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>>DAVID WILCOCK: Welcome
to "Cosmic Disclosure."
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I'm your host, David Wilcock,
and I'm here with Corey Goode,
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an insider who has
come forward claiming
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to be from the
secret space program
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having access to extraordinarily
classified information, much
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of which is completely new to
even the most seasoned veterans
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who have studied UFOs, insider
testimony, classified intel,
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all this kind of stuff.
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In this episode, we're going to
delve into one of the subjects
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that you have consistently
told us, in your comments
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and by what you've watched
on the internet of my videos,
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is the most fascinating
subject for you.
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I'm talking about the glandula
pinealis, or the pineal gland.
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So Corey, welcome
back to the show.
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>>COREY GOODE: Thank you.
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>>DAVID: Could you, in your own
words, explain for our audience
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what you heard about
the pineal gland.
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What is it?
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Does it have a function for us?
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What is the pineal gland?
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>>GOODE: When I was
in my lab program
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and I was identified
as an intuitive empath,
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they were giving us injections
and sonic treatments
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right here.
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>>DAVID: Injections where?
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>>GOODE: In our shoulders.
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>>DAVID: OK.
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>>GOODE: And our hips.
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When we were younger, they'd
give us injections in our hips.
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When we got older, they would
give them in our shoulder.
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>>DAVID: That sounds painful.
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>>GOODE: You get used to it.
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And then there was just
a metal kind of rod
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that came to a point
that they would
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put right here that
would send sonic waves
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to the pineal gland.
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And they said it
was to enhance--
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not the empath but the intuitive
part of our intuitive empath
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abilities.
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>>DAVID: Could you feel a
sonic vibration in your skull
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from it?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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You felt the sonic waves going
in about a good six inches
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back into your head.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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So it was obviously
important to them
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to stimulate the pineal gland.
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>>DAVID: Well, in
the scholarship
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that I've put out
in "Source Field,"
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there's a whole chapter
on the pineal gland.
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We know it's in the geometric
center of the brain.
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We know it's the size of a pea.
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It has more blood flow going
through it than any other part
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of the body except the kidneys.
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And mainstream science
says, oh, we don't really
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know what this thing is.
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But there are cells inside
the pineal gland that actually
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are the same cells more or less
as in the retina of the eye.
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>>GOODE: Rods and cones?
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>>DAVID: They're
called pinealocytes,
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but they're the same thing.
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And they're also wired into
the visual cortex of the brain
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by the same type of wiring
that we have from our eyes.
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So the ancient traditions
literally call it a third eye.
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And in my videos-- and we
have this coming up in future
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episodes of "Wisdom Teachings"--
there's pine cones and that
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kind of iconography showing
up in all different world
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religions.
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So do you think that
there's something happening
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inside the pineal gland that
these little rods and cones are
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seeing?
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>>GOODE: Well, they said
it was to help stimulate
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the second sight and
the intuitive abilities,
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and they stated that they knew
that there are ancient earth
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breakaway groups that they've
gotten their hands on who
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have very large pineal glands.
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>>DAVID: Oh, really?
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>>GOODE: And they said that
at one time, all of us,
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our pineal glands used to be
quite a bit larger than they
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are now.
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And they were trying to
stimulate growth and activity
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in our pineal glands.
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>>DAVID: Well, that's
very interesting,
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because the insider
Jacob told me
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that the Draco tried to engineer
modern humans so that we would
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not have a pineal gland at all.
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And they got very mad,
because benevolent ETs
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came in and reinstalled it.
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Have you ever heard
of anything like that?
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>>GOODE: Mm-mm.
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>>DAVID: OK.
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>>GOODE: I actually
heard that it
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was a part of the grand
experiment from these 22
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different genetic experiments
from these 40 groups.
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This experiment was not
only genetic in nature,
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but it was also
spiritual in nature
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and that they were trying to
enhance us in a spiritual way
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and that the pineal
gland-- and something also
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to do with our light
body was something
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that they were
manipulating to try
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to help us become more spiritual
and more developed in that way.
