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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,074 --> 00:00:04,769 This was a moment 30 years in the making. 2 00:00:04,794 --> 00:00:07,079 For Liverpool, the wait.. 3 00:00:07,104 --> 00:00:08,488 ...is over! 4 00:00:08,513 --> 00:00:10,408 Champions of England again! 5 00:00:11,874 --> 00:00:15,929 Liverpool had been relentless in their quest to return to the top 6 00:00:15,954 --> 00:00:17,288 of the English game. 7 00:00:17,313 --> 00:00:18,799 Firmino. Brilliant! 8 00:00:18,824 --> 00:00:22,129 Salah. That is simply awesome! 9 00:00:22,154 --> 00:00:24,368 And masterminding their return — 10 00:00:24,393 --> 00:00:27,969 a brilliant manager in a mould all of his own. 11 00:00:27,994 --> 00:00:30,599 I'm the normal one, maybe if you want this. 12 00:00:30,624 --> 00:00:32,439 I couldn't be more proud 13 00:00:32,464 --> 00:00:34,049 on the way we did it. 14 00:00:34,074 --> 00:00:36,209 Being so patient for 30 years. 15 00:00:36,234 --> 00:00:37,969 Roberto Firmino! 16 00:00:37,994 --> 00:00:39,969 Mane! 17 00:00:39,994 --> 00:00:43,288 The style of footballjurgen Klopp has implemented 18 00:00:43,313 --> 00:00:44,879 has been breathtaking. 19 00:00:44,904 --> 00:00:46,649 Salah charges towards him... 20 00:00:46,674 --> 00:00:48,288 ...and scores! 21 00:00:48,313 --> 00:00:50,719 I always said from the first interview, I want to win 22 00:00:50,744 --> 00:00:52,238 the Premier League with this club. 23 00:00:52,263 --> 00:00:54,649 They were saying crazy but, yeah, we did it. 24 00:00:54,674 --> 00:00:56,969 For three long decades, 25 00:00:56,994 --> 00:00:59,769 Liverpool fans have watched on in agony as others 26 00:00:59,794 --> 00:01:01,929 took their perch and revelled in it. 27 00:01:06,744 --> 00:01:10,238 And despite winning ten cups in that time, it was always 28 00:01:10,263 --> 00:01:12,358 the league that mattered most. 29 00:01:12,383 --> 00:01:14,689 Even when you win the Champions League there were people 30 00:01:14,714 --> 00:01:17,009 that told us winning the league would have meant more. 31 00:01:17,034 --> 00:01:19,569 You don't find a club where you will hear that, actually, 32 00:01:19,594 --> 00:01:21,329 apart from Liverpool. 33 00:01:21,354 --> 00:01:25,209 It mattered because, alongside the highs of the '70s and '80s, 34 00:01:25,234 --> 00:01:27,259 there were also tragedies, 35 00:01:27,284 --> 00:01:31,879 dark days, which created a unique bond between the club and its fans. 36 00:01:33,354 --> 00:01:36,849 The people have got special strength about them 37 00:01:36,874 --> 00:01:39,719 to overcome the bad events. 38 00:01:39,744 --> 00:01:44,608 The passion that you saw on the field is a direct result 39 00:01:44,633 --> 00:01:46,719 of who our supporters are. 40 00:01:46,744 --> 00:01:50,358 I think the personality of this team is a never—say—die attitude, 41 00:01:50,383 --> 00:01:53,329 who are willing to fight for each other right until the very end. 42 00:01:53,354 --> 00:01:56,488 This is the story of Liverpool's long road back 43 00:01:56,513 --> 00:01:58,879 to the summit of English football... 44 00:01:58,904 --> 00:02:00,439 You ask there and I look there. 45 00:02:00,464 --> 00:02:04,439 ...told by the people who helped shape the club we see today. 46 00:02:04,464 --> 00:02:05,799 OK, ready? 47 00:02:05,824 --> 00:02:07,009 It's ready. 48 00:02:07,034 --> 00:02:08,049 SNAP! 49 00:02:13,744 --> 00:02:18,849 CHEERING AND CHANTING 50 00:02:18,874 --> 00:02:20,849 REPORTER: Liverpool are the champions 51 00:02:20,874 --> 00:02:22,929 and the gladiators applaud the crowd. 52 00:02:22,954 --> 00:02:25,439 I'm not going to tell you why they're going to win, 53 00:02:25,464 --> 00:02:27,849 because they're going to win because they're the greatest. 54 00:02:27,874 --> 00:02:29,608 Champions! Champions! 55 00:02:29,633 --> 00:02:32,969 I don't think Liverpool would be where we are today, 56 00:02:32,994 --> 00:02:34,238 except for Bill Shankly. 57 00:02:34,263 --> 00:02:35,969 As soon as he opens his mouth, 58 00:02:35,994 --> 00:02:37,158 it's pure heaven. 59 00:02:37,183 --> 00:02:39,799 Well, I think that if a manager is honest, 60 00:02:39,824 --> 00:02:42,209 he can't go into the field with the players. 61 00:02:42,234 --> 00:02:43,799 He can convey it to the players. 62 00:02:43,824 --> 00:02:47,158 He's with them and they're with him, and they'll be successful. 63 00:02:47,183 --> 00:02:51,158 There was something about this guy that clicked with Liverpool. 64 00:02:51,183 --> 00:02:54,849 And the cup belongs to Liverpool! 65 00:02:57,544 --> 00:03:01,929 Shankly created a famous boot room culture which not only brought 66 00:03:01,954 --> 00:03:05,158 success, but also a template for succession. 67 00:03:05,183 --> 00:03:07,899 It's the people that make it, really, there's no magic. 68 00:03:07,924 --> 00:03:09,488 No, there's no magic. 69 00:03:11,183 --> 00:03:14,049 When Shanks retired, Bob Paisley took over. 70 00:03:14,074 --> 00:03:15,439 Bob was a bit of a mumbler. 71 00:03:15,464 --> 00:03:18,158 He's a bit hard to understand, I would think, in team meetings 72 00:03:18,183 --> 00:03:19,608 and the like, isn't he? Pardon? 73 00:03:19,633 --> 00:03:22,079 He's a bit hard... LAUGHTER 74 00:03:22,104 --> 00:03:24,488 The Kop's spilling onto the pitch to celebrate 75 00:03:24,513 --> 00:03:26,879 the victory and the championship. 76 00:03:26,904 --> 00:03:29,049 Have you any more ambitions left in this game? 77 00:03:29,074 --> 00:03:31,488 Yeah. Win it next year. 78 00:03:31,513 --> 00:03:34,249 The teams of the '70s and the '80s 79 00:03:34,274 --> 00:03:36,238 were absolutely phenomenal. 80 00:03:36,263 --> 00:03:38,608 They were like a machine. They were winning everything. 81 00:03:38,633 --> 00:03:41,719 Liverpool have retained the Football League championship. 82 00:03:41,744 --> 00:03:44,358 42 league games, that's what it's all about. 83 00:03:44,383 --> 00:03:47,158 Cup competitions — one-off things, really, aren't they? 84 00:03:47,183 --> 00:03:49,329 But win the league, that's what football's all about. 85 00:03:49,354 --> 00:03:52,049 Liverpool are European champions! 86 00:03:53,744 --> 00:03:56,519 KLOPP: You can mention the word Europeanite, and I think 87 00:03:56,544 --> 00:03:59,799 90% of football supporters in the world would think Liverpool. 88 00:03:59,824 --> 00:04:02,158 REPORTER: It's business as usual for Liverpool, 89 00:04:02,183 --> 00:04:05,158 the most successful club in the history of British football. 90 00:04:05,183 --> 00:04:07,719 Joe Fagan had the drop. Your first year in charge, 91 00:04:07,744 --> 00:04:09,719 and two trophies on the shelf already. 92 00:04:09,744 --> 00:04:12,049 Incredible. I don't know how it's happened. 93 00:04:12,074 --> 00:04:13,079 Don't ask me. 94 00:04:14,714 --> 00:04:18,488 The sheer scale of Liverpool's dominance dwarfed anything 95 00:04:18,513 --> 00:04:21,439 that had been seen previously in England. 96 00:04:25,263 --> 00:04:28,999 Liverpool were the powerhouse of English football, winning 11 97 00:04:29,024 --> 00:04:33,488 league titles in 18 years, as well as conquering Europe four times. 98 00:04:33,513 --> 00:04:39,158 # Welcome to the Pleasuredome! # 99 00:04:42,874 --> 00:04:47,358 It was in pursuit of a fifth European Cup that Liverpool endured 100 00:04:47,383 --> 00:04:50,488 one of its darkest days. 101 00:04:50,513 --> 00:04:53,129 For the last 50 minutes, 102 00:04:53,154 --> 00:04:56,439 the Heysel Stadium in Brussels, 103 00:04:56,464 --> 00:04:58,288 the capital of Belgium, 104 00:04:58,313 --> 00:05:01,408 has been a sickening and bewildering sight. 105 00:05:03,274 --> 00:05:06,329 We go on the pitch and they're throwing missiles at us, 106 00:05:06,354 --> 00:05:07,929 the Juventus supporters. 107 00:05:07,954 --> 00:05:10,929 So I picked one up, and I remember saying to Alan Kennedy, 108 00:05:10,954 --> 00:05:14,209 "Nobody brings that into the stadium." 109 00:05:14,234 --> 00:05:15,899 And he says, "That is the stadium." 110 00:05:17,203 --> 00:05:20,799 REPORTER: Some Liverpool supporters moved into the Juventus area. 111 00:05:20,824 --> 00:05:24,799 You can see the Juventus supporters trying to get over the wall 112 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:28,769 to our right and down towards the running track. 113 00:05:28,794 --> 00:05:31,799 And it was the pressure of movement down towards the running track 114 00:05:31,824 --> 00:05:36,929 which resulted in the wall giving way. 115 00:05:38,874 --> 00:05:42,929 The first thing that needs to be said is that Liverpool fans 116 00:05:42,954 --> 00:05:47,329 need to accept the blame for a lot of what happened that day. 117 00:05:49,104 --> 00:05:51,608 There were many reasons for Heysel — 118 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:55,439 the stadium was shambles, the police were completely inept. 119 00:05:57,154 --> 00:06:00,639 I was watching it on the television and thinking... 120 00:06:01,714 --> 00:06:03,158 ...this can't be happening. 121 00:06:03,183 --> 00:06:05,158 And the terrible feeling of... 122 00:06:07,154 --> 00:06:08,569 ...responsibility. 123 00:06:08,594 --> 00:06:14,199 REPORTER: And Liverpool's run of success in European Cup finals 124 00:06:14,224 --> 00:06:15,849 comes to an end. 125 00:06:15,874 --> 00:06:18,889 But this is not a night when football will be remembered. 126 00:06:30,464 --> 00:06:32,929 There were no guidelines on how to recover 127 00:06:32,954 --> 00:06:34,439 from such a disaster. 128 00:06:36,544 --> 00:06:40,349 This was football's latest hooligan incident and it led to all English 129 00:06:40,374 --> 00:06:42,428 clubs being banned from Europe. 130 00:06:43,484 --> 00:06:46,278 It was a sad end for retiring manager joe Fagan. 131 00:06:47,513 --> 00:06:51,569 The club needed a lift, so Fagan's successor wasn't from the boot room, 132 00:06:51,594 --> 00:06:54,129 as was tradition, but the dressing room. 133 00:06:54,154 --> 00:06:56,209 It was Liverpool's star player... 134 00:06:57,744 --> 00:06:59,158 ...Kenny Dalglish. 135 00:06:59,183 --> 00:07:00,849 MUSIC: Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel 136 00:07:00,874 --> 00:07:02,358 COMMENTATOR: He is through! 137 00:07:02,383 --> 00:07:03,408 Kenny Dalglish! 138 00:07:03,433 --> 00:07:06,889 That is absolutely outstanding finishing! 139 00:07:06,914 --> 00:07:09,049 Kenny came in and, all of a sudden, 140 00:07:09,074 --> 00:07:12,158 we started to do a little bit about team shape. 141 00:07:12,183 --> 00:07:15,278 We did a little bit about with the ball, without the ball. 142 00:07:15,303 --> 00:07:19,608 Kenny, by that time, was, as he is now, 143 00:07:19,633 --> 00:07:22,329 forever part of the fabric of this place. 144 00:07:22,354 --> 00:07:24,569 And he knew what people wanted. 145 00:07:24,594 --> 00:07:26,969 He knew what the people expected of the players. 146 00:07:26,994 --> 00:07:29,329 And he just changed it because that's what he believed in. 147 00:07:29,354 --> 00:07:31,439 But it wasn't a massive change. 148 00:07:31,464 --> 00:07:33,528 In many ways, it was a good change 149 00:07:33,553 --> 00:07:36,178 because it kind of changed with the times. 150 00:07:36,203 --> 00:07:38,739 In his first season as player-manager, 151 00:07:38,764 --> 00:07:42,079 Kenny led Liverpool to the double, even scoring the goal 152 00:07:42,104 --> 00:07:43,689 that sealed the title. 153 00:07:43,714 --> 00:07:45,278 And Dalglish is in here! 154 00:07:45,303 --> 00:07:47,249 Yes! 155 00:07:47,274 --> 00:07:49,488 The player-manager scores the goal 156 00:07:49,513 --> 00:07:54,209 that may edge Liverpool nearer to their 16th championship! 157 00:07:55,664 --> 00:07:57,329 # Feel the heat... # 158 00:08:00,874 --> 00:08:02,769 I'd been at Watford for six years. 159 00:08:02,794 --> 00:08:04,298 Lovely skill. 160 00:08:05,294 --> 00:08:07,019 What a magnificent goal! 161 00:08:08,744 --> 00:08:10,079 I was playing for England. 162 00:08:10,104 --> 00:08:13,358 I was doing well. But Graham Taylor said to me, at a very young age, 163 00:08:13,383 --> 00:08:15,769 I'll tell you when it's time to go and I'll tell you 164 00:08:15,794 --> 00:08:17,129 where you should be going. 165 00:08:19,234 --> 00:08:22,519 So when Liverpool came in, he said to me, "Liverpool have come in, 166 00:08:22,544 --> 00:08:24,689 "that's the club for you. You're going to Liverpool." 167 00:08:26,303 --> 00:08:28,169 # Get funky now... # 168 00:08:28,194 --> 00:08:31,049 It's been made very easy for myself, Peter Beardsley, Ray Houghton. 169 00:08:31,074 --> 00:08:33,689 Any of the new players who have come in, it's just been made easy for us. 170 00:08:33,714 --> 00:08:35,249 MUSIC: Enola Gay by ELO 171 00:08:35,274 --> 00:08:38,919 john Barnes joined Peter Beardsley and john Aldridge in Liverpool's 172 00:08:38,944 --> 00:08:42,278 new front line for the '87-'88 season. 173 00:08:42,303 --> 00:08:44,129 They played scintillating football. 174 00:08:46,154 --> 00:08:47,879 Oh, look at Barnes here! 175 00:08:47,904 --> 00:08:49,799 They're waiting for the full-back, Beardsley! 176 00:08:49,824 --> 00:08:51,158 0h! 177 00:08:52,464 --> 00:08:54,209 Aldridge is there! Aldridge! 178 00:08:57,183 --> 00:08:59,488 I mean, the wonder of watching John Barnes. 179 00:08:59,513 --> 00:09:01,799 He was just extraordinary. 180 00:09:01,824 --> 00:09:04,168 Oh, Barnes has won it. 181 00:09:04,193 --> 00:09:06,449 He won it from Brock. 182 00:09:06,474 --> 00:09:09,579 He's got Beardsley going to his left, it's still Barnes! 183 00:09:09,604 --> 00:09:11,809 That's a fabulous indefensible goal! 184 00:09:13,034 --> 00:09:16,339 The biggest figure in the culture of the city was John Barnes, 185 00:09:16,364 --> 00:09:18,288 a proud black man from Jamaica. 186 00:09:18,313 --> 00:09:21,009 It broke down a load of barriers. 187 00:09:21,034 --> 00:09:23,979 Those few years were just amazing. 188 00:09:25,034 --> 00:09:26,859 Yeah, we were very spoilt. 189 00:09:26,884 --> 00:09:31,729 Liverpool cruised to the title, winning it by nine points. 190 00:09:31,754 --> 00:09:33,649 Both on and off the pitch, 191 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:35,809 the team were really on-song. 192 00:09:36,954 --> 00:09:39,779 # Liverpool FC is as hard as hell 193 00:09:39,804 --> 00:09:42,139 # United, Tottenham, Arsenal 194 00:09:42,164 --> 00:09:44,368 # Watched my lips and I will spell 195 00:09:44,393 --> 00:09:48,219 # Cos they don't just play but they can rap as well! # 196 00:09:48,244 --> 00:09:50,569 Every time there was a cup final, 197 00:09:50,594 --> 00:09:53,538 there was a song, and we wanted to do something different, 198 00:09:53,563 --> 00:09:55,809 so we used it as an excuse to go to a nightclub 199 00:09:55,834 --> 00:09:58,288 called Quadrant Park dressed up as rappers. 200 00:09:58,313 --> 00:10:00,449 Is this the real john Barnes we're seeing? This is the real 201 00:10:00,474 --> 00:10:02,449 John Barnes. I was a bit conservative when I first came 202 00:10:02,474 --> 00:10:03,649 to Liverpool but this is me now. 203 00:10:03,674 --> 00:10:04,979 So we're there from 12 o'clock. 204 00:10:05,004 --> 00:10:08,168 And by the time we're just about finishing it, it was opening 205 00:10:08,193 --> 00:10:10,929 to the public because it's a rave club. So because we're dressed 206 00:10:10,954 --> 00:10:13,498 like that, we said we might as well stay and enjoy ourselves. 207 00:10:13,523 --> 00:10:16,089 So we stayed and, you know, some people went home, some people 208 00:10:16,114 --> 00:10:18,729 stayed at the club. And, of course, with all the alcohol there, 209 00:10:18,754 --> 00:10:20,569 we enjoyed ourselves thoroughly. 210 00:10:25,213 --> 00:10:26,879 Even Kenny was on the video. 211 00:10:26,904 --> 00:10:29,059 He just went, "Oh, as if," and the song wasn't great. 212 00:10:29,084 --> 00:10:31,288 It stunk. And that's all you could get Kenny to do. 213 00:10:31,313 --> 00:10:33,618 We wanted Kenny to be involved. But Kenny was going, 214 00:10:33,643 --> 00:10:34,899 "No, I'm not going there." 215 00:10:34,924 --> 00:10:37,729 I think they should stick to playing football. Terrible! 216 00:10:37,754 --> 00:10:39,498 What do you think, Kenny? 217 00:10:39,523 --> 00:10:40,529 Oh, yeah! 218 00:10:43,034 --> 00:10:46,139 Liverpool had wrapped up the title and rapped their way 219 00:10:46,164 --> 00:10:47,259 to chart success. 