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Yeah, that's great.

It's a problem if everybody sits,

like, right by the camera.

Good. That's better. OK.

What you're taught and what I was taught

from a very, very young age--

I was being privy to some almost secret information

that only a very select few were going

to be, you know, allowed to understand.

And anyone, anyone who would try to take me off that path

would be considered an enemy.

Hoyt, how much money were you putting in

or had you put in in a year's time?

It totaled in the millions.

You gave them millions of dollars?

Everything I made.

I was literally caught in a mental prison.

Our guests this morning believe that they are

our space brothers and sisters.

Let me introduce you to them right now.

Frederick von Mierers is known as a walk-in.

He claims that he walked into his body nine years ago.

Hoyt is also a follower of Frederick,

and he claims to have known Frederick in another life

in ancient Egypt.

Is it just a coincidence that all of you

are, like, gorgeous people?

Hoyt Richards is the highest-paid

male model in the world.

World's most famous male supermodel.

The sexiest male model alive.

Even when I was at the height of my career,

taking transatlantic flights

and staying in five-star hotels,

I'd go back to New York, where I was rolling out a mat

and sleeping on the floor.

It was this kind of double life that I lived.

Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm Frederick von Mierers with another platform,

the Eternal Values.

Frederick is the self-anointed

guru of Eternal Values.

His followers appear to be among the best

and the brightest.

Supermodels, influential people.

All the people here went to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton.

Frederick told everyone,

this is your destiny now.

All we are here to do is to help everyone.

We were all part of this special faction,

dynasty, vanguard, family, group.

We're here to serve and to work.

You would get dressed up

and get taken to a nightclub in a limo,

and then you'd come back to silence.

Or you can be dancing at the Palladium

till dawn and still maintain a spiritual life.

But Freddy always wanted the beauties.

Bring me the beauties, the beautiful people.

Yeah, it was all about beautiful people.

This man did more damage to more talented

and attractive young people.

Just underneath the surface,

there was all kinds of criminal shit.

I really feel he raped them of their soul and their mind.

Within Eternal Values,

everything was draped in this idea

that this is the way you could become

a better version of yourself, become more enlightened,

become a better person,

a better friend, a better citizen.

It just took me 20 years to figure out

that's not what it was.

A man who had the power to control lives and used it

in the most frightening way--

we're going to take you inside a cult.

I'm against cults.

Don't anybody try to tell me that I am in a cult.

Frederick, you claim you're

from another planet, right?

Yes, and I did come from Arcturus.

You're going into the most crucial

period of Earth's history, the storms

that will beset humanity.

We must warn you.

We're here to warn you of these things.

We are sincere.

That's good.

All right.

Where does this story begin?

When I was 16, I was on Nantucket.

Every year, we always went to Nantucket.

Nantucket's this nostalgic place.

It was just what I identify with summer and good times.

I was one of six kids, so there was never a dull moment.

We were just a tribe.

We'd all go to the beach together.

We'd go waterskiing.

We'd all go have picnics.

But one word I could say about Nantucket--

it was safe.

Or at least I perceived it to be.

One day, I was at the beach with a group of friends,

and this gentleman puts his towel down next to me

and begins immediately engaging me in a conversation.

He talked about Eastern religion

and ancient civilizations,

little smattering of astrology.

He started drawing yin and yang signs in the sand

and talking about the balance of the universe.

I'm like, oh, this must be this guy

Frederick von Mierers,

or Freddy, I've heard about.

Oh, is that gonna be a problem?

OK.

Oh, OK. Yeah.

Well, it's funny, because when I think back on him,

it was Frederick, because it was very reverent.

And the reason I call him Freddy now

is because I know he would probably

hate being called Freddy.

And for me, it's just this tool that I use

to reframe this experience on my terms now,

rather than the terms he demanded.

But back on Nantucket, you know,

my friends had already met Freddy

and thought he was a cool guy.

He was this big socialite from New York,

so he was throwing a party almost every night.

And he was known to say, only invite the beauties.

Just the beauties-- not your friends,

just the beauties.

He would just have this eclectic

group of people around him.

I came to learn that they were kind of a who's who

from the New York scene.

You know, I was quite impressed that he

seemed to be a worldly guy.

He was into astrology and Eastern philosophy.

And I remember him thinking I could follow

what he was saying, and a lot of it, I didn't follow.

But Freddy was so incredibly friendly,

and I noticed that he spoke to me like I was an adult,

which I really appreciated.

