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Man: Okay, Jazz, we're ready for you.
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- Do I sit right here?
- Yeah.
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Doing good.
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- Are you nervous?
- I'm a little nervous now.
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All right. Jazz interview, take 1, mark.
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Man: How would you describe yourself?
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[Breathes deeply]
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I am a teenage girl.
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I'm also a soccer player.
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I'm also an artist.
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I'd like to think I'm funny.
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I love hanging out with my friends.
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I'm also transgender,
and I'm proud of that.
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But, you know, in the end,
all these things come together
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and really just make me Jazz.
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So, I am Jazz.
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Jeanette: Girls, come on down!
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You can help me.
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- Hello.
- Hello.
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You want to be the onion cutter, right?
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No, I don't want to cry.
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You guys know where the boys are?
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I think they're outside playing.
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Hey, everyone. Pizza and wings are here.
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- Yeah.
- Now that's the good stuff.
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Griffen: I'm following you.
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Jeanette, where do you want this?
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Outside.
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Hi. I'm Jeanette,
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and this is my husband, Greg.
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And we've known each other
for a really long time.
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We grew up in the same hometown.
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He was three doors down,
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and I was going into first grade,
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and he was going into kindergarten.
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I am the older woman.
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So he used to "play" with my brother
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and didn't want to hang out with me.
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But then... You can tell what happened.
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Actually, that's not correct.
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Jeanette was the older girl next door,
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and I did want to play with Jeanette.
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Well, where's Daddy sitting?
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I'll sit here.
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Greg: Ari, beat it.
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That chair's wet.
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You're only here for a couple days.
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This one has schmutz on it.
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Oh, look... I resolved it.
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I'm a mom of four wonderful children.
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I have Ari, who is 19.
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Family together time.
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Let's make a toast to Ari
being home for spring break.
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Jazz: Okay. We love you, Ari.
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When you go away to college,
and then you come back
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for spring break, you'll
see it's not the same.
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- Right, Ari?
- Right.
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Sander and Griffen are twins.
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It's interesting to watch them
'cause they're identical twins,
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but they're very different.
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Griffen is... You'll always catch him
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whistling around the house.
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And Sander, you'll probably find
him in front of the mirror...
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[Both laugh]
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Looking at himself.
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That's good.
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I mean, I hope you guys all
end up at the same school.
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- That would be kind of cool.
- That would be easy.
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Greg: It would just be one
place that we could go visit.
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So, what's your hardest class right now?
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Math.
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What math are you taking, Jazz?
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Geometry.
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Sander: What's the joke?
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It's what did the acorn
say to the squirrel?
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"Gee, I'm a tree."
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Jeanette: Our family is goofy.
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We laugh a lot, we love
a lot, we cry a lot,
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and we're just very typical
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with an extraordinary circumstance
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because we have a daughter
that's transgender,
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which is very rare.
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Greg: There he is.
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It's a boy for sure.
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Before Jazz was named
Jazz, Jazz was named Jaron.
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That was Jazz's birth name.
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Aww, my foursome.
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My four men.
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- Look at my four men.
- Give me five.
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I'd like to stop time right now.
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When I heard we were having a boy...
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[Laughs] Look at that cute little face.
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I was ecstatic.
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I mean, I... I'm... I
like having little guys
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to throw baseballs around with
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and kick soccer balls and throw a football.
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You had a foursome for tennis and for golf.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We're gonna keep you, little guy.
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We want to keep this baby.
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Wasn't Jazz the cutest little thing?
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Wasn't she?
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Now you've grown up into a
nice blossoming big girl now.
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I used to call you dimple baby
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'cause you have those cute little dimples.
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- I have one.
- They're still there.
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Is it this one?
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Remember, you used to hold
her, you're like, "my baby.
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This is my baby."
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- So cool.
- And then you dropped me.
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We found out many years
later that Ari dropped Jazz.
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Greg: You know what? I
have something to tell you.
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I dropped you.
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Ari: Since I can remember,
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Jazz always just gravitated
towards girly things.
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We'd dress her up as a boy. Nope.
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Dress, dress.
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Like, it's crazy.
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Wearing my shoes, my little slippers.
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At that point in time,
I just was in denial.
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I was probably like most
people who would think...
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is that it was just a passing phase.
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I could distinctly remember
being at the front door,
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Jazz was dressed in a dress,
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and I just wasn't leaving the house.
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And I just wasn't prepared to go out
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and let her go out into
society dressed as a girl.
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I'll never forget, one
day, I was at the computer,
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and Jazz came up to me, and she said,
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"mom, when is the good fairy
gonna come with her magic wand
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and change my penis into a vagina?"
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And I was really confused.
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You know, I have this
2-year-old coming up to me
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and saying, "I'm a girl."
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Like, I had a pit inside of my stomach.
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I'm like, "my kid is not 'normal.'
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I mean, this is not normal."
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Jazz: They took me to the
doctor when I was 3 years old,
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and she held up two dolls.
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One doll was a girl and had girl parts,
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and one doll was a boy and had boy parts,
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and she said, "which
do you have right now?"
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And I pointed to the boy doll.
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And then she said, "which do you want?"
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And I pointed to the girl doll.
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I would say that I have a
girl brain and a boy body,
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and I think like a girl,
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but I... But I just have a boy body,
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and it's different than you.
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"Losing" the idea of my
little boy was really hard.
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There were days when I
was just crying and sad,
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and I remember very well.
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It's very raw.
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I did force her to go to
school dressed like a boy.
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I was not allowed to by the school,
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and I wasn't quite ready when she was three
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to let her just dress as a
girl to school all the time.
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We just weren't there.
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One day, she came up to
me, and she just says to me,
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"Mommy, will you do my hair for me?
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Can you make it into two ponytails?"
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And I made these two Pippi
Longstocking ponytails.
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She was so cute, and she just looked at me,
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[voice breaking] and she
says, "Mommy, I love you,
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and I love my hair,"
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and every time I say that, I get all...
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I just never forget her looking
up at me, and she was so happy.
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And it just... I got it.
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I was like, "okay, I'm gonna do
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whatever it takes to make you happy."
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What you guys gonna be
doing for spring break?
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Beach. Beach.
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- Beachy, beachy?
- Hey, guess what... the beach.
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Can I go?
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Yeah, we can go to the
beach with you one day.
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With, like, a friend, though, right?
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Yeah, you can bring a friend,
and we can bring some friends.
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We could have a Jennings beach brawl.
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I do need to buy a bathing suit.
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I feel like I haven't seen you
in a bathing suit in forever.
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- You're taking me shopping.
- Aww.
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You don't want to go with
me? You want to go with her?
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And I love to shop.
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We can talk about our weird things
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while the rest of the family's gone.
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- Your baby sister's growing up.
- I know, she really is.
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- She's gonna be in high school.
- It's scaring me.
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It's been a long journey.
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We've been through...
We've been through a lot.
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The issues specifically dealing
with Jazz being transgender,
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they're complicated.
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And now we're gonna have high school
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as she's transitioning
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from a young girl into a young lady,
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and I really don't know what to expect.
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And I'm nervous.
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So, it's really nice to
have everybody together.
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And, you know, as you guys get older,
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it gets a little tougher.
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What would make me proud and happy is
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if you guys don't grow
up and don't go to college
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and stay home forever.
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You don't want to be alone with me?
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[Wolf-whistles]
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[Laughter]
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You're going back to college,
like, so soon already.
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You just came down. I'm sad.
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- I'm happy that you're here.
- I'll be back soon, though.
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I actually have someone to talk to now.
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It's hard for me now that
Ari is out of the house,
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because she's my big sister,
and I look up to her a lot.
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In fact, I got my name Jazz from her,
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because she was Jasmine
in the show "Aladdin"
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when she was in fourth grade,
and I was like 5 years old.
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I'm like, "Jazz! I want to be Jazz!"
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'Cause I looked up to her that much.
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I'm gonna be going into high school soon...
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Once this year's over,
which I'm excited for,
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'cause middle school's annoying.
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What were you like in 9th grade?
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Weren't you, like, antisocial, kind of-ish?
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- No, I had boyfriends.
- Oh, yeah.
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Like, that's the only
reason I was ever antisocial.
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Boyfriends make you antisocial, yeah.
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Jazz does ask me a lot of
questions about high school,
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and it is really funny,
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because I feel like,
yesterday, she was being born.
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I know it was tough in the beginning
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when she first transitioned,
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'cause I definitely loved
being, like, the only girl.
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I was the princess.
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But looking back at it, like,
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Jazz was always wearing my stuff.
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Like, we were both princesses.
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Hi, Jeanette!
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- Hi, come on in.
- Hi, honey.
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- Hi, how you doing?
- How are you?
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Good. Hello, Ma.
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I love to have my parents over,
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whether we're having
coffee or tea or dinner
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or just hanging out, watching old movies.
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They lived in New York for so long.
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Now they're down here.
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You guys want some honey?
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Honey for my honeys?
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Jack: Leave it for your mother.
I'll just have plain tea.
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Thanks, hon.
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Anyway, how are things going?
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Good. We have a busy week coming up.
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I'm taking Jazz to the doctor.
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Any expectations? Anything?
254
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Well, the doctor called,
255
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and some of her blood work is in.
256
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Jeanette: My parents want to
know everything about everybody...
257
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Every single detail.
258
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It's exhausting sometimes.
259
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But I think it's in a loving nosy way.
260
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Tell us more about what the doctor says
261
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it's going to entail.
262
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We go in there, and the
doctor does her vitals.
263
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When Jeanette and Greg knew
they had a transgender child,
264
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I was devastated.
265
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I saw an older
granddaughter, two grandsons,
266
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and this person being re-created.
267
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There were no other
grandparents experiencing this,
268
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no other friends, nobody to turn to.
269
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So I did go to a professional for help.
270
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I didn't know what to do with it.
271
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I'm seeing my grandson
here, dressed up in pink.
