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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,067 --> 00:00:14,267 >> In California, the worst measles outbreak 2 00:00:14,267 --> 00:00:16,067 in 15 years is spreading. 3 00:00:16,067 --> 00:00:19,033 >> The virus is roaring back into the headlines tonight. 4 00:00:19,033 --> 00:00:21,200 An outbreak, somehow traced to-- 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,933 >> Someone who had probably caught measles abroad visited 6 00:00:23,933 --> 00:00:26,267 Disneyland and may have sneezed. 7 00:00:26,267 --> 00:00:28,567 >> Measles on the march in America. 8 00:00:28,567 --> 00:00:30,700 >> This outbreak is showing no signs of letting 9 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:33,300 up there are already more cases this year than there were... 10 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:34,533 >> The number tripled 11 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:38,800 to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states. 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,000 >> I mean, is this all 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,900 basically because of the anti-vaccination movement? 14 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:44,433 Because parents aren't vaccinating their kids? 15 00:00:44,433 --> 00:00:46,200 >> Yeah, you know, I think so. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,267 >> A bill that would ban exemptions 17 00:00:48,267 --> 00:00:50,333 from childhood vaccines is advancing 18 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:52,200 through the California legislature. 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,567 >> We are offering legislation 20 00:00:53,567 --> 00:00:55,467 that will abolish the personal belief exemption. 21 00:00:55,467 --> 00:00:57,067 >> I think you're starting to see why it is 22 00:00:57,067 --> 00:00:58,467 that mandates are so important. 23 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:00,367 >> There has been some inaccurate information 24 00:01:00,367 --> 00:01:03,267 circulating about vaccines, mostly stemming 25 00:01:03,267 --> 00:01:06,100 from a British study linking vaccines to autism. 26 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:08,633 >> Still continued here, the vaccine caused autism, 27 00:01:08,633 --> 00:01:10,167 even though that has been debunked. 28 00:01:10,167 --> 00:01:12,567 >> Repeatedly and thoroughly debunked. 29 00:01:12,567 --> 00:01:14,933 >> You may have heard vaccination causes autism 30 00:01:14,933 --> 00:01:17,533 in one out of 110 children. 31 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:18,333 Fuck that. 32 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:19,333 Total bullshit. 33 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:20,700 It doesn't. 34 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:22,933 >> The bill requiring children to be vaccinated has passed 35 00:01:22,933 --> 00:01:24,600 with bipartisan support. 36 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,500 Every child must meet immunization standards 37 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:30,833 before joining public schools, private schools and daycares. 38 00:01:30,833 --> 00:01:34,333 >> I would strongly encourage everybody, look at the science, 39 00:01:34,333 --> 00:01:37,300 look at the facts, CDC, the Center for Disease Control, 40 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:39,233 can give you good information. 41 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:41,067 Get your children vaccinated. 42 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:50,567 [ Music ] 43 00:02:55,500 --> 00:03:03,067 [ Buzzing Sound ] 44 00:03:03,067 --> 00:03:04,167 >> Hello? 45 00:03:04,167 --> 00:03:06,367 >> I was sitting at my desk where I teach 46 00:03:06,367 --> 00:03:07,767 at Simpson University. 47 00:03:07,767 --> 00:03:08,567 My phone rings. 48 00:03:08,567 --> 00:03:10,833 It's Dr. William Thompson. 49 00:03:10,833 --> 00:03:13,467 >> Brian, you and I don't know each other very well. 50 00:03:13,467 --> 00:03:17,533 I don't know how this is all going to play out. 51 00:03:17,533 --> 00:03:22,267 You have a son with autism, and I have great shame now, 52 00:03:22,267 --> 00:03:25,533 when I meet families with kids with autism. 53 00:03:25,533 --> 00:03:30,067 Because I have been part of the problem. 54 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,967 >> My son Steven was born in February of 1998. 55 00:03:36,967 --> 00:03:39,200 Steve, what does the cow say? 56 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,833 >> Moo. 57 00:03:39,833 --> 00:03:40,767 >> Tweet, tweet. 58 00:03:40,767 --> 00:03:42,400 >> Tweet! 59 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:42,833 >> Doggie. 60 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:44,600 >> Yeah. 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,467 >> Two weeks after his 15 month vaccines, he lost all language. 62 00:03:49,467 --> 00:03:51,833 He lost all eye contact. 63 00:03:51,833 --> 00:03:55,500 We pick him up and he would just hang limp. 64 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:58,433 This is a time where CDC was just starting 65 00:03:58,433 --> 00:04:02,067 to do these studies on vaccines and autism. 66 00:04:02,067 --> 00:04:05,567 As a scientist, I have over 60 technical 67 00:04:05,567 --> 00:04:07,633 and scientific publications 68 00:04:07,633 --> 00:04:11,300 in major international scientific journals, 69 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:13,733 and I was contacting the CDC 70 00:04:13,733 --> 00:04:16,800 and was deeply critical of their studies. 71 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,833 And so the CDC decided that the scientist who was going 72 00:04:19,833 --> 00:04:24,300 to interface with me at that time was Dr. William Thompson. 73 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:26,200 Because I was on his back, because he didn't 74 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,467 like what I was saying about the statistics, I received a letter 75 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:33,700 from a CDC attorney in 2004 saying 76 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:39,067 that I was no longer permitted to contact the CDC. 77 00:04:39,067 --> 00:04:44,467 Fast forwarding to 2014, Thompson said to me, 78 00:04:44,467 --> 00:04:50,433 "Brian if you listen to me, and if you do what I tell you to do, 79 00:04:50,433 --> 00:04:53,833 I can guarantee you will be able to access a treasure trove 80 00:04:53,833 --> 00:04:58,067 of data, and I would like to guide you through these steps. 81 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:09,200 >> So I wanted to be a resource, I wanted to be valuable to you. 82 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,067 I want you to have someone in the system... 83 00:05:13,067 --> 00:05:17,667 >> For years, I had been trying 84 00:05:17,667 --> 00:05:20,567 to crack this edifice of the CDC. 85 00:05:20,567 --> 00:05:25,767 And just getting little glimpses of what was not right. 86 00:05:25,767 --> 00:05:29,833 >> The CDC has put the research 10 years behind. 87 00:05:29,833 --> 00:05:34,133 Because the CDC has not been transparent, 88 00:05:34,133 --> 00:05:38,433 we've missed 10 years of research because the CDC 89 00:05:38,433 --> 00:05:45,067 is so paralyzed right now by anything related to autism. 90 00:05:47,067 --> 00:05:50,233 >> I am a licensed clinical psychologist 91 00:05:50,233 --> 00:05:52,867 and a board certified behavior analyst. 92 00:05:52,867 --> 00:05:58,167 In 1978, I want to say the prevalence of autism was 93 00:05:58,167 --> 00:06:01,200 about 1 in 15,000 children. 94 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,233 It was a very rare disorder. 95 00:06:03,233 --> 00:06:06,333 I was working at a clinic at UCLA, 96 00:06:06,333 --> 00:06:09,267 which was pretty much the only known center 97 00:06:09,267 --> 00:06:12,133 for treating children with autism, and we had maybe 6 98 00:06:12,133 --> 00:06:14,833 to 10 children we were working with. 99 00:06:14,833 --> 00:06:19,100 Somewhere around the early 90s, shortly after I opened card, 100 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:24,267 the growth of autism has been so high and so rapid 101 00:06:24,267 --> 00:06:27,767 that I've never felt like I could ever catch up anymore. 102 00:06:27,767 --> 00:06:31,100 From an official diagnostic perspective, 103 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:33,600 the way that we define autism, we were looking 104 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,167 at deficits in two areas. 105 00:06:36,167 --> 00:06:38,633 The first is social communication 106 00:06:38,633 --> 00:06:40,667 and social interaction. 107 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:45,533 And in that area we require three specific symptoms 108 00:06:45,533 --> 00:06:46,733 to be present. 109 00:06:46,733 --> 00:06:50,800 Symptoms such as no social emotional reciprocity. 110 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,333 No nonverbal communication. 111 00:06:53,333 --> 00:06:55,533 That means eye contact, for instance. 112 00:06:55,533 --> 00:06:58,100 Or no development of relationships. 113 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:03,267 The second required area of deficit is the presence 114 00:07:03,267 --> 00:07:07,533 of stereotypic repetitive restricted behaviors. 115 00:07:07,533 --> 00:07:11,700 And these are things like hand flapping, body rocking, 116 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:15,800 insistence on routines being the same. 117 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,467 One of the new additions is the presence 118 00:07:19,467 --> 00:07:22,133 of a sensory dysregulation. 119 00:07:22,133 --> 00:07:26,500 If a child has an inability to sense things correctly, 120 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:29,367 not necessarily hearing things the way we do, 121 00:07:29,367 --> 00:07:33,800 that could be classified as a symptom of autism. 122 00:07:35,567 --> 00:07:38,900 So you have five symptoms, two in the area 123 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:41,500 of repetitive behaviors, and three in the area 124 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:43,533 of social communication deficit, 125 00:07:43,533 --> 00:07:45,433 then you will get a classification 126 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:50,067 of what is called autism spectrum disorder, ASD. 127 00:07:52,967 --> 00:07:55,433 >> We begin though, as always, keeping them honest. 128 00:07:55,433 --> 00:07:57,133 Breaking news tonight, just hours ago, 129 00:07:57,133 --> 00:07:59,233 the British Medical Journal, the BMJ, 130 00:07:59,233 --> 00:08:02,233 did something extremely rare for a scientific journal. 131 00:08:02,233 --> 00:08:05,700 It accused a researcher, Andrew Wakefield, of outright fraud. 132 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:08,767 >> I got a call on the 19th of May 1995 133 00:08:08,767 --> 00:08:11,733 from a mother telling me the story of her child, 134 00:08:11,733 --> 00:08:15,267 his regression into autism following a vaccine, 135 00:08:15,267 --> 00:08:17,833 and I said "How can I help you? 136 00:08:17,833 --> 00:08:19,067 I know nothing about autism. 137 00:08:19,067 --> 00:08:21,333 You've come through the wrong number." 138 00:08:21,333 --> 00:08:22,600 And she said, "No, doctor, 139 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,367 my child has terrible gastrointestinal issues, 140 00:08:25,367 --> 00:08:27,800 and no one will take them seriously." 141 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,600 I was an academic gastroenterologist doing 142 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,433 research with a particular interest in Crohn's disease, 143 00:08:34,433 --> 00:08:37,500 ulcerative colitis, inflammatory bowel disease. 144 00:08:37,500 --> 00:08:39,333 I knew nothing whatsoever about autism. 145 00:08:39,333 --> 00:08:40,567 When I was at medical school it was 146 00:08:40,567 --> 00:08:44,233 so rare we weren't taught about it. 147 00:08:44,233 --> 00:08:47,233 We heard a succession of stories which were very, very similar. 148 00:08:47,233 --> 00:08:49,867 Medicine is about pattern recognition, 149 00:08:49,867 --> 00:08:52,600 and there was a clear pattern emerging. 150 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,133 So we decided, a group of us, 151 00:08:55,133 --> 00:08:59,467 including the world's leading pediatric gastroenterologist 152 00:08:59,467 --> 00:09:02,267 at the time, led by professor John Walker Smith, 153 00:09:02,267 --> 00:09:06,067 decided that these children merited thorough investigation. 154 00:09:06,067 --> 00:09:08,333 >> Well Dr. Wakefield has been shown 155 00:09:08,333 --> 00:09:12,167 to use absolutely fraudulent data, created a fake paper, 156 00:09:12,167 --> 00:09:14,333 the journal allowed it to run. 157 00:09:14,333 --> 00:09:15,967 All the other studies were done, 158 00:09:15,967 --> 00:09:19,733 showed no connection whatsoever again and again and again, 159 00:09:19,733 --> 00:09:24,067 so it's an absolute lie that has killed thousands of kids. 160 00:09:24,067 --> 00:09:25,333 >> What we discovered and reported 161 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:28,433 for the first time was this link between what appeared 162 00:09:28,433 --> 00:09:32,133 to be a novel type of intestinal inflammation, 163 00:09:32,133 --> 00:09:33,500 and autistic regression 164 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:36,733 in previously developmentally normal children. 165 00:09:36,733 --> 00:09:40,067 And among those, the majority had regressed 166 00:09:40,067 --> 00:09:43,933 into autism according to their parents following the measles, 167 00:09:43,933 --> 00:09:46,133 mumps, rubella vaccine. 168 00:09:46,133 --> 00:09:48,733 It wasn't our place to censor that story, 169 00:09:48,733 --> 00:09:51,300 because it may be uncomfortable for public health. 170 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:54,433 Our job was to report that story accurately, 171 00:09:54,433 --> 00:09:57,233 in order that it might lead to further investigation 172 00:09:57,233 --> 00:10:00,200 and the paper explicitly said, 173 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,333 this paper does not prove an association between MMR vaccine 174 00:10:05,333 --> 00:10:07,267 and the syndrome described. 175 00:10:07,267 --> 00:10:10,033 More work is needed to resolve this issue. 176 00:10:10,033 --> 00:10:12,933 That was the conclusion of the paper. 177 00:10:12,933 --> 00:10:14,900 >> As an investigative medical journalist, 178 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:16,867 I've spent the last 7 years working on one 179 00:10:16,867 --> 00:10:19,400 of the best medical talk shows in the world. 180 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,100 We know in medicine that there have been many, 181 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:25,167 many studies proving that vaccines do not cause autism. 182 00:10:25,167 --> 00:10:28,867 But the problem I have always had with that is that thousands 183 00:10:28,867 --> 00:10:32,667 and thousands of parents all telling the same story. 184 00:10:32,667 --> 00:10:34,200 My child got a vaccine. 185 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,767 Usually the MMR vaccine. 186 00:10:35,767 --> 00:10:38,233 And then that night or the next day broke 187 00:10:38,233 --> 00:10:40,400 out in a fever [baby crying] and then when they came 188 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,567 out of the fever, lost speech [baby crying], lost the ability 189 00:10:42,567 --> 00:10:46,267 to walk, basically regressed into what we know 190 00:10:46,267 --> 00:10:48,767 as autism, and never came back. 191 00:10:48,767 --> 00:10:51,967 Doctors used to be told to listen to their patient. 192 00:10:51,967 --> 00:10:54,633 That was the cornerstone of medicine as we know it. 193 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:56,300 But something has changed recently 194 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:58,500 where the patient doesn't know what they're talking about, 195 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:01,267 and these parents, with their story of their children, 196 00:11:01,267 --> 00:11:02,700 have just been written off 197 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:04,567 as if they have no idea what is really going 198 00:11:04,567 --> 00:11:05,333 on with their child. 199 00:11:05,333 --> 00:11:07,567 I have two kids. 200 00:11:07,567 --> 00:11:09,433 And anyone that has children knows 201 00:11:09,433 --> 00:11:13,567 that when we first have babies, we are overly sensitive 202 00:11:13,567 --> 00:11:17,400 to every little hiccup, every cough, every sniffle. 203 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,933 So to say that a parent was just unaware 204 00:11:19,933 --> 00:11:21,967 that their child had issues, 205 00:11:21,967 --> 00:11:24,567 and suddenly they realized one year later 206 00:11:24,567 --> 00:11:27,600 that oh they have autism, that doesn't make sense to me. 207 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,967 And so I wanted to look into this story and find 208 00:11:29,967 --> 00:11:33,467 out what is this disconnect between medicine, 209 00:11:33,467 --> 00:11:37,067 science, and real parents? 210 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:43,633 >> I couldn't wait to be a mom. 211 00:11:43,633 --> 00:11:46,733 I remembered specifically, before we even got married, 212 00:11:46,733 --> 00:11:49,667 talking about how important children would be in our lives. 