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♪ MTV ♪
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[wind howling]
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[fans whistling and cheering]
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Open up and say, "Ah."
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Ahh...
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[Musak playing over speakers]
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[Janet] I grew up
in a dental family.
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My grandfather was a dentist.
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My uncles were dentists.
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My cousins
are dentists. [chuckles]
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All right, I could,
with check up.
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Everybody is
in the tooth business.
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Come in.
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How are you doing today?
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Most of my patients...
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[tool whirring]
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...have no idea
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that I was ever in a band
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[laughs]
or any of that.
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Spent the first part of my life
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in front of a bunch of people
with my mouth wide open.
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Now my patients have
their mouths wide open.
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[fans cheering]
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[emcee] Ladies and gentlemen,
put your hands together,
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Vixen!
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[rock music playing]
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[Janet] We were all part
of that hair metal scene.
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[rock music playing]
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It was like all of a sudden
being in the major leagues.
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In the '80s, hard rock
and roll, dominated the charts,
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and it was the greatest thing
in the world.
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People singing your songs,
the videos are doing incredible
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on MTV.
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[Dee]
Pants so tight you could tell
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I was circumcised.
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That's what you do in 1985.
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The, the term hair metal.
Well...
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I mean, what does it even mean?
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[John] Those dudes
with their palm tree hair,
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settin' chicks on fire
in a Ferrari.
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I don't know what that means.
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[laughs]
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[laughs] The hair blowing
in those videos.
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[Taime] There was
some pretty hokey shit,
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but not all of it.
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♪ Shake me all night ♪
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♪ She said shake me ♪
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♪ Shake it till... ♪
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[Katherine] The look,
the fashion, the hair.
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The Aqua Net.
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[Janet]
You'd take one section
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and just spray the Aqua Net on.
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And then you'd go
to the next section
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and spray the Aqua Net on.
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[Kip] We became
like the darlings on MTV.
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♪ Shake me all night ♪
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♪ She said shake me ♪
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And then, you know,
soon after that,
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everyone started hating us.
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[woman] It got
increasingly more absurd.
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[Lonn] MTV said
they're not cool anymore.
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Which I guess is
the kiss of death.
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There was definitely
a wind of change. [laughs]
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♪ Shake me all night ♪
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The rock star dream
was gonna die for you, dude.
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[Kip]
I had had enough.
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They just stopped playing it.
The end.
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[Vicky]
People were buzzing about
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the Seattle sound.
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[Nirvana rock flourish]
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And it was over.
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The dimensions to being
a rock star are enormous.
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You're not a normal human being
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if you're a rock star.
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You're something
out of the side of the box.
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When a musician, who's
just a dude that has a guitar,
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and he's playing it in his room
somewhere in Akron, Ohio,
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looks in the mirror
one morning and says,
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"You know what,
I'm not just a guitar player.
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I'm not just a guy
who flips burgers.
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I'm a rock star."
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Now then the shift happens,
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and all of a sudden
all these new elements come in.
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Well, they are carrying a burden
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that not the rest of us
are carrying.
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They're unique.
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They are not of this world.
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[men speaking indistinctly]
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[drums riffing]
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- [man 1 vocalizes]
- [man 2 vocalizes]
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- [man 3] You want a beer?
- [Sabo] You got beer? Yes!
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- You want a beer?
- Of course I do.
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[woman laughs] I almost
sat on it, and realized...
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[Sabo] I've been taking them
to school in the morning.
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- [man 3] Yeah.
- [Sabo] But one of our songs
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would come on the radio,
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and my daughter is like,
"Snaky? That's you."
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- [man 3] That's awesome.
- Yeah, it's fantastic.
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[man 3]
That is awesome.
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[riffing electric guitar
with no power]
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[people chattering]
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[Sabo] One of my older
brothers had a $40 guitar
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from the Sears and Roebuck
catalog.
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And the "Quick Picking, Fun
Strumming Home Guitar Course."
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- [man 1] Three minutes to show.
- [man 2 vocalizing]
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[man 1]
You guys ready to rock?
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Yes, sir.
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[Sabo] And I started out
playing on one string.
