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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,752 --> 00:00:04,463 Looks like a good spot. We see the mesa, the moon's 2 00:00:04,464 --> 00:00:06,006 gonna be giving us some backlighting. 3 00:00:06,007 --> 00:00:07,758 THOMAS: Do you see the glow? 4 00:00:07,759 --> 00:00:09,594 - The flicker? - Yeah, it looks like the whole 5 00:00:09,595 --> 00:00:11,304 top of the mountain is glowing. 6 00:00:11,305 --> 00:00:12,722 Look, there it is again. 7 00:00:12,723 --> 00:00:14,725 Whoa! That's a definite beam. 8 00:00:14,726 --> 00:00:17,311 - That's spiking. - That could be dangerous. 9 00:00:17,312 --> 00:00:18,812 My head is hurting bad. 10 00:00:18,813 --> 00:00:20,732 Let's get you the heck out of here. 11 00:00:20,733 --> 00:00:23,193 - I'm serious. - This could be life-threatening. 12 00:00:23,194 --> 00:00:25,655 He needs to be in the car, right now on the way 13 00:00:25,656 --> 00:00:27,532 to the emergency room. 14 00:00:29,577 --> 00:00:33,413 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in northern Utah. 15 00:00:33,414 --> 00:00:35,875 It is considered the epicenter 16 00:00:35,876 --> 00:00:40,673 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth. 17 00:00:40,674 --> 00:00:43,050 Animal mutilations, 18 00:00:43,051 --> 00:00:45,178 bizarre UFO sightings, 19 00:00:45,179 --> 00:00:48,932 and unusual energies that have proven harmful 20 00:00:48,933 --> 00:00:50,601 to humans. 21 00:00:50,602 --> 00:00:53,688 For 20 years, the federal government tried 22 00:00:53,689 --> 00:00:56,483 to find answers and failed. 23 00:00:56,484 --> 00:01:00,571 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:00,572 --> 00:01:02,740 researchers and experts 25 00:01:02,741 --> 00:01:04,450 has taken over. 26 00:01:04,451 --> 00:01:06,412 They are determined to solve the mystery 27 00:01:06,413 --> 00:01:08,415 and reveal... 28 00:01:10,626 --> 00:01:14,297 The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 29 00:01:22,890 --> 00:01:24,475 (telephone ringing) 30 00:01:25,686 --> 00:01:28,396 Hey, Brandon. So, as you know, 31 00:01:28,397 --> 00:01:30,149 we had the team out last night, 32 00:01:30,150 --> 00:01:34,153 and we started picking up really heavy RF signals 33 00:01:34,154 --> 00:01:36,616 and things like that, like we have previously. 34 00:01:37,825 --> 00:01:40,036 And, all of the sudden, Tom 35 00:01:40,037 --> 00:01:42,204 started saying that he had a headache 36 00:01:42,205 --> 00:01:45,417 and then reached back to the spot on the back of his head 37 00:01:45,418 --> 00:01:47,127 where he previously had his serious injury 38 00:01:47,128 --> 00:01:49,339 and said that he was having pain there again. 39 00:01:50,382 --> 00:01:53,217 So, Kaleb actually 40 00:01:53,218 --> 00:01:55,846 grabbed him and drove him to the emergency room 41 00:01:55,847 --> 00:01:57,015 to have more testing. 42 00:01:59,059 --> 00:02:02,062 All I know is that people are getting hurt, 43 00:02:02,063 --> 00:02:04,858 and we've got to figure out why the hell that is happening. 44 00:02:07,819 --> 00:02:10,031 I think that's a good idea. 45 00:02:11,574 --> 00:02:13,034 I will. See you. 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,003 - JIM: Morning, guys. - BRYANT: How are you? 47 00:02:23,004 --> 00:02:25,715 Well, I'm sure I got a little more sleep than you guys. 48 00:02:25,716 --> 00:02:28,051 - If you got any, you got more than us. - BRYANT: Yeah, exactly. 49 00:02:28,052 --> 00:02:29,846 - We haven't slept any. - Oh, my gosh. 50 00:02:31,223 --> 00:02:32,598 How about Thomas? 51 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:35,687 Where's our-our good friend Thomas? 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,731 TRAVIS: After what happened 53 00:02:39,732 --> 00:02:41,275 during last night's stakeout at the mesa, 54 00:02:41,276 --> 00:02:43,027 all of us are a bit freaked out. 55 00:02:43,028 --> 00:02:45,531 I mean, what we saw was strange enough, 56 00:02:45,532 --> 00:02:47,950 but then Tom Winterton started getting 57 00:02:47,951 --> 00:02:49,660 the same symptoms he'd had before 58 00:02:49,661 --> 00:02:52,414 where his scalp started separating from his skull. 59 00:02:52,415 --> 00:02:55,042 Right near daylight, 60 00:02:55,043 --> 00:02:57,461 Thomas started having recurring symptoms 61 00:02:57,462 --> 00:02:59,422 from his previous injury, 62 00:02:59,423 --> 00:03:02,592 and we had him go 63 00:03:02,593 --> 00:03:03,886 to the emergency room. 64 00:03:04,930 --> 00:03:06,639 BRYANT: We got 65 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,641 some crazy readings on the RF scale 66 00:03:08,642 --> 00:03:09,934 and things like that. 67 00:03:09,935 --> 00:03:12,020 And immediately, he was like, 68 00:03:12,021 --> 00:03:13,398 "Oh, man, my head hurts." 69 00:03:16,485 --> 00:03:18,446 (exhales, sniffles) 70 00:03:20,115 --> 00:03:22,533 We got him off of the property 71 00:03:22,534 --> 00:03:24,785 as quickly as possible. 72 00:03:24,786 --> 00:03:27,038 - How bad is it? - TRAVIS: You know, it was... 73 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:29,499 It was just... It happened so suddenly. 74 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:31,752 But we don't know. 75 00:03:31,753 --> 00:03:33,963 (grunts) 76 00:03:33,964 --> 00:03:36,049 TRAVIS: Let me tell you. 77 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:37,718 What we measured tonight 78 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:39,845 wasn't a spook. 79 00:03:39,846 --> 00:03:42,015 - It was a real thing. - Yeah. 80 00:03:42,016 --> 00:03:44,058 TRAVIS: We all saw it. It was real. 81 00:03:44,059 --> 00:03:46,187 I completely agree. 82 00:03:46,188 --> 00:03:48,481 JIM: For some reason, uh, 83 00:03:48,482 --> 00:03:49,982 this phenomenon 84 00:03:49,983 --> 00:03:53,028 attaches like a hitchhiker to Tom. 85 00:03:53,029 --> 00:03:55,948 - Yeah, I know. It's... - JIM: And that's one of my biggest fears, 86 00:03:55,949 --> 00:03:59,160 is this happening to, collectively, any one of you. 87 00:03:59,161 --> 00:04:02,706 BRYANT: This is the second injury of this type 88 00:04:02,707 --> 00:04:04,625 that Tom has suffered, 89 00:04:04,626 --> 00:04:08,296 and I don't know if he's gonna be able to come back. 90 00:04:08,297 --> 00:04:10,424 SEGALA: So, let's do this. Let's go get some rest 91 00:04:10,425 --> 00:04:12,760 and then come back to this and-and figure out next steps. 92 00:04:12,761 --> 00:04:14,595 - TRAVIS: I think that's a good plan. - JIM: Yep. 93 00:04:14,596 --> 00:04:15,931 - Yeah, I'm wiped out. - I don't even know 94 00:04:15,932 --> 00:04:17,182 - what my name is anymore. - Yes. 95 00:04:17,183 --> 00:04:19,267 - And keep me posted on-on Tom. - Thanks so much. 96 00:04:19,268 --> 00:04:21,312 - Right? All right. - BRYANT: Oh, yeah, absolutely. 97 00:04:21,313 --> 00:04:23,649 - Thanks so much. - TRAVIS: Yeah, man. 98 00:04:31,992 --> 00:04:33,618 - SEGALA: That's good. - TRAVIS: Yeah. 99 00:04:33,619 --> 00:04:36,164 - All right. All right. Yep. Yep, good. - (horn honking) 100 00:04:38,708 --> 00:04:40,001 What's Kaleb doing? 101 00:04:46,009 --> 00:04:47,386 (grunts) 102 00:04:49,429 --> 00:04:50,556 (chuckles): Hey! 103 00:04:50,557 --> 00:04:51,932 - You're up and about. - BRYANT: Tom! 104 00:04:51,933 --> 00:04:53,475 Hey, guys. 105 00:04:53,476 --> 00:04:55,060 Well, it's good to see you 106 00:04:55,061 --> 00:04:56,896 in an upright position, my friend. 107 00:04:56,897 --> 00:04:58,314 THOMAS: I'm fine. 108 00:04:58,315 --> 00:05:00,191 Welcome back, buddy. 109 00:05:00,192 --> 00:05:02,236 - How you feeling, man? - I'm good. 110 00:05:02,237 --> 00:05:03,863 Good. I'm glad to see that, man. 111 00:05:03,864 --> 00:05:05,532 THOMAS: It was good to come back 112 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:06,616 and see the guys. 113 00:05:06,617 --> 00:05:08,118 You know, when-when I drove up 114 00:05:08,119 --> 00:05:10,036 and the guys are standing there, 115 00:05:10,037 --> 00:05:13,499 um, their concern was definitely humbling 116 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:15,752 and appreciated. 117 00:05:15,753 --> 00:05:18,171 - Hey. Good to see you, brother. - JIM: Good to see you. 118 00:05:18,172 --> 00:05:19,882 - Appreciate you. - It is really good 119 00:05:19,883 --> 00:05:21,467 to see you, uh, up and about, man. 120 00:05:21,468 --> 00:05:23,011 What'd they say at the hospital? 121 00:05:23,012 --> 00:05:26,432 They took me in for a CT scan, and it didn't pick up much. 122 00:05:26,433 --> 00:05:28,559 Well, what about... How long did the pain last? 123 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,520 More than the pain was where it was located. 124 00:05:30,521 --> 00:05:32,939 And the thing that really caused me alarm 125 00:05:32,940 --> 00:05:35,066 was that that exact spot 126 00:05:35,067 --> 00:05:37,904 where that lump first appeared on my first injury... 127 00:05:37,905 --> 00:05:40,114 - Right. - THOMAS: That's where the pain started, 128 00:05:40,115 --> 00:05:41,783 and it started throbbing there. 129 00:05:41,784 --> 00:05:43,327 Well, and it swelled up a little bit. 130 00:05:43,328 --> 00:05:45,622 When we first brought you in, you could feel that there was 131 00:05:45,623 --> 00:05:47,624 - a little bit of it raised up. - Yeah. 132 00:05:47,625 --> 00:05:49,292 And the doctor could even feel... 133 00:05:49,293 --> 00:05:51,337 You know, when he was looking at it and examining me, 134 00:05:51,338 --> 00:05:52,922 he could feel a difference there. 