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- Tonight, the reunion continues.

- We don't do that in this program, sweetheart.

- You don't tell me what I do in any program, Kim.

- Is Andy asking you or me right now?

- No, but you thought it was funny.

- Let me answer my question. - Okay, go ahead.

- I don't owe Tom an apology, so...

that's not gonna happen. - Of course it's not.

- I own it. I'm owning it.

I-I'm owning it. I'm owning it!

I hear these, like, "Yeah! Go for it, Lisa!"

- I heard a rumor that you once dated

Donald Trump.

- Get him off the stage. - That's not nice, Erika.

- Hey, I'm a whore, so you know what...

- What I'm saying is... - I'm not worried about

your feelings.

- I think what I should do is give it to you...

[suspenseful music]

- I'm gonna walk away for just a second,

'cause this just doesn't feel quite right.

[dramatic music]

- Welcome back to

"The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.

Did you see...

- I caught a glance, and at that point,

I never looked again.

- The only thing I care about is that you said,

"Maybe she's for sale."

- What am I supposed to say? - That's what I mean.

- "Close your legs, darling, I don't like the view"?

I didn't mind the view. Maybe Erika's bits

are available for the world... I don't know.

It's very frustrating when you're accused of something

that you didn't do. - When you're accused...

- Oh, my... - Erika, I understand that,

but I'm just... I'm... - I was accused of that too.

- I'm... I'm talking about... - But you can't defend her...

- And I know she's not a nasty person.

- I'm not calling her a nasty person.

I'm calling you a nasty person

for saying that sh... about me.

- Erika, let me ask you a question.

It did seem like you said a few times

I'm over it, it's no big deal... - Which means I don't wanna

talk about it! I don't wanna talk about it.

- I got the sense that you were over it.

- I'm over the whole situation. - But I got the sense...

- Please don't bring it up again.

- Yeah, but if you'd had a sense of humor about it

right from the beginning... - I don't have to have

anything other than what I... - So you weren't over it.

You weren't over it. - I don't wanna hear it.

Stop with the joking. It's not working.

- John from Honolulu said,

"I bet Lisa Vanderpump is still pissed at Erika

for saying she's a sniper from the side."

- What do you think of Lisa Vanderpump?

- She's a nice... She's so...

- Ha ha ha! - She's not sweet?

- I think she's a sniper from the side.

- "And told PK to say he'd seen up Erika's skirt."

- Ha ha ha... - Vanderpump, true or not true?

- Ha...

No, not true at all.

- Rinna, think that's a possibility?

- I plead the Fifth.

- Oh, God.

- Erika, do you think she's forgiven you

for saying that?

- Probably not.

Uh, I think he saw up my skirt,

and I think she loved every minute of it.

- I thought it was funny.

I really did! - I-I know you say...

That doesn't make the situation better, no matter

how many times you say it. - And I'm...

I'm so sorry that you... - It's not funny now.

It's not funny. - The first time we met you,

I felt you were very, very like...

relaxed with your... [overlapping chatter]

with your nudity.

Would you like us to do a pap smear test?

- Yes, let's do it now.

I'm just kidding. - [laughing]

- I'm dressed for the pap smear.

I feel like that fat cat in that YouTube video

that can't get through the door.

- Ah!

- Jesus, Marco!

That's not... That's not the argument.

- The bottom line is it wasn't funny

because Erika wasn't in on the joke.

- Exactly. - Everyone else was in

except for her. - I also think the conversation

in the kitchen the next day

kinda sealed the nail in the coffin.

- Yeah, that was not cool.

- Well, Kyle, Britt from Shreveport, Louisiana said,

"You could have stopped Dorit from buying Erika underwear,

"but instead, you just grabbed the popcorn

and sat back and watched."

- Grabbed the popcorn. - "Did you enjoy throwing her

under the bus like that"? - No, I said I don't think

this is gonna go well. - You said, "I don't think

this is gonna go over well."

- Hold on, this is not... - You said, "I wanna be there."

- Did you hear what I said... - You thought it was funny.

- Is Andy asking you or me right now?

- No, but you thought it was funny.

- Let me answer my question, Lisa.

Be quiet. - Okay, go ahead. Yeah.

- I said, "This is not gonna go well."

- I'll say it's flesh-toned.

Next time, we're going to a white party.

- This...

could go really, really, really, really wrong.

"This is not gonna go well at all,"

and she said... I knew that she thought it was funny,

and I knew that you would feel like,

"Oh, my God, I have no idea." - "I have to make fun of her."

- And, yes, I said, "Oh, my God, this could be a nightmare.

You better wait till I'm there," joking.

So don't try and make it seem like...

- No, no, no, you thought it was funny too.

- The question was for me, Lisa. That's so annoying.

That's so annoying to me. Stop. - Okay. No, but when

she bought the underwear, did you think...

- I told you what I said. - No, it came with

good intentions... Did it come with good intentions?

- What did I just say? - No, it's not

with good intention when it said...

- Do... - Lisa!

- No, no! - Why are you trying to

turn this on me? - No, I'm not!

- I just said that she said it as a joke and...

- Exactly! She... - But why are you sitting there

trying to make, "Oh, you thought it was funny"?

- I'm not... Kyle... - Yeah, you are.

- Don't do that to me. - Kyle...

- I don't like that. - Kyle...

- Don't do that. I don't wanna do that with you.

- What is she trying to do right now?

- Oh, well, "You thought it was funny, Kyle."

