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The true spirit of an individual
whose talent influences history
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often remains unexplained.
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The exceptionality of their legacy
goes hand in hand with
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the ways they differ
from ordinary mortals.
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Often in direct contact we don't
understand them despite the fact
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they have entertained
millions of people.
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This film is my personal view
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into the spirit of a revolutionary
photographer and remarkable person.
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Although it's perhaps only
one view out of a thousand
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it made sense to try.
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present
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A SOMEWHAT TRUTHFUL Fl LM
by Adolf Zika
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When the war ended we returned
through a ruined land
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from an odd children's camp in Poland
where we were without our parents.
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On our way we saw terrible things
and it seemed endlessly long.
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l thought they would shoot
both my brother and me.
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l wondered if it would hurt.
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l remember how our soldiers burned
some German soldier to death.
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They hung him by his legs on a post
and poured gasoline over him .
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He shouted: "Mutti, Mutti!"
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But soon after that
the sun came out
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and l saw something that perhaps
l wasn't supposed to see so soon.
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TRAPPED B Y HlS PASSlONS,
NO HOPE FOR RESCUE
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"Genius or czar?"
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"Saudek still shocks"
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"Saudek's last show"
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"Farewell Jan"
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"Saudek provocateur..."
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Some jerk grabbed the Minister
of Culture at the Old Town Square
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to lure him to the National Gallery.
He said: "No, l want to see Saudek."
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And he replied:
"But that's pornography!"
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That's simplistic. Why does it sell
for thousands of dollars
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if you can buy a porno magazine
or a movie for ten dollars?
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Once l asked a factory workgirl
whom l was more than working with
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what art was and she said:
"Art is nonsense."
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That's a beautiful definition.
Let's stick to it.
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l support the triumph
of common sense.
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That's urine
from my ill female camel.
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l raise my cup of Georgian
wine to your health, Stalin.
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Jan Saudek's studiounder the Zizkov TV tower
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That's the real cocktail.
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-Jan, my entire body. . .
-Yes, l love all of you.
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-Wait.
-Okay?
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l love and when l love l let
the melons fall off the vine.
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l've always been like that.
lt's about time.
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Young ladies, l have this plan
and want to make this photograph...
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You will stand over me and pour
on me this sacramental wine
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which l stole from a church,
from the sacristy.
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l'd love to be in bliss
for a moment. Oh, that's it.
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Jan, what was your childhood like?
Applauded by everyone?
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There wasn't any applause at all.
lt was the worst time of my life.
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My youth wasn't much better
but l'd rather forget my childhood
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because people delude themselves
that this period of impotence,
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dependence and humiliation was
something beautiful. lt wasn't.
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But the saddest thing is
that already as a child,
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l remember it exactly,
already as an eight year old
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l desperately longed for
a woman's crotch and l still do.
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But back then it was not possible
to fulfill this desire
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which was stronger than the war's
chaos or so-called pals' bad deeds.
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l looked very infantile
and no woman or girl would,
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also for my innate shyness,
want to accommodate me.
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l remember as the war was ending
we saw the Russian army advance.
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They lie about it today.
Nobody wore a helmet on their head.
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Everyone was drunk, even the
German kids defending the Reich.
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The only difference was Russians
drank vodka and Germans schnapps.
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But otherwise it was professionals
against kids, at least in the end
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and there were many fallen ones.
l haven't seen so many dead since.
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Where did you spend the war?
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l n Prague but the last of it
l spent in a small children's camp...
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in Poland. There were kids from the
Bohemian and Moravian Protectorate
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selected for medical experiments
by that perverted Dr. Mengele.
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The peculiar thing and what would
be perfect for making it into a movie
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was that all those kids were twins.
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Now l realize that there weren't
any triplets or singles.
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That's bizarre and it
would make a very nice detail.
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Where were your parents?
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Our father was with his last brother
who after the war died of typhus,
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in Theresienstadt,
in the Small Fortress prison,
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and our mother struggled somewhere
in the country at her relatives.
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My relationship with my brother?
No doubt the biggest love of my life.
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lt can't be compared to love
for women and children,
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some of my children. lt can't be
compared. lt was an absolute love,
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crystal clear,
exceptionally strong.
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My brother was more famous, more
talented with an athlete's willpower.
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-He was better in every way.
-Did you inspire each other?
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Very much so. Since we were kids
we communicated in our own gibberish,
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incomprehensible to others.
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lt went on for a long time, ending
when we both got married of course.
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Women are behind everything,
the women split us up.
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lt's a constant question
whether at a crossroads
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we should choose to follow one way
and not try two or more ways.
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Running in all directions
leads to staggering.
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He should have made a choice
because he was a talented artist.
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He should have chosen his
work and sacrificed the family
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just like l did
and l don't regret it.
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Yes, it costs some sacrifice
but l haven't made any
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and l don't like to say it,
it's nothing nice,
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l have disposed of some burdens
along the way,
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which helped me to achieve
that little something in life.
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For me he is living proof
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that love is not everlasting and
that the energy goes elsewhere,
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it gets out of hand
and then we have nothing left.
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Only the burnt place remains.
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-What is it?
-That's my brother.
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l had him secretly preserved.
You are not allowed to do that.
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l left the rest of the bones in
so it looks like he was beheaded,
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well, he has lost his
head quite often.
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He lost it for good.
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This is Yorick, Hamlet's tutor.
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Oh, brother,
l can't be with you now.
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l want to remember you forever
as a beautiful boy with black hair.
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You're so much better than l am.
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Now that you are leaving
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you have changed so dreadfully
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l can't come to you. We will see
each other again some day.
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Jan Saudek's apartment ina concrete building in Zizkov
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-Hello.
-Where is everybody?
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They will be here soon.
Only the guys are here. l came early.
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-Here...
-A concrete building
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from the 80s, but at least
you have a new elevator.
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-Brand new. -lt's nice.
-New and incredibly slow.
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l can assure you that l can run
much faster than the elevator.
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-Up the stairs.
-l do it often and get no praise.
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-You have a botanical garden here.
-l'm a botanist. -lt's beautiful.
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Let me lock the door behind us
because somebody could...
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-lt's a bit like a wild forest here.
-. . .break in here.
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-And the parrots, where are they?
-The parrots are only a recording.
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There is one over there.
l see one.
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This is where you paint,
in the hallway?
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Yes, l paint outside
and live here.
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This is my mare. She was drowning
in a bathtub, this lady.
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She slipped, passed out
and went under the surface.
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-When did you start colorizing?
-ln 1 948.
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-ln 1 948 you first colorized a photo?
-Yes.
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But l didn't know the pictures
must be a sepia tone, brown.
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First you bleach out the picture
then stain it with sodium sulphide,
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which has been done
for 1 50 years.
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but then you must air out
the entire house for hours
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because great doses of hydrogen
sulphide are released
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which is supposedly unhealthy.
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But if l should care about
what's unhealthy...
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l would think it'd take much longer
to make the original picture.
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Okay, my sweethearts, let's break.
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G'bye, girls.
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Johana Saudkova -
Kaja Saudek's wife
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Jan's first wife went to school
with Kaja and was in love with him .
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Kaja had this habit of passing
all the ladies he met over to Jan.
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And Jan immediately moved in
with Marie and married her.
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Jan wanted to have a home base,
a family, yet he also wanted fun.
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On the other hand Kaja didn't want
to have a family, he wanted freedom .
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Samuel Saudek -Jan Saudek's oldest son
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My father is a mid-century man
and back then -
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perhaps for the lack of other kinds
of diversion - it was a gallant duty
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to satisfy every woman
who showed some interest.
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l n the context of the present day
everything is a bit different.
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Did you believe it could be
a stable and perfect marriage?
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l believed it for a couple of weeks
until l started to cheat on my wife.
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Of course when she eventually
found out after a couple of years,
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she punished me in the right way,
she banished me, impoverished me
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but she did the right thing
because any woman would do that
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and l should have learned from it
and not gotten into another liaison.
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But l did it again and l will keep
doing it until my time is up.
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Jan Saudek returns on the day
of his 72nd birthday
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to the place
of his first exhibition
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in the legendary
Theater on the Balustrade in 1 964.
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Please switch off
your mobile phones.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Jan Saudek.
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Hello. l've always dreamt
of you taking my picture.
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-Why haven't you come?
-l didn't know how to do it.
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-Are you from Prague?
-l am. Can we arrange something?
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lt's a deal. Are you free today?
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-l will always make time for you.
-That says it all. Wait a second.
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What do you drink?
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l don't really drink
but l will with you.
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Well, l drink too much. So you
will be sober and l will drink.
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That says it all.
One more question.
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Let's have one more
question before intermission.
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Hello, l am also
free this afternoon.
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-Me too!
-You too?
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Then let's have a foursome.
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Do you know how many legitimate
and illegitimate children you have?
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Four are legitimate and the rest,
you count them .
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Four are illegitimate. l like the
last one. l don't know if it's here.
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lt's in the back, sitting,
lying, sleeping, drinking.
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Lying and sleeping, l'll do the same
soon too. l'll drop on my ear.
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lf only one woman should remain
in the world who would it be?
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That's a very serious thing.
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l'd like it to be my last daughter
who served a term in jail.
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She's a good girl now, has
two kids, healthy, expecting a third.
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lt might be a girl.
So l would let her survive
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because she would bring another
child into a new world, hopefully a girl.
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l can make boys, but girls
are much harder to make.
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Mr. Saudek, do you still steal
your grandsons' girlfriends?
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What do you mean steal?
Nobody can have a woman.
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She is so free and intangible
that "to have a woman" is nonsense.
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l was allowed to look up to
her pedestal, that's better put,
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but l didn't have anything.
People ask me:
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"Listen, Jan, you're
such a womanizer" -
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l live in Zizkov - "How many
tramps have you had?" l count:
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"One, two, three, four,
about five hundred."
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Did you become a puppet
in the hands of ardent Miss Sara?
