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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,208 --> 00:00:10,125 In 2016 we faced an attack of a new kind. 2 00:00:10,875 --> 00:00:12,834 The Russians hacked democracy. 3 00:00:14,250 --> 00:00:15,930 The Russian interference only worked 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,709 because America was a vulnerable target. 5 00:00:19,083 --> 00:00:20,403 In the alleged collusion... 6 00:00:20,542 --> 00:00:23,834 These allegations are just absolutely preposterous. 7 00:00:24,083 --> 00:00:26,750 Of course Russians preferred Trump because Trump said 8 00:00:26,834 --> 00:00:27,914 that he preferred Russians. 9 00:00:44,125 --> 00:00:47,291 The following is a presentation of HBO Sports. 10 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:05,333 - My name is Craig Carton. 11 00:01:05,417 --> 00:01:07,083 I have lived through the most public, 12 00:01:07,166 --> 00:01:10,709 vicious, self-inflicted fall from grace. 13 00:01:10,792 --> 00:01:13,375 I was the cohost of "Boomer and Carton," 14 00:01:13,458 --> 00:01:16,375 one of the most successful sports radio shows in America. 15 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:23,875 I fought my way to the top, 16 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,750 and for ten years, I had the dream job. 17 00:01:27,834 --> 00:01:29,625 But it was never enough. 18 00:01:29,709 --> 00:01:31,458 Never enough to make me happy. 19 00:01:31,542 --> 00:01:33,250 Never enough to chase away the demons 20 00:01:33,333 --> 00:01:35,041 that have haunted me since childhood. 21 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 I had it all. 22 00:01:42,083 --> 00:01:44,583 The career. The beautiful country house. 23 00:01:44,667 --> 00:01:47,250 I made more than $2 million a year. 24 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:49,625 And now, it's all gone. 25 00:01:52,750 --> 00:01:55,250 I've hurt my wife and kids deeply, 26 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:56,518 and I've promised to shield them 27 00:01:56,542 --> 00:01:58,917 from the public spotlight that's on me. 28 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,208 But I am going to tell you my story 29 00:02:01,291 --> 00:02:04,083 of how stupidity, bad decisions, 30 00:02:04,166 --> 00:02:07,583 and a secret addiction cost me everything, 31 00:02:07,667 --> 00:02:10,834 including the one thing I took for granted: 32 00:02:10,917 --> 00:02:13,458 my freedom. 33 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:32,017 - Cross Island Parkway northbound left lanes 34 00:02:32,041 --> 00:02:34,291 locked up with a crash by the Grand Central. 35 00:02:34,375 --> 00:02:36,000 - Offer ends March 29th. 36 00:02:36,083 --> 00:02:37,500 Terms and restrictions... 37 00:02:37,583 --> 00:02:38,810 - With great offers on everything 38 00:02:38,834 --> 00:02:40,583 from airfare to accommoda... 39 00:02:44,917 --> 00:02:47,959 - It's Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton on The FAN. 40 00:02:52,750 --> 00:02:54,333 - Welcome, welcome, welcome. 41 00:02:54,417 --> 00:02:56,709 Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton on The FAN 42 00:02:56,792 --> 00:02:59,000 and, of course, worldwide. 43 00:02:59,083 --> 00:03:01,834 September 4, 2007, 44 00:03:01,917 --> 00:03:04,667 was the very first show for "Boomer and Carton," 45 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:06,542 and ten years later, 46 00:03:06,625 --> 00:03:09,208 it was the number one most listened to morning show 47 00:03:09,291 --> 00:03:10,709 in New York and in America. 48 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:17,291 There you go. 49 00:03:17,375 --> 00:03:18,959 - What am I doing with my life? 50 00:03:22,792 --> 00:03:25,458 - "Boomer and Carton" became a sensation. 51 00:03:25,542 --> 00:03:28,834 Boomer had the big name, but Carton had the skills. 52 00:03:28,917 --> 00:03:30,041 He had that magic. 53 00:03:30,125 --> 00:03:31,875 Now sometimes, he'd go a little too far, 54 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:35,208 but he could really make a show out of nothing. 55 00:03:35,291 --> 00:03:37,709 - We're doing what manly men do. 56 00:03:37,792 --> 00:03:39,291 We're exfoliating. 57 00:03:39,375 --> 00:03:41,041 We have cucumbers on our eyes 58 00:03:41,125 --> 00:03:42,309 and we're picking football games. 59 00:03:42,333 --> 00:03:43,333 Hit it, boys. 60 00:03:43,417 --> 00:03:45,583 - I have never met anybody like him in my life. 61 00:03:45,667 --> 00:03:49,417 He is like a cross between a Martian 62 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,583 and, like, Don Rickles. 63 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:53,417 - So LeBron James being a loser, 64 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:56,667 a big choke-arse, a big donut, a big nothing. 65 00:03:56,750 --> 00:03:59,542 At 6:00, when the music rolled 66 00:03:59,625 --> 00:04:01,500 and the light went on, 67 00:04:01,583 --> 00:04:03,542 something just overcame him, an energy 68 00:04:03,625 --> 00:04:05,542 a passion for what he was doing. 69 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:07,500 - I win. Yes! 70 00:04:07,583 --> 00:04:08,583 Whoo! 71 00:04:11,166 --> 00:04:13,208 Adrienne! 72 00:04:13,291 --> 00:04:15,000 I did it! 73 00:04:15,083 --> 00:04:18,417 - In terms of morning sports hosts, 74 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:21,458 I would put him at the top of the list. 75 00:04:21,542 --> 00:04:23,959 I couldn't even think of a close second. 76 00:04:24,041 --> 00:04:25,726 - Jerry, good morning. How you doing, buddy? 77 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:27,476 - Craig, don't ever lose your sense of humor. 78 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:29,625 - I never will. I've seen myself naked. 79 00:04:29,709 --> 00:04:32,333 - Craig comes from a line of shock jocks. 80 00:04:32,417 --> 00:04:35,125 You know, he's sort of happy to portray himself 81 00:04:35,208 --> 00:04:36,542 as a bit of an asshole. 82 00:04:36,625 --> 00:04:38,959 - He got a reaction, no matter what you thought of him. 83 00:04:39,041 --> 00:04:41,375 You wanted to throw stuff at your radio, 84 00:04:41,458 --> 00:04:43,125 or you wanted to be one of his gang. 85 00:04:43,208 --> 00:04:46,250 - It really was a "love him or hate him" relationship. 86 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:47,810 - If you wanna go into it, let's go into it, 87 00:04:47,834 --> 00:04:49,810 but not today, because I got other people who wanna talk 88 00:04:49,834 --> 00:04:50,750 and you're boring me. 89 00:04:50,834 --> 00:04:51,750 Good-bye. 90 00:04:51,834 --> 00:04:53,184 - I mean, he had the will to do some stuff 91 00:04:53,208 --> 00:04:55,000 that was just outrageous. 92 00:04:55,083 --> 00:04:57,000 I mean, he walked across the Brooklyn Bridge 93 00:04:57,083 --> 00:05:00,000 in a Speedo with a sausage in his pants. 94 00:05:00,083 --> 00:05:01,792 I mean, what are we talking about? 95 00:05:04,875 --> 00:05:06,518 - This business is about ratings and revenue, 96 00:05:06,542 --> 00:05:09,500 and Craig Carton has proven he can get both. 97 00:05:14,875 --> 00:05:17,625 6:03 a.m. 98 00:05:17,709 --> 00:05:19,500 Good morning, everybody! 99 00:05:19,583 --> 00:05:23,583 Boomer Esiason, Craig Carton on The FAN. 100 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:25,458 As you wake up this morning, 101 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:27,959 the New York Jets have been knocked out 102 00:05:28,041 --> 00:05:29,667 of the post season, 103 00:05:29,750 --> 00:05:31,625 but in addition to that, 104 00:05:31,709 --> 00:05:33,917 what else do you need to see 105 00:05:34,041 --> 00:05:37,291 to understand that Mike Woodson can't coach? 106 00:05:37,375 --> 00:05:39,625 On the radio, I'm a big mouth, I'm loud, I'm obnoxious, 107 00:05:39,709 --> 00:05:42,333 it's boisterous, and I'm successful, 108 00:05:42,417 --> 00:05:44,959 and I'm gonna throw that in everyone's face, 109 00:05:45,041 --> 00:05:47,000 because that's the type of show I did. 110 00:05:47,083 --> 00:05:49,667 You have 500 other choices on the radio 111 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:51,041 and guess what you do. 112 00:05:51,125 --> 00:05:52,542 You listen to me. 113 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:55,375 'Cause you can't live without me. 114 00:05:55,458 --> 00:05:58,000 - Craig's on-air personality is an act. 115 00:05:58,083 --> 00:06:02,166 It's a very polished, well-rehearsed act. 116 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:07,792 - He was funny, he was edgy, he was into the show, 117 00:06:07,875 --> 00:06:10,166 but at the end of the day, when the show was off, 118 00:06:10,250 --> 00:06:12,500 he became one of the nicest people 119 00:06:12,583 --> 00:06:14,041 you ever wanna meet. 120 00:06:14,125 --> 00:06:15,893 - There are a lot of different angles to that guy. 121 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:18,208 There's Craig, who is very thoughtful, 122 00:06:18,291 --> 00:06:21,542 very kind, very timid, very shy, 123 00:06:21,625 --> 00:06:22,500 and then there's Carton. 124 00:06:22,583 --> 00:06:23,768 - You have to listen with your ears, 125 00:06:23,792 --> 00:06:25,375 not with your fat face. 126 00:06:25,458 --> 00:06:27,000 - And he's an asshole. 127 00:06:27,083 --> 00:06:29,667 - But off the air, he's kind. 128 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:31,542 He's generous. 129 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:34,041 - He also cared about charities that he worked with. 130 00:06:34,125 --> 00:06:36,000 You know, fire department, police department, 131 00:06:36,083 --> 00:06:38,208 the 9/11 first responders. 132 00:06:38,291 --> 00:06:39,893 - You're the brave men and women that show up, 133 00:06:39,917 --> 00:06:42,041 and we're indebted to you for doing that. 134 00:06:42,125 --> 00:06:44,583 - He has compassion for kids who are misunderstood, 135 00:06:44,667 --> 00:06:46,709 'cause I think that's how he sees himself 136 00:06:46,792 --> 00:06:47,709 when he was growing up. 137 00:06:47,792 --> 00:06:50,166 - When I say "camp," you say "Carton." 138 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:51,375 Carton! 139 00:06:51,458 --> 00:06:55,417 Carton! 140 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:56,542 - I love Craig. 141 00:06:56,625 --> 00:06:59,750 I owe a lot to him for our success on radio. 142 00:06:59,834 --> 00:07:01,083 We were a team. 143 00:07:01,166 --> 00:07:03,250 We had the world by the balls, man. 144 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:04,458 We had built the brand, 145 00:07:04,542 --> 00:07:07,625 and the brand was unbelievably popular, 146 00:07:07,709 --> 00:07:09,458 and he went off the wagon 147 00:07:09,542 --> 00:07:11,417 or however you wanna describe it 148 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:15,250 and just, you know, ruined what we all had. 149 00:07:28,125 --> 00:07:31,125 - July 6, 2019. 150 00:07:31,208 --> 00:07:33,583 Day 20. 151 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:35,792 This is my first month in prison, 152 00:07:35,875 --> 00:07:38,709 and I'm keeping this journal as a part of rehab. 153 00:07:43,208 --> 00:07:44,834 I'm just another prisoner, 154 00:07:44,917 --> 00:07:46,083 and everything I own fits 155 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:49,792 into this 7 foot by 7 foot cubicle. 156 00:07:49,875 --> 00:07:51,792 Lunch is at 10:00 in the morning, 157 00:07:51,875 --> 00:07:54,667 and dinner at 3:00 in the afternoon. 158 00:07:54,750 --> 00:07:58,125 Every meal seems to be served with rice and beans. 159 00:08:01,208 --> 00:08:04,625 One wrong move here and they send you to the hole, 160 00:08:04,709 --> 00:08:08,458 solitary confinement in the big house next door. 161 00:08:08,542 --> 00:08:11,166 Lewisburg is a notorious prison. 162 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:14,500 Jimmy Hoffa and John Gotti did time here. 163 00:08:17,041 --> 00:08:18,667 Ever since I was a kid, 164 00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:21,333 my greatest fear was being sent to prison. 165 00:08:21,417 --> 00:08:23,709 My dad once had me locked in a cell 166 00:08:23,792 --> 00:08:26,375 in our local police station for a couple of minutes. 167 00:08:26,458 --> 00:08:28,500 That was only a prank. 168 00:08:28,583 --> 00:08:30,542 This is all too real. 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,500 From the outside looking in, 170 00:08:48,583 --> 00:08:52,208 we had a very basic, typical, middle-class family. 171 00:08:52,291 --> 00:08:54,333 I had an older brother 172 00:08:54,417 --> 00:08:56,000 and a younger sister. 173 00:08:59,125 --> 00:09:00,542 - My dad's name was Paul. 174 00:09:00,625 --> 00:09:02,208 He was an orthopedic surgeon, 175 00:09:02,291 --> 00:09:04,875 had a very small practice in Yonkers, New York. 176 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:06,375 My mother's name was Bobbi. 177 00:09:06,458 --> 00:09:07,792 She used to be a registered nurse, 178 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:09,417 then became a real estate agent. 179 00:09:13,458 --> 00:09:14,750 I was a good athlete 180 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:16,542 and I had my core group 181 00:09:16,625 --> 00:09:19,041 of, you know, five or six buddies. 182 00:09:19,125 --> 00:09:21,166 You know, we did what normal kids 183 00:09:21,250 --> 00:09:22,709 in the '70s and '80s did. 184 00:09:22,792 --> 00:09:25,250 Play outside as much as possible. 185 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:27,709 We'd play cards on Friday nights. 186 00:09:27,792 --> 00:09:29,375 I got Intellivision. 187 00:09:29,458 --> 00:09:30,834 It was a gaming console 188 00:09:30,917 --> 00:09:33,333 which had blackjack and craps on it. 189 00:09:33,417 --> 00:09:36,583 I turned that into a living room casino, 190 00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:38,792 and that came to an end when a kid's father came 191 00:09:38,875 --> 00:09:41,083 to our front door, knocked on it. 192 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:42,267 He goes, "With all due respect, 193 00:09:42,291 --> 00:09:43,476 "if you just look in your backyard, 194 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:44,750 my son's bike is there." 195 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:46,583 "Why is your son's bike here?" 196 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:49,834 "He lost it to your son in a game of blackjack." 197 00:09:49,917 --> 00:09:53,834 I mean, I was a middle schooler at that time. 198 00:09:53,917 --> 00:09:55,750 Now, I know my parents love me, 199 00:09:55,834 --> 00:09:58,291 but they just never said it. 200 00:09:58,375 --> 00:10:01,917 I didn't think that my voice mattered, 201 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,417 so I was always fighting for approval, 202 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:06,917 and I grew up, 203 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,750 you know, very protective of my emotions. 204 00:10:10,834 --> 00:10:14,750 I was also hiding from some childhood trauma, 205 00:10:14,834 --> 00:10:18,417 demons I had mentally, emotionally, 206 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,667 and that goes back to something 207 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:23,083 I didn't tell anyone about. 208 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:26,625 Something I clearly built up bad coping habits 209 00:10:26,709 --> 00:10:28,792 to get through it. 210 00:10:28,875 --> 00:10:30,792 Living a life of secrets 211 00:10:30,875 --> 00:10:35,333 and lying and protecting myself 212 00:10:35,417 --> 00:10:37,792 really became my salvation 213 00:10:37,875 --> 00:10:40,583 and my life preserver. 214 00:10:40,667 --> 00:10:43,417 And I've been doing it ever since. 215 00:10:49,041 --> 00:10:51,917 When I left home at 18 for college, 216 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,792 I got into Syracuse 217 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:57,208 and was enrolled there in the fall of 1987. 