213 00:11:49,667 --> 00:11:53,267 >> I wanted a daughter first, and I wanted a son, 214 00:11:53,267 --> 00:11:55,333 and we were planning on having four children. 215 00:11:55,333 --> 00:11:57,733 >> We were going to be the most perfect parents 216 00:11:57,733 --> 00:11:59,067 that we could be. 217 00:11:59,067 --> 00:12:04,433 >> Bella was born, and that was a wonderful experience. 218 00:12:04,433 --> 00:12:06,933 >> Bella was just this angelic, perfect child, 219 00:12:06,933 --> 00:12:09,600 she hit all her milestones. 220 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,433 I got pregnant with Billy quite quickly. 221 00:12:14,733 --> 00:12:16,467 Bella, say hello to Billy. 222 00:12:16,467 --> 00:12:17,767 >> Hello. 223 00:12:17,767 --> 00:12:19,733 >> We've now got a beautiful girl and a beautiful boy, 224 00:12:19,733 --> 00:12:21,333 and life was just amazing. 225 00:12:21,333 --> 00:12:25,333 So at 2, 4 and 6 months, Billy had his normal baby vaccines. 226 00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:28,200 A little bit sniffly, chesty-coldy, 227 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,233 after the last one, so me-- 228 00:12:30,233 --> 00:12:33,200 in my perfect mother mode, rushed to the doctor. 229 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,067 You know, is he okay? 230 00:12:34,067 --> 00:12:35,067 Do I need to give him anything? 231 00:12:35,067 --> 00:12:36,933 Yes, you need to give him antibiotics, 232 00:12:36,933 --> 00:12:40,267 just to make sure there is not an infection in there. 233 00:12:40,267 --> 00:12:41,600 It didn't clear up. 234 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,200 Brought him back to the doctor, had even more antibiotics, 235 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,733 let's just keep this going in him. 236 00:12:45,733 --> 00:12:47,767 And I remember my mother calling up, 237 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:49,900 my mother is a homeopathic hippie, 238 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:50,933 and called up saying what are you doing? 239 00:12:50,933 --> 00:12:53,133 In chucking those antibiotics 240 00:12:53,133 --> 00:12:54,867 down your son's throat-- for what? 241 00:12:54,867 --> 00:12:57,067 And I'm saying to her mum, with all due respect, 242 00:12:57,067 --> 00:12:59,733 you're an artist, and they're doctors, so they know best. 243 00:12:59,733 --> 00:13:03,667 He was due his MMR vaccination at 12 months. 244 00:13:03,667 --> 00:13:07,500 So the morning, exactly to the day, my friend, she said to me, 245 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:09,800 "Listen, I've heard that there may be a problem 246 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,633 with this vaccine you're about to take Billy in for, the MMR." 247 00:13:12,633 --> 00:13:14,233 I said "Are you crazy? 248 00:13:14,233 --> 00:13:16,233 What is the matter with you? 249 00:13:16,233 --> 00:13:18,400 If there was a problem with the vaccination it would be 250 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,100 headline news. 251 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:21,500 The doctor would be calling me 252 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:25,167 up saying do not bother coming in, this is not a safe vaccine. 253 00:13:25,167 --> 00:13:26,500 None of that is happening. 254 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:27,600 You're being negative. 255 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,067 You're being careless, and you're listening 256 00:13:29,067 --> 00:13:31,833 to what some rumor that you heard somewhere, 257 00:13:31,833 --> 00:13:34,233 Billy could become deaf if I don't take him 258 00:13:34,233 --> 00:13:36,767 in now and get him this MMR. 259 00:13:39,067 --> 00:13:41,500 >> You know, most of the evidence linking measles 260 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:44,400 with autism has kind of settled down, and most doctors 261 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,400 and scientists agree that it probably isn't the major cause. 262 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,400 >> I've been working in pediatrics for almost 20 years. 263 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,767 I think most pediatricians view vaccines 264 00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:58,667 as they are the number one thing they do for kids. 265 00:13:58,667 --> 00:14:01,533 >> Okay there we go. 266 00:14:01,533 --> 00:14:03,300 >> High-five. 267 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:04,067 All right. 268 00:14:04,067 --> 00:14:05,267 That was really good. 269 00:14:05,267 --> 00:14:08,967 >> I'm young enough to not remember the days of kids 270 00:14:08,967 --> 00:14:12,400 in an iron lung, because they were battling polio. 271 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,433 You know, polio has essentially been eradicated 272 00:14:14,433 --> 00:14:15,600 from this country. 273 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,933 In 98 the Wakefield study had come out, 274 00:14:18,933 --> 00:14:20,367 my son had just been born. 275 00:14:20,367 --> 00:14:24,133 That study kind of pointed a finger at the MMR. 276 00:14:24,133 --> 00:14:28,800 As a parent, I was scared to give the MMR to my son, 277 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,067 and as a matter of fact, we-- I didn't give it to him on time. 278 00:14:33,067 --> 00:14:34,300 Because I wanted to see. 279 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:39,067 I wanted to see what additional studies would show. 280 00:14:39,067 --> 00:14:41,433 And over time, additional studies did show 281 00:14:41,433 --> 00:14:43,733 that no, it's safe. 282 00:14:43,733 --> 00:14:45,667 So he did get the vaccine. 283 00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:48,533 You know, if everybody stopped vaccinating, 284 00:14:49,833 --> 00:14:53,500 we would be going back to the dark ages. 285 00:14:53,500 --> 00:15:02,567 [ Music ] 286 00:15:04,067 --> 00:15:07,667 >> When a CDC scientist, who had been there, at that time, 287 00:15:07,667 --> 00:15:12,600 17 years, tells you this is how you access data, 288 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,067 it didn't take me very long to realize oh, 289 00:15:15,067 --> 00:15:17,067 I'd better do what he says. 290 00:15:17,067 --> 00:15:19,200 Because he knows what he's talking about. 291 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,667 >> I just want to tell you one thing. 292 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:23,867 Right now, I'm sitting at a very pretty position in terms 293 00:15:23,867 --> 00:15:25,700 of providing you a lot of information. 294 00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:28,500 >> He asked me what data sets are you going to request? 295 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:30,600 And I said, well I'm going to request two of the studies 296 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,300 that you've done on Thimerosal, 297 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:35,467 the mercury-containing preservative that is used 298 00:15:35,467 --> 00:15:36,967 in some of the vaccines. 299 00:15:36,967 --> 00:15:39,467 And he said well that's fine, but I want you 300 00:15:39,467 --> 00:15:43,367 to request the MMR data set first, and this is the study 301 00:15:43,367 --> 00:15:46,633 by Frank DeStefano and his colleagues in 2004. 302 00:15:46,633 --> 00:15:49,733 >> It was the one study where we could end 303 00:15:49,733 --> 00:15:53,633 up creating a mess while the CDC tried to, you know, 304 00:15:53,633 --> 00:15:56,400 tried to sort out something they couldn't understand. 305 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,067 >> The day Billy got the MMR was a living nightmare, 306 00:15:59,067 --> 00:16:01,267 worst day of my life, to be honest with you. 307 00:16:01,267 --> 00:16:05,967 >> I came in and I saw him lying in his cot, listless. 308 00:16:05,967 --> 00:16:09,567 He started this uncontrollable shaking. 309 00:16:09,567 --> 00:16:11,233 Uncontrollable shaking. 310 00:16:11,233 --> 00:16:14,100 Imagine coming out of a frozen pond. 311 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:18,767 >> His eyes were doing this, and he was shaking, like this. 312 00:16:18,767 --> 00:16:22,067 >> And I remember she grasped him and held him really tight. 313 00:16:22,067 --> 00:16:23,233 To her chest. 314 00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:27,267 >> There's immediate fear in Jon, and immediate, 315 00:16:27,267 --> 00:16:29,067 mommy this is not going to happen, 316 00:16:29,067 --> 00:16:30,233 I don't know what is wrong with you, 317 00:16:30,233 --> 00:16:32,200 but this is not going to happen. 318 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,067 And we get to hospital, we rush him in, doctors are coming in, 319 00:16:36,067 --> 00:16:39,833 looking at him, that's when they said he's had a reaction, 320 00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:44,367 he's had a seizure, this is normal, this is common, 321 00:16:44,367 --> 00:16:48,533 for many, many children who have this vaccination, 322 00:16:48,533 --> 00:16:51,700 it's absolutely okay, he's going to be fine. 323 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:55,233 Nobody ever told me that there would be any side effect to any 324 00:16:55,233 --> 00:16:58,067 of the vaccinations my children had. 325 00:17:06,067 --> 00:17:07,633 >> Following his febrile convulsion 326 00:17:07,633 --> 00:17:10,067 that he had the same day of the MMR, 327 00:17:10,067 --> 00:17:12,433 we were told to take him home. 328 00:17:12,433 --> 00:17:14,333 >> He slept in the bed with us for the night, 329 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,233 he seemed just very, very sleepy. 330 00:17:16,233 --> 00:17:19,533 In fact, he didn't ever really wake 331 00:17:19,533 --> 00:17:22,067 up to the Billy that we had before. 332 00:17:25,067 --> 00:17:28,400 >> For me, it became really necessary to start looking 333 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,667 at what types of medical issues are these children 334 00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:33,867 going through? 335 00:17:33,867 --> 00:17:36,433 What are the other factors that have affected them, 336 00:17:36,433 --> 00:17:38,300 that have brought them to this level 337 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:40,400 of symptomatology that we call autism. 338 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,600 This is now probably the mid-90s. 339 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,733 I came to notice that there was A, a very high use 340 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:50,067 of antibiotics amongst these children, but B, 341 00:17:50,067 --> 00:17:53,667 what became pretty interesting was seeing the number 342 00:17:53,667 --> 00:17:56,533 of families who were reporting 343 00:17:56,533 --> 00:18:00,067 that their child had a regressive type 344 00:18:00,067 --> 00:18:04,067 of behavior occur right after their vaccinations. 345 00:18:04,067 --> 00:18:07,300 A lot of these parents were showing me footage 346 00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:12,767 of their children who had been completely developing normally 347 00:18:12,767 --> 00:18:17,200 until 18 months, and then all of a sudden, post-vaccination, 348 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,333 developed incredible regression. 349 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:24,400 Children who had speech anywhere close to 50 to 100 words, 350 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,933 and had completely lost all of their words. 351 00:18:26,933 --> 00:18:30,333 Children who were extremely attached and interactive 352 00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:33,667 with their parents had suddenly become isolated, 353 00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:36,533 no longer responding to their own name. 354 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:40,833 This was all happening right after their MMR vaccines. 355 00:18:51,333 --> 00:18:55,933 >> My oldest son, Ian, was born normal, developing normally. 356 00:18:55,933 --> 00:18:58,700 He was this beautiful boy, and we ended 357 00:18:58,700 --> 00:19:01,467 up at our 12-month visit, which is his one year, 358 00:19:01,467 --> 00:19:04,167 then they gave him multiple vaccines at once, 359 00:19:04,167 --> 00:19:08,067 and within 7 days, he had a 104 fever, 360 00:19:08,067 --> 00:19:10,700 and a rash all over his body. 361 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:16,067 He had previously been noted, and in our videos, home videos, 362 00:19:16,067 --> 00:19:20,133 that he was walking, and actually running at that point. 363 00:19:20,133 --> 00:19:23,500 Seven days after the vaccine, he was no longer able to do that. 364 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:32,567 [ Music ] 365 00:19:46,067 --> 00:19:47,100 >> He was falling down. 366 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:50,233 He became a really sick, sick little boy. 367 00:19:52,067 --> 00:19:55,300 >> So the question for those of us investigating autism, 368 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:59,733 is age of exposure to MMR, a risk for autism. 369 00:19:59,733 --> 00:20:02,033 And in order to understand why that might be, 370 00:20:02,033 --> 00:20:07,033 you have to understand something of the history of MMR vaccine. 371 00:20:07,033 --> 00:20:11,167 In 1987, there was an MMR vaccine that was being used 372 00:20:11,167 --> 00:20:13,433 in Canada, produced by Smith-Kline-Beecham, 373 00:20:13,433 --> 00:20:16,633 and that vaccine caused meningitis. 374 00:20:16,633 --> 00:20:17,967 It was recognized quickly, 375 00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:21,200 and that vaccine was withdrawn in Canada. 376 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,700 However, in the same month that it was withdrawn in Ontario, 377 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:29,933 it was licensed in the U.K., the name was simply changed 378 00:20:29,933 --> 00:20:33,467 from Trivirix, to Pluserix, in the U.K. it was used 379 00:20:33,467 --> 00:20:36,533 for four years, and likewise, caused meningitis and had 380 00:20:36,533 --> 00:20:37,800 to be rapidly withdrawn. 381 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,167 There was a public outcry. 382 00:20:39,167 --> 00:20:42,433 There was an acute loss of confidence by the public 383 00:20:42,433 --> 00:20:46,733 in vaccine policy makers, and the vaccine should 384 00:20:46,733 --> 00:20:49,033 at that point have been destroyed. 385 00:20:49,033 --> 00:20:50,233 It wasn't. 386 00:20:50,233 --> 00:20:52,833 It was then shipped to developing countries 387 00:20:52,833 --> 00:20:57,033 like Brazil, where it was used in a mass vaccination campaign, 388 00:20:57,033 --> 00:21:00,267 and there was an epidemic of meningitis, 389 00:21:00,267 --> 00:21:02,833 which was entirely predictable. 390 00:21:02,833 --> 00:21:07,533 Now scientists studied that epidemic, and what they found is 391 00:21:07,533 --> 00:21:12,333 that the risk for meningitis was associated with age of exposure. 392 00:21:12,333 --> 00:21:15,567 The younger you got the MMR vaccine, 393 00:21:15,567 --> 00:21:18,067 the greater the risk for meningitis. 394 00:21:18,067 --> 00:21:20,667 For people like me investigating autism, 395 00:21:20,667 --> 00:21:24,667 the question was is there a similar risk in autism? 396 00:21:24,667 --> 00:21:29,700 Is age of exposure to MMR a risk for autism just 397 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:32,667 as it was for meningitis? 398 00:21:32,667 --> 00:21:37,933 We shared with the U.S. Congress and the CDC the hypothesis. 399 00:21:37,933 --> 00:21:41,267 The story as told to us, and which we have an obligation 400 00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,300 to report is that the majority 401 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:47,600 of children regressed following a period of normal development 402 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,833 in the face of an MMR vaccination. 403 00:21:49,833 --> 00:21:52,300 That does not mean it is the cause of the disease. 404 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:55,267 >> The Institute of Medicine is a body of scientists 405 00:21:55,267 --> 00:21:59,067 and physicians that review the available data on vaccine safety 406 00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:03,233 and then advise our government on vaccine research policy. 407 00:22:03,233 --> 00:22:07,367 Well, because Andy Wakefield had put forth this theory 408 00:22:07,367 --> 00:22:11,200 that the age at which you receive the MMR may increase 409 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,367 your risk of autism, the IOM looked to the CDC 410 00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:15,600 to do that very study. 411 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,800 It was a study about timing. 412 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,833 Does the earlier you receive the MMR vaccine increase the risk 413 00:22:21,833 --> 00:22:22,900 of autism? 