1 00:00:01,482 --> 00:00:03,793 [Shaun] Previously on "90 Day Fiancé, Before the 90 Days" 2 00:00:03,965 --> 00:00:05,517 the Couples Tell All... 3 00:00:05,689 --> 00:00:07,103 Should we just all compare boobs? 4 00:00:07,275 --> 00:00:08,620 -Grab them. -Don't look, Forrest. 5 00:00:08,793 --> 00:00:09,724 OK -- no, Sheena's gonna see me. 6 00:00:09,896 --> 00:00:11,172 I'm gonna get in trouble here. 7 00:00:11,344 --> 00:00:12,448 Defend me, Rick. 8 00:00:13,793 --> 00:00:17,310 Emma and Ziad, have either of you started dating 9 00:00:17,482 --> 00:00:20,517 other people? -I've been actively dating. 10 00:00:20,689 --> 00:00:23,103 Just some, you know, flings and hookups. 11 00:00:24,172 --> 00:00:27,275 A few months ago, Emma reached out to me on social media, 12 00:00:27,448 --> 00:00:30,379 and she's like, "I just wanna let you know that Rob and I 13 00:00:30,551 --> 00:00:32,619 have been hooking up for, like, this past year." 14 00:00:33,827 --> 00:00:36,103 Rob is completely out of my life. 15 00:00:36,275 --> 00:00:37,620 Who the [bleep] cares that they hooked up? 16 00:00:39,379 --> 00:00:43,172 -Trisha, you have a big update. -[Trisha] Yes. 17 00:00:44,827 --> 00:00:46,310 -[Laura] Oh, my God. -[Jovon] Oh! 18 00:00:46,482 --> 00:00:47,827 -Oh, my God. -[Sheena] Wow. 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,275 -[Trisha] I am six months pregnant. -Rick, are you the dad? 20 00:00:53,517 --> 00:00:55,103 Damn. 21 00:00:56,482 --> 00:00:57,793 Oh. 22 00:00:57,965 --> 00:01:01,793 I'm more father than you will ever be in your [bleep] life, 23 00:01:01,965 --> 00:01:03,206 you piece of [bleep]. 24 00:01:05,102 --> 00:01:07,413 And Forrest, did you tell Sheena that Emma was flirting 25 00:01:07,586 --> 00:01:08,896 with you? -Of course I did. 26 00:01:09,034 --> 00:01:10,034 [Shaun] And what did she say? 27 00:01:10,034 --> 00:01:13,103 "I'm gonna rip that fake bitch's lips off." 28 00:01:13,275 --> 00:01:15,172 [Laura] Damn. 29 00:01:17,172 --> 00:01:18,724 -You’re lying. -[Shaun] Sheena! 30 00:01:18,896 --> 00:01:21,689 -Oh, no, no. -I didn't know you had this side to you. 31 00:01:21,862 --> 00:01:24,413 -Oh, no! -Is that another lie, Sheena? 32 00:01:25,896 --> 00:01:27,827 Daniel and I are no longer engaged. 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 [Daniel speaking] 34 00:01:30,275 --> 00:01:31,689 What? 35 00:01:31,862 --> 00:01:32,793 You tricked me! 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,206 What? 37 00:01:35,206 --> 00:01:38,413 We went for a cleansing, and he said that was a wedding. 38 00:01:38,586 --> 00:01:40,275 A wedding that I didn't know about. 39 00:01:40,448 --> 00:01:42,000 -Ooh. -Ah! 40 00:01:42,137 --> 00:01:44,827 -Holy [bleep]! -He doesn't give a [bleep]. 41 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,172 Look at that smile. 42 00:01:46,344 --> 00:01:49,620 And now he pretty much told me that I am cursed. 43 00:01:49,793 --> 00:01:51,896 -What? -I ended up in the hospital. 44 00:01:52,033 --> 00:01:54,310 -I was bleeding, I was dying. -What? 45 00:01:54,482 --> 00:01:57,000 I will be honest, I keep going back to Daniel because 46 00:01:57,137 --> 00:01:58,620 I'm terrified for my life. 47 00:01:58,793 --> 00:02:01,310 I feel like I'm gonna die because I am cursed 48 00:02:01,482 --> 00:02:04,689 by a Nigerian priest. -Oh my God. 49 00:02:13,172 --> 00:02:15,413 It was a black magic curse. 50 00:02:17,517 --> 00:02:19,068 Daniel says that we are 51 00:02:19,241 --> 00:02:20,344 cursed by this -- -Calm -- calm down, OK? 52 00:02:20,517 --> 00:02:22,413 Have you not told me that we are cursed, Daniel? 53 00:02:24,482 --> 00:02:27,482 What the [bleep], you -- you -- ugh. 54 00:02:27,655 --> 00:02:30,000 I was told that it cannot be undone 55 00:02:30,137 --> 00:02:32,896 unless I come back to Nigeria. 56 00:02:33,034 --> 00:02:34,896 Daniel, do you think these things that have happened 57 00:02:35,034 --> 00:02:37,620 to Lisa are the result of this curse? 58 00:02:37,793 --> 00:02:39,517 [Daniel] Yes. 59 00:02:39,689 --> 00:02:41,930 -Oh, Jesus. -That's scary. 60 00:02:42,067 --> 00:02:44,586 Hey, Lisa, he's [bleep] crazy. Don't believe that [bleep]. 61 00:02:44,758 --> 00:02:46,689 Those stuff only work if you believe it. 62 00:02:46,862 --> 00:02:49,172 Your thoughts and your words are very powerful. 63 00:02:49,344 --> 00:02:51,310 So I rebuke that. There's no curse on you, girl. 64 00:02:51,482 --> 00:02:53,103 Don't accept that [bleep]. 65 00:02:53,275 --> 00:02:54,413 [Lisa] Thank you, Stig. 66 00:02:56,103 --> 00:02:59,482 I think the biggest question is, why couldn't I know 67 00:02:59,655 --> 00:03:02,172 that my mother was going into the hospital 68 00:03:02,344 --> 00:03:04,068 and was dying? 69 00:03:04,241 --> 00:03:05,379 What is she talking about? 70 00:03:06,620 --> 00:03:08,793 Can you give us some clarity on what you're talking 71 00:03:08,965 --> 00:03:12,172 about, Faith? -Mom had an ectopic pregnancy. 72 00:03:12,344 --> 00:03:13,517 What? 73 00:03:13,689 --> 00:03:16,103 She already had a hysterectomy. 74 00:03:16,275 --> 00:03:18,827 We never even considered she could get pregnant. 75 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,172 [Laura] Wait. 76 00:03:20,172 --> 00:03:23,275 I didn't know you could have an ectopic pregnancy when 77 00:03:23,448 --> 00:03:26,482 you had a partial hysterectomy. It wasn't a full hysterectomy. 78 00:03:26,655 --> 00:03:29,379 -It was a partial one. -[Laura] Oh, Lisa, I'm so sorry. 79 00:03:29,551 --> 00:03:31,000 I'm sorry, Lisa. 80 00:03:31,137 --> 00:03:32,689 [Emma] So sorry, Lisa. 81 00:03:32,862 --> 00:03:34,172 So what? I need clarification. 82 00:03:34,344 --> 00:03:35,482 What does that mean? 83 00:03:35,482 --> 00:03:39,689 Mom could not save the pregnancy, no matter what. 84 00:03:39,862 --> 00:03:42,896 [Shaun] Yeah, an ectopic pregnancy is a pregnancy that happens 85 00:03:43,034 --> 00:03:45,000 outside the uterus. -That's crazy. 86 00:03:46,724 --> 00:03:50,310 Lisa, did this happen at a hospital in Nigeria or in the States? 87 00:03:50,482 --> 00:03:52,482 No. I was over 10 weeks pregnant. 88 00:03:52,655 --> 00:03:54,067 It happened in the States. 89 00:03:54,241 --> 00:03:55,517 After you had gotten back from Nigeria? 90 00:03:55,689 --> 00:03:56,896 [Lisa] After I'd gotten back from Nigeria. 91 00:03:57,034 --> 00:04:00,586 We got pregnant right around the first time we had sex. 92 00:04:00,758 --> 00:04:02,000 [group] Wow. 93 00:04:02,172 --> 00:04:04,620 And Daniel didn't want anybody to know. 94 00:04:04,793 --> 00:04:07,172 Faith finally found out. I did tell her. 95 00:04:07,344 --> 00:04:09,000 And I wouldn't even allow her to go to the hospital 96 00:04:09,172 --> 00:04:12,172 with me in fear of what Daniel would say. 97 00:04:12,344 --> 00:04:13,482 That's wild. 98 00:04:13,655 --> 00:04:15,413 I went through the whole thing by myself, 99 00:04:15,586 --> 00:04:17,379 the surgery and everything. 100 00:04:17,551 --> 00:04:20,274 He went to sleep when you said you were about to have 101 00:04:20,447 --> 00:04:21,413 to have surgery. 102 00:04:25,482 --> 00:04:26,896 I tried to wake you up. 103 00:04:34,793 --> 00:04:37,517 But, Daniel, you were not there for me, 104 00:04:37,689 --> 00:04:39,482 and I don't need you. 105 00:04:39,655 --> 00:04:41,379 I found my truth. 106 00:04:41,551 --> 00:04:43,482 -I know who I am today. -[Laura] Yes, you do. 107 00:04:43,655 --> 00:04:46,000 I'm not gonna let somebody push me down and tell me who 108 00:04:46,172 --> 00:04:48,103 I can be and who I can't be any longer. 109 00:04:48,275 --> 00:04:49,379 I will find my voice. 110 00:04:53,172 --> 00:04:54,517 'Cause I don't have that kind of love 111 00:04:54,689 --> 00:04:57,034 for you anymore, Daniel. You ruined it. 112 00:04:59,482 --> 00:05:04,275 [Shaun] OK, there are certainly a lot of layers to this story. 113 00:05:04,448 --> 00:05:07,586 Lisa, we learned earlier that your last breakup was caused 114 00:05:07,758 --> 00:05:10,206 by accusations of cheating, which you denied. 115 00:05:11,206 --> 00:05:15,793 Daniel, did you accuse her of sleeping with other people? 116 00:05:19,379 --> 00:05:23,068 You know, I haven't had sex with anybody since Daniel. 117 00:05:23,241 --> 00:05:24,827 And that's the truth. 118 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,689 [Daniel speaking] 119 00:05:26,862 --> 00:05:27,931 You don't have to believe me. 120 00:05:28,068 --> 00:05:30,068 I don't give a [bleep] if you believe me or not. 121 00:05:34,103 --> 00:05:35,310 [Shaun] OK, Daniel, hold on. 122 00:05:36,896 --> 00:05:40,724 Lisa, tell us, who is this other guy in Nigeria? 123 00:05:42,275 --> 00:05:43,827 We met on social media. 124 00:05:45,206 --> 00:05:47,413 He has been a very good friend to me. 125 00:05:47,586 --> 00:05:50,413 He was there for me when Daniel and I were going 126 00:05:50,586 --> 00:05:52,689 through problems. He was my best friend. 127 00:05:52,862 --> 00:05:54,793 -Best friend. -[Lisa] He talked to me through everything. 128 00:05:54,965 --> 00:05:57,586 And I'll tell you what, he's no longer my best friend. 129 00:05:57,758 --> 00:05:58,896 He is the love of my life. 130 00:06:00,896 --> 00:06:03,000 -Oh. -Damn. 131 00:06:03,172 --> 00:06:05,413 At first, he was just commenting on my videos. 132 00:06:05,586 --> 00:06:09,586 It was very innocent, fun, little comments. 133 00:06:09,758 --> 00:06:12,275 And then one day, Daniel and I had a fight. 134 00:06:12,448 --> 00:06:13,793 And I said, "You know what? I'm gonna ask 135 00:06:13,965 --> 00:06:16,413 a guy's opinion if I was in the wrong." 136 00:06:16,586 --> 00:06:18,413 He actually told me Daniel was right. 137 00:06:18,586 --> 00:06:19,931 -[Elise] Wow. -[Lisa] He took Daniel's side. 138 00:06:20,068 --> 00:06:22,206 -[Laura] Wow. -[Lisa] And we just started talking. 139 00:06:22,379 --> 00:06:25,103 Talked about my marriages, and we talked about Faith. 140 00:06:25,275 --> 00:06:27,689 We talked about everything. 141 00:06:27,862 --> 00:06:31,413 This is a lot of communication you're holding with this guy. 142 00:06:31,586 --> 00:06:32,793 I was. 143 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:33,931 [Shaun] When you were in a relationship with Daniel? 144 00:06:34,068 --> 00:06:35,689 Yeah, yeah. 145 00:06:35,862 --> 00:06:40,000 OK, so do you feel like you were cheating on Daniel talking to him? 146 00:06:40,172 --> 00:06:43,586 I don't, because we weren't doing anything inappropriate. 147 00:06:43,758 --> 00:06:45,827 It was normal conversations. 148 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,275 I mean, I saw the text messages. 149 00:06:47,448 --> 00:06:48,379 They were just friends. 150 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,068 Maybe emotional connection, though. 151 00:06:52,241 --> 00:06:53,827 Yeah, yeah. 152 00:06:54,896 --> 00:06:56,931 Yeah, but still, that's -- that's -- that's a form of cheating, I think. 153 00:07:04,793 --> 00:07:06,413 [Lisa] He has. 154 00:07:06,586 --> 00:07:08,172 Now, yes, but we're not together. 155 00:07:08,344 --> 00:07:09,586 You and I aren't together. 156 00:07:11,172 --> 00:07:13,172 No, no, we were not in a relationship. 157 00:07:13,344 --> 00:07:16,793 Just because you think we're in a relationship does not mean 158 00:07:16,965 --> 00:07:18,103 we're in a relationship. 159 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,551 Huh? 160 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,620 What the hell? 161 00:07:26,793 --> 00:07:28,724 You're not her master. 162 00:07:28,896 --> 00:07:31,275 He believes that he is the master of me. 163 00:07:32,379 --> 00:07:34,620 -[bleep] -[Faith] I don't think anyone should belong to anyone. 164 00:07:37,068 --> 00:07:38,689 [Lisa] Can I have two masters at a time? 165 00:07:38,862 --> 00:07:41,482 No, I cannot have two masters, and I won't have any master. 166 00:07:47,103 --> 00:07:49,206 Rick is nodding. Do you agree with Daniel? 167 00:07:50,275 --> 00:07:53,310 -I believe that the man was trying to -- yeah. -Swoop in. 168 00:07:53,482 --> 00:07:54,689 [Laura] Mm-hmm. 169 00:08:03,517 --> 00:08:05,000 She doesn't want you. 170 00:08:07,275 --> 00:08:11,482 [Shaun] OK, at this point, we're all curious about this mystery man. 171 00:08:11,655 --> 00:08:15,413 And we are fortunate enough to connect with him now. 172 00:08:15,586 --> 00:08:16,896 [Laura and Rick] What? 173 00:08:17,034 --> 00:08:19,413 -So we and Daniel can get to know him. -[Elise] Oh, no. 174 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:20,896 Oh. 175 00:08:23,103 --> 00:08:24,482 Please welcome Ty. 176 00:08:28,103 --> 00:08:31,793 Everybody's gonna see how she acts and manipulates. 177 00:08:31,965 --> 00:08:33,793 Starts with the waterworks. 178 00:08:33,965 --> 00:08:35,793 I feel like I wasted a lot of time. 179 00:08:35,965 --> 00:08:38,068 -Don't cry. -Yeah, I feel bad about it. 180 00:08:38,241 --> 00:08:39,448 [Emma] Oh. 181 00:08:40,688 --> 00:08:42,620 There is something that I've been, like, upset about. 182 00:08:42,793 --> 00:08:45,379 I found out, like, you tried to hook up with Rob. 183 00:08:45,551 --> 00:08:46,896 I didn't do anything [bleep] wrong. 184 00:08:47,034 --> 00:08:48,827 That guy's not your boyfriend. 185 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,310 He's [bleep] able to do whatever the [bleep] he wants. 186 00:08:51,482 --> 00:08:52,793 [Emma] Don't raise your voice at me. 187 00:08:52,965 --> 00:08:54,620 -Don't -- don't -- -Don't get me mad and attack me. 188 00:08:54,793 --> 00:08:55,793 You're hooking up with other guys. 189 00:08:55,965 --> 00:08:56,896 Who [bleep] cares? 190 00:09:02,379 --> 00:09:06,068 [Shaun] Lisa has a new man in her life. Please welcome Ty. 191 00:09:07,896 --> 00:09:09,379 -Hi, Ty. -[Trisha] Oh. 192 00:09:09,551 --> 00:09:10,862 [Lisa] Hi, Ty. 193 00:09:13,310 --> 00:09:16,275 -Oh. -Hi, baby. 194 00:09:16,448 --> 00:09:17,379 [Shaun] How are you? 195 00:09:21,931 --> 00:09:23,931 Every -- everyone is doing great. 196 00:09:25,172 --> 00:09:27,103 Daniel, would you like to say hello to Ty? 197 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:33,620 [Shaun] You're not? 198 00:09:38,793 --> 00:09:42,620 Ty, do you consider Lisa your girlfriend? 199 00:09:47,103 --> 00:09:48,379 Do we have a big age gap? 200 00:09:49,275 --> 00:09:53,000 No -- no --no hate on that. I mean, it just looks like it. 201 00:09:53,172 --> 00:09:54,827 It's 21 years, he's 31. 202 00:09:56,482 --> 00:10:00,482 [Laura] How does this work going forward if Lisa's traditionally 203 00:10:00,655 --> 00:10:01,931 married to Daniel in Nigeria 204 00:10:02,068 --> 00:10:04,172 and now has a new man in Nigeria? 205 00:10:14,620 --> 00:10:17,172 Lisa, do you have plans to go to Nigeria again? 206 00:10:17,344 --> 00:10:18,379 -[Lisa] I do. -[Shaun] You do? 207 00:10:18,551 --> 00:10:19,931 -I do. -To see Ty? 208 00:10:20,068 --> 00:10:21,172 [Lisa] Yes. 209 00:10:21,172 --> 00:10:23,931 Faith is coming with me when I go to Nigeria. 210 00:10:24,068 --> 00:10:27,586 Faith knows Ty and has approved of Ty. 211 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,620 Ty and I are having a legal wedding. 212 00:10:32,793 --> 00:10:34,379 [gasps] 213 00:10:34,551 --> 00:10:35,827 You and Ty are getting married? 214 00:10:35,827 --> 00:10:37,482 -Ty and I are getting married. -[Laura] Whoa, wait, what? 215 00:10:37,655 --> 00:10:40,827 -These bombs just keep dropping. -Yeah, this is a lot. 216 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,793 Wow. 217 00:10:42,965 --> 00:10:46,000 So Ty, have you proposed to her? 218 00:10:46,137 --> 00:10:47,068 [Ty speaking] 219 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,379 Wait, what? 220 00:10:54,551 --> 00:10:56,517 Why don't you just, like, move there, take it slow, 221 00:10:56,689 --> 00:10:58,379 see how you like it, then maybe 222 00:10:58,551 --> 00:11:00,275 an engagement, then a marriage. Like, what's the rush? 223 00:11:01,379 --> 00:11:03,413 Eh, she's never like that. That's the issue. 224 00:11:03,586 --> 00:11:05,896 -You're very impulsive, Mom, you know [indistinct]. -I am very impulsive. 225 00:11:06,034 --> 00:11:07,793 I am very impulsive, number one. 226 00:11:07,965 --> 00:11:09,586 -[Faith] That's her track record. -[Shaun] OK. 227 00:11:09,758 --> 00:11:13,586 Daniel, do you have any warnings or advice to Ty 228 00:11:13,758 --> 00:11:15,379 as he prepares for his marriage to Lisa? 229 00:11:33,517 --> 00:11:34,758 Oh. 230 00:11:47,758 --> 00:11:51,103 I'm getting married to Ty. I wanna be away from Daniel. 231 00:11:51,275 --> 00:11:54,827 Daniel finds a way back into my life every which way I go. 232 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 I don't think you escape from one guy and jump 233 00:11:59,172 --> 00:12:00,586 in with another. -It’s not about it, it's not just about escape. 234 00:12:00,758 --> 00:12:02,000 But you just said you can't get away from him. 235 00:12:02,172 --> 00:12:03,620 I can't get away from Daniel. 