218 00:10:57,291 --> 00:10:59,291 I majored in broadcast journalism. 219 00:10:59,375 --> 00:11:01,184 Good evening and welcome to "Sports Look Tonight." 220 00:11:01,208 --> 00:11:03,166 I'm Craig Carton, and tonight, we'll take a look 221 00:11:03,250 --> 00:11:05,583 at how the Celtics are doing without Bird. 222 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:07,583 I got very little experience, 223 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:11,125 so I immersed myself in being on the radio, 224 00:11:11,208 --> 00:11:12,834 and I fell in love with it. 225 00:11:12,917 --> 00:11:16,166 Radio allowed me to be whoever I wanted to be. 226 00:11:16,250 --> 00:11:19,000 It gave me an outlet to be opinionated, 227 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:22,166 to be boisterous, to be loud, to be confident, 228 00:11:22,250 --> 00:11:24,166 all the things I really wasn't 229 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:26,375 in my interpersonal relationships, 230 00:11:26,458 --> 00:11:28,875 so I basically was able to create 231 00:11:28,959 --> 00:11:31,875 an on-air version of myself that I liked. 232 00:11:39,709 --> 00:11:41,000 When you turned on a microphone 233 00:11:41,083 --> 00:11:43,834 in front of my mouth, I could just do it, 234 00:11:43,917 --> 00:11:44,917 and that's what I did. 235 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:46,959 - WGR with Craig Carton. 236 00:11:47,041 --> 00:11:48,500 - Yeah! 237 00:11:48,583 --> 00:11:49,834 The weekend is back. 238 00:11:49,917 --> 00:11:51,709 Here on 3WE. 239 00:11:51,792 --> 00:11:53,226 A little bit less than a half hour to go. 240 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:55,500 "Sportsline" and you till 7:00. 241 00:11:55,583 --> 00:11:57,709 Craig Carton... 242 00:11:57,792 --> 00:11:59,667 Sports radio, 610 WIP. 243 00:11:59,750 --> 00:12:01,430 Well, a lot of stuff going on this morning. 244 00:12:02,458 --> 00:12:03,559 It's a radio station in Denver. 245 00:12:03,583 --> 00:12:04,500 You're on the air. 246 00:12:04,583 --> 00:12:06,041 We're doing a search for Busch 247 00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:07,667 and we're wondering if you have Busch. 248 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:08,875 Is this a joke? both: No. 249 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:10,875 - We're doing a search for Busch. 250 00:12:12,750 --> 00:12:14,709 It's called a radio show. 251 00:12:14,792 --> 00:12:16,917 I always viewed it as that. It's a show. 252 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,500 So I'm putting on a performance. 253 00:12:18,583 --> 00:12:20,000 Doesn't get any weaker than that. 254 00:12:20,083 --> 00:12:21,667 Lethargic. Pathetic. 255 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:24,041 I mean, if I had a thesaurus, I'd give you ten other words 256 00:12:24,125 --> 00:12:26,500 to describe how the Cavs played yesterday. 257 00:12:26,583 --> 00:12:29,709 I wanted to be the guy that had the balls to say 258 00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:33,083 what most people are thinking without fear of retribution. 259 00:12:35,709 --> 00:12:38,083 - He's shown in every market that he's been in 260 00:12:38,166 --> 00:12:41,417 that he gets ratings, that he pushes buttons, 261 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:43,250 he creates headlines. 262 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:44,417 For an audience, 263 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:46,125 if they love him or they hate him, 264 00:12:46,208 --> 00:12:47,291 they can't resist him. 265 00:12:47,375 --> 00:12:49,125 - Is this a picture of your daughter? 266 00:12:50,166 --> 00:12:52,083 This is not an attractive daughter. 267 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:53,417 I got an email one day 268 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:56,625 that the morning show at WNEW in New York, 269 00:12:56,709 --> 00:12:59,083 they had just fired one of the hosts, 270 00:12:59,166 --> 00:13:01,458 and they hired me off of two demo shows. 271 00:13:01,542 --> 00:13:04,917 The "Sports Guys," WNEW, here in New York City. 272 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,709 I was now the morning man in the city I grew up in. 273 00:13:08,792 --> 00:13:11,083 Sid Rosenberg was the cohost. 274 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:13,166 - We became very friendly very, very quickly, 275 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:16,917 and he was really okay being that second guy, right? 276 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,458 "I just got here. You've been here, Sid. 277 00:13:19,542 --> 00:13:22,041 You're the host of the show. You're the guy." 278 00:13:22,125 --> 00:13:24,000 - Hey, I got a new tagline for you. 279 00:13:24,083 --> 00:13:26,834 "One sports guru, one sports idiot." 280 00:13:26,917 --> 00:13:29,291 - Why would you refer to Sid as a sports idiot? 281 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:30,893 - No, it's not... Craig. It's not Sidney. 282 00:13:30,917 --> 00:13:31,834 - Oh. - It's Craig. 283 00:13:31,917 --> 00:13:32,935 Craig, come on. 284 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:34,458 You gotta get off the horse. 285 00:13:34,542 --> 00:13:36,458 - He agreed to be that second wheel 286 00:13:36,542 --> 00:13:38,458 until one Monday morning 287 00:13:38,542 --> 00:13:42,125 when I saw Craig sitting in the host's chair. 288 00:13:42,208 --> 00:13:43,458 He was the better talent. 289 00:13:43,542 --> 00:13:44,917 He should've been in that chair. 290 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,518 But when you come up a month or two before 291 00:13:46,542 --> 00:13:47,917 with your tail between your legs 292 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,625 and your balls basically in your mouth, 293 00:13:49,709 --> 00:13:51,750 thankful to God you got this job, 294 00:13:51,834 --> 00:13:54,125 you don't sit in the host's chair. 295 00:13:54,208 --> 00:13:56,709 So needless to say, that Monday morning 296 00:13:56,792 --> 00:13:57,917 was the very beginning 297 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,041 of what turned out to be many, many years 298 00:14:00,125 --> 00:14:01,500 of a hateful relationship. 299 00:14:04,750 --> 00:14:07,000 - In December of 2001, they said, 300 00:14:07,083 --> 00:14:09,542 "Well, you're not being fired, but you're not being renewed." 301 00:14:09,625 --> 00:14:12,208 So I walked into a last place show 302 00:14:12,291 --> 00:14:16,000 and left... I'm pretty sure it was a last place show. 303 00:14:16,083 --> 00:14:18,417 And in May of 2002, 304 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:20,125 I started doing the afternoon show 305 00:14:20,208 --> 00:14:21,125 in New Jersey. 306 00:14:21,208 --> 00:14:22,667 2:34, "Jersey Guys." 307 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:24,333 Craig Carton and Ray Rossi. 308 00:14:24,417 --> 00:14:26,125 - He was one of the Jersey Guys 309 00:14:26,208 --> 00:14:28,500 on New Jersey 101.5. 310 00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:30,959 Craig was one of the afternoon drive guys, 311 00:14:31,041 --> 00:14:33,458 and I was the United States Attorney at the time, 312 00:14:33,542 --> 00:14:37,375 and that's how we first met and we became friends. 313 00:14:37,458 --> 00:14:40,041 - I got in a lot of trouble publicly, 314 00:14:40,125 --> 00:14:41,875 but I always viewed that as a good thing. 315 00:14:41,959 --> 00:14:43,239 Instead of saying West Virginia, 316 00:14:43,291 --> 00:14:44,434 you know what they put on the screen 317 00:14:44,458 --> 00:14:45,542 on ESPN last night? 318 00:14:45,625 --> 00:14:46,875 What? - West Virgina. 319 00:14:48,625 --> 00:14:49,709 Very quickly became 320 00:14:49,792 --> 00:14:52,667 the most listened to afternoon show in America. 321 00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:54,709 - I had the best seat in the house. 322 00:14:54,792 --> 00:14:57,667 I was sitting back ringside watching it all happen. 323 00:14:57,750 --> 00:15:00,041 He got to pull back a lot of the curtain on things 324 00:15:00,125 --> 00:15:01,667 because he wasn't afraid to expose you. 325 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:03,500 He wasn't afraid to call people out. 326 00:15:03,583 --> 00:15:04,875 - The real question was gonna be, 327 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:08,041 would his outrageousness on-air, 328 00:15:08,125 --> 00:15:10,917 would that prevent a bigger broadcaster 329 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,750 from being willing to take a chance on him? 330 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,417 - And I'm sitting there one day 331 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:22,625 and Don Imus utters the words, "nappy-headed hos." 332 00:15:22,709 --> 00:15:24,375 Those words changed my life. 333 00:15:24,458 --> 00:15:25,917 - Some rough girls from Rutgers. 334 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,709 Man, they got tattoos and... 335 00:15:27,792 --> 00:15:29,375 That's some nappy-headed hos there, 336 00:15:29,458 --> 00:15:31,125 I'm gonna tell you that now. 337 00:15:31,208 --> 00:15:34,750 - Don Imus got suspended and then fired for what he said 338 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,709 about the Rutgers women's basketball team. 339 00:15:37,792 --> 00:15:40,417 - "Imus in the Morning" had been a legendary show 340 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:43,792 and really had helped create what became WFAN, 341 00:15:43,875 --> 00:15:46,250 the most important sports talk show station 342 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:47,417 in the country. 343 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:49,917 - The FAN, Sports Radio 66. 344 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,208 - When Imus was removed from the air, 345 00:15:52,291 --> 00:15:54,875 it was a giant blow. 346 00:15:54,959 --> 00:15:55,959 It was ratings, 347 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,083 but even more so, it was revenue. 348 00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:02,417 - Everyone well-known Tom, Dick, and Harry wanted the job 349 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:03,583 'cause, you know, 350 00:16:03,667 --> 00:16:05,333 it's the single best platform in radio. 351 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:10,792 - I tried Jim Cramer, I tried Lou Dobbs, 352 00:16:10,875 --> 00:16:14,834 I tried Joe Scarborough, I tried the McEnroe brothers, 353 00:16:14,917 --> 00:16:20,125 I teamed up Boomer Esiason with Monica Crowley. 354 00:16:20,208 --> 00:16:22,083 Thought the show was a little too political. 355 00:16:22,166 --> 00:16:25,667 I said, "I don't think that's the direction we wanna go." 356 00:16:25,750 --> 00:16:27,500 - I got a phone call, 357 00:16:27,583 --> 00:16:28,851 and they asked if I'd be interested 358 00:16:28,875 --> 00:16:31,291 in doing the morning show at WFAN. 359 00:16:35,083 --> 00:16:38,083 - Craig and I talked a lot about the really short leash 360 00:16:38,166 --> 00:16:40,792 that his contract was putting him on, 361 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,333 and if he did anything 362 00:16:42,417 --> 00:16:45,291 that they found to be objectionable, distasteful, 363 00:16:45,375 --> 00:16:47,015 that they could terminate him immediately, 364 00:16:47,083 --> 00:16:49,017 and I said to him, "I think that's the only contract 365 00:16:49,041 --> 00:16:50,834 "you're gonna get to sign. 366 00:16:50,917 --> 00:16:54,834 So I'd sign it if I were you and behave yourself." 367 00:16:54,917 --> 00:16:56,101 - They wanted me to have a cohost, 368 00:16:56,125 --> 00:16:58,166 and I said, "Who's the cohost gonna be?" 369 00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:01,125 And they said, "New Yorkers love him. 370 00:17:01,208 --> 00:17:04,041 "He was a quarterback, he's blond, 371 00:17:04,125 --> 00:17:05,834 and he played in New York." 372 00:17:05,917 --> 00:17:08,208 And I said, "Great. Phil Simms. 373 00:17:08,291 --> 00:17:09,542 He'll be a great partner." 374 00:17:09,625 --> 00:17:12,291 And they said, "No, this one didn't win the Super Bowl." 375 00:17:12,375 --> 00:17:13,393 And I've always made the joke, 376 00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:15,333 I was like, "Shit, it's Boomer?" 377 00:17:15,417 --> 00:17:16,601 - Well, I mentioned it to Boomer, 378 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:18,601 and he didn't wanna have anything to do with Craig. 379 00:17:18,625 --> 00:17:21,375 I said, "Boomer, he's really talented 380 00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:23,291 "and, you know, it might be a good mix. 381 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:26,333 It's worth a shot." 382 00:17:26,417 --> 00:17:28,417 - We met at the Brooklyn Diner. 383 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:30,500 Kay, we had never met before, and he said... 384 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:32,750 - "Let it rip and let's see what happens." 385 00:17:32,834 --> 00:17:34,375 6:06 on The FAN. 386 00:17:34,458 --> 00:17:36,583 Good morning and welcome to the first ever edition 387 00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:38,041 of the "Boomer and Carton" show. 388 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:39,417 Boomer Esiason, Craig Carton. 389 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:40,834 Good morning, Boomer, buddy boy. 390 00:17:40,917 --> 00:17:41,834 How are you today? 391 00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:43,417 - I'm wide awake this morning, Craig. 392 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:45,184 It's good to see you. It's great to work with you. 393 00:17:45,208 --> 00:17:47,250 - When they brought in "Boomer and Carton," 394 00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:49,542 they didn't know that they'd be able to replace Imus, 395 00:17:49,625 --> 00:17:51,417 and they made it a number one hit. 396 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:52,768 - You know what's happening right now? 397 00:17:52,792 --> 00:17:54,542 Every guy that listens to this show, 398 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:56,875 all 3.7 million of 'em, right? 399 00:17:56,959 --> 00:17:59,000 - Boomer's sports knowledge was great, 400 00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:00,834 and I knew Craig was an entertainer. 401 00:18:00,917 --> 00:18:02,601 No one gave them a prayer, 402 00:18:02,625 --> 00:18:04,583 but here, 3 1/2 years later, 403 00:18:04,667 --> 00:18:06,625 they dominate the radio landscape 404 00:18:06,709 --> 00:18:08,250 with booger jokes. 405 00:18:08,333 --> 00:18:10,750 - He was able to articulate 406 00:18:10,834 --> 00:18:14,750 just absolutely crazy opinions with a straight face. 407 00:18:14,834 --> 00:18:15,875 - Dwarves. 408 00:18:15,959 --> 00:18:17,309 That's my answer. - That's your answer. 409 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:19,542 - You bring out... You give every dwarf 410 00:18:19,625 --> 00:18:20,750 in the tristate area... 411 00:18:20,834 --> 00:18:22,518 - A free ticket. - A free ticket to the game. 412 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:25,625 - The only time that I even was concerned, 413 00:18:25,709 --> 00:18:28,083 they would sometimes make what they call fart jokes. 414 00:18:28,166 --> 00:18:30,709 That's right. I had gas. 415 00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:34,625 - They don't need five minutes of gas noises. 416 00:18:34,709 --> 00:18:36,834 - And the TV aspect of it, 417 00:18:36,917 --> 00:18:41,250 by being on CBS Sports Network and also on MSG Network, 418 00:18:41,333 --> 00:18:42,750 that just gave it a bigger feel. 419 00:18:47,041 --> 00:18:49,041 - The thing I did very well 420 00:18:49,125 --> 00:18:51,291 was create compelling content 421 00:18:51,375 --> 00:18:54,291 where the listeners, even if they didn't like me, 422 00:18:54,375 --> 00:18:56,834 didn't wanna miss what I was gonna say next. 423 00:18:56,917 --> 00:18:59,083 - Oh, my God. 424 00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:01,792 - I wanna make love to Mark Sanchez 425 00:19:01,875 --> 00:19:03,959 while Rex Ryan tickles my feet. 426 00:19:04,041 --> 00:19:06,291 - He was the crazy, zany radio guy 427 00:19:06,375 --> 00:19:08,291 that had ludicrous ideas, 428 00:19:08,375 --> 00:19:10,291 and then you had the common sense athlete 429 00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,583 that would be like, "Look at this idiot." 