When I was 16, most of my life was

thinking about scoring touchdowns,

chasing girls, and drinking beer.

But when I really watched Frederick doing a horoscope

right there on the spot...

I thought he was a little odd and strange.

But he was very funny...

And really excited about it.

It was just like magic.

It's WBAB Babylon.

My guest is Frederick von Mierers,

who's been kind enough to join us tonight

and interrupt his summer on the island of Nantucket.

May I say something to all the people out there?

Look within yourself.

And that which you know is true about yourself, admit it.

So Frederick did this radio show.

People would call in.

Hello, my name is Robert.

- This is Marian. - My name is Hamid.

It became clear that Frederick

really wanted to help people.

I've talked to you before, haven't I?

Yes, you have, about two years ago.

Can you tell me if I'm gonna be

successful in my personal life?

I look at this chart.

Tears almost come to my eyes.

You are the most beautiful human being.

Bless your heart.

It was just this compassion and empathy.

I was drawn to it.

And that's just kind of the way it evolved.

In the summers, I would see him,

and we just started to build a bit of a friendship,

and I really didn't think a lot of it.

My youth, I was very invested in my friendships,

because my relationship with my mother was complicated.

I felt she was too controlling and wouldn't actually

see me for what I really was.

She had a strong idea of what all her kids should be--

doctor, lawyer, Ivy League graduate.

And my mother, I always felt like she

knew better how I should live my life than I did.

I did well at school.

I had friends.

I did well at sports.

But my mother, she always had a criticism.

You come home from school and you say, oh, I got a 95.

Well, why didn't you get 100?

And quite honestly, I had issues with that,

and we used to bang heads.

I mean, at that point, I was actually top of my class.

When I got to college, I discovered

the freedom it brings.

I played football.

My roommates at college were football players.

Used to pride ourselves in the sense that on a night,

we could party with the best.

We had the beer flowing.

Like, where's the next party? Let's go have some fun.

And that's when I started to tell people

I knew this guy from New York who seems

to like to throw parties.

And so I reached out to Frederick.

Hello. It's Frederick.

And that's the point where he said, well, oh, my God,

if you're gonna be in New Jersey,

you should come to New York.

Come up with a couple friends, and we'll go to Studio 54,

you know, meet all my friends.

And I'm thinking, awesome.

I mean, the first time I went there,

there's this massive group outside.

But Freddy knew the doorman,

and literally, it's like the parting of the Red Sea.

We got all whisked right in.

The first girl I saw was wearing

nothing but Scotch tape.

There were piles of cocaine on tables,

and people were literally fucking on the dance floor.

And I just thought, I don't want to ever leave.

Freddy, he loved to be out there,

just wanting to bring people together.

He would say, we're blasted off in life.

I'm blasted off all the time.

I have the energy of someone 19,

and I can dance all night, have a great time.

After this wild night out at Studio 54,

Frederick would invite a bunch of people

back to his apartment.

405 East 54th Street, apartment 4N,

has a naturally high frequency.

But I had no idea what to expect

walking through that door.

It was like time did not exist in there.

It smelled like it had just had a fresh rain.

It was like walking through the looking glass

in "Alice in Wonderland."

That was Frederick's vision of the world.

So I just looked at it as, what a cool adventure I'm on.

4N was like a turnstile.

People were coming through the front door all the time,

people that really looked at Frederick,

really kind of respected him.

He had a sidekick, this guy named John Andreadis.

With me this evening, I have, of course, the eternal cohost,

John Andreadis.

John was my age.

He was going to Columbia at the time,

and they just started this public access show.

John?

At Columbia, I found that it was quite limited--

the facilities--in terms of the deeper spiritual

search among the students.

It came on very late at night.

And I remember asking Frederick,

who's gonna see this?

And he'd be like, oh, no, oh, dear,

you don't understand.

People who can't sleep, and they're troubled--

that's when we will be reaching the people

that really need to hear it.

Also on my right, I have Paul Hinton.

The fifth element behind all creation is the ether.

My adoptive mother had passed away when I was 13.

The craving I had was for that continual mentoring

that good parenting would provide.

All of us are learning from each other.

Frederick, he was, like, this incredible teacher.

Let's not judge each other in the wrong way.

Let's judge each other in the right way

and then help each other.

When I first met Frederick, I think I was 14.

Kimberly Wong from San Francisco.

I was already into the spiritual world.

The young people of today realize so much more

at so much of a younger age.

Her parents thought she was up in Lake Tahoe.

Instead, she hops on a plane and comes to New York.

