1 00:00:15,183 --> 00:00:17,093 >>DAVID WILCOCK: Welcome to "Cosmic Disclosure." 2 00:00:17,185 --> 00:00:21,355 I'm your host, David Wilcock, and I'm here with Corey Goode, 3 00:00:21,455 --> 00:00:24,055 an insider who has come forward claiming 4 00:00:24,158 --> 00:00:26,428 to be from the secret space program 5 00:00:26,527 --> 00:00:31,667 having access to extraordinarily classified information, much 6 00:00:31,765 --> 00:00:35,565 of which is completely new to even the most seasoned veterans 7 00:00:35,669 --> 00:00:41,039 who have studied UFOs, insider testimony, classified intel, 8 00:00:41,142 --> 00:00:42,982 all this kind of stuff. 9 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:46,747 In this episode, we're going to delve into one of the subjects 10 00:00:46,847 --> 00:00:50,247 that you have consistently told us, in your comments 11 00:00:50,351 --> 00:00:54,591 and by what you've watched on the internet of my videos, 12 00:00:54,688 --> 00:00:57,688 is the most fascinating subject for you. 13 00:00:57,791 --> 00:01:02,531 I'm talking about the glandula pinealis, or the pineal gland. 14 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:04,200 So Corey, welcome back to the show. 15 00:01:04,298 --> 00:01:05,728 >>COREY GOODE: Thank you. 16 00:01:05,833 --> 00:01:11,513 >>DAVID: Could you, in your own words, explain for our audience 17 00:01:11,605 --> 00:01:15,675 what you heard about the pineal gland. 18 00:01:15,776 --> 00:01:18,176 What is it? 19 00:01:18,279 --> 00:01:21,749 Does it have a function for us? 20 00:01:21,849 --> 00:01:24,589 What is the pineal gland? 21 00:01:24,685 --> 00:01:27,815 >>GOODE: When I was in my lab program 22 00:01:27,921 --> 00:01:32,191 and I was identified as an intuitive empath, 23 00:01:32,293 --> 00:01:38,633 they were giving us injections and sonic treatments 24 00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:40,802 right here. 25 00:01:40,901 --> 00:01:42,101 >>DAVID: Injections where? 26 00:01:42,203 --> 00:01:43,173 >>GOODE: In our shoulders. 27 00:01:43,271 --> 00:01:44,971 >>DAVID: OK. 28 00:01:45,072 --> 00:01:47,542 >>GOODE: And our hips. 29 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:50,081 When we were younger, they'd give us injections in our hips. 30 00:01:50,178 --> 00:01:52,408 When we got older, they would give them in our shoulder. 31 00:01:52,513 --> 00:01:54,183 >>DAVID: That sounds painful. 32 00:01:54,282 --> 00:01:57,252 >>GOODE: You get used to it. 33 00:01:57,351 --> 00:02:01,791 And then there was just a metal kind of rod 34 00:02:01,889 --> 00:02:03,889 that came to a point that they would 35 00:02:03,991 --> 00:02:08,831 put right here that would send sonic waves 36 00:02:08,929 --> 00:02:11,999 to the pineal gland. 37 00:02:12,099 --> 00:02:16,899 And they said it was to enhance-- 38 00:02:17,004 --> 00:02:22,744 not the empath but the intuitive part of our intuitive empath 39 00:02:22,843 --> 00:02:24,083 abilities. 40 00:02:24,178 --> 00:02:26,208 >>DAVID: Could you feel a sonic vibration in your skull 41 00:02:26,314 --> 00:02:26,914 from it? 42 00:02:27,014 --> 00:02:28,484 >>GOODE: Yeah. 43 00:02:28,582 --> 00:02:37,862 You felt the sonic waves going in about a good six inches 44 00:02:37,958 --> 00:02:42,358 back into your head. 45 00:02:42,463 --> 00:02:42,903 >>DAVID: Wow. 46 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:43,926 >>GOODE: Yeah. 47 00:02:44,031 --> 00:02:46,001 So it was obviously important to them 48 00:02:46,099 --> 00:02:50,239 to stimulate the pineal gland. 49 00:02:50,338 --> 00:02:51,638 >>DAVID: Well, in the scholarship 50 00:02:51,739 --> 00:02:53,469 that I've put out in "Source Field," 51 00:02:53,574 --> 00:02:55,984 there's a whole chapter on the pineal gland. 52 00:02:56,076 --> 00:02:58,576 We know it's in the geometric center of the brain. 53 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:00,509 We know it's the size of a pea. 54 00:03:00,614 --> 00:03:03,424 It has more blood flow going through it than any other part 55 00:03:03,517 --> 00:03:05,417 of the body except the kidneys. 56 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:07,419 And mainstream science says, oh, we don't really 57 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,421 know what this thing is. 58 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:13,093 But there are cells inside the pineal gland that actually 59 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:17,833 are the same cells more or less as in the retina of the eye. 60 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:18,871 >>GOODE: Rods and cones? 61 00:03:18,966 --> 00:03:20,396 >>DAVID: They're called pinealocytes, 62 00:03:20,501 --> 00:03:21,971 but they're the same thing. 63 00:03:22,069 --> 00:03:24,439 And they're also wired into the visual cortex of the brain 64 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:27,838 by the same type of wiring that we have from our eyes. 65 00:03:27,941 --> 00:03:31,811 So the ancient traditions literally call it a third eye. 66 00:03:31,912 --> 00:03:35,222 And in my videos-- and we have this coming up in future 67 00:03:35,316 --> 00:03:39,446 episodes of "Wisdom Teachings"-- there's pine cones and that 68 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:42,493 kind of iconography showing up in all different world 69 00:03:42,590 --> 00:03:44,490 religions. 70 00:03:44,592 --> 00:03:47,632 So do you think that there's something happening 71 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:51,468 inside the pineal gland that these little rods and cones are 72 00:03:51,565 --> 00:03:51,965 seeing? 73 00:03:54,702 --> 00:03:58,242 >>GOODE: Well, they said it was to help stimulate 74 00:03:58,339 --> 00:04:04,579 the second sight and the intuitive abilities, 75 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:09,978 and they stated that they knew that there are ancient earth 76 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:14,253 breakaway groups that they've gotten their hands on who 77 00:04:14,355 --> 00:04:18,525 have very large pineal glands. 78 00:04:18,626 --> 00:04:19,756 >>DAVID: Oh, really? 79 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:23,730 >>GOODE: And they said that at one time, all of us, 80 00:04:23,831 --> 00:04:28,901 our pineal glands used to be quite a bit larger than they 81 00:04:29,002 --> 00:04:30,902 are now. 82 00:04:31,004 --> 00:04:36,684 And they were trying to stimulate growth and activity 83 00:04:36,777 --> 00:04:38,677 in our pineal glands. 