430 00:19:12,667 --> 00:19:14,375 - So I'm just gonna put 'em in. - Hey. 431 00:19:14,458 --> 00:19:15,667 - Okay, now I want you to take 432 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:16,851 an M&M out of the cup and eat it. 433 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:18,309 - You know what, Gary Bettman right now... 434 00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:19,726 - Loves me. - Is just absolutely sweating. 435 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:20,959 - Do you want me to eat it? 436 00:19:21,041 --> 00:19:22,166 - He knew what he was doing. 437 00:19:22,250 --> 00:19:23,625 He was the fire starter, 438 00:19:23,709 --> 00:19:25,583 and I knew that I had to be the older brother, 439 00:19:25,667 --> 00:19:26,834 I had to be the mature one, 440 00:19:26,917 --> 00:19:28,166 I had to play off of him. 441 00:19:31,583 --> 00:19:33,226 - I mean, we can't all, you know, tuck our shirts in 442 00:19:33,250 --> 00:19:35,041 and pull our jeans up to our nipples, Boomer. 443 00:19:35,125 --> 00:19:38,333 I mean, some of us actually like to be casual and relaxed. 444 00:19:38,417 --> 00:19:41,333 - Although Boomer was the true quarterback, 445 00:19:41,417 --> 00:19:43,208 Craig was the radio quarterback. 446 00:19:43,291 --> 00:19:44,643 - I have a lot to say today. I just started. 447 00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:46,226 I wanted to get to you quickly. - Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 448 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:47,850 Yeah, you had a lot to say last week too. 449 00:19:47,917 --> 00:19:48,834 - Yeah, I did. 450 00:19:48,917 --> 00:19:50,059 - You have to be thought-provoking 451 00:19:50,083 --> 00:19:52,959 and entertaining and nasty and nice. 452 00:19:53,041 --> 00:19:54,375 You have to evoke emotion. 453 00:19:55,875 --> 00:19:58,208 Just so... I gotta tell you, the Yankees are great. 454 00:19:58,291 --> 00:20:00,458 - And you can't teach it. 455 00:20:00,542 --> 00:20:01,792 Craig's got it. 456 00:20:01,875 --> 00:20:03,208 - Right, so zip your lip. 457 00:20:03,291 --> 00:20:05,750 I mean, you decided to get a job in TV, 458 00:20:05,834 --> 00:20:07,017 and you ain't that attractive. 459 00:20:07,041 --> 00:20:08,351 - There's almost something Trumpian 460 00:20:08,375 --> 00:20:12,417 about his nose for what will work on TV, 461 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:13,667 what will work for a crowd. 462 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:14,750 Bang! - One more. 463 00:20:14,834 --> 00:20:16,041 Bam! Bam! 464 00:20:16,125 --> 00:20:17,559 - One more, one more, one more. - Nice! 465 00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,917 - He clearly had this great knack 466 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,709 for radio performance. 467 00:20:21,792 --> 00:20:22,875 - We will play the audio 468 00:20:22,959 --> 00:20:24,583 of the foot fetish video for you... 469 00:20:24,667 --> 00:20:26,875 - Why? - At 7:10 this morning. 470 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:29,166 - Why? - 'Cause it's what we do. 471 00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:32,041 What made "Boomer and Carton" special was 472 00:20:32,125 --> 00:20:34,583 the thing that came most natural to us, 473 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:37,000 and that was our on-air relationship. 474 00:20:37,083 --> 00:20:39,208 - Went out and framed your article 475 00:20:39,291 --> 00:20:40,571 that was in "The New York Times." 476 00:20:40,625 --> 00:20:42,250 - That's a nice frame you did there. 477 00:20:42,333 --> 00:20:43,434 "What were you doing when I was playing 478 00:20:43,458 --> 00:20:44,498 "in the Super Bowl, Craig? 479 00:20:44,542 --> 00:20:46,709 You were inside, probably playing Intellivision." 480 00:20:46,792 --> 00:20:48,834 - As goofy as you are on the radio 481 00:20:48,917 --> 00:20:51,667 is as good a dad as you are at home. 482 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:53,625 - Well, thanks. - You are a tremendous father. 483 00:20:53,709 --> 00:20:55,625 - It got better and better from year to year. 484 00:20:55,709 --> 00:20:58,458 The closer they became, the better the show became. 485 00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:01,959 J! E! T! S! 486 00:21:02,041 --> 00:21:04,458 Jets! Jets! Jets! 487 00:21:04,542 --> 00:21:06,959 - He made Boomer laugh a lot more. 488 00:21:07,041 --> 00:21:08,226 Boomer would sometimes sit there 489 00:21:08,250 --> 00:21:09,875 with his arms folded like this 490 00:21:09,959 --> 00:21:11,959 just listening to what Craig had to say 491 00:21:12,041 --> 00:21:13,041 and belly laughing. 492 00:21:13,125 --> 00:21:14,709 - Your name is Punto! 493 00:21:17,542 --> 00:21:19,542 Boomer's wearing the Pajamagram hoodie footies 494 00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:21,083 and really getting into it. 495 00:21:23,291 --> 00:21:24,917 Let me see what you got here. 496 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,250 Oh, yes. - 497 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:29,458 - I've seen guys that are famous 498 00:21:29,542 --> 00:21:31,750 from something other than radio come into radio 499 00:21:31,834 --> 00:21:34,375 and they don't really like you busting their balls. 500 00:21:34,458 --> 00:21:35,959 - I have procured... 501 00:21:36,041 --> 00:21:38,917 - Boomer was okay being made fun of. 502 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,351 - That's a handsome guy right there. 503 00:21:40,375 --> 00:21:43,625 - The oil painting of Boomer Esiason 504 00:21:43,709 --> 00:21:46,041 that he does keep in his home. 505 00:21:46,125 --> 00:21:47,291 How 'bout that? 506 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:50,625 My greatest gift to him was humanizing him. 507 00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,291 I made Boomer Esiason a real person 508 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,542 with a family and a dog, 509 00:21:55,625 --> 00:21:59,125 put his pants on the way we put our pants on. 510 00:21:59,208 --> 00:22:02,291 And the greatest gift he gave me was, 511 00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:06,166 he bought into my vision 512 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:08,333 of what would make the show successful. 513 00:22:08,417 --> 00:22:11,250 It's surreal that I'm the guy on the morning drive show 514 00:22:11,333 --> 00:22:13,458 that Imus held for all those years successfully, 515 00:22:13,542 --> 00:22:15,542 and we get to do that every single day. 516 00:22:15,625 --> 00:22:17,667 They overpay me, unless they're here, 517 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:19,083 and then you underpay me greatly. 518 00:22:20,125 --> 00:22:22,333 I wanted to prove everybody wrong 519 00:22:22,417 --> 00:22:24,083 that said I wasn't good enough 520 00:22:24,166 --> 00:22:27,667 to be major market successful. 521 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:32,208 You know, the vindictiveness of proving people wrong, 522 00:22:32,291 --> 00:22:35,458 to this day, is very important to me. 523 00:22:35,542 --> 00:22:39,166 It's a driving force of my life. 524 00:22:43,792 --> 00:22:45,208 Day 68. 525 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:51,792 One guy here says he's a member of the mafia. 526 00:22:51,875 --> 00:22:55,250 He tries to talk tough and use Italian phrases. 527 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:57,375 One guy here really is mafia 528 00:22:57,458 --> 00:23:00,375 and made a call to check him out. 529 00:23:00,458 --> 00:23:02,917 Turns out the guy is full of shit. 530 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,500 So he's been given the unforgettable nickname 531 00:23:05,583 --> 00:23:09,041 Phony Soprano. 532 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:12,792 Not long ago, I arranged a huge charity softball game 533 00:23:12,875 --> 00:23:13,875 at Yankee Stadium. 534 00:23:13,917 --> 00:23:15,309 - Carton might try to go all the way. 535 00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:16,417 - Come on home! - Let's see. 536 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,208 - Now, I've been drafted by the Yankees 537 00:23:19,291 --> 00:23:21,458 in the prison softball league. 538 00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:24,375 There's trash talk, and guys get into beefs. 539 00:23:24,458 --> 00:23:26,667 It's all pride and ego. 540 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:28,041 So I say nothing. 541 00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:33,709 I feel like life's passing me by 542 00:23:33,792 --> 00:23:35,709 while I sit here. 543 00:23:35,792 --> 00:23:38,041 I wanna scream and explode. 544 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:40,625 Every day feels like a marathon. 545 00:23:40,709 --> 00:23:44,375 My days used to be my shows and planning new ventures. 546 00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:46,959 Now it's walking 3 miles, 547 00:23:47,041 --> 00:23:49,917 reading, and learning to crochet. 548 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,417 Real men crochet. 549 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,250 Or that's what I keep telling myself. 550 00:24:00,542 --> 00:24:02,333 - Now let me ask you this question: 551 00:24:02,417 --> 00:24:03,500 how are we doing the picks? 552 00:24:03,583 --> 00:24:05,309 Straight up, right? These are straight picks? 553 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:06,375 - Against the spread. 554 00:24:06,458 --> 00:24:07,476 - They are against the spread? 555 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:08,685 - It's gotta be against the spread. 556 00:24:08,709 --> 00:24:09,625 - No, I don't think it does. 557 00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:11,917 - How do you make picks not with a spread? 558 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,417 I mean, what am I, 5 years old? 559 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:14,643 - Just like we do it on the NFL today. 560 00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:16,875 - I think the Cowboys are gonna win. 561 00:24:16,959 --> 00:24:17,875 - Oh, you're an idiot. 562 00:24:17,959 --> 00:24:19,583 You really are. - I mean, come on, dude. 563 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:21,792 - Gambling was a big part of the show. 564 00:24:21,875 --> 00:24:25,125 - The Green Bay Packers will beat the Chicago Bears, 565 00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:27,625 and I also love the under. 566 00:24:27,709 --> 00:24:29,166 - Talking about the games 567 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:31,500 and, you know, who to bet here or there. 568 00:24:31,583 --> 00:24:32,851 - You can have your 2 grand back 569 00:24:32,875 --> 00:24:35,000 and I'll double it and give you 2,000 more. 570 00:24:35,083 --> 00:24:38,792 Gambling has always been, you know, a part of my life. 571 00:24:41,917 --> 00:24:44,125 - I always had an affinity for gambling. 572 00:24:44,208 --> 00:24:45,500 I enjoyed it. I liked it. 573 00:24:45,583 --> 00:24:48,750 The action, the energy in the room. 574 00:24:48,834 --> 00:24:50,959 I was a good card player as a kid, 575 00:24:51,041 --> 00:24:52,125 but later on in life, 576 00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:56,125 the majority of my gambling was sports-related. 577 00:24:56,208 --> 00:24:59,125 My biggest wager was probably a thousand bucks, 578 00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:01,625 and it was many years later 579 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:04,834 that I really started playing blackjack. 580 00:25:04,917 --> 00:25:07,625 - Craig's infatuation with gambling was never 581 00:25:07,709 --> 00:25:09,458 a secret to me. 582 00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:11,709 Even when we were at 101.5 with the Jersey Guys, 583 00:25:11,792 --> 00:25:13,542 we would be in Atlantic City. 584 00:25:13,625 --> 00:25:17,125 The tables were $10 a hand up to $200 a hand, 585 00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:19,166 and even at that time, he was a social butterfly, 586 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:21,000 spinning around, going from table to table, 587 00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:24,125 having a good time, gambling. 588 00:25:24,208 --> 00:25:27,000 - About 2013, '14, 589 00:25:27,083 --> 00:25:29,208 I'm now playing more blackjack. 590 00:25:29,291 --> 00:25:31,125 I thought that if I treated it 591 00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:34,291 with the discipline of a stockbroker 592 00:25:34,375 --> 00:25:36,333 and thought of it as a job 593 00:25:36,417 --> 00:25:38,542 that I could actually be very lucrative doing it. 594 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:44,500 - He could play one, two, 595 00:25:44,583 --> 00:25:46,917 sometimes three hands at one time 596 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,375 and never skipped a beat. 597 00:25:48,458 --> 00:25:50,750 I've played blackjack. I love playing blackjack. 598 00:25:50,834 --> 00:25:53,041 I have trouble with my one hand. 599 00:25:53,125 --> 00:25:55,208 - I had been around him a couple times 600 00:25:55,291 --> 00:25:58,834 where he won a lot of money. 601 00:25:58,917 --> 00:26:00,101 I would start to think to myself, 602 00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:03,041 "He has this figured out. Why can't I figure this out? 603 00:26:03,125 --> 00:26:07,333 This seems like great additional income." 604 00:26:07,417 --> 00:26:10,417 - When it came to gambling, I thought I was the best at it 605 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:14,583 and I didn't think any casino could beat me. 606 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:17,583 The cockiness that I'm really good at it, 607 00:26:17,667 --> 00:26:19,083 I'm gonna win, 608 00:26:19,166 --> 00:26:21,083 that plays into your ego. 609 00:26:21,166 --> 00:26:22,959 So there's an arrogance to it... 610 00:26:23,041 --> 00:26:23,917 There was for me, at least... 611 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Where, you know, I always compared it 612 00:26:26,083 --> 00:26:28,583 to Tiger Woods on a golf course, 613 00:26:28,667 --> 00:26:30,959 Michael Jordan on a basketball court. 614 00:26:31,041 --> 00:26:33,583 When they stepped on the court and the golf course, 615 00:26:33,667 --> 00:26:35,208 nothing else mattered. 616 00:26:35,291 --> 00:26:38,709 So when I sat down at a table to play blackjack, 617 00:26:38,792 --> 00:26:40,709 nothing else mattered. 618 00:26:40,792 --> 00:26:42,125 - I'm not really a gambler, 619 00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:44,458 but Craig and I sat down at a blackjack table, 620 00:26:44,542 --> 00:26:46,750 and after about 20 hands, 621 00:26:46,834 --> 00:26:49,458 I had won $3,500. 622 00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:52,000 And I said, "I'm done. I'm leaving. 623 00:26:52,083 --> 00:26:53,625 I got my 3,500. I'm good." 624 00:26:53,709 --> 00:26:55,184 You know, everybody said, "No, you gotta stay. 625 00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:57,583 You gotta stay." I'm like, "No, I'm leaving." 626 00:26:57,667 --> 00:26:59,476 And really, when you think about the difference 627 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,417 between me and Craig when it comes to gambling, 628 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:03,750 there it is right there. 