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[Shaun] Previously on "90 Day Fiancé, Before the 90 Days"

the Couples Tell All...

Should we just all compare boobs?

-Grab them. -Don't look, Forrest.

OK -- no, Sheena's gonna see me.

I'm gonna get in trouble here.

Defend me, Rick.

Emma and Ziad, have either of you started dating

other people? -I've been actively dating.

Just some, you know, flings and hookups.

A few months ago, Emma reached out to me on social media,

and she's like, "I just wanna let you know that Rob and I

have been hooking up for, like, this past year."

Rob is completely out of my life.

Who the [bleep] cares that they hooked up?

-Trisha, you have a big update. -[Trisha] Yes.

-[Laura] Oh, my God. -[Jovon] Oh!

-Oh, my God. -[Sheena] Wow.

-[Trisha] I am six months pregnant. -Rick, are you the dad?

Damn.

Oh.

I'm more father than you will ever be in your [bleep] life,

you piece of [bleep].

And Forrest, did you tell Sheena that Emma was flirting

with you? -Of course I did.

[Shaun] And what did she say?

"I'm gonna rip that fake bitch's lips off."

[Laura] Damn.

-You’re lying. -[Shaun] Sheena!

-Oh, no, no. -I didn't know you had this side to you.

-Oh, no! -Is that another lie, Sheena?

Daniel and I are no longer engaged.

[Daniel speaking]

What?

You tricked me!

What?

We went for a cleansing, and he said that was a wedding.

A wedding that I didn't know about.

-Ooh. -Ah!

-Holy [bleep]! -He doesn't give a [bleep].

Look at that smile.

And now he pretty much told me that I am cursed.

-What? -I ended up in the hospital.

-I was bleeding, I was dying. -What?

I will be honest, I keep going back to Daniel because

I'm terrified for my life.

I feel like I'm gonna die because I am cursed

by a Nigerian priest. -Oh my God.

It was a black magic curse.

Daniel says that we are

cursed by this -- -Calm -- calm down, OK?

Have you not told me that we are cursed, Daniel?

What the [bleep], you -- you -- ugh.

I was told that it cannot be undone

unless I come back to Nigeria.

Daniel, do you think these things that have happened

to Lisa are the result of this curse?

[Daniel] Yes.

-Oh, Jesus. -That's scary.

Hey, Lisa, he's [bleep] crazy. Don't believe that [bleep].

Those stuff only work if you believe it.

Your thoughts and your words are very powerful.

So I rebuke that. There's no curse on you, girl.

Don't accept that [bleep].

[Lisa] Thank you, Stig.

I think the biggest question is, why couldn't I know

that my mother was going into the hospital

and was dying?

What is she talking about?

Can you give us some clarity on what you're talking

about, Faith? -Mom had an ectopic pregnancy.

What?

She already had a hysterectomy.

We never even considered she could get pregnant.

[Laura] Wait.

I didn't know you could have an ectopic pregnancy when

you had a partial hysterectomy. It wasn't a full hysterectomy.

-It was a partial one. -[Laura] Oh, Lisa, I'm so sorry.

I'm sorry, Lisa.

[Emma] So sorry, Lisa.

So what? I need clarification.

What does that mean?

Mom could not save the pregnancy, no matter what.

[Shaun] Yeah, an ectopic pregnancy is a pregnancy that happens

outside the uterus. -That's crazy.

Lisa, did this happen at a hospital in Nigeria or in the States?

No. I was over 10 weeks pregnant.

It happened in the States.

After you had gotten back from Nigeria?

[Lisa] After I'd gotten back from Nigeria.

We got pregnant right around the first time we had sex.

[group] Wow.

And Daniel didn't want anybody to know.

Faith finally found out. I did tell her.

And I wouldn't even allow her to go to the hospital

with me in fear of what Daniel would say.

That's wild.

I went through the whole thing by myself,

the surgery and everything.

He went to sleep when you said you were about to have

to have surgery.

I tried to wake you up.

But, Daniel, you were not there for me,

and I don't need you.

I found my truth.

-I know who I am today. -[Laura] Yes, you do.

I'm not gonna let somebody push me down and tell me who

I can be and who I can't be any longer.

I will find my voice.

'Cause I don't have that kind of love

for you anymore, Daniel. You ruined it.

[Shaun] OK, there are certainly a lot of layers to this story.

Lisa, we learned earlier that your last breakup was caused

by accusations of cheating, which you denied.

Daniel, did you accuse her of sleeping with other people?

You know, I haven't had sex with anybody since Daniel.

And that's the truth.

[Daniel speaking]

You don't have to believe me.

I don't give a [bleep] if you believe me or not.

[Shaun] OK, Daniel, hold on.

Lisa, tell us, who is this other guy in Nigeria?

We met on social media.

He has been a very good friend to me.

He was there for me when Daniel and I were going

through problems. He was my best friend.

-Best friend. -[Lisa] He talked to me through everything.

And I'll tell you what, he's no longer my best friend.

He is the love of my life.

-Oh. -Damn.

At first, he was just commenting on my videos.

It was very innocent, fun, little comments.

And then one day, Daniel and I had a fight.

And I said, "You know what? I'm gonna ask

a guy's opinion if I was in the wrong."

He actually told me Daniel was right.

-[Elise] Wow. -[Lisa] He took Daniel's side.

-[Laura] Wow. -[Lisa] And we just started talking.

Talked about my marriages, and we talked about Faith.

We talked about everything.

This is a lot of communication you're holding with this guy.

I was.

[Shaun] When you were in a relationship with Daniel?

Yeah, yeah.

OK, so do you feel like you were cheating on Daniel talking to him?

I don't, because we weren't doing anything inappropriate.

It was normal conversations.

I mean, I saw the text messages.

They were just friends.

Maybe emotional connection, though.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but still, that's -- that's -- that's a form of cheating, I think.

[Lisa] He has.

Now, yes, but we're not together.

You and I aren't together.

No, no, we were not in a relationship.

Just because you think we're in a relationship does not mean

we're in a relationship.

Huh?

What the hell?

You're not her master.

He believes that he is the master of me.

-[bleep] -[Faith] I don't think anyone should belong to anyone.

[Lisa] Can I have two masters at a time?

No, I cannot have two masters, and I won't have any master.

Rick is nodding. Do you agree with Daniel?

-I believe that the man was trying to -- yeah. -Swoop in.

[Laura] Mm-hmm.

She doesn't want you.

[Shaun] OK, at this point, we're all curious about this mystery man.

And we are fortunate enough to connect with him now.

[Laura and Rick] What?

-So we and Daniel can get to know him. -[Elise] Oh, no.

Oh.

Please welcome Ty.

Everybody's gonna see how she acts and manipulates.

Starts with the waterworks.

I feel like I wasted a lot of time.

-Don't cry. -Yeah, I feel bad about it.

[Emma] Oh.

There is something that I've been, like, upset about.

I found out, like, you tried to hook up with Rob.

I didn't do anything [bleep] wrong.

That guy's not your boyfriend.

He's [bleep] able to do whatever the [bleep] he wants.

[Emma] Don't raise your voice at me.

-Don't -- don't -- -Don't get me mad and attack me.

You're hooking up with other guys.

Who [bleep] cares?

[Shaun] Lisa has a new man in her life. Please welcome Ty.

-Hi, Ty. -[Trisha] Oh.

[Lisa] Hi, Ty.

-Oh. -Hi, baby.

[Shaun] How are you?

Every -- everyone is doing great.

Daniel, would you like to say hello to Ty?

[Shaun] You're not?

Ty, do you consider Lisa your girlfriend?

Do we have a big age gap?

No -- no --no hate on that. I mean, it just looks like it.

It's 21 years, he's 31.

[Laura] How does this work going forward if Lisa's traditionally

married to Daniel in Nigeria

and now has a new man in Nigeria?

Lisa, do you have plans to go to Nigeria again?

-[Lisa] I do. -[Shaun] You do?

-I do. -To see Ty?

[Lisa] Yes.

Faith is coming with me when I go to Nigeria.

Faith knows Ty and has approved of Ty.

Ty and I are having a legal wedding.

[gasps]

You and Ty are getting married?

-Ty and I are getting married. -[Laura] Whoa, wait, what?

-These bombs just keep dropping. -Yeah, this is a lot.

Wow.

So Ty, have you proposed to her?

[Ty speaking]

Wait, what?

Why don't you just, like, move there, take it slow,

see how you like it, then maybe

an engagement, then a marriage. Like, what's the rush?

Eh, she's never like that. That's the issue.

-You're very impulsive, Mom, you know [indistinct]. -I am very impulsive.