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Now, they are obviously at odds
with this Draco Alliance group.
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>>DAVID: So that would imply
that the Super Federation is
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not all negative,
that they are--
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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Like I said, it's
all point of view.
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They have their agendas and why
they're manipulating us the way
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they're doing.
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>>DAVID: We've had
multiple insiders suggest
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that when you see the
halo around someone
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in these ancient pictures--
or in Buddhist illustrations,
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it's more like a corona--
that that would indicate
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a pineal gland that's
much more active,
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and that there's some
sort of light phenomena.
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Did you ever see
anything like that?
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>>GOODE: Well, when I
was talking just now
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about our light
bodies, the exercises
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they put us through were to
not only activate our pineals,
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but to expand our light
bodies to where they would say
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that when they got us to the
point where they wanted us,
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we would be sitting in a
room and our light bodies
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would expand past the walls
of the room that we were in.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: So there is
obviously a direct connection
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with the pineal gland and
the development and expansion
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of your light body.
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>>DAVID: I want to get back to
those exercises in a minute,
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but first I want to bring in
another interesting point.
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I've had at least four
different insiders tell me
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that if our pineal gland is
even partly activated-- never
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mind fully activated--
that we could literally
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fly throughout the cosmos.
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Do you feel that it
is somehow a stargate,
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like a portable
biological stargate built
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into our body just like hardware
that we haven't accessed yet?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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A lot of beings use the pineal
gland and their light body
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to project their
consciousness and their selves
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to other physical locations and
then send that information back
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through that connection
to their physical bodies,
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and then change the vibration
of their physical bodies
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to match the vibration of
the location they're at.
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And then the body
teleports to that location
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and rejoins the consciousness
or what some people are saying
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are having of
out-of-body experiences
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or projecting
their minds-- a lot
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of different terminology for
what these more advanced beings
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are doing.
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>>DAVID: I'm just curious.
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Do you think-- because
this is a speculation
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I've had-- that the
halo is actually
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the mouth of a wormhole and
that you get gravitationally
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pulled up into the mouth when
your pineal gland is open?
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You can fly up into that
halo and travel through it?
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>>GOODE: I think that these
depictions of halos and auras
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that they've shown
around people are just
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people that have really highly
developed their light bodies
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and their pineal glands
and developed their selves
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in a very intuitive,
spiritual way,
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and that's the way that
they've been depicted in art.
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And people that have also
developed their light bodies
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in this way have a
second sight and are also
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able to see other
people's light bodies.
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>>DAVID: Now, in
Tibet they actually
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will have a long, thin, sharp
piece of wood or something
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that they stick through
somebody's forehead,
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and they wound the pineal
gland a little bit with it.
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And that supposedly creates
some kind of access.
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Do you think that they might be
doing a more technological form
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of something like that with this
sonic gun that they gave you?
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>>GOODE: They're
trying to find a way
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to stimulate the pineal gland.
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>>DAVID: How did
it feel when you
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were getting this treatment?
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What was your experience?
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>>GOODE: You would have
out-of-body experiences.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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You would fill your
light body grow.
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You would feel yourself
growing in all directions
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outside of your body.
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Sometimes you would feel
yourself knocked outside
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of your body behind yourself.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: But at
the same time, you
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would feel locally what
was going on in your body,
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the sonic vibration going
on into the wet brain
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matter behind your skull.
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>>DAVID: Well, I did an episode
on "Wisdom Teachings" with Dr.
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Michael Persinger,
who has something
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he calls the "God helmet."
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And they've got these very
powerful magnetic guns
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that he can triangulate
and aim into certain parts
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of the brain.
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He can create extreme
panic and fear.
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He can make you sweat.
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He can create sexual arousal.
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And there are certain
parts of the brain
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that he beams it into where
people have a god experience.
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Now, the skeptics love to
bring Persinger in and say
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that this is proof that
there's no greater reality,
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that these visionary experiences
are just a brain firing.
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But to me, it sounds
like what Persinger's
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doing with the God
helmet is similar to what
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you're saying with sound waves.
