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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,636 --> 00:00:05,070 [ telephone ringing ] 2 00:00:29,263 --> 00:00:34,400 ♪ 3 00:00:34,402 --> 00:00:39,571 ♪ 4 00:00:39,573 --> 00:00:42,574 Carole: There is nothing behind those beady eyes 5 00:00:42,576 --> 00:00:46,845 But an evil, sick man. 6 00:00:46,847 --> 00:00:49,481 I don't want anyone in my family 7 00:00:49,483 --> 00:00:51,450 To run into him on the street. 8 00:00:51,452 --> 00:00:53,886 We made a deal with the devil. 9 00:00:56,824 --> 00:00:59,825 -- Captions by vitac -- www.Vitac.Com 10 00:00:59,827 --> 00:01:02,928 Captions paid for by discovery communications 11 00:01:05,433 --> 00:01:09,701 ♪ 12 00:01:09,703 --> 00:01:13,005 The winner of '85 was a brutally cold winter. 13 00:01:16,210 --> 00:01:20,012 The day of the crime, we had 20, 30 below wind chill factor, 14 00:01:20,014 --> 00:01:23,849 But that day, everything was just bright white snow 15 00:01:23,851 --> 00:01:26,318 And clear as can be. 16 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:34,393 ♪ 17 00:01:34,395 --> 00:01:36,862 [ telephone beeping ] 18 00:01:36,864 --> 00:01:38,430 [ dial tone ring ] 19 00:01:38,432 --> 00:01:39,998 [ busy tone beeping ] [ sighs ] 20 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,567 Come on, dad. 21 00:01:41,569 --> 00:01:46,605 My parents lived on a farm about seven miles out of minot 22 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:49,875 And it's in an isolated location. 23 00:01:49,877 --> 00:01:51,376 Still getting a busy signal? 24 00:01:51,378 --> 00:01:53,612 Yeah. [ sighs ] 25 00:01:53,614 --> 00:01:56,115 It's got to be all the ice and snow. 26 00:01:56,117 --> 00:01:58,016 The storm must've taken down their phone line. 27 00:01:58,018 --> 00:02:00,486 [ hangs up receiver ] 28 00:02:00,488 --> 00:02:04,256 Yeah, you're probably right. 29 00:02:04,258 --> 00:02:07,059 Never could get through on the phone. 30 00:02:07,061 --> 00:02:09,728 [ busy tone beeping ] 31 00:02:12,666 --> 00:02:14,299 That's why we drove out. 32 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:19,505 When you got to the farm, 33 00:02:19,507 --> 00:02:21,306 We both went to the garage door 34 00:02:21,308 --> 00:02:23,208 And that was locked. 35 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:26,211 And they never locked that door. 36 00:02:26,213 --> 00:02:29,047 But I had a key, so I locked that and I went in. 37 00:02:31,285 --> 00:02:36,421 [ breathes heavily ] oh, god. 38 00:02:36,423 --> 00:02:38,357 I figured that there was something wrong 39 00:02:38,359 --> 00:02:42,027 But I never expected anything like this. 40 00:02:42,029 --> 00:02:44,396 In the kitchen, everything was a mess. 41 00:02:44,398 --> 00:02:47,332 Most of the dishes were out on the kitchen floor, 42 00:02:47,334 --> 00:02:50,269 And everything was just smashed, thrown around. 43 00:02:53,107 --> 00:02:54,907 Dad? 44 00:02:54,909 --> 00:02:57,109 Dad, are you here? 45 00:02:57,111 --> 00:03:00,279 There was a tv on in the living room, 46 00:03:00,281 --> 00:03:03,148 And I think that was making some noise, too. 47 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:08,187 [ tv static rushes ] 48 00:03:11,559 --> 00:03:14,126 The whole situation was creepy -- 49 00:03:14,128 --> 00:03:16,028 I mean... 50 00:03:16,030 --> 00:03:17,529 Just hard to describe. 51 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:21,099 [ static continues ] 52 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:23,569 I stepped into the dining room area, 53 00:03:23,571 --> 00:03:25,604 And I could see dad laying on the floor. 54 00:03:25,606 --> 00:03:32,878 ♪ 55 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,914 And he had... 56 00:03:35,916 --> 00:03:39,718 Blood all over the floor. 57 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,389 ♪ 58 00:03:44,391 --> 00:03:46,191 I knew that he was dead. 59 00:03:49,496 --> 00:03:52,297 I can see that as if it happened yesterday. 60 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:57,970 Just stays with you. 61 00:03:57,972 --> 00:04:03,008 ♪ 62 00:04:03,010 --> 00:04:04,009 Mom... 63 00:04:04,011 --> 00:04:07,646 And that's when I turned to check on mom. 64 00:04:07,648 --> 00:04:16,521 ♪ 65 00:04:16,523 --> 00:04:18,724 They just stepped into the bedroom. 66 00:04:18,726 --> 00:04:20,659 She had bullet holes in her. 67 00:04:20,661 --> 00:04:26,798 ♪ 68 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,066 I know my mother was dead 69 00:04:28,068 --> 00:04:31,470 Because of the way she laid there, you know... 70 00:04:31,472 --> 00:04:34,039 Looking up at the ceiling 71 00:04:34,041 --> 00:04:35,641 With her eyes open. 72 00:04:35,643 --> 00:04:40,712 ♪ 73 00:04:40,714 --> 00:04:42,948 Just gone. 74 00:04:46,687 --> 00:04:48,287 Out of emotions. 75 00:04:48,289 --> 00:04:53,859 ♪ 76 00:04:53,861 --> 00:04:59,498 ♪ 77 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:04,202 My mother, cora, and my father, charley. 78 00:05:04,204 --> 00:05:07,606 One thing they lived for was their grandkids and family. 79 00:05:07,608 --> 00:05:09,374 Family was important to them. 80 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:13,712 You're in very good health. 81 00:05:13,714 --> 00:05:15,480 They had a lot of life left in them. 82 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:18,850 I never thought that this would be the last picture. 83 00:05:18,852 --> 00:05:20,585 So, this just wasn't right. 84 00:05:22,556 --> 00:05:24,356 [ police sirens wailing ] 85 00:05:24,358 --> 00:05:27,426 Narrator: Investigators descended on the crime scene. 86 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:31,897 Erck: On Saturday afternoon, when I arrived, 87 00:05:31,899 --> 00:05:35,767 There were several patrol units at the scene already. 88 00:05:35,769 --> 00:05:38,337 Man: There he is -- the residents. 89 00:05:38,339 --> 00:05:42,207 The abernathey house... 90 00:05:42,209 --> 00:05:44,343 Was terrible. 91 00:05:44,345 --> 00:05:49,781 Cora's purse was dumped on the table in the dining room. 92 00:05:49,783 --> 00:05:53,418 That was the first signs of an apparent robbery. 93 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:56,755 Male subject on the floor of the living room area. 94 00:05:56,757 --> 00:05:59,458 Charley had two entrance wounds 95 00:05:59,460 --> 00:06:02,027 To the back of the head. 96 00:06:02,029 --> 00:06:06,732 And his throat was slashed very deep. 97 00:06:06,734 --> 00:06:10,335 There was a lot of blood in that area -- 98 00:06:10,337 --> 00:06:14,106 On the carpet, on his body, up the wall, 99 00:06:14,108 --> 00:06:16,441 Out into the kitchen... 100 00:06:16,443 --> 00:06:17,876 From another room. 101 00:06:20,781 --> 00:06:23,315 To the left, there was the bedroom 102 00:06:23,317 --> 00:06:26,785 Where cora was lying, and it was very evident 103 00:06:26,787 --> 00:06:30,522 That she had been shot several times and her throat was cut. 104 00:06:34,595 --> 00:06:37,095 Seven shots, altogether -- 105 00:06:37,097 --> 00:06:40,832 Two to charley's head, five to cora's head -- 106 00:06:40,834 --> 00:06:43,635 And both had been cut 107 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:46,471 On the throat with a knife. 