629 00:27:03,834 --> 00:27:06,083 I left, he stayed, 630 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:08,500 and then later on came the bet for the Borgata 631 00:27:08,583 --> 00:27:10,458 because I guess he felt like, 632 00:27:10,542 --> 00:27:12,834 you know, he had to prove something to me. 633 00:27:12,917 --> 00:27:14,458 - We were doing a show 634 00:27:14,542 --> 00:27:16,792 at the Borgata in Atlantic City. 635 00:27:16,875 --> 00:27:18,017 We would go down there once a year, 636 00:27:18,041 --> 00:27:20,000 do a broadcast from down there. 637 00:27:20,083 --> 00:27:22,500 - In a strange way, it kinda happened overnight. 638 00:27:22,583 --> 00:27:24,792 An infamous event called the Boomer Bet. 639 00:27:24,875 --> 00:27:27,458 - If you show me how to win some money. 640 00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:29,291 - Here's what I would do for you at Borgata. 641 00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:31,625 You just have to take the leap of faith. 642 00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:35,208 - He was on such a roll and so cocky and confident 643 00:27:35,291 --> 00:27:37,125 with his blackjack winning, 644 00:27:37,208 --> 00:27:39,792 Craig brought up on the air 645 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:42,625 that he would double Boomer's money. 646 00:27:42,709 --> 00:27:45,125 - Talking about what a great gambler he was 647 00:27:45,208 --> 00:27:47,667 and that he could take $10,000 of my money 648 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:50,166 and double it and all this other... 649 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:52,125 I said, "Oh, really? You could double my money? 650 00:27:52,208 --> 00:27:53,125 You could double my money?" 651 00:27:53,208 --> 00:27:54,688 And I just kept, you know, pushing him 652 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:55,893 and pushing him and pushing him, 653 00:27:55,917 --> 00:27:57,393 and he kept saying, "Yeah, I could double your money. 654 00:27:57,417 --> 00:27:58,333 I could double your money." 655 00:27:58,417 --> 00:28:00,291 How 'bout if I give you 10 grand? 656 00:28:00,375 --> 00:28:02,000 - If you gave me 10 grand? - Yeah. 657 00:28:02,083 --> 00:28:04,667 - I'd guarantee you 25,000. 658 00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:06,250 - Guarantee me... I'm in. 659 00:28:06,333 --> 00:28:09,834 - To guarantee a win is just stupid, 660 00:28:09,917 --> 00:28:12,667 but I said it on the air and he called me on it. 661 00:28:16,041 --> 00:28:20,000 Boomer came into the studio with $10,000 in cash 662 00:28:20,083 --> 00:28:23,834 and counted out every single $100 bill. 663 00:28:23,917 --> 00:28:25,208 - I gave him 10 grand. 664 00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:26,834 It was crazy radio. 665 00:28:26,917 --> 00:28:28,750 You had gambling and the Borgata 666 00:28:28,834 --> 00:28:30,500 and money and cash. 667 00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:32,333 - We talk it up and talk it up 668 00:28:32,417 --> 00:28:35,208 for the weeks leading up to this Borgata remote. 669 00:28:35,291 --> 00:28:36,750 - I remember listeners calling up 670 00:28:36,834 --> 00:28:38,834 and saying, you know, "You're full of baloney. 671 00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:41,542 You're not doing that. That's not real money." 672 00:28:41,625 --> 00:28:42,685 - Alan and I were, like, trying 673 00:28:42,709 --> 00:28:44,000 to do the math in our heads, 674 00:28:44,083 --> 00:28:46,750 saying, like, "How is this gonna work?" 675 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,250 - That night, I won about $80,000 676 00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:53,333 playing blackjack. 677 00:28:53,417 --> 00:28:55,041 "Boomer and Carton" live at the Borgata. 678 00:28:55,125 --> 00:28:57,000 We're inside the B Bar. 679 00:28:57,083 --> 00:28:58,542 At 11:00 this morning, 680 00:28:58,625 --> 00:29:00,917 it's the first ever "Boomer and Carton" deep stack 681 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,542 Texas Hold'em tournament. 682 00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:05,041 Normally, when we did our show at the Borgata, 683 00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:06,208 a hundred people came 684 00:29:06,291 --> 00:29:08,834 to watch us do the show Friday morning. 685 00:29:08,917 --> 00:29:10,166 That Friday morning, 686 00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:12,583 there might have been a thousand people there. 687 00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:14,834 - Craig has a sack of cash. 688 00:29:14,917 --> 00:29:18,041 He takes it, puts it down on the desk, 689 00:29:18,125 --> 00:29:20,750 and presented to Boomer, 690 00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:23,291 and there was much rejoicing. 691 00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:26,000 - So I gave him the 25 grand. The place goes crazy. 692 00:29:26,083 --> 00:29:28,917 - And that bet was the coolest thing 693 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,291 and, as it's turned out, 694 00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:33,291 probably the worst thing that's ever happened. 695 00:29:33,375 --> 00:29:35,083 - The real problem with the Boomer Bet 696 00:29:35,166 --> 00:29:36,583 is that I won. 697 00:29:36,667 --> 00:29:38,792 As a result of that win, 698 00:29:38,875 --> 00:29:42,417 I'm now, you know, the blackjack whisperer. 699 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:44,041 - I would get calls from callers, 700 00:29:44,125 --> 00:29:45,917 "Hey, let me give Craig 10 grand." 701 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,917 You know, I'd hang up on 'em. 702 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,309 I never would put anybody through, 703 00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:50,417 'cause that seemed silly to me. 704 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,917 Well, he's not gonna take some random dude's $10,000 705 00:29:54,041 --> 00:29:55,125 and promise to double it. 706 00:29:55,208 --> 00:29:56,583 That didn't make sense. 707 00:29:56,667 --> 00:29:57,959 - So I started to get approached 708 00:29:58,041 --> 00:29:59,959 by a number of these types of people 709 00:30:00,041 --> 00:30:02,959 who heard the bet, knew that I had paid it off, 710 00:30:03,041 --> 00:30:04,041 and then wanted to know 711 00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:06,000 if I wanted to be in business with them. 712 00:30:06,083 --> 00:30:09,458 "Hey, Craig, I'll give you 100,000 bucks. 713 00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:12,792 Give me 110,000 back next month." 714 00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:14,458 - That's where the craziness began, 715 00:30:14,542 --> 00:30:17,291 and I guess it just got worse and worse and worse for him. 716 00:30:27,041 --> 00:30:29,291 - Once people started giving me money to gamble 717 00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:32,458 on a regular basis, and significant sums of money, 718 00:30:32,542 --> 00:30:36,542 then I was all in. 719 00:30:36,625 --> 00:30:38,375 There were four different individuals, 720 00:30:38,458 --> 00:30:40,750 two of whom I've never met to this day, 721 00:30:40,834 --> 00:30:44,291 who extended me loans upwards of a million dollars. 722 00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:46,917 There were times when I met a buddy 723 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,166 on a street corner in New York City 724 00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:51,375 and he would hand me a knapsack, 725 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:54,750 and inside that knapsack was a million dollars cash. 726 00:30:56,375 --> 00:30:58,166 Blackjack became a drug for me. 727 00:31:01,041 --> 00:31:04,542 - A blackjack player is like somebody doing cocaine. 728 00:31:04,625 --> 00:31:08,959 You have to keep taking cocaine to maintain that rush, 729 00:31:09,041 --> 00:31:11,041 and blackjack is extremely similar. 730 00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:19,000 - Everyone knew that I gambled. 731 00:31:19,083 --> 00:31:20,417 They all knew I liked to gamble. 732 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:23,208 Nobody knew the amounts I was gambling. 733 00:31:23,291 --> 00:31:26,583 There was one time I won $325,000 734 00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:28,542 in, like, nine minutes. 735 00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:31,959 Two hands, $15,000 per hand, 736 00:31:32,041 --> 00:31:35,083 so 30,000 bucks every deal. 737 00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:36,834 I won 325 grand 738 00:31:36,917 --> 00:31:40,166 and walked out the door to go to work. 739 00:31:47,959 --> 00:31:49,417 When I decided I wanted to gamble, 740 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,041 I would reach out to one of the investors. 741 00:31:52,125 --> 00:31:54,250 I would then wire that money to the casino. 742 00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:57,041 It's called front money. 743 00:31:57,125 --> 00:31:59,917 Most of the time, I was there after I worked, 744 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,083 and I would go there right after a show. 745 00:32:03,166 --> 00:32:04,184 - If you really think about it, 746 00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:06,458 what normal person, at 12:00 noon, 747 00:32:06,542 --> 00:32:08,750 decides to drive 2 1/2 hours 748 00:32:08,834 --> 00:32:10,375 to go play blackjack for an hour 749 00:32:10,458 --> 00:32:11,583 to drive back 2 1/2 hours? 750 00:32:11,667 --> 00:32:12,750 I mean, think about that. 751 00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:17,250 Five hours of driving to play blackjack for an hour? 752 00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,208 Who the... why? 753 00:32:19,291 --> 00:32:21,583 - When I was gambling late at night, nobody knew. 754 00:32:21,667 --> 00:32:23,417 I didn't tell anybody. 755 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:25,375 I would leave my apartment at midnight, 756 00:32:25,458 --> 00:32:27,959 everyone was sleeping, and I was gone. 757 00:32:29,667 --> 00:32:32,458 I got on a helicopter in New York City 758 00:32:32,542 --> 00:32:34,917 and flew to Atlantic City. 759 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,250 I had a $600,000 wire 760 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:39,917 that was sent on my behalf, 761 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,166 and I wagered from about 1:00 in the morning 762 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:44,792 to 3:30. 763 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,166 3:30 was always the cutoff time 764 00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:48,333 for me to be able to get back on a helicopter 765 00:32:48,417 --> 00:32:49,667 and fly back to the city 766 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:52,500 to make it to the Tribeca Radio Studios, 767 00:32:52,583 --> 00:32:53,667 where WFAN was. 768 00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:02,542 Good morning, everybody! 769 00:33:02,625 --> 00:33:05,792 6:03, Boomer Esiason, Craig Carton, 770 00:33:05,875 --> 00:33:08,417 on The FAN. 771 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:11,000 I didn't realize that I was an addict at the time. 772 00:33:11,083 --> 00:33:13,125 I really loved playing, 773 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,750 and I convinced myself 774 00:33:14,834 --> 00:33:16,685 you know, as long as I'm doing a good radio show 775 00:33:16,709 --> 00:33:19,625 and we're number one and they don't know about it, 776 00:33:19,709 --> 00:33:21,250 well, I'll just continue to do it. 777 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:23,208 I will give the Jets credit for this. 778 00:33:23,291 --> 00:33:24,583 We'll start Jets, I guess, okay? 779 00:33:24,667 --> 00:33:26,709 - All right. - Jets are down three... 780 00:33:26,792 --> 00:33:28,500 Gambling aside, I always got involved 781 00:33:28,583 --> 00:33:30,291 in other types of businesses. 782 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:32,709 - Craig was one of those guys that always had an idea. 783 00:33:32,792 --> 00:33:35,000 He always had, you know, the next big thing. 784 00:33:35,083 --> 00:33:38,542 - I have a cologne deal. 785 00:33:38,625 --> 00:33:40,351 - You have a cologne deal. - I have a cologne deal. 786 00:33:40,375 --> 00:33:42,875 - That's what I wanna do. I wanna smell like Craigy. 787 00:33:42,959 --> 00:33:44,500 What's the name of it gonna be called? 788 00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:45,500 Fart? 789 00:33:45,583 --> 00:33:47,166 - He felt he was a businessman. 790 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:48,810 Like, he thought he was a real businessman, 791 00:33:48,834 --> 00:33:50,000 not just a radio personality. 792 00:33:50,083 --> 00:33:53,291 - There were a million of these little side projects. 793 00:33:53,375 --> 00:33:56,125 - I did come up with another genius idea this weekend. 794 00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:57,834 Junk Balm. 795 00:33:57,917 --> 00:33:59,000 - Which is, like, deodorant 796 00:33:59,083 --> 00:34:02,667 for your nether regions, I guess. 797 00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:06,583 - Al and I always thought, "Just do the show. 798 00:34:06,667 --> 00:34:08,917 Why do you have to do all this other stuff?" 799 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,667 - You know, he was sort of a serial entrepreneur. 800 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,709 He had this sort of restless spirit. 801 00:34:14,792 --> 00:34:17,834 He obviously wanted to do more than just talk on the radio. 802 00:34:17,917 --> 00:34:20,208 - I think Craig wanted to see himself 803 00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:23,709 as a, you know, $20 million a year entertainer, 804 00:34:23,792 --> 00:34:24,709 where he wanted to live 805 00:34:24,792 --> 00:34:26,059 in the penthouse in New York City, 806 00:34:26,083 --> 00:34:28,375 where he wanted his kids to go to private school 807 00:34:28,458 --> 00:34:30,101 and he wanted to make sure that he could drive 808 00:34:30,125 --> 00:34:32,375 around New York City with a driver. 809 00:34:32,458 --> 00:34:34,875 At the end of the day, he was always striving, 810 00:34:34,959 --> 00:34:38,208 you know, for the next thing, the next big thing. 811 00:34:38,291 --> 00:34:40,834 - If I was just content being successful 812 00:34:40,917 --> 00:34:43,875 and number one on the radio, 813 00:34:43,959 --> 00:34:45,709 well, we wouldn't be sitting here today. 814 00:34:48,667 --> 00:34:50,709 In May of 2016, 815 00:34:50,792 --> 00:34:53,417 I started a company called Tier One Tickets 816 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,959 to resell tickets to concert events 817 00:34:56,041 --> 00:34:58,000 on the secondary market. 818 00:34:58,083 --> 00:35:01,417 - Talent on the radio doesn't equal talent 819 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:02,750 in business, 820 00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:06,750 and I think he had a hard time understanding that. 821 00:35:06,834 --> 00:35:08,309 - I will always remember saying to him, 822 00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:10,375 "Just keep it real, man. Always keep it real. 823 00:35:10,458 --> 00:35:12,625 "Don't get involved with the wrong people. 824 00:35:12,709 --> 00:35:14,250 You gotta keep it real." 825 00:35:14,333 --> 00:35:16,142 - He surrounded himself with some real beauties. 826 00:35:16,166 --> 00:35:19,917 Joe Meli, if he was a conman, he was a brilliant conman. 