I am very impulsive, number one.

-[Faith] That's her track record. -[Shaun] OK.

Daniel, do you have any warnings or advice to Ty

as he prepares for his marriage to Lisa?

Oh.

I'm getting married to Ty. I wanna be away from Daniel.

Daniel finds a way back into my life every which way I go.

I don't think you escape from one guy and jump

in with another. -It’s not about it, it's not just about escape.

But you just said you can't get away from him.

I can't get away from Daniel.

-I feel like... -Daniel keeps finding a way back into my life

and I don't wanna -- -...that's not a good motivation to jump into a marriage

with something -- the same. -It's not just about that.

-It feels like you're doing more of the same. -It’s not just about that.

I will be honest with you, Laura.

I love Ty. Ty knows about my past.

Ty knows about everything about me.

But the difference was, he accepted it from

the very beginning. -I can see the difference.

OK.

This sounds like an extremely complicated situation

between all of you.

Faith, thank you so much for being here.

-We really appreciate it. -Thank you.

-[Shaun] Thank you. -Thank you, Faith.

Ty, it has been a pleasure meeting you today.

Thank you for speaking with us.

[Ty speaking]

[Shaun] Lisa, it seems like you've moved on, but any final words

for Daniel? -Leave me alone and let me go.

Let me go, Daniel. You say that you are my master.

Just let me go because I don't have a master.

No, it's -- it's -- it's...

Oh, my God. This is insane.

OK, that was a lot.

There is still a lot of things that need to be figured out.

Everybody stretch your legs, and we'll call you back soon.

[Aviva] That's no good.

[Lisa] Thank you for sticking up for me.

-Thank you for holding my back. -[Faith] Yeah, I love you.

So if I married Ty,

what is your percentage of approval?

70, 75.

And the reason it's that amount is because I really do think

you should have a break.

Take your time.

I will -- I will take my time with the wedding,

but I am still moving, Faith, to be with him

and to live with him and to grow with him

and to see what life is like with him.

Please don't move to Nigeria right away.

Please. Give it time.

-Give it time. -It's worth waiting.

[Elise] I'm coming in the girl's circle.

Are you OK?

I love you and I care about you.

I am perfectly OK. I am perfectly OK.

That was a [bleep] load.

-Yeah, it was. -Yeah.

-Yeah. -When Ty came on, I kind of felt bad for Daniel.

-I'm not gonna lie. -Really?

-I didn't feel bad. -I felt bad that, like, Daniel had to see the guy that

she's now in love with.

OK, sorry.

[Lisa] Faith, I'll see you tonight.

[Elise] But I don't think they're traditionally married.

I don't know. Maybe she'll go back to women.

Alright, let's be done with me now.

-Oh, there's my Sheena. -[Shaun] Alright.

[producer] Three, two...

Now we are turning our attention

to Forrest and Sheena.

Before Forrest and Sheena can get married, they face

two big obstacles.

Forrest's disapproving mom and him needing a steady job

for the K-1 visa process.

So Forrest, you said that

you're a pharmacy tech. -[Forrest] Yeah.

-[Shaun] Mm-hmm? -I just got my paycheck...

-Ooh! -...today, $781.

And I'll get another one next week.

[Shaun] Alright.

You think it's going to be enough to support you and Sheena?

Um, as long as I keep this job.

I do have to say that it really

is putting a lot of stress on me and my body.

-I'm doing 40 hours a week. -[Shaun] Yes.

And then sometimes overtime.

And when I get home, I barely have time to talk to my Sheen.

Because --

[Shaun] Oh.

-Don't cry. -Yeah, I feel bad about it.

-[Sheena] I love you, baby. -[Emma] Oh.

I get home and I want to spend time with her, and I can't

because I'm so tired and I just pass out. -[Emma] Oh, aw.

And then it's the same thing with my mom.

I can't spend any time with my mother either.

-That might be a good thing. -[Molly] There it is.

Everybody thinks that I'm just like this big bad guy,

but everybody's gonna see how she manipulates.

Starts with the waterworks. You're gonna see.

I have no time for anybody, but I wanna get everything

done as fast as possible.

And I feel like I wasted a lot of time.

Keep your eye on the prize, Forrest.

You got this, Forrest.

One day you'll be sleeping right next to Sheena.

I hope so.

But I have not started the application process yet,

because you can't even, you know,

fill it online anymore.

It has to be on paper, and I don't have a printer.

And getting everything together, it's just very confusing.

I'll help you with the paperwork, Forrest.

-I would -- I would love that. -I'll help you.

-I live close to you, Forrest. -[Forrest] I know.

I promise to come and help you.

I would appreciate that, guys.

-Thank you so much, guys. -I -- I love you all.

-Thank you. -You're welcome, Sheena.

We love you.

-Thank you. -Sheena seems very excited about that.

OK.

Well, besides the K-1 visa, another hurdle this couple

has faced is family approval.

Forrest's mom was not happy when he popped the question

to Sheena. Now, she is here.

Please welcome Molly.

Alright, where is she?

Here we go.

She's very deceptive, and I worry she won't

actually come here.

I started this thinking Molly was the problem, and now

I switched to thinking Sheena's the problem.

There's something that doesn't sit quite right.

-[Molly] Sheena? -Yes, Mom?

If the day comes, would you really actually leave

and come over here and stay?

Please welcome Forrest's mom, Molly.

-[Shaun] Hi, Molly. -[Molly] Hello.

-Hey, Mom. -[Molly] Very nice to meet you.

I love your dress.

[Molly] Hey, son, hey.

-Welcome. -Looking fancy.

-Ooh, thank you, hey Sheena. -Hi, Mom.

Well, Molly, thank you so much for being here.

You were really upset with Forrest in the Philippines.

Are you guys back on good terms today?

Um...

we're trying to be.

We have a type of relationship

where we say what's on our mind.

That's where we have our, you know, squabbles.

OK.

Well, despite the disagreements,

this mother and son relationship is very close.

Let's take a look at some of the advice Molly gave

to Forrest, including some never-before-seen footage.

-Forrest, lube and condoms. -[Forrest] Alright, right.

There you go. No babies.

Have fun. Be safe.

-You got this, Mom. -No, you got this.

-[Forrest] Dang straight. -You have fun.

Turn the radio up.

Show her respect, which I know you will.

And have a hell of a good time. You -- you guys deserve it, OK?

-OK, I love you, son. -I love you, too, Mom.

-OK. -Good night.

-[Molly] Good night. -Thank you.

[Molly] Yes.

Did you guys do the old nookie-nookie?

[Stig laughs]

-[both] No. -[Molly] No?

-[both] No. -Oh, OK.

Well, there are other things that you can do.

There's oral sex. There's fondling.

Oh, Molly.

You know, if we wanna talk about sex with you,

we'll come up and ask about it.

OK. Excuse me.

Oh.

As of today, I am not a virgin anymore.

It was a great sensation. I never...

It's way better than what I thought, OK?

Way better than what I do at night by myself.

Me and my hand, I'm sorry, we're gonna have to break up.

-[Aviva] OK, Forrest. -[Laura] Get it, Forrest.

Sheena!

-Action man. -Way to go, Sheena.

My hand now belongs to -- to Sheena, so.

-Oh, wow, get it, girl. -He retired it.

[Shaun] Alright, Molly, when you look back at that,

do you think you were being too involved

in their sex life?

No.

-That's crazy. -No?

-That's crazy. -That's wild.

[Molly] You know, like I said, we have a very open

communication with each other. And that's just, you know,

a discussion that everybody would feel comfortable

talking about, we -- I mean -- -It didn't look like anyone was

comfortable when you were talking about that.

Yeah, it's -- it's awkward to have these conversations

with my mom at times.

But I have to understand that I'm still her son.

And it may come across as nasty, sexual, oh, she's in

his business, but she's just there supporting me.

[Shaun] So you and Forrest disagree,

because Forrest is saying it was fine. -[Molly] Yeah.

Sheena is saying she was uncomfortable.

OK, so it's to an extent.

So like, the lube and stuff,

that was like, "Oh, I care about you,"

but then asking how our sex was, I do believe that

was overstepping the line for both me and Sheena.

That -- that was a little weird, Mom.

Yeah.

It's like a matter-of-fact type thing.

It's like, I don't want all the juicy details

or anything like that.

Just, OK, yes, no, fine, good.

Do you need any guidance?

[Shaun] Well, you've got a fan, Molly.

[indistinct overlapping chatter]

Yes.

Molly, how do you view Forrest and Sheena's

relationship today?

I support their relationship, I do, as long as --

as Sheena doesn't lie.

Do you still feel like Sheena lies to you?

