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Josh: On this episode
of "expedition x"...
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Jessica: I got something.
Right there, right there.
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...My team and I
investigate sightings
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of a gigantic winged creature
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said to be
terrorizing the midwest.
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Everybody sort of described
a large bat-like creature.
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Woman: I just thought...
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Hang on.
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Josh:
According to witnesses...
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You're not the only one
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who has seen
something strange.
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...The mothman...
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Whoa, whoa.
That's huge!
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Josh: ...Is back.
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-Holy...
-What is that?
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My name is josh gates.
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In my travels, I've experienced
strange things that defy logic
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and made me question everything.
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Oh, my god.
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Now, I've put together a team
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to investigate the stranger side
of the unknown.
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Let's go!
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Phil torres is a scientist who
hunts for rational explanations.
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Jessica chobot's
paranormal research
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has made her a true believer.
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There is a monster
living in this forest.
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Phil, phil, phil, I just saw
something run across.
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Together we're searching
for answers...
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Phil: What is that?
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...To the world's
most extraordinary mysteries.
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This is "expedition x."
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-- captions by vitac --
www.Vitac.Com
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captions paid for by
discovery communications
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alright, phil and jess,
the case that we're dealing
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with today is something
that has actually been
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frightening a lot of people.
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It's a strange case,
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and frankly, it's pretty
unsettling stuff.
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Well, you had me
at "frightening."
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what are
we dealing with here?
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Well, it's not exactly
an unidentified flying object.
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This case involves
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an unidentified
flying creature.
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Now, before you run out
of the room, phil,
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I want to show you a video.
Check this out.
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-Whoa!
-Huh.
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Maybe a bird.
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Almost like a bat?
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What is that?
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Looks like a dragon.
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Right?
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I mean,
those wings are huge.
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Wow.
It's a dragon.
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So whatever this is
has not been identified,
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but it's one of a number
of reports
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that people have come forward
with seeing flying,
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often humanoid-looking,
creatures.
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And most of the people
who see this stuff
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are terrified by it.
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Well, that makes sense.
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I think there's something
very primal in us
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about being afraid of
giant predators in the sky.
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And there's also something
just naturally menacing
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about a dark, webbed-winged,
humanoid object
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flying through the sky.
It's scary.
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Well, that brings us
to the case in question.
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People in two different parts
of the country
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are recently
reporting encounters
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with not just
a flying creature,
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but the most famous flying
cryptid of all time, mothman.
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Yes! I was hoping you were
gonna say that.
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You love mothman?
I love mothman.
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Phil?
I don't know about this one.
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This is next level, phil.
Let's bring you up to speed.
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Josh: It's a story that begins
in point pleasant,
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west virginia, November 1966.
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That's when two young couples
driving home
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after a double date reported
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seeing a menacing,
winged, humanoid creature
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on the edge of town.
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They said it had
glowing red eyes,
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and it attacked them
from the air,
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scratching the roof of their car
as they tried to escape.
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Mothman sightings around
point pleasant
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continued for the next year,
culminating with the creature
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being reported on point
pleasant's silver bridge
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shortly before it collapsed
on December 15, 1967.
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46 people died
and many blamed mothman.
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According to reports,
he was spotted in ohio in 1975,
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twice in 1981,
in pennsylvania.
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He was reportedly seen
in kentucky in 1986,
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then three more times in 1994,
back in west virginia.
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After that, things were
relatively quiet until now.
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Over the last two years,
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there have been 87 sightings of
mothman in and around chicago.
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And in the point
pleasant area,
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in the last
three months alone,
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there have been nearly
a dozen sightings.
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So jess, what do you
make of this?
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He's back, baby!
Yes!
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Mothman is back.
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I'm into it,
I'm stoked for this.
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Jess, why are you
so into mothman?
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Well, I think it stems from
when I was little,
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and I'd go to the library,
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and I'd sit there and read all
these books on the supernatural.
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And for some reason, mothman,
as a cryptid,
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really spoke to me.
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I found him super-scary,
with the glowing red eyes,
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the fact that he was chasing
these teenagers down,
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and he was still
being seen today,
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and he was kind of
a harbinger of doom, right?
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Right.
It affected this entire town,
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and everybody said
they saw something.
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Okay, so clearly, you're in
the believer column here.
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I'm in
the believer column.
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Now, phil, I could guess
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that you're a little bit
more skeptical here,
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and I think you and I
are in the same column.
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This is a really
wild story, right?
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But what we can't deny
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is the sheer number
of sightings.
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It is a lot of sightings,
and I can agree
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that these people are seeing
something, but seeing what?
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I mean, there's more drones
flying around us now
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than there are
planes in the sky.
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Right.
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But planes and drones
don't flap their wings
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and have glowing red eyes
and chase you.
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That is true.
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She's got you there, phil.
She does.
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And look, this really is
the heart of this mystery.
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Could so many people
that are so adamant
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about what
they're seeing be wrong?
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Is it a case of
an unidentified creature?
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Is it misidentification?
Is it hysteria?
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Is it some sort of folklore
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just working
on their imaginations?
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And that's what I want
the two of you to find out.
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Okay.
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I think you've got to go
to chicago,
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but you've got to start
in point pleasant.
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You've got to go to where
the mothman story began
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and see if you can find
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some correlation
between those sightings
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and the ones happening
in chicago.
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Sound good?
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Sounds good.
Sounds like a plan.
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Josh: The team is traveling
540 miles southwest
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to point pleasant,
west virginia.
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Jessica:
This place, I love it.
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It's fantastic,
it is super-crazy,
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definitely a weird vibe.
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It is steeped
in mothman lore.
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Point pleasant is the epicenter
of mothman mythology.
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While thousands come
from all over the world
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for the annual
mothman festival,
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many locals see the creature
as a genuine threat,
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and that's why they're
obsessed with mothman,
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and I do mean obsessed.
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Jeff wamsley is a researcher
who has spent decades
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gathering evidence about
the mothman phenomenon.
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Wamsley: These are probably
some of the rarest
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archives we have
in the museum.
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These are the handwritten
police reports
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of those original
four witnesses.
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After they saw this thing,
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they went immediately
to the sheriff's department.
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We're trying to wrap our heads
around that first incident
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and how it connects
to all the other ones...
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Exactly.
...In chicago.
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So can you break down the events
of that evening for us?
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Sure.
In November 15, 1966,
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you had
the two young couples,
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and they were
just riding around.
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Josh: They were driving
along a road
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that bordered the southern edge
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of the west virginia
ordnance works,
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a former tnt plant
on the outskirts of town.
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That's where they encountered
what they thought was a man.
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But as they drove closer,
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they saw its 10-foot wingspan
and glowing red eyes.
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Suddenly it took off,
flying over the top of the car.
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Terrified, the driver tried
to outrun the creature,
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but even at 75 miles an hour,
he couldn't shake the talons
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that were clawing
at the top of the car.