84 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:40,279 >>DAVID: Well, that's very interesting, 85 00:04:40,381 --> 00:04:44,321 because the insider Jacob told me 86 00:04:44,418 --> 00:04:48,958 that the Draco tried to engineer modern humans so that we would 87 00:04:49,056 --> 00:04:51,586 not have a pineal gland at all. 88 00:04:51,692 --> 00:04:54,332 And they got very mad, because benevolent ETs 89 00:04:54,428 --> 00:04:56,558 came in and reinstalled it. 90 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:01,097 Have you ever heard of anything like that? 91 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:03,071 >>GOODE: Mm-mm. 92 00:05:03,170 --> 00:05:04,040 >>DAVID: OK. 93 00:05:04,137 --> 00:05:05,167 >>GOODE: I actually heard that it 94 00:05:05,272 --> 00:05:10,782 was a part of the grand experiment from these 22 95 00:05:10,878 --> 00:05:18,518 different genetic experiments from these 40 groups. 96 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:23,519 This experiment was not only genetic in nature, 97 00:05:23,624 --> 00:05:26,534 but it was also spiritual in nature 98 00:05:26,627 --> 00:05:34,637 and that they were trying to enhance us in a spiritual way 99 00:05:34,735 --> 00:05:42,605 and that the pineal gland-- and something also 100 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:45,650 to do with our light body was something 101 00:05:45,746 --> 00:05:48,416 that they were manipulating to try 102 00:05:48,516 --> 00:05:59,726 to help us become more spiritual and more developed in that way. 103 00:05:59,827 --> 00:06:07,437 Now, they are obviously at odds with this Draco Alliance group. 104 00:06:07,535 --> 00:06:09,795 >>DAVID: So that would imply that the Super Federation is 105 00:06:09,903 --> 00:06:12,043 not all negative, that they are-- 106 00:06:12,139 --> 00:06:13,039 >>GOODE: Yeah. 107 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:15,240 Like I said, it's all point of view. 108 00:06:15,342 --> 00:06:21,212 They have their agendas and why they're manipulating us the way 109 00:06:21,314 --> 00:06:22,454 they're doing. 110 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:25,890 >>DAVID: We've had multiple insiders suggest 111 00:06:25,986 --> 00:06:29,286 that when you see the halo around someone 112 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,559 in these ancient pictures-- or in Buddhist illustrations, 113 00:06:32,660 --> 00:06:36,130 it's more like a corona-- that that would indicate 114 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:38,329 a pineal gland that's much more active, 115 00:06:38,432 --> 00:06:40,972 and that there's some sort of light phenomena. 116 00:06:41,068 --> 00:06:42,568 Did you ever see anything like that? 117 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:44,400 >>GOODE: Well, when I was talking just now 118 00:06:44,505 --> 00:06:49,275 about our light bodies, the exercises 119 00:06:49,376 --> 00:06:56,076 they put us through were to not only activate our pineals, 120 00:06:56,183 --> 00:07:01,423 but to expand our light bodies to where they would say 121 00:07:01,522 --> 00:07:06,732 that when they got us to the point where they wanted us, 122 00:07:06,827 --> 00:07:09,127 we would be sitting in a room and our light bodies 123 00:07:09,229 --> 00:07:13,299 would expand past the walls of the room that we were in. 124 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,540 >>DAVID: Wow. 125 00:07:14,635 --> 00:07:18,305 >>GOODE: So there is obviously a direct connection 126 00:07:18,405 --> 00:07:22,135 with the pineal gland and the development and expansion 127 00:07:22,242 --> 00:07:23,942 of your light body. 128 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:26,454 >>DAVID: I want to get back to those exercises in a minute, 129 00:07:26,547 --> 00:07:30,247 but first I want to bring in another interesting point. 130 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:34,090 I've had at least four different insiders tell me 131 00:07:34,187 --> 00:07:39,057 that if our pineal gland is even partly activated-- never 132 00:07:39,159 --> 00:07:42,129 mind fully activated-- that we could literally 133 00:07:42,229 --> 00:07:44,929 fly throughout the cosmos. 134 00:07:45,032 --> 00:07:48,272 Do you feel that it is somehow a stargate, 135 00:07:48,368 --> 00:07:51,068 like a portable biological stargate built 136 00:07:51,171 --> 00:07:54,371 into our body just like hardware that we haven't accessed yet? 137 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:55,714 >>GOODE: Yeah. 138 00:07:55,809 --> 00:08:00,309 A lot of beings use the pineal gland and their light body 139 00:08:00,413 --> 00:08:03,883 to project their consciousness and their selves 140 00:08:03,984 --> 00:08:12,534 to other physical locations and then send that information back 141 00:08:12,626 --> 00:08:16,056 through that connection to their physical bodies, 142 00:08:16,163 --> 00:08:19,773 and then change the vibration of their physical bodies 143 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:23,937 to match the vibration of the location they're at. 144 00:08:24,037 --> 00:08:28,137 And then the body teleports to that location 145 00:08:28,241 --> 00:08:34,311 and rejoins the consciousness or what some people are saying 146 00:08:34,414 --> 00:08:36,424 are having of out-of-body experiences 147 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:40,116 or projecting their minds-- a lot 148 00:08:40,220 --> 00:08:45,630 of different terminology for what these more advanced beings 149 00:08:45,726 --> 00:08:46,426 are doing. 150 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:47,556 >>DAVID: I'm just curious. 151 00:08:47,661 --> 00:08:50,401 Do you think-- because this is a speculation 152 00:08:50,497 --> 00:08:53,097 I've had-- that the halo is actually 153 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,570 the mouth of a wormhole and that you get gravitationally 154 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:59,710 pulled up into the mouth when your pineal gland is open? 155 00:08:59,807 --> 00:09:03,177 You can fly up into that halo and travel through it? 156 00:09:03,276 --> 00:09:08,276 >>GOODE: I think that these depictions of halos and auras 157 00:09:08,381 --> 00:09:12,521 that they've shown around people are just 158 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:18,830 people that have really highly developed their light bodies 159 00:09:18,926 --> 00:09:23,126 and their pineal glands and developed their selves 160 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:28,670 in a very intuitive, spiritual way, 161 00:09:28,769 --> 00:09:34,209 and that's the way that they've been depicted in art. 162 00:09:34,307 --> 00:09:39,477 And people that have also developed their light bodies 163 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:44,379 in this way have a second sight and are also 164 00:09:44,484 --> 00:09:48,764 able to see other people's light bodies. 