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Previously on...
- Thank you so much for your donation.
These guys are here because of you.
- Can I say our lives have gone to the dogs?
Yeah, I think that'd be appropriate.
- He actually just pooped himself.
- On me?
Lisa, you would remember
if you said Kim's close to death.
- I don't know.
- Lisa...
- You either said it or you didn't, okay?
Let's get that part straight.
- You've got to tell facts only.
- Eden went over to Lisa Vanderpump's,
and she was basically saying that you're close to death
and your family knows it.
- Do not go behind my back
and talk about me with these other women
and then expect me to be there for you.
- I didn't say anything that wasn't said in the store.
I don't make sh... up.
[light music]
- The crown is heavy, darlings,
so just leave it where it belongs.
♪ ♪
- I may be two people, but I'm not two-faced.
♪ ♪
- My advice to you: don't hustle the hustler.
♪ ♪
- I speak no evil,
but I see and hear everything.
♪ ♪
- When you've traveled the world,
you can speak in any accent you want.
♪ ♪
- I'm an expert on luxury,
and I can always spot a fake.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- My gosh, how we coming along?
- Uh, almost done.
- For a long time, it looked like
a poltergeist was living in here.
If we could write specifically what's in there,
like "green zebra martini glasses,"
because otherwise, if I can't see them,
I'll never use them again.
I hired someone to help me organize the garage,
because my husband wants me
to just throw everything in the trash.
He's like, "Oh, kids' homework?
Baby photos? Trash."
All my entertaining, my glasses.
- Glasses. - See, I need all this stuff.
He doesn't get it.
I had wall-to-wall
of VHS tapes
of every cartoon ever made.
I'm like, "I don't know if I can get those again."
I won't be having any more kids,
so I don't need those little chairs.
Oh, look at all those.
I didn't even know about all that silverware.
Oh, my gosh, why do I have other people's photos in here?
There's a lot of memorabilia in there.
Does that make me a hoarder?
Hi. What are you doing?
- Oh, f... off.
- [laughs]
You're so darling.
I need you to come tomorrow night,
because Carnie Wilson from Wilson Phillips,
she is an unbelievable dessert chef,
and I'm gonna do a dessert tasting with her
tomorrow here at the house.
Carnie Wilson and I met
while we were doing "Celebrity Apprentice,"
and I was always a big fan of Wilson Phillips.
I would be on the set of "Celebrity Apprentice,"
and I would be going around singing Wilson Phillips songs
and Boy George songs.
And then I would catch myself,
like, "Oh, my God, that was so embarrassing."
- There's no point inviting Rinna.
- Oh, by the way, I already invited Rinna.
Oh, my God, you're so bad.
I actually invited Rinna and even Eden.
Can you believe it?
- Well, then we're okay. They were talking.
- What about me?
I'm the one who should be annoyed with her...
And my sister... but I figured...
- Well, have you invited your sister as well?
- Yes.
- Oh.
I'm busy. - You are coming.
We're gonna have fun, okay?
Under normal circumstances,
this would not be the ideal time
to have everyone get together.
But we did say we all do have to sit down
and hash it out.
- You know, at some point, let's all sit down
and deal with some stuff that we need to deal with, I think.
Be a good idea. - I think it's a good idea.
- Yeah.
- Put everybody in the room together.
No one can lie.
- Hold on one second.
- I can't be holding on for you like this.
I have things to do in my life, you know.
Hello?
[upbeat music]
- Did you want a cup of coffee?
- Yeah, please.
You want a cup or not?
- No, I'm good.
I have all the scenes printed out and ready to go.
- Yes, very organized.
This is great that you got her the job. That's nice.
- She is so authentically excited about it,
and I never anticipated her being that excited about it.
- What?
- Do you want to be on my show?
- F..., yeah, I want to be on your show!
Are you serious? - Awesome!
Plus, you know, she was, like, raised on soap operas,
like "All My Children" and everything,
so she has an affinity for 'em.
[doorbell rings]
Hi, there. - Hello.
- Have you been standing out here long?
- Hi, there. - Hey, babe, how are you?
Both: Nice to see you. - Thank you. You too.
- Welcome. - Come on in.
I'm not sure exactly when
Erika's part's gonna be written into a script,
but usually you read for the part...
- Listen, I have been pulling strings
and setting traps for years.
- A few weeks later, they kind of come up
with the story, the character.
And then they write the scene around that.
Well, how was the Project Angel Food thing?
- Okay, well... - Was it fun?
- Yeah.
[laughter]
What I mean by that is,
I'm not very good in the kitchen.
- Wipe the top, and then we'll open it.
Then we'll drain it, and then you'll chop it.
- Okay.
You don't want me making food,
because you'd probably die.
- Now we're gonna act.
- Oh, sh..., okay.
Hey, Vinny, be easy.
Don't be all critical and sh... - Easy?