220 00:10:47,284 --> 00:10:51,538 Now they just needed an FA Cup to create a unique treble. 221 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:55,388 Sanchez was in there! And that's a goal for Wimbledon! 222 00:10:57,804 --> 00:11:01,219 The Crazy Gang have beaten the Culture Club! 223 00:11:01,244 --> 00:11:06,259 As giant killings go, this was a big one, but the following season, 224 00:11:06,284 --> 00:11:07,929 Liverpool did what they always did — 225 00:11:07,954 --> 00:11:10,498 dusted themselves down and started again. 226 00:11:11,884 --> 00:11:14,569 It was the season no-one will ever forget. 227 00:11:14,594 --> 00:11:18,418 One that changed Liverpool — both club and city — forever. 228 00:11:26,034 --> 00:11:28,009 In the history of Liverpool... 229 00:11:29,313 --> 00:11:30,368 ...Hillsborough... 230 00:11:32,164 --> 00:11:36,779 ...is unfortunately an important date. 231 00:11:38,164 --> 00:11:42,538 That day, 96 people die. 232 00:11:42,563 --> 00:11:46,618 People from Liverpool suffered, 233 00:11:46,643 --> 00:11:48,159 they were hurt. 234 00:11:49,614 --> 00:11:51,899 It's difficult to explain to people. 235 00:11:53,284 --> 00:11:58,699 You go out and you go to a football match and it's supposed to be... 236 00:11:58,724 --> 00:12:00,139 It's supposed to be fun. 237 00:12:01,643 --> 00:12:04,809 The first inclination I got was two guys come on the pitch 238 00:12:04,834 --> 00:12:06,259 and I go to them. 239 00:12:06,284 --> 00:12:08,009 I say, "You'll get us in trouble here," 240 00:12:08,034 --> 00:12:09,779 and the guy looked at me, and he says... 241 00:12:09,804 --> 00:12:13,339 You could tell the sadness in his eyes 242 00:12:13,364 --> 00:12:16,308 he wasn't making it up. He says, "Al, there's people dying in there." 243 00:12:16,333 --> 00:12:19,589 And there are fans on the pitch here in the six-yard area. 244 00:12:19,614 --> 00:12:22,139 The referee's going to have to stop the game. 245 00:12:22,164 --> 00:12:23,979 There's an overflow behind the goal. 246 00:12:24,004 --> 00:12:26,929 And the police inspector's on the pitch. 247 00:12:29,034 --> 00:12:31,729 The only time I was aware there was a problem, 248 00:12:31,754 --> 00:12:34,618 I've seen people pushed up against the fence and they looked 249 00:12:34,643 --> 00:12:37,498 so uncomfortable and I was, like, that doesn't look right. 250 00:12:37,523 --> 00:12:42,449 Memories, of, you know, trying to pull people up to the other layer, 251 00:12:42,474 --> 00:12:45,168 and fans putting bodies onto hoardings 252 00:12:45,193 --> 00:12:47,368 and running across the pitch with them. 253 00:12:48,594 --> 00:12:49,929 Just.“ 254 00:12:49,954 --> 00:12:52,899 ...transfixed, really, by the horror of it all. 255 00:12:54,443 --> 00:12:56,618 It's been a black day for football on a sunny afternoon 256 00:12:56,643 --> 00:12:58,089 at Hillsborough, Sheffield. 257 00:12:58,114 --> 00:13:01,059 No fewer than 93 football supporters died. 258 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:03,209 On a day of such momentous tragedy, 259 00:13:03,234 --> 00:13:05,929 our sympathies go to the families of those concerned. 260 00:13:08,034 --> 00:13:11,648 My son, who died at Hillsborough, 261 00:13:11,673 --> 00:13:13,839 he was a keen Liverpool supporter. 262 00:13:15,624 --> 00:13:19,129 It's the worst kind of grief that anyone can go through, 263 00:13:19,154 --> 00:13:21,759 is to lose a child. 264 00:13:24,114 --> 00:13:26,599 We all thought about, what's the point? 265 00:13:26,624 --> 00:13:28,849 What's the point of going to a football match if things 266 00:13:28,874 --> 00:13:30,198 like that are going to happen? 267 00:13:30,223 --> 00:13:34,599 A lot of us thought about possibly packing up, doing something else. 268 00:13:36,314 --> 00:13:40,959 I think it had an enormous effect on the club and on individuals — 269 00:13:40,984 --> 00:13:44,089 particularly on Kenny, I think. 270 00:13:44,114 --> 00:13:46,679 Kenny's face was... 271 00:13:46,704 --> 00:13:49,929 I can always see it, just the grief 272 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:54,009 in his face. And he's carried that responsibility. 273 00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:56,009 I think he went to every funeral. 274 00:13:57,314 --> 00:13:59,289 He had to be like a social worker. 275 00:13:59,314 --> 00:14:02,318 He wasn't trained for that. 276 00:14:02,343 --> 00:14:05,849 For Kenny, personally, we owe a great debt... 277 00:14:06,984 --> 00:14:10,849 ...because he was so comforting to all the families. 278 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:22,839 It was quite a scary moment when you know that these people whose loved 279 00:14:22,864 --> 00:14:25,239 ones had gone to a football match and are now dead — and this is, 280 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:27,479 I don't know, two weeks later, probably not even that, 281 00:14:27,504 --> 00:14:29,318 where they're going to come. Cos if that was me, 282 00:14:29,343 --> 00:14:30,929 I wouldn't want to go to a football stadium. 283 00:14:30,954 --> 00:14:34,489 I thought... I still get emotional thinking of it. 284 00:14:35,864 --> 00:14:39,009 I thought it wasn't my place to meet Kenny. 285 00:14:39,034 --> 00:14:41,239 It was my son's place to have met Kenny. 286 00:14:41,264 --> 00:14:43,959 It wasn't my...my place. 287 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:46,039 I didn't go to the football. 288 00:14:46,064 --> 00:14:48,039 James did. 289 00:14:48,064 --> 00:14:50,599 And I just felt very guilty. 290 00:14:50,624 --> 00:14:53,679 I just wanted my son to have met Kenny. 291 00:14:53,704 --> 00:14:55,839 And so many of them were coming into the players' lounge 292 00:14:55,864 --> 00:14:57,039 and they were going, 293 00:14:57,064 --> 00:14:59,959 "| can't believe that I'm here with Kenny Dalglish and John Barnes," 294 00:14:59,984 --> 00:15:03,239 and, whoever they lost, "If they could see me now in the lounge 295 00:15:03,264 --> 00:15:05,398 "with my heroes, they would just be loving it." 296 00:15:05,423 --> 00:15:08,169 And that showed how much their club means to them. 297 00:15:08,194 --> 00:15:11,849 That really made a huge impression on my understanding, 298 00:15:11,874 --> 00:15:14,009 which I already had after a year, 299 00:15:14,034 --> 00:15:16,729 of the relationship between the club and the fans. 300 00:15:16,754 --> 00:15:20,209 I often wonder, what support did THEY get? 301 00:15:20,234 --> 00:15:25,169 They were giving it to us, but what support did THEY get? 302 00:15:41,234 --> 00:15:45,398 I went to the cup final just shortly afterwards and it seemed so right 303 00:15:45,423 --> 00:15:47,089 that we were playing Everton. 304 00:15:48,234 --> 00:15:51,009 COMMENTATOR: Obviously it is a cup final, but no doubt the players, 305 00:15:51,034 --> 00:15:54,119 too, are keenly aware of the circumstances of this 306 00:15:54,144 --> 00:15:56,959 particular match, which they're now walking out to play. 307 00:15:58,834 --> 00:16:00,879 It was fitting that it was a Merseyside cup final, 308 00:16:00,904 --> 00:16:03,599 because, don't forget, Evertonians would have lost brothers and cousins 309 00:16:03,624 --> 00:16:05,289 and loved ones in that, as well. 310 00:16:05,314 --> 00:16:09,209 What was great about it is it was a coming together of the city. 311 00:16:09,234 --> 00:16:11,839 It was a very, very emotional day. 312 00:16:11,864 --> 00:16:16,479 PA: In memory of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster... 313 00:16:16,504 --> 00:16:20,169 There was a minute's silence before the game 314 00:16:20,194 --> 00:16:22,648 and I couldn't handle it. 315 00:16:22,673 --> 00:16:26,879 I went downstairs and basically stood in the toilets. 316 00:16:28,834 --> 00:16:31,448 I'd rather do my crying there than upstairs. 317 00:16:34,114 --> 00:16:35,448 McMahon. Barnes. 318 00:16:37,904 --> 00:16:39,239 Rush! 319 00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:40,448 Goa“. 320 00:16:43,423 --> 00:16:44,849 3-2, Liverpool. 321 00:16:44,874 --> 00:16:46,839 Ian Rush gets his second. 322 00:16:48,314 --> 00:16:50,119 And this now becomes one of the most 323 00:16:50,144 --> 00:16:52,809 dramatic FA Cup finals of recent times. 324 00:16:55,473 --> 00:16:58,959 So much emotion, joy and sorrow. 325 00:16:58,984 --> 00:17:02,318 I mean, just...an extraordinary day. 326 00:17:03,394 --> 00:17:07,959 And Liverpool have won the FA Cup, the first leg of the double 327 00:17:07,984 --> 00:17:09,809 and perhaps softened the pain that 328 00:17:09,834 --> 00:17:12,489 so many of their supports have been through recently. 329 00:17:13,984 --> 00:17:17,119 And in a fine, dramatic final, surely lifted the spirits 330 00:17:17,144 --> 00:17:20,448 of a whole city... and of the game of football. 331 00:17:22,673 --> 00:17:26,378 I always believed that that should have been the year 332 00:17:26,403 --> 00:17:29,089 that the FA Cup wasn't played for. 333 00:17:29,114 --> 00:17:32,739 I thought it'd be nice as a legacy for the 96, 334 00:17:32,764 --> 00:17:36,019 but now I think back and reflect on it all, 335 00:17:36,044 --> 00:17:38,019 yeah, it was good for the fans, maybe. 336 00:17:38,044 --> 00:17:39,939 Good for the city. 337 00:17:41,244 --> 00:17:45,139 Just six days after having won the cup, Liverpool played Arsenal 338 00:17:45,164 --> 00:17:47,989 at Anfield, hoping to win the double. 339 00:17:48,014 --> 00:17:51,789 All they needed to do was avoid losing by more than one goal. 340 00:17:52,964 --> 00:17:54,349 And Thomas goes inside Nicol! 341 00:17:54,374 --> 00:17:55,709 And Thomas is there! 342 00:17:55,734 --> 00:17:58,349 And Thomas has scored for Arsenal! 343 00:17:58,374 --> 00:18:02,349 And Arsenal have won the Championship here at Anfield. 344 00:18:05,094 --> 00:18:08,498 On the Kop that night, when it went in, there was shock and then 345 00:18:08,523 --> 00:18:11,298 someone — a voice further back — just said, 346 00:18:11,323 --> 00:18:13,739 "You know what? Worse things happen." 347 00:18:14,734 --> 00:18:16,378 It was one of those strange things. 348 00:18:16,403 --> 00:18:18,428 It was a moment that broke the misery, 349 00:18:18,453 --> 00:18:20,269 broke the depth of misery. 350 00:18:20,294 --> 00:18:23,069 CROWD: # ..with hope in your heart 351 00:18:23,094 --> 00:18:27,709 # And you'll never walk alone... # 352 00:18:31,934 --> 00:18:36,469 It had been the most turbulent of seasons, but the supporters now 353 00:18:36,494 --> 00:18:39,019 had a bigger battle to deal with — 354 00:18:39,044 --> 00:18:43,019 the truth of what happened at Hillsborough had yet to be told. 355 00:18:43,044 --> 00:18:46,628 It was a fight that would last decades. 356 00:18:46,653 --> 00:18:47,829 It's not unusual 357 00:18:47,854 --> 00:18:51,459 in the history of Liverpool for its people to become 358 00:18:51,484 --> 00:18:57,069 folk devils, for the media to exaggerate and, frankly, 359 00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:59,189 lie about their behaviour. 360 00:18:59,214 --> 00:19:01,189 Well, we all know it was a... 361 00:19:01,214 --> 00:19:02,548 SHE CLEARS HER THROAT 362 00:19:02,573 --> 00:19:06,019 There's a certain newspaper that we'll never forgive 363 00:19:06,044 --> 00:19:11,139 and to have them headlines that your fans urinated on the dead, 364 00:19:11,164 --> 00:19:14,219 robbed the dead, kicked the police 365 00:19:14,244 --> 00:19:17,269 when they were trying to give CPR. 366 00:19:17,294 --> 00:19:19,349 People believed this, 367 00:19:19,374 --> 00:19:22,378 and...this has haunted us ever since. 368 00:19:22,403 --> 00:19:27,548 And for the families of the dead, for the survivors, 369 00:19:27,573 --> 00:19:33,069 for the witnesses, it's been an extra layer of... 370 00:19:33,094 --> 00:19:35,548 HE EXHALES 371 00:19:35,573 --> 00:19:37,019 ...misery. 372 00:19:37,044 --> 00:19:39,219 And that really, really got to me, 373 00:19:39,244 --> 00:19:42,428 and I thought... At that time, straight away, I thought, 374 00:19:42,453 --> 00:19:44,498 "We've got a fight on our hands." 375 00:19:46,094 --> 00:19:49,829 Both club and supporters were united in this fight. 376 00:19:49,854 --> 00:19:53,428 The players knew that creating memories on the pitch might help. 377 00:19:53,453 --> 00:19:58,069 The next season, they regrouped and challenged for the title again. 378 00:19:58,094 --> 00:20:01,019 And that could mean that the championship goes to Anfield 379 00:20:01,044 --> 00:20:02,779 for the 18th time. 380 00:20:02,804 --> 00:20:06,349 Well, there are scenes of delight all around Anfield. 381 00:20:06,374 --> 00:20:10,548 The Kop alive with passion and emotion. 382 00:20:10,573 --> 00:20:13,779 I remember the presentation ceremony in 1990 and looking 383 00:20:13,804 --> 00:20:17,739 down at Alan Hansen, who was struggling to get comfy. 384 00:20:17,764 --> 00:20:21,748 He couldn't stand or kneel for the photographs. 385 00:20:21,773 --> 00:20:25,659 In the end, he went and got behind somebody and leaned on him. 386 00:20:25,684 --> 00:20:27,269 His knees had gone. 387 00:20:27,294 --> 00:20:30,099 I knew that was literally the end of an era 388 00:20:30,124 --> 00:20:31,219 in more ways than one. 389 00:20:32,734 --> 00:20:34,779 They were mentally worn down. 390 00:20:34,804 --> 00:20:38,189 And I think that sense of not coming to terms 391 00:20:38,214 --> 00:20:41,939 with your experiences and the mental burdens that come 392 00:20:41,964 --> 00:20:45,298 with that...| think were apparent that year. 393 00:20:46,934 --> 00:20:49,139 Every experience leaves its mark. 394 00:20:50,374 --> 00:20:53,069 Having been a focal point for not just the club, 395 00:20:53,094 --> 00:20:56,418 but at times what felt like the entire city, 396 00:20:56,443 --> 00:21:00,498 Kenny — King Kenny — decided he could reign no more. 397 00:21:03,374 --> 00:21:05,989 The biggest problem was... 398 00:21:06,014 --> 00:21:07,349 ...was the pressure... 399 00:21:09,604 --> 00:21:11,298 ...| was putting myself under... 400 00:21:13,094 --> 00:21:15,779 ...because of my desire to be successful. 401 00:21:16,934 --> 00:21:18,628 Hillsborough took its toll on Kenny. 402 00:21:18,653 --> 00:21:21,579 I mean, if you look at the picture of Kenny the day he retired, 403 00:21:21,604 --> 00:21:24,378 and he goes to Florida, comes back six weeks later, 404 00:21:24,403 --> 00:21:25,659 it's a different man. 405 00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:27,709 It's a different — totally different — man. 406 00:21:27,734 --> 00:21:28,989 See ya, Ken. Ta—ra, lads. 407 00:21:30,854 --> 00:21:36,269 So the realisation later on that what he was suffering with was... 408 00:21:37,884 --> 00:21:39,548 ...kind of the same thing... 409 00:21:40,684 --> 00:21:45,109 ...that I personally — and lots of others like me — were suffering. 410 00:21:45,134 --> 00:21:47,349 Grief is the only way I can describe it. 411 00:21:49,214 --> 00:21:53,349 I was quite devastated, actually, because you always wonder, 412 00:21:53,374 --> 00:21:57,748 who's going to be the next manager? Will they understand how we feel? 413 00:21:57,773 --> 00:22:00,939 But at the same time, we understood it. 414 00:22:00,964 --> 00:22:03,859 We understood why he had...he resigned. 415 00:22:05,494 --> 00:22:08,579 It couldn't have been predicted at the time, but Dalglish leaving 416 00:22:08,604 --> 00:22:10,269 was the end of an era. 417 00:22:10,294 --> 00:22:14,269 His departure led to the Great Red Drought. 418 00:22:16,653 --> 00:22:19,498 The club continued their tried and trusted method. 419 00:22:19,523 --> 00:22:23,469 When the manager left, the successor was always one of their own. 420 00:22:23,494 --> 00:22:26,109 You're Graeme Souness, aren't ya? 421 00:22:26,134 --> 00:22:27,139 Yeah. 422 00:22:28,604 --> 00:22:30,498 You look like me. 423 00:22:30,523 --> 00:22:31,548 Oh. aye'? 424 00:22:34,044 --> 00:22:36,298 Now it was the turn of Graeme Souness, 425 00:22:36,323 --> 00:22:38,779 who'd left the club as a player a year before 426 00:22:38,804 --> 00:22:41,829 the Heysel tragedy, and had success as Rangers manager. 427 00:22:41,854 --> 00:22:44,548 Well, of course, everybody was delighted when Graeme Souness came 428 00:22:44,573 --> 00:22:46,859 because it was a Liverpool promotion. 