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Once they got
to the city limits,
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it veered off
into a field.
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That was the first official
local sighting here.
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Minutes after
they came into town,
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they were scared enough
to go to the police department.
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They didn't want to,
but they did.
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Did they sequester them all
in different rooms
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to get these...?
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Yes, they did.
Got it.
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I have three of those
four people's original reports
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right here.
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And how long did the activity,
as far as the sightings,
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go on for before
the silver bridge collapsed?
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13 months to the day that
that original sighting.
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It's the worst bridge
disaster in u.S. History...
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Phil: Wow.
...And 46 people perished.
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I've talked to people who said
they saw a creature,
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or a bird,
on top of the bridge.
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Josh: It has long been rumored
that mothman was sighted
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atop the silver bridge before it
collapsed and killed 46 people.
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This event cemented
mothman's sinister reputation.
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Where he appears,
tragedy follows.
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People claim that mothman
popped up
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before the chernobyl
disaster in 1986,
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and in mexico during the swine
flu epidemic of 2009.
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And many say he's often trailed
by other mysterious figures.
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So I've often heard that when
the mothman would show up,
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that you would get some men
in black activity, too.
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Yeah.
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People coming in and knocking
on doors and asking questions.
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Did you see
something like that?
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Yeah. The men in black
were notorious
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for just showing up
unexpectedly.
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My own mother,
she saw the men in black.
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Point pleasant residents
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who claimed to have seen
mothman
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reportedly received
a visit from federal agents.
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It's unknown what the agents
said, but after those visits,
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the witnesses never
spoke of mothman again.
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If the reports are true,
what drew
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these so-called men in black to
this small west virginia town?
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Were they trying to cover up
a top-secret military project,
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or were they attempting
to silence
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any talk about
a real-life cryptid?
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So is it possible for us to go
there to where it all began?
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Sure, the area
is still accessible.
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Jessica: Hearing about where the
sightings happened is one thing,
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but we want to see it
for ourselves.
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Ground zero
for mothman phenomena --
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the former west virginia
ordnance works.
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Phil: This is the area
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where there was a huge
cluster of sightings,
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and it's like sighting,
sighting, sighting,
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sighting all the way
around the perimeter.
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So I figured this is
the perfect place for us
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to poke around
a little bit.
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Josh: Over the years,
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there have been dozens
of credible witnesses
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who describe seeing
a winged human-like figure
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either coming out of,
or disappearing, into this area,
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and those sightings
continue to this day.
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Retired air force veteran
and military police officer
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dave spinks
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has investigated
the mothman phenomenon
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for more than two decades.
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He has a unique theory about
what these people are seeing.
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Jessica: So it looks like
an abandoned city.
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That's pretty much
what it was.
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You are standing in the heart
of the west virginia
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ordnance works here in
point pleasant, west virginia.
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So when you saw ordnance,
you mean explosives?
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Yes, exactly.
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Josh: This eerie tract of land
just outside of point pleasant
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was an 8,000-acre facility
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that manufactured tnt
during world war ii
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and stored it in 100
concrete bunkers.
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But rumors have swirled
for decades
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that there was more
going on here
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than the military was admitting.
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And they actually manufactured
the explosives
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for the atomic bomb here.
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Wow.
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What's your personal take
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on the mothman sightings
in this area?
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I believe it
could be some type
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of military
clandestine project.
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Josh:
Though a military mothman
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might sound
like science fiction,
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it's a fact that
during the cold war,
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the united states funded
a number of highly unusual
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top-secret programs,
many with animals.
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Project pigeon
deployed bombs with pigeons
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acting as guidance mechanisms,
and project acoustic kitty
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intended to use cats
to spy on the kremlin.
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The bat bomb was a plan
to use bats
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to deliver explosive devices
into enemy cities.
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Some have suggested mothman is
actually the biological product
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of similar top-secret
experiments,
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a genetically modified bird,
or perhaps even a human.
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It's a wild theory,
but what can't be ignored
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is that people have been
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seeing something
lurking in these woods.
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Check this out.
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Phil: Dave has uncovered
a once-classified 1940 site map
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for the ordnance works.
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So right out here,
what we have...
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Jessica: Uh-huh?
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...Is 300 acres of
war-department land
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other than the tnt area.
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My contacts told me
that there was definitely
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clandestine activity
going on out here.
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So out
of those 8,000 acres,
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300 of them are this
war department,
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"don't go in.
There are no trespassing"?
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Absolutely.
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Phil: It does seem possible
that during the time
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of the original
mothman sightings,
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there could have been top-secret
military activity at this plant.
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We're following
dave's map to see
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if we can find any evidence
to support this theory.
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To get there, we'll have to
navigate a river of toxic sludge
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that surrounds
the entire abandoned facility.
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Some say it's a man-made barrier
meant to keep people out.
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Have you ever brought a boat
down this way before?
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No, we haven't.
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What do you think
about this water, special stuff?
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Yes.
On a scale of 1 to 10,
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10 being the worst,
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how crazy are we
for doing this?
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Probably a 10.
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Oh, good.
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I always wanted to be
an overachiever.
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Jessica: After securing a boat
to navigate the swamp,
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we travel down
to the water's edge.
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Ready?
Yeah.
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Okay. Going in.
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♪
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I mean, this area out here,
this is next-level habitat.
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This is where a lot
of the sightings happened.
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This is where
the government was active.
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This was his default
go-to spot.
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This is where
it all went down.
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There we go.
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Jessica:
After paddling through the muck,
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we eventually come ashore
and set out on foot.
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Finally, we make it to the area
on the map where some believe
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the government conducted
a secret military project
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that can explain
the mothman sightings.
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I think I see something.
336
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Jessica: Here we go.
337
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This thing is completely
covered by earth.
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Look at this. It is part
of the landscape here.
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Totally grown over.
340
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This thing hasn't been opened
in decades.
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[ creaking ]
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wow.
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Okay, ready?
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Mm-hmm.
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♪
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alright, one more.
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Ready, set...
348
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Yep.
[ grunts ]
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holy...
Oh, what is that?
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Josh: Our mothman investigation
has led to the innermost area
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of the west virginia
ordnance plant.
352
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Wow.
353
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Phil and jess are tracking
a controversial theory
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that top-secret military
experiments with animals
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or even people conducted
out of these bunkers
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could be responsible
for the mothman sightings.
357
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Either way, people have been
seeing something
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hiding amidst these ruins.
359
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The question is what?
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Ready, set...
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Yeah.
[ grunts ]
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holy...
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What is that?
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♪
365
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what is this?
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A barrel of diesel oil?
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00:15:56,423 --> 00:15:58,923
What is this?
368
00:15:58,925 --> 00:16:01,225
[ grunts ]
and a sprocket.
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This place...
Oh, look at this. Look.
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Why would you just leave
all this stuff behind?
371
00:16:12,205 --> 00:16:13,538
I don't know.
372
00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:15,740
Why does it look like
something was chained up here?