827 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,917 Craig said, you know, 828 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,476 "He's the smartest person I've ever met." 829 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:23,940 He was, you know, the smartest person 830 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,917 in every room we were ever in. 831 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,333 I think he was seduced and besotted by Meli. 832 00:35:30,417 --> 00:35:33,417 - Everybody in that ticket reselling business 833 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:34,750 seemed scummy to me. 834 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:41,166 - As we started to acquire more tickets 835 00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:42,875 and sell more tickets, 836 00:35:42,959 --> 00:35:44,792 I reached out to a hedge fund 837 00:35:44,875 --> 00:35:47,291 to loan me money personally 838 00:35:47,375 --> 00:35:49,625 so that I could buy even more tickets. 839 00:35:49,709 --> 00:35:51,959 The hedge fund gave me $2 million 840 00:35:52,041 --> 00:35:55,417 specifically to invest in the purchase of tickets. 841 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,000 I took $950,000 of it 842 00:35:58,083 --> 00:36:00,625 and used it for gambling purposes. 843 00:36:00,709 --> 00:36:02,333 That was the single biggest mistake 844 00:36:02,417 --> 00:36:03,917 I've made in my entire life. 845 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,125 It's at 2 1/2 right now. 846 00:36:06,208 --> 00:36:07,643 The "Boomer and Carton" program does not condone 847 00:36:07,667 --> 00:36:08,792 illegal gambling. 848 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:11,166 Bet it today before it gets to 3. 849 00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:12,601 You don't wanna start buying points. 850 00:36:12,625 --> 00:36:14,059 - All of us would hear him talk about it 851 00:36:14,083 --> 00:36:15,625 both on the air and off the air 852 00:36:15,709 --> 00:36:18,959 about what a central part of his life gambling, 853 00:36:19,041 --> 00:36:22,500 blackjack in particular, was becoming. 854 00:36:22,583 --> 00:36:25,000 - I think he was in Bimini, 855 00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:27,125 and he told me he had won $2 million. 856 00:36:28,709 --> 00:36:31,166 I said, "You're paying taxes on that, right?" 857 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:32,393 And he goes, "Yeah, I gotta pay taxes." 858 00:36:32,417 --> 00:36:33,333 I said, "Fine. 859 00:36:33,417 --> 00:36:35,375 "Put half of that money away for your kids 860 00:36:35,458 --> 00:36:37,083 "and their education. 861 00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:39,166 Don't do anything stupid with it." 862 00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:41,667 I'll never forget that conversation. 863 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:44,458 And then after that, 864 00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:46,291 that's the last I heard of it. 865 00:36:46,375 --> 00:36:48,625 You know, and I had no idea how much he was gambling. 866 00:36:48,709 --> 00:36:50,349 I had no idea where he got the money from. 867 00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:53,041 I had no idea that anybody was contacting him. 868 00:36:53,125 --> 00:36:54,875 - I knew Craig liked to gamble 869 00:36:54,959 --> 00:36:56,267 'cause he talked about it on the air. 870 00:36:56,291 --> 00:36:57,875 He wrote about it in his book. 871 00:36:57,959 --> 00:36:59,542 But that doesn't mean you know 872 00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:01,709 that somebody's gambling millions of dollars. 873 00:37:01,792 --> 00:37:04,041 - I don't think there was one person at that station 874 00:37:04,125 --> 00:37:06,875 that had any idea how bad it was. 875 00:37:06,959 --> 00:37:10,542 - You know, how stupid were we to not really see 876 00:37:10,625 --> 00:37:14,625 that this guy was sort of falling apart? 877 00:37:14,709 --> 00:37:15,583 - I got to a level 878 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:19,041 where I'm now wagering $125,000 879 00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:21,208 on the table to start. 880 00:37:21,291 --> 00:37:24,709 I was winning and losing obscene amounts of money, 881 00:37:24,792 --> 00:37:27,041 and it didn't bother me. 882 00:37:27,125 --> 00:37:28,542 I just wanted to play more. 883 00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:36,875 The worst trip was, an investor gave $1/2 million. 884 00:37:36,959 --> 00:37:39,083 He expected a 10% return. 885 00:37:39,166 --> 00:37:41,583 Everything beyond that, I keep. 886 00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:42,875 I was there to gamble, 887 00:37:42,959 --> 00:37:46,250 so I did it as much as I could. 888 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,250 I fell asleep at the table in the middle of a hand, 889 00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:51,375 and I remember waking up. 890 00:37:51,458 --> 00:37:54,291 I popped up and I said, "Hit," 891 00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:56,375 and I won a $20,000 hand. 892 00:37:58,834 --> 00:38:02,583 In the first 12 hours, I had his 550 893 00:38:02,667 --> 00:38:05,917 plus 1.5 million. 894 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,417 - There are so many incidences 895 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:10,625 where even a casino employee says, "You're winning. 896 00:38:10,709 --> 00:38:12,041 Go home." 897 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:13,792 - And you walk out the door 898 00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:16,458 with 1 1/2 million in profit 899 00:38:16,542 --> 00:38:18,417 that I'm keeping. 900 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:19,625 I walked out with nothing. 901 00:38:25,458 --> 00:38:27,959 I lost the 1 1/2 million I had won 902 00:38:28,041 --> 00:38:31,291 and I lost the 500,000 he had given me. 903 00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:33,709 So I essentially lost $2 million 904 00:38:33,792 --> 00:38:36,166 in a 24 hour period. 905 00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:38,125 So I took a personal loan 906 00:38:38,208 --> 00:38:40,625 to pay back the blackjack investor, 907 00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:43,333 and that's when I really started getting in trouble. 908 00:38:43,417 --> 00:38:45,333 'Cause now you're borrowing from other people 909 00:38:45,417 --> 00:38:47,000 to cover debts, 910 00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:50,834 and when you start going down that slope, 911 00:38:50,917 --> 00:38:53,250 that only ends one way, 912 00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:54,625 and it's not good. 913 00:38:59,917 --> 00:39:03,000 - We have this idea that gambling is about thrill 914 00:39:03,083 --> 00:39:05,792 and risk and uncertainty, 915 00:39:05,875 --> 00:39:07,041 'cause certainly you are 916 00:39:07,125 --> 00:39:09,542 technically risking money, right? 917 00:39:09,625 --> 00:39:12,667 But when you're actually in the zone of gambling, 918 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:14,041 it doesn't feel that way. 919 00:39:19,917 --> 00:39:21,500 - There was no emotion to winning. 920 00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:23,125 There's no emotion to losing. 921 00:39:23,208 --> 00:39:25,959 Blackjack became an escape. 922 00:39:26,041 --> 00:39:28,500 - They say, "Everything in my life felt 923 00:39:28,583 --> 00:39:30,000 "so uncertain. 924 00:39:30,083 --> 00:39:32,333 "The one place that I was certain about anything 925 00:39:32,417 --> 00:39:36,041 "or that I could calm down or get away from my anxieties 926 00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:39,458 was when I was gambling." 927 00:39:39,542 --> 00:39:41,583 - Gambling allowed me to escape, 928 00:39:41,667 --> 00:39:44,041 you know, the "demons." 929 00:39:44,125 --> 00:39:46,583 I felt like I was kinda in this protective bubble 930 00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:48,875 when I played. 931 00:39:48,959 --> 00:39:51,166 - Solitude is very important. 932 00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:52,500 Gamblers used to tell me, 933 00:39:52,583 --> 00:39:54,583 "I liked to go into the corners 934 00:39:54,667 --> 00:39:56,250 "where I could hide. 935 00:39:56,333 --> 00:39:58,333 I felt safe." 936 00:39:58,417 --> 00:40:00,709 He was gambling at a high enough level 937 00:40:00,792 --> 00:40:03,000 where the casino would cater to his wish 938 00:40:03,083 --> 00:40:04,750 to really be alone. 939 00:40:04,834 --> 00:40:06,542 - I was not looking for attention. 940 00:40:06,625 --> 00:40:08,166 I was looking to hide. 941 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:12,333 And every casino in the world would allow me to gamble alone 942 00:40:12,417 --> 00:40:13,750 in great privacy. 943 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:20,542 - The thing is that they care more 944 00:40:20,625 --> 00:40:23,750 about staying in the flow of action, 945 00:40:23,834 --> 00:40:25,542 staying in that continuous zone, 946 00:40:25,625 --> 00:40:27,083 than they do about winning. 947 00:40:29,667 --> 00:40:31,875 - It was the only thing I found in my life 948 00:40:31,959 --> 00:40:35,291 that matched the speed of my brain, 949 00:40:35,375 --> 00:40:38,083 the speed of the cards coming out. 950 00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:41,458 I used to have multiple tables reserved, 951 00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:43,709 and I used to make sure that they shuffled 952 00:40:43,792 --> 00:40:45,625 before I sat down. 953 00:40:45,709 --> 00:40:48,125 I couldn't wait the five minutes 954 00:40:48,208 --> 00:40:49,417 for the dealer to shuffle. 955 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:50,417 I hated it. 956 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:51,959 It felt like an eternity to me. 957 00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:00,658 - When somebody has a sickness 958 00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:03,000 and somebody is wrapped up in something 959 00:41:03,083 --> 00:41:04,792 that you're not really that aware of 960 00:41:04,875 --> 00:41:06,333 and you can't get out in front of it 961 00:41:06,417 --> 00:41:08,834 and help that person stop, 962 00:41:08,917 --> 00:41:11,250 there's a level of guilt that you have as well. 963 00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:14,291 - I was as much of an enabler 964 00:41:14,375 --> 00:41:16,417 as anybody was. 965 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,458 There was a moment when his wife had asked me 966 00:41:20,542 --> 00:41:22,625 to stop going with him, 967 00:41:22,709 --> 00:41:24,017 and I just remember looking in her eyes 968 00:41:24,041 --> 00:41:26,250 and realizing, "All right, you know what? 969 00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:28,291 I got it. I understand." 970 00:41:28,375 --> 00:41:30,625 - I know Boomer was concerned about it. 971 00:41:30,709 --> 00:41:31,989 Al Dukes was concerned about it. 972 00:41:32,041 --> 00:41:33,518 I know there were others who were concerned 973 00:41:33,542 --> 00:41:34,959 about it as well. 974 00:41:35,041 --> 00:41:37,625 I talked to him a couple of times about it. 975 00:41:37,709 --> 00:41:39,458 "Hey, do we have a problem here?" 976 00:41:39,542 --> 00:41:40,458 You know, "Do you think 977 00:41:40,542 --> 00:41:42,083 you should be talking to somebody?" 978 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:46,333 And he perpetually denied it was ever a problem. 979 00:41:46,417 --> 00:41:50,166 - Hiding the gambling was so easy for me. 980 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:53,250 But then you start lying about everything. 981 00:41:53,333 --> 00:41:55,834 - With gambling, there's no saturation point. 982 00:41:55,917 --> 00:41:58,333 Like, you could only do so much drugs 983 00:41:58,417 --> 00:41:59,917 before you're gonna pass out or die, 984 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,500 whereas with gambling, it's virtually unlimited, 985 00:42:02,583 --> 00:42:04,208 so you could imagine the high. 986 00:42:07,291 --> 00:42:08,851 Eventually, everybody runs out of money, 987 00:42:08,875 --> 00:42:10,959 and then, like a house of cards, 988 00:42:11,041 --> 00:42:12,625 it all collapses. 989 00:42:20,917 --> 00:42:22,375 - Day 210. 990 00:42:28,125 --> 00:42:29,917 I used to make millions. 991 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,709 Now, I get 5 bucks a month as a prison tutor. 992 00:42:33,792 --> 00:42:35,375 But the real currency here 993 00:42:35,458 --> 00:42:37,792 is stamps and packets of mackerel, 994 00:42:37,875 --> 00:42:39,667 things other prisoners want. 995 00:42:42,166 --> 00:42:45,250 I bought some basics to make my own prison meals. 996 00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:49,417 My best is Ramen a la Carton y Pollo. 997 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,041 It's chicken breast and turkey log 998 00:42:51,125 --> 00:42:53,166 with ramen noodles. 999 00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:55,375 Now, you gotta make sure to shake the chicken 1000 00:42:55,458 --> 00:42:58,375 in an empty Dorito bag for extra flavor. 1001 00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:09,875 Visiting day is the best and the worst day of the week. 1002 00:43:09,959 --> 00:43:12,875 I live for the visits of family and friends, 1003 00:43:12,959 --> 00:43:14,250 but it's tough when they go. 1004 00:43:19,709 --> 00:43:22,750 Being here makes the decisions and risks I took 1005 00:43:22,834 --> 00:43:25,458 so unfathomably stupid. 1006 00:43:25,542 --> 00:43:29,083 Why wasn't being number one on the radio good enough? 1007 00:43:29,166 --> 00:43:31,583 Why wasn't my family more important 1008 00:43:31,667 --> 00:43:33,709 than my selfish desires? 1009 00:43:33,792 --> 00:43:36,959 I'm trying to understand what I was chasing 1010 00:43:37,041 --> 00:43:39,417 and why that chase was so important. 1011 00:43:45,792 --> 00:43:48,291 I had every single thing you could ever want in life. 1012 00:43:48,375 --> 00:43:49,583 I made a lot of money, 1013 00:43:49,667 --> 00:43:52,083 I had a beautiful family, great apartment, 1014 00:43:52,166 --> 00:43:55,500 but I was clearly living, you know, kinda two lives. 1015 00:43:55,583 --> 00:43:58,792 One, the affable, outgoing radio talk show host 1016 00:43:58,875 --> 00:44:01,333 who had achieved everything he ever wanted in life, 1017 00:44:01,417 --> 00:44:02,417 but at the same time, 1018 00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:06,291 I had these personal demons chasing me. 1019 00:44:06,375 --> 00:44:07,291 And that goes back 1020 00:44:07,375 --> 00:44:10,083 to, you know, the unfortunate reality 1021 00:44:10,166 --> 00:44:14,834 of being molested as a child at a summer camp. 1022 00:44:14,917 --> 00:44:17,291 I was abused every night for eight weeks, 1023 00:44:17,375 --> 00:44:18,375 something I withheld 1024 00:44:18,417 --> 00:44:21,625 for more than 30 years of my life. 1025 00:44:21,709 --> 00:44:23,959 I still had shame over it. 1026 00:44:24,041 --> 00:44:27,333 You know, it still haunted me and bothered me. 1027 00:44:27,417 --> 00:44:30,291 I was never living a full life emotionally, 1028 00:44:30,375 --> 00:44:34,333 'cause I had this secret which gnawed at me. 1029 00:44:34,417 --> 00:44:38,000 I wish I had been strong enough much earlier in my life 1030 00:44:38,083 --> 00:44:41,291 to tell people. 1031 00:44:41,375 --> 00:44:44,875 You know, I wasn't able to do that. 1032 00:44:44,959 --> 00:44:46,542 The first time I wanted to put it out 1033 00:44:46,625 --> 00:44:48,750 was when I wrote my book, "Loudmouth," 1034 00:44:48,834 --> 00:44:51,000 and I wrote a chapter on it. 1035 00:44:51,083 --> 00:44:53,667 Simon & Schuster actually made the decision 1036 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:55,792 that I shouldn't put it in the book 1037 00:44:55,875 --> 00:44:57,792 because the rest of the book is 1038 00:44:57,875 --> 00:45:00,834 hijinks and laughter and fun stuff. 1039 00:45:00,917 --> 00:45:04,333 So I regrettably took it out of the book. 1040 00:45:04,417 --> 00:45:06,458 I still read it now and then. 1041 00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:10,125 So you want me to just read it, or... 1042 00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:11,208 - Yeah. 1043 00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:59,291 "And I never cried again 1044 00:45:59,375 --> 00:46:02,291 and haven't cried once since that night." 