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- [Interviewer] Is there
any threat or danger
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making a film like this?
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- Yeah, you just wait and see.
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You just wait and see.
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(ominous music)
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You have no idea of the far
reaching power of the church.
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They will stop at nothing
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to keep this truth from getting out.
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(ominous music continues)
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(ominous music continues)
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(ominous music continues)
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(peaceful music)
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- [Kip] My name's Kip, I'm
a filmmaker from now LA,
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and I thought I had it figured out.
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My previous films exposed the meat, dairy,
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and fishing industries'
collusion with government,
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big pharma, and nonprofit health
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and environmental organizations.
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And let's just say they
were a bit controversial.
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- This controversial documentary.
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- "What the Health" have you seen this?
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- Yeah, it's filled with
a lot of propaganda.
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- Documentary "Cowspiracy" shielded
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by leading environmental organizations,
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- The diabetes associations,
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they are funded by these meat
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and dairy organizations and
these pharmaceutical companies.
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- Just lump everything together.
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- So off on the science.
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- That is not science, that's a lie.
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- I have an obligation to
set the record straight
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so that people don't die.
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- [Kip] Though I wanted to
be finished with the subject
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of eating animals, I
was constantly reminded
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there was one more piece of
the puzzle I was missing,
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the ethics of eating animals.
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(bell rings)
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And though I consider myself a
quasi-spiritual Buddhist yogi
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because I love crystals, sacred geometry,
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did yoga a few times a week,
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and carried a picture of
the Dalai Lama in my wallet,
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I didn't know much about
the ethics of eating animals
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or where to begin, so I
put the project on hold
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until at a screening and Q
and A for one of my films.
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- Let's get right down to it,
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we'll start off with any questions.
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- 96% of what,
- I heard a question
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I'd never heard before.
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- Is there a spiritual
way to kill an animal?
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I'll put it this way, how
would Jesus kill an animal?
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- Wow, It's a little
much, I'm not religious,
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so I don't think I'm gonna go there.
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So I don't know what to answer about that.
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Little did I know at the time,
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but this bold question would soon launch
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he and I on a journey into uncovering
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one of the biggest coverups
in the last 2,000 years.
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(ominous music)
(pictures flickering)
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But at the time, I didn't
know what to think about it.
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Then after the Q and A, he came up to me
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with his business card saying
he was an aspiring filmmaker
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trying to find a Christian way
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to eat animals and needed help.
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I was highly skeptical,
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but something in my gut
said I had to meet up
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with him the next day where
he was living out of his van.
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And just start, just name who you are.
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- My name is Kam, and
I grew up in the heart
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of the Bible Belt in the deep south
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to a 16-year-old mom
and a 17-year-old dad.
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My entire life was church.
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♪ Little lord Jesus ♪
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- I was raised in the church.
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- I baptized you, my brother.
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(congregation applauds)
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- I even had a career in the
church as a Christian musician.
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Recently, I had to take a step back
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and question a big part of my faith,
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which is the question
around eating animals.
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And it all started when
I did the Daniel Fast.
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- The Daniel Fast.
- Yes.
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- What is the Daniel Fast?
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- It's inspired by the diet eaten
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by the Old Testament prophet Daniel.
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- Who only ate fruits, and
vegetables, and grains,
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and didn't have any animal products and
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- Parts of the diet's goal is to bring
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fasters closer to their religious roots.
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- [Kam] Daniel was a prophet
in the Bible who proved
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to the king to be 10
times wiser, healthier,
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and stronger than all the
other men in the kingdom.
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And his secret was that he refused meat
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and only ate vegetables.
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So I looked up this trendy vegetarian diet
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on the leading Daniel Plan website.
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- And I wanna welcome
you to the Daniel Plan.
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- [Kam] Yet, I was shocked to find a bunch
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of meat-based recipes like
guiltless chicken breast tenders,
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grilled lamb chops, and
even meatloaf cupcakes.
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And then when I tried calling 'em,
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So I've tried to ask this
question multiple times,
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but I keep getting sent to a voicemail.
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If Daniel ate only vegetables,
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then why is there meat on the meal plan?
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- [Representative] I can't
answer that, no, nuh uh.
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Hold on, hold on just a moment, okay?
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- [Kam] And then things
got even more interesting
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when I was on tour in
the South and stopped by
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to document the Noah's Ark Museum,
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where I found out that Noah, like Daniel,
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was also vegetarian, which
was a surprise to me.
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- If you go all the way back
to the original creation,
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God made everything perfect.
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There was no death, no bloodshed,
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which means nothing was eating meat.
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And we see that in
scripture in Genesis 1:29,
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man was vegetarian.
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So if you go back, Noah and his family
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were still being obedient to that.
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After the flood, of course,
is a different story.
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Noah was permitted to eat any meat.
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- [Interviewer] Wait, so
now that I think about it,
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it seems kind of weird if he
was vegetarian his whole life
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and he loved animals so much,
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- And he rescued 'em, yeah.
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- [Interviewer] Yeah,
he essentially pulls off
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the world's largest animal rescue
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and then he eats 'em after?
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- (chuckles) Yeah, in
one major sense, yeah.
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So it's not that it's a sin to eat meat.
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See, I grew up on a farm
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and I know in in our modern
culture, there are situations
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where people are not doing
the practices properly.
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And I'd like to see that
done a little bit better.
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And I think most Christians
would echo that, as well.
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- [Kam] He did make a good point
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about the farming practices.
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So I went to the Noah's Ark Buffet to see
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what their practices were like.
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Yes, so do you guys have your own farm
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where you raise and kill your own animals?
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- No.
- No.
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- No.
- Can you tell me
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where you get your meat from?
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No, no comment.
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- Oh, why,
- No comment.
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So yeah.
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- [Kam] She didn't really
wanna talk about it.
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So I looked it up myself
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and it was Sysco Foods,
the leading distributor
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of factory farm meat brands,
like Smithfield and Tyson.
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- [Kip] And as it turns
out, 99% of all animals
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for food are factory farmed.
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- So I started to think what
would Jesus do when it comes
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to eating animals?
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And even more specifically,
what would he do
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when it comes to killing an animal?
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- [Kip] Why does it matter if Jesus
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killed or ate meat, what does
that up to do with anything?
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- To me, it matters if
Jesus killed or ate animals
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because my entire life has been based
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on following Jesus.
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There's even a phrase
in Christianity called
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what would Jesus do that we
ask ourselves when we're faced
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with a moral or ethical dilemma.
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- Does everybody have
their WJD bracelets on?
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Do you know what that is everyone?
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They're just a reminder
to be a better person,
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to live a better life.
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♪ Jesus, walk with me, with me ♪
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- The fact of the matter is
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whether you're a Christian or not,
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or even if you don't believe
in Jesus your entire life,
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everyone in the Western
world's entire life
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is affected by the church.
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Christianity is the largest
religion in the world.
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There's 2.3 billion Christians worldwide.
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65% of the country is Christian.
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88% of members of Congress are Christian.
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And every single president in the history
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of the United States was a
Christian or believed in God.
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- In America, we don't worship
government, we worship God.
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- I, Joseph Robinette Biden
Jr. do solemnly swear,
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- I'm a Christian, a conservative,
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and a Republican, in that order.
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- God bless the United States of America.
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(Congress applauding)
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- [Kip] What does
Christian values have to do
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with eating animals?
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- All Christians kill and eat
animals based off of the fact
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that we believe or have been taught
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that God commanded us to eat animals.
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So I wonder what would be the Christian
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or Christ-like way to kill an animal?
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Hi, my name is Kameron Waters
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and I want to be baptized
to express my love
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and commitment as a born-again Christian.
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- We have a wonderful situation
here, Brother Allen Smith's
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an ordained minister and his
grandson came to be baptized.
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(clock ticking)
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- [Interviewer] Do you
feel Jesus ate animals?
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Did Jesus eat animals?
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Certainly ate fish, I know
that's not an animal but.
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- He certainly would, if
he were offered in this day
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and time a hamburger, he'd eat it.
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- [Interviewer] And when it comes to, say,
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killing an animal, what would Jesus do?
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- (chuckles) That I have no idea.
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- Interesting question.
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The possibility of him saying,
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"I can kill this animal,"
or let's do that again.
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That's not good.
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- I don't think that my
denying myself a filet mignon
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every once in a while is
gonna enhance the coming back
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of the kingdom of God.
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- But you have to ask yourself,
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do animals have rights spiritually?
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And I think the bottom line
is this, when Jesus came
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to die on the cross, he didn't come to die
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for cows, and horses, and pigs.
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He came to die for humans.
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- All my pastors started pushing back,
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community leaders started
pushing back on those questions,
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telling me that I shouldn't
be going down that road.
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And eventually it caused me to have
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to really step back from my
community, from my church,
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from my band, which was
how I supported myself.
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So I left the church.
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Now I just live in my van
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and I'm trying to figure
out this question,
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which is the reason why I asked it to you.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Kip] Is there a
Christian or spiritual way
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to ethically eat animals?
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I had no idea.
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Supposedly, one of the most
spiritual leaders today
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was my hero, the Dalai Lama,
who observes the first precept
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of Buddhism to not kill
any sentient being.
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So to get some perspective
on the flip side
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of Kam's question, I decided
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to look at why the Dalai
Lama chooses not to eat meat.
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(mouse clicks)
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(dramatic music)
What?
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The Dalai Lama eats meat.
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I was quite shocked to learn this
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and immediately reached out to
him to see how it's possible
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to compassionately kill and eat animals.
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But he didn't respond.
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Maybe there was a spiritual
way to eat animals.
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And since religions are
essentially the nonprofits
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of ethics, then perhaps
this was the missing link
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to my previous films.
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So I reached out to Kam
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and told him I would help
him find if there was
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a Christian way to kill and eat animals,
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if he would help me find
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if there were any other spiritual ways.
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Though when it came to
Christianity, I had to admit
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I wasn't even sure Jesus
was even a real person,
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especially since he was always
depicted as a white guy,
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even though he was from
Nazareth in the Middle East.
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But Kam showed me a book
by the leading historian
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of the time, Josephus, that does record
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Jesus's birth and crucifixion.
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And with that, we teamed
up to find out first
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what would Jesus do by going straight
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to the top, the Vatican.
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(plane whooshing)
(dramatic music)
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(bell ringing)
(birds squawking)
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- Where we are here at
the Greco University
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is the oldest university
associated with the Vatican.
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And this is my fourth year as dean.
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- [Interviewer] Did Jesus eat meat?
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- Yes, of course, I mean,
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I don't think there is any doubt that
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Jesus had meals including meat
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because it was part of the
Passover meal, for instance,
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as we know that a lamb was sacrificed.
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- T How would Jesus kill an animal?
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- I suppose Jesus would kill an animal
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in the less painful way possible.
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- [Interviewer] And how is that exactly?
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- I don't know. I mean it depends on
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what you have at your disposal.
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- [Interviewer] If he had a lamb
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and he had anything at his
disposal, how could he do it?
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- I suppose imagining Jesus
with a knife in his hand,
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slitting the throat of a lamb,
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isn't this particularly cruel, isn't it?
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Because it's a lamb is
something that aspires for life
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as all living things do.
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So it seems very inconsistent
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to consider Jesus engaged
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in terminating a life in that way.
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- [Interviewer] So maybe he
didn't kill or even eat animals?
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- I think we need to
wrap things up, sorry.
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(ominous music)
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- [Kip] We realized our
best chance to find out
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what would Jesus do was to
find an expert on religion
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and animals and found Oxford
theologian Dr. Andrew Linzey,
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who has written over 35
books on the subject.
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He was reluctant to do an
interview but finally accepted.
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(ominous music continues)
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(door rattling)
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- Am I a lamb to the slaughter?
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Excellent, do come through.
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- [Interviewer] Why
have you spent 50 years
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on religion and animals?
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- Give an answer now.
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Yeah, what's impelled me to
stay with the animal issue
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is that I believe religious people
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and Christian people especially
have just lost the plot.
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Disrespecting the creature
is disrespecting the creator.
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- [Interviewer] And what
would Jesus do when,
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- I'm sorry, wait a moment.
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I thought I was sitting down.
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Sometimes people say, well,
what did Jesus do for animals?
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Well, in fact, you only
have to look at the incident
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of the cleansing of the temple.
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(dramatic music)
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I mean, the temple was a place
of enormous animal sacrifice.
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He goes in and he cleanses it
of all those who buy and sell.
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- It is written, my house
will be a house of prayer
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and you have turned it
into a den of thieves.
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(group clamoring)
(coins jingling)
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- And of course it had
momentous consequences.
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It was that act that precipitated,
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especially if not exclusively,
his trial and his execution.
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- [Interviewer] Wow, but what did that
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have to do with animals?
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- Well, what were they buying and selling?
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Well, it's not chocolate.
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They're buying and selling
animals for sacrifice.
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- [Kip] I had no idea there
was a specific historical event
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that led directly to Jesus's
crucifixion four days earlier,
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known as
- Den of thieves.
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- A den of,
- A den of,
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- A den of thieves.
- But sermons today
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only mention Jesus being
mad about the money.
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- No more exchanging money.
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- He poured out the coins
of the money changers
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and he overturned their tables.
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- [Kip] But looking into the
past, there were hidden clues.
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(dramatic music)
(animals bleating)
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- Because the buying and
selling of sacrificial animals
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was what sustained the temple.
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The truth is that the temple at the time
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of Jesus was a mass slaughterhouse.
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(ominous music)
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- [Kip] It was hard to believe one
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of the world's most sacred temples
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for all western religions
was a slaughterhouse.
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Yet historical records do show millions
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of animals being sacrificed
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and priests wading up
to their knees in blood.
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It was time to visit the holy land.
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(plane whooshing)
(dramatic music)
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- Welcome to Jerusalem,
the place where the history
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of the Abrahamic faiths all began.
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From here, we can see the southern wall
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of the Temple Mount
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and that was the place that thousands
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of Israelites will come
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to bring their own particular offerings.
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- [Kip] During the temple
tour, I stayed back while Kam
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snuck away to find any
signs that the temple
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was a slaughterhouse.
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If it were true, there would've
had to have been some sort
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of drainage system connected to the temple
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to flush out all the blood
from killing animals.
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Kam could not find anything
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until he came across an informational sign
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and realized he had
been walking through it.
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- [Kam] I am in this
massive drainage channel
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where scriptures say All
the blood streamed out
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from the millions of
animals being sacrificed
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in the temple above.
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- We're talking rivers
of blood, the entrails,
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the smell, the flies.
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It's a huge operation with thousands
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and thousands of animals.
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- [Kip] And next to the temple,
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archeologists recently found
thousands of animal bones
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that came from hundreds of miles away.
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- Jerusalem has no natural resources
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and therefore certainly animal
flesh was the major driver
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of the economy that was functioning
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at that time, no question.
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- [Kip] All of the sacrificed animals
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were barbecued on the altars
and sold by priests for meat.
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(ominous music)
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- Millions of animals were
sacrificed in those walls
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and it is something so trippy
to be here on the feast
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of sacrifice with rivers
of blood in the streets
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where so many animals
are being slaughtered
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just like they were then.
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It's still happening today, and soon,
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the Temple Institute is planning
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to sacrifice a prophetic perfect red cow
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to bring back the millions
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of Jewish animal sacrifices
inside the temple.
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And this massive wall is just separating
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the Muslims from the Jewish people.
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You've got more walls separating
the Christians in the back.
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(dramatic music)
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What a trippy time to be alive.
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- [Kip] We wondered how did
this link between religion
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and killing animals even begin?
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We had to go back, way back,
to where this all began.
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(dramatic music)
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- Prehistoric societies saw animals
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as ancestors of the tribe.
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They were the totems, they were sacred.
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That changed anywhere from six to 8,000 BC
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when the first humans in the Middle East
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learned to domesticate animals.
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We controlled their
breeding, their sex lives.
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We castrated the males,
we separated the females.
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There's kind of a transition
there where you had to be
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kind of careful because
animals, they were still sacred.
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You couldn't just kill them outright.
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They had to say some
guilt-reducing things to the animal
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that was about to be killed.
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I'm sorry to have to kill you,
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but the gods want me to do this.
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This is where animal sacrifice
becomes a way to provide meat
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to the cities in a religious context
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and turn it from this being
that might've been sacred,
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might've had power, turn it into food.
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And eventually it evolved
into a religious system
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where our God says, "Yes, you
have a license to do this.
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"You have dominion over the earth."
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- [Kip] ] Dominion is the
principle which guides
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all Western religions'
views towards animals,
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which led to the widely
known spiritual ways
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of killing animals for the marketplace
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known as kosher and halal.
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- Animals were the first form of money.
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We took animals out of the wild
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and made them property, tradable objects.
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In fact, the word capital comes
from head count of the herd.
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A herd measured their wealth
in terms of heads of animals.
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One of the words for money is pecuniary.
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That's from an old Latin word
from livestock, live stock.
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(dramatic music)
(cow mooing)
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- The livestock industry has
been under regulatory attack.
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Those are harsh words,
I intend them to be.
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- [Kip] Government and
religion have been intertwined
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by killing animals for profit
for thousands of years.
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During the time of Jesus,
the temple was making tons
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of money and taxes from killing animals
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for meat that funded the Roman Empire.
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Was this kind of money
still being made today?
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It turns out where it costs
500 to a thousand dollars
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to be organic certified,
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it costs anywhere from
a thousand to $40,000
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to be kosher certified.
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And its market size may reach
over $25 billion in two years
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only to be rivaled by halal,
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the Muslim equivalent to kosher,
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which expects to reach
$1.1 trillion this year.
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This all made us think when
Jesus called the temple
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a den of thieves, was Dr. Linzey inferring
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that Jesus was not only
speaking out against
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the money changers, but
also killing animals
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that led to his crucifixion.
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So while we were in Israel,
we wanted to go visit Nazareth
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to see if we could find
any historical clues
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of who Jesus really was.
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But when we looked up from Josephus
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where in Nazareth he lived,
everything took another turn.
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- Josephus records all
204 villages and cities
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in Galilee, and Nazareth,
there's there's no Nazareth.
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- [Kip] What, no Nazareth?
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The only thing I thought
I knew about Jesus
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is that he's from Nazareth.
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But we then looked into
the "Encyclopedia Biblica"
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and it states it's very doubtful
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Nazareth was the dwelling place of Jesus.
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It's not in the Old
Testament or the Talmud.
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And it doesn't even appear
in any historical map
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or records until 200
years after his death.
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So why do we all know
him as Jesus of Nazareth
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if there may not have been a Nazareth?
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What was this title referring to?
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(dramatic music)
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(computer beeps)
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After we got back, we received
an email from Dr. Linzey
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saying the situation in general
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with the university was difficult.
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(dramatic music continues)
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And around the same time, the subject
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of Christianity and eating animals
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was becoming a hot topic with pastors.
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- That the reason God put
animals on this planet
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is for humans to consume, kill, and eat.
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- You can eat meat, it's not a sin.
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- We basically just need to make sure
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that we're nice to people
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if they wanna order a vegetarian option
504
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,505
or whatever, just humor 'em.
505
00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:46,508
It's a substitute for biblical morality.
506
00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:49,386
It becomes save the animals.
507
00:23:49,386 --> 00:23:53,140
Okay, great, but if you're gonna say it's
508
00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:57,519
because God wants us to,
that's a doctrine of devils.
509
00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:59,438
- [Congregant] That's right.
510
00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:03,150
- [Kip] But when we reached
out to the bigger megachurches,
511
00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:05,277
everyone refused an interview.
