863 01:08:59,158 --> 01:09:02,184 a steady stream of convictions made good publicity. 864 01:09:02,295 --> 01:09:04,525 Remember? 865 01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:07,724 Frank Wiecek was found guilty, and he belongs where he is. 866 01:09:07,834 --> 01:09:10,428 Were you in the state's attorney's office in 1932? 867 01:09:10,536 --> 01:09:14,768 Why, uh, yes, I was, but I didn't have anything to do with the Wiecek case. 868 01:09:14,874 --> 01:09:17,809 I have no ax to grind, Mr. McNeal. 869 01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:21,869 But I believe you're unnecessarily discrediting this regime. 870 01:09:21,981 --> 01:09:24,916 Furthermore, your stories may be holding out false hope of a pardon... 871 01:09:25,017 --> 01:09:27,008 to both Frank Wiecek and his mother. 872 01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:29,587 - I'm not so sure it's false. - We are. 873 01:09:29,689 --> 01:09:33,386 Look, up until now, what we've printed was based on interview and investigation. 874 01:09:33,492 --> 01:09:36,052 We've invented nothing, and we don't intend to. 875 01:09:36,162 --> 01:09:39,791 A great deal of emotion and color can be lent to simple facts. 876 01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:43,426 The governor feels this entire matter is undermining law and order. 877 01:09:43,536 --> 01:09:47,404 But Wiecek is innocent! It'd be criminal for us to stop now! 878 01:09:47,506 --> 01:09:49,474 Well, you must remember, Mr. McNeal... 879 01:09:49,575 --> 01:09:52,203 that another political party was in power at that time. 880 01:09:52,311 --> 01:09:55,405 We're not to blame, but the public tars us with your brush. 881 01:09:55,514 --> 01:09:59,109 You can't destroy the confidence we've built up in this regime just to sell newspapers. 882 01:09:59,218 --> 01:10:01,618 It may have started like that, but it isn't that way anymore. 883 01:10:01,721 --> 01:10:05,213 Now, look, gentlemen, believe me, this man is not guilty. 884 01:10:05,324 --> 01:10:07,292 I don't know if he's guilty or not... 885 01:10:07,393 --> 01:10:09,725 but we don't want this police force persecuted anymore. 886 01:10:09,829 --> 01:10:13,663 Just a minute, gentlemen. The governor wants this cleared up. 887 01:10:13,766 --> 01:10:16,133 We're not asking you to forget the man if he's innocent... 888 01:10:16,236 --> 01:10:19,899 but we don't want this dragged on and on just to promote circulation. 889 01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:24,000 We have a proposition to offer you to settle this once and for all. 890 01:10:24,111 --> 01:10:27,410 I can suggest to the governor that he set up a hearing in the Pardon Board. 891 01:10:27,514 --> 01:10:30,312 If Wiecek is exonerated, he'll get a pardon. 892 01:10:30,417 --> 01:10:33,853 But if you can't clear him, you're to drop this matter once and for all! 893 01:10:33,954 --> 01:10:35,945 Is that a deal? 894 01:10:38,058 --> 01:10:39,992 What do you say, Mac? 895 01:10:42,396 --> 01:10:44,660 It's a deal if Mr. Palmer says so. 896 01:10:48,802 --> 01:10:51,032 Okay. 897 01:10:51,138 --> 01:10:53,129 It's a deal. 898 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,437 I'll ask the governor to set up a special hearing next week. 899 01:10:56,543 --> 01:10:59,011 - Are you ready to accept that? - Yes, I am. 900 01:10:59,112 --> 01:11:02,604 There's just one thing, Mr. McNeal. 901 01:11:02,716 --> 01:11:05,651 If you go before a pardon board and they turn him down... 902 01:11:05,752 --> 01:11:07,743 it'll go on Wiecek's record. 903 01:11:07,854 --> 01:11:10,015 Then when he's eligible for parole... 904 01:11:10,123 --> 01:11:12,318 that record may hurt his chances. 905 01:11:12,426 --> 01:11:15,953 Now, mind you, there's no regulation... 906 01:11:16,063 --> 01:11:18,156 there's no law... 907 01:11:18,265 --> 01:11:21,359 but the very fact that he was investigated by the Pardon Board... 908 01:11:21,468 --> 01:11:23,459 and turned down... 909 01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:27,006 may have a prejudicial effect upon his application. 910 01:11:27,107 --> 01:11:30,133 What you're doing is gambling with Wiecek's parole. 911 01:11:30,243 --> 01:11:32,837 Well, that's a chance we'll have to take. 912 01:11:32,946 --> 01:11:36,245 Well, gentlemen, that's settled, then. We're agreed. 913 01:11:36,350 --> 01:11:39,808 Thank you very much, gentlemen. We'll live up to our end of the bargain. 914 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,354 - Good-bye. Good-bye. - Good-bye, sir. 915 01:11:42,456 --> 01:11:44,481 Good-bye. 916 01:11:52,466 --> 01:11:56,732 Well, you two seem to be satisfied, but Mr. Burns doesn't seem to be. 917 01:11:56,837 --> 01:11:58,896 I'm not. 918 01:12:02,476 --> 01:12:06,207 As your attorney, I think you've made a bad deal. 919 01:12:06,313 --> 01:12:08,577 While I have read the transcript of this case... 920 01:12:08,682 --> 01:12:13,016 and am familiar with some of the things Mr. McNeal found... 921 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,181 I am not at all certain that we have sufficient evidence to obtain a pardon. 922 01:12:17,290 --> 01:12:20,350 But you haven't seen all of the evidence yet, Mr. Burns. 923 01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:22,553 - What, for instance? - Well, in the first place... 