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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 2 00:00:23,357 --> 00:00:27,569 Funny, shy, ever so clever, 3 00:00:27,653 --> 00:00:29,738 great musician, 4 00:00:29,821 --> 00:00:31,823 and a total twat. 5 00:00:35,244 --> 00:00:37,704 I've heard some of the end results of what he does 6 00:00:37,746 --> 00:00:40,290 when he stays up all night. 7 00:00:40,374 --> 00:00:43,794 The harmonies stack in and, you know, the music is great. 8 00:01:06,191 --> 00:01:07,568 He has done Tom Petty 9 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:09,778 and he has done Paul McCartney, 10 00:01:09,820 --> 00:01:12,614 Roy Orbison, George Harrison. 11 00:01:12,656 --> 00:01:15,659 Jeff's music just has something 12 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:28,505 That's what that was, see? 13 00:01:34,803 --> 00:01:38,682 But he is a... a great, great artist, you know 14 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:42,519 I'm glad you're doing this movie because somebody should. 15 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:49,401 He's such a great producer 16 00:01:49,484 --> 00:01:50,527 and a complete control freak, 17 00:01:50,611 --> 00:01:52,988 so he likes to, you know, do it his way. 18 00:01:57,534 --> 00:02:00,871 He hears the finished thing 19 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:03,206 way before it's done, 20 00:02:03,290 --> 00:02:09,546 and to have a musician as complete as he is, 21 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:14,426 it's a real rare, rare thing. 22 00:02:15,594 --> 00:02:17,387 He is... I mean, he's a composer, 23 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:21,308 but he's a recording artist, you know, that's what he really is. 24 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:23,226 He makes his music. 25 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:24,853 And that's all he does, really, all day, 26 00:02:24,936 --> 00:02:26,813 He makes music every day. 27 00:02:29,775 --> 00:02:32,736 The first band I loved was the Nightriders, yeah, 28 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:34,363 Mike Sheridan and the Nightriders. 29 00:02:34,446 --> 00:02:35,864 I thought they were just absolutely marvellous. 30 00:02:35,947 --> 00:02:37,949 They had the brown mohair suits for a start 31 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,494 which convinced me that they were brilliant. 32 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:44,539 So in 1966, when I saw the column in the newspaper, 33 00:02:44,581 --> 00:02:45,582 in the Birmingham Mail, 34 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:50,504 it said, "Keen lead guitarist required for Nightriders," 35 00:02:50,545 --> 00:02:53,840 I went, "What? That's me." 36 00:02:53,882 --> 00:02:56,468 Since I'd seen 'em, I'd learnt how to play 37 00:02:56,551 --> 00:02:58,387 and I was ready to join, you know. 38 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:00,889 "I hope I get in this thing 'cause it's professional." 39 00:03:00,972 --> 00:03:05,477 And I'd been doing all these horrible little menial jobs, 40 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,396 you know, 'cause I didn't really wanna go to work. 41 00:03:07,437 --> 00:03:08,772 I wanted to play my guitar. 42 00:03:08,855 --> 00:03:10,565 Hey, Lucy. 43 00:03:10,649 --> 00:03:12,818 So I've got lovely memories of those days. 44 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:14,361 Ah, that's better. 45 00:03:21,702 --> 00:03:22,369 Oi! 46 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:24,705 You have certain styles 47 00:03:24,746 --> 00:03:26,957 and certain favourite passages in music 48 00:03:27,249 --> 00:03:31,253 that have tickled you probably since you were an infant, 49 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:32,337 and I know that for a fact 50 00:03:32,421 --> 00:03:35,424 'cause there was a film called The High and the Mighty 51 00:03:35,465 --> 00:03:37,300 that I saw when I was probably about... 52 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:40,429 I went with my mum and dad to the cinema in Birmingham. 53 00:03:40,512 --> 00:03:42,222 I would be about five or something, 54 00:03:42,264 --> 00:03:44,307 and the signature tune to it... 55 00:04:02,826 --> 00:04:05,829 I remember being knocked out by it. 56 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:07,914 Oh, what a tune that is. 57 00:04:09,332 --> 00:04:11,585 But I can understand where my taste 58 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:13,795 in chords and things comes from 59 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:18,425 and it comes from way, way back from being a tiny kid. 60 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:24,973 Da-da! 61 00:04:28,977 --> 00:04:31,813 This is my very first guitar 62 00:04:31,897 --> 00:04:35,317 that my dad got for me for £2 from his friend 63 00:04:35,358 --> 00:04:38,945 and I've had it all these... 64 00:04:39,196 --> 00:04:43,867 I've had it for, Gordon Bennett, 43 years. 65 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:47,788 So... Hang on. 40... 66 00:04:49,581 --> 00:04:51,708 Something like that. A lot. 67 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:54,419 And it was kind of hard to play when I first got it, 68 00:04:54,503 --> 00:04:56,046 but now, as you can see... 69 00:05:00,842 --> 00:05:03,470 ...it plays beautifully and easily. 70 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:06,473 A real old banger, and this is the guitar 71 00:05:06,515 --> 00:05:08,809 that I wrote all my first songs on. 72 00:05:08,850 --> 00:05:13,939 And if you come in this way, I'll show you my first studio... 73 00:05:16,107 --> 00:05:17,192 ...which is right there. 74 00:05:19,361 --> 00:05:22,322 And that's called the BNO 2000 Deluxe. 75 00:05:22,364 --> 00:05:24,491 And what you can do on that is multi-track, 76 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:26,618 even though it's only a stereo tape recorder. 77 00:05:27,452 --> 00:05:30,455 You just bounce from the left to the right and back to the left 78 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:32,833 and keep adding instruments as you go. 79 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:36,086 And this is how I did... this is how I started out, basically, 80 00:05:36,753 --> 00:05:38,547 as a songwriter and a producer. 81 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:40,382 This taught me how to be a producer 82 00:05:40,465 --> 00:05:44,219 and this taught me how to be a songwriter, so not bad. 83 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:48,890 What first got me interested in music was my dad, really. 84 00:05:50,475 --> 00:05:52,394 He used to have a great record collection 85 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:54,771 but of all classical music 86 00:05:54,855 --> 00:05:58,358 and a lot of these great writers. 87 00:06:00,277 --> 00:06:06,408 ♪ And you enter sweet desire 88 00:06:07,826 --> 00:06:10,579 ♪ You took me 89 00:06:12,122 --> 00:06:16,334 ♪ Whoa-oh Higher and higher, baby 90 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:19,337 ♪ It's a living thing 91 00:06:21,965 --> 00:06:24,885 ♪ It's a terrible thing to lose 92 00:06:25,969 --> 00:06:27,554 ♪ It's a given thing 93 00:06:30,056 --> 00:06:33,268 ♪ What a terrible thing to lose 94 00:06:36,021 --> 00:06:37,188 ♪ I'm takin' a dive 95 00:06:39,691 --> 00:06:40,901 ♪ On the slide 96 00:06:54,623 --> 00:06:57,250 It was always like a... a nightmare 97 00:06:57,334 --> 00:07:00,337 getting up at like 7:30 or something to go... 98 00:07:00,629 --> 00:07:03,006 It was dark and I had to go on the bloody bus. 99 00:07:03,965 --> 00:07:05,091 Go upstairs on the bus 100 00:07:05,175 --> 00:07:07,719 and everybody's like coughing up their guts. 101 00:07:07,802 --> 00:07:10,013 And you can't see through the air in there 102 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:12,724 'cause everybody smoked in them days. 103 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:14,684 It was vile, and then you get off the other end 104 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:17,187 and you've gotta spend eight hours in this place 105 00:07:17,228 --> 00:07:18,980 where you don't really wanna be at all. 106 00:07:19,022 --> 00:07:21,274 That's why I used to have a guitar stashed somewhere. 107 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:24,611 You know, and one day I'd look when nobody's coming, 108 00:07:24,694 --> 00:07:25,695 put it behind some cupboard 109 00:07:25,737 --> 00:07:28,990 and then just pretend there's nothing there. 110 00:07:29,032 --> 00:07:31,034 Nothing... "I don't know anything about it." 111 00:07:31,076 --> 00:07:33,870 "Whose it that?" "Bloody hell. I'll have it." 112 00:07:35,872 --> 00:07:36,915 It was so marvellous 113 00:07:36,998 --> 00:07:39,626 when I didn't have to go to work that first day 114 00:07:39,709 --> 00:07:42,712 and I knew all I'd gotta do was go and practise, 115 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:44,923 and it was just the best fun you could ever have, 116 00:07:45,674 --> 00:07:47,676 and get paid for it an' all. 117 00:07:55,892 --> 00:07:58,395 The great thing was that I had a drawer full of money 118 00:07:58,853 --> 00:08:01,606 and my mum one day said, 119 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:04,067 "Where the hell did all that money come from in that drawer? 120 00:08:04,109 --> 00:08:06,069 She thought I'd nicked it or something. 121 00:08:08,113 --> 00:08:10,657 I said, "I've earned it, Mum, playing music." 122 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:14,077 "Don't be ridiculous. Where did you get that from?" 123 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:17,247 She just wasn't a big fan, I guess. 124 00:08:22,293 --> 00:08:24,921 Making their first appearance on our show this week 125 00:08:24,963 --> 00:08:28,174 is a great new group from Birmingham, The Idle Race. 126 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:29,926 Well, let's have a word with one of them. 127 00:08:29,968 --> 00:08:32,595 Roger, you've got how many records released at the moment? 128 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,640 It's not the same one in America that you have elsewhere, is it? 129 00:08:35,724 --> 00:08:37,017 We have two, one in America, 130 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,768 which is Here We Go Round the Lemon Tree, 131 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:41,938 and the song written by Jeff Lynne, our lead guitarist, 132 00:08:42,022 --> 00:08:44,691 which is called Impostors of Life's Magazine. 133 00:08:44,774 --> 00:08:46,693 Well let's give that a whirl, now, can we? 134 00:08:46,776 --> 00:08:47,986 Yeah, sure. 135 00:08:53,825 --> 00:08:57,662 ♪ How do you know what you feel 136 00:08:57,746 --> 00:08:59,998 ♪ Is it real Is it real? 137 00:09:00,081 --> 00:09:03,543 So in The Idle Race we finally got a record deal, 138 00:09:03,626 --> 00:09:06,963 so I wrote this song called Impostors of Life's Magazine. 139 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:09,007 And I can't wait for this thing to arrive in the mail, 140 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:10,133 this record that I've made, 141 00:09:10,175 --> 00:09:12,010 and it's gonna have my name on the label. 142 00:09:12,093 --> 00:09:14,095 I'm going, "Whoa! I'm gonna be a songwriter." 143 00:09:14,137 --> 00:09:16,556 The thing comes and I look at it and I go, 144 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:18,808 "What the hell is that?" 145 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:23,313 And it says, "Impostors of Life's Magazine by G Lynn" 146 00:09:23,605 --> 00:09:26,566 without the E on the end, just L-Y-N-N. 147 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:29,194 And G, I thought, "Who's that? Gordon?" 148 00:09:29,277 --> 00:09:31,821 You know, "I don't know any G Lynn round here." 149 00:09:31,863 --> 00:09:34,824 So I was very, very disappointed, very upset, 150 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:36,785 'cause, you know, it was really my big moment 151 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:39,037 and it just turned to shit. 152 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:46,586 ♪ Impostors of life's magazine 153 00:09:47,170 --> 00:09:48,546 ♪ Impostors of life's... 154 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:51,257 I loved it because we played all the pubs in Birmingham 155 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:55,053 and it was the best apprenticeship, if you like, 156 00:09:55,136 --> 00:09:57,263 for musicians that you could ever have, 157 00:09:57,347 --> 00:10:01,351 because you play in a different pub every night, 158 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:03,895 or a club, or the town hall 159 00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:06,648 or somewhere, you know, a bit further afield. 160 00:10:06,689 --> 00:10:10,026 It was quite... It got to be bigger and bigger as we played. 161 00:10:10,318 --> 00:10:13,154 And I loved playing with The Idle Race a lot. 162 00:10:13,530 --> 00:10:15,782 After four years I decided I'd join The Move, 163 00:10:16,199 --> 00:10:17,408 with Bev Bevan and Roy Wood. 164 00:10:18,118 --> 00:10:19,994 We stayed as The Move for a couple of years 165 00:10:20,203 --> 00:10:23,706 while we made this album called Electric Light Orchestra 166 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,708 which was what we decided to call it 167 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:28,628 when me and Roy used to hang out at clubs in Birmingham 168 00:10:28,711 --> 00:10:31,381 and discussed this group with strings. 