429 00:22:46,884 --> 00:22:48,469 Souness! 430 00:22:50,294 --> 00:22:52,269 Souness plays the gap behind the defence. 431 00:22:52,294 --> 00:22:53,709 And gets in! 432 00:22:55,014 --> 00:22:58,269 He was distanced from the disaster. 433 00:22:58,294 --> 00:23:01,659 He'd come in and restore a sense of perspective. 434 00:23:01,684 --> 00:23:05,659 A lot was changing in terms of the food, the diets, 435 00:23:05,684 --> 00:23:08,378 the nutrition, which was all coming into football anyway. 436 00:23:10,244 --> 00:23:13,269 Liverpool were renowned as the biggest drinkers in the league. 437 00:23:13,294 --> 00:23:15,748 They said, "You live your life how you want to live your life. 438 00:23:15,773 --> 00:23:17,469 "If you've got to be hungover, you be hungover, 439 00:23:17,494 --> 00:23:18,579 "but you train properly." 440 00:23:18,604 --> 00:23:20,659 And having been part of it — and there were still players 441 00:23:20,684 --> 00:23:24,469 who knew he was part of it there — he wanted to change it and stop it. 442 00:23:24,494 --> 00:23:27,418 Stop them getting blind drunk every night. 443 00:23:27,443 --> 00:23:29,269 They didn't like it. 444 00:23:32,214 --> 00:23:36,579 I think it was actually probably too early in his managerial career 445 00:23:36,604 --> 00:23:39,378 because he came to Liverpool and he let one or two players 446 00:23:39,403 --> 00:23:41,139 go too early. 447 00:23:41,164 --> 00:23:43,939 When I was a player, there was only one club to play for, and when 448 00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:46,189 someone comes to me and says, "Well, I'd rather be somewhere else," 449 00:23:46,214 --> 00:23:48,469 that was it. It was back them out. It was finished. Let's go. 450 00:23:48,494 --> 00:23:50,498 Let's get them out the door as quickly as possible. 451 00:23:50,523 --> 00:23:51,779 That was the big mistake I made. 452 00:23:51,804 --> 00:23:54,548 One of the things Liverpool did really well over the years, 453 00:23:54,573 --> 00:23:56,779 they'd always buy from a position of strength. 454 00:23:56,804 --> 00:24:00,389 They'd always bring in new players when they were successful. 455 00:24:00,414 --> 00:24:03,349 After Hillsborough, they lost their way in that area as well. 456 00:24:03,374 --> 00:24:05,909 And it got to the stage whereby the only two senior players left 457 00:24:05,934 --> 00:24:07,739 who had been there were me and Rushy, 458 00:24:07,764 --> 00:24:10,219 so you had a lot of young players and a lot of new players coming in, 459 00:24:10,244 --> 00:24:12,779 so the Liverpool way wasn't there any more. 460 00:24:17,214 --> 00:24:20,109 Performances on the pitch began to suffer. 461 00:24:20,134 --> 00:24:23,219 Liverpool were no longer title contenders, though they did 462 00:24:23,244 --> 00:24:26,139 win the FA Cup in 1992. 463 00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:27,349 Thomas through the middle again. 464 00:24:27,374 --> 00:24:28,548 Michael Thomas. 465 00:24:28,573 --> 00:24:29,829 Rush! 466 00:24:29,854 --> 00:24:31,269 2-0, Liverpool. 467 00:24:33,214 --> 00:24:35,909 Liverpool win the FA Cup for the fifth time 468 00:24:35,934 --> 00:24:38,219 and in their centenary year, as well. 469 00:24:39,764 --> 00:24:42,548 The priorities, as always, for Liverpool Football Club 470 00:24:42,573 --> 00:24:44,779 will be the First Division championship next season 471 00:24:44,804 --> 00:24:46,939 and, from that point of view, they'd a bad season this season. 472 00:24:46,964 --> 00:24:48,469 They finished sixth. 473 00:24:53,134 --> 00:24:55,939 What struck me was, yes, OK, we're losing games — and from a winning 474 00:24:55,964 --> 00:24:58,829 mentality point of view — but, more importantly, things that were 475 00:24:58,854 --> 00:25:00,219 happening in training. 476 00:25:00,244 --> 00:25:02,748 And that was a problem at Liverpool — the way we were preparing 477 00:25:02,773 --> 00:25:04,189 Monday to Friday. 478 00:25:04,214 --> 00:25:08,548 And in many respects, to be fair to Graeme, a lot of it then became 479 00:25:08,573 --> 00:25:11,189 if we lost, who's going to get the blame? 480 00:25:14,414 --> 00:25:17,219 His commitment and his passion for Liverpool is unbelievable, 481 00:25:17,244 --> 00:25:19,659 but because he's committed and passionate about Liverpool, 482 00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:21,579 it doesn't mean he's the right guy to run the team. 483 00:25:21,604 --> 00:25:23,498 He said he loves Liverpool, OK? 484 00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:25,579 So if he does, he should go. 485 00:25:25,604 --> 00:25:29,109 It wasn't a nice atmosphere towards the end. 486 00:25:29,134 --> 00:25:34,139 It was a very conflicting and confrontational atmosphere. 487 00:25:34,164 --> 00:25:37,779 By tradition, Liverpool had always stood by their managers, but poor 488 00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:40,489 league performances, compounded with an FA Cup defeat 489 00:25:40,514 --> 00:25:44,159 to Division One side Bristol City, put an end to all that. 490 00:25:44,184 --> 00:25:48,409 Great delight for them, but you just wonder what this might have done 491 00:25:48,434 --> 00:25:50,599 to Liverpool's season. 492 00:25:51,673 --> 00:25:55,489 I am extremely sorry to have to announce that Graeme Souness 493 00:25:55,514 --> 00:25:59,159 has offered his resignation from the post of team manager. 494 00:25:59,184 --> 00:26:02,438 The results in the league and the domestic European Cup 495 00:26:02,463 --> 00:26:06,599 competitions have been well below what is expected by the club 496 00:26:06,624 --> 00:26:07,959 and the supporters. 497 00:26:14,984 --> 00:26:19,879 The dawn of the Premier League in 1992 heralded a glitzy, modern, 498 00:26:19,904 --> 00:26:21,959 more brand-aware world for football. 499 00:26:21,984 --> 00:26:24,719 It's a chance, really, to get the structure of professional 500 00:26:24,744 --> 00:26:26,239 football right for the next hundred years. 501 00:26:26,264 --> 00:26:28,079 We'll never have another opportunity like this. 502 00:26:28,104 --> 00:26:31,929 I think, in some ways, Liverpool got left behind off the pitch. 503 00:26:31,954 --> 00:26:35,489 With the riches that came into the Premier League, 504 00:26:35,514 --> 00:26:39,849 Manchester United, for example, ended up as a listed company, 505 00:26:39,874 --> 00:26:42,879 just when there was a bit of a revolution off the pitch, 506 00:26:42,904 --> 00:26:46,679 and maybe Liverpool got caught a little bit napping in that sense. 507 00:26:46,704 --> 00:26:49,438 Bruce! Yes! 508 00:26:49,463 --> 00:26:52,318 Not only were United stealing a march off the pitch, 509 00:26:52,343 --> 00:26:54,489 they were miles ahead on it. 510 00:26:54,514 --> 00:26:57,768 Their Great Red Drought was being washed away by a crop 511 00:26:57,793 --> 00:27:01,768 of talented youngsters and a very modest Frenchman. 512 00:27:01,793 --> 00:27:05,768 They won trophy after trophy, and it was all masterminded 513 00:27:05,793 --> 00:27:09,398 by their own Scottish alchemist, Sir Alex Ferguson. 514 00:27:13,264 --> 00:27:17,359 Liverpool's strategy to combat all of this change was to do exactly 515 00:27:17,384 --> 00:27:19,209 what they'd always done. 516 00:27:19,234 --> 00:27:22,929 They promoted Roy Evans from assistant to manager. 517 00:27:22,954 --> 00:27:24,518 Good morning. 518 00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:28,359 So I suppose it's, erm... We're back to basics, I suppose, in a way. 519 00:27:29,984 --> 00:27:32,599 But maybe that's the way we should be going. 520 00:27:32,624 --> 00:27:33,879 I think it would be silly to say, 521 00:27:33,904 --> 00:27:36,129 "Well, I've take the job and now be afraid of it." 522 00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:40,568 I think it's nice to have your own destiny in your own hands. 523 00:27:40,593 --> 00:27:42,648 And then I went home and I thought, 524 00:27:42,673 --> 00:27:45,318 "Cor, blimey, I've just said I want to be the manager of Liverpool. 525 00:27:45,343 --> 00:27:49,489 "At the end of the day, everything now is down to me, I suppose." 526 00:27:49,514 --> 00:27:51,719 For the first week or so you think, 527 00:27:51,744 --> 00:27:53,879 "Oh, God, what's this going to be like?" 528 00:27:53,904 --> 00:27:55,079 OK? All right. 529 00:27:55,104 --> 00:27:57,289 And don't start off with anything about "Liverpool are on fire". 530 00:27:57,314 --> 00:27:59,768 No, no, no. LAUGHTER 531 00:27:59,793 --> 00:28:03,688 Evans inherited Liverpool's own crop of brilliant young players. 532 00:28:03,713 --> 00:28:08,079 Steve McManaman, jamie Redknapp and a superstar local striker. 533 00:28:09,234 --> 00:28:11,289 It's Robbie Fowler. It's three. 534 00:28:12,984 --> 00:28:14,568 I loved him as a manager. 535 00:28:14,593 --> 00:28:16,239 The belief he instilled into the players, 536 00:28:16,264 --> 00:28:17,688 I think was quite frightening. 537 00:28:17,713 --> 00:28:20,568 McManaman. Fowler. 538 00:28:20,593 --> 00:28:21,959 McManaman. 539 00:28:21,984 --> 00:28:23,719 It's a glorious goal! 540 00:28:25,343 --> 00:28:27,318 No qualms at all with Roy Evans. 541 00:28:27,343 --> 00:28:30,768 We got on really well and, of course, he gave me my debut, 542 00:28:30,793 --> 00:28:31,999 put a lot of faith in me. 543 00:28:35,704 --> 00:28:37,929 Evans reinstated the Liverpool tradition 544 00:28:37,954 --> 00:28:39,999 of having fun off the pitch. 545 00:28:40,024 --> 00:28:43,209 Socially, them clays, the players could go out occasionally, 546 00:28:43,234 --> 00:28:44,318 have a drink. 547 00:28:44,343 --> 00:28:45,679 I had no problem with that. 548 00:28:49,543 --> 00:28:52,891 I didn't really take much notice of, you know, what the press were saying 549 00:28:52,916 --> 00:28:55,451 about, you know, they go out drinking and things like that. 550 00:28:58,836 --> 00:29:00,811 It was like, "Come on, we're having a lads' day out. 551 00:29:00,836 --> 00:29:02,251 "We're all going to the races." 552 00:29:02,276 --> 00:29:05,201 And you had to go. It wasn't sort of...an option. 553 00:29:05,226 --> 00:29:06,561 CHEERING 554 00:29:08,916 --> 00:29:12,961 The Spice Boys, they certainly never packed away the sort of 555 00:29:12,986 --> 00:29:16,171 number of pints that the predecessors did, 556 00:29:16,196 --> 00:29:19,921 but they were into a different sort of lifestyle. 557 00:29:19,946 --> 00:29:23,730 We obviously went out and we enjoyed ourselves, but we went out 558 00:29:23,755 --> 00:29:25,961 and enjoyed ourselves at the right time. 559 00:29:25,986 --> 00:29:28,730 I think the fact is that we never won the league but, you know, 560 00:29:28,755 --> 00:29:31,451 it wasn't through the lack of trying or the want of trying. 561 00:29:31,476 --> 00:29:34,251 We were just a little bit unfortunate that there was another 562 00:29:34,276 --> 00:29:37,921 team just down the road who were probably slightly better than us. 563 00:29:41,305 --> 00:29:42,961 Nice suits, those, aren't they? 564 00:29:42,986 --> 00:29:46,171 See the pockets? Look at the back of... 565 00:29:46,196 --> 00:29:48,861 I mean, I won't throw the blame on anyone but, 566 00:29:48,886 --> 00:29:52,581 you know, at the time, David James was a model for Armani. 567 00:29:52,606 --> 00:29:57,191 I don't think we were the first team who's ever wore dodgy suits. 568 00:29:57,216 --> 00:29:58,941 I'm in my 30s, I think, 569 00:29:58,966 --> 00:30:01,500 "Well, I'd like a nice little blue Armani suit 570 00:30:01,525 --> 00:30:02,941 "because I'm going to retire 571 00:30:02,966 --> 00:30:06,391 "and if I have an Armani suit, I can wear it till I'm 50." 572 00:30:06,416 --> 00:30:07,955 Watch out for your pens, please, 573 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:10,567 because you can see the white suit... 574 00:30:10,592 --> 00:30:11,606 Move that pen. 575 00:30:11,631 --> 00:30:13,457 Uh-uh. No. 576 00:30:13,482 --> 00:30:16,377 But, of course, I got outvoted. 577 00:30:18,952 --> 00:30:21,047 Scholes in the six—yard area. 578 00:30:21,072 --> 00:30:22,897 Five behind. 579 00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:24,927 James gets there, just first. 580 00:30:24,952 --> 00:30:25,967 Cantona! 581 00:30:30,482 --> 00:30:34,127 Massively disappointed in terms of how it turned out. 582 00:30:34,152 --> 00:30:36,817 If I was to go back in my career and I could change one result, 583 00:30:36,842 --> 00:30:39,207 I think that would be the one. 584 00:30:39,232 --> 00:30:43,567 Dodgy suits aside, Liverpool did manage to turn on the style 585 00:30:43,592 --> 00:30:45,567 the following season, but they just 586 00:30:45,592 --> 00:30:47,817 missed out on a Champions League place. 587 00:30:47,842 --> 00:30:51,327 With only one League Cup in Roy's trophy cabinet, 588 00:30:51,352 --> 00:30:54,897 the media spotlight began to focus on the man in charge. 589 00:30:54,922 --> 00:30:58,177 How would you describe yourself, Roy? What sort of a man are you? 590 00:30:58,202 --> 00:30:59,967 They've always called me Steady Eddie 591 00:30:59,992 --> 00:31:01,736 and I suppose that's about right, really. 592 00:31:01,761 --> 00:31:04,536 I don't go too far from the middle line. 593 00:31:04,561 --> 00:31:07,177 Come out if you want. Come out if you want! 594 00:31:07,202 --> 00:31:10,207 Roy did a really, really good job. 595 00:31:10,232 --> 00:31:13,406 He just couldn't quite, you know, win the big one. 596 00:31:13,431 --> 00:31:15,736 It always seemed to have eluded him. 597 00:31:15,761 --> 00:31:18,767 And I think, if anything, with him, he was — and I hate this phrase, 598 00:31:18,792 --> 00:31:21,097 but I'm going to use it — he was too nice. 599 00:31:21,122 --> 00:31:22,486 Stand up, Robbie, stand up, Robbie. 600 00:31:22,511 --> 00:31:23,647 Well done, well done. 601 00:31:23,672 --> 00:31:25,406 No, I disagree with this, to be honest. 602 00:31:25,431 --> 00:31:28,687 Regardless of what anyone says about Roy, 603 00:31:28,712 --> 00:31:31,327 I always thought he was a tough manager. 604 00:31:31,352 --> 00:31:33,817 You know, there's loads of different ways to skin a cat 605 00:31:33,842 --> 00:31:37,177 and Roy Evans was absolutely... very, very good manager, 606 00:31:37,202 --> 00:31:41,736 and Liverpool could have won the league under his tutelage. 607 00:31:41,761 --> 00:31:44,457 Get it, Macca, get it, Macca, get it, Macca, get it, Macca. 608 00:31:44,482 --> 00:31:45,567 Good tackle, there. 609 00:31:45,592 --> 00:31:47,377 LAUGHTER 610 00:31:52,042 --> 00:31:55,847 In '98, we felt that we were going to have to make a tough decision, 611 00:31:55,872 --> 00:32:01,127 make a change, because top of the table is where we wanted to be 612 00:32:01,152 --> 00:32:04,486 and...that's when the decision was taken to bring 613 00:32:04,511 --> 00:32:07,207 in Gerard Houllier. 614 00:32:07,232 --> 00:32:11,486 That was my idea initially because I thought that Roy Evans had done 615 00:32:11,511 --> 00:32:13,647 a good job and I thought it was unfair, 616 00:32:13,672 --> 00:32:17,736 so I said we can have some kind of joint management. 617 00:32:17,761 --> 00:32:20,767 A big decision taken together. 618 00:32:20,792 --> 00:32:22,687 Sometimes it's just minor things. 619 00:32:22,712 --> 00:32:24,767 Either Roy or... 620 00:32:24,792 --> 00:32:26,847 We won't be doing this every week together — 621 00:32:26,872 --> 00:32:29,127 some weeks I'll do it, some weeks Gerard will do it — 622 00:32:29,152 --> 00:32:31,847 but there's got to be some benefits to it somewhere! 623 00:32:31,872 --> 00:32:33,967 It was a bold step for Liverpool to take. 624 00:32:33,992 --> 00:32:37,887 Maybe it was a case of, can we minimise the risk 625 00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:42,047 by having a degree of compromise? 626 00:32:43,122 --> 00:32:46,687 It might have been a bold move to begin with, but as soon as results 627 00:32:46,712 --> 00:32:50,847 started dropping off, there was a sense that, as far as managers go, 628 00:32:50,872 --> 00:32:53,406 it is better to walk alone. 629 00:32:53,431 --> 00:32:55,736 You've got to have one man making the decisions — 630 00:32:55,761 --> 00:32:58,047 whether it's substitutions, team selection, 631 00:32:58,072 --> 00:33:01,207 leaving people out or whatever — so one man should be in charge. 