924 01:12:22,662 --> 01:12:24,630 I've talked to the bailiff of the court. 925 01:12:24,731 --> 01:12:28,634 He corroborated Frank's statement that the judge promised him a new trial. 926 01:12:28,736 --> 01:12:30,899 What basis did the judge have for making that promise? 927 01:12:30,979 --> 01:12:32,399 - I don't know. - If he made it. 928 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,237 He made it, all right. Here's an affidavit from the bailiff. 929 01:12:35,343 --> 01:12:37,470 That's not proof. It's inconclusive. 930 01:12:37,578 --> 01:12:39,739 All right. All right. Forget about that. 931 01:12:39,847 --> 01:12:43,749 I have a lie-detector test and Keeler's sworn statement that the fellow is innocent. 932 01:12:43,851 --> 01:12:46,046 Inadmissible. 933 01:12:46,154 --> 01:12:48,486 Gruska and Decker, the other two witnesses in the crime... 934 01:12:48,589 --> 01:12:50,648 maintain that Wiecek is not the man. 935 01:12:50,758 --> 01:12:53,249 And they also testified that this Wanda Skutnik... 936 01:12:53,361 --> 01:12:55,454 couldn't possible have recognized anybody. 937 01:12:55,563 --> 01:12:58,157 Well, have you found her? What does she say? 938 01:12:58,266 --> 01:13:01,997 Gruska and Decker contradict it. But it's inconclusive evidence. 939 01:13:02,103 --> 01:13:04,799 Now, what new admissible evidence have you? 940 01:13:04,906 --> 01:13:07,466 Well, there's a whole lot of new stuff! 941 01:13:07,575 --> 01:13:10,476 The state's attorney's office tried to keep me out of the record books. 942 01:13:10,578 --> 01:13:12,637 That's the reason they had that fellow Faxon up here. 943 01:13:12,747 --> 01:13:17,184 And another thing... Why is this Wanda Skutnik dame keeping undercover? 944 01:13:17,285 --> 01:13:19,344 A couple of mobsters might have killed that cop... 945 01:13:19,454 --> 01:13:21,445 and threatened her for not playing ball... 946 01:13:21,556 --> 01:13:23,990 or maybe she's trying to keep in good with the law, I don't know. 947 01:13:24,092 --> 01:13:27,118 - She ran a speakeasy. - Now, look here, McNeal. I'm an attorney. 948 01:13:27,228 --> 01:13:30,925 I know what it is to go up before the Pardon Board. They go on facts. 949 01:13:31,032 --> 01:13:33,626 Facts? Okay. I'll give you something better than facts. 950 01:13:33,734 --> 01:13:36,134 I'll give you a picture. Take a look at that. 951 01:13:36,237 --> 01:13:41,072 Now, Wanda Skutnik testified that she didn't see Wiecek from the time of the murder... 952 01:13:41,175 --> 01:13:45,373 until the time she identified him on the 23rd of December. 953 01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:50,508 Now, Frank maintains that she did see him several times on the 22nd of December... 954 01:13:50,618 --> 01:13:53,985 when the cops were taking him around from station to station. 955 01:13:54,088 --> 01:13:56,579 All right. That bears out Frank's story right there. 956 01:13:56,691 --> 01:14:00,457 There's a picture of Frank and Wanda going in to one of the stations. 957 01:14:02,563 --> 01:14:04,531 Where'd you get this, Mac? 958 01:14:04,632 --> 01:14:07,123 I got it out of the files of the old Herald Examiner. 959 01:14:07,235 --> 01:14:10,068 Kinda figured they'd go for a picture like that. 960 01:14:10,171 --> 01:14:12,162 When was this taken? 961 01:14:12,273 --> 01:14:15,709 - Well, obviously on the 22nd. - Oh, now look here, McNeal... 962 01:14:15,810 --> 01:14:18,870 you can't just say that obviously it was taken then. 963 01:14:18,980 --> 01:14:21,039 - You have to prove it. - Well, I have the photograph... 964 01:14:21,149 --> 01:14:22,794 When you go before the Pardon Board, 965 01:14:22,874 --> 01:14:25,278 - the burden of proof is with you. - But the picture... 966 01:14:25,358 --> 01:14:29,356 After all, it could have been taken after she identified him. 967 01:14:32,593 --> 01:14:34,720 McNeal, you've done a wonderful job... 968 01:14:34,829 --> 01:14:37,059 in assembling all this evidence. 969 01:14:37,165 --> 01:14:41,193 But the law of the State of Illinois requires only one eyewitness... 970 01:14:41,303 --> 01:14:44,170 for an identification and conviction. 971 01:14:44,273 --> 01:14:47,401 So far, that witness has not altered her statement... 972 01:14:47,509 --> 01:14:49,568 and that fact still stands. 973 01:14:49,678 --> 01:14:53,114 Mr. Palmer, in view of this, I'm afraid I must recommend... 974 01:14:53,215 --> 01:14:55,581 that you permit me to get in touch with those gentlemen... 975 01:14:55,684 --> 01:14:57,675 who were just here, and ask for more time... 976 01:14:57,786 --> 01:15:00,254 or until I've had an opportunity to go over the case. 977 01:15:01,355 --> 01:15:03,787 Then your advice is to call the whole thing off. 978 01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:04,888 That's right. 979 01:15:04,968 --> 01:15:07,054 Oh, now, Mr. Palmer, I realize that Mr. Burns... 980 01:15:07,162 --> 01:15:09,130 knows more about the law than I do. 981 01:15:09,231 --> 01:15:11,859 But I want to tell you some things about this case you don't know. 982 01:15:11,967 --> 01:15:14,868 I went into this thing believing nothing. I was skeptical. 983 01:15:14,970 --> 01:15:18,371 I'd figured Wiecek is using his mother to spring him. 984 01:15:18,473 --> 01:15:20,634 But I've changed my mind. 985 01:15:20,742 --> 01:15:24,803 This man is innocent, Mr. Palmer. I know that without any doubt. 