Yes. I feel like Sheena still lies.

Because she's very deceptive.

[Shaun] What do you think she's lying about?

It comes down to the -- doing the whole process

with the K-1 visa and all of the money with her family.

Sheena changes the story daily.

She's very manipulative.

-Oh. -[Annalyn] Oh, wow.

Yeah.

How did you feel, Molly, when Sheena said that she would

not send money to her family anymore, and then the next day,

after the conversation with her father says she still needs

to send them money and Forrest needs to send money?

But that's exactly what I'm -- I'm talking about, how this

flip-flop type thing of tell one person one thing and then

tell somebody else something else and then have it not even

be the total truth at all.

Actually, Forrest really wanted me to save money,

so I don't know how to explain this to him that it's culturally

for me to have it to help my family because my family

also provides the stuff that I need in my daily life.

So I happen to save money much better compared to the last,

the longest years.

So you -- your family hasn't been asking you for money?

No, no more. No, no, no.

That's not what I was told.

Her parents were asking her for money.

[Shaun] As recently as?

Yes, as recently as a week ago.

-No, no, no, no. -[Shaun] OK.

-Wow. -Why -- why Sheena disagree with that?

Yeah, that's what I'd like to know, Sheena.

-[Rick] Uh-oh. -[Molly] It's a lie.

What money? What money?

OK, you gonna start crying now, Sheena?

Oh, my -- oh.

-That's bullying. -[Jovon] Yeah.

'Cause she's interrogating me.

And yeah. That's why she's crying.

No, no, I'm not crying. It's OK.

Is that the truth?

-Oy. -Molly, who told you that?

Look at Forrest. Look at him.

-[Rick] Yeah. -[Shaun] Ooh, Forrest?

Uh, yes.

-Oh, no. -Forrest, did you tell your mom that?

So they -- they asked for help, but then they didn't,

like, take any money from her. -Oh.

They asked for help, but she didn't send it to them.

-[Forrest] Exactly. -[Molly] Oh.

So she's -- Sheena's not lying. She hasn't given them any.

-[Shaun] OK. -But they've asked.

But Sheena, you just said they have not asked for money.

-Mm-hmm. -No.

No. They didn't.

But -- but Forrest is saying the opposite.

-Yeah. -[Elise] They have asked.

You haven't given. There's a difference.

I don't understand.

-Forrest. -[Shaun] Fo -- OK.

So Sheena, your parents said, "Hey, can you help me out?"

-OK. -And then you said "No," right?

-Yes. -And didn't give them anything.

Correct. That's what happened.

-Yes. -There, there.

-That's -- that's it. -Oh.

But you don't have to lie.

I feel like Sheena feels intimidated by Molly because

every time you talk to her, you always have this energy

-Like you -- that you wanna fight her.

That's the last thing I want is for Sheena to feel

intimidated because ultimately, I love her and I care about

her and I want what's best for her.

-And she loves Forrest. -[Emma] Aw.

I know she loves him.

I think that she's a good fit for him.

And that's what I find is so frustrating.

I just want you to -- to have a life too.

I want you to succeed too.

I saw what was occurring in your family.

You're working all these hours and they just give all

the money to your brother. -No, that's not true.

The truth is I'm helping my family

and I'm also helping Forrest as well.

That's all.

OK, well, what's happening with the brother, Sheena?

Your parents help your brother, but you have to help

your parents, so your money is basically going

to help your brother.

-Is that true? -[Sheena] Um...

Are your parents helping your brother?

My brother? No, not so much.

I don't understand, like...

It -- it's a "Yes" or "No."

[Elise] That's a very vague answer that someone that likes

to manipulate would give, just to be honest with you.

-True. -Yes, Sheena.

[Shaun] What do you mean, Elise?

I mean, like, "not so much." You could...

It's an easy way out of lying, I think.

-I'm sorry. -Damn.

Forrest, you should know how much money Sheena is sending

her parents, because she was supposed to be sending

screenshots of her expenses to you.

-Has she been doing that? -I haven't asked for them.

Do you think you should send it to me on your own?

-Like, monthly or? -[Jovon] Yeah.

[Forrest] Weekly, like how much you give your parents?

[Sheena speaking]

No, but with -- without -- without me asking, do you --

do you feel like you should do that?

Yes, yes...

I just think it’s funny.

I started this thinking Molly was the problem,

and now I switched to thinking Sheena's the problem.

-And why do you think so? -I'm kinda agreeing with Elise, I agree with Elise.

-[Shaun] Why? -[Lisa] I agree with Elise, too.

I just feel like there's -- there's lots of little hiccups,

and I wanna say, yes, it might be a language barrier,

but it also feels like it might not be. -[Elise] Yeah.

[Laura] There's something that doesn't sit quite right.

I feel like it's in Sheena's nature to -- to not be honest

all the time, but I think it's coming from a genuine

place, 'cause she was really afraid of losing Forrest.

-She was trying to please us both at the same time. -[Laura and Rick] Yeah.

-Yes, yeah. -[Laura] It sounds like it.

-And she didn’t know what -- -[Rick] That’s what she said.

You guys are gonna have to get over this, "I was afraid

to tell you the truth." -[Forrest] Yeah.

-Yeah. -[Shaun] Because that is going to be

something that is gonna chip away at the foundation

of this relationship. -Yeah.

-[Molly] Sheena? -Yes, Mom.

[Molly] I just want to know, if the day comes,

would you really actually leave and come over here and stay?

I worry she won't actually come here.

[Shaun] Why is that?

Just because I understand her need to take care

of her family and be there for her family.

And she won't leave 'cause -- that duty.

But what is your timeline...

to actually start this process of getting the K-1 visa?

Well, since, you know, Rick and everybody here said

they would give me additional help,

I -- I would say

I'm -- I'm ready after -- after here.

One step at a time.

And Sheena will be on her way over here.

Yes. I'm ready to do it.

[Shaun] You're ready. Alright.

-Yeah. -[Shaun] OK.

Molly, thank you so much.

I know this has been very difficult for you...

-Yeah. -...but we appreciate you being so open and honest with us.

-Thank you for being here. -[Molly and Emma] Thank you.

-Thank you, Molly. -[Molly] Thank you.

Forrest and Sheena, we wish you the best of luck

with your engagement, and we hope the K-1 visa

process moves ahead very smoothly.

Alright, now it is time to focus on Aviva and Stig.

Aviva and Stig's connection in Belize was strong, but not

long after the proposal, something caused him to change

his mind, and we're about to learn

what exactly went wrong.

Now, before we get to the breakup, I wanna talk

about the start of the trip.

Aviva, you were open to having

a child very, very quickly with Stig.

Why did you feel that way after just meeting him?

Well, we had talked on and off for several years.

I don't know, I thought we had a pretty good relationship

and I don't think I went into it wanting, like,

a baby right away.

However, if it happened, it happened and I wouldn't have

been upset about it.

[Shaun] So Stig, you hadn't even said "I love you" to Aviva.

Do you think you were really ready for a child at that time?

I mean...

But I did have crazy love

for Aviva and the age that I'm at, I've already done

all these crazy things

and enjoy being an artist, you know?

So I was very open to starting a family and all that.

Like, I was genuine about that.

Does anyone else think it was odd?

-Irresponsible? -[Lisa] It was very irresponsible.

I think it's super irresponsible.

Were neither of you worried about, like, any kind of STDs?

Those can be lifelong, as well as a child.

Yeah, but we know we don't have any STDs.

I mean, I wasn't sleeping around, and I believe that

she wasn't sleeping around, so we weren’t scared about that.

You believe it, but you didn't know it.

I mean, aren't you a little bit

worried about your health and your safety?

Of course, of course. I agree.

It was irresponsible, but I don't know.

When you -- when you love somebody, you love somebody.

I'm pretty -- I'm pretty sure Stig was sleeping around

with other people. -[Shaun] Oh.

-[Laura and Emma] Whoa. -[Laura] Forrest.

I'm -- I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, he can say that, but he's -- he's a --

he's a player, man.

-[Rick] He's a superstar. -[Forrest] Yeah, he's a superstar.

He's got all those women around him all the time.

[Shaun] OK, well, before things went south with Aviva and Stig,

there was a time when it looked like this relationship was

going to last forever.

-Let's take a look back. -[gasps]

Oh, God.

I decided to take Aviva to the Mayan Ruins,

one of Belize's main attraction.

-That's huge. -Right?

That is so cool.

♪ I’m not sure ♪

[Stig speaking]

-[Aviva] Yes, let's do it. -[Stig] Let's go.

Maybe you should stop for real. I wanna tell you something.