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>>GOODE: Yeah, sounds like it.
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Electromagnetic waves were
also used on us at times.
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>>DAVID: So do you
think that anyone
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given this kind of a treatment
would have an experience
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like you had, or
was it because you
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were prepared for with
your intuitive training?
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>>GOODE: I think
they would have it.
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They would have some
sort of an experience.
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I at a young age was already
having out-of-body experiences
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and weird experiences.
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I mean, we would go on long car
trips, and I would get bored,
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and I would project
myself outside of the car.
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And I would project myself
out and fly over the signs
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and over the hills and
look back at the car
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and fly and have an out-of-body
experience going on long trips.
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I was already doing that
at a very young age.
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>>DAVID: My insider Daniel
went through this intuitive
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training for what he
called the Psy Corps.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: And it was supposedly
derived from the CIA,
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or so he was told.
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And I want to kind of go
through some of the things
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that he said they taught
him and then see how that
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compares with your training.
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So number one was
inverse calisthenics.
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They had him hang upside down,
by his knees or by his ankles,
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and do sit-ups.
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And they were told that the
more oxygen was in his blood
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and the more blood flowed
through his pineal gland,
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that if they could
strengthen the circulation
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into the pineal gland
in the body in general,
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that that would
enhance his abilities.
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Did you have anything
similar to that?
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>>GOODE: The closest
we had to that,
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they put us into
pressure rooms that
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were highly pressurized
and highly oxygenated.
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And they would have
us do meditation,
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and they would hook up EEG-type
electrodes to our heads.
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And they had trained us
to go to different states,
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including theta.
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And they would, on command, tell
you to go to a certain state,
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and they would measure how
quickly you could go there
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at different atmospheric
pressures and oxygen
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levels inside this chamber.
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>>DAVID: Do you
think this was partly
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intended to help you
be able to function
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in different extraterrestrial
environments?
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>>GOODE: This was all
during the same time
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when-- this all had to do with
intuitive empath enhancement.
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>>DAVID: Well here
on Gaiam, we have
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a lot of yoga Tai Chi videos.
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And people can get into that
when they're a subscriber.
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It's all free.
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It's included in your
basic membership.
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I always thought that
the inverse calisthenics,
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these sit-ups upside
down and increasing
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the overall circulation, that
if you look at the ancients,
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they're saying
yoga, Tai Chi, it's
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all about building circulation.
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It's about flexibility,
all that kind of stuff.
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So do you think that
these kinds of exercises
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will be beneficial to
people if they want
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to develop their intuition?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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And they were also teaching
us Tai Chi type stuff.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: And it also had to
do with a lot of visualization
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during the same
time, of visualizing
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spherical energetic balls
and making them travel
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and feeling them travel down
different parts of your body
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and passing them around
inside, throughout your body.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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It helps with oxygen
and blood flow,
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but also they were incorporating
us using it to move energy
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throughout our bodies.
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>>DAVID: Could you explain a
little more about what exactly
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you were supposed to witness?
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Was there a color to the sphere?
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Was there a size to it?
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How many of them
were there at once?
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Was it just one?
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>>GOODE: Just one.
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>>DAVID: Did they give you
any specifics about what
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it's supposed to look like?
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>>GOODE: Of our choosing.
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They just said, visualize a
sphere, an energetic sphere,
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and take the sphere in your hand
and then visualize it passing
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back and forth from your hand
and then travelling all the way
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through your shoulders
to the other hand.
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You would do that at first,
and then you would take it,
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and it would travel
down your spine
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and back up your spine up
through the top of your skull.
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And then you would visualize
it coming back down
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to your solar plexus and
coming out and catching it
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in your hands and then
circulating it again.
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It was a visual exercise, a
mental and visual exercise,
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of passing this ball of
energy throughout your body
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and also feeling it.
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>>DAVID: Could this just be
done in a standing position,
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or were there Tai
Chi type of movements
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that were associated with
the movement of the sphere?
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>>GOODE: You were moving
your hands and body
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and visualizing it
as you were doing it.