512
00:24:06,153 --> 00:24:09,030
(dramatic music)
513
00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:10,282
So it's January 19th
514
00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:13,118
and this drone has been outside the window
515
00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:15,954
for about six of the last
10 nights, just hovering.
516
00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:18,331
What's going on?
517
00:24:18,331 --> 00:24:21,126
Ever since we began
investigating this topic,
518
00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:24,254
I started seeing drones outside my window.
519
00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:25,964
February 24th.
520
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,717
And feeling I was being
watched and followed.
521
00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:32,220
It's been about 15 of
the last 20 days now.
522
00:24:32,220 --> 00:24:33,930
There's a drone again.
523
00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:35,974
I don't know what's going on.
524
00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:37,225
As all this was happening,
525
00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:39,936
we wondered if Christianity had any ties
526
00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:41,730
with animal agriculture.
527
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:44,649
It turns out several fast
food chains, like Chick-fil-A
528
00:24:44,649 --> 00:24:47,027
and In-N-Out Burger, are openly Christian
529
00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:50,822
and even have secret Bible
verses hidden in their packaging.
530
00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:53,408
And the president of Kam's church, the SBC,
531
00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:55,619
which is the largest
Christian organization
532
00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:59,080
behind the Vatican, had ties
to the founder of Chick-fil-A
533
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,707
and Tyson Foods.
534
00:25:00,707 --> 00:25:02,626
- We're about a $40 billion company.
535
00:25:03,501 --> 00:25:06,004
Beef is about 40% of our
sales, chicken's about 30.
536
00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:08,757
- Can we just lay our hands
towards these two brothers?
537
00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:10,592
Let's just pray for them.
538
00:25:10,592 --> 00:25:11,509
(haunting music)
539
00:25:11,509 --> 00:25:12,344
♪ You my Chick-fil-A ♪
540
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:15,305
- [Kip] And the SBC
recently posted a video
541
00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,599
on respecting animals.
- And I think
542
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:19,893
non-human animals merit
our serious attention.
543
00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:22,187
They're also vulnerable,
they're also voiceless.
544
00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:23,980
- [Kip] But then immediately deleted it
545
00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:27,400
with an apology saying it
didn't align with their mission.
546
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,778
Then when the same producer made a video
547
00:25:29,778 --> 00:25:31,947
on what would Jesus eat,
548
00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:34,658
the world's biggest
factory farm lobby group,
549
00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:38,203
the Animal Agriculture
Alliance, retaliated with a book
550
00:25:38,203 --> 00:25:42,666
called "What Would Jesus
Really Eat" on their homepage.
551
00:25:42,666 --> 00:25:45,919
(ominous music)
552
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:47,420
- [Interviewer] So did
you pull down the video
553
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:50,131
on animal ethics because
you received funding
554
00:25:50,131 --> 00:25:53,468
from Tyson Foods or you have close ties
555
00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:54,719
to the industry or dining?
556
00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:57,556
- There's no connection,
there's no corporate connection.
557
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:58,557
I mean, there's no pressure to do it.
558
00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:01,351
It's just this is we're
following our mission, you know?
559
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,395
So,
560
00:26:05,814 --> 00:26:07,816
- And the mission is?
- The mission is
561
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:11,611
to help equip Christians to
live, to apply the gospel
562
00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:13,238
to moral and ethical issues.
563
00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:16,908
I think I have to take this.
564
00:26:16,908 --> 00:26:19,160
(phone ringing)
565
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,328
So,
566
00:26:20,328 --> 00:26:22,706
(dramatic music)
567
00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:23,540
(phone ringing)
568
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,125
It's very clear throughout the scripture
569
00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:27,127
that humans have a higher place
570
00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:29,045
in God's hierarchy than animals.
571
00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:32,882
Furthermore, God has given
human beings a mandate to rule.
572
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:35,802
- People often say, ah,
573
00:26:35,802 --> 00:26:38,096
but Andrew, human beings
are made in the image
574
00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:39,597
of God and they're given dominion.
575
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:41,099
- And God said, let them have dominion
576
00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:42,809
over the fish of the
sea, and over the birds
577
00:26:42,809 --> 00:26:44,352
of the heavens, and over the livestock.
578
00:26:44,352 --> 00:26:48,189
- Dominion is power to
control or dispose of
579
00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:49,691
at your discretion.
580
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:54,613
- Because God has given
us dominion over the earth
581
00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,032
and over all the beasts of the earth.
582
00:26:57,032 --> 00:26:59,409
They're ours to do with as we see fit.
583
00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:03,246
- [Kip[ Yet researching
dominion's original translation,
584
00:27:03,246 --> 00:27:05,915
we were surprised to learn
that dominion actually means
585
00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:09,586
to serve in stewardship for
others as God does over us
586
00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:11,379
or as parents do with their children.
587
00:27:11,379 --> 00:27:14,341
- So the word that's
been used is stewardship,
588
00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:16,551
being the leader, the guide,
589
00:27:16,551 --> 00:27:20,096
the superintendent in a responsible way.
590
00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:23,141
- Dominion simply means that
we have a responsibility
591
00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:26,561
to look after the created order.
592
00:27:26,561 --> 00:27:29,481
In other words, we are
the servant species,
593
00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:31,608
not the master species.
594
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:32,942
(dramatic music)
595
00:27:32,942 --> 00:27:35,528
- [Kip] The true translation
of dominion reminded me
596
00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:38,031
of compassion for others in Buddhism,
597
00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:39,991
reflected in the first precept
598
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,452
to not kill any sentient being,
599
00:27:42,452 --> 00:27:44,788
which is why it was
difficult to understand
600
00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:47,374
how the Dalai Lama could eat meat.
601
00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:50,043
So we found some Buddhist
monks to talk to,
602
00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:52,837
including a professor of animal law.
603
00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:54,047
- There is no Buddhist way to kill
604
00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,090
an animal and eat an animal.
605
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:56,508
Buddhists wouldn't do that.
606
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:59,344
The Buddha at the time was very critical
607
00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,930
of animal sacrifice in India.
608
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:03,515
The Buddha therefore urged compassion
609
00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:06,101
towards all sentient beings.
610
00:28:06,101 --> 00:28:07,769
- Part of the vows is to not kill,
611
00:28:08,645 --> 00:28:10,188
to not kill, period.
612
00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:12,482
If we've had previous
lives, all the living beings
613
00:28:12,482 --> 00:28:15,402
that we see today at some
point have taken care of us.
614
00:28:15,402 --> 00:28:17,362
You're killing your mother.
615
00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:19,322
- If I'm out in the woods,
616
00:28:19,322 --> 00:28:21,157
I'm in the death valley or something,
617
00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:24,369
and there's a rabbit that shows up
618
00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:29,374
and I haven't eaten for three
days, seven days, two weeks,
619
00:28:29,624 --> 00:28:33,628
I will not be able to
actually throw a stick,
620
00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:36,339
a pebble at the rabbit to kill it
621
00:28:36,339 --> 00:28:38,091
in order for me to sustain my life.
622
00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:41,469
I can't, I will die.
623
00:28:41,469 --> 00:28:43,513
That's what the Buddha teaches.
624
00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,974
- [Interviewer] So the vow
to not kill means a Buddhist
625
00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:46,975
can never eat animals.
626
00:28:46,975 --> 00:28:48,727
- No, I cannot say never.
627
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,604
Buying and and killing
is not the same thing.
628
00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:53,857
- No?
- No, there isn't killing.
629
00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:54,941
- There's no killing.
- There isn't.
630
00:28:54,941 --> 00:28:57,610
As far as Buddhism is concerned, it's not.
631
00:28:58,486 --> 00:28:59,863
- In the 21st century,
632
00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,865
we know that all animals
that are served up
633
00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:03,366
and bought at supermarkets are killed
634
00:29:03,366 --> 00:29:06,327
for the specific purpose of
eating, for being consumed.
635
00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:07,996
Therefore, the question becomes,
636
00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:12,000
does the person incur the
karma of some participation
637
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,837
in that industrial killing
machine by consuming the food?
638
00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:18,590
The answer is probably some degree of yes.
639
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:20,550
But because karma is intention
640
00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:23,344
and this person has not
had the intention to kill,
641
00:29:23,344 --> 00:29:25,346
but the intention to consume an animal
642
00:29:25,346 --> 00:29:27,724
that has already been
killed, the karmic weight
643
00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:30,935
of the eating of the meat is
very different, it's lighter.
644
00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:34,731
For example, if someone
invites me to a meal
645
00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:39,611
and they serve a chicken or
some meat, then I will eat it.
646
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:42,489
- (chuckles) Well, as
an example, I'm staying
647
00:29:42,489 --> 00:29:44,699
with some friends of mine in San Francisco
648
00:29:44,699 --> 00:29:48,912
and they had two sausages that
they were gonna put in pasta
649
00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:51,998
and they asked me to cut
the skin off the sausage.
650
00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:53,750
So anyway, I cut the skin off the sausages
651
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:56,294
and had dinner with them.
652
00:29:56,294 --> 00:29:57,670
- [Interviewer] Couldn't
this pig have been one
653
00:29:57,670 --> 00:30:00,131
of your parents from a past life?
654
00:30:00,131 --> 00:30:02,008
- It couldn't have been, it was.
655
00:30:02,008 --> 00:30:03,259
- [Interviewer] And you still ate it?
656
00:30:03,259 --> 00:30:05,178
- I ate it and was really good too.
657
00:30:07,096 --> 00:30:10,934
- The host and the comfort
of the host has precedence
658
00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:12,185
over the fact that this animal's
659
00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:13,811
been killed sometime before.
660
00:30:13,811 --> 00:30:16,022
- [Interviewer] Well, what
if a Buddhist is at a buffet
661
00:30:16,022 --> 00:30:17,941
and they can serve themselves?
662
00:30:17,941 --> 00:30:20,485
- The way you do that at
a buffet is very different
663
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:21,861
to the way you do it at
a private dinner party.
664
00:30:21,861 --> 00:30:23,530
- [Interviewer] So like the buffet here,
665
00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:26,074
a Buddhist would never
choose any animal products.
666
00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:27,200
- Yeah, that's right.
667
00:30:30,036 --> 00:30:32,497
- [Interviewer] So if a
Buddhist chooses to eat meat,
668
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:34,040
who's the animal killed for?
669
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,669
- It's killed for the
individuals who actually
670
00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:41,589
had the intention of killing the animal.
671
00:30:41,589 --> 00:30:44,467
- Well, why did they kill it?
- For the money.
672
00:30:44,467 --> 00:30:46,803
- [Interviewer] And whose
money did they take?
673
00:30:46,803 --> 00:30:49,472
- The consumer's.
- And who's that?
674
00:30:49,472 --> 00:30:50,431
- Not just me.
675
00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:52,809
(bell ringing)
676
00:30:52,809 --> 00:30:54,310
- [Kip] It seemed in today's times,
677
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:56,229
the subtleties and interpretations
678
00:30:56,229 --> 00:30:59,315
of the first precepts were
difficult to navigate.
679
00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:01,442
So we wanted to go back to the root
680
00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:02,944
of Buddhism and speak to one
681
00:31:02,944 --> 00:31:06,322
of the highest-ranking
Buddhist monks, the Karmapa.
682
00:31:06,322 --> 00:31:09,284
- [Interviewer] How does a
Buddhist compassionately kill
683
00:31:09,284 --> 00:31:10,994
or eat animals?
684
00:31:12,036 --> 00:31:12,871
- [Translator] There is no Buddhist way
685
00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:14,581
to kill compassionately
686
00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:16,374
because we view all sentient beings
687
00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:18,334
as being like our father and mother.
688
00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:22,213
We have to consider it
like eating our parents.
689
00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:25,133
And that is really quite difficult to do.
690
00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,759
(dramatic music)
691
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,469
- [Kip] We learned another
reason it was difficult
692
00:31:28,469 --> 00:31:31,598
for Buddhists to eat meat is
because during Buddha's time,
693
00:31:31,598 --> 00:31:34,517
Hindu Brahmans were sacrificing
animals like priests
694
00:31:34,517 --> 00:31:36,436
were during Jesus's time.
695
00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:39,772
And according to some
traditions, to save the animals,
696
00:31:39,772 --> 00:31:42,025
Buddha offered his own life instead
697
00:31:42,025 --> 00:31:45,153
It was surprising to learn
Hindu Brahmans were ever
698
00:31:45,153 --> 00:31:48,031
killing animals because Hinduism is known
699
00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:51,034
as a vegetarian religion
whose God Krishna reveres
700
00:31:51,034 --> 00:31:52,911
cows as sacred and holy.
701
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:56,831
So on our quest to find a
spiritual way to kill an animal,
702
00:31:56,831 --> 00:31:59,042
we never thought to look into Hinduism
703
00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:02,462
for the answer until
704
00:32:02,462 --> 00:32:04,380
- Now this is a big breaking
news that is coming in
705
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:07,300
of the government has
decided to ban the slaughter
706
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,386
of cattle across the country.
707
00:32:10,386 --> 00:32:12,138
- [Newscaster] The Modi
government's decision to ban
708
00:32:12,138 --> 00:32:15,099
the slaughter has sparked
a widespread outrage.
709
00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:18,102
- [Reporter] It's all begun
with activists protesting
710
00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:20,605
to shut down Nepal's Gadhimai Festival,
711
00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:22,690
the world's largest animal sacrifice.
712
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:24,067
- [Kip] We couldn't understand,
713
00:32:24,067 --> 00:32:26,110
how are they banning
slaughtering cows in India
714
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:28,863
if we thought they didn't
kill their holy cows?
715
00:32:28,863 --> 00:32:31,532
We found a local animal
activist to explain
716
00:32:31,532 --> 00:32:32,825
what was going on.
717
00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:34,661
- There are more cows killed
here than anywhere else
718
00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:36,287
in the world and no one knows it.
719
00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:39,082
It's our country's biggest conspiracy.
720
00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:40,959
(haunting music)
721
00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:43,294
It is very dangerous,
but you have to help us
722
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:44,921
make this international news.
723
00:32:45,963 --> 00:32:47,590
- The cow, which is revered in India,
724
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:50,635
is now smuggled across the
border, trafficked from India,
725
00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:55,264
- By the alleged illegal beef mafia.
726
00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:56,641
These illegal beef smugglers
727
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:58,893
terrorize a society of people.
728
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:01,062
We will track the story very closely.
729
00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:02,647
Many thanks for joining us here.
730
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:03,731
- [Newscaster] Disturbing
news, the cow mafia
731
00:33:03,731 --> 00:33:07,819
has struck again, targeting
animal rights activists.
732
00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:10,989
The mafia has started to
(radio crackles)
733
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,116
- [Kip] When we arrived, Altab had tracked
734
00:33:13,116 --> 00:33:15,743
a cow smuggling truck seemingly headed
735
00:33:15,743 --> 00:33:17,912
for the Gadhimai animal sacrifice.
736
00:33:17,912 --> 00:33:20,665
- [Walkie] A cow smuggler
has been identified,
737
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:22,000
headed for the border.
738
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,043
Estimated cargo:v70 cows.
739
00:33:24,043 --> 00:33:27,005
We need photo confirmation
To turn into the police.
740
00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:30,008
(tense music)
741
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,593
(engine revving)
742
00:33:32,593 --> 00:33:36,597
- [Walkie] Get visual proof that
there are cows in the truck.
743
00:33:36,597 --> 00:33:38,516
- They're pulling over.
744
00:33:39,642 --> 00:33:41,185
- [Walkie] Careful, they may be armed.
745
00:33:41,185 --> 00:33:43,646
(tense music continues)
(group murmuring)
746
00:33:43,646 --> 00:33:45,356
(door rattling)
747
00:33:45,356 --> 00:33:48,526
- [Kam] This is super illegal.
748
00:33:48,526 --> 00:33:51,195
- Let them pass and we can,
here we go. Click it!
749
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:53,781
(horn blaring)
750
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:56,951
(tense music)
751
00:33:56,951 --> 00:33:58,411
- [Walkie] 7 miles to the the border,
752
00:33:58,411 --> 00:33:59,996
you must get it now!
753
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,791
- Get the drone, get the drone.
754
00:34:03,791 --> 00:34:04,917
- [Kip] Here it is, here it is.
755
00:34:04,917 --> 00:34:07,336
Go, go, up, up, up, let's go.
- Left, left.
756
00:34:07,336 --> 00:34:09,797
(tense music continues)
757
00:34:09,797 --> 00:34:12,467
(camera clicking)
758
00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:15,052
(somber music)
759
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:17,638
- [Kip] We reported the smuggling
760
00:34:17,638 --> 00:34:20,683
of the 70 stuffed cows to the police.
761
00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:23,728
But surprisingly, they turned us away.
762
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,567
for smuggling arms, explosives, drugs,
763
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:31,110
and most of all, cattle.
764
00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:34,447
All of it is done with the
complicity of the police
765
00:34:34,447 --> 00:34:35,490
and border security forces.
766
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:37,575
- [Kip] In the meantime,
we had to figure out
767
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:40,745
where all these smuggled
cows were coming from.
768
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:45,041
Altab sent us undercover to
find the surprising answer.
769
00:34:45,041 --> 00:34:48,920
(In Hindi) No cameras allowed!
770
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,671
- So they don't want women to see this
771
00:34:50,671 --> 00:34:52,173
because there can be problem.
772
00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:55,176
- We use only the security
camera, the spy camera.
773
00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:59,138
We have to blur out this guy's face
774
00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:00,431
if we're gonna shoot here,
775
00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:02,767
otherwise they're going to kill him.
776
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,436
(flies buzzing)
777
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:08,731
- [Kip] Even though
this was actually better
778
00:35:08,731 --> 00:35:10,858
than most dairy farms in the West,
779
00:35:10,858 --> 00:35:14,112
there were still many
similarities, like how each cow
780
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:17,240
is artificially inseminated
to become pregnant.
781
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:20,076
Then after birth, her newborn
is placed next to the mother
782
00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:23,162
until she starts milking, then taken away.
783
00:35:23,162 --> 00:35:25,540
If her newborn is male, he's useless.
784
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:27,125
So in India, he's tied
785
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,043
outside in the sun and starved to death
786
00:35:29,043 --> 00:35:31,295
since Hindus aren't allowed to kill cows,
787
00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:32,755
whereas every other dairy farm
788
00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:34,841
around the world kills them for veal.
789
00:35:34,841 --> 00:35:37,552
Then the mother is injected with oxytocin,
790
00:35:37,552 --> 00:35:39,595
which tricks the cows to contracting
791
00:35:39,595 --> 00:35:41,556
as if she's having another baby,
792
00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:44,433
thus causing her to
release milk more rapidly.
793
00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:48,187
Females repeat this cycle,
three to four more pregnancies.
794
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:49,981
- And what happens after that?
- They die.
795
00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,107
They say they die naturally after that.
796
00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:53,192
- [Kip] How do they die naturally?
797
00:35:53,192 --> 00:35:55,319
(rancher speaking in foreign language)
798
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:56,404
- Once they stop giving milk,
799
00:35:56,404 --> 00:35:58,447
then they are sent to slaughter.
800
00:35:58,447 --> 00:36:02,785
- [Kip] So all these holy dairy
cows are sent to slaughter?
801
00:36:02,785 --> 00:36:03,619
(rancher speaking in foreign language)
802
00:36:03,619 --> 00:36:04,996
- Yes.
- Yes.
803
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:06,581
(cows mooing)
804
00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:07,623
- It's true.