165 00:09:48,856 --> 00:09:51,516 >>DAVID: Now, in Tibet they actually 166 00:09:51,625 --> 00:09:56,795 will have a long, thin, sharp piece of wood or something 167 00:09:56,897 --> 00:09:59,097 that they stick through somebody's forehead, 168 00:09:59,199 --> 00:10:02,569 and they wound the pineal gland a little bit with it. 169 00:10:02,670 --> 00:10:09,210 And that supposedly creates some kind of access. 170 00:10:09,309 --> 00:10:12,279 Do you think that they might be doing a more technological form 171 00:10:12,379 --> 00:10:15,449 of something like that with this sonic gun that they gave you? 172 00:10:15,548 --> 00:10:16,978 >>GOODE: They're trying to find a way 173 00:10:17,084 --> 00:10:19,794 to stimulate the pineal gland. 174 00:10:19,887 --> 00:10:21,187 >>DAVID: How did it feel when you 175 00:10:21,288 --> 00:10:23,058 were getting this treatment? 176 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:25,556 What was your experience? 177 00:10:25,659 --> 00:10:27,759 >>GOODE: You would have out-of-body experiences. 178 00:10:27,861 --> 00:10:28,431 >>DAVID: Really? 179 00:10:28,528 --> 00:10:29,398 >>GOODE: Yeah. 180 00:10:29,496 --> 00:10:30,926 You would fill your light body grow. 181 00:10:31,031 --> 00:10:33,631 You would feel yourself growing in all directions 182 00:10:33,734 --> 00:10:35,974 outside of your body. 183 00:10:36,069 --> 00:10:38,239 Sometimes you would feel yourself knocked outside 184 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:39,968 of your body behind yourself. 185 00:10:40,073 --> 00:10:41,983 >>DAVID: Wow. 186 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:43,375 >>GOODE: But at the same time, you 187 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:48,016 would feel locally what was going on in your body, 188 00:10:48,115 --> 00:10:56,085 the sonic vibration going on into the wet brain 189 00:10:56,189 --> 00:11:01,559 matter behind your skull. 190 00:11:01,661 --> 00:11:04,261 >>DAVID: Well, I did an episode on "Wisdom Teachings" with Dr. 191 00:11:04,364 --> 00:11:06,304 Michael Persinger, who has something 192 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:08,469 he calls the "God helmet." 193 00:11:08,568 --> 00:11:12,108 And they've got these very powerful magnetic guns 194 00:11:12,205 --> 00:11:14,705 that he can triangulate and aim into certain parts 195 00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:16,178 of the brain. 196 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:18,146 He can create extreme panic and fear. 197 00:11:18,245 --> 00:11:19,305 He can make you sweat. 198 00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:22,152 He can create sexual arousal. 199 00:11:22,249 --> 00:11:24,819 And there are certain parts of the brain 200 00:11:24,918 --> 00:11:29,788 that he beams it into where people have a god experience. 201 00:11:29,890 --> 00:11:34,930 Now, the skeptics love to bring Persinger in and say 202 00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:38,268 that this is proof that there's no greater reality, 203 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:43,665 that these visionary experiences are just a brain firing. 204 00:11:43,771 --> 00:11:46,141 But to me, it sounds like what Persinger's 205 00:11:46,239 --> 00:11:48,079 doing with the God helmet is similar to what 206 00:11:48,175 --> 00:11:51,005 you're saying with sound waves. 207 00:11:51,111 --> 00:11:52,281 >>GOODE: Yeah, sounds like it. 208 00:11:52,379 --> 00:11:59,119 Electromagnetic waves were also used on us at times. 209 00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:01,249 >>DAVID: So do you think that anyone 210 00:12:01,354 --> 00:12:04,124 given this kind of a treatment would have an experience 211 00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:06,164 like you had, or was it because you 212 00:12:06,259 --> 00:12:08,199 were prepared for with your intuitive training? 213 00:12:08,295 --> 00:12:10,155 >>GOODE: I think they would have it. 214 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:14,573 They would have some sort of an experience. 215 00:12:14,667 --> 00:12:19,237 I at a young age was already having out-of-body experiences 216 00:12:19,339 --> 00:12:23,739 and weird experiences. 217 00:12:23,844 --> 00:12:28,324 I mean, we would go on long car trips, and I would get bored, 218 00:12:28,415 --> 00:12:33,345 and I would project myself outside of the car. 219 00:12:33,453 --> 00:12:38,193 And I would project myself out and fly over the signs 220 00:12:38,291 --> 00:12:41,661 and over the hills and look back at the car 221 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:48,341 and fly and have an out-of-body experience going on long trips. 222 00:12:48,435 --> 00:12:51,805 I was already doing that at a very young age. 223 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:55,405 >>DAVID: My insider Daniel went through this intuitive 224 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:57,678 training for what he called the Psy Corps. 225 00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:58,947 >>GOODE: Right. 226 00:12:59,046 --> 00:13:02,546 >>DAVID: And it was supposedly derived from the CIA, 227 00:13:02,649 --> 00:13:05,319 or so he was told. 228 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:08,318 And I want to kind of go through some of the things 229 00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:10,961 that he said they taught him and then see how that 230 00:13:11,058 --> 00:13:12,458 compares with your training. 231 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,899 So number one was inverse calisthenics. 232 00:13:16,997 --> 00:13:22,437 They had him hang upside down, by his knees or by his ankles, 233 00:13:22,535 --> 00:13:24,335 and do sit-ups. 234 00:13:24,437 --> 00:13:29,137 And they were told that the more oxygen was in his blood 235 00:13:29,242 --> 00:13:32,682 and the more blood flowed through his pineal gland, 236 00:13:32,779 --> 00:13:34,549 that if they could strengthen the circulation 237 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:37,717 into the pineal gland in the body in general, 238 00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:40,247 that that would enhance his abilities. 239 00:13:40,353 --> 00:13:42,263 Did you have anything similar to that? 240 00:13:42,355 --> 00:13:43,755 >>GOODE: The closest we had to that, 241 00:13:43,857 --> 00:13:49,127 they put us into pressure rooms that 242 00:13:49,229 --> 00:13:55,399 were highly pressurized and highly oxygenated. 243 00:13:55,502 --> 00:13:59,212 And they would have us do meditation, 244 00:13:59,306 --> 00:14:06,146 and they would hook up EEG-type electrodes to our heads. 245 00:14:06,246 --> 00:14:10,746 And they had trained us to go to different states, 246 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:12,620 including theta. 