1045 00:46:08,041 --> 00:46:10,041 - Sexual abuse is obviously something 1046 00:46:10,125 --> 00:46:13,166 that he hid deep inside himself. 1047 00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:16,041 And I don't know who knew, but I could tell you I didn't. 1048 00:46:16,125 --> 00:46:17,351 He never talked to me about it. 1049 00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:20,083 - He never, ever shared 1050 00:46:20,166 --> 00:46:21,458 the most intimate details 1051 00:46:21,542 --> 00:46:23,458 of that part of his life when he was a child. 1052 00:46:23,542 --> 00:46:27,083 - I found that out just this year. 1053 00:46:27,166 --> 00:46:28,959 - Obviously, Sandusky's the bad guy here. 1054 00:46:29,041 --> 00:46:31,083 He's, you know, the Big Bad Wolf, 1055 00:46:31,166 --> 00:46:33,709 but the reality is that Joe Paterno is the godfather 1056 00:46:33,792 --> 00:46:35,125 of everything in Penn State. 1057 00:46:35,208 --> 00:46:38,792 The worst moment for me in not coming forward was 1058 00:46:38,875 --> 00:46:40,834 being on the radio 1059 00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:44,750 during the whole Jerry Sandusky situation at Penn State. 1060 00:46:44,834 --> 00:46:48,959 This is a predator, a hunter, of young boys 1061 00:46:49,041 --> 00:46:51,125 who did the most despicable thing 1062 00:46:51,208 --> 00:46:53,083 you could ever do to a child, 1063 00:46:53,166 --> 00:46:56,208 and the guy that was in charge of everything at Penn State 1064 00:46:56,291 --> 00:46:58,125 allowed it to go on 1065 00:46:58,208 --> 00:47:00,125 without thinking twice about it. 1066 00:47:00,208 --> 00:47:02,333 - I had never seen him 1067 00:47:02,417 --> 00:47:06,792 react to something so viciously. 1068 00:47:06,875 --> 00:47:08,792 - Here's a man that was told 1069 00:47:08,875 --> 00:47:12,125 that a 10-year-old boy was being sodomized 1070 00:47:12,208 --> 00:47:13,959 in his backyard 1071 00:47:14,041 --> 00:47:15,792 and did nothing about it. 1072 00:47:15,875 --> 00:47:17,208 - And I now think 1073 00:47:17,291 --> 00:47:19,834 that all the things that he has been through, 1074 00:47:19,917 --> 00:47:21,375 the way that he is, 1075 00:47:21,458 --> 00:47:23,166 obviously stems from some of the things 1076 00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:25,041 that happened while he was in camp. 1077 00:47:28,417 --> 00:47:30,959 - From the minute I decided not to share 1078 00:47:31,041 --> 00:47:33,500 being molested at summer camp, 1079 00:47:33,583 --> 00:47:35,959 I became good at lying. 1080 00:47:36,041 --> 00:47:38,166 Because your... 1081 00:47:38,250 --> 00:47:40,542 all your emotions are now lies. 1082 00:47:40,625 --> 00:47:42,542 'Cause you're protecting how you really feel. 1083 00:47:45,417 --> 00:47:48,709 You build up these defense mechanisms, 1084 00:47:48,792 --> 00:47:52,250 really, as a way just to get through life. 1085 00:47:52,333 --> 00:47:55,333 Ultimately, I transferred that 1086 00:47:55,417 --> 00:47:58,709 into lying about gambling, 1087 00:47:58,792 --> 00:48:00,375 and they're very much connected. 1088 00:48:03,834 --> 00:48:05,792 - When you have trauma issues that are unresolved 1089 00:48:05,875 --> 00:48:08,083 and you're having these big wins, 1090 00:48:08,166 --> 00:48:11,041 it makes you really forget about that trauma. 1091 00:48:11,125 --> 00:48:12,709 Gambling is one of the perfect drugs. 1092 00:48:12,792 --> 00:48:14,875 It almost always works. 1093 00:48:23,458 --> 00:48:25,542 - Which number will be higher? 1094 00:48:25,625 --> 00:48:29,208 Rangers' shots on goal tomorrow night 1095 00:48:29,291 --> 00:48:32,375 or Carmelo Anthony points tonight? 1096 00:48:32,458 --> 00:48:35,542 - Rangers' shots on goal. - I will take Carmelo. 1097 00:48:35,625 --> 00:48:37,709 We got a hundy on that though. We shook like men. 1098 00:48:37,792 --> 00:48:38,935 You wanna pinky swear like men too? 1099 00:48:38,959 --> 00:48:40,142 - I'm not gonna pinky swear anything. 1100 00:48:40,166 --> 00:48:41,643 - Well, I'm just saying. - I shook your hand. 1101 00:48:41,667 --> 00:48:43,333 - It made sense to me at the time, 1102 00:48:43,417 --> 00:48:46,417 but the very first loan I took to gamble with, 1103 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,583 it's immediately wrong and out of control. 1104 00:48:49,667 --> 00:48:51,583 If you lose their money, 1105 00:48:51,667 --> 00:48:54,125 you have to pay them back out of your money 1106 00:48:54,208 --> 00:48:55,458 with interest. 1107 00:48:55,542 --> 00:48:58,834 If you add up all the loans over a couple of years, 1108 00:48:58,917 --> 00:49:02,750 I borrowed over $30 million to gamble with. 1109 00:49:02,834 --> 00:49:04,458 In 2017, 1110 00:49:04,542 --> 00:49:07,875 I was the net loser of a couple million dollars. 1111 00:49:07,959 --> 00:49:11,542 I had to cover the losses personally. 1112 00:49:11,625 --> 00:49:14,083 - The amazing thing about Craig 1113 00:49:14,166 --> 00:49:18,083 and one of the reasons we were all sort of blindsided 1114 00:49:18,166 --> 00:49:21,750 is that when the light came on, he was ready to go 1115 00:49:21,834 --> 00:49:24,083 and still performing at his best. 1116 00:49:24,166 --> 00:49:25,166 - Now I'm sure, guy, 1117 00:49:25,208 --> 00:49:27,000 your intellect is probably illiterate, 1118 00:49:27,083 --> 00:49:28,959 so I read the newspaper for you. 1119 00:49:29,041 --> 00:49:30,792 - He was the mailman. That guy delivered. 1120 00:49:30,875 --> 00:49:32,226 No matter what was going on around him, 1121 00:49:32,250 --> 00:49:36,166 he could block it out and just zoom in on that camera 1122 00:49:36,250 --> 00:49:37,750 and capture that audience. 1123 00:49:37,834 --> 00:49:39,500 - What do you have a thing for? 1124 00:49:39,583 --> 00:49:41,125 - Lasagna. - Okay. 1125 00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:42,250 - Yes. - Good. Nice. 1126 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:44,291 - And I will admit, 1127 00:49:44,375 --> 00:49:47,166 hot chicks in nothing at all but football jerseys 1128 00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:49,500 and me pouring barbecue sauce all over them 1129 00:49:49,583 --> 00:49:51,417 and working them like a rib. 1130 00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:53,583 But that's me, Boomer. That's my fetish. 1131 00:49:53,667 --> 00:49:55,291 - It is absolutely shocking to me 1132 00:49:55,375 --> 00:49:58,792 that he was able to come in and do radio shows. 1133 00:49:58,875 --> 00:50:00,542 I can't imagine the stress he was under. 1134 00:50:00,625 --> 00:50:02,792 - All hail the king! 1135 00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:04,518 - Even though you knew there had to be bad, 1136 00:50:04,542 --> 00:50:06,291 you never saw it. 1137 00:50:06,375 --> 00:50:08,709 He was a master of disguise in that manner. 1138 00:50:10,959 --> 00:50:14,667 - Part of the appeal of Craig and the tragic nature of Craig 1139 00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:17,959 is that, you know, he manages to screw things up for himself 1140 00:50:18,041 --> 00:50:19,834 even when things are going really well. 1141 00:50:19,917 --> 00:50:23,250 Self-sabotage, it's like it's part of his arsenal. 1142 00:50:24,917 --> 00:50:27,333 - There was one time that he had called me 1143 00:50:27,417 --> 00:50:29,625 to meet at the Greek downtown. 1144 00:50:29,709 --> 00:50:31,875 He started rambling on about this pitch 1145 00:50:31,959 --> 00:50:35,166 and, you know, tickets, and, you know, investment 1146 00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:38,834 and this business that made no sense whatsoever to me, 1147 00:50:38,917 --> 00:50:40,834 and at that moment, 1148 00:50:40,917 --> 00:50:43,166 I said to myself, "Hmm. 1149 00:50:43,250 --> 00:50:45,583 "Something bad is going on here. 1150 00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:47,709 He's in trouble." 1151 00:50:47,792 --> 00:50:50,083 - And then a guy that I've partnered with 1152 00:50:50,166 --> 00:50:54,166 in a ticket business gets arrested by the FBI. 1153 00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:58,333 - We investigated Joe Meli for some illegal activity 1154 00:50:58,417 --> 00:51:01,250 around secondary market sales of tickets, 1155 00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:02,893 and in the course of that investigation, 1156 00:51:02,959 --> 00:51:06,041 we saw some communications and some financial transactions 1157 00:51:06,125 --> 00:51:08,083 that he had with Craig Carton, 1158 00:51:08,166 --> 00:51:10,041 and so as we began to look into Mr. Meli, 1159 00:51:10,125 --> 00:51:12,375 we started to look into Mr. Carton's activity 1160 00:51:12,458 --> 00:51:13,750 as well. 1161 00:51:13,834 --> 00:51:16,041 - The FBI picked up Joe Meli, 1162 00:51:16,125 --> 00:51:18,000 and once Craig got wind of the story, 1163 00:51:18,083 --> 00:51:19,601 he started to talk to me more and more about, 1164 00:51:19,625 --> 00:51:20,893 "I can't believe this is happening. 1165 00:51:20,917 --> 00:51:22,476 "How come nobody told me this guy was no good? 1166 00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:24,375 I can't believe I'm wrapped up in this." 1167 00:51:24,458 --> 00:51:27,041 - Ultimately, what Craig did was 1168 00:51:27,125 --> 00:51:30,291 defraud a hedge fund of money that they invested 1169 00:51:30,375 --> 00:51:32,750 in what they thought was legitimate business. 1170 00:51:32,834 --> 00:51:35,083 - What he actually used the funds for was to pay off 1171 00:51:35,166 --> 00:51:38,291 old investors in some of these other similar schemes 1172 00:51:38,375 --> 00:51:41,500 and to repay debts, particularly gambling debts. 1173 00:51:41,583 --> 00:51:43,458 - The one thing I'm guilty of 1174 00:51:43,542 --> 00:51:46,750 is misappropriating the hedge fund's money. 1175 00:51:46,834 --> 00:51:47,917 I spent their money 1176 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,417 five weeks before the money should've been spent. 1177 00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:54,125 Now, I still bought everything they expected me to buy, 1178 00:51:54,208 --> 00:51:56,750 but still, the timing of when I did it 1179 00:51:56,834 --> 00:51:57,834 is illegal. 1180 00:51:57,875 --> 00:51:59,375 - You can't take money for one purpose 1181 00:51:59,458 --> 00:52:02,959 and use it for another in business. 1182 00:52:06,709 --> 00:52:10,750 - It's mentally draining to live life, 1183 00:52:10,834 --> 00:52:13,583 and then live a secret life 1184 00:52:13,667 --> 00:52:17,792 and to mentally process all the lies you've told. 1185 00:52:17,875 --> 00:52:19,166 Clearly, the amount of crap 1186 00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:21,917 going on inside my head was overwhelming. 1187 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,792 I've got my gambling crap over here, 1188 00:52:24,875 --> 00:52:27,500 I've got my work responsibilities here, 1189 00:52:27,583 --> 00:52:30,291 I've got my family responsibilities here, 1190 00:52:30,375 --> 00:52:32,667 and now I'm juggling, 1191 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:35,667 and I'm juggling on a high wire. 1192 00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:39,083 Because now I'm worried, "They arrested this guy. 1193 00:52:39,166 --> 00:52:40,810 "They're gonna come talk to me at some point. 1194 00:52:40,834 --> 00:52:42,125 We did business together." 1195 00:52:42,208 --> 00:52:43,667 I was mentally drained. 1196 00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:51,542 My wife and I went to Whistler, British Columbia, 1197 00:52:51,625 --> 00:52:55,208 for just an adult vacation. 1198 00:52:55,291 --> 00:52:56,709 So I get on the lift 1199 00:52:56,792 --> 00:52:58,267 and I took it to the top of the mountain 1200 00:52:58,291 --> 00:53:00,667 and I'm kinda admiring the scenery on the way up. 1201 00:53:00,750 --> 00:53:03,166 It's a beautiful place. 1202 00:53:03,250 --> 00:53:05,583 I eat lunch, I have a couple drinks, 1203 00:53:05,667 --> 00:53:07,709 and after about an hour or so, 1204 00:53:07,792 --> 00:53:09,542 I decide it's time to go back down. 1205 00:53:09,625 --> 00:53:13,166 I'm gonna meet my wife. 1206 00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:15,875 So I get on the lift chair by myself, 1207 00:53:15,959 --> 00:53:18,291 and as I'm going down, 1208 00:53:18,375 --> 00:53:22,500 I now have a desire to jump... 1209 00:53:22,583 --> 00:53:25,000 off the lift chair, down to the mountain. 1210 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,750 I lifted the bar up 1211 00:53:33,834 --> 00:53:36,458 and I'm now inching closer to the edge of the seat. 1212 00:53:38,959 --> 00:53:41,208 And I got very upset. 1213 00:53:41,291 --> 00:53:42,709 I started crying, 1214 00:53:42,792 --> 00:53:45,667 and I had this... 1215 00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:48,875 out loud conversation with myself. 1216 00:53:48,959 --> 00:53:51,041 And I'm tell... "Don't do it. Don't do it. 1217 00:53:51,125 --> 00:53:54,041 You're better than this. You're not jumping." 1218 00:53:54,125 --> 00:53:56,333 And as I'm telling myself not to do it, 1219 00:53:56,417 --> 00:54:00,250 I'm inching closer and closer to the edge of the seat, 1220 00:54:00,333 --> 00:54:01,250 'cause I'm going. 1221 00:54:01,333 --> 00:54:03,083 There's no doubt in my mind, 1222 00:54:03,166 --> 00:54:04,834 I'm jumping off this chairlift. 1223 00:54:04,917 --> 00:54:05,997 It's just a matter of when. 1224 00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,875 Fortunately, I had my phone with me. 1225 00:54:14,959 --> 00:54:17,125 And I just called the first person whose name I saw 1226 00:54:17,208 --> 00:54:20,125 that I knew was a friend. 1227 00:54:20,208 --> 00:54:22,208 - I'm just going about my day. 1228 00:54:22,291 --> 00:54:24,917 I get a phone call from Craig. 1229 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,810 I didn't understand, really, what he was saying. 1230 00:54:26,834 --> 00:54:29,750 He was outta control, inconsolable. 1231 00:54:29,834 --> 00:54:33,083 He was truly in a desperate situation. 1232 00:54:33,166 --> 00:54:35,625 - And I said, "I need you to just talk to me. 1233 00:54:35,709 --> 00:54:37,250 "I'm gonna hurt myself. 1234 00:54:37,333 --> 00:54:39,458 I'm about to jump off a chairlift." 1235 00:54:39,542 --> 00:54:41,000 And I'm crying. 1236 00:54:43,875 --> 00:54:45,458 - Really, it was only maybe five seconds 1237 00:54:45,542 --> 00:54:48,959 before I went from him kidding to "This is actually real." 1238 00:54:53,166 --> 00:54:54,583 - He talked. 1239 00:54:54,667 --> 00:54:58,125 He talked to me for however long it was. 1240 00:54:58,208 --> 00:54:59,125 - So all I could say 1241 00:54:59,208 --> 00:55:00,125 at that point was, "I love you." 1242 00:55:00,208 --> 00:55:01,125 "Listen, I love you. 1243 00:55:01,208 --> 00:55:02,267 "You're gonna make it to the bottom. 1244 00:55:02,291 --> 00:55:03,393 "You're gonna get to the bottom of this thing. 1245 00:55:03,417 --> 00:55:07,250 You're not gonna jump." 1246 00:55:07,333 --> 00:55:09,834 And slowly but surely, the yelling stopped 1247 00:55:09,917 --> 00:55:11,667 and the breathing started to slow down. 1248 00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:13,750 I just kinda coaxed him down for the last few bits. 1249 00:55:16,583 --> 00:55:18,959 And the crazy part about it is, 1250 00:55:19,041 --> 00:55:21,083 just as he gets off of the ski lift... 1251 00:55:21,166 --> 00:55:22,291 - I said, "Go eff yourself. 1252 00:55:22,375 --> 00:55:23,750 I'll talk to you about this later." 1253 00:55:23,834 --> 00:55:24,851 - Click, and just hangs up, 1254 00:55:24,875 --> 00:55:28,792 and I was like, "Oh, uh, that's it." 1255 00:55:28,875 --> 00:55:31,834 He needed me, I was there, 1256 00:55:31,917 --> 00:55:33,375 and then on to the next. 1257 00:55:36,041 --> 00:55:38,667 - Thankfully, I haven't felt that way since. 