986 01:15:24,913 --> 01:15:28,974 Now, it's true I haven't found Wanda Skutnik, but I want a chance to find her. 987 01:15:29,084 --> 01:15:31,211 I want a chance to get this guy out of jail. 988 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,050 Now, if you call off this hearing, I'll never get that chance again. 989 01:15:35,390 --> 01:15:37,381 The bargain stands. 990 01:15:37,492 --> 01:15:39,892 Thank you, sir. 991 01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:44,355 Just a minute, McNeal. 992 01:15:44,466 --> 01:15:47,560 Let me give you one last piece of advice. 993 01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:49,796 Even if you do find this Wanda Skutnik... 994 01:15:49,905 --> 01:15:52,305 I don't believe she'll ever change her testimony. 995 01:15:52,407 --> 01:15:56,173 There's only one thing for you to do... discredit her, prove she's a liar. 996 01:15:56,278 --> 01:15:58,269 Otherwise, you're wasting your time. 997 01:16:15,063 --> 01:16:17,293 Just great. Great speech, Mac. 998 01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:19,424 Now you've really got to find Wanda Skutnik. 999 01:16:19,534 --> 01:16:21,798 Now, listen, Kelly. I haven't been wasting my time. 1000 01:16:21,903 --> 01:16:23,962 I know a lot about Wanda Skutnik. 1001 01:16:24,072 --> 01:16:27,872 She used to run a speakeasy. She's probably still in the liquor business. 1002 01:16:27,976 --> 01:16:30,103 She's Polish, and she used to run around... 1003 01:16:30,212 --> 01:16:32,203 with a guy that works in the stockyards. 1004 01:16:32,314 --> 01:16:34,373 Don't let your enthusiasm get you into trouble. 1005 01:16:34,483 --> 01:16:37,611 - The stockyard's a tough neighborhood. - Don't scare me, Kelly. 1006 01:16:37,719 --> 01:16:40,279 - Can you speak Polish? - No, I can't speak Polish. 1007 01:16:40,389 --> 01:16:44,086 But if I have to learn to speak Polish to find her, I'm starting right now. 1008 01:17:18,895 --> 01:17:21,022 What'll you have? 1009 01:17:21,130 --> 01:17:24,065 Say, did you ever see that woman before? 1010 01:17:24,167 --> 01:17:26,692 Her name's Wanda Skutnik. 1011 01:17:26,803 --> 01:17:29,704 - You a copper? - No, no. No, no. 1012 01:17:29,806 --> 01:17:31,774 Her uncle died and left her a little money. 1013 01:17:31,874 --> 01:17:35,207 I hear she's remarried. I'm having a hard time finding her. 1014 01:17:35,311 --> 01:17:38,439 Money, huh? 1015 01:17:38,548 --> 01:17:41,574 I don't know. I'll see if the boys in the back room know about her. 1016 01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:49,533 Wanda Skutnik? 1017 01:18:03,473 --> 01:18:05,566 Much obliged. 1018 01:18:05,675 --> 01:18:07,700 No problem. 1019 01:18:22,492 --> 01:18:25,086 McNeal divided the district back of the yards... 1020 01:18:25,194 --> 01:18:27,424 into blocks and sections... 1021 01:18:27,530 --> 01:18:32,365 and for days and nights, systematically combed every beer parlor and saloon. 1022 01:19:36,834 --> 01:19:40,031 - Give me a bourbon. - Yes, sir. 1023 01:20:21,812 --> 01:20:24,542 - What'll ya have? - Give me some rye, will you? 1024 01:20:31,555 --> 01:20:35,013 Say, did you ever see that woman around here? 1025 01:20:35,125 --> 01:20:37,355 No, I don't think I have. 1026 01:20:37,461 --> 01:20:39,725 Her name's Skutnik... Wanda Skutnik. 1027 01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:43,095 A lot of women come in here, but I don't know 'em by name. 1028 01:21:06,223 --> 01:21:09,317 - Your name McNeal? - Yeah. Why? 1029 01:21:09,426 --> 01:21:12,624 I've been wondering when you'd hit this neighborhood. 1030 01:21:12,730 --> 01:21:15,426 I've been reading your stories in the paper. 1031 01:21:16,935 --> 01:21:19,961 - About Wanda Skutnik? - Yeah. 1032 01:21:20,071 --> 01:21:23,006 - You know her? - Used to. 1033 01:21:23,107 --> 01:21:27,305 - Used to be good friends. - You know where I could find her now? 1034 01:21:27,412 --> 01:21:30,438 - I might. - Where? 1035 01:21:30,548 --> 01:21:34,678 - What's in it for me? - What do you want? 1036 01:21:34,786 --> 01:21:37,380 I owe him a buck, seventy-five. 1037 01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:40,849 Okay. 1038 01:21:42,627 --> 01:21:44,618 Where is she? 1039 01:21:44,729 --> 01:21:47,698 - I ought to have one to talk on. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1040 01:21:47,799 --> 01:21:51,166 Hey. Couple of drinks here, huh? 1041 01:21:51,269 --> 01:21:53,635 What happens to Wanda if you find her? 1042 01:21:53,738 --> 01:21:56,298 Oh, not a thing. I'm just gonna ask her some questions. 1043 01:21:56,407 --> 01:21:59,061 There ain't no warrant out after her or nothin' like that? 1044 01:21:59,141 --> 01:22:02,872 No, nothing like that. Leave the bottle here, too, will ya? 1045 01:22:09,253 --> 01:22:12,051 She hadn't ought to have thrown them bricks at me. 1046 01:22:13,891 --> 01:22:17,292 - You know Honore Street? - Yeah, yeah. Sure. 1047 01:22:18,663 --> 01:22:21,154 You go down there. 1048 01:22:21,265 --> 01:22:24,894 - 725. - 725. 1049 01:22:25,003 --> 01:22:28,461 - What's her name now? - Siskovich. 1050 01:22:28,573 --> 01:22:31,201 Wanda Siskovich. 