632 00:33:01,232 --> 00:33:02,967 You can't do it by committee? No. 633 00:33:02,992 --> 00:33:04,887 If you call people joint managers... 634 00:33:06,072 --> 00:33:09,486 ...then...from that start then, you're going to have a problem. 635 00:33:10,712 --> 00:33:13,637 It's not a matter of personality 636 00:33:13,662 --> 00:33:15,887 between Roy and myself. 637 00:33:15,912 --> 00:33:19,327 I think he's a very nice man, very nice person. 638 00:33:19,352 --> 00:33:21,486 Obviously he's not my favourite man in the whole world, 639 00:33:21,511 --> 00:33:23,486 but that's...that's...that's life. 640 00:33:23,511 --> 00:33:25,817 But I don't blame him in any shape or form. 641 00:33:25,842 --> 00:33:30,457 "Today is a sad day for Liverpool Football Club and for me personally 642 00:33:30,482 --> 00:33:34,047 "as I have to inform you that we have agreed, by mutual consent, 643 00:33:34,072 --> 00:33:36,967 "that Roy Evans and his assistant, Doug Livermore, 644 00:33:36,992 --> 00:33:38,567 "are to leave the club." 645 00:33:39,952 --> 00:33:42,656 He's not somebody who would knife you in the back, you know, he's... 646 00:33:45,072 --> 00:33:48,377 Really, it's because the situation doesn't fit. 647 00:33:50,431 --> 00:33:51,907 I love the bones of this place. 648 00:33:51,932 --> 00:33:55,266 It's been everything to me and I've been delighted to work here 649 00:33:55,291 --> 00:33:58,887 and I appreciate all the help I've had. 650 00:33:58,912 --> 00:34:01,327 In football, sometimes it's a ruthless business. 651 00:34:01,352 --> 00:34:03,286 Sometimes you have to look after yourself 652 00:34:03,311 --> 00:34:06,767 and, possibly, he was better at doing that than me. 653 00:34:14,962 --> 00:34:17,097 The board was very good to me. 654 00:34:18,152 --> 00:34:24,297 They said, "We don't have all the qualities in the world. 655 00:34:24,322 --> 00:34:28,327 "There's one virtue that we have — we are patient. 656 00:34:28,352 --> 00:34:31,207 "Take your time. Do what you have to do. 657 00:34:31,232 --> 00:34:32,526 "We'll back you." 658 00:34:32,551 --> 00:34:36,276 I came back to my staff and I said, "Now I know we're going to win." 659 00:34:37,681 --> 00:34:40,526 I think there was an acceptance that the culture of the club needed to 660 00:34:40,551 --> 00:34:42,526 change by the players. 661 00:34:42,551 --> 00:34:46,817 The players who had resisted were largely got rid of 662 00:34:46,842 --> 00:34:51,127 and you could see the development of players like Michael Owen, 663 00:34:51,152 --> 00:34:53,767 you know, Steven, Carragher. 664 00:34:53,792 --> 00:34:57,486 For Liverpool, number 28 is Steven Gerard. 665 00:34:57,511 --> 00:34:59,817 In an under—19 game, 666 00:34:59,842 --> 00:35:02,207 Steve Heighway asked me to go and see... 667 00:35:03,761 --> 00:35:06,817 ...a player playing on the right. 668 00:35:06,842 --> 00:35:11,730 The guy who caught my eye that day was Steven Gerrard. 669 00:35:11,755 --> 00:35:15,272 And he was in the middle of the park going from box to box, tackling, 670 00:35:15,297 --> 00:35:21,843 shouting, showing some leadership quality despite his young age, 671 00:35:21,868 --> 00:35:25,093 so I decided to take him with me the next day. 672 00:35:28,478 --> 00:35:32,763 Birmingham City and Liverpool! 673 00:35:32,788 --> 00:35:35,813 2001 was, I think, a tremendous year. 674 00:35:35,838 --> 00:35:37,813 It started with the League Cup. 675 00:35:39,118 --> 00:35:42,373 The Scouse captain of Liverpool scores an absolutely stunning goal. 676 00:35:44,908 --> 00:35:47,843 I think that was the most difficult final! 677 00:35:47,868 --> 00:35:50,093 Andy Johnson, right foot. 678 00:35:50,118 --> 00:35:51,453 It's saved by Westerveld! 679 00:35:51,478 --> 00:35:53,683 And Liverpool have won the Worthington Cup! 680 00:35:56,118 --> 00:36:00,173 That trophy was very important. 681 00:36:00,198 --> 00:36:04,652 It took some pressure off the team, you know — we'd won something. 682 00:36:04,677 --> 00:36:07,602 Growing up, if you'd given me one game to score the winner in, 683 00:36:07,627 --> 00:36:09,933 it would have been FA Cup final. 684 00:36:09,958 --> 00:36:12,453 And I was so confident going into the game, 685 00:36:12,478 --> 00:36:16,522 but for 85 minutes I just hadn't had a sniff of a chance. 686 00:36:16,547 --> 00:36:17,602 Pushing and shoving. 687 00:36:17,627 --> 00:36:18,732 And there's the shot. 688 00:36:18,757 --> 00:36:20,093 And there's the equaliser! 689 00:36:21,478 --> 00:36:22,482 Michael Owen! 690 00:36:25,348 --> 00:36:27,482 I just knew once I scored that goal, 691 00:36:27,507 --> 00:36:29,522 j0gging past Arsenal players, 692 00:36:29,547 --> 00:36:31,933 seeing how slumped they were, 693 00:36:31,958 --> 00:36:34,482 and then just looking at the clock thinking, 694 00:36:34,507 --> 00:36:36,013 "Right — have I got enough time now 695 00:36:36,038 --> 00:36:38,963 "to finish them off or am I going to have to do it in extra time?" 696 00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:40,293 This is Berger. 697 00:36:40,318 --> 00:36:43,093 And Robbie Fowler looks sprightly now. Watched the ball, played early, 698 00:36:43,118 --> 00:36:44,123 but so does Owen! 699 00:36:44,148 --> 00:36:46,203 And he's getting the other side of Dixon. 700 00:36:46,228 --> 00:36:47,813 Michael Owen for Liverpool... 701 00:36:47,838 --> 00:36:49,843 Yes! Oh, he's done it! 702 00:36:49,868 --> 00:36:51,933 What an incredible goal for Michael Owen! 703 00:36:53,268 --> 00:36:54,272 Unbelievable stuff. 704 00:36:58,398 --> 00:37:03,243 I've possibly scored more famous goals, but give me one day again 705 00:37:03,268 --> 00:37:05,323 and I'd relive that day. 706 00:37:15,677 --> 00:37:17,883 Come on, boys, come on. 707 00:37:17,908 --> 00:37:20,043 One good ball in. 708 00:37:20,068 --> 00:37:23,093 COMMENTATOR: Five Liverpool players to attack the wall. 709 00:37:23,118 --> 00:37:24,602 Oh, it's an own goal! 710 00:37:24,627 --> 00:37:28,123 YEAH! YEAHHH! 711 00:37:28,148 --> 00:37:30,402 That was an own goal, wasn't it? 712 00:37:30,427 --> 00:37:31,763 Was that an own goal?! 713 00:37:31,788 --> 00:37:36,852 A smile on the face of Gerard Houllier at the end. 714 00:37:38,708 --> 00:37:41,093 After so many years without trophies, 715 00:37:41,118 --> 00:37:44,602 suddenly Liverpool couldn't stop winning them. 716 00:37:44,627 --> 00:37:46,843 And before long, they added two more 717 00:37:46,868 --> 00:37:50,093 by winning the Super Cup and the Charity Shield. 718 00:37:50,118 --> 00:37:53,043 Crucially, Liverpool also won qualification 719 00:37:53,068 --> 00:37:55,913 to the Champions League for the first time. 720 00:37:55,938 --> 00:37:57,963 After so long without success, 721 00:37:57,988 --> 00:38:00,272 it felt as if the club were back on top, 722 00:38:00,297 --> 00:38:05,093 although their treble was mocked by their rivals down the M62. 723 00:38:05,118 --> 00:38:08,293 We won every competition that we entered in terms of cups, 724 00:38:08,318 --> 00:38:11,013 So, you know, if that's Mickey Mouse, then...| mean, 725 00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:14,373 God knows what everything else is, because I think for us 726 00:38:14,398 --> 00:38:18,163 to achieve that, I think it's quite extraordinary. It really is. 727 00:38:20,348 --> 00:38:22,803 Winning those five trophies with Liverpool, 728 00:38:22,828 --> 00:38:26,843 which was the club of my heart, it's different, yeah. 729 00:38:26,868 --> 00:38:28,732 And when I say the club of my heart, 730 00:38:28,757 --> 00:38:33,293 my heart, you know, practically fail after that! 731 00:38:33,318 --> 00:38:35,203 Come on, now. Come on, Stevie G! 732 00:38:35,228 --> 00:38:40,163 We were really looking forward to the 2001—2002 season. 733 00:38:40,188 --> 00:38:44,323 Let this be the one where we win the league. 734 00:38:47,427 --> 00:38:52,123 I felt ill in the half-time of the game against Leeds. 735 00:38:52,148 --> 00:38:54,843 I don't want to go back out there. I'm sorry. 736 00:38:56,988 --> 00:39:00,093 NEWS REPORT: Gerard Houllier underwent a dissection of the aorta, 737 00:39:00,118 --> 00:39:02,883 the main vessel carrying blood to the heart. 738 00:39:02,908 --> 00:39:05,903 He's now on a ventilator in intensive care. 739 00:39:07,208 --> 00:39:09,803 Puts life into perspective, puts football into perspective. 740 00:39:09,828 --> 00:39:12,402 Obviously our thoughts are very much with Gerard 741 00:39:12,427 --> 00:39:14,883 and particularly with Isabelle at this time, 742 00:39:14,908 --> 00:39:17,683 and we just wish him a very speedy recovery. 743 00:39:17,708 --> 00:39:20,763 As might be expected after an operation 744 00:39:20,788 --> 00:39:22,522 of this nature and complexity, 745 00:39:22,547 --> 00:39:26,293 recovery is inevitably a slow and gradual process. 746 00:39:26,318 --> 00:39:30,293 It almost felt as if the doctors were trying to keep him away, 747 00:39:30,318 --> 00:39:33,293 but he was adamant he wanted to be back and it felt like 748 00:39:33,318 --> 00:39:36,963 he came back in far quicker time than he was supposed to. 749 00:39:49,218 --> 00:39:51,522 I remember that day, 750 00:39:51,547 --> 00:39:53,913 because when I came on the pitch, 751 00:39:53,938 --> 00:39:56,963 Capello was there. When he saw me, he hugged me. 752 00:40:00,038 --> 00:40:03,323 It went through the crowd gradually that I was in the stadium 753 00:40:03,348 --> 00:40:04,763 and I was back. 754 00:40:04,788 --> 00:40:08,482 CHEERING 755 00:40:08,507 --> 00:40:10,482 Special day. Special night. 756 00:40:12,268 --> 00:40:14,803 I think Gerard came back too soon. 757 00:40:14,828 --> 00:40:16,323 And he might disagree. 758 00:40:16,348 --> 00:40:18,402 I don't think he was the same person. 759 00:40:18,427 --> 00:40:20,402 It's easy to have regrets. 760 00:40:20,427 --> 00:40:23,602 All I can say is that I was far too early 761 00:40:23,627 --> 00:40:26,243 and I probably paid it afterwards. 762 00:40:32,627 --> 00:40:34,602 With Houllier back in the hot seat, 763 00:40:34,627 --> 00:40:37,323 Liverpool ended the season in second place — 764 00:40:37,348 --> 00:40:40,123 their highest Premier League finish. 765 00:40:40,148 --> 00:40:42,373 But the team could not reach the same heights 766 00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:44,123 in the following two seasons. 767 00:40:44,148 --> 00:40:46,883 The pressure was mounting on the boss. 768 00:40:46,908 --> 00:40:49,443 If people decide, you know, that I'm not the right man 769 00:40:49,468 --> 00:40:52,553 for the right place, so what? I mean, I'm not important. 770 00:40:52,578 --> 00:40:54,883 I'm not here for myself. I'm here for the club. 771 00:40:54,908 --> 00:40:57,123 We were...hugely... 772 00:40:58,788 --> 00:41:00,443 ...concerned about his health. 773 00:41:00,468 --> 00:41:03,013 We were very concerned that he'd nearly given his life for the club. 774 00:41:03,038 --> 00:41:05,482 So if the club thinks, "Well, Houllier shouldn't stay," 775 00:41:05,507 --> 00:41:09,373 so, I mean, the people in command, in charge, have to decide that. 776 00:41:09,398 --> 00:41:11,843 By then we wanted to be winning. 777 00:41:11,868 --> 00:41:13,443 We wanted to be contenders. 778 00:41:13,468 --> 00:41:16,883 We really needed to be contenders for the title. We weren't. 779 00:41:16,908 --> 00:41:19,683 But as far as I'm concerned, I know where we're going. 780 00:41:19,708 --> 00:41:22,883 I know it's been a rocky year, but we'll get there. 781 00:41:22,908 --> 00:41:27,083 And it was a sad day when we decided that we had to make a change. 782 00:41:28,868 --> 00:41:31,963 I don't know. Maybe my health played a part. 783 00:41:31,988 --> 00:41:35,482 People ask me, you know, "Well, what is your contribution?" 784 00:41:35,507 --> 00:41:37,402 I say my contribution is nothing, 785 00:41:37,427 --> 00:41:40,193 apart from the fact that the team finished fourth 786 00:41:40,218 --> 00:41:42,833 and they were allowed to play Champions League. 787 00:41:42,858 --> 00:41:46,732 I heard and I read that they want to go back to the '60s 788 00:41:46,757 --> 00:41:48,963 and the '70s culture. 789 00:41:48,988 --> 00:41:50,883 Well, fair enough, but not with me. 790 00:42:11,038 --> 00:42:14,522 My first night with my wife in Liverpool was, er... 791 00:42:15,958 --> 00:42:19,713 ...raining cats and dogs or dogs and cats, how you say? 792 00:42:19,738 --> 00:42:21,552 Cats and dogs. 793 00:42:21,577 --> 00:42:24,253 Raining cats and dogs. It was a big storm. And we said, 794 00:42:24,278 --> 00:42:27,383 "Oh, we are coming from Valencia and then we come here. 00f." 795 00:42:29,838 --> 00:42:33,173 Rafa was an exciting appointment for us. 796 00:42:33,198 --> 00:42:37,333 It was very much a case of, the key credential for us 797 00:42:37,358 --> 00:42:41,253 is we need somebody who's won one of the major European leagues. 798 00:42:41,278 --> 00:42:44,023 The former Valencia boss Rafael Benitez 799 00:42:44,048 --> 00:42:48,023 has been the favourite for the job ever since he quit the Spanish club. 800 00:42:48,048 --> 00:42:51,203 Valencia, we didn't have too much money at this time. 801 00:42:51,228 --> 00:42:53,492 We were... I'm not sure how you say in English this. 802 00:42:53,517 --> 00:42:56,303 "Punching above your weight" or something like that. 803 00:42:56,328 --> 00:42:58,693 We chose him rather than Mourinho. 804 00:42:58,718 --> 00:43:01,492 We thought Rafa was much more Liverpool's style. 805 00:43:01,517 --> 00:43:03,943 He had a bit more humility and... 806 00:43:05,228 --> 00:43:06,662 ...was a bit more down—to—earth. 807 00:43:06,687 --> 00:43:12,773 I'm European champion, so I'm not one of...of the bottle. 808 00:43:12,798 --> 00:43:14,612 I think I'm a special one. 809 00:43:17,657 --> 00:43:21,203 Famously, he walks into a bar full of Liverpool fans 810 00:43:21,228 --> 00:43:24,023 and has a drink, and everyone said, you know, "That's great." 811 00:43:24,048 --> 00:43:25,843 You know, man of the people and all that. 812 00:43:25,868 --> 00:43:28,662 Well, he'd gone through the wrong door. 813 00:43:28,687 --> 00:43:30,813 He thought he was going into his hotel. 814 00:43:30,838 --> 00:43:32,612 But once he's there... 815 00:43:32,637 --> 00:43:35,333 "They're all Liverpool fans, I'm not just going to walk out." 816 00:43:35,358 --> 00:43:38,813 So he, almost by accident, got the city 817 00:43:38,838 --> 00:43:41,133 and got a sense of what it was about. 818 00:43:44,457 --> 00:43:46,833 Very quickly, Benitez also learnt 819 00:43:46,858 --> 00:43:49,662 about the internal tensions at the club. 820 00:43:49,687 --> 00:43:51,973 Literally the first day Rafa arrived, 821 00:43:51,998 --> 00:43:54,973 I had to tell him that Steven Gerrard had decided 822 00:43:54,998 --> 00:43:56,482 that he wanted to go. 823 00:43:56,507 --> 00:43:58,973 I haven't been really happy with the progression of the club 824 00:43:58,998 --> 00:44:02,023 over the last two years. For the first time in my career, 825 00:44:02,048 --> 00:44:06,023 I've really thought about the possibility of moving on. 826 00:44:06,048 --> 00:44:09,843 I think during the Euros, Steven pretty much decided 827 00:44:09,868 --> 00:44:12,813 he wanted to go to Chelsea. The mistake Chelsea made was 828 00:44:12,838 --> 00:44:16,862 letting Steven come back to Liverpool after the Euros. 829 00:44:16,887 --> 00:44:19,253 They should have kept him on Abramovich's boat. 830 00:44:19,278 --> 00:44:23,412 After coming home from Euro 2000, sitting down with my family, 831 00:44:23,437 --> 00:44:28,843 I've decided that I'm staying on at Liverpool Football Club. 832 00:44:28,868 --> 00:44:32,612 In the end, what I told him, if you go to another side, 833 00:44:32,637 --> 00:44:35,173 maybe you can win some trophies, but you will be one more. 834 00:44:35,198 --> 00:44:37,973 Here you are Stevie G, the captain, the legend, 835 00:44:37,998 --> 00:44:40,432 and everybody will remember you like that. 836 00:44:42,777 --> 00:44:45,532 Benitez set about changing the direction of the team, 837 00:44:45,557 --> 00:44:48,253 bringing in Spanish playmaker Xabi Alonzo 838 00:44:48,278 --> 00:44:50,583 to create a fabulous midfield duo. 839 00:44:50,608 --> 00:44:54,813 But Chelsea's interest in Gerrard had unsettled Liverpool. 840 00:44:54,838 --> 00:44:58,773 They knew that Mourinho's team were miles ahead in the league. 841 00:44:58,798 --> 00:45:03,843 Everywhere Liverpool looked, it was Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. 