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l'm a toy in the hands of a widow.
Widow after me.
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l'm broke again,
no cars, no phone, nothing,
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but l have saved my bare life
and hairy bottom.
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Your photographs are morbid
and trashy, they're terrible,
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but at one time you made some nice
pictures that still get published.
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Do you play on people's libido for
commercial reasons or for depravity?
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l've been depraved from the start
but l don't sell the pictures.
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You should blame Saudek.com.
l don't even have the negatives.
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Now l make new things that will
never reach my youth's excellence,
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just like l will never run as fast
as l did when l was young.
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That's the exact classification.
They're trashy and depraved,
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but for some reason
people want bad things.
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l n some discussion l heard that
you promote ugliness and skepticism .
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-Oh, that makes me sad.
-You've pretty much answered it
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but l'm still interested in knowing
what you think about this opinion.
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A person can never be really
ugly unless he gives up.
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l truly believe that l portray people
with respect, admiration and humility.
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l would never release a photograph
that portrays us in our misery,
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in humiliation or
as truly perverted.
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Violence is... strange to me.
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After the appearance
in the theater Jan went silent
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and didn't communicate
for more than a month.
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Eventually he contacted
the director via a short letter
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and decided to continue shooting.
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Jan? Jan?
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-Yes, yes, yes.
-Jan, are you here? -Here.
228
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Jan Saudek's summerresidence in Mokrovraty
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-l'm here.
-Look at you.
230
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-After a month.
-Man! -Hello.
231
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How are you?
ls everything all right?
232
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Oh yeah, l forget fast.
At my age l can easily do that.
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You sure gave us a hard time.
234
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-All is forgotten. Come in.
-Thank you.
235
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l've thought about it a lot
whether my pictures
236
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praise or glorify
repulsiveness and ugliness
237
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but l don't see people that way.
l look at them with respect
238
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and l try to portray them that way.
And if somebody sees it differently
239
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then the ugliness is in his eye
240
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just like beauty is
in the eye of those who see it.
241
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lf the photographs that say
everything about me are not enough
242
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then l myself am uninteresting
and unimportant.
243
00:24:33,887 --> 00:24:37,357
What was the most difficult
period of your life?
244
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l felt the worst, to my surprise,
245
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during those seven years after 1 970
living in a cellar. That was bad.
246
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l even starved sometimes,
not fatally
247
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but often l had nothing but
bread and cheap marmalade.
248
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But l learned a lot from it.
lt was a time of poverty,
249
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which always stimulates a person
to get out of that situation
250
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which l have done.
251
00:25:17,287 --> 00:25:22,486
-You didn't make money from photos?
-No. Maybe others did.
252
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Abroad they sold bootleg copies of
my cards and posters, but not me.
253
00:25:27,447 --> 00:25:29,403
Not yet.
254
00:25:29,927 --> 00:25:37,038
You said that in life you had
to give up many things,
255
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many relationships in order to
achieve what you've achieved
256
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and to get where you are today.
257
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What was the most difficult?
258
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Most of all l missed the children
that were taken away from me
259
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as a punishment for my bad
behavior. That's nothing unusual.
260
00:25:57,367 --> 00:26:02,521
lt happened to me just like
it happens to other adulterers.
261
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l missed my children very much.
That scarred me badly
262
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and if l have any more children,
l'll be with them as long as l can
263
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so l won't have to cry for them.
264
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Matej Saudek -Jan Saudek's youngest son
265
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-ln a melodic counterpoint.
-Wow.
266
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-ln a melodic counterpoint.
-You are really good.
267
00:27:04,167 --> 00:27:06,203
-Don't make fun of me.
-No, really.
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My reluctance to appear in public
grows bigger and stronger.
269
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l'm more and more timid,
270
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l'm frightened by
the company of people,
271
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l'm worried about being
ridiculed and perhaps beaten too.
272
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Once l saw a movie
273
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where a lonely seagull
fed on a dump site.
274
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l was deeply touched by it.
275
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l consider myself
to be a lonely wanderer
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who shouldn't bother
people with his existence.
277
00:28:20,567 --> 00:28:26,483
l was wondering if you've ever tried
to open up to someone completely.
278
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To everybody.
279
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Yes, l feel that as l grow older
l am more and more honest.
280
00:28:35,887 --> 00:28:39,004
l try to tell the truth to everyone.
281
00:28:39,087 --> 00:28:42,682
To women that l love them
which is very honest.
282
00:28:42,767 --> 00:28:45,998
l've already done that
a few times this week. . .
283
00:28:46,087 --> 00:28:50,683
By saying the word so many times,
you downgrade it.
284
00:28:50,767 --> 00:28:54,043
. . .in that moment
l really love them ,
285
00:28:54,127 --> 00:28:57,085
in that moment l am eager,
impressed and captivated.
286
00:28:57,167 --> 00:29:00,125
Do you realize that sometimes
you are quite cruel?
287
00:29:00,207 --> 00:29:02,243
Yes.
288
00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:06,200
-You don't mind?
-l do.
289
00:29:06,287 --> 00:29:11,156
l asked where the line is,
or where a taboo begins. . .
290
00:29:11,247 --> 00:29:15,399
ls a line drawn at family?
291
00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:19,605
-Not at family but...
-With family members?
292
00:29:19,687 --> 00:29:25,205
l remember when l was very young
l hugged my brother.
293
00:29:25,287 --> 00:29:28,006
lt wouldn't be so bad.
294
00:29:28,087 --> 00:29:32,478
l'm trying to drive at your kids,
if that's where the line is.
295
00:29:32,567 --> 00:29:35,365
lf l fell in love with
one of my children
296
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and the child without being forced
297
00:29:38,327 --> 00:29:41,763
would be willing
to make love to me, l'd do it.
298
00:29:41,847 --> 00:29:43,997
ls that a good enough answer?
299
00:29:44,087 --> 00:29:46,681
-Sure.
-Consider it done.
300
00:29:51,647 --> 00:29:54,719
Now they won't be able
to capture the sound, huh?
301
00:29:54,927 --> 00:29:59,205
-Are you attracted to male beauty?
-Of course.
302
00:29:59,407 --> 00:30:02,001
Do you think
it's natural for artists?
303
00:30:02,207 --> 00:30:05,358
lt's natural for everyone
but we don't want to admit it.
304
00:30:06,527 --> 00:30:10,315
Have you ever felt when
you saw a beautiful male body
305
00:30:10,407 --> 00:30:13,319
that you wanted to touch
it just like a woman's body?
306
00:30:13,407 --> 00:30:16,683
Hold on, it's not a beautiful
male body that attracts me.
307
00:30:16,767 --> 00:30:19,725
The body doesn't need
to be beautiful,
308
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meaning muscular and slim.
309
00:30:22,327 --> 00:30:26,479
We are led by the smell
and in that sense
310
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l let myself be attracted to and
have been attracted to male beauty.
311
00:30:34,967 --> 00:30:37,879
-Have you been with a man?
-Of course.
312
00:30:38,367 --> 00:30:44,237
lt was sometime in the 70s or 80s,
"Pornographer" photography...
313
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l photographed
a soft porn with a self timer
314
00:30:52,087 --> 00:30:54,965
because it was the high
time for me to try it.
315
00:30:55,047 --> 00:30:59,518
And then, when l was seventy,
l photographed hard porn
316
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with a self timer too. lt's
explicit, if l could use that word,
317
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you can see everything.
318
00:31:06,887 --> 00:31:10,516
Arm in a sleeve,
cock in the nest.
319
00:31:13,487 --> 00:31:20,199
Do you remember the day when
Sara first showed up in your life?
320
00:31:22,527 --> 00:31:25,325
l remember it very well.
321
00:31:25,487 --> 00:31:30,720
Since the very first moment she
seemed to me incredibly beautiful.
322
00:31:30,887 --> 00:31:36,166
Even though the security force
was supposedly dispersed, l thought
323
00:31:36,327 --> 00:31:41,082
that only they could send such
a beautiful woman to spy on me.
324
00:31:41,647 --> 00:31:44,605
Sara Saudkova - Jan Saudek'sex-girlfriend and manager
325
00:31:44,687 --> 00:31:46,837
l came across some
of his photographs
326
00:31:46,927 --> 00:31:51,125
and later even pictures of him
and l fell in love with him.
327
00:31:51,207 --> 00:31:53,437
l thought
328
00:31:53,527 --> 00:31:59,045
that a person who makes such
amazing and ethereal pictures
329
00:31:59,127 --> 00:32:04,804
must be like that himself because
the artist is reflected in his work.
330
00:32:05,287 --> 00:32:08,643
So l longed to meet this guy,
331
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to see how he looks,
what he does. l wanted to know him .
332
00:32:13,047 --> 00:32:18,405
He was of course hiding.
He thought that under that name,
333
00:32:19,327 --> 00:32:23,479
my first name, was another girl to
whom he promised the earth and sky
334
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:26,445
and of course he had his reasons
to hide from her.
335
00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:29,644
He was scared that l was
the girl he was hiding from
336
00:32:29,727 --> 00:32:33,436
and as l was not giving up
he eventually gave up.
337
00:32:35,247 --> 00:32:39,126
He armed himself with a bunch of
girlfriends so he wouldn't be scared
338
00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:42,597
in case there would be some
confrontation. l walked in,
339
00:32:42,687 --> 00:32:46,919
he invited me over. He told
me where l'd find him.
340
00:32:47,007 --> 00:32:50,522
He expected someone else
and l walked in.
341
00:32:50,687 --> 00:32:55,715
l knew at once the fate that
would help me to the top had come
342
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:59,766
and if l ever went down
it would be a steep fall.
343
00:32:59,847 --> 00:33:03,601
The higher l'd be the deeper
l'd fall, so it didn't matter.
344
00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:10,317
Those several years, in fact more
than ten years, were striking.
345
00:33:10,407 --> 00:33:13,763
l had a partner who perfectly
co-operated with me.