You are a natural. - Critical and sh...?
- Please. - I'll let you be Codi.
I'm really excited and nervous
knowing that I'm gonna be working with Erika.
I feel kind of a responsibility,
because I brought her on "Young and Restless" ship.
Codi is like a millennial smart-ass.
- Oh, I like millennials, yes.
It makes me 15 years younger.
- But Erika can handle it.
I just know she will, and even though
she might have some insecurity about it,
I think deep down inside, she knows that she can do this.
- Yeah, well, and how do you think I look this way?
Every morning, I look in the mirror,
and I said, "Codi, 25, 25, 25."
You know, you should try it.
When I'm performing on stage,
I'm screaming; I'm yelling;
I'm dancing; I'm singing; I'm tossing my hair.
[crowd cheering]
You know, all eyes on me.
- You build confidence by knowing it.
Now you kind of know who that person is,
so now just do it again.
- When you're acting for TV,
it's two completely different things.
I have to listen. Imagine that.
You know, like, how do you think I keep looking this way?
Like, every morning, I look into the mirror,
I'm like, you know, "Codi, you're 25, 25, 25."
You should try it. - I have to go.
Isn't she great? - She's great.
- I know. - You're great.
You could be working all the time.
I could manage you. - [laughs]
- You're great!
Fantastic.
- You're sweet. Thank you so much.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
[phone line rings]
- Hello?
- Hi, Harry Hamlin.
- Hi, Lisa Rinna.
- So I need you to take the kids to school.
- I love taking the kids to school.
- I know. Okay.
Well, I am going over to Kyle's house,
and all of the girls are gonna be there tonight.
Like, all of them... Kim, everybody.
- Oh. - So...
- Well, you're getting along fine with Kim, aren't you?
- Well, I am, and that's the thing.
Um, you know what we discussed a little bit
about my meeting with Eden the other day
and what happened in Mexico and...
You know, you have to have a "come to Jesus" moment,
so I think I've figured it out.
I mean, I swear to God
I don't remember saying any of these things to Eden.
I met with Eden right after game night,
so, yeah, I was pretty fired up.
But I also don't think
Eden would lie.
You know, if it had happened, you know, a couple weeks later,
I had calmed down by then.
I thought about it.
I thought about everything that was said,
as much as I could remember, and there was a lot said.
- Well, I can see how your buttons got pushed
if Kim was mean to you.
- You went after my husband.
- I never said anything about your husband.
- Are you kidding me? - Never said a word about him.
- Well, let's talk about your arrest.
Why don't we do that?
To see Eden after game night,
I'm sure I could have said everything.
I could have said even more.
I was spouting off my feelings.
I was really coming from a place of connecting with Eden
because she's sober and because she had her sister die.
And so we connected on that level.
And I think that Kim knows.
I'm sure someone has told her,
because Eden went to Vanderpump and told Vanderpump all this.
- So you think that she's gonna be angry
that you said she was close to death.
I mean, you've only been trying to help Kim
since the very beginning.
- Oh, I don't think they see it that way.
I don't think Kim sees it that way.
I think they see it as the opposite,
that I've only tried to hurt her and...
- Well, that's absurd.
Why would you try to hurt someone?
This is close to home, you know.
You have total empathy for this.
- In realizing
that I've said it,
I did say those things,
I now have to own it.
- Just be honest and truthful,
and speak from your heart.
- Okay.
That's not always an easy thing to admit,
but I tell the truth,
and I will always tell my truth
and stand by and stick to my truth.
So I have to go in there and say,
"You know what?
I said it."
- So what do you think's gonna happen tonight?
- I might be stoned to death, so in case that happens, just...
You know where my diamonds are.
- Coming up...
- You've been sober how long?
- 12 years.
I'm a foul-mouthed, crazy mother... er.
- That's why I love you.
- But I'm sober as hell.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- My God, look at it.
And the width of the building as well?
- It's massive, isn't it?
I'm meeting the landlord's agent here now.
♪ ♪
Hey, Shaya.
Tell me we've got it.
- You've got the lease.
- And we can definitely have dogs here?
- You can have dogs here.
You can have grooming here, shelter.
- See, I think what we're gonna do is,
we're gonna bring dogs in from the shelter...
- Okay.
- And have them here in the day
so they can play,
and then hopefully people adopt them.
We wanted to create a dog rescue center,
and I'm gonna make it feel more like a lifestyle shop,
and it's gonna have so much fun.
We're gonna have puppies there.
You can play with them.
It will be everything doggy.
Well, you see,
how we first started getting involved in this is,
we started Vanderpump Pets.
We also got very involved with stopping the dog torture
with the Yulin situation in Asia.
- Yeah, dog torture just destroys us.
We can't even think about it.
- It's just beyond. - We've got to stop it.