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You weren't sitting
in a static position
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as if you were meditating.
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>>DAVID: Well, there
definitely appear
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to be Tai Chi moves
that are associated
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with a sphere of
energy like that.
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So could the sphere be like
this big in certain cases,
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or is it more small,
like about that big?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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We were visualizing
small spheres.
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>>DAVID: OK.
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But there was no color, like
blue or white or anything like?
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>>GOODE: Usually like a
light bulb, just white.
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>>DAVID: White light?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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>>DAVID: How similar is what
people see as Tai Chi now?
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Because most people
seem to be doing
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the same set of movements.
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Would you say those
movements were
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the same as what you were doing,
or were they somehow different?
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>>GOODE: Very many of
them are quite the same.
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>>DAVID: Oh.
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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And most people that
are doing Tai Chi
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know that they're
doing energetic work
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at the same time.
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People that have
practiced it long enough
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know that they're
doing energetic work.
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>>DAVID: I've never been
able to find it online,
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but there's a PBS video
with Bill Moyers where
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he's got a Tai Chi master.
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And the guy's standing
there, and people
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come running towards him.
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And they're yelling
and screaming,
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and they literally just
fly off of this guy.
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What's going on there?
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I mean, these people
seem to be getting hit
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with something energetically.
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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Some of these people
were demonstrating
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how they could throw
these energy balls
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and put dents in metal.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: And these people
were really developed.
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>>DAVID: When you say
"these people" now--
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>>GOODE: The people
that were teaching us
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that were really advanced.
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>>DAVID: Are they
space program people?
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Are they extraterrestrial
human types?
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>>GOODE: No.
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This was back in
the My Lab program.
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These were the just
Black Ops types
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that were teaching
the younger people.
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>>DAVID: They could dent
metal with these spheres
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that they created?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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Well, with the energy.
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A sphere did not shoot out, but
they were visualizing a sphere,
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and they would shoot it out.
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And these people
were the ones that
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believed very much in the "Star
Wars" Jedi kind of-- the force.
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And you wrote a book,
"The Source Field."
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And they harnessed,
I guess, what
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you would call the "dark
side" of the source field,
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or the dark side of the force.
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And they were very
much into really
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stuff straight out of
"Star Wars," like Jedi--
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I mean, like the Dark Lord
Sith kind of magic energy
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that they pulled from the
ether or the universe.
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>>DAVID: Well, this
gets into another thing
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that Danny was telling me.
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I'm really interested
to hear where you're
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going to say about
this-- explosive muscle
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movements, martial arts,
this kind of stuff.
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Apparently-- and
there's a Tai Chi guy
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that Pete Petersen
knows, and he's really
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about this kind of very
intense tensing of the hands
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and the fingers like this.
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What Danny was told
in this training
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was that these intense violent
muscle movements-- something
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having to do with
adrenaline-- that adrenaline
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is like a magic energy
conduit, and that you
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can't get these
abilities by just
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doing smooth, gentle exercise.
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Push-ups, weightlifting, martial
arts-- this kind of stuff
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is essential.
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Did you ever hear or
anything like that yourself?
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>>GOODE: A lot of these
guys that were doing this,
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I didn't see any
sign of adrenaline.
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They seemed totally at
ease, at peace, and docile.
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It just seemed
effortless for them,
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and there was no [groaning]
kind of a thing going on.
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It was just real smooth
motion kind of a thing.
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Obviously, they were acting as
some sort of antenna pulling
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energy from the source field,
I guess you would call it.
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>>DAVID: So in Tai Chi, from
what little I know of it--
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and actually, you're
making me want
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to go start these videos right
away, interestingly enough,
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because it's finally making
sense to me why you would want
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to practice this--
they seem to always
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be big on-- I've had some
martial arts training,
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so bending your knees, lowering
your center of gravity,
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and they talk about the hara, or
the tan tien, this sort of area
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in your abdomen
that you're supposed
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to feel like there's a string
or an energetic cord coming up
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from the earth.
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It's sort of like you're
pulling energy out of the Earth.