135 00:05:52,923 --> 00:05:55,049 He said, "Yeah, there is a little bit of swelling there." 136 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:56,468 Even when they 137 00:05:56,469 --> 00:05:59,387 took the first scans in my previous injury, 138 00:05:59,388 --> 00:06:01,807 they didn't notice anything right off the bat. 139 00:06:01,808 --> 00:06:04,393 It wasn't until they started looking closer 140 00:06:04,394 --> 00:06:07,272 that they started to see similar characteristics. 141 00:06:07,273 --> 00:06:08,899 SEGALA: The injuries 142 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:11,319 that Tom Winterton experienced two years ago 143 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,697 were of the nature that he had a neurological episode, 144 00:06:14,698 --> 00:06:17,743 and he had a big swelling in the back of his head. 145 00:06:17,744 --> 00:06:20,079 He was admitted to the hospital, 146 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,791 and the attending physicians really were not able 147 00:06:22,792 --> 00:06:25,085 to determine what was wrong with him. 148 00:06:25,086 --> 00:06:27,546 I was called in as a consultant 149 00:06:27,547 --> 00:06:30,341 to try to figure out what happened, 150 00:06:30,342 --> 00:06:33,971 and one of the things that-that struck me about Thomas's case... 151 00:06:33,972 --> 00:06:36,599 His injuries were consistent with a radiation beam 152 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,893 that entered his body from a specific angle, 153 00:06:38,894 --> 00:06:41,563 angle of attack, back behind his head. 154 00:06:41,564 --> 00:06:43,148 We got a lot to do. 155 00:06:43,149 --> 00:06:44,733 Let's get back to it, man. 156 00:06:44,734 --> 00:06:46,569 THOMAS: All right. Let's get back to work. 157 00:06:46,570 --> 00:06:49,698 TRAVIS: It was certainly a relief to see Tom up and about 158 00:06:49,699 --> 00:06:50,825 and learn that he wasn't suffering 159 00:06:50,826 --> 00:06:52,326 any long-term effects, 160 00:06:52,327 --> 00:06:54,078 but we're still pretty spooked out 161 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,624 by what caused his injury in the first place. 162 00:07:12,309 --> 00:07:14,310 I've got the team assembled inside. 163 00:07:14,311 --> 00:07:16,397 - Very good. I have the devices. - Okay. 164 00:07:16,398 --> 00:07:17,982 Let's head on in. 165 00:07:17,983 --> 00:07:20,067 BRANDON: Hey, guys. 166 00:07:20,068 --> 00:07:22,612 - How are you? So good to see you. Tom. - (chuckles) 167 00:07:22,613 --> 00:07:24,072 - THOMAS: Hey, good to see you. - Oh, my friend. 168 00:07:24,073 --> 00:07:25,240 It's so good to see you. 169 00:07:25,241 --> 00:07:26,701 - Oh, well... - I've been so worried about you. 170 00:07:26,702 --> 00:07:27,869 BRYANT: There's a seat right here for you, man. 171 00:07:27,870 --> 00:07:29,829 Great. 172 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:33,208 Well, it's good to be with you. 173 00:07:33,209 --> 00:07:35,335 And as soon as I heard the report 174 00:07:35,336 --> 00:07:38,131 of Tom being run to the hospital, 175 00:07:38,132 --> 00:07:39,758 I've been very, very concerned. 176 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:41,218 Yeah. 177 00:07:41,219 --> 00:07:42,928 It's one thing to see lights on the mesa. 178 00:07:42,929 --> 00:07:46,266 It's another thing to see the TriField meters going off. 179 00:07:46,267 --> 00:07:50,353 But it's a whole other situation 180 00:07:50,354 --> 00:07:53,232 when one of our team members ends up going to the hospital. 181 00:07:53,233 --> 00:07:56,153 - Right. - BRANDON: Given all the incidents 182 00:07:56,154 --> 00:07:59,114 that have occurred recently and Tom's injuries 183 00:07:59,115 --> 00:08:02,702 and so many strange anomalies, 184 00:08:02,703 --> 00:08:06,081 should we go ahead with the investigation further? 185 00:08:06,082 --> 00:08:08,459 Or is this really a point 186 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:10,169 where we need to take a deep breath 187 00:08:10,170 --> 00:08:11,798 and maybe a step back? 188 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:18,012 What-What's your thoughts on that, Tom? 189 00:08:18,013 --> 00:08:21,642 I appreciate all of the concern and love 190 00:08:21,643 --> 00:08:22,810 that's been shown towards me. 191 00:08:22,811 --> 00:08:25,605 This is like the ranch family, as we call it. 192 00:08:26,649 --> 00:08:28,149 If this is about us, 193 00:08:28,150 --> 00:08:29,818 we quit. 194 00:08:29,819 --> 00:08:32,822 But this shouldn't be about us. 195 00:08:32,823 --> 00:08:35,950 I think we're seeing that the ranch 196 00:08:35,951 --> 00:08:38,411 could potentially be a very dangerous place. 197 00:08:38,412 --> 00:08:42,166 But to me, the question is is it the Uinta Basin 198 00:08:42,167 --> 00:08:43,918 that could be a potentially dangerous place? 199 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:47,089 What are my neighbors and my friends being exposed to? 200 00:08:47,090 --> 00:08:49,508 Now, whatever's happening on this ranch 201 00:08:49,509 --> 00:08:52,095 I highly doubt is confined 202 00:08:52,096 --> 00:08:54,764 to the barbwire fence of the 512 acres. 203 00:08:54,765 --> 00:08:57,184 Okay? There are good people that live in this valley. 204 00:08:57,185 --> 00:08:59,103 These people are my people. 205 00:08:59,104 --> 00:09:02,899 - So, you feel a responsibility? - THOMAS: If we're truly 206 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:04,192 seeking for answers, 207 00:09:04,193 --> 00:09:05,819 then I think the answer is we stay 208 00:09:05,820 --> 00:09:08,823 because I want to know if there's 209 00:09:08,824 --> 00:09:11,159 something here that's affecting not just us 210 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,997 but the good people that live around in this valley. 211 00:09:16,249 --> 00:09:18,209 My injury really made this quest 212 00:09:18,210 --> 00:09:20,461 for this science discovery personal. 213 00:09:20,462 --> 00:09:22,464 There's something dangerous. 214 00:09:22,465 --> 00:09:24,008 We need to identify what it is. 215 00:09:24,009 --> 00:09:25,676 We can't cut and run. 216 00:09:25,677 --> 00:09:27,137 It'd be irresponsible. 217 00:09:27,138 --> 00:09:30,599 Well, Thomas, if that's how you feel, 218 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,395 Erik and I have taken immediate steps 219 00:09:34,396 --> 00:09:36,023 regarding how we move forward. 220 00:09:45,826 --> 00:09:47,203 Okay BRANDON: ar. Lights on the mesa. 221 00:09:47,204 --> 00:09:49,163 Tom's injuries. 222 00:09:49,164 --> 00:09:50,915 - These things are real. - Right. 223 00:09:50,916 --> 00:09:52,876 BRANDON: Now, it's one thing to see the TriField meters 224 00:09:52,877 --> 00:09:57,173 going off, but it's a whole other situation 225 00:09:57,174 --> 00:10:00,468 when one of our team members ends up going to the hospital. 226 00:10:00,469 --> 00:10:02,471 Well, with that urgency, 227 00:10:02,472 --> 00:10:05,224 I've recently reached out with Erik to a company 228 00:10:05,225 --> 00:10:06,433 called Biobeat. 229 00:10:06,434 --> 00:10:08,436 They have armed us 230 00:10:08,437 --> 00:10:12,066 with some devices that I wanted to fly out today. 231 00:10:12,067 --> 00:10:16,028 These are wearable sensor devices. 232 00:10:16,029 --> 00:10:19,407 Medical-grade. Will give us the ability to better monitor 233 00:10:19,408 --> 00:10:22,036 the health and safety of our team. 234 00:10:22,037 --> 00:10:23,996 ERIK: What we have here are 235 00:10:23,997 --> 00:10:27,668 basic vital sign measurements like our body temperature, 236 00:10:27,669 --> 00:10:30,712 our heart rate and perspira... our perspiration, respiration. 237 00:10:30,713 --> 00:10:32,548 But we also have the stress indicators 238 00:10:32,549 --> 00:10:35,927 that tell us if we are under some kind of stress. 239 00:10:35,928 --> 00:10:39,306 If something's happening with us, we will immediately be able 240 00:10:39,307 --> 00:10:40,683 to see that right in here. 241 00:10:40,684 --> 00:10:44,187 So, the idea is, yes, we're keeping people safe. 242 00:10:44,188 --> 00:10:49,026 But yes, we are also serving as, as bio sensors. 243 00:10:49,027 --> 00:10:51,487 JIM: So now we have these watches that we're all gonna wear. 244 00:10:51,488 --> 00:10:53,740 We're gonna be monitored 24/7. 245 00:10:53,741 --> 00:10:57,287 If something does happen, then we're alerted 246 00:10:57,288 --> 00:10:58,579 and brought off the ranch immediately. 247 00:10:58,580 --> 00:11:00,456 So, actually, if we had that that night, 248 00:11:00,457 --> 00:11:03,002 and it was set up to alarm, we might have known this 249 00:11:03,003 --> 00:11:06,130 before even Thomas knew this. 250 00:11:06,131 --> 00:11:07,841 Well, gentlemen, I need to get back. 251 00:11:07,842 --> 00:11:10,468 Please know that I am available real time, 252 00:11:10,469 --> 00:11:11,553 and let me know 253 00:11:11,554 --> 00:11:13,306 - how things progress. - JIM: Thank you. 254 00:11:13,307 --> 00:11:15,558 - Appreciate you. - Good to see you. 255 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,600 - Thank you so much. - Yeah. 256 00:11:16,601 --> 00:11:18,479 ♪ ♪ 257 00:11:40,422 --> 00:11:41,797 Hey. There they are. 258 00:11:41,798 --> 00:11:44,217 TRAVIS: After the other night, we all agreed 259 00:11:44,218 --> 00:11:46,511 that we should continue our noninvasive search efforts 260 00:11:46,512 --> 00:11:48,931 to see if the strange radiation spikes we've been getting 261 00:11:48,932 --> 00:11:50,433 are coming from underground. 