414 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:25,433 >> When we talk about the MMR study, 415 00:22:25,433 --> 00:22:29,200 nobody had ever requested those data, 416 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,800 because it was a big secret that you could do it. 417 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,733 Thompson told me to email such and such a person, 418 00:22:35,733 --> 00:22:39,400 and then on the inside, I also found out that one 419 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,567 of the people preparing these data sets 420 00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:43,533 for me was Bill Thompson. 421 00:22:43,533 --> 00:22:45,067 >> They don't really want people to know 422 00:22:45,067 --> 00:22:47,467 that this data exists, again, you know? 423 00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:49,967 I just can't believe we actually got you that data. 424 00:22:49,967 --> 00:22:52,567 >> Thompson couldn't send these documents directly 425 00:22:52,567 --> 00:22:56,067 to Brian Hooker, because that would have been illegal. 426 00:22:56,067 --> 00:23:00,567 What Thompson identified was a legal loophole that is referred 427 00:23:00,567 --> 00:23:02,933 to as a citizen's request. 428 00:23:02,933 --> 00:23:04,800 That allowed Thompson to deliver 429 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,233 to Brian Hooker potentially classified information 430 00:23:08,233 --> 00:23:10,067 in a legal way. 431 00:23:14,133 --> 00:23:15,367 >> You get checked in England, 432 00:23:15,367 --> 00:23:17,300 with your babies, at certain times. 433 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:18,700 Health, by health visitors. 434 00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:23,467 So nine months Billy had his full blown check 435 00:23:23,467 --> 00:23:26,733 and there was no parental concerns, 436 00:23:26,733 --> 00:23:28,733 baby laughing, babbling, talking. 437 00:23:28,733 --> 00:23:32,367 So we passed that with flying colors. 438 00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:36,067 Eighteen months is when they next come in, and by this time, 439 00:23:36,067 --> 00:23:39,600 we know there is something seriously wrong with Billy. 440 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,567 >> Probably within five or six days, 441 00:23:42,567 --> 00:23:45,800 the first signs really was this vacancy. 442 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,733 He wasn't the same smiley little baby that he was before. 443 00:23:49,733 --> 00:23:52,433 He had a blank expression. 444 00:23:52,433 --> 00:23:55,167 Then the diarrhea kicked in. 445 00:23:55,167 --> 00:23:58,800 >> His tummy started to get bigger and bigger, bloated. 446 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,667 Rock hard bloated tummy. 447 00:24:00,667 --> 00:24:02,300 He would start to walk on tiptoes. 448 00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:08,667 His hair fell out, and this dreadful, high-pitched scream, 449 00:24:08,667 --> 00:24:11,500 sort of whiny scream developed from him, 450 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,500 and then came the head banging. 451 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,567 The constant banging against his crib. 452 00:24:15,567 --> 00:24:19,133 The constant banging against the floor or a wall or anything 453 00:24:19,133 --> 00:24:21,533 that he could find to bang his head on, 454 00:24:21,533 --> 00:24:23,733 he would thrash it, and thrash it. 455 00:24:23,733 --> 00:24:26,633 Jon and I would lie in bed at night just listening 456 00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:31,533 to this thud, thud, thud, [banging sounds]. 457 00:24:31,533 --> 00:24:32,900 >> Thud. 458 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:35,500 >> There's nothing-- now not even noticing his sister he used 459 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:36,867 to play with. 460 00:24:36,867 --> 00:24:40,133 Jon comes through the front door after work, no recognition 461 00:24:40,133 --> 00:24:43,333 that we were his parents, or that this child even belonged 462 00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:44,933 to us, nothing,nothing. 463 00:24:44,933 --> 00:24:46,267 Gone. 464 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:56,067 >> I mean, that was the time where, our boy changed 465 00:24:56,067 --> 00:25:05,133 from what he was, to a real tragic, tragic case of a child 466 00:25:10,067 --> 00:25:17,067 who regressed into this autistic state, and lost everything. 467 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,467 Lost everything. 468 00:25:24,867 --> 00:25:28,567 >> The CDC, the way that they do research studies is 469 00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:30,867 very reactionary. 470 00:25:30,867 --> 00:25:33,767 They look at something that is creating the press, 471 00:25:33,767 --> 00:25:37,267 and creating a buzz, that could actually lower vaccination 472 00:25:37,267 --> 00:25:39,333 rates, and that's what they study. 473 00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:41,833 They don't study vaccines proactively. 474 00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:45,933 So if Andy had never done his original study and gotten 475 00:25:45,933 --> 00:25:47,633 that published in The Lancet, 476 00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:50,367 would have never created the uproar 477 00:25:50,367 --> 00:25:52,633 that rightfully it should have created, 478 00:25:52,633 --> 00:25:55,600 then the CDC would have never studied this. 479 00:25:57,733 --> 00:26:00,100 >> The press conference for The Lancet paper was called 480 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:02,400 by the Dean of the medical school, who was the Chairman 481 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,067 of the Media Committee. 482 00:26:13,067 --> 00:26:16,633 >> I had done an extensive research 483 00:26:16,633 --> 00:26:20,833 into measles vaccine safety and MMR vaccine safety 484 00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:22,633 in the pre-licensing phase. 485 00:26:22,633 --> 00:26:25,967 In other words, what safety studies had been done before 486 00:26:25,967 --> 00:26:29,467 these vaccines were put onto the market and into children? 487 00:26:29,467 --> 00:26:33,767 The 250 page report was compiled by me, 488 00:26:33,767 --> 00:26:37,400 showing that the vaccine safety studies for MMR 489 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,800 in particular, were lamentable. 490 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,100 They were lamentable. 491 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:44,900 Many, many assumptions have been made about the safety 492 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,667 of this vaccine, and there had been problems 493 00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:50,567 which had been airbrushed. 494 00:26:50,567 --> 00:26:54,333 So I wrote to my colleagues, and the Dean, 495 00:26:54,333 --> 00:26:57,700 and I said going forward there are going to be questions 496 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:59,833 about what parents should do next. 497 00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:02,733 I cannot in due conscience support continued use 498 00:27:02,733 --> 00:27:05,333 of the MMR vaccine, having done this research. 499 00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:08,333 I said, I will continue to vigorously support the use 500 00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,100 of the single vaccine. 501 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:14,533 But can no longer support the use of the triple MMR vaccine. 502 00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:16,267 So the dean, the chairman 503 00:27:16,267 --> 00:27:18,067 of that committee, had three choices. 504 00:27:18,067 --> 00:27:21,933 He could have not had a press conference. 505 00:27:21,933 --> 00:27:25,567 He could have banned me from the press conference, 506 00:27:25,567 --> 00:27:29,567 or when the question came up, as inevitably it would, 507 00:27:29,567 --> 00:27:32,867 what do parents do next about vaccinating their children? 508 00:27:32,867 --> 00:27:34,567 He knew what my response would be. 509 00:27:34,567 --> 00:27:37,967 He could deflect the question to someone else. 510 00:27:37,967 --> 00:27:39,867 When the question came up on the day, 511 00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:42,067 he directed it straight to me. 512 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,067 >> All I recommended at that press conference was 513 00:27:56,067 --> 00:28:00,067 that parents opt for the use of the single vaccines. 514 00:28:00,067 --> 00:28:03,667 Single measles, single mumps, single rubella, 515 00:28:03,667 --> 00:28:07,933 until the issue had been resolved scientifically. 516 00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:10,867 What happened when I made that recommendation, 517 00:28:10,867 --> 00:28:13,767 unilateral decisions were made by the government in the U.K. 518 00:28:13,767 --> 00:28:18,067 to withdraw the importation license for the single vaccines, 519 00:28:18,067 --> 00:28:21,233 Merck opting in the U.S. to cease the production 520 00:28:21,233 --> 00:28:24,533 of the single vaccines, giving parents no option. 521 00:28:24,533 --> 00:28:27,167 I said to a senior representative to the Department 522 00:28:27,167 --> 00:28:30,533 of Health, why, if your objective is to protect children 523 00:28:30,533 --> 00:28:32,600 against serious infectious disease, 524 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,267 why would you take away the option of how parents do that? 525 00:28:36,267 --> 00:28:39,067 And she said "because if we allow parents the choice 526 00:28:39,067 --> 00:28:43,167 of single vaccines, it would destroy our MMR program." 527 00:28:43,167 --> 00:28:46,267 In other words, the concern was for the protection 528 00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:49,900 of the program, over and above the protection of children. 529 00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:56,600 >> No one's career has ever been advanced 530 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,733 in the medical industrial complex by being outwardly 531 00:29:00,733 --> 00:29:03,800 and openly critical of the vaccine industry. 532 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,567 I'm Mark Blaxill, father of a daughter diagnosed 533 00:29:07,567 --> 00:29:10,533 with autism back in 1998. 534 00:29:10,533 --> 00:29:13,533 I've written two books that have come out of the autism movement, 535 00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:18,333 that have been projected into autism advocacy ever since. 536 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,067 Michaela was born typical. 537 00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:21,633 Everything was fine. 538 00:29:21,633 --> 00:29:24,067 She was developing normally through her first birthday. 539 00:29:24,067 --> 00:29:28,167 We had vivid memories of, you know, early language, 540 00:29:28,167 --> 00:29:30,067 joined attention, lots of play. 541 00:29:30,067 --> 00:29:32,867 She was adorable, beautiful, cute. 542 00:29:32,867 --> 00:29:37,633 And then somewhere in the months after she began to slip away, 543 00:29:37,633 --> 00:29:40,767 and she lost language, and she began to retreat 544 00:29:40,767 --> 00:29:42,900 into a world of her own. 545 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:48,267 And at 2 years, 9 months, we got a formal diagnosis 546 00:29:48,267 --> 00:29:50,600 of a full syndrome autism. 547 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,167 It was a hopeless, pessimistic future 548 00:29:54,167 --> 00:29:55,533 that was laid out in front of us. 549 00:29:55,533 --> 00:29:57,900 She was going to be disabled for the rest of her life, 550 00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:02,233 likely to be non-vocal, in an institution, 551 00:30:02,233 --> 00:30:07,067 and that the best thing we could do was to accept the inevitable. 552 00:30:07,067 --> 00:30:11,233 Part of the story we heard from the Harvard experts was 553 00:30:11,233 --> 00:30:14,867 that autism was genetic, it was low 554 00:30:14,867 --> 00:30:17,333 and relatively constant prevalence. 555 00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:19,467 The more I learned, the more clear was 556 00:30:19,467 --> 00:30:22,833 that that whole orthodox view was false. 557 00:30:22,833 --> 00:30:23,800 Completely false. 558 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,033 Revolutions only happen in science 559 00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:27,900 when there is an anomaly. 560 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,900 An anomaly that the old orthodoxy can't explain. 561 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,500 With autism, the anomaly was the explosion in cases, 562 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:35,800 which meant that what people were trying to describe 563 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,167 as a genetic, neurologically based condition couldn't 564 00:30:39,167 --> 00:30:40,433 be genetic. 565 00:30:40,433 --> 00:30:41,800 It could only be environmental. 566 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,200 It could only be some set of things 567 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,033 that happened to children. 568 00:30:45,033 --> 00:30:49,567 And you had to ask the question what might it have been? 569 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,467 >> One of my personal training clients was the Director 570 00:30:57,467 --> 00:31:01,233 of Programs for LWT London Weekend Television. 571 00:31:01,233 --> 00:31:04,700 >> And this guy said why don't you do a program, 572 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,667 and people out there, there may be someone 573 00:31:07,667 --> 00:31:09,067 out there with this condition. 574 00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:11,633 >> He said this is going to be an unbelievable story. 575 00:31:11,633 --> 00:31:13,733 >> And we thought we've got nothing to lose, right now, 576 00:31:13,733 --> 00:31:16,933 this child is either going to kill himself because he's going 577 00:31:16,933 --> 00:31:19,767 to smash his head to pieces, or we're going to go insane, 578 00:31:19,767 --> 00:31:21,733 because everybody here is miserable. 579 00:31:21,733 --> 00:31:29,500 >> That program was aired, and we received 250,000 email hits. 580 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,433 >> Computers were kind of new then, 581 00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:32,967 the whole internet computer thing. 582 00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:34,367 Ours crashed. 583 00:31:34,367 --> 00:31:36,433 We set up a Billy website, you know, just in case somebody-- 584 00:31:36,433 --> 00:31:39,067 one person, might be able to help us. 585 00:31:39,067 --> 00:31:41,833 Crashed. The television station's computers crashed. 586 00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:45,333 They had never seen anything like this before. 587 00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:49,700 The parents had exactly the same story as us. 588 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:53,367 Antibiotics, some with chicken pox, a lot vaccine. 589 00:31:53,367 --> 00:31:56,567 Bang, the symptoms all the same. 590 00:31:56,567 --> 00:32:00,700 The diarrhea, the constipation, the high-pitched scream, 591 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,100 the banging of the head, we've all lived through it. 592 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,500 It was the same story. 593 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:08,167 >> And it was Polly's idea to put all of this stuff together 594 00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:11,733 in a magazine called The Autism File. 595 00:32:11,733 --> 00:32:15,300 >> They all ask the questions, and maybe someone can help. 596 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:19,767 >> These questions from these parents were not being answered 597 00:32:19,767 --> 00:32:22,900 by the doctors that they went to see. 598 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,500 They came to us out of desperation, 599 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:30,067 and we had 45,000 subscribers within four months. 600 00:32:33,567 --> 00:32:37,533 >> When I originally got the MMR autism data, 601 00:32:37,533 --> 00:32:41,067 I came up with my own analysis plan, and I stepped 602 00:32:41,067 --> 00:32:42,733 through logically 603 00:32:42,733 --> 00:32:46,300 and systematically how the data should have been approached. 604 00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:51,067 I looked first of all at males versus females. 605 00:32:51,067 --> 00:32:54,800 Then I looked at black males, the relative risk 606 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,067 of them receiving an autism diagnosis was astronomical, 607 00:32:59,067 --> 00:33:01,633 and it was highly statistically significant. 608 00:33:01,633 --> 00:33:05,367 I really had to scratch my head and say I know nothing 609 00:33:05,367 --> 00:33:07,167 about the MMR vaccine. 610 00:33:07,167 --> 00:33:10,633 And so that's when I originally called Andy. 611 00:33:10,633 --> 00:33:14,167 >> Wow, really? 612 00:33:14,167 --> 00:33:15,867 After everything that had happened, 613 00:33:15,867 --> 00:33:17,800 everything that we had all been through, 614 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,900 everything the families had suffered for the last 15 years, 615 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:27,900 and the CDC had known all along there was this MMR autism risk. 616 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,233 >> As I started to divulge more of the conversations, 617 00:33:31,233 --> 00:33:37,500 and I think it really hit him, that this was a major crack 618 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:39,933 in the wall of the CDC. 619 00:33:39,933 --> 00:33:43,467 >> The first thing that Thompson did was to plot a graph. 