272
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And what do you do with this?
273
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So I decided to educate
myself and ran to the Internet
274
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and tried to understand as much as I could.
275
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You know that Jazz had a pediatrician,
276
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and I told the pediatrician about her.
277
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And I said, "this is what transgender is."
278
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He was like pooh-poohing
me... "yes, I know."
279
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Then right before he goes to examine her,
280
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he's like, "so, does she have a penis?"
281
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The most common question
I get asked about Jazz
282
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that's incorrect is, "did
Jazz have the surgery?"
283
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'Cause she looks so girlish
in their minds, so they think,
284
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"she must have a girl body, as well."
285
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One pediatrician may have
286
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a couple transgenders in their career.
287
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Transgender people.
288
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There's no such word as "transgenders."
289
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Just telling you so you know.
290
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I'm learning the language
from you, my dear.
291
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Not trannies?
292
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- No!
- No.
293
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I mean, I think this is a
really cute style, right?
294
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Yeah, that's really cute.
295
00:10:47,476 --> 00:10:49,910
Look how thin it is right
there. How do I deal with that?
296
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Show me.
297
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[Gasps]
298
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Jack: One pediatrician may have
299
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a couple transgenders in their career.
300
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Transgender people.
301
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There's no such word as "transgenders."
302
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Just telling you so you know.
303
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I'm learning the language
from you, my dear.
304
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Not trannies?
305
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- No!
- No.
306
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That's a bad word.
307
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All right. I didn't know that.
308
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It's, like, such an insult.
309
00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,045
All right. Learned something.
310
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I'm from a generation
that never knew about this,
311
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never dealt with this.
312
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This is certainly new,
313
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and we're still on this journey.
314
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Wow.
315
00:11:39,795 --> 00:11:41,795
So, what kind of bathing
suit do you want to get?
316
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I want a tankini.
317
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Don't limit your options.
318
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There could be like a
thousand bathing suits there.
319
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I'm mostly skinny everywhere,
320
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except that I have broad shoulders,
321
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and then I have, like, extra...
322
00:11:52,943 --> 00:11:54,773
'cause all my fat goes to my stomach.
323
00:11:55,161 --> 00:11:57,696
Why can't it go to my butt and my boobs?
324
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Jazz: I always wanted to make sure
325
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that, you know, I looked
like any other girl.
326
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I remember when I was 2 or 3 years old,
327
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and I had a nightmare
328
00:12:05,721 --> 00:12:07,654
that these giant mustaches and beards
329
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were chasing me around,
330
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and they wanted to attach to my face.
331
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And I remember running up to my mom.
332
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I told her, and she said,
333
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"don't worry, that's never gonna happen.
334
00:12:18,493 --> 00:12:20,359
I'm never gonna let that happen to you."
335
00:12:21,564 --> 00:12:22,468
Jack: It's a funny thing.
336
00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:24,340
The last time I spoke to Jazz,
337
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she wanted higher estrogen levels.
338
00:12:26,808 --> 00:12:28,184
Every time, she asks the doctor.
339
00:12:28,209 --> 00:12:29,105
More and more and more.
340
00:12:29,130 --> 00:12:30,396
"So, how much can I have more?
341
00:12:30,497 --> 00:12:32,055
I'm not growing at the
speed I want to grow."
342
00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,320
And she'll look
343
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and kind of a little behind her friends.
344
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Do they bring her along gradually?
345
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They have to do it really gradually.
346
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Jeanette: There's a big medical component
347
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to being a transgender youth
348
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because you do want to avoid the puberty
349
00:12:43,391 --> 00:12:45,269
that your body wants to go into.
350
00:12:45,487 --> 00:12:49,930
So Jazz started hormone
blockers about 3 1/2 years ago
351
00:12:49,932 --> 00:12:53,499
and then went on estrogen
about two years ago.
352
00:12:53,501 --> 00:12:55,902
And Jazz is developing
nicely like a young lady,
353
00:12:55,904 --> 00:12:57,337
like she should be.
354
00:12:58,239 --> 00:13:00,512
Have you noticed any changes lately?
355
00:13:00,537 --> 00:13:04,038
Well, she's gotten taller, and
she's definitely developing.
356
00:13:04,212 --> 00:13:07,480
She's starting to get,
you know, bigger up top,
357
00:13:07,482 --> 00:13:08,682
which she wants.
358
00:13:08,684 --> 00:13:10,450
Her breasts are blossoming.
359
00:13:10,452 --> 00:13:11,451
Wonderful.
360
00:13:11,453 --> 00:13:12,752
Now, tell me, does the doctor
361
00:13:12,754 --> 00:13:14,654
carefully measure all these things?
362
00:13:14,656 --> 00:13:17,128
Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's like...
363
00:13:17,659 --> 00:13:20,302
[Laughter]
364
00:13:20,693 --> 00:13:23,162
How long does it take to get
that blood work back on her?
365
00:13:23,164 --> 00:13:24,998
The blood work is back.
366
00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,099
The doctor will say, "well,
367
00:13:26,101 --> 00:13:27,843
here's what's going on with the blood."
368
00:13:28,234 --> 00:13:31,270
In a few days, when it's
time to talk to the doctor,
369
00:13:31,272 --> 00:13:33,473
I want to know, you know,
what's the testosterone level?
370
00:13:33,475 --> 00:13:34,504
How's that doing?
371
00:13:34,529 --> 00:13:36,463
If her testosterone levels are too high,
372
00:13:36,488 --> 00:13:39,923
she can start showing signs of
secondary male characteristics
373
00:13:39,948 --> 00:13:43,216
like growing a beard or
getting an Adam's apple.
374
00:13:43,218 --> 00:13:45,384
I don't want that to happen to her.
She doesn't want that to happen.
375
00:13:45,386 --> 00:13:46,586
Yeah, it's scary.
376
00:13:46,588 --> 00:13:48,788
This is experimental stuff.
377
00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:51,891
Like, I am messing with my kid's body.
378
00:13:55,664 --> 00:13:58,665
♪
379
00:14:01,531 --> 00:14:03,069
Woman: Hi. How are you guys?
380
00:14:03,071 --> 00:14:04,137
Hello.
381
00:14:04,139 --> 00:14:05,839
My gosh, it's so cute.
382
00:14:05,841 --> 00:14:08,174
Yeah, but I would not look good in that.
383
00:14:08,176 --> 00:14:10,684
You don't know that until you try it on.
384
00:14:10,946 --> 00:14:13,079
I need to find a tankini.
385
00:14:13,081 --> 00:14:14,814
Do you guys have any tankinis?
386
00:14:14,816 --> 00:14:15,982
We don't.
387
00:14:15,984 --> 00:14:18,652
We have one-pieces and mostly just bikinis.
388
00:14:18,654 --> 00:14:22,195
Yeah, I like one-pieces
more than two-pieces.
389
00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:24,600
Jazz: Normally, I don't
really like to go shopping,
390
00:14:24,625 --> 00:14:27,760
because I have to look at
it a little bit differently
391
00:14:27,785 --> 00:14:29,017
because of my area.
392
00:14:29,716 --> 00:14:31,698
Also when I'm swimming, I have to make sure
393
00:14:31,723 --> 00:14:34,902
that I'm wearing skirts or
shorts over the bikini bottoms
394
00:14:34,903 --> 00:14:37,270
so that no one will see anything.
395
00:14:37,272 --> 00:14:39,139
Look how thin it is right there.
396
00:14:39,141 --> 00:14:40,338
How do I deal with that?
397
00:14:40,363 --> 00:14:41,580
Would you be uncomfortable?
398
00:14:41,605 --> 00:14:42,707
I think I would.
399
00:14:42,732 --> 00:14:44,198
For me, I think the last time
400
00:14:44,223 --> 00:14:46,634
I was really comfortable
wearing a bathing suit
401
00:14:46,958 --> 00:14:49,541
was when I was 5 years old
at my 5th birthday party.
402
00:14:50,118 --> 00:14:52,318
Greg: Happy Birthday.
403
00:14:52,958 --> 00:14:55,822
Jazz: I was able to wear
a one-piece bathing suit
404
00:14:55,824 --> 00:14:58,939
which was sparkly and rainbow and beautiful
405
00:14:58,964 --> 00:15:01,132
and defined mini-Jazz.
406
00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:04,330
Jeanette: Of course, everybody
that came to the party
407
00:15:04,332 --> 00:15:06,032
did a double take, like...
408
00:15:06,034 --> 00:15:07,257
But it was Jazz's birthday,
409
00:15:07,282 --> 00:15:10,000
and who was gonna be mean
to her on her own birthday?
410
00:15:10,588 --> 00:15:12,105
Jazz: Even at the age of 5,
411
00:15:12,107 --> 00:15:15,742
I just knew that this was a big step.
412
00:15:15,744 --> 00:15:17,143
Here I am. You could see me.
413
00:15:17,145 --> 00:15:18,745
It was like a big accomplishment,
414
00:15:18,747 --> 00:15:22,515
and it was honestly, like,
the best day of my life.
415
00:15:23,129 --> 00:15:25,085
I mean, I think this is a
really cute style, right?
416
00:15:25,087 --> 00:15:26,485
Yeah, that's really cute.
417
00:15:26,487 --> 00:15:27,787
I think it would look good on you.
418
00:15:27,789 --> 00:15:29,422
Look at this one.
419
00:15:29,424 --> 00:15:30,674
It's not, like, very revealing.
420
00:15:30,699 --> 00:15:32,302
It's just like your stomach's gonna show,
421
00:15:32,327 --> 00:15:34,761
but that's everyone in a bikini.
422
00:15:35,542 --> 00:15:37,964
Ari: Jazz is self-conscious
about bathing suits
423
00:15:37,966 --> 00:15:39,498
because she has to be.
424
00:15:39,947 --> 00:15:41,634
She needs to see, like,
what she likes on her body
425
00:15:41,636 --> 00:15:42,769
and what she doesn't.