842 00:45:06,757 --> 00:45:09,323 We were in the stairs. That feeling... 843 00:45:09,348 --> 00:45:12,963 Was a very nice conversation, because they were winning. 844 00:45:12,988 --> 00:45:14,713 As soon as we start winning, 845 00:45:14,738 --> 00:45:17,473 things were getting worse in terms of the relationship. 846 00:45:17,498 --> 00:45:20,752 But, OK, that is normal when you are competing, 847 00:45:20,777 --> 00:45:23,073 and it's a style everybody knows. 848 00:45:23,098 --> 00:45:24,963 I tried to be more respectful, 849 00:45:24,988 --> 00:45:28,752 but... OK, each one can decide what he prefers. 850 00:45:33,657 --> 00:45:37,632 We had that huge disappointment of the League Cup, 851 00:45:37,657 --> 00:45:40,393 but the irony of playing against Chelsea 852 00:45:40,418 --> 00:45:45,432 and Steven scoring the own goal after everything that had gone on, 853 00:45:45,457 --> 00:45:47,993 but then in the dressing room straight after the game saying, 854 00:45:48,018 --> 00:45:49,913 "| hope we get them in the Champions League," 855 00:45:49,938 --> 00:45:51,273 as indeed we then did. 856 00:45:56,457 --> 00:45:59,043 I think it was so good, the team was so strong that 857 00:45:59,068 --> 00:46:01,833 nobody was expecting that we could go through, 858 00:46:01,858 --> 00:46:05,073 and the Luis Garcia goal, and they said, "Oh, it wasn't a goal," 859 00:46:05,098 --> 00:46:06,913 then could be a red card for Petr Cech 860 00:46:06,938 --> 00:46:08,432 at the beginning of the game. 861 00:46:08,457 --> 00:46:10,682 And I think it was very clear 862 00:46:10,707 --> 00:46:13,073 that it was a goal that we deserved, 863 00:46:13,098 --> 00:46:15,713 because we did what we had to do to score this goal. 864 00:46:19,138 --> 00:46:22,552 You have to give credit to someone like Liverpool at this time — 865 00:46:22,577 --> 00:46:25,193 that, against the best team in the Premier League, 866 00:46:25,218 --> 00:46:27,043 we could do so well 867 00:46:27,068 --> 00:46:29,113 that we could go to the final. 868 00:46:34,738 --> 00:46:36,603 The atmosphere was amazing. 869 00:46:38,068 --> 00:46:40,603 Our fans obviously were there in force, 870 00:46:40,628 --> 00:46:43,963 outnumbering considerably the Milan fans. 871 00:46:43,988 --> 00:46:48,713 If you see the team sheet, AC Milan was so good. 872 00:46:48,738 --> 00:46:52,473 Everybody was so excited, and just to go there and try to 873 00:46:52,498 --> 00:46:56,073 enjoy from the first minute until the last minute if it was possible. 874 00:46:56,098 --> 00:46:58,632 COMMENTATOR: In goes the free kick, and the shot goes in, 875 00:46:58,657 --> 00:47:00,882 and it's there! Milan have scored! 876 00:47:00,907 --> 00:47:03,033 Here's Shevchenko. Shevchenko crosses... 877 00:47:03,058 --> 00:47:04,353 It's 2-0. 878 00:47:05,738 --> 00:47:09,223 I was preparing my speech — in my bad English now — 879 00:47:09,248 --> 00:47:11,143 imagine some years ago, 880 00:47:11,168 --> 00:47:13,783 preparing my speech at half—time, losing 2-0, 881 00:47:13,808 --> 00:47:15,603 and then we concede the third goal. 882 00:47:16,577 --> 00:47:17,993 Kaka. Oh, towards Crespo... 883 00:47:18,018 --> 00:47:20,073 Crespo's doing this. It's going to be 3-0... 884 00:47:20,098 --> 00:47:21,273 And it is 5-0! 885 00:47:22,498 --> 00:47:26,113 Come half—time, people are leaving, people are despairing, 886 00:47:26,138 --> 00:47:29,863 and I'm going, "It's not over till the fat lady sings. 887 00:47:29,888 --> 00:47:31,783 "Come on. It's all right. It'll be..." 888 00:47:31,808 --> 00:47:34,632 But it was almost like it wasn't just me that felt it, 889 00:47:34,657 --> 00:47:38,323 because the crowd started to sing. 890 00:47:38,348 --> 00:47:42,913 # You'll never walk... # 891 00:47:42,938 --> 00:47:45,353 You need to explain something in English 892 00:47:45,378 --> 00:47:47,502 and be sure that you use the right words, 893 00:47:47,527 --> 00:47:49,863 and you keep the motivation if you can. 894 00:47:49,888 --> 00:47:52,073 Another opportunity from Riise... 895 00:47:52,098 --> 00:47:54,783 Header! Yes, a goal from Steven Gerrard! 896 00:47:55,938 --> 00:47:58,073 Never forget Stevie coming out... 897 00:47:58,098 --> 00:47:59,963 His arms are going like this, 898 00:47:59,988 --> 00:48:01,273 getting the crowd up. 899 00:48:01,298 --> 00:48:02,632 Man 25 yards out. 900 00:48:02,657 --> 00:48:04,833 Doesn't shoot, but Smicer by! 901 00:48:04,858 --> 00:48:10,113 All the way from Vladimir Smicer! 902 00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:14,193 And I'm not just saying this, honestly, but I just knew 903 00:48:14,218 --> 00:48:15,963 we were going to win that day. 904 00:48:15,988 --> 00:48:18,273 Alonso...misses! 905 00:48:18,298 --> 00:48:20,353 And Alonso puts in the rebound! 906 00:48:20,378 --> 00:48:23,193 And this scoreline is absolutely staggering. 907 00:48:23,218 --> 00:48:26,552 AC Milan 3, Liverpool 3! 908 00:48:28,418 --> 00:48:33,273 Then we had to go through the most nerve-racking extra time. 909 00:48:33,298 --> 00:48:36,033 Dudek made some fantastic saves. 910 00:48:41,348 --> 00:48:44,502 And when we went to the penalties, I was 100% convinced 911 00:48:44,527 --> 00:48:45,783 that we could win. 912 00:48:45,808 --> 00:48:47,033 Shevchenko... 913 00:48:47,058 --> 00:48:51,502 Dudek saves for Liverpool! 914 00:48:55,378 --> 00:48:58,323 It's as rich to me now as if it had happened yesterday. 915 00:49:04,418 --> 00:49:06,863 And still I have a lot of fans telling me, 916 00:49:06,888 --> 00:49:09,993 "Rafa, that is the best night of my life. 917 00:49:10,018 --> 00:49:11,422 "Don't tell my wife." 918 00:49:11,447 --> 00:49:13,243 So they are telling me that all the time. 919 00:49:13,268 --> 00:49:16,603 Liverpool are champions of Europe! 920 00:49:20,498 --> 00:49:22,073 I was in Istanbul. 921 00:49:22,098 --> 00:49:25,552 I went down to the changing room after the game. 922 00:49:25,577 --> 00:49:26,963 A couple of players saw me. 923 00:49:26,988 --> 00:49:30,502 Normally the players say "hi" and that's it. 924 00:49:30,527 --> 00:49:33,713 But they came to me and practically hugged me. 925 00:49:33,738 --> 00:49:35,193 You know, it was really... 926 00:49:35,218 --> 00:49:37,993 And they said, "Boss, it's your team." 927 00:49:38,018 --> 00:49:40,323 And I must say, Rafa was... 928 00:49:41,378 --> 00:49:46,713 ...outstanding, because he understood that the players had a sort of a... 929 00:49:46,738 --> 00:49:48,862 ...maybe special relationship with me, 930 00:49:48,887 --> 00:49:50,943 and they...you know, we didn't... 931 00:49:50,968 --> 00:49:53,893 I never fell out with the players, so it was all right. 932 00:49:55,528 --> 00:49:58,763 This truly was the miracle of Istanbul. 933 00:49:58,788 --> 00:50:00,693 But one night couldn't hide the fact 934 00:50:00,718 --> 00:50:04,373 that Liverpool weren't set up to compete consistently. 935 00:50:04,398 --> 00:50:06,333 And their rivals knew it. 936 00:50:06,358 --> 00:50:09,373 Over the summer, Chelsea came calling again, 937 00:50:09,398 --> 00:50:12,157 and this time, they were determined to get their man. 938 00:50:13,462 --> 00:50:15,846 We tried everything to talk him round. 939 00:50:15,871 --> 00:50:17,747 The chairman came to see him. 940 00:50:17,772 --> 00:50:20,957 And he had absolutely decided that he was going, 941 00:50:20,982 --> 00:50:22,636 and we announced he was going. 942 00:50:22,661 --> 00:50:25,107 It was ambition. It was restlessness. 943 00:50:25,132 --> 00:50:30,997 It was, oddly, not necessarily feeling he was valued enough. 944 00:50:31,022 --> 00:50:34,567 Fortunately, he came around and signed a deal 945 00:50:34,592 --> 00:50:37,516 and he did say to me, "just do me one favour. 946 00:50:37,541 --> 00:50:39,716 "Don't ever let me do this again." 947 00:50:39,741 --> 00:50:42,437 With Gerrard having put pen to paper, 948 00:50:42,462 --> 00:50:47,536 Liverpool did strengthen the team. But he was restless for a reason. 949 00:50:47,561 --> 00:50:49,780 Despite Liverpool's show of ambition, 950 00:50:49,805 --> 00:50:53,910 the footballing world had moved into a new financial stratosphere. 951 00:50:55,604 --> 00:50:58,369 David Moore was really a good chairman. 952 00:50:58,394 --> 00:51:01,340 I think Rick Parry and him, they were trying to help 953 00:51:01,365 --> 00:51:04,369 and they didn't put us under pressure. 954 00:51:04,394 --> 00:51:07,550 The plan was the same, was in three years' time to compete. 955 00:51:07,575 --> 00:51:10,300 We were already winning. We were in the final of the Carting Cup, 956 00:51:10,325 --> 00:51:13,550 and this year we won the FA Cup also, 957 00:51:13,575 --> 00:51:16,369 and the European Super Cup, so everybody was happy 958 00:51:16,394 --> 00:51:19,829 in the way that the team and the club was progressing. 959 00:51:19,854 --> 00:51:21,420 The only thing is that, economically, 960 00:51:21,445 --> 00:51:23,340 you couldn't compete against the other teams. 961 00:51:27,685 --> 00:51:33,140 David Mo yes had decided in 2004 that he wanted to sell. 962 00:51:33,165 --> 00:51:35,300 He was concerned, I think, 963 00:51:35,325 --> 00:51:39,060 about the resources that Abramovich was bringing to Chelsea. 964 00:51:39,085 --> 00:51:41,470 Interest in the club was high. 965 00:51:41,495 --> 00:51:43,910 Rival offers were received from a consortium 966 00:51:43,935 --> 00:51:45,660 headed by the Shaikh of Dubai 967 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:49,300 and an American businessman called George Gillett. 968 00:51:49,325 --> 00:51:51,550 The club wanted to sell to Dubai, 969 00:51:51,575 --> 00:51:54,910 but a deal took too long to materialise. 970 00:51:54,935 --> 00:51:58,190 Everyone seemed desperate for the club to be bought out. 971 00:51:58,215 --> 00:52:00,420 Be careful what you wish for, 972 00:52:00,445 --> 00:52:04,550 because what we got was absolute chaos. 973 00:52:04,575 --> 00:52:05,660 2007... 974 00:52:06,885 --> 00:52:11,579 ...We ended up with Messrs Hicks and Gillett. 975 00:52:15,394 --> 00:52:18,420 This is truly the largest sport in the world, 976 00:52:18,445 --> 00:52:20,699 the most important sport in the world, and this is 977 00:52:20,724 --> 00:52:23,650 the most important club in the most important sport in the world, 978 00:52:23,675 --> 00:52:26,260 and what a privilege we have to be associated with it, 979 00:52:26,285 --> 00:52:29,470 and we hope that with the good graces of Rick and his team, 980 00:52:29,495 --> 00:52:32,650 that we will be able to enjoy both on—the—pitch success 981 00:52:32,675 --> 00:52:34,260 and economic success. 982 00:52:34,285 --> 00:52:36,449 But we're buying this with no debt on the club. 983 00:52:37,524 --> 00:52:41,499 I think George absolutely wanted success. 984 00:52:41,524 --> 00:52:45,780 I think he got what Liverpool was about. 985 00:52:45,805 --> 00:52:48,340 Tom Hicks I don't think ever got Liverpool. 986 00:52:48,365 --> 00:52:51,140 I remember the week after the deal went through, 987 00:52:51,165 --> 00:52:53,140 he did an interview for The Guardian 988 00:52:53,165 --> 00:52:55,940 saying buying Liverpool is just like buying Weetabix, I think. 989 00:52:57,604 --> 00:52:59,420 Er... No, it definitely isn't. 990 00:52:59,445 --> 00:53:01,650 We are making plans to move forward with the stadium 991 00:53:01,675 --> 00:53:03,010 as quickly as we can. 992 00:53:04,325 --> 00:53:07,010 We need all the revenues we can possibly find 993 00:53:07,035 --> 00:53:08,900 to compete with Manchester. 994 00:53:08,925 --> 00:53:10,650 The beginning was fine, 995 00:53:10,675 --> 00:53:12,900 because I think they promised a lot of things. 996 00:53:12,925 --> 00:53:15,470 Maybe after, I would say, three, four months, 997 00:53:15,495 --> 00:53:17,780 that they lead, you could see that 998 00:53:17,805 --> 00:53:21,220 it was not exactly what you were expecting. 999 00:53:21,245 --> 00:53:25,340 Liverpool faced Milan again in the Champions League final that summer. 1000 00:53:25,365 --> 00:53:27,579 But there was to be no repeat of Istanbul. 1001 00:53:29,365 --> 00:53:31,579 It looked like Hicks and Gillett had cash 1002 00:53:31,604 --> 00:53:33,260 and were prepared to spend it. 1003 00:53:33,285 --> 00:53:37,190 Fernando Torres was brought in for a club record transfer fee. 1004 00:53:37,215 --> 00:53:39,650 Beats Ben Haim... Torres! 1005 00:53:39,675 --> 00:53:41,010 And scores! 1006 00:53:41,035 --> 00:53:44,140 His first goal for Liverpool! 1007 00:53:45,925 --> 00:53:48,369 But despite promises to the contrary, 1008 00:53:48,394 --> 00:53:51,780 they'd borrowed money to fund most of their activity, 1009 00:53:51,805 --> 00:53:56,290 in the form of a bank loan from RBS for over £200 million. 1010 00:53:57,524 --> 00:53:59,090 Not long after arriving, 1011 00:53:59,115 --> 00:54:03,619 we headed into a period where the relationship between Rafa, 1012 00:54:03,644 --> 00:54:06,470 between the fans and between the ownership 1013 00:54:06,495 --> 00:54:08,780 all kind of started to fall apart. 1014 00:54:08,805 --> 00:54:12,369 I had people inside telling me, "Yeah, we don't have the money." 1015 00:54:12,394 --> 00:54:13,749 But after, the same people, 1016 00:54:13,774 --> 00:54:15,900 they were going outside, telling the press, 1017 00:54:15,925 --> 00:54:17,650 "No, we are doing this, we are doing that." 1018 00:54:17,675 --> 00:54:20,940 So then you have to cope with expectations that you wanted 1019 00:54:20,965 --> 00:54:22,220 to compete for the title, 1020 00:54:22,245 --> 00:54:24,540 but at the same time you knew that you couldn't. 1021 00:54:24,565 --> 00:54:26,980 NEWS REPORT: The world stock markets are stampeding, 1022 00:54:27,005 --> 00:54:29,090 and investors are diving for cover. 1023 00:54:29,115 --> 00:54:31,010 TRADERS YELLING 1024 00:54:31,035 --> 00:54:35,260 The financial crash made a bad situation much worse. 1025 00:54:35,285 --> 00:54:39,090 Hicks had lost more money than Gillett, and wanted to sell. 1026 00:54:39,115 --> 00:54:44,080 The pair fell out, and began using everybody in the club as a pawn. 1027 00:54:44,105 --> 00:54:46,880 It was meltdown. It was civil war within the club, 1028 00:54:46,905 --> 00:54:50,080 and it was civil war between Gillett and Hicks. 1029 00:54:50,105 --> 00:54:54,639 Rafa was at odds with Rick Parry, who got sacked by Tom Hicks. 1030 00:54:54,664 --> 00:54:58,030 Rick needs to resign from Liverpool Football Club. 1031 00:54:58,055 --> 00:55:00,849 You certainly have to have the ability to work 1032 00:55:00,874 --> 00:55:02,440 with your general manager, 1033 00:55:02,465 --> 00:55:06,030 and I think Rick's proven he just can't do that. 1034 00:55:08,414 --> 00:55:10,639 He wrote to me saying I'm fired and I kind of wrote back 1035 00:55:10,664 --> 00:55:13,110 and said, "No, I'm not, because you can't do that." 1036 00:55:13,135 --> 00:55:15,440 We're trying to get on with the football, which is why 1037 00:55:15,465 --> 00:55:17,210 I'm still here. There's a job to be done. 1038 00:55:17,235 --> 00:55:19,960 There are big matches to be played. That's where the focus should be. 1039 00:55:19,985 --> 00:55:21,639 This is a sideshow. 1040 00:55:21,664 --> 00:55:24,080 You look at what's happened under Rick's leadership, 1041 00:55:24,105 --> 00:55:25,389 it's been a disaster. 1042 00:55:25,414 --> 00:55:29,080 We've fallen so far behind the other top clubs. 1043 00:55:29,105 --> 00:55:31,490 I think the mistake he made, which... 1044 00:55:32,775 --> 00:55:36,130 ...wasn't very smart with hindsight, he used the word "disaster" 1045 00:55:36,155 --> 00:55:38,030 on the Hillsborough anniversary. 1046 00:55:38,055 --> 00:55:40,130 That was not the wisest word to use. 1047 00:55:42,624 --> 00:55:45,080 Despite the infighting off the pitch, 1048 00:55:45,105 --> 00:55:47,000 on it, Liverpool were flying. 1049 00:55:47,025 --> 00:55:48,639 By the end of 2008, 1050 00:55:48,664 --> 00:55:52,000 they were above Manchester United at the top of the league. 1051 00:55:52,025 --> 00:55:56,310 But the facts were that the tension was getting to everybody. 1052 00:55:56,335 --> 00:55:58,950 People talk about the rant and the interview. 1053 00:55:58,975 --> 00:56:00,880 I'm sure that you will ask me about that. 1054 00:56:00,905 --> 00:56:03,750 What do you make, though, of Sir Alex Ferguson's comments 1055 00:56:03,775 --> 00:56:05,670 when he said Liverpool could choke? 