This is not me... don't try to turn this on me.

I'm not doing that. - Kyle...

- What, are you Andy Cohen? Stop! Stop!

- [sighs] I'm saying... - I said, "This is not

gonna go over well." - To her?

- Yes! You weren't there, Lisa! - Okay.

- Dorit, this is what I don't understand.

Why can't you just end it and say,

"I hear how painful this was for you."

- Lisa, I've apologized. - Embarrassing, humiliating.

- I know you have. - Did she feel bad

when she knew that... And I knew Erika was thinking

about what her husband would think,

because that's what I would be thinking.

- I wanna talk to you about that for a second

because in Hong Kong, you explain

that you hadn't told Tom... - No!

- About all that had gone down.

I was surprised that that was something

that you hadn't brought up to him.

- I hadn't. - You hadn't.

- I just hadn't. - And so how did you explain it

to him, and when did you explain it to him?

- Before the show aired, I said, listen, this is

the way the story's playing out.

You need to know that this is what happened,

and this is the storyline that's being pulled through.

And, uh, you know, fortunately for me,

he gets it.

- Dorit, you seemed to

really get it in a different way in Hong Kong

when Erika mentioned

that she was now gonna have to go back to her husband...

- Absolutely. - And that this might

have consequences. - You don't understand.

I still get that thing in my throat

the same way I got it when she had said that.

You know, you only started last season.

Just try and think about a year ago,

okay, when you were sitting here for the first time.

Did you understand everything

when you went into it? - No. But you know what

I didn't do? I didn't continuously drag someone

through the mud. - I didn't drag you

through the mud! - PK, what did you think

about Lisa Rinna asking Dorit if she trusted you?

- [chuckles] First of all,

I know Dorit trusts me,

so I wasn't particularly bothered by it.

I think it's an unkind thing to say.

But that's Lisa.

She says things,

then she says, "sorry," she owns it,

and it goes away, so...

it was water off a duck's back for me.

Didn't bother me. - And you know what?

I'm sorry that I did say that in that moment,

but it just came out because we were still talking about it.

So I was like, "Well, then, why?"

- Erika, you wanted Dorit and PK

to apologize to Tom.

Has that apology taken place?

- No, but it's okay.

I mean, in that moment, I wanted a lot of sh...

That, you know...

- I don't owe Tom an apology.

If the circumstances were reversed,

he wouldn't owe me one.

I owe you an apology for the joke I made.

I didn't do anything against Tom, so...

that's not gonna happen.

- Of course it's not.

- Lauren from White Plains said,

"Dorit, you were trying your best

to embarrass Erika because you're jealous of her."

Dorit? - Well...

I'm not jealous of her.

And I genuinely was not trying to embarrass you.

I don't know how many ways I can say it.

- But it is embarrassing.

It's embarrassing with what you said,

it's embarrassing with what PK said,

and then it continued... - But at some point, Erika,

we have to be able to move on,

because it wasn't the intention.

- Wait. But you were the one that didn't let it go.

I had moved on,

right then and there... - I had moved on.

- No, you weren't... - So by you moving on,

you felt like you had moved on

and you never wanted it brought up.

And by you moving on, you felt like,

"Oh, we're in a place where we can joke about it."

- Yeah, but everybody... - Is that it?

- Was joking about it. Are you kidding me?

- Is this...

the end of it?

[together] For me, it is.

- Ah! Jinx! Okay!

- And we didn't realize... - And me, Rinna,

everybody, always... Everybody was joking about it!

You just made a joke when we sat down.

- I made a joke when we sat... - "Oh, Dorit, I'm the one"...

Exactly!

- I've been so punished for that joke.

I know it was self-induced, but since then...

you know, I've listened to Rinna call me a pervert

and say, "Eew." I've listened to Eileen

suggest that I'm some kind of creep

staring up the dresses all the time.

- Hey, I'm a whore, so you know what...

- What I'm saying is... - I'm not worried about

your feelings. - No, but Erika...

- I'm sorry, you know what... - Erika, what I'm saying is

I just made a bad joke. That's all I did.

[dramatic musical flourish]

- Coming up...

- That's not nice, Erika.

- You're gonna tell me I'm not nice?

Get the f... outta here.

[dramatic chords]

- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills" reunion.

PK, after Hong Kong, you told Dorit

that Erika should concentrate

on the deep-rooted problems in her marriage.

- I'll always take a situation like this

with these crazy women

who've all got deep-rooted issues,

whether it's Erika with her marriage

or Lisa Rinna... I don't even want to discuss her.

She's certifiable.

- What did you mean by that?

- I don't wanna sound like you ladies,

but I actually don't remember saying deep-rooted problems...

- Wow! - Maybe you do.

- Yeah, I love that. Another "no rememberer".

I love it. - Well, I genuinely

don't remember, but I'm... - I understand

about genuinely not remembering.

- But I've got a lot going on in my life, so...

- You know, so do I. - You've got enough time

to be here, though. My husband doesn't.

F... that.

- Maybe he's even busier than me.

- I bet he is. - Really?

Did you have to be invited to come to this?

[overlapping chatter]

Oh, poor Harry Hamlin! - He didn't get invited.

- Oh, my gosh! - He did say that.

He did say I had deep-rooted problems in my marriage, and...

But you don't know that.

You don't know that. - You're right.

I don't know that. I've learned a lot

from this season, and I realize

that you... - That you're an ass.