236 00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:05,586 -I feel like... -Daniel keeps finding a way back into my life 237 00:12:05,758 --> 00:12:08,000 and I don't wanna -- -...that's not a good motivation to jump into a marriage 238 00:12:08,137 --> 00:12:09,793 with something -- the same. -It's not just about that. 239 00:12:09,965 --> 00:12:11,896 -It feels like you're doing more of the same. -It’s not just about that. 240 00:12:12,034 --> 00:12:13,000 I will be honest with you, Laura. 241 00:12:14,275 --> 00:12:18,379 I love Ty. Ty knows about my past. 242 00:12:18,551 --> 00:12:21,000 Ty knows about everything about me. 243 00:12:22,758 --> 00:12:24,793 But the difference was, he accepted it from 244 00:12:24,965 --> 00:12:27,758 the very beginning. -I can see the difference. 245 00:12:35,275 --> 00:12:36,827 OK. 246 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,758 This sounds like an extremely complicated situation 247 00:12:39,931 --> 00:12:40,862 between all of you. 248 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,206 Faith, thank you so much for being here. 249 00:12:44,379 --> 00:12:46,103 -We really appreciate it. -Thank you. 250 00:12:46,275 --> 00:12:47,724 -[Shaun] Thank you. -Thank you, Faith. 251 00:12:50,172 --> 00:12:52,379 Ty, it has been a pleasure meeting you today. 252 00:12:52,551 --> 00:12:54,103 Thank you for speaking with us. 253 00:12:54,275 --> 00:12:56,172 [Ty speaking] 254 00:12:56,344 --> 00:12:59,517 [Shaun] Lisa, it seems like you've moved on, but any final words 255 00:12:59,689 --> 00:13:02,379 for Daniel? -Leave me alone and let me go. 256 00:13:02,551 --> 00:13:05,275 Let me go, Daniel. You say that you are my master. 257 00:13:05,448 --> 00:13:07,413 Just let me go because I don't have a master. 258 00:13:07,586 --> 00:13:08,896 No, it's -- it's -- it's... 259 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,586 Oh, my God. This is insane. 260 00:13:16,896 --> 00:13:18,931 OK, that was a lot. 261 00:13:19,068 --> 00:13:21,827 There is still a lot of things that need to be figured out. 262 00:13:23,689 --> 00:13:27,000 Everybody stretch your legs, and we'll call you back soon. 263 00:13:27,172 --> 00:13:28,000 [Aviva] That's no good. 264 00:13:35,896 --> 00:13:37,172 [Lisa] Thank you for sticking up for me. 265 00:13:37,172 --> 00:13:39,379 -Thank you for holding my back. -[Faith] Yeah, I love you. 266 00:13:40,689 --> 00:13:42,379 So if I married Ty, 267 00:13:42,551 --> 00:13:44,103 what is your percentage of approval? 268 00:13:45,482 --> 00:13:46,793 70, 75. 269 00:13:47,689 --> 00:13:53,103 And the reason it's that amount is because I really do think 270 00:13:53,275 --> 00:13:54,379 you should have a break. 271 00:13:55,586 --> 00:13:57,517 Take your time. 272 00:13:57,689 --> 00:13:59,172 I will -- I will take my time with the wedding, 273 00:13:59,344 --> 00:14:02,172 but I am still moving, Faith, to be with him 274 00:14:02,344 --> 00:14:04,172 and to live with him and to grow with him 275 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:05,689 and to see what life is like with him. 276 00:14:05,862 --> 00:14:07,689 Please don't move to Nigeria right away. 277 00:14:07,862 --> 00:14:09,758 Please. Give it time. 278 00:14:09,931 --> 00:14:11,586 -Give it time. -It's worth waiting. 279 00:14:11,758 --> 00:14:12,793 [Elise] I'm coming in the girl's circle. 280 00:14:12,965 --> 00:14:13,827 Are you OK? 281 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,103 I love you and I care about you. 282 00:14:15,275 --> 00:14:16,931 I am perfectly OK. I am perfectly OK. 283 00:14:17,068 --> 00:14:18,413 That was a [bleep] load. 284 00:14:18,586 --> 00:14:20,000 -Yeah, it was. -Yeah. 285 00:14:20,137 --> 00:14:22,758 -Yeah. -When Ty came on, I kind of felt bad for Daniel. 286 00:14:22,931 --> 00:14:24,551 -I'm not gonna lie. -Really? 287 00:14:24,551 --> 00:14:27,413 -I didn't feel bad. -I felt bad that, like, Daniel had to see the guy that 288 00:14:27,586 --> 00:14:29,689 she's now in love with. 289 00:14:29,862 --> 00:14:31,275 OK, sorry. 290 00:14:32,896 --> 00:14:34,758 [Lisa] Faith, I'll see you tonight. 291 00:14:34,931 --> 00:14:36,793 [Elise] But I don't think they're traditionally married. 292 00:14:36,965 --> 00:14:38,551 I don't know. Maybe she'll go back to women. 293 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,586 Alright, let's be done with me now. 294 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,482 -Oh, there's my Sheena. -[Shaun] Alright. 295 00:14:46,655 --> 00:14:47,793 [producer] Three, two... 296 00:14:49,103 --> 00:14:50,689 Now we are turning our attention 297 00:14:50,862 --> 00:14:53,275 to Forrest and Sheena. 298 00:14:53,448 --> 00:14:56,758 Before Forrest and Sheena can get married, they face 299 00:14:56,931 --> 00:14:59,206 two big obstacles. 300 00:14:59,379 --> 00:15:03,275 Forrest's disapproving mom and him needing a steady job 301 00:15:03,448 --> 00:15:04,793 for the K-1 visa process. 302 00:15:06,275 --> 00:15:07,310 So Forrest, you said that 303 00:15:07,482 --> 00:15:09,586 you're a pharmacy tech. -[Forrest] Yeah. 304 00:15:09,758 --> 00:15:12,172 -[Shaun] Mm-hmm? -I just got my paycheck... 305 00:15:12,344 --> 00:15:16,310 -Ooh! -...today, $781. 306 00:15:16,482 --> 00:15:18,275 And I'll get another one next week. 307 00:15:18,448 --> 00:15:19,793 [Shaun] Alright. 308 00:15:19,965 --> 00:15:22,793 You think it's going to be enough to support you and Sheena? 309 00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:26,689 Um, as long as I keep this job. 310 00:15:26,862 --> 00:15:28,896 I do have to say that it really 311 00:15:29,034 --> 00:15:31,586 is putting a lot of stress on me and my body. 312 00:15:32,793 --> 00:15:35,379 -I'm doing 40 hours a week. -[Shaun] Yes. 313 00:15:35,551 --> 00:15:37,068 And then sometimes overtime. 314 00:15:37,241 --> 00:15:40,931 And when I get home, I barely have time to talk to my Sheen. 315 00:15:42,103 --> 00:15:44,172 Because -- 316 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:45,310 [Shaun] Oh. 317 00:15:45,482 --> 00:15:47,689 -Don't cry. -Yeah, I feel bad about it. 318 00:15:47,862 --> 00:15:49,068 -[Sheena] I love you, baby. -[Emma] Oh. 319 00:15:51,275 --> 00:15:54,689 I get home and I want to spend time with her, and I can't 320 00:15:54,862 --> 00:15:57,793 because I'm so tired and I just pass out. -[Emma] Oh, aw. 321 00:15:58,896 --> 00:16:00,379 And then it's the same thing with my mom. 322 00:16:00,551 --> 00:16:01,896 I can't spend any time with my mother either. 323 00:16:02,034 --> 00:16:05,379 -That might be a good thing. -[Molly] There it is. 324 00:16:05,551 --> 00:16:09,000 Everybody thinks that I'm just like this big bad guy, 325 00:16:09,137 --> 00:16:12,068 but everybody's gonna see how she manipulates. 326 00:16:12,241 --> 00:16:15,000 Starts with the waterworks. You're gonna see. 327 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:19,827 I have no time for anybody, but I wanna get everything 328 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,482 done as fast as possible. 329 00:16:21,655 --> 00:16:23,827 And I feel like I wasted a lot of time. 330 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,413 Keep your eye on the prize, Forrest. 331 00:16:25,586 --> 00:16:26,689 You got this, Forrest. 332 00:16:26,862 --> 00:16:29,482 One day you'll be sleeping right next to Sheena. 333 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:30,793 I hope so. 334 00:16:32,379 --> 00:16:35,206 But I have not started the application process yet, 335 00:16:35,379 --> 00:16:38,172 because you can't even, you know, 336 00:16:38,344 --> 00:16:39,586 fill it online anymore. 337 00:16:39,758 --> 00:16:42,896 It has to be on paper, and I don't have a printer. 338 00:16:43,034 --> 00:16:46,103 And getting everything together, it's just very confusing. 339 00:16:46,275 --> 00:16:48,206 I'll help you with the paperwork, Forrest. 340 00:16:48,379 --> 00:16:50,689 -I would -- I would love that. -I'll help you. 341 00:16:50,862 --> 00:16:53,103 -I live close to you, Forrest. -[Forrest] I know. 342 00:16:53,275 --> 00:16:54,689 I promise to come and help you. 343 00:16:56,413 --> 00:16:57,931 I would appreciate that, guys. 344 00:16:58,068 --> 00:17:00,068 -Thank you so much, guys. -I -- I love you all. 345 00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:02,000 -Thank you. -You're welcome, Sheena. 346 00:17:02,137 --> 00:17:03,344 We love you. 347 00:17:03,344 --> 00:17:05,827 -Thank you. -Sheena seems very excited about that. 348 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,205 OK. 349 00:17:07,205 --> 00:17:10,205 Well, besides the K-1 visa, another hurdle this couple 350 00:17:10,378 --> 00:17:12,896 has faced is family approval. 351 00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:16,275 Forrest's mom was not happy when he popped the question 352 00:17:16,448 --> 00:17:18,517 to Sheena. Now, she is here. 353 00:17:19,517 --> 00:17:21,000 Please welcome Molly. 354 00:17:22,482 --> 00:17:23,689 Alright, where is she? 355 00:17:28,793 --> 00:17:30,206 Here we go. 356 00:17:31,689 --> 00:17:35,482 She's very deceptive, and I worry she won't 357 00:17:35,655 --> 00:17:37,275 actually come here. 358 00:17:37,448 --> 00:17:39,517 I started this thinking Molly was the problem, and now 359 00:17:39,689 --> 00:17:41,620 I switched to thinking Sheena's the problem. 360 00:17:41,793 --> 00:17:44,310 There's something that doesn't sit quite right. 361 00:17:44,482 --> 00:17:46,172 -[Molly] Sheena? -Yes, Mom? 362 00:17:46,344 --> 00:17:50,896 If the day comes, would you really actually leave 363 00:17:51,034 --> 00:17:52,103 and come over here and stay? 364 00:18:00,793 --> 00:18:03,034 Please welcome Forrest's mom, Molly. 365 00:18:04,586 --> 00:18:05,620 -[Shaun] Hi, Molly. -[Molly] Hello. 366 00:18:05,620 --> 00:18:07,137 -Hey, Mom. -[Molly] Very nice to meet you. 367 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:08,172 I love your dress. 368 00:18:08,344 --> 00:18:10,448 [Molly] Hey, son, hey. 369 00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:12,034 -Welcome. -Looking fancy. 370 00:18:12,206 --> 00:18:16,344 -Ooh, thank you, hey Sheena. -Hi, Mom. 371 00:18:16,517 --> 00:18:18,965 Well, Molly, thank you so much for being here. 372 00:18:19,103 --> 00:18:23,344 You were really upset with Forrest in the Philippines. 373 00:18:23,517 --> 00:18:25,379 Are you guys back on good terms today? 374 00:18:26,655 --> 00:18:27,655 Um... 375 00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:31,068 we're trying to be. 376 00:18:32,137 --> 00:18:34,241 We have a type of relationship 377 00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:37,689 where we say what's on our mind. 378 00:18:37,862 --> 00:18:40,379 That's where we have our, you know, squabbles. 379 00:18:41,689 --> 00:18:42,689 OK. 380 00:18:43,758 --> 00:18:45,551 Well, despite the disagreements, 381 00:18:45,724 --> 00:18:49,000 this mother and son relationship is very close. 382 00:18:49,137 --> 00:18:51,586 Let's take a look at some of the advice Molly gave 383 00:18:51,758 --> 00:18:54,379 to Forrest, including some never-before-seen footage. 384 00:18:56,241 --> 00:19:00,068 -Forrest, lube and condoms. -[Forrest] Alright, right. 385 00:19:00,241 --> 00:19:02,379 There you go. No babies. 386 00:19:02,551 --> 00:19:05,172 Have fun. Be safe. 387 00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:08,862 -You got this, Mom. -No, you got this. 388 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,758 -[Forrest] Dang straight. -You have fun. 389 00:19:10,931 --> 00:19:12,068 Turn the radio up. 390 00:19:12,241 --> 00:19:16,034 Show her respect, which I know you will. 391 00:19:16,206 --> 00:19:19,758 And have a hell of a good time. You -- you guys deserve it, OK? 392 00:19:19,931 --> 00:19:22,482 -OK, I love you, son. -I love you, too, Mom. 393 00:19:22,655 --> 00:19:23,586 -OK. -Good night. 394 00:19:23,758 --> 00:19:24,689 -[Molly] Good night. -Thank you. 395 00:19:24,862 --> 00:19:25,793 [Molly] Yes. 396 00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:30,448 Did you guys do the old nookie-nookie? 397 00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:33,103 [Stig laughs] 398 00:19:33,275 --> 00:19:34,758 -[both] No. -[Molly] No? 399 00:19:34,931 --> 00:19:36,586 -[both] No. -Oh, OK. 400 00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:40,965 Well, there are other things that you can do. 401 00:19:41,103 --> 00:19:44,034 There's oral sex. There's fondling. 402 00:19:44,206 --> 00:19:45,758 Oh, Molly. 403 00:19:45,931 --> 00:19:47,379 You know, if we wanna talk about sex with you, 404 00:19:47,551 --> 00:19:48,896 we'll come up and ask about it. 405 00:19:51,241 --> 00:19:53,275 OK. Excuse me. 406 00:19:58,862 --> 00:20:00,103 Oh. 407 00:20:03,379 --> 00:20:05,379 As of today, I am not a virgin anymore. 408 00:20:06,758 --> 00:20:08,758 It was a great sensation. I never... 409 00:20:08,931 --> 00:20:11,448 It's way better than what I thought, OK? 410 00:20:11,620 --> 00:20:14,172 Way better than what I do at night by myself. 411 00:20:14,344 --> 00:20:16,896 Me and my hand, I'm sorry, we're gonna have to break up. 412 00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:22,482 -[Aviva] OK, Forrest. -[Laura] Get it, Forrest. 413 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:23,551 Sheena! 414 00:20:23,724 --> 00:20:25,793 -Action man. -Way to go, Sheena. 415 00:20:28,137 --> 00:20:30,379 My hand now belongs to -- to Sheena, so. 416 00:20:30,551 --> 00:20:34,068 -Oh, wow, get it, girl. -He retired it. 417 00:20:35,965 --> 00:20:40,482 [Shaun] Alright, Molly, when you look back at that, 418 00:20:40,655 --> 00:20:43,793 do you think you were being too involved 419 00:20:43,965 --> 00:20:45,655 in their sex life? 420 00:20:45,827 --> 00:20:47,482 No. 421 00:20:47,655 --> 00:20:49,034 -That's crazy. -No? 422 00:20:49,206 --> 00:20:50,862 -That's crazy. -That's wild. 423 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,655 [Molly] You know, like I said, we have a very open 424 00:20:53,827 --> 00:20:57,172 communication with each other. And that's just, you know, 425 00:20:58,689 --> 00:21:01,000 a discussion that everybody would feel comfortable 426 00:21:01,137 --> 00:21:03,275 talking about, we -- I mean -- -It didn't look like anyone was 427 00:21:03,448 --> 00:21:05,724 comfortable when you were talking about that. 428 00:21:08,172 --> 00:21:11,137 Yeah, it's -- it's awkward to have these conversations 429 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:13,482 with my mom at times. 430 00:21:13,655 --> 00:21:17,482 But I have to understand that I'm still her son. 431 00:21:17,655 --> 00:21:23,034 And it may come across as nasty, sexual, oh, she's in 432 00:21:23,206 --> 00:21:26,344 his business, but she's just there supporting me. 433 00:21:35,758 --> 00:21:37,689 [Shaun] So you and Forrest disagree, 434 00:21:37,862 --> 00:21:39,448 because Forrest is saying it was fine. -[Molly] Yeah. 435 00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:41,896 Sheena is saying she was uncomfortable. 436 00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:44,344 OK, so it's to an extent. 437 00:21:44,517 --> 00:21:46,896 So like, the lube and stuff, 438 00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:49,482 that was like, "Oh, I care about you," 439 00:21:49,655 --> 00:21:53,551 but then asking how our sex was, I do believe that 440 00:21:53,724 --> 00:21:57,103 was overstepping the line for both me and Sheena. 441 00:21:57,275 --> 00:21:58,482 That -- that was a little weird, Mom. 442 00:22:00,586 --> 00:22:01,896 Yeah. 443 00:22:02,034 --> 00:22:03,482 It's like a matter-of-fact type thing. 444 00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:05,862 It's like, I don't want all the juicy details 445 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,862 or anything like that. 446 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,344 Just, OK, yes, no, fine, good. 447 00:22:09,517 --> 00:22:10,482 Do you need any guidance? 448 00:22:15,758 --> 00:22:17,689 [Shaun] Well, you've got a fan, Molly. 449 00:22:17,862 --> 00:22:19,344 [indistinct overlapping chatter] 450 00:22:21,379 --> 00:22:23,000 Yes. 451 00:22:26,862 --> 00:22:29,103 Molly, how do you view Forrest and Sheena's 452 00:22:29,275 --> 00:22:30,586 relationship today? 453 00:22:30,758 --> 00:22:33,896 I support their relationship, I do, as long as -- 454 00:22:34,034 --> 00:22:35,448 as Sheena doesn't lie. 455 00:22:37,344 --> 00:22:41,482 Do you still feel like Sheena lies to you? 456 00:22:42,482 --> 00:22:44,793 Yes. I feel like Sheena still lies. 457 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,793 Because she's very deceptive. 458 00:22:52,172 --> 00:22:54,137 [Shaun] What do you think she's lying about? 459 00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:58,137 It comes down to the -- doing the whole process 460 00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:02,586 with the K-1 visa and all of the money with her family. 461 00:23:02,758 --> 00:23:04,896 Sheena changes the story daily. 462 00:23:05,034 --> 00:23:07,172 She's very manipulative. 