1056 00:56:05,695 --> 00:56:07,130 I was surprised, 1057 00:56:07,155 --> 00:56:09,110 but I have to talk about facts. 1058 00:56:10,624 --> 00:56:13,800 I have my reasons — I can tell you off the record — 1059 00:56:13,825 --> 00:56:16,920 but I knew 100% that I needed to do something. 1060 00:56:16,945 --> 00:56:19,719 Only Mr Ferguson can talk about the future, can talk 1061 00:56:19,744 --> 00:56:22,050 about referees, can talk about all these things, 1062 00:56:22,075 --> 00:56:23,560 and nothing happens. 1063 00:56:23,585 --> 00:56:26,880 If he'd asked me in advance, did I think it was a good idea, 1064 00:56:26,905 --> 00:56:29,560 I think I would've said, "Rafa, I would leave it. 1065 00:56:29,585 --> 00:56:30,920 "| wouldn't do it." 1066 00:56:30,945 --> 00:56:33,240 He's the only manager in the league, 1067 00:56:33,265 --> 00:56:35,800 in the English league that cannot be punished for these things. 1068 00:56:35,825 --> 00:56:38,719 And it was always Alex Ferguson this, and Alex Ferguson that. 1069 00:56:38,744 --> 00:56:41,310 And he just went on and on! 1070 00:56:41,335 --> 00:56:43,310 I am talking about facts. 1071 00:56:43,335 --> 00:56:45,800 I am not talking about my impressions. Things that everybody 1072 00:56:45,825 --> 00:56:48,519 can see every single week. 1073 00:56:48,544 --> 00:56:51,719 And then at the end gave this lovely smile! 1074 00:56:51,744 --> 00:56:55,950 100%, I can tell you, check what I said, and everything 1075 00:56:55,975 --> 00:56:58,639 what I said was spot-on. 1076 00:56:58,664 --> 00:57:02,080 You just imagine this picture of Sir Alex with his feet on his desk 1077 00:57:02,105 --> 00:57:04,389 and having a nice glass of red, thinking, 1078 00:57:04,414 --> 00:57:06,160 "Yeah, nice bit of work, that." 1079 00:57:10,825 --> 00:57:13,280 When we were going to Old Trafford, 1080 00:57:13,305 --> 00:57:16,440 there was a father with his son and they have a banner, 1081 00:57:16,465 --> 00:57:17,849 "Rafa's cracking up." 1082 00:57:18,905 --> 00:57:21,360 And we beat them 1-4, so we were not cracking up. 1083 00:57:21,385 --> 00:57:22,800 We were doing well. 1084 00:57:22,825 --> 00:57:25,920 But Manchester United, they were doing better. 1085 00:57:32,335 --> 00:57:35,750 In a post-fact world, Liverpool were brilliant — 1086 00:57:35,775 --> 00:57:38,200 they lost only one game in the New Year. 1087 00:57:38,225 --> 00:57:40,839 But the actual fact was that Manchester United 1088 00:57:40,864 --> 00:57:43,310 had too many games in hand. 1089 00:57:43,335 --> 00:57:46,200 Liverpool missed out on the title again. 1090 00:57:47,585 --> 00:57:51,589 The good thing — by 2009, at least we were contenders. 1091 00:57:51,614 --> 00:57:56,410 The worst thing of all was getting to January, February and knowing 1092 00:57:56,435 --> 00:57:58,490 you couldn't beat United. That... 1093 00:58:00,265 --> 00:58:02,080 That... That was awful. 1094 00:58:03,905 --> 00:58:06,839 Fans had now had enough of their American owners. 1095 00:58:06,864 --> 00:58:10,280 The huge loan repayments were overshadowing everything. 1096 00:58:10,305 --> 00:58:13,310 Gillett and Hicks put Liverpool up for sale. 1097 00:58:14,864 --> 00:58:17,519 It was chaos. No-one knew what was happening. 1098 00:58:17,544 --> 00:58:20,490 And, of course, RBS keep upping the ante by saying, 1099 00:58:20,515 --> 00:58:22,950 "The club can go bankrupt, the club can go bankrupt." 1100 00:58:22,975 --> 00:58:27,280 I don't think the club was ever in danger of going bankrupt. 1101 00:58:27,305 --> 00:58:31,000 Let's face it, if they would've sold Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard, 1102 00:58:31,025 --> 00:58:33,560 they could've almost balanced the books. 1103 00:58:38,155 --> 00:58:40,880 With the situation deteriorating, Liverpool began 1104 00:58:40,905 --> 00:58:42,880 to lose key personnel. 1105 00:58:42,905 --> 00:58:46,560 Chief executive Rick Parry had had enough and left. 1106 00:58:46,585 --> 00:58:51,360 Now it was time for Benitez to go, by...mutual consent. 1107 00:58:51,385 --> 00:58:53,589 No, I don't think that we need to talk 1108 00:58:53,614 --> 00:58:55,200 about what they promised to me. 1109 00:58:55,225 --> 00:58:57,030 It's just that what they say publicly. 1110 00:58:57,055 --> 00:58:59,519 So you could see the new stadium and all these things 1111 00:58:59,544 --> 00:59:02,560 that they said, and it's very clear that it's over there. 1112 00:59:02,585 --> 00:59:04,560 So you can read the press at this time 1113 00:59:04,585 --> 00:59:05,839 and then you will understand, 1114 00:59:05,864 --> 00:59:07,800 everybody will understand that what they said 1115 00:59:07,825 --> 00:59:09,080 and what they did. 1116 00:59:14,544 --> 00:59:19,310 At that time, the organisation was in freefall. 1117 00:59:19,335 --> 00:59:23,950 Roy came in, probably during that most difficult period for the club. 1118 00:59:23,975 --> 00:59:27,480 In fairness to Roy Hodgson, when he got the job, 1119 00:59:27,505 --> 00:59:29,200 the club was in limbo, 1120 00:59:29,225 --> 00:59:32,950 and I think he was appointed as a safe pair of hands. 1121 00:59:32,975 --> 00:59:34,560 How we looking? 1122 00:59:34,585 --> 00:59:38,560 It's a bit disappointing that, on your first day, it's matters 1123 00:59:38,585 --> 00:59:41,519 of money which take precedence, really, over football matters, 1124 00:59:41,544 --> 00:59:43,920 you know. I took the job because I wanted to be manager 1125 00:59:43,945 --> 00:59:45,920 of Liverpool Football Club. 1126 00:59:47,385 --> 00:59:51,360 Got him at first base, and the Boston Red Sox can finally say it 1127 00:59:51,385 --> 00:59:53,800 they are champions of the world! 1128 00:59:55,385 --> 00:59:58,560 Amidst the chaos came some credibility. 1129 00:59:58,585 --> 01:00:02,030 John Henry's Fenway Sports Group had taken the Boston Red Sox 1130 01:00:02,055 --> 01:00:06,440 to baseball's World Series for the first time in 86 years. 1131 01:00:06,465 --> 01:00:10,160 Now they wanted to extend their franchise to football. 1132 01:00:10,185 --> 01:00:12,839 A fan in the States 1133 01:00:12,864 --> 01:00:16,030 contacted John Henry to suggest 1134 01:00:16,055 --> 01:00:18,519 that the club was an asset 1135 01:00:18,544 --> 01:00:19,880 going on the cheap 1136 01:00:19,905 --> 01:00:23,000 and he should take a look at it. 1137 01:00:23,025 --> 01:00:25,920 There was talk at the time of administration. 1138 01:00:25,945 --> 01:00:28,639 There... There... There... 1139 01:00:28,664 --> 01:00:31,440 There was a lot of concern for this club. 1140 01:00:31,465 --> 01:00:36,440 But from our standpoint, it was a sleeping giant. 1141 01:00:38,025 --> 01:00:39,920 CROWD CHANTS 1142 01:00:39,945 --> 01:00:44,080 FSG made an offer of £300 million for the club. 1143 01:00:44,105 --> 01:00:48,080 The offer was rejected by Gillett and Hicks, who wanted more money. 1144 01:00:48,105 --> 01:00:50,080 Hopefully, I'm hoping the deal goes through. 1145 01:00:50,105 --> 01:00:52,360 They've had enough time now, Hicks and that. 1146 01:00:52,385 --> 01:00:54,440 It's just a joke, what they've done with the club. 1147 01:00:54,465 --> 01:00:57,080 As long as, I think, Gillett and Hicks have gone, I think then it's 1148 01:00:57,105 --> 01:00:58,310 the start of a new era. 1149 01:00:58,335 --> 01:01:01,200 It's pretty understandable, isn't it, that they're going to have one 1150 01:01:01,225 --> 01:01:04,140 last throw of the dice and try and find a way of preserving something. 1151 01:01:04,165 --> 01:01:08,300 One last throw of the dice just to go down, um... 1152 01:01:08,325 --> 01:01:11,580 ...leaving an ever more negative legacy. 1153 01:01:11,605 --> 01:01:15,430 But the Liverpool board could overrule the American duo. 1154 01:01:15,455 --> 01:01:18,609 Now things turned really nasty. 1155 01:01:18,634 --> 01:01:20,460 There's some things I can't talk about, 1156 01:01:20,485 --> 01:01:24,789 but what I would say is that there were some very, very tough clays, 1157 01:01:24,814 --> 01:01:28,500 and not least when we got sued for $1 billion each. 1158 01:01:30,125 --> 01:01:33,690 It ended up, sadly, in the court, which, you know, I don't think 1159 01:01:33,715 --> 01:01:36,970 achieved anything for anyone, and particularly for such a 1160 01:01:36,995 --> 01:01:40,020 longstanding organisation like Liverpool Football Club, 1161 01:01:40,045 --> 01:01:41,460 it was quite sad. 1162 01:01:41,485 --> 01:01:43,739 It's been a bitter and lengthy battle, 1163 01:01:43,764 --> 01:01:47,460 but tonight, Liverpool Football Club is in new hands. 1164 01:01:47,485 --> 01:01:50,539 Tonight, amid jubilant scenes, the Liverpool board 1165 01:01:50,564 --> 01:01:54,789 got what they wanted — a deal with Henry worth £300 million, 1166 01:01:54,814 --> 01:01:57,100 and writing off the club's debts. 1167 01:01:57,125 --> 01:01:59,789 I am proud and humbled. 1168 01:01:59,814 --> 01:02:06,659 We have a lot of work to do, and I can't tell you how happy I am 1169 01:02:06,684 --> 01:02:09,690 that we've finally, finally got to this point. 1170 01:02:14,764 --> 01:02:17,300 I've got john Henry's autograph and a picture of him. 1171 01:02:17,325 --> 01:02:18,659 What did he say to you? 1172 01:02:18,684 --> 01:02:21,789 He said... AMERICAN ACCENT: .."You want to shake hands?" 1173 01:02:21,814 --> 01:02:24,180 After a long period of turmoil, 1174 01:02:24,205 --> 01:02:28,659 FSG were determined to get Liverpool back on track quickly. 1175 01:02:28,684 --> 01:02:31,609 Results under Roy Hodgson had not been good. 1176 01:02:31,634 --> 01:02:35,140 Their first task was to remove him from his duties. 1177 01:02:35,165 --> 01:02:37,539 In his place came a familiar face. 1178 01:02:39,485 --> 01:02:43,690 If there's one person alive today in the history 1179 01:02:43,715 --> 01:02:48,140 of Liverpool Football Club who has the talent and the ability 1180 01:02:48,165 --> 01:02:50,690 and the personality to stop 1181 01:02:50,715 --> 01:02:53,580 that plate spinning and to bring 1182 01:02:53,605 --> 01:02:55,330 everybody back together, 1183 01:02:55,355 --> 01:02:58,460 Kenny, for me, was the obvious choice. 1184 01:02:58,485 --> 01:03:01,739 We were unstable as an organisation, 1185 01:03:01,764 --> 01:03:06,739 and the fact is that, from that day forward, he has been — continues 1186 01:03:06,764 --> 01:03:09,859 to be — someone that the club rallies around. 1187 01:03:11,245 --> 01:03:15,180 I don't think anybody expected him to stay for long. 1188 01:03:15,205 --> 01:03:19,020 I think it was perhaps only a stopgap, but it was just... 1189 01:03:19,045 --> 01:03:22,460 ...because you felt safe. You felt safe with Kenny because his heart 1190 01:03:22,485 --> 01:03:25,970 was where your heart was and so, you know, he was welcome. 1191 01:03:27,455 --> 01:03:30,220 Kenny got the job for the second time. 1192 01:03:30,245 --> 01:03:34,070 It was a good move, because in many ways it appeased the supporters. 1193 01:03:34,095 --> 01:03:35,659 There was a League Cup win 1194 01:03:35,684 --> 01:03:38,460 at Wembley, as well, which is always good. 1195 01:03:40,325 --> 01:03:44,380 After so much difficult and dark clays, 1196 01:03:44,405 --> 01:03:48,859 to be back as Liverpool Football Club, winning a trophy and winning 1197 01:03:48,884 --> 01:03:52,140 it with, you know, with the King in charge — it doesn't get any better, 1198 01:03:52,165 --> 01:03:54,180 to be honest. 1199 01:03:54,205 --> 01:03:57,859 The club had begun to heal, but to return to the success 1200 01:03:57,884 --> 01:04:00,250 of the past, they were going to have to turn their back 1201 01:04:00,275 --> 01:04:03,609 on tradition and rip up the Liverpool rule book. 1202 01:04:04,995 --> 01:04:08,460 I don't think that you can win in any sport 1203 01:04:08,485 --> 01:04:11,300 unless you attack every avenue 1204 01:04:11,325 --> 01:04:14,380 you have, to try to excel. 1205 01:04:14,405 --> 01:04:18,380 I was determined to see whether or not it would be possible 1206 01:04:18,405 --> 01:04:20,779 to use data analysis to help. 1207 01:04:21,995 --> 01:04:25,710 Every aspect of the club went under the microscope. 1208 01:04:25,735 --> 01:04:29,460 From diet, to player improvement, to player purchases — 1209 01:04:29,485 --> 01:04:32,330 no stone was left unanalysed. 1210 01:04:32,355 --> 01:04:35,890 That was about bringing in the right people who started to 1211 01:04:35,915 --> 01:04:41,380 develop our own sort of bespoke analysis and scouting systems, 1212 01:04:41,405 --> 01:04:46,380 and it was more one of not having a single individual 1213 01:04:46,405 --> 01:04:47,890 choosing the players. 1214 01:04:50,485 --> 01:04:54,020 The new way of working also applied to managers. 1215 01:04:54,045 --> 01:04:56,820 It didn't take a data analyst to figure out that league results 1216 01:04:56,845 --> 01:04:58,890 weren't great under Kenny. 1217 01:04:58,915 --> 01:05:02,460 Having unified the club, his time came to an end. 1218 01:05:03,684 --> 01:05:08,580 Kenny gives me a hard time still about that, but... And that's fine. 1219 01:05:09,965 --> 01:05:11,779 It was, of course, results. 1220 01:05:11,804 --> 01:05:16,500 And then I think also the ownership wanted a different, you know, 1221 01:05:16,525 --> 01:05:19,659 a more... Let's call it a more modern coach 1222 01:05:19,684 --> 01:05:21,350 with a more modern view. 1223 01:05:25,195 --> 01:05:28,420 I remember saying on the first day Brendan arrived in Liverpool, 1224 01:05:28,445 --> 01:05:31,609 saying to him... We were waiting to go to do the press conference. 1225 01:05:31,634 --> 01:05:34,500 I remember saying to him, you know, just as somebody who grew up here, 1226 01:05:34,525 --> 01:05:38,380 like, don't underestimate the size of this place. 1227 01:05:38,405 --> 01:05:41,170 You know, it's been 20 years since they've won the title, 1228 01:05:41,195 --> 01:05:44,890 and for sure, and the realism is we might not be ready for the title 1229 01:05:44,915 --> 01:05:48,170 now, but the process begins today 1230 01:05:48,195 --> 01:05:50,020 and it's a new cycle. 1231 01:05:50,045 --> 01:05:53,070 It was such a great learning curve for me, Liverpool. 1232 01:05:53,095 --> 01:05:56,020 You understand the size of Liverpool, 1233 01:05:56,045 --> 01:06:00,420 but you don't really, truly understand until you're there. 1234 01:06:00,445 --> 01:06:03,690 Rodgers may have been a modern manager, but there were early 1235 01:06:03,715 --> 01:06:07,659 tensions over transfer policy, which led to a very public fallout 1236 01:06:07,684 --> 01:06:10,529 between the new coach and the board. 1237 01:06:10,554 --> 01:06:16,170 So this created this...this problem which became one of the most 1238 01:06:16,195 --> 01:06:18,020 common headlines of the era. 1239 01:06:18,045 --> 01:06:20,580 You know, "Rodgers versus the transfer committee." 1240 01:06:20,605 --> 01:06:24,609 And it was interesting, because I don't remember a single time 1241 01:06:24,634 --> 01:06:27,739 in that process where we had a player that we brought 1242 01:06:27,764 --> 01:06:32,300 to the table in those...in those committee or group meetings 1243 01:06:32,325 --> 01:06:35,890 that we didn't all end up agreeing on, mostly. 1244 01:06:35,915 --> 01:06:37,890 Despite a tricky start, 1245 01:06:37,915 --> 01:06:40,460 Rodgers began to mould a great side. 1246 01:06:40,485 --> 01:06:44,300 Steven Gerrard was still there, along with a young Raheem Sterling. 1247 01:06:44,325 --> 01:06:46,859 But the player that spearheaded the Rodgers revolution 1248 01:06:46,884 --> 01:06:49,580 was a controversial, hungry Uruguayan — 1249 01:06:49,605 --> 01:06:51,250 Luis Suarez. 1250 01:06:51,275 --> 01:06:55,330 He was a dream to work with because he had that commitment 1251 01:06:55,355 --> 01:06:59,140 and drive to be the very, very best, and I think, in the two years 1252 01:06:59,165 --> 01:07:01,739 that we worked together, his numbers proved that 1253 01:07:01,764 --> 01:07:03,739 we worked very well together. 1254 01:07:03,764 --> 01:07:09,380 COMMENTATOR: And Suarez's control is absolutely sublime! 1255 01:07:11,085 --> 01:07:13,300 Great to watch. 1256 01:07:13,325 --> 01:07:15,140 Great fun. 1257 01:07:15,165 --> 01:07:19,220 Till he started biting people, and then it all sort of went shipshape! 