373
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That does look like --
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kind of like a wrist
or something.
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00:16:23,183 --> 00:16:24,248
That's kind of creepy.
376
00:16:26,186 --> 00:16:28,553
Oh, what's this?
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00:16:28,555 --> 00:16:30,755
Look, an old
fire extinguisher.
378
00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:31,889
Wow.
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00:16:31,891 --> 00:16:34,258
Dayton fire extinguisher.
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Dayton, ohio.
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Is there a date on here?
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I don't think so, but, yeah,
that's interesting
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this is coming
from dayton.
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00:16:42,635 --> 00:16:44,268
Yeah.
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Phil: Having fully explored
the bunker,
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we returned to the boat
and begin paddling back
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00:16:54,214 --> 00:16:57,348
only to find another
mysterious structure.
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00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,919
Look at that.
389
00:17:01,921 --> 00:17:03,221
What is this?
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00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:07,225
Let's see
if we can get in.
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♪
392
00:17:17,237 --> 00:17:22,940
♪
393
00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:28,646
♪
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phil: Oh!
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Jessica: Oh, my god.
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00:17:32,252 --> 00:17:41,726
♪
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♪
398
00:17:47,934 --> 00:17:50,334
oh, wow.
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00:17:53,139 --> 00:17:55,073
This is huge.
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00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:56,340
Whoa.
401
00:17:56,342 --> 00:18:01,179
♪
402
00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:03,915
I'm almost afraid to put
my paddle in the water.
403
00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:04,982
It is...
Look.
404
00:18:04,984 --> 00:18:06,017
What's down there?
What's down there?
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00:18:06,019 --> 00:18:06,984
I don't know.
406
00:18:06,986 --> 00:18:12,090
♪
407
00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:17,261
♪
408
00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:19,697
so did you see anything
under the water? What's there?
409
00:18:19,699 --> 00:18:21,432
I don't know.
410
00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:23,668
I mean, if you're gonna be
a mothman,
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00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:25,336
why wouldn't you live here?
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00:18:25,338 --> 00:18:28,773
[ creature squeaks ]
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00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:31,476
oh, did you hear that?
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00:18:31,478 --> 00:18:33,177
It was somewhere
over there.
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00:18:33,179 --> 00:18:41,919
♪
416
00:18:41,921 --> 00:18:45,623
that sounded like it was
coming from outside.
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00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,225
Come on,
let's get out there.
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00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:56,267
♪
419
00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:57,335
[ flapping, thud ]
420
00:18:57,337 --> 00:18:59,437
did you hear that?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
421
00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:01,105
Something out there.
Something out there.
422
00:19:01,107 --> 00:19:02,006
Do you see it?
No.
423
00:19:02,008 --> 00:19:05,076
I heard it
over here somewhere.
424
00:19:05,078 --> 00:19:06,978
Shine the flashlight up
in that tree.
425
00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:12,683
Wait, I think I see it.
426
00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:15,920
What is that?
It just moved.
427
00:19:15,922 --> 00:19:16,954
To the left, to the left.
428
00:19:16,956 --> 00:19:20,191
It's trying
to avoid the light.
429
00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:21,292
There's something
over there.
430
00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:22,560
I'm gonna paddle us
a little closer.
431
00:19:22,562 --> 00:19:23,828
Okay.
432
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:30,568
♪
433
00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:32,436
I've got
the thermal camera.
434
00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:34,539
If there's anything
biological giving off heat,
435
00:19:34,541 --> 00:19:36,207
we'll see it on this.
436
00:19:39,979 --> 00:19:43,614
It sounded like it was up
in the treetops here.
437
00:19:43,616 --> 00:19:45,583
Where? Point your light
where you think you saw it.
438
00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:46,617
Right up here.
439
00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:49,453
Alright. I'm looking.
440
00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:55,626
Hey, I think I see
something on the thermal.
441
00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:56,861
Oh, my god.
442
00:19:56,863 --> 00:20:00,264
Whoa. What do you
think that is?
443
00:20:00,266 --> 00:20:01,899
Oh, I think I lost it.
444
00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:07,838
Well, let's keep heading
towards the shore
445
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,209
and see what we can find
once we're on land.
446
00:20:11,211 --> 00:20:12,443
Alright.
447
00:20:12,445 --> 00:20:17,782
♪
448
00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:23,087
♪
449
00:20:23,089 --> 00:20:26,390
jessica: Is that the tree
we saw something in?
450
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Phil: I'm not sure.
451
00:20:27,627 --> 00:20:29,760
It might be
that one over there.
452
00:20:29,762 --> 00:20:31,362
I don't see anything.
453
00:20:31,364 --> 00:20:37,602
♪
454
00:20:37,604 --> 00:20:39,103
phil:
After another hour of searching,
455
00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:42,106
we still haven't made contact
with the source of the noise
456
00:20:42,108 --> 00:20:44,675
and whatever we saw
on the thermal camera.
457
00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:48,379
With the sun on the horizon,
we decide to head back.
458
00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:50,982
The items we found
at the ordnance plant support
459
00:20:50,984 --> 00:20:53,784
dave's theory
that a secret military operation
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00:20:53,786 --> 00:20:55,486
could have been
conducted here,
461
00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:59,924
but what sort of experiments
could account for the mothman?
462
00:20:59,926 --> 00:21:03,594
We check in with josh to
update him on our investigation.
463
00:21:08,167 --> 00:21:10,401
Hello. How's west virginia
treating you?
464
00:21:10,403 --> 00:21:13,404
We're definitely getting into
some weird stuff out here.
465
00:21:13,406 --> 00:21:15,840
Alright, so bring me
up to speed.
466
00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:18,376
So that area where all of the
original mothman sightings
467
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took place, the west virginia
ordnance works...
468
00:21:20,847 --> 00:21:22,380
The tnt plant.
469
00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:24,982
Yeah, exactly. We got
the plans for the area
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and right there in the center
has been just sectioned off
471
00:21:28,588 --> 00:21:31,956
as "war department"
with no explanation given.
472
00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:34,325
War department. Okay.
So what are you thinking?
473
00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:36,460
Maybe something top secret
was going on out there?
474
00:21:36,462 --> 00:21:37,528
Possibly.
475
00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:40,031
We actually went out
to that area last night.
476
00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:41,999
Is there anything
in that area?
477
00:21:42,001 --> 00:21:44,201
There were these
sealed-off bunkers there,
478
00:21:44,203 --> 00:21:46,137
and we went into
one of them
479
00:21:46,139 --> 00:21:48,239
and it was basically
half hidden,
480
00:21:48,241 --> 00:21:49,807
kind of buried in the ground
right there.
481
00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:51,075
What was inside?
482
00:21:51,077 --> 00:21:52,843
For a place that was supposed
to be storing tnt,
483
00:21:52,845 --> 00:21:55,146
there was a lot
of weird stuff in there.