247 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:18,729 And they would, on command, tell you to go to a certain state, 248 00:14:18,825 --> 00:14:21,725 and they would measure how quickly you could go there 249 00:14:21,828 --> 00:14:27,998 at different atmospheric pressures and oxygen 250 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:30,771 levels inside this chamber. 251 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,340 >>DAVID: Do you think this was partly 252 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:35,409 intended to help you be able to function 253 00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:38,208 in different extraterrestrial environments? 254 00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:40,911 >>GOODE: This was all during the same time 255 00:14:41,014 --> 00:14:46,894 when-- this all had to do with intuitive empath enhancement. 256 00:14:46,987 --> 00:14:48,987 >>DAVID: Well here on Gaiam, we have 257 00:14:49,089 --> 00:14:51,259 a lot of yoga Tai Chi videos. 258 00:14:51,358 --> 00:14:55,298 And people can get into that when they're a subscriber. 259 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:56,355 It's all free. 260 00:14:56,463 --> 00:14:59,233 It's included in your basic membership. 261 00:14:59,332 --> 00:15:02,542 I always thought that the inverse calisthenics, 262 00:15:02,635 --> 00:15:04,565 these sit-ups upside down and increasing 263 00:15:04,671 --> 00:15:08,981 the overall circulation, that if you look at the ancients, 264 00:15:09,076 --> 00:15:11,806 they're saying yoga, Tai Chi, it's 265 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,451 all about building circulation. 266 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:15,676 It's about flexibility, all that kind of stuff. 267 00:15:15,782 --> 00:15:19,592 So do you think that these kinds of exercises 268 00:15:19,686 --> 00:15:21,286 will be beneficial to people if they want 269 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:22,988 to develop their intuition? 270 00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:24,220 >>GOODE: Yes. 271 00:15:24,324 --> 00:15:28,634 And they were also teaching us Tai Chi type stuff. 272 00:15:28,728 --> 00:15:29,998 >>DAVID: Really? 273 00:15:30,097 --> 00:15:34,667 >>GOODE: And it also had to do with a lot of visualization 274 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:39,267 during the same time, of visualizing 275 00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:47,182 spherical energetic balls and making them travel 276 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,380 and feeling them travel down different parts of your body 277 00:15:51,484 --> 00:15:56,394 and passing them around inside, throughout your body. 278 00:15:56,489 --> 00:15:57,989 >>DAVID: Wow. 279 00:15:58,091 --> 00:15:58,961 >>GOODE: Yeah. 280 00:15:59,059 --> 00:16:02,059 It helps with oxygen and blood flow, 281 00:16:02,162 --> 00:16:10,072 but also they were incorporating us using it to move energy 282 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:11,500 throughout our bodies. 283 00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:16,644 >>DAVID: Could you explain a little more about what exactly 284 00:16:16,743 --> 00:16:19,183 you were supposed to witness? 285 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:20,749 Was there a color to the sphere? 286 00:16:20,847 --> 00:16:22,117 Was there a size to it? 287 00:16:22,215 --> 00:16:24,115 How many of them were there at once? 288 00:16:24,217 --> 00:16:24,917 Was it just one? 289 00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:26,888 >>GOODE: Just one. 290 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:29,016 >>DAVID: Did they give you any specifics about what 291 00:16:29,122 --> 00:16:31,462 it's supposed to look like? 292 00:16:31,558 --> 00:16:32,788 >>GOODE: Of our choosing. 293 00:16:32,892 --> 00:16:39,732 They just said, visualize a sphere, an energetic sphere, 294 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:45,672 and take the sphere in your hand and then visualize it passing 295 00:16:45,772 --> 00:16:49,412 back and forth from your hand and then travelling all the way 296 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:52,179 through your shoulders to the other hand. 297 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:56,379 You would do that at first, and then you would take it, 298 00:16:56,483 --> 00:17:00,093 and it would travel down your spine 299 00:17:00,187 --> 00:17:04,617 and back up your spine up through the top of your skull. 300 00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:07,934 And then you would visualize it coming back down 301 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:12,767 to your solar plexus and coming out and catching it 302 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:19,105 in your hands and then circulating it again. 303 00:17:19,206 --> 00:17:23,936 It was a visual exercise, a mental and visual exercise, 304 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:27,483 of passing this ball of energy throughout your body 305 00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:29,550 and also feeling it. 306 00:17:29,649 --> 00:17:31,879 >>DAVID: Could this just be done in a standing position, 307 00:17:31,984 --> 00:17:33,994 or were there Tai Chi type of movements 308 00:17:34,087 --> 00:17:38,557 that were associated with the movement of the sphere? 309 00:17:38,658 --> 00:17:42,398 >>GOODE: You were moving your hands and body 310 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:47,425 and visualizing it as you were doing it. 311 00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:51,474 You weren't sitting in a static position 312 00:17:51,571 --> 00:17:53,271 as if you were meditating. 313 00:17:53,373 --> 00:17:54,843 >>DAVID: Well, there definitely appear 314 00:17:54,941 --> 00:17:57,011 to be Tai Chi moves that are associated 315 00:17:57,110 --> 00:18:00,310 with a sphere of energy like that. 316 00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:02,653 So could the sphere be like this big in certain cases, 317 00:18:02,749 --> 00:18:04,519 or is it more small, like about that big? 318 00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:05,487 >>GOODE: Yeah. 319 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,945 We were visualizing small spheres. 320 00:18:08,054 --> 00:18:09,324 >>DAVID: OK. 321 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:13,032 But there was no color, like blue or white or anything like? 322 00:18:13,126 --> 00:18:18,056 >>GOODE: Usually like a light bulb, just white. 323 00:18:18,165 --> 00:18:18,925 >>DAVID: White light? 