426
00:15:42,771 --> 00:15:44,396
If she's very, like, narrow-minded
427
00:15:44,421 --> 00:15:45,691
about what bathing suit to wear,
428
00:15:45,716 --> 00:15:48,351
I think she'll never explore other options.
429
00:15:48,376 --> 00:15:49,475
It's, like, right over here.
430
00:15:49,477 --> 00:15:51,211
Oh, wow, look. That's beautiful.
431
00:15:51,575 --> 00:15:52,779
You can put it with anything.
432
00:15:52,781 --> 00:15:53,980
I picked out a few, yeah.
433
00:15:54,005 --> 00:15:55,292
She wants to be comfortable.
434
00:15:55,317 --> 00:15:56,793
She's not gonna walk out
435
00:15:56,818 --> 00:15:59,119
with any, like, kind of
bulge or any like that.
436
00:15:59,121 --> 00:16:00,653
That's not who she is.
437
00:16:00,655 --> 00:16:02,488
Like, that's not how
she feels on the inside.
438
00:16:02,490 --> 00:16:03,490
Is it fitting?
439
00:16:05,127 --> 00:16:08,162
Jazz: I don't know. I look weird.
440
00:16:09,503 --> 00:16:11,264
Ooh, this looks kind of weird, Ari.
441
00:16:11,266 --> 00:16:13,432
It's probably just 'cause
it's a lot of pattern.
442
00:16:13,434 --> 00:16:15,034
Does the skirt fit right, though?
443
00:16:15,036 --> 00:16:17,603
The skirt fits right,
but it look really weird.
444
00:16:18,549 --> 00:16:19,305
Just come out.
445
00:16:22,439 --> 00:16:23,672
Ooh.
446
00:16:24,379 --> 00:16:25,544
It's very slimming.
447
00:16:25,546 --> 00:16:27,313
I don't know if it's
supposed to go this low.
448
00:16:27,315 --> 00:16:29,149
I think it is.
449
00:16:29,151 --> 00:16:31,217
No, you don't have to do that.
450
00:16:31,219 --> 00:16:33,653
But it looks like there's
nothing there, then.
451
00:16:33,655 --> 00:16:36,322
I see formation, though.
See, like, you have chest.
452
00:16:36,324 --> 00:16:37,924
You have something on your chest.
453
00:16:37,926 --> 00:16:39,125
You're not completely flat.
454
00:16:39,127 --> 00:16:40,994
All right, I'm gonna go try on others.
455
00:16:40,996 --> 00:16:41,908
You know, it's different
456
00:16:41,933 --> 00:16:44,040
because I don't have the natural breasts.
457
00:16:44,065 --> 00:16:46,232
I had to develop them through estrogen
458
00:16:46,234 --> 00:16:47,533
like many transgender kids.
459
00:16:48,479 --> 00:16:50,036
I think I like this one.
460
00:16:51,221 --> 00:16:53,039
Come. Show me.
461
00:16:55,911 --> 00:16:58,978
[Gasps] Oh, my gosh, I love the top.
462
00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:01,614
I actually really like this.
463
00:17:01,616 --> 00:17:03,582
Yeah, do you feel good?
I can tell you feel good.
464
00:17:03,584 --> 00:17:04,465
Mm-hmm.
465
00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:06,562
Ari: It's her loving it that
makes it look really good on her.
466
00:17:06,587 --> 00:17:09,122
Look, I only have, like,
this little shmiggle-shmuggle,
467
00:17:09,124 --> 00:17:10,489
whatever you want to call it.
468
00:17:10,491 --> 00:17:12,292
It's really not that bad.
469
00:17:12,294 --> 00:17:16,029
It's like a little extra,
but... Then the bathing suit.
470
00:17:16,031 --> 00:17:17,333
No, okay, bye.
471
00:17:18,110 --> 00:17:19,575
[Laughs]
472
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,824
Jeanette: I'm really nervous.
473
00:17:20,849 --> 00:17:25,515
This is just not your everyday
average type of medicine.
474
00:17:25,540 --> 00:17:27,606
I know you're anxious to
hear about your lab work.
475
00:17:27,608 --> 00:17:28,741
Let's talk about that.
476
00:17:40,522 --> 00:17:43,322
♪
477
00:17:45,092 --> 00:17:47,026
Well, we got to see if
Chris is ready and everybody
478
00:17:47,028 --> 00:17:48,294
and all Jazz's friends
are ready for the beach.
479
00:17:48,296 --> 00:17:49,529
Where's Jazz?
480
00:17:49,531 --> 00:17:51,545
Jazz, are you ready to go to the beach?
481
00:17:51,832 --> 00:17:53,299
Jazz: Hold on! I'm coming!
482
00:17:53,301 --> 00:17:55,034
See you in 10 minutes.
483
00:17:55,036 --> 00:17:56,199
She's always late.
484
00:17:56,224 --> 00:17:57,914
I feel great that we're going to the beach,
485
00:17:57,939 --> 00:18:01,507
and I just get to have fun and
be with my best friend Casey,
486
00:18:01,532 --> 00:18:03,866
and we are gonna have a blast.
487
00:18:04,312 --> 00:18:06,598
Wait, which of your friends
are going to the beach?
488
00:18:06,623 --> 00:18:07,408
Sander: Yeah, Chris is coming.
489
00:18:07,433 --> 00:18:08,933
- Madison is coming, though?
- Yeah.
490
00:18:08,958 --> 00:18:10,157
Do you want her to come?
491
00:18:10,451 --> 00:18:13,021
Of course. Why wouldn't I want her to come?
492
00:18:13,046 --> 00:18:14,812
I am currently single as a pringle.
493
00:18:15,533 --> 00:18:17,356
I had a girlfriend for a very long time,
494
00:18:17,358 --> 00:18:19,958
but we recently had some complications.
495
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,816
I would say you're single but taken.
496
00:18:21,841 --> 00:18:24,006
I'm not dating, but...
497
00:18:24,031 --> 00:18:25,097
He's taken.
498
00:18:25,356 --> 00:18:26,799
Something like that.
499
00:18:26,801 --> 00:18:28,434
Griffen: Jazz, who's gonna
be there of your friends?
500
00:18:28,436 --> 00:18:29,365
Just Casey.
501
00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:30,274
But I'm so jealous
502
00:18:30,299 --> 00:18:31,866
'cause she has, like,
the perfect beach body.
503
00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:33,066
You know what I mean?
504
00:18:33,091 --> 00:18:35,318
Yeah, but I have the
perfect beach body, too.
505
00:18:35,343 --> 00:18:36,475
Model-shaped.
506
00:18:36,477 --> 00:18:38,411
I'm not gonna even take off my cover-up.
507
00:18:39,415 --> 00:18:41,681
That should be the least of
your worries these days, Jazz.
508
00:18:41,683 --> 00:18:44,317
I know, but you know
I'm very self-conscious.
509
00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:46,285
I think most girls are.
510
00:18:46,615 --> 00:18:48,921
She's like, "I don't have
boobs, I don't have butt,
511
00:18:48,923 --> 00:18:50,256
my tummy's a little big."
512
00:18:50,258 --> 00:18:52,325
She even has a name,
belly pot, for her stomach.
513
00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:55,027
Now, that's where it's different
than most girls' insecurities.
514
00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:57,363
Most girls are just like,
"oh, I don't have any boobs,
515
00:18:57,365 --> 00:18:58,243
no guys are gonna like me."
516
00:18:58,268 --> 00:19:00,044
"Oh, my God, my friend
has bigger boobs than me.
517
00:19:00,069 --> 00:19:00,966
Oh, my God."
518
00:19:00,968 --> 00:19:03,135
I don't know, and my
boobs are not that big.
519
00:19:03,137 --> 00:19:04,062
Boobs don't matter.
520
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,386
It's about personality.
521
00:19:05,710 --> 00:19:06,849
That's so annoying, though.
522
00:19:06,874 --> 00:19:08,941
Like, all guys, all they
care about is butt and boobs.
523
00:19:08,943 --> 00:19:11,118
Even you guys, too. I know
you guys are like that.
524
00:19:11,143 --> 00:19:12,911
I'm all about personality.
525
00:19:12,913 --> 00:19:16,549
Guys kind of shy away from
her because she is transgender.
526
00:19:16,551 --> 00:19:19,485
She wants guys to like her
whether she'll date them or not.
527
00:19:19,487 --> 00:19:21,706
She feels like she's
missing a part of her life
528
00:19:21,731 --> 00:19:23,298
because guys don't look at her.
529
00:19:23,334 --> 00:19:24,500
They walk away from her.
530
00:19:24,626 --> 00:19:26,007
They'll give everybody else hugs,
531
00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:27,599
and they'll give her a high-five.
532
00:19:27,729 --> 00:19:28,994
And it hurts her.
533
00:19:28,996 --> 00:19:31,230
If a guy doesn't like you for who you are,
534
00:19:31,232 --> 00:19:32,765
then they don't matter, all right?
535
00:19:32,767 --> 00:19:34,734
It's not that. It's that
they're not worth it.
536
00:19:34,736 --> 00:19:35,834
They're not worth it.
537
00:19:35,836 --> 00:19:37,102
So, they shouldn't care about your boobs.
538
00:19:37,104 --> 00:19:39,372
I know you care, but at the
same time, you shouldn't.
539
00:19:39,374 --> 00:19:40,518
When Jazz starts dating,
540
00:19:40,543 --> 00:19:42,969
we're gonna make sure we
have an interview with the guy
541
00:19:42,994 --> 00:19:45,255
and be like, "hello,
sir, what is your name?"
542
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,112
Make sure they have the great manners,
543
00:19:47,114 --> 00:19:48,628
make sure they're perfect.
We're gonna interview him.
544
00:19:48,653 --> 00:19:49,918
We're gonna find the best guy for her.