463 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:08,793 -Oh. -[Annalyn] Oh, wow. 464 00:23:08,965 --> 00:23:10,172 Yeah. 465 00:23:10,172 --> 00:23:13,344 How did you feel, Molly, when Sheena said that she would 466 00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:18,034 not send money to her family anymore, and then the next day, 467 00:23:18,206 --> 00:23:22,275 after the conversation with her father says she still needs 468 00:23:22,448 --> 00:23:24,862 to send them money and Forrest needs to send money? 469 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,586 But that's exactly what I'm -- I'm talking about, how this 470 00:23:27,758 --> 00:23:31,379 flip-flop type thing of tell one person one thing and then 471 00:23:31,551 --> 00:23:34,689 tell somebody else something else and then have it not even 472 00:23:34,862 --> 00:23:37,068 be the total truth at all. 473 00:23:37,241 --> 00:23:40,103 Actually, Forrest really wanted me to save money, 474 00:23:40,275 --> 00:23:43,275 so I don't know how to explain this to him that it's culturally 475 00:23:43,448 --> 00:23:46,689 for me to have it to help my family because my family 476 00:23:46,862 --> 00:23:50,034 also provides the stuff that I need in my daily life. 477 00:23:53,758 --> 00:23:57,448 So I happen to save money much better compared to the last, 478 00:23:57,620 --> 00:23:59,241 the longest years. 479 00:23:59,413 --> 00:24:02,000 So you -- your family hasn't been asking you for money? 480 00:24:02,172 --> 00:24:04,689 No, no more. No, no, no. 481 00:24:04,862 --> 00:24:07,172 That's not what I was told. 482 00:24:07,344 --> 00:24:09,482 Her parents were asking her for money. 483 00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:10,482 [Shaun] As recently as? 484 00:24:10,655 --> 00:24:12,793 Yes, as recently as a week ago. 485 00:24:12,965 --> 00:24:14,103 -No, no, no, no. -[Shaun] OK. 486 00:24:14,275 --> 00:24:18,241 -Wow. -Why -- why Sheena disagree with that? 487 00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:19,896 Yeah, that's what I'd like to know, Sheena. 488 00:24:20,034 --> 00:24:22,103 -[Rick] Uh-oh. -[Molly] It's a lie. 489 00:24:22,275 --> 00:24:24,034 What money? What money? 490 00:24:24,206 --> 00:24:26,241 OK, you gonna start crying now, Sheena? 491 00:24:26,413 --> 00:24:27,448 Oh, my -- oh. 492 00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:29,172 -That's bullying. -[Jovon] Yeah. 493 00:24:33,862 --> 00:24:34,965 'Cause she's interrogating me. 494 00:24:35,103 --> 00:24:37,793 And yeah. That's why she's crying. 495 00:24:37,965 --> 00:24:39,344 No, no, I'm not crying. It's OK. 496 00:24:45,379 --> 00:24:46,379 Is that the truth? 497 00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:49,896 -Oy. -Molly, who told you that? 498 00:24:52,172 --> 00:24:53,482 Look at Forrest. Look at him. 499 00:24:53,655 --> 00:24:56,758 -[Rick] Yeah. -[Shaun] Ooh, Forrest? 500 00:24:56,931 --> 00:24:58,586 Uh, yes. 501 00:24:58,758 --> 00:25:01,344 -Oh, no. -Forrest, did you tell your mom that? 502 00:25:01,517 --> 00:25:05,000 So they -- they asked for help, but then they didn't, 503 00:25:05,172 --> 00:25:07,172 like, take any money from her. -Oh. 504 00:25:08,586 --> 00:25:10,689 They asked for help, but she didn't send it to them. 505 00:25:10,862 --> 00:25:12,172 -[Forrest] Exactly. -[Molly] Oh. 506 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:16,379 So she's -- Sheena's not lying. She hasn't given them any. 507 00:25:16,551 --> 00:25:17,793 -[Shaun] OK. -But they've asked. 508 00:25:17,793 --> 00:25:20,793 But Sheena, you just said they have not asked for money. 509 00:25:20,965 --> 00:25:22,758 -Mm-hmm. -No. 510 00:25:22,931 --> 00:25:24,689 No. They didn't. 511 00:25:24,862 --> 00:25:26,758 But -- but Forrest is saying the opposite. 512 00:25:26,931 --> 00:25:28,103 -Yeah. -[Elise] They have asked. 513 00:25:28,275 --> 00:25:30,275 You haven't given. There's a difference. 514 00:25:32,586 --> 00:25:33,931 I don't understand. 515 00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:38,275 -Forrest. -[Shaun] Fo -- OK. 516 00:25:38,448 --> 00:25:42,862 So Sheena, your parents said, "Hey, can you help me out?" 517 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,551 -OK. -And then you said "No," right? 518 00:25:45,724 --> 00:25:47,586 -Yes. -And didn't give them anything. 519 00:25:47,758 --> 00:25:49,758 Correct. That's what happened. 520 00:25:49,931 --> 00:25:51,034 -Yes. -There, there. 521 00:25:51,206 --> 00:25:52,137 -That's -- that's it. -Oh. 522 00:25:53,241 --> 00:25:55,000 But you don't have to lie. 523 00:25:56,172 --> 00:26:00,896 I feel like Sheena feels intimidated by Molly because 524 00:26:01,034 --> 00:26:04,103 every time you talk to her, you always have this energy 525 00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:05,586 -Like you -- that you wanna fight her. 526 00:26:05,758 --> 00:26:08,137 That's the last thing I want is for Sheena to feel 527 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:12,275 intimidated because ultimately, I love her and I care about 528 00:26:12,448 --> 00:26:15,758 her and I want what's best for her. 529 00:26:15,931 --> 00:26:17,068 -And she loves Forrest. -[Emma] Aw. 530 00:26:17,241 --> 00:26:18,896 I know she loves him. 531 00:26:19,034 --> 00:26:20,758 I think that she's a good fit for him. 532 00:26:20,931 --> 00:26:22,655 And that's what I find is so frustrating. 533 00:26:22,827 --> 00:26:26,655 I just want you to -- to have a life too. 534 00:26:26,827 --> 00:26:28,896 I want you to succeed too. 535 00:26:29,034 --> 00:26:31,551 I saw what was occurring in your family. 536 00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:33,896 You're working all these hours and they just give all 537 00:26:34,034 --> 00:26:37,896 the money to your brother. -No, that's not true. 538 00:26:38,034 --> 00:26:39,793 The truth is I'm helping my family 539 00:26:39,965 --> 00:26:42,137 and I'm also helping Forrest as well. 540 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:44,241 That's all. 541 00:26:44,413 --> 00:26:46,586 OK, well, what's happening with the brother, Sheena? 542 00:26:46,758 --> 00:26:49,482 Your parents help your brother, but you have to help 543 00:26:49,655 --> 00:26:52,000 your parents, so your money is basically going 544 00:26:52,137 --> 00:26:53,103 to help your brother. 545 00:26:53,275 --> 00:26:54,896 -Is that true? -[Sheena] Um... 546 00:26:57,344 --> 00:26:58,655 Are your parents helping your brother? 547 00:27:01,896 --> 00:27:04,137 My brother? No, not so much. 548 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:06,482 I don't understand, like... 549 00:27:06,655 --> 00:27:08,103 It -- it's a "Yes" or "No." 550 00:27:08,275 --> 00:27:11,034 [Elise] That's a very vague answer that someone that likes 551 00:27:11,206 --> 00:27:13,482 to manipulate would give, just to be honest with you. 552 00:27:13,655 --> 00:27:16,000 -True. -Yes, Sheena. 553 00:27:16,172 --> 00:27:17,379 [Shaun] What do you mean, Elise? 554 00:27:17,551 --> 00:27:19,586 I mean, like, "not so much." You could... 555 00:27:19,758 --> 00:27:21,655 It's an easy way out of lying, I think. 556 00:27:23,344 --> 00:27:26,000 -I'm sorry. -Damn. 557 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,586 Forrest, you should know how much money Sheena is sending 558 00:27:30,758 --> 00:27:32,896 her parents, because she was supposed to be sending 559 00:27:33,034 --> 00:27:36,689 screenshots of her expenses to you. 560 00:27:36,862 --> 00:27:40,689 -Has she been doing that? -I haven't asked for them. 561 00:27:43,137 --> 00:27:46,241 Do you think you should send it to me on your own? 562 00:27:46,413 --> 00:27:47,689 -Like, monthly or? -[Jovon] Yeah. 563 00:27:47,862 --> 00:27:49,344 [Forrest] Weekly, like how much you give your parents? 564 00:27:49,517 --> 00:27:51,413 [Sheena speaking] 565 00:27:53,896 --> 00:27:55,551 No, but with -- without -- without me asking, do you -- 566 00:27:55,724 --> 00:27:57,103 do you feel like you should do that? 567 00:27:57,275 --> 00:27:59,000 Yes, yes... 568 00:27:59,137 --> 00:28:00,344 I just think it’s funny. 569 00:28:00,517 --> 00:28:02,344 I started this thinking Molly was the problem, 570 00:28:02,517 --> 00:28:04,206 and now I switched to thinking Sheena's the problem. 571 00:28:04,206 --> 00:28:06,137 -And why do you think so? -I'm kinda agreeing with Elise, I agree with Elise. 572 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:07,655 -[Shaun] Why? -[Lisa] I agree with Elise, too. 573 00:28:07,655 --> 00:28:09,793 I just feel like there's -- there's lots of little hiccups, 574 00:28:09,965 --> 00:28:12,793 and I wanna say, yes, it might be a language barrier, 575 00:28:12,965 --> 00:28:17,068 but it also feels like it might not be. -[Elise] Yeah. 576 00:28:17,241 --> 00:28:19,379 [Laura] There's something that doesn't sit quite right. 577 00:28:19,551 --> 00:28:23,689 I feel like it's in Sheena's nature to -- to not be honest 578 00:28:23,862 --> 00:28:26,379 all the time, but I think it's coming from a genuine 579 00:28:26,551 --> 00:28:29,965 place, 'cause she was really afraid of losing Forrest. 580 00:28:30,103 --> 00:28:32,172 -She was trying to please us both at the same time. -[Laura and Rick] Yeah. 581 00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:33,724 -Yes, yeah. -[Laura] It sounds like it. 582 00:28:33,724 --> 00:28:35,275 -And she didn’t know what -- -[Rick] That’s what she said. 583 00:28:35,448 --> 00:28:37,586 You guys are gonna have to get over this, "I was afraid 584 00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:39,379 to tell you the truth." -[Forrest] Yeah. 585 00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:42,034 -Yeah. -[Shaun] Because that is going to be 586 00:28:42,206 --> 00:28:45,034 something that is gonna chip away at the foundation 587 00:28:45,206 --> 00:28:46,896 of this relationship. -Yeah. 588 00:28:47,034 --> 00:28:48,758 -[Molly] Sheena? -Yes, Mom. 589 00:28:48,931 --> 00:28:51,689 [Molly] I just want to know, if the day comes, 590 00:28:51,862 --> 00:28:56,275 would you really actually leave and come over here and stay? 591 00:28:57,896 --> 00:29:01,034 I worry she won't actually come here. 592 00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:02,482 [Shaun] Why is that? 593 00:29:02,655 --> 00:29:06,965 Just because I understand her need to take care 594 00:29:07,103 --> 00:29:10,448 of her family and be there for her family. 595 00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:12,551 And she won't leave 'cause -- that duty. 596 00:29:18,068 --> 00:29:20,448 But what is your timeline... 597 00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:23,758 to actually start this process of getting the K-1 visa? 598 00:29:23,931 --> 00:29:26,758 Well, since, you know, Rick and everybody here said 599 00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:29,172 they would give me additional help, 600 00:29:29,344 --> 00:29:31,103 I -- I would say 601 00:29:31,275 --> 00:29:33,172 I'm -- I'm ready after -- after here. 602 00:29:34,655 --> 00:29:35,896 One step at a time. 603 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,172 And Sheena will be on her way over here. 604 00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:41,448 Yes. I'm ready to do it. 605 00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:42,655 [Shaun] You're ready. Alright. 606 00:29:42,827 --> 00:29:43,758 -Yeah. -[Shaun] OK. 607 00:29:44,896 --> 00:29:46,793 Molly, thank you so much. 608 00:29:46,965 --> 00:29:48,586 I know this has been very difficult for you... 609 00:29:48,758 --> 00:29:51,482 -Yeah. -...but we appreciate you being so open and honest with us. 610 00:29:51,655 --> 00:29:53,172 -Thank you for being here. -[Molly and Emma] Thank you. 611 00:29:53,344 --> 00:29:54,448 -Thank you, Molly. -[Molly] Thank you. 612 00:29:56,793 --> 00:29:59,793 Forrest and Sheena, we wish you the best of luck 613 00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:02,275 with your engagement, and we hope the K-1 visa 614 00:30:02,448 --> 00:30:05,379 process moves ahead very smoothly. 615 00:30:11,586 --> 00:30:15,586 Alright, now it is time to focus on Aviva and Stig. 616 00:30:15,758 --> 00:30:19,103 Aviva and Stig's connection in Belize was strong, but not 617 00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:22,275 long after the proposal, something caused him to change 618 00:30:22,448 --> 00:30:24,379 his mind, and we're about to learn 619 00:30:24,551 --> 00:30:26,896 what exactly went wrong. 620 00:30:27,034 --> 00:30:29,482 Now, before we get to the breakup, I wanna talk 621 00:30:29,655 --> 00:30:32,172 about the start of the trip. 622 00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:34,137 Aviva, you were open to having 623 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:37,655 a child very, very quickly with Stig. 624 00:30:37,827 --> 00:30:41,586 Why did you feel that way after just meeting him? 625 00:30:43,448 --> 00:30:46,482 Well, we had talked on and off for several years. 626 00:30:46,655 --> 00:30:48,172 I don't know, I thought we had a pretty good relationship 627 00:30:48,344 --> 00:30:52,137 and I don't think I went into it wanting, like, 628 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:53,896 a baby right away. 629 00:30:54,034 --> 00:30:56,241 However, if it happened, it happened and I wouldn't have 630 00:30:56,413 --> 00:30:57,862 been upset about it. 631 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,172 [Shaun] So Stig, you hadn't even said "I love you" to Aviva. 632 00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:07,586 Do you think you were really ready for a child at that time? 633 00:31:07,758 --> 00:31:08,689 I mean... 634 00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,379 But I did have crazy love 635 00:31:15,551 --> 00:31:18,241 for Aviva and the age that I'm at, I've already done 636 00:31:18,413 --> 00:31:20,172 all these crazy things 637 00:31:20,344 --> 00:31:21,896 and enjoy being an artist, you know? 638 00:31:22,034 --> 00:31:26,137 So I was very open to starting a family and all that. 639 00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:27,448 Like, I was genuine about that. 640 00:31:28,482 --> 00:31:30,448 Does anyone else think it was odd? 641 00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:32,137 -Irresponsible? -[Lisa] It was very irresponsible. 642 00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:33,620 I think it's super irresponsible. 643 00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:37,000 Were neither of you worried about, like, any kind of STDs? 644 00:31:37,137 --> 00:31:40,034 Those can be lifelong, as well as a child. 645 00:31:40,206 --> 00:31:41,896 Yeah, but we know we don't have any STDs. 646 00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:43,586 I mean, I wasn't sleeping around, and I believe that 647 00:31:43,758 --> 00:31:45,137 she wasn't sleeping around, so we weren’t scared about that. 648 00:31:45,310 --> 00:31:47,000 You believe it, but you didn't know it. 649 00:31:47,137 --> 00:31:48,275 I mean, aren't you a little bit 650 00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:49,655 worried about your health and your safety? 651 00:31:49,827 --> 00:31:51,379 Of course, of course. I agree. 652 00:31:51,551 --> 00:31:53,793 It was irresponsible, but I don't know. 653 00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:57,034 When you -- when you love somebody, you love somebody. 654 00:31:57,206 --> 00:31:58,793 I'm pretty -- I'm pretty sure Stig was sleeping around 655 00:31:58,965 --> 00:32:00,068 with other people. -[Shaun] Oh. 656 00:32:00,241 --> 00:32:01,896 -[Laura and Emma] Whoa. -[Laura] Forrest. 657 00:32:02,034 --> 00:32:03,896 I'm -- I'm pretty sure. 658 00:32:04,034 --> 00:32:05,448 Yeah, he can say that, but he's -- he's a -- 659 00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:06,896 he's a player, man. 660 00:32:08,482 --> 00:32:10,482 -[Rick] He's a superstar. -[Forrest] Yeah, he's a superstar. 661 00:32:10,655 --> 00:32:12,586 He's got all those women around him all the time. 662 00:32:14,379 --> 00:32:18,172 [Shaun] OK, well, before things went south with Aviva and Stig, 663 00:32:18,344 --> 00:32:20,862 there was a time when it looked like this relationship was 664 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,551 going to last forever. 665 00:32:22,724 --> 00:32:23,965 -Let's take a look back. -[gasps] 666 00:32:24,103 --> 00:32:25,379 Oh, God. 667 00:32:26,586 --> 00:32:29,137 I decided to take Aviva to the Mayan Ruins, 668 00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:31,793 one of Belize's main attraction. 669 00:32:31,965 --> 00:32:34,862 -That's huge. -Right? 670 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,379 That is so cool. 671 00:32:36,551 --> 00:32:38,172 ♪ I’m not sure ♪ 672 00:32:38,344 --> 00:32:39,586 [Stig speaking] 673 00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,344 -[Aviva] Yes, let's do it. -[Stig] Let's go. 674 00:32:48,793 --> 00:32:53,655 Maybe you should stop for real. I wanna tell you something. 