Since the first time I met you, babe,

something just made me feel like you're the one for real,

and I wanna be with you for the rest of my life.

-That's so sweet. -[Stig] So babe.

-Will you marry me? -Yes.

She said, "Yes!"

♪ Oh-oh-oh-oh ♪

That's so sweet.

[Stig speaking]

[Shaun] Wow.

Aviva, what were you thinking watching that back?

It brought you to tears.

Just I don't know.

I wanted it to work out so bad, I think.

So yeah, it's hard to see.

Stig, when you see Aviva so emotional watching that clip,

how does that make you feel?

And, you know, I had all intentions to start a family

with her, it was genuine.

But now the engagement is broken off.

-Yeah. -How did we get to this point?

Um, when I got home,

our relationship turned really toxic.

There was a lot of trust issues, and honestly,

Stig, you were [bleep] mean to me.

Why was I mean to you, though?

Why did I get so triggered that I wanted to break up with you?

Why was I like that?

-Jesus. -[Stig] Tell me why.

Look at me right now and say that you didn't cheat.

I'm like, "Aviva, I hear guys in the background.

Where are you?" She hangs up,

and she stopped answering my calls.

He would go out every [bleep] night and not answer me,

and that's OK?

He was freaking the [bleep],

"[bleep] you, [bleep] you bitch!"

You drove me insane!

So it's all Aviva? It's all her?

Look at me right now and say that you didn't cheat.

I didn't ever [bleep] cheat on you.

[Shaun] OK, wait.

Stig says you cheated, Aviva.

You say you didn't. How did he get that impression?

Well, I was in Belize right after all the Aunt Spring drama.

Somebody texted me and said, "That guy is never gonna love

you like --like I would."

And then I replied and I said, "Yeah, you're right."

'Cause that's how I felt in that moment.

And he went through my phone and he saw that.

And that's as far as it went. And so, yeah, absolutely.

I replied to that text.

I shouldn't have, especially being in Belize.

That was very disrespectful of me, but.

...got caught talking to other men.

-No. -Multiple times.

I'm not gonna ever be OK with being in a relationship,

especially engaged to somebody, and you're hanging

around guys. -I'm not.

I wasn't hanging around guys.

Stig, what are you talking about when you say she was

hanging around guys? What do you mean?

[Stig] Multiple times.

Like, one time, Aviva told me that she wanted to go

to Mexico for the weekend.

She said, "I'm gonna go to an all-inclusive resort.

I'm gonna go to the pool, read a book, have a good time."

-Cool. -Mm-hmm.

I get that she's trying to have a good day, I'm busy, too.

But she's barely answering me. Any at all.

-Boom, I go on Instagram -- -Sucks, doesn't it?

[Stig] Go on Instagram.

And Aviva is at a pool party.

And her best friend posted a video.

And they're obviously in a section

with a bunch of guys.

I call Aviva. She answers.

I'm like, "Aviva, I hear guys in the background.

Where are you?" She's like, "No."

I'm like, "Show me." She hangs up.

And she stopped answering my calls.

And I told her, "I don't wanna be with you.

I'm done with this."

[Aviva] I was at a [bleep] party.

He would go out every [bleep] night

and not answer me, and that's OK.

And I was supposed to believe you.

And then the one time I go to a pool party,

it's a huge [bleep] deal.

Like, why were you allowed to do

whatever the [bleep] you wanted

but I couldn't even look out the window without it

being a [bleep] problem?

I went to dinner with my coworker, who's a female,

and he's freaking the [bleep],

"[bleep] you, [bleep] you, bitch.

What the [bleep]? Why aren't you responding, blah, blah."

And sorry, I'm sorry, but that's how you'd

talk to me, I know you wanna defend yourself. -[Stig] I do not talk

to you like that. -But that's how you speak to me.

That point -- at that point, I did not talk to you like that.

-I remember -- -You shouldn't say those things to her at all.

-Ever. -[Forrest] Never.

For going to dinner?

While I was at dinner with a friend and you were saying

"[bleep] this, [bleep] you," where were you?

You were at a bar!

So make it make sense.

Your double standards don't make sense, and it drove me

insane every day. -'Cause you drove me insane.

When you were out, I was thinking the worst.

All I've heard is that Aviva's a cheater,

but nothing from you.

You know? Where -- where's your --

where's your defense that you weren't meeting up with

other women? -Yeah, so it's all Aviva?

It's all her?

Honestly, Stig, me and Aviva have become really good friends.

She told me everything that happened when she got back from

Belize, how you treated her, how you disrespected her,

how you're controlling.

And honestly, I think she's way too good for you, and you were

a real piece of [bleep] to her.

Well, I don't agree with you, so that's that.

Alright, there are two people in Aviva's life who had

a lot of thoughts on Stig and Aviva's relationship.

Please welcome Aviva's aunt, Spring, and Corinth.

-Hi, ladies, how are you? -Hi.

Spring, as you look back on Aviva and Stig's relationship,

how do you feel about it today?

When I had left Belize, I was actually totally supportive

of the situation, but then I've been getting messages about

who he's been messing with down there.

Oh, pff.

[Spring] So the girl from the video,

you were with her.

-[Aviva] Yeah, so -- -I was with her?

Yes, he filmed a -- he filmed music video with a girl,

and he went ghost on me

after the music video. Like, what the [bleep]?

Like, how am I supposed to know that you didn't do [bleep]?

That did not happen.

From what I can see, you know,

there's a lot of accusations flying around with no real

solid proof, right? -[Elise and Annalyn] Yeah.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Stig, you can't keep saying that this one is a fan or this one

knows you, this one just want clout off of you.

I'm trying to figure out if you're the one trying to get

clout off of Aviva.

Are you trying to move to the States so you get better

music opportunities through Aviva because you're

in the States?

Corinth really questions Stig's commitment to Aviva.

And in this never-before-seen interview, she gives us

her reason for not trusting him.

I think that Aviva is probably

blindsided by love or something.

Like, she is just too deep in the blue hole that she's not

actually seeing what he's doing.

He is just around. He's been around.

He has a Spanish girl.

He has girls pregnant all around.

He needs to focus.

Yes, he does.

I know for a fact that he has more than one girl pregnant

right now. -Oh.

Oh, my gosh.

-[Shaun] OK. -What?

[Shaun] So Stig, Corinth just said that you have more than one

girl pregnant. Is there any truth to that?

How do you think that went with Molly and Forrest?

-I think it's a cluster [bleep], I, like -- -[Laura speaking]

The more I listened, the more I think

Sheena is a liar.

You guys are seeing exactly why I've questioned everything.

I hope she's telling the truth, Forrest.

She's hiding something.

OK, Stig, Corinth just said that

you have more than one girl pregnant.

No.

No.

-That is an out-and-out lie. -Yeah.

Everything he says is a lie.

You know, Belize is a small country, and people talk.

How I found out about it is because he was messing

with my friend, and he told my friend about the girl.

And he also said that there

could be another girl that was pregnant.

And there were also rumors that he already currently

had a child already.

-[Shaun] Stig? -But can I -- can I -- can I say something?

[Shaun] Yeah, go ahead, Stig, go ahead.

Listen, bro, I did not grow up with my dad, right?

I can't wait till the day I become a dad, 'cause I wanna

be the best dad that I could possibly be.

So no, if I was a dad, I would have been the best father

that I could ever be.

So don't be playing with my name like that.

Aviva, do you believe Stig or Corinth?

I don't know.

I -- I think if he had a kid, we would know.

Do I believe he was maybe messing with a girl?

Yes.

But do I believe that he has a kid?

No.

OK, Aunt Spring and Corinth, thank you for taking the time

to speak with us today. We really appreciate it.

Yeah, thank you. Love you, niece.

-Love you. -[Corinth] Love you, Aviva.

-[Spring] Bye. -[Shaun] Alright.

Well, Aviva and Stig, we're sorry that you weren't

able to work things out.

Best wishes for the future to both of you.

OK, everybody.

That was tough, but let's take a quick break

and I'll see you back here shortly.

[sighs]

I take accountability for it.

Then he doesn't take any. Like, I don't understand.

-Do I not take accountability? -Yes.

He didn't own up to, like, literally anything.

[Emma] You did amazing.

[Rick] You did good.

I really wanted to, you know, throw myself at -- at Stig.

I think he's full-on lying the entire time

about everything with Aviva.

Yeah, I think it's near impossible to be a faithful

rap star. -Nah.

You know, 'cause you're gonna have women throwing

themselves at you, all in your DMs.

You know what? I've decided.

I'm gonna become a famous rap star.

[laughing]

Thank you.

How do you think that went with Molly and Forrest?