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Was that part of the training,
to ground in that way with
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bending your knees?
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>>GOODE: There was a
grounding aspect mentioned
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of visualizing yourself grounded
with the center of the Earth,
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and also visualizing
yourself as an antenna
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that can pull in and push out
energy, this background energy,
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of the cosmos.
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>>DAVID: Daniel, in
his training, one
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of the things they
also taught him
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was that it is the Earth
that empowers magical work
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and that the earth has
to authorize you to do
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these things, that your
energy when you start
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to be able to develop these
feats of consciousness,
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you have to work with
the earth, and it
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will authorize the action.
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Was that something that you
encountered in your training?
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>>GOODE: Well, we were taught
a little bit beyond that.
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It all had to do
with the cosmic web.
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The earth had a
relationship with the sun.
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The sun had a relationship
with the local star cluster.
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The local star cluster
had a relationship
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with the center of the galaxy.
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The galaxy had a relationship
with the local galaxy cluster
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and so on and so on.
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>>DAVID: So what are
some of the other things
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that they taught you for
the intuitive training?
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>>GOODE: There were a lot
of other types of scenarios
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that they would put
us through, including
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virtual reality, which
often were very disturbing.
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They would put you, by
yourself or you and your team,
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in a virtual reality scenario.
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And this was such an
immersed virtual reality
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scenario that you had
smells, tastes, feel.
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You could feel wind.
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>>DAVID: Did you know once
you were in it that you
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were in a virtual reality?
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>>GOODE: That was
part of the test.
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You would be put into a
very horrific situation
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sometimes or asked to do
very horrific things, put
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into battle situations
with unpleasant type beings
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that you would have to fight.
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And you would have to rely
more and more on your intuition
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to win.
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If you just were
relying on martial arts
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or tactical training,
you could never win.
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But when you would rely on
your intuitive abilities,
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you were able to win.
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And then at that point, it
was almost like a lucid dream.
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You would realize you
were in a virtual world,
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and then you would
pull yourself out.
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>>DAVID: This sounds exactly
like the movie "Divergent,"
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where you have this girl, who is
thrown into a virtual reality,
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and she's the divergent one.
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She's the one that learns how
to break any virtual reality
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and get out of it.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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Ever since my first two audio
interviews hit the internet,
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I've heard that many times.
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>>DAVID: Also,
the movie "Ender's
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Game," where there's the
child in the space program,
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and they're teaching
these children
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to fight extraterrestrials
and pilot ships.
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He realizes early along
he's getting thrown
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into virtual
reality simulations,
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that they want him to be
as sociopathic as possible.
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And so instead of cooperating
with these beings that
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are trying to give
him a challenge,
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he'll like rip its
eye out or something.
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Is this the kind of stuff that
those movies seem to be related
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to what you're experiencing?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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They were not only training us,
but they were psychologically
489
00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:31,924
profiling us as well, to
see what type of orders
490
00:27:32,018 --> 00:27:35,288
we would follow,
how far we would go.
491
00:27:35,387 --> 00:27:43,027
They wanted to know who
were sociopaths, who would
492
00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:45,329
follow certain types of orders.
493
00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,941
There were orders--
[sighs] Yeah.
494
00:27:49,035 --> 00:27:50,235
>>DAVID: Really horrible stuff.
495
00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:51,996
>>GOODE: Really horrible
stuff that I don't
496
00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,774
want to talk about on camera.
497
00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:58,814
You would see your
somewhat friends,
498
00:27:58,911 --> 00:28:03,181
but team members,
taking part in and you
499
00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:07,322
ordered to take part
in, and you would
500
00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:14,189
have to make the moral choice
or dilemma whether to follow
501
00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:18,773
the peer pressure, do what
the others were doing,
502
00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:22,465
or to not do it.
503
00:28:22,568 --> 00:28:24,998
>>DAVID: What were some
of the monstrosities
504
00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:28,984
that they had you fight, if
you can tell us some of that?