I came from California to New York,

got away with it three times.

I was working as an accountant,

but I wasn't good in a relationship.

I was terrible at my job.

And that's when I first heard Frederick.

Realize there are no mistakes in this world.

There's no fear. There's no guilt.

There's no failures.

I was 22.

I was working at a restaurant at night, and in comes Freddy.

You know, he was-- he was striking,

like, fit-- not an ounce of body fat,

tiny waist, and these piercing blue eyes.

And he grabs my hand.

He goes, dear, you're so mad.

When's your birthday?

However--

He seemed happier than anybody else

that I'd ever met.

That's the way I want to be.

After I'd been dumped, I was heartbroken.

But when I met Frederick,

there was a joy, when he was in that frequency,

that was contagious.

I have with me tonight Kimberly Wong,

duchess of Northern California.

Frederick was always elevating you.

Frederick was always looking for some kind

of endearing nickname.

Your Majesties!

Darling!

He used to call me Nefertiti.

Oh, you must meet Lord H. That was my nickname.

Lord Andreadis, the eternal cohost.

Wait a second, Maestro.

I send you a thousand kisses, Wonder Child.

Let's not carry on here, Childean.

He said, how are you doing, Childean?

He said, you're home.

His Childeans for a long time.

Frederick called us Childeans.

But the Chaldeans, in real life,

were a priestly group

dedicated to godly, elevated work.

And this was something that we hoped to achieve.

So it was like, "Dean" became like a last name.

Oh, where's John Dean?

Where's Kimber Dean?

And so this was whole way of creating our own culture.

In that circle, Frederick had 20 to 25,

even 30 people.

And the real unifying force was this spiritual commitment.

You have to remember, this is the '80s.

In the 1980s, the young urban professionals,

the yuppies, are transforming the economic system.

There was so much materialism going on

in New York at the time.

Wall Street, 8:30 AM.

Many barely out of college, the financial community's

best and brightest rushing to become the richest.

But Frederick and his friends

found a way, somehow, to balance it all.

You can have a relationship with the Western world,

in the business community of Wall Street banking,

and still maintain a spiritual life.

In the '80s, this New Age thing was picking up speed.

They see mankind at the threshold of a new era

which will usher in a time of peace, harmony,

and unprecedented progress.

People were starting to pay attention to yoga,

to astrology and gurus.

This is catching on like wildfire.

Naturally, yuppies didn't want

to be caught up with all these spiritual whack jobs.

We have all these mad people like Elizabeth Clare Prophet,

all these people that set themselves up

as New Age leaders.

Most of them are all frauds.

Freddy was really like a bridge

between the yuppies and the New Age.

He was unlike any of the other gurus.

You know, he was the Brooks Brothers version.

We all wear Brooks Brothers clothing with a few pink shirts

and some ties.

Very preppy, very put together,

and very demanding with everyone

to be at the top of their game

with the way they would dress and carry themselves.

Frederick was modeling better ways to do everything.

You know, everybody's on the same diet.

Lots of green and mixed vegetable juices,

peaches, pears, blueberries, raspberries,

dates, figs, mangoes, guavas...

Frederick said, you should be beautifying.

Keep yourself healthy and strong and fit.

Glowing, shining, radiant health

comes through discipline.

Frederick loved being tan.

He was always tan, which meant all of us were always tan.

He actually got his own tanning bed.

You are dancing through your business day

on Wall Street or as a lawyer, as doctor,

as a butcher, baker, candlestick maker.

You're always happy.

You live your life to the utmost perfection,

and it will contribute something to the world.

You become part of God's higher cocktail party on Earth.

It's God's higher cocktail party on Earth.

You know, it should be fun.

It should be vivacious.

We should literally be enjoying life on that level

all the time.

Sure, it's a cocktail party,

but don't drink; don't do drugs.

The worst thing is alcohol and smoking.

Oh, you always have to stay away from anything that's bad.

Frederick, he wanted us aware of our emotions.

And if you could become aware of your emotions,

then you could control your emotions.

You were to renounce sexual activity of any sort.

Jesus, Ramakrishna, Buddha did not come to promise you

another piece of ass.

The group was living kind of a very monastic kind of life,

so there wasn't sex going on.

It was wonderful, because all we cared about

was relationship without the sexuality.

I was making trips into New York to visit Freddy.

But when I was at college,

my main focus was football still.

And my junior year, my shoulders

started giving me some issues.

That's when the trainer basically said, listen,

I just think it's time.