- We've got dogs... And near Hong Kong,
we infiltrated a truck with a lot of dogs on it.
They were going to the slaughterhouse,
and they were going to Yulin,
where they were gonna be tortured,
so we're trying to change it, and it's been a struggle.
The Yulin dog meat festival is a festival
where they believe in torturing the dogs,
because they believe that it stimulates the adrenaline,
which tenderizes the meat.
They also believe that it increases
the sexual prowess of a man
and cools the blood in the summer solstice.
It's bullsh...
And so, basically, I went to Congress to speak,
to say, "Hey, China, we see what you're doing,
and we're not okay with it."
The annual Yulin dog meat festival
is not just a celebration that looks at dogs as commodity
to be harvested, eaten, or sold.
It's a celebration of the vicious torture
and ten days of revelry in their suffering.
- Ken, good to see you again.
- And you.
- It's not about antagonizing China.
A lot of China is on our side.
It's barbarianism at its worst,
and we intend to stop it.
I don't want to turn into a crazy person, but...
- Well, I mean, you are a crazy person.
We're both crazy.
- If we can shine a light on this politically
and get the backing of the United States government
behind us, then we have a chance.
When I turn my back and they play that video,
I don't even know what they were playing.
- I saw it.
It's etched in my brain forever.
[crying]
- Well...
[soft music]
♪ ♪
How bad was it?
- It was f... ing terrible.
- Okay.
Oh.
- [breathes deeply]
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Well, here we are. Ready?
- Off we go. Yup. Precious cargo.
- Am I going first? - Yup.
Yum, smells delicious.
- Hi, everybody! Hi!
- How are you? - Nice to see you.
- Let's go ahead and get these in the freezer.
- Okay, hold them like brand-new...
- Like children. - There's four flavors.
- Okay. - Four flavors of cheesecakes.
- Carnie, hi. - Hi!
- We're talking about cheesecake.
- Yay! You guys met when we did "Apprentice."
- I remember. - Hi.
- And this is Tiffany. - Hi, Tiffany. How are you?
- Good to see you.
How cute are these?
- The fact that these are this big
and that the girls can, like, split them six ways
is gonna be perfect for their diets.
This is gonna be perfect.
- Oh, my God, your dog is swimming in the pool.
- It's gorgeous, right? Well, there's, like, 15...
- Perfect. - Maybe a little more coming.
I've been wanting you to meet my sister, Kim, forever.
- I can't wait. And she's sober right now?
- She's sober. - Good.
We'll have the wine to the side,
and we'll sit on that side.
- Well, but you never care...
You've been sober how long?
- 12 years.
- Were you ever sober and then you weren't
and then you were again? - No.
- As soon as you were sober, that was it.
- That was it. - That's really amazing.
- I know. - So my sister, Kim...
I don't know exactly how long she's been sober now.
It's been a while, but she's had periods
where she was sober for a very long time
and then she fell off.
- I know that, but, you know,
this is what I've done for 12 years.
I lead by example.
I mean, I'm a foul-mouthed, crazy mother... er.
- That's why I love you.
- But I'm sober as hell.
- [laughs]
Okay, I have to go change.
I cannot look like this.
- Okay, good. - I'm gonna go change.
- Mwah. - Oh, my God.
I love the wine. I love the flowers.
I love the food.
- I'm gonna stare at the backyard,
which is a park.
[upbeat music]
- Thank you.
- Oh, hey.
- Oh, hi.
- Oh, you brought a hostess gift.
- Well, not really. - I hate you.
- Not really. - What do you mean?
- I brought a baby gift.
- For Kim!
- It's a little bunny, and it's the thing
that I loved for the girls so much.
They loved it. They had a pink one.
You know, whether she burns the thing after,
I don't know.
It's not my place to ask.
Cuts the ears off, cuts the head off.
I don't know. Might happen.
Voodoo doll, stabs things in it...
Might happen, but...
I think she's having... I think it's a boy.
- This is adorable.
- Like, if it gets to the baby, that'd be a good thing.
♪ ♪
- I'm coming.
♪ ♪
Hi. - Hello.
- How are you?
- Good. How are you?
- Good. - This is Clare.
- Clare. - Nice to meet you.
- I'm Kyle. - How are you?
- Nice to meet you.
I've heard about Kim's sponsor, Clare,
but I have not met her before,
and I think that maybe Kim brought her
as not only her friend but as some sort of security.
There's Carnie. - How are you?
- Oh, it's so good to see you. - You too.
And this is Clare. - Hi, Clare.
- Kim bringing her sponsor with her,
it also sends a message to the other people
who are questioning her or gossiping about her
that she's on the right track.
Carnie has been sober for 12 years.
- 12. - Wow.
- She was saying that when she quit drinking,
that she transferred that to baking.
- I did gain, like, 40 pounds after that,
but, you know, it's rather than being dead.