262 00:11:50,434 --> 00:11:51,894 But what concerns me is that, 263 00:11:51,895 --> 00:11:53,896 even though he hadn't been digging, 264 00:11:53,897 --> 00:11:55,898 Thomas still got sick near the mesa. 265 00:11:55,899 --> 00:11:57,734 So far, it just doesn't add up. 266 00:11:57,735 --> 00:11:59,110 Hey, guys. 267 00:11:59,111 --> 00:12:00,987 - Morning, Erik. - Like to introduce you guys 268 00:12:00,988 --> 00:12:03,824 to Derrick. He's from Hot Shots 269 00:12:03,825 --> 00:12:05,159 - out of L. A. - Derrick and Erik. 270 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,912 - Okay, I can remember that. - How are you? Travis Taylor. 271 00:12:06,913 --> 00:12:08,246 - Derrick Ward. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, man. 272 00:12:08,247 --> 00:12:09,539 So, I've brought Derrick out 273 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:12,502 to do a thermographic imaging of the entire property. 274 00:12:12,503 --> 00:12:15,296 He's a drone expert, and I think he can show us 275 00:12:15,297 --> 00:12:17,341 some things that may be just beneath 276 00:12:17,342 --> 00:12:19,343 the surface of the soil here. 277 00:12:19,344 --> 00:12:23,348 The results of Robert Bigelow's investigation 278 00:12:23,349 --> 00:12:25,558 have never been fully released. 279 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,813 There are rumors about some kind of base 280 00:12:28,814 --> 00:12:31,273 or perhaps an alien artifact 281 00:12:31,274 --> 00:12:33,151 beneath the property 282 00:12:33,152 --> 00:12:35,404 using drone thermography. 283 00:12:35,405 --> 00:12:37,615 Perhaps there is, in fact, something under the ground 284 00:12:37,616 --> 00:12:40,118 that will show up in our imagery. 285 00:12:40,119 --> 00:12:41,744 Really looking forward to seeing 286 00:12:41,745 --> 00:12:43,539 what comes out of our work today. 287 00:12:43,540 --> 00:12:45,874 Yeah. Yeah, we got some of the best technology 288 00:12:45,875 --> 00:12:47,377 out there right now. 289 00:12:47,378 --> 00:12:49,295 Drone itself is about $35,000. 290 00:12:49,296 --> 00:12:51,589 In every image and every pixel of that image, 291 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:53,092 you're able to capture the temperatures. 292 00:12:53,093 --> 00:12:54,718 - Wow. - It's-it's crazy technology. 293 00:12:54,719 --> 00:12:57,139 ERIK: So, for example, if-if there were something, 294 00:12:57,140 --> 00:12:58,807 say a stone structure, 295 00:12:58,808 --> 00:13:00,976 beneath the surface of the soil, 296 00:13:00,977 --> 00:13:03,229 uh, let's say maybe two, three feet down... 297 00:13:03,230 --> 00:13:05,231 If it's right below and it's actually hotter 298 00:13:05,232 --> 00:13:06,607 than everything else, it's creating a signature, 299 00:13:06,608 --> 00:13:09,361 - then we will find that and see that. - Right. 300 00:13:09,362 --> 00:13:11,363 That's cool stuff, man. I'm excited to see what you got. 301 00:13:11,364 --> 00:13:13,032 - So, let's get going. - Yeah. 302 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:15,535 TRAVIS: Because any large metal objects 303 00:13:15,536 --> 00:13:17,872 or structures located underground 304 00:13:17,873 --> 00:13:20,082 are likely to have a higher temperature, 305 00:13:20,083 --> 00:13:21,792 it should appear on Derrick's camera as a darker color. 306 00:13:21,793 --> 00:13:24,337 So if we see anything 307 00:13:24,338 --> 00:13:26,631 out of the ordinary, we can pinpoint it as a place 308 00:13:26,632 --> 00:13:28,927 where we can come back later and maybe dig. 309 00:13:30,637 --> 00:13:32,474 DERRICK: Okay, all clear. 310 00:13:42,067 --> 00:13:43,694 Those things are so cool. 311 00:13:43,695 --> 00:13:46,572 DERRICK: Now watch carefully what happens. 312 00:13:46,573 --> 00:13:48,700 Give you guys an example of the capability here. 313 00:13:48,701 --> 00:13:50,493 So we got a thermal camera. 314 00:13:50,494 --> 00:13:52,288 If we see something and we're not sure what it is 315 00:13:52,289 --> 00:13:53,664 in the thermal image, 316 00:13:53,665 --> 00:13:56,375 we can immediately switch over to the regular image, 317 00:13:56,376 --> 00:13:58,128 get a closer look. 318 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:00,839 Watch the zoom here when I do this. 319 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,467 BRYANT: That's amazing. 320 00:14:02,468 --> 00:14:04,510 JIM: You can get on a leaf. 321 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:05,929 So, if there was a mountain lion up in there, 322 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:07,681 - you'd probably see that. - Oh, yeah. 323 00:14:07,682 --> 00:14:09,725 JIM: So, right in here, 324 00:14:09,726 --> 00:14:11,560 there's a whole bunch of caves 325 00:14:11,561 --> 00:14:13,563 we get a lot of radiation out of. 326 00:14:13,564 --> 00:14:15,565 We got some black stuff right there. 327 00:14:15,566 --> 00:14:17,317 See all inside of there? 328 00:14:17,318 --> 00:14:19,320 TRAVIS: Is that a shadow or is that a cool spot? 329 00:14:19,321 --> 00:14:20,905 DERRICK: Well, let's find out. 330 00:14:20,906 --> 00:14:22,658 ERIK: I think you're looking at shadows. 331 00:14:22,659 --> 00:14:24,660 DERRICK: Yeah, that's all shadows. 332 00:14:24,661 --> 00:14:26,703 BRYANT: So, Erik, what are you 333 00:14:26,704 --> 00:14:29,624 mostly curious about checking out 334 00:14:29,625 --> 00:14:32,168 - with all this thermal I-imagery? - What I'd like to do 335 00:14:32,169 --> 00:14:34,672 is I'd like to put that drone as high in the sky as I can 336 00:14:34,673 --> 00:14:37,884 and look straight down and fly over the field. 337 00:14:37,885 --> 00:14:39,387 We'll go up and get that for you. 338 00:14:40,721 --> 00:14:42,723 ERIK: Let's suppose we have 339 00:14:42,724 --> 00:14:45,685 some really big structure under the property, 340 00:14:45,686 --> 00:14:48,897 like circular things, something rectangular. 341 00:14:48,898 --> 00:14:51,400 If we see shapes like that in the thermal profile, 342 00:14:51,401 --> 00:14:55,071 then that may be a hint as to where something unusual 343 00:14:55,072 --> 00:14:57,282 is located under the ground. 344 00:14:57,283 --> 00:14:59,493 So, what would account for this... 345 00:14:59,494 --> 00:15:02,747 this boundary here, between this area and this area? 346 00:15:02,748 --> 00:15:04,499 DERRICK: Just the way things are hitting the sun. 347 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:07,252 The vegetation of it is longer in one area than the other, 348 00:15:07,253 --> 00:15:09,213 then it's creating shade somewhere. 349 00:15:09,214 --> 00:15:11,465 I like the striations there. That's interesting. 350 00:15:11,466 --> 00:15:13,260 JIM: That's the bait pen. 351 00:15:13,261 --> 00:15:15,929 - DERRICK: What's that? - BRYANT: The previous ownership 352 00:15:15,930 --> 00:15:19,100 put cattle or dogs or whatever in that area 353 00:15:19,101 --> 00:15:21,936 as an early warning or detection system. 354 00:15:21,937 --> 00:15:24,107 - TRAVIS: It wasn't us. - Yeah. Not at all. 355 00:15:27,737 --> 00:15:30,363 BRANDON: Immediately upon Robert Bigelow's occupation 356 00:15:30,364 --> 00:15:32,157 of the property and bringing the... 357 00:15:32,158 --> 00:15:34,535 scientific team on Skinwalker Ranch, 358 00:15:34,536 --> 00:15:37,831 they installed observation towers 359 00:15:37,832 --> 00:15:41,251 with razor wire and enclosures around them. 360 00:15:41,252 --> 00:15:44,422 With the constant daylight cattle mutilations 361 00:15:44,423 --> 00:15:46,341 that were occurring on the property, 362 00:15:46,342 --> 00:15:49,803 the idea was to actually place livestock 363 00:15:49,804 --> 00:15:51,263 - in these enclosures - (mooing) 364 00:15:51,264 --> 00:15:54,977 to see the phenomena at work. 365 00:15:56,479 --> 00:15:59,565 That study and a lot of the findings 366 00:15:59,566 --> 00:16:01,317 that came out of those years, 367 00:16:01,318 --> 00:16:03,695 you know, remain under lock and key. 368 00:16:03,696 --> 00:16:06,114 ERIK: So far in what you've seen, 369 00:16:06,115 --> 00:16:07,366 have you seen any hard edges, 370 00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:09,452 corners, anything? 371 00:16:09,453 --> 00:16:12,622 No. I haven't seen anything that-that just seems abnormal. 372 00:16:12,623 --> 00:16:15,834 TRAVIS: Even though everything from UFO sightings 373 00:16:15,835 --> 00:16:17,544 to cattle mutilations have happened 374 00:16:17,545 --> 00:16:19,172 on this part of the ranch, 375 00:16:19,173 --> 00:16:21,800 we didn't see anything unusual underground. 376 00:16:21,801 --> 00:16:23,803 Yeah, well, this is all data 377 00:16:23,804 --> 00:16:25,346 - that we've got. - ERIK: Yeah. 378 00:16:25,347 --> 00:16:26,889 I think we can bring it in, and-and let's head on 379 00:16:26,890 --> 00:16:27,891 to the western end of the property. 380 00:16:27,892 --> 00:16:29,644 - (beep) - All right. That works. 381 00:16:32,688 --> 00:16:35,274 TRAVIS: We decided to head over to what's known as Homestead Two. 382 00:16:35,275 --> 00:16:37,068 It's right by the area of the mesa 383 00:16:37,069 --> 00:16:39,488 where we've been getting all these radiation spikes. 384 00:16:39,489 --> 00:16:41,782 It's also where there's been a concentration 385 00:16:41,783 --> 00:16:43,701 of strange phenomena, like glowing lights 386 00:16:43,702 --> 00:16:46,705 at night and even some reported paranormal activity. 387 00:16:47,790 --> 00:16:50,543 Homestead Two was built in 1905 388 00:16:50,544 --> 00:16:51,961 by John and Emma Meyers, 389 00:16:51,962 --> 00:16:53,672 who lived there and raised cattle. 