484
00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:58,482
We found chains,
shackles, a diesel drum.
485
00:21:58,484 --> 00:22:01,018
There was a really old
fire extinguisher
486
00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:02,153
from dayton, ohio.
487
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:03,821
There were tools.
Hold on. Hold on.
488
00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,189
The fire extinguisher
was from dayton?
489
00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:06,457
It was labeled dayton?
490
00:22:06,459 --> 00:22:07,858
Yeah.
Yeah.
491
00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:09,160
Dayton, ohio, is home
492
00:22:09,162 --> 00:22:11,362
to wright-patterson
air force base,
493
00:22:11,364 --> 00:22:13,364
one of the most famous
military bases in the country.
494
00:22:13,366 --> 00:22:16,767
Also, a place where a lot
of top-secret military activity
495
00:22:16,769 --> 00:22:18,602
took place.
That's on record.
496
00:22:18,604 --> 00:22:20,338
If, in fact, there was
some sort of
497
00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:22,973
top-secret facility
in point pleasant,
498
00:22:22,975 --> 00:22:25,943
wright-patterson and dayton,
that's 150 miles away.
499
00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:27,211
That's not far at all.
500
00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:28,746
Maybe there is
a relationship there.
501
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:31,048
But that place
is extremely restricted.
502
00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:32,616
You're talking about
what a lot of people
503
00:22:32,618 --> 00:22:34,819
consider to be the real area 51.
504
00:22:34,821 --> 00:22:36,387
And I just don't know
505
00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:39,357
how we would ever be able
to investigate that.
506
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,326
Well,
I might have a way.
507
00:22:55,742 --> 00:22:58,442
Josh: The team and I are
reviewing the discoveries
508
00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:00,945
they made at the west virginia
ordnance plant
509
00:23:00,947 --> 00:23:03,981
and whether the mothman
sightings might be explained
510
00:23:03,983 --> 00:23:07,184
by a top-secret
military program.
511
00:23:07,186 --> 00:23:09,186
The challenge now
is getting access
512
00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:12,590
to one of the most secretive
military bases in existence --
513
00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:16,260
wright-patterson
air force base.
514
00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:18,462
I have a contact
from wright-patterson
515
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:21,031
from a military investigation
we did several years ago.
516
00:23:21,033 --> 00:23:22,900
I'll see if I can connect
all of you.
517
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,735
In the meantime,
we've still got
518
00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:26,704
these eyewitness
sightings in chicago.
519
00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:28,806
And I think you've got
to head there next.
520
00:23:28,808 --> 00:23:29,874
Absolutely.
521
00:23:29,876 --> 00:23:31,208
Also,
I've learned back here
522
00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:33,577
that one of
the eyewitnesses there
523
00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:36,914
claims that he actually has
images of his encounter
524
00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:39,617
with mothman though
he's been hesitant to show it.
525
00:23:39,619 --> 00:23:40,651
I want to see that.
526
00:23:40,653 --> 00:23:42,553
Alright,
let's go to chicago.
527
00:23:42,555 --> 00:23:45,222
To chicago.
Good luck.
528
00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:48,192
Josh: While I work on access to
wright-patterson air force base,
529
00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:53,164
the team travels 438 miles
northwest to chicago.
530
00:23:53,166 --> 00:23:56,267
I'll admit it's a strange
place to find mothman,
531
00:23:56,269 --> 00:23:57,635
but don't tell that
to the people
532
00:23:57,637 --> 00:24:00,671
who say they've seen him here.
533
00:24:00,673 --> 00:24:02,206
So I've actually hooked us up
with somebody
534
00:24:02,208 --> 00:24:05,242
that's gonna walk us through
all those recent sightings.
535
00:24:05,244 --> 00:24:07,578
We're gonna have
to go up really high.
536
00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:08,612
Phil: What do mean high?
537
00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:11,282
Like mothman high.
Whoa.
538
00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:14,618
No chicago structure is
more iconic than willis tower.
539
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,454
Once known
as the sears tower,
540
00:24:16,456 --> 00:24:19,156
it is the second tallest
building in the americas
541
00:24:19,158 --> 00:24:20,858
and the place
where eyewitnesses
542
00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:23,694
have reported seeing mothman.
543
00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:25,396
Jessica and phil are here
to meet
544
00:24:25,398 --> 00:24:27,598
author and paranormal
investigator...
545
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,532
Going up.
546
00:24:28,534 --> 00:24:30,034
...Tobias wayland.
547
00:24:30,036 --> 00:24:33,671
Tobias has been gathering data
on the chicago mothman sightings
548
00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:37,374
since he first got wind
of a trio of recent reports.
549
00:24:39,412 --> 00:24:40,644
Hey, tobias.
Hi.
550
00:24:40,646 --> 00:24:43,113
Sorry I'm a little late.
That's a lot of stairs.
551
00:24:43,115 --> 00:24:44,615
Sure is.
552
00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:45,916
So why did you
bring us here?
553
00:24:45,918 --> 00:24:48,752
Well, it wasn't me.
The mothman did.
554
00:24:48,754 --> 00:24:51,255
The mothman,
over a thousand feet up,
555
00:24:51,257 --> 00:24:52,656
chose this location.
556
00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:53,891
Higher actually.
557
00:24:53,893 --> 00:24:57,328
The sighting that supposedly
took place right here
558
00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:59,063
had the creature
at the very top.
559
00:24:59,065 --> 00:25:00,764
Wow.
There's a guy, guillermo,
560
00:25:00,766 --> 00:25:02,967
and he's outside smoking
561
00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:06,437
just after 5:00 p.M.
In July of 2017.
562
00:25:06,439 --> 00:25:10,541
And he sees something
on top of the tower.
563
00:25:10,543 --> 00:25:12,409
As he's standing there,
564
00:25:12,411 --> 00:25:17,081
this winged human jumps
off of the tower.
565
00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:20,117
After that, the sightings
just kept coming
566
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,753
and everybody described
the same thing,
567
00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:26,657
which was a large,
bat-like creature.
568
00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:34,365
We've got probably well over
a hundred different reports
569
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,000
and associated
phenomenon.
570
00:25:36,002 --> 00:25:39,003
All within this area
or just across the board?
571
00:25:39,005 --> 00:25:42,940
Within 200 miles
of lake michigan.
572
00:25:42,942 --> 00:25:45,442
Well, it's really interesting
because mothman always --
573
00:25:45,444 --> 00:25:50,147
at least the reports and stories
that I've heard and read,
574
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:52,583
is that it's usually
in kind of rural areas.
575
00:25:52,585 --> 00:25:55,886
I've never heard of him
in the middle of chicago.
576
00:25:58,658 --> 00:26:01,091
Let me show you a map.
577
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,360
They're almost always...
Wow.
578
00:26:03,362 --> 00:26:06,564
Yeah, centered
around green spaces.
579
00:26:06,566 --> 00:26:08,065
Oh, okay.
That's a lot of sightings.