169 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:44,853 ♪ Did you see your friend crying from his eyes today... 170 00:10:46,104 --> 00:10:49,858 10538 was the first one I'd eve written that got in the top ten 171 00:10:49,899 --> 00:10:51,901 so that was a big start. 172 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:56,406 It was odd because I wasn't really aware too much of ELO, 173 00:10:56,656 --> 00:11:00,326 but when I went to the concert, I realised I knew every song. 174 00:11:00,410 --> 00:11:01,578 It was extraordinary. 175 00:11:01,619 --> 00:11:03,872 So I sort of did know, you know, from the radio. 176 00:11:03,913 --> 00:11:07,167 I just didn't put 'em all together and go Jeff, ELO. 177 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,921 I think it's always a big mistake he left The Idle Race. 178 00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:14,340 I think that's a much better title for a group. 179 00:11:15,842 --> 00:11:18,178 Roy left after about three months 180 00:11:18,219 --> 00:11:19,679 and he never told us he was leaving. 181 00:11:19,721 --> 00:11:22,640 He just disappeared and had this other group called Wizzard 182 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:23,933 You know, it was a shame at the time, 183 00:11:24,184 --> 00:11:27,145 but also it proved to be a big opportunity for me 184 00:11:27,228 --> 00:11:31,274 because I was now the sole songwriter and the producer. 185 00:11:31,733 --> 00:11:34,360 I'd been doing sessions for The Move and things 186 00:11:34,402 --> 00:11:35,820 before Jeff joined. 187 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:38,656 Then he joined The Move as well and... 188 00:11:39,324 --> 00:11:41,784 And then they formed ELO and asked me to join, 189 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:44,787 and I said yes and... 190 00:11:45,997 --> 00:11:48,291 I think they wanted somebody who could play a bit of piano, 191 00:11:48,374 --> 00:11:52,212 a bit of guitar, a bit of bass and a bit of singing. 192 00:11:53,504 --> 00:11:55,465 Just to help out the various other 193 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:57,425 multi-instrumentalists in the group, 194 00:11:57,508 --> 00:11:58,676 and that's what I did. 195 00:11:58,927 --> 00:12:03,056 I invited Richard over to play with me on this film 196 00:12:03,097 --> 00:12:05,433 because he's a great piano player, 197 00:12:05,516 --> 00:12:07,060 and he's also a great guitar player, 198 00:12:07,101 --> 00:12:08,937 but the reason I wanted him there 199 00:12:08,978 --> 00:12:11,231 was 'cause he was there at the very start. 200 00:12:11,439 --> 00:12:12,398 That's it. 201 00:12:13,107 --> 00:12:14,400 Merci beaucoup. See you all next week. 202 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:21,241 ♪ Did you hear what he said? 203 00:12:21,616 --> 00:12:24,619 ♪ He said they sold me down the river 204 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:28,539 ♪ They thought I... thought I was a fool... 205 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:32,001 ♪ Said the rain would fall 206 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,088 ♪ What did they know? 207 00:12:36,464 --> 00:12:39,217 ♪ Then I saw your face 208 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:42,887 ♪ Heard the song that you were singing 209 00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:46,307 ♪ Though I thought I knew the words 210 00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:50,144 ♪ The tune was quite absurd 211 00:12:50,228 --> 00:12:52,313 ♪ And out of key 212 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:55,483 ♪ Doo dah dah Dee 213 00:12:59,237 --> 00:13:01,322 ♪ I'm steppin' out... 214 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:05,868 Usually when I start to write a song, a new one, you know, 215 00:13:05,952 --> 00:13:09,622 you'll be either messing round on the piano or the guitar 216 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:11,624 and the first thing that comes is really like 217 00:13:11,874 --> 00:13:14,335 two or three chords in sequence 218 00:13:14,377 --> 00:13:16,879 You go, "Mm, that's interesting." 219 00:13:16,963 --> 00:13:19,882 And you try and work on those two or three chords 220 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:24,137 and sort of stretch it out to a fourth and a fifth, 221 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:26,055 then you've got a tune going through it. 222 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:28,016 And your little tune's wandering in it and you're going, 223 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:29,100 "Mm, this is good." 224 00:13:29,183 --> 00:13:33,354 And some songs, you can finish 'em in 15 minutes 225 00:13:33,438 --> 00:13:35,440 and some can take three months. 226 00:13:36,107 --> 00:13:39,193 You never know how a song is gonna develop. 227 00:13:39,235 --> 00:13:44,157 ♪ I'm steppin' out I'm steppin' out 228 00:13:46,576 --> 00:13:51,331 ♪ I'm steppin' out I'm steppin' out 229 00:13:52,457 --> 00:13:54,375 ♪ I'm steppin' out 230 00:13:56,377 --> 00:13:58,254 ♪ Steppin' out 231 00:13:59,756 --> 00:14:02,008 ♪ Steppin' out 232 00:14:05,595 --> 00:14:07,138 That's it. I had it there. 233 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,098 When the Heartbreakers first kicked up, 234 00:14:09,182 --> 00:14:15,063 I had bought one of those... the first ghetto blasters, you know. 235 00:14:15,146 --> 00:14:17,565 It was a Sony, made out of metal, 236 00:14:17,648 --> 00:14:20,693 this really industrial ghetto blaster. 237 00:14:22,278 --> 00:14:24,238 And you couldn't buy many... 238 00:14:24,322 --> 00:14:26,157 Cassettes were just becoming a thing 239 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,617 and there weren't many for sale, 240 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,953 but they had an ELO one for sale and I bought that 241 00:14:31,913 --> 00:14:34,207 and I carried it around with me on tour. 242 00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:37,710 And I played it all the time and I really liked it 243 00:14:37,752 --> 00:14:42,965 and I thought, you know, just what a record maker this guy is. 244 00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:46,552 They say everyone was borrowing 245 00:14:46,594 --> 00:14:49,389 from the people they admired. 246 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:55,561 And so, you know, when I heard ELO, 247 00:14:55,603 --> 00:14:59,148 it was very what we'd been doing on Sergeant Pepper, 248 00:14:59,232 --> 00:15:01,526 this sort of... 249 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:04,695 Cellos, you know, and... 250 00:15:04,779 --> 00:15:07,031 You know, very much what we'd been into, 251 00:15:07,115 --> 00:15:09,409 very sort of mathematical strings. 252 00:15:11,452 --> 00:15:13,788 And so I think the first thing was, 253 00:15:14,038 --> 00:15:16,582 "Ooh, that's... I know where he got that from." 254 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:21,045 But then you can't resist it. It's just so good. 255 00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:23,256 You go, "Oh, God, it's a bloody good song." 256 00:15:23,297 --> 00:15:25,508 "Wish we'd done that one." You know. 257 00:15:25,591 --> 00:15:27,677 "God, he's nailed those strings. 258 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,471 "He's singing it great. That guitar's good." 259 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,224 ♪ I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor 260 00:15:33,307 --> 00:15:35,101 ♪ Don't bring me down 261 00:15:48,072 --> 00:15:50,366 ♪ Don't bring me down 262 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:51,659 ♪ Grroosss 263 00:15:51,742 --> 00:15:54,579 ♪ Don't bring me down 264 00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:55,663 ♪ Grroosss 265 00:15:55,705 --> 00:15:57,165 I actually saw ELO play 266 00:15:57,206 --> 00:15:59,542 with the full spaceship and everything. 267 00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:02,420 That was the first time I saw Jeff or met Jeff. 268 00:16:02,503 --> 00:16:05,006 He was coming out of a big spaceship with lots of robots 269 00:16:05,047 --> 00:16:06,299 and then we went to his house. 270 00:16:07,049 --> 00:16:09,594 I ended up throwing a dart into his dart board 271 00:16:09,677 --> 00:16:11,679 and it bounced off and went in my arm. 272 00:16:11,762 --> 00:16:13,181 So I remember that day. 273 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:15,183 ♪ Don't bring me down 274 00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:18,352 ♪ No, no, no, no, no 275 00:16:18,686 --> 00:16:20,354 ♪ Whoo-oo-oo 276 00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:24,692 ♪ I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor 277 00:16:24,775 --> 00:16:26,027 ♪ Don't bring me down 278 00:16:26,068 --> 00:16:30,364 You know, if you listen to something like Mr Blue Sky... 279 00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:35,536 you know, I hear it a lot in ads now and... or in movies, 280 00:16:35,578 --> 00:16:38,706 and I think it was in a movie I watched recently, 281 00:16:38,748 --> 00:16:42,502 and it was just... it's just amazing, you know. 282 00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:44,670 And it's... it's not derivative. 283 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:47,089 It's... It's not... 284 00:16:48,716 --> 00:16:51,052 It's not really coming from anybody but Jeff. 285 00:16:51,135 --> 00:16:53,346 Nobody could do it quite like that. 286 00:16:53,387 --> 00:16:54,889 And I think he's... 287 00:16:57,099 --> 00:16:59,560 He's not noticed enough for what he does, really. 288 00:16:59,644 --> 00:17:03,105 I mean, all those records are just incredible. 289 00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:08,736 You know, I mean, I'm a sucker for sort of the hits, 290 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:12,657 so Mr Blue Sky is a pretty special song. 291 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:15,284 It's probably the one that everyone would choose, 292 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,745 so it's a bit boring to choose it. 293 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,581 But it is great. I mean, it just works. 294 00:17:21,457 --> 00:17:24,418 And if you're in the car and it's a nice day, 295 00:17:25,628 --> 00:17:27,255 it really works. 296 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:08,629 You know, I re-recorded all of my old songs. 297 00:18:08,713 --> 00:18:10,298 When I heard them, either on the radio 298 00:18:10,339 --> 00:18:12,550 or just happened to play them, 299 00:18:12,633 --> 00:18:15,386 they just didn't have the sound I remembered 300 00:18:15,469 --> 00:18:18,681 or thought I'd got on them in the day I did 'em. 301 00:18:19,307 --> 00:18:23,352 Some of 'em are like 35, 36 years old, 37. 302 00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:25,354 So they are quite old, you know 303 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:28,065 and they were made on 16 track or 8 track. 304 00:18:28,941 --> 00:18:30,943 It was just nice to have all this facility of Pro Tools 305 00:18:30,985 --> 00:18:36,032 and just re-do 'em all in my own time and just... 306 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,451 In the old days I'd have to do them in like six weeks, 307 00:18:39,035 --> 00:18:41,954 write it, record it, get in there, 308 00:18:41,996 --> 00:18:44,040 finish it and be on tour playing them. 309 00:18:44,665 --> 00:18:46,667 But now I've got time to get 'em 310 00:18:46,751 --> 00:18:48,252 exactly as I really want them. 311 00:18:51,797 --> 00:18:55,051 And luckily I've managed to do it, I hope. 312 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,844 Yeah, yeah, OK, OK. 313 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:15,571 OK, that was good. Cut 'em both. 314 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,448 - Yeah. - Good, OK. 315 00:19:17,531 --> 00:19:19,075 - Two good ones. - Yeah. 316 00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:23,829 So, anyway, that's that one done. 317 00:20:00,491 --> 00:20:03,744 ♪ Well, I heard the crowd singin' out of tune 318 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,747 ♪ As they sat and sang Auld Lang Syne 319 00:20:06,831 --> 00:20:08,582 ♪ By the light of the moon 320 00:20:08,666 --> 00:20:11,627 ♪ I heard the preachers bangin' on the drums 321 00:20:12,002 --> 00:20:15,756 ♪ And I heard the police playin' with their guns 322 00:20:17,925 --> 00:20:19,802 ♪ But I... 323 00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:21,679 ♪ I... 324 00:20:21,762 --> 00:20:24,056 ♪ Never heard nothin' like you 325 00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:28,811 Just about every ELO single killed me. 326 00:20:29,395 --> 00:20:33,649 The first time I noticed him was when The Move cut Do Ya... 327 00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:39,238 I thought that was just this incredible thing, and it was, 328 00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:41,949 and then he later did it with ELO 329 00:20:42,032 --> 00:20:45,453 and it was a whole new look at that song that was really good. 330 00:20:45,536 --> 00:20:46,537 I knew I could make 'em better 331 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:47,997 because I had all these years of experience, 332 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,041 like working with George and Paul 333 00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:56,964 and Roy Orbison and Tom Petty and all these fantastic people. 