324 00:18:19,031 --> 00:18:20,231 >>GOODE: Yeah. 325 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:24,903 >>DAVID: How similar is what people see as Tai Chi now? 326 00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:26,744 Because most people seem to be doing 327 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:28,279 the same set of movements. 328 00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:29,705 Would you say those movements were 329 00:18:29,809 --> 00:18:33,249 the same as what you were doing, or were they somehow different? 330 00:18:33,346 --> 00:18:35,246 >>GOODE: Very many of them are quite the same. 331 00:18:35,348 --> 00:18:35,818 >>DAVID: Oh. 332 00:18:35,915 --> 00:18:36,845 >>GOODE: Yeah. 333 00:18:36,949 --> 00:18:38,949 And most people that are doing Tai Chi 334 00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:42,491 know that they're doing energetic work 335 00:18:42,589 --> 00:18:45,289 at the same time. 336 00:18:45,392 --> 00:18:48,202 People that have practiced it long enough 337 00:18:48,295 --> 00:18:50,995 know that they're doing energetic work. 338 00:18:51,097 --> 00:18:52,997 >>DAVID: I've never been able to find it online, 339 00:18:53,099 --> 00:18:55,469 but there's a PBS video with Bill Moyers where 340 00:18:55,568 --> 00:18:57,498 he's got a Tai Chi master. 341 00:18:57,604 --> 00:19:00,014 And the guy's standing there, and people 342 00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:01,036 come running towards him. 343 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,480 And they're yelling and screaming, 344 00:19:02,575 --> 00:19:05,805 and they literally just fly off of this guy. 345 00:19:05,912 --> 00:19:07,552 What's going on there? 346 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:09,547 I mean, these people seem to be getting hit 347 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:11,679 with something energetically. 348 00:19:11,784 --> 00:19:12,724 >>GOODE: Yeah. 349 00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:16,389 Some of these people were demonstrating 350 00:19:16,489 --> 00:19:19,729 how they could throw these energy balls 351 00:19:19,826 --> 00:19:23,726 and put dents in metal. 352 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:24,930 >>DAVID: Really? 353 00:19:25,031 --> 00:19:27,671 >>GOODE: And these people were really developed. 354 00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:29,397 >>DAVID: When you say "these people" now-- 355 00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:31,442 >>GOODE: The people that were teaching us 356 00:19:31,538 --> 00:19:32,808 that were really advanced. 357 00:19:32,905 --> 00:19:34,435 >>DAVID: Are they space program people? 358 00:19:34,541 --> 00:19:36,211 Are they extraterrestrial human types? 359 00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:37,209 >>GOODE: No. 360 00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:39,050 This was back in the My Lab program. 361 00:19:39,145 --> 00:19:43,815 These were the just Black Ops types 362 00:19:43,916 --> 00:19:46,216 that were teaching the younger people. 363 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:48,259 >>DAVID: They could dent metal with these spheres 364 00:19:48,355 --> 00:19:49,055 that they created? 365 00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:49,755 >>GOODE: Yes. 366 00:19:49,856 --> 00:19:51,956 Well, with the energy. 367 00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:56,298 A sphere did not shoot out, but they were visualizing a sphere, 368 00:19:56,396 --> 00:20:00,666 and they would shoot it out. 369 00:20:00,767 --> 00:20:02,767 And these people were the ones that 370 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:11,609 believed very much in the "Star Wars" Jedi kind of-- the force. 371 00:20:11,711 --> 00:20:15,821 And you wrote a book, "The Source Field." 372 00:20:15,915 --> 00:20:20,215 And they harnessed, I guess, what 373 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,790 you would call the "dark side" of the source field, 374 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:25,590 or the dark side of the force. 375 00:20:25,692 --> 00:20:30,162 And they were very much into really 376 00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:32,833 stuff straight out of "Star Wars," like Jedi-- 377 00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:41,512 I mean, like the Dark Lord Sith kind of magic energy 378 00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:44,978 that they pulled from the ether or the universe. 379 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,747 >>DAVID: Well, this gets into another thing 380 00:20:46,846 --> 00:20:47,846 that Danny was telling me. 381 00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:49,417 I'm really interested to hear where you're 382 00:20:49,516 --> 00:20:53,016 going to say about this-- explosive muscle 383 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,989 movements, martial arts, this kind of stuff. 384 00:20:58,090 --> 00:21:00,930 Apparently-- and there's a Tai Chi guy 385 00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:03,197 that Pete Petersen knows, and he's really 386 00:21:03,296 --> 00:21:07,226 about this kind of very intense tensing of the hands 387 00:21:07,334 --> 00:21:08,304 and the fingers like this. 388 00:21:10,937 --> 00:21:14,407 What Danny was told in this training 389 00:21:14,507 --> 00:21:17,537 was that these intense violent muscle movements-- something 390 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,684 having to do with adrenaline-- that adrenaline 391 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:25,280 is like a magic energy conduit, and that you 392 00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:27,785 can't get these abilities by just 393 00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:30,857 doing smooth, gentle exercise. 394 00:21:30,957 --> 00:21:34,127 Push-ups, weightlifting, martial arts-- this kind of stuff 395 00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:35,456 is essential. 396 00:21:35,562 --> 00:21:38,402 Did you ever hear or anything like that yourself? 397 00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:41,368 >>GOODE: A lot of these guys that were doing this, 398 00:21:41,468 --> 00:21:44,998 I didn't see any sign of adrenaline. 399 00:21:45,104 --> 00:21:52,684 They seemed totally at ease, at peace, and docile. 400 00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:56,349 It just seemed effortless for them, 401 00:21:56,449 --> 00:22:01,149 and there was no [groaning] kind of a thing going on. 402 00:22:01,253 --> 00:22:08,433 It was just real smooth motion kind of a thing. 