675 00:32:57,275 --> 00:32:58,586 Since the first time I met you, babe, 676 00:32:59,689 --> 00:33:02,172 something just made me feel like you're the one for real, 677 00:33:02,344 --> 00:33:03,896 and I wanna be with you for the rest of my life. 678 00:33:05,137 --> 00:33:07,103 -That's so sweet. -[Stig] So babe. 679 00:33:08,379 --> 00:33:10,137 -Will you marry me? -Yes. 680 00:33:11,275 --> 00:33:13,103 She said, "Yes!" 681 00:33:13,275 --> 00:33:15,896 ♪ Oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ 682 00:33:16,034 --> 00:33:17,896 That's so sweet. 683 00:33:21,379 --> 00:33:22,965 [Stig speaking] 684 00:33:26,965 --> 00:33:28,103 [Shaun] Wow. 685 00:33:28,103 --> 00:33:30,448 Aviva, what were you thinking watching that back? 686 00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:31,689 It brought you to tears. 687 00:33:33,241 --> 00:33:35,241 Just I don't know. 688 00:33:35,413 --> 00:33:37,655 I wanted it to work out so bad, I think. 689 00:33:37,827 --> 00:33:38,793 So yeah, it's hard to see. 690 00:33:43,448 --> 00:33:47,689 Stig, when you see Aviva so emotional watching that clip, 691 00:33:49,068 --> 00:33:50,206 how does that make you feel? 692 00:33:52,448 --> 00:33:55,379 And, you know, I had all intentions to start a family 693 00:33:55,551 --> 00:33:58,793 with her, it was genuine. 694 00:33:58,965 --> 00:34:02,379 But now the engagement is broken off. 695 00:34:02,551 --> 00:34:05,448 -Yeah. -How did we get to this point? 696 00:34:07,344 --> 00:34:09,068 Um, when I got home, 697 00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:13,241 our relationship turned really toxic. 698 00:34:13,413 --> 00:34:17,275 There was a lot of trust issues, and honestly, 699 00:34:17,447 --> 00:34:19,103 Stig, you were [bleep] mean to me. 700 00:34:21,137 --> 00:34:22,482 Why was I mean to you, though? 701 00:34:22,482 --> 00:34:25,688 Why did I get so triggered that I wanted to break up with you? 702 00:34:25,862 --> 00:34:27,793 Why was I like that? 703 00:34:27,965 --> 00:34:29,275 -Jesus. -[Stig] Tell me why. 704 00:34:31,482 --> 00:34:33,620 Look at me right now and say that you didn't cheat. 705 00:34:36,068 --> 00:34:38,688 I'm like, "Aviva, I hear guys in the background. 706 00:34:38,862 --> 00:34:39,896 Where are you?" She hangs up, 707 00:34:40,034 --> 00:34:41,757 and she stopped answering my calls. 708 00:34:41,931 --> 00:34:44,793 He would go out every [bleep] night and not answer me, 709 00:34:44,965 --> 00:34:46,896 and that's OK? 710 00:34:47,034 --> 00:34:48,688 He was freaking the [bleep], 711 00:34:48,862 --> 00:34:50,344 "[bleep] you, [bleep] you bitch!" 712 00:34:50,516 --> 00:34:51,896 You drove me insane! 713 00:34:52,034 --> 00:34:54,000 So it's all Aviva? It's all her? 714 00:35:02,862 --> 00:35:04,379 Look at me right now and say that you didn't cheat. 715 00:35:05,379 --> 00:35:07,206 I didn't ever [bleep] cheat on you. 716 00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:10,689 [Shaun] OK, wait. 717 00:35:10,862 --> 00:35:12,482 Stig says you cheated, Aviva. 718 00:35:12,655 --> 00:35:15,896 You say you didn't. How did he get that impression? 719 00:35:16,034 --> 00:35:19,000 Well, I was in Belize right after all the Aunt Spring drama. 720 00:35:19,172 --> 00:35:22,793 Somebody texted me and said, "That guy is never gonna love 721 00:35:22,965 --> 00:35:24,482 you like --like I would." 722 00:35:24,655 --> 00:35:26,793 And then I replied and I said, "Yeah, you're right." 723 00:35:26,965 --> 00:35:28,862 'Cause that's how I felt in that moment. 724 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,137 And he went through my phone and he saw that. 725 00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:34,379 And that's as far as it went. And so, yeah, absolutely. 726 00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:35,620 I replied to that text. 727 00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:37,344 I shouldn't have, especially being in Belize. 728 00:35:37,517 --> 00:35:40,793 That was very disrespectful of me, but. 729 00:35:43,241 --> 00:35:44,793 ...got caught talking to other men. 730 00:35:44,965 --> 00:35:46,862 -No. -Multiple times. 731 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,379 I'm not gonna ever be OK with being in a relationship, 732 00:35:49,551 --> 00:35:51,689 especially engaged to somebody, and you're hanging 733 00:35:51,862 --> 00:35:52,896 around guys. -I'm not. 734 00:35:53,034 --> 00:35:54,793 I wasn't hanging around guys. 735 00:35:54,965 --> 00:35:57,482 Stig, what are you talking about when you say she was 736 00:35:57,655 --> 00:35:59,241 hanging around guys? What do you mean? 737 00:35:59,413 --> 00:36:00,620 [Stig] Multiple times. 738 00:36:00,620 --> 00:36:04,379 Like, one time, Aviva told me that she wanted to go 739 00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:05,758 to Mexico for the weekend. 740 00:36:05,931 --> 00:36:08,862 She said, "I'm gonna go to an all-inclusive resort. 741 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,034 I'm gonna go to the pool, read a book, have a good time." 742 00:36:12,206 --> 00:36:13,517 -Cool. -Mm-hmm. 743 00:36:13,517 --> 00:36:15,241 I get that she's trying to have a good day, I'm busy, too. 744 00:36:15,413 --> 00:36:17,172 But she's barely answering me. Any at all. 745 00:36:17,344 --> 00:36:19,379 -Boom, I go on Instagram -- -Sucks, doesn't it? 746 00:36:19,551 --> 00:36:20,896 [Stig] Go on Instagram. 747 00:36:21,034 --> 00:36:23,034 And Aviva is at a pool party. 748 00:36:23,206 --> 00:36:25,344 And her best friend posted a video. 749 00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:26,965 And they're obviously in a section 750 00:36:27,103 --> 00:36:28,068 with a bunch of guys. 751 00:36:28,241 --> 00:36:30,344 I call Aviva. She answers. 752 00:36:30,517 --> 00:36:32,793 I'm like, "Aviva, I hear guys in the background. 753 00:36:32,965 --> 00:36:34,862 Where are you?" She's like, "No." 754 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,448 I'm like, "Show me." She hangs up. 755 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:37,758 And she stopped answering my calls. 756 00:36:37,931 --> 00:36:39,793 And I told her, "I don't wanna be with you. 757 00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:40,896 I'm done with this." 758 00:36:42,275 --> 00:36:43,482 [Aviva] I was at a [bleep] party. 759 00:36:44,896 --> 00:36:46,793 He would go out every [bleep] night 760 00:36:46,965 --> 00:36:48,896 and not answer me, and that's OK. 761 00:36:49,034 --> 00:36:50,172 And I was supposed to believe you. 762 00:36:50,344 --> 00:36:51,965 And then the one time I go to a pool party, 763 00:36:52,103 --> 00:36:54,448 it's a huge [bleep] deal. 764 00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:56,172 Like, why were you allowed to do 765 00:36:56,344 --> 00:36:57,758 whatever the [bleep] you wanted 766 00:36:57,931 --> 00:37:00,172 but I couldn't even look out the window without it 767 00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:01,689 being a [bleep] problem? 768 00:37:01,862 --> 00:37:04,068 I went to dinner with my coworker, who's a female, 769 00:37:04,241 --> 00:37:06,172 and he's freaking the [bleep], 770 00:37:06,344 --> 00:37:07,793 "[bleep] you, [bleep] you, bitch. 771 00:37:07,965 --> 00:37:09,586 What the [bleep]? Why aren't you responding, blah, blah." 772 00:37:09,758 --> 00:37:12,758 And sorry, I'm sorry, but that's how you'd 773 00:37:12,931 --> 00:37:14,758 talk to me, I know you wanna defend yourself. -[Stig] I do not talk 774 00:37:14,931 --> 00:37:16,275 to you like that. -But that's how you speak to me. 775 00:37:16,448 --> 00:37:18,448 That point -- at that point, I did not talk to you like that. 776 00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:21,758 -I remember -- -You shouldn't say those things to her at all. 777 00:37:21,931 --> 00:37:24,724 -Ever. -[Forrest] Never. 778 00:37:27,172 --> 00:37:29,068 For going to dinner? 779 00:37:29,241 --> 00:37:31,448 While I was at dinner with a friend and you were saying 780 00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:33,275 "[bleep] this, [bleep] you," where were you? 781 00:37:33,448 --> 00:37:35,068 You were at a bar! 782 00:37:35,241 --> 00:37:36,517 So make it make sense. 783 00:37:36,517 --> 00:37:39,172 Your double standards don't make sense, and it drove me 784 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:42,689 insane every day. -'Cause you drove me insane. 785 00:37:42,862 --> 00:37:44,793 When you were out, I was thinking the worst. 786 00:37:44,965 --> 00:37:46,586 All I've heard is that Aviva's a cheater, 787 00:37:46,758 --> 00:37:48,551 but nothing from you. 788 00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:49,931 You know? Where -- where's your -- 789 00:37:49,931 --> 00:37:51,275 where's your defense that you weren't meeting up with 790 00:37:51,448 --> 00:37:53,068 other women? -Yeah, so it's all Aviva? 791 00:37:53,241 --> 00:37:54,896 It's all her? 792 00:37:55,034 --> 00:37:58,344 Honestly, Stig, me and Aviva have become really good friends. 793 00:37:58,517 --> 00:38:00,344 She told me everything that happened when she got back from 794 00:38:00,517 --> 00:38:03,655 Belize, how you treated her, how you disrespected her, 795 00:38:03,827 --> 00:38:05,172 how you're controlling. 796 00:38:05,172 --> 00:38:07,586 And honestly, I think she's way too good for you, and you were 797 00:38:07,758 --> 00:38:08,896 a real piece of [bleep] to her. 798 00:38:09,034 --> 00:38:11,551 Well, I don't agree with you, so that's that. 799 00:38:17,034 --> 00:38:19,689 Alright, there are two people in Aviva's life who had 800 00:38:19,862 --> 00:38:22,758 a lot of thoughts on Stig and Aviva's relationship. 801 00:38:22,931 --> 00:38:26,103 Please welcome Aviva's aunt, Spring, and Corinth. 802 00:38:28,068 --> 00:38:30,689 -Hi, ladies, how are you? -Hi. 803 00:38:30,862 --> 00:38:34,862 Spring, as you look back on Aviva and Stig's relationship, 804 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,172 how do you feel about it today? 805 00:38:37,344 --> 00:38:40,793 When I had left Belize, I was actually totally supportive 806 00:38:40,965 --> 00:38:44,482 of the situation, but then I've been getting messages about 807 00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:46,275 who he's been messing with down there. 808 00:38:46,448 --> 00:38:47,344 Oh, pff. 809 00:38:47,517 --> 00:38:49,068 [Spring] So the girl from the video, 810 00:38:50,275 --> 00:38:51,344 you were with her. 811 00:38:52,482 --> 00:38:53,896 -[Aviva] Yeah, so -- -I was with her? 812 00:38:54,034 --> 00:38:57,655 Yes, he filmed a -- he filmed music video with a girl, 813 00:38:57,827 --> 00:38:59,241 and he went ghost on me 814 00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:01,586 after the music video. Like, what the [bleep]? 815 00:39:01,758 --> 00:39:04,655 Like, how am I supposed to know that you didn't do [bleep]? 816 00:39:04,827 --> 00:39:06,689 That did not happen. 817 00:39:09,137 --> 00:39:11,000 From what I can see, you know, 818 00:39:12,275 --> 00:39:14,862 there's a lot of accusations flying around with no real 819 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,862 solid proof, right? -[Elise and Annalyn] Yeah. 820 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,379 Yeah, I agree with that. 821 00:39:19,551 --> 00:39:24,275 Stig, you can't keep saying that this one is a fan or this one 822 00:39:24,448 --> 00:39:28,793 knows you, this one just want clout off of you. 823 00:39:28,965 --> 00:39:31,275 I'm trying to figure out if you're the one trying to get 824 00:39:31,448 --> 00:39:32,896 clout off of Aviva. 825 00:39:33,034 --> 00:39:34,862 Are you trying to move to the States so you get better 826 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,068 music opportunities through Aviva because you're 827 00:39:38,241 --> 00:39:39,586 in the States? 828 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,862 Corinth really questions Stig's commitment to Aviva. 829 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,137 And in this never-before-seen interview, she gives us 830 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:56,896 her reason for not trusting him. 831 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,448 I think that Aviva is probably 832 00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:03,655 blindsided by love or something. 833 00:40:03,827 --> 00:40:07,172 Like, she is just too deep in the blue hole that she's not 834 00:40:07,344 --> 00:40:09,241 actually seeing what he's doing. 835 00:40:09,413 --> 00:40:11,241 He is just around. He's been around. 836 00:40:11,413 --> 00:40:12,793 He has a Spanish girl. 837 00:40:12,965 --> 00:40:15,172 He has girls pregnant all around. 838 00:40:15,344 --> 00:40:16,655 He needs to focus. 839 00:40:18,448 --> 00:40:20,586 Yes, he does. 840 00:40:20,758 --> 00:40:24,000 I know for a fact that he has more than one girl pregnant 841 00:40:24,137 --> 00:40:25,793 right now. -Oh. 842 00:40:25,965 --> 00:40:27,344 Oh, my gosh. 843 00:40:27,517 --> 00:40:29,655 -[Shaun] OK. -What? 844 00:40:31,482 --> 00:40:36,172 [Shaun] So Stig, Corinth just said that you have more than one 845 00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:39,379 girl pregnant. Is there any truth to that? 846 00:40:47,448 --> 00:40:49,379 How do you think that went with Molly and Forrest? 847 00:40:49,551 --> 00:40:52,275 -I think it's a cluster [bleep], I, like -- -[Laura speaking] 848 00:40:52,448 --> 00:40:56,379 The more I listened, the more I think 849 00:40:56,551 --> 00:40:58,379 Sheena is a liar. 850 00:40:58,551 --> 00:41:02,482 You guys are seeing exactly why I've questioned everything. 851 00:41:02,655 --> 00:41:04,379 I hope she's telling the truth, Forrest. 852 00:41:04,551 --> 00:41:05,482 She's hiding something. 853 00:41:14,344 --> 00:41:18,137 OK, Stig, Corinth just said that 854 00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:20,896 you have more than one girl pregnant. 855 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,586 No. 856 00:41:26,758 --> 00:41:28,448 No. 857 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:32,000 -That is an out-and-out lie. -Yeah. 858 00:41:35,172 --> 00:41:37,758 Everything he says is a lie. 859 00:41:37,931 --> 00:41:41,482 You know, Belize is a small country, and people talk. 860 00:41:41,655 --> 00:41:45,000 How I found out about it is because he was messing 861 00:41:45,172 --> 00:41:47,793 with my friend, and he told my friend about the girl. 862 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000 And he also said that there 863 00:41:53,137 --> 00:41:55,379 could be another girl that was pregnant. 864 00:41:59,068 --> 00:42:02,241 And there were also rumors that he already currently 865 00:42:02,413 --> 00:42:04,551 had a child already. 866 00:42:05,689 --> 00:42:08,344 -[Shaun] Stig? -But can I -- can I -- can I say something? 867 00:42:08,517 --> 00:42:09,896 [Shaun] Yeah, go ahead, Stig, go ahead. 868 00:42:10,034 --> 00:42:12,689 Listen, bro, I did not grow up with my dad, right? 869 00:42:12,862 --> 00:42:15,103 I can't wait till the day I become a dad, 'cause I wanna 870 00:42:15,275 --> 00:42:17,896 be the best dad that I could possibly be. 871 00:42:18,034 --> 00:42:21,172 So no, if I was a dad, I would have been the best father 872 00:42:21,344 --> 00:42:22,413 that I could ever be. 873 00:42:22,413 --> 00:42:23,827 So don't be playing with my name like that. 874 00:42:26,275 --> 00:42:29,241 Aviva, do you believe Stig or Corinth? 875 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,034 I don't know. 876 00:42:34,034 --> 00:42:36,482 I -- I think if he had a kid, we would know. 877 00:42:36,655 --> 00:42:39,137 Do I believe he was maybe messing with a girl? 878 00:42:39,310 --> 00:42:40,241 Yes. 879 00:42:40,413 --> 00:42:42,000 But do I believe that he has a kid? 880 00:42:42,172 --> 00:42:43,448 No. 881 00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:48,793 OK, Aunt Spring and Corinth, thank you for taking the time 882 00:42:48,965 --> 00:42:51,068 to speak with us today. We really appreciate it. 883 00:42:51,241 --> 00:42:52,793 Yeah, thank you. Love you, niece. 884 00:42:52,965 --> 00:42:54,862 -Love you. -[Corinth] Love you, Aviva. 885 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,586 -[Spring] Bye. -[Shaun] Alright. 886 00:42:57,758 --> 00:43:00,448 Well, Aviva and Stig, we're sorry that you weren't 887 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:02,137 able to work things out. 888 00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:04,068 Best wishes for the future to both of you. 889 00:43:07,758 --> 00:43:08,827 OK, everybody. 890 00:43:08,827 --> 00:43:10,379 That was tough, but let's take a quick break 891 00:43:10,551 --> 00:43:11,655 and I'll see you back here shortly. 892 00:43:13,586 --> 00:43:14,655 [sighs] 893 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,758 I take accountability for it. 894 00:43:22,931 --> 00:43:24,896 Then he doesn't take any. Like, I don't understand. 