1051 01:22:31,309 --> 01:22:33,903 But don't tell her I said so. 1052 01:22:34,012 --> 01:22:36,105 She's got a bad temper. 1053 01:22:36,214 --> 01:22:39,342 I don't want her throwin' no more bricks at me. 1054 01:22:39,450 --> 01:22:42,817 Won't tell her a word. There you are. Thanks. 1055 01:24:43,375 --> 01:24:45,400 Come in. 1056 01:25:05,998 --> 01:25:08,159 - Who are you? - I'm from the Times. 1057 01:25:08,267 --> 01:25:12,761 - Get out of here! - So you're Wanda Skutnik. 1058 01:25:12,871 --> 01:25:16,170 Yeah. 1059 01:25:16,275 --> 01:25:19,369 I've been wonderin' when you'd show up. 1060 01:25:19,478 --> 01:25:22,470 Now, look, lady, I'm not gonna give you any trouble. 1061 01:25:22,581 --> 01:25:25,049 I'd just like to ask you a few questions. 1062 01:25:28,854 --> 01:25:30,981 You want to cry in my beer? 1063 01:25:32,958 --> 01:25:34,984 All I want to know is this: 1064 01:25:35,094 --> 01:25:37,995 Is there any possibility that you might have been mistaken... 1065 01:25:38,097 --> 01:25:40,531 when you identified Wiecek? 1066 01:25:40,633 --> 01:25:42,533 No. 1067 01:25:42,635 --> 01:25:46,036 Well, if you're so positive, we can prove it. Will you take a lie test? 1068 01:25:46,139 --> 01:25:50,473 A lie test? You think I'm crazy? 1069 01:25:50,577 --> 01:25:52,568 Look, will you give me a sworn statement? 1070 01:25:52,679 --> 01:25:54,909 I did my swearin' in court. 1071 01:25:55,014 --> 01:25:57,448 How many times did you see Frank before you identified him? 1072 01:25:57,550 --> 01:25:58,195 Never. 1073 01:25:58,275 --> 01:25:59,751 You didn't see him before the police show up? 1074 01:25:59,853 --> 01:26:01,912 No. Only when he killed the cop. 1075 01:26:02,021 --> 01:26:04,285 Look, I said all I got to say. That's all there is, see? 1076 01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:06,915 What do you mean, "That's all there is"? There's a lot more than that. 1077 01:26:07,026 --> 01:26:09,620 This kid's been up in the pen for 11 years. 1078 01:26:09,729 --> 01:26:13,221 Now, look. I got to go before the Pardon Board day after tomorrow. 1079 01:26:13,333 --> 01:26:15,665 Frank's got a good chance to get off if you help him. 1080 01:26:15,768 --> 01:26:17,759 I got no reason to help Wiecek... 1081 01:26:17,871 --> 01:26:20,066 and I got no reason to help you, neither. 1082 01:26:20,173 --> 01:26:23,734 You're the one that wrote them lies about me. I've been thinking of suing for libel! 1083 01:26:23,843 --> 01:26:26,277 That's the reason I wrote 'em. I called you a liar... 1084 01:26:26,379 --> 01:26:28,438 and a bootlegger and a finger woman. 1085 01:26:28,548 --> 01:26:30,413 I insulted you every way I could think of. 1086 01:26:30,516 --> 01:26:32,643 And I'm gonna keep on doin' it, see? 1087 01:26:32,752 --> 01:26:34,743 Go ahead and sue us for libel. 1088 01:26:34,854 --> 01:26:36,879 I'd just like to get you up on a witness stand under oath... 1089 01:26:36,990 --> 01:26:39,958 Yeah, and you still wouldn't get nothin' out of me! 1090 01:26:43,463 --> 01:26:45,954 Why you bother her? 1091 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,929 Put that down! 1092 01:26:49,035 --> 01:26:51,333 You want to go to jail? 1093 01:26:54,307 --> 01:26:56,571 Now, you get out of here! 1094 01:26:58,344 --> 01:27:00,437 Now, listen, maybe there's something you didn't think of. 1095 01:27:00,546 --> 01:27:04,983 - There's a $5,000 reward, you know. - Five thousand dollars! 1096 01:27:05,084 --> 01:27:08,281 And what's more, you don't have to do anything about it. 1097 01:27:08,388 --> 01:27:12,654 Just tell me enough to clear things up, get Wiecek out, and you get the 5,000. 1098 01:27:15,061 --> 01:27:17,427 - So what do I gotta do? - Just tell the truth. 1099 01:27:17,530 --> 01:27:19,964 Who got you to identify him? Who are you afraid of? 1100 01:27:20,066 --> 01:27:22,034 Nobody. Nothin'. Nobody. 1101 01:27:22,135 --> 01:27:24,126 I ain't afraid of nobody, and I ain't got nothin' to say. 1102 01:27:24,237 --> 01:27:27,001 Wanda, it's $5,000. 1103 01:27:27,106 --> 01:27:30,837 Shut up! Now, you get out of here! 1104 01:27:30,944 --> 01:27:33,003 You ain't gonna get nowhere. 1105 01:27:33,112 --> 01:27:35,979 I identified him. I told the truth. It's him! 1106 01:27:36,082 --> 01:27:40,018 I ain't never gonna change my mind. It's him! Now, get out of here! 1107 01:27:41,888 --> 01:27:43,101 Boris! 1108 01:28:30,771 --> 01:28:33,604 Well, Mr. Burns has given us a clear picture of the situation. 1109 01:28:33,707 --> 01:28:36,267 If Wanda Skutnik can defy the Pardon Board... 1110 01:28:36,377 --> 01:28:38,538 if the board has no authority to subpoena her... 1111 01:28:38,645 --> 01:28:41,375 the power to make her talk, then we're helpless. 1112 01:28:41,482 --> 01:28:43,507 What do we do now? 1113 01:28:43,617 --> 01:28:45,949 The thing for us to do now is for me to appear... 1114 01:28:46,053 --> 01:28:48,749 before the Pardon Board of Springfield this afternoon... 1115 01:28:48,856 --> 01:28:51,518 present our apologies, and ask that the case be withdrawn. 1116 01:28:51,625 --> 01:28:54,287 Will that appear on Frank's record? 1117 01:28:54,395 --> 01:28:57,455 Will it spoil his chances when he becomes eligible for a parole? 1118 01:28:57,564 --> 01:29:00,533 No. His name simply will not come before the board. 