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But I was like,
"Holy crap, this sound."
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[crowd cheering]
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[man speaks indistinctly]
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[band starts playing rock song]
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[crowd cheering]
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I knew that music was my future.
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[rock music playing]
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The allure of being a rock star
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when I was growing up
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was this larger than life idea,
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a superhero in a sense.
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I'm this strange kid
from Sayreville, New Jersey.
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I've got a job
in this music store.
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One day, I see this guy walk in,
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he just looked like a rock star.
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I said, "You want
to come up and jam?"
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We had such a great time
playing together.
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We would write
until five, six in the morning
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and then wake up
at eight o'clock
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to go to our day jobs.
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And we were relentless.
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We were rehearsing every night.
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If we weren't rehearsing,
we were writing music.
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Good wasn't good enough.
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You had to be great.
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And if you were great,
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maybe you would get
that all-elusive record deal.
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I had the distinct advantage
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of my friend Jon Bon Jovi
living up the street from me.
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[playing rock music]
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He's several years older
than me.
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I love to say that.
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[rock music playing]
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Jon had been paying attention
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and listening to our music
and giving us advice.
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I get a phone call from Jon,
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"Come up to my mom's house.
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I want you to meet my manager."
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"Well, who is your manager?"
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"My manager is Doc McGhee."
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"Oh, my God, I know that name.
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It's on the back
of Motley Crue's
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'Too Fast for Love'".
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They're in the backyard
hanging out by the pool,
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and there's this myth of a man.
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This is my moment.
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Take it.
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I start going,
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"I'm the best
guitar player around here.
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I am going to be a big star.
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I'm going to have the greatest
band in the world,"
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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"And you're going
to manage me some day."
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He looks at me, takes
a little breath and goes,
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"That's a great story.
You want to go get me a beer?"
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[rock music playing]
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I just went...
[makes falling noise]
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[guitar strumming]
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[man 1] I'm just sitting there
waiting, man, like this.
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- [man 1] Beautiful song.
- [man 2] Can we go in there?
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[man speaks indistinctly]
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Wanna put a little
acoustic down?
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[John]
Sure.
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[groans]
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[John]
I'm John Corabi, singer,
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guitar player, songwriter
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from just every band but ABBA.
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[laughs]
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[rock music playing]
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[John] I don't know
what I'm doing now,
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if it's the right thing
or the wrong thing,
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I'm just doing a song.
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I let it sit for
two or three months.
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I just put a new song out.
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And let that sit
for another couple months.
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- You could put a four songs...
- Five.
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and then package
a little eight song album.
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- [Marti] You know?
- "Thriller" was eight songs.
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- [John] Was it?
- Yeah.
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- "Thriller"?
- Yeah.
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- Are you fucking kidding me?
- No.
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[John]
I think with this one
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I should be able
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to buy a bottle of Jameson
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with the royalties.
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- I'm a huge fan.
- That's a success.
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- I don't know.
- [man laughs]
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I don't-- I don't even know
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what the word means anymore.
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[dramatic theme playing]
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[John] I'm originally
from Philadelphia.
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Nobody in my family was musical,
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but there was music
always playing in the house.
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I was fascinated
with the Beatles.
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One year, I just came
downstairs, and my parents,
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I think they tried to cover
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both ends of the spectrum
with me.
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I had a guitar,
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and a microscope.
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"Let's get him a guitar.
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Maybe that will do
the creative thing,
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but hopefully he'll go
in this direction
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and be like a doctor
or something."
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And they failed miserably
on that one.
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I wanted to be a rock star.
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[playing rock music]
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In Philadelphia,
I went from this band
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to that band, to that band,
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to that band,
and I just graduated
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to a really popular band,
Angora.
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And we just started
plugging away
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and playing, writing.
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Some of the guys
went out to L.A.,
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telling us there's 50 clubs
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where you can play
original rock music.
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"We got to go to L.A."
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♪ Standing on the corner ♪
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Hollywood, USA, baby!
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Come on. Let's go.
I'm a ham. I'm a ham.
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Yeah!
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The Sunset Strip
was pure insanity.