1258 01:07:19,245 --> 01:07:22,970 Going into the second season, February on, when we were starting 1259 01:07:22,995 --> 01:07:26,220 to get a run, was first v second when we played Arsenal. 1260 01:07:26,245 --> 01:07:28,690 It was just breathtaking football. 1261 01:07:28,715 --> 01:07:31,220 COMMENTATOR: Sturridge in on goal for four! 1262 01:07:33,634 --> 01:07:37,350 I do feel that Brendan Rodgers was almost the start, 1263 01:07:37,375 --> 01:07:41,609 the very start of a consistent mounted challenge 1264 01:07:41,634 --> 01:07:43,799 and a consistently good team. 1265 01:07:46,295 --> 01:07:49,060 In 2014, you've got three games left. 1266 01:07:49,085 --> 01:07:51,529 All you've got to do is stay in front. 1267 01:07:57,045 --> 01:07:58,690 The Chelsea game at home, 1268 01:07:58,715 --> 01:08:00,220 we were so, so close. 1269 01:08:00,245 --> 01:08:02,380 It just felt like inches away. 1270 01:08:03,525 --> 01:08:05,250 COMMENTATOR: Oh, Gerrard slipped. 1271 01:08:05,275 --> 01:08:07,779 Ba on to it. Ba against Mignolet here for Chelsea, 1272 01:08:07,804 --> 01:08:10,529 and Ba scores! Chelsea have the lead! 1273 01:08:12,425 --> 01:08:15,629 Steven Gerrard slipping is not why Liverpool didn't win the league. 1274 01:08:15,654 --> 01:08:18,659 You can't just blame it on that, but of course people loved it, 1275 01:08:18,684 --> 01:08:22,970 that they could turn it on him and use it against him. 1276 01:08:22,995 --> 01:08:27,020 How anyone can mention Steven Gerrard and the first thing 1277 01:08:27,045 --> 01:08:29,970 that comes to your mind is, "Oh yeah, slipping for the title." 1278 01:08:29,995 --> 01:08:33,739 I mean, the things that that lad did for that club 1279 01:08:33,764 --> 01:08:38,100 and, I mean, it just... Honestly, it just does my head in, really. 1280 01:08:39,634 --> 01:08:42,890 It was unfortunate, obviously, what happened to Steven. 1281 01:08:42,915 --> 01:08:46,659 And for me, that was the... That was the defining game, really. 1282 01:08:46,684 --> 01:08:49,300 COMMENTATOR: It's all about forgetting the immediate past. 1283 01:08:49,325 --> 01:08:51,420 For Liverpool there can be no more stumbles. 1284 01:08:51,445 --> 01:08:52,529 They have to win here 1285 01:08:52,554 --> 01:08:54,779 and hope Manchester City slip up. 1286 01:08:54,804 --> 01:08:57,100 Sterling. Suarez! It's three! 1287 01:08:59,445 --> 01:09:01,810 I think we were chasing the goal difference, 1288 01:09:01,835 --> 01:09:06,380 and I made the point at half-time in that game specifically that 1289 01:09:06,405 --> 01:09:09,520 I felt we were taking too much risk in the game. 1290 01:09:09,545 --> 01:09:13,500 Up it goes to Glenn Murray, with the chest on. Here's Gayle! 1291 01:09:13,525 --> 01:09:15,250 It's 3—3! 1292 01:09:15,275 --> 01:09:18,859 It's all gone wrong, the title is disappearing! 1293 01:09:20,764 --> 01:09:22,250 We were great going forward. 1294 01:09:22,275 --> 01:09:25,450 We were just that bit inconsistent defending. 1295 01:09:25,475 --> 01:09:28,100 I've got no doubt, if we'd Virgil van Dijk in our back four 1296 01:09:28,125 --> 01:09:30,989 at that point, we would've won the league. 1297 01:09:31,014 --> 01:09:36,679 In two games, the dream has vanished into an unbelievable nightmare. 1298 01:09:38,855 --> 01:09:41,529 We were genuinely very, very close to doing it. 1299 01:09:41,554 --> 01:09:44,020 But unfortunately, destiny didn't take us there. 1300 01:09:44,045 --> 01:09:47,529 We just couldn't quite get over the line. 1301 01:09:47,554 --> 01:09:51,300 Despite reaching two semifinals the following season, Liverpool 1302 01:09:51,325 --> 01:09:53,739 were well off the pace in the league. 1303 01:09:53,764 --> 01:09:57,330 The club, it seemed, was in transition again. 1304 01:09:57,355 --> 01:10:00,529 We'd obviously lost Luis, who was a talisman, and really 1305 01:10:00,554 --> 01:10:02,330 the team in terms of how we played. 1306 01:10:02,355 --> 01:10:06,970 So we spent two seasons in building a model of intensity and aggression 1307 01:10:06,995 --> 01:10:09,380 and pressing and being creative. 1308 01:10:11,655 --> 01:10:14,940 Without Luis, we never replaced that. 1309 01:10:14,965 --> 01:10:19,739 I don't think there was any huge plan to sack Brendan Rodgers 1310 01:10:19,764 --> 01:10:21,970 when they did. We played Everton, 1311 01:10:21,995 --> 01:10:25,300 and in the press conference, Rodgers said... 1312 01:10:25,325 --> 01:10:27,529 We have to build something here again. 1313 01:10:27,554 --> 01:10:31,609 So it's going to take time, whether that's me or someone else. 1314 01:10:31,634 --> 01:10:34,759 And while he was right, Fenway believed that the players 1315 01:10:34,784 --> 01:10:39,890 that they'd brought in after Suarez were capable of winning the league. 1316 01:10:46,014 --> 01:10:50,140 At the time, we kind of thought... it seemed a little bit strange 1317 01:10:50,165 --> 01:10:53,380 and maybe a little bit harsh, and then you think, 1318 01:10:53,405 --> 01:10:56,020 "Ah, yeah, BUT... 1319 01:10:56,045 --> 01:10:57,609 "..who came in his place?" 1320 01:10:59,745 --> 01:11:01,270 Hello. 1321 01:11:06,804 --> 01:11:11,340 We were on a family holiday Lisbon, if I'm right. 1322 01:11:11,365 --> 01:11:15,060 I got a call from my agent and he told me 1323 01:11:15,085 --> 01:11:17,970 about the interest of Liverpool. 1324 01:11:17,995 --> 01:11:20,500 So we had our plans in that time, 1325 01:11:20,525 --> 01:11:22,989 that moment, looked completely different, actually, 1326 01:11:23,014 --> 01:11:27,450 because we wanted to make more holiday. 1327 01:11:30,115 --> 01:11:32,090 And then I told my family and the boys 1328 01:11:32,115 --> 01:11:34,659 were immediately like, "Yes!" 1329 01:11:34,684 --> 01:11:39,529 And I was looking in Ulla's eyes and she was, "Uh, when?" 1330 01:11:46,754 --> 01:11:50,940 When you make such a big promise, like I did after I left Dortmund 1331 01:11:50,965 --> 01:11:54,300 we will have a year just for us 1332 01:11:54,325 --> 01:11:57,370 and after four months, you come around the corner with different 1333 01:11:57,395 --> 01:11:59,950 plans and you have to ask, at least. 1334 01:12:01,814 --> 01:12:04,900 I remember watching jurgen in Dortmund when I was still 1335 01:12:04,925 --> 01:12:08,590 really a student of the game and thinking, "That's the kind 1336 01:12:08,615 --> 01:12:10,510 "of football we want to play." 1337 01:12:10,535 --> 01:12:13,350 I think they called it "heavy metal football". 1338 01:12:13,375 --> 01:12:16,460 When Mike Gordon called me one day and said, "We're going 1339 01:12:16,485 --> 01:12:20,030 "to have a chance to meet with jurgen in New York," 1340 01:12:20,055 --> 01:12:22,310 to me that was one most exciting phone calls I've got 1341 01:12:22,335 --> 01:12:25,530 during the ten years that we've been with the club. 1342 01:12:27,635 --> 01:12:31,739 We met in New York in some law offices and it was as secretive 1343 01:12:31,764 --> 01:12:33,180 as it could be. 1344 01:12:33,205 --> 01:12:38,869 And for whatever reason, we got away with it, without it making the news. 1345 01:12:38,894 --> 01:12:42,230 I was pretty much on fire from the first second 1346 01:12:42,255 --> 01:12:44,100 they didn't have to convince me, really. 1347 01:12:44,125 --> 01:12:46,390 Well, I'm a totally normal guy. 1348 01:12:46,415 --> 01:12:48,869 I'm the normal one, maybe if you want this. 1349 01:12:48,894 --> 01:12:50,789 LAUGHTER 1350 01:12:52,564 --> 01:12:55,350 jurgen Klopp the manager is a fantastic manager, 1351 01:12:55,375 --> 01:12:58,310 I think one of the best in the world. 1352 01:12:58,335 --> 01:12:59,989 Jurgen is a perfect fit. 1353 01:13:00,014 --> 01:13:03,820 Leadership is a transfer of emotion, 1354 01:13:03,845 --> 01:13:05,789 and he does that well. 1355 01:13:05,814 --> 01:13:09,390 Jurgen Klopp the person is what you see on TV. 1356 01:13:09,415 --> 01:13:13,710 You know, he's a very open, funny, bubbly guy. 1357 01:13:13,735 --> 01:13:16,739 Sometimes he'll go shout about something. 1358 01:13:16,764 --> 01:13:19,260 Even when you're scoring goals, he scream. 1359 01:13:19,285 --> 01:13:21,890 Obviously he's the boss. That's what he shows as well. 1360 01:13:21,915 --> 01:13:25,870 But you can always talk to him and he will be there for you as well. 1361 01:13:25,895 --> 01:13:28,120 I think he gets the Scouse humour, if you like. 1362 01:13:28,145 --> 01:13:29,839 The next one is... 1363 01:13:29,864 --> 01:13:31,509 Givin' it bifters. 1364 01:13:33,455 --> 01:13:36,509 I cannot act, the last thing I can do is act, acting. 1365 01:13:36,534 --> 01:13:39,709 That's why I admire actors so much, because I've no chance. 1366 01:13:39,734 --> 01:13:41,560 SCOUSE ACCENT: Givin' it bifters. 1367 01:13:41,585 --> 01:13:44,589 Anyone who spends any time with Jurgen, however you feel when you go 1368 01:13:44,614 --> 01:13:47,070 into a room, when you come out of it, you feel better. 1369 01:13:47,095 --> 01:13:49,250 I love it. Unless he's shouting at you. 1370 01:13:49,275 --> 01:13:51,709 Despite the smiley demeanour, he can be angry. 1371 01:13:51,734 --> 01:13:53,230 You wouldn't want to mess with him. 1372 01:13:53,255 --> 01:13:56,120 You know, he's always up for the fight. 1373 01:13:56,145 --> 01:13:58,709 MUSIC: The Wizard by Black Sabbath 1374 01:14:01,375 --> 01:14:04,790 If I would see another person doing what I do, I would think, 1375 01:14:04,815 --> 01:14:06,480 "Is he crazy?" 1376 01:14:06,505 --> 01:14:08,200 Well, he's fantastic. 1377 01:14:08,225 --> 01:14:11,639 I think he's like Shanks in another form. 1378 01:14:11,664 --> 01:14:14,430 That relationship that a coach 1379 01:14:14,455 --> 01:14:18,589 has with the fans dates back to the Shankly spirit. 1380 01:14:18,614 --> 01:14:22,120 Infectious. I think if you ask all of the lads, they would say 1381 01:14:22,145 --> 01:14:25,400 the same thing, you know, what he does for us as players, 1382 01:14:25,425 --> 01:14:27,639 as people, is incredible. 1383 01:14:27,664 --> 01:14:29,759 For me, life is completely about relationships. 1384 01:14:29,784 --> 01:14:31,480 I don't want to live alone on a mountain. 1385 01:14:31,505 --> 01:14:34,200 I want to inspire people. I want to be inspired by people. 1386 01:14:34,225 --> 01:14:36,839 I want to love. I want to be loved. 1387 01:14:36,864 --> 01:14:42,320 He's a large man with a large heart and an incredible passion for doing 1388 01:14:42,345 --> 01:14:44,250 things the right way. 1389 01:14:44,275 --> 01:14:49,230 His charisma and his leadership, and actually his way of working 1390 01:14:49,255 --> 01:14:51,560 has been a breath of fresh air. 1391 01:14:52,614 --> 01:14:55,790 The best word I can say that will describe this was "boom!" 1392 01:14:55,815 --> 01:14:57,920 LAUGHTER 1393 01:14:57,945 --> 01:14:59,920 "W00! What was this?" It was really good. 1394 01:15:01,375 --> 01:15:04,040 There was now a real buzz around Liverpool. 1395 01:15:04,065 --> 01:15:07,870 It was just one part of Klopp's master plan to reenergise the club 1396 01:15:07,895 --> 01:15:10,600 and create a proper football culture. 1397 01:15:11,835 --> 01:15:16,480 I think he was trying to create a special atmosphere not only 1398 01:15:16,505 --> 01:15:20,150 within Melwood but within the whole club. 1399 01:15:20,175 --> 01:15:21,839 We played West Brom at home. 1400 01:15:21,864 --> 01:15:25,560 We scraped a 2-2 draw. The end of the game, 1401 01:15:25,585 --> 01:15:27,480 Klopp went onto the pitch, 1402 01:15:27,505 --> 01:15:31,350 he got all the players together and he applauded all the Kop. 1403 01:15:31,375 --> 01:15:33,680 And the next day all the journos are going, 1404 01:15:33,705 --> 01:15:35,509 "Well, what was all that about?" 1405 01:15:35,534 --> 01:15:39,560 He said, "Look, if I cannot convince my supporters, our own supporters, 1406 01:15:39,585 --> 01:15:44,200 "that we can score in the last few minutes of a game, what's the point 1407 01:15:44,225 --> 01:15:46,280 "of being a manager?" 1408 01:15:46,305 --> 01:15:49,920 We could understand it, because he was going on to us every single day 1409 01:15:49,945 --> 01:15:54,320 of what he wanted from our mentality and the never giving up. 1410 01:15:54,345 --> 01:15:57,230 And I feel as though that West Brom game, 1411 01:15:57,255 --> 01:16:00,280 the things that happened within the game, he could see 1412 01:16:00,305 --> 01:16:02,430 that that mentality was starting to change. 1413 01:16:02,455 --> 01:16:05,400 I didn't think about success not about the long—term success, 1414 01:16:05,425 --> 01:16:07,739 winning the trophy, the title, whatever 1415 01:16:07,764 --> 01:16:10,430 but I thought about, "How can we improve the situation?" 1416 01:16:10,455 --> 01:16:13,440 So I had to remind the people maybe that this is a fair business, 1417 01:16:13,465 --> 01:16:17,080 if you want. We give all on the pitch and you have to give all 1418 01:16:17,105 --> 01:16:18,599 in the stands, as well. 1419 01:16:18,624 --> 01:16:22,130 We had a few conversations about that! 1420 01:16:22,155 --> 01:16:25,000 Liverpool were fighting again, the Klopp way — 1421 01:16:25,025 --> 01:16:27,490 high energy, high press“ 1422 01:16:27,515 --> 01:16:29,360 The fans loved it. 1423 01:16:29,385 --> 01:16:31,610 And jurgen loved the fans. 1424 01:16:31,635 --> 01:16:33,690 Klopp epitomises what Scousers like. 1425 01:16:33,715 --> 01:16:37,560 They like the fact that, you know, he shows that emotion 1426 01:16:37,585 --> 01:16:39,150 and he's connected with them. 1427 01:16:39,175 --> 01:16:42,519 Klopp straight away had become a hero to the Liverpool fans, 1428 01:16:42,544 --> 01:16:44,610 especially with his antics on the touchline 1429 01:16:44,635 --> 01:16:45,969 and the way he carries on. 1430 01:16:45,994 --> 01:16:48,490 You know, it's just he's passionate through and through, 1431 01:16:48,515 --> 01:16:50,570 which is what the Liverpool fans are looking for. 1432 01:16:50,595 --> 01:16:52,969 That's why we're up here now, trying to get a glimpse! 1433 01:16:52,994 --> 01:16:55,130 We only come for Klopp. 1434 01:17:01,465 --> 01:17:04,160 I metjurgen in his office at Melwood. 1435 01:17:05,465 --> 01:17:09,290 I hope he doesn't mind me saying this, that his son came 1436 01:17:09,315 --> 01:17:13,610 over and watched a game at Liverpool, went home and told his 1437 01:17:13,635 --> 01:17:17,050 dad, he said, "Oh, my gosh, Dad," he said, "the people of 1438 01:17:17,075 --> 01:17:20,880 "Liverpool, they're amazing, the way they stick together, the support 1439 01:17:20,905 --> 01:17:23,290 "they give the families of Hillsborough." 1440 01:17:23,315 --> 01:17:28,490 And he just said, "That was one of the reasons why I came, 1441 01:17:28,515 --> 01:17:31,290 "because of the people, the way they believe 1442 01:17:31,315 --> 01:17:36,539 "in what I believe in, is fairness, justice." 1443 01:17:36,564 --> 01:17:39,590 And I thought that was really nice of him. 1444 01:17:42,175 --> 01:17:46,710 The families of the 96 had spent years fighting for the truth. 1445 01:17:46,735 --> 01:17:48,710 Inquests and inquiries were held, 1446 01:17:48,735 --> 01:17:52,150 but no sense of justice was felt within the city. 1447 01:17:52,175 --> 01:17:56,100 In 2016, finally, a second inquiry 1448 01:17:56,125 --> 01:17:59,460 returned a conclusion of unlawful killing. 1449 01:17:59,485 --> 01:18:02,659 Your loved ones were unlawfully killed. 1450 01:18:02,684 --> 01:18:05,820 And, no, the fans were not to blame. 1451 01:18:05,845 --> 01:18:08,100 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1452 01:18:11,975 --> 01:18:15,180 This was by no means the end, but it was a result 1453 01:18:15,205 --> 01:18:18,739 that could in some way start to heal the pain. 1454 01:18:21,894 --> 01:18:25,350 On the pitch, Liverpool were now scoring goals for fun... 1455 01:18:25,375 --> 01:18:27,820 Mane! 1456 01:18:27,845 --> 01:18:31,630 ...thanks to a new rock and roll front three. While scoring goals 1457 01:18:31,655 --> 01:18:34,869 wasn't a problem, stopping them still was. 1458 01:18:34,894 --> 01:18:40,630 Liverpool needed an organiser, and they found it in Virgil van Dijk. 1459 01:18:40,655 --> 01:18:43,460 Virgil van Dijk on debut! 1460 01:18:44,535 --> 01:18:48,739 He made an immediate impact and helped take them back to the final 1461 01:18:48,764 --> 01:18:50,510 of the Champions League. 