1119 01:29:00,634 --> 01:29:02,898 All right. That's it, then. 1120 01:29:03,003 --> 01:29:05,733 I'm sorry, Mr. Palmer. 1121 01:29:05,839 --> 01:29:08,034 I want to apologize to you, too, Mr. Burns. 1122 01:29:08,142 --> 01:29:11,600 I thought if I found this woman, I could make her talk, but I missed it. I'm sorry. 1123 01:29:11,712 --> 01:29:14,875 Okay, Mac. Kelly, write a finish story... 1124 01:29:14,982 --> 01:29:17,951 on this Wanda Skutnik and end the whole thing. 1125 01:29:18,052 --> 01:29:20,520 Get the paper off the hook. 1126 01:29:24,191 --> 01:29:26,955 I can get a train for Springfield in about a half-hour. 1127 01:29:27,061 --> 01:29:29,154 Good. 1128 01:29:44,411 --> 01:29:46,675 Big day for the Wieceks. 1129 01:29:48,682 --> 01:29:50,946 "Write a finish story." 1130 01:29:51,051 --> 01:29:53,519 "Get the paper off the hook." 1131 01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:57,157 How do you end it? 1132 01:29:57,257 --> 01:30:00,694 First, you better go out and see Wiecek's mother. 1133 01:30:02,697 --> 01:30:06,292 I couldn't do that. I just couldn't do that, Kelly. 1134 01:30:06,401 --> 01:30:08,969 What do you want her to do, read it in the paper? 1135 01:31:03,525 --> 01:31:07,518 - Mr. McNeal! Come in. - Thank you. 1136 01:31:10,498 --> 01:31:13,934 I've got to excuse myself. I was not expecting company. 1137 01:31:14,035 --> 01:31:16,503 Oh, you mustn't regard me as company, Tillie. 1138 01:31:16,604 --> 01:31:20,096 I was baking a pie for Frank. 1139 01:31:20,208 --> 01:31:23,006 Please sit down. I get you some coffee. 1140 01:31:27,715 --> 01:31:29,842 I really can't stay, Tillie. 1141 01:31:29,951 --> 01:31:32,010 I just came out to talk to you about something. 1142 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,918 About the Pardon Board, yes? 1143 01:31:35,023 --> 01:31:37,116 Oh, I pray for this day! 1144 01:31:37,225 --> 01:31:40,592 I want to tell you about it. Come over here and sit down. 1145 01:31:40,695 --> 01:31:45,428 And now... now it has come! It is here! 1146 01:31:45,533 --> 01:31:48,502 - Tillie, I must tell you this. - Yeah? 1147 01:31:50,805 --> 01:31:53,035 We're going to call off the hearings. 1148 01:31:55,009 --> 01:31:58,467 We don't have a chance in the world of getting Frank his pardon. 1149 01:32:00,081 --> 01:32:02,641 - No chance? - No. 1150 01:32:05,253 --> 01:32:08,883 But you work so hard. You do everything. 1151 01:32:08,991 --> 01:32:11,892 Everything I could. 1152 01:32:11,994 --> 01:32:15,555 You got lawyers. He tell Pardon Board. 1153 01:32:15,664 --> 01:32:19,430 We have the best. But don't you see, Tillie? 1154 01:32:19,535 --> 01:32:22,936 If we go before the Pardon Board now... 1155 01:32:23,038 --> 01:32:27,134 it'll just be hurting Frank's chances for a parole later on. 1156 01:32:27,243 --> 01:32:29,473 We can't get a thing out of Wanda Skutnik... 1157 01:32:29,578 --> 01:32:31,808 and without her, we have nothing. 1158 01:32:33,182 --> 01:32:35,412 I saw her at the trial. 1159 01:32:35,517 --> 01:32:39,180 She will never tell. Like a rock. 1160 01:32:39,288 --> 01:32:43,281 She will never tell. But she knows. 1161 01:32:43,392 --> 01:32:47,260 Yes, she's afraid. She will not talk. Never. 1162 01:32:47,363 --> 01:32:49,923 And without her, we have no evidence. 1163 01:32:50,032 --> 01:32:52,967 "Evidence"? 1164 01:32:53,068 --> 01:32:56,037 They got no evidence when they sent my Frank to prison... 1165 01:32:56,138 --> 01:32:58,663 for 99 years. 1166 01:32:58,774 --> 01:33:03,143 I got no evidence when I scrub floors every night. 1167 01:33:03,245 --> 01:33:06,043 Go without supper. Walk to work... 1168 01:33:06,148 --> 01:33:08,548 so I save a nickel for Frank. 1169 01:33:13,055 --> 01:33:16,286 "Evidence." 1170 01:33:16,392 --> 01:33:18,519 What is this "evidence"? 1171 01:33:28,804 --> 01:33:32,706 I can't tell you how sorry I am, Tillie. 1172 01:33:35,411 --> 01:33:38,039 You try to help. 1173 01:33:38,147 --> 01:33:41,014 You're a good man. 1174 01:33:41,116 --> 01:33:43,482 But if this thing happen... 1175 01:33:43,585 --> 01:33:45,678 then we fight some more. 1176 01:33:45,788 --> 01:33:48,814 We fight more and more. Yes? 1177 01:33:48,924 --> 01:33:51,256 No, Tillie. 1178 01:33:53,595 --> 01:33:55,859 We're calling off the hearing. 1179 01:33:55,964 --> 01:33:58,057 The Times is dropping the case. 1180 01:33:58,167 --> 01:34:00,031 No. 1181 01:34:01,804 --> 01:34:05,535 But if you go, I got no friend left. 1182 01:34:07,042 --> 01:34:09,340 Sorry. 1183 01:34:14,016 --> 01:34:16,211 No friends left. 1184 01:34:16,318 --> 01:34:18,752 No friends no more. 1185 01:34:43,580 --> 01:34:45,639 Big fool, me. 1186 01:34:47,050 --> 01:34:49,883 Sure I got a friend. 1187 01:35:26,856 --> 01:35:29,347 Where to? 1188 01:35:29,459 --> 01:35:32,656 Ah, the Chicago Times. 1189 01:35:32,762 --> 01:35:35,822 You're the fellow that's writing those stories, ain't you? 1190 01:35:38,132 --> 01:35:39,766 Seen the paper? 1191 01:36:41,432 --> 01:36:44,833 Hey, change that, will ya? Get me down to police headquarters fast as you can! 1192 01:36:44,935 --> 01:36:46,835 Right away! 1193 01:36:46,937 --> 01:36:49,804 McNeal of the Chicago Times. 1194 01:36:51,809 --> 01:36:54,903 First door on your left, Mr. McNeal. 