108 00:06:50,444 --> 00:06:52,711 It was just -- 109 00:06:52,713 --> 00:06:54,913 It was just a bad scene... 110 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:01,453 ...The worst I'll probably ever see... 111 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:07,259 ...And the worst that I did in my 35-year career. 112 00:07:07,261 --> 00:07:13,231 ♪ 113 00:07:13,233 --> 00:07:16,034 Bad things don't happen very often here. 114 00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:18,837 And... 115 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:20,338 When you have a double murder, 116 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:22,941 It's extremely unusual. 117 00:07:22,943 --> 00:07:27,045 I wasn't called to the scene until about four hours later. 118 00:07:27,047 --> 00:07:29,381 What the hell is going on in here? 119 00:07:30,918 --> 00:07:33,852 And I walked up to vern erck, 120 00:07:33,854 --> 00:07:35,921 And I said, "vern, I got two questions. 121 00:07:35,923 --> 00:07:37,622 Why wasn't I called earlier, 122 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:39,691 And what are all these cops doing in here?" 123 00:07:39,693 --> 00:07:40,492 Hey, easy with that. Hey, hey! Put that down! 124 00:07:40,494 --> 00:07:42,527 Hey, vern. 125 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:43,995 Not one of them are wearing gloves. 126 00:07:43,997 --> 00:07:45,964 What are they all doing in here? I tried to stop them. 127 00:07:45,966 --> 00:07:47,365 I was overruled. 128 00:07:47,367 --> 00:07:49,901 There were people that really had no reason to be there. 129 00:07:49,903 --> 00:07:53,672 They'd probably never ever, ever seen a murder scene. 130 00:07:53,674 --> 00:07:55,373 Not many of us have. 131 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:57,476 I'm sorry, sir. I'm not in charge over here. 132 00:07:57,478 --> 00:07:59,411 Well, you're in charge now. 133 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:04,349 [ police siren wails ] 134 00:08:04,351 --> 00:08:07,185 Ah, no. You've got to be kidding me! 135 00:08:07,187 --> 00:08:10,121 A deputy comes flying down the road -- 136 00:08:10,123 --> 00:08:11,957 Sirens going, lights going -- 137 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:14,292 And he pulls up right up to the garage, 138 00:08:14,294 --> 00:08:16,661 Right where the tire prints would've been. 139 00:08:18,832 --> 00:08:21,466 It was cold! It's rural area! 140 00:08:21,468 --> 00:08:23,301 They didn't walk out there. 141 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,837 You know they had a car, 142 00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:28,006 And we would've had those tire prints 143 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,908 Had nobody driven into that driveway. 144 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:34,179 What on earth is going on here? 145 00:08:34,181 --> 00:08:37,349 I want all nonessential personnel out of the scene now. 146 00:08:37,351 --> 00:08:40,051 Alright. Alright everybody, listen up! 147 00:08:40,053 --> 00:08:42,287 If you're not a tech, I need you to drop what you're doing 148 00:08:42,289 --> 00:08:44,356 And leave the scene immediately. 149 00:08:44,358 --> 00:08:45,957 [ claps ] let's go! 150 00:08:48,395 --> 00:08:50,962 Come on. I got something you need to see. 151 00:08:56,303 --> 00:08:59,471 Slorby: There was a chair in the middle of the living room. 152 00:08:59,473 --> 00:09:03,441 It was pretty clear that mr. Abernathey was murdered 153 00:09:03,443 --> 00:09:05,477 Sitting in that chair. 154 00:09:05,479 --> 00:09:12,017 ♪ 155 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:13,518 What do we have here? 156 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,821 And on the back of the chair -- 157 00:09:16,823 --> 00:09:19,424 Wood slat across the back -- 158 00:09:19,426 --> 00:09:23,061 Blood on it. 159 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:24,262 Hey, this is crucial. 160 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:26,431 I'm gonna want pictures of this, not just video. 161 00:09:28,502 --> 00:09:30,936 Hopefully, we got a print on the back of that. 162 00:09:30,938 --> 00:09:34,706 And yeah, that was a wild moment. 163 00:09:34,708 --> 00:09:36,675 I'm -- I'm sorry, sir. 164 00:09:36,677 --> 00:09:39,210 That's mine. 165 00:09:39,212 --> 00:09:41,146 I moved the chair. 166 00:09:41,148 --> 00:09:43,582 That's where I grabbed it. 167 00:09:43,584 --> 00:09:45,216 Well, I find out one of the deputies 168 00:09:45,218 --> 00:09:47,452 That was videoing the scene 169 00:09:47,454 --> 00:09:50,021 Move that chair to get a better view. 170 00:09:51,892 --> 00:09:54,960 So his print was on the back of that chair. 171 00:09:57,464 --> 00:09:58,730 Damn it! 172 00:09:58,732 --> 00:10:00,999 I was a real pissed, and I was real disappointed. 173 00:10:01,001 --> 00:10:02,801 The whole crime scene investigation 174 00:10:02,803 --> 00:10:05,270 Was basically botched. 175 00:10:05,272 --> 00:10:07,639 There weren't .22 casings found. 176 00:10:07,641 --> 00:10:11,276 But it was not something to brag about at all. 177 00:10:11,278 --> 00:10:13,378 Well, what about the shells? 178 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:15,180 There's about 1,000 people in this county 179 00:10:15,182 --> 00:10:16,748 That have guns that would match. 180 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:18,550 Including you and me. 181 00:10:18,552 --> 00:10:20,018 There's just no other evidence. 182 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:21,753 Our crime scene didn't give us any suspect. 183 00:10:21,755 --> 00:10:24,923 Somehow, we're gonna have to go the other way around 184 00:10:24,925 --> 00:10:27,092 And go form some suspects 185 00:10:27,094 --> 00:10:28,793 Out of the clear blue. 186 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:31,930 [ sighs ] these people were shot and they were stabbed. 187 00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:35,266 They were butchered. 188 00:10:35,268 --> 00:10:37,268 We've got a maniac on the loose, 189 00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:40,105 And absolutely no idea how to find them. 190 00:10:49,383 --> 00:10:56,721 ♪ 191 00:10:56,723 --> 00:10:59,124 Carole: I did not know there was a video taken that day. 192 00:10:59,126 --> 00:11:04,863 ♪ 193 00:11:04,865 --> 00:11:09,434 [ sighs ] that was videotaped before they closed the caskets. 194 00:11:09,436 --> 00:11:11,136 So I looked up to look inside. 195 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:19,811 I hate open caskets. 196 00:11:22,716 --> 00:11:27,485 You know, it's hard enough to prepare for one funeral. 197 00:11:27,487 --> 00:11:31,523 But to prepare for two... 198 00:11:31,525 --> 00:11:33,358 I really miss my mom and dad. 199 00:11:35,662 --> 00:11:38,063 My mother called me every night. 