895 00:43:26,068 --> 00:43:27,482 -Do I not take accountability? -Yes. 896 00:43:27,655 --> 00:43:29,689 He didn't own up to, like, literally anything. 897 00:43:29,862 --> 00:43:30,862 [Emma] You did amazing. 898 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,275 [Rick] You did good. 899 00:43:37,551 --> 00:43:41,482 I really wanted to, you know, throw myself at -- at Stig. 900 00:43:41,655 --> 00:43:44,689 I think he's full-on lying the entire time 901 00:43:44,862 --> 00:43:46,068 about everything with Aviva. 902 00:43:46,068 --> 00:43:49,551 Yeah, I think it's near impossible to be a faithful 903 00:43:49,724 --> 00:43:50,896 rap star. -Nah. 904 00:43:50,896 --> 00:43:52,758 You know, 'cause you're gonna have women throwing 905 00:43:52,931 --> 00:43:55,655 themselves at you, all in your DMs. 906 00:43:55,827 --> 00:43:56,896 You know what? I've decided. 907 00:43:57,034 --> 00:43:58,551 I'm gonna become a famous rap star. 908 00:43:58,724 --> 00:44:00,241 [laughing] 909 00:44:00,413 --> 00:44:01,689 Thank you. 910 00:44:01,862 --> 00:44:03,586 How do you think that went with Molly and Forrest? 911 00:44:03,758 --> 00:44:06,448 -I think it's a cluster [bleep] I, like -- -[Laura speaking] 912 00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:08,000 I just, like, I don't think 913 00:44:08,137 --> 00:44:09,310 Sheena's being completely honest. 914 00:44:09,482 --> 00:44:12,172 And I think that Molly attacking Sheena makes Sheena 915 00:44:12,344 --> 00:44:14,241 more prone to lie a little bit more. 916 00:44:14,413 --> 00:44:16,137 I do not see her coming to the States. 917 00:44:17,689 --> 00:44:22,793 The more I listened, the more I think Sheena 918 00:44:22,965 --> 00:44:25,172 is a liar. And poor Forrest. 919 00:44:25,344 --> 00:44:26,689 I just wanna give him a hug and be like, 920 00:44:26,862 --> 00:44:28,379 "That [bleep] sucks." 921 00:44:28,551 --> 00:44:29,689 Hey. 922 00:44:29,862 --> 00:44:31,275 -[Forrest] Hey, Mom. -Wait a minute. 923 00:44:31,448 --> 00:44:33,379 You did so good. I'm so proud of you. 924 00:44:33,551 --> 00:44:35,793 But I hope she's telling the truth, Forrest. 925 00:44:35,965 --> 00:44:37,000 -Hey, hello, how are you doing? -Hi, Forrest. 926 00:44:37,137 --> 00:44:39,000 -I'm gonna interrupt you. -Go for it. 927 00:44:39,172 --> 00:44:40,586 I wanna talk to Molly. 928 00:44:40,758 --> 00:44:42,482 Molly, I'm sorry I was so against you. 929 00:44:42,655 --> 00:44:45,586 I came here ready to scream and yell and stomp my feet 930 00:44:45,758 --> 00:44:49,482 and tell you what a bad mom you are, but you're not, you're not. 931 00:44:49,655 --> 00:44:52,275 I didn't understand how you were coming after Sheena. 932 00:44:52,448 --> 00:44:54,862 And then all of a sudden, I started watching, 933 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,689 and I started seeing things, and she's hiding something. 934 00:44:57,862 --> 00:44:59,137 [Molly] Thank you. 935 00:44:59,310 --> 00:45:01,758 Yeah, you guys are seeing exactly why 936 00:45:01,931 --> 00:45:03,379 I've questioned everything. 937 00:45:03,551 --> 00:45:06,275 Yes, and you and Sheena are so perfect together, and I love 938 00:45:06,448 --> 00:45:08,172 the love that you have, and it's genuine, 939 00:45:08,344 --> 00:45:10,586 and it's true, and I see it going forever. 940 00:45:10,758 --> 00:45:13,034 But just make sure you get all that information. 941 00:45:13,206 --> 00:45:15,896 Oh, my God. What do I do? 942 00:45:16,034 --> 00:45:17,758 Lisa just got -- getting closer. 943 00:45:17,931 --> 00:45:19,206 And my mom just kept getting closer. 944 00:45:19,206 --> 00:45:23,344 I'm like, I felt like I was kind of pushed into a corner, 945 00:45:23,517 --> 00:45:26,241 but has not really put a damper on how I feel about Sheena. 946 00:45:26,413 --> 00:45:27,689 I'm nosy, Forrest. 947 00:45:32,379 --> 00:45:33,655 -[Forrest] I'll see you later, Mom. -[Molly] OK. 948 00:45:33,827 --> 00:45:35,793 -I love you, son. -I love you, alright, bye. 949 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,482 -Thank you, thank you. -[producer] Quiet, please. 950 00:45:39,655 --> 00:45:42,344 Lighting up. Three, two. 951 00:45:44,344 --> 00:45:47,896 [Shaun] Alright, Elise and Joshua, it is your turn. 952 00:45:48,034 --> 00:45:52,068 Elise's trip to Australia was a mixed bag of good times 953 00:45:52,241 --> 00:45:54,689 and the issues they confronted along the way. 954 00:45:54,862 --> 00:45:56,172 Let's find out the details 955 00:45:56,344 --> 00:45:58,275 of what has happened since we last saw them. 956 00:45:58,448 --> 00:46:00,689 Elise and Joshua, shall we get moving? 957 00:46:00,862 --> 00:46:02,586 -Let's do it. -[Shaun] Alright. 958 00:46:02,758 --> 00:46:05,482 We know about the breakup, but we also know 959 00:46:05,655 --> 00:46:09,275 about the reconciliation. How did it happen? 960 00:46:09,448 --> 00:46:12,896 We had a really bad last night together because everything 961 00:46:13,034 --> 00:46:17,586 in his life at the time was a question mark. 962 00:46:17,758 --> 00:46:20,896 Yeah, you know, Elise said, you know, she wasn't ready 963 00:46:21,034 --> 00:46:23,896 to settle, and then she got on an airplane. 964 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,448 But, like, I sort of realized that she was, you know, 965 00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:29,275 she's definitely worth fighting for, and, you know, 966 00:46:29,448 --> 00:46:32,379 what she wanted I could do, and I bit the bullet and, 967 00:46:32,551 --> 00:46:34,689 you know, and reached out and just sort of said, 968 00:46:34,862 --> 00:46:37,689 "You know, I wanna make it work." 969 00:46:37,862 --> 00:46:40,172 [Elise] He has changed 970 00:46:41,344 --> 00:46:45,034 and made so much effort. Like... 971 00:46:45,206 --> 00:46:47,103 I've never seen before. -Wow. 972 00:46:47,275 --> 00:46:50,068 [Elise] He got a new job, a better job with a salary. 973 00:46:50,241 --> 00:46:53,275 He stopped partying. We share locations. 974 00:46:53,448 --> 00:46:56,103 He's not living with the girl Nat anymore. 975 00:46:56,275 --> 00:46:59,241 Every question mark that I had leaving Australia, I now have 976 00:46:59,413 --> 00:47:01,172 an answer to. He's like, "I love you. 977 00:47:01,344 --> 00:47:03,137 "I can't lose you. I'm gonna make it right. 978 00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:04,655 I'm gonna do what it takes." And I was like, 979 00:47:04,827 --> 00:47:06,965 I love you too. I miss you too." 980 00:47:07,103 --> 00:47:08,793 [Shaun] Wait, so you finally said 981 00:47:08,965 --> 00:47:10,586 "I love you" back? -Yeah. 982 00:47:10,758 --> 00:47:11,689 [gasps] 983 00:47:12,896 --> 00:47:14,689 And then he spent two and a half weeks 984 00:47:14,862 --> 00:47:17,689 in Miami with me. -And how did it go? 985 00:47:17,862 --> 00:47:19,758 Amazing. 986 00:47:19,931 --> 00:47:20,827 [Joshua] Yeah, it went amazing. 987 00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:23,862 We got tattoos of each other's names. 988 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,241 -You did? -[Shaun] You did? Where are they, can I see? 989 00:47:26,413 --> 00:47:27,344 Babe, show yours. 990 00:47:29,137 --> 00:47:30,482 -[Shaun] OK. -[Laura] Wow. 991 00:47:30,655 --> 00:47:32,586 -And mine is -- -[Shaun] Can you help her, Forrest? 992 00:47:32,758 --> 00:47:33,793 -[Elise] Thank you, Forrest. -[Forrest] Yeah, no problem. 993 00:47:33,965 --> 00:47:35,000 [Shaun] Thank you. 994 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,379 [Forrest] Good job, Josh. I'm proud of you. 995 00:47:36,551 --> 00:47:37,896 -[Laura] So cute. -[Lisa] I love this. 996 00:47:38,034 --> 00:47:39,344 [Shaun] Very sweet, OK. 997 00:47:40,758 --> 00:47:44,379 Elise struggled with how much it felt like Joshua's friend Chris 998 00:47:44,551 --> 00:47:47,068 was a third wheel in their relationship. 999 00:47:47,241 --> 00:47:49,862 So it's only fitting that we have Chris here to join 1000 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,379 the conversation now. 1001 00:47:51,551 --> 00:47:53,068 -Hi there. -[Chris chuckles] 1002 00:47:53,241 --> 00:47:55,379 -[Elise] Hi, hi. -[Chris] Hello, Josh, Elise. 1003 00:47:55,551 --> 00:47:57,482 [Shaun] Thank you so much for joining us. 1004 00:47:57,655 --> 00:48:01,655 Elise, you were surprised at how much Chris was involved 1005 00:48:01,827 --> 00:48:04,344 in Joshua's life. Do you think they're too close? 1006 00:48:05,896 --> 00:48:08,379 I mean, like, yeah, was it weird that Chris picked me up 1007 00:48:08,551 --> 00:48:10,862 at the airport with Josh? Yeah, it's [bleep] weird. 1008 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,965 Yeah, when I'm getting [bleep] by Josh in bed, 1009 00:48:13,103 --> 00:48:16,000 is your picture above my bed? Yeah, that's weird. 1010 00:48:16,172 --> 00:48:19,379 -[Lisa] Look, he's loving it, he’s laughing, he loves it. -[Laura] Yeah, no, that's weird. 1011 00:48:19,551 --> 00:48:22,034 I mean, where I'm from, like, it's not normal for two 1012 00:48:22,206 --> 00:48:24,965 dudes that are grown-ass men to live together. 1013 00:48:25,103 --> 00:48:26,586 Or have portraits of each other. 1014 00:48:26,758 --> 00:48:28,344 [Elise] Or have portraits of each other. 1015 00:48:28,517 --> 00:48:33,000 [Shaun] Well, Chris, we saw Elise make some demands the night that 1016 00:48:33,137 --> 00:48:35,275 she settled into the rental. 1017 00:48:35,448 --> 00:48:37,172 Do you think that she has 1018 00:48:37,344 --> 00:48:40,586 standards that are actually too high? 1019 00:48:40,758 --> 00:48:43,000 She's high-maintenance, but, I mean, we saw 1020 00:48:43,137 --> 00:48:44,482 that coming. It was to be expected. 1021 00:48:44,655 --> 00:48:45,724 High-maintenance? 1022 00:48:45,724 --> 00:48:48,448 We didn't have a [bleep] toilet that worked. 1023 00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:49,758 [Joshua] What, it didn't flush? 1024 00:48:49,931 --> 00:48:52,586 No, it, like, you couldn't even sit on it. 1025 00:48:52,758 --> 00:48:54,344 -Oh, it wobbled a bit. -[Elise] Yeah, it did. 1026 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,965 -Thanks, Chris. -[Forrest] Wow. 1027 00:49:01,103 --> 00:49:03,241 [Lisa] Elise, you know how I told you when we first met, 1028 00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:04,896 I was like, "I don't like you." -[Elise] Yeah. 1029 00:49:05,034 --> 00:49:06,689 [Lisa] And the reason why I didn't like you was because 1030 00:49:06,862 --> 00:49:09,344 your standards were so high. 1031 00:49:09,517 --> 00:49:12,448 -What [bleep] standards? -[Lisa] And you intimidate -- you intimidated me. 1032 00:49:12,620 --> 00:49:14,482 But I think when you went there, you called it a -- 1033 00:49:14,655 --> 00:49:16,448 a third-world country. -[Elise] I did. 1034 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:18,448 [Lisa] And I'm sitting there -- I'm sitting there thinking, 1035 00:49:18,620 --> 00:49:20,379 what is wrong with you? I went to Nigeria, 1036 00:49:20,551 --> 00:49:23,586 and I didn't even have a toilet seat to sit on -- you're squatting. 1037 00:49:23,758 --> 00:49:25,068 I just thought, you know, this person is 1038 00:49:25,241 --> 00:49:26,482 high-maintenance, like Josh said. 1039 00:49:28,137 --> 00:49:30,896 OK, alright, now that you two are back together, 1040 00:49:31,034 --> 00:49:33,586 Elise, let me ask you, are you confident 1041 00:49:33,758 --> 00:49:36,482 that Josh will be able to contribute 1042 00:49:36,655 --> 00:49:40,551 financially to this relationship in the future? 1043 00:49:41,586 --> 00:49:44,137 I mean, that is a huge worry of mine. 1044 00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:48,103 But actually, Josh, tell them what you just did the other day. 1045 00:49:48,275 --> 00:49:50,275 -What did I do the other day? -Really? 1046 00:49:54,586 --> 00:49:56,655 Oh, uh, I bought you a ticket to Australia. 1047 00:49:56,827 --> 00:49:58,137 [Elise] So he bought me a ticket to Australia. 1048 00:49:58,310 --> 00:50:01,551 -Oh, that's awesome! -And I am going, like, one way. 1049 00:50:01,724 --> 00:50:03,758 -Just one way? -Yeah, crazy. 1050 00:50:03,931 --> 00:50:05,241 -[Aviva] Wow! -Oh, wow. 1051 00:50:05,413 --> 00:50:08,586 He's moving out of Sydney closer to be with his son. 1052 00:50:08,758 --> 00:50:10,862 -[Shaun] OK. -[Elise] So I'm gonna be staying with him. 1053 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,896 And then we'll see. 1054 00:50:13,034 --> 00:50:14,896 Are you moving over here for good, Elise? 1055 00:50:16,379 --> 00:50:18,000 Chris, I have a one-way ticket. 1056 00:50:18,172 --> 00:50:19,379 Yeah, but I thought that was 1057 00:50:19,379 --> 00:50:20,862 just 'cause you didn't know when you were going home. 1058 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,689 Are you actually coming over here to stay permanently 1059 00:50:22,862 --> 00:50:24,137 with Josh? -Oh. 1060 00:50:25,586 --> 00:50:27,965 [tense music playing] 1061 00:50:28,103 --> 00:50:29,379 Oh. 1062 00:50:31,655 --> 00:50:33,379 Josh? 1063 00:50:35,862 --> 00:50:38,379 [Shaun] So Nat, you called Elise a psycho. 1064 00:50:38,551 --> 00:50:40,689 Do you stand by those words today? 1065 00:50:40,862 --> 00:50:44,896 It was warranted. The behavior was erratic. 1066 00:50:45,034 --> 00:50:46,000 Girl, come on. 1067 00:50:48,379 --> 00:50:49,448 [Elise] Josh, you're pretty quiet. 1068 00:50:57,206 --> 00:50:59,586 [Shaun] So Josh, is Elise moving there permanently? 1069 00:51:03,482 --> 00:51:05,758 Oh, absolutely. Like, that's the plan. 1070 00:51:05,931 --> 00:51:07,482 Oh, that's awesome. 1071 00:51:07,655 --> 00:51:10,379 That means I'm gonna come up and visit you every two weeks. 1072 00:51:10,551 --> 00:51:11,896 I just need to find a girl to bring, 1073 00:51:12,034 --> 00:51:14,793 so I'm not third-wheeling. -Chris, I'll come with you. 1074 00:51:16,586 --> 00:51:18,241 You what? Who said that? 1075 00:51:18,413 --> 00:51:20,689 -Me. -Oh, she can come, yeah. 1076 00:51:23,103 --> 00:51:25,068 Josh, fly her in to you, too. 1077 00:51:27,551 --> 00:51:30,586 [Shaun] OK, Elise, you sound excited to go back to Australia, 1078 00:51:30,758 --> 00:51:33,448 but your first trip didn't go that smoothly. 1079 00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:36,137 And things really went south when Elise discovered 1080 00:51:36,310 --> 00:51:40,482 who Joshua was living with. Please welcome his friend Nat. 1081 00:51:40,655 --> 00:51:43,000 -Hi. -[Elise] Hi. 1082 00:51:43,172 --> 00:51:46,379 Nat, what do you have to say to people who think that 1083 00:51:46,551 --> 00:51:50,896 you and Josh have too close of a relationship? 1084 00:51:52,758 --> 00:51:54,896 I couldn't really care less, to be honest. 1085 00:51:55,034 --> 00:51:55,965 I've got a lot of guy friends. 1086 00:51:56,103 --> 00:51:58,103 I've got a lot of friends in general. 1087 00:51:58,275 --> 00:52:00,000 But I see Josh as a brother. You know, 1088 00:52:00,206 --> 00:52:02,586 I went through a pretty rough time last year. 1089 00:52:04,793 --> 00:52:07,689 And he was there for me as I was there for him, so... 1090 00:52:09,344 --> 00:52:11,517 [Shaun] So Elise, your issue 1091 00:52:11,689 --> 00:52:14,551 was that he lied in the beginning. 1092 00:52:14,724 --> 00:52:16,482 -About a lot. -[Shaun] Yeah. 1093 00:52:16,655 --> 00:52:20,379 -Nat, do you think that Josh misled Elise in any way? -[Elise] Yeah. 1094 00:52:22,862 --> 00:52:23,862 No. 1095 00:52:25,862 --> 00:52:27,344 Girl, come on. 1096 00:52:29,379 --> 00:52:32,586 [Shaun] OK, well, when Elise found out that Josh was living with Nat 1097 00:52:32,758 --> 00:52:33,896 instead of his parents, 1098 00:52:34,034 --> 00:52:36,137 she did not hold back her feelings. 1099 00:52:36,310 --> 00:52:38,000 Take a look. 1100 00:52:38,137 --> 00:52:40,241 [Elise] I don't wanna [bleep] think of my man living with another girl. 1101 00:52:40,413 --> 00:52:42,137 Do you want me to go ask every single person here? 1102 00:52:42,310 --> 00:52:43,448 -[Nat] No, no, no. -[Elise] 'Cause I will. 1103 00:52:43,448 --> 00:52:44,758 [Joshua] I wouldn't, it'd be embarrassing to you. 1104 00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:46,344 -[Nat] Yeah. -I don't give a [bleep]. 1105 00:52:47,896 --> 00:52:50,482 Hey guys, let me ask you guys 1106 00:52:50,655 --> 00:52:53,689 all a [bleep] question. Am I crazy... 1107 00:52:53,862 --> 00:52:57,000 -Go Elise. -...or is my guy living with a girl and getting financially 1108 00:52:57,137 --> 00:52:58,586 [bleep] supported crazy? 1109 00:52:58,758 --> 00:53:00,068 [woman speaking] 1110 00:53:00,068 --> 00:53:02,000 [Elise] No, he [bleep] lied to me. 1111 00:53:04,413 --> 00:53:05,482 [Elise] Thank you. 1112 00:53:05,482 --> 00:53:08,034 -Do you feel crazy now? -[Elise] I could be. 1113 00:53:08,206 --> 00:53:09,758 -Like... -[Elise] Yeah, but I'm -- I'm -- 1114 00:53:09,758 --> 00:53:11,172 I'm having two against one. -[Joshua] You’re telling half the story. 