334 00:20:57,006 --> 00:20:59,175 I've learned so much working with them, you know. 335 00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:02,136 I mean, hopefully they learned a bit working with me too. 336 00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:06,348 ♪ Well, I think you know what I'm trying to say, woman 337 00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:10,060 ♪ That is I'd like to save you for a rainy day, yeah 338 00:21:10,686 --> 00:21:13,439 ♪ I've seen enough of the world to know 339 00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:17,485 ♪ That I gotta get it all to get it all to grow 340 00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:20,696 ♪ Do ya, do ya want my love? 341 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:21,781 ♪ Come on now 342 00:21:21,822 --> 00:21:24,450 ♪ Do ya, do ya want my face? 343 00:21:24,492 --> 00:21:25,576 ♪ I need it 344 00:21:25,659 --> 00:21:28,120 ♪ Do ya, do ya want my mind? 345 00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:29,413 ♪ All right, yeah! 346 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,999 ♪ Do ya, do ya want my love? 347 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,044 ♪ Oh, look out! 348 00:21:39,423 --> 00:21:42,384 ♪ Do ya, do ya want my love? 349 00:21:43,219 --> 00:21:46,055 ♪ Do ya, do ya want my love? 350 00:21:46,722 --> 00:21:50,142 ♪ Oh, oh! 351 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:12,540 ♪ Only the lonely 352 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:16,585 ♪ Only the lonely... 353 00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:18,712 Only The Lonely, I suppose, 354 00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:21,882 is the first one of those thing when I was real young 355 00:22:21,966 --> 00:22:23,384 that I heard and thought, 356 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:26,971 "My God, how does that happen? What is that? How does it work? 357 00:22:27,054 --> 00:22:28,722 "How do all these people know what they're doing?" 358 00:22:28,764 --> 00:22:31,559 Like it seems like hundreds in the studio. 359 00:22:31,809 --> 00:22:32,893 Obviously it doesn't sound that big now, 360 00:22:32,977 --> 00:22:34,937 but it still sounds pretty big, I tell you. 361 00:22:35,813 --> 00:22:38,566 ♪ There goes my baby 362 00:22:39,608 --> 00:22:43,028 ♪ And there goes my heart 363 00:22:43,904 --> 00:22:46,407 ♪ And they're gone forever 364 00:22:47,741 --> 00:22:50,870 ♪ So far apart 365 00:22:51,537 --> 00:22:53,539 ♪ But only the lonely... 366 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:54,832 It sounds fantastic, 367 00:22:54,915 --> 00:22:56,834 and then there's all these other people 368 00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:59,545 and strings and backing vocalists 369 00:23:00,838 --> 00:23:02,673 and guitar players, drummer. 370 00:23:05,301 --> 00:23:07,011 And they're all doing it once, in one go, 371 00:23:07,094 --> 00:23:11,599 and that to me is like... I never wanna have to do that. 372 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,934 I don't wanna have to set that up, that session. 373 00:23:13,976 --> 00:23:15,060 That's not my scene. 374 00:23:15,102 --> 00:23:18,355 Mine is the opposite to that, I like to do it one at a time, 375 00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:21,734 but still come out with the same result at the end 376 00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:25,613 We had a telephone call, like from management... 377 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:31,911 and that Jeff Lynne was trying to reach Roy Orbison. 378 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:37,416 And so we allowed the number to be given to Jeff. 379 00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:41,629 And so maybe three hours later the telephone rang 380 00:23:42,254 --> 00:23:43,672 and I said, "Hello." 381 00:23:45,007 --> 00:23:46,759 And nobody said anything. 382 00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:50,638 I said, "Hello?" and a click. 383 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:52,890 Then somebody called again. 384 00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,559 And I knew it was Jeff intuitively. 385 00:23:55,643 --> 00:23:59,813 And then somebody called again. And I said, "Hello?" 386 00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:02,691 And there was a moment of silence and then somebody said, 387 00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:06,654 "It's Jeff Lynne. Could I talk to Roy Orbison?" 388 00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:08,530 And I said, "Yes, he's waiting for you." 389 00:24:10,491 --> 00:24:12,493 ♪ California blue 390 00:24:16,372 --> 00:24:17,998 Thank you and come back next week. 391 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,667 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, 392 00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:22,419 and that was my latest song. 393 00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:25,839 Wonderful as it might be. 394 00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:26,840 Ah 395 00:24:27,883 --> 00:24:31,595 Roy Orbison was just astonishing 396 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:35,808 because he could just open his... not even open his mouth. 397 00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:38,894 You'd stand there by the mic an you'd say, "Has he started yet? 398 00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:41,355 And it'd just come out gradually. 399 00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:42,856 He was just pretending to sing it. 400 00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:44,775 OK. You don't want me to go... 401 00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:47,069 ♪ Still missing you 402 00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,863 ♪ California blue 403 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:56,954 No, it's... it's really what you hear, you know? 404 00:24:57,037 --> 00:25:00,165 And then... And then he'd go, "OK, let's do a take." 405 00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:02,668 He'd say, "OK, I think I've got it. Let's try it." 406 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:05,921 And you'd... you'd... you'd start and you go, blam! 407 00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:10,384 All the needles would bend and it'd be like so loud. 408 00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,678 It was like 100 times louder than when he was practising it, 409 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,390 you know, so it always used to take you by big surprise. 410 00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:26,400 ♪ California blue 411 00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:31,822 And it was Jeff, really, that got him back 412 00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:35,868 and made him comfortable with recording again 413 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:40,748 and really completely revitalised Roy's career. 414 00:25:40,831 --> 00:25:44,877 We went to the studio here in Los Angeles. He called. 415 00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:50,716 And it was Roy and Roy Junior and myself, 416 00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:54,762 and we went to listen to the songs. 417 00:25:54,845 --> 00:25:58,140 And the first one that Jeff played for Roy 418 00:25:58,932 --> 00:26:00,934 was A Love So Beautiful. 419 00:26:01,018 --> 00:26:03,604 ♪ Too young to understand 420 00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:06,398 ♪ To ever know 421 00:26:09,109 --> 00:26:11,737 ♪ That lovers drift apart 422 00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:16,033 ♪ And that's the way love goes 423 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:23,624 ♪ A love so beautiful 424 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:26,543 ♪ A love... 425 00:26:26,627 --> 00:26:32,508 And it was so amazing for Jeff to play the song for Roy. 426 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:35,010 And, you know, Roy, Kelton and I, 427 00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:39,098 we were just, you know, in the background, 428 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:43,560 and Roy listening to what Jeff had done to the song, 429 00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:48,107 and he just started crying, and we had never seen that. 430 00:26:48,357 --> 00:26:50,442 I mean, I had been married to Roy for 20 years, 431 00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:53,028 and, you know, I mean... 432 00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:56,406 Roy Junior had been in many studios with him 433 00:26:56,490 --> 00:26:58,492 and to see that emotion in Roy. 434 00:26:58,575 --> 00:27:01,787 And then Jeff looking and Jeff not knowing, I mean, 435 00:27:01,829 --> 00:27:05,082 what to do with Roy just sitting there 436 00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:08,001 and having tears roll down his face. 437 00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:09,920 Then the good part came. 438 00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:13,507 Thank God you got it as up tempo. 439 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:17,928 ♪ Anything you want, you got it 440 00:27:18,679 --> 00:27:22,057 ♪ Anything you need, you got it 441 00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:26,436 ♪ Anything at all, you got it 442 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,857 ♪ Baby 443 00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:37,531 And we got out of the tears. 444 00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:41,034 But it was just so incredible to see, you know. 445 00:27:41,118 --> 00:27:44,037 Roy always liked finding... 446 00:27:44,121 --> 00:27:46,748 He probably listened to something 447 00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:48,625 that just totally surprised him, 448 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:51,753 that he didn't think Jeff could add to the song, you know? 449 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:59,928 George wanted a producer for an album 450 00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:04,057 and he hadn't recorded an album for like eight, nine years. 451 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:05,434 He wanted someone to help him 452 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:09,897 and he had just really started listening to Jeff's music. 453 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,944 I think Telephone Line was on, although that's an obvious one, 454 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:17,446 but it is a very catchy song. 455 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,657 And that was on the jukebox for a long time before we met Jeff. 456 00:28:20,741 --> 00:28:22,951 So we kind of felt we knew him when we did meet him. 457 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:24,036 ♪ Hello 458 00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:27,915 ♪ How are you? 459 00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:31,376 ♪ Have you been all right 460 00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:37,007 ♪ Through all those lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely nights? 461 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:42,054 And I think everybody's... had an experience 462 00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:44,598 where, you know, they've had a bad telephone call 463 00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:46,558 with somebody they care about, and the... 464 00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:51,063 and the way it gets to you, and I think he captured that. 465 00:28:54,191 --> 00:28:55,192 ♪ Hey 466 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:58,862 ♪ How you feelin'? 467 00:29:00,447 --> 00:29:02,282 ♪ Are you still the same? 468 00:29:02,366 --> 00:29:08,956 ♪ Don't you realise the things we did, we did are for real? 469 00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:10,415 ♪ Not a dream 470 00:29:11,959 --> 00:29:13,961 ♪ I just can't believe 471 00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:20,342 ♪ They've all faded out of view 472 00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:21,301 ♪ Whoa 473 00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:26,640 Dave Edmunds told me that George was looking for me, 474 00:29:26,723 --> 00:29:28,934 George Harrison, and would like to work with me 475 00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:30,644 on his new album. 476 00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,438 You know, once he decided to do an album 477 00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:38,318 and he decided he'd do it with somebody whose music he liked, 478 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,988 and he got to know Jeff, that whole process happened. 479 00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:43,615 George wanted to make sure 480 00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:45,284 we were good pals before we started, so... 481 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:48,704 we went to Australia to watch the Grand Prix. 482 00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:50,956 Hanging out with George Harrison, you know, 483 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,959 and I'm going, "This is like the best thing." 484 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:56,003 And, of course, when you're with George, you can get in anywhere. 