390 00:16:53,673 --> 00:16:57,175 It's been abandoned since the 1930s, 391 00:16:57,176 --> 00:17:00,556 and a lot of the locals think it's haunted. 392 00:17:02,015 --> 00:17:03,809 ERIK: As we go out just around 393 00:17:03,810 --> 00:17:06,311 - the point of the mesa here. - DERRICK: Okay. 394 00:17:06,312 --> 00:17:09,023 BRYANT: It seems to be that a lot of the activity 395 00:17:09,024 --> 00:17:12,527 or strangeness that we encounter is centered 396 00:17:12,528 --> 00:17:14,113 around those homesteads. 397 00:17:14,114 --> 00:17:15,990 THOMAS: You can see the old homestead right there. 398 00:17:15,991 --> 00:17:17,700 - DERRICK: Yeah. - BRYANT: We have things 399 00:17:17,701 --> 00:17:20,495 from batteries on equipment going from 100% 400 00:17:20,496 --> 00:17:22,914 to zero in a matter of seconds, 401 00:17:22,915 --> 00:17:25,668 people feeling vertigo or not being able 402 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:27,170 to hear sound. 403 00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:30,632 DERRICK: All set. Ready to go. 404 00:17:30,633 --> 00:17:33,470 Well, so, our hot spots right here are on top of the mesa. 405 00:17:33,471 --> 00:17:34,888 And-and right over 406 00:17:34,889 --> 00:17:37,807 in this area is a cave that we've been observing. 407 00:17:37,808 --> 00:17:39,351 And then these houses here-- 408 00:17:39,352 --> 00:17:41,312 we want to make sure we get good views of them. 409 00:17:41,313 --> 00:17:43,565 - Right? - DERRICK: Okay. All right. 410 00:17:43,566 --> 00:17:45,567 Let's do this. I'll fire it up. 411 00:17:45,568 --> 00:17:48,155 (drone beeps on) 412 00:17:50,324 --> 00:17:52,284 (beeps) 413 00:17:56,122 --> 00:17:58,501 No connection. 414 00:17:59,585 --> 00:18:00,794 TRAVIS: Huh. 415 00:18:00,795 --> 00:18:02,045 That's weird. 416 00:18:02,046 --> 00:18:03,297 That... It makes no sense. 417 00:18:03,298 --> 00:18:04,340 - (beeping) - DERRICK: We're not connected. 418 00:18:04,341 --> 00:18:06,008 I'm not connecting to the remote. 419 00:18:06,009 --> 00:18:07,968 I don't know what's happening with it. 420 00:18:07,969 --> 00:18:10,847 Well, there's a reason why we wanted him to check this area, 421 00:18:10,848 --> 00:18:12,141 because of stuff like this. 422 00:18:21,736 --> 00:18:23,738 BRYANT: Near the old Homestead Number Two 423 00:18:23,739 --> 00:18:26,157 is an area where we're always having issues 424 00:18:26,158 --> 00:18:29,495 with electronic equipment and malfunctions. 425 00:18:29,496 --> 00:18:31,997 When we went to the sinkhole that we have up 426 00:18:31,998 --> 00:18:35,168 above Homestead Two, another similar thing happened. 427 00:18:35,169 --> 00:18:37,045 I will tell you, my phone battery just went... 428 00:18:37,046 --> 00:18:39,340 - (sputters) - Your battery's dead on your phone? 429 00:18:39,341 --> 00:18:41,259 - Huh. - TRAVIS: Yeah. Your battery's dead, too, 430 00:18:41,260 --> 00:18:43,387 - ain't it? - It shut off. 431 00:18:43,388 --> 00:18:45,180 TRAVIS: If there's one place on the property 432 00:18:45,181 --> 00:18:47,683 where cell phones and electronic equipment won't work 433 00:18:47,684 --> 00:18:49,394 or meter readings will go haywire, 434 00:18:49,395 --> 00:18:51,062 it's here. 435 00:18:51,063 --> 00:18:54,024 The real problem is we can't figure out why. 436 00:18:54,025 --> 00:18:57,361 Do you think it's interference from something or... 437 00:18:57,362 --> 00:18:59,406 Well, it is, but what's cau... 438 00:18:59,407 --> 00:19:02,534 I mean, I could walk five feet and see if it changes. 439 00:19:02,535 --> 00:19:05,372 - So let me do that first and see what happens. - Okay. 440 00:19:09,377 --> 00:19:11,879 Is it connecting to you over there, Derrick? 441 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,882 - No. - Huh. 442 00:19:13,883 --> 00:19:16,509 Yeah, we've seen batteries act squirrelly around here anyway. 443 00:19:16,510 --> 00:19:20,389 And it zapped the battery of my phone, like, almost instantly. 444 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:21,891 It could be something weird 445 00:19:21,892 --> 00:19:24,061 about this-this little area here. 446 00:19:25,730 --> 00:19:27,230 ERIK: I do have 447 00:19:27,231 --> 00:19:29,609 some prominent signal here. 448 00:19:29,610 --> 00:19:31,402 - TRAVIS: At what frequency? Do you know? - Well, 5480. 449 00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:32,779 TRAVIS: So, at five gigahertz. 450 00:19:35,199 --> 00:19:38,076 5.2. 451 00:19:38,077 --> 00:19:41,539 So, we're getting a five gigahertz signal. 452 00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:42,916 That's weird. 453 00:19:42,917 --> 00:19:44,919 That's not just weird. It's concerning. 454 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,588 BRYANT: There have been times when I've been out 455 00:19:47,589 --> 00:19:49,049 by the old homestead 456 00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:51,760 and got a really creepy feeling. 457 00:19:51,761 --> 00:19:53,428 So, whatever it is, you know, 458 00:19:53,429 --> 00:19:54,597 I'll leave it to the scientists 459 00:19:54,598 --> 00:19:56,307 to try and decipher it. All I know 460 00:19:56,308 --> 00:19:59,102 is that something strange happened that caused 461 00:19:59,103 --> 00:20:02,105 so much interference that a $35,000 drone 462 00:20:02,106 --> 00:20:03,607 couldn't get up in the air. 463 00:20:03,608 --> 00:20:05,985 You know, we may be done here for the day, 464 00:20:05,986 --> 00:20:07,612 because, uh... because of this. 465 00:20:07,613 --> 00:20:08,948 And we certainly don't want to put your drone at risk. 466 00:20:08,949 --> 00:20:10,575 - Yeah. - Let's call this a wrap. 467 00:20:12,953 --> 00:20:14,621 Derrick, man, appreciate you coming out. 468 00:20:14,622 --> 00:20:17,248 - We really appreciate you coming out. - More than happy to do it. 469 00:20:17,249 --> 00:20:19,044 - Thank you. Thank you. - Hey, we'll figure this out. 470 00:20:28,137 --> 00:20:30,139 TRAVIS: There is electromagnetic radiation. 471 00:20:30,140 --> 00:20:33,518 That spike all around the ranch. 472 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:35,854 You know what, we should get those TriField meters... 473 00:20:35,855 --> 00:20:37,648 - Yep. - out here. 474 00:20:37,649 --> 00:20:39,275 So, after the drone stopped working, 475 00:20:39,276 --> 00:20:41,653 I figured out a way that we could modify our meters 476 00:20:41,654 --> 00:20:43,655 so that they could help us pinpoint the source 477 00:20:43,656 --> 00:20:44,907 of this interference. 478 00:20:44,908 --> 00:20:47,576 So, real quick, I'll show y'all what we're gonna do. 479 00:20:47,577 --> 00:20:50,163 Right now, I'm not sure, when we're holding these meters 480 00:20:50,164 --> 00:20:52,082 any particular way, 481 00:20:52,083 --> 00:20:54,961 which direction the signal's coming from. 482 00:20:54,962 --> 00:20:57,046 That's what these are for. 483 00:20:57,047 --> 00:21:00,009 We put this in the can, turn it on. 484 00:21:00,010 --> 00:21:01,385 - SEGALA: Right. - That's gonna allow us 485 00:21:01,386 --> 00:21:03,345 to do directional measurements, 486 00:21:03,346 --> 00:21:04,681 and that'll tell us which direction 487 00:21:04,682 --> 00:21:06,434 the-the signal's coming from. 488 00:21:09,521 --> 00:21:11,731 SEGALA: Oh, my God, that's huge. 489 00:21:11,732 --> 00:21:13,816 - That's at 900. - 900. 490 00:21:13,817 --> 00:21:15,986 - There's a blip there. - There is a huge peak right now, 900 megahertz. 491 00:21:15,987 --> 00:21:18,780 It is totally pegged out right now. 492 00:21:18,781 --> 00:21:22,035 As I turn it away, and as I turn it that way, 493 00:21:22,036 --> 00:21:23,411 it picks back up. 494 00:21:23,412 --> 00:21:24,997 This is strange. 495 00:21:24,998 --> 00:21:27,958 Because the coffee cans block out any extraneous RF signals, 496 00:21:27,959 --> 00:21:30,378 it seems that the radiation might be coming 497 00:21:30,379 --> 00:21:33,590 from above the ground and not below, like we all suspected. 498 00:21:33,591 --> 00:21:35,551 Now, to prove it, we need to get measurements 499 00:21:35,552 --> 00:21:37,595 from three random locations on the ranch. 500 00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:39,556 By pointing our meters in the direction 501 00:21:39,557 --> 00:21:41,391 toward where we get the strongest reading 502 00:21:41,392 --> 00:21:42,434 and see where they intersect, 503 00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:44,395 we can then use triangulation 504 00:21:44,396 --> 00:21:47,231 to pinpoint exactly where this radiation's coming from. 505 00:21:47,232 --> 00:21:50,069 Okay, so here's what we need to do, guys. 506 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:52,279 While we know there's a signal there, 507 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,240 let's run some distance from here, 508 00:21:54,241 --> 00:21:56,285 like maybe over to the corner of the helipad area. 509 00:21:58,579 --> 00:22:01,040 We are pegged out, pointed in this direction. 510 00:22:01,041 --> 00:22:02,792 Where's my phone? 511 00:22:02,793 --> 00:22:04,920 Let's get a reading from both phones, right? 512 00:22:04,921 --> 00:22:06,922 - THOMAS: Yep. - Then we can draw a line 513 00:22:06,923 --> 00:22:08,173 from here... 514 00:22:08,174 --> 00:22:10,093 straight that way, straight in the direction, 515 00:22:10,094 --> 00:22:12,095 and then from over there draw a line, 516 00:22:12,096 --> 00:22:14,139 and wherever those lines cross, that should be 517 00:22:14,140 --> 00:22:15,974 where the signal's coming from. 518 00:22:15,975 --> 00:22:18,102 - Here, let me hold that. - See, when I go like this, 519 00:22:18,103 --> 00:22:19,312 I'm picking up horizontal stuff. 