- Can basically say whatever you want

as long as you own it and say sorry, so...

- No, not with me! - "I'm sorry."

- It's not... Some people lie. Some people tell the truth.

- I seem to be answering Erika's problems to you.

If you've got a problem with me, we can discuss that.

- Well, let me bring something up.

- Yeah. - Because before Vanderpump's

Diamonds and Rose party,

you said that Lisa Rinna is chemically imbalanced.

How did you respond...

- And I believe maybe "she was on drugs" too.

- Did I at any point sit at that dinner and say

Lisa Rinna has a drug problem?

- Of course you didn't say that,

and of course you wouldn't say that.

- No, but I... - She's just a bit paranoid.

I don't know. - Yeah.

- Maybe she did something and... - Maybe it's 'cause

she's on drugs. [laughing]

I think the behavior that I've been told about...

First of all... - You've been told about...

- Lisa, my first experience of you...

- Okay. - Was when you came to my house

for dinner. - Right.

- We had a fabulous dinner.

- Great. - He loved you.

- I thought we got along great. [overlapping comments]

And, in fact, when you left, I actually said,

"I don't know why anyone's got a problem with Lisa Rinna.

I think she's fab."

The reason I said that you're a little bit imbalanced...

- Right... - Is it's impossible to me

to even rationalize how you could leave

such a great evening... - Right.

- Where we got on... - Right.

- And then the only thing we talked about

were bad intentions, when there were genuinely none,

and you know that... - No.

- Are you gonna hold a diamond next season?

- What I saw on TV... - Are we gonna give him

a dress and a diamond? - A seven-hour...

- I don't think he should be here any more

than any of you should. - All I'm going back to,

'cause it's gonna come up again,

is you did not remember that conversation.

- You, out of all people... - Well, of course.

- Actually ever mentioning that someone doesn't remember...

- Of course! - Is a bad thing.

- No, it's not. It's because

a lot of us don't remember things,

and you were the first one not to.

Eileen had just lost her mother...

- [gasps]

- And she didn't tell anybody.

- That's not fair to other people, though.

- No, it's not. I agree with you 100%.

- One thing you remember

is that everyone got up after dinner.

You, in Hong Kong, dropped the bomb...

- I did. - That you were wondering...

- Yes. - If they all went in there

to blow some rails. - So damaging!

- Were people doing coke in your bathroom?

- Oh, come on!

[tense music]

- I certainly wasn't.

- Okay, guys, I'm gonna be really, really honest.

You started the whole Xanax thing... We'll go into it.

It went on and on. I'd gotten to a point

four months later... This is four months later...

Where I was like, okay, you know what?

I've had it with this.

- I didn't start the Xanax thing.

- You said, "Does Lisa Rinna..." - You did... You said it.

- "Have a problem with Xanax"? - I did not

say, "Does Lisa Rinna have a problem with Xanax?"

- We're gonna get into that. - Are you talking about...

Exactly. Why don't we get into that at the moment,

- Okay, well, that's Eden. - Exactly.

- Let's talk about the coke. - We don't know if it was that.

- Oh, come on! [overlapping chatter]

- You basically went after me with the most

preposterous accusations... - Dorit. Dorit.

- That you were never gonna raise.

- If we're gonna talk about drugs,

then let's be honest about it is all I'm saying.

- That's always what you said, "Let's be honest."

I'm being honest.

I've never, ever done coke. - Fine!

Okay! - Ever in my life.

- It was a question... - And the suggestion...

- You're not the one. I wasn't accusing you.

- That my friends or my family do...

- You said, "Do you and your husband

go in the bathroom... "- No.

- Yes, you did! - I said

were people at your house doing coke?

That's all I said. - It's still very damaging.

And you knew what you were doing.

And I think it was retaliation.

- It was very damaging.

- I was angry. - Exactly.

- That's not retaliation.

It was the truth. - I think it was retaliation...

- But it's the truth. - Over her saying

is your... Your personality induced?

- But you know what? If you're gonna be talking

about drugs, then I have to be fully honest,

because that's what I observed at your house.

- Well, you don't always have to be fully honest

when what you're saying isn't factual

and is hurtful. - That's true.

- It's not necessarily fully honest.

- Well, yours isn't factual either.

- Alternative facts, fake news!

Fake news!

- [chuckles]

- All the rage. - But can I ask you something?

I wanna go to the final party.

When you talked about Erika with Ken,

you both said some of the most heinous things

I've heard.

- I should have said,

"You think I'm interested in shagging you, babe?"

- No, you shouldn't have said that.

But you could have, you know,

invited me... Changed places with me

when you had the big, clear view of the p...

[laughter] - Yeah.

- Why did you have to do that?

Why did you have to continue to say things about Erika?

- You coulda let it go. - You coulda let it go.

- I think... I think... - I mean, that was

some really mean stuff. - Should she... So he...

Sorry. - I'll answer that.

I-I... - No, you were being naughty,

and so was Ken, absolutely. - I was very aware of...

- You know what you said.

- We were being naughty, but... - Yes.

- But at my expense. [overlapping chatter]

- And I'm naughty when I say my things,

and I'm not schizophrenic and crazy.

- I'm trying to answer you. Dorit got back from Hong Kong,

beyond distraught. - I asked you a question.

- Why is she beyond distraught? - And the whole thing

had come out, and I perceived

what I'd been told... - You're kidding.

- I'm not. - Was happening again that night

which was mean girls bullying my wife.