580
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:09,166
I'm actually really surprised
581
00:26:09,168 --> 00:26:10,501
at how many are
in the city, too.
582
00:26:10,503 --> 00:26:12,036
A lot of people probably
don't realize
583
00:26:12,038 --> 00:26:14,305
that they are surrounded
by nature,
584
00:26:14,307 --> 00:26:16,907
that there are owls here,
there are herons here,
585
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:18,509
there are
a lot of big birds.
586
00:26:18,511 --> 00:26:21,045
And so when it's dark,
and they see something flying
587
00:26:21,047 --> 00:26:23,280
and they know that mothman
has been sighted here,
588
00:26:23,282 --> 00:26:25,883
maybe that's why
they're thinking it's mothman.
589
00:26:25,885 --> 00:26:29,019
There isn't going to be
as much physical evidence.
590
00:26:29,021 --> 00:26:31,889
And so, the criteria I have to
use to judge those sightings
591
00:26:31,891 --> 00:26:35,426
is the credibility
of the witnesses themselves.
592
00:26:35,428 --> 00:26:39,196
There have been a good number
of very frightened,
593
00:26:39,198 --> 00:26:42,466
very otherwise normal people
who have come forward
594
00:26:42,468 --> 00:26:44,435
and recounted
these stories.
595
00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,203
When you're dealing
with a normal,
596
00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:48,105
credible person
who's telling you
597
00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:50,674
that they were standing
only several feet away
598
00:26:50,676 --> 00:26:54,244
from something that looked
like a winged humanoid,
599
00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:55,846
I feel like under
those circumstances,
600
00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:57,848
it would be very difficult,
if not impossible,
601
00:26:57,850 --> 00:27:00,551
to misidentify
some sort of large bird.
602
00:27:00,553 --> 00:27:02,686
I'm eager to speak with
a chicago eyewitness
603
00:27:02,688 --> 00:27:05,189
to see if the
mothman sightings here
604
00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:09,460
might also be explained by some
kind of secret military program.
605
00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:13,564
We head southwest from willis
tower to the lower west side.
606
00:27:13,566 --> 00:27:16,066
That's where we're meeting
kelley hanada,
607
00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:17,568
the eyewitness
that has been reluctant
608
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:20,537
to release his evidence,
at least so far.
609
00:27:20,539 --> 00:27:28,679
♪
610
00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:31,415
what's your experience been?
Walk us through it.
611
00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:33,651
Hanada: When I was on my way
to work riding my bike,
612
00:27:33,653 --> 00:27:36,987
this is the route
that I take pretty much daily.
613
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:39,256
So as I'm pulling up
to this intersection,
614
00:27:39,258 --> 00:27:40,724
I'm just gazing out,
615
00:27:40,726 --> 00:27:43,193
looking at the flags
above the library.
616
00:27:43,195 --> 00:27:46,196
I see another gentleman
start pointing to the sky,
617
00:27:46,198 --> 00:27:49,366
and that's when I see
a large flying object.
618
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:50,501
And so, I immediately
think in my head,
619
00:27:50,503 --> 00:27:54,171
"hey, I think
that's the mothman."
620
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,473
so you immediately
went to mothman.
621
00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:58,242
Yeah. Well, certainly
at the time
622
00:27:58,244 --> 00:28:00,577
of when I'm experiencing
this and viewing it,
623
00:28:00,579 --> 00:28:01,945
I'm almost positive
624
00:28:01,947 --> 00:28:05,716
that what I'm capturing
on film is the mothman.
625
00:28:05,718 --> 00:28:09,420
I had the gopro on me, and I
was able to get that captured.
626
00:28:09,422 --> 00:28:11,722
Is there any way we could see
that footage that you have?
627
00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:15,259
Yes, please.
628
00:28:15,261 --> 00:28:17,194
I'm kind of hesitant of even
showing people now
629
00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:19,963
just because it almost seems
like a point of ridicule
630
00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:21,265
just for...
631
00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:23,200
People will either see
one thing or the other.
632
00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:24,935
And then I look
like a crazy person
633
00:28:24,937 --> 00:28:28,372
for coming forward
with a mothman sighting.
634
00:28:28,374 --> 00:28:29,740
I'll tell you what,
what's important here,
635
00:28:29,742 --> 00:28:31,141
is you're not the only one
636
00:28:31,143 --> 00:28:32,976
who has seen
something strange.
637
00:28:32,978 --> 00:28:35,045
And what you saw still
is a mystery,
638
00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:36,413
and we're here to help
639
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:39,183
and see if we can get
to the bottom of that mystery.
640
00:28:39,185 --> 00:28:41,785
Yeah. Well, I mean,
so I do have it with me,
641
00:28:41,787 --> 00:28:43,721
and I have
a few of the stills.
642
00:28:43,723 --> 00:28:45,089
A little bit of an idea.
643
00:28:45,091 --> 00:28:47,991
Oh, whoa.
That's huge.
644
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,636
♪
645
00:28:59,638 --> 00:29:01,205
josh: My team is in chicago
646
00:29:01,207 --> 00:29:05,042
investigating recent reports
of a giant winged creature.
647
00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:07,211
Kelley hanada
was cycling to work
648
00:29:07,213 --> 00:29:10,347
wearing a camera on his helmet
when he captured images
649
00:29:10,349 --> 00:29:13,183
of something large
flying in the sky.
650
00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:18,555
Oh, yeah, there he is.
Oh, wow.
651
00:29:23,129 --> 00:29:25,329
So here's where it is
right here.
652
00:29:25,331 --> 00:29:27,598
It basically starts
from this area
653
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000
heading kind of
in a southwest direction
654
00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:32,870
and almost into the wind
the entire time.
655
00:29:36,342 --> 00:29:37,508
So kelley, I got to say,
656
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:40,077
especially in this frame
right here,
657
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:41,678
as much as
it would be amazing
658
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,213
if this is a photo
of mothman,
659
00:29:43,215 --> 00:29:45,282
to me,
this just looks like
660
00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:47,551
a really big,
impressive bird.
661
00:29:47,553 --> 00:29:49,086
Well, it would have to be
at least
662
00:29:49,088 --> 00:29:51,488
a 10-foot wingspan
given the size.
663
00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:53,390
Yeah. But a bird is not
gonna attract
664
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,692
that kind of attention
from people on the ground
665
00:29:55,694 --> 00:29:59,496
to actually stop on their way
to work and point up in the sky.
666
00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:02,833
I do that for, like, a great
horned owl or gyrfalcon.
667
00:30:02,835 --> 00:30:04,434
I mean, I think
there's some really cool --
668
00:30:04,436 --> 00:30:06,670
yeah, but you're a unique,
amazing person.
669
00:30:06,672 --> 00:30:08,071
Were you gonna call me
a nerd?
670
00:30:08,073 --> 00:30:10,240
No.