1195 01:37:04,688 --> 01:37:08,818 Say, uh, did you make the enlargement of the photograph of this forged check here? 1196 01:37:10,661 --> 01:37:12,629 Yes. Why? 1197 01:37:12,730 --> 01:37:15,756 I got a picture here. I just wondered... 1198 01:37:15,866 --> 01:37:18,960 could you blow that section of the picture up right there? 1199 01:37:19,069 --> 01:37:22,766 - Sure. - Would all the details come out on it? 1200 01:37:22,873 --> 01:37:26,070 - That depends. You got the negative? - No, that's all I got. 1201 01:37:26,176 --> 01:37:29,612 - Well, then, I'd have to make a dupe. - How long would that take? 1202 01:37:29,713 --> 01:37:31,943 - Oh, couple of hours. - What do you think? 1203 01:37:32,049 --> 01:37:34,609 Could you get started on it right away? 1204 01:37:34,718 --> 01:37:36,879 Yes. 1205 01:37:36,987 --> 01:37:39,285 But you're McNeal at the Times, aren't ya? 1206 01:37:39,390 --> 01:37:42,791 - Been working on that Wiecek case. - That's right. I'm McNeal. 1207 01:37:45,162 --> 01:37:48,097 At first, I thought this guy was guilty. 1208 01:37:48,198 --> 01:37:51,292 Now I don't know. Let me take a look at it. 1209 01:37:53,737 --> 01:37:56,570 - Hey, could I use your phone? - Sure. Right over there. 1210 01:38:04,882 --> 01:38:08,943 I want to put in a person-to-person call to Mr. Martin J. Burns. 1211 01:38:09,053 --> 01:38:12,614 He's up at the state capitol in Springfield, Illinois. 1212 01:38:12,723 --> 01:38:15,521 That's right. Yeah. 1213 01:38:39,216 --> 01:38:42,117 Sorry, gentlemen. 1214 01:38:42,219 --> 01:38:44,780 The Pardon Board is in special session. 1215 01:38:44,889 --> 01:38:48,552 The case of Frank Wiecek. 1216 01:38:48,660 --> 01:38:52,892 Gentlemen, I feel somewhat at a loss... 1217 01:38:52,998 --> 01:38:58,436 because I came here to ask that the petition of Frank Wiecek be withdrawn. 1218 01:39:01,072 --> 01:39:04,564 However, about an hour ago, I received a telephone call... 1219 01:39:04,676 --> 01:39:07,702 from James McNeal of the Chicago Times... 1220 01:39:07,812 --> 01:39:12,112 who informs me he has uncovered the evidence we have been seeking. 1221 01:39:12,217 --> 01:39:14,481 It is conclusive evidence... 1222 01:39:14,586 --> 01:39:16,850 that supports the petition of Frank Wiecek. 1223 01:39:16,955 --> 01:39:21,585 You may present the evidence, Mr. Burns. 1224 01:39:21,693 --> 01:39:24,355 Unfortunately, gentlemen... 1225 01:39:24,462 --> 01:39:29,365 my telephone conversation with Mr. McNeal was necessarily brief. 1226 01:39:29,467 --> 01:39:33,335 He's flying down to Springfield. He should be here at any moment. 1227 01:39:33,438 --> 01:39:34,839 What evidence does he have? 1228 01:39:34,839 --> 01:39:35,828 What evidence does he have? 1229 01:39:39,444 --> 01:39:41,935 - I'm afraid I don't know. - Mr. Chairman. 1230 01:39:42,047 --> 01:39:44,038 - Mr. Faxon. - I object. 1231 01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:46,845 The state's attorney's office has the right to demand... 1232 01:39:46,951 --> 01:39:48,919 orthodox conduct of this hearing. 1233 01:39:49,020 --> 01:39:51,352 If you have conclusive evidence, present it. 1234 01:39:51,456 --> 01:39:54,516 Otherwise, we ask that the petition be denied here and now. 1235 01:39:54,626 --> 01:39:57,288 Mr. Faxon, we certainly intend to follow... 1236 01:39:57,395 --> 01:40:01,195 orthodox procedure in this board of pardons. 1237 01:40:12,711 --> 01:40:16,075 - Kelly's sending it over the A.P. wire. - Have you got anything at all? 1238 01:40:16,155 --> 01:40:19,043 I don't have a thing. We'll just have to stall them. 1239 01:40:19,150 --> 01:40:22,517 - Let me talk to them. - All right. 1240 01:40:24,656 --> 01:40:27,625 Mr. Chairman, gentlemen... 1241 01:40:27,726 --> 01:40:32,060 I'd like to ask your permission to have Mr. McNeal of the Chicago Times... 1242 01:40:32,163 --> 01:40:34,461 address the board. 1243 01:40:34,566 --> 01:40:37,000 - Granted. - Thank you, sir. 1244 01:40:37,102 --> 01:40:39,627 Mr. Chairman, gentlemen, I'd like to apologize for being late... 1245 01:40:39,738 --> 01:40:43,435 but it was just impossible for me to get here sooner. 1246 01:40:43,541 --> 01:40:47,238 I, uh... I don't know how much Mr. Burns has told you. 1247 01:40:47,345 --> 01:40:50,246 Strictly from a reporter's point of view, understand... 1248 01:40:50,348 --> 01:40:52,839 I've assembled what I feel is a very solid case. 1249 01:40:52,951 --> 01:40:55,182 And of what does this case consist? 1250 01:40:55,287 --> 01:40:58,745 Well, it consists of such debatable items as a lie-detector test. 1251 01:40:58,858 --> 01:41:03,261 Now, I realize that you're unable to accept that. 1252 01:41:03,362 --> 01:41:05,330 You want evidence. 1253 01:41:05,431 --> 01:41:08,366 But sometimes the weight of evidence, just because it's in the record... 1254 01:41:08,467 --> 01:41:10,833 is heavy enough to crush the truth. 1255 01:41:10,936 --> 01:41:15,669 We'll discuss the shortcomings of our judicial system some other time, Mr. McNeal. 1256 01:41:15,775 --> 01:41:17,766 Yes, sir. I'm sorry. 1257 01:41:17,877 --> 01:41:20,505 I realize that at the present time you want facts. 1258 01:41:21,881 --> 01:41:24,179 We have a notarized affidavit... 1259 01:41:24,283 --> 01:41:27,377 from the bailiff of Judge Moulton's court... 1260 01:41:27,486 --> 01:41:30,421 that the judge felt that Wiecek did not receive a fair trial. 1261 01:41:30,523 --> 01:41:33,515 We have those documents before us, Mr. McNeal. 