403 00:22:08,528 --> 00:22:13,868 Obviously, they were acting as some sort of antenna pulling 404 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:19,236 energy from the source field, I guess you would call it. 405 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:23,638 >>DAVID: So in Tai Chi, from what little I know of it-- 406 00:22:23,743 --> 00:22:25,313 and actually, you're making me want 407 00:22:25,412 --> 00:22:29,382 to go start these videos right away, interestingly enough, 408 00:22:29,482 --> 00:22:32,892 because it's finally making sense to me why you would want 409 00:22:32,985 --> 00:22:37,315 to practice this-- they seem to always 410 00:22:37,424 --> 00:22:40,134 be big on-- I've had some martial arts training, 411 00:22:40,226 --> 00:22:46,226 so bending your knees, lowering your center of gravity, 412 00:22:46,332 --> 00:22:50,672 and they talk about the hara, or the tan tien, this sort of area 413 00:22:50,770 --> 00:22:53,340 in your abdomen that you're supposed 414 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,610 to feel like there's a string or an energetic cord coming up 415 00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:00,281 from the earth. 416 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,719 It's sort of like you're pulling energy out of the Earth. 417 00:23:03,816 --> 00:23:08,346 Was that part of the training, to ground in that way with 418 00:23:08,455 --> 00:23:09,785 bending your knees? 419 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:12,989 >>GOODE: There was a grounding aspect mentioned 420 00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:20,572 of visualizing yourself grounded with the center of the Earth, 421 00:23:20,667 --> 00:23:26,807 and also visualizing yourself as an antenna 422 00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:38,046 that can pull in and push out energy, this background energy, 423 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:40,090 of the cosmos. 424 00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:42,386 >>DAVID: Daniel, in his training, one 425 00:23:42,489 --> 00:23:44,459 of the things they also taught him 426 00:23:44,557 --> 00:23:50,527 was that it is the Earth that empowers magical work 427 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:53,970 and that the earth has to authorize you to do 428 00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:56,696 these things, that your energy when you start 429 00:23:56,803 --> 00:24:00,843 to be able to develop these feats of consciousness, 430 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:02,480 you have to work with the earth, and it 431 00:24:02,575 --> 00:24:05,505 will authorize the action. 432 00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:09,282 Was that something that you encountered in your training? 433 00:24:09,381 --> 00:24:13,621 >>GOODE: Well, we were taught a little bit beyond that. 434 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,860 It all had to do with the cosmic web. 435 00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:19,286 The earth had a relationship with the sun. 436 00:24:19,391 --> 00:24:23,601 The sun had a relationship with the local star cluster. 437 00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:25,456 The local star cluster had a relationship 438 00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:27,365 with the center of the galaxy. 439 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:34,636 The galaxy had a relationship with the local galaxy cluster 440 00:24:34,741 --> 00:24:36,941 and so on and so on. 441 00:24:37,043 --> 00:24:38,813 >>DAVID: So what are some of the other things 442 00:24:38,911 --> 00:24:42,851 that they taught you for the intuitive training? 443 00:24:42,949 --> 00:24:47,549 >>GOODE: There were a lot of other types of scenarios 444 00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:50,424 that they would put us through, including 445 00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:55,933 virtual reality, which often were very disturbing. 446 00:24:56,028 --> 00:25:02,268 They would put you, by yourself or you and your team, 447 00:25:02,368 --> 00:25:06,968 in a virtual reality scenario. 448 00:25:07,073 --> 00:25:10,113 And this was such an immersed virtual reality 449 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:15,919 scenario that you had smells, tastes, feel. 450 00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:17,575 You could feel wind. 451 00:25:17,684 --> 00:25:19,794 >>DAVID: Did you know once you were in it that you 452 00:25:19,886 --> 00:25:20,846 were in a virtual reality? 453 00:25:20,953 --> 00:25:23,223 >>GOODE: That was part of the test. 454 00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:26,992 You would be put into a very horrific situation 455 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:33,633 sometimes or asked to do very horrific things, put 456 00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:39,643 into battle situations with unpleasant type beings 457 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:41,909 that you would have to fight. 458 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:50,018 And you would have to rely more and more on your intuition 459 00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:53,846 to win. 460 00:25:53,953 --> 00:25:57,363 If you just were relying on martial arts 461 00:25:57,456 --> 00:26:03,756 or tactical training, you could never win. 462 00:26:03,863 --> 00:26:09,343 But when you would rely on your intuitive abilities, 463 00:26:09,435 --> 00:26:13,235 you were able to win. 464 00:26:13,339 --> 00:26:16,239 And then at that point, it was almost like a lucid dream. 465 00:26:16,342 --> 00:26:21,612 You would realize you were in a virtual world, 466 00:26:21,714 --> 00:26:25,654 and then you would pull yourself out. 467 00:26:25,752 --> 00:26:28,892 >>DAVID: This sounds exactly like the movie "Divergent," 468 00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:33,428 where you have this girl, who is thrown into a virtual reality, 469 00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:35,225 and she's the divergent one. 470 00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:40,827 She's the one that learns how to break any virtual reality 471 00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:42,303 and get out of it. 472 00:26:42,401 --> 00:26:43,671 >>GOODE: Right. 473 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:49,910 Ever since my first two audio interviews hit the internet, 474 00:26:50,009 --> 00:26:52,209 I've heard that many times. 475 00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:53,581 >>DAVID: Also, the movie "Ender's 476 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,680 Game," where there's the child in the space program, 477 00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,153 and they're teaching these children 478 00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:02,690 to fight extraterrestrials and pilot ships. 