1258 00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:40,709 But I absolutely was gonna jump. 1259 00:55:40,792 --> 00:55:44,166 There was no doubt about it. 1260 00:55:53,125 --> 00:55:55,959 The morning of September 6, 2017, 1261 00:55:56,041 --> 00:55:57,542 that was our first night ever 1262 00:55:57,625 --> 00:56:00,875 living in this new apartment we had moved into. 1263 00:56:00,959 --> 00:56:02,792 I got up at 3:00 in the morning. 1264 00:56:02,875 --> 00:56:06,625 I called Uber to take me to work. 1265 00:56:06,709 --> 00:56:08,375 I walked out of the apartment. 1266 00:56:08,458 --> 00:56:11,000 There was a woman coming up the stairs, 1267 00:56:11,083 --> 00:56:13,458 and she immediately said, "Are you Craig Carton?" 1268 00:56:13,542 --> 00:56:14,709 "Yes, I am." 1269 00:56:14,792 --> 00:56:16,750 "FBI. You're under arrest." 1270 00:56:19,083 --> 00:56:23,542 That was my "day of reckoning." 1271 00:56:23,625 --> 00:56:25,417 I was immediately cuffed. 1272 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:27,875 Then they brought me to the park bench 1273 00:56:27,959 --> 00:56:31,000 and told me to call my wife. 1274 00:56:31,083 --> 00:56:32,417 I woke her up. 1275 00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:33,893 You know, probably the worst phone call 1276 00:56:33,917 --> 00:56:35,375 I ever had to make. 1277 00:56:35,458 --> 00:56:37,418 And when she came down, she had this terrible look 1278 00:56:37,458 --> 00:56:41,041 of, you know, sadness on her face and bewilderment. 1279 00:56:41,125 --> 00:56:43,875 It's still dark outside, 1280 00:56:43,959 --> 00:56:47,041 and I'm sitting there handcuffed to a park bench 1281 00:56:47,125 --> 00:56:49,750 surrounded by FBI agents. 1282 00:56:54,625 --> 00:56:58,166 - I drive in with Jerry Recco on a lot of days. 1283 00:56:58,250 --> 00:57:02,083 We had just parked the car, and my phone rings. 1284 00:57:02,166 --> 00:57:04,458 It was Craig's wife, Kim. 1285 00:57:04,542 --> 00:57:05,685 - And I remember him looking at it, 1286 00:57:05,709 --> 00:57:08,291 looking at me, and saying, "This isn't good." 1287 00:57:08,375 --> 00:57:11,875 - Kim said, "Al, Craig will not be in today." 1288 00:57:11,959 --> 00:57:13,333 I said, "Okay." 1289 00:57:13,417 --> 00:57:14,917 I said, "Is everything okay?" 1290 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,625 She said, "No, but I can't talk to you right now about it." 1291 00:57:18,709 --> 00:57:20,518 - "Something's going on, Craig's not coming in, 1292 00:57:20,542 --> 00:57:21,583 so you have to host." 1293 00:57:21,667 --> 00:57:22,667 That was it. 1294 00:57:22,709 --> 00:57:23,750 "Okay. That's fine. 1295 00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:24,851 "Maybe they had an argument. 1296 00:57:24,875 --> 00:57:26,458 Maybe one of the kids was sick." 1297 00:57:26,542 --> 00:57:28,750 Never thought anything of it other than, "Ugh, 1298 00:57:28,834 --> 00:57:30,184 now I gotta go in there for four hours," 1299 00:57:30,208 --> 00:57:31,375 really unprepared. 1300 00:57:34,959 --> 00:57:38,250 - It's only a little bit after 4:00 in the morning now, 1301 00:57:38,333 --> 00:57:39,500 so there's no traffic, 1302 00:57:39,583 --> 00:57:41,343 there's no hustle and bustle yet of New York. 1303 00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:49,450 - There were two young agents. 1304 00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:51,583 One of them made a point of telling me 1305 00:57:51,667 --> 00:57:53,625 how big a fan he was of mine, 1306 00:57:53,709 --> 00:57:55,792 and this was kind of a surreal moment for him. 1307 00:57:55,875 --> 00:57:59,125 - He was, you know, shocked a little bit at first, 1308 00:57:59,208 --> 00:58:01,458 but he was, you know, very calm 1309 00:58:01,542 --> 00:58:03,792 and he was actually very respectful as well. 1310 00:58:03,875 --> 00:58:05,458 He did say to the agents at one point, 1311 00:58:05,542 --> 00:58:07,422 "I just want you guys to know that I respect you 1312 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:10,792 and I respect what you do." 1313 00:58:10,875 --> 00:58:13,583 - They drove me to Federal Plaza, 1314 00:58:13,667 --> 00:58:16,291 and there was a guard in the guard tower, 1315 00:58:16,375 --> 00:58:18,250 and it was the first time I ever heard myself 1316 00:58:18,333 --> 00:58:21,333 being referred to as a criminal. 1317 00:58:21,417 --> 00:58:22,959 They were very nonchalant. 1318 00:58:23,041 --> 00:58:25,458 "Hey, we got one criminal in the back." 1319 00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:30,834 - All righty. Here we are. 1320 00:58:30,917 --> 00:58:33,792 Al Dukes comes to me and says, "Kim just called. 1321 00:58:33,875 --> 00:58:35,333 Craig's not coming in today." 1322 00:58:38,875 --> 00:58:41,291 - As the morning show was getting close to 6:00, 1323 00:58:41,375 --> 00:58:42,625 Craig wasn't there. 1324 00:58:42,709 --> 00:58:45,250 He had appeared to be under the weather 1325 00:58:45,333 --> 00:58:48,291 for a few days before and sluggish. 1326 00:58:48,375 --> 00:58:50,667 - He was a little edgy the day before. 1327 00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:53,166 He was actually even, I believe, sleeping 1328 00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:56,500 in between, you know, some of our commercial breaks. 1329 00:58:56,583 --> 00:58:57,976 I figured there was something wrong, 1330 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,166 but I had no idea what it was. 1331 00:59:01,250 --> 00:59:03,375 - WFAN-FM, New York. 1332 00:59:03,458 --> 00:59:05,834 It's "Boomer and Carton" on The FAN. 1333 00:59:05,917 --> 00:59:10,125 - September 6, 2017, was my 55th birthday. 1334 00:59:11,417 --> 00:59:15,291 And I flipped on "Boomer and Carton" 1335 00:59:15,375 --> 00:59:16,875 and only saw Boomer. 1336 00:59:16,959 --> 00:59:19,500 - I remember opening the show as, 1337 00:59:19,583 --> 00:59:21,500 "Numb Nuts is not here today." 1338 00:59:21,583 --> 00:59:23,542 If you hear me starting the show, 1339 00:59:23,625 --> 00:59:25,417 that means Numb Nuts is under the weather. 1340 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,000 And he's not here. 1341 00:59:27,083 --> 00:59:28,267 - And it was pretty clear to me 1342 00:59:28,291 --> 00:59:30,625 that they didn't know why Craig wasn't there. 1343 00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:36,375 - They brought me into a very small office room 1344 00:59:36,458 --> 00:59:38,375 and then cuffed me to something 1345 00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:39,709 on the side of the wall, 1346 00:59:39,792 --> 00:59:41,875 and I was sitting at a table basically 1347 00:59:41,959 --> 00:59:43,542 for the next four hours. 1348 00:59:43,625 --> 00:59:48,083 - We don't handle celebrities or people of any notability 1349 00:59:48,166 --> 00:59:49,685 any different than anyone else we arrest. 1350 00:59:49,709 --> 00:59:51,250 If you're being arrested by the FBI, 1351 00:59:51,333 --> 00:59:52,518 you're being arrested by the FBI 1352 00:59:52,542 --> 00:59:54,750 because you committed a federal crime. 1353 00:59:54,834 --> 00:59:55,917 He definitely was not 1354 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,810 the Craig Carton you heard on the radio though. 1355 00:59:57,834 --> 00:59:58,750 He didn't have 1356 00:59:58,834 --> 01:00:00,542 that brash personality that day. 1357 01:00:00,625 --> 01:00:02,810 - They brought me, like, a snack bar or something to eat 1358 01:00:02,834 --> 01:00:04,083 and a soda, 1359 01:00:04,166 --> 01:00:07,250 and then press release went out. 1360 01:00:07,333 --> 01:00:10,625 - And it was probably in the 7:00 hour 1361 01:00:10,709 --> 01:00:12,083 when I started to see 1362 01:00:12,166 --> 01:00:14,583 the alerts come across on Twitter 1363 01:00:14,667 --> 01:00:16,917 that Craig had been arrested. 1364 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,083 Most of us thought it was something... 1365 01:00:20,166 --> 01:00:22,959 smoking pot, maybe a DUI. 1366 01:00:23,041 --> 01:00:26,750 - It was about an hour later that it comes out 1367 01:00:26,834 --> 01:00:30,583 that he was arrested by the FBI. 1368 01:00:30,667 --> 01:00:31,875 Boom. 1369 01:00:31,959 --> 01:00:34,458 - "Boomer and Carton" cohost Craig Carton was arrested 1370 01:00:34,542 --> 01:00:36,000 at his home on federal charges 1371 01:00:36,083 --> 01:00:38,667 related to white-collar crime early this morning. 1372 01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:42,000 It's unclear what those charges are. 1373 01:00:42,083 --> 01:00:44,250 - I called Al Dukes 1374 01:00:44,333 --> 01:00:46,709 and I said, "Al, what is going on?" 1375 01:00:46,792 --> 01:00:49,291 And he said, "The FBI arrested him." 1376 01:00:49,375 --> 01:00:50,542 And I said, "For what?" 1377 01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:52,625 And he said, "I have no idea." 1378 01:00:52,709 --> 01:00:54,625 - All right, it's 7:36 on The FAN. 1379 01:00:54,709 --> 01:00:55,976 "Boomer and Carton" in the morning. 1380 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,851 Jerry Recco sitting in the power chair this morning 1381 01:00:57,875 --> 01:00:58,792 for Craigy. 1382 01:00:58,875 --> 01:01:00,041 - I was stunned, 1383 01:01:00,125 --> 01:01:01,458 and you start to think, like, 1384 01:01:01,542 --> 01:01:03,125 "What has he gotten himself into?" 1385 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:06,125 Mark Chernoff, our program director, 1386 01:01:06,208 --> 01:01:08,351 comes running into the studio and says, "Don't say anything! 1387 01:01:08,375 --> 01:01:10,500 Don't say anything!" 1388 01:01:10,583 --> 01:01:12,625 And I'm like, "Don't say anything? 1389 01:01:12,709 --> 01:01:14,000 "I mean, we're a talk show, 1390 01:01:14,083 --> 01:01:16,834 "and the talk show host that is not here 1391 01:01:16,917 --> 01:01:19,333 "is arrested by the FBI, for Christ's sake. 1392 01:01:19,417 --> 01:01:21,500 What am I supposed to say?" 1393 01:01:21,583 --> 01:01:23,417 - All right, top of the hour, 9:00. 1394 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:25,375 "Boomer and Carton" on The FAN. 1395 01:01:25,458 --> 01:01:26,709 I am sitting in for Craig 1396 01:01:26,792 --> 01:01:28,500 and Boomer will be back in just a moment. 1397 01:01:28,583 --> 01:01:29,792 We got a lot going on. 1398 01:01:29,875 --> 01:01:31,333 - Radio's an interesting thing 1399 01:01:31,417 --> 01:01:34,000 in that it doesn't stop for anything. 1400 01:01:34,083 --> 01:01:37,000 You kinda have to roll with the changes. 1401 01:01:37,083 --> 01:01:38,226 - And I gotta look in the camera 1402 01:01:38,250 --> 01:01:40,208 and I gotta say, "Well... 1403 01:01:40,291 --> 01:01:42,333 "now I know why my partner's not here this morning. 1404 01:01:42,417 --> 01:01:44,500 He's been arrested by the FBI." 1405 01:01:44,583 --> 01:01:46,834 I am aware, now, why Craig is not here this morning. 1406 01:01:46,917 --> 01:01:50,000 Unfortunately, he was arrested this morning. 1407 01:01:50,083 --> 01:01:52,875 Over here at the station, they're aware of it as well. 1408 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,542 They're cooperating with authorities. 1409 01:01:55,625 --> 01:01:58,083 I'm taken aback and surprised by it, 1410 01:01:58,166 --> 01:01:59,959 just like I'm sure everybody else is. 1411 01:02:00,041 --> 01:02:02,417 I have no other information. There's nothing else I can say. 1412 01:02:02,500 --> 01:02:04,583 I thought he called in sick this morning, 1413 01:02:04,667 --> 01:02:06,959 but unfortunately, my partner was arrested, 1414 01:02:07,041 --> 01:02:10,041 so I guess there'll be more news to come, I'm sure, 1415 01:02:10,125 --> 01:02:11,125 from somewhere. 1416 01:02:11,166 --> 01:02:12,875 "But at this moment, I'm as shocked 1417 01:02:12,959 --> 01:02:14,208 as everybody else." 1418 01:02:14,291 --> 01:02:16,333 Because I was. 1419 01:02:16,417 --> 01:02:17,834 And not only shocked. 1420 01:02:17,917 --> 01:02:18,917 I was angry. 1421 01:02:18,959 --> 01:02:21,542 I was brokenhearted over the whole thing. 1422 01:02:28,458 --> 01:02:31,041 - And then it all started clicking into place 1423 01:02:31,125 --> 01:02:33,875 that he was doing the old shell game, 1424 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,959 just pay off the gambling debts. 1425 01:02:37,041 --> 01:02:38,434 - The formal charges that were brought 1426 01:02:38,458 --> 01:02:40,625 were securities fraud, wire fraud, 1427 01:02:40,709 --> 01:02:43,083 and then conspiracy to commit those offenses. 1428 01:02:43,166 --> 01:02:44,917 Basically, that just means he lied to people 1429 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,875 to solicit funds from them and did that with other people. 1430 01:02:48,959 --> 01:02:51,417 - Shortly after that, I was in front of a judge. 1431 01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:52,750 It's surreal. 1432 01:02:52,834 --> 01:02:54,542 Like, this can't possibly be happening. 1433 01:02:58,667 --> 01:03:00,017 You know, the courtroom was packed, 1434 01:03:00,041 --> 01:03:01,583 and it's all media. 1435 01:03:01,667 --> 01:03:04,083 The judge made a wisecrack about, 1436 01:03:04,166 --> 01:03:05,766 "Apparently, there's a lot of sports fans 1437 01:03:05,834 --> 01:03:06,954 here in the building today." 1438 01:03:12,375 --> 01:03:15,917 I remember seeing my wife, my brother. 1439 01:03:16,041 --> 01:03:17,792 That was very upsetting to me, 1440 01:03:17,875 --> 01:03:19,959 to see people I loved and cared for 1441 01:03:20,041 --> 01:03:21,959 who are there looking at me, 1442 01:03:22,041 --> 01:03:24,834 you know, as a potential criminal. 1443 01:03:26,709 --> 01:03:28,959 - All right, it's 9:59 on The FAN. 1444 01:03:29,041 --> 01:03:29,959 "Boomer and Carton" here. 1445 01:03:30,041 --> 01:03:31,959 This is me signing off for today, 1446 01:03:32,041 --> 01:03:33,625 and it's been a very interesting day 1447 01:03:33,709 --> 01:03:35,709 around here at WFAN for sure. 1448 01:03:35,792 --> 01:03:38,959 - I spoke to Boomer after the show was over. 1449 01:03:39,041 --> 01:03:41,166 He said to me, "I think he's got real trouble here." 1450 01:03:47,583 --> 01:03:49,125 - I knew we were popular, 1451 01:03:49,208 --> 01:03:51,458 but when I walked out of that courtroom, 1452 01:03:51,542 --> 01:03:53,959 I mean, I've never experienced anything like that in my life. 1453 01:03:57,583 --> 01:03:59,166 I mean, it was like "Lord of the Flies" 1454 01:03:59,250 --> 01:04:00,875 amongst the media to get in my face 1455 01:04:00,959 --> 01:04:03,166 with a camera or a microphone. 1456 01:04:03,250 --> 01:04:04,875 You know, personal space meant nothing. 1457 01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:10,583 - When you see the video footage of him 1458 01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:12,208 coming from the courthouse, 1459 01:04:12,291 --> 01:04:15,667 I mean, jaw-dropping doesn't even begin to... I was stunned. 1460 01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:21,542 - I was hoping it was some kind of mistake. 1461 01:04:26,250 --> 01:04:27,417 But it's highly unlikely 1462 01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:30,333 that federal prosecutors are gonna drop these charges. 1463 01:04:30,417 --> 01:04:33,166 Especially with a big public figure, 1464 01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:35,667 you usually shoot to kill. 1465 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:37,709 You don't shoot to wound. 1466 01:04:37,792 --> 01:04:40,250 And you usually don't miss the shot. 1467 01:04:40,333 --> 01:04:42,875 - I knew right away that I was screwed job-wise. 1468 01:04:42,959 --> 01:04:44,333 There was no doubt in my mind. 1469 01:04:49,125 --> 01:04:51,125 - That was the moment that that show was over. 1470 01:04:59,291 --> 01:05:01,166 - I wanna say thank you to all of our listeners 1471 01:05:01,250 --> 01:05:02,476 that reached out to me yesterday. 1472 01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:04,542 As you can imagine, my phone blew up 1473 01:05:04,625 --> 01:05:06,875 as everybody was finding out what was going on. 1474 01:05:06,959 --> 01:05:08,875 - For ten years, we were one 1475 01:05:08,959 --> 01:05:12,375 of the most listened to sports talk radio shows in America. 1476 01:05:12,458 --> 01:05:13,583 And for those ten years, 1477 01:05:13,667 --> 01:05:15,250 we never had a single argument. 