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So these became the infamous

John Andreadis Antichrist tapes.

I've not heard these tapes

since we did it, which was 1987.

For many years, I looked trying to find them.

What's on these tapes, I'm sure, is kind of horrific.

Should I hit play?

Yeah.

What follows on these cassettes

are discussions among the members of the Eternal Values

of the recent events.

That's me.

We all made a vow in this lifetime

to carry out a destiny of service.

But apparently,

John Andreadis had other plans in mind,

which have been exposed by recent events.

To pursue a selfish end in light of such

a vow would be the greatest betrayal.

Oh, this I remember.

Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm Frederick Von Mierers

with Eternal co-host John Andreadis.

John Andreadis, at some point,

was going to be this incarnation of God,

this divine entity on Earth.

And Frederick's position was,

I'm here to train him to take on that mantle.

John.

But then he fell in love.

Imagine a young boy, very idealistic and romantic,

meets a beautiful young girl.

[Eternal Values Member] Okay, so what happened from square one?

Jacki Adams--a top young model, wealthy and successful,

arrived four months ago.

John's told her that he was in love with her,

and that the personal love he felt for her,

their personal relationship,

was something that all the Deans needed, and that he and she

were going to be the new example for all of us.

Maybe one of the sickest things I've ever heard.

"one of the sickest things I've ever heard."

A personal, love, romantic relationship.

"One of the sickest things I've ever heard."

That's--that's the EV mindset right there.

He told her that the two of them would be

the royal couple of the New Age.

In other words Frederick said, "Do you know what that means?

That means he doesn't love me

because he went out the door and chose Jacki."

Getting to know all about you.

Hi, I'm Jacki Adams.

And...

You are a model with Ford...

Yes, don't hold that against me, please.

For me, everything good had happened when I left home.

And where I came from, actually,

is the real South.

My father died when I was eight, in Vietnam.

And my mother, she had some mental illness.

I was living on my own at 15.

I was working at McDonald's.

I was working in babysitting.

But I added another job in a photo studio.

One time, a model couldn't make it,

so they decided, hey, let's dress up Jacki.

I had been very insecure about how I looked,

but this photographer took my picture into Eileen Ford

and said, "This is Jacki Adams."

Before I knew it, she was interviewing me

on a news program as her latest find.

Jacki Adams came to New York

and became one of my top, top girls.

She was one of my big, big moneymakers.

She was riding high.

This was my moment.

But it's kind of a blur.

I mean, it was a very surface, artificial world

that I inhabited, where it was about how you looked,

what parties you went to.

So here I am, the height of my career.

But I was asking myself over and over,

what is the meaning of all this?

I don't like to see myself.

I get too critical.

I turned to books to try to find meaning.

"Food and Healing."

And I happened to stumble upon a new age book

called "Aliens Among Us."

I read about Frederick Von Mierers and his friends.

They had this sense of urgency about important stuff

like life, like your soul.

I was like, yes, yes, that's so much better

than worrying about what shade of lipstick

goes with the Chanel jacket.

You know, the modeling business is

actually very small, and you kind of know each other.

Jacki was always someone that was very professional.

She was always, you know, kind.

People know me in the business,

but I'm not really that well known

outside of the business, which I prefer.

You know, I do my job and enjoy it.

Hoyt was the poster child for the Eternal Values.

They were serious professionals.

They thought about things in a different way.

And they were interested in the spiritual life.

And that was really compelling to me.

Maybe there's something to it.

I'm curious.

I wanted to find out.

So I contacted them for an astrology reading.

And from there, I was just swept into the circle

that was Eternal Values.

It might be a very good idea

that we all introduce ourselves to each other.

Hi, I'm Jacki Adams, and I'm model.

I arrived...

So we're all ready?

And the first person to really talk to me

was John Andreadis.

With me tonight, and of course,

you all know John Andreadis.

John. John.

John. John, take us away.

How do you do?

First, we'd like to discuss the importance

of the youth of America.

John was Frederick's principal student.

John was 16 years old when Frederick met him

at the Quest Bookshop on East 53rd,

which was a Theosophical bookstore.

Frederick saw John come in, and he said,

"You're the one I've been waiting for."

They began to talk and develop the relationship.

And then John started to look at Frederick

as someone that he could learn stuff from.

And Frederick looked at him as this incredible student,

because he had read a ton of books

in metaphysics and religion.

When John and Jacki met,

he spent a lot of time with her,

one-on-one talking about her astrological chart.

And I'd never seen him do that with anyone else so overtly,

where he really kind of focused in on them.

I remember, he thought our charts

were like twin flames.

There's a spark that flashes in each other's eyes,

and then there's a magic that is kindled as the fire of love

begins to grow between them.

John told me that we were meant to be together.

At the time, I believed that a system of tracking the stars

could make sense of my existence.

I actually knew that Jacki was engaged to this guy,

another model that I knew.