805
00:36:07,623 --> 00:36:09,792
We are the biggest exporters
of beef shamefully.
806
00:36:09,792 --> 00:36:13,504
It's very difficult to make
people who drink milk understand
807
00:36:13,504 --> 00:36:14,881
that the meat industry
808
00:36:14,881 --> 00:36:18,009
and leather is fed into
by the dairy industry.
809
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:20,052
- All the dairy cows
810
00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:23,181
and dairy buffaloes end up as leather.
811
00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,599
- Yes.
- Of course.
812
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:26,184
Mammary glands.
813
00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,769
(somber music)
814
00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:33,524
Fucking shit (coughs)
815
00:36:33,524 --> 00:36:36,903
- [Maneka] Leather is made
killing lots of people.
816
00:36:36,903 --> 00:36:38,946
The poorest of the poor work in them
817
00:36:38,946 --> 00:36:40,448
'cause they're paid almost nothing.
818
00:36:40,448 --> 00:36:43,367
They stand in chemicals the
whole day curing the leather.
819
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:45,536
And most of them have
not only skin diseases,
820
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:46,954
but cancer of everything.
821
00:36:46,954 --> 00:36:49,790
And all the leather chemicals
are thrown into the rivers.
822
00:36:50,666 --> 00:36:52,752
- [Kip] And where does
all the chemicals go?
823
00:36:54,128 --> 00:36:55,421
- It's going to the Ganges.
824
00:36:55,421 --> 00:36:58,633
- [Kip] The Ganges, the
sacred Ganges River?
825
00:36:58,633 --> 00:36:59,467
Isn't that bad?
826
00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:03,221
- No, no, no, Ganges are very big.
827
00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:07,183
- [Kip] And what is
the spiritual community
828
00:37:07,183 --> 00:37:08,434
doing about this?
829
00:37:08,434 --> 00:37:10,519
- Just increasing it,
increasing the export.
830
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:11,896
All across the world,
831
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:14,398
this industry operates
on the base of guns.
832
00:37:14,398 --> 00:37:17,860
Political support, media
support, both of them manipulated
833
00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:20,905
with money and backed
by religious feelings.
834
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:22,740
- [Interviewer] But don't Hindu scriptures
835
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:24,242
encourage consuming dairy?
836
00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,369
- All rubbish.
- Many scriptures
837
00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:28,996
have been really tampered with,
838
00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:32,625
verses have been inserted,
parts have been deleted
839
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:36,003
because man wanted to use the scripture
840
00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:38,047
for his own convenience.
841
00:37:38,047 --> 00:37:40,508
- [Kip] And it wasn't just
Hindu scripts whose texts
842
00:37:40,508 --> 00:37:42,843
were being brought into question.
843
00:37:42,843 --> 00:37:43,678
Altab told us,
844
00:37:43,678 --> 00:37:45,930
- Islam wants you to
protect the environment.
845
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:49,100
God says in the Quran
that I have made human
846
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,060
the guardian of the planet.
847
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:52,812
- [Kip] Altab told us that
Islamic scripture states
848
00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:55,690
that the prophet Muhammad
was appalled with the ills
849
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:58,859
of Meccan society at the
time, including the sacrifice
850
00:37:58,859 --> 00:38:00,820
of animals made to idols.
851
00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:02,613
This drove him out of
the city where he entered
852
00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:04,824
the Cave of Hira, which
is where he received
853
00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:08,035
the first revelation of the
Quran from the angel Gabriel.
854
00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:10,788
(dramatic music)
855
00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:15,293
Later that night, activists tracked down
856
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:18,045
another cow smuggling truck.
857
00:38:18,045 --> 00:38:20,840
(engines rumbling)
858
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,342
(cows mooing)
859
00:38:25,928 --> 00:38:29,807
This time, the cows were
rescued and sent to a sanctuary.
860
00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:33,894
(somber music)
861
00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:37,565
- My grandfather started the
first dairy farm in India.
862
00:38:37,565 --> 00:38:40,067
There was no organized dairy before then.
863
00:38:40,067 --> 00:38:41,485
- [Kip] Do you drink dairy yourself?
864
00:38:41,485 --> 00:38:42,611
- No, no.
- No, why?
865
00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:47,616
- Because it's unnecessary.
866
00:38:47,616 --> 00:38:50,619
It doesn't do anything
for us and it's cruel.
867
00:38:50,619 --> 00:38:53,748
The meat industry is just
a conspiracy of silence.
868
00:38:53,748 --> 00:38:55,624
Nobody talks about it, nobody shows it.
869
00:38:55,624 --> 00:38:57,960
- [Interviewer] Do you consider
yourself a spiritual person?
870
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,879
- No.
- No, no.
871
00:38:59,879 --> 00:39:03,758
- I believe that doing
is better than praying.
872
00:39:03,758 --> 00:39:06,510
(dramatic music)
873
00:39:08,888 --> 00:39:11,682
- [Kip] Before leaving India,
we gave one final attempt
874
00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:13,184
to interview the Dalai Lama.
875
00:39:19,398 --> 00:39:22,568
Just after, though, he made an
official statement that said
876
00:39:22,568 --> 00:39:25,196
it's all right to have
meat of dead animals
877
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,364
that's not slaughtered for meat.
878
00:39:27,364 --> 00:39:30,034
We couldn't figure out
how that was possible.
879
00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:33,871
But on the way home, Kam realized
he had a Christian friend
880
00:39:33,871 --> 00:39:36,123
who was famous for eating animals
881
00:39:36,123 --> 00:39:38,292
who weren't slaughtered for meat.
882
00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:40,544
(logo squishes)
883
00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:42,380
- Hey, welcome to "Food for Louis."
884
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:45,091
We're gonna continue with
the the roadkill series
885
00:39:45,091 --> 00:39:48,260
and we've stumbled across a fox.
886
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:49,595
Oh yeah, look at that meat.
887
00:39:53,849 --> 00:39:56,936
I started YouTube back
in 2012 with a channel,
888
00:39:56,936 --> 00:40:01,899
"Food for Louis," where I just
kind of pushed the limits of,
889
00:40:01,899 --> 00:40:05,528
I guess, what it meant to be a
carnivore in its rawest form,
890
00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:09,115
eating roadkill, squirrels,
pigeons and rabbits.
891
00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:10,533
But there was one thing I did
892
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:14,078
which really just got
me in a lot of trouble.
893
00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:17,081
I'm gonna be eating my goldfish.
894
00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:18,332
That caused uproar.
895
00:40:18,332 --> 00:40:20,376
All the national papers were printing
896
00:40:20,376 --> 00:40:21,877
massive articles on it.
897
00:40:21,877 --> 00:40:24,004
Seven of my videos got taken down.
898
00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:28,509
I was the number one-wanted
person from the RSPCA.
899
00:40:28,509 --> 00:40:30,845
Friends from church were really worried
900
00:40:30,845 --> 00:40:32,721
and they said we'd love to pray for you,
901
00:40:32,721 --> 00:40:34,056
we think you need help.
902
00:40:34,056 --> 00:40:36,600
- [Kip] People are gonna
know you as a psychopath.
903
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,144
- I was like, can't you see this is
904
00:40:38,144 --> 00:40:40,271
just completely hypocritical
that you're offering
905
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,314
to pray for me and that
you're worried about me
906
00:40:42,314 --> 00:40:45,985
and yet everybody in my
church was happily eating
907
00:40:45,985 --> 00:40:48,779
hamburgers, and chicken,
and fish, and everything
908
00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:50,990
and they just had no issue with that
909
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:52,908
and didn't make the connection.
910
00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:56,036
- [Kip] Realizing how his
church was morally all right
911
00:40:56,036 --> 00:40:58,247
with him eating certain animals
912
00:40:58,247 --> 00:41:01,458
but not others was a bit confusing
913
00:41:01,458 --> 00:41:05,171
and made us feel like we
were in some sort of matrix.
914
00:41:05,171 --> 00:41:09,383
- So in the movie "The Matrix,"
the characters believed
915
00:41:09,383 --> 00:41:11,552
that they were living their lives freely,
916
00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:12,928
but really they weren't.
917
00:41:12,928 --> 00:41:15,931
All that they saw was an
illusion that was created
918
00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:17,308
by this matrix.
919
00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:20,227
And we can see a similar mentality
920
00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:22,146
when it comes to eating animals.
921
00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:24,815
I refer to this as the
the carnistic matrix.
922
00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:28,777
Carnism is the invisible
dominant belief system woven
923
00:41:28,777 --> 00:41:32,156
through the very structure
of society that conditions us
924
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:35,409
to distort our perceptions
of our behaviors
925
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,912
and creates a gap in our consciousness.
926
00:41:37,912 --> 00:41:40,206
So we don't really
realize what we're doing.
927
00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:43,292
Without awareness, there's no free choice.
928
00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:47,630
Carnism is why we are able to
love dogs and certain animals
929
00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:51,091
and eat others and not
recognize the contradictions,
930
00:41:51,091 --> 00:41:53,344
how they're not in
alignment with our values.
931
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:57,097
We don't make the connection
between the meat, eggs,
932
00:41:57,097 --> 00:41:58,307
or dairy on our plate
933
00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:01,060
and the living individuals
those foods once were.
934
00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:04,813
- Would you like give if someone ate you?
935
00:42:04,813 --> 00:42:05,981
(adult laughing)
936
00:42:05,981 --> 00:42:08,817
- No, I wouldn't.
- Well then why should I
937
00:42:08,817 --> 00:42:12,321
eat this poor harmless animal (crying)?
938
00:42:12,321 --> 00:42:14,073
- [Adult] But do you
understand what I'm saying?
939
00:42:14,073 --> 00:42:16,200
We didn't kill this animal.
940
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,660
It's good for your body.
941
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:20,496
Jesus created animals for us to eat.
942
00:42:21,830 --> 00:42:23,916
- God has given those animals unto us.
943
00:42:23,916 --> 00:42:27,503
And this is, of course, where
you'll have the sick people
944
00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:30,130
of the world, that are
just twisted in their head
945
00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:32,591
because they don't have God
and they don't know the Bible
946
00:42:32,591 --> 00:42:33,884
and they don't know the truth,
947
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:37,596
who will elevate the status of an animal
948
00:42:37,596 --> 00:42:40,641
or of a beast to be that of a human being?
949
00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:43,811
- Let me just put this thing
to bed once and for all.
950
00:42:43,811 --> 00:42:47,273
It was impossible to be a
vegetarian in the Old Testament
951
00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:48,482
and be right with God.
952
00:42:48,482 --> 00:42:49,775
Could not do it.
953
00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:51,944
Impossible.
954
00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:54,780
Yes to meat, all meat,
955
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,285
dog, cat, whatever.
956
00:42:59,285 --> 00:43:02,746
- [Interviewer] What if a
host served Buddhist dog teat?
957
00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:05,165
- Why?
- Would it be different?
958
00:43:05,165 --> 00:43:06,458
- Why would it be different?
959
00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:08,961
- [Interviewer] Oh, so a
Buddhist would eat a dog?
960
00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,422
- Well, I wouldn't eat it.
961
00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:14,258
- [Interviewer] But wouldn't
that offend the host?
962
00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:16,010
- What if they were serving a unicorn?
963
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:18,637
I've never even heard of
that situation occurring.
964
00:43:18,637 --> 00:43:20,848
- [Narrator] Today on
the summer solstice began
965
00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:24,685
a week-long festival featuring
dog served up as food.
966
00:43:24,685 --> 00:43:28,897
- People from all over Asia
come to this city to eat dogs
967
00:43:28,897 --> 00:43:32,234
and we've rescued thousands
and thousands of dogs.
968
00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:34,862
I started going undercover
into these slaughterhouses.
969
00:43:34,862 --> 00:43:37,823
It was so shocking and so devastating
970
00:43:37,823 --> 00:43:40,326
and it's sad that pushed me
towards making the connection
971
00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:44,163
that there's no difference
between a cow, or a pig,
972
00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:46,457
or a sheep, or a dog.
973
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:49,835
And a lot of people don't
know, but I don't just do dogs,
974
00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:54,840
I go into pig slaughter
houses and cow farms.
975
00:43:55,090 --> 00:43:59,345
But every time I rescue one,
I saw myself dying there.
976
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:02,014
Anyways,
977
00:44:04,391 --> 00:44:05,434
(grunts) sorry,
978
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:08,020
messed up.
979
00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:09,813
(dogs barking)
980
00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:12,399
My belief in a religion
died while I was there.
981
00:44:17,112 --> 00:44:18,822
There's no God on a kill floor.
982
00:44:20,783 --> 00:44:21,784
(dogs squealing)
983
00:44:21,784 --> 00:44:24,370
In that moment when an
animal is being pushed
984
00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:25,913
to their death, there's no hope,
985
00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:29,500
there's no chance of a better life,
986
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:33,087
there's no tomorrow,
no divine intervention.
987
00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:37,174
(prod buzzes)
988
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:40,761
(prod buzzes)
989
00:44:42,096 --> 00:44:45,766
(door sliding and rattling)
990
00:44:49,728 --> 00:44:52,481
(metal clanging)
991
00:44:54,483 --> 00:44:55,567
I don't know what I am now,
992
00:44:55,567 --> 00:45:00,322
but definitely not religious.
993
00:45:00,322 --> 00:45:02,658
I think we're living through
the modern-day holocaust.
994
00:45:02,658 --> 00:45:07,663
I think that's atrocity of the
21st century, eating animals.
995
00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:11,959
(somber music)
996
00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:15,754
- The oppression has these qualities
997
00:45:15,754 --> 00:45:19,883
of both being very subtle
and being universal.
998
00:45:19,883 --> 00:45:22,511
Well, the beginning of discrimination
999
00:45:22,511 --> 00:45:26,056
and oppression is first given to the child
1000
00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:29,309
when she asks, what am I eating?
1001
00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:32,187
- [Adult] We only eat turkeys.
1002
00:45:32,187 --> 00:45:33,063
- Why?
1003
00:45:33,063 --> 00:45:36,650
- And chicken, and pigs, and cows.
1004
00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:39,319
- But pigs are nice,
and chickens are nice,
1005
00:45:39,319 --> 00:45:40,779
and cows are nice.
1006
00:45:40,779 --> 00:45:44,408
- And then it continues,
it's similar living beings,
1007
00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:47,703
one should be cared for
and the other must die.
1008
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:51,290
And that's basically what
happened to my family.
1009
00:45:51,290 --> 00:45:53,959
(bomb explodes)
1010
00:45:55,711 --> 00:45:58,464
After the war, eventually I went to work
1011
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:03,093
for an environmental consulting
firm at the slaughterhouse
1012
00:46:03,093 --> 00:46:06,430
and I was walking around taking notes
1013
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:11,310
and I suddenly came across
piles of heads, hearts,
1014
00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:14,271
hooves, and animal bodies.
1015
00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:19,234
My first reaction was
remembering the body parts
1016
00:46:19,234 --> 00:46:20,986
that I saw in Auschwitz,
1017
00:46:20,986 --> 00:46:24,281
the Jewish victims, the
members of my own family
1018
00:46:24,281 --> 00:46:26,742
that perished in those camps.
1019
00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:30,245
The use of cattle cars
to transport my people
1020
00:46:30,245 --> 00:46:32,080
to the death camps,
1021
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,335
the housing in tight wooden crates,
1022
00:46:36,335 --> 00:46:40,255
and identifying the victims by a number,
1023
00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:44,301
the deception so that
people outside the walls
1024
00:46:44,301 --> 00:46:47,012
didn't really know what was going on.
1025
00:46:47,012 --> 00:46:50,891
The famous Nobel Laureate
Isaac Bashevis Singer said
1026
00:46:50,891 --> 00:46:55,229
that for the animals, all men are Nazis,
1027
00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:59,274
and for the animals life
is an eternal Treblinka.
1028
00:47:00,484 --> 00:47:02,945
- [Kip] It felt uncomfortable
to compare the holocaust
1029
00:47:02,945 --> 00:47:04,488
to killing animals.
1030
00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:07,741
But Alex told us that the word
holocaust originally referred
1031
00:47:07,741 --> 00:47:11,286
to a Jewish animal sacrifice
barbecued on the altar,
1032
00:47:11,286 --> 00:47:13,747
a common practice from the
temple that Jesus called
1033
00:47:13,747 --> 00:47:16,959
the den of thieves, which
developed into the system
1034
00:47:16,959 --> 00:47:18,126
of spiritually raising
1035
00:47:18,126 --> 00:47:21,004
and killing animals for
food known as kosher.
1036
00:47:22,005 --> 00:47:24,550
We realized we had to visit a kosher farm
1037
00:47:24,550 --> 00:47:26,927
to see if perhaps this
was the spiritual way
1038
00:47:26,927 --> 00:47:29,012
to raise and kill animals.
1039
00:47:29,012 --> 00:47:32,975
But interestingly, every farm
turned us down for a visit.
1040
00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:35,853
So we linked up with an
Israeli undercover activist
1041
00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:37,729
who got us into what she called one
1042
00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:40,858
of the best kosher farms around.
1043
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:41,733
(dramatic music)
1044
00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:43,569
It wasn't what we expected.
1045
00:47:43,569 --> 00:47:45,279
- Something is wrong with them.
1046
00:47:45,279 --> 00:47:47,155
It's a lot of suffering
1047
00:47:47,155 --> 00:47:50,617
with tumors, with pus from their eyes.
1048
00:47:50,617 --> 00:47:53,453
The rabbi will explain
you that is culture,
1049
00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:55,664
that we can all eat him
1050
00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:59,209
because it doesn't affect nothing.
1051
00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:01,336
- They just waiting to the slaughter.
1052
00:48:01,336 --> 00:48:03,672
In age one years old, they still baby,
1053
00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:06,008
so this is all their life.
1054
00:48:06,008 --> 00:48:10,262
They just sitting on the shit,
1055
00:48:10,262 --> 00:48:12,097
a lot of disease and sick.
1056
00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:13,432
See what they're doing.
1057
00:48:13,432 --> 00:48:14,516
(somber music)
(cows mooing)
1058
00:48:14,516 --> 00:48:19,271
- We are eating energy
of misery, and suffering,
1059
00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,815
and a lot of pain.
1060
00:48:21,815 --> 00:48:25,193
And it's get inside of us.
1061
00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:27,446
Their suffering is so big really.
1062
00:48:28,322 --> 00:48:30,657
And they're kind and they're beautiful
1063
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:33,493
and they don't deserve it.
1064
00:48:33,493 --> 00:48:36,580
(birds chirping)
(cows mooing)
1065
00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:39,124
- [Kip] Kosher farming
didn't seem any different
1066
00:48:39,124 --> 00:48:41,043
but Tall took us to a rabbi
1067
00:48:41,043 --> 00:48:43,420
who has killed over a million animals
1068
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:46,715
to see if the kosher killing
is what made it spiritual.
1069
00:49:01,313 --> 00:49:03,982
- I can show you a video
1070
00:49:03,982 --> 00:49:05,859
- [Narrator] For kosher,
you first take the cow
1071
00:49:05,859 --> 00:49:07,486
into the machine, stop up the neck,
1072
00:49:07,486 --> 00:49:09,780
and rotate the body 180 degrees.
1073
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,031
Then the throat is slit.
1074
00:49:11,031 --> 00:49:13,283
The cow is hung upside
down to drain the blood.