545
00:19:50,050 --> 00:19:51,412
You have the best personality out there,
546
00:19:51,437 --> 00:19:52,546
so any guy's lucky to have you.
547
00:19:52,571 --> 00:19:54,471
Ooh, you're so sweet.
548
00:19:54,496 --> 00:19:56,580
You guys have okay personalities.
549
00:19:56,605 --> 00:19:58,506
Oh, thanks. Shucks, that's means so much.
550
00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:00,064
Mine's better than his, correct?
551
00:20:00,295 --> 00:20:01,661
Um, yeah, I would say so.
552
00:20:01,663 --> 00:20:04,697
♪
553
00:20:04,699 --> 00:20:05,848
Hey, guys.
554
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,509
All right, we'll take ball first
555
00:20:07,534 --> 00:20:08,924
because I got two
ladies, you guys have one.
556
00:20:08,949 --> 00:20:10,282
Is that supposed to mean women are weak?
557
00:20:10,307 --> 00:20:11,214
Chris, you go get them.
558
00:20:11,239 --> 00:20:13,324
A day at the beach encompasses pretty much
559
00:20:13,349 --> 00:20:15,616
swimming in the water,
maybe tanning, and sports.
560
00:20:15,643 --> 00:20:17,069
Sports, sports, sports.
561
00:20:17,094 --> 00:20:17,604
What?
562
00:20:18,293 --> 00:20:20,459
Jazz: Because they are the athletic boys,
563
00:20:20,597 --> 00:20:24,026
they get really crazy when it
comes to winning and losing.
564
00:20:24,841 --> 00:20:25,751
Cover.
565
00:20:25,753 --> 00:20:28,053
Go score. Score!
566
00:20:29,023 --> 00:20:30,389
Griffen, Griffen.
567
00:20:30,391 --> 00:20:31,657
Hey, hey.
568
00:20:31,659 --> 00:20:33,559
I've being growing to
be competitive, as well,
569
00:20:33,561 --> 00:20:35,060
so when it comes to sports,
570
00:20:35,062 --> 00:20:36,862
we all try to beat each
other and kill other.
571
00:20:38,065 --> 00:20:39,598
Goal!
572
00:20:40,393 --> 00:20:41,601
I'm the soccer champ.
573
00:20:43,705 --> 00:20:45,604
Yeah!
574
00:20:47,045 --> 00:20:50,079
♪
575
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,146
Jeanette: You know where
the facial brushes are?
576
00:20:54,148 --> 00:20:55,748
How does someone even brush their hair?
577
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:57,136
You're not supposed to sample brushes.
578
00:20:57,161 --> 00:20:57,991
Oh, sorry.
579
00:20:58,016 --> 00:20:59,182
Put it back, back.
580
00:21:00,623 --> 00:21:01,490
It looks like a microphone.
581
00:21:01,515 --> 00:21:03,703
Jeanette: I think Jazz and
I have a great relationship.
582
00:21:03,728 --> 00:21:07,069
I just love being around her.
Her personality is so fun.
583
00:21:07,094 --> 00:21:09,094
Like, I know if I'm with
Jazz, I'm gonna be laughing.
584
00:21:09,096 --> 00:21:11,664
This one's really pretty, and
it's, like, sparkly pretty.
585
00:21:11,666 --> 00:21:13,065
This is what I do when I want to...
586
00:21:13,067 --> 00:21:14,433
[gasps] Ooh.
587
00:21:14,435 --> 00:21:16,736
Mom, you broke it.
588
00:21:17,293 --> 00:21:18,637
Sorry.
589
00:21:18,639 --> 00:21:20,773
Shh. Put it back.
590
00:21:20,775 --> 00:21:22,775
Do you girls need any
help with anything today?
591
00:21:22,777 --> 00:21:24,844
Yes, I want to get a full makeover.
592
00:21:24,846 --> 00:21:25,940
We both need it.
593
00:21:25,965 --> 00:21:27,544
But you don't have makeup on. I do already.
594
00:21:27,569 --> 00:21:28,942
It's for you. She's going into high school.
595
00:21:28,967 --> 00:21:31,067
At least you don't look
orange today, honestly.
596
00:21:31,318 --> 00:21:33,800
You have those days when you
look like a little oompa loompa.
597
00:21:33,825 --> 00:21:34,733
Thanks.
598
00:21:35,650 --> 00:21:37,550
She knows I'm really into the bronzer,
599
00:21:37,575 --> 00:21:39,441
and I can come up
looking a little orange-y.
600
00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:40,264
But I yell at her.
601
00:21:40,289 --> 00:21:41,481
I'm like, "don't let me leave the house
602
00:21:41,506 --> 00:21:42,806
if I look like an oompa loompa."
603
00:21:42,831 --> 00:21:45,272
Like, stop me, somebody.
Like, you're my family.
604
00:21:45,310 --> 00:21:47,810
It's like if you had broccoli
between your teeth or something.
605
00:21:47,968 --> 00:21:50,403
So, you just, like, apply
it all over your face?
606
00:21:50,405 --> 00:21:52,571
Yeah, just like you would a
moisturizer or a foundation,
607
00:21:52,573 --> 00:21:53,401
and you don't need a lot.
608
00:21:53,426 --> 00:21:55,202
Just start in the center of
the face and blend it out.
609
00:21:55,276 --> 00:21:56,686
Jeanette: That looks really nice.
610
00:21:56,711 --> 00:21:58,685
You're glowing, but you don't
look like an oompa loompa.
611
00:21:58,813 --> 00:21:59,840
So, maybe you should use this.
612
00:21:59,865 --> 00:22:00,998
Take a lesson, Mom. No.
613
00:22:01,144 --> 00:22:02,643
[Laughter]
614
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:04,448
I love shopping for makeup.
615
00:22:04,473 --> 00:22:05,872
When it comes to makeup...
616
00:22:06,086 --> 00:22:07,753
I don't want to say I'm a makeup whore.
617
00:22:07,755 --> 00:22:09,889
No, that's bad. [Laughs]
618
00:22:09,891 --> 00:22:11,924
Mom, you said you started
wearing makeup in high school,
619
00:22:11,926 --> 00:22:13,292
right, or was it before that?
620
00:22:13,294 --> 00:22:16,117
No, I ended up wearing a
lot of makeup in high school.
621
00:22:16,142 --> 00:22:17,478
But I was more into makeup than you are
622
00:22:17,503 --> 00:22:19,707
'cause you're a natural
beauty, and I needed help.
623
00:22:20,126 --> 00:22:22,252
Did people think it was
weird that you wore makeup?
624
00:22:22,277 --> 00:22:23,218
It was the '80s.
625
00:22:23,971 --> 00:22:25,971
- Everybody was wearing tons...
- Everybody wore makeup in the '80s.
626
00:22:25,973 --> 00:22:28,106
So, do you think I should wear
makeup in high school, Mom?
627
00:22:28,108 --> 00:22:30,684
I'm okay with it. Just a
little, but not too much.
628
00:22:30,709 --> 00:22:31,670
I'm not sure,
629
00:22:31,695 --> 00:22:33,723
'cause not all girls wear
makeup now, just some.
630
00:22:33,748 --> 00:22:36,816
I see a lot of girls your
age wearing a lot of makeup.
631
00:22:36,818 --> 00:22:38,317
I'm definitely worried about Jazz
632
00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:41,520
when the friends start to get
more into the dating world.
633
00:22:41,522 --> 00:22:42,726
It's gonna be hard.
634
00:22:42,751 --> 00:22:44,975
It'd be hard for any kid,
but then being transgender,
635
00:22:45,099 --> 00:22:47,326
what mom wouldn't worry about that?
636
00:22:47,328 --> 00:22:48,820
Are you ready to see?
637
00:22:48,906 --> 00:22:50,038
Yes, I am.
638
00:22:51,949 --> 00:22:52,598
Ooh.
639
00:22:53,351 --> 00:22:54,299
A clown.
640
00:22:54,301 --> 00:22:57,294
No, I'm just kidding. It looks beautiful.
641
00:22:57,472 --> 00:23:00,806
♪
642
00:23:01,509 --> 00:23:02,341
Jeanette: Look at you.
643
00:23:02,343 --> 00:23:04,009
- You look so grown up.
- [Laughs]
644
00:23:04,011 --> 00:23:05,945
- Look at you.
- Look at you.
645
00:23:05,947 --> 00:23:08,594
You don't look like a little Jazz anymore.
646
00:23:08,619 --> 00:23:11,287
You look like big-girl
Jazz, like big teenage girl.
647
00:23:11,312 --> 00:23:13,536
Oh, I thought you meant "big
girl" meaning fatter Jazz.
648
00:23:13,561 --> 00:23:14,760
No, seriously.
649
00:23:15,117 --> 00:23:17,928
I just... I'm not ready
to have a high-schooler.
650
00:23:17,953 --> 00:23:19,009
You're my baby.
651
00:23:19,746 --> 00:23:22,114
You don't understand. Wait till
you're a mom one day. You'll see.
652
00:23:22,229 --> 00:23:24,096
What's the hardest grade in high school?
653
00:23:24,231 --> 00:23:25,898
Well, it depends what's
going on in your life.
654
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:26,932
Like, I had a lot of drama
655
00:23:26,934 --> 00:23:28,709
when I was in 10th and 11th grade,
656
00:23:28,734 --> 00:23:29,873
so that was really hard.
657
00:23:29,898 --> 00:23:31,032
9th grade was scary.
658
00:23:31,057 --> 00:23:34,458
Like, I was feeling myself
out, finding my way, you know?
659
00:23:34,593 --> 00:23:36,697
And senior year, I was, like, ready.
660
00:23:38,895 --> 00:23:40,185
What did he just say?
661
00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:42,764
Stop. Mom, stop.
662
00:23:55,196 --> 00:23:57,229
What's the hardest grade in high school?
663
00:23:57,231 --> 00:23:58,664
9th grade was scary.
