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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:03,376 - Look at that. - What is that? 2 00:00:03,377 --> 00:00:04,543 THOMAS: There's a helicopter coming in. 3 00:00:04,544 --> 00:00:05,878 That dude's hovering right there. 4 00:00:05,879 --> 00:00:08,378 THOMAS: I think somebody's watching us right now. 5 00:00:08,379 --> 00:00:10,505 There's something going on out here. 6 00:00:10,506 --> 00:00:12,923 TRAVIS: What in the world? There's no sign of struggle. 7 00:00:12,924 --> 00:00:14,007 It's just dead. 8 00:00:14,008 --> 00:00:16,175 - (beeping) - The meter is going nuts. 9 00:00:16,176 --> 00:00:17,342 All the frequencies are excited. 10 00:00:17,343 --> 00:00:19,510 Mankind doesn't know how to do that. 11 00:00:19,511 --> 00:00:22,969 LINDA: You all may have the first consistent data 12 00:00:22,970 --> 00:00:25,929 here at the Skinwalker Ranch. 13 00:00:25,930 --> 00:00:28,097 We're dealing with something 14 00:00:28,098 --> 00:00:29,972 that doesn't want us to understand. 15 00:00:29,973 --> 00:00:31,807 ERIK: The cow is right here. 16 00:00:31,808 --> 00:00:33,682 I can't help but also notice that 17 00:00:33,683 --> 00:00:34,850 there's something happening here. 18 00:00:34,851 --> 00:00:37,143 BRANDON: The cow reacted 19 00:00:37,144 --> 00:00:41,436 the moment that that object appeared. 20 00:00:41,437 --> 00:00:45,105 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 21 00:00:45,106 --> 00:00:47,606 It is considered the epicenter 22 00:00:47,607 --> 00:00:52,400 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 23 00:00:52,401 --> 00:00:54,734 animal mutilations, 24 00:00:54,735 --> 00:00:56,986 bizarre UFO sightings 25 00:00:56,987 --> 00:01:02,322 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 26 00:01:02,323 --> 00:01:04,989 For 20 years, the federal government 27 00:01:04,990 --> 00:01:08,282 tried to find answers and failed. 28 00:01:08,283 --> 00:01:12,326 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 29 00:01:12,327 --> 00:01:16,161 researchers and experts has taken over. 30 00:01:16,162 --> 00:01:20,206 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 31 00:01:22,666 --> 00:01:25,876 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 32 00:01:35,839 --> 00:01:37,630 ERIK: So here, you can see 33 00:01:37,631 --> 00:01:39,633 she starts to get up. 34 00:01:41,675 --> 00:01:44,260 The cow is trying to get up on her feet. 35 00:01:45,927 --> 00:01:47,928 - The object is here. - LINDA: Wow. 36 00:01:50,304 --> 00:01:52,263 - The cow reacted. - TRAVIS: Right. 37 00:01:52,264 --> 00:01:55,889 The moment that that object appeared 38 00:01:55,890 --> 00:01:59,933 above the cow, the cow was reacting. 39 00:01:59,934 --> 00:02:02,142 Yes. 40 00:02:05,312 --> 00:02:07,687 TRAVIS: Yesterday, on the ranch, we found 41 00:02:07,688 --> 00:02:08,896 that a two-year-old cow 42 00:02:08,897 --> 00:02:10,271 that had gotten completely separated 43 00:02:10,272 --> 00:02:13,189 from the rest of the herd just suddenly died. 44 00:02:13,190 --> 00:02:14,816 And for no apparent reason. 45 00:02:16,483 --> 00:02:19,359 Jim, are you seeing anything on the spectrum analyzer? 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,193 So, I'm getting some pretty high spikes. 47 00:02:22,194 --> 00:02:24,444 TRAVIS: Oh, wow! 48 00:02:24,445 --> 00:02:26,946 Later, we had a veterinarian come out 49 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:29,155 and perform an autopsy to determine the cause of death. 50 00:02:29,156 --> 00:02:32,448 But his findings only served to confirm our suspicions 51 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:33,783 that something really out of the ordinary 52 00:02:33,784 --> 00:02:35,491 must have happened to it. 53 00:02:35,492 --> 00:02:36,951 SEGALA: I just want to verify something, 54 00:02:36,952 --> 00:02:39,618 that the animal was going about her business, 55 00:02:39,619 --> 00:02:42,495 doing her thing, got stressed by something 56 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:44,454 that lowered her immune system, 57 00:02:44,455 --> 00:02:46,122 which allowed pneumonia to set in. 58 00:02:46,123 --> 00:02:47,082 Exactly, yeah. 59 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:48,998 All the signs I've seen point toward 60 00:02:48,999 --> 00:02:51,001 stress-induced pneumonia. 61 00:02:53,251 --> 00:02:56,668 TRAVIS: Luckily, one of Erik Bard's surveillance cameras 62 00:02:56,669 --> 00:02:59,462 actually captured the moment that the cow died. 63 00:02:59,463 --> 00:03:01,129 It also captured something else. 64 00:03:01,130 --> 00:03:03,755 Something that appears to be a UFO 65 00:03:03,756 --> 00:03:06,382 in the sky directly overhead. 66 00:03:06,383 --> 00:03:09,466 Go back and show them where you first see it, Erik. 67 00:03:09,467 --> 00:03:12,428 Okay, so this is our first shot of it. 68 00:03:15,679 --> 00:03:18,512 And I'm going to go single-stepping 69 00:03:18,513 --> 00:03:19,806 one frame at a time. 70 00:03:21,931 --> 00:03:24,182 LINDA: And it actually popped. 71 00:03:24,183 --> 00:03:26,182 So, is that 1/30th of a second video? 72 00:03:26,183 --> 00:03:28,852 - It's 1/15th. - This is, this is 1/15. - LINDA: 1/15. 73 00:03:31,186 --> 00:03:33,228 TRAVIS: And so, clearly, it's behind the trees. 74 00:03:33,229 --> 00:03:35,229 And... you know, 75 00:03:35,230 --> 00:03:37,688 the distance from the camera to the trees is how far? 76 00:03:37,689 --> 00:03:40,356 It's about 75 feet between the-the tree 77 00:03:40,357 --> 00:03:42,441 that you see on the far right and the next tree. 78 00:03:42,442 --> 00:03:44,859 So, if it's directly over the tree line, 79 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:47,818 it moved 75 feet in a 15th of a second. 80 00:03:47,819 --> 00:03:49,236 So, you multiply that, 81 00:03:49,237 --> 00:03:52,279 that means it moved about a thousand feet in a second. 82 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,823 That's... That's as fast as a high-powered rifle bullet. 83 00:03:58,241 --> 00:03:59,782 I was sitting here this whole time 84 00:03:59,783 --> 00:04:01,742 just thinking it was a bird, but you watch that real-time, 85 00:04:01,743 --> 00:04:04,243 - I mean, that's fast. - Yeah, there's no bird moving that fast. 86 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:05,744 Not at a thousand feet per second. 87 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:07,077 I have no idea what that is. 88 00:04:07,078 --> 00:04:09,579 And you're saying a thousand feet per second, 89 00:04:09,580 --> 00:04:11,538 - assuming it's right above the trees. - It's right over the trees. 90 00:04:11,539 --> 00:04:14,415 - Right. - If it's just beyond the tree, 91 00:04:14,416 --> 00:04:17,291 - it could be moving even faster. - TRAVIS: Even faster. 92 00:04:17,292 --> 00:04:18,833 There's an interesting thing that I noticed 93 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:20,500 when we were looking at it earlier. Erik, 94 00:04:20,501 --> 00:04:23,002 if you could pull the one where it's directly over the cow. 95 00:04:23,003 --> 00:04:24,378 - And zoom in on the thing. - Sure. 96 00:04:26,755 --> 00:04:28,464 - You want to go in tighter? - TRAVIS: Yup. 97 00:04:30,423 --> 00:04:34,424 Uh, if you look around 98 00:04:34,425 --> 00:04:36,550 the spot, there's an area 99 00:04:36,551 --> 00:04:38,301 that looks a little bit different. 100 00:04:38,302 --> 00:04:39,802 - LINDA: Halo-ish. - TRAVIS: Yeah. 101 00:04:39,803 --> 00:04:41,636 And I noticed it when I did an analysis 102 00:04:41,637 --> 00:04:44,263 of the Tic Tac video that the Navy has. 103 00:04:52,893 --> 00:04:55,100 Recently, it's come to light that there's been this program 104 00:04:55,101 --> 00:04:57,602 that the Pentagon has been funding called 105 00:04:57,603 --> 00:04:59,936 the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 106 00:04:59,937 --> 00:05:01,978 A- A-T-I-P or AATIP. 107 00:05:01,979 --> 00:05:04,856 And this program was actually put in place 108 00:05:04,857 --> 00:05:08,984 to look at unknown aerial phenomena: UFOs. 109 00:05:11,818 --> 00:05:15,402 And there's a Gimbal video that was released, 110 00:05:15,403 --> 00:05:16,986 uh, and a Tic Tac video. 111 00:05:16,987 --> 00:05:20,863 And all these videos show a vehicle that's flying 112 00:05:20,864 --> 00:05:24,031 with some type of propulsion that we don't know of. 113 00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:27,366 We can't understand what it is by looking at the video. 114 00:05:27,367 --> 00:05:29,368 When we looked at it on a FLIR, 115 00:05:29,369 --> 00:05:32,369 that told us that it was cold and the craft was warm. 116 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:34,536 And then you got ambient air around it. 117 00:05:34,537 --> 00:05:37,372 During my first meeting with the Skinwalker team, 118 00:05:37,373 --> 00:05:39,872 Brandon showed me a photo of a UFO 119 00:05:39,873 --> 00:05:41,665 that was taken above the ranch. 120 00:05:41,666 --> 00:05:43,707 One of the first things that we captured 121 00:05:43,708 --> 00:05:45,500 on the property 122 00:05:45,501 --> 00:05:47,210 was an interesting object 123 00:05:47,211 --> 00:05:49,377 just over the mesa. 124 00:05:49,378 --> 00:05:50,836 TRAVIS: And it looked to have 125 00:05:50,837 --> 00:05:52,503 that same kind of halo around it, 126 00:05:52,504 --> 00:05:54,171 something that I believe is caused 127 00:05:54,172 --> 00:05:55,547 by a temperature differential. 128 00:05:55,548 --> 00:05:57,214 And that's something I've seen 129 00:05:57,215 --> 00:05:59,924 in a number of other UFO videos. 