520 00:22:19,313 --> 00:22:21,106 I go like this, I'm picking up vertical. 521 00:22:21,107 --> 00:22:24,109 So I get my biggest readings when I'm like this, looking up. 522 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:26,195 Yeah, it's straight. It's coming straight up,. 523 00:22:26,196 --> 00:22:27,863 THOMAS: This is perfectly plum. 524 00:22:27,864 --> 00:22:29,492 It's coming from up there. 525 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,288 Look-it, it's going nuts. 526 00:22:34,289 --> 00:22:36,624 Look at that jumping like crazy. 527 00:22:36,625 --> 00:22:39,168 All right, right now we need to get in a vehicle 528 00:22:39,169 --> 00:22:41,130 and drive... 529 00:22:41,131 --> 00:22:43,132 to the far corners of the ranch and make this measurement 530 00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:44,801 and mark where we were when we made it. 531 00:22:44,802 --> 00:22:46,845 So then we can map it on a map. 532 00:22:46,846 --> 00:22:48,848 ♪ ♪ 533 00:22:50,058 --> 00:22:51,976 So we just need to find 534 00:22:51,977 --> 00:22:54,186 a spot that we can use as a marker. 535 00:22:54,187 --> 00:22:56,523 What about right there? 536 00:22:56,524 --> 00:22:58,818 This flower will be our spot. 537 00:23:00,487 --> 00:23:02,030 All right. 538 00:23:04,074 --> 00:23:06,076 It's pegging out, right now. 539 00:23:06,077 --> 00:23:08,162 - Is it pegging out on yours? - Pegged. 540 00:23:08,163 --> 00:23:09,914 TRAVIS: What's the pitch angle of these right now? 541 00:23:09,915 --> 00:23:12,000 - THOMAS: We're right around 38. - SEGALA: Close to 40. 542 00:23:12,001 --> 00:23:14,336 TRAVIS: Well, I think we got what we need from here. 543 00:23:14,337 --> 00:23:18,174 So we need to go either as far east or as far west 544 00:23:18,175 --> 00:23:19,843 and get one more point. 545 00:23:19,844 --> 00:23:21,678 Here you go. 546 00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:23,930 We've got to find a point down here 547 00:23:23,931 --> 00:23:25,642 and make the same measurements that we made up there. 548 00:23:28,478 --> 00:23:31,690 ♪ ♪ 549 00:23:31,691 --> 00:23:33,358 TRAVIS: All right, so, 550 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,361 what we got to do is get some reference points 551 00:23:35,362 --> 00:23:37,113 where we took the measurements. 552 00:23:37,114 --> 00:23:39,032 Now that Jim and Tom and I 553 00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:41,035 have recorded three different points across the ranch 554 00:23:41,036 --> 00:23:43,204 where these radiation spikes keep occurring, 555 00:23:43,205 --> 00:23:45,207 we're gonna go plot them out on a map 556 00:23:45,208 --> 00:23:46,750 and see exactly where they intercept. 557 00:23:46,751 --> 00:23:50,379 Right here is the spot. Right? 558 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:52,381 THOMAS: We had right next to the helipad right there. 559 00:23:52,382 --> 00:23:54,008 TRAVIS: Right there. Okay. 560 00:23:54,009 --> 00:23:56,053 And then we were out here by a power pole somewhere. 561 00:23:56,054 --> 00:23:57,804 Right there is the shadow of the power pole. 562 00:23:57,805 --> 00:23:59,056 - TRAVIS: Yeah. - THOMAS: Good, good. - SEGALA: Perfect. 563 00:23:59,057 --> 00:24:00,058 TRAVIS: So right there. 564 00:24:00,059 --> 00:24:01,684 So there's one, two... 565 00:24:01,685 --> 00:24:03,770 three... let's see, and we'll need 566 00:24:03,771 --> 00:24:06,565 the angles that we measured from each of the points. 567 00:24:06,566 --> 00:24:08,734 We figured out the angles 568 00:24:08,735 --> 00:24:11,321 that we were detecting energy from the sky 569 00:24:11,322 --> 00:24:12,864 at three different points. 570 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:15,076 And these angles are gonna cross 571 00:24:15,077 --> 00:24:16,577 at some point above the ranch. 572 00:24:16,578 --> 00:24:19,957 Using some basic high school trigonometry, 573 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:21,959 we can calculate that height. 574 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,754 This one was like that. 575 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:27,423 Look, they're gonna cross up here somewhere. 576 00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:29,092 SEGALA: Yeah. 577 00:24:29,093 --> 00:24:31,845 TRAVIS: And this one was like that. 578 00:24:31,846 --> 00:24:35,476 - So how-how high is that? - SEGALA: Who's got that calculator? 579 00:24:37,103 --> 00:24:40,648 Yeah, it's just, it's... it's 5,700 feet. 580 00:24:40,649 --> 00:24:42,776 One mile high. 581 00:24:44,654 --> 00:24:47,531 Do we ever see airplanes flying at a mile high over there? 582 00:24:47,532 --> 00:24:48,949 What does that mean, even? 583 00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:50,493 TRAVIS: So, one mile high 584 00:24:50,494 --> 00:24:53,329 is only about a sixth as high as jets fly. 585 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:55,666 That means that whatever is doing this 586 00:24:55,667 --> 00:24:57,960 should be seen by the naked eye. 587 00:24:57,961 --> 00:25:00,630 So why can't we? This just doesn't add up. 588 00:25:00,631 --> 00:25:03,800 We took scientifically accurate measurements, 589 00:25:03,801 --> 00:25:05,094 and they lead us to a spot 590 00:25:05,095 --> 00:25:06,804 somewhere up here over the ranch. 591 00:25:06,805 --> 00:25:08,514 That is our next measurement. 592 00:25:08,515 --> 00:25:11,852 And the way we could do that is we tether a weather balloon 593 00:25:11,853 --> 00:25:14,104 and raise it up through that region, 594 00:25:14,105 --> 00:25:15,773 that has equipment on it. 595 00:25:15,774 --> 00:25:18,151 We get it up there and see if we see something there. 596 00:25:18,152 --> 00:25:20,946 If we see something there, that's even more exciting. 597 00:25:20,947 --> 00:25:23,866 That sounds like fun. Hey, th... yeah, that's awesome. 598 00:25:23,867 --> 00:25:26,828 Yeah. And every time we think we have an idea of a solution, 599 00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:29,790 the answer ends up being something weirder. 600 00:25:38,843 --> 00:25:40,303 THOMAS: This TRAVIS: of the most impor Hey, Matt. ments 601 00:25:40,304 --> 00:25:41,554 - Hey, Travis. - How you doing, man? 602 00:25:41,555 --> 00:25:43,097 - I'm great. How are you? - Good to see you. 603 00:25:43,098 --> 00:25:44,682 - Good to see you, too. - This is Thomas. 604 00:25:44,683 --> 00:25:46,727 TRAVIS: Once we figured out 605 00:25:46,728 --> 00:25:47,978 that the strange energy source 606 00:25:47,979 --> 00:25:49,813 was coming from about a mile above the ranch, 607 00:25:49,814 --> 00:25:51,232 I called up a friend of mine, 608 00:25:51,233 --> 00:25:53,068 Dr. Matt Turner-- he's from the University 609 00:25:53,069 --> 00:25:54,319 of Alabama in Huntsville. 610 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,905 He's got a PhD in mechanical 611 00:25:55,906 --> 00:25:57,198 and aerospace engineering, 612 00:25:57,199 --> 00:25:59,700 and he's an expert in the use of weather balloons. 613 00:25:59,701 --> 00:26:03,163 We've measured some really strong RF fields 614 00:26:03,164 --> 00:26:05,208 - Mm-hmm. - coming from the sky. 615 00:26:05,209 --> 00:26:07,627 And so we think there's a focus somewhere, 616 00:26:07,628 --> 00:26:10,255 and we're guessing that the focus may be as much 617 00:26:10,256 --> 00:26:12,132 - as a mile high, so what I'd like to do - Yeah. 618 00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:14,426 is set up an experiment, and let's start measuring that. 619 00:26:14,427 --> 00:26:15,720 That sounds great. 620 00:26:15,721 --> 00:26:17,555 I got balloons. We've got helium. 621 00:26:17,556 --> 00:26:19,140 We've got some payload platforms. 622 00:26:19,141 --> 00:26:20,476 And we just need your meters, 623 00:26:20,477 --> 00:26:22,436 - and we're good to go. - All right. 624 00:26:22,437 --> 00:26:24,731 - Let's get everything loaded up, and let's do that. - Excellent. 625 00:26:26,776 --> 00:26:28,777 THOMAS: You just go down the road, 626 00:26:28,778 --> 00:26:31,073 and you hit it right over there. 627 00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:35,911 TRAVIS: I think this is a good spot, guys. 628 00:26:35,912 --> 00:26:37,454 Based on the triangulation 629 00:26:37,455 --> 00:26:40,291 of where these strange microwave and radio signals 630 00:26:40,292 --> 00:26:43,420 are coming from, what we're going to do is 631 00:26:43,421 --> 00:26:44,963 use a weather balloon with instruments on it 632 00:26:44,964 --> 00:26:46,424 to fly it through 633 00:26:46,425 --> 00:26:48,300 the point on the ranch where we believe 634 00:26:48,301 --> 00:26:49,593 this stuff is coming from. 635 00:26:49,594 --> 00:26:51,596 All right, so, with this balloon, 636 00:26:51,597 --> 00:26:52,889 with the tether, especially, we should be able 637 00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:54,307 to pick an altitude 638 00:26:54,308 --> 00:26:56,185 and go to that altitude and measure, 639 00:26:56,186 --> 00:26:57,645 with the TriField meters, 640 00:26:57,646 --> 00:26:59,939 - and dial in the altitude that we want. - TRAVIS: Nice. 641 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:01,859 SEGALA: So, at the end of the day, if we could have 642 00:27:01,860 --> 00:27:04,903 a chart that says altitude, RF energy, and show the plot, 643 00:27:04,904 --> 00:27:06,698 that would be amazing. 