200 00:11:38,065 --> 00:11:42,100 [ chuckling ] and my dad, I could hear him in the background 201 00:11:42,102 --> 00:11:43,702 Every once in a while, "would you let that girl 202 00:11:43,704 --> 00:11:47,272 Get in the house and feed her kids before you bug her?" 203 00:11:47,274 --> 00:11:49,040 My dad was my stability. 204 00:11:51,712 --> 00:11:54,179 [ voice breaking ] I was [indistinct]. 205 00:11:54,181 --> 00:11:56,114 And of course, my mom, you know -- 206 00:11:56,116 --> 00:11:58,216 Who doesn't want their mom? 207 00:11:58,218 --> 00:11:59,984 But yeah, I felt alone. 208 00:11:59,986 --> 00:12:06,157 ♪ 209 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:07,425 [ exhales sharply ] 210 00:12:07,427 --> 00:12:13,264 ♪ 211 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:19,070 ♪ 212 00:12:19,072 --> 00:12:21,840 It's not unusual for the killers 213 00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:23,274 To show up at a funeral. 214 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:29,547 You're hoping you'll see something -- 215 00:12:29,549 --> 00:12:33,184 That killer behaving differently, 216 00:12:33,186 --> 00:12:37,155 Not kind of behavior you'd expect to see at a funeral. 217 00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:39,524 It didn't lead to anything, 218 00:12:39,526 --> 00:12:41,159 But it could have. 219 00:12:42,963 --> 00:12:44,763 Mrs. Abernathey? 220 00:12:47,634 --> 00:12:50,802 I'm so sorry about your parents. 221 00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,470 Thank you. 222 00:12:52,472 --> 00:12:55,340 Do you suppose we could speak privately for a moment? 223 00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:56,875 Yeah? Let's go this way. 224 00:12:56,877 --> 00:12:59,010 Usually, there is a connection 225 00:12:59,012 --> 00:13:02,213 Between the killer and the victim. 226 00:13:02,215 --> 00:13:06,985 The family is bound to have at least some information 227 00:13:06,987 --> 00:13:09,287 That turns out to be helpful. 228 00:13:11,324 --> 00:13:13,358 [ whispering ] I apologize for having this here 229 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,126 But we're trying to move quickly. 230 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:16,694 There's a possibility 231 00:13:16,696 --> 00:13:18,363 That the robbery was a cover-up... 232 00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:23,768 ...And that your parents actually knew the killer. 233 00:13:23,770 --> 00:13:25,470 Is there anyone you know 234 00:13:25,472 --> 00:13:27,305 That may have wanted to hurt your parents? 235 00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:32,944 I don't know if I should tell you this. 236 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:35,046 I had some problems with my ex-husband. 237 00:13:36,683 --> 00:13:39,017 Carole: They asked me about my ex-husband. 238 00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:42,020 He was absolutely unhappy because of the divorce. 239 00:13:42,022 --> 00:13:45,423 There was the time that he was in the ward county jail 240 00:13:45,425 --> 00:13:49,093 And he had made some off-the-cuff comment 241 00:13:49,095 --> 00:13:50,829 About my dad not liking him 242 00:13:50,831 --> 00:13:52,564 And probably blaming him 243 00:13:52,566 --> 00:13:53,832 For us separating. 244 00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:54,999 But... 245 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:57,402 I don't think he would go so far as to hurt them. 246 00:13:58,772 --> 00:14:01,239 Carole's ex husband was an obvious lead 247 00:14:01,241 --> 00:14:03,274 In this kind of case. 248 00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:06,377 You frequently have that connection -- 249 00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:08,580 Bad blood because of a bad marriage. 250 00:14:08,582 --> 00:14:13,952 ♪ 251 00:14:13,954 --> 00:14:16,387 We had talked to her ex-husband. 252 00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:21,392 ♪ 253 00:14:21,394 --> 00:14:23,328 Do you know cora and charles abernathey? 254 00:14:24,497 --> 00:14:25,830 Uh-huh. 255 00:14:28,802 --> 00:14:30,101 "somebody killed them. 256 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:32,237 We feel that it was somebody 257 00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:34,539 They knew. 258 00:14:34,541 --> 00:14:38,910 We're here to find out where you were on Friday." 259 00:14:38,912 --> 00:14:40,912 Friday. 260 00:14:40,914 --> 00:14:43,514 I had school. 261 00:14:43,516 --> 00:14:45,283 And after school -- came home. 262 00:14:47,487 --> 00:14:50,755 What'd you do Saturday? 263 00:14:50,757 --> 00:14:52,991 Went ice fishing. 264 00:14:52,993 --> 00:14:55,760 "okay, who went ice fishing?" 265 00:14:55,762 --> 00:14:57,495 "uh, just me." 266 00:14:57,497 --> 00:14:59,364 "just you?" "uh-huh." 267 00:14:59,366 --> 00:15:01,466 Did you get along pretty good with charley and cora? 268 00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:06,938 ♪ 269 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:08,840 I didn't get along with charley. 270 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,779 "charley and I still had spats, 271 00:15:14,781 --> 00:15:17,982 Especially after the divorce 272 00:15:17,984 --> 00:15:20,652 Because as far as he was concerned..." 273 00:15:20,654 --> 00:15:24,689 He'd just as soon never let me see their daughter again. 274 00:15:24,691 --> 00:15:26,658 They have any enemies you know of? 275 00:15:29,496 --> 00:15:31,195 I was their only enemy. 276 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:36,200 Did you in any way, shape, or form 277 00:15:36,202 --> 00:15:39,304 Have anything to do with their deaths? 278 00:15:39,306 --> 00:15:41,372 I would've never considered anything like that. 279 00:15:45,111 --> 00:15:47,011 It would have been against my ex-wife, 280 00:15:47,013 --> 00:15:48,546 Not against them. 281 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:53,451 He said if he would've done anything 282 00:15:53,453 --> 00:15:55,186 It would've been to carole. 283 00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:01,526 Slorby: There was a number of us that were pretty confident 284 00:16:01,528 --> 00:16:03,494 We're gonna get our man. 285 00:16:03,496 --> 00:16:05,129 Boy, am I excited. 286 00:16:09,502 --> 00:16:13,338 Narrator: The investigators' suspicions take an unexpected turn 287 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:15,707 When the .22 caliber shell cases 288 00:16:15,709 --> 00:16:17,942 Yield an incriminating clue. 289 00:16:21,448 --> 00:16:23,481 Okay, so what's so important we had to be down here 290 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:25,283 At 5:00 in the morning? 291 00:16:25,285 --> 00:16:27,051 I was looking at the shells... 292 00:16:27,053 --> 00:16:30,321 Slorby: On the ballistic examinations, on the bullets, 293 00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:32,690 One was a twist to the right 294 00:16:32,692 --> 00:16:34,792 And the other was a twist to the left. 295 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:37,962 So that tells you you've got two firearms here. 296 00:16:37,964 --> 00:16:39,430 Even a double-barrel weapon's 297 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:42,166 Gonna have the same twist on each barrel. 