I don't think-- you know, I don't think

you can do this anymore.

I remember being devastated,

and I really had an identity crisis.

The idea of giving up football

was really hard to kind of stomach.

I was like, what am I gonna do now?

But at that time was really when Freddy kind of

came in and offered to do my--

what he called a life reading.

The life reading was intended to be a total transformation.

It was 90 minutes of character analysis.

Frederick would like to look at the stars

and see patterns in people's lives.

I remember being quite captivated with it.

I listened to it several, several times.

The truth was that that wasn't inaccurate.

I felt insecure.

And without football, I was really

kind of lost in the ocean, like a ship without a rudder.

And at that time was really when Freddy kind of came in

and said, well, you know, I think you should consider

coming to New York and think about modeling or acting.

And I was like, what?

And I--and he told me that he had been

a model when he was younger.

But I was very uncomfortable thinking about being a model.

It just didn't-- no one I knew was a model.

It just didn't seem like something

that I would ever enjoy.

Just do it.

There's no try. There's do or do not.

That's the whole trip.

But actually, at the time,

John Andreadis was doing some commercials.

And John said, I've got to go by and see my agent.

Maybe when he sees you, he might be interested.

I'm like, that's ludicrous.

Sure enough, I was sitting in the lobby,

and this one agent sticks his head out.

He's like, are you an actor?

And I go, no, no, I'm a football player.

He looks at me, goes, you do have a good look, though.

I think I could get you some work.

I did my first photo shoot,

saw some photos of myself, and said,

maybe I can do this.

I got a couple bigger jobs.

The next thing I know, checks start arriving.

And I start to go, oh, you can actually

make some money doing this.

And by the time my senior year came around,

I actually paid for my tuition,

I felt like a rock star.

Your old behavioral patterns are preventing you from being

the best you can be at everything.

I started to change.

I had a necklace like Frederick,

and I had the rings like Frederick.

4N was painted in these wild colors

called Twilight Chimes.

I painted my room in college that color.

My diet got very, very strict and healthy.

You have learned a great deal about the world, John.

Now learn about yourself.

I was becoming a more evolved, better me.

So I was like, I'm learning the real knowledge.

I'm not getting that knowledge here at university.

But my senior year,

my roommates got very concerned.

They actually went to the school therapist at one point

and said, we're really concerned about our roommate.

He's eating really healthy.

He's, like-- doesn't party anymore.

It's like--and the therapist is like, doesn't sound too bad.

It's not like he's doing anything dangerous.

During the spring of 1985,

John had been spending a lot of time in New York,

and John's roommates and my parents

had arranged this meeting

to kind of confront John about his changes in behavior.

I was talking to your roommates,

and they were so worried about the stories

that Frederick was telling you.

It was clear my parents started

to become really concerned.

I went up to New York and got John Andreadis,

and then we came down and met my parents.

And my brother, Rory, came there as well.

I wanted to set the record straight,

let my parents know there's nothing to be worried about.

John and I, when we were growing up,

we were real close.

We did everything together.

So I was giving John the benefit of the doubt.

I was saying, OK, he wants to do something

different at this time.

This was a healthy rebellion.

I'm just gonna let it go.

But there was really very little

of the old, familiar John

there in that meeting.

So it was a very contentious meeting.

John Andreadis, he talked so fast,

you couldn't, you know, keep track.

And all the people were really weird when we met with them.

And you'd start to talk, and they'd say,

oh, he doesn't really understand that.

He means this.

My mother said, oh, you showed up with all

these cronies and all that.

Because she just looked at these people

as a bad influence.

The truth is relative in this dimension.

This is a world of opposites.

Therefore, nobody's in any position...

I felt like I wasn't being seen.

I felt like I wasn't being heard.

They had not had the conversations I had had.

They had not read the things I had read.

So they're just wrong.

My mother started calling it a cult.

And that was one of the things that really,

really rubbed me wrong.

I'm not in a cult. I would never join a cult.

I think, like, that's ludicrous.

I was going to Studio 54 and all these great parties

in New York.

Cults don't do that.

But there was definitely not very much agreement

or common ground being found.

And we basically--it ended with it just being a stalemate.

I remember afterwards, Frederick said,

if you don't change, you're gonna turn out

to be just like your father or just like your mother.

Never want to be that.

No mother, no father, no brother, no sister,

no country, no family have any of you.

Your only mother is Mother Nature,

and your only father is God.

And the rest is an illusion.

My parents had, you know, never been really comfortable

saying, I love you.