-I think it's a cluster [bleep] I, like -- -[Laura speaking]

I just, like, I don't think

Sheena's being completely honest.

And I think that Molly attacking Sheena makes Sheena

more prone to lie a little bit more.

I do not see her coming to the States.

The more I listened, the more I think Sheena

is a liar. And poor Forrest.

I just wanna give him a hug and be like,

"That [bleep] sucks."

Hey.

-[Forrest] Hey, Mom. -Wait a minute.

You did so good. I'm so proud of you.

But I hope she's telling the truth, Forrest.

-Hey, hello, how are you doing? -Hi, Forrest.

-I'm gonna interrupt you. -Go for it.

I wanna talk to Molly.

Molly, I'm sorry I was so against you.

I came here ready to scream and yell and stomp my feet

and tell you what a bad mom you are, but you're not, you're not.

I didn't understand how you were coming after Sheena.

And then all of a sudden, I started watching,

and I started seeing things, and she's hiding something.

[Molly] Thank you.

Yeah, you guys are seeing exactly why

I've questioned everything.

Yes, and you and Sheena are so perfect together, and I love

the love that you have, and it's genuine,

and it's true, and I see it going forever.

But just make sure you get all that information.

Oh, my God. What do I do?

Lisa just got -- getting closer.

And my mom just kept getting closer.

I'm like, I felt like I was kind of pushed into a corner,

but has not really put a damper on how I feel about Sheena.

I'm nosy, Forrest.

-[Forrest] I'll see you later, Mom. -[Molly] OK.

-I love you, son. -I love you, alright, bye.

-Thank you, thank you. -[producer] Quiet, please.

Lighting up. Three, two.

[Shaun] Alright, Elise and Joshua, it is your turn.

Elise's trip to Australia was a mixed bag of good times

and the issues they confronted along the way.

Let's find out the details

of what has happened since we last saw them.

Elise and Joshua, shall we get moving?

-Let's do it. -[Shaun] Alright.

We know about the breakup, but we also know

about the reconciliation. How did it happen?

We had a really bad last night together because everything

in his life at the time was a question mark.

Yeah, you know, Elise said, you know, she wasn't ready

to settle, and then she got on an airplane.

But, like, I sort of realized that she was, you know,

she's definitely worth fighting for, and, you know,

what she wanted I could do, and I bit the bullet and,

you know, and reached out and just sort of said,

"You know, I wanna make it work."

[Elise] He has changed

and made so much effort. Like...

I've never seen before. -Wow.

[Elise] He got a new job, a better job with a salary.

He stopped partying. We share locations.

He's not living with the girl Nat anymore.

Every question mark that I had leaving Australia, I now have

an answer to. He's like, "I love you.

"I can't lose you. I'm gonna make it right.

I'm gonna do what it takes." And I was like,

I love you too. I miss you too."

[Shaun] Wait, so you finally said

"I love you" back? -Yeah.

[gasps]

And then he spent two and a half weeks

in Miami with me. -And how did it go?

Amazing.

[Joshua] Yeah, it went amazing.

We got tattoos of each other's names.

-You did? -[Shaun] You did? Where are they, can I see?

Babe, show yours.

-[Shaun] OK. -[Laura] Wow.

-And mine is -- -[Shaun] Can you help her, Forrest?

-[Elise] Thank you, Forrest. -[Forrest] Yeah, no problem.

[Shaun] Thank you.

[Forrest] Good job, Josh. I'm proud of you.

-[Laura] So cute. -[Lisa] I love this.

[Shaun] Very sweet, OK.

Elise struggled with how much it felt like Joshua's friend Chris

was a third wheel in their relationship.

So it's only fitting that we have Chris here to join

the conversation now.

-Hi there. -[Chris chuckles]

-[Elise] Hi, hi. -[Chris] Hello, Josh, Elise.

[Shaun] Thank you so much for joining us.

Elise, you were surprised at how much Chris was involved

in Joshua's life. Do you think they're too close?

I mean, like, yeah, was it weird that Chris picked me up

at the airport with Josh? Yeah, it's [bleep] weird.

Yeah, when I'm getting [bleep] by Josh in bed,

is your picture above my bed? Yeah, that's weird.

-[Lisa] Look, he's loving it, he’s laughing, he loves it. -[Laura] Yeah, no, that's weird.

I mean, where I'm from, like, it's not normal for two

dudes that are grown-ass men to live together.

Or have portraits of each other.

[Elise] Or have portraits of each other.

[Shaun] Well, Chris, we saw Elise make some demands the night that

she settled into the rental.

Do you think that she has

standards that are actually too high?

She's high-maintenance, but, I mean, we saw

that coming. It was to be expected.

High-maintenance?

We didn't have a [bleep] toilet that worked.

[Joshua] What, it didn't flush?

No, it, like, you couldn't even sit on it.

-Oh, it wobbled a bit. -[Elise] Yeah, it did.

-Thanks, Chris. -[Forrest] Wow.

[Lisa] Elise, you know how I told you when we first met,

I was like, "I don't like you." -[Elise] Yeah.

[Lisa] And the reason why I didn't like you was because

your standards were so high.

-What [bleep] standards? -[Lisa] And you intimidate -- you intimidated me.

But I think when you went there, you called it a --

a third-world country. -[Elise] I did.

[Lisa] And I'm sitting there -- I'm sitting there thinking,

what is wrong with you? I went to Nigeria,

and I didn't even have a toilet seat to sit on -- you're squatting.

I just thought, you know, this person is

high-maintenance, like Josh said.

OK, alright, now that you two are back together,

Elise, let me ask you, are you confident

that Josh will be able to contribute

financially to this relationship in the future?

I mean, that is a huge worry of mine.

But actually, Josh, tell them what you just did the other day.

-What did I do the other day? -Really?

Oh, uh, I bought you a ticket to Australia.

[Elise] So he bought me a ticket to Australia.

-Oh, that's awesome! -And I am going, like, one way.

-Just one way? -Yeah, crazy.

-[Aviva] Wow! -Oh, wow.

He's moving out of Sydney closer to be with his son.

-[Shaun] OK. -[Elise] So I'm gonna be staying with him.

And then we'll see.

Are you moving over here for good, Elise?

Chris, I have a one-way ticket.

Yeah, but I thought that was

just 'cause you didn't know when you were going home.

Are you actually coming over here to stay permanently

with Josh? -Oh.

[tense music playing]

Oh.

Josh?

[Shaun] So Nat, you called Elise a psycho.

Do you stand by those words today?

It was warranted. The behavior was erratic.

Girl, come on.

[Elise] Josh, you're pretty quiet.

[Shaun] So Josh, is Elise moving there permanently?

Oh, absolutely. Like, that's the plan.

Oh, that's awesome.

That means I'm gonna come up and visit you every two weeks.

I just need to find a girl to bring,

so I'm not third-wheeling. -Chris, I'll come with you.

You what? Who said that?

-Me. -Oh, she can come, yeah.

Josh, fly her in to you, too.

[Shaun] OK, Elise, you sound excited to go back to Australia,

but your first trip didn't go that smoothly.

And things really went south when Elise discovered

who Joshua was living with. Please welcome his friend Nat.

-Hi. -[Elise] Hi.

Nat, what do you have to say to people who think that

you and Josh have too close of a relationship?

I couldn't really care less, to be honest.

I've got a lot of guy friends.

I've got a lot of friends in general.

But I see Josh as a brother. You know,

I went through a pretty rough time last year.

And he was there for me as I was there for him, so...

[Shaun] So Elise, your issue

was that he lied in the beginning.

-About a lot. -[Shaun] Yeah.

-Nat, do you think that Josh misled Elise in any way? -[Elise] Yeah.

No.

Girl, come on.

[Shaun] OK, well, when Elise found out that Josh was living with Nat

instead of his parents,

she did not hold back her feelings.

Take a look.

[Elise] I don't wanna [bleep] think of my man living with another girl.

Do you want me to go ask every single person here?

-[Nat] No, no, no. -[Elise] 'Cause I will.

[Joshua] I wouldn't, it'd be embarrassing to you.

-[Nat] Yeah. -I don't give a [bleep].

Hey guys, let me ask you guys

all a [bleep] question. Am I crazy...

-Go Elise. -...or is my guy living with a girl and getting financially

[bleep] supported crazy?

[woman speaking]

[Elise] No, he [bleep] lied to me.

[Elise] Thank you.

-Do you feel crazy now? -[Elise] I could be.

-Like... -[Elise] Yeah, but I'm -- I'm --

I'm having two against one. -[Joshua] You’re telling half the story.