620 00:33:43,467 --> 00:33:48,233 A graph of percentage of children vaccinated against age 621 00:33:48,233 --> 00:33:50,733 at first MMR vaccination. 622 00:33:50,733 --> 00:33:54,067 The children with autism are represented by the pink line. 623 00:33:54,067 --> 00:33:56,533 The children without autism by the blue line. 624 00:33:56,533 --> 00:33:59,633 Now, if there's no link between early MMR and autism, 625 00:33:59,633 --> 00:34:02,133 those two lines should track together, 626 00:34:02,133 --> 00:34:03,600 whatever the age at first MMR. 627 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,467 And they do track again. 628 00:34:06,467 --> 00:34:09,067 Until they get to 15 months, then they separate, 629 00:34:09,067 --> 00:34:12,833 then they continue to separate thereafter. 630 00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:15,200 This was their first indication 631 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,267 that MMR vaccine was causing autism. 632 00:34:18,267 --> 00:34:21,500 And that finding alone rocked Thompson back on his heels. 633 00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:24,667 >> This was a huge issue for Andy. 634 00:34:24,667 --> 00:34:27,700 >> So I said to Brian, Brian are you recording 635 00:34:27,700 --> 00:34:29,200 these conversations? 636 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,833 >> Recording phone conversations was not really palatable to me. 637 00:34:32,833 --> 00:34:34,300 Almost seemed cruel. 638 00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:38,233 >> Whistle blowers can disappear as easily as they came. 639 00:34:38,233 --> 00:34:41,133 They're like a fish on a hook, and your job is 640 00:34:41,133 --> 00:34:43,067 to get them into the boat. 641 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,267 >> Temple walked at 12 months, so he had been walking 642 00:34:51,267 --> 00:34:53,733 for an entire month before we went 643 00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:56,667 in for the next set of vaccinations. 644 00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:59,600 The minute we walked into the pediatric office, 645 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,100 Lou, his twin, she is screaming her head off, 646 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,333 I mean she knows what's going on. 647 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:08,400 She doesn't want the doctor touching her. 648 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,333 I look up, and there's she's got the shots lined up, 649 00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:13,800 three for him, three for her. 650 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,467 By the second shot, Lucinda had flipped herself over, 651 00:35:17,467 --> 00:35:21,533 so I had to stop looking at what I was doing, 652 00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:23,367 unstrap her, get her out. 653 00:35:23,367 --> 00:35:25,067 Well, the minute I get her out and I calm her 654 00:35:25,067 --> 00:35:28,467 down a little bit, and I look over, he's screaming, 655 00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:31,067 I look at the shots, and I notice 656 00:35:31,067 --> 00:35:33,933 that one of hers was gone. 657 00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:35,700 There are only two shots left for her. 658 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,233 And I asked the nurse practitioner, I said, 659 00:35:39,233 --> 00:35:40,667 what happened to that other shot? 660 00:35:40,667 --> 00:35:44,200 She says "Oh, oh my goodness, I gave it to him." 661 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,100 I said which one was it? 662 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,233 She said it was the other MMR. 663 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:49,833 I said call the doctor. 664 00:35:49,833 --> 00:35:52,133 This baby is screaming his head off. 665 00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:53,533 You've given him an extra shot. 666 00:35:53,533 --> 00:35:56,133 I don't know what the effect of that is going to be. 667 00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:56,867 We're leaving. 668 00:35:56,867 --> 00:35:57,900 And I left. 669 00:35:57,900 --> 00:35:59,600 So she never got her shots. 670 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,867 I go home, this baby cried, cried, cried. 671 00:36:02,867 --> 00:36:05,200 I put him down on his little blanket, 672 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,300 he starts banging his head on the floor, 673 00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,633 banging his head on the floor. 674 00:36:09,633 --> 00:36:15,133 The next morning, I go in his room, and he's staring 675 00:36:15,133 --> 00:36:17,633 into space, and he's looking around like this. 676 00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:23,067 As if, you know, he's a bit paralyzed. 677 00:36:23,067 --> 00:36:26,067 Not the baby who was always doing this every morning, 678 00:36:26,067 --> 00:36:28,567 smiling for me to get him out of bed. 679 00:36:28,567 --> 00:36:33,600 And I pick him up, and he does this. 680 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,200 And I said, what has happened to my baby? 681 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,533 So I call the clinic. 682 00:36:38,533 --> 00:36:43,233 And I said I think my child has had an adverse reaction 683 00:36:43,233 --> 00:36:45,733 to those shots yesterday. 684 00:36:45,733 --> 00:36:47,933 She says "No, no, no. 685 00:36:47,933 --> 00:36:50,567 I'm waiting for the representative from Merck. 686 00:36:50,567 --> 00:36:52,500 I don't think it's a reaction to that." 687 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:59,433 [ Music ] 688 00:36:59,433 --> 00:37:02,500 >> Bill Thompson looked at African Americans, 689 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,167 he saw that those African Americans that got the MMR 690 00:37:06,167 --> 00:37:09,900 on time were 2.64 times more likely 691 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,633 to get an autism diagnosis than those African Americans 692 00:37:13,633 --> 00:37:16,200 that receive the MMR after three years of age. 693 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,833 >> So what Bill is suggesting is that among the blacks, 694 00:37:19,833 --> 00:37:23,367 the ones that were getting vaccinated earlier were more 695 00:37:23,367 --> 00:37:24,867 likely to have autism. 696 00:37:24,867 --> 00:37:29,133 >> At that point, the group of researchers that was working 697 00:37:29,133 --> 00:37:32,367 on this particular study they were having weekly meetings. 698 00:37:32,367 --> 00:37:35,400 Coleen Boyle, who was the head 699 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,333 of developmental disabilities branch 700 00:37:38,333 --> 00:37:40,467 and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, 701 00:37:40,467 --> 00:37:42,933 who was one of Thompson's direct supervisors. 702 00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:45,567 Frank DeStefano, who was the head 703 00:37:45,567 --> 00:37:47,733 of the Immunization Safety Office, 704 00:37:47,733 --> 00:37:51,967 and a post-doctoral research associate named Tanya Bhasin. 705 00:37:51,967 --> 00:37:54,967 In that meeting, Thompson brought up the fact 706 00:37:54,967 --> 00:38:00,067 that African Americans were showing a highly statistically 707 00:38:00,067 --> 00:38:04,600 significant risk of autism if they got the MMR on time. 708 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,200 >> What is said in these closed door meetings? 709 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,400 I mean, do people say well oh, this is unacceptable, 710 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,600 or is it just do they always say oh this can't be right? 711 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,300 Or? 712 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:16,533 >> I'm not going to lie. 713 00:38:16,533 --> 00:38:21,333 But I also don't want to say things to you right now 714 00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:27,167 that aren't, that aren't some written form. 715 00:38:27,167 --> 00:38:28,533 >> Right. 716 00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:34,100 >> The analysis regarding the African Americans was the 8 717 00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:39,900 on the Richter scale earthquake that just shook through the CDC. 718 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:44,200 >> I take him to see the pediatrician that I know. 719 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,533 And she looks at me, she closes the door, and she whispers. 720 00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:50,867 She says, "Sheila, I believe he has autism." 721 00:38:50,867 --> 00:38:51,867 I said, "What? 722 00:38:51,867 --> 00:38:53,867 Like Rainman?" 723 00:38:53,867 --> 00:38:55,700 She says, "Something like that. 724 00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,233 I'm going to refer y'all to a neurologist." 725 00:38:58,233 --> 00:39:01,567 And we go see the neurologist the next week. 726 00:39:01,567 --> 00:39:06,433 He says he has every classical symptom of autism. 727 00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:07,567 I do not believe this. 728 00:39:07,567 --> 00:39:08,700 I was angry. 729 00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,100 When he explained it to me what autism is, 730 00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:13,700 he told me he was born that way. 731 00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:15,700 I said, no he wasn't. 732 00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,067 >> Clearly, there was a very high risk of autism 733 00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:19,400 in African American children. 734 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,700 Here's the thing. 735 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,500 We know that autism is four times more common in boys. 736 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,367 And so to see that effect mirrored 737 00:39:25,367 --> 00:39:28,800 in the African American children was a compelling finding. 738 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,833 >> When I looked at African American males only, 739 00:39:32,833 --> 00:39:35,533 the relative risk was 3.36. 740 00:39:35,533 --> 00:39:37,200 It just blew my mind. 741 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,500 And that's when I wanted to call Bill Thompson on the phone. 742 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,367 And his statement to me was "Oh! 743 00:39:43,367 --> 00:39:44,633 You found it." 744 00:39:44,633 --> 00:39:48,733 >> It appears in the final publication is that race 745 00:39:48,733 --> 00:39:50,267 in general is downplayed. 746 00:39:50,267 --> 00:39:52,500 >> Of course it is! 747 00:39:52,500 --> 00:40:01,567 [ Music ] 748 00:40:05,033 --> 00:40:07,267 >> Temple's twin is amazing. 749 00:40:07,267 --> 00:40:10,567 She is fluent in three languages. 750 00:40:10,567 --> 00:40:13,267 She speaks French like a native. 751 00:40:13,267 --> 00:40:16,167 She is an A student. 752 00:40:16,167 --> 00:40:19,233 She plays classical piano. 753 00:40:19,233 --> 00:40:23,433 With all of the guilt that I feel from that day, 754 00:40:23,433 --> 00:40:27,267 one of the best decisions I made for her was to walk out of 755 00:40:27,267 --> 00:40:29,567 that office without her being vaccinated. 756 00:40:29,567 --> 00:40:33,833 At the end of this journey, I don't want to be one 757 00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:36,333 of those mothers standing there saying I wish, I would have, 758 00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,033 could have, should have done. 759 00:40:38,033 --> 00:40:43,100 I want to be able to say I gave it everything that I had. 760 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,667 I gave it my best shot. 761 00:40:44,667 --> 00:40:49,700 His twin is going into the 11th grade and for someone 762 00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,467 who still can't manage to cross the street. 763 00:40:52,467 --> 00:40:55,400 Now, am I grateful he's here? 764 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,033 You bet. I'm grateful my son lived [sobbing], 765 00:40:59,033 --> 00:41:05,300 I was so naïve that he would live a fulfilling life. 766 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:10,133 He would end up being a happy man. 767 00:41:10,133 --> 00:41:12,767 Having a family [sobbing]. 768 00:41:12,767 --> 00:41:14,433 My dreams for him. 769 00:41:14,433 --> 00:41:23,500 And every year that goes by, the older my son gets, 770 00:41:24,433 --> 00:41:28,067 the further that dream seems to be. 771 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,233 >> All about vaccines! 772 00:41:32,233 --> 00:41:34,800 >> So what do vaccines do? 773 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,800 >> Vaccines build up your immune system 774 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,733 and make you stronger to fight off disease. 775 00:41:38,733 --> 00:41:40,533 >> Are vaccines safe? 776 00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:42,400 >> Yes. The studies involving millions 777 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,533 of children have shown no connection 778 00:41:44,533 --> 00:41:46,267 between vaccines and autism. 779 00:41:46,267 --> 00:41:49,133 >> Stick to the schedule. 780 00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:52,167 >> The CDC's own vaccine schedule, which we are required 781 00:41:52,167 --> 00:41:55,167 to adhere to as parents in America recommends 782 00:41:55,167 --> 00:41:59,433 that our children get the MMR between 12 and 18 months. 783 00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:01,967 But in this hidden data, provided to us 784 00:42:01,967 --> 00:42:06,167 by William Thompson, it is clear that for African Americans, 785 00:42:06,167 --> 00:42:08,367 this is actually the most dangerous time 786 00:42:08,367 --> 00:42:09,900 to deliver the MMR. 787 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,567 >> The CDC in my opinion is one of the- 788 00:42:12,567 --> 00:42:14,300 where I go to if I need information 789 00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:15,433 about an infectious disease. 790 00:42:15,433 --> 00:42:18,067 I probably either go on their website, 791 00:42:18,067 --> 00:42:21,567 or open one of the reference books every day. 792 00:42:21,567 --> 00:42:24,333 That building is filled with a lot of scientists 793 00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:26,067 that are smarter than me. 794 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,100 >> The analysis plan is one of the most important parts 795 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:40,833 of the scientific study. 796 00:42:40,833 --> 00:42:44,567 It's the laws or the rules by which the scientist will adhere 797 00:42:44,567 --> 00:42:46,733 to while doing the study. 798 00:42:46,733 --> 00:42:49,133 And this analysis plan is put together 799 00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:50,467 by the scientists themselves. 800 00:42:50,467 --> 00:42:52,533 Sometimes their superior's way in. 801 00:42:52,533 --> 00:42:56,133 But once they've locked that analysis plan. 802 00:42:56,133 --> 00:42:59,167 They said this is how we are going to use the data. 803 00:42:59,167 --> 00:43:02,600 And you can't deviate from that analysis plan, 804 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,333 or you're at risk for fraud. 805 00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:05,733 Scientific fraud. 806 00:43:05,733 --> 00:43:08,200 Did they deviate from the analysis plan 807 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,967 after seeing something they didn't like? 808 00:43:10,967 --> 00:43:14,267 If they did, we have a real problem. 809 00:43:14,267 --> 00:43:17,833 >> Thompson not only played a major role 810 00:43:17,833 --> 00:43:21,933 in developing the analysis plan, he was the numbers guy. 811 00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:24,967 He was responsible for collecting the data, 812 00:43:24,967 --> 00:43:27,800 analyzing the data, and presenting the results, 813 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,600 and by November 2001, the results were in. 814 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,467 >> Now with the MMR autism one, the- 815 00:43:35,467 --> 00:43:41,333 we had an analysis plan that we were supposed to execute, 816 00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:44,100 and it was written, and you know, 817 00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,633 I'm going to be sharing these draft analysis plans 818 00:43:47,633 --> 00:43:48,967 that we had. 819 00:43:48,967 --> 00:43:51,733 And you can see whether we did what we were going to do. 820 00:43:51,733 --> 00:43:54,567 >> That analysis plan had been agreed upon, 821 00:43:54,567 --> 00:43:58,533 not only by the co-authors, but also by CDC superiors. 822 00:43:58,533 --> 00:44:01,133 >> In order to conceal the effect of the MMR, what they had 823 00:44:01,133 --> 00:44:05,167 to do was reduce the number of children in the study in order 824 00:44:05,167 --> 00:44:09,533 to reduce what is referred to as the statistical power. 