644 00:27:06,699 --> 00:27:08,867 TRAVIS: After attaching one of our RF meters 645 00:27:08,868 --> 00:27:11,579 to measure possible radio or microwave energy, 646 00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:13,372 we've also attached a camera, so that we can photograph 647 00:27:13,373 --> 00:27:16,084 what happens when the balloon's up in the sky. 648 00:27:16,085 --> 00:27:17,627 MATT: All right, Kaleb. 649 00:27:17,628 --> 00:27:18,712 Fire in the hole. 650 00:27:18,713 --> 00:27:19,797 (gas hissing) 651 00:27:22,593 --> 00:27:25,679 MATT: What Travis is trying to measure-- I've never heard 652 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,097 of that occurring on Earth. 653 00:27:27,098 --> 00:27:29,266 But the physics behind it is sound. 654 00:27:29,267 --> 00:27:33,062 So it could exist-- we just don't know it yet. 655 00:27:33,063 --> 00:27:35,357 - MATT: Okay. - (turns off gas) 656 00:27:35,358 --> 00:27:38,736 TRAVIS: So, we're connected to the top of the chute. 657 00:27:38,737 --> 00:27:40,614 Okay, you guys ready? 658 00:27:40,615 --> 00:27:41,615 - Yep. - Good to go. 659 00:27:41,616 --> 00:27:42,616 TRAVIS: All right, here we go. 660 00:27:42,617 --> 00:27:44,242 Jim, watch your head. 661 00:27:44,243 --> 00:27:45,662 All right. 662 00:27:46,997 --> 00:27:49,040 All right, slowly let it up. 663 00:27:49,041 --> 00:27:51,210 All right, keep going. You're good. 664 00:27:51,211 --> 00:27:52,711 THOMAS: Hey, we're clear. 665 00:27:52,712 --> 00:27:54,505 TRAVIS: All right. 666 00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,135 THOMAS: Man, that's a big balloon. 667 00:27:59,136 --> 00:28:00,721 KALEB: I'm surprised there's not any wind blowing 668 00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:02,306 - that sucker around right now. - MATT: I know, 669 00:28:02,307 --> 00:28:03,724 I'm extremely surprised. 670 00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:06,978 Yeah, ain't that cool? 671 00:28:06,979 --> 00:28:08,813 THOMAS: I can only imagine what the neighbors 672 00:28:08,814 --> 00:28:11,192 - are saying right now. - TRAVIS: Oh, yeah, right? 673 00:28:11,193 --> 00:28:13,194 THOMAS: The balloon experiment, for me, 674 00:28:13,195 --> 00:28:16,240 is one of the most important experiments that we've got. 675 00:28:16,241 --> 00:28:19,284 Because of my injury and what's taken place, 676 00:28:19,285 --> 00:28:23,206 I'm very interested in these unseen frequencies 677 00:28:23,207 --> 00:28:25,709 and signals that are going through the air. 678 00:28:25,710 --> 00:28:29,630 This is proving to be one of the more significant anomalies 679 00:28:29,631 --> 00:28:31,758 on Skinwalker Ranch. 680 00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:33,260 - MATT: 320 feet. - (low, rapid clicking) 681 00:28:33,261 --> 00:28:35,554 - (whirring) - That's not bad. - TRAVIS: Yeah. 682 00:28:35,555 --> 00:28:37,974 Uh, I want to see how high we can get it, 683 00:28:37,975 --> 00:28:40,727 - so feed me the spool right through here. - MATT: Through here? 684 00:28:40,728 --> 00:28:42,562 Yeah. 685 00:28:42,563 --> 00:28:43,897 (wind whistling) 686 00:28:43,898 --> 00:28:45,524 The wind's picking up, so... 687 00:28:45,526 --> 00:28:47,735 what I'd like to do is pull this thing down, 688 00:28:47,736 --> 00:28:51,365 and don't let it hit the grass, 'cause it goes pop. 689 00:28:51,366 --> 00:28:53,492 ♪ ♪ 690 00:28:53,493 --> 00:28:55,745 TRAVIS: Yo! Whoa, don't go too fast, 691 00:28:55,746 --> 00:28:58,081 'cause the wind's blowing. 692 00:28:58,082 --> 00:29:00,083 The wind's really picking up now. 693 00:29:00,084 --> 00:29:03,129 We got to let it out now, or it's gonna crash. 694 00:29:03,130 --> 00:29:04,630 Let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go. 695 00:29:04,631 --> 00:29:05,841 Hurry, we're gonna lose it. 696 00:29:05,842 --> 00:29:07,259 - THOMAS: Cut it? - No, no, no. 697 00:29:07,260 --> 00:29:08,510 No, no, no, no. 698 00:29:08,511 --> 00:29:10,470 Let it spool it, let it spool out. 699 00:29:10,471 --> 00:29:12,932 Go up, go up, go up, go up, 700 00:29:12,933 --> 00:29:14,350 go up, go up. 701 00:29:14,351 --> 00:29:16,061 It's going down... 702 00:29:16,062 --> 00:29:17,229 Come on. Up! 703 00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:18,440 We lost her. 704 00:29:22,194 --> 00:29:24,362 We lost it. 705 00:29:24,363 --> 00:29:26,657 - I think it broke the line. - KALEB: It's all over there. 706 00:29:26,658 --> 00:29:28,784 There's that 50-pound test line. That's a lot of pressure. 707 00:29:28,785 --> 00:29:30,161 - There was a lot of wind. - Crap. 708 00:29:30,162 --> 00:29:32,247 Dadgum it. 709 00:29:32,248 --> 00:29:33,832 So here's what we're gonna do. 710 00:29:33,833 --> 00:29:36,127 We're gonna go and try and recover the payload, 711 00:29:36,128 --> 00:29:37,754 and if the wind dies down enough, 712 00:29:37,755 --> 00:29:40,006 I say we're gonna forget with the tether at this point, 713 00:29:40,007 --> 00:29:42,009 and let's just do a free-fly, 714 00:29:42,010 --> 00:29:44,887 - let one go with the payload on it. - Okay. 715 00:29:44,888 --> 00:29:47,265 Once we find the balloon and get our gear off of it, 716 00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:49,726 we're just gonna let the next one get as high as it can. 717 00:29:49,727 --> 00:29:51,479 Hopefully, it'll help us figure out 718 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,106 what could be above the ranch causing these radiation spikes. 719 00:29:54,107 --> 00:29:55,733 (over radio): All right, then we'll meet you 720 00:29:55,734 --> 00:29:57,444 - back at the Jeep. - THOMAS: Okay. 721 00:29:57,445 --> 00:29:59,946 We're gonna head back and start preparing for the next launch. 722 00:29:59,947 --> 00:30:02,283 This next balloon 723 00:30:02,284 --> 00:30:04,911 will not only have the TriField meter and a camera on it, 724 00:30:04,912 --> 00:30:07,623 but also an audio beacon and a GPS device. 725 00:30:07,624 --> 00:30:11,504 That way we can track its location as it gathers data. 726 00:30:17,844 --> 00:30:19,679 - Shut it off. - Okay. 727 00:30:20,890 --> 00:30:22,849 Got a lot of lift on it? 728 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:24,560 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 729 00:30:27,022 --> 00:30:29,107 TRAVIS: All right, we're good. 730 00:30:29,108 --> 00:30:31,652 - (steady beeping) - MATT: Yep, yep, yep, we know. 731 00:30:31,653 --> 00:30:33,946 - Audio beacon is on. - TRAVIS: We need to let it go. 732 00:30:33,947 --> 00:30:35,280 The wind's kind of dying down-- it'd be 733 00:30:35,281 --> 00:30:36,908 a good time to let it... let it rip. 734 00:30:36,909 --> 00:30:38,952 I mean, it's gonna go like a rocket, right? 735 00:30:38,953 --> 00:30:41,455 - Yeah, it's gonna take off pretty quick. - Well, so we hopefully 736 00:30:41,456 --> 00:30:43,791 get it to go through the... you know, mile-high mark 737 00:30:43,792 --> 00:30:45,876 that we were calculating. 738 00:30:45,877 --> 00:30:47,295 I'm just hoping that it hits that 739 00:30:47,296 --> 00:30:48,964 before it gets too far to the west. 740 00:30:48,965 --> 00:30:50,382 - You know what I mean? - I hope so, too. 741 00:30:50,383 --> 00:30:52,635 - You got it, Matt? - Yeah, I got it. 742 00:30:52,636 --> 00:30:53,928 - Here we go. - We're clear. 743 00:30:53,929 --> 00:30:55,888 - Start easing it up. - (exclaims) 744 00:30:55,889 --> 00:30:58,392 Start letting it go, start letting it go. 745 00:30:58,393 --> 00:31:01,271 (steady beeping continues) 746 00:31:01,272 --> 00:31:03,023 Three, two, one. Let it launch. 747 00:31:04,942 --> 00:31:08,196 ♪ ♪ 748 00:31:09,239 --> 00:31:10,406 Look how fast it's going. 749 00:31:10,407 --> 00:31:11,825 Hey, I love how it's... 750 00:31:11,826 --> 00:31:14,327 It's going right through the spot, too. 751 00:31:14,328 --> 00:31:15,871 That is awesome. 752 00:31:15,872 --> 00:31:18,082 THOMAS: Oh, that is perfect! 753 00:31:18,083 --> 00:31:19,626 Right where it needs to be. 754 00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:23,005 TRAVIS: That couldn't have worked out better, 755 00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:25,007 - I don't think. - MATT: That's a good launch. 756 00:31:25,008 --> 00:31:27,552 I say we pack up and go back and try and track it 757 00:31:27,553 --> 00:31:30,305 - on the Internet. - MATT: Sounds good. THOMAS: Yep. 758 00:31:30,306 --> 00:31:32,934 ♪ ♪ 759 00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:43,654 TRAVIS: Now that we have T a successful launch, d 760 00:31:43,655 --> 00:31:45,281 we're going to go track the balloon 761 00:31:45,282 --> 00:31:46,700 from the command center. 762 00:31:46,701 --> 00:31:48,494 If this experiment is successful, 763 00:31:48,495 --> 00:31:49,786 it'll tell us exactly where 764 00:31:49,787 --> 00:31:51,121 these energy spikes are occurring, 765 00:31:51,122 --> 00:31:53,666 and hopefully, what's causing them. 766 00:31:53,667 --> 00:31:55,502 Are you tracking it already? 767 00:31:55,503 --> 00:31:58,130 Yeah. Yeah, come sit down and take a look. 768 00:31:58,131 --> 00:32:01,384 - Can you see okay? - Yeah, I can see good. 769 00:32:01,385 --> 00:32:03,386 MATT: What does it look like so far? 770 00:32:03,387 --> 00:32:06,891 Yeah, so, um, we've got a few good hits already. 771 00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:08,809 It looks like it's tracking off towards the east. 772 00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:10,937 How high is it right now? 773 00:32:10,938 --> 00:32:12,648 Um, it's giving us an altitude, 774 00:32:12,649 --> 00:32:14,650 well, above sea level, of 10,453. 