- Honey, I'm hoping I have my Teflon on.
- Why? What's up? - Let me tell you.
- Oh, God.
- I got to share it with you,
because you're the one
that came to my room in Mexico,
and you said, "You need to get your facts.
You need to figure it out."
I had to really start to think about, "Okay,
"how could I have said what Eden said?
"I don't think Eden is lying.
I have to take a look at what is being said."
- Yeah.
- Okay? So...
- Okay.
- I met with Eden, and...
- After Mexico. - Okay.
- So this is what I've come up with.
As much as I can figure it out, um...
I think I said everything.
- Oh.
- Coming up...
- You don't think of the consequences
for other people.
- But it was out there, Kim.
- It doesn't matter.
- Pick a lane. Pick a lane.
- I remember on "Apprentice,"
do you remember how hyper we were?
- And you were running up the stairs.
First of all, I was out of breath.
I couldn't even... I was like: [wheezes]
- "Oh, my God, where's"...
- But it was perfect, though. We did well.
Arnold is a trip.
- He was scary, because you're, like, thinking
you're talking to the Terminator.
- And all I could think about to calm my nervous
was, like, "He must have a little penis.
He must have a little penis."
Like, that's all I could think about to calm...
I think about something crazy.
- We should ask a few people and get back to her.
Okay, great. I know a few people.
- You look adorable. - Thank you.
This is so cute.
- I think I said everything.
- Oh.
- [sighs]
- I hate hearing this.
Kim's gonna kill her.
Sh..., I would.
[laughs]
It's tough, you know?
Yeah, she's gonna get f... ed up.
The baby present is a nice gesture.
I hope she knows it. - I hope she'll accept it.
- Yeah, right? - You know? I mean...
- Well, she will. She's not...
- You know, but, Erika,
'cause she obviously knows by this point.
- Yeah, you're gonna get it tonight.
- I know. For sure.
- [laughs]
- F... you.
- [laughing]
[upbeat music]
- Crab cakes working, right?
Caviar station. We got the eggs.
- Ooh, yum! Wow.
Crab cakes.
- I'm literally always hungry.
- I'm so worried about the food, I don't care about the napkin.
- This is like we're having cheeseburgers.
This is way too much stuff.
- I'm very excited about this.
- You are? - Uh-huh.
Mm, I love this.
I love caviar...
Like, the little tiny thingies
and then the sour cream
and then the onions
and the little things and the egg.
Could I tell you any more how much I love caviar?
- Tell me right now.
- So I have a question.
Did you invite Eden tonight?
- I did. - Really?
- Yeah, she was at the...
- Oh, right, right.
- And we were talking about it,
so I was just, like, in the moment.
I said, "If you would like to come, come."
With Carnie Wilson, I'm doing a dessert tasting.
She started a new dessert line.
I'm going to do a little thing for her at my house.
I'd love to have all of you there.
It's only confusing 'cause you're like,
"She said, she said."
But the truth is... and I know you're close with Rinna,
and I'm friends with Rinna too,
but these are things that she said before,
which is why it's hard for me.
Let me ask you your opinion.
You can be honest.
Did you think that Kim didn't seem sober
at the game night?
- I thought she was... I thought she has been sober
every time I've seen here.
- That's what I'm saying.
- Two years ago,
Kim's behavior was erratic.
- You don't even know what you're doing.
You stupid...
- I don't know what I'm doing.
- F... you.
Don't f... ing call me stupid.
- Don't start me with... don't. - Jesus, Kim.
- We haven't really seen
any of that kind of behavior recently
except maybe at game night,
but I don't think that had anything to do
with her sobriety at all.
I never got once that Lisa Rinna was thinking
that Kim was struggling, ever.
So that's why the whole thing is just weird to me.
It's illogical.
- Hi, Dorit.
Look at you, all bombshell.
- Oh. - How are you?
Mwah! Good to see you.
- Hi, darling. - Hi.
- So your daughter's gonna give birth any minute.
- Yeah.
- Will this be your first grandchild?
- Yes. - What in the hell are you...
Oh, my God, and how great that you're clear-minded for it.
- A year ago, I couldn't have been there for this experience.
I can't guarantee that I could have, you know,
gotten in the car at any hour.
- Uh-huh, no.
- It's crazy. It's crazy to think of that,
'cause I never looked at it like that.
- I was sitting there, getting ready tonight,
and my daughter, she clocked the shoes,
and she's like... and it was like Speedy Gonzales.
And I said, "Oh, my God."
I caught, like, the tail end.
- Oh, my God. [laughs] - So cute.
- She grabs the shoe, and then she looks over at me
with this look.
She's like, "Yes."
- I love it.
- Well, she was trying to say,
"Mommy, I need a pair of these."
- Exactly. - It's adorable.
I have to say that is the cutest thing ever.
- Hi, gorgeous. - Hey, ditto.