130 00:05:59,925 --> 00:06:02,634 It could be a highly, highly classified thing. 131 00:06:02,635 --> 00:06:04,926 But here's the thing. If there's a project 132 00:06:04,927 --> 00:06:09,095 that's that classified, that level of technology 133 00:06:09,096 --> 00:06:10,762 so far advanced 134 00:06:10,763 --> 00:06:13,971 from the rest of the technology we have on the planet, 135 00:06:13,972 --> 00:06:16,642 that-that's h... that's real hard to swallow. 136 00:06:18,016 --> 00:06:20,059 Two things we don't know. 137 00:06:20,060 --> 00:06:23,769 Are we dealing with a craft that is moving point to point 138 00:06:23,770 --> 00:06:24,936 and has influence 139 00:06:24,937 --> 00:06:28,522 on the brain of that cow? 140 00:06:30,064 --> 00:06:31,731 And the fact that the herd is not around. 141 00:06:31,732 --> 00:06:34,065 I don't know that I have seen them pushed up 142 00:06:34,066 --> 00:06:35,941 to that side of the ranch since we brought them on, 143 00:06:35,942 --> 00:06:39,109 so that behavior by itself was unusual. 144 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:40,985 LINDA: I saw the cow, 145 00:06:40,986 --> 00:06:43,861 and it's not a mutilation. 146 00:06:43,862 --> 00:06:47,446 But somehow that animal was sick enough 147 00:06:47,447 --> 00:06:51,490 or affected enough or manipulated enough, 148 00:06:51,491 --> 00:06:55,075 it was left behind all the herd. 149 00:06:55,076 --> 00:06:59,494 And it is that that has been reported over and over 150 00:06:59,495 --> 00:07:01,954 in animal mutilation cases. 151 00:07:01,955 --> 00:07:04,747 Is it related in some way? 152 00:07:05,790 --> 00:07:07,832 I think we're seeing a reaction 153 00:07:07,833 --> 00:07:10,291 to something in its environment 154 00:07:10,292 --> 00:07:11,625 - at the very end. - Right. 155 00:07:11,626 --> 00:07:13,501 And it's enough of a reaction that it's making 156 00:07:13,502 --> 00:07:16,627 - a deathly ill cow want to move. - Want to get out of there. 157 00:07:16,628 --> 00:07:19,546 BRANDON: We very well could have prevented 158 00:07:19,547 --> 00:07:22,255 a full-blown cattle mutilation from occurring. 159 00:07:22,256 --> 00:07:24,548 - That's a possibility. - That's a possibility. 160 00:07:24,549 --> 00:07:26,340 It's oddly serendipitous. 161 00:07:26,341 --> 00:07:27,425 You know, it's one of those things. 162 00:07:27,426 --> 00:07:29,050 We continue to hit home 163 00:07:29,051 --> 00:07:31,552 that correlation isn't causation, 164 00:07:31,553 --> 00:07:34,261 but we have two really interesting phenomena 165 00:07:34,262 --> 00:07:36,221 occurring at exactly the same time 166 00:07:36,222 --> 00:07:38,471 very near the same spatial location. 167 00:07:38,472 --> 00:07:40,722 It really makes you want to look deeper to see 168 00:07:40,723 --> 00:07:43,849 can we prove the cow moved because of that thing? 169 00:07:43,850 --> 00:07:45,349 Man, you just got to wonder. 170 00:07:45,350 --> 00:07:49,601 If this object appeared at just the same time 171 00:07:49,602 --> 00:07:52,854 this cow is dying its last breath 172 00:07:52,855 --> 00:07:55,020 and then just after the fact, we're measuring 173 00:07:55,021 --> 00:07:57,189 all these weird electromagnetic signals, 174 00:07:57,190 --> 00:07:59,022 is that a coincidence? 175 00:07:59,023 --> 00:08:00,566 BRANDON: We're out in the middle of nowhere. 176 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:03,275 So, which begs the question. Linda, 177 00:08:03,276 --> 00:08:06,651 have you seen with other cases you have investigated 178 00:08:06,652 --> 00:08:11,112 these type of phenomena attend 179 00:08:11,113 --> 00:08:14,947 cattle mutilations and other events? 180 00:08:14,948 --> 00:08:17,157 LINDA: The sudden separation 181 00:08:17,158 --> 00:08:19,199 of a herd that goes completely as far 182 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,616 as they can go in a pasture, 183 00:08:20,617 --> 00:08:23,077 leaving the animal that is found mutilated? 184 00:08:23,078 --> 00:08:25,287 That's happened many, many times. 185 00:08:26,955 --> 00:08:30,080 What about the electromagnetic type of anomalies? 186 00:08:30,081 --> 00:08:31,830 LINDA: I feel strongly 187 00:08:31,831 --> 00:08:34,172 where there are mutilations, 188 00:08:34,207 --> 00:08:37,750 where there are UFOs, you're going to find 189 00:08:37,751 --> 00:08:39,001 that there are magnetic anomalies. 190 00:08:39,002 --> 00:08:40,626 They go together. 191 00:08:40,627 --> 00:08:44,420 And that includes the running down of batteries. 192 00:08:44,421 --> 00:08:46,129 Wow. 193 00:08:46,130 --> 00:08:47,589 TRAVIS: That's... 194 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:49,338 We get that all the time. 195 00:08:49,339 --> 00:08:52,882 It's really weird that when strange things seem to happen, 196 00:08:52,883 --> 00:08:55,676 we seem to find something in the sky at the same time. 197 00:08:55,677 --> 00:08:57,342 LINDA: I think we are dealing 198 00:08:57,343 --> 00:08:58,677 with point to point. 199 00:08:58,678 --> 00:09:00,511 I think we're dealing with portals. 200 00:09:00,512 --> 00:09:03,472 I think we are dealing with advanced technology. 201 00:09:04,806 --> 00:09:06,722 See, you've got the combination 202 00:09:06,723 --> 00:09:09,348 of just about every high strangeness going on here 203 00:09:09,349 --> 00:09:10,974 at Skinwalker Ranch. 204 00:09:10,975 --> 00:09:14,476 But after being here for a day, 205 00:09:14,477 --> 00:09:18,311 I think the chapter has just simply turned. 206 00:09:18,312 --> 00:09:22,730 And what I think gives me a new confidence 207 00:09:22,731 --> 00:09:25,690 that maybe we're going to get some more data 208 00:09:25,691 --> 00:09:27,691 is because of the work you're doing. 209 00:09:27,692 --> 00:09:30,067 So, hooray, you guys. 210 00:09:30,068 --> 00:09:31,568 Keep doing this, 211 00:09:31,569 --> 00:09:34,111 because this is maybe the only way we're really going 212 00:09:34,112 --> 00:09:37,279 to learn some of the truth that has been hidden. 213 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,696 BRANDON: Absolutely. 214 00:09:38,697 --> 00:09:42,573 I think we're just starting to pull back the curtain 215 00:09:42,574 --> 00:09:45,533 with our investigation here at Skinwalker Ranch. 216 00:09:45,534 --> 00:09:47,200 And, uh, we'll look forward 217 00:09:47,201 --> 00:09:48,701 to further updates in the future. 218 00:09:48,702 --> 00:09:50,535 - Thank you. - (overlapping chatter) 219 00:09:50,536 --> 00:09:53,537 (wind whistling) 220 00:10:02,876 --> 00:10:05,125 JIM: It's good to see everybody. 221 00:10:05,126 --> 00:10:07,252 - It's good to have you back, Travis. - Yeah, man. 222 00:10:07,253 --> 00:10:08,502 I missed you guys. 223 00:10:08,503 --> 00:10:10,837 After being out there with y'all for so long, 224 00:10:10,838 --> 00:10:12,046 it was strange going home. 225 00:10:12,047 --> 00:10:13,379 And I kept looking 226 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:15,964 over my shoulder for crazy stuff to happen, but... 227 00:10:15,965 --> 00:10:17,131 - (laughter) - Brandon 228 00:10:17,132 --> 00:10:18,965 has instructed Tom, Erik and the team 229 00:10:18,966 --> 00:10:20,966 to continue their surveillance of all the activities 230 00:10:20,967 --> 00:10:22,342 on the ranch. 231 00:10:22,343 --> 00:10:24,219 But after the death of the cow, we decided 232 00:10:24,220 --> 00:10:26,260 to put a pause on experimentation out there, 233 00:10:26,261 --> 00:10:28,387 at least until we've had a chance to analyze 234 00:10:28,388 --> 00:10:30,972 all the data that we collected over the summer. 235 00:10:32,057 --> 00:10:34,056 Hey, gentlemen. I'd like you to meet 236 00:10:34,057 --> 00:10:36,058 attorney general for the state of Utah, 237 00:10:36,059 --> 00:10:37,599 - Sean Reyes. - TRAVIS: Wow! 238 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,892 - Dragon, how's it going? - Hey. 239 00:10:38,893 --> 00:10:40,434 - Good to see you again. - Good to see you, too. 240 00:10:40,435 --> 00:10:41,435 - Sir. - Travis Taylor. 241 00:10:41,436 --> 00:10:42,560 Mr. Taylor. Pleased to meet you. 242 00:10:42,561 --> 00:10:45,646 Attorney General Reyes has been briefed 243 00:10:45,647 --> 00:10:47,646 over the course of the last several years. 244 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:50,980 He's been very well aware and kept up on the events 245 00:10:50,981 --> 00:10:54,274 that have occurred on property with you. 246 00:10:54,275 --> 00:10:56,526 And I thought it was important today, 247 00:10:56,527 --> 00:10:59,026 at his request, for him to be briefed 248 00:10:59,027 --> 00:11:01,695 on some of the more disturbing 249 00:11:01,696 --> 00:11:04,947 and interesting incidents that we've 250 00:11:04,948 --> 00:11:08,073 most recently had out on the... on the property. 251 00:11:08,074 --> 00:11:09,865 - Great. - JIM: Yeah, thank you so much. 252 00:11:09,866 --> 00:11:11,324 - Appreciate your time. Thanks very much. - Glad you're here. 253 00:11:11,325 --> 00:11:12,699 TRAVIS: The fact that our activities 254 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:14,993 at Skinwalker Ranch have merited the attention 255 00:11:14,994 --> 00:11:17,035 of the state's attorney generl 256 00:11:17,036 --> 00:11:19,662 shows me how seriously the state of Utah is taking 257 00:11:19,663 --> 00:11:21,496 everything that we're doing out there. 258 00:11:21,497 --> 00:11:24,330 I mean, let's face it, if just some of our suspicions 259 00:11:24,331 --> 00:11:25,957 turn out to be correct, 260 00:11:25,958 --> 00:11:28,415 the national security implications could be huge. 261 00:11:28,416 --> 00:11:30,542 Thanks very much. 262 00:11:30,543 --> 00:11:33,043 Brandon's been keeping me updated. 