485 00:29:57,004 --> 00:29:59,214 And anything you want. "What would you like?" 486 00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:01,591 "Can we see the cars, like, and that?" 487 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:02,968 "Yeah, you can have a sit in 'em." 488 00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:05,721 You know, in the racing cars in the Formula 1. 489 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:08,098 You're going, "Shit, this is brilliant." 490 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,226 We'd go there in a helicopter, of course. You don't mess about. 491 00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:16,064 They worked all day and came out, took a break, 492 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,691 played a bit of cricket on the lawn, 493 00:30:17,774 --> 00:30:19,860 went back in, you know, had dinner, 494 00:30:19,943 --> 00:30:22,195 then maybe would go in and hang out and listen 495 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,114 and then sort of the fun began. 496 00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:25,741 But they were very, you know, serious 497 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,367 about when they were working 498 00:30:27,451 --> 00:30:30,412 but unhinged when they weren't, you know. 499 00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:33,623 ♪ I got my mind set on you 500 00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:36,877 ♪ Set on you 501 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,047 ♪ I got my mind set on you 502 00:30:41,298 --> 00:30:43,050 ♪ Set on you 503 00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:45,427 ♪ But it's gonna take money 504 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:49,931 ♪ A whole lot of spending money 505 00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:53,268 It sounds great to this day and it kind of defined 506 00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:56,480 that next sort of period of my dad and Jeff 507 00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:58,273 and the sound they were getting. 508 00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:01,860 You know, Jeff and George were similar characters 509 00:31:02,152 --> 00:31:05,989 in their humour and their northern upbringing. 510 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,785 Not too far apart in age. Maybe they were like... 511 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:12,037 George might have been like the older brother. 512 00:31:12,496 --> 00:31:17,250 We were great pals for like about 16, 17 years. 513 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:19,419 It was a marvellous time 514 00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,422 just to be working with him then in the studio. 515 00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:26,802 And, I mean, I actually literally kept pinching myself. 516 00:31:27,344 --> 00:31:32,224 They were very... Just you see two people that just click. 517 00:31:32,682 --> 00:31:33,767 They just... 518 00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:39,523 They came from a... a point of... reference 519 00:31:39,606 --> 00:31:44,528 that was just too close for them not to... not to hit it off. 520 00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:48,156 And they... they loved each other's music. 521 00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:50,826 It was Full Moon Fever time as well, wasn't it? 522 00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:54,663 That was when Jeff had just done Tom's record. 523 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:57,874 And I remember that record playing continuously. 524 00:31:58,166 --> 00:31:59,709 And I still... I love that record. 525 00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:01,169 That's one of my favourite records. 526 00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:05,465 Yeah, we should do some of them as well. 527 00:32:05,549 --> 00:32:06,800 - Really? - Yeah, maybe. 528 00:32:06,883 --> 00:32:08,927 - Just try like a moving one. 529 00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:11,054 - Bluesy, man. - Yeah. 530 00:32:11,138 --> 00:32:14,224 At the time, I was renting a house in Beverly Hills 531 00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:21,440 and I was driving down the road on an errand, 532 00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:25,193 and I pulled up at the light and looked over 533 00:32:25,318 --> 00:32:26,570 and there was Jeff. 534 00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:29,573 Somebody kept tooting the horn at me 535 00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:32,325 and I looked and it was Tom, Tom Petty. 536 00:32:32,409 --> 00:32:33,702 And I'd only met him once before 537 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:37,122 and that was at a concert with Bob Dylan. 538 00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:38,331 He was backing Bob Dylan. 539 00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:41,668 His group, the Heartbreakers, were backing Bob. 540 00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:44,004 And he stopped me. 541 00:32:44,087 --> 00:32:47,090 I pulled over, I got out and we had a chat. 542 00:32:47,174 --> 00:32:49,426 And he said... "Wow," he said. 543 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:51,470 "We're just playing George Harrison's new album 544 00:32:51,553 --> 00:32:53,263 and it sounds fantastic." 545 00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:58,310 "Do you fancy writing some songs together and see what happens?" 546 00:32:58,393 --> 00:32:59,519 I said, "Sure, I'd love to." 547 00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:03,106 We played guitars quite a bit, hanging around, 548 00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:05,442 and we wrote a couple of songs together, you know. 549 00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:07,903 I had one and he helped me finish it off. 550 00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:14,910 And the next song we wrote was Free Fallin', 551 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,912 and so we had the two songs. 552 00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:18,663 It was the Christmas holiday, 553 00:33:18,747 --> 00:33:20,290 so there weren't many people around, 554 00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:24,211 so we called Mike Campbell, 'cause he had a studio, 555 00:33:24,294 --> 00:33:28,381 and we went over there and just made those records. 556 00:33:28,465 --> 00:33:30,759 ♪ She's a good girl 557 00:33:31,635 --> 00:33:34,221 ♪ Loves her mama 558 00:33:34,304 --> 00:33:36,806 ♪ Loves Jesus 559 00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,558 ♪ And America too 560 00:33:38,642 --> 00:33:42,270 And he was kind of leaning over the piano, as I remember it, 561 00:33:42,312 --> 00:33:45,190 and he said, "Free fallin'," you know, 562 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:49,319 and I sang it, but I could only get half the word in. 563 00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:50,820 ♪ Free 564 00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:53,573 And then I put in... ♪ Free fallin' 565 00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:55,242 And he's like, "That's it!" 566 00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:00,497 ♪ Now I'm free 567 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:05,544 ♪ Free fallin' 568 00:34:09,089 --> 00:34:10,215 ♪ Oh! 569 00:34:10,298 --> 00:34:12,759 ♪ Free fallin' 570 00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:14,511 ♪ Free fallin' 571 00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:17,430 ♪ I'm free... 572 00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:20,725 And so we started work on a couple of songs. 573 00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:23,770 We did about two or three to start with and it was... 574 00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:26,523 We got on really good as well, no problem. 575 00:34:26,565 --> 00:34:28,775 We made 'em in Mike Campbell's garage. 576 00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:30,860 And that was all thanks to George as well, really. 577 00:34:33,697 --> 00:34:37,367 ♪ Back then, long time ago when grass was green 578 00:34:38,535 --> 00:34:42,330 ♪ Woke up in a daze... 579 00:34:42,372 --> 00:34:45,834 So when I was working with George on Cloud Nine, 580 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,504 we used to hang out every night after the sessions, 581 00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:51,381 listen back to what we'd done in the daytime, 582 00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:53,383 and George had this idea that.. 583 00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:57,429 He said to me, "You know what, me and you should have a group." 584 00:34:57,512 --> 00:35:02,392 And, I said, "Wow, that's a good idea. What a smashing thing." 585 00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:04,436 And I said, "Who would we have in it?" 586 00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,063 And he said, "Well, how about Bob Dylan?" 587 00:35:07,147 --> 00:35:08,732 I said, "Yeah, that's a good idea." 588 00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:11,735 And then I said, "How about Roy Orbison?" 589 00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:13,528 - He said, "That's a good idea." 590 00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:15,196 Oh, bollocks. 591 00:35:18,491 --> 00:35:21,745 Sorry, loves. I've gotta turn this off somehow. 592 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,669 So, anyway, this was like... 593 00:35:29,753 --> 00:35:33,340 This went on for a few... I suppose, a couple of weeks. 594 00:35:33,423 --> 00:35:34,382 And... 595 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,219 everybody agreed, 596 00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:40,722 and then... and I thought, "Wow, what about Tom?" 597 00:35:41,181 --> 00:35:44,184 The Traveling Wilburys came along 598 00:35:44,267 --> 00:35:47,520 and so we spent even more time together. 599 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:53,735 And I think in the Traveling Wilburys, he's often overlooked. 600 00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:58,406 His contribution was so huge, you know, it was... 601 00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:01,618 There couldn't have been a Traveling Wilburys without Jeff. 602 00:36:01,743 --> 00:36:03,370 My dad had just had dinner with Roy, 603 00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:05,538 so it all just kind of worked out. 604 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:08,291 Bob had the studio, Tom had my dad's guitars, 605 00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:11,544 Jeff was doing Tom's record, so they all just got together. 606 00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:22,889 ♪ Been beat up and battered around 607 00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:27,435 ♪ Been sent up and I've been shot down 608 00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:31,815 ♪ You're the best thing that I've ever found 609 00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:34,818 ♪ Handle me with care 610 00:36:36,403 --> 00:36:37,696 So that's how it happened, 611 00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:39,197 and we just got together one day 612 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,242 and started jamming round this table. 613 00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:43,827 And I remember Bob was a bit late 614 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,704 and we were all going, "Ooh, Bob's late." 615 00:36:46,496 --> 00:36:49,290 Anyway, the first one, George had half of it written already, 616 00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:50,834 and it was called Handle With Care, 617 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:52,043 and that was the first single. 618 00:36:53,503 --> 00:36:55,839 Really, the Wilburys came together as sort of... 619 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,425 again, just something that happened, 620 00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:00,677 you couldn't make it happen, they just came together. 621 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,765 But they had a lot of fun and they made some great music. 622 00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:09,519 And I think for George 623 00:37:09,602 --> 00:37:13,648 it was one of the most enjoyable times 624 00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:16,401 I'd ever seen him have, you know, like in 30 years. 625 00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:19,404 He just, he really enjoyed... And I guess they all did. 626 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,866 So I take it... ls this the front here? 627 00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:25,034 Or is this the front, that bit? 628 00:37:25,285 --> 00:37:26,870 Is it that bit there or is it...? 629 00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:29,581 - It's kind of a broad space. - Yeah. 630 00:37:31,708 --> 00:37:33,042 It's right here. 631 00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:35,587 Bill, can we just give you a level of what we're doing 632 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:36,880 and see if we get a good balance? 