-What the [bleep] am I supposed to do? -[Nat] You're not --

[Elise] So give us your story, you're here.

[Nat speaking]

-[Laura] Oh. -[Shaun] Whoa, OK.

I’m happy I wasn't there, you know.

[Shaun] OK, so Nat, you called Elise a psycho.

Yes.

Do you stand by those words today?

I stand by the psycho word, and I'm laughing now because

You -- you stood by calling her psycho?

Yeah. The behavior was erratic.

So at the time, it was warranted.

[Elise] Josh, you're pretty quiet. So why don't you speak?

You know, I felt like the bigger issue was that

you were, you know, you were a bit jealous

of our relationship, and I have -- I have apologized --

Well, it started off in the wrong foot, getting lied to.

So therefore, of course I'm gonna feel uncomfortable.

-Would you guys feel that way? -I would, 100%.

-I’d feel uncomfortable. -Yeah, I would.

Elise, Elise, you have every reason.

-[Emma] You didn't feel secure. -You have every right to be angry.

I think if I found out that my guy was living with a girl,

like, I would have acted the same way.

Thank you.

Especially after he lied about it.

[Emma] Yeah.

And that's funny that, like, he would make fun of me

for feeling insecure about this.

Like, you're [bleep] joking that I'm insecure about this.

-Mm-hmm. -[Elise] And yes,

they did have an emotional connection.

Every given [bleep] second they were texting each other,

and calling each other. -[Joshua] Can you let me speak?

-[Elise] Yeah. -I didn't -- I didn't waver from you, you were my priority.

No, you didn't, you left me three or four different times while I was in Australia

to go run back to Nat. -But I’m also being there for a friend, she was going

through a really tough time. She was going through a really tough time.

But you -- you obviously think --

Yes, she was, but I was over there visiting you.

I was hysterical at one point, though.

So you know, maybe just take

a bit of consideration for that.

[Laura] Is Josh the only person you know that could

give you support?

No, I have a lot of friends, so, but if -- if...

That's great, and maybe one of those friends should have been

the person you leaned on.

Alright, let's go back to the finances.

-When Josh came to visit you in Miami, -Yep.

who paid for things?

I did, mostly.

-No, that's -- that's not true at all. -OK, Josh.

Three sets of flights, dinner, you know.

Josh, you paid for my birthday dinner in Key West.

That was it.

[Joshua speaking]

Josh, I wasn't doubting you, I was answering a question.

I know my father’s concerns are very valid.

What are those?

I've been used in the past, and, like,

my dad's money is not money that I can spend on Josh and I.

Like, it's my dad's money, and, like...

I fell for you before I even knew about your family history.

[Elise] Very true.

[Shaun] So Elise, explain something.

How much do you depend on your father's support?

[scoffs] I mean,

not that much anymore, but my dad supports me.

Like sometimes I just, you know, write myself a check

from my trust fund every month and call it a day.

-OK, OK, listen, listen. -[Rick] Right.

-[Emma] Damn. -[Shaun] So you are a trust fund baby?

-If you want to say it like that, kind of. -[Shaun] OK.

It's like to take care of myself for the rest of my life

along with the children that I'll have.

-Like since you were born? -[Elise] Yeah.

Damn.

That's -- that's great.

I -- I'm happy. I -- I don't want it.

It's not mine. I didn't earn it.

-I don't deserve it. -[Laura] Hearing this about Elise

is absolutely mind-blowing to me that Josh's friends would

have the audacity to say that she's not good enough for him.

Laura, that's not fair.

You're basing it on money?

Yeah, you can't base it on money.

No, I'm not basing that solely on money, but Elise has

everything going for her and Josh is the one not stable,

living in different places.

And she's willing to give that up and move to Australia.

There's no way that she's not good enough for him.

And once again, your father has talked to you about

his concerns about Josh and finances.

What has your father said?

That, like...

That, like, I can't be stupid.

And, like, he's not getting me out of trouble again.

And, like, Josh doesn't want to take my family's money.

That -- he -- that's not what he wants.

But, yeah, my dad does have concerns,

and my dad's concerns are valid.

My dad has a financial chokehold on me.

Like, I have to do everything

right in my dad's eyes to keep the money.

At least you're not losing your trust fund moving across

the world, though, are you? -I hope to [bleep] God not.

Would you be willing to give that up to be with Josh?

-[Elise] Ooh. -Ooh.

Oh, God.

[Shaun] Elise?

[tense music plays]

Trish, once again, congratulations

on your pregnancy. -[Trisha] Thank you.

So we're all wondering, if Rick is not

the father, who is? Your ex?

Um.

OK, Elise, it seems like you don't want to answer.

If you had to choose, would you pick Josh

or your trust fund?

[inhales]

Baby, I love you.

No way, I'd take a trust fund over Josh any day.

I don't care about -- that's her money.

I will make my own.

I made a decision to make my life better and I think

I've made big steps in doing that, you know?

I agree, but what I don't like is that I didn't hear

you defend Elise when they're kind of going back and saying,

"Yeah, that was psycho in that moment."

-[Joshua] I did defend Elise. -No, you didn't.

Well, you're going to Australia.

Yeah, I'm nervous, but, yeah, I'm excited.

-I'm super excited. -[Shaun] Well, good.

Well, we certainly wish you guys the very best.

It was a rocky road for a minute, but it seems like

you guys are working things out, so...

Thank you so much.

Chris and Nat, we would have felt like a piece of Josh was

missing if you had not been here today.

So thank you so much for taking part.

Thank you for having us.

OK, everybody, quick break.

[indistinct background chatter]

Ugh.

I'm kind of disappointed in myself that I didn't really

say all the things I needed to say, because, like,

I was scared of hurting Josh.

But I felt like he had Nat's side more than mine.

It was, like, weird. She's calling me psychotic.

He's just like, "Yeah, that was psychotic."

I was expecting more, way more.

So I texted Josh, and I was like, "I'm glad you really

didn't defend me when Nat called me a psycho."

He was like, "You made me feel tiny

in front of everyone again."

-[Laura] Tiny? -"I'm glad you chose your trust fund over me."

-[gasps] When did you? -[Rick] You never answered that.

[Elise] I didn't even answer that, right?

-When -- -[Elise] That's what I thought.

-I didn't answer that. -Right, no, you never did.

[Laura] 'Cause I will choose your trust fund over Josh.

I mean, I would choose it over Birkan.

-Uh-oh. -[Laura laughs]

[Rick speaking]

[Laura] Oh, yeah -- no, don't.

[Rick] I -- I feel like they're on the right path,

Elise and Joshua.

He made a lot of promises, and he stepped up.

But she seems to be like a nitpicker, looking for any

little thing to be wrong

'cause she doesn't know what she wants to do.

Hey, we're a go. Three, two...

Well, it is time to put Rick and Trisha in the hot seat.

Trish, once again, congratulations

on your pregnancy. -[Trisha] Thank you.

I can tell you are very happy.

I'm happy I got baby.

So Rick, you are not the father of Trisha's baby.

No, I'm not.

[Shaun] Gosh, this story.

So we're all wondering, Trish, if Rick is not

the father, who is?

Is it your ex?

[Trisha] No.

It's someone that I met two months after Rick...

on vacation and work trip.

But we stay in touch for the baby.

[Shaun] OK.

Rick, have you dated anyone since the breakup?

My guess would be yes.

-Of course. -Yes, I have.

[Shaun] You have? OK.

[Rick] You know, Trish broke up with me in Madagascar.

And, um...

I was sitting in the hotel room alone.

So instead of sitting there feeling sorry for myself,

-I went out to a bar. -[Shaun] Mm-hmm.

What better way to recover from heartbreak?

[Rick] Before I could even go inside of the bar,

I saw a beautiful young lady eating chicken.

It looked good, and I asked her,

“Hey, that, that fried chicken looks good.”

-Smelled good, looked good. -"Could I get a taste of that?"

I bet that was the question. What did you take a bite of?

Oh, you're talking about just the chicken.

That came later.

And how long was this after

Trish broke up with you?

It was not the night of the day that she broke up

with me -- it was the next night.

Oh, my God.

Damn, Rick knocking them down, bruh.

[Shaun] You broke up

and then the next night, you were with someone else.

Yes.

And how soon did you two have sex?

-[Elise] Oh, no. -Jeez.

There is something that I've been, like, upset about

with the whole Rob stuff.

I found out, like, you tried to hook up with him.

I feel like I don't know who I can, like, trust.

You're pointing a finger at me when I didn't do

anything [bleep] wrong. That guy's not your boyfriend.

Don't get me mad and attack me!

Alright, Rick, let me get this straight.