How are you?
- How are you? - Sweetheart.
- Hello.
- Thank you so much.
- I almost wore red shoes too.
That would have been three of us.
Hello. How are you?
- I'm wonderful. How are you?
- Good. Nice to see you.
Lisa.
- Lisa Vanderpump.
- Hello. Happy birthday to you.
- Thank you. Happy birthday.
- This is for your grandson.
- I was beginning to wonder if it existed.
- I know Kim loves children.
She is going to be addicted to that grandbaby.
This is gonna be a good addiction,
and she's gonna follow through on that; trust me.
- How are you, honey? - We've met before.
- Oh, we have? - Yes.
- Where did we meet?
- We met, actually, and we were buying baby stuff.
- Hi, honey. - How are you?
Nice to see you. Oh, sorry.
- Hi, Clare.
- Nice to meet you.
- How are you? - Good, thank you.
- Everything good?
- Eden absolutely
makes my skin crawl.
- I can't wait to see pictures of the baby being born,
and it's gonna be the best day of your whole life.
- The most exciting time of my... - Ever.
- The relationships I have,
the space I'm in,
I pretty much removed all negative people
out of my life.
For Eden to repeat
Lisa's lie is so icky and horrible.
- You know how we'll, like...
We're gonna encounter a lot of f... ing idiots.
But I... - Yes, I have.
[laughs]
- Would you ladies like some tuna tartar?
- No, honey.
- Coming up...
- Hi, Kyle. - What happened to you guys?
- Oh, Kyle. - What happened?
[funky music]
- Triple-cheese brie.
- I think the crab cakes are pretty good.
- I had one.
Take that away. - Oh, my God!
Kyle's, like, got caviar as well.
- Lisa, that's the most expensive thing
you've ever put in your mouth.
- Not really, darling. - Really?
What comes before it?
- Loads of things would supersede that.
[laughter]
[upbeat music]
- Hello, hello.
- Now I need a drink more than ever.
- Well, that was not very nice.
[people talking at once]
- Hello. - Rosé?
- What's that?
- I brought that for Kim's grandchild.
- Trying to be nice?
- Really?
Of course.
I mean, I think it's a wonderful moment.
- It is. I just gave her a present too.
- And so, you know, I loved this bunny for my kids.
- Okay, well, I'll give her that from me.
- [laughs]
It's probably better coming from you, actually,
but I...
- Off you go.
- Oh, well, yeah.
- Good place to start. Come on, then.
- Where is she? Is she here?
- She's there, waiting for you.
- Is she? Let's do it.
- No, no, get a drink first.
- They're out here. Come say hello.
- Oh, good.
- Look at you with that evil laugh.
- Hi!
- Hi, sweetie. - It's so good to see you.
- Good to see you.
- Are you spying?
- Tell us what's going on. Quick.
- Hi. - Hello.
Nice to see you. - Nice to see you.
- This is for your grandchild.
- Oh, thank you.
Thank you. That's very sweet.
- You're welcome.
- A lot of smiles. - Really?
- Now she's shaking someone's hand.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. I'm Lisa.
- Lisa is so fake.
I can't even... you know,
she says these horrible things about me:
I'm near death.
I'm enabled by my sister.
I'm not sober.
And she hands me a bunny.
[sighs]
[upbeat music]
- Hi, Camille. How are you?
- How are you?
- Nice to see you.
- Hello. How are you? - Hey, beautiful.
- Hello, hello, hello.
Hi, sweetheart. Mwah!
Hi!
It's so nice to meet you!
- We're having food first.
- Coming for the potatoes?
- Yeah, I am. - I know you love potatoes.
- Oh, my God, yes, this is so good.
♪ ♪
Want to go? - Yeah.
To deal with Lisa is one thing.
I can't even look at her.
I can't even look at Eden.
There's something about people in recovery.
It's that we don't beat each other down.
We build each other up, and we support each other.
Lisa, you know Jana.
Have you meet Dorit yet?
Oh, yeah, she was at your birthday.
- Yes, Jana. - She came with Lisa Rinna.
We're both friends. - Yes, that's right.
- When is this baby coming?
- She was cramping this morning. - Oh, perfect.
- I know. I'm like...
- Perfect. - Good job, good job.
- She's due any day.
- Yeah, she's dilated, so we're just waiting.
- I think we should talk to Eden.
[various conversations]
- Do you?
I got to tell you.
'Cause I feel like I didn't get to talk to you.
- What's going on? - Sit down.
Sit down with me. - I have no idea.
- I talked to Erika about it,
'cause I rode over with Erika.
It's something that I've just really come to.
You know, I met with Eden on Friday,
and I'm trying to... I'm wracking my brain,
going, "How could I have possibly said these things?"
Did I say she was on... She was close to death?
I do not remember saying that.
- You said that she's an addict close to death.