Four days after she had first met John,

she's dropping the bomb on this guy and telling him to hit the road--

so of course he freaks out.

Wow.

Four days later.

And the boy will buy her flowers.

And all of a sudden, his life has changed.

He skips down the street.

There's all these incredible things

just because of this force of love.

I mean, it sounds really grandiose,

but I was young and impressionable,

and here were other misfits who didn't fit in anywhere.

They're smart, they're kind, and they're going to help me.

I thought that I was becoming part of a family,

a healthy family, you know, a supportive family.

The relationship between John and Jacki

blindsided everybody.

Frederick said to John, "Listen.

You two can have a brother-sister relationship

of love and support, just like we have amongst all the Deans.

That's all that's necessary."

And with Frederick,

their relationship really became a source of conflict.

John.

If you meet someone that you love,

that can be an expression of the highest truth

on the particular level, and that is fine.

I think he realized that

the Eternal Values was no longer

the most important thing to John.

And I could see there was jealousy

and some resentment building.

The dark and evil forces that are perpetuating

the idea of soulmates,

they are the absolute instrument

of the most diabolical and most evil forces in this world.

When I became involved in the group,

it was really easy for them

to find something for me to feel inferior about.

I was very insecure because I hadn't gone to university.

I was insecure because I was successful

based largely on the way I looked.

Frederick confronted Jacki.

Frederick turned to her and said, "Look,

I think you are full of shit."

And she started to cry and he said, "Your tears don't touch me."

Frederick said that there was a deficiency going on,

that I--I needed help.

And it would always be followed up with,

"What are you willing to give up

for something that means more than anything on this Earth?"

I was like, "Everything."

Everything.

There was the apartment that Frederick asked me

to sign a lease for in the building,

where John and I lived.

And Frederick said

all the furniture had to be custom.

But the other thing is that Frederick was very serious

about these gem prescriptions.

The geometrical forms of the atoms,

vibrations, octaves, frequencies, gems.

Frederick would look at your astrology star chart,

identify where your weaknesses were,

where your strengths were.

You're lost.

You're deficient in the violet ray.

Then he would make a gem prescription.

In this life, it's very important that you have a sapphire.

So yeah, a gemstone,

if that can make me bearable, that's a small price to pay.

My prescription, it was about $80,000.

And the money wasn't making me happy,

so I absolutely went and got

that cashier's check for gemstones.

And then the next one, and then the next one.

It was amazing how much spirituality cost.

These gems are the fairy tales of this dimension.

I mean these are our dreams.

We all want the gems.

You know, Frederick said, "Never take them off

unless you have to," so I would wear them on set.

We worked together.

And he had all these funky sort of--

they looked like costume jewelry,

rings on his hands.

And I asked him about them

just to get him to talk about it,

and he kind of went off in a language

that I had no idea of what he was talking about.

And it became a badge of honor

to be able to afford to get such a thing.

You really treated these things like holy, divine

kind of, you know, lightsabers,

as Frederick said that these gems

would help protect you through these troubled times ahead.

The droughts, the famine, the wars.

Frederick had a prophecy, and he had to warn the world.

There was going to be this horrible cataclysm coming.

The planet was going to be wiped out.

The Earth will tilt on its axis.

This pole shift will take place in 1999,

and humanity will be decimated.

The pole shift was going to be

that the magnetic axis of the Earth would shift.

The magnetic poles will shift,

like, within six hours.

Enough to cause cataclysmic storms,

earthquakes, tsunamis.

And all the present continents that exist

will be submerged beneath the water.

Frederick believed that

there were certain parts of the United States

that would survive the Earth changes.

Frederick found that the Smoky Mountain region was

far enough away from the oceans,

and it wasn't going to be affected.

So that's when we started to make trips

down to North Carolina.

The first time we went down there,

we saw this property on this lake called Lake Lure.

And I remember Freddie looking up at it and going,

"Oh, yes, this would be a perfect spot

to build the platforms where the spaceships will land."

After the pole shift,

the aliens are going to take us into their craft.

These space beings, first, this planet,

according to the Hindu scriptures,

13,200 BC in a flying saucer.

We were going to be lifted out...

Many UFOs have been spotted during the past 35 years.

And put into the rejuvenation chambers.

And we would stay with them until things

settled back down on Planet Earth,

at which point they would drop us back down,

and we would lead in the new age.

Those that believe will be saved because

they will be the future of the world,

what will be left of the world.

There was always this sense that

these are the people that you're going to be with

after everything is destroyed.

Frederick told us we were going to literally be

the bastions of the new age.

And he said, one day, they'll have

statues of us in the future.

So we bought the property,

and we would all go back and forth between New York

and North Carolina to set up a compound down there,

where we could be ready for

when the space people would arrive.

I remember when we first got the property,

Freddie was down on the dock,

and he's down there completely nude.