633 00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:40,717 There's a Roy Orbison number on the first album 634 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,596 called... Not Alone Any More. 635 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:49,976 ♪ It hurt like never before 636 00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:56,900 ♪ You're not alone any more 637 00:37:56,941 --> 00:38:01,905 And that was really Jeff and Roy's song. 638 00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:05,450 I mean, we all contributed a little bit, 639 00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:08,953 but in the end, you know, they had the handle on that one 640 00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:12,290 And so really the rest of us kind of backed off 641 00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:13,625 and let them go. 642 00:38:13,708 --> 00:38:17,921 And they... they wrote this song. We recorded it. 643 00:38:18,004 --> 00:38:21,925 No one was really happy with it you know? 644 00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:26,930 I think we all thought, "Better write another song, 645 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:29,933 'cause this one's not... not doing it." 646 00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:32,310 Well, that is not good enough for Jeff Lynne. 647 00:38:32,393 --> 00:38:37,941 He... He came in the next day, stripped the song. 648 00:38:38,942 --> 00:38:42,946 He had the lead vocal and the drums. 649 00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:46,449 And he completely re-wrote the song... 650 00:38:47,408 --> 00:38:51,037 around this lead vocal that was there... 651 00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:53,832 and wrote this incredible song, you know. 652 00:38:53,915 --> 00:38:57,460 And now it's one of my favourite ones on the album. 653 00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,380 And there's nobody that could do that. 654 00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:02,632 ♪ Well, it's all right 655 00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:04,968 ♪ As long as you've got somewhere to lay 656 00:39:05,218 --> 00:39:08,263 ♪ Well, it's all right 657 00:39:09,305 --> 00:39:11,307 ♪ Every day is just one day 658 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,563 The first album was doing fantastically well. 659 00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:19,774 It was in the top five and just an amazing reaction. 660 00:39:19,816 --> 00:39:21,651 People were really loving it. 661 00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:24,946 And right then Roy died. Very sad. 662 00:39:24,988 --> 00:39:26,406 The End of the Line, 663 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:29,909 we did like a tribute to Roy by doing the video 664 00:39:30,618 --> 00:39:33,371 with just a rocking chair with his guitar in it. 665 00:39:33,454 --> 00:39:37,333 That was our symbol for Roy, you know, and our tribute. 666 00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:39,961 And it's pretty poignant, really. 667 00:39:40,003 --> 00:39:42,839 And Roy's not with us any more, which is a tragedy. 668 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:49,888 Bands get together and there's a magic there. 669 00:39:49,971 --> 00:39:55,184 And it lasts as long as it lasts. 670 00:39:56,102 --> 00:39:59,063 But when it's a true band, 671 00:40:00,148 --> 00:40:03,860 and it's the band's time, 672 00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:09,991 there's a... a... a magic to it. 673 00:40:11,993 --> 00:40:15,079 And the Wilburys are truly 674 00:40:16,372 --> 00:40:19,042 one of those special chemistries, 675 00:40:19,292 --> 00:40:20,627 making really special music. 676 00:40:21,044 --> 00:40:22,545 ♪ Even if you're old and Grey 677 00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:25,590 ♪ Well, it's all right 678 00:40:26,466 --> 00:40:28,676 ♪ You still got something to say 679 00:40:31,846 --> 00:40:35,058 I think we both loved a lot of the same music. 680 00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:40,772 We... We discovered that we had both produced Del Shannon. 681 00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:43,733 ♪ Walk away Every time, right? 682 00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:46,527 ♪ Walk away If you think it's a good idea. 683 00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:47,695 Yeah, let's try that. 684 00:40:47,737 --> 00:40:49,447 You know what also might be good? 685 00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:51,741 - What? - Hand claps and a bongo. 686 00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:57,789 Hand claps and a bongo? Shit, I came to the right session. 687 00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,916 My specialty, man. 688 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:02,794 I think Jeff's... 689 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:05,797 If you wanna define his three biggest influences, 690 00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:09,676 I think they'd be Del Shannon, 691 00:41:09,926 --> 00:41:12,345 Roy Orbison and the Beatles. 692 00:41:13,388 --> 00:41:14,722 And maybe in that order. 693 00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:18,393 ♪ The one who understands 694 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:21,521 ♪ What I've gotta do 695 00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:24,565 ♪ I've gotta find a place to hide 696 00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:27,193 ♪ With my baby by my side 697 00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:29,654 Who would have thought one day that Del Shannon 698 00:41:29,737 --> 00:41:31,906 would actually come to my house in Shard End 699 00:41:31,948 --> 00:41:35,576 and we'd do a demo together on my tape recorder? 700 00:41:36,077 --> 00:41:40,498 It was fantastic, really. I was so thrilled to know Del. 701 00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:43,501 ♪ We've gotta keep searching, searching 702 00:41:43,543 --> 00:41:44,585 ♪ Find a place to hide 703 00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:46,421 ♪ Searching, searching 704 00:41:46,587 --> 00:41:51,342 I just thought he was like amazingly wacky and zany, 705 00:41:51,426 --> 00:41:52,552 you know what I mean? 706 00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:57,181 It turns out he was always a little bit pissed all the time. 707 00:41:58,141 --> 00:42:00,601 But I loved him so much. He was such a sweetheart. 708 00:42:06,858 --> 00:42:09,861 I started to take notice of the Beatles in '63. 709 00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:12,447 It was all a bit wishy-washy before that. 710 00:42:13,823 --> 00:42:15,616 The '60s really did change things 711 00:42:15,658 --> 00:42:17,827 and it was the Beatle revolution. 712 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:21,664 The Beatles did come along and they represented something 713 00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:24,083 that just set fire to all these fumes 714 00:42:24,167 --> 00:42:26,377 that were waiting to be set fire to. 715 00:42:28,004 --> 00:42:29,797 Well, he wasn't there by accident. 716 00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,717 It's a pretty good compliment 717 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,845 that the Beatles got back together 718 00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:38,347 and hired you to be the producer. 719 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:39,640 That's, you know... 720 00:42:39,682 --> 00:42:41,684 I'm sure they could have got anyone they wanted. 721 00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:45,730 I think it was George who said, "No, we need a producer." 722 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,691 It could be dangerous just to all go in the studio. 723 00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:50,318 It could get nasty. 724 00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:53,946 'Cause you've got egos, you know, flying around, 725 00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:55,323 surprisingly- 726 00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:59,827 So, yeah, Jeff's name came up and it was like, 727 00:42:59,869 --> 00:43:01,746 "Yeah, oh, that's good, yeah." 728 00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:04,040 You know, we really got to know Jeff. 729 00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:06,834 I mean, I got to know him hanging out with him and George, 730 00:43:07,293 --> 00:43:10,713 but then we really got to know him on Free as a Bird 731 00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:13,257 and he was a lifesaver on that. 732 00:43:13,341 --> 00:43:15,676 And, you know, he put that cassette together 733 00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:17,887 and that was all playing, and it was interesting, 734 00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:21,349 because the three of us felt comfortable with him. 735 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,768 He'd worked with George, 736 00:43:23,851 --> 00:43:27,105 and so George said, you know, "I think Jeff would be great." 737 00:43:27,188 --> 00:43:30,149 And so it was like, we decided yeah. 738 00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:32,735 We loved his work anyway, and it was a good idea 739 00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,113 for who to produce the Free as a Bird thing, 740 00:43:35,196 --> 00:43:38,783 'cause it was a kind of difficult record to make 741 00:43:38,866 --> 00:43:39,992 for a producer. 742 00:43:40,076 --> 00:43:41,744 It was really quite scary, 743 00:43:41,828 --> 00:43:43,204 because I didn't know Paul very well at all. 744 00:43:43,246 --> 00:43:45,498 I'd only met him a couple of times before that. 745 00:43:46,374 --> 00:43:50,878 And... he was a bit worried about me 746 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,130 'cause I was George's pal 747 00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:53,714 and he wondered if it was gonna be 748 00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:55,258 a little bit one-sided, you know, 749 00:43:55,341 --> 00:43:57,969 and not... not in the spirit of things. 750 00:43:58,052 --> 00:43:59,053 But he needn't have worried 751 00:43:59,095 --> 00:44:01,430 'cause I was totally into the spirit of things. 752 00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,976 ♪ Just like little girls and boys 753 00:44:07,186 --> 00:44:10,606 ♪ Playing with their little toys 754 00:44:12,567 --> 00:44:15,278 ♪ Seems like all we really were doing 755 00:44:17,071 --> 00:44:20,575 ♪ Was waiting for love 756 00:44:20,616 --> 00:44:22,201 I don't think those records, 757 00:44:22,451 --> 00:44:24,829 the Free as a Bird record and Real Love, 758 00:44:26,289 --> 00:44:28,457 I think you really needed him... 759 00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:31,544 they would have really needed him to pull that off, 760 00:44:31,794 --> 00:44:36,340 because it was such a major job, you know, 761 00:44:36,424 --> 00:44:39,969 to take that really shaky cassette recording 762 00:44:40,011 --> 00:44:41,179 they had of John. 763 00:44:41,262 --> 00:44:43,222 And it was a crackly old thing, you know. 764 00:44:43,306 --> 00:44:45,975 It was a cassette, and you don't use that. 765 00:44:46,017 --> 00:44:47,852 You normally make your demos on cassettes 766 00:44:47,935 --> 00:44:50,813 and then make a proper record 767 00:44:50,897 --> 00:44:53,482 and get rid of all the crackling and the hiss and everything. 768 00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:58,446 But Jeff was very good in that respect too, 769 00:44:58,487 --> 00:45:03,534 'cause he took the cassette tape and he put it in time. 770 00:45:17,006 --> 00:45:21,052 ♪ Free 771 00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:23,971 ♪ As a bird 772 00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:27,183 He didn't interfere with anything but the vocal phrases, 773 00:45:27,266 --> 00:45:30,019 'cause it's a demo, nobody cares about time, 774 00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:31,270 and if we were gonna work... 775 00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:33,522 And Jeff is very precise. 776 00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:35,441 That's one of the things I love about him. 777 00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:38,778 You know, his stuff just... it just rolls out 778 00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:40,488 and there's not a thing wrong. 779 00:45:40,529 --> 00:45:42,907 You know, you listen to it, so... 780 00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:45,201 and then you stop listening to it so precisely 781 00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:47,912 and it just rolls over you. 782 00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:49,372 It's like, "Ooh, I love this!" 783 00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:59,423 ♪ Free 784 00:46:01,509 --> 00:46:04,303 ♪ As a bird 785 00:46:05,263 --> 00:46:08,140 Jeff was very good because he's... 786 00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:10,810 he's very diplomatic 787 00:46:11,602 --> 00:46:13,896 and, you know, he lets you do your thing, 788 00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:15,481 and he's just sort of the controller. 789 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:17,108 He just makes sure it's all right. 790 00:46:17,817 --> 00:46:20,695 The first afternoon, really, was just banter, you know. 791 00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:21,779 It was all the three of them. 792 00:46:21,862 --> 00:46:23,948 They hadn't been in the same room for years. 