479 00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:05,159 He realizes early along he's getting thrown 480 00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:07,627 into virtual reality simulations, 481 00:27:07,727 --> 00:27:11,097 that they want him to be as sociopathic as possible. 482 00:27:11,197 --> 00:27:13,397 And so instead of cooperating with these beings that 483 00:27:13,499 --> 00:27:14,869 are trying to give him a challenge, 484 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:17,697 he'll like rip its eye out or something. 485 00:27:17,804 --> 00:27:22,414 Is this the kind of stuff that those movies seem to be related 486 00:27:22,508 --> 00:27:24,338 to what you're experiencing? 487 00:27:24,443 --> 00:27:25,753 >>GOODE: Yes. 488 00:27:25,845 --> 00:27:27,805 They were not only training us, but they were psychologically 489 00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:31,924 profiling us as well, to see what type of orders 490 00:27:32,018 --> 00:27:35,288 we would follow, how far we would go. 491 00:27:35,387 --> 00:27:43,027 They wanted to know who were sociopaths, who would 492 00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:45,329 follow certain types of orders. 493 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,941 There were orders-- [sighs] Yeah. 494 00:27:49,035 --> 00:27:50,235 >>DAVID: Really horrible stuff. 495 00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:51,996 >>GOODE: Really horrible stuff that I don't 496 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,774 want to talk about on camera. 497 00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:58,814 You would see your somewhat friends, 498 00:27:58,911 --> 00:28:03,181 but team members, taking part in and you 499 00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:07,322 ordered to take part in, and you would 500 00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:14,189 have to make the moral choice or dilemma whether to follow 501 00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:18,773 the peer pressure, do what the others were doing, 502 00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:22,465 or to not do it. 503 00:28:22,568 --> 00:28:24,998 >>DAVID: What were some of the monstrosities 504 00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:28,984 that they had you fight, if you can tell us some of that? 505 00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:31,475 I don't want you to dredge up a whole lot of nasty memories, 506 00:28:31,577 --> 00:28:32,847 but-- 507 00:28:32,945 --> 00:28:34,405 >>GOODE: They had a very good insight 508 00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:37,623 into what you did not like. 509 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:38,946 >>DAVID: Ah. 510 00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:42,321 So it was like they deliberately target what you fear most? 511 00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:45,021 >>GOODE: They would target your fears. 512 00:28:45,124 --> 00:28:50,404 Obviously, I did not like spiders, apparently, 513 00:28:50,496 --> 00:28:57,366 so I did battle with very large spiders. 514 00:28:57,469 --> 00:29:02,979 I did battle with reptilian type beings. 515 00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:05,235 >>DAVID: And there's no way to tell that it's not real 516 00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:06,014 when you're in it? 517 00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:06,652 >>GOODE: Right. 518 00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:12,151 It gets to a point where it's hard to tell what's real 519 00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:13,821 and what's not. 520 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,460 And once you finally get to a point in your intuitive empath 521 00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:22,387 training to where you consistently 522 00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:30,904 are able to tell that you're put in a virtual reality setting, 523 00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:34,613 then you have somewhat graduated to a new level. 524 00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:37,336 >>DAVID: You had mentioned to me in another conversation 525 00:29:37,443 --> 00:29:39,813 sometimes it was like professional wrestler types, 526 00:29:39,912 --> 00:29:42,752 like big strong men that you'd have to fight. 527 00:29:42,849 --> 00:29:45,279 >>GOODE: Mmm-hmm. 528 00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,624 And you're a kid. 529 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,160 >>DAVID: But it's sort of like a bad dream, right? 530 00:29:51,257 --> 00:29:54,457 You don't remember getting into it, but once you're in it, 531 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,960 it just seems like this is your reality. 532 00:29:57,063 --> 00:29:58,563 >>GOODE: You would be in a scenario 533 00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:04,374 to where you are being put into the scenario that 534 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:06,540 seemed logical. 535 00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:11,808 And then you're in the scenario, and you've 536 00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:14,811 got to fight your way out of the scenario 537 00:30:14,914 --> 00:30:17,884 or figure your way out of the scenario. 538 00:30:17,984 --> 00:30:24,394 And the only way to do so successfully 539 00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:28,190 was in an intuitive way. 540 00:30:28,294 --> 00:30:30,064 >>DAVID: Could you get a little more specific 541 00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:32,702 as to how that would actually play out? 542 00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:34,398 Because otherwise, we're just going 543 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,240 to have to fill in what we think and not 544 00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:37,435 really know what you mean. 545 00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:45,206 >>GOODE: Well, if you were fighting another person, 546 00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:48,811 you would then instead of relying 547 00:30:48,915 --> 00:30:53,785 on the martial arts or the tactical training, 548 00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:59,226 you would then lock in on the person's eyes 549 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:03,495 and make a connection with them and then intuitively 550 00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:08,395 know what they're going to do before they would do it. 551 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:09,500 That was one step. 552 00:31:09,601 --> 00:31:11,301 And when you were able to start doing that 553 00:31:11,403 --> 00:31:13,473 and then situations would happen, 554 00:31:13,572 --> 00:31:15,742 you would intuitively know. 555 00:31:15,841 --> 00:31:19,881 When you were going to clear a building, 556 00:31:19,979 --> 00:31:25,019 you intuitively know if there were 12 rooms to clear, 557 00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:28,217 you begin to intuitively know the first five 558 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,560 rooms were already clear, and the sixth room 559 00:31:31,657 --> 00:31:35,087 was the room where you had to engage. 