825 00:44:09,533 --> 00:44:13,433 That is, the ability of the study to detect a difference 826 00:44:13,433 --> 00:44:15,233 if one genuinely exists. 827 00:44:15,233 --> 00:44:17,267 In the analysis plan, they had agreed 828 00:44:17,267 --> 00:44:19,533 to use two sources of information. 829 00:44:19,533 --> 00:44:21,600 The first was the children's school records, 830 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,733 and the second was the children's Georgia birth 831 00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:25,067 certificate records. 832 00:44:25,067 --> 00:44:27,700 So while every child in the study had a school record, 833 00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:28,967 only half of the children 834 00:44:28,967 --> 00:44:30,633 in the study had a Georgia birth certificate record, 835 00:44:30,633 --> 00:44:33,733 because the other half had been born in other states. 836 00:44:33,733 --> 00:44:35,767 So the analysis plan was explicit. 837 00:44:35,767 --> 00:44:38,067 Information on a child's race was to come 838 00:44:38,067 --> 00:44:39,933 from their school record. 839 00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:43,600 But when confronted by data that revealed an increased risk 840 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,533 of autism in African American children, they deviated 841 00:44:46,533 --> 00:44:48,200 from their analysis plan. 842 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,700 They chose to get the race data not from the school record, 843 00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:53,900 but from the Georgia birth certificate record. 844 00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:57,067 >> Instead of having 3,000 individuals in the study, 845 00:44:57,067 --> 00:45:00,133 it went down to about 1,800. 846 00:45:00,133 --> 00:45:05,067 The relative risk went down from 2.64 to 1.8, 847 00:45:05,067 --> 00:45:06,867 but more importantly, 848 00:45:06,867 --> 00:45:10,567 that relative risk was no longer statistically significant. 849 00:45:10,567 --> 00:45:13,333 >> And I'll ask you to step forward to receive your prize 850 00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:15,500 from the hands of His Majesty, the King. 851 00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:21,067 [ Music and Applause ] 852 00:45:21,067 --> 00:45:23,567 >> I am Luc Montangier, M.D. 853 00:46:25,067 --> 00:46:27,700 >> Shortly after Julie Gerberding became head 854 00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:28,833 of the CDC, 855 00:46:28,833 --> 00:46:31,133 I began to communicate with her 856 00:46:31,133 --> 00:46:33,233 and ask her to come to my office. 857 00:46:33,233 --> 00:46:37,433 There didn't seem to be objective research going on. 858 00:46:37,433 --> 00:46:42,767 There was the CDC trying to promote vaccination 859 00:46:42,767 --> 00:46:45,833 for children, and then they were doing the safety 860 00:46:45,833 --> 00:46:47,300 research themselves. 861 00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:50,533 >> In CDC's judgment, the best public policy is 862 00:46:50,533 --> 00:46:53,500 to continue vaccination unchanged, 863 00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:57,133 while aggressively working to try to identify causes 864 00:46:57,133 --> 00:46:59,233 of developmental disabilities. 865 00:46:59,233 --> 00:47:03,100 >> The CDC, I just thought, was institutionally conflicted. 866 00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,467 >> The CDC can't take money directly from pharma, 867 00:47:05,467 --> 00:47:07,100 but they can set up a foundation, 868 00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,833 and the foundation can attract donations 869 00:47:09,833 --> 00:47:11,867 from commercial interests, and does. 870 00:47:11,867 --> 00:47:15,633 Merck, Glaxo-Smith-Kline, now Pfizer, Sanofi Aventis, 871 00:47:15,633 --> 00:47:19,400 have huge, multi-billion dollar vaccine businesses. 872 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,800 They're profitable. 873 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,500 They promote them because some of these new high-tech vaccines, 874 00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:28,067 that are patented, that are high priced, get protected 875 00:47:28,067 --> 00:47:31,800 by this little cocoon of regulatory capture in HHS. 876 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,933 And are guaranteed multi-billion dollar franchises. 877 00:47:36,933 --> 00:47:40,333 >> When I was working at Merck, I was a sales rep for Vioxx. 878 00:47:40,333 --> 00:47:42,800 The whole scandal started when it was discovered 879 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,700 that Merck had manipulated data and covered up the fact 880 00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,767 that Vioxx actually caused twice the amount of heart attacks 881 00:47:49,767 --> 00:47:51,733 and strokes than the placebo. 882 00:47:51,733 --> 00:47:53,767 What I learned from that experience, 883 00:47:53,767 --> 00:47:54,867 just because things are 884 00:47:54,867 --> 00:47:58,067 on the market does not mean they are safe. 885 00:47:58,067 --> 00:48:00,600 [ Cheering ] 886 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,067 I think we get into a very dangerous territory 887 00:48:03,067 --> 00:48:04,433 with vaccinations. 888 00:48:04,433 --> 00:48:07,600 If a drug company gets just one vaccine added to the schedule, 889 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,400 they can make upwards of $30 billion in one year. 890 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,800 >> It's no secret. 891 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,967 I think they've published their intention, which is they want 892 00:48:14,967 --> 00:48:17,200 to create an environment 893 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,367 of constant vaccination from cradle to grave. 894 00:48:20,367 --> 00:48:23,667 They want infant vaccines they expanded flu shots, 895 00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:28,233 DTAP boosters, Gardasil shots, meningococcal shots, 896 00:48:28,233 --> 00:48:31,567 they want adult vaccines, you know, they want you and me 897 00:48:31,567 --> 00:48:35,200 to come in and get a constant barrage of shots, 898 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,567 and then they want vaccines for the elderly. 899 00:48:37,567 --> 00:48:40,067 >> We have highly profitable product, 900 00:48:40,067 --> 00:48:42,733 because the safety testing isn't as rigorous 901 00:48:42,733 --> 00:48:44,500 as a normal pharmaceutical drug. 902 00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,400 The gold standard is double blind, 903 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,133 placebo-based long-term study. 904 00:48:49,133 --> 00:48:52,900 And that just isn't done with vaccines, 905 00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:55,133 because they're classified in a different way 906 00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:57,933 as a public health measure, and they haven't been tested 907 00:48:57,933 --> 00:49:01,867 in combination with other vaccines, yet doctors give six 908 00:49:01,867 --> 00:49:04,100 to nine doses per visit. 909 00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,233 It's insane. 910 00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:08,600 If a pharmaceutical drug was tested like this, 911 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:09,933 it wouldn't be on the market. 912 00:49:09,933 --> 00:49:11,367 But because it's a vaccine, 913 00:49:11,367 --> 00:49:14,933 and the safety testing is less rigorous, 914 00:49:14,933 --> 00:49:17,200 our children are being experimented on. 915 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,767 >> I don't like to look at autism 916 00:49:18,767 --> 00:49:20,233 from a behavioral perspective. 917 00:49:20,233 --> 00:49:24,067 I look at it more from what causes it in each child. 918 00:49:24,067 --> 00:49:28,067 When I want to define autism, I have to say it's the inability 919 00:49:28,067 --> 00:49:30,167 to detoxify the way you're supposed to, 920 00:49:30,167 --> 00:49:33,067 at the rate you're supposed to, and it all has to do 921 00:49:33,067 --> 00:49:34,733 with this toxic overload. 922 00:49:34,733 --> 00:49:37,133 These children are not detoxifying 923 00:49:37,133 --> 00:49:38,600 from the vaccinations. 924 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,133 Same thing with GMO products, the pesticides in our food. 925 00:49:43,133 --> 00:49:47,333 If I can prevent the child from being exposed to more toxins, 926 00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:49,800 then when I'm teaching the child, 927 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,533 at least the child is getting better, 928 00:49:51,533 --> 00:49:54,200 and not continuously getting worse. 929 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,333 >> Without a doubt, what's happened 930 00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:57,067 to Billy has changed his life. 931 00:50:01,033 --> 00:50:01,967 >> I did it! 932 00:50:01,967 --> 00:50:03,433 >> There you go, you got a strike! 933 00:50:03,433 --> 00:50:06,667 >> What I have on my hands now a 19-year-old man, 934 00:50:06,667 --> 00:50:09,700 he's 6 foot 2, he is volatile. 935 00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:12,967 On good days, Billy is as brilliant as an angel. 936 00:50:12,967 --> 00:50:15,867 On bad days the slightest thing can trigger him, and he's scary. 937 00:50:15,867 --> 00:50:19,167 >> I'm going to go downstairs and get daddy right now. 938 00:50:19,167 --> 00:50:20,500 >> No, you need to stay up here, okay? 939 00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:23,633 >> I'm going to kill daddy right now! 940 00:50:23,633 --> 00:50:24,967 >> Bill, listen to me. 941 00:50:24,967 --> 00:50:28,100 I'm going to stay up here, we're going to calm down okay? 942 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:29,367 [Laughter] 943 00:50:29,367 --> 00:50:30,933 >> The reason they become aggressive, and dangerous 944 00:50:30,933 --> 00:50:35,833 in some cases, is because they have no ability to communicate. 945 00:50:35,833 --> 00:50:41,600 >> Because mummy asked Kent, but Kent bring the sweet corn, 946 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,433 then bring in the chickens here. 947 00:50:44,433 --> 00:50:46,267 Here, this is your fault, mummy. 948 00:50:46,267 --> 00:50:49,433 >> If you're not able to express your needs, your wants, 949 00:50:49,433 --> 00:50:52,800 your desires, your happiness and sadness and so on, 950 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,000 you would become aggressive. 951 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,033 That's often when we see the worst part of autism. 952 00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:07,500 >> We have to occupy his room and use his video player, 953 00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:10,967 and of course, that is a massive intrusion in his space, 954 00:51:10,967 --> 00:51:14,067 and he got very upset. 955 00:51:14,067 --> 00:51:17,433 >> Where else in this house can we play a video? 956 00:51:17,433 --> 00:51:22,400 Remember? Listen, Bill reduce the stress level. 957 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,833 >> No! Don't hurt Daddy. 958 00:51:23,833 --> 00:51:26,367 Out there, there's millions of me's, there's millions 959 00:51:26,367 --> 00:51:29,133 of Polly Tommey's with vaccine damaged children. 960 00:51:29,133 --> 00:51:32,500 I'm telling you this, because I do not want you 961 00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:34,233 to live the life that I've led. 962 00:51:34,233 --> 00:51:36,100 I don't want you to go through the pain. 963 00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,900 I do not want to see you suffer, or your family suffer. 964 00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:40,067 That is why I'm telling you. 965 00:51:40,067 --> 00:51:41,900 I've no other reason to tell you about it. 966 00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:44,900 It's not my concern, my kid's already damaged. 967 00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:55,567 >> I am a senior research scientist here at MIT, 968 00:51:55,567 --> 00:51:56,633 in the computer science 969 00:51:56,633 --> 00:51:58,733 and artificial intelligence laboratory. 970 00:51:58,733 --> 00:52:01,900 I have a Bachelor's degree in biology from MIT, 971 00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:05,367 and I have MSEE and PhD degrees, also from MIT 972 00:52:05,367 --> 00:52:08,467 in electrical engineering and computer science. 973 00:52:08,467 --> 00:52:11,067 I became interested in autism a long time ago 974 00:52:11,067 --> 00:52:14,133 when my best friend at the time had a son who was diagnosed 975 00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:17,600 with autism following a DPT shot. 976 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,467 He had a high fever after the shot, seizures a week later, 977 00:52:20,467 --> 00:52:23,267 and was later diagnosed with autism. 978 00:52:23,267 --> 00:52:25,967 >> We have to accept the fact that autism is new. 979 00:52:25,967 --> 00:52:29,067 That before 1930, the rate of autism 980 00:52:29,067 --> 00:52:31,133 in the world was effectively zero. 981 00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:34,167 And then for a long time it was 1 in 10,000. 982 00:52:34,167 --> 00:52:37,067 >> I got interested in studying autism eight years ago 983 00:52:37,067 --> 00:52:39,900 when I saw the numbers go up, and I was quite alarmed, 984 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,933 because I could see that the trend was exponential growth. 985 00:52:42,933 --> 00:52:45,433 And exponential growth is extremely scary. 986 00:52:45,433 --> 00:52:49,133 >> Since really the mid- to late 80s, 987 00:52:49,133 --> 00:52:51,367 we've gone from this low-prevalence environment 988 00:52:51,367 --> 00:52:55,600 to a rate of increase where the trend is still vertical. 989 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,300 We have not seen a flattening in trend. 990 00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:00,533 >> Every couple of years, the CDC provides a number 991 00:53:00,533 --> 00:53:03,633 of what percentage of kids are diagnosed with autism. 992 00:53:03,633 --> 00:53:06,433 And you've got the dots going all the way back to 1975. 993 00:53:06,433 --> 00:53:10,067 You draw the line, it is a perfect exponential curve. 994 00:53:10,067 --> 00:53:14,067 If we assume that things are going to continue as they have, 995 00:53:14,067 --> 00:53:17,633 for the past 30 years, into the future, we can predict 996 00:53:17,633 --> 00:53:22,300 that by 2032, 80% of the boys born will end 997 00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:24,367 up on the autism spectrum. 998 00:53:24,367 --> 00:53:26,500 Half the children, 80% of the boys. 999 00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:35,567 [ Music ] 1000 00:53:47,067 --> 00:53:49,067 >> If you think the vaccine is only a problem 1001 00:53:49,067 --> 00:53:52,067 for African American kids like me, you're wrong. 1002 00:53:52,067 --> 00:53:54,233 >> There's an even bigger problem. 1003 00:53:54,233 --> 00:53:58,933 One that puts all kids at risk, and it's called isolated autism. 1004 00:54:06,433 --> 00:54:08,867 >> When the CDC researchers set out to do this study, 1005 00:54:08,867 --> 00:54:10,900 they asked themselves the question 1006 00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:13,700 if early MMR vaccine causes autism, 1007 00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:18,733 in which children would we be most likely to find this effect? 1008 00:54:18,733 --> 00:54:23,533 Their answer is children with no developmental concerns 1009 00:54:23,533 --> 00:54:24,767 for the first year of life. 1010 00:54:24,767 --> 00:54:27,133 Children who were perfectly healthy 1011 00:54:27,133 --> 00:54:31,133 until they received their MMR vaccine. 1012 00:54:31,133 --> 00:54:34,067 They called this group isolated autism. 1013 00:54:34,067 --> 00:54:39,233 Now, this does not refer to an isolated cause of autism, 1014 00:54:39,233 --> 00:54:41,433 or an isolated group with autism. 1015 00:54:41,433 --> 00:54:43,733 They isolated autism out, 1016 00:54:43,733 --> 00:54:48,433 so children who had no co-morbid conditions apart 1017 00:54:48,433 --> 00:54:50,167 from their autism. 1018 00:54:50,167 --> 00:54:52,633 No cerebral palsy. 1019 00:54:52,633 --> 00:54:54,233 No mental retardation. 1020 00:54:54,233 --> 00:54:55,967 No visual or hearing impairment. 1021 00:54:55,967 --> 00:55:00,567 No epilepsy, and no birth defects. 1022 00:55:00,567 --> 00:55:04,333 This risk group includes essentially every healthy child 1023 00:55:04,333 --> 00:55:05,800 in the world. 1024 00:55:07,067 --> 00:55:09,467 >> I'm a single father. 1025 00:55:09,467 --> 00:55:14,533 Raising a 15-year-old severely autistic, 1026 00:55:14,533 --> 00:55:17,700 non-verbal teenaged daughter. 1027 00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:20,533 When she was 15 months old, she received a round of vaccines 1028 00:55:20,533 --> 00:55:23,867 which included the MMR and DTAP. 1029 00:55:23,867 --> 00:55:25,367 She developed a high fever, 1030 00:55:25,367 --> 00:55:28,533 the fever broke, she lost everything. 1031 00:55:28,533 --> 00:55:30,400 >> My daughter was six weeks old when I took her 1032 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,267 in for her vaccination. 