793 00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:26,200 And so I'm just sitting there with them, 794 00:46:26,284 --> 00:46:28,452 like in the club with them, you know. 795 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,206 And it's just like, "Wow, I'm in the Beatles club." 796 00:46:32,248 --> 00:46:34,959 And it's like... and it's like a club meeting 797 00:46:35,042 --> 00:46:36,544 and having a reminisce. 798 00:46:36,627 --> 00:46:38,796 It was just superb. It was like... 799 00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:43,175 Hamburg stories, you know, all the Liverpool stories. 800 00:46:43,217 --> 00:46:45,177 It was just magnificent. 801 00:46:45,553 --> 00:46:48,097 And I was just willing just to sit there forever 802 00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:50,182 and not ever do a bit of work 803 00:46:50,224 --> 00:46:52,226 and just listen to these stories. 804 00:46:52,310 --> 00:46:54,937 They were the stories you sort of almost knew, 805 00:46:55,021 --> 00:46:57,648 but these are the real, you know, the real kind of... 806 00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:02,945 the real thing, the real, actual, as it really happened. 807 00:47:03,237 --> 00:47:05,239 So when we came in to do it, 808 00:47:07,533 --> 00:47:09,285 we had John in the ears, you know, 809 00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,912 and we just played along with it. 810 00:47:14,248 --> 00:47:17,168 I'm not sure how we started it. Jeff will remember better. 811 00:47:17,668 --> 00:47:19,879 I know I played bass. 812 00:47:20,212 --> 00:47:21,756 It was so hard to do. 813 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,675 I mean, because, laying that voice in there, 814 00:47:24,717 --> 00:47:26,177 which has got a piano glued to it, 815 00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:28,679 was really difficult, you know. 816 00:47:28,721 --> 00:47:31,932 It was almost... virtually impossible. 817 00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:33,726 But we got it done somehow. 818 00:47:35,019 --> 00:47:37,146 And Paul really helped on that because he sort of 819 00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:39,357 ghosted John's voice a little bit underneath. 820 00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:44,153 And it was... It came out really good in the end. 821 00:47:44,195 --> 00:47:46,697 For what it started out as, it was amazing, 822 00:47:46,989 --> 00:47:49,367 so I'm pretty chuffed with it. 823 00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:54,538 But I think, you know, Jeff was in a perfect position, really, 824 00:47:54,622 --> 00:47:58,376 to produce those... Free as a Bird and Real Love. 825 00:47:59,085 --> 00:48:02,713 You know, he was just... again, had the right sensibilities. 826 00:48:02,755 --> 00:48:06,175 He wasn't gonna take it somewhere completely different. 827 00:48:07,385 --> 00:48:09,011 And, you know, he had the respect 828 00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:11,931 for what they wanted to do, obviously. 829 00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:16,185 And he's told me about, you know, how hard it was. 830 00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:18,521 He did a lot of work there and I'm sure... 831 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,774 over to Paul McCartney to explain that. 832 00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:24,568 That was it, we had the cassette of John 833 00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:28,155 and we just gradually built it up. 834 00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:32,243 Did this, did that, put a bit of bass on, guitar. 835 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,079 George ended up putting the slide on, 836 00:48:35,162 --> 00:48:38,249 which was like the final icing on the cake. 837 00:48:38,958 --> 00:48:40,292 We sang. 838 00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:44,213 But I think for all of us, the most exciting thing was, 839 00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:47,341 even though John was no longer on this planet, 840 00:48:47,383 --> 00:48:50,136 here he was in the studio with us. 841 00:48:50,219 --> 00:48:51,470 And it was very special, you know, 842 00:48:51,554 --> 00:48:54,306 it was all of us like, "Wow!" 843 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:57,601 I mean, very... you know, big, big moment. 844 00:48:58,227 --> 00:49:01,522 I think my dad brought Jeff in and I think that was a big... 845 00:49:01,564 --> 00:49:03,524 Everyone was like, "Whoa, what's going on here?" 846 00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:04,900 And he was the only one 847 00:49:04,984 --> 00:49:06,527 that could have done that at the time, 848 00:49:06,569 --> 00:49:08,529 his meticulous nature, and they didn't have Pro Tools. 849 00:49:08,571 --> 00:49:13,033 There were, you know, aggregate time clocks 850 00:49:13,075 --> 00:49:15,286 for the John Lennon piano track, 851 00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:18,247 but then they had to phase out the vocals and fly back in. 852 00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:20,499 I mean, it was just right down Jeff's street, you know, 853 00:49:20,583 --> 00:49:23,210 and what they were left with was Real Love and Free as a Bird, 854 00:49:23,252 --> 00:49:26,255 which had, you know, they stand the test of time, 855 00:49:26,297 --> 00:49:29,550 they sound like the Beatles, but it's, you know... 856 00:49:29,592 --> 00:49:31,427 Jeff was perfect for that role. 857 00:49:32,678 --> 00:49:36,891 Neil Aspinall comes looking for me, which was great in itself. 858 00:49:37,141 --> 00:49:43,689 But he said... "Oh, can you come in the studio a sec, Jeff?" 859 00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:45,733 "Paul and George want you to check these harmonies 860 00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:48,319 they're just doing, they're working out." 861 00:49:48,402 --> 00:49:50,696 And I thought, "What? Me check 'em?" 862 00:49:51,489 --> 00:49:54,450 "OK, I'll fucking do it." Hoo-hoo! 863 00:49:54,492 --> 00:49:55,910 You know, it's quite astonishing, really. 864 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,537 It's something you'd never expect to happen. 865 00:49:58,621 --> 00:50:00,581 And there it was, and I was checking them, 866 00:50:00,664 --> 00:50:01,916 and they were brilliant. 867 00:50:02,166 --> 00:50:04,502 The harmonies sounded great, we recorded them straightaway 868 00:50:04,543 --> 00:50:10,716 and then the sessions went along really well after that. 869 00:50:10,799 --> 00:50:13,511 George wouldn't have let... they wouldn't have let anything out, 870 00:50:13,594 --> 00:50:14,803 same, any of them, 871 00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:18,182 if they weren't satisfied with what they did. 872 00:50:18,224 --> 00:50:21,894 So, you know, I think that's... It says a lot for Jeff. 873 00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:24,855 If we didn't like it, it didn't matter if John Lennon wrote it 874 00:50:24,939 --> 00:50:26,815 or Paul McCartney or George Harrison wrote it, 875 00:50:26,857 --> 00:50:28,692 it was like, "No." 876 00:50:28,776 --> 00:50:30,361 And we'd go, "All right, forget it." 877 00:50:30,402 --> 00:50:31,695 "I'll think of something else." 878 00:50:31,737 --> 00:50:34,532 It kept you on your mettle, you know, you'd get chucked out, 879 00:50:34,573 --> 00:50:36,617 you know, so that's good. 880 00:50:37,743 --> 00:50:40,704 But they were three that we liked. 881 00:50:40,788 --> 00:50:45,376 Free as a Bird, Real Love, so those were the two that we did. 882 00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:48,504 And there was another one that we started working on, 883 00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:50,005 but George went off it. 884 00:50:52,341 --> 00:50:54,552 "Fucking 'ell. Fucking rubbish, this is." 885 00:50:54,593 --> 00:50:56,720 It was like, "No, George, this is John." 886 00:50:56,762 --> 00:50:58,472 "It's still fucking rubbish, you know." 887 00:50:58,556 --> 00:50:59,598 "Oh, OK, then." 888 00:51:01,225 --> 00:51:03,727 So that one... that one's still lingering around, 889 00:51:03,769 --> 00:51:07,231 so I'm going to nick in with Jeff and do it, finish it, 890 00:51:07,273 --> 00:51:08,440 one of these days. 891 00:51:08,524 --> 00:51:10,859 We've always had a constant fight, Jeff and I, 892 00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:15,948 because, you know, he always wants the click track. 893 00:51:17,157 --> 00:51:18,659 He wants the click and I keep saying, 894 00:51:18,742 --> 00:51:20,411 "I am the fucking click!" 895 00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:23,664 Of course, when we got the song finished, I'll never forget, 896 00:51:23,831 --> 00:51:25,416 Paul came and gave me a big hug and he said, 897 00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:27,167 "Well done. You've done it." 898 00:51:28,002 --> 00:51:31,547 So I was chuffed about that and that's how it went. 899 00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:36,719 You know, I mean, he had along run of huge hit singles. 900 00:51:39,722 --> 00:51:44,768 And sometimes when you have a lot of hit singles 901 00:51:45,603 --> 00:51:48,272 and you're on... or at least in those days, 902 00:51:48,355 --> 00:51:50,441 it's probably still true today, 903 00:51:50,482 --> 00:51:52,192 you know, when you're on the AM radio 904 00:51:52,276 --> 00:51:54,403 and you're having a lot of hit singles, 905 00:51:54,445 --> 00:51:56,614 critics take that for granted, you know, 906 00:51:56,697 --> 00:52:03,454 and they tend to maybe not be as kind to you as they should be, 907 00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:07,082 you know, because that's really an art, to make a hit single. 908 00:52:08,167 --> 00:52:10,711 ♪ Midnight 909 00:52:13,464 --> 00:52:16,383 ♪ On the water 910 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,264 I saw 911 00:52:25,184 --> 00:52:28,020 ♪ The ocean's daughter 912 00:52:32,191 --> 00:52:35,527 ♪ Walking on a wave she came 913 00:52:38,197 --> 00:52:43,160 ♪ Staring as she called my name 914 00:52:43,452 --> 00:52:47,539 ♪ And I can't get it out of my head... 915 00:52:47,956 --> 00:52:50,459 To me, pop is the best genre of all 916 00:52:50,542 --> 00:52:51,919 because it's got everything. 917 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,754 It's got everything you need, you know. 918 00:52:53,796 --> 00:52:56,715 Elvis, the Beatles... I mean, everything is in there. 919 00:52:56,965 --> 00:52:58,884 All these different millions of styles, 920 00:52:59,468 --> 00:53:02,971 and it's just... beautiful pop music. 921 00:53:04,848 --> 00:53:09,353 We're gonna play Electric Light Orchestra from last year, 922 00:53:09,436 --> 00:53:11,772 Showdown, which I thought was a great record 923 00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:13,857 and I was expecting it to be number one. 924 00:53:13,941 --> 00:53:15,275 And it's a nice group. 925 00:53:15,317 --> 00:53:16,610 I call them Son of Beatles, 926 00:53:16,694 --> 00:53:19,113 although they're doing things that we never did obviously. 927 00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:31,750 ♪ She cried to the southern win 928 00:53:32,793 --> 00:53:35,963 ♪ 'Bout a love that was sure to end 929 00:53:37,005 --> 00:53:40,467 ♪ Every dream in her heart was gone 930 00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:43,887 ♪ Heading for a showdown 931 00:53:46,557 --> 00:53:48,851 ♪ Bad dreamer, what's your name 932 00:53:49,977 --> 00:53:53,272 ♪ Looks like we're riding on the same train 933 00:53:54,314 --> 00:53:57,359 ♪ Looks as though there'll be more pain 934 00:53:57,985 --> 00:54:01,405 ♪ There's gonna be a showdown, yeah 935 00:54:02,948 --> 00:54:05,743 ♪ And it's raining 936 00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:09,830 ♪ All over the world 937 00:54:12,332 --> 00:54:13,917 ♪ Raining 938 00:54:14,835 --> 00:54:18,338 ♪ All over the world 939 00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:22,384 ♪ Tonight the longest night 940 00:54:42,529 --> 00:54:43,697 He's had phases 941 00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:45,616 where his music sounded really clean, 942 00:54:45,699 --> 00:54:47,826 where it sounded really programmed, 943 00:54:47,868 --> 00:54:50,621 or when it sounded really loose and free and orchestral, 944 00:54:50,704 --> 00:54:52,706 or, you know, some... 945 00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:55,000 You know, or you've got chanting or you've got orchestras 946 00:54:55,250 --> 00:54:57,628 and sometimes it's just, you know... 947 00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:01,799 There's no real way of seeing how he's got there. 948 00:55:01,882 --> 00:55:05,719 He's just... he's got an idea in his head, 949 00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:08,639 and whatever it takes him to get that onto tape. 950 00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:10,891 I was coming back from the, you know, 951 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:12,726 to start making records again. 952 00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:16,188 I finally pulled myself together and started to bring myself up 953 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:19,191 and I asked Jeff to produce a couple of tracks, 954 00:55:19,274 --> 00:55:21,109 which he did great, and that was the start. 955 00:55:21,193 --> 00:55:25,155 And he was part of that, he was part of me, you know, 956 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,490 getting back on track. 