But within the group, we all hugged each other,

and it was very kind of touchy-feely.

And I remember thinking to myself,

that's what I really needed, an expression of love.

We spend all our time together, all of us,

and we're just one big happy family.

We have a great time.

Frederick was saying, listen, well,

after you graduate college,

you should come and live with us,

and you can be part of this whole group

and what we're doing.

But my family was not happy at all.

They were against it.

And so graduation, there's all this tension.

And the next day after graduation, I was gone.

I was trying to do what Frederick said:

release yourself from your past.

Detach from your family.

I'm gonna really give it a shot

and try and pursue the spiritual life

at whatever cost.

This platform, I will surrender

and turn over to John Hoyt.

Thank you.

Thank you, Frederick.

I think the most common problem...

When I moved into 4N, I had, like,

a 3x3 compartment in the closet that was mine,

and everything else was communal.

In that building, they had, like, six apartments.

Frederick used to say these were all

chambers in the pyramid,

just like we were back in Egypt.

4N was always the apex.

And certainly to live in 4N was considered

an incredibly, you know, heightened position.

Hello.

Get those statues down to me, baby.

This is Frederick. Hurry up.

Frederick ran his house

with a ton of discipline, like a ship.

Work hard, not just for yourself

but for everyone else as well.

All of us do that to live a life of excellence.

A lot of people still had their own jobs.

There was an architect.

There was a lawyer.

There was a guy who was a computer specialist.

And the group had this very high-end painting business,

where they would take a lot

of the interior design approach

that Frederick had as far as colors and color schemes.

They actually did a lot of the painting in the apartments.

It was always kind of seeing everybody helping,

you know, what's best for the cause or the group.

And for me, I would wake up and do my chores

before I left the apartment to go even to a modeling job--

vacuuming, polishing the mirrors.

There was always people coming in,

and more or less, every night, there would be a group dinner.

And then we would go to bed at night.

4N, there would be six people sleeping there at night.

And it's not very big, so you would just

roll out this 1-inch futon.

We would just fall asleep side by side like, you know,

little matchsticks in a box.

It was so casual, it didn't feel weird at all.

Sometimes Frederick would tiptoe out

in the middle of the night, and he

would come and put kind of, like, this mint mask on,

like, oh, dear, oh, let's keep your pores

really nice and tight.

You've got beautiful skin. Let's--

You know, so he'd come and he'd dab the stuff on my face

and dab it on Hoyt's face.

And we all just accepted it as the culture there.

Some of my favorite times with Frederick

would be early Sunday morning.

We would meet in this little, tiny kitchen

and just have coffee and just have

these wonderful, quiet conversations.

It wasn't the same sprightly person that was--

you know, it was just-- it was wonderful.

But there was a real person under there

that really did care.

He really cared.

I'm only like Peter Pan in my consciousness,

and I'm grateful to be surrounded

by some of the most beautiful and brilliant

young people in this country.

Apparently, there was this woman,

Mrs. Earl Kress Williams.

He said she was a very wealthy socialite

and introduced him to the whole social life.

He kind of let in on some level

that he was maybe a trust fund kid.

He was always a part of the social world

that was going on in New York.

From Paley to the Rockefellers,

Frederick fit into those places

because he was so charming and good-looking.

Back in the '60s, I was one of his agents.

That's it.

When he was young, as a model,

Frederick was apple pie, all-American.

And he was very intelligent.

He was very smart and very quick on the dime.

And maybe the most important thing--

he was in the Social Register, which was a list

of people who were considered

the most influential in New York.

He had been to the best cities, best restaurants...

But ultimately became a really big partier.

During that time, he had a lot of pain

emotionally and physically, was just desperate

and contemplating suicide.

I went to the doctor.

And of course, he held my pulse.

Frederick had had an experience

of what can be described as near death in January of 1978.

He had this high fever of 104 degrees

from an inner ear infection, and some other soul

or energy came into him.

This is when the new Frederick walked

into the body of the old Frederick,

so he would technically have the memories

of the old Frederick but was a whole new being.

He was shown by this voice

that spoke like a biblical prophet--

he was shown past lives.

He was shown the funeral of himself

as the Pharaoh Akhenaten in Egypt.

Ruth Montgomery was a very well-known psychic

who wrote a lot of books

about the concept of alien walk-ins.

As soon as he read that, he realized that that's

what happened to him.

Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ consciousness was a walk-in.

Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson,

Mohandas K. Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln--

these were all walk-ins.