This is a small town in North Carolina.

Homeboy's down on the dock naked.

Understandably, most of the visitors

to the Lake Lure area

come for the natural beauty and spectacular scenery.

In a little bitty town like Lake Lure,

the rumor mill is full of all kinds of things.

The Eternal Values folks,

they wanted to keep a low profile,

but they weren't very good at it.

I mean, you've got these extremely beautiful people

coming into this little bitty town,

and they stick out like a sore thumb,

especially when they take a rustic mansion of a house

and turn it into a pink palace.

It was like a 6,000 square foot version of For End.

We had pink marble floors.

It was going to become this grand palace for Frederick.

I'm sure everybody had binoculars and cameras on us.

You would hear rumors.

I remember a little talk about, I think,

some visitors from another world coming here

and meeting up with some of their members.

And the local people did not like that.

I remember John invited me to come to the lake house.

That was a big deal.

It was really cool.

And I was--I was so excited.

You know, I thought it would be

a nice retreat with the group.

We really have to go into what happened in North Carolina.

Because John Andreadis laid a snow job on all of us about Jacki.

But they could be your best friend.

They could be your worst nightmare.

It could change.

They call you names.

They disparage your character.

They insult your intellect.

John and Jacki, in North Carolina, they almost, you know,

jumped in the sack.

He went through the whole

then, "Oh that's not the purpose of our relationship."

I mean for me, from that point on, I thought that was--

That was written off.

Back then, most of the members

were kind of living a very celibate life.

[Russ] I was with Frederick when he confronted John.

He said, "John, you've slept with her, haven't you?"

And John said, "Yes."

Frederick, of course, knew.

Frederick knows everyone to their core.

And that's where the root of it all began.

It's just like Frederick said, "He traded...

this work for flesh."

At first, their relationship

seemed like almost an infatuation,

but it really expanded into this full blown love affair.

And John and Jacki got to the point

where they really wanted to actually get married.

At the time, I thought,

I care about this person,

so if this is my spiritual journey,

then here I am getting married.

It was a very small ceremony in the apartment.

No one was there except Eternal Values people.

I was, like, kind of shocked by it.

Holy shit, he's getting married.

How's that working out?

"Romantic love was the downfall of mankind,"

that's something that Frederick said repeatedly.

You know, that would be completely selfish.

That was just against everything we stood for.

If celibacy was the thing

that was going to prepare us for this end game

of the pole shift and us being leaders of the new age, then--

then, all right, man.

But I wanted to have sex.

I mean, you're in your 20s.

There was a shift at one point

because that pent up sexual energy

started to become problematic.

Frederick just got fed up with it and said,

"OK, you're all impossible.

"Listen, you know, rather than get involved with other people,

you should just all do it with each other."

Don't be attached to your body.

It's just a body.

You've got urges.

Just get it out and realize none of it matters.

And just go through this transition,

and you'll get back to the other side,

where you can be celibate again.

On the first night out

with this gentleman that you like so much,

blow his mind, if you know what I mean.

Suddenly, everybody needed to be sexual.

There's another host of ladies of all being

initiated into the beyond.

Models galore.

When I was away on some of my model shoots,

I was able to kind of have these occasional

trysts with, you know, ladies.

This is part of the glamorous moments,

having your pants ripped off by a woman.

But I would come back and share those experiences,

and it was kind of welcomed.

Do everything in moderation

and have a great time and have a blast.

You should visualize yourself as a little bumblebee

going to all the flowers of the experiences in existence.

When it shifted from the celibate nature,

did things go south?

Yeah, I think things went south.

And it's very sad.

I was working for Frederick full-time.

I was his personal assistant 24/7,

shielding Frederick from problems

and filtering who came in and out.

Back then, Frederick claimed to be asexual,

that he was beyond all of that.

He had talked about some of his past conquests,

you know, with certain guys,

and that was part of his evolution.

But once he had had this kind of Walk-In experience

that--you know, and he put that to the side,

and he was now committing himself to God,

and this work that he was doing.

But these men would come by,

and Frederick would take them in the back room,

and usually he might do like a kind of lifelike

reading with them.

And then he would come out, and say, "Oh, Lord, H,

"this person, he's having such trouble.

"His wife, his kids.

Will you help him out?"

And I'd just like, peel off 100 bucks

and give it to the guy,

having no idea that I was paying for

what just happened in the back room.

Frederick does what he does.

I escort them out down the basement,

out through 55th Street, so the 54th Street side doorman

didn't know Frederick was having a hustler about

three or four times a week.

Frederick, I'm, like, walking around with him

in Times Square.

It was like we were on a hunt.

He would say, "Dear, we're on a special mission

to find the biggest dicks in the universe."

And he would call them the "dicks of death."

Frederick just thought this was hilarious.

But it's not funny at all, in retrospect.

Psychic Hindu astrology knight Frederick Von Mierers.