1075
00:49:13,283 --> 00:49:15,369
This is not to be confused with halal,
1076
00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:16,995
the Islamic interpretation,
1077
00:49:16,995 --> 00:49:19,790
which requires only
rotating the cow 90 degrees,
1078
00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:22,417
facing the cow, saying
Allah Akbar, praise God,
1079
00:49:22,417 --> 00:49:24,961
before slitting the throat
and hanging upside down.
1080
00:49:24,961 --> 00:49:27,381
These methods are intended
to reduce suffering.
1081
00:49:27,381 --> 00:49:29,466
- Like this, ah ha, one, two.
1082
00:49:29,466 --> 00:49:31,051
That's all, okay.
1083
00:49:31,051 --> 00:49:33,553
This is good for anyone.
1084
00:49:33,553 --> 00:49:37,599
- You seen the movies,
everything is so clean
1085
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,143
and how they have this slaughter box,
1086
00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:43,772
and with this music, it's
not like this at all.
1087
00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:46,650
They can see everything,
they can hear everything.
1088
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,068
They smell the blood.
1089
00:49:48,068 --> 00:49:51,238
It's just, it's like a massacre.
1090
00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:53,490
And with a lot of violence, this is it,
1091
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,575
it's a violent thing to do.
1092
00:49:55,575 --> 00:49:58,328
(dramatic music)
1093
00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:12,300
- Well I just caught a flashback,
1094
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:17,305
(workers exclaiming)
(metal rattling)
1095
00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:21,810
I saw the suffering in their eyes.
1096
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:24,479
That was the first time
I saw an animal cry.
1097
00:50:24,479 --> 00:50:26,523
(dramatic music continues)
1098
00:50:26,523 --> 00:50:29,276
Then I said to myself,
this is really terrible.
1099
00:50:31,278 --> 00:50:33,113
There's no kosher in Israel.
1100
00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:35,323
What do you mean by kosher?
1101
00:50:35,323 --> 00:50:36,158
There is none.
1102
00:50:39,286 --> 00:50:41,872
- [Kip] Not feeling kosher
was any more spiritual,
1103
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:45,667
we wanted to see if humane
slaughter was the answer.
1104
00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:49,838
And we found a certified
grade A humane slaughterhouse
1105
00:50:49,838 --> 00:50:51,506
in Kam's hometown.
1106
00:50:52,507 --> 00:50:54,468
- Hey, nuh uh, y'all can't be here.
1107
00:50:54,468 --> 00:50:56,344
Y'all need to back up now.
1108
00:50:56,344 --> 00:50:57,637
Y'all need to back up.
(siren blaring)
1109
00:50:57,637 --> 00:50:59,681
- [Kip] They really didn't want anyone
1110
00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:01,475
to see what's going on in there,
1111
00:51:01,475 --> 00:51:03,560
especially how slaughterhouses
1112
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,939
use ex-prisoners on parole
to kill the animals.
1113
00:51:07,939 --> 00:51:10,817
- Don't take no pictures of
me, man, I'm on federal papers,
1114
00:51:10,817 --> 00:51:13,737
man, don't take no pictures.
1115
00:51:13,737 --> 00:51:17,574
- They kill at least about
two, 3,000 cows a day.
1116
00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:19,868
That's a lot of killing and
a lot of blood going on.
1117
00:51:19,868 --> 00:51:22,287
80 hours a week, might even work more.
1118
00:51:22,287 --> 00:51:24,081
It's really mentally disturbing.
1119
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:26,500
Sometimes you can have
nightmares just dreaming
1120
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:28,585
about slaughtering and all that.
1121
00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:31,463
And there's always possibilities
that you might just snap.
1122
00:51:31,463 --> 00:51:33,507
85% of 'em have been in prison.
1123
00:51:33,507 --> 00:51:35,217
It's just really a bad idea for a person
1124
00:51:35,217 --> 00:51:37,260
that's been locked up for a long time.
1125
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:40,472
And you carry knives and blood everywhere,
1126
00:51:40,472 --> 00:51:42,265
killing them cows or being around it.
1127
00:51:42,265 --> 00:51:44,351
- And these workers have the highest rates
1128
00:51:44,351 --> 00:51:47,187
of worker injuries and among
the highest rates of suicide,
1129
00:51:47,187 --> 00:51:50,065
and drug addiction, and
alcoholism, and spousal abuse.
1130
00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:51,900
And so they go back after work
1131
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,028
and take out on others or on
themselves, the frustrations
1132
00:51:55,028 --> 00:51:58,323
and misery that they're
inflicting on other living beings.
1133
00:51:58,323 --> 00:51:59,866
- [Interviewer] What if
all the killings too much
1134
00:51:59,866 --> 00:52:01,910
and you just can't do it?
1135
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:04,704
- They give you a job, you
have no choice but to work it.
1136
00:52:04,704 --> 00:52:06,123
You have to do what they tell you to do
1137
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:07,958
and if you don't, they send you back.
1138
00:52:08,959 --> 00:52:11,002
- Back where?
- Get sent back to prison.
1139
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,422
- [Kip] We found out that
many slaughterhouse workers
1140
00:52:14,422 --> 00:52:16,299
are either prisoners on parole
1141
00:52:16,299 --> 00:52:18,051
or immigrants that are forced to work
1142
00:52:18,051 --> 00:52:22,597
under these conditions for
as low as 93 cents per day,
1143
00:52:22,597 --> 00:52:26,726
which makes this essentially
slave labor with PTSD.
1144
00:52:28,353 --> 00:52:31,690
- The model for slavery
actually begins with, again,
1145
00:52:31,690 --> 00:52:34,484
animal domesticators in
the ancient Middle East.
1146
00:52:34,484 --> 00:52:37,070
And the next form of it
becomes human slavery
1147
00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:39,781
when females and children were traded
1148
00:52:39,781 --> 00:52:41,741
among the early herdspeople.
1149
00:52:41,741 --> 00:52:45,328
- You look at slavery, you
look at indentured servants
1150
00:52:45,328 --> 00:52:46,997
as children, you look at
a lot of things that used
1151
00:52:46,997 --> 00:52:49,624
to be normal, certain
things that we used to do
1152
00:52:49,624 --> 00:52:52,252
that now we would look at and
say, oh no, that's terrible.
1153
00:52:52,252 --> 00:52:54,838
As we evolve, they fall away.
1154
00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:56,506
We can eat them, we can
do whatever we want to do
1155
00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:57,716
with them because they're just animals.
1156
00:52:57,716 --> 00:53:00,385
And that was the same rationalization
1157
00:53:00,385 --> 00:53:01,803
that people used for slavery.
1158
00:53:01,803 --> 00:53:04,181
These people aren't human,
they have dark skins.
1159
00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:07,184
This is a woman, she's not
totally human, she's a woman.
1160
00:53:07,184 --> 00:53:08,894
We can do whatever we wanna do with her.
1161
00:53:08,894 --> 00:53:11,646
- Anybody who says we've gotta deal
1162
00:53:11,646 --> 00:53:14,649
with the human issues
first, doesn't understand
1163
00:53:14,649 --> 00:53:18,236
how animal oppression is
informing human oppression.
1164
00:53:18,236 --> 00:53:20,530
The oppression of animals is intensifying
1165
00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:21,990
the oppression of women.
1166
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:24,743
In objectification, we no
longer are in possession
1167
00:53:24,743 --> 00:53:26,870
of our own bodies and we
see that in meat eating.
1168
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:30,790
We say chicken wings,
not a chicken's wing.
1169
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:34,878
It's like leg of lamb,
no, it's a lamb's leg.
1170
00:53:34,878 --> 00:53:37,172
Reinforcing the idea that someone's only,
1171
00:53:37,172 --> 00:53:39,841
you know, are you a breast
man, are you a leg man,
1172
00:53:39,841 --> 00:53:43,178
an assemblage of body parts
because body parts can't talk.
1173
00:53:43,178 --> 00:53:47,432
So when we construct humans as
better than non-human animals
1174
00:53:47,432 --> 00:53:52,228
and then create oppressive
systems, we are speciesist.
1175
00:53:52,228 --> 00:53:56,483
Speciesism is an oppression
interlocking with racism,
1176
00:53:56,483 --> 00:54:01,237
sexism, they're all working
together as oppressive systems.
1177
00:54:01,237 --> 00:54:03,990
- [Kip] Seeing how animal
oppression is interconnected
1178
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:07,118
with human oppression in
this industrial system,
1179
00:54:07,118 --> 00:54:09,996
we wondered maybe the
spiritual way to raise
1180
00:54:09,996 --> 00:54:12,457
and kill animals lied outside the system
1181
00:54:12,457 --> 00:54:15,335
in local free-range regenerative farms
1182
00:54:15,335 --> 00:54:16,878
that were getting so popular
1183
00:54:16,878 --> 00:54:19,089
with morally conscious meat eaters.
1184
00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:21,800
The most popular in the
country is Polyface Farms,
1185
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,511
led by Christian Farmer Joel Salatin,
1186
00:54:24,511 --> 00:54:27,097
who says he kills animals on his farm
1187
00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:29,349
in a way he hopes Jesus would.
1188
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:30,600
(dramatic music)
1189
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,644
- Well, when the New York
Times calls me a rebel
1190
00:54:32,644 --> 00:54:35,063
and an evangelist, yeah,
I'm certainly an evangelist
1191
00:54:35,063 --> 00:54:38,650
because I'm preaching
that this is actual food
1192
00:54:38,650 --> 00:54:40,026
and farming truth.
1193
00:54:40,026 --> 00:54:44,364
We believe in providing a
habitat that allows the animal
1194
00:54:44,364 --> 00:54:48,284
to fully express its
emotional distinctiveness.
1195
00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:49,661
- [Kam] Oh, in this cage?
1196
00:54:49,661 --> 00:54:53,581
- Just so you know, it's
a shelter, it's a shelter.
1197
00:54:53,581 --> 00:54:57,544
Cage sounds restrictive.
(chickens clucking)
1198
00:54:57,544 --> 00:54:58,378
Hi, ladies.
1199
00:54:59,504 --> 00:55:02,215
The pigs now, they're not
just bacon and pork chop.
1200
00:55:02,215 --> 00:55:04,300
They actually become co-laborers
1201
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:08,179
and fellow team players in
this great healing ministry.
1202
00:55:08,179 --> 00:55:10,015
- [Kam] And their lifespan is how long?
1203
00:55:10,015 --> 00:55:10,890
- A pig would live,
1204
00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:12,100
I don't know how long a pig would live,
1205
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:13,643
they'd live a long, long time.
1206
00:55:14,561 --> 00:55:19,274
But, we harvest them before
they get old and tough.
1207
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:23,194
- [Kam] When is old and tough?
1208
00:55:24,362 --> 00:55:25,572
- Six months.
1209
00:55:25,572 --> 00:55:26,489
How are you, pig?
1210
00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:29,200
Oh, it's just a good life, isn't it?
1211
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,702
Yeah, it's just a good life.
1212
00:55:30,702 --> 00:55:33,246
- [Kam] How do you think
Jesus would kill an animal?
1213
00:55:33,246 --> 00:55:36,207
- Yeah, I certainly would hope
1214
00:55:36,207 --> 00:55:39,002
that he would kill an
animal the way we do.
1215
00:55:39,002 --> 00:55:40,712
We call this the wheel of fortune.
1216
00:55:41,713 --> 00:55:46,259
If we put 'em in head first
here, a hug if you will,
1217
00:55:46,259 --> 00:55:47,218
makes 'em quiet.
1218
00:55:48,928 --> 00:55:51,389
And then we slit their throat here
1219
00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:54,934
and then this is the
automatic feather picker.
1220
00:55:54,934 --> 00:55:56,728
We pull the heads off and the feet off
1221
00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:58,772
and then they go into these chill vats.
1222
00:55:58,772 --> 00:56:01,524
So from kill to chill,
it goes right along.
1223
00:56:01,524 --> 00:56:02,567
(dramatic music)
1224
00:56:02,567 --> 00:56:03,943
- [Kip] Are the pigs
slaughtered here, as well?
1225
00:56:03,943 --> 00:56:06,738
- Pigs, cows, goat, sheep all have
1226
00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:07,989
to go to a slaughterhouse.
1227
00:56:07,989 --> 00:56:09,991
- [Kam] So the chicken's
the only one processed here.
1228
00:56:09,991 --> 00:56:12,577
- And rabbits.
- And rabbits, got it.
1229
00:56:13,495 --> 00:56:14,579
So tell me what you're doing.
1230
00:56:14,579 --> 00:56:16,331
- [Worker] I'm gonna stun it first.
1231
00:56:24,506 --> 00:56:25,924
- Now what does this mean if you stun?
1232
00:56:25,924 --> 00:56:27,842
- Stun it, then it's not feeling anything.
1233
00:56:27,842 --> 00:56:30,804
It's unconscious, so it's way more humane.
1234
00:56:30,804 --> 00:56:32,472
- We now have a lot of people
1235
00:56:32,472 --> 00:56:34,391
who kill animals every single day.
1236
00:56:34,391 --> 00:56:36,351
And it's just not good for your psyche.
1237
00:56:38,478 --> 00:56:41,523
- [Kip] This didn't feel
like what Jesus would do.
1238
00:56:41,523 --> 00:56:44,192
And we found out there
were further impacts
1239
00:56:44,192 --> 00:56:47,112
from these free-range, grass-fed farms
1240
00:56:47,112 --> 00:56:49,656
beyond just killing farm animals.
1241
00:56:49,656 --> 00:56:51,574
- Every time you eat a free-range
1242
00:56:51,574 --> 00:56:54,786
or a grass-fed animal, you're contributing
1243
00:56:54,786 --> 00:56:56,704
to the killing of other animals
1244
00:56:56,704 --> 00:56:58,748
because farmers have to kill other animals
1245
00:56:58,748 --> 00:57:01,000
that compete for the cows' land,
1246
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,545
wolves, bears, hawks, and eagles.
1247
00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:07,006
- The hawks and eagles need to be reduced.
1248
00:57:09,217 --> 00:57:11,052
- This is devastating to wildlife.
1249
00:57:11,052 --> 00:57:14,639
It's devastating to the Amazon
Forest, the Chaco Forest.
1250
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,975
They're on fire right now, why?
1251
00:57:16,975 --> 00:57:20,603
To clear for pastures
to grow grass-fed meat.
1252
00:57:20,603 --> 00:57:23,440
(somber music)
1253
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,109
Every second an acre of rainforest
1254
00:57:26,109 --> 00:57:28,653
is cleared partly for grass-fed beef,
1255
00:57:28,653 --> 00:57:32,532
but mostly to grow soy to feed
livestock around the world.
1256
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:35,285
And this is wiping out the forest,
1257
00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:37,662
it's wiping out the
precious medicinal plants,
1258
00:57:37,662 --> 00:57:41,666
they contain the amazing
diversity of animal life.
1259
00:57:41,666 --> 00:57:43,668
It's forcing indigenous tribes
1260
00:57:43,668 --> 00:57:45,879
to live homeless on city streets.
1261
00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:49,632
And their wisdom also is
now at risk of extinction.
1262
00:57:49,632 --> 00:57:52,343
(dramatic music)
1263
00:58:19,746 --> 00:58:21,456
- [Interviewer] What if
you pray or give thanks
1264
00:58:21,456 --> 00:58:23,249
for the animal before you eat them?
1265
00:58:35,136 --> 00:58:37,889
- [Kip] With all this killing
and environmental destruction
1266
00:58:37,889 --> 00:58:40,808
even regenerative animal farming causes,
1267
00:58:40,808 --> 00:58:43,770
maybe hunting wild and free animals
1268
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:46,731
is the ethical way to kill an animal.
1269
00:58:46,731 --> 00:58:47,732
(gun shoots)
And Kam said he
1270
00:58:47,732 --> 00:58:50,610
actually belonged to a
Christian youth hunting club
1271
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,320
that did just that.
1272
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,572
(somber music)
1273
00:58:54,572 --> 00:58:57,492
(group murmuring)
1274
00:58:57,492 --> 00:58:59,118
- Lord, in the name of your son Jesus,
1275
00:58:59,118 --> 00:59:01,579
send us some deer,
whether you'd stir 'em up,
1276
00:59:01,579 --> 00:59:05,041
get 'em moving, help us
to be successful shots
1277
00:59:05,041 --> 00:59:08,378
for you, while being humane 100%.
1278
00:59:08,378 --> 00:59:10,713
In Jesus's name, men.
- Amen.
1279
00:59:12,006 --> 00:59:15,093
- My heart was beating fast.
1280
00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:16,261
He was like, there's a deer.
1281
00:59:16,261 --> 00:59:21,266
When I grabbed the gun I was
just like, oh, it's here.
1282
00:59:21,307 --> 00:59:24,310
(somber music continues)
1283
00:59:24,310 --> 00:59:26,437
- Wait 'til he gets broadside,
1284
00:59:26,437 --> 00:59:27,814
and then I want you to put a bullet
1285
00:59:27,814 --> 00:59:29,524
right behind his shoulder.
1286
00:59:32,819 --> 00:59:36,990
(gun shoots)
(somber music continues)
1287
00:59:36,990 --> 00:59:39,867
- [Logan] When I saw the
deer dead, I felt like,
1288
00:59:42,745 --> 00:59:45,873
well I felt, I don't
know how to explain it,
1289
00:59:45,873 --> 00:59:48,543
just kind of bad.
1290
00:59:48,543 --> 00:59:52,130
But he got the blood from
where I shot the deer
1291
00:59:53,881 --> 00:59:56,301
and put a mark on each side.
1292
00:59:56,301 --> 00:59:59,596
- And you cannot wipe it
off until tomorrow morning.
1293
00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:00,930
- [Logan] That's kind of weird.
1294
01:00:00,930 --> 01:00:02,765
Then he told me that,
1295
01:00:03,641 --> 01:00:05,727
- And this is the initiation
1296
01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:08,938
Logan, there's a tradition.
- And it was just a tradition.
1297
01:00:08,938 --> 01:00:10,273
- In our ministry.
- Yeah,
1298
01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:13,443
I just went along with it.
1299
01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:17,196
- Lord, I just come to you this morning.
1300
01:00:18,156 --> 01:00:20,700
I just want to thank you for the deer
1301
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:22,869
that you've allowed us to harvest.
1302
01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:27,290
Thank you for allowing Logan
to give that deer a clean shot.
1303
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:30,376
And we just want to thank you
this morning for a good hunt.
1304
01:00:32,003 --> 01:00:34,505
- [Logan] At the time, I
was just really excited
1305
01:00:34,505 --> 01:00:36,924
and my adrenaline was rushing
1306
01:00:36,924 --> 01:00:38,551
and I was just like, yay, I killed it.
1307
01:00:38,551 --> 01:00:42,013
And then after I was like, dang,
1308
01:00:45,850 --> 01:00:49,062
I really just killed an animal.
1309
01:00:49,062 --> 01:00:50,355
I don't know how to explain it.
1310
01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:53,775
(somber music continues)
1311
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:57,945
When I saw the calf,
they used his (whispers),
1312
01:00:59,238 --> 01:01:01,074
it was kind of cute.
1313
01:01:01,074 --> 01:01:04,077
It reminded me of the deer really,
1314
01:01:06,412 --> 01:01:10,208
because it wasn't really that
much of a size difference.
1315
01:01:11,417 --> 01:01:15,463
They're both beautiful animals.
1316
01:01:15,463 --> 01:01:17,840
So that's basically how I feel.
1317
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,842
- [Interviewer] Was
that your first one or?
1318
01:01:21,177 --> 01:01:23,388
- Act like you're happy about it.