He remembered traveling from the star Arcturus.

And he had been told, find the Arcturians.

And he was told he had 10 years,

and he was to meet and train potential future leaders

for the coming times of sorrow, of tribulation.

He would say, you're one of the people

I've been looking for.

You all are the leaders of the new age.

You may not recognize me, but I recognize your soul.

And he's telling you this.

He's staring you straight in the eye.

So someone saying that to you is really powerful.

According to Ruth Montgomery,

Arcturus was considered to be one

of the highest spiritual planes in the universe.

In fact, people were kind of excited to find out

if maybe they were a walk-in.

Do you think that it's possible

that there are people or spirits or something

down here that are unexplained?

Ruth does.

What do you say to those people who are completely skeptical?

Through my writings...

You know, Ruth Montgomery used to be

a political journalist.

So she had this incredible credibility...

Was internationally renowned for 30 years

and head of "The Washington Post's" political arena.

As time went on, she developed psychic abilities

and just became hugely popular.

Do they know that they are aliens?

Not always at first, no.

But they feel lost here.

They keep not feeling at home on Earth,

and they keep looking at the stars

and wishing they could go home.

I've talked to an awful lot of people like that.

Ruth Montgomery talks about walk-ins in one of her books.

John actually reached out to her at one point

and said, oh, you should meet my teacher.

It's Frederick.

Frederick and Ruth, they just hit it off.

This is Ruth Montgomery,

and I'm overwhelmed.

The perfectly beautiful necklace

and bracelet just came today.

In her next book,

she wrote four chapters about Frederick.

And that was really when the game changed.

Frederick von Mierers, scion of an illustrious

old New York family, sold all of his antiques

and luxurious furnishings and dedicated himself

to a life of service to humanity.

And in this book, she confirmed

that Frederick was a walk-in.

The name of the book again is "Aliens Among Us."

Which is out now,

will be a bestseller, "Aliens Among Us."

When "Aliens Among Us" became a bestseller,

Frederick was getting thousands of inquiries.

Thousands of letters, which is hard to believe,

I understand, but you must realize we've had all

these books written about us.

"Aliens Among Us" really catapulted him

into this New Age superstardom.

People from all over the world

started to learn who Frederick was.

I mean, we found out even Sammy Hagar from Van Halen

had read "Aliens Among Us"

and he loved the idea of walk-ins.

And we never had a label for the group until,

all of a sudden, it became necessary.

And that's when we came up with the name Eternal Values.

Good evening.

I'm Frederick von Mierers with another platform,

The Eternal Values.

We had a business.

We started doing lectures and audiotapes.

All of you who want lectures,

they will be sent to you free, which is almost

a $20,000 academic course.

We had an offshoot business,

Ultimate Fitness Opportunities.

It was a play on UFO.

We sold supplements, books, and exercise equipment.

This evening, we will be discussing

a kindergarten foundation to spirituality.

Frederick's Rolodex was quite extensive,

different celebrities or people of prominence.

I remember Freddy's like,

I have to go see Lord Stallone, and I'm like, can't be.

But Stallone comes to the front door,

and he goes, hey, Fred.

Frederick had gone to Mr. Chow's with Grace Jones.

After "Aliens Among Us,"

Frederick had been finally validated.

Eternal Values was exploding, and it felt

like anything is possible.

You can make all the money in the world, which is great,

and you should.

But you're never going to be happy unless you

strive to change yourself.

Just felt like everything

had kind of been dialed up on steroids, you know?

Like, now it was time to really kind of step up.

And I remember, at that point,

Frederick sent me in to see Joey Hunter,

the head of the men's division at Ford Models.

And Joey was just, like, the ultimate guy's guy.

Hello.

Marian, Joey.

I'm doing an interview about--

remember Freddy von Mierers and the aliens?

Oy, vey.

I think it was one of those things where they said

the aliens were invading your body

and some shit like that.

I thought Freddy was off the wall.

I mean, I used to say to Freddy,

what do you--what aliens?

The fuck are you talking about?

But while I was at Ford, Freddy, of course--

you know, he'd call me up and say, I found this guy.

Would you have a look at him?

So one day, Hoyt appeared in our office.

He was that beautiful-looking guy from Princeton,

good background.

And he had a great look.

But at that time, you know, he didn't have the name.

You know, I was born John Richards Hoyt.

And I always liked the name John,

but I didn't like the fact that it was such a common name.

So I thought maybe it'd be fun to come up

with something different.

I could see "Hoyt Richards" in lights.