263 00:11:33,044 --> 00:11:35,628 Because you all shepherd 264 00:11:35,629 --> 00:11:38,879 the public now in a much more visible way 265 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,505 into the exploration 266 00:11:41,506 --> 00:11:43,841 of what Skinwalker Ranch represents. 267 00:11:43,842 --> 00:11:45,674 - Yeah. - And, um, 268 00:11:45,675 --> 00:11:47,926 on behalf of the citizens of the state of Utah, 269 00:11:47,927 --> 00:11:50,885 I think it'd be important that this isn't viewed 270 00:11:50,886 --> 00:11:53,010 as just, you know, this mysterious project 271 00:11:53,011 --> 00:11:54,512 that these outsiders are conducting. 272 00:11:54,513 --> 00:11:58,514 These are important issues for our state. 273 00:11:58,515 --> 00:12:00,473 I'm happy to be a part of it. 274 00:12:00,474 --> 00:12:01,849 I'm honored that you all 275 00:12:01,850 --> 00:12:04,892 would brief me and let me participate. 276 00:12:04,893 --> 00:12:07,309 So thank you all, each and every one of you. 277 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:09,186 - Appreciate it. - Thank you. - Thank you. 278 00:12:09,187 --> 00:12:13,230 You know, as we come back together after a month, 279 00:12:13,231 --> 00:12:16,648 I thought it was important to evaluate the events 280 00:12:16,649 --> 00:12:18,940 that happened on that ranch. 281 00:12:18,941 --> 00:12:22,608 - Yeah. - Because now you have hard data 282 00:12:22,609 --> 00:12:24,734 - Right. - that helps us hopefully understand 283 00:12:24,735 --> 00:12:27,152 what is at play at Skinwalker Ranch. 284 00:12:27,153 --> 00:12:29,404 - Right. - ERIK: There's so many points here, 285 00:12:29,405 --> 00:12:31,488 very good important points, for us to discuss, 286 00:12:31,489 --> 00:12:34,448 and, really, sifting information, 287 00:12:34,449 --> 00:12:37,741 trying to understand, you know, what is significant 288 00:12:37,742 --> 00:12:40,284 and what may just be coincidental. 289 00:12:40,285 --> 00:12:42,244 And also, if there are connections, 290 00:12:42,245 --> 00:12:43,827 what are they? 291 00:12:43,828 --> 00:12:47,329 Well, what have you taken from the events 292 00:12:47,330 --> 00:12:49,705 that have occurred over the last few months? 293 00:12:49,706 --> 00:12:51,123 Let's take this recent 294 00:12:51,124 --> 00:12:53,415 disturbing incident with the cow. 295 00:12:53,416 --> 00:12:56,333 The cow died, and we have, at the time of it dying, 296 00:12:56,334 --> 00:12:59,878 measured strange microwave activity. 297 00:12:59,879 --> 00:13:02,296 - He was getting gammas. - Yeah, and microwaves. 298 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,672 TRAVIS: Hey, y'all? 299 00:13:06,673 --> 00:13:08,047 I'd recommend not to touch it 300 00:13:08,048 --> 00:13:09,506 till we see if it's radioactive or not. 301 00:13:09,507 --> 00:13:11,216 THOMAS: No sign of trauma. 302 00:13:11,217 --> 00:13:13,133 TRAVIS: What in the world? 303 00:13:13,134 --> 00:13:16,093 There's no cat tracks, there's no sign of struggle. 304 00:13:16,094 --> 00:13:17,760 - Middle of the day. - It's just dead. 305 00:13:17,761 --> 00:13:20,429 Jim, are you seeing anything on the spectrum analyzer? 306 00:13:20,430 --> 00:13:23,096 I'm getting some pretty high spikes. 307 00:13:23,097 --> 00:13:24,931 TRAVIS: Oh, wow! 308 00:13:24,932 --> 00:13:27,932 Look at... the meter's going crazy. 309 00:13:27,933 --> 00:13:30,641 My phone starts freaking out whenever your TriField goes off. 310 00:13:30,642 --> 00:13:33,184 I don't have any control over my phone right now. 311 00:13:33,185 --> 00:13:35,477 TRAVIS: Dude, look at that. 312 00:13:35,478 --> 00:13:38,020 SEGALA: We had an actual autopsy done 313 00:13:38,021 --> 00:13:41,439 by a veterinarian, a local veterinarian, and... 314 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,189 what they found out is that it died of pneumonia 315 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:46,524 brought on by stress. 316 00:13:46,525 --> 00:13:50,068 BRANDON: What we did record is, we did record 317 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:53,278 some anomalous object 318 00:13:53,279 --> 00:13:56,571 in the sky above the cow before it died 319 00:13:56,572 --> 00:13:58,739 that it was reacting to. 320 00:13:58,740 --> 00:14:00,823 So you have a biosensor, 321 00:14:00,824 --> 00:14:03,449 in essence, that reacted immediately to the event. 322 00:14:03,450 --> 00:14:05,992 - Absolutely. - Something scared it to death. 323 00:14:05,993 --> 00:14:08,285 - TRAVIS: That's a really good way to put it. - Yep. 324 00:14:08,286 --> 00:14:10,369 - Something scared it to death. - THOMAS: It gets even stranger, 325 00:14:10,370 --> 00:14:14,079 because after this cow died, we do what most ranchers do, 326 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,748 and you drag it off to a corner, and you let the body decompose. 327 00:14:17,749 --> 00:14:20,749 - And let the-the scavengers... - And-and yeah, 328 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:22,292 and the typical thing is, the coyotes 329 00:14:22,293 --> 00:14:23,917 and the scavengers come in, 330 00:14:23,918 --> 00:14:26,628 and they pick it clean. I was just up there a week ago, 331 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:29,670 on a patrol, and I went over there where that cow's at, 332 00:14:29,671 --> 00:14:31,713 and it has not been touched. 333 00:14:31,714 --> 00:14:35,423 To this day, not a single scavenger has touched that cow. 334 00:14:35,424 --> 00:14:37,132 SEAN: Highly irregular. 335 00:14:37,133 --> 00:14:39,383 TRAVIS: One of my graduate students 336 00:14:39,384 --> 00:14:42,468 grew up working on a cattle farm in Alabama, 337 00:14:42,469 --> 00:14:45,927 and he told me that if lightning ever struck one of the cows, 338 00:14:45,928 --> 00:14:47,262 that the predators 339 00:14:47,263 --> 00:14:48,804 would not eat it. 340 00:14:48,805 --> 00:14:50,305 Maybe something happened to this cow. 341 00:14:50,306 --> 00:14:51,973 We know it wasn't struck by lightning, 342 00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:53,806 'cause there was no storms at the time. 343 00:14:53,807 --> 00:14:55,974 But we did measure really high microwaves. 344 00:14:55,975 --> 00:14:58,517 And maybe whatever these signals are 345 00:14:58,518 --> 00:15:02,311 is affecting this cow in such a way that it tainted it. 346 00:15:02,312 --> 00:15:04,354 And it's still sitting there. 347 00:15:04,355 --> 00:15:06,355 No... nothing has touched it. 348 00:15:06,356 --> 00:15:08,356 So there's something to that. 349 00:15:08,357 --> 00:15:11,023 And there was another day where 350 00:15:11,024 --> 00:15:13,983 we were launching rockets, for example, when... 351 00:15:13,984 --> 00:15:16,026 suddenly we see so many phenomena 352 00:15:16,027 --> 00:15:18,693 across so many different regimes of measurement. 353 00:15:18,694 --> 00:15:21,153 While we were launching these rockets, 354 00:15:21,154 --> 00:15:23,237 the entire herd of about 40 cows 355 00:15:23,238 --> 00:15:26,031 come over to the area where we are. 356 00:15:26,032 --> 00:15:28,239 You might think that they would be, um... 357 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,492 - Skittish. - ...frightened of our activity. 358 00:15:30,493 --> 00:15:32,659 You'd think they'd go away from us. 359 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:34,369 Instead, during that activity, 360 00:15:34,370 --> 00:15:35,660 we watched the cattle come 361 00:15:35,661 --> 00:15:37,870 - to the east field. - Actually, 362 00:15:37,871 --> 00:15:40,287 - they didn't come, they ran. - Well, that was exactly the point. 363 00:15:40,288 --> 00:15:41,914 - They ran. - And... 364 00:15:41,915 --> 00:15:44,831 some of them behaved as if they were in a panic. 365 00:15:44,832 --> 00:15:47,625 It was nearly stampeding behavior. 366 00:15:47,626 --> 00:15:48,875 Yeah, yeah. 367 00:15:48,876 --> 00:15:50,876 SEGALA: Look at the cows. 368 00:15:50,877 --> 00:15:52,877 That is the strangest thing. 369 00:15:52,878 --> 00:15:55,462 - (cows bellowing) - BRYANT: Never seen that before. 370 00:15:55,463 --> 00:15:56,587 SEGALA: They all grouped together 371 00:15:56,588 --> 00:15:57,962 so tight, they started fighting. 372 00:15:57,963 --> 00:16:00,215 THOMAS: They started to fight among each other, 373 00:16:00,216 --> 00:16:02,173 head-butting each other, they were mooing, they were... 374 00:16:02,174 --> 00:16:04,675 BRYANT: I thought they were gonna take down the east fence. 375 00:16:04,676 --> 00:16:06,384 Something that gave them more concern 376 00:16:06,385 --> 00:16:08,093 than the sound of the rockets. 377 00:16:08,094 --> 00:16:10,511 TRAVIS: Well, and it's at the same time 378 00:16:10,512 --> 00:16:12,512 that the unidentified aerial phenomena 379 00:16:12,513 --> 00:16:15,179 - start appearing in the sky. - Really? 380 00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:16,932 TRAVIS: Ignition! 381 00:16:18,431 --> 00:16:19,807 Look, look, look, look! 382 00:16:19,808 --> 00:16:21,891 - What is that? - We got something. Hold on. 383 00:16:21,892 --> 00:16:24,184 THOMAS: Oh, wait, wait, it's a plane, I think. 384 00:16:24,185 --> 00:16:25,892 TRAVIS: No, that wasn't a plane. 385 00:16:25,893 --> 00:16:27,812 - Oh, there it is again! - There it is again! 386 00:16:30,021 --> 00:16:31,938 THOMAS: It's gone. 387 00:16:31,939 --> 00:16:33,605 SEAN: It's one thing to have 388 00:16:33,606 --> 00:16:36,940 a light in the night or some random sighting, 389 00:16:36,941 --> 00:16:40,525 but when livestock start to literally fall over... 390 00:16:40,526 --> 00:16:42,984 It's not unheard of to have them die from time to time, 391 00:16:42,985 --> 00:16:45,444 but not under these kinds of circumstances, 392 00:16:45,445 --> 00:16:47,236 not with this many questions. 