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

I want to ask Frederick about some predictions

he had made a very long time ago.

This terrible AIDS epidemic.

You had made that prediction years ago.

Three years ago.

Oh, I was going to say it's got to be

two, maybe three years ago.

Many people have written

to the Eternal Values about AIDS.

AIDS is an ancient disease from the foundation of the Earth

and has been brought back by the evil thoughts of humanity.

It's mysterious, it's deadly,

and it's baffling medical science.

Once thought to affect only promiscuous homosexual males,

AIDS is now spreading in epidemic proportions

to other segments of the population.

Frederick became boundaryless.

I started getting more and more uncomfortable,

what was being asked of me,

what was being expected from me and others.

Frederick had said sex was supposed to be

an act of freedom, and actually it became

more of a repression, you know, a pressure.

That's the way it closed in on me.

But I got away before the worst of it happened.

It was terrifying during the time of AIDS,

having various encounters.

Sexual energy is God himself living in you as you.

I didn't have any sex with him

or anybody with him, but--

but he did, like, tutor.

Paul.

Walter Russell was entirely self-educated.

For John, his whole adult life

had been this group.

But I think he was realizing that something was wrong here.

When you suffer more,

you take on the burden of the world.

When the burden of the world gets heavier and heavier,

you begin to break underneath it,

and then you begin to scream out for help.

I believe that John, as a young man,

was completely earnest in his desire to help

and to do good things for other people.

So he protected me and kept me a little insulated

from some of the more disturbing things

that were going on.

Frederick was demanding people in the group have

these sexual encounters with one another

or with strangers that would come in.

You'd have to fuck them or they would fuck you,

whatever Frederick had in his head.

A lot of these women I consider like sisters,

and it actually felt, like, incestuous to me,

as awful as that sounds.

And I was not comfortable.

And it was always framed, whether by Frederick

or by even some of the others in their group,

that it was just because I was repressed.

I just couldn't be free and not be attached

and just see it for what it was.

It was just sex, and that's all it is.

And that was just a smattering of what

I think others went through

on a much more consistent basis,

because I wasn't around all the time.

Frederick said, "Unless you're free enough

"to go on Fifth Avenue and sit on a dildo

"and not care about what other people think about you,

then you're not truly free."

You know, the basic tenet was non-attachment.

And don't be self-conscious.

Don't worry about what other people think of you.

In retrospect, the whole dynamics of the group

was based on Frederick's belief

that everyone wanted to be like him.

And if you weren't able to manifest certain behavior

that was like him, then you were somehow lesser than

or oppressed or there was something wrong with you.

Frederick would encourage us

to pursue these sensational experiences.

I'm talking about using drugs.

Maybe a little bit too much of the ecstasy,

and then you can do things that you never thought about

or never even wanted to know about.

Now, you're doing it because you're just

kind of eased into it, and then you're--

it's too late to say no.

To infringe on someone's right of self-determination

is satanically evil and total psychological manipulation,

from your erection to your resurrection.

Ah, fuck.

I don't even know how to put it, man.

It just fucking breaks my heart.

I don't think I'll ever be at peace

with any of what happened.

Whether I was there or not, I heard the stories.

And the fact that I didn't stop it

or make a stand in some way,

it's one of the great regrets I still hold.

And I just wish

I'd handled it differently.

The only thing that is real is what happens here.

What happens in these apartments.

These people working humbly,

and serving each other.

And that's the only thing that means anything.

John was doing all of the astrology readings.

He was kind of the workhorse for Frederick.

You know, we had a two- or three-year waiting list

to do life readings.

You paid $350 per tape.

We had orders flowing in.

John just couldn't do all the work

that Frederick was asking him to do.

And Frederick could get really angry.

Look at you, you cannot even finish your work.

It was demanded of me to lock John in a room

and not to give him any food or water or anything

until he produced a certain number of astrology readings.

But I couldn't do that to this sweet, young man.

It was all OK when it was happening to me.

It was not OK if I was going to do it to someone else.

That was what woke me up.

I was finally realizing that this is abusive.

And it quickly became apparent that we needed to leave.

As the John and Jacki relationship

became more intensified, there became whispers

and talks within the ranks of,

what are we going to do to stop this?

How do we expose this

and hopefully bring it to an end?

We did know that there was going to be

a seminar coming up where he was supposed to be

one of the main speakers with Frederick.

And so there became this plan to use that opportunity

to expose John, hoping that it might end the relationship

and bring him back to his senses.

And I would say about 40, 50 people showed up.

And, you know, John starts trying to explain that

everything is not what it seems with this group

and definitely not with Frederick.

Frederick called him out in front of all the people.

And these are innocent bystanders.

He has, like, tears in his eyes,

"John, please!

Think of the people, John."

He is here for humanity.

Not to sort out marital problems in a personal relationship.

They started to attack.