346
00:33:13,927 --> 00:33:18,125
l didn't have the ambition to live
with Jan or even connect our lives.
347
00:33:18,207 --> 00:33:21,995
l didn't even think about it and
maybe that's why it ended as it did.
348
00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:24,760
l didn't go there
with the aim to captivate him .
349
00:33:24,847 --> 00:33:27,122
l just let nature take its course.
350
00:33:27,207 --> 00:33:30,961
She came to my place and there
were two ladies sitting on my bed.
351
00:33:31,047 --> 00:33:33,845
l think one was not fully dressed.
352
00:33:33,927 --> 00:33:38,876
From the start she had to know what
was up. She sacrificed a lot too
353
00:33:38,967 --> 00:33:42,846
because l don't know anything
about her real emotional life.
354
00:33:42,927 --> 00:33:49,560
But she knew she was going to walk
a winding road for a couple of years.
355
00:33:50,047 --> 00:33:53,881
She seemed so great to me that
l thought she should carry that name,
356
00:33:53,967 --> 00:33:56,561
so she changed both her names.
357
00:33:56,767 --> 00:33:58,678
She carries the name with honor.
358
00:33:58,767 --> 00:34:00,883
Johana Saudkova -Kaja Saudek's wife
359
00:34:00,967 --> 00:34:03,959
l am glad nobody is a disgrace
to the name Saudek.
360
00:34:04,287 --> 00:34:09,964
Her name was Sarka Smesna which
is a pretty common name in Moravia.
361
00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:12,641
lt's a very respectable
name there.
362
00:34:12,807 --> 00:34:14,957
Sara Saudkova - Jan Saudek'sex-girlfriend and manager
363
00:34:15,047 --> 00:34:18,676
Shortly after we met
he took me to Amsterdam
364
00:34:18,767 --> 00:34:20,758
where he had his agent back then.
365
00:34:20,847 --> 00:34:24,601
l cunningly came with
an old small suitcase.
366
00:34:24,687 --> 00:34:28,441
Maybe Jan still has it hidden
somewhere. He never opened it
367
00:34:28,527 --> 00:34:32,236
and the suitcase
stayed in his studio.
368
00:34:32,327 --> 00:34:36,240
lt was as if. . .
lt was as if he was doomed.
369
00:34:36,607 --> 00:34:42,204
She was very girllike, to me she was
very beautiful, young. She was 24
370
00:34:42,287 --> 00:34:45,438
and l showed her off there
371
00:34:45,527 --> 00:34:51,796
because Dutch girls are not
the most beautiful and she looked
372
00:34:52,367 --> 00:34:54,642
better than all of them.
373
00:34:57,407 --> 00:35:01,446
l n a dump, under the tub
roaches played rub-a-dub-dub.
374
00:35:01,527 --> 00:35:05,998
They pissed and pooped in a thimble
and lined the field, all nimble.
375
00:36:24,127 --> 00:36:26,561
After more than 30 years
Jan Saudek returns to the place
376
00:36:26,647 --> 00:36:29,639
where in the basement he spent
the seven hardest years of his life.
377
00:36:29,727 --> 00:36:33,163
What he couldn't see from his window
he eventually caught in his pictures
378
00:36:33,247 --> 00:36:35,158
that subsequently
made him world famous.
379
00:36:35,367 --> 00:36:38,120
-This is it, yes.
-1 42.
380
00:36:38,727 --> 00:36:41,241
l have to take a picture of it.
381
00:36:41,727 --> 00:36:44,195
-Let's go.
-So this is the place?
382
00:36:44,287 --> 00:36:46,084
Yes.
383
00:36:46,407 --> 00:36:51,197
-lt's not familiar. lt's all purple.
-What was here? Was it different?
384
00:36:52,447 --> 00:36:56,645
lt looked terrible. Here it is but
it was different from the pictures.
385
00:36:56,727 --> 00:37:00,561
But the window is original
l can see the remnants of paint.
386
00:37:00,647 --> 00:37:03,207
Upstairs lived a neighbor
whom l went after.
387
00:37:03,287 --> 00:37:06,643
-Where?
-ln that window. Maybe she's there.
388
00:37:08,647 --> 00:37:13,357
-Darling, you're here! -Hello.
-You haven't changed a bit.
389
00:37:13,447 --> 00:37:15,961
But l have, l've changed a lot.
390
00:37:16,047 --> 00:37:20,199
l haven't seen you for so long.
Does Ms. Kubcova still live here?
391
00:37:20,287 --> 00:37:23,962
She does, but they amputated her
leg, so she's in the hospital.
392
00:37:24,047 --> 00:37:26,607
Poor girl. l'm happy to see you.
393
00:37:26,687 --> 00:37:29,360
Supposedly someone lives there,
some tool maker
394
00:37:29,447 --> 00:37:32,598
but now it looks much better.
That was terrible, remember?
395
00:37:32,767 --> 00:37:37,602
-What year was it?
-1 970 - 1 977.
396
00:37:39,127 --> 00:37:43,484
-Don't drop it in there.
-Further, further. Here.
397
00:37:43,967 --> 00:37:47,277
-l see, this is how it looked...
-That's the very beginning.
398
00:38:35,687 --> 00:38:37,245
Here.
399
00:38:38,447 --> 00:38:41,484
-Let's see it.
-What remains?
400
00:38:42,927 --> 00:38:45,646
At least a distillery
chimney is still here.
401
00:38:45,727 --> 00:38:48,924
All that alcohol
that must have been made there.
402
00:38:51,927 --> 00:38:56,523
l can't be wrong. Yes, this is it.
lt's still used. People walk here.
403
00:38:56,607 --> 00:38:58,677
This is what you recognized it by?
404
00:38:58,767 --> 00:39:02,316
l just recognized it. l can't
be wrong. This is the path.
405
00:39:02,407 --> 00:39:06,116
This is how it looks 50 years
later. This is the path.
406
00:39:07,127 --> 00:39:10,722
Here it came out into the sky.
407
00:39:11,407 --> 00:39:13,921
Maybe it was a little lower.
408
00:39:15,447 --> 00:39:19,645
That's not very interesting, is it?
You expected some sensation.
409
00:39:19,727 --> 00:39:24,198
-Are you sure it wasn't elsewhere?
-Yes! lt was here! -Wow.
410
00:39:24,567 --> 00:39:29,197
l don't know if he was on my right,
l guess so... On the left. Like this.
411
00:39:29,287 --> 00:39:31,676
-Let me stand there.
-Here.
412
00:39:31,767 --> 00:39:34,964
Because this is it.
This is the horizon.
413
00:39:35,927 --> 00:39:37,804
This is the horizon.
414
00:39:38,287 --> 00:39:42,041
-No one would find it.
-l did. lt's beautiful.
415
00:39:42,967 --> 00:39:47,085
-Who is on the motorcycle?
-My brother Kaja.
416
00:39:47,407 --> 00:39:50,126
And the one
coming out of the river?
417
00:39:50,207 --> 00:39:54,439
-ls that you?
-Yes. lt's Self-exposure.
418
00:39:56,167 --> 00:39:58,681
How does it feel
to return to these places?
419
00:39:58,767 --> 00:40:02,396
This is a nice place.
Nothing has changed here at all.
420
00:40:03,847 --> 00:40:07,726
-Who is that little girl?
-The one expecting her third son.
421
00:40:07,927 --> 00:40:11,203
-Your daughter.
-The criminal, yes.
422
00:40:11,407 --> 00:40:13,079
The old criminal.
423
00:40:13,847 --> 00:40:16,042
l paint what l couldn't
see for years.
424
00:40:16,127 --> 00:40:18,880
Marie Saudkova -Jan Saudek's youngest daughter
425
00:40:19,007 --> 00:40:22,477
l couldn't see a tree
for all those years
426
00:40:22,567 --> 00:40:26,845
so now l have this great urge
to paint too many trees.
427
00:40:26,927 --> 00:40:31,398
Painting a sky, river or anything
that l've missed, what one needs
428
00:40:31,487 --> 00:40:36,515
because if you only keep looking at
a grey wall and a prison courtyard
429
00:40:36,607 --> 00:40:40,646
then you languish and want to see
a sky, want to walk on the grass,
430
00:40:40,727 --> 00:40:45,926
so l paint it over and over again
and when l get tired of it,
431
00:40:46,607 --> 00:40:50,202
l will move on
but for now it will do.
432
00:40:51,047 --> 00:40:55,120
Marie did 3 and a half years in jail
because of her addiction to heroin.
433
00:40:55,207 --> 00:40:58,279
Jan took it very hard
and never visited her in prison.
434
00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:02,246
lt took several years before they
found their way back to each other.
435
00:41:02,527 --> 00:41:05,200
-Do you think she loved Jan?
-Definitely.
436
00:41:05,407 --> 00:41:08,046
First she was captivated by him .
She was his find.
437
00:41:08,127 --> 00:41:10,482
She was a country girl
who lived in a dorm,
438
00:41:10,567 --> 00:41:13,001
Johana Saudkova -Kaja Saudek's wife
439
00:41:13,087 --> 00:41:15,999
suddenly she came to
a completely new environment.
440
00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:20,197
He was courting her.
He always liked redheads
441
00:41:20,287 --> 00:41:23,120
so he was her great admirer.
442
00:41:23,327 --> 00:41:31,405
He has some character defects and
has done a couple of boastful deeds
443
00:41:32,007 --> 00:41:36,364
for which you can forgive him,
even for all the bad that's in him .
444
00:41:36,447 --> 00:41:40,963
He has great qualities for which
you can admire him and love him .
445
00:41:41,047 --> 00:41:45,006
At the same time he reveals
446
00:41:45,607 --> 00:41:50,681
a great reservoir of bad qualities
for which you could hate him
447
00:41:50,767 --> 00:41:55,636
and if you mix it all together
you get an impressive being.