- Okay, but why did you say that

about Erika's vagina again? - Certainly,

my emotions were running high.

I definitely had a few drinks. - Oh!

- And Ken and I were being naughty.

- It's okay for you to say that,

but if I say anything, I'm a schizophrenic,

crazy,

erratic f... ing maniac.

- No, I think that I've only said one or two things.

You've said thousands.

Dorit was... ceremoniously attacked

by three or four of you all at once.

- You attacked me. - Look what you did to Erika.

- What did I do to her? - You called me cold.

- But you are, and I've told you...

- You've called me heartless. - Erika...

- She had to handle it on her own,

and there's no question...

- Well, she had Kyle and I there, so...

- She definitely had Kyle and...

- Erika, you asked, "Are you upset?"

I said, "Yeah, I am upset."

So... if my behavior that night

wasn't appropriate or I was too aggressive...

I did walk away, because your husbands weren't there.

And I actually said I can't have a conversation, but...

- And also, Erika, you invited him to the conversation.

- Yeah, because I wanted to know.

I wanted an answer to my question

which was did you say that I had done this on purpose?

- So... - And then you called me

inherently cold or frigid or some sh... like that.

- Because you said I was deliberately cold to you.

- But there were some pretty strong words

that you did say to Erika. - I mean, it was, and then...

- They weren't that strong... - But he's apologized to Erika.

- Compared to what you've come up with.

- Wait, let's not mix apples and oranges.

What you said about me was what you said about me.

What you guys have

is what you guys have. - Exactly.

- But I'm talking about what you said about her.

- It doesn't let you off the hook.

- Well, let's get him off the hook

and just see... - Get him off the stage.

- PK, before we let you go... - That's not nice, Erika.

- Oh! You're gonna tell me I'm not nice?

You're gonna tell me I'm not nice?

Get the f... outta here.

- Erika, you can't even look over there at him.

- Oh, I'm looking. - Okay.

- I'm looking. - Well, but you weren't.

- No, I wasn't, because it's...

Listen, it's so... - He has apologized

for what he said. - Yes, he has.

But it's easy to do that now in hindsight.

It's fine. - Is it really fine?

[tense music]

- If there is progress, it'll be a slow thing.

I'm not totally opposed,

but we need to... start over

and, you know, learn a few things about one another.

We'll see.

[tense music]

- PK, I appreciate you coming here.

- No problem. Thank you.

- We'll be right back.

♪ ♪

Coming up...

You see each other several times a week.

You greet each other like, oh, my God...

- 'Cause we're in L.A., and we're fake as sh...

[laughter]

- Hey, everybody, it's Andy Cohen.

We are back with more of

"The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.

Well, a proper hello in Beverly Hills

requires a double air kiss, a million-dollar smile,

forced, if necessary,

and a complimentary word

about one's hair or fashion.

Gorgeous will suffice.

Watch.

[energetic music]

- Ah! - How are you?

- I'm going to have to pull out

the Beverly Hills greeting.

- Hello! - Hi!

- Very nice to meet you.

- So beautiful.

- How are you? I'm good.

How are you? Good!

- Hi! - Hi!

- Oh, my God, you look amazing.

- Oh, my gosh!

You look gorgeous!

- Oh, my God, you look gorgeous!

Oh, my God, thank you! You look gorgeous!

Oh, stop.

- I love you, and I love what you're wearing.

- You're gorgeous!

- Thank you. - Look at you!

Wow. - Hi!

- Thank you!

- Look at you!

[kissing sounds]

- Happy birthday. - Thank you.

- When you're really pissed off at someone

but you don't wanna ruin the party...

- Hello, everyone. - [kiss]

Welcome.

[snarls] [laughter]

- Hello, Lisa Rinna. - Wow, look at that color.

Love your dress.

- You look beautiful. - So do you.

- Thank you.

- [snores]

[laughs] It's like...

enough!

Oh, my God, that's so embarrassing.

- I will say, it's so funny. You do greet...

You see each other several times a week.

You greet each other like, oh, my God,

it's a long, long... - I have to tell you.

In the last... Or second... Your party at the beginning,

I was so embarrassed by the hellos.

It was so crazy.

[shrilly] "Oh, my God!

Hi!" I was like, what is wrong with everybody?

- Why do we do that?

- 'Cause we're in L.A., and we're fake as sh...

[laughter] [overlapping chatter]

From L.A., man!

[laughter]

- Beverly Hills is known for its ladies who lunch,

but Kyle is a store owner and a TV producer,

and the other ladies all have careers and passions

that keep them busy as well.

Let's roll up our sleeves and watch how they have it all.

- We cast Alicia Silverstone... - [gasps] Oh!

- From "Clueless" to be... - Yes!

- Play my mom in my scripted show.

[clapping] - That's really good!

- What time do you think we're gonna be here till tonight?

- I think we won't stop till about 5:00 or 5:30.

Maybe 6:00. - That's crazy.

- You know what happens with you

is when you get busy, you like to project it on me

and then you like to make me the busy one.

- It's challenging now that

Mauricio and I are both so busy.

As long as we get our family time in balance,

then it's okay. - Yep.

- But we know that

our marriage and our family are the priority, so...

we're doing the best we can.

- Okay, we gotta talk about schedule for Europe.

From Milan, are we going to Paris or London?

- We'll go from New York to Milan

and from Milan to London.

- New York to Milan. Okay.

- I'm a businesswoman, I'm a mother, I'm a wife.