664
00:23:58,666 --> 00:24:02,201
Like, I was feeling myself
out, finding my way, you know?
665
00:24:02,203 --> 00:24:04,170
And senior year, I was, like, ready.
666
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,578
What did he just say?
667
00:24:08,142 --> 00:24:10,457
Stop. Mom, stop.
668
00:24:10,936 --> 00:24:13,401
- My heart rate...
- They're not worth it.
669
00:24:13,547 --> 00:24:15,448
It doesn't matter what they think.
670
00:24:15,450 --> 00:24:16,915
I'm your mom and I love you,
671
00:24:16,917 --> 00:24:18,384
and I don't want anybody calling you that.
672
00:24:18,386 --> 00:24:19,751
They're just stupid punks.
673
00:24:19,753 --> 00:24:21,787
I'm not used to it. I
know you're used to it.
674
00:24:21,789 --> 00:24:24,490
I mean, it happens sometimes,
but... I don't know.
675
00:24:24,492 --> 00:24:26,192
Jazz: It does happen to me a lot...
676
00:24:26,194 --> 00:24:29,628
People being mean to me
or people not accepting me.
677
00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:31,670
You know, I remember this certain instance
678
00:24:31,695 --> 00:24:35,097
where there was this kid
who called me an "it."
679
00:24:35,122 --> 00:24:38,657
And I knew he called me an
"it" because I was transgender.
680
00:24:39,318 --> 00:24:40,601
It was an act of bullying
681
00:24:40,626 --> 00:24:42,899
because it happened
constantly, every single day.
682
00:24:43,429 --> 00:24:45,136
What do you even think about that?
683
00:24:46,740 --> 00:24:48,514
Didn't bother you at all?
684
00:24:48,516 --> 00:24:50,349
I mean, at first, I was like, "what?"
685
00:24:50,351 --> 00:24:52,318
I know you've had that happen to you,
686
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,287
and I'm not usually with
you, and I'm not used to it.
687
00:24:55,289 --> 00:24:57,356
I thought you were about to get up.
688
00:24:57,358 --> 00:24:58,657
- I was.
- I saw you.
689
00:24:58,659 --> 00:25:00,551
You were about to... you're
like, "where are they going?"
690
00:25:00,576 --> 00:25:02,571
The blood just rushed into my brain.
691
00:25:02,573 --> 00:25:03,935
No one says that to my kids.
692
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,124
Like, and I was just saying
693
00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:06,604
how you'll understand
someday when you're a mom,
694
00:25:06,629 --> 00:25:08,929
and you'll understand, like,
the protectiveness that I have.
695
00:25:08,954 --> 00:25:11,981
Like, I would run after them and get hurt
696
00:25:12,006 --> 00:25:13,343
just to say something to them.
697
00:25:13,368 --> 00:25:15,580
But I wouldn't want you
to have to see me get hurt.
698
00:25:15,876 --> 00:25:18,810
I am definitely
overprotective in certain ways.
699
00:25:18,812 --> 00:25:22,862
But when you're transgender,
it can be very dangerous.
700
00:25:22,887 --> 00:25:26,688
People are murdered every year
because they are transgender.
701
00:25:27,459 --> 00:25:28,220
I just...
702
00:25:28,222 --> 00:25:30,956
I want to protect you from
people like that so badly.
703
00:25:30,958 --> 00:25:33,725
I'm really sorry that you had to hear that.
704
00:25:33,727 --> 00:25:35,127
I love you.
705
00:25:35,129 --> 00:25:37,530
And why don't we get out of here?
706
00:25:38,569 --> 00:25:39,844
Give me a big hug.
707
00:25:41,884 --> 00:25:44,281
Mm, look at me, you big girl.
708
00:25:46,978 --> 00:25:47,873
Okay.
709
00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:54,146
♪
710
00:25:54,148 --> 00:25:55,650
[doorbell rings]
711
00:25:55,675 --> 00:25:57,335
Jeanette: Jazz, your friends are here.
712
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:58,528
Go answer the door.
713
00:25:58,841 --> 00:26:00,173
What's Jazz up to?
714
00:26:00,688 --> 00:26:02,421
Jazz is having a gaggle of friends
715
00:26:02,423 --> 00:26:03,989
'cause she's having a slumber party.
716
00:26:03,991 --> 00:26:06,959
So it's gonna be chaotic.
It's gonna be a crazy night.
717
00:26:06,961 --> 00:26:08,645
Jazz has a group of friends now
718
00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:10,590
that she's been hanging
out with for a while,
719
00:26:10,615 --> 00:26:11,868
but way back when,
720
00:26:11,893 --> 00:26:13,526
not everybody knew she was transgender.
721
00:26:13,718 --> 00:26:15,988
So I had a rule she's not
allowed to go to anybody's house
722
00:26:16,013 --> 00:26:18,694
or have anybody over here
unless the parents knew.
723
00:26:18,834 --> 00:26:21,173
¡Hola, mis amigos!
724
00:26:21,175 --> 00:26:22,475
Hello.
725
00:26:22,477 --> 00:26:23,842
[Laughter]
726
00:26:23,844 --> 00:26:24,463
Next one.
727
00:26:24,488 --> 00:26:26,354
Jeanette: Sometimes I
dreaded having the talk.
728
00:26:26,379 --> 00:26:28,238
Throughout Jazz's entire lifetime,
729
00:26:28,263 --> 00:26:29,117
there have been people
730
00:26:29,142 --> 00:26:30,976
that have tried to keep
their kids away from her.
731
00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:32,830
It's good to know right from the beginning.
732
00:26:32,855 --> 00:26:34,455
Like, okay, this person
has a problem with it.
733
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,913
It's good that they
knew because guess what.
734
00:26:35,938 --> 00:26:37,197
We don't want you in our lives.
735
00:26:37,674 --> 00:26:38,982
So it kind of solves the problem.
736
00:26:39,751 --> 00:26:41,427
I get my tampon chapstick.
737
00:26:41,429 --> 00:26:42,595
[Laughter]
738
00:26:42,597 --> 00:26:44,430
I call this my tampon.
739
00:26:44,432 --> 00:26:45,431
It falls on the floor,
740
00:26:45,433 --> 00:26:46,999
and she goes, "you dropped your tampon."
741
00:26:47,001 --> 00:26:48,767
I have those handful of friends
742
00:26:48,769 --> 00:26:50,536
who do love and accept me for who I am.
743
00:26:50,538 --> 00:26:51,803
What's really funny is
744
00:26:51,805 --> 00:26:54,306
sometimes they even forget
that I'm transgender.
745
00:26:54,308 --> 00:26:55,409
They'll talk about their period,
746
00:26:55,434 --> 00:26:56,971
and I'm like, "I don't get my period."
747
00:26:56,996 --> 00:26:59,897
And then they'll be like,
"oh, yeah, I forgot."
748
00:26:59,922 --> 00:27:02,658
So, they just consider
me as another normal girl.
749
00:27:02,683 --> 00:27:04,356
You all know her boobs got bigger.
750
00:27:04,818 --> 00:27:06,218
So big!
751
00:27:07,345 --> 00:27:08,820
Well, at least compared to me.
752
00:27:08,822 --> 00:27:10,096
In the sixth grade, I had, like, no boobs,
753
00:27:10,121 --> 00:27:12,067
and then, like, all of a
sudden, it just, like, happened.
754
00:27:12,092 --> 00:27:13,692
That's what happens.
755
00:27:13,694 --> 00:27:15,808
Well, like, I'm still waiting.
756
00:27:16,164 --> 00:27:17,288
[Laughter]
757
00:27:17,475 --> 00:27:18,291
At school,
758
00:27:18,316 --> 00:27:21,480
boob size is definitely an
issue for a lot of girls.
759
00:27:21,505 --> 00:27:23,364
They're very competitive about it,
760
00:27:23,389 --> 00:27:25,489
and they want their
boobs to be the biggest.
761
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,306
For me, it's just mostly, you know,
762
00:27:27,308 --> 00:27:28,731
fitting in and being another girl.
763
00:27:28,756 --> 00:27:29,689
If I have have boobs,
764
00:27:29,714 --> 00:27:32,189
then I could look like
a girl to everyone else.
765
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:34,512
But for other girls,
it's mostly about boys.
766
00:27:34,946 --> 00:27:36,869
She said that she can't
wait till I get braces
767
00:27:36,894 --> 00:27:39,194
so I'll look ugly and all
the boys won't like me.
768
00:27:39,372 --> 00:27:40,671
[Laughter]
769
00:27:40,777 --> 00:27:43,221
I think a few of us are boy crazy here.
770
00:27:43,824 --> 00:27:45,499
[Laughter]
771
00:27:45,524 --> 00:27:46,623
Even you, though.
772
00:27:46,648 --> 00:27:48,315
You get boys sometimes, and so do you.
773
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:51,808
And everyone thinks... a lot
of guys think you're pretty.
774
00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:55,168
I'm like the only one that never
has gotten anything, honestly.
775
00:27:55,193 --> 00:27:57,822
Ever since everyone knew
that I was transgender,
776
00:27:57,847 --> 00:27:59,479
like, no one has liked me.
777
00:27:59,954 --> 00:28:02,955
I face most of my
discrimination from the boys
778
00:28:02,980 --> 00:28:06,498
because they think that they're
gay for liking another "boy."
779
00:28:06,790 --> 00:28:10,092
And they just overall think
that I'm disgusting and weird.
780
00:28:10,117 --> 00:28:13,319
I'd like to be respected for who I am.
781
00:28:13,321 --> 00:28:14,677
I start thinking about the fact,
782
00:28:14,702 --> 00:28:16,285
is it really just 'cause of below,
783
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:18,343
or is it because I'm actually, like, ugly
784
00:28:18,368 --> 00:28:19,475
or have a bad personality?
785
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:20,993
No, it's because the boys at our school,
786
00:28:21,018 --> 00:28:23,102
all they care about is boobs and butt.