448
00:41:56,127 --> 00:42:01,724
My husband told me that when
Sara and Jan were still a couple
449
00:42:01,807 --> 00:42:05,561
Kaja told me:
"Jan doesn't sleep with her."
450
00:42:05,647 --> 00:42:11,199
l said: "Come on, how could they
be so touchy grabby like that then."
451
00:42:11,287 --> 00:42:15,280
We used to go for walks and Kaja'd
say: "They don't sleep together!"
452
00:42:15,807 --> 00:42:20,722
l though:
"Kaja is speculating again."
453
00:42:20,807 --> 00:42:27,565
l think it was the reason why Jan
didn't have a love life with her,
454
00:42:27,647 --> 00:42:30,844
he had her,
he did it with other women...
455
00:42:31,407 --> 00:42:34,444
He has a lot of feminine qualities,
and thank God for it.
456
00:42:34,527 --> 00:42:37,246
lf it wasn't for that
he wouldn't be able to get
457
00:42:37,327 --> 00:42:40,637
into a woman's soul and under
her skirt as well as he does.
458
00:42:40,887 --> 00:42:45,244
Sara tolerated it, she smiled
about it but the truth is...
459
00:42:45,327 --> 00:42:48,842
She was a young woman
who wanted to have a future.
460
00:42:48,927 --> 00:42:51,441
She wanted to keep being
Saudkova...
461
00:42:51,687 --> 00:42:54,759
Have you ever thought about
having children together?
462
00:42:54,847 --> 00:42:55,916
No.
463
00:42:56,007 --> 00:42:59,363
Do you think he ever thought
about it? That he'd want that?
464
00:42:59,447 --> 00:43:03,326
We never talked about it,
not that we would avoid it,
465
00:43:03,407 --> 00:43:08,640
we just never considered it and
years later Jan explained to me
466
00:43:10,207 --> 00:43:14,723
that we loved each other, that
we were so happy by ourselves
467
00:43:14,807 --> 00:43:18,038
that we didn't need a child.
And that's true.
468
00:43:18,327 --> 00:43:24,800
She knew if she had another man,
and l am pretty sure about it,
469
00:43:24,887 --> 00:43:30,678
and he wasn't his own blood,
Jan would ruthlessly throw her out.
470
00:43:30,767 --> 00:43:32,917
He'd be merciless.
471
00:43:33,167 --> 00:43:37,160
When did you first meet Samuel?
472
00:43:37,447 --> 00:43:41,759
-Do you remember?
-lt was the same year l met Jan
473
00:43:42,127 --> 00:43:45,802
but back then Samuel was
something like my stepson.
474
00:43:45,887 --> 00:43:49,516
l've known him as long as Jan
but in a different way.
475
00:43:49,607 --> 00:43:53,805
Did you like him from the start
or was it something else?
476
00:43:53,927 --> 00:43:57,283
Did you think
that you and he could be. . .
477
00:43:57,367 --> 00:44:00,439
Back then he was still married
to lda, Samuel...
478
00:44:00,527 --> 00:44:02,722
l didn't think anything
but l liked him .
479
00:44:02,807 --> 00:44:04,923
Samuel Saudek -Jan Saudek's oldest son
480
00:44:05,007 --> 00:44:07,043
When Sara showed
some interest,
481
00:44:07,127 --> 00:44:10,676
l was surprised, l mean some basic
instincts just don't go away.
482
00:44:11,127 --> 00:44:13,846
Suddenly l realized
that she was a nice girl.
483
00:44:13,927 --> 00:44:18,079
What otherwise wouldn't
be even possible
484
00:44:18,167 --> 00:44:21,398
l suddenly saw crystal clear.
485
00:44:21,727 --> 00:44:27,757
Do you recall the day you told him
you were expecting his son's child?
486
00:44:27,847 --> 00:44:34,559
Yes. l have a bad memory but
some details l recall very well.
487
00:44:34,767 --> 00:44:36,120
How did he react?
488
00:44:36,207 --> 00:44:39,802
That evening he was resting
in his studio,
489
00:44:39,887 --> 00:44:44,563
some girl or lady
had just left after a party.
490
00:44:44,647 --> 00:44:50,040
l came to him and told him
that l had news for him.
491
00:44:50,127 --> 00:44:52,595
l told him l was expecting a child.
492
00:44:52,687 --> 00:44:56,760
He was delighted,
and half asleep.
493
00:44:56,847 --> 00:45:00,123
He had this nice smile
and said: "A child will eat us all."
494
00:45:00,207 --> 00:45:01,276
l remember that.
495
00:45:23,127 --> 00:45:30,442
Now that you're in a feather bed
496
00:45:33,287 --> 00:45:38,998
A truce between us can't be had
497
00:45:43,367 --> 00:45:50,239
Another of history's blunders
498
00:45:53,327 --> 00:45:59,323
That all will believe with wonder...
499
00:46:22,367 --> 00:46:24,198
Good, huh?
500
00:46:27,287 --> 00:46:30,802
Photographing Dominika -
a somewhat truthful view - camera A
501
00:46:31,247 --> 00:46:38,323
So far she is one minute late.
Well, l haven't met the girl yet
502
00:46:38,527 --> 00:46:45,842
but being late is a terrorism
which l can't tolerate.
503
00:46:45,927 --> 00:46:49,920
So in four minutes l will
write to her that l waited for 1 5
504
00:46:50,007 --> 00:46:54,364
and will take a chance
and go to the park to see
505
00:46:54,447 --> 00:46:58,725
if the lady is less than
1 3 minutes late
506
00:46:58,807 --> 00:47:04,962
but then l think l will not
invite her back to pose for me.
507
00:47:08,367 --> 00:47:12,963
Two minutes, we'll see.
l believe she'll come
508
00:47:13,047 --> 00:47:15,402
because it's not for free.
509
00:47:17,887 --> 00:47:20,959
-Hello.
-Oh my god, you're still a child.
510
00:47:21,047 --> 00:47:23,117
Are you at least 1 5?
511
00:47:23,207 --> 00:47:26,199
l am older than 2 1 . Hello.
l'm Dominika, nice to meet you.
512
00:47:26,287 --> 00:47:29,962
-l'm Soudek, come on in.
-Soudek?
513
00:47:30,047 --> 00:47:34,484
Lubomir Soudek, take a seat.
l will pour you a true blue vintage.
514
00:47:34,567 --> 00:47:36,762
-Do you have a ros�?
-l do.
515
00:47:36,847 --> 00:47:40,044
-Then l would like some...
-l'm sure you're looking rosy.
516
00:47:40,127 --> 00:47:43,563
-Take a seat, l'll bring the wine.
-Thank you.
517
00:47:43,647 --> 00:47:45,717
-Just curl up.
-l'll wait, thank you.
518
00:47:45,807 --> 00:47:51,245
Soon you will be napping. Underage
persons can't be served alcohol.
519
00:47:51,327 --> 00:47:55,366
-l said l turned 21 already.
-l'm sorry for you, you are...
520
00:47:55,447 --> 00:47:57,802
-Old, l know...
-You are not so young.
521
00:47:57,887 --> 00:48:01,402
-Sit and l'll tell you something...
-Will you have a drink with me?
522
00:48:01,487 --> 00:48:05,275
l'll be glad to but l usually drink
only if it might lead to something.
523
00:48:05,367 --> 00:48:08,962
Have you ever stood in front
of the camera undressed?
524
00:48:09,047 --> 00:48:11,959
-Unfortunately not or fortunately?
-l always do.
525
00:48:12,047 --> 00:48:16,962
-We'll be chaste about it.
-l prepared for it a little.
526
00:48:34,847 --> 00:48:38,123
How are we going to photograph it
when we're alone?
527
00:48:38,207 --> 00:48:41,597
Good question. The camera has
something called a self timer
528
00:48:41,687 --> 00:48:46,886
and l know why they put it there
a hundred years ago.
529
00:48:46,967 --> 00:48:50,960
So we will use it and nobody
will hear or see anything.
530
00:48:51,047 --> 00:48:52,958
Okay.
531
00:48:55,167 --> 00:48:56,759
This is it.
532
00:49:03,167 --> 00:49:04,725
Great.
533
00:49:12,567 --> 00:49:15,081
Photographing Dominika -
a somewhat truthful view - camera B
534
00:49:15,167 --> 00:49:18,477
-Hi, l'm Dominika, nice to see you.
-Beautiful name, beautiful face.
535
00:49:18,567 --> 00:49:21,798
-Let me reveal something to you. . .
-Will you have a drink with me?
536
00:49:21,887 --> 00:49:24,117
l'll be glad to but l usually drink
only if it might lead to something.
537
00:49:24,207 --> 00:49:27,404
l'll have a smoke,
three puffs are enough.
538
00:49:27,487 --> 00:49:30,126
Wait, l can't fit this in my mouth.
539
00:49:31,767 --> 00:49:34,679
-Take a rest. -This is nice.
-We have to prepare it.
540
00:49:34,767 --> 00:49:38,840
-l'm probably the youngest here.
-Oh yes. -l'm youngest everywhere.
541
00:49:39,607 --> 00:49:42,485
-Careful, so they don't trip.
-She is great, Bob!
542
00:49:42,567 --> 00:49:49,325
l was born in 1 986,
l'm a tiger in the Chinese horoscope.
543
00:49:49,687 --> 00:49:54,078
-And l am a boar. Hippo...
-A tiger and a boar. l will do you.
544
00:49:54,167 --> 00:49:57,796
-Yes, do me.
-That's a beautiful wall. . .
545
00:49:58,167 --> 00:50:02,001
-Bob, take it from the side.
-Beautiful.
546
00:50:02,607 --> 00:50:05,644
Youth and beauty. Babe!
547
00:50:05,727 --> 00:50:10,801
Yes? Excuse me, camera!
1 , 2, 3, go!
548
00:50:11,687 --> 00:50:14,759
-Wouldn't it be better from . . .
-lt will be a beautiful picture.
549
00:50:14,847 --> 00:50:17,964
l am so. . . very...