505
00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:31,475
I don't want you to dredge up
a whole lot of nasty memories,
506
00:28:31,577 --> 00:28:32,847
but--
507
00:28:32,945 --> 00:28:34,405
>>GOODE: They had
a very good insight
508
00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:37,623
into what you did not like.
509
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:38,946
>>DAVID: Ah.
510
00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:42,321
So it was like they deliberately
target what you fear most?
511
00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:45,021
>>GOODE: They would
target your fears.
512
00:28:45,124 --> 00:28:50,404
Obviously, I did not
like spiders, apparently,
513
00:28:50,496 --> 00:28:57,366
so I did battle with
very large spiders.
514
00:28:57,469 --> 00:29:02,979
I did battle with
reptilian type beings.
515
00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:05,235
>>DAVID: And there's no way
to tell that it's not real
516
00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:06,014
when you're in it?
517
00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:06,652
>>GOODE: Right.
518
00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:12,151
It gets to a point where
it's hard to tell what's real
519
00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:13,821
and what's not.
520
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,460
And once you finally get to a
point in your intuitive empath
521
00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:22,387
training to where
you consistently
522
00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:30,904
are able to tell that you're put
in a virtual reality setting,
523
00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:34,613
then you have somewhat
graduated to a new level.
524
00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:37,336
>>DAVID: You had mentioned
to me in another conversation
525
00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:39,813
sometimes it was like
professional wrestler types,
526
00:29:39,912 --> 00:29:42,752
like big strong men that
you'd have to fight.
527
00:29:42,849 --> 00:29:45,279
>>GOODE: Mmm-hmm.
528
00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,624
And you're a kid.
529
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,160
>>DAVID: But it's sort of
like a bad dream, right?
530
00:29:51,257 --> 00:29:54,457
You don't remember getting
into it, but once you're in it,
531
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,960
it just seems like
this is your reality.
532
00:29:57,063 --> 00:29:58,563
>>GOODE: You would
be in a scenario
533
00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:04,374
to where you are being
put into the scenario that
534
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:06,540
seemed logical.
535
00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:11,808
And then you're in the
scenario, and you've
536
00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:14,811
got to fight your way
out of the scenario
537
00:30:14,914 --> 00:30:17,884
or figure your way
out of the scenario.
538
00:30:17,984 --> 00:30:24,394
And the only way to
do so successfully
539
00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:28,190
was in an intuitive way.
540
00:30:28,294 --> 00:30:30,064
>>DAVID: Could you get
a little more specific
541
00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:32,702
as to how that would
actually play out?
542
00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:34,398
Because otherwise,
we're just going
543
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,240
to have to fill in
what we think and not
544
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:37,435
really know what you mean.
545
00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:45,206
>>GOODE: Well, if you were
fighting another person,
546
00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:48,811
you would then
instead of relying
547
00:30:48,915 --> 00:30:53,785
on the martial arts or
the tactical training,
548
00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:59,226
you would then lock in
on the person's eyes
549
00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:03,495
and make a connection with
them and then intuitively
550
00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:08,395
know what they're going to
do before they would do it.
551
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:09,500
That was one step.
552
00:31:09,601 --> 00:31:11,301
And when you were able
to start doing that
553
00:31:11,403 --> 00:31:13,473
and then situations
would happen,
554
00:31:13,572 --> 00:31:15,742
you would intuitively know.
555
00:31:15,841 --> 00:31:19,881
When you were going
to clear a building,
556
00:31:19,979 --> 00:31:25,019
you intuitively know if
there were 12 rooms to clear,
557
00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:28,217
you begin to intuitively
know the first five
558
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,560
rooms were already
clear, and the sixth room
559
00:31:31,657 --> 00:31:35,087
was the room where
you had to engage.
560
00:31:35,194 --> 00:31:40,974
And then, once you started
reaching this point,
561
00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:43,767
it started to become easier
for you to intuit that you
562
00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:45,939
were in virtual reality.
563
00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:49,138
And from the very
beginning, when
564
00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:55,111
you were put in a landing zone
or put into the situation,
565
00:31:55,214 --> 00:32:01,024
you would immediately know
that it was a virtual reality,
566
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,060
and you would pull yourself out.