560 00:31:35,194 --> 00:31:40,974 And then, once you started reaching this point, 561 00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:43,767 it started to become easier for you to intuit that you 562 00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:45,939 were in virtual reality. 563 00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:49,138 And from the very beginning, when 564 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:55,111 you were put in a landing zone or put into the situation, 565 00:31:55,214 --> 00:32:01,024 you would immediately know that it was a virtual reality, 566 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,060 and you would pull yourself out. 567 00:32:03,155 --> 00:32:07,985 >>DAVID: This is interesting because who 568 00:32:08,094 --> 00:32:11,604 is doing the actions in the virtual reality? 569 00:32:11,697 --> 00:32:13,167 In other words, if you're psychically 570 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:17,565 detecting how to fight somebody, who is the somebody? 571 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:20,669 Is there a person controlling who you're fighting? 572 00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:22,012 Is it a computer program? 573 00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:23,808 How does this actually work? 574 00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:26,049 >>GOODE: They're pulling information out of our heads 575 00:32:26,145 --> 00:32:29,175 and control them. 576 00:32:29,281 --> 00:32:33,391 They also had the ability to put multiple people 577 00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:37,555 in the same virtual reality scenario 578 00:32:37,656 --> 00:32:43,396 to where, at times, these people were really there together. 579 00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,325 When you were engaging with their mind, 580 00:32:46,432 --> 00:32:49,872 you were engaging with their mind and their chair. 581 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:53,438 >>DAVID: When you're fighting something like a tarantula, 582 00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:55,469 can there be a human operator controlling 583 00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:57,144 the actions of the tarantula, or is 584 00:32:57,243 --> 00:33:01,553 it a computer program like an artificial intelligence? 585 00:33:01,647 --> 00:33:07,487 >>GOODE: This was just a situation that was playing out 586 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:08,646 in the virtual reality. 587 00:33:08,754 --> 00:33:11,664 I don't know if it was artificial intelligence. 588 00:33:11,757 --> 00:33:14,257 It was very high-tech, and I know 589 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,100 that they were mirroring a lot of information 590 00:33:18,197 --> 00:33:21,997 out of your psyche into the virtual reality. 591 00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:27,141 >>DAVID: If a technology like this could be done at all, 592 00:33:27,239 --> 00:33:29,679 undoubtedly some people are going to start thinking about 593 00:33:29,775 --> 00:33:32,535 stuff like "The Matrix" and wonder how much of all 594 00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:39,424 of our reality is a simulation or is somehow a virtual, 595 00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:42,288 greater compartmentalized part of-- 596 00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:43,658 >>GOODE: Row, row, row your boat. 597 00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:46,385 Life is but a dream. 598 00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:49,062 >>DAVID: Do you think that ultimately, 599 00:33:49,161 --> 00:33:51,731 if we're looking at the fact that we only 600 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,800 remember one lifetime, and then it 601 00:33:53,899 --> 00:33:58,899 seems that we have an afterlife and reincarnation that our life 602 00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:01,444 here is sort of like a simulation, every time 603 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:04,110 we wake up from sleep that we're jumping back 604 00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,210 into this hologram? 605 00:34:06,312 --> 00:34:09,852 >>GOODE: That's probably a good way to put it. 606 00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:14,918 But we're definitely, from what I was told by the Blue Avians, 607 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:19,730 since we're spiritual children still when we die, 608 00:34:19,825 --> 00:34:25,095 we're not living long enough to spiritually develop. 609 00:34:25,197 --> 00:34:29,297 It's taking us multiple lifetimes to learn the lessons 610 00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:32,771 and to spiritually develop to a point 611 00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:38,081 to where we can graduate to become higher density beings. 612 00:34:38,177 --> 00:34:39,577 >>DAVID: Well, you've heard it here. 613 00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:41,078 This is "Cosmic Disclosure." 614 00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:44,320 Very mind-blowing information, and there's much, much more 615 00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:45,876 where this came from. 616 00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:48,394 We have 52 episodes, and we may even 617 00:34:48,487 --> 00:34:49,887 be doing more past that point. 618 00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,618 So every week, you're going to be hearing fascinating stuff 619 00:34:52,724 --> 00:34:53,334 like this. 620 00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:54,825 So please stay tuned. 621 00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:58,926 I'm your host, David Wilcock, and we thank you for watching. 622 00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:02,570 [theme music]