550
00:50:19,007 --> 00:50:21,760
l love you!
551
00:50:21,927 --> 00:50:26,125
-That makes two of you.
-l am really shy. -lt won't show.
552
00:50:29,687 --> 00:50:32,281
-lt won't show.
-Wait!
553
00:50:32,367 --> 00:50:35,325
Only the fanny will be there.
That makes two of you.
554
00:50:37,127 --> 00:50:39,846
-And then l mind that. . .
-Hold on.
555
00:50:41,407 --> 00:50:45,366
What's your sign in our horoscope?
l'll tell you, Sagittarius.
556
00:50:45,447 --> 00:50:48,803
-Cancer, no, Sagittarius the archer.
-How arch.
557
00:50:48,887 --> 00:50:50,764
-l'll try, and the young lady?
-You're Sagittarius.
558
00:50:50,847 --> 00:50:53,486
-Right? -Yes.
-Wait...
559
00:50:53,567 --> 00:50:55,922
-l'm a bad archer.
-Are you really an archer?
560
00:50:56,007 --> 00:50:58,965
-No. What then?
-l'm Aries.
561
00:50:59,047 --> 00:51:02,960
-No, l am Taurus.
-Taurus? -Born in May.
562
00:51:03,887 --> 00:51:06,765
-So let's get ready.
-Should l take my clothes off too?
563
00:51:06,847 --> 00:51:09,759
-We'll have to. Everybody will leave.
-Not me. Wait.
564
00:51:09,847 --> 00:51:13,442
-l'll refocus. . .
-Everybody leave.
565
00:51:14,007 --> 00:51:18,239
-Only the crew will stay.
-lf they're closer, then refocus.
566
00:51:18,567 --> 00:51:21,161
Cool, l got them there.
567
00:51:22,087 --> 00:51:25,079
-Can l bring the kid?
-You can.
568
00:51:25,167 --> 00:51:29,922
-Shall we rehearse it first or...
-Let's shoot it right away.
569
00:51:30,007 --> 00:51:33,443
l will leave and will call you.
570
00:51:34,847 --> 00:51:38,157
-Wait a minute.
-lt's a boy's body.
571
00:51:39,207 --> 00:51:42,404
Turn around, are you a girl at all?
Yeah.
572
00:51:45,207 --> 00:51:48,040
-Are we in the center?
-Great.
573
00:51:48,127 --> 00:51:50,595
Click, click, click. . .
574
00:51:51,967 --> 00:51:54,845
-Great. Good.
-You are superb.
575
00:51:57,447 --> 00:51:58,766
Perfect, thank you.
576
00:51:58,847 --> 00:52:03,477
Your boyfriend is the luckiest
man in the world.
577
00:52:04,207 --> 00:52:06,675
-He is a lucky man.
-But l hope that you will...
578
00:52:06,767 --> 00:52:09,235
l hope you will invite me
to the opening.
579
00:52:09,327 --> 00:52:11,841
-Why not?
-That's a beautiful scene. Shoot it.
580
00:52:11,927 --> 00:52:14,361
-Talk with each other.
-l hope you'll invite me too.
581
00:52:14,447 --> 00:52:18,759
-You are already invited.
-l want it in writing.
582
00:52:20,167 --> 00:52:22,965
But l can't write,
only the director here can write.
583
00:52:23,047 --> 00:52:26,005
Where is the director?
584
00:52:27,127 --> 00:52:29,960
Wait, l can't fit this in my mouth.
585
00:52:31,367 --> 00:52:33,358
l'm probably the youngest here.
586
00:53:06,327 --> 00:53:10,718
Now l have cramps
in the other leg. lt's gone.
587
00:53:13,047 --> 00:53:17,404
Those two years when his wife was
alive, Sara stayed below the radar.
588
00:53:17,487 --> 00:53:21,082
But the minute Marie died and Sara
started to be open about being
589
00:53:21,167 --> 00:53:27,606
Jan's partner, that moment
the split between Jan and Kaja began.
590
00:53:27,687 --> 00:53:30,804
And in my opinion
591
00:53:30,887 --> 00:53:33,560
because they behaved as twins
592
00:53:33,647 --> 00:53:36,366
and everyone thought
about them that way.
593
00:53:36,447 --> 00:53:41,316
Suddenly they were fifty years old
and Sara wanted to be number one,
594
00:53:41,407 --> 00:53:44,683
maybe Jan wanted that too
595
00:53:44,767 --> 00:53:49,045
and the only way to do it
was to eliminate Kaja.
596
00:53:49,247 --> 00:53:54,275
He touched the right chord
inside of me
597
00:53:54,767 --> 00:53:58,077
in order to be able to follow
what l was convinced of.
598
00:53:58,167 --> 00:54:06,040
l live the way l want and
won't let be forced into anything.
599
00:54:06,527 --> 00:54:12,124
She has Jan's training and
sees everything through his eyes.
600
00:54:12,207 --> 00:54:15,244
She really likes that.
On the other hand
601
00:54:15,327 --> 00:54:18,683
when they lived together for those
two years while he was still married,
602
00:54:18,767 --> 00:54:25,843
the man confides a lot of things to
his new partner, tells her his dislikes.
603
00:54:26,487 --> 00:54:29,559
And the woman, if she is smart,
and Sara is smart,
604
00:54:29,647 --> 00:54:32,366
won't make those blunders
605
00:54:32,447 --> 00:54:37,237
and won't nag him about things
the previous women did.
606
00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:43,637
She very much established something
new for Jan and he liked that.
607
00:54:43,727 --> 00:54:46,480
l didn't come there
to put things in order
608
00:54:46,567 --> 00:54:50,719
but when l see disorder, my
common sense tells me to clean up
609
00:54:50,807 --> 00:54:53,275
because otherwise
you can't find anything.
610
00:54:53,367 --> 00:54:56,200
-Was it all in chaos?
-Jan evidently lived in chaos.
611
00:54:56,287 --> 00:55:01,486
People around him kept asking him
for things and he didn't protest.
612
00:55:02,007 --> 00:55:06,364
Suddenly, after a couple of years
she totally changed.
613
00:55:06,447 --> 00:55:09,200
They offered her the erotic show
614
00:55:09,287 --> 00:55:12,484
and she wasn't scared
of people anymore.
615
00:55:12,567 --> 00:55:18,437
But most of all she is incredibly
strong-willed and very ambitious.
616
00:55:18,847 --> 00:55:24,638
He is a person who handles
a camera very well
617
00:55:24,727 --> 00:55:33,396
but he's not a like a businessman
who negotiates and calculates.
618
00:55:34,687 --> 00:55:40,125
He plays the ritual as if it's
trivial, but it's a tough business.
619
00:55:40,607 --> 00:55:44,077
No way, it wouldn't suit him
and he would feel lost in it.
620
00:55:44,407 --> 00:55:47,763
l n 1 989 Jan Saudek was already
renowned all over the world,
621
00:55:47,847 --> 00:55:50,486
yet in his country he was
pretty much unknown.
622
00:55:50,567 --> 00:55:53,445
The Velvet Revolution
brought him absolute fame
623
00:55:53,527 --> 00:55:56,200
but also the absolute loss
of artistic privacy!
624
00:55:56,767 --> 00:56:01,636
The so called revolution in fact
wasn't, only the neck ties changed
625
00:56:01,727 --> 00:56:04,878
and the new people were
a bit younger and more handsome
626
00:56:04,967 --> 00:56:08,880
but what it really gave me
627
00:56:08,967 --> 00:56:14,883
was the gradual loss
of omnipresent fear
628
00:56:14,967 --> 00:56:20,200
because l was scared that
the security forces would come again
629
00:56:20,287 --> 00:56:25,281
and take away all my negatives
because l always thought
630
00:56:25,367 --> 00:56:31,397
that the agents were interested
in the pornography that l make.
631
00:56:31,487 --> 00:56:35,480
But it was only individuals who were
attracted and wanted to own it.
632
00:56:35,567 --> 00:56:39,401
That is why they searched people
who returned from abroad.
633
00:56:39,487 --> 00:56:43,799
And 1 989 definitely enabled me
634
00:56:43,887 --> 00:56:50,406
to photograph almost everything
l was afraid to do until then.
635
00:56:50,767 --> 00:56:55,124
So l had total freedom to
photograph especially love scenes.
636
00:56:55,327 --> 00:57:01,516
After 1 989 you made
a lot of quite sad
637
00:57:01,607 --> 00:57:08,365
or even angry pictures.
Some saw them as less full of life
638
00:57:08,447 --> 00:57:12,281
than those from earlier periods
What happened?
639
00:57:12,367 --> 00:57:17,157
Youthful energy can't be
in them , that would be lying.
640
00:57:17,247 --> 00:57:22,162
l have to see the world through
the eyes of an aging man.
641
00:57:23,007 --> 00:57:29,560
l can't pretend l'm 25, though
my physical activity is similar.
642
00:57:29,727 --> 00:57:39,159
l n photography - l could
portray children and joyful youth,
643
00:57:39,247 --> 00:57:43,843
motherhood or fatherhood
but l don't believe in it much.
644
00:57:43,927 --> 00:57:50,685
l n fact l remain underground,
l live a pretty modest life,
645
00:57:50,887 --> 00:57:56,678
you know how and
self-indulgently enjoy life.
646
00:57:57,127 --> 00:58:01,803
The last years and months
l consider the best of my life.
647
00:58:09,247 --> 00:58:11,477
For the motherland.
648
00:58:23,327 --> 00:58:29,357
This picture always awed me and
it was hard to find my way to it.
649
00:58:30,407 --> 00:58:33,479
At first l was scared of it.
650
00:58:33,847 --> 00:58:38,602
Even for me it was difficult
to take, it took me a year
651
00:58:38,967 --> 00:58:43,597
before l lost my fear and before
the girl lost her natural shyness.
652
00:58:43,887 --> 00:58:46,117
ls there a story to it?