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Those two blocks
from The Whisky to Doheny...
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was wall-to-wall palm tree hair,
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long jackets,
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girls in lingerie,
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fishnet stockings,
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high heels,
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dudes with as much makeup on
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as their chicks.
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Angora moved to L.A.,
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and we just started
plugging away.
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Maybe get a record deal.
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It's the golden ticket.
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[rock music playing]
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[Janet]
I was and still am very shy.
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I would never have mentioned,
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"I want to be a rock star."
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[chuckles] No.
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[dramatic theme playing]
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I grew up in Bozeman, Montana.
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My parents were Mormon.
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As young Mormon women,
young ladies,
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we were supposed to be groomed
to be good wives and mothers.
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We would learn how
to brush our hair,
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and put on makeup
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and look attractive,
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and learn how to cook
and do all that kind of stuff.
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I definitely knew I didn't fit
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in that whole thing.
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[laughs] There was something,
something amiss about all that.
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When I first started
to get into rock,
260
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I remember checking out
female bands.
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♪ It's hard to live
when you're by yourself ♪
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[Janet] I remember
checking out Fanny.
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♪ Free, free spirit ♪
264
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There was a band called Birtha.
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♪ I got a free ♪
266
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[The Go-Go's "We Got the Beat"]
267
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And, of course, The Go-Go's.
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♪ We got the beat ♪
269
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- ♪ We got the beat ♪
- ♪ We got the beat ♪
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♪ Hello, world,
I'm your wild girl ♪
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♪ Like a ch-ch-ch... ♪
272
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The Runaways...
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♪ Cherry bomb! ♪
274
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But there were very few.
275
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But they were all really good.
276
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So it was like,
girls can do this.
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These are The Young Americans.
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♪ Shenandoah, Shenandoah ♪
279
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I ended up going to see
The Young Americans.
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I was blown away.
281
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They were like my age...
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♪ Oh, I vow to thee ♪
283
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...doing amazingly slick,
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professional performing.
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♪ Shenandoah ♪
286
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Afterwards, they were running
around out in the halls.
287
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I said, "Wow, I was blown away.
288
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You are all so talented.
289
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This was amazing."
290
00:13:04,952 --> 00:13:07,087
They're like,
"You should audition."
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The director came out.
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He said, "Just sing me
a song that you like."
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So out of nowhere,
I picked a Bonnie Raitt song,
294
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and he was like, "Oh, you know,
you have a great voice."
295
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[crowd whooping]
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I crossed my fingers,
297
00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:22,569
and sure enough, I got picked.
298
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♪ I've seen it all
and how do I make you? ♪
299
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♪ How do I make you? ♪
300
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The Young Americans,
they were based in California,
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and I was like, "This is where
everything is happening.
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This is where I should be."
303
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So I called my parents and said,
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I'm not coming home. [laughs]
305
00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:40,854
That didn't go over very big.
306
00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:43,023
You know, I quit school
without telling 'em.
307
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And then I started checking out
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the local rock scene.
309
00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,929
It was competitive.
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Everybody was trying
to get the most attention,
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trying to get
that elusive record deal.
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All of the bands
that were playing
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that scene at the time
were getting signed.
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If you could draw a good crowd,
you could get a record deal.
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So who didn't want to be there?
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- [man] Let me hear ya.
- [electric guitar strumming]
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[Kip] I never wanted
to be in the L.A. thing.
318
00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:20,260
New York suited me perfectly
because it was like,
319
00:14:20,327 --> 00:14:22,795
education center, you know.
320
00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,232
It wasn't about sex,
drugs and rock 'n' roll.
321
00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:26,934
That's never what I was about.
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In New York, I can go see
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the New York City Ballet
one night,
324
00:14:30,403 --> 00:14:32,472
and I can go
to Radio City Music Hall
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00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:34,007
and see something else,
and then I can go
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00:14:34,074 --> 00:14:36,409
to Madison Square Garden
and see something.
327
00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:38,511
You know, like that was my vibe.
328
00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:43,951
I had a dream very early.