787
00:28:23,291 --> 00:28:24,473
All the girls in our grade,
788
00:28:24,498 --> 00:28:26,840
like, all the ones that are
really popular and stuff,
789
00:28:26,865 --> 00:28:29,352
it's 'cause they have it.
790
00:28:29,377 --> 00:28:30,402
Well, it's coming.
791
00:28:30,404 --> 00:28:32,504
[Laughter]
792
00:28:32,506 --> 00:28:33,563
She's reminded of the fact
793
00:28:33,588 --> 00:28:35,746
that she isn't quite like the other girls.
794
00:28:35,771 --> 00:28:36,712
And it's just gonna get worse
795
00:28:36,737 --> 00:28:38,731
because everybody's just gonna
start pairing off and dating.
796
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:40,356
There's gonna be some
big mountains to climb
797
00:28:40,381 --> 00:28:41,447
over the next few years,
798
00:28:41,449 --> 00:28:43,549
and I really don't know what to expect.
799
00:28:43,551 --> 00:28:48,587
You have so much going on with all of this.
800
00:28:48,589 --> 00:28:50,356
How are you coping?
801
00:28:50,358 --> 00:28:51,823
It's become sort of the norm.
802
00:28:51,825 --> 00:28:54,025
But the again, every now
and then, I pull myself out,
803
00:28:54,027 --> 00:28:55,627
and I'm like, "is this really happening?"
804
00:28:56,631 --> 00:28:57,917
It's scary.
805
00:28:58,205 --> 00:29:00,466
I just... I'm having a really hard time.
806
00:29:00,468 --> 00:29:02,584
She's got to go through stuff.
807
00:29:02,609 --> 00:29:05,371
I wish I could take some of this away.
808
00:29:17,173 --> 00:29:22,287
You have so much going on with all of this.
809
00:29:22,289 --> 00:29:23,571
How are you coping?
810
00:29:24,091 --> 00:29:25,557
It's become sort of the norm.
811
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:27,893
But the again, every now
and then, I pull myself out,
812
00:29:27,895 --> 00:29:29,495
and I'm like, "is this really happening?"
813
00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:31,764
It's scary.
814
00:29:31,766 --> 00:29:34,667
I'm nervous about the
doctor's appointment for Jazz.
815
00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:37,335
One of the major things we check
are her testosterone levels,
816
00:29:37,337 --> 00:29:38,842
and it's supposed to be suppressed.
817
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:39,850
And I'm always sweating,
818
00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:41,651
my palms are sweating
till I get that number in.
819
00:29:41,676 --> 00:29:43,942
This is fresh. We're the Guinea pigs.
820
00:29:43,944 --> 00:29:45,210
Jazz is a Guinea pig.
821
00:29:45,808 --> 00:29:47,009
But there are other people...
822
00:29:47,034 --> 00:29:48,313
I don't like to think of it that way.
823
00:29:48,315 --> 00:29:51,016
I don't why you said that.
That's not how I look at it.
824
00:29:51,018 --> 00:29:54,586
Let's just say she's one of the
newer kids of this generation
825
00:29:54,588 --> 00:29:55,730
that have done this.
826
00:29:55,755 --> 00:29:57,689
It makes my stomach churn, honestly,
827
00:29:57,714 --> 00:30:00,323
when I think about what she's
gonna have to go through.
828
00:30:01,293 --> 00:30:03,238
I don't talk to Jazz about surgery.
829
00:30:03,263 --> 00:30:07,086
It's just one of those things I
sort of don't want to deal with
830
00:30:07,111 --> 00:30:08,143
and don't want to think about.
831
00:30:08,168 --> 00:30:10,606
And if she's not bringing it up,
I don't want to talk about it.
832
00:30:10,833 --> 00:30:13,233
I know a friend of hers
that had the surgery at 16.
833
00:30:13,574 --> 00:30:14,573
- And we would... And Jazz said...
- Really?
834
00:30:14,575 --> 00:30:17,726
Is that allowed? I thought not.
835
00:30:17,751 --> 00:30:19,317
There has been 16-year-olds.
836
00:30:20,370 --> 00:30:23,150
We're coming through these teenage years,
837
00:30:23,175 --> 00:30:26,228
which are not easy years for any teenager.
838
00:30:26,253 --> 00:30:30,055
And she has all this
extra stuff to deal with.
839
00:30:30,057 --> 00:30:31,777
She has to sort it out.
840
00:30:31,802 --> 00:30:34,503
She has to face the world one way,
841
00:30:34,528 --> 00:30:35,861
perhaps herself another.
842
00:30:35,886 --> 00:30:38,352
I have been so proud of
the way you've handled this.
843
00:30:38,377 --> 00:30:39,911
- And, you know...
- It's not easy.
844
00:30:39,936 --> 00:30:42,221
I can't even speak the right words.
845
00:30:42,246 --> 00:30:45,014
But just, you've got
two proud parents here.
846
00:30:46,115 --> 00:30:49,742
We've had exciting times.
We've had difficult times.
847
00:30:49,744 --> 00:30:52,310
But through it all, we stuck together,
848
00:30:52,312 --> 00:30:54,579
and we know that at the end of the day,
849
00:30:54,581 --> 00:30:56,493
it's all about unconditional love.
850
00:30:56,518 --> 00:30:58,550
Everybody has their stuff. This is ours.
851
00:30:58,552 --> 00:31:01,254
You know, I have to say,
it could be much worse.
852
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,165
I count my blessing every day.
853
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:05,062
Ooh, girl.
854
00:31:05,979 --> 00:31:08,021
Those are nice. Look at that.
855
00:31:08,162 --> 00:31:09,394
I love this.
856
00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:12,241
♪
857
00:31:12,266 --> 00:31:14,199
This is to get, like, a nice smokey.
858
00:31:14,201 --> 00:31:16,668
A nice shade of eye shadow
make you look very pretty.
859
00:31:17,905 --> 00:31:19,289
Close your eyes.
860
00:31:19,314 --> 00:31:20,255
This color's pretty.
861
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,780
Hey, you guys want some more makeup?
862
00:31:22,176 --> 00:31:23,408
[Girls screaming]
863
00:31:23,410 --> 00:31:25,443
Girl: Oh, my God!
864
00:31:25,445 --> 00:31:27,479
Your chandelier is shaking.
865
00:31:27,481 --> 00:31:28,680
What's that mean?
866
00:31:28,682 --> 00:31:30,983
[Screaming continues]
867
00:31:30,985 --> 00:31:32,251
The room is gonna be such a mess.
868
00:31:32,253 --> 00:31:34,153
You wouldn't be able to
tolerate what goes on up there.
869
00:31:34,155 --> 00:31:35,788
I'm not going upstairs to find out.
870
00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:38,090
[Laughs]
871
00:31:38,092 --> 00:31:39,624
Jazz: I'm not cleaning this.
872
00:31:39,626 --> 00:31:41,459
[Laughter]
873
00:31:41,461 --> 00:31:44,897
♪
874
00:31:45,874 --> 00:31:48,333
Jeanette: So, do you have a
lot of questions for the doctor?
875
00:31:48,335 --> 00:31:51,222
I'm gonna ask about increasing my dosage
876
00:31:51,247 --> 00:31:52,646
and maybe getting more boobs
877
00:31:52,671 --> 00:31:54,367
and if I'm gonna get a wide figure.
878
00:31:54,392 --> 00:31:57,293
'Cause you know how I'm, like,
square, spongebob squarepants?
879
00:31:57,444 --> 00:31:58,236
[Laughs]
880
00:31:58,261 --> 00:32:00,361
I'd like to change that a little bit
881
00:32:00,386 --> 00:32:02,687
and get more of an hourglass figure.
882
00:32:02,917 --> 00:32:04,883
I do want big boobs because it's something
883
00:32:04,885 --> 00:32:06,584
that really identifies me as a girl
884
00:32:06,586 --> 00:32:08,420
to everyone else when they look at me.
885
00:32:08,845 --> 00:32:10,455
When someone looks at
someone, and they're like,
886
00:32:10,457 --> 00:32:11,620
"oh, is that a girl or a guy?"
887
00:32:11,645 --> 00:32:14,145
They look right at the boobs
and they're like, "oh, a girl."
888
00:32:14,361 --> 00:32:16,978
I'm gonna ask him, like, genetically,
889
00:32:17,003 --> 00:32:20,115
can you inherit my traits or Ari's traits?
890
00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:23,374
Well, if I inherit your traits,
then we know what that means.
891
00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:26,067
It means they'll be hanging on
the ground by the time you're 25.
892
00:32:26,273 --> 00:32:28,874
♪ Do your boobs hang low? Do
they wobble to the floor? ♪
893
00:32:28,876 --> 00:32:30,442
♪ Can you tie them in a knot... ♪
894
00:32:30,444 --> 00:32:33,745
- Yes, yes, yes.
- [Laughs]
895
00:32:33,747 --> 00:32:37,459
♪
896
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,017
And now we wait.
897
00:32:39,019 --> 00:32:41,349
Are you nervous for me?
898
00:32:41,657 --> 00:32:42,858
I'm always nervous.
899
00:32:42,883 --> 00:32:46,318
This is just not your
average type of medicine.
900
00:32:46,343 --> 00:32:48,676
Jeanette: I never know what
the test results are gonna be.
901
00:32:48,701 --> 00:32:50,514
And my biggest fear is
the doctor's gonna say,
902
00:32:50,539 --> 00:32:52,957
"oh, her testosterone
levels are really high."
903
00:32:52,982 --> 00:32:55,616
And then, of course, I have
visions of her growing a beard
904
00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:57,775
or her Adam's apple protruding
905
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,216
or having this kind of growth spurt
906
00:33:00,241 --> 00:33:02,476
in a kind of masculine way.
907
00:33:02,501 --> 00:33:05,302
What 14-year-old girl
wants to look like a guy?
908
00:33:05,588 --> 00:33:06,386
[Knock on door] Hey, guys.