653
00:58:46,847 --> 00:58:51,398
As an eight-month-old,
half of her body burned in fire.
654
00:58:51,487 --> 00:58:55,082
She had to go through
enormous pain.
655
00:58:55,167 --> 00:58:59,558
But l wanted to show
as an answer to Joel-Peter Witkin
656
00:58:59,647 --> 00:59:05,244
that in my view people are beautiful
and l believe she is attractive.
657
00:59:05,847 --> 00:59:10,125
She even found herself attractive.
658
00:59:10,487 --> 00:59:13,797
Then she left and l've never
heard from her again.
659
01:00:08,407 --> 01:00:10,284
No strength.
660
01:00:10,367 --> 01:00:13,723
lt's not what it used to be
sixty years ago.
661
01:00:15,567 --> 01:00:17,922
Sara will destroy us all.
662
01:00:18,087 --> 01:00:20,681
Believe me,
Sara will destroy us all.
663
01:00:20,767 --> 01:00:23,156
Everyone is the mother's son.
664
01:00:24,087 --> 01:00:26,317
They even make
plastic corks now.
665
01:00:26,407 --> 01:00:29,956
But Sara Saudkova
is a photographer too.
666
01:00:31,247 --> 01:00:34,444
ls she torturing the family
around her with it?
667
01:00:34,527 --> 01:00:37,758
-Just like Jan "tortures" them.
-Of course l torture them .
668
01:00:37,847 --> 01:00:41,726
l am a nasty bitch who blackmails
people and tries to get their soul.
669
01:00:41,807 --> 01:00:46,927
Because l need to get it out
of them into the photographs
670
01:00:47,007 --> 01:00:51,159
in an instant form.
l suck them dry, l'm a vampire,
671
01:00:51,247 --> 01:00:53,920
but l do it in an elegant way
with a smile.
672
01:00:54,007 --> 01:00:57,204
-What about Samuel?
-Not with the smile of an idiot.
673
01:00:57,287 --> 01:01:01,439
With the smile of a shrew.
l am a shrew who smiles
674
01:01:01,527 --> 01:01:03,757
and coldly aims and shoots.
675
01:01:05,207 --> 01:01:09,485
-The Order of the Knight.
-l've always wanted to see it.
676
01:01:09,567 --> 01:01:12,161
l will put it on my bare chest.
677
01:01:12,487 --> 01:01:16,685
-Don't.
-RED HOT photographed me with it.
678
01:01:16,767 --> 01:01:18,678
lt will hurt a lot.
679
01:01:20,287 --> 01:01:22,596
Can l touch it?
680
01:01:22,687 --> 01:01:28,683
lt was given to me by Mayor Chirac,
he's president now but not for long.
681
01:01:30,567 --> 01:01:33,161
See how l can keep order.
682
01:01:35,487 --> 01:01:37,125
Thank you.
683
01:01:37,607 --> 01:01:40,997
This is all l can show you.
What can you show me?
684
01:01:41,087 --> 01:01:42,281
Nothing, really.
685
01:01:43,167 --> 01:01:45,920
l can't even imagine
that it would be different
686
01:01:46,007 --> 01:01:49,044
because if l would
have a child with Jan
687
01:01:49,127 --> 01:01:52,324
l would deprive him of myself.
688
01:01:53,007 --> 01:01:56,283
l would bind him to something
he didn't want.
689
01:01:56,367 --> 01:02:01,566
He doesn't like commitments,
he takes everything too seriously.
690
01:02:01,647 --> 01:02:06,562
l'd either devote myself to the kid
and he'd hate being ignored by me.
691
01:02:06,647 --> 01:02:11,277
He is still a little boy.
There's a little kid in Jan.
692
01:02:11,487 --> 01:02:14,604
He is an ideal man. A man
who remains a child is great.
693
01:02:14,687 --> 01:02:18,236
Then you need another man
for the household.
694
01:02:18,607 --> 01:02:25,365
Or l would make him commit
to taking care of the child.
695
01:02:25,447 --> 01:02:28,405
l'm sure he loves
children very much
696
01:02:28,487 --> 01:02:33,925
but it would be a sin to put
such a burden on him, so Samuel...
697
01:02:34,127 --> 01:02:38,757
Not that l picked him
as some kind of stud
698
01:02:38,847 --> 01:02:43,477
to father my children.
lt was totally spontaneous.
699
01:02:44,007 --> 01:02:49,035
Women are cold-blooded.
They're close to being calculating
700
01:02:49,127 --> 01:02:54,201
and they're certainly stronger than
men, see further into the future
701
01:02:54,287 --> 01:03:00,806
and their primary role is to take
care of offspring which Sara does.
702
01:03:00,967 --> 01:03:04,880
And if on the way a couple of heads
roll and some old men fall apart
703
01:03:04,967 --> 01:03:07,800
and return to their prefab house,
it doesn't matter.
704
01:03:08,207 --> 01:03:11,199
l've always tried to build up
Jan's self-confidence
705
01:03:11,287 --> 01:03:14,916
so he wouldn't doubt himself
because he doesn't need to
706
01:03:15,007 --> 01:03:19,558
but he has those doubts in him
and is not sure of himself.
707
01:03:19,647 --> 01:03:24,163
Therefore he acts
so dashing and cool
708
01:03:24,247 --> 01:03:27,284
but inside he has a very
vulnerable and sensitive soul.
709
01:03:27,367 --> 01:03:33,124
God knows if all that women hunting
is really him or just a pose.
710
01:03:33,327 --> 01:03:38,355
He doesn't open his letters because
he's scared of the flood of emotions
711
01:03:38,447 --> 01:03:45,319
that would come out at him,
all those tears, love and hate,
712
01:03:45,407 --> 01:03:50,322
that's part of love and he is
scared of it, scared of real love
713
01:03:51,127 --> 01:03:53,083
and responsibility and pain.
714
01:03:53,727 --> 01:03:58,084
l think she was born to succeed
and nothing wins like success.
715
01:03:58,327 --> 01:04:03,037
But she traveled a long way
in fifteen or sixteen years.
716
01:04:03,127 --> 01:04:07,120
A timid girl
who lacked self-confidence -
717
01:04:07,207 --> 01:04:14,079
a twenty-four-year old - became
an overconfident mother of many
718
01:04:14,167 --> 01:04:19,799
and in my opinion also a pretty
good professional photographer.
719
01:04:19,967 --> 01:04:24,404
l wish her luck with all my heart
but our ways parted.
720
01:04:24,487 --> 01:04:29,561
For a while they ran parallel
and then they started growing apart
721
01:04:30,567 --> 01:04:33,684
and eventually we will go
in totally different directions.
722
01:04:34,087 --> 01:04:37,523
l can imagine him
deeply loving a dog,
723
01:04:38,607 --> 01:04:40,643
a motherland.
724
01:04:44,847 --> 01:04:49,762
He loved his father because
he talks about him every day,
725
01:04:51,247 --> 01:04:56,241
maybe some of his children
but distantly rather than truly.
726
01:04:56,327 --> 01:04:58,522
He is a very peculiar person.
727
01:04:58,807 --> 01:05:01,924
Sara and Jan haven't officially
seen each other for over a year,
728
01:05:02,007 --> 01:05:05,158
their contact is limited to
letters, faxes and text messages.
729
01:05:05,247 --> 01:05:07,238
However, she is still
his only manager
730
01:05:07,327 --> 01:05:10,160
and owner of the rights
to sell Jan's photographs.
731
01:05:10,567 --> 01:05:12,717
Sara Saudkova's opening
732
01:05:14,327 --> 01:05:16,761
lt's not mine...
733
01:05:17,167 --> 01:05:19,727
lt's not, huh, whose is it then?
734
01:05:20,167 --> 01:05:23,523
-Who said it?
-The word got around.
735
01:05:23,607 --> 01:05:25,563
To you personally?
736
01:05:26,167 --> 01:05:29,842
-He is ugly and has a cone head.
-You're kidding.
737
01:05:29,927 --> 01:05:32,805
You talk with
all kinds of strangers.
738
01:05:35,127 --> 01:05:37,880
With Sara, Sara is a grandmother.
739
01:05:37,967 --> 01:05:41,118
-He is my brother-in-law, no?
-Yeah, l am her brother-in-law.
740
01:05:41,207 --> 01:05:42,845
No, he is an uncle.
741
01:05:44,887 --> 01:05:48,357
-Open your eyes.
-He doesn't want to.
742
01:06:06,927 --> 01:06:09,487
Madam , let's start.
743
01:06:09,567 --> 01:06:13,560
Sincerely, heartily
and very cheerfully
744
01:06:13,647 --> 01:06:18,357
l welcome you to the opening
of the Form of Love exhibition.
745
01:07:35,327 --> 01:07:39,286
"Let me give you one more
bit of advice: Do not marry.
746
01:07:39,367 --> 01:07:43,280
Find yourself a handsome man
and love each other,
747
01:07:43,367 --> 01:07:47,326
but believe me,
marriage is not for you. . ."
748
01:09:01,487 --> 01:09:06,720
Hello, l brought back the puppet.
We won't need it anymore.
749
01:09:08,047 --> 01:09:12,040
-l guess l expected someone else.
-Take care. -You too, bye.
750
01:09:20,247 --> 01:09:23,956
Tell me, when did Jan
laugh the most?
751
01:09:24,807 --> 01:09:30,086
He laughed most when he found out
his bank accounts were almost empty.
752
01:09:30,527 --> 01:09:32,916
Pavlina Hodkova -Jan Saudek's girlfriend
753
01:09:33,007 --> 01:09:36,761
-When did that happen?
-About a year and a half ago.
754
01:09:36,847 --> 01:09:38,758
What happened?
755
01:09:39,367 --> 01:09:44,839
The money disappeared.
Jan says who took the money. . .
756
01:09:45,047 --> 01:09:48,198
-Where did it go?
-Nobody knows.