298 00:16:42,168 --> 00:16:44,635 We still got nothing to tie anyone to the scene. 299 00:16:44,637 --> 00:16:45,937 Yeah, we need more. 300 00:16:45,939 --> 00:16:47,405 One gun was fired in the bedroom, 301 00:16:47,407 --> 00:16:49,173 One in the living room. 302 00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:51,943 That strongly suggests there's two people -- 303 00:16:51,945 --> 00:16:54,612 Two killers, two perpetrators. 304 00:16:54,614 --> 00:16:56,681 The ex-husband working with somebody? 305 00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:58,182 Maybe. 306 00:16:58,184 --> 00:16:59,984 And that's what you're looking for -- 307 00:16:59,986 --> 00:17:02,487 A pair of suspects. 308 00:17:02,489 --> 00:17:04,922 And that's my earliest 309 00:17:04,924 --> 00:17:06,724 "wow" moment. 310 00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:21,372 After they were killed, I'd go out there every night. 311 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:25,176 Every night after work, I'd go out. 312 00:17:25,178 --> 00:17:26,978 And we still had the horses out there then, 313 00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:29,347 So I just used that as an excuse. 314 00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:34,419 Just sat there. 315 00:17:34,421 --> 00:17:42,026 ♪ 316 00:17:42,028 --> 00:17:44,529 Just to go out there and think, I guess. 317 00:17:46,533 --> 00:17:48,132 [ whispering ] I don't [indistinct]. 318 00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:54,539 ♪ 319 00:17:54,541 --> 00:18:00,978 ♪ 320 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:03,381 Narrator: Now searching for two suspects, 321 00:18:03,383 --> 00:18:07,585 Detectives canvass the rural area around the abernathey home. 322 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:15,159 ♪ 323 00:18:15,161 --> 00:18:16,260 Hello, ma'am. 324 00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:19,530 We're, uh, awful sorry to bother you. 325 00:18:19,532 --> 00:18:22,700 Do you remember the night of the blizzard? 326 00:18:22,702 --> 00:18:24,268 Well, we were wondering if you might've seen 327 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:25,736 Anything strange, 328 00:18:25,738 --> 00:18:28,339 Anything out of the ordinary? 329 00:18:28,341 --> 00:18:31,342 We spoke to between 15 and 20 neighbors, 330 00:18:31,344 --> 00:18:35,079 And most of them -- seen nothing, heard nothing. 331 00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:38,683 Woman: But you might want to talk to my son. 332 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:43,154 Please, come in. 333 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:46,591 Sometimes canvassing gets you nothing. 334 00:18:46,593 --> 00:18:48,726 Other times, it gets you everything. 335 00:18:52,198 --> 00:18:54,799 I feel strange saying this. 336 00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:57,301 It's about kevin. 337 00:18:57,303 --> 00:19:02,106 The parents raised the name -- kevin austin, their son -- 338 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:03,875 And they were only talking in terms 339 00:19:03,877 --> 00:19:07,378 Of their problems with him. 340 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:10,515 Well, he's been taking money from us. 341 00:19:10,517 --> 00:19:12,783 He forged some checks in our name 342 00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:16,787 And there's just something unusual about him. 343 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:18,556 I think... 344 00:19:18,558 --> 00:19:20,691 This was bothering them for a while. 345 00:19:20,693 --> 00:19:22,860 They just felt he needed, you know, 346 00:19:22,862 --> 00:19:24,996 To straighten out his life. 347 00:19:24,998 --> 00:19:28,900 Ma'am, not to minimize what your son did, 348 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:31,235 But stealing money from you? 349 00:19:31,237 --> 00:19:33,337 I mean, what makes you connect that 350 00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:35,273 With what happened at the abernathey farmhouse? 351 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:38,643 They didn't think he would be involved in anything like this, 352 00:19:38,645 --> 00:19:42,246 But you know, if someone talked him into it 353 00:19:42,248 --> 00:19:45,583 He maybe, maybe would've went long. 354 00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:47,218 Thank you for your time, ma'am. 355 00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:48,819 We'll be in touch. 356 00:19:48,821 --> 00:19:55,459 ♪ 357 00:19:55,461 --> 00:20:02,133 ♪ 358 00:20:02,135 --> 00:20:03,734 This story seems pretty flimsy to me. 359 00:20:03,736 --> 00:20:06,837 I mean, at least the ex-husband had motive. 360 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:09,140 Detective, about him -- 361 00:20:09,142 --> 00:20:10,708 We checked his story. 362 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:13,044 And? It all checked out. 363 00:20:13,046 --> 00:20:15,413 Someone saw him ice fishing that Saturday. 364 00:20:15,415 --> 00:20:18,683 He couldn't have got from north dakota to minnesota in time. 365 00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:20,318 Erck: He had a good alibi. 366 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,554 He didn't stay on the radar very long. 367 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:25,856 I guess this kevin austin's story's all we got. 368 00:20:25,858 --> 00:20:28,392 Well, vern, I know kevin. 369 00:20:28,394 --> 00:20:30,628 Forgery charges a few years ago. 370 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:31,662 Really? 371 00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:33,331 Well, what do you make of him? 372 00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:34,799 Kevin austin -- 373 00:20:34,801 --> 00:20:37,235 He's just a minor crook 374 00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:39,203 In the minot area. 375 00:20:39,205 --> 00:20:42,807 Nothing really substantial stood out about him. 376 00:20:42,809 --> 00:20:44,542 Doesn't strike me as the violent type. 377 00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:49,280 He had a friend, though. 378 00:20:49,282 --> 00:20:51,549 This guy was a different story. 379 00:20:51,551 --> 00:20:52,917 What's his name? 380 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:55,920 Newnam. 381 00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:58,055 Calvin newnam. 382 00:20:58,057 --> 00:21:00,057 Calvin newnam had a violent history, 383 00:21:00,059 --> 00:21:02,793 And I had previously, as a [indistinct], 384 00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:05,396 Prosecuted calvin newnam for an aggravated assault, 385 00:21:05,398 --> 00:21:08,432 And I think he probably felt I treated him fairly. 