393 00:16:47,237 --> 00:16:50,863 Or, our bigger concern, uh, beyond livestock, 394 00:16:50,864 --> 00:16:54,657 when this starts to potentially impact human beings. 395 00:16:54,658 --> 00:16:56,324 BRANDON: Yes. 396 00:16:56,325 --> 00:16:57,784 You found out firsthand, 397 00:16:57,785 --> 00:17:02,119 surprisingly, how dangerous this ranch can be. 398 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,662 TRAVIS: Absolutely. While we were out there, 399 00:17:04,663 --> 00:17:08,372 we were in a... in a cave, and, uh, 400 00:17:08,373 --> 00:17:12,707 I was exposed to something that made me, uh, nearly pass out. 401 00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:15,751 TRAVIS: Let me ask a question, guys. 402 00:17:15,752 --> 00:17:19,002 - Do any of y'all feel a little swimmy-headed at all? - ERIK: You feeling it? 403 00:17:19,003 --> 00:17:20,086 TRAVIS: I don't know. Slightly, I felt 404 00:17:20,087 --> 00:17:22,170 like I was not holding my balance well 405 00:17:22,171 --> 00:17:25,171 for a second there-that's why I put my hand over on the rock. 406 00:17:25,172 --> 00:17:26,839 And I'm feeling it now, too. 407 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,340 TRAVIS: And then, a few days later, 408 00:17:29,341 --> 00:17:33,259 I was exposed to a fairly high dose of gamma ray radiation. 409 00:17:33,260 --> 00:17:36,636 Heck, it could be a tunnel entrance for all we know. 410 00:17:36,637 --> 00:17:38,219 I'd like to know what's in this thing. 411 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:39,929 Don't lift it up. 412 00:17:39,930 --> 00:17:41,971 TRAVIS: I feel like, uh, 413 00:17:41,972 --> 00:17:44,515 I got a little bit of a headache or something happening. 414 00:17:44,516 --> 00:17:46,515 - Holy... Mine's beeping. - SEGALA: Your total dose 415 00:17:46,516 --> 00:17:47,683 - is way up there. - Oh, my God. 416 00:17:47,684 --> 00:17:49,891 We were just exposed to ionizing radiation. 417 00:17:49,892 --> 00:17:52,226 So, did you end up going to the hospital 418 00:17:52,227 --> 00:17:54,227 - as a result of these injuries? - TRAVIS: Yes. 419 00:17:54,228 --> 00:17:56,646 I had surgery as a result of those injuries. 420 00:18:04,191 --> 00:18:07,525 TRAVIS: Maybe a week, maybe two weeks at most, 421 00:18:07,526 --> 00:18:09,819 after I got exposed to the radiation, 422 00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:12,361 I started getting a knot forming here, a bump, 423 00:18:12,362 --> 00:18:14,029 coming out of my knuckle there. 424 00:18:14,030 --> 00:18:15,738 And then another bump started forming. 425 00:18:15,739 --> 00:18:17,321 And on into the summer, 426 00:18:17,322 --> 00:18:19,823 it kept getting bigger and bigger and started hurting. 427 00:18:19,824 --> 00:18:22,074 That's... that's nasty, man. 428 00:18:22,075 --> 00:18:24,075 So then I went and had it X-rayed, 429 00:18:24,076 --> 00:18:26,410 and my doctor looked at it, and he says, "Well, uh, 430 00:18:26,411 --> 00:18:28,201 you've got two bone spurs in there." 431 00:18:28,202 --> 00:18:30,203 They said, "Well, you're gonna have to have it removed, 432 00:18:30,204 --> 00:18:32,495 'cause it's just gonna keep getting bigger and worse." 433 00:18:32,496 --> 00:18:34,706 And so they went in, and they took out a cyst 434 00:18:34,707 --> 00:18:36,330 that was almost as big as an M&M. 435 00:18:36,331 --> 00:18:37,874 There was, like, 18 stitches in there. 436 00:18:37,875 --> 00:18:39,541 JIM: Mm, that's unreal. 437 00:18:39,542 --> 00:18:43,126 And, uh, and it still feels like it's a broken finger. 438 00:18:43,127 --> 00:18:45,377 It's still a little bit painful, but it's, 439 00:18:45,378 --> 00:18:47,003 you know, it's healing fine. 440 00:18:47,004 --> 00:18:48,171 Wow. 441 00:18:48,172 --> 00:18:50,212 TRAVIS: I believe that whatever 442 00:18:50,213 --> 00:18:51,756 this phenomena is that we've measured, 443 00:18:51,757 --> 00:18:53,380 every time we've measured it, 444 00:18:53,381 --> 00:18:55,883 we do get high energy levels and microwaves, 445 00:18:55,884 --> 00:18:57,841 and we've measured gamma rays. 446 00:18:57,842 --> 00:19:00,010 And so it's possible that whatever this is 447 00:19:00,011 --> 00:19:03,803 that's occurring is what's causing the injuries. 448 00:19:03,804 --> 00:19:06,471 But you're not the only one, right? 449 00:19:06,472 --> 00:19:09,222 - Mr. Winterton had... - Thomas had... serious ones, yeah. 450 00:19:09,223 --> 00:19:10,890 I know, at least for my injury, 451 00:19:10,891 --> 00:19:12,974 and-and if I'm under the correct understanding 452 00:19:12,975 --> 00:19:16,350 of some of the other injuries, they couldn't explain it away. 453 00:19:16,351 --> 00:19:17,810 - That's what... - That particular one, they couldn't. 454 00:19:17,811 --> 00:19:20,102 They never came to conclusion of what caused it, 455 00:19:20,103 --> 00:19:22,478 and they couldn't find what it was. 456 00:19:22,479 --> 00:19:24,438 - TRAVIS: Right. - Yep. - BRYANT: Well, 457 00:19:24,439 --> 00:19:25,855 to your point, Thomas, too, 458 00:19:25,856 --> 00:19:27,481 when you talk about ranching injuries, 459 00:19:27,482 --> 00:19:30,316 we're not talking about broken bones and smashed hands. 460 00:19:30,317 --> 00:19:32,901 We're talking about radiation exposure. 461 00:19:34,486 --> 00:19:38,445 The injuries that Tom Winterton experienced back two years ago 462 00:19:38,446 --> 00:19:41,988 were of the nature that he had a neurological episode, 463 00:19:41,989 --> 00:19:45,323 and he had a big swelling in the back of his head. 464 00:19:45,324 --> 00:19:48,783 And his injuries was consistent with a radiation beam 465 00:19:48,784 --> 00:19:51,284 that entered his body from a specific angle, 466 00:19:51,285 --> 00:19:53,035 back behind his head. 467 00:19:53,036 --> 00:19:55,036 So Thomas's injury 468 00:19:55,037 --> 00:19:58,287 really reinforces that this ranch could be very dangerous. 469 00:19:58,288 --> 00:20:01,831 Somehow, all of this is coupled; we just don't know how. 470 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:04,582 Yeah. 471 00:20:04,583 --> 00:20:06,333 ERIK: Obviously, we're experiencing things 472 00:20:06,334 --> 00:20:08,459 of a subjective nature. 473 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:11,002 Something in our physiology is responding 474 00:20:11,003 --> 00:20:12,336 to something on the property, 475 00:20:12,337 --> 00:20:14,128 - Yeah. - but we also see... 476 00:20:14,129 --> 00:20:17,171 devices of many different kinds malfunctioning on the ranch. 477 00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:19,048 We're talking about the, 478 00:20:19,049 --> 00:20:21,882 uh, disruption of a handheld or a mobile device. 479 00:20:21,883 --> 00:20:24,801 - Like the phones, right? - Right. 480 00:20:24,802 --> 00:20:27,134 My phone's freaking out. 481 00:20:27,135 --> 00:20:28,636 It's just been doing this for the last, 482 00:20:28,637 --> 00:20:30,011 you know, couple minutes. 483 00:20:30,012 --> 00:20:31,845 I just ran up here so you could see it. 484 00:20:31,846 --> 00:20:34,596 It was in my contacts, it tried calling a couple people, 485 00:20:34,597 --> 00:20:37,057 and then it's been messing around in my camera. 486 00:20:37,058 --> 00:20:40,016 Dude, that is crazy. 487 00:20:40,017 --> 00:20:43,476 ERIK: We are continuously dealing 488 00:20:43,477 --> 00:20:45,977 with some kind of interference that takes our systems down. 489 00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:50,230 And it's not one type of device; it's many kinds of devices. 490 00:20:50,231 --> 00:20:51,896 - Right. - Uh, you know, 491 00:20:51,897 --> 00:20:54,398 very often batteries are... are discharged, 492 00:20:54,399 --> 00:20:56,357 - Yeah. - or things don't work correctly. 493 00:20:56,358 --> 00:20:57,858 Yeah. 494 00:20:57,859 --> 00:21:00,776 PHIL: Oh, my gosh. 495 00:21:00,777 --> 00:21:02,943 I completely charged these four batteries 496 00:21:02,944 --> 00:21:05,570 last evening, and now they're into the yellow section. 497 00:21:05,571 --> 00:21:08,029 ERIK: When have you seen that before? 498 00:21:08,030 --> 00:21:10,198 I quite frankly have not seen that before. 499 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,200 TRAVIS: You name it, 500 00:21:15,201 --> 00:21:18,409 if it had electronics in it, somehow or other, 501 00:21:18,410 --> 00:21:20,494 it malfunctioned while we were out there this summer. 502 00:21:20,495 --> 00:21:25,079 It either turned itself off, uh, it w-just wouldn't function. 503 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,956 Its electronic control software didn't work. 504 00:21:28,957 --> 00:21:31,666 We had drones that worked fine one second, 505 00:21:31,667 --> 00:21:35,376 then move it ten feet over and it wouldn't work at all. 506 00:21:35,377 --> 00:21:38,253 DERRICK: All right, let's do this. 507 00:21:38,254 --> 00:21:39,628 No connection. 508 00:21:39,629 --> 00:21:41,921 TRAVIS: Huh, that's weird. 509 00:21:41,922 --> 00:21:43,463 DERRICK: Yeah, I'm not connecting to the remote. 510 00:21:43,464 --> 00:21:45,922 I don't know what's happening with it. 511 00:21:45,923 --> 00:21:47,465 T- That makes no sense. 512 00:21:47,466 --> 00:21:49,465 I don't think this is a coincidence. 513 00:21:49,466 --> 00:21:51,968 I think what happened is that because we were all there, 514 00:21:51,969 --> 00:21:54,343 we were concentrated, we were doing experiments 515 00:21:54,344 --> 00:21:56,053 on a daily basis... 