757
01:09:48,407 --> 01:09:52,958
l can't tell where it went
because it's not my money
758
01:09:53,047 --> 01:09:55,402
and l can't blame anyone.
759
01:10:13,327 --> 01:10:18,401
l'm looking at these unpretentious
and unskillful pictures.
760
01:10:19,687 --> 01:10:22,440
l forgot how l made them
761
01:10:22,607 --> 01:10:29,001
but one thing l remember clearly.
l didn't make them for money.
762
01:10:29,167 --> 01:10:34,719
Not even that unfortunate window,
l didn't do that for money either
763
01:10:34,807 --> 01:10:39,483
because l didn't anticipate at all
that there could be money in it.
764
01:10:40,207 --> 01:10:45,918
But it came and now it's gone again.
What comes around, goes around.
765
01:10:46,127 --> 01:10:48,277
But it was there once,
766
01:10:48,367 --> 01:10:52,645
so l can say with satisfaction
that for some time,
767
01:10:53,767 --> 01:10:57,999
not for long, l was a rich man.
768
01:11:09,967 --> 01:11:13,846
lt seems trivial to me
to talk about work.
769
01:11:13,927 --> 01:11:18,284
When you work, you might see the
mark you made as late as one year,
770
01:11:18,367 --> 01:11:22,997
so managing the Saudek.com
business, now that you are asking,
771
01:11:23,647 --> 01:11:25,683
means above all to believe in it.
772
01:11:30,847 --> 01:11:35,045
l'm not going to use words
like love and happiness too often
773
01:11:35,127 --> 01:11:41,282
because they become devalued
but we were really compatible
774
01:11:41,367 --> 01:11:45,918
because l have a lot of male
traits and Jan has female traits
775
01:11:46,007 --> 01:11:48,760
so it fit like Ying and Yang.
776
01:11:54,007 --> 01:11:57,238
You don't talk about happiness.
lf you keep proclaiming it
777
01:11:57,327 --> 01:12:00,558
it's as if you took out
a white flag and called out 'help,
778
01:12:00,647 --> 01:12:02,683
there is something
wrong with me.'
779
01:12:04,327 --> 01:12:10,277
l have to get out of that poverty
and l feel like a twenty-year-old
780
01:12:10,367 --> 01:12:17,239
who wants to buy some diapers
for his newborn.
781
01:12:17,327 --> 01:12:19,795
What are you painting?
lt's a cross, clock...
782
01:12:19,887 --> 01:12:22,560
To be honest, it's bullshit
783
01:12:22,647 --> 01:12:26,162
but it always sold so
it will sell this time too.
784
01:12:26,767 --> 01:12:28,598
When did you start painting?
785
01:12:28,687 --> 01:12:33,841
More seriously
when l was twenty seven.
786
01:12:34,007 --> 01:12:37,841
lf you had a choice, would you
be a photographer or a painter?
787
01:12:37,927 --> 01:12:42,921
Painter of course but l think
l don't have the right talent.
788
01:12:43,887 --> 01:12:47,163
How would you assess
your pictures?
789
01:12:47,767 --> 01:12:50,759
Artless creation,
790
01:12:52,087 --> 01:12:58,242
as one critic said, "worthless
figments of an old man."
791
01:12:58,327 --> 01:13:02,957
The first two things fit
but l don't buy the old man.
792
01:13:03,647 --> 01:13:07,526
-Did your brother comment on them?
-He didn't like them .
793
01:13:08,367 --> 01:13:12,485
-ln fact nobody likes them.
-Yet you keep painting?
794
01:13:13,247 --> 01:13:19,595
l paint because l can make
a living doing it.
795
01:13:19,687 --> 01:13:21,325
l sell those pictures.
796
01:13:21,407 --> 01:13:24,922
Why are people willing to spend
so much money on your pictures?
797
01:13:25,007 --> 01:13:31,685
They spend millions for pictures
so why not spend 50, 60 thousand?
798
01:13:33,287 --> 01:13:37,678
Dear, l'm warning you, and you
laid my last wife into a coffin
799
01:13:37,767 --> 01:13:40,565
and you remember
her angry expression.
800
01:13:40,647 --> 01:13:44,276
Now you are in her shoes
and want the same thing, me dead,
801
01:13:44,367 --> 01:13:49,361
and that's not good. Neither you
nor l can live with that.
802
01:13:49,447 --> 01:13:53,042
But l'm not going
to give you that joy.
803
01:13:53,127 --> 01:13:56,597
l won't give you the pleasure.
lt will come, of course,
804
01:13:56,687 --> 01:14:00,236
but by then we will be apart
thousands of light years.
805
01:14:00,327 --> 01:14:04,525
-Jan? We should go.
-Oh yes.
806
01:14:26,967 --> 01:14:30,482
l think he loves him.
l mean he doesn't know it yet.
807
01:14:30,567 --> 01:14:32,125
The baby or Jan?
808
01:14:32,207 --> 01:14:35,040
l think the baby senses it,
he feels it.
809
01:14:35,127 --> 01:14:41,157
Jan has his doubts. He's not sure
one can have such strong feelings
810
01:14:41,247 --> 01:14:43,477
in such a short time.
811
01:14:44,487 --> 01:14:48,958
But almost every day
he prepares his bath if he can.
812
01:14:49,047 --> 01:14:52,676
Pavlina Hodkova -Jan Saudek's girlfriend
813
01:14:52,767 --> 01:14:57,966
And if he can, he talks to him
and caresses him , holds him.
814
01:14:58,047 --> 01:14:59,321
Does he enjoy it?
815
01:14:59,407 --> 01:15:03,480
Did you know Lilies of the Valley
potion, even the leaves, is poison?
816
01:15:03,567 --> 01:15:06,035
Jewish graveyard,Prague - Olsany
817
01:15:06,127 --> 01:15:08,880
lt's like in Dance of the Vampires
818
01:15:08,967 --> 01:15:12,277
where a poor Jew
is in the count's coffin.
819
01:15:12,367 --> 01:15:17,157
My parents moved in on Aunt
Schwarzkopf, you see, here they are,
820
01:15:18,367 --> 01:15:22,360
in there and my brother thinks
it makes no sense to come here.
821
01:15:22,447 --> 01:15:29,364
My father couldn't sing or dance
but he was a genuine man.
822
01:15:29,447 --> 01:15:37,923
l can sing, l dance and l think
l am deceitful and dishonest.
823
01:15:38,007 --> 01:15:43,559
He was a top person. That's why
I think of him more than others.
824
01:15:43,647 --> 01:15:49,961
My brother was like that too. He
taught me to reach for the horizon,
825
01:15:50,047 --> 01:15:53,198
that we can't stop.
That's what the road is for.
826
01:15:53,527 --> 01:15:57,839
Your last marriage ended tragically,
your wife committed suicide.
827
01:15:57,927 --> 01:15:59,804
No!
828
01:15:59,887 --> 01:16:03,323
-She died of unexplainable...
-The one before her killed herself.
829
01:16:03,407 --> 01:16:04,726
Yes.
830
01:16:04,807 --> 01:16:10,962
And the reason for that suicide
was that you tormented her?
831
01:16:11,047 --> 01:16:19,159
l'd like to say that most
of her relatives hanged themselves,
832
01:16:19,447 --> 01:16:24,567
l sense that on her father's side
it was kind of a habit.
833
01:16:25,407 --> 01:16:29,525
But l was accused of it
and l take the blame on myself
834
01:16:29,607 --> 01:16:34,442
and when l see her again
l will humbly apologize to her.
835
01:16:34,607 --> 01:16:42,082
l think in that family people are
respected and seen after death.
836
01:16:43,687 --> 01:16:48,442
As soon as someone dies, he is
often visited at the cemetery.
837
01:16:48,527 --> 01:16:54,124
He is praised and remembered but
while he's still here, no one cares.
838
01:16:54,207 --> 01:16:58,519
A person receives attention
the moment he is gone.
839
01:16:59,487 --> 01:17:03,082
About the woman after
whom you are the widower
840
01:17:03,167 --> 01:17:08,878
you could say that
she tortured herself to death.
841
01:17:09,967 --> 01:17:13,357
That's it, l even heard
that l poisoned her
842
01:17:13,447 --> 01:17:16,564
but that's exaggerating,
l didn't go that far.
843
01:17:16,647 --> 01:17:20,401
Yes, she tortured herself to death
she really tortured herself to death.
844
01:17:20,487 --> 01:17:25,402
We were pretty much enemies
845
01:17:25,767 --> 01:17:30,795
and l laid her in her grave
and during the ceremony they said:
846
01:17:30,887 --> 01:17:33,082
"Say your final
good-bye to your mother."
847
01:17:34,567 --> 01:17:37,286
l loved this girl very much.
848
01:17:38,927 --> 01:17:42,317
She is the one
who Sara put in her coffin. . .
849
01:17:42,407 --> 01:17:43,806
Your last wife?
850
01:17:43,887 --> 01:17:47,516
Last wife, as you can see,
she lived a very short life.
851
01:17:48,327 --> 01:17:52,320
Jan's second wife Jana with whom he
had two children, committed suicide.
852
01:17:52,407 --> 01:17:55,399
His third wife Marie died
of complete organ failure
853
01:17:55,487 --> 01:17:57,523
when their daughter Marie was 1 5.
854
01:17:57,767 --> 01:18:00,235
-How often do you come here?
-Often.
855
01:18:00,327 --> 01:18:02,682
-Definitely every week.
-Really?
856
01:18:02,767 --> 01:18:07,921
On the way here l go to see my
ex-mother-in-law who hated me
857
01:18:08,007 --> 01:18:10,521
and my parents and possibly
858
01:18:10,607 --> 01:18:14,805
if l have time and some flowers,
l put them on Jan Palach's grave
859
01:18:14,887 --> 01:18:18,197
who is in the cemetery
we visited recently.
860
01:18:19,287 --> 01:18:21,960
-Are those two deaths haunting you?
-Yes.