329
00:14:44,017 --> 00:14:45,919
I did my first professional gig
at eight,
330
00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:49,689
my guitar broke ten strings,
and it was just an awful gig.
331
00:14:50,924 --> 00:14:52,759
But I got paid 30 bucks
332
00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:55,028
and I thought, "I'm in.
This is it for me."
333
00:14:56,196 --> 00:14:57,830
I was just a little punk.
334
00:14:57,931 --> 00:15:00,033
I was like, you know,
I just wanted to rock.
335
00:15:02,102 --> 00:15:04,271
I lived in Hoboken,
336
00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:07,040
I'd go in the city
and take ballet class.
337
00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:09,109
I took bass lessons.
338
00:15:09,176 --> 00:15:12,045
A couple composition lessons
from a cat from Juilliard.
339
00:15:12,112 --> 00:15:14,681
I was always doing
a little bit here
340
00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:15,949
and a little bit there.
341
00:15:18,385 --> 00:15:20,220
I was shopping as a solo artist.
342
00:15:20,287 --> 00:15:22,855
For years.
343
00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,958
Totally bumming,
I mean, it was like,
344
00:15:25,025 --> 00:15:26,994
I'm never going to get anywhere.
345
00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:29,496
- Okay, go. Oh!
- [man 2] Oh! We got that.
346
00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:31,965
One of my very good friends,
Beau Hill,
347
00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:34,067
had a room in Atlantic Studios.
348
00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:37,204
He was producing Ratt,
349
00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,672
and he would
have me play bass on stuff
350
00:15:39,739 --> 00:15:41,174
and do some background vocals.
351
00:15:43,143 --> 00:15:44,711
So I was kind of
like his backup,
352
00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:47,347
like a utility team.
353
00:15:47,414 --> 00:15:48,982
I gave him all these demos
354
00:15:49,082 --> 00:15:50,883
and he kept playing 'em
for record companies
355
00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,052
that would just keep saying,
356
00:15:52,119 --> 00:15:53,653
"This is terrible,"
357
00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,189
and "Don't play me
anymore Kip Winger."
358
00:15:57,624 --> 00:15:58,825
For the most part,
359
00:15:58,891 --> 00:16:00,360
I was dead in the water.
360
00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:02,695
[tense music intensifies]
361
00:16:10,237 --> 00:16:12,005
[man speaks indistinctly]
362
00:16:12,072 --> 00:16:13,573
[Vicky]
It's hard to really describe
363
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,977
what it is
that makes a band sparkle.
364
00:16:19,512 --> 00:16:23,250
[vocalizing]
365
00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:24,517
Whoops. Sorry.
366
00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:25,952
[vocalizing continues]
367
00:16:26,019 --> 00:16:28,688
It's that
hair raising experience
368
00:16:28,755 --> 00:16:30,790
of when you hear their voice.
369
00:16:30,857 --> 00:16:32,892
[vocalizing over speakers]
370
00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:41,268
♪ Hello, world ♪
371
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:45,205
You just know
that they can do it.
372
00:16:45,272 --> 00:16:46,973
[man] That's good.
Sounds good, huh?
373
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,241
[Vicky] Yeah.
374
00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:55,115
Ever since I was a child,
375
00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:56,949
I decided that I was going to be
376
00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:59,852
the best rock and roll manager
on the planet.
377
00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:05,325
I managed
my first boyfriend's bands.
378
00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:08,961
There just
wasn't really an outlet
379
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,997
to go any farther.
380
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,602
I knew I had
to save up some money
381
00:17:15,667 --> 00:17:17,470
and move to California.
382
00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:20,507
And that's exactly what I did.
383
00:17:20,573 --> 00:17:22,075
I ended up taking a job
384
00:17:22,142 --> 00:17:23,310
at Licorice Pizza,
385
00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,810
which was the record store
386
00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:27,513
catty corner
from the Whisky a Go-Go.
387
00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:29,849
[indistinct chatter]
388
00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:31,851
If location is everything,
389
00:17:31,918 --> 00:17:33,286
this was the spot.
390
00:17:34,921 --> 00:17:38,291
There was always a concert
going on at the Whisky.