957 00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:29,576 There aren't any other producers really like him. 958 00:55:30,994 --> 00:55:34,832 I think he could do whatever he sets his mind to, and... 959 00:55:37,543 --> 00:55:40,128 I've always found him very easy to work with 960 00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:45,092 and I always enjoy whatever, you know, I hear that he's done. 961 00:55:46,301 --> 00:55:47,761 Some people like to use 962 00:55:47,803 --> 00:55:50,973 a specific microphone all the time for a specific instrument. 963 00:55:51,014 --> 00:55:53,684 I'm not in that school of thought. 964 00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:58,313 I found that Jeff likes to experiment too. 965 00:55:59,106 --> 00:56:01,942 You use a room as the echo that you want, 966 00:56:02,025 --> 00:56:06,071 which is always better than some gadget, you know. 967 00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:08,407 The natural sound of air moving 968 00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,159 has got a magic to it that you can't recreate in a box, 969 00:56:11,243 --> 00:56:12,244 I don't think. 970 00:56:15,414 --> 00:56:18,041 You know, every room in his house 971 00:56:18,876 --> 00:56:21,295 is part of his studio. 972 00:56:22,421 --> 00:56:23,881 They're all set up. 973 00:56:23,922 --> 00:56:30,220 The furniture is in a certain place for a sound. 974 00:56:30,971 --> 00:56:33,891 And the living room is not really a living room. 975 00:56:33,932 --> 00:56:37,060 It's a recording room, you know. 976 00:56:37,853 --> 00:56:43,817 And depending on what idea he's trying to accomplish 977 00:56:44,860 --> 00:56:48,697 depends what room you go play in. 978 00:57:04,504 --> 00:57:07,007 Paul actually said to me when I was working with him, 979 00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:09,635 he said, "Oh, you're very thorough, aren't you?" 980 00:57:09,676 --> 00:57:11,261 And I think that's a good thing 981 00:57:11,845 --> 00:57:13,639 You know, I look after all the little details 982 00:57:13,722 --> 00:57:18,185 and make sure there's not any little bit of stuff 983 00:57:18,268 --> 00:57:20,228 that shouldn't be there lurking around. 984 00:57:20,854 --> 00:57:23,565 I'm just trying to get the best sound I can on all stuff. 985 00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:27,194 And, you know, I think... 986 00:57:29,237 --> 00:57:32,074 I do try and get different sounds, you know, 987 00:57:32,157 --> 00:57:33,909 different drum sounds and different... 988 00:57:33,951 --> 00:57:35,577 I try and make them old-fashioned, you know, 989 00:57:35,661 --> 00:57:37,829 which is a lot of fun, 990 00:57:37,913 --> 00:57:41,500 trying to recreate old rooms in new rooms. 991 00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:50,926 I pay attention to things that a lot of people don't. 992 00:57:53,053 --> 00:57:54,388 That's probably one of the things. 993 00:57:54,513 --> 00:57:57,099 Yeah, Jeff likes to work. 994 00:57:57,140 --> 00:57:59,142 You know, he likes to work. 995 00:57:59,977 --> 00:58:05,816 And we're... we're pretty much rocking here all the time. 996 00:58:06,441 --> 00:58:08,443 When I started, there were no rules and regulations. 997 00:58:08,694 --> 00:58:10,404 Nobody cared how loud you had it. 998 00:58:11,571 --> 00:58:14,157 There wasn't little monitors and people snooping round, going, 999 00:58:14,241 --> 00:58:15,617 "Hey, what do you think you're doing?" 1000 00:58:15,701 --> 00:58:17,953 and people with coats on, white coats and that, you know, 1001 00:58:18,036 --> 00:58:18,829 there weren't any of that. 1002 00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:22,124 We come from the same school, you know. 1003 00:58:22,165 --> 00:58:23,792 We're old analogue guys 1004 00:58:23,875 --> 00:58:26,253 trying to figure out the digital world. 1005 00:58:27,796 --> 00:58:29,172 He's not interested in fame, 1006 00:58:29,256 --> 00:58:31,299 he's not interested in money as such. 1007 00:58:31,383 --> 00:58:34,344 You know, he doesn't, he's not, you know... he's... 1008 00:58:35,762 --> 00:58:37,889 He's one of the most balanced people. 1009 00:58:37,973 --> 00:58:40,726 You'd never think of him as a rock 'n' roller. 1010 00:58:44,062 --> 00:58:45,772 I had a hit on Broadway 1011 00:58:45,856 --> 00:58:47,190 and then he had a hit on Broadway, 1012 00:58:47,232 --> 00:58:48,817 but he never went to his. 1013 00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:52,404 And I thought, "That's really kind of cool, you know." 1014 00:58:53,572 --> 00:58:54,656 Can we try that once more? 1015 00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:59,411 He blew me away. He's doing three albums right now. 1016 00:58:59,453 --> 00:59:02,247 Or he may have finished one of them, I don't know. 1017 00:59:02,289 --> 00:59:03,915 And he was doing show tunes. 1018 00:59:03,957 --> 00:59:06,251 And they were so beautiful. 1019 00:59:06,376 --> 00:59:08,003 So beautiful. 1020 00:59:08,295 --> 00:59:13,258 Jeff has listened to the, you know, these songs that he likes 1021 00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:15,052 and re-created them and heard them 1022 00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:17,429 and put the sort of ELO sound on them. 1023 00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:22,726 Just squeeze a bit more... a bit more A200 into that lead guitar. 1024 00:59:22,768 --> 00:59:23,769 OK. 1025 00:59:24,895 --> 00:59:28,774 They've all got their own little worlds that they live in 1026 00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:31,068 When you learn 'em, it gradually becomes apparent 1027 00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:33,361 what the important bit's like. 1028 00:59:33,445 --> 00:59:38,408 ♪ She may be the beauty or the beast 1029 00:59:38,492 --> 00:59:42,079 ♪ May be the famine or the feast 1030 00:59:43,038 --> 00:59:45,123 A tiny bit of licence with it. 1031 00:59:45,165 --> 00:59:46,792 You can still find little space 1032 00:59:46,833 --> 00:59:49,002 to put your own little naughty bits in. 1033 00:59:49,086 --> 00:59:53,924 ♪ She may be the mirror of my dream 1034 00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:56,301 The first song is called She. 1035 00:59:56,343 --> 00:59:59,012 It was recorded by Charles Aznavour 1036 00:59:59,096 --> 01:00:01,389 and I loved the... I loved the tune so much. 1037 01:00:01,473 --> 01:00:04,142 I've always loved it ever since I first heard it in the '60s. 1038 01:00:04,184 --> 01:00:05,477 I've done like a thicker version of it, 1039 01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:07,270 more of a harmony version, 1040 01:00:07,312 --> 01:00:10,232 like a lot of backing vocals and stuff like that. 1041 01:00:10,315 --> 01:00:10,982 How was that? 1042 01:00:12,526 --> 01:00:14,111 - Nice. - OK, good. 1043 01:00:14,736 --> 01:00:16,780 Double that. Double it. 1044 01:00:22,035 --> 01:00:27,124 ♪ She may be the beauty or the beast 1045 01:00:27,165 --> 01:00:31,002 ♪ May be the famine or the feast 1046 01:00:31,044 --> 01:00:32,003 ♪ May turn... 1047 01:00:37,134 --> 01:00:38,927 - Nice. - That's it. That's done. 1048 01:00:39,010 --> 01:00:40,345 That's three-part harmony. 1049 01:00:40,387 --> 01:00:42,889 That's a three-part harmony right there. 1050 01:00:43,098 --> 01:00:45,851 And he's got a great voice. 1051 01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:49,229 He's got a really beautiful voice, you know. 1052 01:00:49,312 --> 01:00:53,233 Being a singer, you know, it's not easy to do what he does. 1053 01:00:53,316 --> 01:00:55,402 Got a really classic voice, you know. 1054 01:00:57,028 --> 01:01:01,366 And it's individual voice too, it's distinctive. 1055 01:01:01,408 --> 01:01:04,244 You don't... It's nobody else, you know, it's Jeff Lynne. 1056 01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:07,247 ♪ I'm wild again 1057 01:01:08,206 --> 01:01:10,959 ♪ Beguiled again 1058 01:01:11,459 --> 01:01:14,379 What motivated me to go in the direction of these tunes 1059 01:01:14,462 --> 01:01:18,258 was just really the fact that I'd been listening to them 1060 01:01:18,341 --> 01:01:20,719 and only thinking about it, never planning on it, you know, 1061 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,097 but it took me about probably three years 1062 01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:26,766 of just thinking about it to even start doing it. 1063 01:01:26,850 --> 01:01:29,936 I thought, "I've gotta try 'em because now I understand 'em." 1064 01:01:30,187 --> 01:01:32,898 He obviously loves 1065 01:01:34,858 --> 01:01:36,318 all of those songs... 1066 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:43,200 and has studied the craft of songwriting 1067 01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:45,452 and understands it. 1068 01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,120 And he... 1069 01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:52,459 listened to them all very carefully. 1070 01:01:53,793 --> 01:01:59,132 And rather than getting some really good session man 1071 01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:05,388 to come in and play and sing over that, 1072 01:02:07,891 --> 01:02:12,312 he spent a lot of time doing stuff himself. 1073 01:02:14,481 --> 01:02:17,067 A lot of people wish they could do that, but they can't. 1074 01:02:17,150 --> 01:02:20,820 That makes it different. That makes it different. 1075 01:02:20,904 --> 01:02:23,990 - In front of you, Jeff. - That feels good, don't it? 1076 01:02:24,366 --> 01:02:25,325 Yeah, that's great. 1077 01:02:38,129 --> 01:02:40,382 I think he really captured the essence 1078 01:02:40,465 --> 01:02:43,885 of... of all those great old songs. 1079 01:02:45,345 --> 01:02:49,766 And I'm not sure quite how he did it. 1080 01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:53,645 ♪ Smile 1081 01:02:53,687 --> 01:02:57,274 ♪ Though your heart is aching 1082 01:02:57,357 --> 01:02:59,317 ♪ Smile 1083 01:02:59,401 --> 01:03:02,570 ♪ Even though it's breaking... 1084 01:03:02,654 --> 01:03:04,155 I've always loved this song 1085 01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:06,324 and I've always been kind of amazed 1086 01:03:06,408 --> 01:03:08,159 that Charlie Chaplin wrote it. 1087 01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:09,619 What a talented guy. 1088 01:03:10,036 --> 01:03:11,997 He'd written some really beautiful tunes, 1089 01:03:12,372 --> 01:03:13,456 big-time numbers. 1090 01:03:13,999 --> 01:03:18,461 And this was one that was very accessible to me, 1091 01:03:18,670 --> 01:03:22,465 nice and simple and very uplifting 1092 01:03:22,507 --> 01:03:27,554 and... I enjoy listening to it still, so that's good. 1093 01:03:27,721 --> 01:03:31,975 ♪ You'll see the sun come shining... 1094 01:03:32,017 --> 01:03:34,644 And he had a baby when he was 83. 1095 01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:41,192 ♪ Just running scared... 1096 01:03:43,194 --> 01:03:45,864 Roy actually told me that this was his favourite one 1097 01:03:45,947 --> 01:03:46,990 that he ever did. 1098 01:03:47,032 --> 01:03:49,951 It's a wonderful masterpiece of a tune 1099 01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:54,998 because it's so simple that it almost defies belief. 1100 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,917 ♪ Would you choose? 1101 01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:01,338 ♪ Then all at once... 1102 01:04:01,629 --> 01:04:03,840 It's just marvellous. It's like a miniature opera. 1103 01:04:03,882 --> 01:04:07,719 To me, it's like a masterpiece anyway, and simplicity itself. 1104 01:04:08,219 --> 01:04:10,722 Anyway, Roy was a genius, you know, 1105 01:04:10,764 --> 01:04:13,683 and a fantastic voice and everything. 1106 01:04:14,184 --> 01:04:15,352 I can't really do it justice, 1107 01:04:15,435 --> 01:04:17,687 but I do it as good as I can do it. 1108 01:04:18,104 --> 01:04:20,190 But I can still get up there and hit that note, 1109 01:04:20,273 --> 01:04:21,691 but only if I use a pair of stepladders. 1110 01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:30,158 ♪ You turned around and walked away with me 1111 01:04:35,663 --> 01:04:37,332 I think, you know, there's been a little period 1112 01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:41,336 where he did kind of give up, for the last few years. 1113 01:04:41,419 --> 01:04:44,130 I'd sort of ring him and say, "You doing something?" 1114 01:04:44,214 --> 01:04:45,632 "No, I'm not doing much." 1115 01:04:45,715 --> 01:04:49,886 But he's back with a vengeance, from what I can hear. 1116 01:04:50,303 --> 01:04:54,182 Let's try one now. Let's do that again now with... with... 1117 01:04:54,265 --> 01:04:56,267 I'll put the harmony on it. 1118 01:04:56,518 --> 01:04:59,479 Phil. We'll have Phil singing along with Don. 1119 01:04:59,562 --> 01:05:01,064 This is how we do it round here. 1120 01:05:01,398 --> 01:05:02,399 OK. 1121 01:05:11,408 --> 01:05:13,701 ♪ We used to have... 1122 01:05:13,785 --> 01:05:16,496 Eventually you come out with the finished thing 1123 01:05:16,538 --> 01:05:18,039 that's got all the bits you ever heard 1124 01:05:18,123 --> 01:05:20,708 plus your new bits that you've added to it. 1125 01:05:20,792 --> 01:05:25,839 And it's just like a real nice feeling of accomplishment 1126 01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:28,341 to have actually got it done, you know, 1127 01:05:28,383 --> 01:05:30,677 and there's the beginning, there's the middle bit 1128 01:05:30,718 --> 01:05:32,178 and there's the end. 1129 01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:35,181 And it's just... it's all the proper music, 1130 01:05:35,223 --> 01:05:36,307 just like they did. 1131 01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:38,601 ♪ Love die 1132 01:05:39,602 --> 01:05:45,024 ♪ So sad to watch good love go bad 1133 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:46,818 Did it Work? 1134 01:05:47,068 --> 01:05:48,194 - Yeah. - OK, good. 1135 01:05:51,698 --> 01:05:53,366 We did this song, Mercy, Mercy, 1136 01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:55,201 and I used to love playing this live 1137 01:05:55,243 --> 01:05:56,828 all round the pubs of Birmingham. 