386 00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:10,534 I think he had a certain comfort level with me, 387 00:21:10,536 --> 00:21:12,503 But I had that history with him. 388 00:21:12,505 --> 00:21:14,572 Calvin trusts me. 389 00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:16,173 Why don't you let me go talk to him. 390 00:21:19,979 --> 00:21:21,412 Let's do it. 391 00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:28,886 ♪ 392 00:21:28,888 --> 00:21:36,327 ♪ 393 00:21:36,329 --> 00:21:37,828 Thanks for meeting with me, calvin. 394 00:21:39,532 --> 00:21:41,365 Thought I'd seen the last of you, slorby. 395 00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:43,601 What's this about? 396 00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:44,835 I want to talk to you a little bit 397 00:21:44,837 --> 00:21:46,570 About what happened last year, 398 00:21:46,572 --> 00:21:48,706 About what you did. 399 00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:52,343 Slorby: Calvin tried to break into a car, 400 00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:55,479 And the guy caught him in the act, 401 00:21:55,481 --> 00:21:57,214 And... 402 00:21:57,216 --> 00:21:59,850 Calvin hit him over the head with bolt cutters, 403 00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:01,585 Knocked him out, 404 00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,687 And took off. 405 00:22:02,689 --> 00:22:04,488 [ sighs ] 406 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:07,692 Why are we going through that again? 407 00:22:07,694 --> 00:22:09,226 You told me you should've killed him. 408 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:13,631 He said, "I should've just killed the guy," 409 00:22:13,633 --> 00:22:15,399 And he said it kind of coldly. 410 00:22:15,401 --> 00:22:17,868 You know I mean? It wasn't -- 411 00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:19,670 It wasn't in jest. 412 00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:23,774 Calvin newnam fit 413 00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:25,743 A killer's profile. 414 00:22:25,745 --> 00:22:28,546 [ sighs ] 415 00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:29,980 And I did my time for it. 416 00:22:29,982 --> 00:22:32,883 [ windshield wipers swishing ] 417 00:22:32,885 --> 00:22:34,685 Where exactly are you going with this? 418 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:40,891 ♪ 419 00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:42,593 You hear about the couple that got murdered 420 00:22:42,595 --> 00:22:43,894 At the farmhouse? 421 00:22:45,932 --> 00:22:48,065 What's that got to do with me? 422 00:22:48,067 --> 00:22:51,135 I heard that your friend kevin austin 423 00:22:51,137 --> 00:22:52,436 Might've been up to you. 424 00:22:52,438 --> 00:22:57,274 ♪ 425 00:22:57,276 --> 00:22:58,876 Well, slorby, 426 00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:01,746 It's been great catching up but... 427 00:23:01,748 --> 00:23:03,581 I think we're done here. 428 00:23:03,583 --> 00:23:09,320 ♪ 429 00:23:09,322 --> 00:23:11,255 Cold out there, buddy. 430 00:23:11,257 --> 00:23:12,656 Take care of yourself. 431 00:23:12,658 --> 00:23:18,863 ♪ 432 00:23:18,865 --> 00:23:25,035 ♪ 433 00:23:25,037 --> 00:23:26,437 They did hang out together, 434 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:28,906 And we needed to put them 435 00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:31,475 At the crime scene doing the crime, 436 00:23:31,477 --> 00:23:36,313 But we don't have any evidence putting him there. 437 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:40,751 Maybe we can't place in there because they weren't there. 438 00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:44,121 Well, if they were there and they left anything, 439 00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:47,892 We did a beautiful job helping them cover their tracks. 440 00:23:47,894 --> 00:23:49,894 The whole case -- the whole case -- 441 00:23:49,896 --> 00:23:53,330 Depended on a confession. 100%. 442 00:23:53,332 --> 00:23:56,500 There was absolutely no other way it was gonna be solved. 443 00:23:56,502 --> 00:23:58,335 Absolutely none. 444 00:23:58,337 --> 00:23:59,637 We got to get to them somehow. 445 00:23:59,639 --> 00:24:02,273 We got to knock them off balance. 446 00:24:02,275 --> 00:24:05,376 You know, two people can keep a secret if one's dead. 447 00:24:05,378 --> 00:24:06,911 [ chuckles ] 448 00:24:06,913 --> 00:24:08,712 And that's their weakness -- 449 00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:10,281 Is there's two of them. 450 00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:11,415 That's the weakness. 451 00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:14,351 Divide and conquer. 452 00:24:14,353 --> 00:24:17,521 Wait a minute. 453 00:24:17,523 --> 00:24:19,390 We don't have any physical evidence. 454 00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:22,893 But they don't know that. 455 00:24:25,531 --> 00:24:26,730 What are you getting at? 456 00:24:26,732 --> 00:24:29,667 And verne erck 457 00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:32,803 Came up with this crazy idea. 458 00:24:32,805 --> 00:24:34,705 Alright, here's the idea. 459 00:24:34,707 --> 00:24:36,140 We call the reporters. 460 00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:38,709 We'll tell them we have a big break in the case, 461 00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:40,611 Tell him we're closing in on our suspects, 462 00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:42,813 That we have -- we have a ton of evidence 463 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,014 Waiting on processing 464 00:24:44,016 --> 00:24:46,851 And maybe, hopefully, 465 00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:48,886 Austin and newnam are watching. 466 00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:52,890 And hopefully, 467 00:24:52,892 --> 00:24:55,359 We can crack one of them. 468 00:24:55,361 --> 00:24:56,527 [ chuckles ] 469 00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:59,129 We had no clue 470 00:24:59,131 --> 00:25:00,731 If it's gonna work or not. 471 00:25:00,733 --> 00:25:03,267 It sounded pretty stupid to me 472 00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:04,768 But what else we gonna do? 473 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:08,472 You know what, why not. 474 00:25:08,474 --> 00:25:10,040 What we got to lose? 475 00:25:10,042 --> 00:25:11,575 God help us. 476 00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:17,915 We set up a number of fake news conferences 477 00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:19,717 For the sole purpose of attempting 478 00:25:19,719 --> 00:25:21,452 To deceive our killers. 479 00:25:21,454 --> 00:25:24,688 We believe the motive is robbery. 480 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:26,090 Reporter: Erck told reporters 481 00:25:26,092 --> 00:25:27,625 Family members have been interviewed 482 00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:28,926 And have been very cooperative. 483 00:25:28,928 --> 00:25:30,461 Slorby: The whole idea 484 00:25:30,463 --> 00:25:33,898 Was to convey a message 485 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:37,134 That we're getting real close 486 00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:39,870 To making an arrest. 