391
00:17:38,358 --> 00:17:39,826
It was love at first sight.
392
00:17:39,892 --> 00:17:41,694
[rock music playing]
393
00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:42,929
What's up!
394
00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:44,030
Metalheads!
395
00:17:44,097 --> 00:17:45,498
We're gonna be big some day.
396
00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:48,335
[Vicky]
Drugs, alcohol,
397
00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:50,670
partying,
398
00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:54,040
nonstop music all the time.
399
00:17:54,107 --> 00:17:57,544
There were so many great
looking rocker dudes in there.
400
00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:59,779
We didn't have that in Indiana.
401
00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:01,314
[Hamilton laughs]
402
00:18:02,949 --> 00:18:04,517
I ended up meeting Motley Crue
403
00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:07,854
because Nikki Sixx
came into my store.
404
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,190
We had a thing called
Borrow Book.
405
00:18:10,257 --> 00:18:12,725
Nikki would ask me
to get records for him,
406
00:18:12,792 --> 00:18:13,860
and he'd take 'em out,
but then he would
407
00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:15,395
never bring the records back.
408
00:18:15,462 --> 00:18:17,497
So then I would end up
having to buy them.
409
00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:21,234
Motley Crue,
when I first met them,
410
00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:22,469
they hadn't been signed.
411
00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:23,970
They were just putting out
412
00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:27,807
their first six inch record.
413
00:18:27,874 --> 00:18:30,009
My manager instinct
like kicked in,
414
00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:32,379
and I knew
they were going to be huge.
415
00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:33,680
Put them up all through
416
00:18:33,746 --> 00:18:36,082
the Licorice Pizza stores.
417
00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:39,085
Then my boss said,
"Those better all sell,
418
00:18:39,152 --> 00:18:41,120
or you're going
to lose your job." [laughs]
419
00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:43,423
I had shared with Nikki
420
00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:44,591
that I wanted to be a manager
421
00:18:44,657 --> 00:18:45,992
and I was like,
422
00:18:46,058 --> 00:18:48,161
"Wow, you can,
like, work with us."
423
00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:50,530
Management agreements
are kind of like marriages.
424
00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:53,099
You don't really know
if it's going to work,
425
00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:55,268
until you're actually in it.
426
00:19:08,948 --> 00:19:11,318
[Candy's "The Weekend's
Here Again"]
427
00:19:14,287 --> 00:19:16,789
♪ The weekend's here again ♪
428
00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:20,126
[Jonathan]
I was in a band called Candy.
429
00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:22,729
We wanted to look like
four Nikki Sixxes.
430
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:25,698
We all had long, tall,
431
00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:28,201
big black hair.
432
00:19:28,268 --> 00:19:30,403
The bigger the hair,
the bigger the paycheck.
433
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:33,540
♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪
434
00:19:33,606 --> 00:19:37,043
♪ Whatever happened
to fun? ♪
435
00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:39,646
♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪
436
00:19:41,448 --> 00:19:43,283
[Jonathan] We started
playing gigs in L.A.,
437
00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:46,286
but we had no following,
we had no friends.
438
00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:49,756
And we didn't really have
any idea how to build one.
439
00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:52,759
Nobody had a record deal.
440
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:54,261
Nobody was on the radio,
441
00:19:54,327 --> 00:19:57,230
so it was really
hand-to-hand combat.
442
00:19:57,297 --> 00:20:00,733
♪ One, two, three,
let's go! ♪
443
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,836
[Craig] Self promotion
was the name of the game.
444
00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:06,473
Every Friday, Saturday night
on the Strip,
445
00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:09,175
every band
that wasn't inside the club
446
00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:11,010
was outside the club
on the sidewalk,
447
00:20:11,077 --> 00:20:12,445
handing out these flyers.
448
00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:14,781
Rock Asylum is a hot band
from New York.
449
00:20:14,847 --> 00:20:16,616
[Katherine] Bands would
just go hand flyers to women.
450
00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:18,585
That's how you met people.
It was really...
451
00:20:18,651 --> 00:20:20,487
pre-Internet,
how you found out about a show.
452
00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:22,822
"Oh, come to my show,
come to my show."