Basically.

- 30 seconds.

- My manufacturer, who does my line,

said to me, "Tell Harry

"he never has to work again

a day in his life if he doesn't want to."

- 4, 3, 2...

- [gasps] Oh!

Oh, my God, I am so sorry.

- Look at this mess. What are you thinking?

I'm a showgirl. I put on shows.

I been doing it since I was little.

♪ My kitty's like a python ♪

♪ Tick-tickin' like a time bomb ♪

♪ Limited edition ♪

♪ Gotta buy it with no try-on ♪

And I still don't give a f...

- Yay! - I love it.

- Busy girls. - Yeah.

- Busy girls! Busy girls. - Busy girls.

- You performed at Christina Aguilera's birthday party.

- I did.

I did, yeah. - What was that like?

- Oh, it was great, I mean, to get the call,

and, you know, have her ask.

- She asked for you. - Yes.

- Wow. - Right, you know,

so my heart stopped a little bit, and, yeah.

- Uh, Lisa, how does Harry Hamlin feel

about never having to work another day in his life?

- He loves the fact that he can now choose...

The reason why I got the call was

tell Harry he never has to take a crappy, sh... job

that we've had to take over the years to pay the bills.

- Kyle, uh, you have six stores?

- Yes. - Where are they?

- They are in Beverly Hills,

Palm Beach, two in Boca,

South Hampton, and New York City,

upper east side, that we just opened.

- Which is amazing... - Kyle, that is so amazing!

- 'Cause it is so hard to have a retail business.

- Incredible. - Wow.

- So the show you're producing got picked up, Kyle.

Any plans to appear in the show?

- No. - No.

- I don't want to at all.

- She's a producer. - What about Kim?

- Um, that would be amazing.

Right now, I just want it to be in the '70s

and not be any distraction and, you know...

- Right.

It was fun seeing Erika

do her part on "Young and the Restless."

And you've been back, right? - I go back tomorrow.

- Tomorrow. We both work tomorrow!

- Yeah! - How great is that?

- That's great!

- She has an early call. - Playing the same character.

- Yep.

- And I know that you...

Your name is inspired by Erica Cane,

and you recently met Susan Lucci.

- I met Susan Lucci, and...

yeah, what a... And my mother was so excited.

I called my mom. "Mom, I'm gonna meet Susan Lucci.

We're doing a show together."

She was like, "You must tell her how much I adored her

"and I just wanted to be a brunette

even though I was a blond."

Here's what I say.

There's a little bit of Erika Jayne in all of us.

- Oh, my God, I've always said that about Erica Cane.

- See? [laughter]

This is why we vibe!

- Uh, Dorit, Molly from Venice, California

said, "You talk about being busy a lot.

What, exactly, do you do?"

- We have a few different businesses,

so whether it's, um,

some of the people that we manage

in our talent management agency,

or we have a sports tech business.

I mean, I've designed

for nearly two decades.

- Why'd you stop your swimsuit line?

- I was working for a swimwear company.

I was building it,

and then I subsequently left there

and opened my own company.

I launched my own swimwear line, resort wear,

and I ran that. - It was super cute.

I went online and looked at it a while back with Lisa.

- Yeah, when are you gonna do that again?

- I don't know. - You have talent.

- You should do that. - Thank you.

- You shouldn't let that go. - No. You have real talent.

- I know. - Because you built something.

- I never even sold my company

because, to me, it was taking a hiatus, you know?

And I needed to help my husband grow our businesses,

and he needed me, and I can see myself...

Whether it's swimwear or something else...

- Whatever. You should just never let that go,

whatever that is.

Because it's easy to live under a shadow

of a powerful man. - Right.

- But, you know, to step out and still be yourself.

[upbeat music]

- Coming up...

- I said, "She so sweet. She's a team player."

And then you went and said,

"Kyle was so weird and cold to me."

That's a flat-out lie.

[dramatic music]

- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills" reunion.

Joining us for all the fun

are Kim Richards

and Eden Sassoon. Welcome, Eden.

- Thank you.

- Hey, Kim.

- Hi, Andy.

- How's your grandbaby?

- He is so precious and amazing.

He lights up my world every day.

- Congratulations. - Yeah.

- You know, we have so much to discuss,

but there's one thing I have to ask you

before we get on to everything that happened this season.

I heard a rumor that you once dated Donald Trump.

- What? - Really?

[light laughter]

- Is that true? - Um...

Yes.

- You did?!

[overlapping chatter]

- Like... a date? - I had dinner.

I had dinner with him.

- You had dinner. The two of you?

- I... - Sex or not?

[laughter, chatter]

- I don't want to talk about the President.

- Oh, come on! [laughter]

Did you see him naked?

- Kim could have been our First Lady.

- Oh, my God! - That would have been amazing.

- Wow.

Okay.

Well, she's the daughter of a hair-styling guru

who loves giving gifts

and long hugs.

She also loves love,

namely in the form of an online suitor

she's never met.

Here is Eden Sassoon.

- Hi. - Hi!

- How are you? - How are you?

I haven't seen you in a long time.

This is for the two of you.

You make me want what you have

as far as family. - Oh!

- I'm a single mom. - Aw...

- And so... - So that's a bottle of love?

- You can put in anything you want.

- I love that, thank you. - It's your bottle of love.

- It's a sweet gesture, but I don't know what the f... it is.

- I'm a free spirit. I do what I want.

And so I'm meeting London...