516 00:21:56,054 --> 00:21:57,220 Look, it is going nuts. 517 00:21:57,221 --> 00:21:59,138 It's coming from up there. 518 00:21:59,139 --> 00:22:02,013 And we were doing lots of experiments that no one 519 00:22:02,014 --> 00:22:03,431 has ever really done on the ranch. 520 00:22:03,432 --> 00:22:05,683 Oh, you see that? Look, look, look. 521 00:22:05,684 --> 00:22:07,850 SEGALA: That caused the entity, the phenomena, 522 00:22:07,851 --> 00:22:10,726 whatever you want to call it, to actually show itself 523 00:22:10,727 --> 00:22:11,935 on a more frequent basis. 524 00:22:11,936 --> 00:22:13,353 THOMAS: That's a definite beam. 525 00:22:13,354 --> 00:22:16,146 It is clearly a beam going across there. 526 00:22:16,147 --> 00:22:17,856 What we're seeing might not just be 527 00:22:17,857 --> 00:22:20,189 the reactions of the phenomena. 528 00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:22,607 The phenomena might actually be trying to tell us something 529 00:22:22,608 --> 00:22:25,608 or show us something or lead us to something. 530 00:22:25,609 --> 00:22:29,318 As you've seen unidentified aerial phenomena 531 00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:33,737 appear simultaneous with other events, 532 00:22:33,738 --> 00:22:36,363 does that constitute contact? 533 00:22:36,364 --> 00:22:42,325 So, we didn't, as far as I can tell, try and talk back to them, 534 00:22:42,326 --> 00:22:43,826 but we don't know that we didn't. 535 00:22:45,202 --> 00:22:46,703 We were launching rockets, for example, 536 00:22:46,704 --> 00:22:50,079 when, uh, a lot of them appeared over us. 537 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,204 - Right. - Yeah. 538 00:22:52,205 --> 00:22:54,289 TRAVIS: After having a month to reflect on, uh, 539 00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:55,832 all the things we did, 540 00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:58,249 the one thing that I just can't seem to, uh, 541 00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:59,876 quit thinking about, really, 542 00:22:59,877 --> 00:23:02,084 is while we were launching those rockets, 543 00:23:02,085 --> 00:23:03,669 we had all these experiences, 544 00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:05,752 saw all these UFOs appearing in the sky. 545 00:23:05,753 --> 00:23:07,588 - THOMAS: Look, look, look! - ERIK: What is that? 546 00:23:07,589 --> 00:23:09,212 TRAVIS: And we measured it with all these instruments. 547 00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:11,923 I wonder, were we communicating with whatever 548 00:23:11,924 --> 00:23:14,174 this phenomenon is by launching these rockets and it said, 549 00:23:14,175 --> 00:23:16,550 "Hey, we're here," and they said, "Hey," back? 550 00:23:16,551 --> 00:23:18,009 - Oh, there it is again! - There it is again! 551 00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:20,093 - It's still in the same spot. - BRYANT: Right there. 552 00:23:20,094 --> 00:23:23,178 There's some communication possibly taking place 553 00:23:23,179 --> 00:23:27,972 in response to the experiments that you launched. 554 00:23:27,973 --> 00:23:30,015 - Right. - ERIK: And also, 555 00:23:30,016 --> 00:23:32,850 if there are connections, what are they? 556 00:23:32,851 --> 00:23:36,101 Are we intelligent enough, are we intuitive enough, perhaps, 557 00:23:36,102 --> 00:23:40,061 to-to understand if, in fact, we're being communicated with? 558 00:23:40,062 --> 00:23:42,437 - Yep. - Do any of the things that we've observed 559 00:23:42,438 --> 00:23:46,106 constitute communication? 560 00:23:46,107 --> 00:23:48,815 Well, there's absolutely no disputing the fact 561 00:23:48,816 --> 00:23:54,360 that we launched rockets, phenomena occurred. 562 00:23:54,361 --> 00:23:57,737 I mean, within seconds and minutes of each other. 563 00:23:57,738 --> 00:24:01,530 It would be interesting to say it's just serendipitous, 564 00:24:01,531 --> 00:24:03,989 but never before on the ranch 565 00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:06,908 have you guys reported a- this much activity at one time. 566 00:24:06,909 --> 00:24:08,325 JIM: Not to this level. 567 00:24:08,326 --> 00:24:11,160 - It's unexplainable. - Yep. 568 00:24:11,161 --> 00:24:14,620 SEGALA: We've never had physical evidence 569 00:24:14,621 --> 00:24:16,662 that we actually saw with our own eyes. 570 00:24:16,663 --> 00:24:20,289 We've never had recorded, electronically recorded data 571 00:24:20,290 --> 00:24:23,249 that we took with instruments. I mean, this is amazing. 572 00:24:23,250 --> 00:24:25,124 - Yeah. - SEAN: And for those of us who look at 573 00:24:25,125 --> 00:24:27,585 - a lot of evidence, that's the most credible type of evidence. - Yep. 574 00:24:27,586 --> 00:24:30,586 The stuff that's happening right in front of your eyes, right? 575 00:24:30,587 --> 00:24:35,213 No-no chance for someone's memory to-to fade or to distort, 576 00:24:35,214 --> 00:24:36,589 um, so that's im- that's impressive. 577 00:24:36,590 --> 00:24:38,464 TRAVIS: So-so, what it tells us is, 578 00:24:38,465 --> 00:24:40,966 by-without- beyond a shadow of a doubt, 579 00:24:40,967 --> 00:24:42,549 there is some phenomena occurring 580 00:24:42,550 --> 00:24:44,219 and we have measured the phenomena. 581 00:24:45,469 --> 00:24:47,427 The phenomena is real. 582 00:24:47,428 --> 00:24:50,094 Now the question is: what is this phenomena? 583 00:24:50,095 --> 00:24:52,013 - Fascinating. - SEGALA: So, 584 00:24:52,014 --> 00:24:54,430 technologically now, we've advanced this whole thing, 585 00:24:54,431 --> 00:24:55,973 very, very high- to a high level. 586 00:24:55,974 --> 00:24:58,432 Which means that we can take the next level. 587 00:24:58,433 --> 00:25:00,183 - Right. - Why can't we communicate with them? 588 00:25:00,184 --> 00:25:02,434 So, now that brings up all these moral issues, 589 00:25:02,435 --> 00:25:03,976 that falls on your shoulders. 590 00:25:03,977 --> 00:25:05,102 TRAVIS: Whatever these are, 591 00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:06,978 are saying, "Hey." 592 00:25:06,979 --> 00:25:09,230 Do we have permission to say hi back? 593 00:25:09,231 --> 00:25:11,313 - Yeah. - SEAN: There are government agencies 594 00:25:11,314 --> 00:25:13,357 and divisions for interactions. 595 00:25:13,358 --> 00:25:15,148 Uh, we had them when we flew to the Moon. 596 00:25:15,149 --> 00:25:17,567 We had to prepare just in case, 597 00:25:17,568 --> 00:25:19,567 even in a one in a million chance 598 00:25:19,568 --> 00:25:21,735 that we made first contact. 599 00:25:21,736 --> 00:25:25,196 How do we interact? Who's gonna interact? 600 00:25:25,197 --> 00:25:26,821 What-What's the message? 601 00:25:26,822 --> 00:25:29,447 - Yeah, what are the protocols? - Yeah, that's right. 602 00:25:29,448 --> 00:25:31,407 - That's it. Exactly. - Right. 603 00:25:31,408 --> 00:25:33,282 Maybe that's what we do, is just follow, uh, 604 00:25:33,283 --> 00:25:36,075 what's in that particular guidance. 605 00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:37,368 Yeah. 606 00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:39,536 - Right. - ERIK: You know, as I've been listening, 607 00:25:39,537 --> 00:25:42,913 you know, my head is swimming with-with ideas 608 00:25:42,914 --> 00:25:44,872 about what it all means. 609 00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:48,957 Do you have something you'd like to share 610 00:25:48,958 --> 00:25:50,874 and illustrate for us? 611 00:25:50,875 --> 00:25:52,626 I do have something, if we're ready for that. 612 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,341 ERIK: Recently, I've been preparing, 613 00:26:07,342 --> 00:26:08,967 I guess, we'll call it a model 614 00:26:08,968 --> 00:26:11,635 prompted by, uh, measurements of RF, 615 00:26:11,636 --> 00:26:13,969 in particular microwave frequencies, 616 00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:16,345 we've observed this summer. 617 00:26:16,346 --> 00:26:18,680 For example, if there were a source 618 00:26:18,681 --> 00:26:22,348 projecting energy downward, towards the ground, 619 00:26:22,349 --> 00:26:25,183 then what we see in the model represents how 620 00:26:25,184 --> 00:26:27,725 it would be reflected by the terrain into the space above. 621 00:26:27,726 --> 00:26:30,102 TRAVIS: One of our theories is 622 00:26:30,103 --> 00:26:33,979 that the Uinta Basin looks like a very large, uh, radio antenna. 623 00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:36,021 It's a-a dish, 'cause it's shaped 624 00:26:36,022 --> 00:26:37,981 - parabolically. - Right. 625 00:26:37,982 --> 00:26:39,398 TRAVIS: And so, if that's the case, 626 00:26:39,399 --> 00:26:41,691 whatever these weird signals we're seeing, 627 00:26:41,692 --> 00:26:44,067 they're bouncing off of it and being focused to somewhere, 628 00:26:44,068 --> 00:26:46,068 just like a dish focuses the energy. 629 00:26:46,069 --> 00:26:47,860 ERIK: So, Attorney General Reyes, 630 00:26:47,861 --> 00:26:50,279 what we're doing is we're-we're fleshing out a hypothesis. 631 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,279 Okay? 632 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,612 We have some measurements. 633 00:26:52,613 --> 00:26:55,073 We have some data that are very suggestive, 634 00:26:55,074 --> 00:26:57,949 that maybe what Travis just described 635 00:26:57,950 --> 00:27:00,783 is relevant somehow to what's going on. 636 00:27:00,784 --> 00:27:03,451 And so, to visualize that problem, 637 00:27:03,452 --> 00:27:05,119 I decided to build this model. 