1319
01:01:23,388 --> 01:01:28,393
(group laughing)
(somber music continues)
1320
01:01:30,103 --> 01:01:31,896
- Growing up I was always
trying to be macho.
1321
01:01:31,896 --> 01:01:33,064
I was trying to be tough.
1322
01:01:33,064 --> 01:01:34,857
That's probably when I was
most desperate in my life
1323
01:01:34,857 --> 01:01:36,651
to be heard, to be someone,
1324
01:01:36,651 --> 01:01:38,403
to have some sort of authority.
1325
01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:41,531
And I chose to try and do
that by exploiting something.
1326
01:01:41,531 --> 01:01:43,908
The alpha males wanna be more
alpha, so they look for things
1327
01:01:43,908 --> 01:01:45,993
that we can grab onto and say,
fuck, you know, I'm bigger,
1328
01:01:45,993 --> 01:01:48,746
I'm stronger, beat the chest type thing.
1329
01:01:48,746 --> 01:01:50,123
So I was basically being a bully man.
1330
01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:51,290
I wasn't even being a bully
1331
01:01:51,290 --> 01:01:52,750
to something that could fight back.
1332
01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:55,545
I was being a bully to
something that I was standing
1333
01:01:55,545 --> 01:01:58,965
50 or 100 meters away from
shooting with a rifle.
1334
01:01:58,965 --> 01:02:00,758
And I suppose that's one of the reasons
1335
01:02:00,758 --> 01:02:02,009
I joined the military.
1336
01:02:02,009 --> 01:02:03,970
'Cause it wasn't sport running
around out there hunting
1337
01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:06,305
something that couldn't fight back.
1338
01:02:06,305 --> 01:02:09,600
- In primitive societies,
because we hunted other animals,
1339
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,603
it fostered the use of
tools and technology
1340
01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:14,731
and the development of weapons.
1341
01:02:14,731 --> 01:02:17,024
So there was a lot of fighting going on
1342
01:02:17,024 --> 01:02:19,569
among people that kept herds.
1343
01:02:19,569 --> 01:02:23,072
- Herding animals was a
direct cause of the first wars
1344
01:02:23,072 --> 01:02:26,284
and the ancient word
for war from Sanskrit,
1345
01:02:26,284 --> 01:02:29,787
gavia, it comes from the ancient
word go, which means cow.
1346
01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:32,498
So war was the desire for more cows.
1347
01:02:32,498 --> 01:02:34,083
It was a way to increase wealth.
1348
01:02:34,083 --> 01:02:36,544
So we had the arising of war and slavery.
1349
01:02:36,544 --> 01:02:38,588
We had the arising of
a wealthy elite class
1350
01:02:38,588 --> 01:02:40,339
and we had the arising of religions
1351
01:02:40,339 --> 01:02:44,135
that enabled the fundamental
foundation of the society
1352
01:02:44,135 --> 01:02:46,679
that we live in, which is
owning animals as property
1353
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:49,390
for food and routinely and relentlessly
1354
01:02:49,390 --> 01:02:50,766
killing them and eating them.
1355
01:02:50,766 --> 01:02:54,353
- Meat is so identified
with patriarchal ethics,
1356
01:02:54,353 --> 01:02:55,980
the ends justifying the means
1357
01:02:55,980 --> 01:02:58,733
and violence as a way of having pleasure.
1358
01:02:58,733 --> 01:03:02,778
We see it in ads that
tell men to eat meat.
1359
01:03:02,778 --> 01:03:05,072
♪ Oh yes, I'm a guy ♪
1360
01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:07,074
♪ I will eat this meat ♪
1361
01:03:07,074 --> 01:03:09,786
- [Announcer] Eat like a man, man.
1362
01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:12,872
- This desperate masculinity,
trying not to be vulnerable,
1363
01:03:12,872 --> 01:03:15,333
so exploiting something
that is vulnerable.
1364
01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:17,126
After Iraq, I never hunted again
1365
01:03:17,126 --> 01:03:19,545
and whatever was in my system was out
1366
01:03:19,545 --> 01:03:21,130
'cause you know what
it's like to be hunted.
1367
01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:22,465
And once you're put in the other position,
1368
01:03:22,465 --> 01:03:23,841
hey, the tables turn.
1369
01:03:25,301 --> 01:03:28,095
- [Kip] And the tables were
turning on our quest, as well.
1370
01:03:28,095 --> 01:03:30,181
Learning of all this war, disparity,
1371
01:03:30,181 --> 01:03:32,683
and oppression, seemingly
rooted from temples
1372
01:03:32,683 --> 01:03:35,102
becoming slaughterhouses brought us back
1373
01:03:35,102 --> 01:03:37,688
to what did Jesus do
in the temple he called
1374
01:03:37,688 --> 01:03:41,442
the den of thieves that
led to his crucifixion.
1375
01:03:41,442 --> 01:03:44,529
And we had a strong inclination
that finding out the truth
1376
01:03:44,529 --> 01:03:47,824
to this Nazareth mystery
may somehow be connected
1377
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:51,035
to Jesus's motive for
cleansing the temple.
1378
01:03:51,035 --> 01:03:54,789
But we didn't know where to look until
1379
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:57,792
- Dead Sea Scrolls
rises back to life again
1380
01:03:57,792 --> 01:04:01,170
with new findings leading to
possible scroll connections.
1381
01:04:01,170 --> 01:04:03,965
Archeologists and antiquities
excavators are returning
1382
01:04:03,965 --> 01:04:06,801
to the original site of the
finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls
1383
01:04:06,801 --> 01:04:09,637
in the Qumran Cave area of the West Bank.
1384
01:04:09,637 --> 01:04:12,557
- [Kip] These scrolls were
hidden by the church for decades
1385
01:04:12,557 --> 01:04:14,684
until archeologist Robert Eisenman
1386
01:04:14,684 --> 01:04:16,811
daringly released them to the public.
1387
01:04:16,811 --> 01:04:19,188
And it just so happened
he lived only miles
1388
01:04:19,188 --> 01:04:20,398
down the road from us.
1389
01:04:20,398 --> 01:04:22,733
So we packed our cameras to see if he knew
1390
01:04:22,733 --> 01:04:24,569
what Nazareth really meant.
1391
01:04:26,112 --> 01:04:31,117
Why can we find no solid
historical record of Nazareth?
1392
01:04:31,158 --> 01:04:34,120
- Nazareth is not a town
that we can chronicle
1393
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,289
in Palestine from the known sources.
1394
01:04:36,289 --> 01:04:39,959
The term Jesus of Nazareth
was originally based
1395
01:04:39,959 --> 01:04:43,296
in the Hebrew to describe
not where he came from,
1396
01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:47,550
but what he was, Jesus the Nasaraean,
1397
01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:51,220
which is a movement that
opposed in the temple,
1398
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:54,098
which had been put in place by the Romans.
1399
01:04:54,098 --> 01:04:57,059
- [Kip] So you're saying it's
not about where he's from.
1400
01:04:57,977 --> 01:05:02,023
- [Robert] It's not where
he is from, it's who he is.
1401
01:05:02,023 --> 01:05:04,775
(dramatic music)
1402
01:05:06,152 --> 01:05:08,779
- [Kip] Apparently this Nasaraean movement
1403
01:05:08,779 --> 01:05:11,282
against the temple was well documented
1404
01:05:11,282 --> 01:05:14,702
in historical records even before Jesus.
1405
01:05:14,702 --> 01:05:16,162
And we wondered,
1406
01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:17,788
- [Interviewer] Did these Nasaraeans
1407
01:05:17,788 --> 01:05:20,708
ever kill or eat animals?
1408
01:05:20,708 --> 01:05:23,502
- I don't think killing was part of any
1409
01:05:23,502 --> 01:05:27,381
of these righteous ones lives,
though I'm not a vegetarian,
1410
01:05:27,381 --> 01:05:28,966
but I don't do the killing myself
1411
01:05:28,966 --> 01:05:31,969
so I can avoid any responsibility
in my own own mind,
1412
01:05:31,969 --> 01:05:33,596
but it's hypocrisy obviously.
1413
01:05:33,596 --> 01:05:37,516
Still, I don't think people
like James, or Jesus,
1414
01:05:37,516 --> 01:05:39,769
or those kind of righteous ones killed
1415
01:05:39,769 --> 01:05:42,396
any animals If they could avoid it
1416
01:05:42,396 --> 01:05:44,106
And I don't think they would've.
1417
01:05:44,106 --> 01:05:45,608
- [Interviewer] Not even for food?
1418
01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:46,734
- Well of course they didn't eat,
1419
01:05:46,734 --> 01:05:48,235
if they were weren't killing animals,
1420
01:05:48,235 --> 01:05:50,738
they weren't eating
animals, that's obvious.
1421
01:05:50,738 --> 01:05:52,740
- [Kip] This wasn't obvious to us.
1422
01:05:52,740 --> 01:05:56,452
But Dr. Eisenman showed us
that this Nasaraean movement
1423
01:05:56,452 --> 01:05:59,121
that Jesus seemed to
be a part of would not
1424
01:05:59,121 --> 01:06:02,166
sacrifice animals or eat meat
1425
01:06:02,166 --> 01:06:05,336
because they differed from
other movements at the time
1426
01:06:05,336 --> 01:06:09,006
by following the commandment
thou shall not kill
1427
01:06:09,006 --> 01:06:10,967
to include animals.
1428
01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:13,719
- Seven-eighths of the people
who deal with this material
1429
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:15,846
and teach others who know nothing about it
1430
01:06:15,846 --> 01:06:17,431
are just repeating things
1431
01:06:17,431 --> 01:06:19,684
that they've been taught by other people.
1432
01:06:19,684 --> 01:06:23,521
Nothing that I learned was I
taught by anyone else, period.
1433
01:06:23,521 --> 01:06:25,731
I was taught by the literature itself.
1434
01:06:25,731 --> 01:06:27,900
(dramatic music)
1435
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:30,236
- So this guy keeps following me.
1436
01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:32,905
This is like the fourth time
1437
01:06:32,905 --> 01:06:34,865
I've seen this guy walking back.
1438
01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:40,079
What's up?
1439
01:06:45,126 --> 01:06:46,836
This is super sketch.
1440
01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:50,423
As things were ramping up, I
hired a private investigator
1441
01:06:50,423 --> 01:06:53,467
to see if the industry or
government was following me.
1442
01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:57,471
In the meantime, we felt we had
1443
01:06:57,471 --> 01:07:00,516
to find experts in the historical Jesus
1444
01:07:00,516 --> 01:07:02,143
and Nasaraean movement.
1445
01:07:03,060 --> 01:07:07,273
- What facts do we know about
Jesus that all scholars,
1446
01:07:07,273 --> 01:07:08,858
Christians, and non-Christians
1447
01:07:08,858 --> 01:07:11,402
will all agree actually happened.
1448
01:07:11,402 --> 01:07:14,530
One is his baptism by John the Baptist,
1449
01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:17,074
the second is an incident in the temple,
1450
01:07:17,074 --> 01:07:19,785
and the third is his crucifixion.
1451
01:07:19,785 --> 01:07:22,246
John the Baptist is the leader
1452
01:07:22,246 --> 01:07:24,999
of the Jesus movement before Jesus.
1453
01:07:24,999 --> 01:07:28,419
The gospel of the Ebionites
and Josephus both agree
1454
01:07:28,419 --> 01:07:31,547
that John the Baptist eats
nothing but plant foods.
1455
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:34,592
So John the Baptist
certainly did not eat meat.
1456
01:07:34,592 --> 01:07:37,470
And Jesus and John the
Baptist are cousins.
1457
01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:39,847
Jesus is simply carrying
on the family tradition.
1458
01:07:39,847 --> 01:07:43,350
And all the people in this
family seem to be vegetarian.
1459
01:07:43,350 --> 01:07:46,437
- Matthew is recorded
as being a vegetarian.
1460
01:07:46,437 --> 01:07:49,065
Peter is recorded as being a vegetarian.
1461
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:53,194
Epiphanius records that the
whole Nasaraene movement
1462
01:07:53,194 --> 01:07:56,072
in the fourth century were vegetarian.
1463
01:07:56,072 --> 01:07:58,449
And when Epiphanius talked to one
1464
01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:00,993
of the Nasaraenes personally,
1465
01:08:00,993 --> 01:08:04,330
that Nasaraene said to the
question from Epiphanius,
1466
01:08:04,330 --> 01:08:06,123
why are you a vegetarian?
1467
01:08:06,123 --> 01:08:07,708
The Nasaraene responded
1468
01:08:07,708 --> 01:08:11,378
because Jesus taught us to be vegetarians.
1469
01:08:11,378 --> 01:08:13,506
(dramatic music)
1470
01:08:13,506 --> 01:08:15,633
- Did Jesus eat animals?
1471
01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:17,301
Certainly ate fish.
1472
01:08:17,301 --> 01:08:18,594
- Do you wanna get really specific,
1473
01:08:18,594 --> 01:08:20,763
Peter and Jesus ate fish.
1474
01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:23,224
- Oh, the fish stories, yes.
1475
01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:26,018
Well, the problem with the fish
stories about Jesus feeding
1476
01:08:26,018 --> 01:08:28,854
the 5,000 and the 4,000,
the earliest references
1477
01:08:28,854 --> 01:08:31,941
describe the miracle of
the loaves and the fishes
1478
01:08:31,941 --> 01:08:33,901
as the miracle of the loaves
1479
01:08:33,901 --> 01:08:36,028
without referencing the fishes at all.
1480
01:08:36,028 --> 01:08:38,906
And in fact, even Jesus's
own retelling, he says,
1481
01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:40,783
don't you remember when I miraculously
1482
01:08:40,783 --> 01:08:42,409
multiplied all the loaves?
1483
01:08:42,409 --> 01:08:44,370
He doesn't mention the fish at all.
1484
01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:46,205
- [Kip] In these stories, the words used
1485
01:08:46,205 --> 01:08:49,208
for fish are actually a mistranslation,
1486
01:08:49,208 --> 01:08:52,545
like the Greek ichthus,
which is also a secret symbol
1487
01:08:52,545 --> 01:08:57,174
for Jesus, and phosphagion,
actually meaning a relish
1488
01:08:57,174 --> 01:08:59,468
or anything eaten on bread.
1489
01:08:59,468 --> 01:09:01,929
In another story in the gospel of John,
1490
01:09:01,929 --> 01:09:06,767
Jesus helps his disciples
miraculously catch 153 fish,
1491
01:09:06,767 --> 01:09:09,103
but then tells them to follow him
1492
01:09:09,103 --> 01:09:11,689
and become fishers of men instead.
1493
01:09:11,689 --> 01:09:15,401
Nearly the exact same story
is told 500 years earlier
1494
01:09:15,401 --> 01:09:18,070
by Pythagoras where he wages a bet
1495
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:20,781
with some fishermen that if
he's able to guess the number
1496
01:09:20,781 --> 01:09:23,450
of fish in their nets,
they must release them.
1497
01:09:23,450 --> 01:09:24,618
They agree to the terms
1498
01:09:24,618 --> 01:09:26,620
and are shocked when Pythagoras guesses
1499
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:28,330
the exact number of fish.
1500
01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:30,791
And the exact number in the Jesus story,
1501
01:09:30,791 --> 01:09:35,796
153, is the ratio height
of the vesica piscis.
1502
01:09:35,796 --> 01:09:38,257
This symbol originated by Pythagoras,
1503
01:09:38,257 --> 01:09:39,758
who was a lifelong vegetarian
1504
01:09:39,758 --> 01:09:42,678
and fiercely against animal sacrifice.
1505
01:09:42,678 --> 01:09:46,181
- If we want to understand
where Jesus came from,
1506
01:09:46,181 --> 01:09:48,934
we have to go back to the
teachings of Pythagoras.
1507
01:09:48,934 --> 01:09:51,437
That is vegetarianism, pacifism,
1508
01:09:51,437 --> 01:09:54,064
and communalism, which became incorporated
1509
01:09:54,064 --> 01:09:57,484
in the Essene doctrine
and the Nasaraean doctrine
1510
01:09:57,484 --> 01:09:58,569
that Jesus grew up in.
1511
01:09:58,569 --> 01:10:01,447
- ]Kip] And it turned out
Pythagoras was a contemporary
1512
01:10:01,447 --> 01:10:03,824
of the Buddha and seeing Buddha was also
1513
01:10:03,824 --> 01:10:06,327
against animal sacrifice
and trained in yoga,
1514
01:10:06,327 --> 01:10:08,537
we had to have a look.
1515
01:10:08,537 --> 01:10:13,208
- What yoga is is that union to the self.
1516
01:10:13,208 --> 01:10:16,629
There is a part of the life of all of us
1517
01:10:16,629 --> 01:10:19,882
that are in this room, including
these two chihuahuas here
1518
01:10:19,882 --> 01:10:23,135
on my lap, which is the
self that's within us all.
1519
01:10:23,135 --> 01:10:25,930
These girls are just
driving Chihuahua bodies.
1520
01:10:25,930 --> 01:10:28,515
I just happen to be driving a human body.
1521
01:10:28,515 --> 01:10:30,726
No big difference (chuckles).
1522
01:10:30,726 --> 01:10:33,395
- The path is pretty clear to happiness.
1523
01:10:33,395 --> 01:10:35,147
Do everything you can
1524
01:10:35,147 --> 01:10:37,983
to enhance happiness
in the lives of others.
1525
01:10:37,983 --> 01:10:42,488
The yamas are specific to how
you should relate to others.
1526
01:10:42,488 --> 01:10:44,782
Basically, this is what
the Buddha is teaching,
1527
01:10:44,782 --> 01:10:49,119
this is what Jesus is teaching,
that we are all connected.
1528
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:50,746
- [Kip] We had a revelation.
1529
01:10:50,746 --> 01:10:53,457
If you put yoga and Buddhism's precepts
1530
01:10:53,457 --> 01:10:55,334
and Christianity's, Islam's,
1531
01:10:55,334 --> 01:10:58,587
and Judaism's commandments side by side,
1532
01:10:58,587 --> 01:11:01,382
they're essentially the same thing
1533
01:11:01,382 --> 01:11:05,344
and all of them begin with
not harming or killing others.
1534
01:11:05,344 --> 01:11:07,221
Yet all these religions seem
1535
01:11:07,221 --> 01:11:09,098
to contradict themselves when it came
1536
01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:10,933
to sacrificing animals.
1537
01:11:10,933 --> 01:11:13,227
Even Jesus calling the temple priests
1538
01:11:13,227 --> 01:11:16,063
a den of thieves rather than murderers
1539
01:11:16,063 --> 01:11:19,108
or killers seemed maybe
he was more concerned
1540
01:11:19,108 --> 01:11:21,193
with the money than the killing.
1541
01:11:21,193 --> 01:11:23,821
So was animal sacrificed the answer of how
1542
01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:25,656
to spiritually kill animals?
1543
01:11:25,656 --> 01:11:28,492
If only we could travel back in time.
1544
01:11:28,492 --> 01:11:33,497
Maybe Jesus was all right with
ceremonial animal sacrifice.
1545
01:11:33,664 --> 01:11:36,542
Just then, Altab sent us an email saying
1546
01:11:36,542 --> 01:11:39,128
that the world's largest animal sacrifice
1547
01:11:39,128 --> 01:11:41,714
at the Gadhimai temple was back on.