- Are you f... ing kidding me? - No.

- He's got f... me written all over him.

- He's gonna get f... ed.

We met online.

We've been talking for about five, six weeks,

and I'm treating him to New York.

- You don't now this person, and he could be crazy.

- He could kill me. You're absolutely right.

But guess what. I could kill him.

- Oh, you're gonna do one of those long, awkward hugs.

- Mm-hmm. - [chuckling]

- Eden comes in for a hug like this...

and then it's like this, the hug.

Mmm...

[laughter]

- Oh... hi!

- Oh...

[light music]

- [laughs]

And they go on...

and on...

- You give me the hugs I like.

- Okay, that's... - I'll give you...

- That's the kinda hug... - That's the hug!

See, that's what you wanna do. - Let go!

- "Let go!" [laughing]

- I love it. Well, Kim,

from Fort Dodge, Iowa, has the million dollar question.

"Why do you hug people for minutes on end

when you've just met them?"

- Because it breaks that sort of energy

that, like, we hold off between us.

And so if you can hold a hug

for longer than six or seven seconds,

then it kinda connects one another,

you know, each other together.

- Odd, though. - Or not.

[laughter] - Well, if I'm hugging...

Well, usually, you don't go in for a hug

if someone's sort of backing off.

And, yeah, I might hold on a little longer,

but at some point, someone just sort of...

- Or they try to get away. - And, uh, I mean,

you kind of feel it,

and sometimes they don't want it, and sometimes they do.

- Why do they make you uncomfortable, the hugs?

- Um, I feel like a hug, you know,

should be like, "Hey, how are you?"

and then release. "So good to see you.

See you next week," release.

Anything lingering too long,

when you start having to count

and you're not that close with that person

feels too long to me. I don't know.

Maybe it's just me. - Lisa Vanderpump,

you and Ken knew Vidal Sassoon, right?

But did you ever know Eden?

- No. We didn't know Vidal

very well, but certainly well enough

to be invited to the house and for lunch,

and he would come into the restaurant.

And that's why I felt a little bit of a connection with Eden

because, you know, I remember her father so well

and just being such a lovely man.

- Lisa Rinna, Dierdre from Hingham, Massachusetts,

wants to know is the love bottle Eden gave you

prominently displayed at Casa Hamlin,

or did you recycle it after she stabbed you in the back?

- Be honest. - I have it. We still have it.

- Where is it? - I don't know exactly

where it is, but... [laughter]

- Eden, speaking of love, you haven't shown a lot of love

to Kyle on Twitter.

You tweeted, "I'm sick of her trashing me every week.

It makes her look bad, and it's ugly."

And then you said, "Kyle, you are just mean.

WOW."

How was she being mean and ugly?

- When I was watching, re-watching all of this,

which was very difficult for me,

I didn't know that... that...

I mean, everything that came out of your mouth

was just mean.

- So maybe Eden doesn't need to help.

- Well, yes. - I think she can be

annoying as f..., though. - Well, so can a lot of people.

- I mean, there came a point where I would sit with my family

and I'd start to laugh, and then I'd look at them.

I'm like, "Wow!"

It's just like, "Eden this," "If she talks to me,

therapy, $250..." - You have to put yourself

in my shoes for a minute.

I had never met you.

You came to my house game night.

I said, "Hi, how are you?"

I thought you were lovely.

I said, "She's so sweet. She's a team player.

She got right in there," and then you went and said,

"Kyle was so weird and cold to me."

That's a flat-out lie.

[dramatic music]

- Coming up...

Lisa Rinna, why did you say it?

- I'll tell you. - She doesn't remember!

♪ ♪

- I had never met you.

You came to my house game night.

I said, "Hi, how are you?"

I thought you were lovely.

I said, "She's so sweet. She's a team player.

She got right in there," and then you went and said,

"Kyle was so weird and cold to me."

That's a flat-out lie.

So I was like, "Okay, that's weird."

Then the first thing you say when you met me is,

"So where did the drinking come from?

Was your mom a drinker? What's the story?"

- Where did the drinking come from in your family?

Did it get passed down from somewhere?

- Oh, with Kim? Um...

- Was your mom a drinker?

- You didn't know me at all. I've never met you before.

- But you might wanna be careful,

because you, at the cake tasting,

said some mean things...

- Okay. - And didn't acknowledge

the fact that I had lost someone in my life.

- Eden's conflicts weren't limited to Kyle and Kim.

She and Lisa Rinna became fast and furious friends.

It was like lightning in a love bottle,

but it ended just as furiously as it began.

- I was on Main Street, and there's an amazing crystal shop,

and just...

- "Clears toxic, emotional, and old pain."

[gasps]

You know, I'm just enjoying

getting to know Eden right now.

For some reason with you, I go deep with real quick.

She seems to really understand

where I come from, and I don't feel judged.

- You came after me all last year...

- You know what, the truth is the truth.

- Excuse me. I'm talking right now.

- There's just something deeper here.

Then maybe go there

and try to express that to her.

- I would say she's probably mostly sober right now.

I don't think she's completely.

Kyle's her enabler,

and they're this close to Kim dying.

- Wow.

- I don't understand why

all these conversations are happening.

It feels gossipy. - You should ask

your friends then. - Did they ask you?

- Yeah. - Who asked you?

- I'm not the only one talking about this.

Where's Lisa Rinna now?

[laughter]

- Rinna said to me

that Kim is on the path to destruction.