638 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,704 So, what I'd like to do is to share 639 00:27:07,705 --> 00:27:10,454 some of the results of the modeling. 640 00:27:10,455 --> 00:27:13,831 So, the data that we used to build this model comes from 641 00:27:13,832 --> 00:27:16,957 the United States Geologic Survey. 642 00:27:16,958 --> 00:27:21,376 This is terrain data that tells us what the lay of the land is. 643 00:27:21,377 --> 00:27:22,627 And we plugged that into the model 644 00:27:22,628 --> 00:27:24,837 and then turn it into a reflector. 645 00:27:24,838 --> 00:27:28,715 So we should all recognize this geography. 646 00:27:29,756 --> 00:27:31,548 - BRANDON: Wow. - That's awesome. 647 00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:33,716 ERIK: So we're going to focus on 648 00:27:33,717 --> 00:27:35,466 the things that may happen that intersect 649 00:27:35,467 --> 00:27:37,551 with the ranch property. 650 00:27:37,552 --> 00:27:39,427 We are located 651 00:27:39,428 --> 00:27:41,803 where you see that graphic. 652 00:27:41,804 --> 00:27:43,262 TRAVIS: Right-Almost dead center. 653 00:27:43,263 --> 00:27:44,513 ERIK: Yes. 654 00:27:44,514 --> 00:27:47,848 So, what I did was construct a... 655 00:27:47,849 --> 00:27:51,224 60,000-square-kilometer mirror. 656 00:27:51,225 --> 00:27:53,976 And then producing a line 657 00:27:53,977 --> 00:27:57,352 of what you just described as radiation coming down 658 00:27:57,353 --> 00:27:59,186 from above, okay? 659 00:27:59,187 --> 00:28:02,480 So, we're going to look at how those rays, 660 00:28:02,481 --> 00:28:06,149 uh, interact with and reflect from this surface, 661 00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:08,774 which is what this next visual shows us. 662 00:28:08,775 --> 00:28:11,776 - BRANDON: Wow. - JIM: Geez, Louise. 663 00:28:13,069 --> 00:28:14,694 ERIK: This represents measurements 664 00:28:14,695 --> 00:28:18,070 of microwave frequencies that we had in the summer. 665 00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:19,529 We are looking at 666 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:22,239 parallel rays of energy coming down from above. 667 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,907 Primarily for long wavelengths, 668 00:28:24,908 --> 00:28:27,576 not necessarily visible light. 669 00:28:27,577 --> 00:28:30,201 - BRYANT: Incredible. It's really cool. - Yeah. 670 00:28:30,202 --> 00:28:32,869 If you'll look at the ones right in the center, 671 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:34,245 they're being focused. 672 00:28:34,246 --> 00:28:35,747 And the ones at the edge, 673 00:28:35,748 --> 00:28:38,539 you can see there is a significant focus, 674 00:28:38,540 --> 00:28:41,373 where these things are being brought to a point 675 00:28:41,374 --> 00:28:43,666 and there's mu- a big concentration of energy 676 00:28:43,667 --> 00:28:44,875 up here somewhere. 677 00:28:44,876 --> 00:28:48,002 If you think about it, that is amazing. 678 00:28:48,003 --> 00:28:49,044 Erik, this is so cool. 679 00:28:49,045 --> 00:28:50,419 Impressive. 680 00:28:50,420 --> 00:28:52,087 TRAVIS: Based on Erik's visualization, 681 00:28:52,088 --> 00:28:54,087 I believe that the Uinta Basin 682 00:28:54,088 --> 00:28:56,131 could be acting almost like a satellite dish, 683 00:28:56,132 --> 00:28:57,423 one that both collects 684 00:28:57,424 --> 00:29:00,925 and directs energy from somewhere out in space. 685 00:29:00,926 --> 00:29:02,717 Big question. 686 00:29:02,718 --> 00:29:06,635 What could be causing this energy? 687 00:29:06,636 --> 00:29:07,636 TRAVIS: That's the big question. 688 00:29:07,637 --> 00:29:09,429 That is the question of the day. 689 00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:11,180 TRAVIS: So, there's two possibilities. 690 00:29:11,181 --> 00:29:13,389 Right now, we're thinking, "Okay, it's a- 691 00:29:13,390 --> 00:29:15,348 it's a- it's a reflective dish." 692 00:29:15,349 --> 00:29:18,184 And so maybe the energy's coming from space 693 00:29:18,185 --> 00:29:20,601 and it hits and it's being focused up. Or... 694 00:29:20,602 --> 00:29:22,352 the other possibility is 695 00:29:22,353 --> 00:29:25,395 this could be acting like a lens and not just a dish. 696 00:29:25,396 --> 00:29:28,438 The source could be down here, inside the Earth, 697 00:29:28,439 --> 00:29:31,105 and coming up through it and focusing. 698 00:29:31,106 --> 00:29:32,565 But to what end, we don't know. 699 00:29:32,566 --> 00:29:35,149 And-and we've got to come up with other measurements 700 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:37,026 to figure out where the energy's coming from. 701 00:29:37,027 --> 00:29:38,276 Hmm. 702 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,319 BRYANT: So, we've had the debate of whether 703 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,321 it's below the Earth or coming from above. I mean, 704 00:29:43,322 --> 00:29:44,862 it could be a combination of the two. 705 00:29:44,863 --> 00:29:47,031 Absolutely. I agree. I agree 100%. 706 00:29:47,032 --> 00:29:48,655 There's a source and a destination, 707 00:29:48,656 --> 00:29:50,157 - whether, you know... - Yeah. Yeah, there's- 708 00:29:50,158 --> 00:29:52,574 One of them's a-There's a source and-and to what end. 709 00:29:52,575 --> 00:29:54,451 We got to find out where they're coming from. 710 00:29:54,452 --> 00:29:55,701 Yeah. 711 00:29:55,702 --> 00:29:58,161 ERIK: Now, this also reminds me 712 00:29:58,162 --> 00:29:59,495 of something that- 713 00:29:59,496 --> 00:30:02,329 what I found kind of troubling during the summer. 714 00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:05,164 You recall, you did an exercise 715 00:30:05,165 --> 00:30:08,832 where you seemingly located a source, 716 00:30:08,833 --> 00:30:11,709 uh, a concentration of signals, 717 00:30:11,710 --> 00:30:13,375 uh, fairly low. 718 00:30:13,376 --> 00:30:16,003 At about 5,000 feet. And I was just thinking about that. 719 00:30:16,004 --> 00:30:17,586 ERIK: Right, and could you point 720 00:30:17,587 --> 00:30:20,005 in the-in the vicinity of where you think that was? 721 00:30:20,006 --> 00:30:21,421 TRAVIS: Yeah. 722 00:30:21,422 --> 00:30:23,423 So, right in here, 723 00:30:23,424 --> 00:30:25,882 you can see there is some convergence right there. 724 00:30:25,883 --> 00:30:28,008 There was a local focus, 725 00:30:28,009 --> 00:30:30,593 and we launched a weather balloon with radio frequency 726 00:30:30,594 --> 00:30:32,094 and microwave instruments on it. 727 00:30:32,095 --> 00:30:33,928 And when it got to about that height, 728 00:30:33,929 --> 00:30:35,721 the instruments started failing. 729 00:30:36,764 --> 00:30:37,931 You guys ready? 730 00:30:37,932 --> 00:30:38,971 - Yep, we're good. - Yep. Good to go. 731 00:30:38,972 --> 00:30:40,014 TRAVIS: All right, here we go. 732 00:30:40,015 --> 00:30:42,057 All right, slowly let it up. 733 00:30:42,058 --> 00:30:44,350 All right, keep going. You're good. 734 00:30:44,351 --> 00:30:47,017 - THOMAS: Okay, we're clear. - TRAVIS: All right. 735 00:30:47,018 --> 00:30:48,727 THOMAS: Man, that's a big balloon. 736 00:30:48,728 --> 00:30:51,394 Yeah, ain't that cool? 737 00:30:51,395 --> 00:30:52,728 THOMAS: Man, that's a long ways up. 738 00:30:52,729 --> 00:30:54,730 TRAVIS: Heck yeah. 739 00:30:54,731 --> 00:30:56,772 It failed right there, 740 00:30:56,773 --> 00:30:59,107 which suggests maybe the power was so high 741 00:30:59,108 --> 00:31:01,441 that it burned out the instruments. 742 00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:03,026 Wow. 743 00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:05,276 BRYANT: And whether it's just bad luck or not, 744 00:31:05,277 --> 00:31:06,861 we never recovered the balloon, even. 745 00:31:06,862 --> 00:31:08,569 - SEAN: Interesting. - BRANDON: You never recovered 746 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:09,654 - the balloon? - BRYANT: No. No. 747 00:31:09,655 --> 00:31:10,987 TRAVIS: And we had GPS trackers on it. 748 00:31:10,988 --> 00:31:13,322 So, you lost it. When it hit that point, 749 00:31:13,323 --> 00:31:15,906 all of the instruments failed? 750 00:31:15,907 --> 00:31:17,282 All the other instruments failed. 751 00:31:17,283 --> 00:31:18,617 What? 752 00:31:20,785 --> 00:31:21,993 Wow. 753 00:31:23,954 --> 00:31:26,245 TRAVIS: You know, it's really intriguing 754 00:31:26,246 --> 00:31:29,454 and, um, actually kind of startling a little bit 755 00:31:29,455 --> 00:31:31,665 is I've been contacted by, uh, 756 00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:33,289 some folks in the intelligence community 757 00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:37,208 that are really interested in what we've found. 758 00:31:37,209 --> 00:31:39,377 BRYANT: So, 759 00:31:39,378 --> 00:31:40,627 is it they approached you? 760 00:31:40,628 --> 00:31:41,669 How have they heard about... 761 00:31:41,670 --> 00:31:43,461 They approached us. 762 00:31:43,462 --> 00:31:45,838 Wow. So we're being monitored? 763 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:47,256 Yep. 764 00:31:56,052 --> 00:31:58,677 So we're being monitored? 765 00:31:58,678 --> 00:32:00,720 There are people interested in what we are doing. 766 00:32:00,721 --> 00:32:02,387 I find that really intriguing. 767 00:32:02,388 --> 00:32:05,597 They're gonna tell us something, I don't know what. 768 00:32:05,598 --> 00:32:08,348 But my suspicion is they've measured a similar phenomenon, 769 00:32:08,349 --> 00:32:10,474 don't know what it is, and they want to compare notes. 770 00:32:10,475 --> 00:32:13,309 And I find that really intriguing. 771 00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:15,852 It's very strange. 