671
00:30:10,242 --> 00:30:13,510
Kelley's footage shows
something human sized
672
00:30:13,512 --> 00:30:14,845
flying above chicago.
673
00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:16,380
Given its size and shape,
674
00:30:16,382 --> 00:30:19,817
many have suggested it might've
been a person in a wingsuit.
675
00:30:19,819 --> 00:30:22,786
Experts have also theorized
that sightings at willis tower
676
00:30:22,788 --> 00:30:26,590
could have been a base jumper
illegally jumping from the roof.
677
00:30:26,592 --> 00:30:28,425
To put these theories
to the test,
678
00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,661
we're heading to an indoor
skydiving facility
679
00:30:30,663 --> 00:30:32,629
to meet with
expert wingsuit pilot
680
00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:35,365
and world record holder
joe ridler.
681
00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:39,570
We've actually been
running around chicago
682
00:30:39,572 --> 00:30:41,839
investigating
the mothman sightings.
683
00:30:41,841 --> 00:30:43,140
Interesting.
684
00:30:43,142 --> 00:30:44,775
Yeah. We suspect it could be
any number of things,
685
00:30:44,777 --> 00:30:46,109
but one of the things
we were thinking of
686
00:30:46,111 --> 00:30:48,478
is maybe a base jumper
or a guy wearing a wingsuit.
687
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,047
Basically
somebody like you
688
00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:52,549
because you've done
a lot of jumps. Yeah?
689
00:30:52,551 --> 00:30:53,617
Yeah, absolutely.
690
00:30:53,619 --> 00:30:55,686
I'm just under
1,500 jumps right now.
691
00:30:55,688 --> 00:30:57,454
Wow.
Yeah.
692
00:30:57,456 --> 00:31:00,190
Phil: To be clear,
base jumping is an extreme sport
693
00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:02,759
where people leap and then
parachute from cliffs
694
00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:04,895
and, yes, tall buildings.
695
00:31:04,897 --> 00:31:07,631
On the other hand, a wingsuit
has sections of fabric
696
00:31:07,633 --> 00:31:10,133
that inflate to allow gliding
through the air
697
00:31:10,135 --> 00:31:13,136
before deploying a chute
for landing.
698
00:31:13,138 --> 00:31:14,571
Jessica: What would be
a giveaway sign
699
00:31:14,573 --> 00:31:17,007
that that person
is a base jumper
700
00:31:17,009 --> 00:31:20,244
or wearing a wingsuit versus,
"oh, hey, that's mothman"?
701
00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:21,612
When it comes
to base jumping,
702
00:31:21,614 --> 00:31:23,280
they're all kind of ninjas
of the night.
703
00:31:23,282 --> 00:31:27,351
It's not exactly a legal sport
to participate in.
704
00:31:27,353 --> 00:31:31,154
So jumping in the day
would be one red flag.
705
00:31:31,156 --> 00:31:33,190
Another would be
the height of the object
706
00:31:33,192 --> 00:31:35,626
that you're
jumping off of.
707
00:31:35,628 --> 00:31:37,594
Another is landing area.
708
00:31:37,596 --> 00:31:40,731
Phil: We show joe the schematic
of where eyewitness guillermo
709
00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:43,734
spotted the winged figure.
710
00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:45,702
He said he was looking up
at that ledge
711
00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:46,803
and the guy jumped.
712
00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:49,773
He claims he saw
it just kind of fly away
713
00:31:49,775 --> 00:31:51,575
towards the lake.
714
00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:52,843
Is that doable?
715
00:31:52,845 --> 00:31:54,745
Oh, no.
Absolutely not.
716
00:31:54,747 --> 00:31:57,614
So the height of this ledge
717
00:31:57,616 --> 00:32:00,817
is high enough to do
a wingsuit base jump,
718
00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:03,587
but given all
of the complexities
719
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,689
of the landing areas
around here,
720
00:32:05,691 --> 00:32:08,692
probably not
a plausible solution here.
721
00:32:10,195 --> 00:32:11,628
Jessica:
We also show joe the images
722
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:13,463
that kelley hanada
took with his gopro,
723
00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:15,632
which joe also dismisses.
724
00:32:15,634 --> 00:32:18,135
They weren't in a wingsuit
or base jumper either.
725
00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:21,905
Phil: If we're going to document
726
00:32:21,907 --> 00:32:23,573
our own encounter
with the mothman,
727
00:32:23,575 --> 00:32:26,843
we need to look for it
in its natural habitat.
728
00:32:26,845 --> 00:32:29,079
A biological creature
of this size
729
00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:31,048
might pass through
the big city on occasion,
730
00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:33,717
but it certainly
won't make its home here.
731
00:32:35,688 --> 00:32:38,322
One of the densest areas
of recent sightings nearby
732
00:32:38,324 --> 00:32:40,991
is only 15 miles northwest
of the city
733
00:32:40,993 --> 00:32:43,627
in a 20-mile stretch
of forest preserve.
734
00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:47,197
No humans, lots of animals,
plenty of water.
735
00:32:47,199 --> 00:32:50,600
If the mothman is real,
this could be his home.
736
00:32:52,771 --> 00:32:54,938
Phil: By the way, wait till you
see what I've got inside.
737
00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:56,106
What'd you get?
738
00:32:56,108 --> 00:32:57,975
Our goal is to try to photograph
whatever it is
739
00:32:57,977 --> 00:32:59,376
that people are seeing out here.
740
00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:01,111
And to do that,
we'll use several
741
00:33:01,113 --> 00:33:02,846
motion-sensitive
wildlife cameras.
742
00:33:02,848 --> 00:33:04,815
So what do you think
about this?
743
00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:06,383
Overkill?
What's the crossbow for?
744
00:33:06,385 --> 00:33:08,719
We're gonna shoot it up
into the tree and at the end
745
00:33:08,721 --> 00:33:10,420
of the fishing line,
we'll put a trail cam.
746
00:33:10,422 --> 00:33:13,824
So if anything flies by,
we'll get a photo of it.
747
00:33:13,826 --> 00:33:15,859
We're dividing the forest
into quadrants
748
00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:17,995
and placing cameras
in each corner.
749
00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:20,297
We attach cameras
to trees along trails
750
00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:23,734
and use the crossbow to hoist
cameras to higher positions
751
00:33:23,736 --> 00:33:26,103
with a better view of the skies.
752
00:33:26,105 --> 00:33:27,637
We finished setting up
the cameras
753
00:33:27,639 --> 00:33:29,873
just as day turns to night.
754
00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:33,443
Any motion, it'll trigger it.
It'll take a photo.
755
00:33:33,445 --> 00:33:34,745
When I think of an area
like this,
756
00:33:34,747 --> 00:33:36,646
this is habitat
at its prime.
757
00:33:36,648 --> 00:33:38,648
There's tons of sightings
around this park.
758
00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:41,418
I'm sure there are all sorts
of things living around here.
759
00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:42,719
What is the weirdest thing
you've ever seen
760
00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:44,087
with those cameras?