487 00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:42,206 Reporter: The reason the investigation is taking so long 488 00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:44,074 Is because there's a tremendous amount of evidence 489 00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:46,510 That has to be processed by the state lab. 490 00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:48,879 Everything we put out there... 491 00:25:50,983 --> 00:25:52,216 ...Was bull. 492 00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:54,118 The thing that really sticks out, in my mind, 493 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,452 Is the "tire tracks." 494 00:25:57,557 --> 00:25:59,423 We know we don't have tire tracks, 495 00:25:59,425 --> 00:26:01,592 But they don't know... 496 00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:03,994 We don't have tire tracks. 497 00:26:03,996 --> 00:26:05,829 That was our first news conference. 498 00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:07,164 "we've got tire tracks, 499 00:26:07,166 --> 00:26:09,767 And we're going to be making some comparisons." 500 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:11,902 We hoped... 501 00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,371 That our perpetrators watched tv. 502 00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:16,574 [ chuckles ] 503 00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:19,143 Reporter: Officers believe the killer -- or killers -- 504 00:26:19,145 --> 00:26:20,844 Will be captured soon. 505 00:26:20,846 --> 00:26:26,951 ♪ 506 00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,452 Narrator: With the trap set, 507 00:26:28,454 --> 00:26:31,989 Investigators attempt to confront both suspects 508 00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:35,960 But focus heavily on calvin newnam. 509 00:26:35,962 --> 00:26:38,428 I bet I went up to his house at least three times. 510 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:39,930 We made sure 511 00:26:39,932 --> 00:26:44,101 That they saw us taking pictures of the tires... 512 00:26:47,506 --> 00:26:50,874 ...And saw us measuring and taking notes, 513 00:26:50,876 --> 00:26:53,777 Like we're taking notes on the tires. 514 00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,846 He obviously... [ camera shutter clicks ] 515 00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:59,283 ...Thought we were getting real close 516 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:01,118 Even though we weren't. 517 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,455 But again, all that's important is his own reality, 518 00:27:04,457 --> 00:27:06,857 And he thought we were. 519 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:08,959 Hopefully... 520 00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:10,661 He succumbs to it. 521 00:27:20,239 --> 00:27:22,206 [ film advance lever clicks ] 522 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:26,143 The idea was to... 523 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:28,646 Use some psychological pressure 524 00:27:28,648 --> 00:27:30,681 Not just through the media 525 00:27:30,683 --> 00:27:32,216 But in person. 526 00:27:32,218 --> 00:27:35,919 Keelan: At the time, I was assigned to investigations. 527 00:27:35,921 --> 00:27:39,123 So I got ahold of calvin at his house, 528 00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:41,325 Knocked on the door, 529 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:43,827 Trying to be friendly, 530 00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:46,897 Try to get inside his mind. 531 00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:48,532 [ knock on door ] 532 00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:51,335 Come on in. 533 00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:53,704 I came back off and on 534 00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:56,340 For a little over six months. 535 00:27:56,342 --> 00:27:59,209 There was something inside of me that was telling me 536 00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:02,046 That I think he'll come around, 537 00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:04,948 And we kind of got to be friends a little bit. 538 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:06,316 Hi, leo. 539 00:28:06,318 --> 00:28:09,486 Good to see you again, buddy. 540 00:28:09,488 --> 00:28:14,491 He'd be laying on his couch with the cat on his chest 541 00:28:14,493 --> 00:28:16,960 Here to take pictures of my tires again, leo? 542 00:28:16,962 --> 00:28:20,531 No. No, they're still processing that stuff. 543 00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:22,866 Just wanted to chat. 544 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,968 Well, then, have a seat. 545 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,641 [ cat purring ] this is willow. 546 00:28:30,643 --> 00:28:34,411 Just a baby, aren't you? 547 00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:37,715 I don't know if you want to call him an oddball or eccentric 548 00:28:37,717 --> 00:28:40,884 Or... But yeah, he was different. 549 00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:43,854 Not a normal person you meet on the street. 550 00:28:43,856 --> 00:28:46,323 [ purring continues ] 551 00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,392 Gone on. Pet her. 552 00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:56,633 ♪ 553 00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:58,569 Ah, she likes you, leo. 554 00:28:58,571 --> 00:29:01,171 Calvin's a little complicated. 555 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:04,074 He's quiet, he's an introvert, 556 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:06,143 But I knew his past history, 557 00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:08,712 And he could be a very violent, you know, 558 00:29:08,714 --> 00:29:12,416 Dr. Jekyll and mr. Hyde-type of person, too. 559 00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:14,284 You guys making any progress 560 00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:17,554 On that farmhouse business? 561 00:29:17,556 --> 00:29:19,923 Still working it. 562 00:29:19,925 --> 00:29:23,694 I hope he had better suspects than me, leo. 563 00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:26,697 You know I can't talk so much about that. 564 00:29:26,699 --> 00:29:28,832 [ purring continues ] 565 00:29:28,834 --> 00:29:31,769 Maybe it was miss willow. 566 00:29:31,771 --> 00:29:34,671 Were you a bad kitty, huh? 567 00:29:34,673 --> 00:29:37,007 I could tell his defense mechanism 568 00:29:37,009 --> 00:29:38,675 Was slowly starting 569 00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:41,345 To slow down a little bit. 570 00:29:41,347 --> 00:29:43,680 He was more comfortable with me. 571 00:29:43,682 --> 00:29:50,487 ♪ 572 00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:52,422 Man of god, huh? 573 00:29:52,424 --> 00:29:57,227 [ purring continues ] 574 00:29:57,229 --> 00:29:58,462 That's right. 