It was just this whole avalanche of hate.

Absolute hate.

It's time that we all stop this monster that is growing.

Ultimately, there was a confrontation

that happened back in For End.

And so John comes back down here,

and Frederick flies in the door,

and he goes up to John A. and he starts...

smashing him across the face.

And we're condoning that.

"You fucking liar."

"You come in here and start creating dissension."

"And I'm going to smash the shit out of you."

And John A. just resisted,

"Look what you're doing to my face, Frederick."

"Don't hit me, Frederick."

"Don't hit me."

How did it end exactly?

He said, "Just get out of here."

He said, "This is a holy place."

"Just get out of here."

"Go back to your wife."

"Your wife is a witch."

It felt very empowering to confront Frederick.

But when we left, I was still invested

in the belief that he had powers--

supernatural powers.

We were programmed to think

they could do whatever they wanted to us.

It was like, what's around the corner of that building?

You know, are they-- are they looking?

Are they here?

Are they listening?

Do they have my apartment bugged?

'Cause remember, they had access to everything.

It was completely exposed-feeling.

I love John Andreadis.

But if I never see John Andreadis ever again,

it means nothing to me.

And if anyone reads the book, it states clearly

that I'm the Walk-In with the knowledge

and he is the...

the student.

Who has now gotten married.

Which is a disaster.

John and Jacki had just gotten lost.

So Frederick said right now, we had to kind of

build spiritual warriors that were going

to take on this battle that was coming.

And it is a battle of the dark and diabolical forces

to take control of men's minds.

They were now part of those outer forces

that were trying to destroy the good things

that are here on Earth,

like the work that we were doing.

And so we came to this conclusion

that if John's betraying us, John must be the Antichrist.

John wants power. This is Satan.

Let me tell you something, John.

Your holy roller trip has always made me sick.

You fucking Catholic Hindu little piece of shit.

This tape was sent to any and everyone

Frederick could think of.

We were characterized

as these terrible, evil people.

John is so overcome by egomaniacal desires for power

which means he's going to have to be destroyed.

It was absolutely frightening.

We're all spiritual family, brothers and sisters.

But if you leave the group, we will crush you.

Listen, we all love Frederick

and we are loyal to him

completely.

It's like pure, blind faith, right?

Blind faith.

We all know how dangerous that is.

Would we have all taken a bullet for Frederick?

I think at that point, yeah.

I hate to admit that about myself,

but I think I probably would have.

After John and Jacki left,

our group was kind of going through a transition.

And there was a television show called "People Are Talking"

with this guy Richard Bey.

Good morning.

Thanks for joining me today on "People Are Talking."

I'm Richard Bey.

Somehow, they got ahold of the story around Frederick

and this group he was involved with.

And they reached out to him to say,

"We'd love to interview you

and kind of find out what you're doing."

And--and Frederick thought, oh, this is fantastic.

There is an idea that most people have

that we are not alone in this universe,

that there are other life forms present

throughout the galaxies.

Frederick Von Mierers is known as a Walk-In.

But because John was now absent,

I had to be there side-by-side with Freddie.

And that was terrifying to me.

Frederick, what is a Walk-In?

What does that mean?

We're not here to talk about sensationalism.

The fundamental--

Wait, one second.

Frederick, you claim you're from another planet, right?

I'm explaining it to you.

I know, but is that--can you answer that question?

Do you claim that you are from Arcturus?

I said I am a Walk-In, yes,

and I did come from Arcturus.

All right.

What was your physical form on Arcturus?

Hydrogen light body.

And I just didn't consider myself

to be the best representative

of what Eternal Values was supposed to be.

I mean, I just was absolutely horrified

that I could just somehow put my foot in my mouth.

But yeah, there's no way

I was going to turn down Freddie.

I first met Frederick when I was about 16

on the beach in Nantucket.

Is it fair to say that

you are an extraterrestrial or an ET,

as much as you are an earthling?

I think it's very important

that we don't get into this whole idea that

the whole extraterrestrials, very sensationalist.

What we're trying to say is that when--

Not sensationalist. You say it as a fact.

- Can you understand-- - Who are you?

Who am I?

Richard Bey, born in Far Rockaway, Queens.

What is Richard Bey?

July 22, 1951.

2:08 in the morning.

What is Richard Bey?

All the ideas that you just presented to this audience--

How far back--

Please do not interrupt me.

Oh, thank you.

Do all the ideas--

You may have a talk show on Arcturus,

but you don't have one in Secaucus.

Now, what we didn't prepare for

was that this was kind of a setup.

You want to know what I really think?

I think you found some young, impressionable people

who are on a quest for spiritual moral values.

This is all fine.

We'll be right back in just a moment.

I'm back there, and I'm watching everything go on.

And they were loaded for bear.

They were, like, really clear.

This guy's a whack job.

It's a cult.

Is it just a coincidence that all of you

are, like, gorgeous people?