1115 00:53:11,344 --> 00:53:14,517 -What the [bleep] am I supposed to do? -[Nat] You're not -- 1116 00:53:14,689 --> 00:53:17,068 [Elise] So give us your story, you're here. 1117 00:53:17,241 --> 00:53:18,206 [Nat speaking] 1118 00:53:24,517 --> 00:53:26,551 -[Laura] Oh. -[Shaun] Whoa, OK. 1119 00:53:26,724 --> 00:53:29,448 I’m happy I wasn't there, you know. 1120 00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:32,793 [Shaun] OK, so Nat, you called Elise a psycho. 1121 00:53:32,965 --> 00:53:34,413 Yes. 1122 00:53:34,586 --> 00:53:37,103 Do you stand by those words today? 1123 00:53:39,586 --> 00:53:42,413 I stand by the psycho word, and I'm laughing now because 1124 00:53:47,413 --> 00:53:49,310 You -- you stood by calling her psycho? 1125 00:53:49,482 --> 00:53:51,758 Yeah. The behavior was erratic. 1126 00:53:51,931 --> 00:53:54,103 So at the time, it was warranted. 1127 00:53:58,689 --> 00:54:01,000 [Elise] Josh, you're pretty quiet. So why don't you speak? 1128 00:54:03,344 --> 00:54:05,448 You know, I felt like the bigger issue was that 1129 00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:07,275 you were, you know, you were a bit jealous 1130 00:54:07,448 --> 00:54:08,965 of our relationship, and I have -- I have apologized -- 1131 00:54:09,103 --> 00:54:11,758 Well, it started off in the wrong foot, getting lied to. 1132 00:54:11,931 --> 00:54:14,068 So therefore, of course I'm gonna feel uncomfortable. 1133 00:54:14,241 --> 00:54:15,655 -Would you guys feel that way? -I would, 100%. 1134 00:54:15,827 --> 00:54:16,965 -I’d feel uncomfortable. -Yeah, I would. 1135 00:54:17,103 --> 00:54:18,620 Elise, Elise, you have every reason. 1136 00:54:18,620 --> 00:54:20,103 -[Emma] You didn't feel secure. -You have every right to be angry. 1137 00:54:20,275 --> 00:54:23,655 I think if I found out that my guy was living with a girl, 1138 00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:25,482 like, I would have acted the same way. 1139 00:54:25,655 --> 00:54:26,517 Thank you. 1140 00:54:26,689 --> 00:54:28,000 Especially after he lied about it. 1141 00:54:28,137 --> 00:54:29,344 [Emma] Yeah. 1142 00:54:29,344 --> 00:54:31,413 And that's funny that, like, he would make fun of me 1143 00:54:31,586 --> 00:54:33,172 for feeling insecure about this. 1144 00:54:33,344 --> 00:54:36,655 Like, you're [bleep] joking that I'm insecure about this. 1145 00:54:36,827 --> 00:54:37,793 -Mm-hmm. -[Elise] And yes, 1146 00:54:37,965 --> 00:54:39,206 they did have an emotional connection. 1147 00:54:39,379 --> 00:54:41,275 Every given [bleep] second they were texting each other, 1148 00:54:41,448 --> 00:54:43,275 and calling each other. -[Joshua] Can you let me speak? 1149 00:54:43,448 --> 00:54:45,413 -[Elise] Yeah. -I didn't -- I didn't waver from you, you were my priority. 1150 00:54:45,586 --> 00:54:48,103 No, you didn't, you left me three or four different times while I was in Australia 1151 00:54:48,275 --> 00:54:50,517 to go run back to Nat. -But I’m also being there for a friend, she was going 1152 00:54:50,689 --> 00:54:52,310 through a really tough time. She was going through a really tough time. 1153 00:54:52,482 --> 00:54:53,586 But you -- you obviously think -- 1154 00:54:53,758 --> 00:54:55,310 Yes, she was, but I was over there visiting you. 1155 00:54:55,482 --> 00:54:56,965 I was hysterical at one point, though. 1156 00:54:57,103 --> 00:54:59,000 So you know, maybe just take 1157 00:54:59,172 --> 00:55:00,862 a bit of consideration for that. 1158 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,241 [Laura] Is Josh the only person you know that could 1159 00:55:03,413 --> 00:55:04,517 give you support? 1160 00:55:06,068 --> 00:55:08,413 No, I have a lot of friends, so, but if -- if... 1161 00:55:08,586 --> 00:55:11,206 That's great, and maybe one of those friends should have been 1162 00:55:11,379 --> 00:55:12,344 the person you leaned on. 1163 00:55:16,482 --> 00:55:18,689 Alright, let's go back to the finances. 1164 00:55:18,862 --> 00:55:22,448 -When Josh came to visit you in Miami, -Yep. 1165 00:55:22,620 --> 00:55:24,413 who paid for things? 1166 00:55:24,586 --> 00:55:26,655 I did, mostly. 1167 00:55:26,827 --> 00:55:29,517 -No, that's -- that's not true at all. -OK, Josh. 1168 00:55:30,655 --> 00:55:33,586 Three sets of flights, dinner, you know. 1169 00:55:33,758 --> 00:55:35,689 Josh, you paid for my birthday dinner in Key West. 1170 00:55:35,862 --> 00:55:37,068 That was it. 1171 00:55:37,241 --> 00:55:39,137 [Joshua speaking] 1172 00:55:39,310 --> 00:55:42,137 Josh, I wasn't doubting you, I was answering a question. 1173 00:55:43,413 --> 00:55:46,482 I know my father’s concerns are very valid. 1174 00:55:46,655 --> 00:55:47,586 What are those? 1175 00:55:49,103 --> 00:55:51,655 I've been used in the past, and, like, 1176 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,241 my dad's money is not money that I can spend on Josh and I. 1177 00:55:57,413 --> 00:55:58,965 Like, it's my dad's money, and, like... 1178 00:55:59,103 --> 00:56:01,655 I fell for you before I even knew about your family history. 1179 00:56:01,827 --> 00:56:03,551 [Elise] Very true. 1180 00:56:03,724 --> 00:56:05,172 [Shaun] So Elise, explain something. 1181 00:56:05,344 --> 00:56:10,206 How much do you depend on your father's support? 1182 00:56:10,379 --> 00:56:13,172 [scoffs] I mean, 1183 00:56:13,344 --> 00:56:16,689 not that much anymore, but my dad supports me. 1184 00:56:16,862 --> 00:56:20,551 Like sometimes I just, you know, write myself a check 1185 00:56:20,724 --> 00:56:23,310 from my trust fund every month and call it a day. 1186 00:56:23,482 --> 00:56:25,172 -OK, OK, listen, listen. -[Rick] Right. 1187 00:56:25,344 --> 00:56:28,793 -[Emma] Damn. -[Shaun] So you are a trust fund baby? 1188 00:56:30,758 --> 00:56:34,172 -If you want to say it like that, kind of. -[Shaun] OK. 1189 00:56:34,344 --> 00:56:36,689 It's like to take care of myself for the rest of my life 1190 00:56:36,862 --> 00:56:38,275 along with the children that I'll have. 1191 00:56:38,448 --> 00:56:40,344 -Like since you were born? -[Elise] Yeah. 1192 00:56:40,517 --> 00:56:41,793 Damn. 1193 00:56:42,862 --> 00:56:43,965 That's -- that's great. 1194 00:56:44,103 --> 00:56:45,586 I -- I'm happy. I -- I don't want it. 1195 00:56:45,758 --> 00:56:47,068 It's not mine. I didn't earn it. 1196 00:56:47,241 --> 00:56:50,000 -I don't deserve it. -[Laura] Hearing this about Elise 1197 00:56:51,137 --> 00:56:54,551 is absolutely mind-blowing to me that Josh's friends would 1198 00:56:54,724 --> 00:56:57,655 have the audacity to say that she's not good enough for him. 1199 00:56:58,793 --> 00:57:00,448 Laura, that's not fair. 1200 00:57:01,586 --> 00:57:02,517 You're basing it on money? 1201 00:57:02,689 --> 00:57:05,000 Yeah, you can't base it on money. 1202 00:57:05,172 --> 00:57:08,448 No, I'm not basing that solely on money, but Elise has 1203 00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:13,965 everything going for her and Josh is the one not stable, 1204 00:57:14,103 --> 00:57:15,517 living in different places. 1205 00:57:15,689 --> 00:57:19,000 And she's willing to give that up and move to Australia. 1206 00:57:19,137 --> 00:57:21,655 There's no way that she's not good enough for him. 1207 00:57:22,689 --> 00:57:26,310 And once again, your father has talked to you about 1208 00:57:26,482 --> 00:57:30,517 his concerns about Josh and finances. 1209 00:57:30,689 --> 00:57:32,482 What has your father said? 1210 00:57:32,655 --> 00:57:33,586 That, like... 1211 00:57:36,896 --> 00:57:39,379 That, like, I can't be stupid. 1212 00:57:39,551 --> 00:57:42,137 And, like, he's not getting me out of trouble again. 1213 00:57:44,103 --> 00:57:46,689 And, like, Josh doesn't want to take my family's money. 1214 00:57:46,862 --> 00:57:48,655 That -- he -- that's not what he wants. 1215 00:57:49,896 --> 00:57:51,586 But, yeah, my dad does have concerns, 1216 00:57:51,758 --> 00:57:54,379 and my dad's concerns are valid. 1217 00:57:54,551 --> 00:57:56,068 My dad has a financial chokehold on me. 1218 00:57:56,241 --> 00:57:58,034 Like, I have to do everything 1219 00:57:58,206 --> 00:57:59,793 right in my dad's eyes to keep the money. 1220 00:58:00,896 --> 00:58:03,310 At least you're not losing your trust fund moving across 1221 00:58:03,482 --> 00:58:06,448 the world, though, are you? -I hope to [bleep] God not. 1222 00:58:06,620 --> 00:58:09,758 Would you be willing to give that up to be with Josh? 1223 00:58:09,931 --> 00:58:10,862 -[Elise] Ooh. -Ooh. 1224 00:58:15,482 --> 00:58:16,517 Oh, God. 1225 00:58:17,689 --> 00:58:18,655 [Shaun] Elise? 1226 00:58:18,827 --> 00:58:20,689 [tense music plays] 1227 00:58:26,793 --> 00:58:28,793 Trish, once again, congratulations 1228 00:58:28,965 --> 00:58:31,793 on your pregnancy. -[Trisha] Thank you. 1229 00:58:31,965 --> 00:58:34,206 So we're all wondering, if Rick is not 1230 00:58:34,379 --> 00:58:37,896 the father, who is? Your ex? 1231 00:58:38,034 --> 00:58:39,655 Um. 1232 00:58:44,931 --> 00:58:48,241 OK, Elise, it seems like you don't want to answer. 1233 00:58:49,965 --> 00:58:52,068 If you had to choose, would you pick Josh 1234 00:58:52,241 --> 00:58:53,724 or your trust fund? 1235 00:58:53,896 --> 00:58:54,862 [inhales] 1236 00:59:00,517 --> 00:59:01,620 Baby, I love you. 1237 00:59:03,896 --> 00:59:06,965 No way, I'd take a trust fund over Josh any day. 1238 00:59:08,862 --> 00:59:11,482 I don't care about -- that's her money. 1239 00:59:11,655 --> 00:59:12,965 I will make my own. 1240 00:59:13,103 --> 00:59:15,103 I made a decision to make my life better and I think 1241 00:59:15,275 --> 00:59:17,931 I've made big steps in doing that, you know? 1242 00:59:18,068 --> 00:59:20,827 I agree, but what I don't like is that I didn't hear 1243 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,448 you defend Elise when they're kind of going back and saying, 1244 00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:26,344 "Yeah, that was psycho in that moment." 1245 00:59:26,517 --> 00:59:28,000 -[Joshua] I did defend Elise. -No, you didn't. 1246 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,896 Well, you're going to Australia. 1247 00:59:32,034 --> 00:59:34,551 Yeah, I'm nervous, but, yeah, I'm excited. 1248 00:59:34,724 --> 00:59:36,000 -I'm super excited. -[Shaun] Well, good. 1249 00:59:36,137 --> 00:59:38,344 Well, we certainly wish you guys the very best. 1250 00:59:38,517 --> 00:59:42,241 It was a rocky road for a minute, but it seems like 1251 00:59:42,413 --> 00:59:44,827 you guys are working things out, so... 1252 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,275 Thank you so much. 1253 00:59:46,275 --> 00:59:49,103 Chris and Nat, we would have felt like a piece of Josh was 1254 00:59:49,275 --> 00:59:51,241 missing if you had not been here today. 1255 00:59:51,413 --> 00:59:53,206 So thank you so much for taking part. 1256 00:59:53,379 --> 00:59:54,586 Thank you for having us. 1257 00:59:59,103 --> 01:00:00,310 OK, everybody, quick break. 1258 01:00:02,241 --> 01:00:03,551 [indistinct background chatter] 1259 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,586 Ugh. 1260 01:00:11,379 --> 01:00:14,103 I'm kind of disappointed in myself that I didn't really 1261 01:00:15,103 --> 01:00:17,965 say all the things I needed to say, because, like, 1262 01:00:18,103 --> 01:00:19,931 I was scared of hurting Josh. 1263 01:00:20,068 --> 01:00:23,137 But I felt like he had Nat's side more than mine. 1264 01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:25,758 It was, like, weird. She's calling me psychotic. 1265 01:00:25,931 --> 01:00:27,068 He's just like, "Yeah, that was psychotic." 1266 01:00:27,241 --> 01:00:29,620 I was expecting more, way more. 1267 01:00:34,827 --> 01:00:37,827 So I texted Josh, and I was like, "I'm glad you really 1268 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,310 didn't defend me when Nat called me a psycho." 1269 01:00:40,482 --> 01:00:42,827 He was like, "You made me feel tiny 1270 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,379 in front of everyone again." 1271 01:00:44,551 --> 01:00:46,724 -[Laura] Tiny? -"I'm glad you chose your trust fund over me." 1272 01:00:46,896 --> 01:00:48,793 -[gasps] When did you? -[Rick] You never answered that. 1273 01:00:48,965 --> 01:00:49,931 [Elise] I didn't even answer that, right? 1274 01:00:50,068 --> 01:00:51,206 -When -- -[Elise] That's what I thought. 1275 01:00:51,206 --> 01:00:52,413 -I didn't answer that. -Right, no, you never did. 1276 01:00:52,586 --> 01:00:55,586 [Laura] 'Cause I will choose your trust fund over Josh. 1277 01:00:55,758 --> 01:00:58,241 I mean, I would choose it over Birkan. 1278 01:00:58,413 --> 01:00:59,655 -Uh-oh. -[Laura laughs] 1279 01:00:59,827 --> 01:01:01,724 [Rick speaking] 1280 01:01:01,896 --> 01:01:03,551 [Laura] Oh, yeah -- no, don't. 1281 01:01:03,724 --> 01:01:05,275 [Rick] I -- I feel like they're on the right path, 1282 01:01:05,448 --> 01:01:07,000 Elise and Joshua. 1283 01:01:07,172 --> 01:01:10,000 He made a lot of promises, and he stepped up. 1284 01:01:10,172 --> 01:01:13,896 But she seems to be like a nitpicker, looking for any 1285 01:01:14,034 --> 01:01:16,379 little thing to be wrong 1286 01:01:16,551 --> 01:01:18,896 'cause she doesn't know what she wants to do. 1287 01:01:30,172 --> 01:01:34,000 Hey, we're a go. Three, two... 1288 01:01:34,172 --> 01:01:38,310 Well, it is time to put Rick and Trisha in the hot seat. 1289 01:01:38,482 --> 01:01:40,344 Trish, once again, congratulations 1290 01:01:40,517 --> 01:01:43,310 on your pregnancy. -[Trisha] Thank you. 1291 01:01:44,413 --> 01:01:47,103 I can tell you are very happy. 1292 01:01:47,275 --> 01:01:48,724 I'm happy I got baby. 1293 01:01:50,137 --> 01:01:53,689 So Rick, you are not the father of Trisha's baby. 1294 01:01:53,862 --> 01:01:55,586 No, I'm not. 1295 01:01:55,758 --> 01:01:56,827 [Shaun] Gosh, this story. 1296 01:01:57,793 --> 01:02:00,862 So we're all wondering, Trish, if Rick is not 1297 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,310 the father, who is? 1298 01:02:03,482 --> 01:02:05,000 Is it your ex? 1299 01:02:05,172 --> 01:02:06,206 [Trisha] No. 1300 01:02:08,379 --> 01:02:11,724 It's someone that I met two months after Rick... 1301 01:02:12,965 --> 01:02:15,413 on vacation and work trip. 1302 01:02:23,758 --> 01:02:27,310 But we stay in touch for the baby. 1303 01:02:29,172 --> 01:02:30,551 [Shaun] OK. 1304 01:02:30,724 --> 01:02:33,172 Rick, have you dated anyone since the breakup? 1305 01:02:33,344 --> 01:02:34,793 My guess would be yes. 1306 01:02:35,965 --> 01:02:37,517 -Of course. -Yes, I have. 1307 01:02:37,689 --> 01:02:39,034 [Shaun] You have? OK. 1308 01:02:39,206 --> 01:02:43,000 [Rick] You know, Trish broke up with me in Madagascar. 1309 01:02:43,172 --> 01:02:44,517 And, um... 1310 01:02:44,689 --> 01:02:48,137 I was sitting in the hotel room alone. 1311 01:02:48,310 --> 01:02:52,034 So instead of sitting there feeling sorry for myself, 1312 01:02:53,448 --> 01:02:55,379 -I went out to a bar. -[Shaun] Mm-hmm. 1313 01:02:55,551 --> 01:02:57,482 What better way to recover from heartbreak? 1314 01:02:57,655 --> 01:03:00,068 [Rick] Before I could even go inside of the bar, 1315 01:03:01,551 --> 01:03:05,034 I saw a beautiful young lady eating chicken. 1316 01:03:10,758 --> 01:03:12,551 It looked good, and I asked her, 1317 01:03:12,724 --> 01:03:14,827 “Hey, that, that fried chicken looks good.” 1318 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,137 -Smelled good, looked good. -"Could I get a taste of that?" 1319 01:03:18,310 --> 01:03:22,034 I bet that was the question. What did you take a bite of? 1320 01:03:22,206 --> 01:03:23,827 Oh, you're talking about just the chicken. 1321 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,068 That came later. 1322 01:03:27,310 --> 01:03:30,068 And how long was this after 1323 01:03:31,137 --> 01:03:32,241 Trish broke up with you? 1324 01:03:33,586 --> 01:03:36,862 It was not the night of the day that she broke up 1325 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,931 with me -- it was the next night. 1326 01:03:39,068 --> 01:03:40,965 Oh, my God. 1327 01:03:41,103 --> 01:03:43,206 Damn, Rick knocking them down, bruh. 1328 01:03:43,379 --> 01:03:44,551 [Shaun] You broke up 1329 01:03:44,724 --> 01:03:47,103 and then the next night, you were with someone else. 1330 01:03:48,896 --> 01:03:50,206 Yes. 1331 01:03:52,689 --> 01:03:55,724 And how soon did you two have sex? 1332 01:04:00,586 --> 01:04:02,000 -[Elise] Oh, no. -Jeez. 1333 01:04:09,827 --> 01:04:11,379 There is something that I've been, like, upset about 1334 01:04:11,551 --> 01:04:13,034 with the whole Rob stuff. 1335 01:04:13,206 --> 01:04:15,310 I found out, like, you tried to hook up with him. 1336 01:04:15,482 --> 01:04:17,965 I feel like I don't know who I can, like, trust. 1337 01:04:18,103 --> 01:04:19,551 You're pointing a finger at me when I didn't do 1338 01:04:19,724 --> 01:04:22,310 anything [bleep] wrong. That guy's not your boyfriend. 1339 01:04:22,482 --> 01:04:24,034 Don't get me mad and attack me! 1340 01:04:29,896 --> 01:04:31,862 Alright, Rick, let me get this straight. 