1548
01:11:41,714 --> 01:11:43,882
Despite the Supreme Court banning it,
1549
01:11:43,882 --> 01:11:46,927
trucks were continuing to
smuggle thousands of cows
1550
01:11:46,927 --> 01:11:49,805
to be sacrificed by priests at the temple,
1551
01:11:49,805 --> 01:11:51,515
but there were activists trying
1552
01:11:51,515 --> 01:11:56,395
to shut the sacrifice down,
led by activist Manoj Gautam.
1553
01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:59,773
- It looks like the Gadhimai
sacrifices are back on.
1554
01:11:59,773 --> 01:12:01,900
The temple has gone back on their words.
1555
01:12:01,900 --> 01:12:05,529
And we only have 48
hours to knock the doors
1556
01:12:05,529 --> 01:12:07,448
of the Supreme Court back again.
1557
01:12:07,448 --> 01:12:09,700
And these 48 hours will be very crucial.
1558
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:10,909
If you guys are thinking of coming,
1559
01:12:10,909 --> 01:12:12,369
this is the time, come now.
1560
01:12:12,369 --> 01:12:14,872
(tense music)
1561
01:12:20,044 --> 01:12:20,878
There you go, we just got a message.
1562
01:12:20,878 --> 01:12:21,879
It says there are already
1563
01:12:21,879 --> 01:12:24,923
900 buffalo calves already collected.
1564
01:12:24,923 --> 01:12:27,259
The time's running, the
animal number is increasing
1565
01:12:27,259 --> 01:12:29,428
and it will increase as
the time comes closer
1566
01:12:29,428 --> 01:12:30,554
to the commencement of the sacrifice.
1567
01:12:30,554 --> 01:12:32,639
But we barely have any time.
1568
01:12:32,639 --> 01:12:35,350
- [Kip] Manoj signed documents
to take the temple committee
1569
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:39,480
and government to Supreme Court
to end the animal sacrifice.
1570
01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:41,106
(tense music continues)
1571
01:12:41,106 --> 01:12:42,691
- [Manoj] Yeah, so I've
been working on this
1572
01:12:42,691 --> 01:12:46,070
for the past 11 years and
I'd just like to see it done.
1573
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:47,738
- [Kip] But his court request to stop
1574
01:12:47,738 --> 01:12:51,033
the temple sacrifice was denied.
1575
01:12:51,033 --> 01:12:52,076
- [Manoj] It looks like the government's
1576
01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:53,702
working in collusion with
the temple committee.
1577
01:12:53,702 --> 01:12:56,288
Again, our hope lies in
bringing it up to the attention
1578
01:12:56,288 --> 01:12:58,082
of the media with which we hope we
1579
01:12:58,082 --> 01:13:00,918
can still get to the sacrifice.
1580
01:13:00,918 --> 01:13:02,920
It's a question that
media people like yourself
1581
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,590
from Guardian should ask
these government officials
1582
01:13:06,590 --> 01:13:08,801
what kind of society
do you want to create?
1583
01:13:08,801 --> 01:13:10,052
What kind of religion?
1584
01:13:10,052 --> 01:13:13,097
What kind of religious
practices do you want to create?
1585
01:13:13,097 --> 01:13:15,390
A practice of violence, practice
of activists being killed?
1586
01:13:15,390 --> 01:13:16,350
I was recently attacked,
1587
01:13:16,350 --> 01:13:18,185
all they seek is my blood at this moment.
1588
01:13:18,185 --> 01:13:19,895
What more do they want, for me to die,
1589
01:13:19,895 --> 01:13:21,146
for me to be killed?
1590
01:13:21,146 --> 01:13:22,773
Do they want us to be crucified now?
1591
01:13:22,773 --> 01:13:23,941
I would like to repeat this.
1592
01:13:23,941 --> 01:13:26,110
Do they want us activists to be crucified?
1593
01:13:27,069 --> 01:13:29,279
In one of the Vedas that
are the founding scriptures
1594
01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:32,491
of Hinduism, one says that
if by killing animals,
1595
01:13:32,491 --> 01:13:35,411
if by consuming animals' tears and blood,
1596
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:39,456
and by chopping off trees
and destroying life forms,
1597
01:13:39,456 --> 01:13:41,875
one goes to heaven, then what is
1598
01:13:41,875 --> 01:13:43,335
the staircase to go to hell?
1599
01:13:43,335 --> 01:13:45,045
(ominous music)
1600
01:13:45,045 --> 01:13:47,464
- [Kip] Manoj was worried
that he may be killed
1601
01:13:47,464 --> 01:13:48,924
if he went to Gadhimai.
1602
01:13:48,924 --> 01:13:52,261
So he asked if we could risk
going as undercover press
1603
01:13:52,261 --> 01:13:55,806
to document if they
sacrificed the animals or not.
1604
01:13:55,806 --> 01:13:59,309
We arrived amongst the sea of
four million Hindu devotees
1605
01:13:59,309 --> 01:14:03,105
toting animals for sacrifice
and Manoj connected us
1606
01:14:03,105 --> 01:14:06,525
to an undercover activist
named DeepJay who was trying
1607
01:14:06,525 --> 01:14:09,570
to shut down the sacrifice at ground zero.
1608
01:14:09,570 --> 01:14:12,573
- There are some people from
the Gadhimai Temple Committee
1609
01:14:12,573 --> 01:14:15,033
who would like us not to be here.
1610
01:14:18,287 --> 01:14:20,622
(ominous music continues)
1611
01:14:20,622 --> 01:14:23,542
- Do you think it's risky out there?
1612
01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:25,461
- Oh yeah, oh hell yeah.
1613
01:14:25,461 --> 01:14:27,629
The Temple Committee put
the bounties on Manoj
1614
01:14:27,629 --> 01:14:31,049
and our heads if we come here to kill us.
1615
01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:35,554
Maybe now we should put the
camera away from our face.
1616
01:14:35,554 --> 01:14:39,016
(ominous music continues)
1617
01:14:39,016 --> 01:14:41,852
(group murmuring)
1618
01:14:43,353 --> 01:14:46,064
This is the pit they have
dog to bury all the heads
1619
01:14:46,064 --> 01:14:47,441
when they hack the animals.
1620
01:14:48,817 --> 01:14:50,527
- [Kip] We used fake press outfits
1621
01:14:50,527 --> 01:14:53,614
to get us into the private priest area,
1622
01:14:53,614 --> 01:14:56,492
where at 5:00 a.m. if the priest decides
1623
01:14:56,492 --> 01:15:01,079
to kill these first five
animals, a cow, goat, pig,
1624
01:15:01,079 --> 01:15:04,875
chicken, and a rat, only
then would the sacrifice
1625
01:15:04,875 --> 01:15:08,545
of the thousands of cows in
the temple grounds will begin.
1626
01:15:08,545 --> 01:15:10,631
(dramatic music)
(animals bleating)
1627
01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:13,800
- [Interviewer] So we heard
the sacrifice might not happen?
1628
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,511
- They have not asked
us to totally stop it
1629
01:15:16,511 --> 01:15:21,433
because this is related to our
tradition and Hindu custom.
1630
01:15:22,434 --> 01:15:24,311
- [Interviewer] What do you
say to someone who's in America
1631
01:15:24,311 --> 01:15:25,896
if they're saying this is wrong?
1632
01:15:27,314 --> 01:15:30,692
- Comparing the Christian,
who followed the Thanksgiving,
1633
01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:33,487
there are billions of turkey
1634
01:15:33,487 --> 01:15:36,782
that was slaughtered like
just a few months ago,
1635
01:15:36,782 --> 01:15:38,075
so it's their tradition.
1636
01:15:39,243 --> 01:15:40,911
It's ours as Hindus.
1637
01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:44,081
- All right, so it's past six.
1638
01:15:44,081 --> 01:15:45,249
An hour ago they were supposed
1639
01:15:45,249 --> 01:15:48,627
to kill the first five animals
and they haven't done it yet.
1640
01:15:48,627 --> 01:15:51,296
(group clamoring)
(drums beating)
1641
01:15:51,296 --> 01:15:54,132
(whistle blowing)
1642
01:15:54,132 --> 01:15:56,343
- [Kip] Soon after, the military showed up
1643
01:15:56,343 --> 01:15:58,595
to shut the sacrifice down
1644
01:16:00,931 --> 01:16:03,100
or so we thought.
1645
01:16:04,059 --> 01:16:09,064
(group clamoring)
(dramatic music)
1646
01:16:27,457 --> 01:16:30,085
(dramatic music continues)
1647
01:16:30,085 --> 01:16:31,837
(group cheering)
1648
01:16:31,837 --> 01:16:36,842
(group clamoring)
(whistles blowing)
1649
01:16:49,396 --> 01:16:50,647
And that's when it hit us,
1650
01:16:50,647 --> 01:16:53,025
this felt like a glimpse
into what was happening
1651
01:16:53,025 --> 01:16:56,403
in the temple of
Jerusalem 2,000 years ago.
1652
01:16:56,403 --> 01:16:58,822
There were the temple
guards, the military,
1653
01:16:58,822 --> 01:17:00,532
and the government in collusion
1654
01:17:00,532 --> 01:17:04,328
with the priests killing
animals in exchange for money.
1655
01:17:05,829 --> 01:17:09,541
Once the cow sacrifice began
inside the barricaded temple,
1656
01:17:09,541 --> 01:17:12,044
they demanded we stop filming
1657
01:17:12,044 --> 01:17:13,962
(group murmuring)
(dramatic music)
1658
01:17:13,962 --> 01:17:16,465
(cows mooing)
1659
01:17:27,684 --> 01:17:30,437
(drone whirring)
1660
01:17:32,314 --> 01:17:34,316
- Because of the Supreme Court order,
1661
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:37,861
I don't think all of
them will be sacrificed.
1662
01:17:39,571 --> 01:17:41,406
(drone whirring)
1663
01:17:41,406 --> 01:17:45,035
(dramatic music continues)
1664
01:17:45,035 --> 01:17:47,329
- [Colleague] The worst we
believe could happen is they
1665
01:17:47,329 --> 01:17:50,540
might slaughter about 20%.
- Wow, wow.
1666
01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:51,375
Wow.
1667
01:17:54,169 --> 01:17:57,756
(dramatic music continues)
1668
01:18:13,855 --> 01:18:17,442
(dramatic music continues)
1669
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:20,946
- [Kip] It was becoming clear
1670
01:18:20,946 --> 01:18:23,949
that we may never find a
spiritual way to kill an animal.
1671
01:18:24,783 --> 01:18:28,495
I felt horrible and it felt
wrong to just stand there
1672
01:18:28,495 --> 01:18:32,541
and do nothing for the animals,
but it felt wrong to intrude
1673
01:18:32,541 --> 01:18:34,835
and disrespect someone else's religion.
1674
01:18:35,794 --> 01:18:38,630
- [Speaker] Comparing the
Christian who follow Thanksgiving,
1675
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:43,260
millions of turkey that was
slaughter just a few months ago.
1676
01:18:43,260 --> 01:18:45,429
- [Kip] All this paled in comparison
1677
01:18:45,429 --> 01:18:50,016
to the 46 million turkeys we
kill each year for Thanksgiving
1678
01:18:50,016 --> 01:18:53,979
and the near 16 million
pigs we eat for Christmas
1679
01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:56,481
to ironically celebrate
the birth of someone
1680
01:18:56,481 --> 01:19:00,152
who may have never killed
or eaten any animal.
1681
01:19:00,152 --> 01:19:03,488
Seeing this made us feel
compelled more than ever
1682
01:19:03,488 --> 01:19:07,242
to find out what did Jesus
really do at the temple
1683
01:19:07,242 --> 01:19:09,286
that led to his crucifixion.
1684
01:19:09,286 --> 01:19:12,164
(tense music)
1685
01:19:12,164 --> 01:19:14,040
This is what I come home to.
1686
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,710
My place has been completely ransacked,
1687
01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:19,379
everything is gone through,
yet nothing is taken.
1688
01:19:19,379 --> 01:19:22,048
They even purposely put things
like expensive equipment,
1689
01:19:22,048 --> 01:19:24,843
phone, saying that, hey, we're
not here to steal anything,
1690
01:19:24,843 --> 01:19:26,344
we're here to try to scare you.
1691
01:19:26,344 --> 01:19:29,139
My camera bag, $10,000
worth of equipment was found
1692
01:19:29,139 --> 01:19:29,973
two blocks away.
1693
01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:33,435
- [Kam] I just came to my van here to find
1694
01:19:35,103 --> 01:19:38,899
it's been broken into, but
nothing of value was taken.
1695
01:19:38,899 --> 01:19:41,818
The only thing they took
were my memory cards.
1696
01:19:42,861 --> 01:19:44,070
- [Kip] I immediately followed up
1697
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:46,072
with a private investigator we hired
1698
01:19:46,072 --> 01:19:48,909
and he said to meet up
with him right away.
1699
01:19:48,909 --> 01:19:50,368
- Well, you definitely
have industry scared.
1700
01:19:50,368 --> 01:19:52,412
We've got 80 pages of
documents that we've obtained
1701
01:19:52,412 --> 01:19:54,080
through our Freedom of
Information Act requests
1702
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,750
showing the USDA's Beef
Board identified your films
1703
01:19:56,750 --> 01:19:59,544
as a potential crisis
that must be protected
1704
01:19:59,544 --> 01:20:00,545
and defended against.
1705
01:20:00,545 --> 01:20:02,047
Lobbyists for big animal ag
1706
01:20:02,047 --> 01:20:03,757
and their allies in
government are really doing
1707
01:20:03,757 --> 01:20:06,218
whatever they can to
surveil your films closely,
1708
01:20:06,218 --> 01:20:08,762
monitor your social media,
track your screenings,
1709
01:20:08,762 --> 01:20:10,680
and at times even shut
your screenings down.
1710
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,641
We're talking about some
of the most powerful,
1711
01:20:12,641 --> 01:20:14,434
profitable industries on the planet
1712
01:20:14,434 --> 01:20:17,771
that kill over 70 billion animals a year.
1713
01:20:17,771 --> 01:20:20,482
If your films affect people's
beliefs about animals
1714
01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:21,817
and our treatment of animals,
1715
01:20:21,817 --> 01:20:23,735
that will make you a threat in their eyes
1716
01:20:23,735 --> 01:20:26,279
and industry will move
to neutralize the threat.
1717
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:28,949
(ominous music)
1718
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,454
- [Kip] We wondered if
all this risk was worth
1719
01:20:34,454 --> 01:20:35,580
making the film.
1720
01:20:38,250 --> 01:20:40,210
But after some deep soul searching,
1721
01:20:40,210 --> 01:20:44,172
despite all the threats, we
knew the biggest risk would be
1722
01:20:44,172 --> 01:20:47,592
to be scared into silence
and not tell the story.
1723
01:20:50,679 --> 01:20:53,890
- Check this out, remember that
red cow sacrifice prophecy.
1724
01:20:53,890 --> 01:20:55,892
It looks like it may be the cause
1725
01:20:55,892 --> 01:20:58,270
of the recent conflict in the holy land
1726
01:20:58,270 --> 01:20:59,938
and no one's talking about it.
1727
01:20:59,938 --> 01:21:01,356
Weeks before the attack,
1728
01:21:01,356 --> 01:21:03,400
the Jewish Temple Institute announced that
1729
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,612
after 2,000 years an
unblemished red cow was born
1730
01:21:07,612 --> 01:21:11,241
and paid $250,000 to fly the cows over
1731
01:21:11,241 --> 01:21:13,910
to Jerusalem from a Texas cattle rancher.
1732
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:16,746
And right after, the
Middle East Monitor said
1733
01:21:16,746 --> 01:21:20,208
Israel's red cow will blow up the region.
1734
01:21:20,208 --> 01:21:21,960
(explosives blasting)
1735
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,005
Hamas stated the trigger of
the attack was from the concern
1736
01:21:25,005 --> 01:21:27,173
that this prophetic cow
sacrifice would lead
1737
01:21:27,173 --> 01:21:30,343
to demolishing the Islamic
Dome of the Rock to clear way
1738
01:21:30,343 --> 01:21:32,345
for the new Jewish temple to be built.
1739
01:21:32,345 --> 01:21:35,890
And the Temple Institute's
website actually verifies this
1740
01:21:35,890 --> 01:21:38,935
along with a plan to
restart animal sacrifices
1741
01:21:38,935 --> 01:21:42,147
inside the temple, just
like in Jesus's time.
1742
01:21:42,147 --> 01:21:44,190
We gotta talk to this Texas cattle rancher
1743
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:45,859
who shipped over the red cow.
1744
01:21:46,902 --> 01:21:49,446
- The temple is the fulcrum
1745
01:21:49,446 --> 01:21:51,698
of the conflict, that's for sure,
1746
01:21:51,698 --> 01:21:53,992
and the red heifers are the start of that.
1747
01:21:53,992 --> 01:21:55,911
- [Kam] So you're saying
the red heifer sacrifice
1748
01:21:55,911 --> 01:21:57,287
could start something bigger?
1749
01:21:57,287 --> 01:21:59,497
- Well, I'll say this, today we're closer
1750
01:21:59,497 --> 01:22:03,084
to a World War III type
event than we were yesterday
1751
01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:06,463
and tomorrow we'll be even
closer and it is coming, period.
1752
01:22:07,797 --> 01:22:10,550
(dramatic music)
1753
01:22:26,983 --> 01:22:30,570
(dramatic music continues)
1754
01:22:35,325 --> 01:22:38,370
- When going against mainstream beliefs,
1755
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:40,288
especially religious beliefs,
1756
01:22:40,288 --> 01:22:42,123
you can expect to be threatened.
1757
01:22:42,123 --> 01:22:45,210
The humanitarian church is
constantly under attack,
1758
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:48,129
whether it's verbal
attacks, online attacks,
1759
01:22:48,129 --> 01:22:50,715
or people breaking in
without stealing anything
1760
01:22:50,715 --> 01:22:52,425
and just ripping out the electric
1761
01:22:52,425 --> 01:22:54,594
so that the Sunday service
could not be produced.
1762
01:22:54,594 --> 01:22:56,346
I get stalked out there all the time.
1763
01:22:56,346 --> 01:22:58,390
They know my schedule,
they know when I'm leaving,
1764
01:22:58,390 --> 01:23:01,976
when I'm coming back,
they will stop at nothing
1765
01:23:01,976 --> 01:23:04,562
to keep this truth from getting out.
1766
01:23:04,562 --> 01:23:06,648
The church will tell you that the story
1767
01:23:06,648 --> 01:23:09,359
about the den of thieves
was about Jesus Christ
1768
01:23:09,359 --> 01:23:11,778
knocking over the money changers' table.
1769
01:23:11,778 --> 01:23:12,821
That's not the case.
1770
01:23:12,821 --> 01:23:16,241
The truth of the story is
Jesus Christ was striking
1771
01:23:16,241 --> 01:23:18,993
at the root of all there is that is evil,
1772
01:23:18,993 --> 01:23:20,245
of oppression of people,
1773
01:23:20,245 --> 01:23:23,832
of the construct of war in one fell swoop.
1774
01:23:23,832 --> 01:23:27,460
He was crucified for disrupting
the culture of the time,
1775
01:23:27,460 --> 01:23:29,921
which was killing animals for profit
1776
01:23:29,921 --> 01:23:31,798
and eating them for food.
1777
01:23:31,798 --> 01:23:33,091
- [Interviewer] If that's true, though,
1778
01:23:33,091 --> 01:23:36,428
then why did Jesus call them thieves?
1779
01:23:36,428 --> 01:23:38,680
- And he turned over their tables.