1033 00:55:32,267 --> 00:55:35,600 Two hours later, she had a five minute seizure, and two hours 1034 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,067 after that, she had another five minute seizure. 1035 00:55:38,067 --> 00:55:39,300 Mama's here. 1036 00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:40,933 Come on. Come on. 1037 00:55:40,933 --> 00:55:42,067 Come on, you're okay. 1038 00:55:42,067 --> 00:55:42,967 You're okay. 1039 00:55:42,967 --> 00:55:44,133 Come on baby. 1040 00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:45,933 Come on babe, you can do it. 1041 00:55:45,933 --> 00:55:46,500 Come on babe. 1042 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:47,967 Come on out. 1043 00:55:47,967 --> 00:55:50,067 Come on. Come on baby. 1044 00:55:50,067 --> 00:55:51,667 Come on, keep breathing. 1045 00:55:51,667 --> 00:55:54,200 Come on, come on...The vaccination gave her severe 1046 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,833 brain damage, and she had seizures every day for the rest 1047 00:55:56,833 --> 00:56:00,133 of her life until she died in my arms at the age of 15. 1048 00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:03,100 >> There is no good reason to choose not to get a vaccine. 1049 00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:06,767 >> He got his MMR, and he got his DTP, 1050 00:56:06,767 --> 00:56:08,900 and within days, he stopped talking. 1051 00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:11,067 >> Projectile vomiting, convulsions. 1052 00:56:11,067 --> 00:56:12,500 >> He went blind in his left eye. 1053 00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:18,267 >> Vaccines took our healthy, happy baby and made him unwell. 1054 00:56:18,267 --> 00:56:20,067 >> She lost all acquired speech. 1055 00:56:20,067 --> 00:56:22,733 >> He lost his speech, he lost his eye contact, 1056 00:56:22,733 --> 00:56:24,200 like the flick of a switch. 1057 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,800 >> If vaccines were unsafe, 1058 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,400 I think this would be an interesting 1059 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,600 and reasonable discussion. 1060 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,400 >> Obviously some minority get hurt by this stuff. 1061 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,100 I don't understand why this is controversial. 1062 00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:35,533 >> Vaccines are safe. 1063 00:56:35,533 --> 00:56:36,833 Get vaccinated. 1064 00:56:36,833 --> 00:56:38,233 >> It's like, you know what? 1065 00:56:38,233 --> 00:56:41,933 Shut the fuck up and let me take every vaccine that Merck wants 1066 00:56:41,933 --> 00:56:43,167 to shove down my throat. 1067 00:56:43,167 --> 00:56:45,767 >> Autism is not a side effect of vaccine, 1068 00:56:45,767 --> 00:56:46,867 or to say it another way, 1069 00:56:46,867 --> 00:56:49,233 because some people don't hear this well, 1070 00:56:49,233 --> 00:56:51,833 vaccines do not cause autism. 1071 00:56:51,833 --> 00:56:52,967 >> Hear this well. 1072 00:56:52,967 --> 00:56:54,067 >> Hear this well. 1073 00:56:54,067 --> 00:56:54,900 >> Please hear this well. 1074 00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:55,933 >> Here this well. 1075 00:56:55,933 --> 00:56:58,867 >> Vaccines can and do cause autism. 1076 00:56:58,867 --> 00:57:00,200 >> My granddaughter Lilly... 1077 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,067 >> My daughter... 1078 00:57:01,067 --> 00:57:02,600 >> My son was fully vaccinated. 1079 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,767 >> My son, Jackson. 1080 00:57:03,767 --> 00:57:06,067 >> I had a healthy, typically developing boy. 1081 00:57:06,067 --> 00:57:08,067 >> Please, hear this well. 1082 00:57:08,067 --> 00:57:09,800 >> Vaccines cause autism. 1083 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,633 >> One day, everyone will know the truth about vaccines. 1084 00:57:13,633 --> 00:57:15,900 Hear this well. 1085 00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:23,267 >> I honestly think the most interesting results are the 1086 00:57:23,267 --> 00:57:25,533 elevated ones, for the isolated, 1087 00:57:25,533 --> 00:57:28,733 ones that don't have other co-morbid conditions. 1088 00:57:28,733 --> 00:57:31,633 The effect is where you think it would happen. 1089 00:57:31,633 --> 00:57:36,367 >> In isolated autism, he saw a very, very strong effect, 1090 00:57:36,367 --> 00:57:39,567 specific to those kids that got the MMR on time. 1091 00:57:39,567 --> 00:57:42,833 When Bill Thompson ran those numbers, 1092 00:57:42,833 --> 00:57:45,167 he saw an astronomical effect. 1093 00:57:45,167 --> 00:57:46,933 Some of the numbers were actually-- 1094 00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:52,567 the relative risks were as high as 7 or 8 times higher 1095 00:57:52,567 --> 00:57:55,067 with these kids that were diagnosed 1096 00:57:55,067 --> 00:57:59,167 with just isolated autism, no other diagnosis, 1097 00:57:59,167 --> 00:58:01,133 versus those controls. 1098 00:58:01,133 --> 00:58:05,567 >> Isolated autism is confusing, because it sounds small, 1099 00:58:05,567 --> 00:58:07,733 but it really is a big problem. 1100 00:58:07,733 --> 00:58:12,633 Because all healthy children no matter what race, are at risk. 1101 00:58:12,633 --> 00:58:16,567 For example, my sister is 18 months old, and she is supposed 1102 00:58:16,567 --> 00:58:18,833 to get her MMR shot right now. 1103 00:58:18,833 --> 00:58:23,067 But if she does, she is seven times more likely to get autism 1104 00:58:23,067 --> 00:58:27,767 than if my parents wait until after 3 years old. 1105 00:58:27,767 --> 00:58:31,133 So I hope my parents don't do it. 1106 00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:33,667 >> Here's what's really scary. 1107 00:58:33,667 --> 00:58:36,200 When we look at isolated autism, we see that there is 1108 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,533 up to a seven-fold increase in the incidence of autism 1109 00:58:40,533 --> 00:58:43,200 between those that receive the vaccine between 12 1110 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,533 and 18 months, versus those that got it after 3 years old. 1111 00:58:46,533 --> 00:58:48,367 But let's be perfectly clear. 1112 00:58:48,367 --> 00:58:53,100 Every child in the study had received the MMR vaccine. 1113 00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,267 What would the numbers be if you compared children 1114 00:58:56,267 --> 00:58:59,700 who got the vaccine between 12 and 18 months versus children 1115 00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:02,633 that never got the vaccine at all. 1116 00:59:02,633 --> 00:59:06,933 This is often referred to as the vax vs. unvax study. 1117 00:59:06,933 --> 00:59:10,267 CDC refuses to do this study. 1118 00:59:10,267 --> 00:59:13,067 Even though every drug that we take has been 1119 00:59:13,067 --> 00:59:14,667 through this exact study. 1120 00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:17,467 There is a group who take the drug, then they compare it 1121 00:59:17,467 --> 00:59:19,100 with a group who do not take the drug, 1122 00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:21,933 and they see there are more side effects and complications 1123 00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,100 with the group that takes the drug. 1124 00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:28,067 So why does the CDC refuse to do the vax vs. unvax study? 1125 00:59:28,067 --> 00:59:32,667 Probably because when we look at the results of this study, 1126 00:59:32,667 --> 00:59:36,700 we realize that the risk would be astronomical, and is likely 1127 00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:40,133 to be one of the major reasons we're seeing this skyrocketing 1128 00:59:40,133 --> 00:59:43,767 increase of autism, worldwide. 1129 00:59:46,467 --> 00:59:50,233 >> Just like the African American children, 1130 00:59:50,233 --> 00:59:54,700 they went into the room, and they sliced and diced the data, 1131 00:59:54,700 --> 00:59:56,667 in an effort to get rid of that effect. 1132 00:59:56,667 --> 01:00:00,133 This is Coleen Boyle's meeting notes, how they planned 1133 01:00:00,133 --> 01:00:03,367 to present the data by these age groups, that after the fact, 1134 01:00:03,367 --> 01:00:05,733 when the data she writes reformats. 1135 01:00:05,733 --> 01:00:09,967 And then she puts in new age groups. 1136 01:00:09,967 --> 01:00:14,867 Even this failed to achieve the desired effect, 1137 01:00:14,867 --> 01:00:17,767 since in the end, they simply omitted the relevant findings 1138 01:00:17,767 --> 01:00:20,033 from the paper altogether. 1139 01:00:20,033 --> 01:00:22,633 >> I was just looking at that, I'm like, oh my god, 1140 01:00:22,633 --> 01:00:26,667 I cannot believe we did what we did. 1141 01:00:26,667 --> 01:00:28,500 But we did. 1142 01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:29,200 >> Yeah. 1143 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,733 >> So it's all there. 1144 01:00:30,733 --> 01:00:32,133 It's all there. 1145 01:00:32,133 --> 01:00:35,200 >> And you in the health field, you who run our health agencies 1146 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,800 in this country are sitting here today, you have an obligation 1147 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,767 to these kids that you just saw there, to make sure 1148 01:00:42,767 --> 01:00:46,233 that these studies are complete, thorough, 1149 01:00:46,233 --> 01:00:49,600 so that everybody knows that we have all the facts, 1150 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,233 and you don't have that. 1151 01:00:51,233 --> 01:00:53,167 >> One of the things we did because this was 1152 01:00:53,167 --> 01:00:57,167 such an important topic was to have them be sworn in. 1153 01:00:57,167 --> 01:00:58,867 So they were under oath. 1154 01:00:58,867 --> 01:01:02,467 And if they were doctoring the results of a study, 1155 01:01:02,467 --> 01:01:06,200 and they did it deliberately, they committed a felony. 1156 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,633 >> It used to be 1 in 10,000. 1157 01:01:08,633 --> 01:01:14,067 And now it's 1 in more than 250 kids that are being damaged 1158 01:01:14,067 --> 01:01:16,667 in this country, that are autistic. 1159 01:01:17,667 --> 01:01:19,533 Now those kids are going to grow up. 1160 01:01:19,533 --> 01:01:21,367 They aren't going to die. 1161 01:01:21,367 --> 01:01:23,067 It's not like a lot of diseases 1162 01:01:23,067 --> 01:01:25,700 where they get infected, and they drop dead. 1163 01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:28,267 They're going to live to be 50, 60 years old. 1164 01:01:28,267 --> 01:01:31,367 Now, who do you think is going to take care of them? 1165 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,767 It's going to be us. 1166 01:01:33,767 --> 01:01:34,333 All of us. 1167 01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:35,300 The taxpayers. 1168 01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:36,733 And it's going to cost, I think 1169 01:01:36,733 --> 01:01:41,133 as you said Ms. Maloney, trillions of dollars. 1170 01:01:41,133 --> 01:01:43,667 So we can't let the pharmaceutical companies 1171 01:01:43,667 --> 01:01:46,933 and our government cover this mess up today, 1172 01:01:46,933 --> 01:01:50,167 because it ain't going to go away. 1173 01:01:50,167 --> 01:01:53,667 And it's going to cost the taxpayers trillions more 1174 01:01:53,667 --> 01:01:55,467 if we wait around on it. 1175 01:01:55,467 --> 01:01:59,433 And or our FDA and HHS and the health agencies to continue 1176 01:01:59,433 --> 01:02:02,600 to hide behind this façade that there have been studies 1177 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,800 that conclusively prove otherwise, it's just wrong too. 1178 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,767 >> So the CDC wasn't just doing the study inside of a bubble. 1179 01:02:09,767 --> 01:02:11,833 In fact, it was the exact opposite. 1180 01:02:11,833 --> 01:02:13,233 They were under fire. 1181 01:02:13,233 --> 01:02:15,167 You had Congressman Dan Burton in front 1182 01:02:15,167 --> 01:02:18,300 of the Congress demanding answers about mercury 1183 01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:20,933 and the MMR, and vaccine studies, 1184 01:02:20,933 --> 01:02:22,633 and the connection to autism. 1185 01:02:22,633 --> 01:02:24,867 Dave Weldon, Congressman from Florida, 1186 01:02:24,867 --> 01:02:26,367 is reaching out to Julie Gerberding 1187 01:02:26,367 --> 01:02:27,600 with serious complaints 1188 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,433 on how he thinks this entire issue has been handled. 1189 01:02:30,433 --> 01:02:34,133 On top of that, the Department of Justice is requesting files 1190 01:02:34,133 --> 01:02:37,433 and data from the CBC because of a previous study called the 1191 01:02:37,433 --> 01:02:40,467 Verstraeton study, that had so may anomalies, 1192 01:02:40,467 --> 01:02:42,900 it looked like scientific fraud was taking place. 1193 01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:44,467 So they were suspicious. 1194 01:02:44,467 --> 01:02:48,400 So then you look at the emails that Thompson provided to us, 1195 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,533 and you see that he is reaching out to his line manager, 1196 01:02:51,533 --> 01:02:56,100 Dr. Melinda Wharton, throwing up red flags, saying "I first spoke 1197 01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:59,733 with you in September of 2002 regarding the sensitive results 1198 01:02:59,733 --> 01:03:03,800 we have been struggling with in the MMR autism study." 1199 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,300 How do you struggle with scientific results? 1200 01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:09,100 I mean, facts are facts. 1201 01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,500 Data are data. 1202 01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:12,800 That doesn't make any sense. 1203 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,533 So you've got Dan Burton breathing down their necks. 1204 01:03:15,533 --> 01:03:18,333 The Department of Justice is requesting files, 1205 01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:22,833 and William Thompson finds out that Coleen Boyle has brought 1206 01:03:22,833 --> 01:03:27,433 in a lawyer to help her decide what materials are too sensitive 1207 01:03:27,433 --> 01:03:29,900 to provide to the Department of Justice. 1208 01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:33,533 This obviously freaks William Thompson out, because later 1209 01:03:33,533 --> 01:03:35,933 in the email to Wharton, he says 1210 01:03:35,933 --> 01:03:39,067 "I will be hiring my own personal attorney." 1211 01:03:39,067 --> 01:03:41,633 And it's extremely unfortunate that we need to be concerned 1212 01:03:41,633 --> 01:03:45,333 that our own legal rights are covered when participating 1213 01:03:45,333 --> 01:03:46,900 in a study such as this. 1214 01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:49,433 I mean, what's going on here? 1215 01:03:49,433 --> 01:03:53,467 We have government scientists, lawyering up, 1216 01:03:53,467 --> 01:03:56,233 over a children's safety study. 1217 01:03:56,233 --> 01:04:00,067 Clearly this does not sit well at all with Dr. Thompson. 1218 01:04:00,067 --> 01:04:01,633 Because at the end of this email, 1219 01:04:01,633 --> 01:04:04,867 he makes what looks to be a clear threat. 1220 01:04:04,867 --> 01:04:07,133 "My level of concern has also caused me 1221 01:04:07,133 --> 01:04:10,467 to seriously consider removing myself as an author 1222 01:04:10,467 --> 01:04:12,300 on the draft manuscript." 1223 01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:14,600 So then a few days later, Thompson writes directly 1224 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,433 to Dr. Walter Orenstein, head 1225 01:04:17,433 --> 01:04:19,933 of The National Immunization Program, 1226 01:04:19,933 --> 01:04:23,867 saying "I am not interested in taking all of the political heat 1227 01:04:23,867 --> 01:04:26,800 that will go along with that study." 1228 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,433 Thompson has gone all the way to the top of his department. 1229 01:04:31,433 --> 01:04:36,300 I mean, we don't ever get a response from Walter Orenstein, 1230 01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:40,700 but Thompson is very clear on what happened next. 1231 01:04:44,067 --> 01:04:47,300 >> The higher ups wanted to do certain things, 1232 01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:48,767 and I went along with it. 1233 01:04:48,767 --> 01:04:53,067 In terms of chain of command, I was number four out of five. 1234 01:04:53,067 --> 01:04:56,067 >> Dr. Thompson talked about destruction of documents, 1235 01:04:56,067 --> 01:04:59,733 and that in Fall of 2002, there was a meeting 1236 01:04:59,733 --> 01:05:01,067 with the trash can rolled in, 1237 01:05:01,067 --> 01:05:03,700 and they selected documents to be destroyed. 1238 01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:06,767 >> I led all the analyses with the DeStefano thing, 1239 01:05:06,767 --> 01:05:10,067 literally everyone else got rid of all their documents, 1240 01:05:10,067 --> 01:05:12,233 so the only documents that exist right now 1241 01:05:12,233 --> 01:05:13,667 from that study are mine. 1242 01:05:13,667 --> 01:05:16,400 >> These documents were no doubt federal records. 