You know, maybe that's a good name.

Early on, I did a couple shoots with Bruce Weber.

I remember he put me in, like, a white suit,

put a towel around me,

and that's really the job that put me on the map.

Bruce was always like...

ahh, it's Bruce Weber.

If you work with them, you're gone.

Your career took off.

Do it again.

All of a sudden, I started getting calls

from Ford, like, they want you in Milan.

They want you in Paris.

Hoyt's rise was so fast.

Everybody knew about it within six months.

He had that movie star look that you would

have had with Clark Gable.

He looked like more than just a face.

And there wasn't anybody around like him

at that particular point.

Suddenly there were campaigns

that were not just a single shot.

There were four or five pages.

And you would see Hoyt, and you'd

see him in another magazine.

You'd see him in a commercial.

You would see him in one thing after the other.

It was like a freight train.

And the fashion industry at that time,

it was Christy.

It was Cindy.

It was Claudia, Linda, Naomi.

But when I entered the business,

there had been this whole new movement where

athletes were becoming models.

No sweat.

There was a period where it really

felt like it was just, Hoyt and I

were up for all the same jobs.

Occasionally, we were like, oh, why couldn't I

have done that one?

You know, you wanted to do the stuff that Hoyt would do.

He was the talk of the town.

He was a supermodel, a bona fide supermodel.

Today we're going to meet the most beautiful man

in the world, Hoyt Richards.

What I loved about being a male model

was the kinship and camaraderie amongst the guys.

The first time I met Hoyt was at Ford Model

agency, and we just clicked.

Hi, I'm Fabio.

Fabio was one of the first models I actually met.

He has graced the covers of over 1,000 romance novels.

'80s and '90s were, like, the modeling time.

Life was really, really good.

The top male models can pull down as much

as $10,000 a day strutting their stuff

on high-fashion runways.

Hoyt was extremely successful.

I was extremely successful.

We used to hang out a lot.

- Hoyt. - Yeah.

- That was you and Fabio. - That's right.

You and your dream date.

My dream date, Fabio, yes.

I mean, literally, it was like,

off the Concorde, going to the nightclubs,

being seen by paparazzi.

It was just cracking brilliant,

you know, working five days a week,

all over the world, nonstop.

It was a beautiful life,

traveling the world, nice cars, beautiful clothes.

And we were making, you know, a lot of money, a lot of money.

As my success started to unfold,

I kept thinking the reason I'm miraculously kind of making

this quick rise in that business was

because behind the scenes, I was trying

to live this spiritual life.

I basically kept the Eternal Values part

of my life pretty secretive.

Now, we've shown it with a wool crepe shirt.

I met Hoyt when he was with Ford Model,

which was a partner agency of my London agency.

Everybody in the world had to call

my desk to get time on Hoyt.

I intended for him to be the most successful

model there had ever been.

We had an agreement that I never booked

downtime or holiday time.

And I would say probably around 330 days a year,

he was in the air or in front of a camera.

But no matter where I was,

whatever time zone, I would virtually

check in every day with the group.

I would struggle with the fact that I'm

doing this job that really seems immersed

in what the world would call kind of superficial values.

I'm making money off the fact that I

was basically given a costume

that people seem to find pleasing.

So that didn't seem very spiritual.

But I would rationalize it, saying, well,

if I can use that opportunity to make some money,

this is my best way to contribute

and my way to kind of help out.

As long as you're in the material world, you must act.

Renounce only the selfishness.

You know, it was all about this approach

of nonattachment.

You know, we're gonna be in the material world

but not of the material world.

When you realize your spiritual reality,

then you can live in the material world

and be free and have everything.

Your actions, although they may be the same,

are being motivated by a different force now,

a divine force.

This mindset kept me very humble.

It kept me very unattached to this success I was having.

I would make whatever I'd make.

A certain percentage, I would keep,

knowing I had bills to pay.

But everything else, I gave to Frederick.

It's almost like you would describe

as a total team player who's willing to sacrifice

his own gains for the benefit-- for the team to win.

The mentality around Eternal Values

and the way Frederick operated was,

everybody needed to give everything that they had.

Like, this group was only gonna work if you committed fully.

So if you had money, like I did, you would give it.

If you didn't have money, you would--

you maybe had more time, and you would give your time.

What we produce will be only excellence.

And therefore, the rewards are obvious.

One of the things he said to me was,

he goes, listen, Lord H, you are impossible at times,

but your generosity will always save you in the end.