1341 01:04:32,896 --> 01:04:35,862 In the brief time after you and Trish broke up and before 1342 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,413 you said goodbye at the airport, 1343 01:04:37,586 --> 01:04:40,241 you met another woman and had sex. 1344 01:04:42,724 --> 01:04:44,689 Ooh. 1345 01:04:44,862 --> 01:04:46,793 Come on, if you really love someone, you're not about to go 1346 01:04:46,965 --> 01:04:49,517 [bleep] another girl the next night. -[Rick] But it wasn't a break. 1347 01:04:49,689 --> 01:04:51,310 She said that there was no chance of us 1348 01:04:51,482 --> 01:04:52,931 getting back together. 1349 01:04:53,068 --> 01:04:55,586 But didn't you say you wanted to work on it? 1350 01:04:55,758 --> 01:04:57,068 Yes, Laura. 1351 01:04:57,241 --> 01:04:59,310 To me, that doesn't make me feel like you're trying to fix 1352 01:04:59,482 --> 01:05:01,724 it with me if you're sleeping with someone else. 1353 01:05:01,896 --> 01:05:02,931 [Trisha] Totally right, Rick. 1354 01:05:03,068 --> 01:05:05,413 You should have been honest to me, like, oh, 1355 01:05:05,586 --> 01:05:07,310 I already have someone, Trish. 1356 01:05:07,482 --> 01:05:08,827 You shouldn't have giving me, 1357 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,689 and you even kissed me at the airport. 1358 01:05:10,862 --> 01:05:15,034 -Mm-hmm. -Like, "Oh, Trisha, we will work on this relationship." 1359 01:05:15,206 --> 01:05:18,241 -Trish, I still... -And when I got there, and -- and I -- 1360 01:05:18,413 --> 01:05:21,310 and I told you, like, "OK, I'm not 1361 01:05:21,482 --> 01:05:24,724 promising you anything, but, OK, we will work on it." -Right, right. 1362 01:05:25,793 --> 01:05:28,344 [Shaun] OK, Rick, and you continued to have a relationship 1363 01:05:28,517 --> 01:05:30,655 with this woman after you left Madagascar? 1364 01:05:30,827 --> 01:05:31,689 Yes. 1365 01:05:31,862 --> 01:05:33,931 So how long was that relationship? 1366 01:05:34,068 --> 01:05:35,000 [Rick] Um... 1367 01:05:36,241 --> 01:05:37,620 -Five months. -[Shaun] Five months. 1368 01:05:38,862 --> 01:05:41,517 We just broke up a couple months ago. 1369 01:05:41,689 --> 01:05:43,655 And during that five-month period, 1370 01:05:43,827 --> 01:05:45,517 were you talking to Trisha? 1371 01:05:46,827 --> 01:05:50,241 Yeah, two weeks after he got back to United States, 1372 01:05:50,413 --> 01:05:54,689 we still talking. -So Trish was the ex? 1373 01:05:54,862 --> 01:05:57,344 But I was completely honest with her. 1374 01:05:57,517 --> 01:05:59,344 This woman was from Madagascar? 1375 01:05:59,517 --> 01:06:00,724 From Madagascar. 1376 01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:02,758 [Shaun] OK, did you go back over and visit her? 1377 01:06:02,931 --> 01:06:05,586 No, but we took a trip to Hong Kong. 1378 01:06:05,758 --> 01:06:09,034 Oh, OK. So you guys were on a trip. 1379 01:06:09,206 --> 01:06:10,310 Which is supposed to be my birthday trip. 1380 01:06:10,482 --> 01:06:12,517 -Which was -- yes. -Wait a minute, what? 1381 01:06:13,931 --> 01:06:16,310 -What? -Ouch. 1382 01:06:16,482 --> 01:06:18,413 So you guys planned the trip to Hong Kong together? 1383 01:06:18,586 --> 01:06:22,586 You know, before Rick left my country, we were talking, 1384 01:06:22,758 --> 01:06:25,655 like, "On your birthday, we are going to Hong Kong 1385 01:06:25,827 --> 01:06:29,482 "and have fun and go to Disneyland 1386 01:06:29,655 --> 01:06:30,758 and something like that." 1387 01:06:30,931 --> 01:06:34,241 And I found out later that he went with the girl. 1388 01:06:34,413 --> 01:06:35,758 [Shaun] Oh. 1389 01:06:37,448 --> 01:06:39,862 She was in Indonesia while I was in Hong Kong. 1390 01:06:40,931 --> 01:06:42,517 Trish, what were you doing in Indonesia? 1391 01:06:42,689 --> 01:06:45,103 I was with the guy, the baby daddy. 1392 01:06:45,275 --> 01:06:46,310 [Laura] OK. 1393 01:06:46,482 --> 01:06:50,448 -Oh. -OK, so it's not like as bad. 1394 01:06:50,620 --> 01:06:55,827 OK, who here thinks Rick moves on really fast? 1395 01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,517 -Let me see the show of hands. -I love Rick's honesty. 1396 01:07:00,689 --> 01:07:03,551 -[Jovon] Rick. -I do, I raise two hands. 1397 01:07:03,724 --> 01:07:04,620 You my boy, man. 1398 01:07:04,793 --> 01:07:06,965 -But that was pretty quick, man. -Yes. 1399 01:07:07,965 --> 01:07:10,965 I worry about you guys. Like, why? 1400 01:07:11,103 --> 01:07:13,655 -Like. -I have a fear of being alone. 1401 01:07:13,827 --> 01:07:15,551 Then get married! 1402 01:07:15,724 --> 01:07:17,379 I'm trying to find my wife, 1403 01:07:17,551 --> 01:07:19,827 and I thought I found her in Trish. 1404 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,068 -Oh. -You lied to her. 1405 01:07:22,241 --> 01:07:23,827 She could have been your wife. 1406 01:07:25,172 --> 01:07:26,586 -You know? -She wanted to be. 1407 01:07:26,758 --> 01:07:27,931 [Rick] That's true. 1408 01:07:27,931 --> 01:07:30,931 That's -- that's why I know I made a big mistake. 1409 01:07:33,379 --> 01:07:37,068 [Shaun] Speaking of big mistakes, let's talk about one Rick made 1410 01:07:37,241 --> 01:07:38,655 in the bedroom. 1411 01:07:38,827 --> 01:07:41,931 There was something Rick brought along with him 1412 01:07:42,068 --> 01:07:45,896 to Madagascar that may have caught viewers off guard. 1413 01:07:46,034 --> 01:07:48,655 Let's look back at that awkward exchange. 1414 01:07:48,827 --> 01:07:49,793 Oh, my God. 1415 01:07:54,793 --> 01:07:55,827 Hey, what are you doing? 1416 01:07:57,172 --> 01:07:58,344 [Trisha speaking] 1417 01:07:59,931 --> 01:08:04,241 Trish let me know that she's a [bleep], you know, 1418 01:08:04,413 --> 01:08:05,896 a female ejaculator. 1419 01:08:07,689 --> 01:08:09,275 Oh. 1420 01:08:10,413 --> 01:08:13,137 What? Oh, my God, so. 1421 01:08:13,310 --> 01:08:14,206 [Rick speaking] 1422 01:08:18,033 --> 01:08:20,586 -I think that's hilarious. -[Annalyn] Oh, my god! 1423 01:08:20,758 --> 01:08:23,206 -A giant slip and slide. -[Shaun] OK. 1424 01:08:23,379 --> 01:08:27,620 Has anyone else ever heard of the splash pad? 1425 01:08:27,792 --> 01:08:28,689 -Never. -[Shaun] No? 1426 01:08:28,862 --> 01:08:30,103 -[Emma] No. -No. 1427 01:08:30,274 --> 01:08:33,689 -I am a vanilla, so I don't. -[Rick] He's -- he's vanilla. 1428 01:08:33,862 --> 01:08:34,862 No, I'm not vanilla. 1429 01:08:34,862 --> 01:08:36,862 I'm dark chocolate when it comes to that. 1430 01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:42,930 So is this something that you travel with? 1431 01:08:43,068 --> 01:08:44,482 -Rick? -[Rick] Um... 1432 01:08:44,654 --> 01:08:48,136 Like, did you take it when you went 1433 01:08:48,310 --> 01:08:51,758 to see your other friends? -Oh, no. 1434 01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:53,171 [Laura] Was it brand new? 1435 01:08:53,344 --> 01:08:54,344 You did not reuse it, Rick, please. 1436 01:08:54,517 --> 01:08:55,448 Or was it reused? 1437 01:08:59,103 --> 01:09:00,827 -[Elise] He's... -[Shaun] Oh, Rick. 1438 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,274 I mean, we reuse sheets, don't we? We put them 1439 01:09:03,448 --> 01:09:06,136 in the washing machine. -[all] Oh, God -- oh, my God. 1440 01:09:06,310 --> 01:09:08,000 -[all exclaiming] -[Forrest] Oh, no. 1441 01:09:08,136 --> 01:09:10,586 Yeah, he have used it with his ex. 1442 01:09:12,965 --> 01:09:14,274 [Shaun] Oh, Rick. 1443 01:09:14,448 --> 01:09:16,586 -Rick! -Nasty. 1444 01:09:16,758 --> 01:09:17,689 [Elise] Yup. 1445 01:09:17,862 --> 01:09:21,344 OK, so let's talk about this woman. 1446 01:09:21,517 --> 01:09:24,895 Rick went back to her after five days 1447 01:09:25,033 --> 01:09:27,724 of not hearing from Trish. 1448 01:09:27,895 --> 01:09:29,206 Does that seem abrupt? 1449 01:09:30,930 --> 01:09:33,724 [Aviva] Missing for five days, that's a little sketchy. 1450 01:09:33,895 --> 01:09:36,689 But you still shouldn't have gone as far as going all 1451 01:09:36,862 --> 01:09:39,551 the way to Colombia. -I admit to that. 1452 01:09:39,724 --> 01:09:41,448 I made a lot of mistakes with Trish, 1453 01:09:42,689 --> 01:09:45,103 but I didn't go at that time. 1454 01:09:45,274 --> 01:09:46,724 Oh, you didn't go in that five days? 1455 01:09:46,895 --> 01:09:48,895 I just booked it for a future date. 1456 01:09:49,033 --> 01:09:52,620 So when you went on that trip in a future date, were you back 1457 01:09:52,792 --> 01:09:53,792 to talking with Trish? -[Rick] Yeah. 1458 01:09:54,896 --> 01:09:56,206 We were back to talking. 1459 01:09:56,379 --> 01:09:58,000 But you still went on the trip? 1460 01:09:58,137 --> 01:10:02,689 Yes, exactly. We were talking back. 1461 01:10:02,862 --> 01:10:05,517 -That's really bad. -I was -- I was confused. 1462 01:10:06,793 --> 01:10:08,172 We hadn't met in person yet. 1463 01:10:08,344 --> 01:10:10,172 We hadn't consummated our relationship. 1464 01:10:10,344 --> 01:10:13,034 No, but after, you were lying on the bed with me when 1465 01:10:13,206 --> 01:10:15,827 you pick up her call and texting her, like, 1466 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,413 "Oh, the great time I had was with you. 1467 01:10:18,586 --> 01:10:19,551 I miss you, baby." 1468 01:10:21,620 --> 01:10:23,758 Because I didn't want her to keep calling. 1469 01:10:23,931 --> 01:10:27,034 You could have just declined or not answering the call. 1470 01:10:27,206 --> 01:10:29,000 -You don't care. -I -- I was. That's what I did at first. 1471 01:10:29,137 --> 01:10:30,724 I declined like five calls. 1472 01:10:30,896 --> 01:10:32,379 But you did, you did. You answered the call. 1473 01:10:32,551 --> 01:10:35,551 And then -- and then she didn't stop until I -- until I texted her. 1474 01:10:35,724 --> 01:10:37,034 Why would you care? So why would you care? 1475 01:10:37,206 --> 01:10:39,344 She's your ex, though, and we were lying 1476 01:10:39,517 --> 01:10:40,586 in the same bed. 1477 01:10:41,551 --> 01:10:44,241 Am I the only person in the that's had feelings 1478 01:10:44,413 --> 01:10:47,896 with multiple people at once? -No, he's not the first guy. 1479 01:10:48,034 --> 01:10:50,827 -He's not the first person. -No, hell no. 1480 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,931 So Rick, when was the last time you talked 1481 01:10:53,068 --> 01:10:54,689 to your Colombian ex? 1482 01:10:55,862 --> 01:10:56,862 Um... 1483 01:10:58,068 --> 01:10:59,724 I haven't talked to her for months. 1484 01:10:59,896 --> 01:11:01,137 OK. 1485 01:11:01,137 --> 01:11:05,344 And have you and Trisha had any conversations about 1486 01:11:05,517 --> 01:11:06,758 getting back together? 1487 01:11:06,931 --> 01:11:07,896 Yes, we have. 1488 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,620 We've talked about future plans. 1489 01:11:11,793 --> 01:11:13,517 Now you're willing to take care of someone 1490 01:11:13,689 --> 01:11:15,551 else's baby. -That's a lot. 1491 01:11:15,724 --> 01:11:18,344 Yeah, right now we have a baby involved. 1492 01:11:18,517 --> 01:11:21,172 Are you gonna 100% be dedicated and take care 1493 01:11:21,344 --> 01:11:24,206 of her and this baby as your own? -I -- I can. 1494 01:11:24,379 --> 01:11:27,379 I'm -- I'm waiting on Trisha's decision about 1495 01:11:28,413 --> 01:11:31,551 whether or not she'll allow me to go see her again. 1496 01:11:31,724 --> 01:11:32,862 Ooh. 1497 01:11:35,034 --> 01:11:37,034 Trisha, how do you feel about that? 1498 01:11:37,206 --> 01:11:38,103 Do you want him to come? 1499 01:11:40,241 --> 01:11:41,448 [Trisha] Hmm. 1500 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,689 By all means, I would -- if I was Trish, I would never accept you back. 1501 01:12:01,862 --> 01:12:04,379 You'd be blocked on my phone, and I would literally tell 1502 01:12:04,551 --> 01:12:06,344 you to go [bleep] off. -[Emma] I would take him back. 1503 01:12:08,344 --> 01:12:09,758 [Shaun] And why is that, Emma? 1504 01:12:09,931 --> 01:12:12,655 He's acknowledged all of his mistakes, and even though 1505 01:12:12,827 --> 01:12:17,241 he has that he's not proud of, he really does love Trish. 1506 01:12:17,413 --> 01:12:18,965 Woman to woman, I wouldn't. 1507 01:12:20,172 --> 01:12:23,344 Just because some people, they have this pattern, 1508 01:12:23,517 --> 01:12:25,448 they keep doing it like an addiction. 1509 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,965 He's weak in the flesh. 1510 01:12:29,103 --> 01:12:31,827 There's this itchiness that he needs to scratch. 1511 01:12:34,241 --> 01:12:37,827 OK, who thinks there is a future for this relationship? 1512 01:12:40,275 --> 01:12:42,034 You gotta put in a lot of work. 1513 01:12:42,206 --> 01:12:44,931 I believe in my boy. I believe in you, Rick. 1514 01:12:45,068 --> 01:12:47,000 [Rick] I think there's a very good chance that Trish 1515 01:12:47,137 --> 01:12:48,310 will take me back. 1516 01:12:48,482 --> 01:12:51,310 I'm not gonna lie, I have feelings for him, 1517 01:12:51,482 --> 01:12:56,241 but I'm not ready to put him in my life. 1518 01:12:58,724 --> 01:13:01,689 ...and I'm really happy, and I don't want anyone 1519 01:13:01,862 --> 01:13:03,620 to change how I feel right now. 1520 01:13:05,724 --> 01:13:06,827 [Shaun] OK. 1521 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,896 What a rollercoaster this has been for you both. 1522 01:13:10,034 --> 01:13:13,000 We wish you luck with everything, and Trisha, 1523 01:13:13,137 --> 01:13:15,724 please take care during your pregnancy. 1524 01:13:15,896 --> 01:13:18,310 -Congratulations once again. -Thank you so much. 1525 01:13:19,689 --> 01:13:22,517 Well, that is all the time we have on "Before the 90 Days," 1526 01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:23,965 the Couples Tell All. 1527 01:13:24,103 --> 01:13:25,896 -Bring out the tequila. -Whoo! 1528 01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:30,379 [Shaun] Alright, I wanna thank all of the couples 1529 01:13:30,551 --> 01:13:32,482 as well as their friends and families 1530 01:13:32,655 --> 01:13:34,241 for sharing their journeys with us. 1531 01:13:34,413 --> 01:13:36,448 -Such a queen. -Thank you. 1532 01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:38,758 -Thank you. -I'm Shaun Robinson. 1533 01:13:38,931 --> 01:13:41,862 Thank you so much for watching, and I'll see you next time. 1534 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:42,931 Thank you. 1535 01:13:43,068 --> 01:13:44,551 Thank you. You're awesome. 1536 01:13:44,724 --> 01:13:46,655 You're amazing. I'm glad I got to meet you. 1537 01:13:46,827 --> 01:13:48,103 Bye-bye. 1538 01:13:50,620 --> 01:13:52,000 Yo, Rick, what's up, man? 1539 01:13:52,172 --> 01:13:53,793 Hey, Forrest, what you think, man? 1540 01:13:53,965 --> 01:13:55,206 -We're all done with this. -[Forrest] Man... 1541 01:13:55,379 --> 01:13:56,896 I thought today went really, really well. 1542 01:13:57,034 --> 01:13:59,413 I got your sparkles all over me, bro. 1543 01:13:59,586 --> 01:14:02,344 And you had so much stuff going on, man. 1544 01:14:02,517 --> 01:14:05,275 You're frickin' coming back around, and you're trying 1545 01:14:05,448 --> 01:14:07,862 your best to, you know, be a good man for Trish. 1546 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,551 I just hope I get that opportunity to go back 1547 01:14:10,724 --> 01:14:14,103 to Madagascar and get on my hands and knees and show it. 1548 01:14:17,448 --> 01:14:19,448 ♪♪ 1549 01:14:22,793 --> 01:14:24,241 [Emma and Elise speaking] 1550 01:14:30,586 --> 01:14:33,172 You know, I know that we've become friends recently. 1551 01:14:34,172 --> 01:14:36,172 And, like, I really... 1552 01:14:36,344 --> 01:14:38,068 I really, like, value a friendship with you. 1553 01:14:39,551 --> 01:14:41,689 But there is something that I've been, like, upset about 1554 01:14:41,862 --> 01:14:43,137 with the whole Rob stuff. -OK. 1555 01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:47,689 'Cause, you know, obviously I told you about us hooking up 1556 01:14:47,862 --> 01:14:50,689 and, you know, everything that happened with me and him. 1557 01:14:50,862 --> 01:14:55,724 But then I found out, like, shortly after I told you, 1558 01:14:55,896 --> 01:14:58,344 you tried to hook up with him. -I tried to hook up with him? 1559 01:14:58,517 --> 01:15:00,103 -Mm-hmm. -[Elise] That's not true. 1560 01:15:00,275 --> 01:15:02,068 He, like, showed me. 1561 01:15:02,241 --> 01:15:04,655 And it was multiple screenshots. 1562 01:15:04,827 --> 01:15:07,172 [Elise] OK, then call him. Get a screenshot. 1563 01:15:07,344 --> 01:15:08,620 [Emma] I can, but I'm just -- 1564 01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:10,551 I'd rather, like, talk to you about it because I thought 1565 01:15:10,724 --> 01:15:11,862 we were, like, building a friendship. 