- She was adamant that I said that.
You know that night in the Hamptons
when we went around the table and we said,
"What keeps you up at night?"
And when Kyle said, "That phone call"...
- I had my limit.
I'm like, "I can't talk about my sister anymore."
Like, that's what tortures me.
That's what keeps me up at night.
And everyone knows that; there's no hiding from that.
- You worry about your sister.
- Oh, God. - Yeah.
- Every time my phone rang in the night,
I thought they were gonna say, "Your sister's gone."
- You're right.
- You know, I had a long talk with Harry about it today,
and we've had, between us, three people die.
- It definitely makes you more sensitive.
- You know, we've had that phone call.
We've all had it.
- You're on high alert.
- [sighs]
Eileen, I said it.
You could... I know.
- Oy.
You did say it.
- I said... I said it.
I said all of it.
- That changes a lot.
I'm surprised.
And I'm... I'm disappointed
that Lisa Rinna has put herself in this position again.
- I really meant well.
I really did.
I really mean well.
- I know you do,
and the fact that I know that always...
- And I thank you for that, because it's so frustrating.
- I'm sorry. - I know. It sucks.
- I love you so much.
- Oh, Eileen, you're such a good friend.
- I think what Lisa Rinna is doing
takes major balls.
Her good parts are much bigger and much better than her bad.
And she always owns it,
and there still is something to be said for that.
[upbeat music]
- Hello, everybody.
- Hello. - Hi!
- Has everyone eaten?
I tried to have a lot of food pass so that...
- We have, and thank you so much.
- Thank you guys all for being here.
I just really want to support Carnie
and get the word out.
So, Carnie, are you gonna say something?
- Okay, really quickly, this company is...
It means so much more than just desserts.
I just found, like, baking made me happy.
And then, of course, they're little
and they're made with love,
and I want to, you know, let people know, like,
you don't have to be so neurotic,
be like, "No! I can't have it."
Just have a little bite.
♪ ♪
Oh, is that key lime? What is that?
These are orange creamsicle.
- I need to know, how many flavors are we tasting?
- Where did Lisa Rinna go? - How many flavors are there?
- She's with Eileen; they're talking in your living room.
- This is the strawberry almond.
- I'll be right back.
- Oh, my God, that is so yummy.
- Hi, Kyle.
- What happened to you guys?
- Oh, Kyle.
- What happened? Something wrong?
- We're trying to figure out, um...
- Did something...
- Well... - No, everything's okay.
- I mean, it is, but it isn't.
I mean, I don't know how to approach this situation.
When I met with Eden,
knowing that she had lost a sister,
I said some things that...
I... I said... - Girls?
Girls? Okay, sorry to interrupt you.
- Yes.
- But why are you not out there right now?
We're literally sampling.
Why is she not out there?
- Okay, I'll come.
- I'm holding this in my f... ing hand.
Look at this.
- Ah, it's my time of reckoning.
- Coming up...
- A sober person doesn't act like that.
[dramatic music]
- Why are you not out there right now?
We're literally sampling.
Why is she not out there?
- Okay, I'll come.
- I'm holding this in my f... ing hand.
Look at this.
There's four you have to try. Come on.
- I feel like
dead man walking.
- Sit down, darling. - Thank you, baby.
- Aren't they beautiful? - Gorgeous.
- They taste better than they look, even.
- So who needs men when you have your dessert?
- Exactly. [laughter]
- Is that cheesecake buying me jewelry?
[laughs]
- No cheesecake is gonna buy me diamonds, sorry.
- That's chocolate hazelnut.
- Yeah, all of it's very good.
- Um...
Kim, I have to say something.
I want to say something, if I can say something to you.
- Yeah, I would appreciate it.
- You've probably heard some things,
and, um...
I want to say that after game night,
in the heat of the moment,
I met with Eden,
and I said some things that I didn't remember exactly.
Um...
and now that I've had time to think about it
and to talk to Harry about it,
I said them.
- Lisa Rinna flat-out lied to me in Mexico.
Did you or did you not say
that my sister is close to death
and that she is not 100% sober
and that I'm an enabler?
- I do not ever remember saying that.
- That is not something that you say
and you just forget that you said it.
Lisa, you're always saying things,
and then it's like, "Oh, I said it,
and I'm sorry."
You told Eden that I am near death,
that I am not in a good place.
That is so uncalled for.
- Well, I see that you're in a good place now.
I really do.
This was in the heat of the moment,
right after game night.
It was coming from a place where I felt very safe with Eden.
We are two people who've lost sisters.
We lost our sisters to overdoses.
- Yeah, but you feel safe saying something about her.
Of course you feel safe.
I'd feel safe maligning somebody else.
- I wasn't maligning.
- "Oh, yes.
"I... I do remember saying Kim's near death.
"Oh, yeah, I remember that now.