575 00:29:58,464 --> 00:30:00,631 I found out he and his father 576 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:04,001 Were ordained ministers. 577 00:30:04,003 --> 00:30:07,337 I said, "you know, I'm a born-again christian. 578 00:30:07,339 --> 00:30:11,275 You must be a born-again christian, too." 579 00:30:11,277 --> 00:30:15,279 God's got a purpose for you, leo. 580 00:30:15,281 --> 00:30:16,847 He's got a purpose for you, too. 581 00:30:18,884 --> 00:30:21,318 What do you suppose that is? 582 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,655 I could tell you needed to talk to me about it. 583 00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:27,157 He knew it was time, and he wanted to do it. 584 00:30:29,094 --> 00:30:30,894 I think you know the answer to that. 585 00:30:32,965 --> 00:30:34,765 I believe god thinks 586 00:30:34,767 --> 00:30:36,567 It's time for you to tell the truth. 587 00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:41,905 And I brought it to a head, finally. 588 00:30:41,907 --> 00:30:46,009 I asked him if he would come to the police department. 589 00:30:46,011 --> 00:30:48,111 We need to talk there. 590 00:30:48,113 --> 00:30:50,614 There's a lot of people waiting near the truth, calvin. 591 00:30:50,616 --> 00:30:55,619 ♪ 592 00:30:55,621 --> 00:30:57,787 He knew I knew 593 00:30:57,789 --> 00:30:59,323 That he was guilty. 594 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:06,630 ♪ 595 00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:13,837 ♪ 596 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,606 Calvin. 597 00:31:15,608 --> 00:31:17,107 I have your word on that? 598 00:31:19,378 --> 00:31:20,644 Yes, sir. 599 00:31:20,646 --> 00:31:27,718 ♪ 600 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,219 [ purring continues ] 601 00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:36,994 ♪ 602 00:31:36,996 --> 00:31:39,963 And 5:00 on the button next day, 603 00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:41,865 He was down at the police department -- 604 00:31:41,867 --> 00:31:44,401 September 25th, 1985. 605 00:31:53,012 --> 00:31:54,411 Calvin, you're doing the right thing. 606 00:31:56,782 --> 00:31:59,149 I know this isn't easy. 607 00:31:59,151 --> 00:32:01,518 He was getting a little antsy 608 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,453 And I said to him, 609 00:32:03,455 --> 00:32:08,025 "calvin, it's like into a nightmare, wasn't it?" 610 00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:13,664 ♪ 611 00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:17,534 And he goes, "[ sighs heavily ] yes, leo, it was." 612 00:32:17,536 --> 00:32:21,104 And he started to sob. 613 00:32:21,106 --> 00:32:23,874 At the end, I think calvin felt very guilty, 614 00:32:23,876 --> 00:32:27,644 And he felt bad about being guilty. 615 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:30,347 I need an attorney, don't I? 616 00:32:30,349 --> 00:32:32,382 Well, you have a right to an attorney. 617 00:32:33,585 --> 00:32:36,520 Uh, just -- 618 00:32:36,522 --> 00:32:40,357 Just call tom slorby. 619 00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,593 And I said, "calvin... 620 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,696 He's a ward county prosecutor now. 621 00:32:45,698 --> 00:32:48,932 He'll be prosecuting this case." 622 00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,068 Calvin, it's his job to put you in jail. 623 00:32:52,805 --> 00:32:56,106 No. He's a good man. 624 00:32:56,108 --> 00:32:57,808 He'll do right by me. 625 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:01,411 Okay. 626 00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:02,879 Well, that's -- what could I say? 627 00:33:02,881 --> 00:33:04,748 That's calvin. [ laughs ] 628 00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:08,352 And tom came down. 629 00:33:08,354 --> 00:33:10,587 There just was a rapport 630 00:33:10,589 --> 00:33:11,922 That was built up 631 00:33:11,924 --> 00:33:13,890 And he had a certain comfort level with me. 632 00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:50,027 Joe: There was a rumor around town 633 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:52,929 That mom and dad had money stashed around the house. 634 00:33:52,931 --> 00:33:54,598 The rumor wasn't true. 635 00:35:07,372 --> 00:35:11,775 Listening to that cool, calm, collected voice, 636 00:35:11,777 --> 00:35:14,444 Just reaffirms my feelings 637 00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,913 That there's no conscience, 638 00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:20,717 There's nothing behind those beady eyes 639 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,254 But an evil, sick man. 640 00:35:24,256 --> 00:35:27,157 ♪ 641 00:35:40,439 --> 00:35:42,672 Then I cut her throat. 642 00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:47,777 [ sighs ] 643 00:35:47,779 --> 00:35:50,380 Well, calvin, I know this couldn't have been easy. 644 00:35:52,518 --> 00:35:55,352 I appreciate you telling me the truth. 645 00:35:55,354 --> 00:35:57,721 Like I told leo, 646 00:35:57,723 --> 00:35:59,189 I trust you. 647 00:36:01,593 --> 00:36:05,028 We could put the two of them together 648 00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:07,564 The day of the murder. 649 00:36:07,566 --> 00:36:09,166 It wrapped up the whole case. 650 00:36:09,168 --> 00:36:11,535 The ploy, it worked. 651 00:36:11,537 --> 00:36:13,170 The tire tracks, 652 00:36:13,172 --> 00:36:15,272 The fake news, 653 00:36:15,274 --> 00:36:16,907 Going to his house, 654 00:36:16,909 --> 00:36:18,375 It worked perfectly! 655 00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:19,976 We never would've got a confession 656 00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:22,245 Without putting the psychological pressure on. 657 00:36:22,247 --> 00:36:27,050 ♪ 658 00:36:37,129 --> 00:36:41,398 There was no undoing that confession. 659 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,333 These are his own words, 660 00:36:43,335 --> 00:36:44,734 But he realized 661 00:36:44,736 --> 00:36:47,070 That we tricked him. 662 00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:50,006 And hey, 663 00:36:50,008 --> 00:36:52,509 I'm not a bit ashamed tricking him, okay. 664 00:36:52,511 --> 00:36:55,512 Not a bit. Kind of proud of it, actually. 665 00:36:55,514 --> 00:36:58,882 He refused to testify against austin. 666 00:36:58,884 --> 00:37:01,117 So based on that, I had no choice 667 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,820 But to dismiss the charges against kevin austin. 668 00:37:03,822 --> 00:37:06,456 And I was concerned. I was concerned. 669 00:37:06,458 --> 00:37:08,325 From a law enforcement perspective, 670 00:37:08,327 --> 00:37:11,127 When a guy like kevin austin is free, 671 00:37:11,129 --> 00:37:13,663 You never feel that the community's safe. 672 00:37:15,701 --> 00:37:19,469 Just the fact that he was out and angry 673 00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:21,705 Because he'd been implicated, 674 00:37:21,707 --> 00:37:23,773 It made me feel scared. 