1566 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,517 And it's just, like, it's just something that 1567 01:15:13,689 --> 01:15:14,896 bothered me when I heard that, 1568 01:15:15,034 --> 01:15:16,310 that you were trying to hook up with him. 1569 01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:18,241 I wasn't trying to hook up with him, so I don't know why 1570 01:15:18,413 --> 01:15:20,034 he's telling you that. 1571 01:15:20,206 --> 01:15:22,275 I promise you I wasn't trying to hook up with him. 1572 01:15:22,448 --> 01:15:23,689 I was not. 1573 01:15:23,689 --> 01:15:25,551 I did talk to him at a party, like, a couple weeks ago, 1574 01:15:25,724 --> 01:15:29,137 like, about our past year and, like, how we're doing. 1575 01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:31,620 But after that conversation happened at the party, 1576 01:15:31,793 --> 01:15:33,551 he said that you were trying to hook up with him and you were 1577 01:15:33,724 --> 01:15:34,862 trying to Uber him to your hotel room. 1578 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,172 That's not true. 1579 01:15:36,172 --> 01:15:37,551 And you were, like, saying, like, "Oh, I'm so sad 1580 01:15:37,724 --> 01:15:38,689 "that you can't come to my room. 1581 01:15:38,862 --> 01:15:39,931 Like, just come and cuddle with me." 1582 01:15:39,931 --> 01:15:43,344 OK, that's not true. And that's [bleep] crazy. 1583 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,137 This is just so annoying. 1584 01:15:49,310 --> 01:15:50,275 So don't talk about it anymore. 1585 01:15:50,448 --> 01:15:51,931 No, because it's just so annoying. 1586 01:15:52,068 --> 01:15:53,275 [Elise] But -- 1587 01:15:53,275 --> 01:15:55,482 This is just, like, a hard situation for me because 1588 01:15:55,655 --> 01:15:57,448 it's, like, I just, I feel like I don't know who I can, 1589 01:15:57,620 --> 01:15:59,103 like, trust. You know what I mean? 1590 01:15:59,275 --> 01:16:01,448 Like, I have this guy, like, yeah, we're just hooking up, 1591 01:16:01,620 --> 01:16:03,344 but I developed real feelings for him. 1592 01:16:03,517 --> 01:16:06,413 And when I met you, you know, like, I really cared 1593 01:16:06,586 --> 01:16:08,000 about a friendship with you, you know? 1594 01:16:08,137 --> 01:16:09,620 And then when I heard that right away, I'm just, 1595 01:16:09,620 --> 01:16:12,241 like, you know, it just feels like everyone's just [bleep] on me. 1596 01:16:14,034 --> 01:16:16,620 The vibe I'm getting from Emma right now seems fake and, like, 1597 01:16:16,793 --> 01:16:18,034 I don't care about Rob. 1598 01:16:18,206 --> 01:16:19,758 Like, do you just think you're that hot [bleep]? 1599 01:16:19,931 --> 01:16:20,827 Like, bitch, you're not. 1600 01:16:24,862 --> 01:16:26,862 This is actually some crazy [bleep] right here. 1601 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,000 I think Josh probably slept with Emma. 1602 01:16:29,172 --> 01:16:30,275 Wait, what? 1603 01:16:30,448 --> 01:16:31,448 -Josh? -You think? 1604 01:16:31,448 --> 01:16:32,862 [both] You think Josh slept with Emma? 1605 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,068 -[Forrest] Mm-hmm. -No way. 1606 01:16:34,241 --> 01:16:35,206 No, no, I don't think so. 1607 01:16:35,379 --> 01:16:37,310 I mean, why else would she be so, like, 1608 01:16:37,482 --> 01:16:39,000 angry about it? 1609 01:16:39,172 --> 01:16:40,206 Hold on. I wanna hear. 1610 01:16:41,172 --> 01:16:42,827 Like, I'm sorry you're hurt, but that's just 1611 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,827 inaccurate information. The guy [bleep] is known to be a [bleep] liar. 1612 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,000 I don't want him. 1613 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,586 I have a boyfriend. 1614 01:16:50,758 --> 01:16:53,137 The last thing I want is a [bleep] short man. 1615 01:16:53,310 --> 01:16:55,793 I'm sorry you're hurt, and I'm sorry you heard wrong. 1616 01:16:55,965 --> 01:16:57,103 I don't know what else to say. 1617 01:16:58,344 --> 01:17:01,551 I also didn't bring up at all any of this talk, 'cause 1618 01:17:01,724 --> 01:17:03,275 I knew you didn't wanna talk about it, and I've respected 1619 01:17:03,448 --> 01:17:04,517 you about that. -[Emma] I understand that. 1620 01:17:04,517 --> 01:17:05,827 I don't know what point you're trying to make. 1621 01:17:05,827 --> 01:17:07,448 So I think it's very weird that you're trying to play this, 1622 01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:08,896 like, sad cry girl. 1623 01:17:09,034 --> 01:17:10,413 "Like, poor me. I'm the victim." 1624 01:17:10,586 --> 01:17:12,310 You're pointing a finger at me when I didn't do 1625 01:17:12,482 --> 01:17:14,586 anything [bleep] wrong. I'm not [bleep] Rob. -Don’t, don't raise your voice. 1626 01:17:14,758 --> 01:17:16,931 -Girl, I'm not taking blame for something I didn't do. -[Emma] Don't raise -- 1627 01:17:17,068 --> 01:17:19,034 -I didn't do [bleep]. -[Emma] Don't raise your -- don't raise your voice at me. 1628 01:17:19,206 --> 01:17:20,586 But I didn't do [bleep] [bleep]. 1629 01:17:20,758 --> 01:17:22,344 -Don't -- don't raise -- -Don't get me mad and attack me. 1630 01:17:22,517 --> 01:17:24,551 -Don't -- I -- I'm attacking you? -That guy's not your boyfriend. 1631 01:17:24,724 --> 01:17:27,000 He's [bleep] able to do whatever the [bleep] he wants. 1632 01:17:33,275 --> 01:17:35,000 -[Elise] I didn't do [bleep]. -[Emma] Don't raise your voice at me. 1633 01:17:35,137 --> 01:17:36,827 But I didn't do [bleep] [bleep]. Don't get me mad and attack me. 1634 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,724 -I'm attacking you? -That guy's not your boyfriend. 1635 01:17:38,896 --> 01:17:41,379 -He's [bleep] able to do whatever the [bleep] he wants. -[Emma] I'm attacking you? 1636 01:17:41,551 --> 01:17:43,241 You're hooking up with other guys, who the [bleep] cares? 1637 01:17:43,413 --> 01:17:45,310 -[Emma] I'm attacking you? -[Aviva] You OK? 1638 01:17:45,482 --> 01:17:46,724 Yeah, I'm fine. 1639 01:17:46,724 --> 01:17:48,275 You know today when you're with Stig and you're getting 1640 01:17:48,448 --> 01:17:49,758 blamed for something you didn't do? 1641 01:17:49,758 --> 01:17:51,517 -That's how I feel right now. -Elise, but I'm asking you. 1642 01:17:51,689 --> 01:17:53,103 -I'm not. -[Elise] But I'm telling you the answer. 1643 01:17:53,103 --> 01:17:55,172 -[Emma] I'm not -- -And how many other times -- are you leaving? 1644 01:17:55,344 --> 01:17:56,413 [Forrest] Yeah, I was getting ready to go. 1645 01:17:56,586 --> 01:17:58,000 And I heard you guys chatting it up. 1646 01:17:58,137 --> 01:18:00,758 -And I just thought I would -- hi. -[Elise] Come in. 1647 01:18:00,931 --> 01:18:02,000 [Forrest] I'm not trying to make 1648 01:18:02,172 --> 01:18:03,172 it a party, it's just. 1649 01:18:03,344 --> 01:18:04,655 So how do you wanna end this conversation? 1650 01:18:04,827 --> 01:18:06,068 'Cause I didn't do that. 1651 01:18:06,068 --> 01:18:07,344 And I'm not gonna get blamed for something I didn't do. 1652 01:18:07,517 --> 01:18:08,689 -And I didn't do it. -I didn't blame you. 1653 01:18:08,862 --> 01:18:10,724 Did I come and say, "Hey, Elise, you're a whore. 1654 01:18:10,896 --> 01:18:12,275 You did this?" No, I didn't. 1655 01:18:12,448 --> 01:18:14,551 [Forrest] I just wanted to say goodnight to you. 1656 01:18:14,724 --> 01:18:16,310 [Elise] Oh, amazing. 1657 01:18:16,482 --> 01:18:19,172 -[Forrest] I promise I would say goodnight to you. -Bye, Forrest. 1658 01:18:19,344 --> 01:18:20,965 You know, I'm sorry [bleep] going down. 1659 01:18:21,103 --> 01:18:23,448 -Can I say goodnight to you? -[Elise and Aviva] Yes. 1660 01:18:23,620 --> 01:18:26,310 -[Aviva] I just wanted to say -- -[Forrest] I -- it was -- I had such a fun time meeting you. 1661 01:18:26,482 --> 01:18:28,206 -[Elise] Oh, it was so nice meeting you. -[Forrest] And I just wanna 1662 01:18:28,379 --> 01:18:31,793 thank you for everything and I'm glad that you and Josh are together and work out. 1663 01:18:31,965 --> 01:18:34,000 [Elise speaking] 1664 01:18:34,172 --> 01:18:36,689 I don't know 100% what's going on. 1665 01:18:36,862 --> 01:18:40,137 And so I'm like, "Oh, my God, OK, fine, I'm just gonna 1666 01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:42,206 end this right now. I'll just get back home." 1667 01:18:43,551 --> 01:18:48,379 So, uh, that's some crazy-ass [bleep] going on here. 1668 01:18:48,551 --> 01:18:51,310 Well, it seems like something is going on with maybe like 1669 01:18:51,482 --> 01:18:53,517 a guy kind of named Rob. 1670 01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:55,655 I don't know what the [bleep] is going on, but hey, 1671 01:18:55,827 --> 01:18:58,655 we had a tell-all, we gotta tell all. 1672 01:18:58,827 --> 01:19:00,068 But I'm glad I'm totally in love, 1673 01:19:00,241 --> 01:19:02,103 and I'm getting the [bleep] out of here. 1674 01:19:08,034 --> 01:19:10,206 So leaving here, I'm finally 1675 01:19:11,275 --> 01:19:15,344 you know, getting my dreams and Sheena's dreams figured out 1676 01:19:15,517 --> 01:19:16,517 with the K-1 visa. 1677 01:19:17,896 --> 01:19:20,241 And I want Sheena here 10 billion percent. 1678 01:19:29,793 --> 01:19:30,793 Did I wanna confront you? No. 1679 01:19:30,965 --> 01:19:31,896 Because, yeah, is he my boyfriend? 1680 01:19:32,034 --> 01:19:33,068 No, he's not. 1681 01:19:33,241 --> 01:19:34,448 -[Laura] I just... -[Emma] It doesn't matter. 1682 01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:36,896 I know every single one of us in this little room tends 1683 01:19:37,034 --> 01:19:39,586 to say things we don't always mean when we get up to here. 1684 01:19:39,758 --> 01:19:41,172 -And we've been... -[Elise] I just wish this was, like -- 1685 01:19:41,344 --> 01:19:44,482 We've been having each other's backs this entire tell-all. 1686 01:19:47,931 --> 01:19:49,241 Today was a lot. 1687 01:19:51,103 --> 01:19:55,482 I wasn't expecting to have such a heated exchange with Michal. 1688 01:19:57,689 --> 01:20:00,413 And I was shocked when Birkan 1689 01:20:00,586 --> 01:20:03,586 said he paid off that debt in full. 1690 01:20:03,758 --> 01:20:06,241 -It was so, so wonderful meeting you. -[Rick] OK, Laura, yeah, you -- 1691 01:20:06,413 --> 01:20:08,000 yes, you too. 1692 01:20:08,172 --> 01:20:10,724 But our communication hasn't been super great, 1693 01:20:10,896 --> 01:20:12,275 this whole time. 1694 01:20:12,448 --> 01:20:15,413 To find out, like, he paid for the apartment 1695 01:20:15,586 --> 01:20:17,655 he's living with his parents in. 1696 01:20:17,827 --> 01:20:19,931 I don't understand why that never came out. 1697 01:20:21,068 --> 01:20:24,068 In a way, it makes me look at him a little bit differently, 1698 01:20:24,241 --> 01:20:26,965 and it creates more doubt. 1699 01:20:27,103 --> 01:20:28,137 I don't like that. 1700 01:20:54,965 --> 01:20:58,827 I feel a little bit bad because, like, I took 1701 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,344 everything I had out on her when it really should have 1702 01:21:01,517 --> 01:21:04,793 been directed at Rob. I mean, he lied to her. 1703 01:21:04,965 --> 01:21:07,724 She did not do anything wrong, and she got the wrath of Elise, 1704 01:21:07,896 --> 01:21:08,827 and that was not appropriate. 1705 01:21:13,448 --> 01:21:14,586 [Rick] Bye, guys. 1706 01:21:15,517 --> 01:21:19,137 I don't think I made any grounds today with Trish. 1707 01:21:21,620 --> 01:21:23,931 I still believe that there is a chance. 1708 01:21:24,068 --> 01:21:26,689 It's just a matter of getting that invitation from her. 1709 01:21:28,724 --> 01:21:29,724 It's cold out here. 1710 01:21:33,655 --> 01:21:35,896 No, there's no one else in my life. 1711 01:21:44,862 --> 01:21:48,275 She's been encouraging me to go see other people 1712 01:21:48,448 --> 01:21:49,758 and not to wait on her. 1713 01:21:49,931 --> 01:21:52,344 I don't know how long I can wait. 1714 01:21:54,241 --> 01:21:56,517 She's really special to me, but... 1715 01:21:59,413 --> 01:22:01,206 life is lonely. 1716 01:22:09,103 --> 01:22:12,000 Stig's toxicity and the way he thinks 1717 01:22:12,137 --> 01:22:14,172 and his double standards are just, 1718 01:22:14,344 --> 01:22:15,758 like, not OK, 1719 01:22:15,931 --> 01:22:19,517 but I still have feelings for him, and I'm not gonna sit 1720 01:22:19,689 --> 01:22:21,034 there and deny it. Like... 1721 01:22:22,206 --> 01:22:24,103 -I love you. -[Emma] I'm gonna miss you. 1722 01:22:24,275 --> 01:22:25,344 [Aviva] I’m gonna miss you, too. 1723 01:22:25,344 --> 01:22:27,689 I'm not really in the mood to date right now. 1724 01:22:27,862 --> 01:22:30,000 I wish we just could have figured it out. 1725 01:22:31,931 --> 01:22:33,551 Sorry. God, I'm so emotional. 1726 01:22:33,724 --> 01:22:35,517 -I'm tired of crying. -[Emma] Alright, love you. 1727 01:22:35,689 --> 01:22:36,931 -OK, I love you. -[Emma] Alright, bye. 1728 01:22:37,068 --> 01:22:38,344 Bye. 1729 01:22:40,827 --> 01:22:45,586 I'm so ready to get home, take a warm shower 1730 01:22:45,758 --> 01:22:48,965 and forget about this. 1731 01:22:49,103 --> 01:22:51,206 I have so many questions for Joshua, and I don't know 1732 01:22:51,379 --> 01:22:52,517 where we stand. 1733 01:22:52,689 --> 01:22:53,827 Like, I'm genuinely wondering, 1734 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,482 like, what he's feeling right now. 1735 01:22:56,655 --> 01:22:59,344 It wasn't like he was horrible to me. 1736 01:22:59,517 --> 01:23:01,103 We're not breaking up. 1737 01:23:01,275 --> 01:23:02,862 I just have done so much for this guy. 1738 01:23:08,965 --> 01:23:10,862 It's just a spit in the face, you know? 1739 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,689 When you do contribute, and then you're being made out 1740 01:23:13,862 --> 01:23:16,620 to be like, you know, I didn't contribute anything. 1741 01:23:16,793 --> 01:23:20,068 You know, we all haven't had it served to us on a platter. 1742 01:23:20,241 --> 01:23:22,034 [Elise] He said, "I can't do this fighting. 1743 01:23:22,206 --> 01:23:23,344 "I wanna have kids with you. 1744 01:23:23,517 --> 01:23:25,103 "You're focusing on all the bull[bleep]. 1745 01:23:25,275 --> 01:23:26,379 I do not wanna fight with you." 1746 01:23:28,241 --> 01:23:30,103 And now leaving here, I'm like, 1747 01:23:30,275 --> 01:23:32,344 [bleep], am I going back to Australia, going back 1748 01:23:32,517 --> 01:23:36,000 into the trap that we were in? Is this like going backwards? 1749 01:23:38,206 --> 01:23:39,620 Oh, my God, what a day! 1750 01:23:40,965 --> 01:23:43,758 It gave me PTSD to see Ziad again. 1751 01:23:43,931 --> 01:23:45,068 I did not like it. 1752 01:23:46,068 --> 01:23:47,379 We have nothing left to say. 1753 01:23:47,379 --> 01:23:50,655 I feel like I can leave here, and I got it all out there, 1754 01:23:50,827 --> 01:23:52,965 and we can finally move forward 1755 01:23:53,103 --> 01:23:54,379 and end this relationship for good. 1756 01:23:55,482 --> 01:23:56,655 Still haven't found the one. 1757 01:23:56,655 --> 01:23:58,965 I'm still not engaged, still not married, still not 1758 01:23:59,103 --> 01:24:01,137 in a relationship, so I'm ready to put myself 1759 01:24:01,310 --> 01:24:05,206 out there and start dating again. 1760 01:24:05,379 --> 01:24:07,000 [Elise] Hey, girl. 1761 01:24:07,172 --> 01:24:08,137 -[Emma] Hey. -[Elise] I'm gonna leave. 1762 01:24:08,137 --> 01:24:09,517 [Emma] Yeah, I think I'm gonna go, too. 1763 01:24:10,551 --> 01:24:12,344 [Elise] Alright, let's [bleep] go. 1764 01:24:12,517 --> 01:24:14,482 -Let's go. -Let's [bleep] go. 1765 01:24:14,655 --> 01:24:15,586 [Emma] What a day. 1766 01:24:17,931 --> 01:24:19,517 [indistinct background chatter] 1767 01:24:19,689 --> 01:24:22,241 [Lisa] I'm leaving as is. I don't give a [bleep]. 1768 01:24:22,413 --> 01:24:26,068 I’m done, oh, God. 1769 01:24:26,241 --> 01:24:28,000 Bitch, it's over. That's all I gotta say. 1770 01:24:28,172 --> 01:24:30,862 It's over. I am so done. 1771 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,310 I lost a love I thought I had, 1772 01:24:33,482 --> 01:24:35,241 but I don't have a master anymore. 1773 01:24:35,413 --> 01:24:37,413 I have a boyfriend. I have Ty. 1774 01:24:38,724 --> 01:24:42,275 I'm going back in a healthy way to live in Nigeria 1775 01:24:42,448 --> 01:24:44,310 with my new man. 1776 01:24:44,482 --> 01:24:46,896 So [bleep] Daniel, I may be going to his country, 1777 01:24:47,034 --> 01:24:48,758 but I'll never see him. 1778 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,103 Let's get the hell out of here. 1779 01:25:13,275 --> 01:25:15,344 I have a curse to break. 1780 01:25:15,517 --> 01:25:18,827 I'm having this curse broken by a church, and I'm gonna be 1781 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,931 cleansed and blessed and prayed over. 1782 01:25:22,068 --> 01:25:25,586 I'm looking forward to having the life I've always wanted. 1783 01:25:25,758 --> 01:25:27,655 Ty and I already have a honeymoon picked out, 1784 01:25:27,827 --> 01:25:29,103 and I'm not even engaged yet. 1785 01:25:30,517 --> 01:25:32,172 -Bye. -[producer speaking] 1786 01:25:32,344 --> 01:25:35,137 Thank you so much for everything. 1787 01:25:35,310 --> 01:25:36,482 It's a new day. It's a new me.