1262 01:41:33,626 --> 01:41:36,026 They could hardly be called conclusive. 1263 01:41:36,128 --> 01:41:39,188 Yes, sir. But as you probably know from those documents... 1264 01:41:39,298 --> 01:41:42,837 Gruska and Decker contradicted Wanda Skutnik's testimony, 1265 01:41:42,917 --> 01:41:44,835 and those affidavits bear them out. 1266 01:41:45,015 --> 01:41:47,702 The board is aware of that, too, Mr. McNeal. 1267 01:41:47,807 --> 01:41:50,867 But Wanda Skutnik has not altered her testimony, has she? 1268 01:41:50,976 --> 01:41:54,173 Wanda Skutnik lied from beginning to end! 1269 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,305 She lied about everything! 1270 01:41:58,551 --> 01:42:02,612 You know, it's a very funny thing about the statue of justice up there. 1271 01:42:02,721 --> 01:42:06,953 She has a sword in her hand. It's a double-edged sword. 1272 01:42:07,059 --> 01:42:10,893 Cuts both ways. It keeps cutting the ground out... 1273 01:42:10,996 --> 01:42:14,090 from under everything in favor of Frank Wiecek... 1274 01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,862 but the other side of it, that isn't so sharp. 1275 01:42:16,969 --> 01:42:19,563 It doesn't cut the ground out from under Wanda Skutnik... 1276 01:42:19,672 --> 01:42:23,506 and she's the only one responsible for Wiecek's conviction! 1277 01:42:23,609 --> 01:42:28,376 Now, I have a police record here that proves that Wiecek was arrested... 1278 01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:31,347 on the 22nd of December. 1279 01:42:31,450 --> 01:42:34,010 I have another one here... 1280 01:42:34,119 --> 01:42:38,055 that proves he wasn't booked until the 23rd of December, one day later. 1281 01:42:38,157 --> 01:42:41,388 Okay. Wanda Skutnik testified... 1282 01:42:41,493 --> 01:42:43,688 that she didn't see him from the time of the murder... 1283 01:42:43,796 --> 01:42:47,323 until the time she identified him in the police lineup. 1284 01:42:49,168 --> 01:42:51,398 Here's a photograph of Frank Wiecek... 1285 01:42:51,503 --> 01:42:53,471 and Wanda Skutnik together... 1286 01:42:53,572 --> 01:42:55,563 going into a police station. 1287 01:42:55,674 --> 01:42:58,234 Now, take a look at that, gentlemen. That's new. 1288 01:42:58,344 --> 01:43:01,541 And that's the basis of my conclusive evidence. 1289 01:43:03,015 --> 01:43:05,609 The two photostats of the police records... 1290 01:43:05,719 --> 01:43:07,710 merely indicate that some time elapsed... 1291 01:43:07,821 --> 01:43:10,585 between Wiecek's arrest and the time he was booked. 1292 01:43:10,690 --> 01:43:14,751 As a reporter, you know very well that this is a common occurrence at police stations. 1293 01:43:14,861 --> 01:43:16,829 Yes, sir, but what about that photograph? 1294 01:43:16,930 --> 01:43:19,262 It must be perfectly obvious to you, Mr. McNeal... 1295 01:43:19,366 --> 01:43:21,960 that we have no way of knowing when this picture was taken. 1296 01:43:22,068 --> 01:43:25,799 Was it on the 22nd or the 23rd? Or during or after the trial? 1297 01:43:25,906 --> 01:43:30,605 Yes, sir. I know. Gentlemen, that's what delayed me. 1298 01:43:30,710 --> 01:43:35,477 Now, if I do prove that that photograph was taken on the 22nd of December... 1299 01:43:35,582 --> 01:43:40,246 one day before Wanda Skutnik identified Frank Wiecek in the police lineup... 1300 01:43:40,353 --> 01:43:42,480 How about that? What then? 1301 01:43:42,589 --> 01:43:47,083 In that event, Mr. McNeal... 1302 01:43:47,193 --> 01:43:50,253 we might be obliged to render a favorable decision. 1303 01:43:50,363 --> 01:43:52,957 - But can you prove it? - Yes, sir. I think I can. 1304 01:43:53,066 --> 01:43:55,057 I just need a little time. 1305 01:43:55,168 --> 01:43:59,969 Time? Do you mean to say that you still have no corroborating evidence? 1306 01:44:00,073 --> 01:44:02,041 No, I'm not sure. 1307 01:44:02,142 --> 01:44:05,168 The police laboratory down in Chicago is enlarging... 1308 01:44:05,278 --> 01:44:07,746 this section of the photograph. 1309 01:44:07,847 --> 01:44:10,315 - Now, if the enlarging process... - Yes, I know. 1310 01:44:10,417 --> 01:44:12,942 But how long will this take? 1311 01:44:13,053 --> 01:44:15,851 As soon as the enlargement is developed, they're gonna send it... 1312 01:44:15,956 --> 01:44:18,390 over the wire photo system from the Chicago Times... 1313 01:44:18,491 --> 01:44:21,153 to the Illinois State Journal, which is just a few blocks down here. 1314 01:44:21,261 --> 01:44:24,287 Now, all I ask, gentlemen, is that you go down there... 1315 01:44:24,397 --> 01:44:27,195 - and see that thing with me. - I object! 1316 01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:31,202 The methods of publicity previously used in behalf of the plaintiff... 1317 01:44:31,304 --> 01:44:33,898 indicate that this may rightly be regarded as an attempt... 1318 01:44:34,007 --> 01:44:36,305 to make journalistic capital of this hearing. 1319 01:44:36,409 --> 01:44:40,470 I am authorized by the state's attorney's office to state categorically... 1320 01:44:40,580 --> 01:44:44,539 that in the opinion of our office, the facts set forth in Wiecek's behalf... 1321 01:44:44,651 --> 01:44:48,644 do not indicate that he was a victim of a miscarriage of justice. 