It just kind of, you know, slipped my mind."
- You were provoking me,
and I didn't understand that.
- But what did she do?
I mean, what did she do that night?
- Do you remember it?
[laughs]
- That's not nice either.
- I certainly don't remember her doing anything
to garner that kind of, you know, judgment.
It's just like a sh... little dig, you know?
Okay, Rinna.
Well, when the spotlight is on you,
let's just do everything we can to deflect.
- You don't think of the consequences
for other people.
My children are affected.
My sisters are affected.
My friends are affected.
My grandchild will be affected.
This is my sponsor, Lisa.
So you know, this is Clare.
- Hi, Clare.
- I wanted Clare to be with me 'cause I wanted her support.
- Good. - This is so treacherous.
- Well, Kim, you have to know
that I have only wanted to move on with you.
- But you were contesting her sobriety.
- This was after...
You know, after game night...
- But so you make that judgment call?
- Yeah, it wasn't necessarily a fair judgment call.
- But it was a judgment, though, Lisa.
- Yes, it was, Lisa.
Vanderpump's getting a kick out of it.
It's like Rinna digging herself a hole
and jumping on in it,
and she's like, "Oh, yes. I love it."
Normally,
in the moment of that,
a sober person doesn't act like that.
- That's not true. - Oh, my gosh.
- What was she acting like?
- Are you sober, Lisa?
- No.
- Do you know how a sober person feels and acts?
- Anyone who saw my sister at game night
could see that my sister was sober.
You lied, and now you're trying to cover your ass.
- And you, being in recovery, go around and repeat it.
- No.
- Sober woman to sober woman, repeated...
- Repeated our conversation to everybody?
- To Lisa. - She did.
- To Lisa. - But it was out there, Kim.
- It doesn't matter.
- That's not true, Lisa.
Pick a lane. Pick a lane. Pick a lane.
[tense music]
- If Rinna had already said it to Eden,
you know it's gonna get back,
so why is Eden in so much trouble for repeating it?
I think the crux of the matter is the fact
that Rinna said it in the first place.
- You and I have never had the chance to heal.
- No, we haven't.
- We have never had the chance to heal.
- But how can we? - I do think we can.
I mean, your sponsor's here.
I think there is a chance to heal,
is there not, Clare?
- I think there's always hope.
There is a point at which
maybe you need to let go of your resentment
or everybody just needs to move on.
- I mean, I want to be able to forgive
and come from a place of true love for you.
I do.
- That's pretty far. I mean, let's not push it.
- But isn't it all about love, in the end?
- No, it's actually not.
Not everybody has to love each other.
Just don't make up stories and spread bad rumors.
- Oh. - Okay.
- She was simply saying, by your behavior
the night before, "Do you think she's sober?"
And the words that came out of my mouth is...
- Let me ask you a question.
How would you feel if I said,
behind your back,
that "I don't know if I know Eden is sober"?
- You don't need to know if I'm sober or not.
I know I'm sober.
- Well, if you claim you're sober
and then my sister says she's sober
and you're all judging her, then we can equally judge you.
- I'm not judging her.
You can judge me all you want,
'cause you have to stay in that; I don't.
- I wasn't doing this.
You're the one who came in with judgment.
- Wait, hold on. I didn't come in judging you.
I came in very open-hearted and was hugging you...
[women arguing]
- Jumped into business that you had nothing to know about,
telling me that I was attacking Lisa...
- I saw two women go at it, and I thought it was insane!
- You came after me all last year.
- You know what? The truth is the truth.
- Excuse me. I'm talking right now.
You never really, sincerely said you were sorry, Lisa.
- You never sincerely said you were sorry to me, Kim.
- You don't know our history!
- I'm talking to your sister!
Can I just talk to her?
If someone comes at me
telling me she's close to death,
Kyle's an enabler, like, wh...
As a recovering alcoholic,
that would not be right if I turned my back.
- And, by the way, you're not Kim and Kyle Richards, okay?
Don't get confused here,
that, you know, I get the Catya and Eden story...
- Oh, have some compassion
for someone who lost her sister.
- She's gone. Kim.
- Kim knew her.
She can't say she's not compassionate about that.
- Her sister died. - Rinna, stop with that.
- Guys. - Stop with that.
No, no, you need to stop with that.
You're trying to make it seem
like she's not being compassionate.
Hold on. No.
Just to be clear, it has nothing to do
with not being compassionate.
She was comparing the two situations.
- But can you see how she...
- No, I can't. - You can't see how she...
- No, I can't. - You can't see?
- You're bringing
your relationship with her into ours.
I can't imagine what you must have gone through,
losing your sister.
That is horrific, and I met your sister,
and she was a beautiful girl.
It must have been a nightmare for you.
What I'm saying is, you can't compared
your situation with ours.
- You're absolutely right.
- That's all we're both saying.
- You're absolutely right.