1243 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,067 They were very important documents, 1244 01:05:18,067 --> 01:05:20,167 because they showed a very strong statistically 1245 01:05:20,167 --> 01:05:21,400 significant effect. 1246 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,333 >> He felt that quite rightly it would be illegal 1247 01:05:23,333 --> 01:05:25,133 to destroy those documents. 1248 01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:28,400 And so in his office, he kept not only the hard copies, 1249 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,600 but the computerized files for that study. 1250 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:36,067 >> There was a dramatically different result presented 1251 01:05:36,067 --> 01:05:40,700 before and after the time frame that Thompson alleged 1252 01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:42,733 that these data were destroyed. 1253 01:05:42,733 --> 01:05:47,267 If I never had the documents before October 2002, 1254 01:05:47,267 --> 01:05:50,200 there would be nothing that would show 1255 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,800 that they actually had the results in hand, 1256 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,333 and they decided to destroy those results. 1257 01:05:55,333 --> 01:05:59,467 I filed a formal complaint to the Office of Research Integrity 1258 01:05:59,467 --> 01:06:01,833 and the Department of Health and Human Services. 1259 01:06:01,833 --> 01:06:05,100 I heard back not long after the complaint was filed, 1260 01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:09,067 and the letter basically stated that every co-author, 1261 01:06:09,067 --> 01:06:12,667 except for Dr. Thompson, denied that any 1262 01:06:12,667 --> 01:06:14,500 such meeting was scheduled, 1263 01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:18,467 they denied that any material was destroyed or thrown away. 1264 01:06:18,467 --> 01:06:20,867 They were calling Dr. Thompson a liar. 1265 01:06:20,867 --> 01:06:22,933 It was their word against his. 1266 01:06:22,933 --> 01:06:26,200 Dr. Thompson predicted that this would happen. 1267 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,833 >> There are things I haven't even shared with you 1268 01:06:28,833 --> 01:06:34,067 because I can't prove it, and that's what I struggle with. 1269 01:06:34,067 --> 01:06:36,733 I don't want to share things with you that I can't prove. 1270 01:06:36,733 --> 01:06:42,700 That there aren't hard records of, because I am worried 1271 01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:45,300 that the other four people will collude 1272 01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:47,333 and say no that's not true. 1273 01:06:47,333 --> 01:06:50,533 >> Dr. Thompson provided meeting notes to me 1274 01:06:50,533 --> 01:06:53,933 for precisely the time where the co-authors are claiming 1275 01:06:53,933 --> 01:06:56,600 that no meeting took place. 1276 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,767 >> That's what I keep seeing again and again and again. 1277 01:06:59,767 --> 01:07:05,633 Where these senior people just do completely unethical vile 1278 01:07:05,633 --> 01:07:07,733 things, and no one holds them accountable. 1279 01:07:07,733 --> 01:07:08,800 >> So look. 1280 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,967 Once you have the data, a scientific study 1281 01:07:10,967 --> 01:07:13,867 like this is a relatively simple process. 1282 01:07:13,867 --> 01:07:16,333 You just run the data, you get the results, 1283 01:07:16,333 --> 01:07:18,900 and then you publish those results in a paper. 1284 01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:20,400 In their own analysis plan, 1285 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,233 this study was only supposed to take six months. 1286 01:07:23,233 --> 01:07:27,067 From May 2001 to December 2001. 1287 01:07:27,067 --> 01:07:29,567 So if they weren't destroying data, 1288 01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:33,833 why did this study end up taking four years? 1289 01:07:33,833 --> 01:07:35,367 The question everybody needs 1290 01:07:35,367 --> 01:07:38,933 to be asking the CDC is what the heck happened 1291 01:07:38,933 --> 01:07:44,933 between October 2002 and February of 2004? 1292 01:07:44,933 --> 01:07:47,633 >> The reason you don't see anything else circulating 1293 01:07:47,633 --> 01:07:49,833 on this study, it was five of us, 1294 01:07:49,833 --> 01:07:52,733 behind closed doors, for two years. 1295 01:07:52,733 --> 01:07:54,067 >> Wow. 1296 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,867 >> So after two years of secret meetings behind closed doors, 1297 01:07:58,867 --> 01:08:02,700 DeStefano emerges with the final draft of the MMR study, 1298 01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:06,233 and they're going to present it to the Institute of Medicine. 1299 01:08:06,233 --> 01:08:12,167 >> People on the IOM move from industry, government, academia, 1300 01:08:12,167 --> 01:08:15,500 government, industry, and they bounce around. 1301 01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:17,867 It's all the same people, 1302 01:08:17,867 --> 01:08:21,333 and there wasn't a really good policeman in all of this, 1303 01:08:21,333 --> 01:08:24,633 to really make sure that the vaccine safety studies are done 1304 01:08:24,633 --> 01:08:27,633 properly and that they're done objectively. 1305 01:08:27,633 --> 01:08:28,933 It just didn't seem to me 1306 01:08:28,933 --> 01:08:32,967 like we were running a system that was credible. 1307 01:08:32,967 --> 01:08:35,800 I had written to Julie Gerberding, and I asked her 1308 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,567 to postpone the February 9th Institute of Medicine meeting. 1309 01:08:39,567 --> 01:08:42,367 This report, the Institute of Medicine Report I wanted 1310 01:08:42,367 --> 01:08:47,867 to postpone because my concern that this was not an exercise 1311 01:08:47,867 --> 01:08:49,800 in discovering the truth, 1312 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,633 but was instead a meeting being driven by a desire 1313 01:08:52,633 --> 01:08:54,933 to short-circuit important research 1314 01:08:54,933 --> 01:08:57,733 and draw premature conclusions. 1315 01:08:57,733 --> 01:09:00,200 >> The problem is, William Thompson being the lead 1316 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,667 scientist, he is going to have to present their findings. 1317 01:09:04,667 --> 01:09:06,433 And he's not happy about it. 1318 01:09:06,433 --> 01:09:09,933 In fact, he's so upset, that he goes above the lead author, 1319 01:09:09,933 --> 01:09:12,933 DeStefano, above Walter Orenstein, 1320 01:09:12,933 --> 01:09:16,767 all the way to the Head of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding. 1321 01:09:16,767 --> 01:09:19,067 And in an email he says, 1322 01:09:31,267 --> 01:09:34,500 basically saying "I'm not going to continue this lie. 1323 01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:38,333 If you put me up there, I'm going to tell the truth." 1324 01:09:38,333 --> 01:09:42,533 >> Thompson was originally scheduled to provide a briefing, 1325 01:09:42,533 --> 01:09:45,800 because he basically told Director Gerberding 1326 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,833 that he would have to say that there is a causal association. 1327 01:09:49,833 --> 01:09:53,500 He was switched at the last minute with Frank DeStefano, 1328 01:09:53,500 --> 01:09:56,600 who was able to report to the IOM falsely 1329 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,267 that we have found no association 1330 01:09:58,267 --> 01:10:01,033 between MMR and autism. 1331 01:10:01,033 --> 01:10:03,533 >> The IOM was the point of no return. 1332 01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:06,033 And so deprived of the truth, 1333 01:10:06,033 --> 01:10:09,367 the IOM declared MMR vaccine safe. 1334 01:10:09,367 --> 01:10:13,933 >> It was a rush to judgment, to shut the door, permanently 1335 01:10:13,933 --> 01:10:18,067 and completely, on the MMR autism link. 1336 01:10:18,067 --> 01:10:21,433 It is absolutely appalling that much of what I said turned 1337 01:10:21,433 --> 01:10:23,800 out exactly to be true. 1338 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,267 They were trying to short-circuit the research. 1339 01:10:27,267 --> 01:10:30,233 >> It's the lowest, you know, the lowest point in my career, 1340 01:10:30,233 --> 01:10:32,033 that I went along with that paper. 1341 01:10:32,033 --> 01:10:35,533 >> After their brilliant work on the MMR study, DeStefano 1342 01:10:35,533 --> 01:10:38,300 and his team received an award from the Department 1343 01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:40,233 of Health and Human Services. 1344 01:10:40,233 --> 01:10:42,267 And then several years later, 1345 01:10:42,267 --> 01:10:45,500 Dr. Julie Gerberding received an award of her own. 1346 01:10:45,500 --> 01:10:50,900 A high paid job as head of the vaccine division at Merck. 1347 01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:55,400 Clearly, Merck appreciated the work she had done investigating 1348 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,133 their vaccine. 1349 01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:07,633 >> Just to let you know, I wrote a paper on my results on MMR. 1350 01:11:07,633 --> 01:11:08,900 >> Yes? 1351 01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:12,600 >> And it will include something that I got from you. 1352 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,533 >> Brian was about to publish a paper using data 1353 01:11:15,533 --> 01:11:18,133 that could only have come from an inside source 1354 01:11:18,133 --> 01:11:20,167 in the CDC, a whistle-blower. 1355 01:11:20,167 --> 01:11:21,567 And from that point forward, 1356 01:11:21,567 --> 01:11:23,767 William Thompson was a marked man. 1357 01:11:23,767 --> 01:11:28,367 >> Andy approached me and said it's time 1358 01:11:28,367 --> 01:11:31,067 to publicize the CDC whistle-blower. 1359 01:11:31,067 --> 01:11:32,333 >> Ironically 12 years later, 1360 01:11:32,333 --> 01:11:36,567 while Thompson is bearing his soul to Brian Hooker, 1361 01:11:36,567 --> 01:11:40,333 in front of Congress Coleen Boyle is just peddling the same 1362 01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:42,400 old CDC fraud. 1363 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,300 But this time, it's to a new player. 1364 01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:47,400 And that is Congressman Bill Posey from Florida. 1365 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,667 >> I wonder if the CDC has conducted 1366 01:11:49,667 --> 01:11:53,400 or facilitated a study comparing vaccinated children 1367 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,867 with unvaccinated children yet? 1368 01:11:54,867 --> 01:11:56,167 Have you done that? 1369 01:11:56,167 --> 01:11:58,567 >> We have actually done a number of studies looking 1370 01:11:58,567 --> 01:12:03,367 at the relationship between Thiomerisol vaccines and autism, 1371 01:12:03,367 --> 01:12:05,133 and other developmental disabilities. 1372 01:12:05,133 --> 01:12:08,333 >> The lies from the CDC were still the same. 1373 01:12:08,333 --> 01:12:11,733 The difference now is we had William Thompson. 1374 01:12:11,733 --> 01:12:15,467 >> Vaccines and their components did not increase the risk 1375 01:12:15,467 --> 01:12:16,867 for autism. 1376 01:12:16,867 --> 01:12:20,467 >> But my time is very limited here, so clearly, definitely, 1377 01:12:20,467 --> 01:12:26,367 unequivocally, you have studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated? 1378 01:12:26,367 --> 01:12:28,733 >> We have not studied vaccinated 1379 01:12:28,733 --> 01:12:30,833 versus unvaccinated, as you-- 1380 01:12:30,833 --> 01:12:32,067 >> Never mind, that is just not there, 1381 01:12:32,067 --> 01:12:33,433 that is the meaning of my question. 1382 01:12:33,433 --> 01:12:35,067 You've wasted two minutes of my time. 1383 01:12:35,067 --> 01:12:37,867 >> Brian had also submitted a related paper 1384 01:12:37,867 --> 01:12:39,867 to a journal called Nature Neuroscience. 1385 01:12:39,867 --> 01:12:42,500 And in that paper, he had specifically referred 1386 01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:44,600 to an unnamed source at the CDC. 1387 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,067 And my worst fears were realized, when a journalist 1388 01:12:48,067 --> 01:12:50,867 from Nature Neuroscience contacted the CDC, 1389 01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:53,533 contacted Walter Orenstein, the message went 1390 01:12:53,533 --> 01:12:57,667 on to Frank DeStefano, who sent it out to the co-authors saying, 1391 01:12:57,667 --> 01:12:58,800 "Keep your heads down. 1392 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,567 This may be coming your way." 1393 01:13:01,567 --> 01:13:04,467 >> The fear was all of a sudden we'd be dredging a river 1394 01:13:04,467 --> 01:13:05,833 for Bill Thompson. 1395 01:13:05,833 --> 01:13:08,800 >> So I said to him, Brian, we've got to do three things. 1396 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,100 We have got to get Thompson a whistle-blower lawyer. 1397 01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:15,700 We have got to make sure that his documents are with Posey, 1398 01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:18,533 and we've got to reveal his name. 1399 01:13:18,533 --> 01:13:23,567 Whistle-blowers are in danger only as long as the only people 1400 01:13:23,567 --> 01:13:27,067 who know their identity are their enemies. 1401 01:13:30,067 --> 01:13:32,700 >> Do vaccines cause autism? 1402 01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:34,400 In the last 30 years, 1403 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,667 the childhood vaccine schedule has tripled, 1404 01:13:37,667 --> 01:13:40,833 while the U.S. autism rate has skyrocketed 1405 01:13:40,833 --> 01:13:44,700 from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50. 1406 01:13:44,700 --> 01:13:49,367 Dozens of published research papers show that yes, vaccines 1407 01:13:49,367 --> 01:13:51,733 and autism are linked. 1408 01:13:51,733 --> 01:13:53,167 Yet, the debate rages on, 1409 01:13:53,167 --> 01:13:57,200 in part because of a 1986 National Childhood Vaccine 1410 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,367 Injury Act, passed by Congress, as the result 1411 01:14:00,367 --> 01:14:02,467 of pharmaceutical lobbying. 1412 01:14:02,467 --> 01:14:05,433 It shields drug companies from liability for injuries 1413 01:14:05,433 --> 01:14:09,367 and deaths caused by the vaccines they manufacture. 1414 01:14:09,367 --> 01:14:12,400 Vaccines that the federal government admits are 1415 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,767 unavoidably unsafe. 1416 01:14:14,767 --> 01:14:17,600 Instead of suing the pharmaceutical company directly, 1417 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,467 parents are forced to petition the Department of Health 1418 01:14:20,467 --> 01:14:21,567 and Human Services, 1419 01:14:21,567 --> 01:14:24,767 and if federal officials oppose compensation, 1420 01:14:24,767 --> 01:14:27,800 the case is argued before a special master 1421 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,800 in the U.S. Claims Court. 1422 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,900 Many refer to this as vaccine court. 1423 01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:35,100 Here are some shocking facts 1424 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,933 about the so-called vaccine court. 1425 01:14:37,933 --> 01:14:41,067 Pharmaceutical companies do not have to participate 1426 01:14:41,067 --> 01:14:43,133 in the proceedings at all. 1427 01:14:43,133 --> 01:14:47,067 Taxpayers pay for all damages. 1428 01:14:47,067 --> 01:14:50,533 The U.S. Department of Justice acts as a government's lawyer, 1429 01:14:50,533 --> 01:14:54,167 with taxpayers footing the bill for their defense. 1430 01:14:58,067 --> 01:15:00,967 >> Beginning in 2002, there were already thousands 1431 01:15:00,967 --> 01:15:04,900 of cases accumulating in vaccine court, 1432 01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,867 and the average compensation for an autistic child is 1433 01:15:07,867 --> 01:15:12,067 in the range of $5 million dollars, so just do the math. 1434 01:15:12,067 --> 01:15:14,667 The government was facing several hundred billion, 1435 01:15:14,667 --> 01:15:17,167 possibly a trillion dollars in liability 1436 01:15:17,167 --> 01:15:19,300 as the autism epidemic grew. 1437 01:15:19,300 --> 01:15:24,367 They had to develop a fraudulent study that would exonerate MMR 1438 01:15:24,367 --> 01:15:27,867 to deliberately defeat the cases in vaccine court, 1439 01:15:27,867 --> 01:15:29,433 to avoid paying the trillion dollars. 1440 01:15:29,433 --> 01:15:34,100 So the thousands of autism petitioners were denied their 1441 01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:37,533 fair day in court by a corrupt 1442 01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:40,233 and deliberate obstruction of justice. 1443 01:15:40,233 --> 01:15:45,833 It's one of the most unethical medical decisions of all time, 1444 01:15:45,833 --> 01:15:47,433 because it was made with knowledge 1445 01:15:47,433 --> 01:15:51,567 to sacrifice these children as a direct affront 1446 01:15:51,567 --> 01:15:55,067 to the Congressional Mandate that they all be compensated. 