772 00:32:15,853 --> 00:32:17,353 Hmm. 773 00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:18,854 So what this tells us though is 774 00:32:18,855 --> 00:32:21,272 there are real government organizations, 775 00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:24,106 who are interested in this phenomena 776 00:32:24,107 --> 00:32:26,858 and-and are taking it seriously. 777 00:32:26,859 --> 00:32:28,024 BRANDON: Wow. 778 00:32:28,025 --> 00:32:30,276 TRAVIS: After being contacted 779 00:32:30,277 --> 00:32:31,943 by representatives of the government, 780 00:32:31,944 --> 00:32:34,027 including some folks in the intelligence community, 781 00:32:34,028 --> 00:32:36,404 it was clear to me that someone had 782 00:32:36,405 --> 00:32:38,655 been following our progress on the ranch. 783 00:32:38,656 --> 00:32:41,156 THOMAS: Look at that-what is that? 784 00:32:41,157 --> 00:32:43,366 - There's a helicopter right up there. - Yeah, sure is. 785 00:32:43,367 --> 00:32:44,949 THOMAS: You can hear it. 786 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:46,951 TRAVIS: That dude's hovering right there. 787 00:32:46,952 --> 00:32:49,076 I think somebody's watching us right now. 788 00:32:49,077 --> 00:32:50,744 That's exactly what it looks like. 789 00:32:50,745 --> 00:32:52,703 TRAVIS: I think they're-they're watching us, guys. 790 00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:54,329 ERIK: So, guys, I'm gonna try to go in, 791 00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:55,746 and look at the transponder data. 792 00:32:55,747 --> 00:32:57,164 See if I can figure out who it is. 793 00:32:57,165 --> 00:32:58,915 Yeah, that's a good idea, Erik. 794 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,458 They should by law, right, be transponding. 795 00:33:03,459 --> 00:33:05,126 What we got, Erik? 796 00:33:05,127 --> 00:33:06,752 They didn't show up at all. 797 00:33:08,254 --> 00:33:10,086 BRYANT: So do you have a fear 798 00:33:10,087 --> 00:33:12,463 that there's the possibility of them shutting us down or...? 799 00:33:12,464 --> 00:33:14,755 - TRAVIS: No, you know... - I don't think so, I think it's 800 00:33:14,756 --> 00:33:17,382 more they're gonna encourage us to go in a direction. 801 00:33:17,383 --> 00:33:19,258 But do they want 802 00:33:19,259 --> 00:33:20,925 the world to know what's happening? 803 00:33:20,926 --> 00:33:23,468 They won't tell anybody. 804 00:33:23,469 --> 00:33:25,344 They may not, but, I mean... 805 00:33:25,345 --> 00:33:26,553 I doubt they will acknowledge that they 806 00:33:26,554 --> 00:33:27,887 ever had the meeting with us. 807 00:33:27,888 --> 00:33:29,013 Uh, but they will know 808 00:33:29,014 --> 00:33:31,096 what we know at that point. 809 00:33:31,097 --> 00:33:32,973 Yeah, the fact that we're being monitored, 810 00:33:32,974 --> 00:33:36,892 that our efforts have received a higher level 811 00:33:36,893 --> 00:33:39,809 of attention and awareness within those channels, 812 00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:43,227 I think speaks to the reality of this ranch. 813 00:33:43,228 --> 00:33:44,478 Absolutely, I agree. 814 00:33:44,479 --> 00:33:45,562 I agree 100%. 815 00:33:45,563 --> 00:33:47,354 BRANDON: As we have obtained 816 00:33:47,355 --> 00:33:49,105 all of this data and evidence, 817 00:33:49,106 --> 00:33:50,815 I think now 818 00:33:50,816 --> 00:33:52,899 it is our responsibility to take this forward. 819 00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:54,942 But I'd like to hear 820 00:33:54,943 --> 00:33:56,859 from the team, you know, 821 00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:58,319 what do we need to implement 822 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,027 that will help us advance this research 823 00:34:00,028 --> 00:34:01,570 to the next level? 824 00:34:01,571 --> 00:34:03,695 ERIK: So, naturally, I'm interested 825 00:34:03,696 --> 00:34:07,198 in increasing our instrumentation bandwidth. 826 00:34:07,199 --> 00:34:09,699 Our virtual presence on the property. 827 00:34:09,700 --> 00:34:12,325 I mean, we can't always be present. 828 00:34:12,326 --> 00:34:13,868 At the same time, I have a feeling- 829 00:34:13,869 --> 00:34:16,077 more than a feeling- I have the data 830 00:34:16,078 --> 00:34:18,369 that suggests that there are things taking place 831 00:34:18,370 --> 00:34:20,787 all the time that are part of this puzzle, 832 00:34:20,788 --> 00:34:22,288 and we want to collect as much of that as possible. 833 00:34:22,289 --> 00:34:24,498 BRYANT: That's a great idea. 834 00:34:24,499 --> 00:34:27,124 TRAVIS: So another experiment that we really should do, 835 00:34:27,125 --> 00:34:30,083 also, is that we should design 836 00:34:30,084 --> 00:34:36,086 and construct a very good, small satellite platform 837 00:34:36,087 --> 00:34:39,172 that we can get launched as a secondary payload, 838 00:34:39,173 --> 00:34:41,672 uh, pretty much for free- NASA has projects- 839 00:34:41,673 --> 00:34:43,089 especially if we involve a university. 840 00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:44,591 They'll launch it for you for free. 841 00:34:44,592 --> 00:34:45,799 You don't have to pay to get it launched. 842 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,759 And-and we would put it in an orbit 843 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,469 that goes over the ranch. 844 00:34:49,470 --> 00:34:50,843 BRANDON: Wow. 845 00:34:50,844 --> 00:34:52,803 TRAVIS: And so that we would 846 00:34:52,804 --> 00:34:54,595 continually get data from it. 847 00:34:54,596 --> 00:34:55,721 Wow. 848 00:34:55,722 --> 00:34:58,472 TRAVIS: I want to try and 849 00:34:58,473 --> 00:35:01,265 reproduce stimulating the phenomenon. 850 00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:04,558 Like the rocket test day, where we were 851 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:06,310 doing measurements with the rockets, 852 00:35:06,311 --> 00:35:09,394 and then, suddenly, we see so many phenomena. 853 00:35:09,395 --> 00:35:11,978 I want to see if we can reproduce that. 854 00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,773 Thomas has-has said before, maybe the ranch 855 00:35:14,774 --> 00:35:18,316 gets immune to it and we have to bring it up a notch each time. 856 00:35:18,317 --> 00:35:21,567 You know, do we do twice as many rockets the next time? 857 00:35:21,568 --> 00:35:23,859 Or do we do one bigger rocket? 858 00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:26,319 - That is something we should really look at. - Right. 859 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,237 SEGALA: So what I would propose, 860 00:35:28,238 --> 00:35:31,322 I think that it's important that we have a medical program 861 00:35:31,323 --> 00:35:33,864 with protocols in place before anybody 862 00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:36,407 steps back on that ranch in a significant way. 863 00:35:36,408 --> 00:35:38,116 BRANDON: Yeah, health and safety 864 00:35:38,117 --> 00:35:40,451 is going to be important, especially given the fact that 865 00:35:40,452 --> 00:35:42,327 Tom and Travis 866 00:35:42,328 --> 00:35:44,869 both went to the hospital as a result 867 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:47,871 of the activities over the last few months. 868 00:35:47,872 --> 00:35:50,206 TRAVIS: It would've been great to have had 869 00:35:50,207 --> 00:35:51,873 my vitals and all that 870 00:35:51,874 --> 00:35:54,375 being recorded when the dosimeter went off, 871 00:35:54,376 --> 00:35:56,209 and said I was exposed to radiation. 872 00:35:56,210 --> 00:35:57,876 SEGALA: There is something going on. 873 00:35:57,877 --> 00:35:59,961 It seems to emanate from the ground. 874 00:35:59,962 --> 00:36:03,087 How can we learn more about it? 875 00:36:03,088 --> 00:36:05,089 TRAVIS: That's what I want to know-how can we get 876 00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:06,838 a really deep core sample? 877 00:36:06,839 --> 00:36:09,631 Like, like, can we dig really, really, really deep? 878 00:36:09,632 --> 00:36:11,341 BRYANT: How do you feel about 879 00:36:11,342 --> 00:36:13,800 doing that digging, though, or would you want to hire somebody? 880 00:36:13,801 --> 00:36:15,718 Because even when we did the core drilling, 881 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,053 you know, you chose to position yourself away. 882 00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:20,637 And you're the one that has suffered 883 00:36:20,638 --> 00:36:21,930 the ramifications of the digging 884 00:36:21,931 --> 00:36:23,763 and this goes way back to what we talked about 885 00:36:23,764 --> 00:36:25,723 when we first began this exercise. 886 00:36:25,724 --> 00:36:28,141 I don't want to put you in harm's way. 887 00:36:37,021 --> 00:36:39,271 YANT: How do you feel about doing that digging? 888 00:36:39,272 --> 00:36:42,106 I don't want to put you in harm's way. 889 00:36:42,107 --> 00:36:45,149 I don't want you to feel like you're pushed into that. 890 00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:46,567 THOMAS: Well, the points 891 00:36:46,568 --> 00:36:48,693 that we identified are not that deep. 892 00:36:48,694 --> 00:36:50,360 They're not that far down. 893 00:36:50,361 --> 00:36:52,443 15, 20 feet is not a big deal. 894 00:36:52,444 --> 00:36:54,237 I'm just gonna wear my tinfoil hard hat. 895 00:36:54,238 --> 00:36:57,905 (laughter) 896 00:36:57,906 --> 00:36:59,574 THOMAS: I do have a lot of people around me 897 00:36:59,575 --> 00:37:02,074 that think, without a doubt, 898 00:37:02,075 --> 00:37:04,075 my injury was tied to the digging. 