1780
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,391
- He cried out, you've
made my father's house
1781
01:23:41,391 --> 01:23:43,435
the den of thieves.
- The den of thieves.
1782
01:23:43,435 --> 01:23:44,769
- Well, in that case he shouldn't have
1783
01:23:44,769 --> 01:23:46,563
driven out all the animals.
1784
01:23:46,563 --> 01:23:51,401
- He drove them out of the
temple, cattle, sheep and all.
1785
01:23:51,401 --> 01:23:53,611
- Jesus would not allow anyone
1786
01:23:53,611 --> 01:23:55,613
carrying these animals in and out.
1787
01:23:55,613 --> 01:23:59,868
He shuts the temple
down for the whole day.
1788
01:23:59,868 --> 01:24:02,495
And everybody's listening,
what is this guy gonna do next?
1789
01:24:02,495 --> 01:24:05,248
(dramatic music)
1790
01:24:06,249 --> 01:24:11,212
- What's wrong, Jesus,
why are you so upset?
1791
01:24:11,463 --> 01:24:14,549
What does he say and what's wrong?
1792
01:24:15,383 --> 01:24:17,927
- [Interviewer] If it were
really about killing animals,
1793
01:24:17,927 --> 01:24:19,929
it seems like you wouldn't
call them thieves,
1794
01:24:19,929 --> 01:24:22,015
you'd call them violent or killers.
1795
01:24:22,015 --> 01:24:25,310
- Jesus Christ did not really call
1796
01:24:25,310 --> 01:24:27,645
the temple a den of thieves.
1797
01:24:27,645 --> 01:24:30,356
Find out the true translation
of the word thieves
1798
01:24:30,356 --> 01:24:33,234
and you'll know what
Jesus was calling them.
1799
01:24:33,234 --> 01:24:36,070
- [Kip] To finally see once and for all
1800
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:38,573
what Jesus's true intentions were
1801
01:24:38,573 --> 01:24:42,452
when he stormed the temple
that led to his crucifixion,
1802
01:24:42,452 --> 01:24:46,331
we found a leading scholar on
biblical Hebrew translation.
1803
01:24:48,833 --> 01:24:52,545
- He's in Jerusalem for the final few days
1804
01:24:52,545 --> 01:24:54,756
of his earthly life,
1805
01:24:54,756 --> 01:24:56,257
but it's quite unusual for him
1806
01:24:56,257 --> 01:25:01,221
to go off at the deep end,
so to speak, like this.
1807
01:25:01,888 --> 01:25:05,767
And it's like he's going,
okay, now I can really show you
1808
01:25:05,767 --> 01:25:10,730
who I am and let rip and creates havoc
1809
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:13,024
and says, this is my father's house.
1810
01:25:13,024 --> 01:25:14,901
It should be a house of
prayer for all nations,
1811
01:25:14,901 --> 01:25:17,153
but you have turned it
into a den of robbers.
1812
01:25:18,154 --> 01:25:20,490
- [Interviewer] So we've
heard he called them thieves
1813
01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:22,659
and now you're saying robbers.
1814
01:25:22,659 --> 01:25:25,411
So what is the real Hebrew translation
1815
01:25:25,411 --> 01:25:27,997
for what Jesus called the
priests in the temple?
1816
01:25:29,958 --> 01:25:32,877
- Right, let me have a
look and see where it comes
1817
01:25:32,877 --> 01:25:35,130
and what exactly it says.
1818
01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:38,216
(pages rustling)
1819
01:25:38,216 --> 01:25:40,218
(speaks in Hebrew) Yeah,
so that's interesting.
1820
01:25:40,218 --> 01:25:42,720
Yes, do you know, I never realized that,
1821
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,390
that's a kind of a-ha moment, yes.
1822
01:25:46,266 --> 01:25:48,184
- [Interviewer] And what does the word,
1823
01:25:48,184 --> 01:25:51,229
- (speaks in Hebrew) mean.
1824
01:25:51,229 --> 01:25:52,522
Another book! (mutters in Hebrew)
1825
01:25:52,522 --> 01:25:56,109
Well, we'll have to look
up (speaks in Hebrew)
1826
01:25:56,109 --> 01:25:58,027
in the Hebrew dictionary, as well.
1827
01:26:02,699 --> 01:26:06,369
(speaks in Hebrew) Yes, a violent one.
1828
01:26:06,369 --> 01:26:08,079
(ominous music)
1829
01:26:08,079 --> 01:26:09,497
- [Interviewer] And that's
what he called the priests
1830
01:26:09,497 --> 01:26:11,166
doing the sacrifice?
1831
01:26:11,166 --> 01:26:12,000
- Yeah.
1832
01:26:15,503 --> 01:26:17,922
- [Interviewer] So it's the killing then.
1833
01:26:17,922 --> 01:26:20,216
- Yes, ferocious apparently.
1834
01:26:21,885 --> 01:26:25,388
(ominous music continues)
1835
01:26:31,352 --> 01:26:33,980
- [Interviewer] So not only
did he sacrifice his life
1836
01:26:33,980 --> 01:26:38,818
for humans, but to stop the
killing of animals, as well.
1837
01:26:41,321 --> 01:26:42,989
- Yeah, it is interesting.
1838
01:26:42,989 --> 01:26:45,283
And it certainly raises
a number of questions
1839
01:26:47,702 --> 01:26:50,997
- On the eve before Jesus's crucifixion,
1840
01:26:50,997 --> 01:26:54,334
he held his final
protest, the Last Supper,
1841
01:26:54,334 --> 01:26:57,837
which should have been centered
around a Passover lamb.
1842
01:26:57,837 --> 01:26:59,047
- In the Ebionite gospel,
1843
01:26:59,047 --> 01:27:03,301
Jesus specifically rejected
eating meat at the Passover.
1844
01:27:03,301 --> 01:27:06,930
Jesus says I've come to
destroy the sacrifices
1845
01:27:06,930 --> 01:27:09,182
and if you do not cease from sacrificing,
1846
01:27:09,182 --> 01:27:11,434
wrath will not cease from you.
1847
01:27:11,434 --> 01:27:15,063
- And he says this is my meat, this bread,
1848
01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:18,524
and this wine is my blood, so to speak.
1849
01:27:18,524 --> 01:27:20,860
Meaning this is all we need.
1850
01:27:20,860 --> 01:27:22,111
We don't need the lamb.
1851
01:27:22,111 --> 01:27:24,781
Let's do the things that
belong to the kingdom of God.
1852
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:28,993
What would make the planet
go back to an Eden state?
1853
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:32,872
(dramatic music)
1854
01:27:49,138 --> 01:27:52,266
- You know, if we look close
enough, we can see the hints
1855
01:27:52,266 --> 01:27:54,102
in paintings and scripture.
1856
01:27:55,019 --> 01:27:56,354
It's just that it's easier
1857
01:27:56,354 --> 01:28:00,316
to cover up the truth
than to talk about it.
1858
01:28:00,316 --> 01:28:03,903
(dramatic music continues)
1859
01:28:12,996 --> 01:28:15,790
- [Interviewer] How has
this truth about Jesus
1860
01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:20,420
been covered up for 2,000 years?
1861
01:28:20,420 --> 01:28:23,589
- (chuckles) Because of
course the meat eaters won.
1862
01:28:23,589 --> 01:28:26,342
As it's often been said,
history is the province
1863
01:28:26,342 --> 01:28:30,888
of the winners and now we're
living with the consequences.
1864
01:28:31,764 --> 01:28:34,225
- [Interviewer] And what do
we know about the winners?
1865
01:28:34,225 --> 01:28:36,978
- What we do know is that
1866
01:28:36,978 --> 01:28:40,023
Paul was fiercely anti-vegetarian
1867
01:28:40,023 --> 01:28:43,651
and his influence has undoubtedly
influenced the direction
1868
01:28:43,651 --> 01:28:47,739
of Christianity and especially
during the first century.
1869
01:28:47,739 --> 01:28:51,367
- St. Paul is a Roman leader
who spread Christianity
1870
01:28:51,367 --> 01:28:54,579
to the masses, encouraged
converts to eat meat,
1871
01:28:54,579 --> 01:28:56,581
condemning the movement that didn't.
1872
01:28:56,581 --> 01:28:58,291
Funny, many people don't know
1873
01:28:58,291 --> 01:29:00,293
that Jesus had a brother James.
1874
01:29:00,293 --> 01:29:01,294
And why is that?
1875
01:29:01,294 --> 01:29:03,755
We have all of these additional sources,
1876
01:29:03,755 --> 01:29:05,798
the main thing is his lifestyle.
1877
01:29:05,798 --> 01:29:07,300
He doesn't eat meat.
1878
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:09,844
He lived off what grew of itself.
1879
01:29:09,844 --> 01:29:12,930
- James, the brother of Jesus,
was clearly a vegetarian
1880
01:29:12,930 --> 01:29:15,850
and he was head of the Jerusalem church.
1881
01:29:15,850 --> 01:29:18,061
- He's called the pillar of the church.
1882
01:29:18,061 --> 01:29:20,104
The so-called pillars, Paul says,
1883
01:29:20,104 --> 01:29:23,191
'cause Paul didn't necessarily
always agree with James.
1884
01:29:23,191 --> 01:29:26,027
Later, James was brutally
murdered in the temple
1885
01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:29,489
by the same gang of priests
that killed his brother Jesus.
1886
01:29:29,489 --> 01:29:33,076
And then he's largely written
out of the New Testament.
1887
01:29:33,076 --> 01:29:35,912
- [Rob] The church amplified
Paul's pro meat writings,
1888
01:29:35,912 --> 01:29:38,498
while burning the books that didn't align
1889
01:29:38,498 --> 01:29:40,208
with their new doctrine.
1890
01:29:40,208 --> 01:29:43,878
- We know that the gospel of
the Ebionites that portrays
1891
01:29:43,878 --> 01:29:47,924
Jesus as a vegetarian was
actively suppressed by the church.
1892
01:29:47,924 --> 01:29:50,551
- [James] These texts of
the followers of James,
1893
01:29:50,551 --> 01:29:53,137
the brother of Jesus,
were lost to history.
1894
01:29:53,137 --> 01:29:55,848
They were overshadowed by what Paul wrote
1895
01:29:55,848 --> 01:29:58,518
and his writings effectively replaced
1896
01:29:58,518 --> 01:30:00,812
the original message of Jesus
1897
01:30:00,812 --> 01:30:04,690
and James for which they lived and died.
1898
01:30:04,690 --> 01:30:07,902
- [Rob] The remaining Nasaraene
movement was weeded out.
1899
01:30:07,902 --> 01:30:10,738
Eventually they were all killed off
1900
01:30:10,738 --> 01:30:12,657
(dramatic music)
1901
01:30:12,657 --> 01:30:15,576
over the argument of the
consumption of animals.
1902
01:30:15,576 --> 01:30:17,829
Only years after their leader, Jesus,
1903
01:30:17,829 --> 01:30:20,331
was crucified as a terrorist.
1904
01:30:21,332 --> 01:30:22,959
- Well that's why I say he's the lamb
1905
01:30:22,959 --> 01:30:25,461
who liberates the lambs.
1906
01:30:25,461 --> 01:30:28,131
You see, the good,
1907
01:30:28,131 --> 01:30:32,218
the good shepherd lays down
his life for the sheep.
1908
01:30:34,053 --> 01:30:38,141
A reversal of the traditional
practice of shepherding
1909
01:30:38,141 --> 01:30:40,977
who looks after the animals
and slaughters them.
1910
01:30:40,977 --> 01:30:43,062
It is the good shepherd who lays down
1911
01:30:43,062 --> 01:30:44,230
his life for the sheep.
1912
01:30:46,357 --> 01:30:47,900
Quite a radical line, isn't it?
1913
01:30:49,277 --> 01:30:52,029
(dramatic music)
1914
01:30:54,157 --> 01:30:56,951
- If Jesus was walking the
earth now the way he did,
1915
01:30:56,951 --> 01:31:00,955
and for what he did, today,
what do you think he'd be doing?
1916
01:31:00,955 --> 01:31:03,124
♪ Is there a right way to kill a beast ♪
1917
01:31:03,124 --> 01:31:06,002
♪ Justify energy and
blood on the streets ♪
1918
01:31:06,002 --> 01:31:09,088
- If Jesus were to do the
same equivalent kind of thing
1919
01:31:09,088 --> 01:31:10,590
today as going into the temple,
1920
01:31:10,590 --> 01:31:12,842
he'd be considered a terrorist,
1921
01:31:12,842 --> 01:31:14,594
a threat to public order.
1922
01:31:14,594 --> 01:31:16,554
♪ Religious doctrine never made a profit ♪
1923
01:31:16,554 --> 01:31:18,973
♪ Souls of the innocent
creation get adopted ♪
1924
01:31:18,973 --> 01:31:20,141
♪ Slit the throats of the lamb ♪
1925
01:31:20,141 --> 01:31:22,643
♪ See, the nation nation's
gotta stop it, huh ♪
1926
01:31:22,643 --> 01:31:24,770
♪ Pharisees right now the temple ♪
1927
01:31:24,770 --> 01:31:26,856
♪ Slaughtering sheep
while making an event ♪
1928
01:31:26,856 --> 01:31:28,024
♪ We'll flip the tables ♪
1929
01:31:28,024 --> 01:31:30,651
♪ No intentions of being
gentle, that's crazy ♪
1930
01:31:30,651 --> 01:31:31,569
♪ I'm getting mental on these ♪
1931
01:31:31,569 --> 01:31:35,698
- What Jesus did was actually
an act of animal liberation.
1932
01:31:35,698 --> 01:31:38,284
♪ Unalive what, for the
cause to make credentials ♪
1933
01:31:38,284 --> 01:31:41,954
♪ Thou shall not kill is the
law, let's make it simple ♪
1934
01:31:41,954 --> 01:31:45,374
♪ Den of thieves, what's the
right way to kill a beast ♪
1935
01:31:45,374 --> 01:31:48,461
- 2004, the FBI designated
animal rights movements
1936
01:31:48,461 --> 01:31:51,214
the number-one domestic
terror threats in the country
1937
01:31:51,214 --> 01:31:52,965
despite the fact that
neither of these movements
1938
01:31:52,965 --> 01:31:54,300
has ever once physically injured
1939
01:31:54,300 --> 01:31:56,552
a single person in this country, ever.
1940
01:31:56,552 --> 01:31:58,471
♪ Why you got a knife, what's this ♪
1941
01:31:58,471 --> 01:32:00,932
♪ How you take a life with
the life's that's within you ♪
1942
01:32:00,932 --> 01:32:03,434
♪ Then you caught me writing,
got Christ deep within you ♪
1943
01:32:03,434 --> 01:32:05,436
♪ What's the cost of a
soul, check the price ♪
1944
01:32:05,436 --> 01:32:07,188
♪ That's within you, den of thieves ♪
1945
01:32:07,188 --> 01:32:08,981
- [Kip] After all that we had learned,
1946
01:32:08,981 --> 01:32:13,611
it felt now the only choice was
to stand up and take action.
1947
01:32:13,611 --> 01:32:17,323
It felt daunting and dangerous
to be considered a terrorist
1948
01:32:17,323 --> 01:32:18,616
or face jail time.
1949
01:32:18,616 --> 01:32:20,451
But we push forward and join marches
1950
01:32:20,451 --> 01:32:23,621
for the animals, rallied
against slaughterhouses,
1951
01:32:23,621 --> 01:32:24,789
and sought out activists
1952
01:32:24,789 --> 01:32:28,751
to learn from, including one
terrorist awaiting trial.
1953
01:32:30,336 --> 01:32:31,587
- Hi, Kip.
1954
01:32:31,587 --> 01:32:33,422
- Is this what a terrorist looks like?
1955
01:32:33,422 --> 01:32:36,259
- Yeah, apparently so, that's
what I'm told (giggles).
1956
01:32:37,218 --> 01:32:41,013
I was on a particular open
rescue where we became aware
1957
01:32:41,013 --> 01:32:43,849
of a company in Utah called Norbest.
1958
01:32:43,849 --> 01:32:46,143
Their website shows an open field,
1959
01:32:46,143 --> 01:32:47,561
beautiful bucolic setting.
1960
01:32:47,561 --> 01:32:49,146
And we went to investigate
1961
01:32:49,146 --> 01:32:51,399
and see what actually
condition the turkeys were in.
1962
01:32:51,399 --> 01:32:53,568
They were packed
together, very distressed,
1963
01:32:53,568 --> 01:32:55,444
many of them laying on
the floor already dead.
1964
01:32:55,444 --> 01:32:58,239
Some were clearly dying, gasping for air.
1965
01:32:58,239 --> 01:32:59,824
So it's basically it's humane washing.
1966
01:32:59,824 --> 01:33:00,825
They want people to feel
1967
01:33:00,825 --> 01:33:03,703
that these turkeys are
living beautiful, happy lives
1968
01:33:03,703 --> 01:33:06,038
and nothing could be
further from the truth.
1969
01:33:06,038 --> 01:33:08,374
We saved three baby turkeys
1970
01:33:08,374 --> 01:33:11,627
and I helped carry them to safety.
1971
01:33:11,627 --> 01:33:14,422
- [Kip] And what are you
being charged with now?
1972
01:33:14,422 --> 01:33:16,716
- Felony burglary and felony theft.
1973
01:33:16,716 --> 01:33:19,969
And each one carries a maximum
sentence of five years,
1974
01:33:19,969 --> 01:33:22,096
so that would be a total of 10 years.
1975
01:33:22,096 --> 01:33:24,932
- So are you a threat to society?
1976
01:33:24,932 --> 01:33:26,684
- Gee, I don't think so (chuckles).
1977
01:33:28,394 --> 01:33:29,770
I hope not.
1978
01:33:29,770 --> 01:33:31,355
(dramatic music)
1979
01:33:31,355 --> 01:33:34,233
- [Kip] It seemed to Diane
her charges were worth it
1980
01:33:34,233 --> 01:33:36,652
if just one life could be saved,
1981
01:33:36,652 --> 01:33:39,780
which reminded us of DeepJay
and how despite the threats
1982
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:43,367
and loss of Gadhimai, he said
it would all be worthwhile
1983
01:33:43,367 --> 01:33:46,412
if he could save just one life.
1984
01:33:46,412 --> 01:33:48,205
- What do you think?
- Yeah, I think it is.
1985
01:33:48,205 --> 01:33:49,874
- [Kip] He says it's his?
1986
01:33:49,874 --> 01:33:52,627
(peaceful music)
1987
01:34:03,971 --> 01:34:05,556
Kam, say yay.
1988
01:34:05,556 --> 01:34:07,475
- Yay.
(goat bleats)
1989
01:34:07,475 --> 01:34:10,519
Yay.
(goat bleats)
1990
01:34:10,519 --> 01:34:11,729
Yay.
1991
01:34:11,729 --> 01:34:12,563
- [Interviewer] Do you feel it's possible
1992
01:34:12,563 --> 01:34:15,399
to be spiritual and eat animals?
1993
01:34:15,399 --> 01:34:17,610
- No, it is not at all possible.
1994
01:34:17,610 --> 01:34:19,278
It is just not possible.
1995
01:34:20,571 --> 01:34:24,200
Because to be spiritual is to simply know
1996
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,118
that killing this, destroying that
1997
01:34:27,495 --> 01:34:31,123
is about moving from
completion to incompletion.
1998
01:34:31,123 --> 01:34:33,459
How can a spiritual man do that?
1999
01:34:33,459 --> 01:34:34,960
Spirituality is about moving
2000
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,962
from incompletion to completion.