Is there any reason why you are chosen?

No one is chosen, so to speak.

Everybody makes the choice themself.

Do you believe as well that you are from another planet?

- Absolutely. - You do?

I'll tell you, if they look like you on this planet,

I'm going to buy a ticket right now.

Everything about it went wrong.

How do your parents react to this?

Our father is God,

and our mother is Mother Nature.

They had planted born-again Christians

in the audience.

Everything that's been discussed today is heresy.

Amen!

People that were ready to just throw arrows.

Crime and the perversion that's going on

in New York City!

- Do you? - Do you have an answer?

It was clear that people in the audience

had no real interest in hearing what Frederick had to say.

You're going into the most crucial

period of Earth history.

The terrible earthquakes, the storms.

We must warn you.

We're here to warn you of these things.

We are sincere.

Without question, it was certainly

not one of our finer moments.

After that, we thought,

you know, we're not going on television again.

I received a lot of attention that I should not be so public.

Because they just want to tear everything to shreds.

But the last unfortunate appearance that I made,

it didn't matter because I won.

Because those who had an eye to see and hear

heard everything that was necessary.

It became a confirmation of

Freddie always saying that the media will never

understand what we're doing.

The mass world isn't ready to hear what we have to say.

We're only here for the selected few,

who will get the message we have to bring to them.

After the show, I got a letter from my dad.

"Dear John, it's with heavy heart

"that I take up my pen and write to you.

"Words cannot describe how I feel about Frederick.

Evil, sinister, a fake are just a few that come to mind."

He can't imagine anyone would ever want to be associated

with Frederick, and anyone who would

has to have their head examined.

And I assume that you were

also on Arcturus as well,

although it does not say that here.

That's right.

I was furious to say that he was from Arcturus.

I said, John, you were born in Syracuse, New York.

And I held you in my arms.

But afterwards, I was dictated by Frederick

a letter to write back to my dad.

It says, "Dad, it was not with heavy heart,

"but with empty pocketbook that you wrote to me.

I basically have no respect for you..."

"Because you are spineless and have allowed yourself

"to be manipulated all your life.

"You operate under the whip of a wife

"who uses everything to get what she wants.

You have never been man enough to stand up to her."

Deprogramming from Frederick's mind control,

it was completely disorienting.

John and I were very much holding on to each other

and supporting each other,

as he realized that everything he had believed in

had been used falsely.

He struggled with that.

I was able to help John just to start detoxing.

But we had difficult things to think about.

Our absolute identity has just been wiped.

And we have nothing in common except the group,

Eternal Values, and the fact that

we've been through something.

It made a good friendship, you know,

but I did not feel like his wife.

I was able to get an annulment,

and I really tried to go back to my life.

But I felt a lot of shame.

I mean, it was really embarrassing,

because I thought that I knew better.

And it made me angry.

This group's been around for a while.

These people are known.

No one said anything.

So that's why I contacted the DA's office.

I told them about the group and about Frederick's gemstones

and who he sold this to and that to.

The DA's office took it on.

I was asked to participate undercover.

I went with the detective in the Diamond District

to substantiate some of the claims

I was making into the gemstone sales side of it.

Because Freddie's appraisals that he got from his guy

were pretty darn high, so the values were always

inflated on these appraisals.

And that's how Frederick was getting a great deal of money.

I don't think that they were totally worthless like glass,

but Frederick would add on a certain amount

to the appraisal.

40% more, 50%, 60%, 70%, whatever Frederick said.

The DA's office started building their case.

They said they were very close with what they were finding.

You know, we are seeing some stuff here.

So John and I were working together

to get this story out.

And I wanted to let people know that,

one, this group exists, and two,

these things can happen to anybody.

The next thing I know,

Marie Brenner from "Vanity Fair"

had heard about Frederick,

and she wanted to interview us,

and we agreed.

And the whole idea was I would do the interview

and help Brenner with whatever I could share about the story.

When the "Vanity Fair" article happened,

they actually photographed Frederick.

And at that point, he'd just had his, like, fifth facelift,

and he still was willing to have them come in

and have his picture taken.

I definitely felt that was a mistake.

Frederick looked tired and run down.

And we told him, we suspected that

it was probably going to paint the Eternal Values

in a negative light.

But he was so confident, and he laughed.

Like, he didn't worry.

He never worried about anything.

He did things fearlessly.

He was a pioneer.

I was out running errands.

And I go into the 7-Eleven.

And I was just like, is that--

am I tripping right now?

Like, what?

What is--really?

I'm walking down the street.

I see this magazine with Kathleen Turner on the cover.

And in the little corner, it says,

"The Ford Models and the Alien from Arcturus."

Like, what--what is this?

Here are all these pictures of Hoyt,

pictures of Catherine.

Here's a picture of all of my friends.

And you're all saying that we're some wacko group.