909
00:33:06,411 --> 00:33:07,511
- Hello.
- Hello.
910
00:33:07,536 --> 00:33:08,802
How are you? Good to see you.
911
00:33:08,827 --> 00:33:09,671
How you feeling?
912
00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:11,062
- I'm good.
- Good.
913
00:33:11,087 --> 00:33:12,969
Dr. Charlton: I met Jazz
probably three years ago,
914
00:33:12,994 --> 00:33:15,965
and she was just on the cusp
of entering male puberty.
915
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:18,757
So the timing was ideal,
916
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,393
because that allowed us to prevent her
917
00:33:21,395 --> 00:33:24,202
from progressing far
enough with male puberty
918
00:33:24,227 --> 00:33:27,151
that she would have long-term
effects such as mustache
919
00:33:27,176 --> 00:33:28,738
that are difficult to get rid of.
920
00:33:28,763 --> 00:33:30,812
She's almost done with middle school.
921
00:33:30,837 --> 00:33:33,438
Little baby Jazz is growing up.
922
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Jeanette: Dr. Charlton is a godsend.
923
00:33:35,025 --> 00:33:36,115
He is very special.
924
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:37,639
In the past, I had doctors that said,
925
00:33:37,744 --> 00:33:39,311
"oh, yeah, I'm willing to treat Jazz."
926
00:33:39,313 --> 00:33:40,488
And then we get to the
office, meet with the doctor,
927
00:33:40,513 --> 00:33:43,259
and I get a phone call the
next day... they got cold feet.
928
00:33:43,317 --> 00:33:45,250
Have you noticed any more changes,
929
00:33:45,252 --> 00:33:46,985
particularly with regards
to breast development?
930
00:33:46,987 --> 00:33:48,387
- They keep growing.
- Good.
931
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:49,526
But right now,
932
00:33:49,551 --> 00:33:51,551
I'm still the friend with,
like, the smallest boobs.
933
00:33:51,658 --> 00:33:53,691
I'm number two, second smallest.
934
00:33:53,693 --> 00:33:54,803
I could have heard this
935
00:33:54,828 --> 00:33:57,430
out of the mouth of any girl your age,
936
00:33:57,664 --> 00:33:59,131
transgender or not.
937
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:00,103
And that's the goal...
938
00:34:00,128 --> 00:34:01,560
To have normal developmental
experience, right?
939
00:34:01,735 --> 00:34:03,035
- Right?
- Yeah.
940
00:34:03,037 --> 00:34:07,172
Since I know you're anxious
to hear about your lab work,
941
00:34:07,174 --> 00:34:08,307
let's talk about that.
942
00:34:09,776 --> 00:34:12,578
And then we'll go through
sort of our process,
943
00:34:12,603 --> 00:34:14,395
where we've come from and where we're going
944
00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:16,253
and how best to get there.
945
00:34:59,311 --> 00:35:02,461
Since I know you're anxious
to hear about your lab work,
946
00:35:02,463 --> 00:35:03,344
let's talk about that.
947
00:35:03,369 --> 00:35:05,907
And then we'll go through
sort of our process,
948
00:35:05,932 --> 00:35:07,999
where we've come from and where we're going
949
00:35:08,001 --> 00:35:09,901
and how best to get there.
950
00:35:12,473 --> 00:35:14,239
Uh...
951
00:35:14,241 --> 00:35:17,493
The hormone blockers
are working brilliantly.
952
00:35:17,518 --> 00:35:21,587
There's absolutely zero
sign of any male puberty.
953
00:35:21,882 --> 00:35:23,882
- Yay!
- Yay.
954
00:35:23,884 --> 00:35:26,551
We're blocked. No mustaches. No beards.
955
00:35:26,553 --> 00:35:28,086
- [Laughter]
- Right.
956
00:35:28,583 --> 00:35:31,424
Jeanette: I'm relieved to hear
that testosterone levels are low.
957
00:35:31,449 --> 00:35:33,040
It's very important for Jazz to fit in
958
00:35:33,065 --> 00:35:34,332
and look like the other girls.
959
00:35:34,357 --> 00:35:37,613
I think that she would
be completely depressed
960
00:35:37,638 --> 00:35:38,846
and probably suicidal
961
00:35:38,871 --> 00:35:41,054
if she had to go through male puberty.
962
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:43,476
The estrogen levels
963
00:35:43,501 --> 00:35:46,869
are a little bit low for an adult female...
964
00:35:48,542 --> 00:35:51,634
Jazz: Estrogen is really important
because it puts me on track
965
00:35:51,659 --> 00:35:54,256
as far as development
with my other friends.
966
00:35:54,281 --> 00:35:57,482
And they're a little bit low
actually for a girl your age.
967
00:35:57,806 --> 00:35:59,874
Ever since I've been like 11 years old,
968
00:35:59,899 --> 00:36:01,730
I've always just wanted to
fit in with all my friends
969
00:36:01,755 --> 00:36:02,754
and be the same.
970
00:36:02,756 --> 00:36:04,882
I feel a little worried.
971
00:36:04,907 --> 00:36:07,536
The fact that you're still
seeing breast development
972
00:36:07,561 --> 00:36:10,762
tells me that your body is
still reacting to this dose.
973
00:36:11,325 --> 00:36:12,731
So we're gonna talk about that,
974
00:36:12,733 --> 00:36:16,802
how fast do we advance
to final adult dosing,
975
00:36:16,804 --> 00:36:18,904
what does that mean for breast development,
976
00:36:18,906 --> 00:36:20,972
for other things, particularly your height.
977
00:36:20,974 --> 00:36:22,748
You're 5'1½" now.
978
00:36:22,773 --> 00:36:24,249
She wants to be 5'7".
979
00:36:24,299 --> 00:36:26,186
I can't control that.
980
00:36:26,284 --> 00:36:30,219
But if we jump up your estrogen dose,
981
00:36:30,454 --> 00:36:31,638
breasts will get bigger,
982
00:36:31,663 --> 00:36:34,596
but it will also speed up how
fast your growth plates close.
983
00:36:34,742 --> 00:36:38,246
So we risk stopping your growth.
984
00:36:38,592 --> 00:36:40,525
You know, it's just really frustrating
985
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:42,028
when I think about the fact
986
00:36:42,053 --> 00:36:45,051
that my friends never have to
worry about estrogen levels.
987
00:36:45,098 --> 00:36:46,946
They just get their boobs
988
00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:48,604
and their body and everything perfectly,
989
00:36:48,702 --> 00:36:50,068
and they don't have to go through
990
00:36:50,070 --> 00:36:51,202
the things that I go through.
991
00:36:51,204 --> 00:36:53,304
So, maybe we should talk about
992
00:36:53,306 --> 00:36:54,840
what kind of schedule we can do
993
00:36:54,842 --> 00:36:56,307
that might be a little slower.
994
00:36:59,403 --> 00:37:00,144
I'm willing to wait.
995
00:37:00,146 --> 00:37:02,581
If I could get the height
and the full development
996
00:37:02,606 --> 00:37:05,314
by just being patient and
waiting a little bit more,
997
00:37:05,339 --> 00:37:07,606
then I'd prefer to do
that rather than rush in,
998
00:37:07,678 --> 00:37:10,673
not get tall, and just get what I want.
999
00:37:11,191 --> 00:37:13,692
And there's always breast augmentation.
1000
00:37:13,694 --> 00:37:16,377
Well, that's actually
sort of the next stage.
1001
00:37:16,714 --> 00:37:17,873
At some point,
1002
00:37:18,194 --> 00:37:21,165
I know that you're gonna
want to talk about surgery
1003
00:37:21,167 --> 00:37:24,135
and what are the options
and all those things.
1004
00:37:24,137 --> 00:37:26,037
Jeanette: I've been
pushing it out of my mind
1005
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:27,105
and Jazz has been little
1006
00:37:27,107 --> 00:37:28,540
and we don't have to worry about it.
1007
00:37:28,542 --> 00:37:31,009
But with high school coming,
it's a huge wake-up call for me.
1008
00:37:31,011 --> 00:37:32,022
Like, oh, my goodness,
1009
00:37:32,047 --> 00:37:33,681
we're gonna have to
start thinking about this.
1010
00:37:33,724 --> 00:37:35,900
There's the distinction between top surgery
1011
00:37:35,925 --> 00:37:37,459
and bottom surgery, right?
1012
00:37:37,544 --> 00:37:40,311
So, your mom was saying there's
always breast augmentation.
1013
00:37:40,336 --> 00:37:42,764
So in your case, that
would be the top surgery.
1014
00:37:42,789 --> 00:37:44,589
But when you're talking
about bottom surgery,
1015
00:37:44,591 --> 00:37:47,091
there are several different
methods by which that's done.
1016
00:37:47,754 --> 00:37:48,860
I know you have thoughts on that,
1017
00:37:48,862 --> 00:37:51,062
so what are your thoughts
currently on that?
1018
00:37:51,064 --> 00:37:54,232
I just don't know where
I'm at at the moment.
1019
00:37:54,234 --> 00:37:56,705
It is a life-altering decision.
1020
00:37:56,730 --> 00:37:59,798
I mean, you're literally
changing your body completely,
1021
00:37:59,873 --> 00:38:01,973
and it's something scary to think about.
1022
00:38:01,975 --> 00:38:05,109
I'm just used to my body by now.
1023
00:38:05,111 --> 00:38:06,377
I can look down, I'm like,
1024
00:38:06,379 --> 00:38:08,046
"oh, hey, thing-a-minga, how are you?"
1025
00:38:08,048 --> 00:38:08,934
[Laughs]
1026
00:38:08,959 --> 00:38:14,070
My advice would be before you
do any type of big surgery,
1027
00:38:14,187 --> 00:38:16,520
you want to be done growing.
1028
00:38:16,990 --> 00:38:19,724
How do you feel about all of those
decisions being on your shoulders?