In the brief time after you and Trish broke up and before

you said goodbye at the airport,

you met another woman and had sex.

Ooh.

Come on, if you really love someone, you're not about to go

[bleep] another girl the next night. -[Rick] But it wasn't a break.

She said that there was no chance of us

getting back together.

But didn't you say you wanted to work on it?

Yes, Laura.

To me, that doesn't make me feel like you're trying to fix

it with me if you're sleeping with someone else.

[Trisha] Totally right, Rick.

You should have been honest to me, like, oh,

I already have someone, Trish.

You shouldn't have giving me,

and you even kissed me at the airport.

-Mm-hmm. -Like, "Oh, Trisha, we will work on this relationship."

-Trish, I still... -And when I got there, and -- and I --

and I told you, like, "OK, I'm not

promising you anything, but, OK, we will work on it." -Right, right.

[Shaun] OK, Rick, and you continued to have a relationship

with this woman after you left Madagascar?

Yes.

So how long was that relationship?

[Rick] Um...

-Five months. -[Shaun] Five months.

We just broke up a couple months ago.

And during that five-month period,

were you talking to Trisha?

Yeah, two weeks after he got back to United States,

we still talking. -So Trish was the ex?

But I was completely honest with her.

This woman was from Madagascar?

From Madagascar.

[Shaun] OK, did you go back over and visit her?

No, but we took a trip to Hong Kong.

Oh, OK. So you guys were on a trip.

Which is supposed to be my birthday trip.

-Which was -- yes. -Wait a minute, what?

-What? -Ouch.

So you guys planned the trip to Hong Kong together?

You know, before Rick left my country, we were talking,

like, "On your birthday, we are going to Hong Kong

"and have fun and go to Disneyland

and something like that."

And I found out later that he went with the girl.

[Shaun] Oh.

She was in Indonesia while I was in Hong Kong.

Trish, what were you doing in Indonesia?

I was with the guy, the baby daddy.

[Laura] OK.

-Oh. -OK, so it's not like as bad.

OK, who here thinks Rick moves on really fast?

-Let me see the show of hands. -I love Rick's honesty.

-[Jovon] Rick. -I do, I raise two hands.

You my boy, man.

-But that was pretty quick, man. -Yes.

I worry about you guys. Like, why?

-Like. -I have a fear of being alone.

Then get married!

I'm trying to find my wife,

and I thought I found her in Trish.

-Oh. -You lied to her.

She could have been your wife.

-You know? -She wanted to be.

[Rick] That's true.

That's -- that's why I know I made a big mistake.

[Shaun] Speaking of big mistakes, let's talk about one Rick made

in the bedroom.

There was something Rick brought along with him

to Madagascar that may have caught viewers off guard.

Let's look back at that awkward exchange.

Oh, my God.

Hey, what are you doing?

[Trisha speaking]

Trish let me know that she's a [bleep], you know,

a female ejaculator.

Oh.

What? Oh, my God, so.

[Rick speaking]

-I think that's hilarious. -[Annalyn] Oh, my god!

-A giant slip and slide. -[Shaun] OK.

Has anyone else ever heard of the splash pad?

-Never. -[Shaun] No?

-[Emma] No. -No.

-I am a vanilla, so I don't. -[Rick] He's -- he's vanilla.

No, I'm not vanilla.

I'm dark chocolate when it comes to that.

So is this something that you travel with?

-Rick? -[Rick] Um...

Like, did you take it when you went

to see your other friends? -Oh, no.

[Laura] Was it brand new?

You did not reuse it, Rick, please.

Or was it reused?

-[Elise] He's... -[Shaun] Oh, Rick.

I mean, we reuse sheets, don't we? We put them

in the washing machine. -[all] Oh, God -- oh, my God.

-[all exclaiming] -[Forrest] Oh, no.

Yeah, he have used it with his ex.

[Shaun] Oh, Rick.

-Rick! -Nasty.

[Elise] Yup.

OK, so let's talk about this woman.

Rick went back to her after five days

of not hearing from Trish.

Does that seem abrupt?

[Aviva] Missing for five days, that's a little sketchy.

But you still shouldn't have gone as far as going all

the way to Colombia. -I admit to that.

I made a lot of mistakes with Trish,

but I didn't go at that time.

Oh, you didn't go in that five days?

I just booked it for a future date.

So when you went on that trip in a future date, were you back

to talking with Trish? -[Rick] Yeah.

We were back to talking.

But you still went on the trip?

Yes, exactly. We were talking back.

-That's really bad. -I was -- I was confused.

We hadn't met in person yet.

We hadn't consummated our relationship.

No, but after, you were lying on the bed with me when

you pick up her call and texting her, like,

"Oh, the great time I had was with you.

I miss you, baby."

Because I didn't want her to keep calling.

You could have just declined or not answering the call.

-You don't care. -I -- I was. That's what I did at first.

I declined like five calls.

But you did, you did. You answered the call.

And then -- and then she didn't stop until I -- until I texted her.

Why would you care? So why would you care?

She's your ex, though, and we were lying

in the same bed.

Am I the only person in the that's had feelings

with multiple people at once? -No, he's not the first guy.

-He's not the first person. -No, hell no.

So Rick, when was the last time you talked

to your Colombian ex?

Um...

I haven't talked to her for months.

OK.

And have you and Trisha had any conversations about

getting back together?

Yes, we have.

We've talked about future plans.

Now you're willing to take care of someone

else's baby. -That's a lot.

Yeah, right now we have a baby involved.

Are you gonna 100% be dedicated and take care

of her and this baby as your own? -I -- I can.

I'm -- I'm waiting on Trisha's decision about

whether or not she'll allow me to go see her again.

Ooh.

Trisha, how do you feel about that?

Do you want him to come?

[Trisha] Hmm.

By all means, I would -- if I was Trish, I would never accept you back.

You'd be blocked on my phone, and I would literally tell

you to go [bleep] off. -[Emma] I would take him back.

[Shaun] And why is that, Emma?

He's acknowledged all of his mistakes, and even though

he has that he's not proud of, he really does love Trish.

Woman to woman, I wouldn't.

Just because some people, they have this pattern,

they keep doing it like an addiction.

He's weak in the flesh.

There's this itchiness that he needs to scratch.

OK, who thinks there is a future for this relationship?

You gotta put in a lot of work.

I believe in my boy. I believe in you, Rick.

[Rick] I think there's a very good chance that Trish

will take me back.

I'm not gonna lie, I have feelings for him,

but I'm not ready to put him in my life.

...and I'm really happy, and I don't want anyone

to change how I feel right now.

[Shaun] OK.

What a rollercoaster this has been for you both.

We wish you luck with everything, and Trisha,

please take care during your pregnancy.

-Congratulations once again. -Thank you so much.

Well, that is all the time we have on "Before the 90 Days,"

the Couples Tell All.

-Bring out the tequila. -Whoo!

[Shaun] Alright, I wanna thank all of the couples

as well as their friends and families

for sharing their journeys with us.

-Such a queen. -Thank you.

-Thank you. -I'm Shaun Robinson.

Thank you so much for watching, and I'll see you next time.

Thank you.

Thank you. You're awesome.

You're amazing. I'm glad I got to meet you.

Bye-bye.

Yo, Rick, what's up, man?

Hey, Forrest, what you think, man?

-We're all done with this. -[Forrest] Man...

I thought today went really, really well.

I got your sparkles all over me, bro.

And you had so much stuff going on, man.

You're frickin' coming back around, and you're trying

your best to, you know, be a good man for Trish.

I just hope I get that opportunity to go back

to Madagascar and get on my hands and knees and show it.

♪♪

[Emma and Elise speaking]

You know, I know that we've become friends recently.

And, like, I really...

I really, like, value a friendship with you.

But there is something that I've been, like, upset about

with the whole Rob stuff. -OK.

'Cause, you know, obviously I told you about us hooking up

and, you know, everything that happened with me and him.

But then I found out, like, shortly after I told you,

you tried to hook up with him. -I tried to hook up with him?

-Mm-hmm. -[Elise] That's not true.

He, like, showed me.

And it was multiple screenshots.

[Elise] OK, then call him. Get a screenshot.

[Emma] I can, but I'm just --

I'd rather, like, talk to you about it because I thought

we were, like, building a friendship.

And it's just, like, it's just something that

bothered me when I heard that,

that you were trying to hook up with him.

I wasn't trying to hook up with him, so I don't know why

he's telling you that.

I promise you I wasn't trying to hook up with him.

I was not.

I did talk to him at a party, like, a couple weeks ago,

like, about our past year and, like, how we're doing.