1447 01:16:08,067 --> 01:16:09,900 >> In the fall of last year, I got a call 1448 01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:13,300 from an inside source, who told me that in two weeks, 1449 01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:16,367 there's going to be a whistle blower from the CDC who is going 1450 01:16:16,367 --> 01:16:19,633 to come out and say that the CDC had committed fraud 1451 01:16:19,633 --> 01:16:22,533 on the MMR study and that they knew 1452 01:16:22,533 --> 01:16:26,067 that vaccines were actually causing autism. 1453 01:16:26,067 --> 01:16:28,633 I mean, that's a huge story. 1454 01:16:28,633 --> 01:16:31,267 Unfortunately it was a story I would not be able to tell 1455 01:16:31,267 --> 01:16:34,067 on a medical talk show, because a lot of our funding was coming 1456 01:16:34,067 --> 01:16:35,400 from the pharmaceutical industry, 1457 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,867 and we were also very good friends with the CDC, 1458 01:16:37,867 --> 01:16:41,233 who had appeared on our show many times. 1459 01:16:41,233 --> 01:16:45,800 But I knew that once this story broke, two weeks later, 1460 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,167 that the mainstream news media would pick it up. 1461 01:16:48,167 --> 01:16:49,333 Fox would be on it. 1462 01:16:49,333 --> 01:16:50,767 CNN would be on it. 1463 01:16:50,767 --> 01:16:54,167 MSNBC, and we're talking about the biggest medical story 1464 01:16:54,167 --> 01:16:56,300 in the last decade or two at least. 1465 01:16:56,300 --> 01:16:58,567 So that two weeks came. 1466 01:16:58,567 --> 01:17:01,400 I saw the video that was posted by Andrew Wakefield 1467 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,367 and Brian Hooker, and I heard the words 1468 01:17:03,367 --> 01:17:06,100 of William Thompson and his confession. 1469 01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:11,067 >> Oh my god, I cannot believe we did what we did. 1470 01:17:11,067 --> 01:17:13,100 But we did. 1471 01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:13,933 It's all there. 1472 01:17:13,933 --> 01:17:15,300 It's all there. 1473 01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:20,067 >> And I watched the Blogosphere go crazy, tweets, Facebook, 1474 01:17:20,067 --> 01:17:23,067 social media, everybody talking about it. 1475 01:17:23,067 --> 01:17:28,067 But not one mainstream media source went anywhere near 1476 01:17:28,067 --> 01:17:29,067 the story. 1477 01:17:29,067 --> 01:17:31,100 In fact, on CNN someone put the story 1478 01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:35,133 up on iReport, and CNN took it down. 1479 01:17:35,133 --> 01:17:39,433 And at that moment, I realized wait a minute. 1480 01:17:39,433 --> 01:17:42,300 Not only is my medical talk show being produced 1481 01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:47,367 by the pharmaceutical industry, all of television is. 1482 01:17:47,367 --> 01:17:49,433 We were never going to get this story. 1483 01:17:49,433 --> 01:17:54,733 But we certainly did get a story. 1484 01:17:54,733 --> 01:17:56,933 >> A highly contagious measles outbreak. 1485 01:17:56,933 --> 01:17:57,900 >> Major outbreak. 1486 01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:58,900 >> Measles outbreaks. 1487 01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:01,067 >> Measles on the march in America. 1488 01:18:01,067 --> 01:18:03,233 >> This outbreak is showing no signs of letting up. 1489 01:18:03,233 --> 01:18:05,533 >> But in 2014, the number tripled, 1490 01:18:05,533 --> 01:18:10,167 to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states. 1491 01:18:10,167 --> 01:18:15,367 >> It's really amazing to consider the number of cases 1492 01:18:15,367 --> 01:18:18,067 of autism every year, and to contrast 1493 01:18:18,067 --> 01:18:22,767 that to let's say the number of children who acquired measles 1494 01:18:22,767 --> 01:18:24,267 by going to Disneyland. 1495 01:18:24,267 --> 01:18:29,067 It's a tiny number of children who acquired measles, 1496 01:18:29,067 --> 01:18:33,133 and it's a vast number of children who are being diagnosed 1497 01:18:33,133 --> 01:18:35,233 with autism every day. 1498 01:18:36,867 --> 01:18:39,733 >> We don't know what causes autism. 1499 01:18:39,733 --> 01:18:40,833 I mean, that's fair to say. 1500 01:18:40,833 --> 01:18:42,067 We are not sure 1501 01:18:42,067 --> 01:18:43,967 in the scientific community what causes autism, 1502 01:18:43,967 --> 01:18:46,667 but we know that vaccines do not. 1503 01:18:46,667 --> 01:18:49,300 >> Now, I'm not saying that Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy. 1504 01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:53,067 In fact, I think that he tries to do a lot of good. 1505 01:18:53,067 --> 01:18:55,433 Just like many doctors do. 1506 01:18:55,433 --> 01:18:58,333 But if they're being lied to by the scientific body 1507 01:18:58,333 --> 01:19:01,067 that provides them with their information, 1508 01:19:01,067 --> 01:19:02,867 what happens to all of us? 1509 01:19:02,867 --> 01:19:08,600 What happens if a good doctor sees the same data that I saw? 1510 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,733 >> So you're a scientist, basically. 1511 01:19:10,733 --> 01:19:12,533 So you're studying this. 1512 01:19:12,533 --> 01:19:15,433 And you feel 100% confident, you even said you have kids, 1513 01:19:15,433 --> 01:19:16,967 so you're a family person. 1514 01:19:16,967 --> 01:19:17,733 >> Yes. 1515 01:19:17,733 --> 01:19:18,667 >> You would feel very... 1516 01:19:18,667 --> 01:19:19,833 >> How long have you been a doctor, 1517 01:19:19,833 --> 01:19:21,867 and sort of what is your area of specialty? 1518 01:19:21,867 --> 01:19:24,667 >> Sure, I've been a family medical physician 1519 01:19:24,667 --> 01:19:26,833 for over 10 years now, in treating families, 1520 01:19:26,833 --> 01:19:28,433 everyone from newborns all the way 1521 01:19:28,433 --> 01:19:31,600 up to my oldest patient is 96. 1522 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,633 >> So do you administer vaccines as part of that? 1523 01:19:34,633 --> 01:19:36,533 >> Yes I do administer vaccines. 1524 01:19:36,533 --> 01:19:39,533 In our clinic, we follow the CDC recommendations, 1525 01:19:39,533 --> 01:19:43,067 and we give that information to our patients, 1526 01:19:43,067 --> 01:19:45,200 and we give them a schedule of when their children are going 1527 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,933 to need to be vaccinated, and so on and so forth. 1528 01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:49,867 >> There's something I want to show you. 1529 01:19:49,867 --> 01:19:53,167 This is the formal complaint about what they've been given 1530 01:19:53,167 --> 01:19:55,833 by William Thompson, as well the CDC. 1531 01:19:55,833 --> 01:19:58,200 Okay? There's all sorts of reference materials 1532 01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,333 in here and things like that. 1533 01:19:59,333 --> 01:20:03,433 I'm just going to give you time to look at it, 1534 01:20:03,433 --> 01:20:05,700 study it as long as you want, okay? 1535 01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:08,067 When you feel like you have a grasp of it, you are going 1536 01:20:08,067 --> 01:20:09,333 to know, it's going to take some time, 1537 01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:10,467 appreciate you taking the time. 1538 01:20:10,467 --> 01:20:11,033 >> All right. 1539 01:20:11,033 --> 01:20:11,467 >> All right? 1540 01:20:11,467 --> 01:20:12,600 Okay. 1541 01:20:14,633 --> 01:20:18,800 >> So I have sent you what William Thompson has said is the 1542 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,500 fraud at the CDC. 1543 01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:23,000 All of that data that was missing. 1544 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,867 Did you get a chance to really look it over? 1545 01:20:26,867 --> 01:20:29,300 >> It's really unbelievable. 1546 01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:34,867 How blatantly the data was switched around. 1547 01:20:34,867 --> 01:20:37,867 It made me question whether or not this organization 1548 01:20:37,867 --> 01:20:41,267 that has been mandating how I practice medicine 1549 01:20:41,267 --> 01:20:44,633 for the past 10 years, if they're lying about this, 1550 01:20:44,633 --> 01:20:47,700 they're leaving data out about this particular study-- 1551 01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:52,033 what else am I being lied to about? 1552 01:20:53,867 --> 01:20:55,667 >> I'm still trying to digest it. 1553 01:20:55,667 --> 01:20:59,900 Because this study, which was used to kind 1554 01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:04,967 of give the definitive answer to us pediatricians, that oh, 1555 01:21:04,967 --> 01:21:08,367 the MMR is not related to autism, 1556 01:21:08,367 --> 01:21:09,067 I kind of feel 1557 01:21:09,067 --> 01:21:10,767 like I've been lied to. 1558 01:21:10,767 --> 01:21:13,400 When they set out to do the study, they wanted to look 1559 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,067 at the data, and interpret the data, but then there is a piece 1560 01:21:17,067 --> 01:21:20,267 of data that they chose to ignore. 1561 01:21:20,267 --> 01:21:24,600 The data they excluded was really, really significant. 1562 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,233 >> Think about it. 1563 01:21:25,233 --> 01:21:26,633 It is a big deal. 1564 01:21:26,633 --> 01:21:31,400 It is a big deal for a physician to have to deal with the fact 1565 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,400 that for the past 10, 20 years, 1566 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,500 we've been potentially destroying the brains 1567 01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:39,600 of children. 1568 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,067 >> Everything I've been telling my patients 1569 01:21:41,067 --> 01:21:48,067 for the last 10 years has been based on a lie and a cover up. 1570 01:21:48,067 --> 01:21:49,233 >> Parents making decisions 1571 01:21:49,233 --> 01:21:51,200 about their children's health deserve 1572 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,900 to have the best information available to them. 1573 01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:56,267 They should be able to count on federal agencies 1574 01:21:56,267 --> 01:21:58,867 to tell them the truth. 1575 01:21:58,867 --> 01:22:00,900 >> Once Brian and I had outed Bill Thompson, 1576 01:22:00,900 --> 01:22:03,533 he got himself a whistle-blower lawyer, he provided all 1577 01:22:03,533 --> 01:22:05,933 of his documents on the fraudulent CDC study 1578 01:22:05,933 --> 01:22:09,067 to Congressman Posey, who then went before the Congress. 1579 01:22:09,067 --> 01:22:11,900 >> Considering the nature of the whistle blower's documents, 1580 01:22:11,900 --> 01:22:15,333 as well as the involvement of the CDC, a hearing 1581 01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:18,767 and a thorough investigation is warranted. 1582 01:22:18,767 --> 01:22:24,067 So I ask Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues 1583 01:22:24,067 --> 01:22:26,567 on the Appropriations Committees to please, 1584 01:22:26,567 --> 01:22:27,933 please take such action. 1585 01:22:27,933 --> 01:22:30,533 Thank you Mr. Speaker, I yield back. 1586 01:22:30,533 --> 01:22:31,867 >> It's now been 7 months 1587 01:22:31,867 --> 01:22:34,767 since Congressman Bill Posey urged the Congress 1588 01:22:34,767 --> 01:22:38,833 to subpoena Bill Thompson, and they have done nothing. 1589 01:22:38,833 --> 01:22:42,300 >> Bill Thompson wants to be subpoenaed by Congress. 1590 01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:45,733 As a CDC employee from the federal government, 1591 01:22:45,733 --> 01:22:48,633 he cannot speak voluntarily 1592 01:22:48,633 --> 01:22:50,433 because of the threat of jail time. 1593 01:22:50,433 --> 01:22:54,833 >> Absolutely, William Thompson needs to go before Congress. 1594 01:22:54,833 --> 01:22:57,067 He needs to go before the whole nation. 1595 01:22:57,067 --> 01:23:00,367 Everybody needs to see what he has to say. 1596 01:23:00,367 --> 01:23:02,533 >> He needs to be deposed in front 1597 01:23:02,533 --> 01:23:03,833 of a committee in Congress. 1598 01:23:03,833 --> 01:23:07,733 And Julie Gerberding has to be brought in and deposed. 1599 01:23:07,733 --> 01:23:11,167 Because this is a very, very, very disturbing revelation. 1600 01:23:11,167 --> 01:23:14,067 For this researcher to come forward and be saying now 1601 01:23:14,067 --> 01:23:18,133 that they were indeed deliberately concealing critical 1602 01:23:18,133 --> 01:23:21,533 information about an MMR autism link-- 1603 01:23:21,533 --> 01:23:24,433 horrible, horrible development. 1604 01:23:24,433 --> 01:23:27,133 >> Deviation from an analysis plan. 1605 01:23:27,133 --> 01:23:29,700 Omission of crucial data. 1606 01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:31,833 Destruction of documents. 1607 01:23:31,833 --> 01:23:34,333 Obstruction of justice. 1608 01:23:34,333 --> 01:23:36,300 Misleading the Congress. 1609 01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:39,767 Grievous harm to innocent children. 1610 01:23:39,767 --> 01:23:42,567 This has to be investigated. 1611 01:23:42,567 --> 01:23:43,867 >> You and I are in agreement. 1612 01:23:43,867 --> 01:23:46,367 Vaccine safety should not be in the CDC. 1613 01:23:46,367 --> 01:23:47,200 >> Absolutely. 1614 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,867 You would end up with an agency 1615 01:23:48,867 --> 01:23:51,800 like the National Transportation Safety Board. 1616 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,733 >> The next thing they need to do is somebody needs 1617 01:23:54,733 --> 01:23:57,367 to reintroduce the Weldon-Maloney Bill. 1618 01:23:57,367 --> 01:24:00,067 It needs to be very, very quickly enacted, and you need 1619 01:24:00,067 --> 01:24:03,500 to take all of the vaccine safety responsibilities 1620 01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:04,700 out of the CDC. 1621 01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:08,933 >> These children have been maimed by the actions 1622 01:24:08,933 --> 01:24:11,333 of Coleen Boyle, Frank DeStefano, 1623 01:24:11,333 --> 01:24:14,533 Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, and Tanya Bhasin. 1624 01:24:14,533 --> 01:24:18,433 My son has been debilitated for 17 years. 1625 01:24:18,433 --> 01:24:22,100 I think jail time is too good for these individuals 1626 01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:24,300 who have perpetrated such fraud. 1627 01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:29,067 >> The notion of vaccinating children, protecting children 1628 01:24:29,067 --> 01:24:33,133 against serious infectious disease with vaccines 1629 01:24:33,133 --> 01:24:38,067 that are safe and effective is laudable. 1630 01:24:38,067 --> 01:24:41,100 You hear about measles outbreaks in Disneyland, 1631 01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:43,433 and then they try and sell you MMR. 1632 01:24:43,433 --> 01:24:47,200 We didn't see autism being reported as a consequence 1633 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,333 of the single vaccine, only of the triple vaccine. 1634 01:24:50,333 --> 01:24:52,600 So my feeling is that we need 1635 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,067 to review vaccination policy across the board. 1636 01:24:56,067 --> 01:24:57,633 But in the first instance, 1637 01:24:57,633 --> 01:25:01,833 I do believe we can make the problem far less 1638 01:25:01,833 --> 01:25:04,467 if we separate those vaccines 1639 01:25:04,467 --> 01:25:08,867 out into their single measles, mumps and rubella. 1640 01:25:08,867 --> 01:25:10,767 >> I just cannot imagine what it will be 1641 01:25:10,767 --> 01:25:12,900 like if we really do face a future 1642 01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:16,333 in which half the children born end up on the autism spectrum. 1643 01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:18,667 I mean, it will be so disruptive of the school system. 1644 01:25:18,667 --> 01:25:20,867 There will be so little money to be able to spend 1645 01:25:20,867 --> 01:25:23,500 on the normal children to help them to bring them 1646 01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:25,067 up and to educate them. 1647 01:25:25,067 --> 01:25:27,900 We're just going to have extremely sick children. 1648 01:25:27,900 --> 01:25:32,467 And parents that will be so distracted by the challenge 1649 01:25:32,467 --> 01:25:35,733 of bringing up these children that are so sick 1650 01:25:35,733 --> 01:25:38,667 that our society will not be able to focus on anything else. 1651 01:25:38,667 --> 01:25:40,900 >> The implications of that for our country, 1652 01:25:40,900 --> 01:25:42,567 for our competitiveness as a nation, 1653 01:25:42,567 --> 01:25:45,067 for our economy, are massive. 1654 01:25:45,067 --> 01:25:47,767 They must know, and they do know, 1655 01:25:47,767 --> 01:25:50,367 that there is a national emergency. 1656 01:25:50,367 --> 01:25:52,733 >> I mean this is going to be a complete catastrophe 1657 01:25:52,733 --> 01:25:54,533 if we just let it happen. 1658 01:25:57,067 --> 01:26:01,433 >> What will you say the next time a mother sitting there 1659 01:26:01,433 --> 01:26:06,100 with her baby in her hands says Dr. Rachel, 1660 01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:08,167 is the MMR vaccine safe? 1661 01:26:08,167 --> 01:26:11,367 >> Hm...I'm going to tell her. 1662 01:26:11,367 --> 01:26:15,333 I'm going to say, you know, honestly I'm not going 1663 01:26:15,333 --> 01:26:19,067 to give the MMR vaccine to my babies, and here's why. 1664 01:26:22,500 --> 01:30:41,567 [ Music ] 129898

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