I was really furious.

Like, how could John and Jacki do this?

Smear lies and twist truths,

you know, to make Frederick look bad.

But as horrific as that was, it got much worse.

Not all cult members have shaved heads

or glazed expressions.

One might be your next door neighbor.

One might be the person who commutes

to work with you in the morning.

Or they may be among the most glamorous people in the world.

They're top professional models

represented by the prestigious Ford Modeling Agency.

They're also members of a cult called Eternal Values.

When "Inside Edition" thing came out, I was livid.

Bob and Terry Hoyt brought up their six children

in Berwyn, Pennsylvania.

My mother and dad told their side of the story,

and they really threw Frederick under the bus.

It was just a great, big phony sham.

It only widened the chasm between me and my family,

and I treated it as, this is an example

of what Frederick warned me about,

that--that you can't trust your family,

and they're never going to understand what you're doing.

John, with his charisma, was able to go out

and seek out the women

and bring them back to Frederick.

Frederick Von Mierers and some of his followers

engaged in bizarre sexual activities.

How could he convince his followers

to do something like that?

I don't know.

I shudder to think about what these men and women

are going to deal with for the rest of their lives.

I felt incredibly proud of having been the whistleblower.

Everyone within the industry started talking about this.

It started becoming the model cult.

I remember, I was going through "Vanity Fair"

and looking at it and thinking, what is this?

And Hoyt's name was in it, and I went, "Oh, my God."

But I saw the name Frederick Von Mierers.

I couldn't believe it was really him,

'cause I hadn't seen him in years.

His skin was so smooth.

I remember it looked more like a mask.

And it was odd to see a man that age looking like that.

What age he was roughly when you met him originally?

I would say it was early 20s.

Freddie had no reputation when I met him.

I mean, he was just a young kid in modeling.

And he was very secretive about his family.

I rather come from a very rich family

and give everything away.

I'm not here to gain money.

Do you have a trust fund from your wealthy family?

Yes.

Why don't you give that money back?

Because it's not yours. You're from Arcturus.

That money belongs here in the United States.

We thought he had been like a prince

and had given up this worldly life

to now live a spiritual life.

We had all been reading these Ruth Montgomery books,

and we just took it as truth.

Reared at 68th Street and Park Avenue.

His parents died in an automobile accident.

Frederick traveled the high roads of Europe,

meeting socially with the Queen of England.

Nantucket, Aristocrat, Walk-In from another planet.

Frederick had two sides--

Frederick Von Mierers the name, the affected voice,

the pretension, the clothing, the jewels, all of that--

I mean, to me, it was like he was still Freddie Meyer,

a nice boy from Brooklyn, New York.

Back in the '60s, when I was a model,

I was the brunette,

and Freddy Mierers was the blonde.

But Freddy and I hit it off

because he told me he came from Brooklyn.

I lived right on the border of Bensonhurst,

and he lived in Bay Ridge.

"Frederick Von Mierers," you know,

that was all an act to me.

I used to think he was a great actor.

To me, he came from Brooklyn.

He was a fucking kid from Brooklyn.

In the '60s, he would tell me things

about his earlier life, to which he totally

disowned later on in life.

I remember him telling me that his mom was 16

when he was born.

But it was all too much, I think, for his mom,

who was so young, to deal with him.

So he was living mostly, I think, with an aunt

and a grandmother.

He was sort of on his own.

I got a sense that he just hustled his way

from one situation to another.

That's probably why he changed his name,

so that people really couldn't trace him

to be the nice boy from Brooklyn.

Frederick adapted himself to fit into those places.

The Upper East Side kind of society.

I think once he caught a wind of it

and saw the other world that he could grab onto,

he held onto it dearly.

It was as if Brooklyn never existed.

He studied everything.

He studied every person.

He knew everything about them.

But the most important thing--

if somebody was a little insecure,

he'd make them feel secure,

which the modeling world was perfect for him.

Many members of the Eternal Values

are doing modeling in New York and being very successful.

A lot of models are not by nature secure people.

You all want a fairy tale, don't you?

The very fact that you seek a beautiful girl,

a beautiful boy, a perfect life means

you all want a fairy tale on Earth.

They grow up not really trusting the fact

that people like them for who they are

and just like them for their looks.

Freddie was very sharp about all of that.

Before the "Vanity Fair" article broke,

people only talked about Hoyt in terms of his career

with awe because he was effortlessly working

with all the best people back-to-back.

At no time were there any remarks, veiled or otherwise,

about his private life until the day

the article hit the newsstand.

He was an enigma.

He was a huge star.

And then this word came out,

and these whispers went around the business.

And it was kind of titillating in a way.

You know, it was, ooh, drama.

Did you hear about Hoyt?

Hoyt was always such an amazing guy.

And I thought, OK, right now, he's been misguided.

And I used to tell him.

I said, I don't know about these people.