1029
00:38:19,726 --> 00:38:20,949
It's a little overwhelming.
1030
00:38:20,974 --> 00:38:24,039
I have so many important
choices that I have to make,
1031
00:38:24,064 --> 00:38:26,097
and it really all comes down to me.
1032
00:38:26,099 --> 00:38:28,247
My mom's not gonna decide
what body I'm gonna have.
1033
00:38:28,272 --> 00:38:29,438
I'm gonna be deciding.
1034
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:32,403
Although I'm not 100% sure
1035
00:38:32,405 --> 00:38:34,160
if I'm gonna be doing the bottom surgery...
1036
00:38:34,185 --> 00:38:36,418
I don't want to die a virgin, but...
1037
00:38:36,443 --> 00:38:37,576
[Laughs]
1038
00:38:37,578 --> 00:38:40,845
I just said that. Why
do I say these things?
1039
00:38:40,847 --> 00:38:44,515
[Laughs]
1040
00:38:44,517 --> 00:38:47,552
Why do say these things?
1041
00:38:47,554 --> 00:38:50,488
♪
1042
00:38:51,692 --> 00:38:53,136
Hey, beautiful. [Chuckles]
1043
00:38:54,325 --> 00:38:56,064
What happened with the doctor?
1044
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:58,063
[Sighs]
1045
00:38:58,065 --> 00:39:00,365
Well, her estrogen levels are low.
1046
00:39:00,390 --> 00:39:02,767
And what are they gonna do?
Or what do they recommend?
1047
00:39:02,769 --> 00:39:07,105
We're gonna hold off a little
bit on giving her more estrogen
1048
00:39:07,107 --> 00:39:10,048
because the doctor wants to make sure
1049
00:39:10,073 --> 00:39:11,549
she can get a little more height.
1050
00:39:11,574 --> 00:39:13,576
And then we touched upon surgery.
1051
00:39:13,967 --> 00:39:15,793
What was her response?
1052
00:39:15,968 --> 00:39:18,434
She was sort of like... Left the door open.
1053
00:39:18,459 --> 00:39:21,200
She's not sure. She hasn't
decided. She's got time.
1054
00:39:21,225 --> 00:39:24,800
And I'm thinking, you know,
she's gonna be 15 in October.
1055
00:39:24,825 --> 00:39:26,685
15 is a lot closer to 18
1056
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:28,782
than it was when she was
9, 10, and 11, you know?
1057
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:31,807
Now I realize it's getting closer.
1058
00:39:32,055 --> 00:39:33,331
You think Jazz is okay?
1059
00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:36,735
Do you feel like all the issues
that are in front of her now,
1060
00:39:36,737 --> 00:39:38,036
she's handling them fine?
1061
00:39:38,038 --> 00:39:40,471
No, I worry about her
'cause she's hot and cold.
1062
00:39:40,473 --> 00:39:41,900
Sometimes, she's like, "oh, I'm fine."
1063
00:39:41,925 --> 00:39:46,094
And other times, she's really
kind of a mess about it.
1064
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:47,786
A mess about the medical stuff,
1065
00:39:47,811 --> 00:39:50,926
or just a mess about going into
high school and her friends...
1066
00:39:50,951 --> 00:39:54,119
I think it's a little bit...
She'll say she doesn't know why.
1067
00:39:54,121 --> 00:39:56,487
She's just like, "I just feel overwhelmed."
1068
00:39:56,489 --> 00:39:58,623
It's like she's like,
1069
00:39:58,625 --> 00:40:01,325
"I don't know why I feel
this way, but I feel off."
1070
00:40:01,327 --> 00:40:03,327
Greg and I love each other very much.
1071
00:40:03,329 --> 00:40:05,263
We've been together for a long time,
1072
00:40:05,265 --> 00:40:07,699
and he's just so comforting.
1073
00:40:07,701 --> 00:40:10,135
Like, I feel so safe and protected by him.
1074
00:40:10,137 --> 00:40:12,648
I feel like with him on my
side, I can never go wrong.
1075
00:40:12,673 --> 00:40:14,838
And I'm crazy, and he's just my calm.
1076
00:40:14,863 --> 00:40:15,862
He's my rock.
1077
00:40:15,887 --> 00:40:17,915
I'm having a really hard time
1078
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:21,512
processing all that is ahead of her.
1079
00:40:21,514 --> 00:40:23,815
But I just... I'm not
ready for this chapter.
1080
00:40:23,817 --> 00:40:25,316
I guess that's what it is.
1081
00:40:25,318 --> 00:40:27,118
I don't think you are, either.
1082
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,853
Greg: Jazz's challenges ahead
1083
00:40:28,855 --> 00:40:31,723
are scarier than they've been in the past,
1084
00:40:31,725 --> 00:40:34,059
but it's kind of been
the story of Jazz's life.
1085
00:40:34,061 --> 00:40:36,294
There's a lot of things
that we've confronted
1086
00:40:36,296 --> 00:40:38,897
that we had no road map for.
1087
00:40:38,899 --> 00:40:41,566
[Sighs] I hate this.
1088
00:40:42,821 --> 00:40:46,971
I wish I could take some
of this away, you know?
1089
00:40:46,973 --> 00:40:50,208
[Voice breaking] To be the
person that she knows she is,
1090
00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:53,044
she's got to go through stuff
that she shouldn't have to.
1091
00:40:53,046 --> 00:40:55,479
Why can't... you know,
I wish she could just be.
1092
00:40:55,481 --> 00:40:57,448
[Sniffles]
1093
00:40:57,450 --> 00:40:59,050
You're getting black.
1094
00:40:59,052 --> 00:41:02,721
And I know she'll be... She's so strong.
1095
00:41:02,723 --> 00:41:05,288
Well, you do take a lot of it away.
1096
00:41:05,313 --> 00:41:08,636
She has to tell me, "it's
gonna be okay, Mom," sometimes.
1097
00:41:08,661 --> 00:41:11,529
You know what? Everything will be okay.
1098
00:41:11,531 --> 00:41:14,065
We'll be there for each other.
We'll be there for the kids.
1099
00:41:14,067 --> 00:41:15,767
Everything will be okay.
1100
00:41:15,769 --> 00:41:18,937
I think every age has a
different set of challenges.
1101
00:41:18,939 --> 00:41:21,005
There are ups and downs to
everything in Jazz's life,
1102
00:41:21,007 --> 00:41:24,075
but we are far away from being home free
1103
00:41:24,077 --> 00:41:27,678
to rainbows and unicorns
and all that butterfly stuff.
1104
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,547
I mean, we're just not there yet.
1105
00:41:29,549 --> 00:41:31,641
I'm gonna go to sleep on you.
1106
00:41:31,666 --> 00:41:33,895
Okay. And I can watch TV?
1107
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,872
- You can watch sports.
- Cool. [Laughs]
1108
00:41:35,897 --> 00:41:37,377
I don't feel like going under the covers.
1109
00:41:37,402 --> 00:41:38,434
I'm having hot flashes.
1110
00:41:38,459 --> 00:41:39,626
[Laughs]
1111
00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:41,070
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1112
00:41:41,095 --> 00:41:42,828
Jazz: This season on "I am Jazz"...
1113
00:41:42,963 --> 00:41:44,162
- Kitty cat!
- [Screams]
1114
00:41:44,187 --> 00:41:47,063
- There's the tail!
- [Screams]
1115
00:41:47,306 --> 00:41:49,200
I don't like lizards!
1116
00:41:49,202 --> 00:41:50,601
I haven't been a teenager for that long,
1117
00:41:50,603 --> 00:41:53,404
and I'm experiencing new
things every single day.
1118
00:41:53,406 --> 00:41:56,241
I want people to support
me just like any other girl.
1119
00:41:56,243 --> 00:41:57,211
Woman: You know, most of the people
1120
00:41:57,236 --> 00:41:58,920
already know she's transgender,
1121
00:41:58,945 --> 00:42:01,980
but in high school, they're
gonna be gunning for her.
1122
00:42:01,982 --> 00:42:05,316
People don't care about
your feelings at all.
1123
00:42:05,318 --> 00:42:06,651
We should invite some boys.
1124
00:42:06,653 --> 00:42:07,652
I don't know.
1125
00:42:07,654 --> 00:42:09,773
Boys are always flirting with my friends.
1126
00:42:09,798 --> 00:42:11,297
I'm just being ignored, and it hurts.
1127
00:42:11,322 --> 00:42:13,434
You know how a lot of the
other boys didn't come?
1128
00:42:13,459 --> 00:42:13,839
Yeah.
1129
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:16,039
Do you think it's because I'm transgender?
1130
00:42:16,462 --> 00:42:18,075
I just don't know what to do.
1131
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:19,666
I just know there's gonna be more of this.
1132
00:42:19,691 --> 00:42:22,558
When people don't understand
something, they're scared of it.
1133
00:42:22,583 --> 00:42:25,184
At last check, male puberty
was completely suppressed,
1134
00:42:25,209 --> 00:42:27,676
but the current implant is
no longer being effective.
1135
00:42:27,701 --> 00:42:30,246
Scary, 'cause to me, the
hormones are saving her life.
1136
00:42:30,271 --> 00:42:31,270
I'm just so stressed out.
1137
00:42:31,295 --> 00:42:33,589
I don't know how to deal with it.
1138
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,449
I want Jazz to be happy and
know that I'm here for her.
1139
00:42:39,398 --> 00:42:41,352
Jazz: No matter what
challenges I go through...
1140
00:42:41,354 --> 00:42:43,321
My big sister!
1141
00:42:43,323 --> 00:42:46,319
I'm so lucky because
my family has taught me
1142
00:42:46,344 --> 00:42:49,980
what unconditional love means,
and that's honestly all I need.
1143
00:42:50,297 --> 00:42:52,630
- I love you.
- Love you, too. [Smooches]
1143
00:42:53,305 --> 00:43:53,853
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