- Rinna has said that she doesn't believe

that your sister is truly sober

and that she is near death.

- What?! - Yes. And that is what

she is telling Eden.

- Did you or did you not

say that my sister is close to death?

And that she is

not 100% sober and that I'm an enabler?

[edgy music]

- What the f...?

I can't say yes to this, because I don't remember it.

- Rinna, you're lying, or... or Eden's lying.

- No, it's Eden. She's projecting it on to me.

I will not f... ing take it. - Tell her to shut the f... up.

- Well, from now on, I'm gonna tell her more than

shut the f... up. It's not right.

I let her in too quickly. I got too close too soon.

Do not go behind my back and talk about me

and then expect me to be there for you,

because that is not okay with me.

- She tells Lisa Vanderpump that Lisa Rinna said that

she's not sure if you're sober,

that you're close to death, and your family knows it.

- I wanna say that after game night

I met with Eden... - Mm-hmm.

- And I said some things that I didn't remember.

And now that I've had time to think about it,

I said them.

♪ ♪

- That is not something that you say

and you just forget that you said it.

- And that you, being in recovery,

go around and repeat it...

- Repeated our conversation to everybody?

- To Lisa. - Yeah, she did.

But it was out there, Kim. - It doesn't matter!

- You're never present for me.

You're never there.

You... You just aren't. - Are you f... ing kidding me?

- No, we talk, and then you...

- My guard went up the minute you went to Vanderpump.

- Then at the party... - I was done!

The minute you did that, you were...

- You know what? F... off.

- Ugh. Whatever. - I've given you so much

of my time and my energy and my f... ing heart, you bitch!

- You know, it's not okay to talk to me like that.

- It's not okay for you to treat me the way you do.

I'm sick and tired of you walking all over me

and using me as your f... ing scapegoat!

- Wow. - [softly] Bitch.

- Wow. Okay, scapegoat.

- Where do you start, Andy?

- Kirsten from Bakersfield, California

said, "I don't get Lisa Rinna.

Eden gives her a crystal, and they're suddenly best friends."

- Well, you know,

we hit it off at first.

We did. I have to be honest, you know?

We connected, we both had just lost our fathers recently.

We both lost a sister.

I mean, there was a connection.

- Gary, from Bismarck, North Dakota, said,

"Why did Eden think it was appropriate

"to insert herself into Lisa Rinna's argument

"with Kim? Being a sober woman

does not give her carte blanche."

- I didn't know their past argument,

nor did I care, but I saw two women

kind of go at each other,

and at that point, the feelings I had

for Lisa, and...

in my history, in my mind's eye,

the way that I felt for you as a child...

Which you don't remember, but I went to set,

and I looked up to Kim...

I just was overwhelmed,

and I couldn't not not say something.

- Kim, you were turned off by Eden speaking up

and decided to distance yourself.

Ginny from St. George, Utah, wants to know,

"Were you more amused or more angry

when Eden tried to analyze your thoughts on being a grandma?"

- I thought it was... kind of weird.

I'm starting worry

and go back through those first mother instincts again.

And all of a sudden, I'm like, ohh, like...

- Do you feel like you're holding on to this

in your mind and it's physically taking effect upon you?

- [laughs] No, no, no.

It was something I just needed to be away from.

I just didn't understand it.

- Eden, what exactly was wrong

with the way Kim was acting at PK's birthday party?

What did you see? - I just felt...

the distance or this sort of nervous energy...

- But then when you feel the energy

that somebody doesn't want you near them,

why don't you just step away?

Why do you continue to come at people,

especially, being sober... - Let's not talk about

"at people." Let's talk about you and I.

- You need to respect people's space, Eden.

- I respect people's space. - I think we have a good shot

at being friends, truthfully, both being in recovery...

We could have gone to meetings together.

We could have been doing a lot of stuff together.

You immediately got into my personal space.

You stepped into a situation, repeated a terrible lie.

Instead of going to the source and saying, "Hey,

this is what I heard,"

you went and repeated it to Lisa.

And then you asked my sister,

"Is she sober? Is she working a program?"

Why are you taking my inventory?

We don't do that in this program, sweetheart.

- You don't tell me what I do in any program, Kim.

- Obviously. - I am me,

and some people are uncomfortable,

and obviously, you're one of those people.

- Okay. - And I will never change

or be anybody different.

She spoke to me...

- Lisa Rinna, why did you say it?

- Well, it's... I'll tell you.

- She doesn't remember!

[dramatic music]

- Coming up...

- I don't really know, honestly,

what's real and what's not with you.

- I don't need to explain myself.

- So you think it's right that you went and repeated

a terrible... "Near death, not sober."

You think that's right to put it all out there?

- Repeat it? I had no choice.

- I disagree.

- Lisa Rinna, why did you say it?

- Yeah.

- Well, it's... I'll tell you...

- She doesn't remember!

- I can tell you why I said it

in the moment to Eden.

It was after game night.

You went after my husband.

- I never said anything about your husband.

- Yes, you did. - Let's get the story straight.

- How dare you, Kim. Don't go there.

- I never said one thing about your husband.

- Are you kidding me? - Never said a word about him.

- Kim, you know what? You play dirty.

- And the very next day, you're at a dress shop.

You're telling Eden I'm not sober,

and I'm near death!

It's like lies, cries, and denies.

That's what you did. It was like

to watch it was just unbelievable to me.

- Kim, will Lisa Rinna always disappoint you,

do you feel like?