And I remember all the other-- you know, all the other models,

they were, like, making fun of him,

and I was always defending him, because he was my friend.

It was interesting.

You know, I've known Hoyt throughout the years,

but I don't think that Hoyt ever

really spoke about Frederick.

When I read the article in "Vanity Fair,"

I wanted to call Hoyt, and I wanted to call people about it.

And I thought, no, I'm not going down that road.

Did you ever think about it?

No, I wouldn't bring it up to Hoyt because

that was his-- that was his world.

I mean, there are certain things you know with people

that you just don't bring up.

I mean, unless they offer it to you.

It wasn't like I was going to be saving him,

and he didn't look like he needed saving.

After the "Vanity Fair" article hit,

I actually had booked a commercial

down in the Grenadine Islands.

But I got all the way to the Grenadines,

and I'm told to basically turn around and go home

because the client decided I'm too blonde.

But I knew it was because of the article.

A few weeks after the story burst,

I was looking at a year's worth of empty charts.

Everything canceled.

And that was kind of my indication

that this might be the life I'm looking at.

No one's going to want to work with me.

I'm basically going to be taboo.

But if my career is going to end,

I'll just go back to Europe,

I'll see if I can get a couple more jobs,

and I'll leave the business with a good taste in my mouth.

But what I discovered when I got to Europe

is they were fascinated.

And people started to actually book me just to see

if I might do something weird on the job.

Suddenly, there was so much work

that our problem was actually turning it down.

Fresh over from America, let's hear it for TLC!

It actually accelerated my career

and became this huge catapult

that set me into a whole other realm.

First time ever to Russia.

And when I would go on the jobs

right after the "Vanity Fair" article happened...

The true adventure is beginning now.

If someone had the balls to kind of ask me about it,

I would say, well, what do you think?

You guys know me.

I've been in the business for a long time.

Do you actually believe that I would be involved

with what this article was talking about?

And most people were like, "No, I wouldn't think so."

I said, yeah, it's not true.

It's not true.

None of it's true.

My career actually became much better

than it ever had before the "Vanity Fair" article.

And I got the biggest job I ever did,

which was this editorial for Mondo Uomo.

They devoted the entire magazine

to one model, which was me.

It's never been done, ever.

I've never seen any model, male or female, do this.

It's just a list of amazing, amazing photographers,

and they're shooting their visions of Hoyt.

It was a male model at the very, very top.

Hoyt Richards is the highest paid male model in the world,

but you wouldn't know it by talking to him.

Success has never gone to his head.

Around that time,

I got booked on a job with Jacki.

And I tell you, and looking back on it,

I wonder, like, if people did that intentionally or not.

I have no idea.

I wouldn't put it past the fashion industry.

I mean, the whole industry knew.

So it was really ironic to me-- and horrifying--

the industry would put me with this guy.

It was a couple's shoot,

and I had to be his girlfriend or his wife

or somebody in this picture.

I mean, it was horrible,

because as a professional, I got that shoot done.

I did it.

But it really hurt, because it seemed like

he thought it was hysterically funny.

He wasn't very nice at all.

I don't remember specifically

how I handled myself or what I said to her,

but I certainly know my intent

was to make her feel terrible about what she had done.

I pretty much became a laughing stock.

But I won't back down from speaking truth,

even if it makes me look ridiculous.

And I was aware of the fact that

this would have an incredibly negative impact on my career,

because at least at that time,

it was just, you were--

this idea of being a perfect canvas,

no history, no nothing.

They could just imprint

whatever they wanted on your image.

I was saying things that weren't--

they weren't something people wanted to hear.

I did try to keep going on for a while,

but it was pretty much

the end of my career as a model.

Pretty much.

First of all, tell us what you're wearing.

I wasn't willing to go to that place to say that

a lot of this is true.

It was more about a strong sense of betrayal from her.

I reacted in a way where I just dug in my heels even more.

Never underestimate the power of denial.

You just stuff those feelings down

and you throw it away,

throw it away and pretend you're not--

you gaslight your own goddamn self.

I've done things that, you know,

I would have only, you know, read about in books.

And so, for me, it's been like living your fairy tale.

But the reality is, the "Vanity Fair" article

was like setting off an atom bomb in Eternal Values,

because Frederick died

five days before the "Vanity Fair" article hit.

So you were there when Frederick passed?

Yes.

Did you understand that he just died of natural causes?

Um...

You didn't hear anything nefarious about his passing?

Oh, I did.

I definitely did.

Did what?

I heard nefarious things about Frederick's passing.

And--but you were there.

Ask the question.

I wanted to know what happened.

What was the situation?

What were the circumstances?

Put me in that motherfucking place.

I need to know. I need to know.

I mean, the leader died, for Christ's sake.

And I keep saying "died."

I keep saying "died."

He didn't die.

They killed him.

I don't have any problems saying that.

They killed him.