761
00:33:44,089 --> 00:33:45,956
In central america,
I've seen jaguars.
762
00:33:45,958 --> 00:33:49,026
Sometimes we actually see
the poachers in the area
763
00:33:49,028 --> 00:33:50,360
and they come by
with their guns
764
00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:51,495
and don't realize --
765
00:33:51,497 --> 00:33:53,663
[ unexplained noise ]
766
00:33:53,665 --> 00:33:55,499
phil: Wait, what was that?
767
00:33:55,501 --> 00:33:56,733
Jessica: I don't know.
768
00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:59,069
It sounded like
it was coming from over there.
769
00:33:59,071 --> 00:34:02,639
I got the thermal camera.
770
00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:05,342
Yeah, we definitely
got movement. I saw it.
771
00:34:05,344 --> 00:34:06,977
Definitely there.
772
00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:09,112
Yeah,
right up in that tree.
773
00:34:09,114 --> 00:34:10,080
[ rustling ]
774
00:34:10,082 --> 00:34:12,015
oh, my god! Come here.
775
00:34:12,017 --> 00:34:13,850
Right there. Right there.
Right there. It just moved.
776
00:34:25,898 --> 00:34:27,831
Jess and phil
are pursuing the idea
777
00:34:27,833 --> 00:34:30,567
that someone from
wright-patterson air force base
778
00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:33,737
may be able to provide
information about a mysterious
779
00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:37,074
flying something
in the skies of west virginia.
780
00:34:37,076 --> 00:34:39,309
Now, it may sound like
the stuff of science fiction,
781
00:34:39,311 --> 00:34:40,911
but consider this --
by the time
782
00:34:40,913 --> 00:34:44,314
of the original
mothman sightings in 1966,
783
00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:46,683
the base had served
as headquarters
784
00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:51,254
for three top-secret programs
tasked with studying ufos --
785
00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:54,157
the most comprehensive
among them project blue book.
786
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,026
This was the program
that investigated
787
00:34:56,028 --> 00:34:58,595
more than 12,000 ufo sightings
788
00:34:58,597 --> 00:35:02,032
to determine whether they posed
threats to national security.
789
00:35:02,034 --> 00:35:04,634
It was also during this time
that joint army, navy,
790
00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:07,938
air force regulation
number 146 was passed,
791
00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:11,842
making it a crime to discuss
classified ufo reports
792
00:35:11,844 --> 00:35:13,743
with unauthorized persons.
793
00:35:13,745 --> 00:35:15,178
But decades later,
794
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:18,982
project blue book's existence
has been officially acknowledged
795
00:35:18,984 --> 00:35:21,318
and tens of thousands
of documents
796
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,120
have since been declassified.
797
00:35:23,122 --> 00:35:24,921
Those who spent their careers
798
00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:26,857
at wright-patterson
air force base
799
00:35:26,859 --> 00:35:30,093
may now speak about some of
the military's activities
800
00:35:30,095 --> 00:35:32,896
around the time of the
original mothman sightings.
801
00:35:39,371 --> 00:35:45,041
♪
802
00:35:45,043 --> 00:35:47,077
josh: Phil and jessica
are north of chicago
803
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,814
investigating a cluster
of recent mothman sightings.
804
00:35:50,816 --> 00:35:51,882
While setting up
805
00:35:51,884 --> 00:35:53,617
motion-activated
wildlife cameras,
806
00:35:53,619 --> 00:35:57,154
they hear something
in the treeline.
807
00:35:57,156 --> 00:35:58,755
Jessica: It's moving.
808
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,426
Phil: Yeah, we definitely
got movement.
809
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:06,463
[ rustling ]
810
00:36:06,465 --> 00:36:07,797
oh, my gosh, something.
You got something?
811
00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:10,467
Yeah, yeah. Right there.
Right there. Right there.
812
00:36:13,939 --> 00:36:15,705
I don't see it anymore.
I don't see it either.
813
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:17,207
[ unexplained noise ]
814
00:36:17,209 --> 00:36:19,876
did you hear something?
815
00:36:21,446 --> 00:36:22,646
Anything, anything?
816
00:36:22,648 --> 00:36:24,247
I don't see anything.
817
00:36:24,249 --> 00:36:25,282
Jessica: We spend hours
818
00:36:25,284 --> 00:36:26,750
searching
for the source of the noise
819
00:36:26,752 --> 00:36:29,319
in the trees to no avail.
820
00:36:29,321 --> 00:36:32,522
With the sun about to come up,
we make sure our trail cameras
821
00:36:32,524 --> 00:36:36,693
are still running to gather
evidence long after we leave.
822
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:40,030
And that's when
we get word from josh.
823
00:36:40,032 --> 00:36:41,565
Time for a road trip.
824
00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:44,568
He's gotten us access
to a wright-patterson insider,
825
00:36:44,570 --> 00:36:47,537
someone who can speak to whether
there's any military program
826
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,039
that might help explain
827
00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:51,541
the point pleasant
mothman sightings.
828
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:53,910
So wright-patterson
air force base
829
00:36:53,912 --> 00:36:56,846
and the west virginia
ordnance plant.
830
00:36:56,848 --> 00:37:00,383
The link here,
we don't quite have it down
831
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:02,452
and I don't know
if we sound crazy right now.
832
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:04,054
I mean, we probably do
sound crazy,
833
00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:05,121
which is fine with me.
834
00:37:05,123 --> 00:37:07,090
Here's the thing --
military bases,
835
00:37:07,092 --> 00:37:08,592
they still talk
to each other,
836
00:37:08,594 --> 00:37:10,961
so it wouldn't
surprise me at all
837
00:37:10,963 --> 00:37:12,662
if some
out-of-the-way area
838
00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:15,332
had some sort of connection
to nearby bases.
839
00:37:15,334 --> 00:37:18,201
That's true.
840
00:37:18,203 --> 00:37:21,037
Phil: To meet josh's contact,
we're driving 300 miles
841
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,941
southeast from chicago
to dayton, ohio.
842
00:37:24,943 --> 00:37:27,077
Ray szymanski is
a retired engineer
843
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,012
who worked on
classified projects
844
00:37:29,014 --> 00:37:31,381
at wright-patterson
air force base.
845
00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:33,283
He's asked to meet us
at an underground bunker
846
00:37:33,285 --> 00:37:34,851
just a few miles away --
847
00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:39,756
a location that once housed
top-secret research programs.
848
00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:41,858
So, ray, how long
did you work here?
849
00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:43,393
I spent nearly four decades
850
00:37:43,395 --> 00:37:45,528
at wright-patterson
air force base.
851
00:37:45,530 --> 00:37:46,763
And what were you
doing there?
852
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:48,365
I was an electrical engineer
for the department
853
00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:50,033
of defense's
weapons systems.
854
00:37:50,035 --> 00:37:51,268
So as part of that,
855
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:53,803
I worked on a number
of secret programs.