1322 01:44:48,755 --> 01:44:53,055 We're here to protect the interests of the people of this state... 1323 01:44:53,159 --> 01:44:56,322 - not to sell newspapers. - Mr. Chairman... 1324 01:44:56,429 --> 01:44:58,397 gentlemen... 1325 01:44:58,498 --> 01:45:00,898 the governor ordered this hearing for the purpose... 1326 01:45:01,001 --> 01:45:03,526 of arriving at the truth. 1327 01:45:03,636 --> 01:45:07,037 If you fail to consider every item of evidence... 1328 01:45:07,140 --> 01:45:10,200 no matter how improperly presented... 1329 01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:13,768 you have defeated the very purpose of this hearing. 1330 01:45:15,115 --> 01:45:17,277 What is your decision, Mr. Chairman? 1331 01:45:19,954 --> 01:45:22,980 Gentlemen, we'll go. 1332 01:45:25,993 --> 01:45:28,427 - Are you clear to Springfield? - Yes, sir. The wire's open. 1333 01:45:28,529 --> 01:45:30,588 Well, hold it open. I'll have the picture in a minute. 1334 01:45:35,002 --> 01:45:37,197 - Which one's McNeal? - Yeah, right here. 1335 01:45:37,304 --> 01:45:41,240 Here are a couple of prints that came in a while ago from Kelly of the Times. 1336 01:45:41,342 --> 01:45:45,210 This one's blown up a hundred times. 1337 01:45:45,312 --> 01:45:48,213 This one 140. 1338 01:45:48,315 --> 01:45:50,875 - He said you'd understand. - Okay. Thanks very much. 1339 01:45:50,985 --> 01:45:53,010 Excuse me. 1340 01:45:59,660 --> 01:46:01,628 Ask them if they're ready. 1341 01:46:01,729 --> 01:46:05,130 - Springfield, are you ready for this picture? - We're ready. 1342 01:46:05,232 --> 01:46:08,929 - Okay. Here's the final lineup. - Okay. 1343 01:46:09,036 --> 01:46:11,664 All ready, Mr. McNeal. 1344 01:46:32,693 --> 01:46:35,526 Gentlemen, let me explain to you what's happening here. 1345 01:46:35,629 --> 01:46:39,258 As you remember, this is the picture I showed you before. 1346 01:46:39,366 --> 01:46:43,325 And this is the area we're working on right here... the newsboy. 1347 01:46:43,437 --> 01:46:46,099 All right. Now, this print is that area... 1348 01:46:46,207 --> 01:46:49,665 enlarged a hundred times. 1349 01:46:49,777 --> 01:46:52,211 And this print is that same area... 1350 01:46:52,313 --> 01:46:54,474 enlarged 140 times. 1351 01:46:54,582 --> 01:46:56,777 Now, the picture coming in now... 1352 01:46:56,884 --> 01:46:58,875 is this area right in here... 1353 01:46:58,986 --> 01:47:02,012 blown up as big as possible. 1354 01:47:02,123 --> 01:47:05,320 Well, what do you expect to find in the enlargement? 1355 01:47:05,426 --> 01:47:08,793 The date on the newspaper held in the newsboy's hand. 1356 01:47:08,896 --> 01:47:10,864 Is that possible? 1357 01:47:10,965 --> 01:47:12,956 Frankly, I don't know, sir. 1358 01:47:13,067 --> 01:47:15,035 It depends on a whole lot of things... 1359 01:47:15,136 --> 01:47:19,232 the condition of the dupe negative, the density of the print, the... 1360 01:47:19,340 --> 01:47:21,706 I've been doing a little praying too. 1361 01:47:42,464 --> 01:47:44,557 That's it, Mr. McNeal. 1362 01:47:44,666 --> 01:47:47,066 Excuse me, please. 1363 01:47:49,171 --> 01:47:52,698 - How long will this take? - It's a positive print. Shouldn't take long. 1364 01:47:52,807 --> 01:47:54,775 You can come along with me if you want. 1365 01:47:54,876 --> 01:47:56,935 This way, gentlemen. 1366 01:48:14,296 --> 01:48:17,129 Remember, this is the area I showed you. 1367 01:48:36,351 --> 01:48:38,546 There. It's beginning to come through. 1368 01:48:41,223 --> 01:48:43,214 Now, what's the date? 1369 01:48:43,325 --> 01:48:45,350 What's the date? 1370 01:48:49,531 --> 01:48:52,159 "December"... 1371 01:48:52,267 --> 01:48:54,792 There it is! "December 22." 1372 01:48:54,903 --> 01:48:57,599 Twenty-second of December! There it is! 1373 01:49:08,450 --> 01:49:10,509 - Good-bye, Warden. - Good luck, Frank. 1374 01:49:10,619 --> 01:49:12,678 Thank you. 1375 01:49:17,726 --> 01:49:19,956 A new suit and ten bucks. 1376 01:49:20,061 --> 01:49:22,029 Almost a dollar a year. 1377 01:49:22,130 --> 01:49:24,121 Oh, look, Frank. 1378 01:49:24,232 --> 01:49:27,292 It's a big thing when a sovereign state admits an error. 1379 01:49:27,402 --> 01:49:32,066 Remember this... There aren't many governments in the world that would do it. 1380 01:49:47,690 --> 01:49:51,820 That's my daddy! Daddy! 1381 01:50:08,644 --> 01:50:10,737 - Helen. - Frank. 1382 01:50:13,649 --> 01:50:16,345 - Frank, this is... - Yeah, I know. 1383 01:50:16,452 --> 01:50:19,216 I want to thank you for everything you've done for Helen and the boy. 1384 01:50:19,322 --> 01:50:22,257 And I want you to know, you can have the boy with you whenever you want him... 1385 01:50:22,358 --> 01:50:24,952 - and for as long as you like. - Thanks. 1386 01:50:27,296 --> 01:50:30,663 It's a good world... outside. 1387 01:50:33,336 --> 01:50:37,432 Yes, it's a good world outside. 1388 01:50:37,540 --> 01:50:40,373 And Frank Wiecek is free... 1389 01:50:40,476 --> 01:50:43,036 free because of a mother's faith... 1390 01:50:43,145 --> 01:50:45,375 the courage of a newspaper... 1391 01:50:45,481 --> 01:50:49,281 and one reporter's refusal to accept defeat. 1392 01:50:50,305 --> 01:50:56,569 Please rate this subtitle at %url% Help other users to choose the best subtitles 114954

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