775 00:32:14,651 --> 00:32:17,278 TRAVIS: Now, Skinwalker Ranch is already 776 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,197 at 5,000 feet above sea level. 777 00:32:19,198 --> 00:32:21,032 And the balloon we're tracking right now 778 00:32:21,033 --> 00:32:23,786 is approximately 5,500 above the ranch. 779 00:32:23,787 --> 00:32:25,788 That means its total elevation 780 00:32:25,789 --> 00:32:27,958 is about 10,500 feet. 781 00:32:27,959 --> 00:32:30,335 Now, that's pretty much exactly where we believe 782 00:32:30,336 --> 00:32:33,673 the RF energy above the property is coming from. 783 00:32:33,674 --> 00:32:35,508 Well, that is odd, though, 784 00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:37,719 because you'd think it gone more than that 785 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,846 in the time it took us to get out there and into here. 786 00:32:39,847 --> 00:32:42,809 - Yeah. - Well, it's-it's not... 787 00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:44,602 This is not updating. 788 00:32:44,603 --> 00:32:46,522 MATT: That's strange to me. 789 00:32:46,523 --> 00:32:48,524 That's supposed to update every minute. 790 00:32:48,525 --> 00:32:52,195 It seems to have stopped after the 10,000 foot above sea level. 791 00:32:52,196 --> 00:32:55,156 So, when was the last time that-that blip sent data? 792 00:32:55,157 --> 00:32:57,076 I mean, how long ago was that, Erik? 793 00:32:57,077 --> 00:32:58,786 - A few minutes ago? A minute ago? - Yeah. 794 00:32:58,787 --> 00:33:00,746 - It's been a lot more than a minute. - Okay. 795 00:33:00,747 --> 00:33:02,374 And that's-that's baffling to me. 796 00:33:02,375 --> 00:33:05,085 The sensor is rock-solid. Dude, I have flown this thing 797 00:33:05,086 --> 00:33:07,338 30 times, more than 30 times. 798 00:33:07,339 --> 00:33:08,965 It's never failed on me. 799 00:33:08,966 --> 00:33:12,094 So, I don't understand why it went out. 800 00:33:12,095 --> 00:33:14,054 I'm kind of worried about this balloon. 801 00:33:14,055 --> 00:33:16,098 I don't think we've ever had anything 802 00:33:16,099 --> 00:33:18,143 that we could not explain in the atmosphere. 803 00:33:18,144 --> 00:33:19,394 We can usually figure most things out 804 00:33:19,395 --> 00:33:20,604 if we have enough data. 805 00:33:20,605 --> 00:33:22,106 Roughly a mile, 806 00:33:22,107 --> 00:33:23,608 or you know, a little above a mile high, 807 00:33:23,609 --> 00:33:25,067 and it's lost, 808 00:33:25,068 --> 00:33:26,527 which I never thought would happen. 809 00:33:26,528 --> 00:33:28,405 So, what altitude did you say that was? 810 00:33:28,406 --> 00:33:31,701 Well, this is telling us 10,453 above sea level, so... 811 00:33:31,702 --> 00:33:34,245 - What's the altitude of our... - We're about 5,000 here. 812 00:33:34,246 --> 00:33:37,249 Okay. So it's about 5,500 feet. 813 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:38,667 - Right? - Yeah. 814 00:33:38,668 --> 00:33:40,294 - THOMAS: Well, that's interesting. - TRAVIS: Yeah, it is. 815 00:33:40,295 --> 00:33:42,505 MATT: So, somewhere, the sensor stopped working. 816 00:33:42,506 --> 00:33:45,258 That's right... right where we figure 817 00:33:45,259 --> 00:33:47,428 those, uh, field lines are crossing. 818 00:33:47,429 --> 00:33:49,263 That's right where the triangulation put it. 819 00:33:49,264 --> 00:33:51,432 Oh, wow. 820 00:33:51,433 --> 00:33:53,810 THOMAS: We did get it to ping 821 00:33:53,811 --> 00:33:55,771 as the balloon was going up. 822 00:33:55,772 --> 00:33:59,317 So, we know it was transponding and-and sending information. 823 00:33:59,318 --> 00:34:02,154 The last ping that we got showed the battery was good, 824 00:34:02,155 --> 00:34:05,699 the temperature was good, everything was functioning 825 00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:07,535 properly, and then, magically, 826 00:34:07,536 --> 00:34:09,746 it hits this 5,000-foot mark, 827 00:34:09,747 --> 00:34:12,166 and it's... gone. 828 00:34:12,167 --> 00:34:14,543 I've flown 30 of these balloons. 829 00:34:14,544 --> 00:34:16,838 I've dropped 'em, I've stepped on 'em, I've gotten 'em wet. 830 00:34:16,839 --> 00:34:18,840 They've flown through, you know, thunderstorms. 831 00:34:18,841 --> 00:34:21,468 - They go up to 100,000 feet. - Yeah, they're rock solid. 832 00:34:21,469 --> 00:34:23,346 There must have been something at 5,000 feet 833 00:34:23,347 --> 00:34:25,223 - that shut it off. - Something happened. 834 00:34:25,224 --> 00:34:27,267 TRAVIS: It's crazy that the point 835 00:34:27,268 --> 00:34:29,269 where we lost contact with the balloon 836 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:31,563 is at the exact same altitude we calculated 837 00:34:31,564 --> 00:34:33,733 the RF energy to be coming from. 838 00:34:33,734 --> 00:34:35,902 But where the heck did the balloon go? 839 00:34:35,903 --> 00:34:38,030 It's like it just disappeared. 840 00:34:38,031 --> 00:34:41,993 Why don't we look at the footage from the tethered test, 841 00:34:41,994 --> 00:34:44,204 and, uh, what I'd like to see is the meter. 842 00:34:44,205 --> 00:34:46,373 - Oh. - So we can kind of see what it's doing. 843 00:34:46,374 --> 00:34:47,835 Easy enough. 844 00:34:49,336 --> 00:34:51,379 - (beep) - THOMAS: Whoa! 845 00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:54,299 - Look at that. Look at that. - Oh, wow! 846 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,385 - Wow. - TRAVIS: Wow. So we're getting 847 00:34:56,386 --> 00:34:59,556 about .3 milliwatts per meter squared. 848 00:34:59,557 --> 00:35:00,932 Thought I saw it spike at five. 849 00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:02,601 I thought I... I thought I did, too. 850 00:35:02,602 --> 00:35:05,479 That's like standing by a microwave that's on. 851 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,649 So, this isn't someone just sending a Wi-Fi signal 852 00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:09,359 back and forth or anything like that? 853 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,736 It can't be at that altitude 854 00:35:10,737 --> 00:35:12,113 with these types of spikes, right? 855 00:35:12,114 --> 00:35:13,865 - Okay. - SEGALA: So one of the things 856 00:35:13,866 --> 00:35:17,661 that really jumps out at me is that you can tell if 857 00:35:17,662 --> 00:35:19,580 a frequency or RF energy 858 00:35:19,581 --> 00:35:22,250 comes from the ground, as most do, 859 00:35:22,251 --> 00:35:24,586 because it will actually fall off as you go up. 860 00:35:24,587 --> 00:35:27,173 So, in order to create something up there, 861 00:35:27,174 --> 00:35:30,634 you have to have an antenna up there to create the energy. 862 00:35:30,635 --> 00:35:32,679 So, what's disturbing is that 863 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,223 it has to come from something off-planet. 864 00:35:35,224 --> 00:35:37,143 It's not something 865 00:35:37,144 --> 00:35:40,397 that humans have created on the face of the earth. 866 00:35:41,482 --> 00:35:43,859 That's crazy. 867 00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:45,819 Yeah. 868 00:35:45,820 --> 00:35:48,448 So the interpretation of this is there's something 869 00:35:48,449 --> 00:35:50,533 above us sending signals down. 870 00:35:50,534 --> 00:35:52,453 I mean, yeah, it's coming from above. 871 00:35:52,454 --> 00:35:54,038 - It's coming from off-planet, right. - Yeah. 872 00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:57,293 That is what the data is suggesting. 873 00:35:58,503 --> 00:36:00,295 A lot of this is not adding up. 874 00:36:00,296 --> 00:36:02,632 - ERIK: Right. - THOMAS: So I am sitting in a room 875 00:36:02,633 --> 00:36:04,425 full of baffled scientists then? 876 00:36:04,426 --> 00:36:06,135 Uh, that sounds about right. 877 00:36:06,136 --> 00:36:07,971 - Yeah. - TRAVIS: There's no 878 00:36:07,972 --> 00:36:10,808 known asset that's just sitting right over the ranch. 879 00:36:10,809 --> 00:36:13,019 - Yeah. - TRAVIS: So, uh, I'm thinking about 880 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:15,605 us building a rocket, 'cause we can put sensors 881 00:36:15,606 --> 00:36:18,984 on the rocket, measure things as it passes through that spot. 882 00:36:18,985 --> 00:36:22,280 - Maybe this will help us figure that out. - Right. 883 00:36:22,281 --> 00:36:23,990 TRAVIS: Man, I appreciate you coming out, man. 884 00:36:23,991 --> 00:36:25,409 MATT: I'm glad that I could help. 885 00:36:32,752 --> 00:36:34,586 TRAVIS: While the team and I are waiting 886 00:36:34,587 --> 00:36:36,255 for our rocket equipment to arrive, 887 00:36:36,256 --> 00:36:37,632 Thomas Winterton invited me to come with him 888 00:36:37,633 --> 00:36:39,300 over to Homestead One. 889 00:36:39,301 --> 00:36:40,760 THOMAS: We'll see what we can see, yeah? 890 00:36:40,761 --> 00:36:42,263 All right, let's grab the stuff out. 891 00:36:42,264 --> 00:36:44,140 Now, Homestead One is the homestead 892 00:36:44,141 --> 00:36:45,975 nearest the command center, and it's where 893 00:36:45,976 --> 00:36:48,937 the two caretakers, Kandus and her boyfriend Tom, live. 894 00:36:48,938 --> 00:36:50,856 They've only been staying here on the ranch 895 00:36:50,857 --> 00:36:52,775 for a few weeks, and according to Thomas, 896 00:36:52,776 --> 00:36:54,152 they've already been hearing strange sounds 897 00:36:54,153 --> 00:36:55,611 coming from the basement. 