861
01:18:22,447 --> 01:18:27,965
Often the ladies come,
decayed and in torn gowns,
862
01:18:28,047 --> 01:18:32,279
and imply that l should follow
them . All the way to the end.
863
01:18:32,367 --> 01:18:36,679
-Do you feel guilty?
-All the time. But remember
864
01:18:37,167 --> 01:18:40,557
whatever you do you in your life
you will always regret it.
865
01:18:40,647 --> 01:18:43,605
lf l'd stayed in my first
marriage and behaved well
866
01:18:43,687 --> 01:18:48,556
l would hate myself now for all
those things l would have missed.
867
01:18:49,927 --> 01:18:55,160
ls it coincidental that your last wife
has a symbolic gravestone here?
868
01:18:55,367 --> 01:19:03,206
No, l wanted it that way and l am
glad because l think of her a lot
869
01:19:04,607 --> 01:19:11,797
and today we will photograph
her daughter for some foundation
870
01:19:12,607 --> 01:19:16,680
for free again. lt's moments away
and so l am really delighted that
871
01:19:16,767 --> 01:19:23,639
you'll not only see her mom's grave
but also her in the bloom of youth.
872
01:19:23,727 --> 01:19:26,366
l think you will like it.
873
01:19:46,927 --> 01:19:53,400
Once all these scamps sleep in their
graves, you'll be at your peak.
874
01:19:54,647 --> 01:19:58,242
And a hundred years from now
none of us will be alive.
875
01:20:16,127 --> 01:20:18,880
Why are we going to Olomouc?
876
01:20:19,727 --> 01:20:22,287
For sentimental reasons.
877
01:20:22,367 --> 01:20:24,323
Sunday 1 0.6.2007
878
01:20:24,407 --> 01:20:27,558
Today, but earlier in the morning,
879
01:20:27,647 --> 01:20:29,842
it's 50 years since l said good-bye
880
01:20:29,927 --> 01:20:33,522
to my love of one evening
but it was very strong.
881
01:20:33,607 --> 01:20:37,680
l was going back to Prague
and she stayed in Moravia.
882
01:20:38,567 --> 01:20:41,206
Back then we promised
to each other
883
01:20:41,287 --> 01:20:44,836
in the middle of kisses
and morning dew
884
01:20:45,007 --> 01:20:49,797
that we'd meet there again in
50 years, if we were still alive.
885
01:20:51,567 --> 01:20:56,687
lf she remembers it will be
the most beautiful moment in my life.
886
01:20:57,167 --> 01:21:00,716
l hope she'll recognize me.
l don't remember her face.
887
01:21:00,807 --> 01:21:04,004
l remember only that early
morning moment.
888
01:21:04,207 --> 01:21:08,803
lf we're lucky and it's why l drag
you with me, you will record
889
01:21:08,887 --> 01:21:14,007
this dream coming true, which
rarely happens and seldom to me.
890
01:21:14,607 --> 01:21:19,203
lt was a story of one night and
those are often the most powerful.
891
01:21:19,287 --> 01:21:24,566
Unfortunately women don't like that.
They want a lifelong story,
892
01:21:25,007 --> 01:21:30,923
but men don't. For me it was a story
of one sleepless night and morning.
893
01:23:53,287 --> 01:23:57,599
"My dearest,
l've forgotten your name,
894
01:23:57,687 --> 01:24:04,718
but the town where
l wanted to meet you again. . .
895
01:24:12,527 --> 01:24:20,207
. . .after so many years
l will not forget as long as l live."
896
01:24:26,527 --> 01:24:32,762
l've always foolishly believed
that night is my kingdom ,
897
01:24:32,847 --> 01:24:35,964
that it surrounds me,
that it will pamper me,
898
01:24:36,047 --> 01:24:42,646
that in the darkness, my defects
and ugliness won't be so visible,
899
01:24:43,887 --> 01:24:47,846
that the night will embrace me
and will carry me.
900
01:24:47,927 --> 01:24:54,878
Today l am scared. Even the birds
cry in horror at the morning light.
901
01:24:56,327 --> 01:24:59,285
Maybe.
902
01:24:59,607 --> 01:25:03,839
l was never a bird.
But l wanted to fly
903
01:25:03,927 --> 01:25:09,718
and at night half asleep
l succeeded.
904
01:25:10,367 --> 01:25:15,316
l was flying, not very high above
the ground but l was still flying.
905
01:25:15,887 --> 01:25:22,201
But then naturally came the dawn,
the daybreak
906
01:25:24,287 --> 01:25:28,883
and that's the time when all our
beautiful dreams must go to sleep.
907
01:25:33,767 --> 01:25:35,837
Dolfie, tell me. . .
908
01:25:35,927 --> 01:25:38,919
l am wandering around here,
tell me, are you local?
909
01:25:39,007 --> 01:25:42,602
-Yes, l am local.
-No, ask: Are you local?
910
01:25:42,767 --> 01:25:45,281
My friend, are you local?
911
01:25:45,527 --> 01:25:48,405
No, l ride the smoker to the end.
912
01:25:52,487 --> 01:25:56,560
-How did you know about the butt?
-l've run by it several times.
913
01:27:21,167 --> 01:27:25,001
l don't know if l achieved
something,
914
01:27:27,327 --> 01:27:30,205
l seriously doubt it.
915
01:27:31,087 --> 01:27:36,036
After all in the best scenario
the photographer's photos are known
916
01:27:36,127 --> 01:27:39,597
but never who is behind them ,
the creator,
917
01:27:39,687 --> 01:27:45,364
who wants to be greeted
and perhaps praised.
918
01:27:45,447 --> 01:27:52,444
l've desperately tried all my life
in my homeland to achieve.
919
01:27:55,487 --> 01:27:57,637
And now at the end
920
01:27:58,967 --> 01:28:03,199
l worry that this entire effort
921
01:28:04,047 --> 01:28:06,686
was all in vain.
922
01:30:03,967 --> 01:30:08,518
That short time
while l was watching
923
01:30:08,887 --> 01:30:14,678
a woman's behind with admiration,
my life slipped between my fingers.
924
01:30:36,847 --> 01:30:38,758
l n 1 990 in Paris, Jan Saudek
925
01:30:38,847 --> 01:30:42,203
was the first Czech to receive
after the Velvet Revolution
926
01:30:42,287 --> 01:30:44,676
the French Order of Arts
and literature.
927
01:30:44,767 --> 01:30:48,476
He was followed by writer B. Hrabal
and ex-president Vaclav Havel.
928
01:30:48,567 --> 01:30:51,400
l n 1 992 Jan Saudek's window
inspired the band R.E.M.
929
01:30:51,487 --> 01:30:54,285
who showed it in their
video Losing My Religion.
930
01:30:54,367 --> 01:30:57,757
l n 1 998 Jan Saudek was included
in the Absolut Vodka family,
931
01:30:57,847 --> 01:31:01,203
his photograph Absolut Saudek
together with his interview
932
01:31:01,287 --> 01:31:03,881
was published in the American
TlME magazine.
933
01:31:03,967 --> 01:31:07,846
l n 1 998 the Czech Republic held
Jan Saudek's last official exhibit.
934
01:31:07,927 --> 01:31:11,124
He donated the auction profit,
almost 8 million crowns,
935
01:31:11,207 --> 01:31:13,516
for bone marrow transplants.
936
01:31:13,607 --> 01:31:17,361
Jan Saudek published 20 books
which are sold all over the world.
937
01:31:17,447 --> 01:31:21,042
The number of Jan Saudek's books,
calendars and posters sold
938
01:31:21,127 --> 01:31:23,516
exceeded a million pieces long ago.
939
01:31:23,607 --> 01:31:27,646
Although he is represented in many
prestigious galleries and museums
940
01:31:27,727 --> 01:31:31,515
all around the world, his work is
not in the Prague National Gallery.
941
01:31:31,607 --> 01:31:35,646
The producer formally asked for an
interview for the film about Saudek
942
01:31:35,727 --> 01:31:38,082
but the director
of the National Gallery,
943
01:31:38,167 --> 01:31:40,203
professor Milan Knizak, refused.
944
01:31:40,287 --> 01:31:44,280
Professor Milan Knizak is the second
husband of Jan's first wife Marie.
945
01:31:44,367 --> 01:31:46,756
He raised Jan's sons
Samuel and David.
946
01:31:46,847 --> 01:31:50,362
Jan Saudek's twin, Kaja Saudek,
due to an unfortunate incident,
947
01:31:50,447 --> 01:31:53,644
two years ago fell into a coma
that lasted two months.
948
01:31:53,727 --> 01:31:56,525
At present, he rests
in the intensive care unit
949
01:31:56,607 --> 01:31:59,201
of the Motol University
Hospital in Prague.
950
01:31:59,287 --> 01:32:02,643
His family still believes
that a miracle will come true.
951
01:32:02,727 --> 01:32:06,276
Kaja Saudek is still considered
the king of Czech cartoons.
952
01:32:06,367 --> 01:32:08,801
Sara is still Jan Saudek's
only manager.
953
01:32:08,887 --> 01:32:11,606
She has three children with
Jan's son Samuel
954
01:32:11,687 --> 01:32:14,963
and lives in the residence
housing the Saudek.com company
955
01:32:15,047 --> 01:32:17,242
at the edge of a nature preserve.
956
01:32:17,327 --> 01:32:20,558
Samuel still lives in his apartment
in downtown Prague.
957
01:32:20,647 --> 01:32:23,445
He comes daily to see
the children and Sara.
958
01:32:23,527 --> 01:32:27,202
Sara wants to keep delivering
children and remain a single mother.
959
01:32:27,287 --> 01:32:31,405
After finishing the documentary,
Jan moved out of his flat of 1 7 years
960
01:32:31,487 --> 01:32:36,003
into the old villa where he lives
with the family of his daughter Marie
961
01:32:36,167 --> 01:32:39,318
who conquered
her heroin addiction.
962
01:35:40,687 --> 01:35:45,203
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