567
00:32:03,155 --> 00:32:07,985
>>DAVID: This is
interesting because who
568
00:32:08,094 --> 00:32:11,604
is doing the actions
in the virtual reality?
569
00:32:11,697 --> 00:32:13,167
In other words, if
you're psychically
570
00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:17,565
detecting how to fight
somebody, who is the somebody?
571
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:20,669
Is there a person controlling
who you're fighting?
572
00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:22,012
Is it a computer program?
573
00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:23,808
How does this actually work?
574
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:26,049
>>GOODE: They're pulling
information out of our heads
575
00:32:26,145 --> 00:32:29,175
and control them.
576
00:32:29,281 --> 00:32:33,391
They also had the ability
to put multiple people
577
00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:37,555
in the same virtual
reality scenario
578
00:32:37,656 --> 00:32:43,396
to where, at times, these people
were really there together.
579
00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,325
When you were engaging
with their mind,
580
00:32:46,432 --> 00:32:49,872
you were engaging with
their mind and their chair.
581
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:53,438
>>DAVID: When you're fighting
something like a tarantula,
582
00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:55,469
can there be a human
operator controlling
583
00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:57,144
the actions of the
tarantula, or is
584
00:32:57,243 --> 00:33:01,553
it a computer program like
an artificial intelligence?
585
00:33:01,647 --> 00:33:07,487
>>GOODE: This was just a
situation that was playing out
586
00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:08,646
in the virtual reality.
587
00:33:08,754 --> 00:33:11,664
I don't know if it was
artificial intelligence.
588
00:33:11,757 --> 00:33:14,257
It was very
high-tech, and I know
589
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,100
that they were mirroring
a lot of information
590
00:33:18,197 --> 00:33:21,997
out of your psyche into
the virtual reality.
591
00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:27,141
>>DAVID: If a technology like
this could be done at all,
592
00:33:27,239 --> 00:33:29,679
undoubtedly some people are
going to start thinking about
593
00:33:29,775 --> 00:33:32,535
stuff like "The Matrix"
and wonder how much of all
594
00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:39,424
of our reality is a simulation
or is somehow a virtual,
595
00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:42,288
greater compartmentalized
part of--
596
00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:43,658
>>GOODE: Row, row,
row your boat.
597
00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:46,385
Life is but a dream.
598
00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:49,062
>>DAVID: Do you think
that ultimately,
599
00:33:49,161 --> 00:33:51,731
if we're looking at
the fact that we only
600
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,800
remember one
lifetime, and then it
601
00:33:53,899 --> 00:33:58,899
seems that we have an afterlife
and reincarnation that our life
602
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:01,444
here is sort of like a
simulation, every time
603
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:04,110
we wake up from sleep
that we're jumping back
604
00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,210
into this hologram?
605
00:34:06,312 --> 00:34:09,852
>>GOODE: That's probably
a good way to put it.
606
00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:14,918
But we're definitely, from what
I was told by the Blue Avians,
607
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:19,730
since we're spiritual
children still when we die,
608
00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:25,095
we're not living long enough
to spiritually develop.
609
00:34:25,197 --> 00:34:29,297
It's taking us multiple
lifetimes to learn the lessons
610
00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:32,771
and to spiritually
develop to a point
611
00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:38,081
to where we can graduate to
become higher density beings.
612
00:34:38,177 --> 00:34:39,577
>>DAVID: Well,
you've heard it here.
613
00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:41,078
This is "Cosmic Disclosure."
614
00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:44,320
Very mind-blowing information,
and there's much, much more
615
00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:45,876
where this came from.
616
00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:48,394
We have 52 episodes,
and we may even
617
00:34:48,487 --> 00:34:49,887
be doing more past that point.
618
00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,618
So every week, you're going to
be hearing fascinating stuff
619
00:34:52,724 --> 00:34:53,334
like this.
620
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:54,825
So please stay tuned.
621
00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:58,926
I'm your host, David Wilcock,
and we thank you for watching.
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