1138 01:05:57,036 --> 01:05:58,496 It's one of my favourite ones to do live 1139 01:05:58,538 --> 01:05:59,539 'cause it had everything. 1140 01:05:59,622 --> 01:06:04,836 It was nice harmony, easy to sing and nice guitar bits. 1141 01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:07,505 Just a great thing for a live group to play. 1142 01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:11,676 Songwriter, singer, drummer, guitarist. 1143 01:06:12,093 --> 01:06:13,553 You know, you can do it all. 1144 01:06:15,221 --> 01:06:17,765 He's not bad at all. 1145 01:06:18,433 --> 01:06:20,059 All right, Jeff. How you doing? 1146 01:06:20,143 --> 01:06:21,144 All right. 1147 01:06:21,227 --> 01:06:22,395 All right, Jeff. How you going? 1148 01:06:22,479 --> 01:06:23,646 How you going? All right? 1149 01:06:34,073 --> 01:06:36,034 ♪ Have mercy 1150 01:06:37,619 --> 01:06:40,580 ♪ Have mercy, baby 1151 01:06:42,373 --> 01:06:44,042 ♪ Have mercy 1152 01:06:45,251 --> 01:06:47,045 ♪ Have mercy on me 1153 01:06:50,465 --> 01:06:53,635 ♪ Well, I went to see the Gypsy 1154 01:06:54,552 --> 01:06:57,430 ♪ To have my fortune read 1155 01:06:58,389 --> 01:07:02,519 ♪ She said, man, your baby's gonna leave you 1156 01:07:03,061 --> 01:07:05,438 ♪ Her bags are packed up under the bed 1157 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,566 ♪ I cried, have mercy 1158 01:07:10,318 --> 01:07:13,238 ♪ Have mercy, baby 1159 01:07:14,948 --> 01:07:16,407 ♪ Have mercy 1160 01:07:17,825 --> 01:07:20,328 ♪ Have mercy on me 1161 01:07:22,956 --> 01:07:26,125 ♪ I said, if you leave me, baby 1162 01:07:27,585 --> 01:07:30,129 ♪ Girl, if you put me down 1163 01:07:31,631 --> 01:07:35,343 ♪ I'm going to the nearest river, child 1164 01:07:35,385 --> 01:07:38,221 ♪ And jump overboard and drown 1165 01:07:38,304 --> 01:07:41,349 ♪ Don't leave me, have mercy 1166 01:07:43,017 --> 01:07:45,937 ♪ Have mercy, baby 1167 01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:49,816 ♪ Have mercy 1168 01:07:50,733 --> 01:07:52,777 ♪ Have mercy on me 1169 01:07:55,488 --> 01:07:57,949 ♪ Well, now, hey, baby 1170 01:07:58,199 --> 01:07:59,826 ♪ Hey, hey, now 1171 01:07:59,909 --> 01:08:02,662 ♪ What you trying to do? 1172 01:08:04,372 --> 01:08:06,207 ♪ Hey, hey, baby 1173 01:08:06,291 --> 01:08:07,875 ♪ Hey, hey, now 1174 01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:11,462 ♪ Please don't say we're through 1175 01:08:20,263 --> 01:08:23,474 ♪ I said if you stay, baby 1176 01:08:24,767 --> 01:08:26,811 ♪ I tell you what I'm gonna do 1177 01:08:28,187 --> 01:08:32,358 ♪ I'm gonna work two jobs seven days a week 1178 01:08:32,692 --> 01:08:35,194 ♪ And bring my money home to you 1179 01:08:35,278 --> 01:08:38,239 ♪ Well, I said, have mercy 1180 01:08:40,158 --> 01:08:43,036 ♪ Have mercy, baby 1181 01:08:44,746 --> 01:08:46,789 ♪ Have mercy 1182 01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:50,084 ♪ Have mercy on me 1183 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,839 ♪ Have mercy 1184 01:08:55,882 --> 01:08:57,800 ♪ Have mercy on me 1185 01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:02,889 ♪ Have mercy 1186 01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:03,973 ♪ Mercy, baby 1187 01:09:04,015 --> 01:09:05,933 ♪ Have mercy on me 1188 01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:10,647 ♪ Have mercy 1189 01:09:12,357 --> 01:09:14,317 ♪ Have mercy on me 1190 01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:16,903 Working together was... was great. 1191 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:22,367 'Cause you want someone who can control the situation 1192 01:09:22,450 --> 01:09:23,660 without appearing to, 1193 01:09:24,744 --> 01:09:27,455 and that comes from his character. 1194 01:09:27,538 --> 01:09:31,751 He just is that kind of guy, you know, that he gets things done, 1195 01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,212 but you wouldn't know he was pulling the strings. 1196 01:09:50,687 --> 01:09:54,565 Very modest, innocent in some ways. 1197 01:09:54,774 --> 01:09:57,568 At the same time amazingly accomplished. 1198 01:09:59,654 --> 01:10:03,032 His music certainly hasn't been overlooked 1199 01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:04,283 because you hear it. 1200 01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,869 It's part of the fabric of all our lives. 1201 01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:12,375 But the man himself is very shy and retreating, you know. 1202 01:10:12,417 --> 01:10:14,919 I don't think you ever saw his picture 1203 01:10:15,002 --> 01:10:18,423 on an album jacket or anything back in the ELO days. 1204 01:10:19,006 --> 01:10:21,092 It's been a real treat working with Jeff. 1205 01:10:21,175 --> 01:10:24,595 I mean, as he mentioned, 1206 01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:27,432 when he was... when he was coming up 1207 01:10:27,473 --> 01:10:30,309 and he met the Beatles, how he had to pinch himself, 1208 01:10:30,393 --> 01:10:31,894 and when he was working with the Beatles 1209 01:10:32,353 --> 01:10:34,814 helped realise that, you know, where he is, 1210 01:10:34,856 --> 01:10:38,109 working with such great talent, that's basically how I feel. 1211 01:10:38,985 --> 01:10:41,529 I think I have like track marks on my arm 1212 01:10:41,612 --> 01:10:43,698 from pinching myself so many times. 1213 01:10:44,198 --> 01:10:47,452 Here's a little song what I wrote about 20 years ago 1214 01:10:47,702 --> 01:10:50,663 about the climate changing. 1215 01:10:51,831 --> 01:10:54,208 Oh, not one of them again. Here we go. 1216 01:11:01,174 --> 01:11:06,012 ♪ One day the earth woke up and said, boy, I feel half dead 1217 01:11:07,847 --> 01:11:10,892 ♪ Somebody's churning up the poison 1218 01:11:10,975 --> 01:11:14,103 ♪ And it's getting in my head 1219 01:11:16,647 --> 01:11:20,777 He's a great, great friend. 1220 01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:30,203 Jeff will do anything for you if he's your friend. 1221 01:11:32,038 --> 01:11:35,541 He's a wonderfully gifted artist. 1222 01:11:50,723 --> 01:11:52,433 He plays... 1223 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,688 I don't even know how many instruments he plays, 1224 01:11:57,730 --> 01:11:59,482 but he plays a lot of 'em. 1225 01:11:59,732 --> 01:12:02,193 He's a true master of what he does, you know, 1226 01:12:02,276 --> 01:12:03,611 and I don't know... 1227 01:12:04,821 --> 01:12:06,739 You know, it's hard to say it 1228 01:12:06,823 --> 01:12:08,991 in a way that doesn't sound like it's forced. 1229 01:12:09,075 --> 01:12:13,246 I mean, whatever Jeff does is beautiful. 1230 01:12:13,788 --> 01:12:16,541 Well, as a man he's been a real pal. 1231 01:12:16,749 --> 01:12:21,003 I think he's, you know, he's a very loyal person. 1232 01:12:21,254 --> 01:12:24,465 And as a producer he's meticulous. 1233 01:12:24,507 --> 01:12:29,971 And as a songwriter he's melodic as can be. 1234 01:12:30,221 --> 01:12:33,474 ♪ And remember all those trees I had 1235 01:12:33,516 --> 01:12:36,018 ♪ Well, now there ain't a lot 1236 01:12:38,354 --> 01:12:40,982 ♪ My eyes kept slowly trickling 1237 01:12:41,065 --> 01:12:43,860 ♪ Down to where the party's at 1238 01:12:45,903 --> 01:12:49,156 ♪ And if everybody is a-going there 1239 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,870 ♪ Well, that's... the end of that 1240 01:12:56,956 --> 01:13:01,252 ♪ Save me now, save me now 1241 01:13:01,836 --> 01:13:05,006 ♪ Come on and save me now 1242 01:13:05,047 --> 01:13:07,758 ♪ Save me now 1243 01:13:08,634 --> 01:13:11,095 ♪ Save me now 1244 01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:31,449 If I hadn't been doing the music, 1245 01:13:31,532 --> 01:13:33,659 I'd have been really probably not very happy, 1246 01:13:33,701 --> 01:13:37,622 'cause just all it was was these black mornings, 1247 01:13:37,705 --> 01:13:42,168 you know, Grey skies, raining, freezing cold, 1248 01:13:42,209 --> 01:13:45,463 getting up on the upstairs of the bus, 1249 01:13:45,546 --> 01:13:48,215 going into town, going to work. 1250 01:13:48,466 --> 01:13:49,967 That wasn't really what... 1251 01:13:50,051 --> 01:13:55,056 That didn't have any kind of fascination for me at all. 1252 01:14:12,406 --> 01:14:16,160 So I'm so glad I got into the.. into the rock 'n' roll music, 1253 01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:18,955 into the pop and rock. 1254 01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:27,171 I had three albums in the top ten as a producer in America, 1255 01:14:27,254 --> 01:14:30,841 which is quite an amazing thing to have three in the top ten. 1256 01:14:30,925 --> 01:14:34,011 And I was nominated for Producer of the Year. 1257 01:14:34,053 --> 01:14:35,638 But I didn't get it. That's OK. 1258 01:14:35,721 --> 01:14:38,391 I still did the albums and that was more fun than getting that. 1259 01:14:42,895 --> 01:14:46,232 ♪ And you really got a hold on me 1260 01:14:47,483 --> 01:14:48,484 ♪ Fab 1261 01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:53,531 ♪ Long time ago when we was fab... 1262 01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:59,161 ♪ Been beat up and battered around 1263 01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,332 ♪ Been sent up and I've been shot down 1264 01:15:04,291 --> 01:15:07,920 ♪ You're the best thing that I've ever found 1265 01:15:08,629 --> 01:15:11,007 ♪ Handle me with care 1266 01:15:21,726 --> 01:15:24,186 ♪ Free 1267 01:15:26,689 --> 01:15:29,358 ♪ As a bird 1268 01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:37,783 ♪ It's the next best thing to be 1269 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,247 ♪ Free as a bird... 1270 01:15:47,626 --> 01:15:53,924 ♪ Every time I look into your loving eyes 1271 01:15:56,093 --> 01:16:02,183 ♪ I see a love that money just can't buy 1272 01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,146 ♪ One look from you 1273 01:16:08,064 --> 01:16:11,525 ♪ I drift away 1274 01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:15,321 ♪ I pray that you 1275 01:16:16,363 --> 01:16:20,117 ♪ Are here to stay 1276 01:16:21,619 --> 01:16:24,914 ♪ Anything you want, you got it 1277 01:16:25,956 --> 01:16:29,293 ♪ Anything you need, you got it 1278 01:16:30,086 --> 01:16:33,547 ♪ Anything at all, you got it 1279 01:16:33,631 --> 01:16:36,509 ♪ Baby... 1280 01:16:55,402 --> 01:16:56,403 Oi! 1281 01:16:58,030 --> 01:17:00,366 Today's forecast calls for blue skies. 1282 01:17:11,293 --> 01:17:14,213 ♪ Sun is shining in the sky 1283 01:17:14,547 --> 01:17:17,424 ♪ There ain't a cloud in sight 1284 01:17:17,508 --> 01:17:19,301 ♪ It's stopped raining 1285 01:17:19,343 --> 01:17:21,262 ♪ Everybody's in a play 1286 01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:23,013 ♪ And don't you know 1287 01:17:23,055 --> 01:17:25,933 ♪ It's a beautiful new day 1288 01:17:26,016 --> 01:17:27,184 ♪ Hey, hey 1289 01:17:27,893 --> 01:17:30,354 ♪ Running down the avenue... 1290 01:17:30,437 --> 01:17:33,023 One of the great things about getting the job 1291 01:17:33,065 --> 01:17:35,401 was to stop my mum banging up the stairs, 1292 01:17:35,484 --> 01:17:36,861 running up the stairs, shouting 1293 01:17:36,944 --> 01:17:39,196 "Hey, come on, you lazy bugger, get up." 1294 01:17:39,238 --> 01:17:42,032 And this would be like at 7:30 or eight o'clock in the morning 1295 01:17:42,116 --> 01:17:43,492 This one morning she did this. 1296 01:17:43,534 --> 01:17:46,120 I said, "Hang on, Mum, before you start, 1297 01:17:46,203 --> 01:17:48,539 I'm not getting up today or ever again." 1298 01:17:48,622 --> 01:17:51,208 "I'm a professional musician now." 1299 01:17:51,292 --> 01:17:53,169 And you should have seen the look on her face. 1300 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,549 ♪ Mr Blue Sky, please tell us why 1301 01:17:58,632 --> 01:18:03,304 ♪ You had to hide away for so long, so long 1302 01:18:03,387 --> 01:18:05,389 ♪ Where did we go wrong? 1303 01:18:26,202 --> 01:18:28,329 ♪ Hey, you with the pretty face 1304 01:18:28,412 --> 01:18:32,082 ♪ Welcome to the human race 1305 01:18:32,166 --> 01:18:33,250 ♪ A celebration 1306 01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:36,086 ♪ Mr Blue Sky's up there waitin' 1307 01:18:36,128 --> 01:18:41,425 ♪ And today is the day we've waited for, ah ah 1308 01:18:42,593 --> 01:18:45,512 ♪ Mr Blue Sky, please tell us why 1309 01:18:45,596 --> 01:18:50,184 ♪ You had to hide away for so long, so long 1310 01:18:50,267 --> 01:18:52,228 ♪ Where did we go wrong? 1311 01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:56,023 ♪ Hey there, Mr Blue 1312 01:18:56,106 --> 01:18:58,901 ♪ We're so pleased to be with you 1313 01:18:58,943 --> 01:19:01,528 ♪ Look around, see what you do 1314 01:19:01,612 --> 01:19:04,490 ♪ Everybody smiles at you 1315 01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:09,912 ♪ Mr Blue Sky 1316 01:19:11,413 --> 01:19:15,334 ♪ Mr Blue Sky 1317 01:19:16,835 --> 01:19:22,132 ♪ Mr Blue Sky 1318 01:19:23,467 --> 01:19:26,011 ♪ Mr Blue, you did it right 1319 01:19:26,845 --> 01:19:30,099 ♪ But soon comes Mr Night 1320 01:19:48,909 --> 01:19:53,414 ♪ Well, I stuck my finger in a woodpecker's hole 1321 01:19:54,331 --> 01:19:57,334 ♪ And the Woodpecker said God bless my soul 1322 01:19:57,376 --> 01:19:59,586 ♪ Take it out, take it out 1323 01:20:00,212 --> 01:20:02,339 ♪ Take it out, take it out 1324 01:20:02,381 --> 01:20:03,424 Thank you. 1324 01:20:04,305 --> 01:20:10,643 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 108600

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