2001
01:34:36,962 --> 01:34:39,548
- You know, I think a more
appropriate question is,
2002
01:34:39,548 --> 01:34:43,469
what does it mean to
be human and eat meat?
2003
01:34:43,469 --> 01:34:45,096
That's maybe a more important question.
2004
01:34:45,096 --> 01:34:47,390
- Sometimes people think
we're called human beings
2005
01:34:47,390 --> 01:34:50,309
for a reason, but the only
reason is we've named ourselves,
2006
01:34:50,309 --> 01:34:54,271
we're called human beings,
which shares the the same root
2007
01:34:54,271 --> 01:34:56,399
as the word humane beings.
2008
01:34:56,399 --> 01:34:58,192
The kind ones, in a way
2009
01:34:58,192 --> 01:35:00,611
we've named ourselves aspirationally.
2010
01:35:00,611 --> 01:35:04,865
Do we want to make the most
of our most human ability,
2011
01:35:04,865 --> 01:35:07,993
which is our ability for empathy?
2012
01:35:07,993 --> 01:35:10,746
There've been studies that
show for vegans, for example,
2013
01:35:10,746 --> 01:35:12,748
the parts of the brain that are involved
2014
01:35:12,748 --> 01:35:15,042
in their emotional lives really fire.
2015
01:35:15,042 --> 01:35:17,044
As a biologist, what that
shows is that there's
2016
01:35:17,044 --> 01:35:20,381
a really deep connection
there, felt connection.
2017
01:35:20,381 --> 01:35:22,716
- [Kip] Neuroscientists studying 12 years
2018
01:35:22,716 --> 01:35:24,677
to find the happiest human on earth
2019
01:35:24,677 --> 01:35:27,138
found that when Buddhist
monk Matthieu Ricard,
2020
01:35:27,138 --> 01:35:29,390
who's vegan, meditates on compassion
2021
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:32,768
for all beings, capacity
for happiness increases,
2022
01:35:32,768 --> 01:35:34,979
and his brain fires the highest levels
2023
01:35:34,979 --> 01:35:37,565
of gamma waves ever reported in history,
2024
01:35:37,565 --> 01:35:40,484
linked to consciousness,
learning, and memory.
2025
01:35:40,484 --> 01:35:43,863
- That's why the great
thinkers throughout history
2026
01:35:43,863 --> 01:35:45,698
ultimately were vegetarian.
2027
01:35:45,698 --> 01:35:48,159
Just Google who are the famous vegetarian
2028
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:52,204
and you find Einstein,
Tesla, Leonardo da Vinci,
2029
01:35:52,204 --> 01:35:53,747
on and on and on.
2030
01:35:53,747 --> 01:35:55,541
(dramatic music)
2031
01:35:55,541 --> 01:35:57,918
Leonardo da Vinci when
he started making money,
2032
01:35:57,918 --> 01:35:59,545
would go into the market
2033
01:35:59,545 --> 01:36:01,839
and buy up all the
chickens in the marketplace
2034
01:36:01,839 --> 01:36:03,632
and then take 'em out into the woods
2035
01:36:03,632 --> 01:36:04,800
and then let 'em all go.
2036
01:36:06,343 --> 01:36:08,304
- [Kip] It all came full circle.
2037
01:36:08,304 --> 01:36:09,597
The holy land now has one
2038
01:36:09,597 --> 01:36:12,433
of the highest vegans
per capita in the world
2039
01:36:12,433 --> 01:36:14,477
with the first fully vegan hospital.
2040
01:36:14,477 --> 01:36:17,229
And even Chief Rabbi
Zarki put down his knife
2041
01:36:17,229 --> 01:36:18,856
and became vegan.
2042
01:36:23,944 --> 01:36:26,155
And there's even an entire vegan village
2043
01:36:26,155 --> 01:36:28,407
of African Hebrew Israelites.
2044
01:36:28,407 --> 01:36:30,451
- The word vegan in Hebrew
is (speaks in Hebrew).
2045
01:36:30,451 --> 01:36:32,077
It comes from the root
word of (speaks in Hebrew),
2046
01:36:32,077 --> 01:36:33,454
which means nature.
2047
01:36:33,454 --> 01:36:37,291
That means connect to the
earth, the trees, the flowers,
2048
01:36:37,291 --> 01:36:40,711
all the animals, and everybody
praise God in their own way.
2049
01:36:40,711 --> 01:36:44,381
That's really a vision of
the new Garden of Eden.
2050
01:36:44,381 --> 01:36:46,342
- All around the world now we're seeing
2051
01:36:46,342 --> 01:36:49,053
an amazing transformation as land
2052
01:36:49,053 --> 01:36:52,181
that was used for animal
farming is being re-wilded.
2053
01:36:53,015 --> 01:36:56,977
And I feel we're there,
we have it in our hands.
2054
01:36:56,977 --> 01:36:59,647
We just have to remember who we are.
2055
01:36:59,647 --> 01:37:02,399
- [Kip] Even Texas cattle
ranchers like Renee King Sonnen
2056
01:37:02,399 --> 01:37:05,277
are turning their
ranches into sanctuaries.
2057
01:37:05,277 --> 01:37:06,862
- Well, you know, Kam, you and I have
2058
01:37:06,862 --> 01:37:08,614
a very similar background.
2059
01:37:08,614 --> 01:37:11,116
I grew up Christian, writing gospel music,
2060
01:37:11,116 --> 01:37:13,494
and I am so grateful that
I've learned the meaning
2061
01:37:13,494 --> 01:37:16,205
of stewardship, the
meaning of true dominion.
2062
01:37:16,205 --> 01:37:19,291
'Cause there ain't nothing
in my brain that tells me
2063
01:37:19,291 --> 01:37:22,336
that there's a spiritual
way to kill an animal.
2064
01:37:22,336 --> 01:37:25,631
There is just no right
way to do the wrong thing.
2065
01:37:26,674 --> 01:37:29,802
- To access the deepest part of yourself,
2066
01:37:29,802 --> 01:37:32,221
which has been suppressed
through a variety
2067
01:37:32,221 --> 01:37:34,181
of lessons about not caring,
2068
01:37:34,181 --> 01:37:37,518
when we remove all those sort of boulders,
2069
01:37:37,518 --> 01:37:40,521
when we roll away the
boulder, what's within?
2070
01:37:40,521 --> 01:37:42,064
Well, that's the gift.
2071
01:37:42,064 --> 01:37:44,275
- [Kip] From the environment
to spiritual health,
2072
01:37:44,275 --> 01:37:48,863
more and more I feel the most
important question I can ask
2073
01:37:48,863 --> 01:37:52,950
is how to spiritually honor
and protect animals as equals
2074
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:55,327
and treat them with the
same level of respect
2075
01:37:55,327 --> 01:37:57,162
as we treat each other.
2076
01:37:57,162 --> 01:37:59,415
- I think not eating
animals is a first step
2077
01:38:00,291 --> 01:38:03,419
in the quest towards humanity.
2078
01:38:03,419 --> 01:38:05,462
- I think on the journey
of being where I am now
2079
01:38:05,462 --> 01:38:08,757
as plant-based, it's a
long way from where I was.
2080
01:38:08,757 --> 01:38:10,843
For the first time,
everything kind of makes sense
2081
01:38:10,843 --> 01:38:13,012
in terms of my mission and my purpose.
2082
01:38:13,012 --> 01:38:15,180
My spirit feels elevated.
2083
01:38:28,777 --> 01:38:31,030
- When you look into someone's eyes,
2084
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:33,115
you're looking at their personhood,
2085
01:38:33,115 --> 01:38:35,200
you're looking at their soul.
2086
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,286
- And if you are really awake,
2087
01:38:37,286 --> 01:38:41,373
you will only see your own deep innocence,
2088
01:38:41,373 --> 01:38:43,626
which might be hidden from you.
2089
01:38:43,626 --> 01:38:46,712
- I see a being that desires
to live as much as I do
2090
01:38:46,712 --> 01:38:48,714
and has the right to do so.
2091
01:38:48,714 --> 01:38:51,300
- My life is that of an advocate
2092
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:55,346
for the most vulnerable
living beings on Earth.
2093
01:38:55,346 --> 01:38:58,182
- [Maneka] The basis of all
religion, it is simply this,
2094
01:38:58,182 --> 01:38:59,308
always be kind
2095
01:39:00,225 --> 01:39:01,101
(camera clicking)
2096
01:39:01,101 --> 01:39:04,563
- Along this journey, I
felt at times as if I was
2097
01:39:04,563 --> 01:39:06,398
moving away from my faith.
2098
01:39:06,398 --> 01:39:08,609
But what I now realize is
2099
01:39:08,609 --> 01:39:11,111
that all the while I was
actually moving closer
2100
01:39:11,111 --> 01:39:13,989
to what it really means
to be a Christ follower.
2101
01:39:13,989 --> 01:39:16,784
And the one thing that
unites all religions
2102
01:39:16,784 --> 01:39:19,203
and spiritual traditions at the root
2103
01:39:19,203 --> 01:39:21,330
is compassion for all beings.
2104
01:39:21,330 --> 01:39:24,375
- See, animals are not just beings.
2105
01:39:24,375 --> 01:39:26,251
They have anima, a life.
2106
01:39:27,711 --> 01:39:29,505
They do something fundamentally
2107
01:39:29,505 --> 01:39:30,881
spiritually important for us
2108
01:39:30,881 --> 01:39:34,551
and that is to take us out of
ourselves, to give us a sense
2109
01:39:34,551 --> 01:39:38,013
of wonder and awe at the universe to see
2110
01:39:38,013 --> 01:39:41,767
beyond the natural world, to
the spirit moving within it
2111
01:39:41,767 --> 01:39:43,811
with which one can connect,
2112
01:39:43,811 --> 01:39:46,855
with which one can have a relationship,
2113
01:39:46,855 --> 01:39:49,525
which can indeed mediate the grace of God.
2114
01:39:50,609 --> 01:39:52,444
Is that what you mean by spirituality?
2115
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:56,115
- We're actually speaking about
a moment in which everyone
2116
01:39:56,115 --> 01:40:00,953
sees that, that same spark
of divinity is in all beings,
2117
01:40:00,953 --> 01:40:02,663
whether they're winged, or four-legged,
2118
01:40:02,663 --> 01:40:04,415
or whether they're swimming in the sea.
2119
01:40:04,415 --> 01:40:09,420
- And one by one by one, we
become those understanding,
2120
01:40:10,170 --> 01:40:15,175
compassionate creatures and
we create a gigantic game
2121
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:16,719
of tag around the world.
2122
01:40:17,761 --> 01:40:22,766
I'm talking about 10, 20 million prophets,
2123
01:40:23,892 --> 01:40:28,605
masters on this earth,
all being as Christ-like
2124
01:40:28,605 --> 01:40:32,693
as Jesus, as the Buddha,
as Prophet Muhammad,
2125
01:40:32,693 --> 01:40:36,280
as any of the great masters
that have ever lived.
2126
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,366
This is not the age of one great leader.
2127
01:40:39,366 --> 01:40:42,870
This is the age of great leadership.
2128
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:45,080
And what I basically have to say
2129
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:49,877
to anybody watching
this is tag, you're it.
2130
01:40:50,961 --> 01:40:52,880
♪ One, two, three, four ♪
2131
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,007
♪ Oh, Jesus, I love you ♪
2132
01:40:55,007 --> 01:40:56,508
♪ And I love Buddha, too ♪
2133
01:40:56,508 --> 01:40:58,343
♪ Rama Krishna Guru Dev ♪
2134
01:40:58,343 --> 01:41:00,304
♪ Daodejing and Muhammad ♪
2135
01:41:00,304 --> 01:41:02,389
♪ Why do some people say ♪
2136
01:41:02,389 --> 01:41:03,849
♪ That there is just one way ♪
2137
01:41:03,849 --> 01:41:05,726
♪ To love you, God. and come to you ♪
2138
01:41:05,726 --> 01:41:07,603
♪ We are all a part of you ♪
2139
01:41:07,603 --> 01:41:09,772
♪ You are unnameable ♪
2140
01:41:09,772 --> 01:41:11,398
♪ You are unknowable ♪
2141
01:41:11,398 --> 01:41:13,567
♪ All we have is metaphor ♪
2142
01:41:13,567 --> 01:41:15,360
- Thank you for watching "Christspiracy"
2143
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,279
and bearing witness.
2144
01:41:17,279 --> 01:41:20,282
You may be feeling some
conflicting emotions right now,
2145
01:41:20,282 --> 01:41:24,078
perhaps some confusion, sadness,
anger, a sense of betrayal
2146
01:41:24,078 --> 01:41:27,873
or injustice, or maybe
you're feeling energized
2147
01:41:27,873 --> 01:41:32,252
and inspired to do something
to make a difference,
2148
01:41:32,252 --> 01:41:34,379
just as all of these
people whose names here
2149
01:41:34,379 --> 01:41:36,924
on the screen have boldly done.
2150
01:41:36,924 --> 01:41:38,509
- While you watched this film,
2151
01:41:38,509 --> 01:41:41,220
five million animals were slaughtered.
2152
01:41:41,220 --> 01:41:42,930
Each one of them an individual
2153
01:41:42,930 --> 01:41:45,307
with a soul who wanted to live.
2154
01:41:45,307 --> 01:41:47,893
The scale of their
killing is unimaginable,
2155
01:41:47,893 --> 01:41:50,521
just as the length of time
this historical coverup
2156
01:41:50,521 --> 01:41:53,148
has been perpetrated is unimaginable,
2157
01:41:53,148 --> 01:41:55,025
but the truth has been set free.
2158
01:41:55,025 --> 01:41:57,694
And now it's your turn to raise your voice
2159
01:41:57,694 --> 01:42:00,322
for those whose voices we can't hear
2160
01:42:00,322 --> 01:42:03,033
and get this truth out into the world.
2161
01:42:03,033 --> 01:42:06,453
- You may be asking
yourself, what can I do?
2162
01:42:06,453 --> 01:42:08,705
And the absolute number-one priority is
2163
01:42:08,705 --> 01:42:10,541
to get this film seen.
2164
01:42:10,541 --> 01:42:13,293
It's vital that people learn the realities
2165
01:42:13,293 --> 01:42:16,547
of animal agriculture
and how this spiritual
2166
01:42:16,547 --> 01:42:19,842
and ethical call to treat
animals compassionately
2167
01:42:19,842 --> 01:42:22,928
has been covered up for so long.
2168
01:42:22,928 --> 01:42:25,556
- Our first goal is that "Christspiracy"
2169
01:42:25,556 --> 01:42:27,516
gets three million views,
2170
01:42:27,516 --> 01:42:32,020
one for every animal killed
for food every single hour.
2171
01:42:32,020 --> 01:42:34,439
They are the reason we
made "Christspiracy"
2172
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,608
and they are the reason we need your help
2173
01:42:36,608 --> 01:42:38,527
to get this film seen.
2174
01:42:38,527 --> 01:42:40,863
That's why we built this
pay it forward platform.
2175
01:42:40,863 --> 01:42:43,532
- Because of you,
"Christspiracy" is accessible
2176
01:42:43,532 --> 01:42:45,868
to everyone, no matter where they live
2177
01:42:45,868 --> 01:42:48,036
or what their financial status is.
2178
01:42:48,036 --> 01:42:51,498
And the power of this film
resides into those who are able
2179
01:42:51,498 --> 01:42:53,917
to keep the chain of compassion going
2180
01:42:53,917 --> 01:42:56,920
by paying it forward for someone else.
2181
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,257
- And when you do for others
what someone has already done
2182
01:43:00,257 --> 01:43:02,259
for you and pay it forward,
2183
01:43:02,259 --> 01:43:05,387
you'll also unlock some fantastic perks,
2184
01:43:05,387 --> 01:43:08,932
the full HD version of the
film, extended interviews,
2185
01:43:08,932 --> 01:43:11,977
deleted scenes, behind the scenes stories,
2186
01:43:11,977 --> 01:43:14,229
access to our online community,
2187
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:16,481
a 30-day spiritual meal planner,
2188
01:43:16,481 --> 01:43:19,651
a seven-day challenge, and so much more.
2189
01:43:19,651 --> 01:43:21,361
- It's really worth paying it forward
2190
01:43:21,361 --> 01:43:23,405
for so many reasons if you can.
2191
01:43:23,405 --> 01:43:24,406
But even if you can't,
2192
01:43:24,406 --> 01:43:26,575
you can still play an essential part
2193
01:43:26,575 --> 01:43:28,952
in this compassionate
movement by recommending
2194
01:43:28,952 --> 01:43:31,914
"Christspiracy" to everyone you know.
2195
01:43:31,914 --> 01:43:33,373
You may already have someone in mind
2196
01:43:33,373 --> 01:43:35,626
that you know just has to see this film.
2197
01:43:35,626 --> 01:43:38,086
So send it to friends, send it to family,
2198
01:43:38,086 --> 01:43:39,880
tell your neighbors, and even strangers
2199
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,548
that you may meet on the street.
2200
01:43:41,548 --> 01:43:44,343
Awareness is everything.
2201
01:43:44,343 --> 01:43:46,929
- Compassion and the
golden rule is at the root
2202
01:43:46,929 --> 01:43:49,681
of all religions and spiritual traditions.
2203
01:43:49,681 --> 01:43:53,435
This empathetic, humane
teaching unites all traditions.
2204
01:43:53,435 --> 01:43:55,938
It allows us to build bridges between us.
2205
01:43:55,938 --> 01:43:58,690
It allows each of us to
connect to each other
2206
01:43:58,690 --> 01:44:01,944
and together become all that
we are truly meant to be.
2207
01:44:01,944 --> 01:44:04,738
- "Christspiracy" just
scratches the surface
2208
01:44:04,738 --> 01:44:07,866
of what certain scholars,
theologians, archeologists,
2209
01:44:07,866 --> 01:44:11,161
and others are coming to
understand about the true roots
2210
01:44:11,161 --> 01:44:14,373
of religion and our cultural traditions.
2211
01:44:14,373 --> 01:44:16,416
Their work in this film will,
2212
01:44:16,416 --> 01:44:20,545
because of your action, start
a domino effect of discussion,
2213
01:44:20,545 --> 01:44:23,382
debate, and compassion for all beings.
2214
01:44:23,382 --> 01:44:27,010
- And when you pay it
forward, 100% of all proceeds
2215
01:44:27,010 --> 01:44:29,429
go to animal charities, activism,
2216
01:44:29,429 --> 01:44:31,390
and reforestation projects.
2217
01:44:31,390 --> 01:44:34,142
The very real and beautiful transformation
2218
01:44:34,142 --> 01:44:36,395
of our world is already under way
2219
01:44:36,395 --> 01:44:39,815
thanks to people like you
who have seen "Christspiracy"
2220
01:44:39,815 --> 01:44:42,567
and ensured others get to see it too.
2221
01:44:42,567 --> 01:44:45,279
- Having spent seven
years making this film,
2222
01:44:45,279 --> 01:44:48,448
we are now handing the baton to you.
2223
01:44:48,448 --> 01:44:51,868
"Christspiracy" is more than
a movie, it is a movement.
2224
01:44:51,868 --> 01:44:54,913
So go ahead, play your
part, pay it forward,
2225
01:44:54,913 --> 01:44:56,832
and be part of this powerful
2226
01:44:56,832 --> 01:45:00,002
worldwide transformation for good.
2227
01:45:00,002 --> 01:45:01,670
Tag, you're it.
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