856
00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:55,505
And in a place like this,
857
00:37:55,507 --> 00:37:59,909
you can imagine how easy
it was to keep a secret.
858
00:37:59,911 --> 00:38:02,279
Josh: This abandoned facility
once played host
859
00:38:02,281 --> 00:38:06,049
to the most secretive military
research program in history --
860
00:38:06,051 --> 00:38:09,152
the manhattan project.
861
00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:12,122
From the late 1930s
to the mid 1940s,
862
00:38:12,124 --> 00:38:16,526
more than 130,000 people
worked in absolute secrecy
863
00:38:16,528 --> 00:38:19,229
building the world's first
atomic bomb.
864
00:38:19,231 --> 00:38:24,334
♪
865
00:38:24,336 --> 00:38:26,403
so the theory that we're kind of
coming up with
866
00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:27,771
for these mothman sightings
867
00:38:27,773 --> 00:38:31,041
is that perhaps it is
an experiment by the government,
868
00:38:31,043 --> 00:38:33,677
some sort of testing they were
doing or anything like that.
869
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:35,078
You know, that is possible
870
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,780
because it's
the early '60s.
871
00:38:36,782 --> 00:38:38,748
In fact, the timeframe
is perfect for it.
872
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:41,117
New laboratories
were being built,
873
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,219
new technologies
were being developed.
874
00:38:43,221 --> 00:38:46,489
A lot of that technology
would have been perfected
875
00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:48,525
at wright-patterson
air force base.
876
00:38:48,527 --> 00:38:50,827
Integrated circuits
and fiber optics
877
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:53,463
and new materials,
tough, durable materials
878
00:38:53,465 --> 00:38:54,531
for flight suits
879
00:38:54,533 --> 00:38:56,833
or anything that
they would spin off
880
00:38:56,835 --> 00:38:58,668
for a military
application.
881
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:59,836
So what you're telling us
882
00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:02,505
is that
wright-patterson air force base
883
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:05,442
might have engineered
flight suits
884
00:39:05,444 --> 00:39:07,711
and then that might explain
the potential
885
00:39:07,713 --> 00:39:09,946
for some mothman sightings.
886
00:39:09,948 --> 00:39:12,716
I'm saying exactly that.
887
00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:14,751
Phil: This was the height
of the cold war.
888
00:39:14,753 --> 00:39:16,419
What was the big motivation
at the time
889
00:39:16,421 --> 00:39:17,854
for developing
new technologies,
890
00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:20,256
something like a flight suit
or a parachute?
891
00:39:20,258 --> 00:39:23,159
The military would be interested
in some type
892
00:39:23,161 --> 00:39:26,629
of a singular soldier
air transportation
893
00:39:26,631 --> 00:39:28,598
because they could do
some sabotage
894
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,433
or they could do
some surveillance
895
00:39:30,435 --> 00:39:34,170
with either a parafoil
or a cruciform-type chute
896
00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:35,372
that was being developed
at the time
897
00:39:35,374 --> 00:39:37,307
or even those jet packs.
898
00:39:37,309 --> 00:39:39,142
And it turns out
that the wind tunnel
899
00:39:39,144 --> 00:39:40,477
at wright-patterson
air force base
900
00:39:40,479 --> 00:39:42,078
was used to
perfect the design.
901
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,546
Wow.
Oh.
902
00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:46,549
So the military was very much
aware of this new technology.
903
00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:49,352
And it's possible that flight
testing was being done,
904
00:39:49,354 --> 00:39:51,087
could have
been done anywhere.
905
00:39:51,089 --> 00:39:53,990
And perhaps when somebody
saw a person
906
00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:56,059
flying for
the very first time,
907
00:39:56,061 --> 00:39:58,194
could easily
have been misidentified
908
00:39:58,196 --> 00:40:00,563
as somebody
that we now call mothman.
909
00:40:02,467 --> 00:40:05,835
Josh: It's possible that mothman
may be related
910
00:40:05,837 --> 00:40:08,405
to an extraordinary
but very real
911
00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:10,507
top-secret government program.
912
00:40:10,509 --> 00:40:13,877
This now declassified footage
from 1961
913
00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:15,812
pulled from
the national archives
914
00:40:15,814 --> 00:40:18,982
shows early testing
of flying soldier technology.
915
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,987
Work on this continued
through the late 1960s.
916
00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:27,023
And by 1978 the delta force,
917
00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:30,493
the u.S. Military's most elite
special forces troops,
918
00:40:30,495 --> 00:40:33,329
was testing
combat flight suits in,
919
00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:35,999
you guessed it, west virginia.
920
00:40:36,001 --> 00:40:38,101
Such a program
could explain the visits
921
00:40:38,103 --> 00:40:40,503
from men in black,
government agents
922
00:40:40,505 --> 00:40:43,740
putting a lid
on our latest secret technology.
923
00:40:46,678 --> 00:40:50,013
And the recent point pleasant
eyewitness accounts,
924
00:40:50,015 --> 00:40:53,049
like many others,
phil and jess did detect animals
925
00:40:53,051 --> 00:40:56,586
living in the ruins
of the abandoned military plant.
926
00:40:56,588 --> 00:40:58,021
Jessica: Point your light
where you think you saw it.
927
00:40:58,023 --> 00:40:59,589
Phil: Right up here.
928
00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:01,090
I think I see something
on thermal.
929
00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:04,527
Oh, my god.
930
00:41:04,529 --> 00:41:06,496
But those who claim
it's a monster
931
00:41:06,498 --> 00:41:12,001
are probably getting caught up
in 50 years of mothman mania.
932
00:41:12,003 --> 00:41:13,770
As for the chicago sightings,
933
00:41:13,772 --> 00:41:15,338
we believe we were able
to rule out
934
00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:19,943
the possibility of a rogue base
jumper or wingsuit in flight.
935
00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:21,144
Phil: Is that doable?
936
00:41:21,146 --> 00:41:23,112
Oh, no, absolutely not.
937
00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:27,116
But photos continue to come in
from our remote wildlife cameras
938
00:41:27,118 --> 00:41:28,785
and the evidence is in.
939
00:41:28,787 --> 00:41:31,321
Sandhill crane, check.
940
00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:33,056
Golden eagle, check.
941
00:41:33,058 --> 00:41:35,792
But no mothman.
942
00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:38,962
Even jess now supports
phil's original suspicion
943
00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:41,698
that the recent chicago
sightings of the mothman
944
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:43,933
are nothing more than
the misidentification
945
00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:46,436
of large winged birds.
946
00:41:46,438 --> 00:41:48,605
The sandhill crane
and the golden eagle
947
00:41:48,607 --> 00:41:52,075
have enormous wingspans
at nearly 8 feet.
948
00:41:52,077 --> 00:41:55,445
Imagine seeing that soaring
in the windy city.
949
00:41:55,447 --> 00:41:58,414
You, too, might think
it's a monster.
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