898 00:36:55,612 --> 00:36:57,781 So I'm really curious to see 899 00:36:57,782 --> 00:37:00,534 if what's happening in the house could have any connection 900 00:37:00,535 --> 00:37:02,495 to what we've been experiencing recently 901 00:37:02,496 --> 00:37:03,997 in other places on the ranch. 902 00:37:03,998 --> 00:37:05,790 - Well, hello. - Hey, there. 903 00:37:05,791 --> 00:37:07,501 Come on in. What's going on? 904 00:37:07,502 --> 00:37:09,128 - Hey, hey. - We're gonna see if we can have a... 905 00:37:09,129 --> 00:37:10,546 We want to look down in that thing in your basement. 906 00:37:10,547 --> 00:37:11,964 - Oh, ho. - There's a special camera. 907 00:37:11,965 --> 00:37:13,341 - TOM: Oh, you got a camera? - Okay. 908 00:37:13,342 --> 00:37:14,802 - TRAVIS: Yeah. - TOM: Nice. 909 00:37:16,846 --> 00:37:19,432 THOMAS: The ranch house has had three generations of ownership 910 00:37:19,433 --> 00:37:21,435 before Brandon took possession of it. 911 00:37:23,897 --> 00:37:25,480 Starting with the Meyers, 912 00:37:25,481 --> 00:37:28,693 who reported strange sounds, rumblings. 913 00:37:28,694 --> 00:37:31,321 And when the Shermans took possession of it 914 00:37:31,322 --> 00:37:34,116 from the Meyers, there were locks on everything 915 00:37:34,117 --> 00:37:37,244 from the cabinet doors to the closets. 916 00:37:37,245 --> 00:37:39,039 They started reporting 917 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,708 groceries coming out of the cabinets, 918 00:37:41,709 --> 00:37:44,212 farm equipment ending up in the trees, 919 00:37:44,213 --> 00:37:47,841 all types of weird anomalies that 920 00:37:47,842 --> 00:37:49,509 were pretty scary. 921 00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:51,929 All right, if we just head down, then? 922 00:37:51,930 --> 00:37:54,724 KANDUS: Yeah, you go-go ahead. 923 00:37:54,725 --> 00:37:57,352 - TOM: Yeah, watch your head there. - KANDUS: Yup. 924 00:37:57,353 --> 00:37:59,480 THOMAS: Two weeks ago, 925 00:37:59,481 --> 00:38:01,273 Tom and Kandus reported strange noises 926 00:38:01,274 --> 00:38:03,026 coming from the basement. 927 00:38:03,027 --> 00:38:05,403 I was able to punch a small hole through the wall, 928 00:38:05,404 --> 00:38:08,783 and we discovered that there was possibly a room there. 929 00:38:08,784 --> 00:38:10,243 So there's a room in there? 930 00:38:10,244 --> 00:38:11,702 TOM: There's a room in there. 931 00:38:11,703 --> 00:38:14,414 But it goes back quite a ways. 932 00:38:14,415 --> 00:38:16,083 Now the interesting thing about it is, 933 00:38:16,084 --> 00:38:18,962 as far we can tell, we can't see any pipes coming in or out, 934 00:38:18,963 --> 00:38:21,130 and there's no access to it. That's the... 935 00:38:21,131 --> 00:38:22,590 That's the weird thing is 936 00:38:22,591 --> 00:38:23,926 I don't know why you'd have a concrete box 937 00:38:23,927 --> 00:38:26,428 - Completely walled off. - with no access. 938 00:38:26,429 --> 00:38:29,099 Uh, it's-it's weird, man. I don't know what... 939 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,767 - It's just out of place. - Yeah. 940 00:38:30,768 --> 00:38:31,893 - You know? - Well, let's get in there. 941 00:38:31,894 --> 00:38:33,020 TRAVIS: Let's get this thing hooked up 942 00:38:33,021 --> 00:38:34,939 and take a look. 943 00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:36,941 A room that's completely closed off 944 00:38:36,942 --> 00:38:39,319 in the basement with no doors, and no doors 945 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,488 being prepared to be built on it or maybe, 946 00:38:41,489 --> 00:38:44,117 there was never any intent to put a door on it-- 947 00:38:44,118 --> 00:38:45,785 it's horror movie stuff. 948 00:38:45,786 --> 00:38:47,955 Is this gonna fit through that hole? 949 00:38:47,956 --> 00:38:49,581 THOMAS: I'm pretty sure it will. 950 00:38:49,582 --> 00:38:52,459 - If not, we'll make it bigger. - All right. 951 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:53,920 Yeah, I mean, everything's connected 952 00:38:53,921 --> 00:38:55,630 the way it's supposed to be. 953 00:38:55,631 --> 00:38:58,342 - All right, there we go. - THOMAS: Got it? 954 00:38:58,343 --> 00:38:59,635 Does that seem like it's gonna stay? 955 00:38:59,636 --> 00:39:00,970 Yeah, I think... I think it will. 956 00:39:00,971 --> 00:39:02,180 - Okay. - All right. 957 00:39:08,897 --> 00:39:11,774 - THOMAS: We're in. - KANDUS: Oh, wow. - TOM: Cool. 958 00:39:11,775 --> 00:39:13,986 - It's bone-dry in there. - Mm. 959 00:39:13,987 --> 00:39:15,779 TRAVIS: So, it means it's not leaking, 960 00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:19,659 or there's no external entrances to it. 961 00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:22,412 TOM: So it looks square, doesn't it? 962 00:39:22,413 --> 00:39:25,124 THOMAS: Yeah, definitely square. 963 00:39:25,125 --> 00:39:26,792 Well, look how thick that concrete is. 964 00:39:26,793 --> 00:39:28,462 I mean, that tells you just how strong it is. 965 00:39:28,463 --> 00:39:29,963 TRAVIS: That's heavy duty, something. 966 00:39:29,964 --> 00:39:32,382 You know, that's-that's a foot thick on top. 967 00:39:32,383 --> 00:39:34,635 I'm gonna try 968 00:39:34,636 --> 00:39:36,304 to angle this down a little bit and just check along this wall. 969 00:39:36,305 --> 00:39:38,099 - TRAVIS: That's a good idea. That's a real good idea. - KANDUS: Mm. 970 00:39:40,852 --> 00:39:42,394 TRAVIS: Oh, what is that? 971 00:39:42,395 --> 00:39:44,773 Is that a drain? 972 00:39:44,774 --> 00:39:46,524 What is that? 973 00:39:46,525 --> 00:39:49,321 TRAVIS: Go all the way down to it if you can. 974 00:39:51,198 --> 00:39:53,700 - What is that? - KANDUS: What is that? - It looks like rubble 975 00:39:53,701 --> 00:39:55,535 - to me. - It does. - Yeah, it's rubble, 976 00:39:55,536 --> 00:39:57,871 but where... rubble from what? 977 00:39:57,872 --> 00:39:59,999 THOMAS: I wonder, when I drilled this, 978 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,919 if it didn't beat it in, and it popped in there. 979 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,672 KANDUS: That looks like way more material 980 00:40:05,673 --> 00:40:07,216 - that would have come out of that hole. - That's way more material 981 00:40:07,217 --> 00:40:08,218 than that hole. 982 00:40:08,219 --> 00:40:11,764 See, go a little bit lower if you can. 983 00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,102 Oh, slow down, slow down, slow down. 984 00:40:17,562 --> 00:40:20,524 That looks like kindling or something. 985 00:40:20,525 --> 00:40:22,943 THOMAS: I don't know what 986 00:40:22,944 --> 00:40:24,278 the black stuff is. That is really weird. 987 00:40:24,279 --> 00:40:25,571 KANDUS: It looks like charcoal. 988 00:40:25,572 --> 00:40:27,532 It... it might be ash. 989 00:40:27,533 --> 00:40:30,411 It looks ashy and black flecks and charcoal. 990 00:40:30,412 --> 00:40:33,957 It sure does. It looks like there's been a fire in there. 991 00:40:33,958 --> 00:40:35,834 TOM: It does. 992 00:40:35,835 --> 00:40:39,256 That's-that's a little creepy right there. 993 00:40:41,675 --> 00:40:44,052 TRAVIS: Right in the bottom, 994 00:40:44,053 --> 00:40:46,930 there's a pile about the size, of, say, a volleyball, 995 00:40:46,931 --> 00:40:49,434 and it looked like ash, 996 00:40:49,435 --> 00:40:51,060 but how did it get in there, 997 00:40:51,061 --> 00:40:53,104 and what's the purpose of it being there? 998 00:40:53,105 --> 00:40:55,566 It makes no sense what this is. 999 00:40:55,567 --> 00:40:57,943 How could you build a fire in there without suffocating? 1000 00:40:57,944 --> 00:40:59,696 THOMAS: Why would you? 1001 00:40:59,697 --> 00:41:01,614 - TRAVIS: I mean, is it an oven? - KANDUS: Well, yeah, almost 1002 00:41:01,615 --> 00:41:03,869 - looks like a cremation. - THOMAS: So it looks like ash, huh? 1003 00:41:07,038 --> 00:41:08,416 TRAVIS: Hey, hold on a minute. 1004 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,003 What are those white pieces right there? 1005 00:41:13,004 --> 00:41:14,630 THOMAS: I'm wondering if that's... 1006 00:41:14,631 --> 00:41:16,341 - It looks a lot like bones. - KANDUS: Is that even bone? 1007 00:41:17,468 --> 00:41:18,802 TRAVIS: Bones? 1008 00:41:18,803 --> 00:41:20,805 What in the world? 1009 00:41:24,643 --> 00:41:26,269 TRAVIS: We need to see what's really in there. 1010 00:41:26,270 --> 00:41:28,271 - What is that? - ERIK: It could be human remains. 1011 00:41:28,272 --> 00:41:30,149 THOMAS: We have a couple trucks bringing cattle. 1012 00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:32,776 Each cow we bring on is another biosensor. 1013 00:41:32,777 --> 00:41:34,738 TRAVIS: There's some signal coming from space. 1014 00:41:34,739 --> 00:41:36,656 - Inserting safety key. - Ignition. 1015 00:41:36,657 --> 00:41:39,160 So we're gonna use rockets and see what's going on up there. 1016 00:41:39,161 --> 00:41:42,497 - What the heck's up with the cows? - (loud lowing) 1017 00:41:42,498 --> 00:41:44,166 - THOMAS: Look, look, look! - BRYANT: What is that? 1018 00:41:44,167 --> 00:41:45,292 - What is that? - KAITLIN: What is that? 1019 00:41:45,293 --> 00:41:46,793 THOMAS: It's gone. Did you see it? 1020 00:41:46,794 --> 00:41:48,045 TRAVIS: It's gone. Yes, I saw it! It's gone. 1021 00:41:48,046 --> 00:41:50,882 BRANDON: I think that's historic. 1022 00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:52,510 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 80887

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