675 00:37:32,217 --> 00:37:37,787 ♪ 676 00:37:37,789 --> 00:37:40,624 Joe: Calvin retracting his statement 677 00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:43,159 Meant that kevin was gonna walk free 678 00:37:43,161 --> 00:37:45,562 Without his testimony 679 00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:48,231 'cause they didn't have enough evidence 680 00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:52,269 On kevin to prosecute him. 681 00:37:52,271 --> 00:37:54,604 I was pretty upset about that. 682 00:38:05,517 --> 00:38:08,285 ♪ 683 00:38:08,287 --> 00:38:10,720 I had no case against kevin austin. 684 00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:14,858 Kevin austin was a free man 685 00:38:14,860 --> 00:38:17,193 As to this murder. 686 00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:20,063 Carole: Kevin austin just made me shudder. 687 00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:22,866 I didn't ever want to face that face. 688 00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:25,402 I don't want anyone in my family 689 00:38:25,404 --> 00:38:27,304 To run into him on the street. 690 00:38:27,306 --> 00:38:30,573 I just wanted him to be as far away from us as possible. 691 00:38:30,575 --> 00:38:39,883 ♪ 692 00:38:39,885 --> 00:38:43,153 I was state's attorney for ward county at that time 693 00:38:43,155 --> 00:38:45,955 And the timing of calvin newnam 694 00:38:45,957 --> 00:38:48,558 Changing his mind to cooperate 695 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,160 Came right right when I left office. 696 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:53,530 [ alarm echoes ] 697 00:38:53,532 --> 00:38:54,931 [ door clangs ] 698 00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:57,067 I lost my re-election bid for a fourth term 699 00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:58,902 In November of 1990. 700 00:39:01,073 --> 00:39:04,207 Heard you lost your job, slorby. [ chuckles ] 701 00:39:04,209 --> 00:39:06,176 Bet that that makes you pretty happy. 702 00:39:06,178 --> 00:39:09,312 He was mad at me. 703 00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:11,581 I trusted you. 704 00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:14,017 You tricked me. 705 00:39:14,019 --> 00:39:15,352 Slorby: He saw me as the devil. 706 00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:16,953 Didn't want to deal with the devil. 707 00:39:16,955 --> 00:39:20,223 And why he sat there for that six or seven years 708 00:39:20,225 --> 00:39:24,227 Is pretty much inexplicable to me. 709 00:39:24,229 --> 00:39:26,796 I'm ready now. 710 00:39:26,798 --> 00:39:28,598 You're ready? 711 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,167 [ breathes deeply ] 712 00:39:31,169 --> 00:39:33,203 But I'm not doing it for nothing. 713 00:39:33,205 --> 00:39:35,105 Slorby: My successor made a deal with him. 714 00:39:35,107 --> 00:39:36,973 To modify his sentence, 715 00:39:36,975 --> 00:39:39,342 He decided to testify 716 00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:42,078 Against austin. 717 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,914 Finally, kevin austin was arrested. 718 00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:47,784 Reporter: 30-year-old kevin austin is in custody tonight 719 00:39:47,786 --> 00:39:49,018 In the ward county jail, 720 00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:51,621 Facing two counts of double-a murder. 721 00:39:51,623 --> 00:39:53,890 He faced similar charges seven years ago 722 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:56,526 But those charges were dropped. 723 00:39:56,528 --> 00:39:59,562 Calvin newnam did testify 724 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:02,599 At the kevin austin murder trial. 725 00:40:05,103 --> 00:40:07,904 Kevin austin was found guilty of both murders, as well. 726 00:40:17,015 --> 00:40:19,916 ♪ 727 00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:22,385 Carole: Calvin demanded a reduced sentence 728 00:40:22,387 --> 00:40:26,556 To testify against kevin. 729 00:40:26,558 --> 00:40:28,591 We made a deal with the devil. 730 00:40:30,629 --> 00:40:33,730 But by the time we got out, 731 00:40:33,732 --> 00:40:35,432 Quite frankly, we were banking on the fact 732 00:40:35,434 --> 00:40:38,835 That he would be extremely sick or dead. 733 00:40:38,837 --> 00:40:47,877 ♪ 734 00:40:53,084 --> 00:41:00,356 ♪ 735 00:41:00,358 --> 00:41:01,758 I think I don't want to acknowledge 736 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,227 That he really did get out, 737 00:41:04,229 --> 00:41:07,664 That he lived to get out. 738 00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:09,899 I don't know that I've come to terms with it yet. 739 00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:12,402 He was supposed to die before now. 740 00:41:12,404 --> 00:41:14,804 Honest to gosh, he was supposed to die before now. 741 00:41:19,044 --> 00:41:21,444 Calvin is now released with no conditions -- 742 00:41:21,446 --> 00:41:23,213 Not parole, 743 00:41:23,215 --> 00:41:25,715 Not probation -- completely free. 744 00:41:25,717 --> 00:41:28,685 I'd rather that calvin had never been released from prison. 745 00:41:28,687 --> 00:41:34,357 ♪ 746 00:41:34,359 --> 00:41:37,193 Joe: Calvin's release brought up a lot of memories, you know, 747 00:41:37,195 --> 00:41:40,196 That had kind of faded a little bit. 748 00:41:40,198 --> 00:41:42,899 I don't know if I'll ever be able to forgive those guys. 749 00:41:44,769 --> 00:41:47,403 The forgiveness part is not for him. 750 00:41:47,405 --> 00:41:48,872 [ whispering ] it's for us. 751 00:41:53,078 --> 00:41:55,745 And I have hated him for many years. 752 00:41:55,747 --> 00:42:00,717 ♪ 753 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,752 But it's gonna take a while. [ chuckles ] 754 00:42:05,156 --> 00:42:08,091 My sister and brother and I, we've -- 755 00:42:08,093 --> 00:42:10,693 We lost a lot of years with our parents. 756 00:42:13,465 --> 00:42:15,832 Dad was very protective of my mother. 757 00:42:15,834 --> 00:42:18,134 I'm sure my parents were scared to death, 758 00:42:18,136 --> 00:42:20,436 And and with mom laying in the bedroom 759 00:42:20,438 --> 00:42:22,739 And probably hearing everything that went on. 760 00:42:22,741 --> 00:42:26,276 I can only imagine what was going through her mind 761 00:42:26,278 --> 00:42:29,712 When she heard the gunshots and somebody coming through. 762 00:42:29,714 --> 00:42:34,250 That's the worst part of it -- as many people that they had 763 00:42:34,252 --> 00:42:37,320 That loved them and family, 764 00:42:37,322 --> 00:42:39,889 And this should be the last two people they ever seen. 765 00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:43,359 Not right. 766 00:42:45,297 --> 00:42:46,729 Just not right... 767 00:42:46,731 --> 00:42:52,702 ♪ 56401

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