But after that conversation happened at the party,

he said that you were trying to hook up with him and you were

trying to Uber him to your hotel room.

That's not true.

And you were, like, saying, like, "Oh, I'm so sad

"that you can't come to my room.

Like, just come and cuddle with me."

OK, that's not true. And that's [bleep] crazy.

This is just so annoying.

So don't talk about it anymore.

No, because it's just so annoying.

[Elise] But --

This is just, like, a hard situation for me because

it's, like, I just, I feel like I don't know who I can,

like, trust. You know what I mean?

Like, I have this guy, like, yeah, we're just hooking up,

but I developed real feelings for him.

And when I met you, you know, like, I really cared

about a friendship with you, you know?

And then when I heard that right away, I'm just,

like, you know, it just feels like everyone's just [bleep] on me.

The vibe I'm getting from Emma right now seems fake and, like,

I don't care about Rob.

Like, do you just think you're that hot [bleep]?

Like, bitch, you're not.

This is actually some crazy [bleep] right here.

I think Josh probably slept with Emma.

Wait, what?

-Josh? -You think?

[both] You think Josh slept with Emma?

-[Forrest] Mm-hmm. -No way.

No, no, I don't think so.

I mean, why else would she be so, like,

angry about it?

Hold on. I wanna hear.

Like, I'm sorry you're hurt, but that's just

inaccurate information. The guy [bleep] is known to be a [bleep] liar.

I don't want him.

I have a boyfriend.

The last thing I want is a [bleep] short man.

I'm sorry you're hurt, and I'm sorry you heard wrong.

I don't know what else to say.

I also didn't bring up at all any of this talk, 'cause

I knew you didn't wanna talk about it, and I've respected

you about that. -[Emma] I understand that.

I don't know what point you're trying to make.

So I think it's very weird that you're trying to play this,

like, sad cry girl.

"Like, poor me. I'm the victim."

You're pointing a finger at me when I didn't do

anything [bleep] wrong. I'm not [bleep] Rob. -Don’t, don't raise your voice.

-Girl, I'm not taking blame for something I didn't do. -[Emma] Don't raise --

-I didn't do [bleep]. -[Emma] Don't raise your -- don't raise your voice at me.

But I didn't do [bleep] [bleep].

-Don't -- don't raise -- -Don't get me mad and attack me.

-Don't -- I -- I'm attacking you? -That guy's not your boyfriend.

He's [bleep] able to do whatever the [bleep] he wants.

-[Elise] I didn't do [bleep]. -[Emma] Don't raise your voice at me.

But I didn't do [bleep] [bleep]. Don't get me mad and attack me.

-I'm attacking you? -That guy's not your boyfriend.

-He's [bleep] able to do whatever the [bleep] he wants. -[Emma] I'm attacking you?

You're hooking up with other guys, who the [bleep] cares?

-[Emma] I'm attacking you? -[Aviva] You OK?

Yeah, I'm fine.

You know today when you're with Stig and you're getting

blamed for something you didn't do?

-That's how I feel right now. -Elise, but I'm asking you.

-I'm not. -[Elise] But I'm telling you the answer.

-[Emma] I'm not -- -And how many other times -- are you leaving?

[Forrest] Yeah, I was getting ready to go.

And I heard you guys chatting it up.

-And I just thought I would -- hi. -[Elise] Come in.

[Forrest] I'm not trying to make

it a party, it's just.

So how do you wanna end this conversation?

'Cause I didn't do that.

And I'm not gonna get blamed for something I didn't do.

-And I didn't do it. -I didn't blame you.

Did I come and say, "Hey, Elise, you're a whore.

You did this?" No, I didn't.

[Forrest] I just wanted to say goodnight to you.

[Elise] Oh, amazing.

-[Forrest] I promise I would say goodnight to you. -Bye, Forrest.

You know, I'm sorry [bleep] going down.

-Can I say goodnight to you? -[Elise and Aviva] Yes.

-[Aviva] I just wanted to say -- -[Forrest] I -- it was -- I had such a fun time meeting you.

-[Elise] Oh, it was so nice meeting you. -[Forrest] And I just wanna

thank you for everything and I'm glad that you and Josh are together and work out.

[Elise speaking]

I don't know 100% what's going on.

And so I'm like, "Oh, my God, OK, fine, I'm just gonna

end this right now. I'll just get back home."

So, uh, that's some crazy-ass [bleep] going on here.

Well, it seems like something is going on with maybe like

a guy kind of named Rob.

I don't know what the [bleep] is going on, but hey,

we had a tell-all, we gotta tell all.

But I'm glad I'm totally in love,

and I'm getting the [bleep] out of here.

So leaving here, I'm finally

you know, getting my dreams and Sheena's dreams figured out

with the K-1 visa.

And I want Sheena here 10 billion percent.

Did I wanna confront you? No.

Because, yeah, is he my boyfriend?

No, he's not.

-[Laura] I just... -[Emma] It doesn't matter.

I know every single one of us in this little room tends

to say things we don't always mean when we get up to here.

-And we've been... -[Elise] I just wish this was, like --

We've been having each other's backs this entire tell-all.

Today was a lot.

I wasn't expecting to have such a heated exchange with Michal.

And I was shocked when Birkan

said he paid off that debt in full.

-It was so, so wonderful meeting you. -[Rick] OK, Laura, yeah, you --

yes, you too.

But our communication hasn't been super great,

this whole time.

To find out, like, he paid for the apartment

he's living with his parents in.

I don't understand why that never came out.

In a way, it makes me look at him a little bit differently,

and it creates more doubt.

I don't like that.

I feel a little bit bad because, like, I took

everything I had out on her when it really should have

been directed at Rob. I mean, he lied to her.

She did not do anything wrong, and she got the wrath of Elise,

and that was not appropriate.

[Rick] Bye, guys.

I don't think I made any grounds today with Trish.

I still believe that there is a chance.

It's just a matter of getting that invitation from her.

It's cold out here.

No, there's no one else in my life.

She's been encouraging me to go see other people

and not to wait on her.

I don't know how long I can wait.

She's really special to me, but...

life is lonely.

Stig's toxicity and the way he thinks

and his double standards are just,

like, not OK,

but I still have feelings for him, and I'm not gonna sit

there and deny it. Like...

-I love you. -[Emma] I'm gonna miss you.

[Aviva] I’m gonna miss you, too.

I'm not really in the mood to date right now.

I wish we just could have figured it out.

Sorry. God, I'm so emotional.

-I'm tired of crying. -[Emma] Alright, love you.

-OK, I love you. -[Emma] Alright, bye.

Bye.

I'm so ready to get home, take a warm shower

and forget about this.

I have so many questions for Joshua, and I don't know

where we stand.

Like, I'm genuinely wondering,

like, what he's feeling right now.

It wasn't like he was horrible to me.

We're not breaking up.

I just have done so much for this guy.

It's just a spit in the face, you know?

When you do contribute, and then you're being made out

to be like, you know, I didn't contribute anything.

You know, we all haven't had it served to us on a platter.

[Elise] He said, "I can't do this fighting.

"I wanna have kids with you.

"You're focusing on all the bull[bleep].

I do not wanna fight with you."

And now leaving here, I'm like,

[bleep], am I going back to Australia, going back

into the trap that we were in? Is this like going backwards?

Oh, my God, what a day!

It gave me PTSD to see Ziad again.

I did not like it.

We have nothing left to say.

I feel like I can leave here, and I got it all out there,

and we can finally move forward

and end this relationship for good.

Still haven't found the one.

I'm still not engaged, still not married, still not

in a relationship, so I'm ready to put myself

out there and start dating again.

[Elise] Hey, girl.

-[Emma] Hey. -[Elise] I'm gonna leave.

[Emma] Yeah, I think I'm gonna go, too.

[Elise] Alright, let's [bleep] go.

-Let's go. -Let's [bleep] go.

[Emma] What a day.

[indistinct background chatter]

[Lisa] I'm leaving as is. I don't give a [bleep].

I’m done, oh, God.

Bitch, it's over. That's all I gotta say.

It's over. I am so done.

I lost a love I thought I had,

but I don't have a master anymore.

I have a boyfriend. I have Ty.

I'm going back in a healthy way to live in Nigeria

with my new man.

So [bleep] Daniel, I may be going to his country,

but I'll never see him.

Let's get the hell out of here.

I have a curse to break.

I'm having this curse broken by a church, and I'm gonna be

cleansed and blessed and prayed over.

I'm looking forward to having the life I've always wanted.

Ty and I already have a honeymoon picked out,

and I'm not even engaged yet.

-Bye. -[producer speaking]

Thank you so much for everything.

It's a new day. It's a new me.