1478 01:05:15,333 --> 01:05:17,375 Never had a single fight. 1479 01:05:17,458 --> 01:05:18,834 We were kinda brothers in arms. 1480 01:05:18,917 --> 01:05:20,417 - I just want people to know out there 1481 01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:22,417 that I loved my partner for ten years. 1482 01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:24,250 I still love my partner. 1483 01:05:24,333 --> 01:05:26,093 We tried to have a conversation here or there 1484 01:05:26,166 --> 01:05:28,208 and, you know, it never went well 1485 01:05:28,291 --> 01:05:29,643 because he didn't wanna understand, 1486 01:05:29,667 --> 01:05:30,976 I don't think he wanted to understand, 1487 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,643 that, you know, I have other people in my life 1488 01:05:32,667 --> 01:05:34,959 that are like, "Get the hell away from that guy. 1489 01:05:35,041 --> 01:05:37,583 He got arrested by the FBI." 1490 01:05:37,667 --> 01:05:40,458 - When you get arrested, you don't tell the FBI, 1491 01:05:40,542 --> 01:05:42,792 "Give me a minute. I gotta call 30 people." 1492 01:05:42,875 --> 01:05:44,291 So unfortunately, he found out 1493 01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:46,083 the way the rest of the world found out. 1494 01:05:46,166 --> 01:05:48,250 He either texted or emailed me back 1495 01:05:48,333 --> 01:05:50,917 that he needed a few days before he could call me. 1496 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,083 - It took me a while. 1497 01:05:52,166 --> 01:05:53,291 It took me a while. 1498 01:05:53,375 --> 01:05:56,542 And the reason it took me a while was because 1499 01:05:56,625 --> 01:05:58,458 I felt like I didn't wanna know, you know? 1500 01:05:58,542 --> 01:06:01,417 I just... I don't wanna know all the seedy details. 1501 01:06:03,375 --> 01:06:05,250 I didn't wanna get myself embroiled 1502 01:06:05,333 --> 01:06:07,917 in what he had to do to defend himself. 1503 01:06:10,375 --> 01:06:11,583 They told me to read this. 1504 01:06:11,667 --> 01:06:13,959 "My cohost Craig Carton has been suspended from this show 1505 01:06:14,041 --> 01:06:15,583 until further notice." 1506 01:06:18,834 --> 01:06:22,250 I remember him sending me a pretty negative email. 1507 01:06:22,333 --> 01:06:24,458 When I read the email, it made me puke, actually, 1508 01:06:24,542 --> 01:06:26,875 it was just so pathetic, but... 1509 01:06:26,959 --> 01:06:28,959 And I remember that I was very angry 1510 01:06:29,041 --> 01:06:30,625 when I got the email because... 1511 01:06:32,041 --> 01:06:34,166 You know, he talked about something 1512 01:06:34,250 --> 01:06:35,500 that we often talked about 1513 01:06:35,583 --> 01:06:36,851 when once of us would be in trouble. 1514 01:06:36,875 --> 01:06:38,291 You know, "We're foxhole guys." 1515 01:06:38,375 --> 01:06:40,017 That was something that we would always say. 1516 01:06:40,041 --> 01:06:41,184 "I got your back. I got your back. 1517 01:06:41,208 --> 01:06:42,417 You got my back." 1518 01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:44,476 And I always would tell him, like, "I'll be in your foxhole 1519 01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,059 "as long as you don't bring a hand grenade 1520 01:06:46,083 --> 01:06:48,792 in the foxhole with you." 1521 01:06:48,875 --> 01:06:50,834 I was very angry at that, 1522 01:06:50,917 --> 01:06:52,667 and that even pushed me 1523 01:06:52,750 --> 01:06:55,125 further away from him initially. 1524 01:07:00,250 --> 01:07:02,166 - So he's mad at me that I ruined 1525 01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:04,291 what we had created. 1526 01:07:04,375 --> 01:07:07,542 He can be mad at me for that. He should be. 1527 01:07:07,625 --> 01:07:10,125 But I didn't do it on purpose. 1528 01:07:10,208 --> 01:07:13,834 I didn't set out to ruin, you know, "Boomer and Carton." 1529 01:07:21,542 --> 01:07:24,625 - He told me, "Nothing to this. 1530 01:07:24,709 --> 01:07:26,208 "It's a bunch of mistakes. 1531 01:07:26,291 --> 01:07:27,601 "They're gonna get to the bottom of it 1532 01:07:27,625 --> 01:07:28,768 "and then they're gonna just, 1533 01:07:28,792 --> 01:07:30,917 you know, drop any charges against him." 1534 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,834 - And I pleaded not guilty to the charges against me. 1535 01:07:33,917 --> 01:07:35,667 I did that for one reason: 1536 01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:37,917 because I am unequivocally not guilty 1537 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,500 of what I'm being charged with. 1538 01:07:39,583 --> 01:07:41,208 - He took loans 1539 01:07:41,291 --> 01:07:45,375 and did not immediately purchase tickets 1540 01:07:45,458 --> 01:07:47,333 with those moneys, 1541 01:07:47,417 --> 01:07:51,041 but treated those moneys as if they were fungible 1542 01:07:51,125 --> 01:07:53,667 and purchased tickets at a later date. 1543 01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:55,875 - If you are soliciting investments from people 1544 01:07:55,959 --> 01:07:57,643 and you do something other than what you say 1545 01:07:57,667 --> 01:07:59,041 you're going to do with the money, 1546 01:07:59,125 --> 01:08:02,417 that is fraud. 1547 01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:04,041 - Radio host Craig Carton. 1548 01:08:04,125 --> 01:08:07,041 This afternoon, a jury convicted him. 1549 01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:09,417 Carton was accused of swindling investors 1550 01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:12,750 in a ticket reselling business. 1551 01:08:12,834 --> 01:08:14,142 - When it finally came to fruition 1552 01:08:14,166 --> 01:08:17,291 that he was found guilty and there was no defense, 1553 01:08:17,375 --> 01:08:18,518 he realized that was the end of it 1554 01:08:18,542 --> 01:08:21,417 and that was the reality of it. 1555 01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:24,709 - On the day of sentencing, Carton was subdued. 1556 01:08:24,792 --> 01:08:27,417 You know, this is kinda the walk of shame here. 1557 01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:29,267 I think he was wearing a jacket and even a tie. 1558 01:08:29,291 --> 01:08:30,959 I had never seen him do that before. 1559 01:08:31,041 --> 01:08:33,375 He was like a chastised kid. 1560 01:08:33,458 --> 01:08:35,625 He got up and addressed the court 1561 01:08:35,709 --> 01:08:36,750 and delivered, you know, 1562 01:08:36,834 --> 01:08:39,250 an emotional, soul-baring account 1563 01:08:39,333 --> 01:08:41,875 of his gambling addiction, of his sexual abuse, 1564 01:08:41,959 --> 01:08:44,417 of his regret. 1565 01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:45,417 His family was there. 1566 01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:47,125 You know, it was hard to see the family. 1567 01:08:51,709 --> 01:08:55,792 - Judge McMahon sentenced Craig to 3 1/2 years, 1568 01:08:55,875 --> 01:08:58,208 and he has to pay restitution 1569 01:08:58,291 --> 01:09:01,458 back to the victims in his criminal case. 1570 01:09:01,542 --> 01:09:02,851 - The feeling you have when you look 1571 01:09:02,875 --> 01:09:05,291 at Craig Carton's situation is sadness, 1572 01:09:05,375 --> 01:09:06,792 because there are no winners. 1573 01:09:06,875 --> 01:09:08,333 There's nothing good that came 1574 01:09:08,417 --> 01:09:10,125 of the trouble he got himself in. 1575 01:09:10,208 --> 01:09:12,667 There was only losers. 1576 01:09:12,750 --> 01:09:15,792 - You look at the talent, 1577 01:09:15,875 --> 01:09:19,291 the friendships, the lies, 1578 01:09:19,375 --> 01:09:21,083 and you just say to yourself, "Why? 1579 01:09:21,166 --> 01:09:22,458 Why?" 1580 01:09:27,041 --> 01:09:30,625 - All of a sudden, it's like, "Wow, that ten years is gone." 1581 01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:31,935 You know, as fast as it happened, 1582 01:09:31,959 --> 01:09:33,125 that's how quick it ended. 1583 01:09:49,959 --> 01:09:52,667 - Day 371. 1584 01:09:52,750 --> 01:09:55,333 In prison jargon, I have two sleeps and a wake 1585 01:09:55,417 --> 01:09:57,500 before I leave this place. 1586 01:09:57,583 --> 01:09:59,917 For the first month, my wife and family wrote me 1587 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,667 every single day. 1588 01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:03,959 I saved every one of those letters. 1589 01:10:04,041 --> 01:10:05,834 They mean the world to me. 1590 01:10:05,917 --> 01:10:08,333 I've been away from them for a year. 1591 01:10:08,417 --> 01:10:09,542 I'm going to work hard 1592 01:10:09,625 --> 01:10:11,875 to rebuild my relationship with them 1593 01:10:11,959 --> 01:10:15,875 and everyone else in my life. 1594 01:10:15,959 --> 01:10:17,291 I'm excited and nervous. 1595 01:10:17,375 --> 01:10:19,583 Excited to leave this place behind, 1596 01:10:19,667 --> 01:10:22,959 but nervous because I have no idea what's waiting for me 1597 01:10:23,041 --> 01:10:25,000 beyond the gates. 1598 01:10:25,083 --> 01:10:26,583 I'm 51. 1599 01:10:26,667 --> 01:10:27,875 I had it all 1600 01:10:27,959 --> 01:10:29,709 and I lost it all, 1601 01:10:29,792 --> 01:10:33,375 and now I've gotta start all over again. 1602 01:10:50,625 --> 01:10:53,250 - I see a number pop up on my screen 1603 01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:55,625 and I hear a very familiar voice saying, 1604 01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:57,583 "Hey, it's me. I'm out." 1605 01:10:57,667 --> 01:10:59,208 And it was Craigy. 1606 01:10:59,291 --> 01:11:00,750 He's paid his debt to society. 1607 01:11:00,834 --> 01:11:02,625 He did not get out because of coronavirus. 1608 01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:04,109 He got out because of all the things 1609 01:11:04,166 --> 01:11:05,959 he was doing in prison 1610 01:11:06,041 --> 01:11:09,792 to get early release. 1611 01:11:09,875 --> 01:11:12,917 What I heard was a happy and relieved Craig Carton. 1612 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,583 He was with his family yesterday. 1613 01:11:14,667 --> 01:11:16,792 They all went to pick him up at the penitentiary 1614 01:11:16,875 --> 01:11:17,917 and they brought him home, 1615 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,917 and now the real work begins for him, 1616 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,625 and that's rebuilding his life. 1617 01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:25,851 - There was a point where I thought 1618 01:11:25,875 --> 01:11:27,750 this day was never gonna come. 1619 01:11:27,834 --> 01:11:29,625 Greatest moment I had in over a year. 1620 01:11:29,709 --> 01:11:32,417 Just seeing my wife, seeing my four kids, 1621 01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:34,834 seeing the smiles on their faces 1622 01:11:34,917 --> 01:11:36,333 and the tears of joy 1623 01:11:36,417 --> 01:11:39,625 that their dad and husband finally got out of prison. 1624 01:11:48,375 --> 01:11:49,518 And now it's just about enjoying 1625 01:11:49,542 --> 01:11:50,583 all the little things. 1626 01:11:50,667 --> 01:11:52,625 Looking up in the sky, seeing the sun, clouds, 1627 01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:53,875 hearing birds chirp, 1628 01:11:53,959 --> 01:11:55,667 being able to walk down the street, 1629 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:58,667 being able to work, being able to spend time with my family, 1630 01:11:58,750 --> 01:12:00,166 and just having my freedom back, 1631 01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:03,333 which is something, for sure, I took for granted. 1632 01:12:08,208 --> 01:12:10,458 Boomer was the very first person I called, 1633 01:12:10,542 --> 01:12:13,291 and I probably got to him about 27 minutes after 1634 01:12:13,375 --> 01:12:15,125 I actually walked out of prison. 1635 01:12:15,208 --> 01:12:17,834 It was important that he be the first person I called. 1636 01:12:17,917 --> 01:12:20,625 My relationship with him, it's had its ups and downs, 1637 01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:24,500 but all the downs were inflicted by my actions. 1638 01:12:24,583 --> 01:12:25,834 So I'm really happy to say 1639 01:12:25,917 --> 01:12:28,875 that Boomer and I are in a very good place now. 1640 01:12:28,959 --> 01:12:32,333 Closer than we've been in a long time. 1641 01:12:32,417 --> 01:12:33,709 He was mad at me, 1642 01:12:33,792 --> 01:12:35,375 and he had every right to be mad at me, 1643 01:12:35,458 --> 01:12:36,792 and the other guys on the show, 1644 01:12:36,875 --> 01:12:39,875 they had every right to be angry with me too. 1645 01:12:39,959 --> 01:12:42,041 I would love to just look in that camera 1646 01:12:42,125 --> 01:12:43,893 and one day look them all in the eye and just say 1647 01:12:43,917 --> 01:12:45,166 I'm sorry for being selfish 1648 01:12:45,250 --> 01:12:49,834 and into my own shit way too much 1649 01:12:49,917 --> 01:12:53,417 and not taking account of, you know, their wellbeing. 1650 01:12:55,417 --> 01:12:57,959 And I also have to be upfront with who I am, 1651 01:12:58,041 --> 01:12:59,917 and I have to do that 24/7. 1652 01:13:00,041 --> 01:13:01,875 That can never take a day off. 1653 01:13:01,959 --> 01:13:03,750 The pledge I made to the people 1654 01:13:03,834 --> 01:13:05,709 who did stay with me through prison 1655 01:13:05,792 --> 01:13:07,834 is that I'll do that. 1656 01:13:07,917 --> 01:13:10,041 They deserve me to be straight with them. 1657 01:13:10,125 --> 01:13:11,542 Honest with them. 1658 01:13:11,625 --> 01:13:13,083 And if I ever go back on that pledge, 1659 01:13:13,166 --> 01:13:16,291 I don't deserve those people to be there for me. 1660 01:13:17,792 --> 01:13:19,875 If I falter, I lose everything. 1661 01:13:19,959 --> 01:13:22,166 If I make those mistakes again, 1662 01:13:22,250 --> 01:13:24,041 I lose my family. 1663 01:13:24,125 --> 01:13:26,375 There's no, "Hey, you get another shot. 1664 01:13:26,458 --> 01:13:28,500 Hey, we're gonna sit through this crap"... no. 1665 01:13:28,583 --> 01:13:30,583 No, no, no. 1666 01:13:30,667 --> 01:13:34,125 If I go down the rabbit hole again, 1667 01:13:34,208 --> 01:13:35,583 it's over. 1668 01:13:41,792 --> 01:13:43,417 What's important that it comes through 1669 01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:46,917 that I recognize why I went to prison. 1670 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,041 I take full ownership of every bad decision I made. 1671 01:13:53,125 --> 01:13:54,125 Every one of 'em. 1672 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,709 No one forced me to do anything I did. 1673 01:13:59,792 --> 01:14:02,667 I was an adult in clear control of my actions. 1674 01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:09,041 Going to prison is a lifechanging experience, 1675 01:14:09,125 --> 01:14:10,917 and I emerged a better person. 1676 01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:16,291 What I learned about myself, 1677 01:14:16,375 --> 01:14:18,959 other than the fact that I'm a compulsive gambler, 1678 01:14:19,041 --> 01:14:22,291 is that I'm a lousy businessman 1679 01:14:22,375 --> 01:14:24,208 and I'm good at one thing, 1680 01:14:24,291 --> 01:14:26,750 and that's hosting a radio show. 1681 01:14:26,834 --> 01:14:29,208 When you come to terms with what you're good at 1682 01:14:29,291 --> 01:14:30,625 and what you're not good at 1683 01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:33,125 and can be honest about that, 1684 01:14:33,208 --> 01:14:35,542 man, that's liberating. 1685 01:14:37,583 --> 01:14:40,000 I've spent every day for the last year 1686 01:14:40,083 --> 01:14:42,917 dreaming of the opportunity to be back on the radio, 1687 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,250 and I can't wait just to flick a button 1688 01:14:46,333 --> 01:14:50,000 and welcome an audience into my world again. 1689 01:16:33,834 --> 01:16:36,834 This has been a presentation of HBO Sports. 1690 01:16:36,858 --> 01:16:39,858 oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 133353

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