- No. I don't think that.

I think Lisa has a huge heart,

and I think you won't always... You don't always disappoint me.

I'm like, wow!

Like, I get excited when I see Lisa, like, I'm owning...

I own it. I'm owning it.

I'm... I'm owning this.

I'm owning it. I hear these, like, yeah!

Go for it, Lisa!

I don't think she always will disappoint me.

- I like that. - And since then,

we've made amends.

Can I hug you? - Sure.

- Feel like a hug? Should we hug?

- Sure.

[both laughing]

[applause]

- Thank you.

- Thank you for your apology.

- Thank you for being open to me tonight.

And... we have moved on.

- I think there's big hopes for her.

- Lilly from Springdale, Arkansas wants to know

what you did with the bunny Lisa Rinna gave

for your grandson.

- Oh! Well, Lisa,

hold on.

I brought the bunny...

Because I never gave it to my grandson.

'Cause I didn't feel like

it had good energy.

Sorry. - Okay.

- So I think what I should do

is give it to you...

And when you are in a better place,

maybe you can give it back to me?

Because right now, I don't feel it was given to me

with the right energy.

And I was...

it's just been sitting there,

and I couldn't give it to my grandson

because I'm all about energy and positive things.

- [whispers] Okay. [slightly louder] Okay.

- So...

- Would you like one of my crystals?

Maybe it'll help heal you.

- No, I'm healed. I'm good.

But I feel like maybe that could be given

to somebody else and that you would mean it more

and get better energy giving it to somebody else.

But you don't have to cry over it.

So I just feel like... And I could have re-gifted it.

But I felt like it was better to give it back to you.

Because I... - Rinna, she's still saying

there's hope for the future

between the two of you.

- What do you think returning the bunny

at the reunion means?

Send it back in the mail.

- I brought it when I hadn't talked to her yet,

and I don't really know, honestly,

what's real and what's not with you.

I don't. - Well, I'd like to hear

from her.

- I don't need to explain myself.

I don't need to say a word.

I get it, loud and clear.

- Maybe that was bad timing of me to ask that question,

because I feel like we were just at a place where you...

- You know, I don't think so. I think, Lisa...

I don't know if I am ready to be your friend.

- Okay. You know what? I accept that,

and I'm okay with it.

I have forgiven myself... - And that's a big step.

- And I can move forward with that, um...

- I feel bad because I know... [Kim, indistinct]

my sister's personality... - I've been talked about!

- And she wouldn't want to have something

she felt had a negative... Anything negative attached to it

to give her baby, 'cause she's superstitious and all that.

But I also can see where...

I can see Lisa feels bad about that.

- You know, what's really funny is, um,

Harry was the one that said that he thought

this would be a really good idea

to bring this bunny to Kim, that it would just be

a really nice moment to have with you.

So I said, "I don't know. It doesn't feel quite right."

- I mean, I-I think... - Maybe it's good

that you feel bad for a minute,

because you hurt me.

- I'm gonna walk away for just a second,

'cause this just doesn't feel quite right.

- I've seen this side of her before

where she's like, "I'm sorry."

It would mean a lot to me if I knew she was sincere.

- Right, and I understand that that's your issue.

- Because I want that! - You want it to be sincere.

- That thing with the bunny

is 'cause you're very superstitious.

You're always very superstitious about anything.

- I understand. It was given at a moment

where things weren't resolved,

so it maybe has some significance.

[tense music]

- [sniffles]

- Lisa. Lisa, I need to talk to you about this.

- Okay. - That was a calculated move

with that bunny. You had a good heart,

and you were trying to

end this sh...!

- I know. - And I know.

- She's just trying to demean you and hurt you...

- Well, you know what, she can't demean me

and hurt me, because I have a beautiful life

and I have a beautiful family. - Yes, you do.

- And, you know what? That's her stuff.

That is her... stuff right there.

- I mean, I've been on the brunt of Rinna

being a bitch and horrible

and saying mean things and attacking,

and it's not nice.

It's not exactly like she's...

just the victim here, you know?

- But that's what she plays. She does these things,

and then she plays the victim. - But you can see

how that went down.

You can see how... - Well, I'm sorry.

But she can see how it went down for me.

- That's not good energy, and that's not what you do.

If you're preaching that kind of thing,

then, you know... - I think it tells us all

where she's at. - I think it does.

And you know what? You just showed yourself.

You just showed your true colors.

Good for you. I hope you feel good about it.

Let's go.

- Why don't you go talk to her and tell her,

explain why you're superstitious...

- Tell her to come back. - Or I will.

- All right. - Yeah.

- Just explain why, because...

- Are you gonna bring the bunny?

- Explain why... why.

- All right. Where is she?

- That bunny makes me laugh so much.

I mean, it's... it's terrible!

[edgy music]

♪ ♪

- Can I talk to you? - No.

- Next time, the reunion concludes.

- You have a very big mouth.

- Dorit, shut up. So do you.

[both gasp] - I will not apologize

for anything my sister's done, because it's not me.

- With all due, you could use a Xanax.

- I'd love one.

- Xanax puts me out for 15 hours.

- This is the bag of pills? - The bag of pills.

- Mine is much more exciting.

- Dorit, so to clarify,

did you see any drugs at your party?

♪ ♪

What has Max decided to do?

- [sniffling] Um...

- We're not acting here. This is real.

- Yes, I know that, Kim. - The faces that you guys do...

- Have you seen your face?

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