And I found, the more money that I made,

the more I could give, and the more money I gave,

the more money I made.

Through discipline, we find self-respect.

Through self-respect, we find happiness.

It felt like I'd been given some secret knowledge.

And over time, there was pressure

on us to find our fellow brothers and sisters out there.

And with the lifestyle of living as a model,

my photo shoots were really kind of

used as an active recruiting ground.

I would go in there and rave about

these incredible experiences I was having and felt

almost a duty to share that.

If I came across someone who seemed to be open-minded...

Is that something you've always loved?

Yeah.

Then I would start a conversation

and see if it would go anywhere,

and if it felt like it went somewhere,

then I might introduce them to Frederick.

I saw it as harmless at the time.

And it's not like I--

I wanted this to go down the way it did.

We were really trying to become a sister-

and brotherhood of people that were conscientious

and kind to one another.

But then this whole pattern started

to develop where we also had to watchdog one another.

And if you're acting out of line,

it's demanded that you have to kind of make people

aware of that, and it would usually lead to some sort

of punishment for that person.

We're all under this pressure, you know,

trying to live a better life, a more successful life.

But you knew you were being listened to

and watched all the time.

One day, I had done, like, five hours of laundry,

and I come back up.

It's, like, 3:00 in the morning.

So I get up to 6E, and everyone is there.

It's, like, 20 people there.

And they're just looking at me stone-faced.

Frederick sort of whips around

and, all of a sudden, says, you.

I want you out of here.

I'm just like, what? Is he talking to me?

Oh, hell, he's talking to me.

You've become a total monster.

How dare you?

I didn't feel like I had done anything wrong.

And I burst into tears.

You're so full of shit.

Why are you the way you are?

And everybody would be invited to join in.

We called them "slamming sessions."

So sit your ass down in the chair

and listen to what we're saying.

Just sit down...

Slamming was Frederick's way to get people

to, like, wake up, kind of slam, like--

Can I give you an example of how it would sound?

Yeah.

You fucking idiot!

What the hell do you think you're doing?

They were all too fucking lazy!

Teacher may push you into states of mind

that are very uncomfortable.

Wake up.

Look carefully and change your life.

And if you cannot handle the unexpected,

if you cannot calmly accept how life slaps you in the face,

you'll get nowhere.

So Frederick was a big fan of bringing you experiences

that were unexpected.

Only the serious ones are the only ones

that I'm interested in.

As time went on,

we were asked to be more and more severe.

I didn't see it that way at the time,

but there was writing on the wall.

Looking back, I realized, more and more,

people consistently agreed with everything Frederick ordained.

He was an alien walk-in, a higher being

that stepped into his body.

What's above that? What can control that?

We're just friends. We're everybody's friends.

We're grateful to give forth the information

that we have received and to enlarge

our family of friends, period.

Nothing is asked except that people work hard

and become the best they can be:

wholesome, all-American citizens.

OK.

How are things going?

So tell me if I'm moving too much or too little.

All right.

I just wanted to center you up.

All right.

They called themselves Eternal Values,

and they had the answers to make your life extraordinary.

Jackie Adams was one of the big models of my era.

She had a huge cosmetic contract, Elizabeth Arden.

You'd see her all over the place.

I had worked with Jackie a couple times.

She was in the same agency that I was.

And then she came to the apartment,

and I just acted as kind of a comfort level,

because she knew someone else in the group

that was already there.

I met Frederick, and he said, oh, she's fabulous.

She's in.

Immediately, I found a sense of belonging.

Jackie and John really kind of hit it off.

They spent a lot of time together.

And they started a romantic relationship.

And that was frowned upon.

So it was always like, what's going on?

I mean, this is not what we're supposed to do.

It was never something that I ever imagined occurring,

certainly not to John.

Because John was the golden child.

He was Frederick's protégé.

We knew a sexual relationship would

pull you away from the work

and devotion to Frederick

and the Eternal Values.

The dark side of the force will send,

if it's a man, a woman who is beautiful,

devastating, and everything he wants in the material world.

And here and hereafter, he won't believe

in God or in this work.

You can't play with fire without getting burned.

My experience with Eternal Values

went from happy to scary in a heartbeat.

Anyone who had been taken advantage of by Frederick

didn't say anything.

He was powerful, and his friends were powerful.

They sent out tapes about how we had to be destroyed

and we were evil and all these things.

It was very frightening, actually.

I did not want to be responsible

for another young person getting sucked into this.

It was terrifying.

I did not want to keep silent.