- So don't say it's a lack of compassion, Lisa.
- In that moment, it seemed a little rough,
I'm gonna just say.
It's not what Kim is saying.
It's how she's saying it.
It sounds to me
not compassionate.
- All I can say is, when I make a mistake,
I make an amends for it and I own it.
And I also have to have compassion
that everybody has their own pace of doing things.
I have so many reasons to be resentful
and not forgive people,
but if I held on to that, I'm drunk.
- I'm not gonna hold on to it, but she put it out there.
- No, I know. - It affects my family.
- It's like a domino effect. I get it. I get it.
- I understand that.
How do you think it felt when you said
what you said about my husband?
- I never said anything about your husband
except "Do you want to talk about him?"
[tense music]
- Coming up...
- I feel like it's almost... It was like a death for me.
- Every ounce of my being wants to move on.
How do you think it felt
when you said what you said about my husband?
- I never said anything about your husband
except "Do you want to talk about him?"
- You never said anything,
but it was implying something.
It was making people wonder, which is what upset her.
- I have no answers why Kim can't just admit
that she was trying to insinuate something
about Lisa's husband.
And every time we talk about it,
it's obvious what she was doing to everybody.
Kim's too smart not to know what she was doing.
- It even hurt Harry,
even though he would never say it did.
But do you know how many people have come up to him
and said, "What did you do?"
Imagine that in your life.
So it did hurt our family, so I understand...
- And I've said I'm sorry for that.
I have said that to you so many times, Lisa.
I don't have anything... I don't know anything.
- I... I get it now.
I accept your apology.
I accept it. Thank you.
- Great. So that's good.
Lisa Rinna's kind of like a cat with nine lives.
I mean, she just keeps coming back, man.
I don't know how many lives she has left.
I'm gonna be an alcoholic by the time this sh... 's over.
- Just to be an outsider, this is fascinating,
and it breaks my heart.
I just think that there's areas of the sensitivity
that it's like you can't break past that,
but that's where compassion comes in.
I mean, they've lost sisters.
You have to be compassionate for that.
If they judge a little too quickly,
it's 'cause there's... it's all fear and sadness in there,
and that's their character defect
that they have to kind of go... We want to go, "Whoa.
Check. I'm doing that again."
Which you did, right?
And then you guys have to understand
that we drank for reasons.
We are a little bit f... king loony, okay?
We're wired this way.
That's why we needed alcohol to calm it down.
So we're never gonna be totally normal.
There's no perfect.
There's just no perfect, you know?
- I just can't have my world out there again
being, you know, as hard as I worked this last year.
And so I won't stand back.
I am going to stand up for myself,
'cause sometimes when I have been put in that situation,
I have felt like I was gonna die.
And I get very defensive.
I feel like it's almost... It was like a death for me,
going through some of the things I went through
during certain times for me day after day.
- I'm sorry that I hurt you.
That, I am truly sorry for, Kim.
I was really trying not to talk about you,
and I was really trying to come from that place.
I mean, I did have that moment after game night.
I don't want to go there.
- I know that.
I do know that. I do know that.
And that's why I came to you, and you listened,
but it wasn't because I wanted to hurt you at all.
- I think we all... don't we all want to move on?
Don't we all want to heal this situation?
- What can we do, Kim?
- Besides just stop talking about it.
- No, it's fine. I'm so over it.
- We just have to stop.
- I just feel like it's always...
You know, there comes a time
that it just has to end.
- Can it end? Can we end it?
Truly, from this moment on,
every ounce of my being wants to move on.
Truly, from this moment on.
- You know, mean it.
Say it and mean it.
You know what I'm saying?
- I do.
- If somebody really says to you,
"I want to prove it by my actions,"
that's sorry.
Saying, "I own it, and I want to move on,
and that was then and this is now,"
that doesn't nullify everything.
You break a plate. You put it back together.
Is it the same? No, it's not.
- She's baring it.
She's really telling you.
She's really baring it. She's telling you.
- I hear that.
And you may take a while to get to complete forgiveness,
but she's owning it,
and yeah.
- I mean, look at what cheesecakes can do.
[laughter]
[applause]
- Cheers to the cheesecakes.
- Yes!
- The healing cheesecakes.
- Next time on...
[lively music]
- Whoo!
♪ ♪
- I love your hair.
- That's the first compliment
I've ever gotten from you ever.
- That's not true.
I mean, is she keeping score?
- If you give me your feathers now,
I know that you're coming to Hong Kong.
Yes.
I think I can manipulate the sh... out of her.
I wonder if she'd carry my bags.
- I get accused of being cold 'cause I don't cry.
- Nah.
- My mother was hard on me.
She never really cut me any breaks.
I wasn't allowed to be a baby.
- But it made you a tough old bird.
- Is that what it did?
- Yeah.
Oh, sweetheart.
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