1462 01:18:55,814 --> 01:18:58,820 They got to the final, and that gave them a belief that they could get 1463 01:18:58,845 --> 01:19:01,630 there and compete. But the next thing you've got to do 1464 01:19:01,655 --> 01:19:03,710 is get over the hump and win the trophy. 1465 01:19:03,735 --> 01:19:06,739 Salah's gone down. Yeah. That doesn't look too good. 1466 01:19:06,764 --> 01:19:09,230 He's got a blow in the face, I think. Shoulder? 1467 01:19:09,255 --> 01:19:11,630 I don't know how to describe it, but it's... 1468 01:19:11,655 --> 01:19:12,989 It was so sad for me. 1469 01:19:13,014 --> 01:19:17,180 It's, like, one of my worst time in football. 1470 01:19:17,205 --> 01:19:21,590 Well, he's in tears because of the pain and the agony of knowing 1471 01:19:21,615 --> 01:19:25,270 that he's about to leave the Champions League final. 1472 01:19:25,295 --> 01:19:27,869 I don't know, I don't want to be getting emotional with that, 1473 01:19:27,894 --> 01:19:30,020 but it was really bad. 1474 01:19:30,045 --> 01:19:33,539 Klopp never really thought about goalkeepers 1475 01:19:33,564 --> 01:19:37,510 in his management career, but he come to Liverpool and he inherited 1476 01:19:37,535 --> 01:19:40,989 a problem. So they persisted with Mignolet. Lots of mistakes, 1477 01:19:41,014 --> 01:19:43,869 lots of errors. Then they brought Karius in. 1478 01:19:43,894 --> 01:19:47,510 Ah! Oh! It's in! Thrown out by Karius, and it's in the net! 1479 01:19:47,535 --> 01:19:50,430 A freak goal in the Champions League final. 1480 01:19:50,455 --> 01:19:52,739 He cost them a Champions League. 1481 01:19:52,764 --> 01:19:54,739 Here's Bale shooting from long range. 1482 01:19:54,764 --> 01:19:56,430 What a mistake by Karius. 1483 01:19:57,405 --> 01:20:00,350 At that point, Klopp goes, "Enough is enough. 1484 01:20:00,375 --> 01:20:02,510 "We need a top-class goalkeeper." 1485 01:20:02,535 --> 01:20:04,869 They went and bought Alisson Becker. 1486 01:20:04,894 --> 01:20:06,539 It's so hard to get to that point. 1487 01:20:06,564 --> 01:20:10,710 And then if you can't, you can't win the final match, particularly 1488 01:20:10,735 --> 01:20:14,380 the way I think we lost it, that was hard. 1489 01:20:14,405 --> 01:20:17,430 But I rememberjurgen saying at the time, "We'll be back, 1490 01:20:17,455 --> 01:20:19,020 "we'll be back," 1491 01:20:19,045 --> 01:20:21,590 and damned if we weren't! 1492 01:20:21,615 --> 01:20:24,739 Klopp now had the Premier League in his sights. 1493 01:20:24,764 --> 01:20:28,820 The target was to overcome incumbent champions Manchester City, 1494 01:20:28,845 --> 01:20:30,789 who'd broken the 100—point barrier 1495 01:20:30,814 --> 01:20:32,950 for the first time the previous season. 1496 01:20:32,975 --> 01:20:37,020 What ensued was one of the greatest battles in sporting history. 1497 01:20:37,045 --> 01:20:38,869 Sterling to Sane... 1498 01:20:38,894 --> 01:20:40,539 Sane! 1499 01:20:42,095 --> 01:20:46,869 Liverpool lost just one game all season — but it was against City, 1500 01:20:46,894 --> 01:20:51,300 who went on to win the league by a single point on the final day. 1501 01:20:51,325 --> 01:20:56,100 Manchester City are there. Premier League champions once more! 1502 01:20:57,325 --> 01:21:02,430 To finish the end of the season on 97 points and not win the league — 1503 01:21:02,455 --> 01:21:06,909 in fact, lose it by one point to Manchester City — is incredible. 1504 01:21:06,934 --> 01:21:10,659 Yeah, it was obviously bitterly disappointing. To have such 1505 01:21:10,684 --> 01:21:14,430 an incredible season but just to come up short... 1506 01:21:15,405 --> 01:21:17,869 ...was hard to take. 1507 01:21:17,894 --> 01:21:19,230 I enjoyed every bit of it. 1508 01:21:19,255 --> 01:21:21,940 And I know that after the Wolves game, our last game of the season, 1509 01:21:21,965 --> 01:21:26,350 that I wanted to at least be there again with the same amount 1510 01:21:26,375 --> 01:21:28,460 of points, and win the league. 1511 01:21:31,684 --> 01:21:34,460 Solace did come in the Champions League. 1512 01:21:34,485 --> 01:21:36,460 The big European nights were back, 1513 01:21:36,485 --> 01:21:38,380 and now there was one that topped 1514 01:21:38,405 --> 01:21:42,430 them all. We came into Anfield in the semifinals against Barcelona 1515 01:21:42,455 --> 01:21:44,020 down three to nothing. 1516 01:21:44,045 --> 01:21:48,630 To come back was an extraordinary experience. 1517 01:21:48,655 --> 01:21:51,739 Oh! It's in! Ohhh, he's put it in! 1518 01:21:51,764 --> 01:21:57,020 It's Origi! Liverpool 4 Barcelona O! 1519 01:21:57,045 --> 01:22:00,150 The greatest European comeback ever. 1520 01:22:00,175 --> 01:22:04,070 Well, we all know that magic happens at Anfield. European nights 1521 01:22:04,095 --> 01:22:06,300 are just different at Anfield to any other place. 1522 01:22:06,325 --> 01:22:07,989 Everybody was, like, crazy. 1523 01:22:08,014 --> 01:22:12,360 That's one of the best games maybe in the history of football. 1524 01:22:16,945 --> 01:22:21,050 The final was an all-English affair in Madrid. After the season 1525 01:22:21,075 --> 01:22:23,160 they'd had it was almost unthinkable 1526 01:22:23,185 --> 01:22:26,849 that Liverpool would finish it empty-handed. 1527 01:22:26,874 --> 01:22:29,969 We were having dinner before the game. 1528 01:22:29,994 --> 01:22:33,440 Then I think it was me, Dejan, Bobby, Ali and Virge, 1529 01:22:33,465 --> 01:22:38,800 some big group, and Gini, and we were talking, like, "We cannot lose 1530 01:22:38,825 --> 01:22:41,690 "two finals in a row. It just doesn't work." 1531 01:22:41,715 --> 01:22:44,705 If you lost the Champions League, no-one would remember you, 1532 01:22:44,730 --> 01:22:47,835 because in the end you won nothing. You didn't win the Premier League, 1533 01:22:47,860 --> 01:22:50,906 didn't win the Champions League two years in a row. It was crazy. 1534 01:22:50,931 --> 01:22:53,476 It was too much pressure, to be honest. 1535 01:22:53,501 --> 01:22:55,546 Origi. Left—footed shot. 1536 01:22:55,571 --> 01:22:57,236 He's scored! 1537 01:22:57,261 --> 01:23:01,146 Origi makes it 2-0 to Liverpool. 1538 01:23:01,171 --> 01:23:03,786 I was never more relaxed in a final than in this one — 1539 01:23:03,811 --> 01:23:06,705 OK, maybe because I lost so many, I don't know. 1540 01:23:06,730 --> 01:23:10,625 But it was absolutely great, what the boys did that night. 1541 01:23:11,860 --> 01:23:15,236 It's been a long wait for jurgen Klopp's Liverpool 1542 01:23:15,261 --> 01:23:19,476 to find success, but they've got there in the end, 1543 01:23:19,501 --> 01:23:23,146 and they've got there with the biggest trophy of all. 1544 01:23:28,860 --> 01:23:31,875 To finally get over the line was an amazing feeling. 1545 01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:33,875 Of course, relief was in there, as well. 1546 01:23:33,900 --> 01:23:37,396 But the lads deserved it, you know, and it was a matter of time. 1547 01:23:37,421 --> 01:23:40,396 Y'know, winning the Champions League is a dream come true, 1548 01:23:40,421 --> 01:23:43,476 I think for all of us — for every football player, every young player 1549 01:23:43,501 --> 01:23:47,875 that's, you know, out there. I'll never forget Klopp on the bus 1550 01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:49,476 for the celebrations. 1551 01:23:49,501 --> 01:23:52,266 I thought he was going to throw himself off at some point. 1552 01:23:52,291 --> 01:23:56,476 It was wonderful to see just that sheer happiness. 1553 01:24:00,091 --> 01:24:02,066 The place was jumping, 1554 01:24:02,091 --> 01:24:04,596 but Liverpool stood still. 1555 01:24:04,621 --> 01:24:06,676 They made no signings of note. 1556 01:24:06,701 --> 01:24:10,196 There was a belief and confidence that the squad was good enough 1557 01:24:10,221 --> 01:24:13,625 and consistent enough to end that 30-year wait. 1558 01:24:17,571 --> 01:24:21,266 In the beginning of the season, you want to win it so bad. 1559 01:24:21,291 --> 01:24:24,546 You want to achieve something for the club, which...the main 1560 01:24:24,571 --> 01:24:26,426 target was the Premier League. 1561 01:24:26,451 --> 01:24:30,116 Can Liverpool become the champions of England again? 1562 01:24:30,141 --> 01:24:33,755 Now, that is becoming an age-old question. 1563 01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:34,786 Origi! 1564 01:24:34,811 --> 01:24:36,186 4-0. 1565 01:24:36,211 --> 01:24:38,266 Robertson. Cracker of a cross. 1566 01:24:38,291 --> 01:24:40,875 Brilliant Salah header. 1567 01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:43,516 When you beat Man City, it gives you more confidence, as well, 1568 01:24:43,541 --> 01:24:46,505 that you beat the champion. We've had the odd game or two 1569 01:24:46,530 --> 01:24:49,835 where we've not been brilliant and we're still winning. 1570 01:24:49,860 --> 01:24:54,396 The outcome always seems to be the same. Liverpool win. 1571 01:24:54,421 --> 01:24:57,505 And this machine that was Liverpool was just rolling 1572 01:24:57,530 --> 01:25:00,705 and rolling and rolling. I think by December, the players 1573 01:25:00,730 --> 01:25:03,676 knew that they were going to win the league. 1574 01:25:03,701 --> 01:25:06,755 Trent Alexander—Arnold! It's four! 1575 01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:10,396 I think consistency comes from mentality — when you keep 1576 01:25:10,421 --> 01:25:13,705 winning then there's no reason to change. 1577 01:25:13,730 --> 01:25:16,755 We have a saying, as well, that we use, that we defend together 1578 01:25:16,780 --> 01:25:20,875 and we attack together, and that's the mentality throughout the team. 1579 01:25:20,900 --> 01:25:23,596 They are such a good team at the minute. 1580 01:25:23,621 --> 01:25:25,596 Salah charges towards him... 1581 01:25:25,621 --> 01:25:27,986 ...to score! 1582 01:25:28,011 --> 01:25:31,516 I was excited after the goal, and the celebration from the fans 1583 01:25:31,541 --> 01:25:34,875 was crazy, and it was really special for everybody. 1584 01:25:36,501 --> 01:25:40,236 And then we were, like, all these points ahead, easily. 1585 01:25:41,701 --> 01:25:42,705 And then... 1586 01:25:44,571 --> 01:25:48,625 Coronavirus is the biggest threat this country has faced for decades. 1587 01:25:48,650 --> 01:25:52,316 The virus CAN be passed from human to human. 1588 01:25:52,341 --> 01:25:54,825 You must stay at home. 1589 01:25:54,850 --> 01:25:58,426 Sport has simply never seen anything quite like this. ..event after event 1590 01:25:58,451 --> 01:26:00,676 being cancelled the world over. 1591 01:26:00,701 --> 01:26:04,066 And ultimately, this season has to be simply abandoned. 1592 01:26:04,091 --> 01:26:06,705 People say they're cancelling the league. Some people are saying, 1593 01:26:06,730 --> 01:26:08,396 "You cannot play any more." 1594 01:26:08,421 --> 01:26:12,875 It was stress somehow and everybody maybe started to panic. 1595 01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:16,236 I was home during that time with the family. 1596 01:26:16,261 --> 01:26:20,825 They had that time before, so I was using it to enjoy it. 1597 01:26:20,850 --> 01:26:24,316 Football fans everywhere felt the pain of lockdown. 1598 01:26:25,451 --> 01:26:29,346 But Liverpool's fans and players had the extra anxiety of wondering 1599 01:26:29,371 --> 01:26:33,186 if, after all this time, the title was going to be snatched 1600 01:26:33,211 --> 01:26:36,316 from their grasp. It would have been awful, 1601 01:26:36,341 --> 01:26:39,186 one, to have it void, but it wouldn't have been the same 1602 01:26:39,211 --> 01:26:42,316 if people had just said, "Well, you can have it." 1603 01:26:42,341 --> 01:26:45,906 It was tough, as well, for you to think after that long season 1604 01:26:45,931 --> 01:26:47,516 and after that year 1605 01:26:47,541 --> 01:26:51,476 they're going to cancel the Premier League again. That's bad! 1606 01:27:01,061 --> 01:27:03,346 30 years of turmoil, 1607 01:27:03,371 --> 01:27:06,426 of agony, of underachieving, 1608 01:27:06,451 --> 01:27:11,705 of hope and of desperately wondering when — if ever — 1609 01:27:11,730 --> 01:27:14,426 it was going to happen again. 1610 01:27:14,451 --> 01:27:18,116 Liverpool are almost there. They will be champions 1611 01:27:18,141 --> 01:27:22,516 if Manchester City fail to win at Chelsea tomorrow. 1612 01:27:22,541 --> 01:27:25,705 The manager obviously organised for us to watch it all together, 1613 01:27:25,730 --> 01:27:28,516 which, looking back, was a very good decision. 1614 01:27:32,261 --> 01:27:35,116 In the 90th minute, I was still... I was still watching. 1615 01:27:35,141 --> 01:27:38,266 I just wanted the whistle to go because I'd been so close 1616 01:27:38,291 --> 01:27:41,156 so many times before that you just never know what can happen in 1617 01:27:41,181 --> 01:27:44,516 football. So when that final whistle went and we became champions, 1618 01:27:44,541 --> 01:27:48,516 it was an incredible feeling, and very emotional for all of us. 1619 01:27:49,491 --> 01:27:54,596 Liverpool's 30-year wait comes to an end today. 1620 01:27:54,621 --> 01:27:56,466 Come on! 1621 01:27:56,491 --> 01:27:59,926 To be with the team—mates in that time is something special. 1622 01:27:59,951 --> 01:28:02,775 Liverpool have become the Premier League champions. 1623 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,006 They've won their first English top-flight title since 1990. 1624 01:28:08,471 --> 01:28:11,536 It's strange, of course, because you can't celebrate it with the fans, 1625 01:28:11,561 --> 01:28:14,056 but I think the feeling of looking back and thinking 1626 01:28:14,081 --> 01:28:16,616 what I've achieved in my career so far, 1627 01:28:16,641 --> 01:28:19,696 you know, I think that feeling would probably be the same, 1628 01:28:19,721 --> 01:28:22,645 but the celebration obviously would be totally different. 1629 01:28:22,670 --> 01:28:26,336 I cried a lot that night, which I don't do a lot. 1630 01:28:26,361 --> 01:28:29,056 But, obviously, I realised in that moment how much it meant 1631 01:28:29,081 --> 01:28:33,806 to me, as well, and was big, is big, and will be big forever. 1632 01:28:35,231 --> 01:28:38,895 The Premier League is the most difficult league in the world 1633 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,806 and the most difficult challenge that I've ever faced. 1634 01:28:43,870 --> 01:28:49,536 It's so weird to be lifting the trophy up on 96 points — 1635 01:28:49,561 --> 01:28:52,136 a point for every one of them who died. 1636 01:28:53,111 --> 01:28:56,136 Some things are just meant to be, and I'm sure every single one of 1637 01:28:56,161 --> 01:28:59,176 them were looking over us on that night. 1638 01:28:59,201 --> 01:29:02,416 In this moment — for just a moment — 1639 01:29:02,441 --> 01:29:07,176 all of the emotions that had built up over the years were set free. 1640 01:29:10,951 --> 01:29:14,975 When I come to Liverpool, that was the one trophy I wanted to win. 1641 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,616 To finally do it and be a part of it is an incredible feeling, 1642 01:29:17,641 --> 01:29:19,336 and I'm incredibly proud to be a part 1643 01:29:19,361 --> 01:29:21,895 of this football club and this football team. 1644 01:29:22,951 --> 01:29:27,336 Liverpool Football Club were finally League Champions again — 1645 01:29:27,361 --> 01:29:30,056 a title 30 years in the making. 1646 01:29:30,081 --> 01:29:33,645 I came, but I didn't make a revolution. 1647 01:29:33,670 --> 01:29:37,086 I just wanted to have a sort of evolution. 1648 01:29:41,670 --> 01:29:43,696 It's really a sense of proud 1649 01:29:43,721 --> 01:29:46,486 that you have been part of this massive club. 1650 01:29:50,591 --> 01:29:52,895 30 years. It's been a hell of a long time. 1651 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,616 We went very close, and I only wish that we could have done it, 1652 01:29:55,641 --> 01:29:58,416 but at least they haven't had to wait too long. 1653 01:30:00,441 --> 01:30:04,126 As a story in football, it doesn't come any better than that, does it? 1654 01:30:06,471 --> 01:30:10,366 Liverpool did it, and that's all because of you, and that's why 1655 01:30:10,391 --> 01:30:12,536 we all, together, deserve it this year. 139976

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