899 00:37:04,076 --> 00:37:06,702 Well, it's not conclusive that it was the digging. 900 00:37:06,703 --> 00:37:08,868 So that's why there's part of me that said, 901 00:37:08,869 --> 00:37:11,495 "Yeah, I would, I'd just be very cautious." 902 00:37:11,496 --> 00:37:14,788 I have a question for you guys, though. 903 00:37:14,789 --> 00:37:18,164 For the first time since you've owned the ranch, 904 00:37:18,165 --> 00:37:21,000 this is the largest group of people to be on that ranch. 905 00:37:21,001 --> 00:37:22,834 And I know, you know, you were, 906 00:37:22,835 --> 00:37:24,794 you were giving me a hard time at the beginning 907 00:37:24,795 --> 00:37:26,460 'cause you said it's almost like 908 00:37:26,461 --> 00:37:28,129 you guys talk as if this ranch has a personality. 909 00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:30,504 Because we talked about how when you introduce... 910 00:37:30,505 --> 00:37:33,339 - It responds, yeah. - ...somebody new, the ranch responds. 911 00:37:33,340 --> 00:37:35,840 - It's not a person. - It's a place, it's not a, it's not a, an entity. 912 00:37:35,841 --> 00:37:38,383 But it responded. 913 00:37:38,384 --> 00:37:41,218 - Yeah. - I have to tell you guys, 914 00:37:41,219 --> 00:37:42,926 when Brandon first invited me in, 915 00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,344 the first day I came in here, 916 00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:47,178 I honestly didn't know what to expect. 917 00:37:47,179 --> 00:37:50,264 But I didn't think you guys were really onto 918 00:37:50,265 --> 00:37:52,974 what you were onto because I don't believe 919 00:37:52,975 --> 00:37:57,225 99% of the things that people claim they've seen, right? 920 00:37:57,226 --> 00:38:00,519 I think this is in that one percent 921 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,729 of the unexplainable weirdness- the "what is it?" 922 00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:04,729 And now we've 923 00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:07,564 got indisputable evidence 924 00:38:07,565 --> 00:38:11,275 that there is a real phenomenon that's happening 925 00:38:11,276 --> 00:38:12,733 that is unexplainable. 926 00:38:12,734 --> 00:38:13,984 Whatever you want to call it. 927 00:38:13,985 --> 00:38:15,401 High strangeness? 928 00:38:15,402 --> 00:38:17,611 It's real and it's there. 929 00:38:17,612 --> 00:38:20,570 And I think the ramifications of it is world-changing. 930 00:38:20,571 --> 00:38:22,238 Agreed. 931 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,030 And I'll tell you what I told you 932 00:38:24,031 --> 00:38:25,698 when we started on this adventure. 933 00:38:25,699 --> 00:38:27,574 I truly believe now more than ever, 934 00:38:27,575 --> 00:38:30,325 if this ranch can help us better understand 935 00:38:30,326 --> 00:38:32,409 the nature of the universe, 936 00:38:32,410 --> 00:38:34,577 and perhaps confirm that we're not alone, 937 00:38:34,578 --> 00:38:37,202 this will indeed be 938 00:38:37,203 --> 00:38:40,997 the greatest science project and endeavor of all time. 939 00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,373 - Right. - And... 940 00:38:44,374 --> 00:38:46,833 as we move forward and take next steps, 941 00:38:46,834 --> 00:38:48,876 we appreciate you coming in and spending the time. 942 00:38:48,877 --> 00:38:50,627 Well, you have my personal interest, Brandon. 943 00:38:50,628 --> 00:38:53,794 And I just want to make sure you all understand, 944 00:38:53,795 --> 00:38:55,462 I take this very seriously. 945 00:38:55,463 --> 00:38:58,421 And so, as you all continue 946 00:38:58,422 --> 00:39:00,298 to validate, replicate, uh... 947 00:39:00,299 --> 00:39:04,216 and investigate, uh, even more, I am anxious to see 948 00:39:04,217 --> 00:39:06,634 what the next... step brings. 949 00:39:06,635 --> 00:39:10,594 And I think that only helps the entire state. 950 00:39:10,595 --> 00:39:12,845 - So thanks very much. - Thank you very much. 951 00:39:12,846 --> 00:39:14,929 - We appreciate that endorsement. - BRANDON: Thank you. 952 00:39:14,930 --> 00:39:17,014 We'll continue to keep you informed, 953 00:39:17,015 --> 00:39:19,724 as to what we continue to observe. 954 00:39:19,725 --> 00:39:23,100 And, ultimately, what we discover as we move forward. 955 00:39:23,101 --> 00:39:24,851 - Let's go. - BRANDON: Thank you, gentlemen. 956 00:39:24,852 --> 00:39:27,019 Great, looking forward to it. 957 00:39:27,020 --> 00:39:29,437 BRANDON: Given the extraordinary events that have been observed 958 00:39:29,438 --> 00:39:31,771 and recorded over the last several months, 959 00:39:31,772 --> 00:39:33,314 I believe that we 960 00:39:33,315 --> 00:39:35,898 have a responsibility to take this forward 961 00:39:35,899 --> 00:39:38,776 in a, in a more aggressive fashion. 962 00:39:39,859 --> 00:39:42,109 It's not a matter of if 963 00:39:42,110 --> 00:39:43,860 something is going to happen. 964 00:39:43,861 --> 00:39:46,862 It's a matter of when that will happen 965 00:39:46,863 --> 00:39:48,862 and if we are truly prepared. 966 00:39:48,863 --> 00:39:50,113 - There it is! - There it is again. 967 00:39:50,114 --> 00:39:52,031 It is clearly a beam. 968 00:39:52,032 --> 00:39:53,281 SEGALA: This was an amazing summer. 969 00:39:53,282 --> 00:39:54,491 Ignition! 970 00:39:54,492 --> 00:39:55,700 I think the pinnacle 971 00:39:55,701 --> 00:39:58,451 was that we actually saw UFOs. 972 00:39:58,452 --> 00:40:00,035 - Look, look, look! - What is that? 973 00:40:00,036 --> 00:40:01,744 Now that we know exactly what they look like 974 00:40:01,745 --> 00:40:03,703 in the sky, we can start tracking these things. 975 00:40:03,704 --> 00:40:05,829 We can actually set up a system 976 00:40:05,830 --> 00:40:07,872 that can communicate with them 977 00:40:07,873 --> 00:40:09,873 in some regard, by sending them signals 978 00:40:09,874 --> 00:40:11,666 to see if they respond. 979 00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:14,041 - There it is again! - SEGALA: That would be 980 00:40:14,042 --> 00:40:16,919 the next step in this evolution of trying 981 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,585 to figure out what they are doing here, 982 00:40:18,586 --> 00:40:20,128 and why they picked this ranch 983 00:40:20,129 --> 00:40:22,253 or this area to do it. 984 00:40:22,254 --> 00:40:24,631 BRYANT: When I first came to the ranch, 985 00:40:24,632 --> 00:40:27,006 I was kind of an agnostic, when it came to the place. 986 00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:29,840 It's not that I didn't believe that things were happening, 987 00:40:29,841 --> 00:40:32,884 but they sounded pretty amazing and outlandish to me. 988 00:40:32,885 --> 00:40:34,259 Oh-oh, right here, over here! 989 00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:36,594 - Right there. - That's it. 990 00:40:36,595 --> 00:40:38,970 But after experiencing what I did this summer, 991 00:40:38,971 --> 00:40:41,722 there's no doubt in my mind that there's a phenomenon 992 00:40:41,723 --> 00:40:43,597 or something taking place there 993 00:40:43,598 --> 00:40:45,724 that has completely shaken my understanding 994 00:40:45,725 --> 00:40:47,307 on what reality really is. 995 00:40:47,308 --> 00:40:48,809 You got to see a UFO, dude. 996 00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:50,685 Dumbfounded, yeah, it's crazy. 997 00:40:50,686 --> 00:40:53,936 As we move forward, I think that we could really 998 00:40:53,937 --> 00:40:55,978 uncover something that could 999 00:40:55,979 --> 00:40:59,939 make people like myself see the world differently. 1000 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,314 Tom, you all right? 1001 00:41:01,315 --> 00:41:04,149 Well, let's get you the heck out of here, man. 1002 00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:05,191 THOMAS: Well, as they say, 1003 00:41:05,192 --> 00:41:07,485 we've opened up a can. 1004 00:41:07,486 --> 00:41:09,819 And we have just begun 1005 00:41:09,820 --> 00:41:12,820 to scratch the surface of what's happening here. 1006 00:41:12,821 --> 00:41:16,154 For every answer that we're getting in our investigation, 1007 00:41:16,155 --> 00:41:18,615 we're creating ten more questions. 1008 00:41:18,616 --> 00:41:20,573 What in the world? It's just dead. 1009 00:41:20,574 --> 00:41:22,783 THOMAS: And who knows 1010 00:41:22,784 --> 00:41:25,535 what crazy and amazing things are in store. 1011 00:41:25,536 --> 00:41:27,661 - Audio beacon is on. - Let it rip. 1012 00:41:27,662 --> 00:41:31,287 Ain't that cool. 1013 00:41:31,288 --> 00:41:32,955 It's absolutely inconceivable... 1014 00:41:32,956 --> 00:41:34,956 - Oh! - ...the amount of things 1015 00:41:34,957 --> 00:41:38,124 that we experienced and saw and measured over the summer. 1016 00:41:38,125 --> 00:41:41,583 This looks like there's something a thousand feet long. 1017 00:41:41,584 --> 00:41:44,836 We have indisputable proof that there is an unusual phenomenon 1018 00:41:44,837 --> 00:41:47,920 that is not a normal occurrence. 1019 00:41:47,921 --> 00:41:49,963 I'm excited about it. 1020 00:41:49,964 --> 00:41:52,589 I can't wait to go back and do more experiments. 1021 00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:55,257 I can't wait to see what is out there. 1022 00:41:55,258 --> 00:41:57,843 Skinwalker Ranch may hold secrets to the universe 1023 00:41:57,844 --> 00:42:00,051 that we've yet to uncover. 1024 00:42:00,052 --> 00:42:03,846 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 80769

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