453
00:20:22,889 --> 00:20:25,124
[Katherine] You've got your
flyer, "three dollars off."
454
00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:29,329
Cool, all right. You know, you
needed that three dollars off.
455
00:20:29,396 --> 00:20:30,863
[Craig]
You would try to find
456
00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:34,133
a color that nobody else
was using.
457
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,369
You had to have
a really good photo,
458
00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:40,039
sort of sexy or menacing.
459
00:20:40,106 --> 00:20:42,309
And then you would have,
like, the name of the band,
460
00:20:42,375 --> 00:20:45,845
so you would need
some sort of interesting logo.
461
00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:48,781
And then hopefully you have
some dates scheduled,
462
00:20:48,848 --> 00:20:51,183
if you weren't a total poser,
463
00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:52,619
and then a ticket hotline
464
00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,321
where people could call
and be like,
465
00:20:54,387 --> 00:20:57,357
"Hey, this is Tommy
from Paradise,
466
00:20:57,424 --> 00:20:59,726
and we're going
to rock your ass."
467
00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:01,894
[Taime] You had
all the poles covered,
468
00:21:01,961 --> 00:21:03,630
the ground covered.
469
00:21:03,696 --> 00:21:05,498
You couldn't see the sidewalk
470
00:21:05,565 --> 00:21:08,501
from Tower Records all the way
up to Gil Turner's.
471
00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:10,637
It looked like it was
New Year's Eve every night.
472
00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:14,507
[Janet]
Poison was the kings
473
00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:16,343
of flyering.
474
00:21:16,409 --> 00:21:18,678
[Vicky] Poison had
this whole system worked out
475
00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:21,381
where they would go out
in the van
476
00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:24,351
and one guy
would like stir the glue.
477
00:21:24,417 --> 00:21:26,686
The next guy would
put the glue on the poster
478
00:21:26,753 --> 00:21:28,020
and they would do this...
479
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,656
and then they would jump
out of the van
480
00:21:29,722 --> 00:21:31,257
and get on
each other's shoulders
481
00:21:31,324 --> 00:21:33,993
to put them up high
on the poles.
482
00:21:34,060 --> 00:21:36,496
You can't rip 'em down
if you can't reach 'em.
483
00:21:36,563 --> 00:21:38,264
And after every concert,
484
00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:40,700
there would be tons of litter
485
00:21:40,767 --> 00:21:42,902
and flyers everywhere. [laughs]
486
00:21:42,969 --> 00:21:46,172
[Jonathan] The Beverly Hills
Police cracked down on that.
487
00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:48,875
If you got caught stapling
flyers to the telephone poles,
488
00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:50,510
you'd have
to do community service,
489
00:21:50,577 --> 00:21:52,044
taking them off.
490
00:21:52,111 --> 00:21:53,913
- [wood creaking]
- [Craig] You can't imagine
491
00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:56,383
the number of trees
that had to die
492
00:21:56,449 --> 00:21:59,018
in the name of metal.
493
00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:13,032
[Janet]
I got a job at Guitar Center,
494
00:22:13,099 --> 00:22:16,035
which was another great way
to meet musicians.
495
00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:17,937
And at one point,
some girl comes up to me
496
00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:21,240
and she goes, "I know
a band you'd be perfect for."
497
00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:26,779
So I got a call
from a guy who said,
498
00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:28,815
"I am the manager of the group
499
00:22:28,881 --> 00:22:30,817
that's looking for a singer."
500
00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:32,385
So I said, "Hmm."
501
00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:33,920
I was looking for suspicious
502
00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:37,590
long haired guys,
you know, musician-y types.
503
00:22:37,657 --> 00:22:39,225
I said,
"I didn't see anybody."
504
00:22:39,392 --> 00:22:41,794
And he goes, "Yeah, they're
right over at the bar."
505
00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:44,564
And it was Jan and Lori.
506
00:22:44,631 --> 00:22:49,436
And I was like,
"Oh! It's a girl thing!"
507
00:22:49,502 --> 00:22:50,937
But I had
never done that before.
508
00:22:51,003 --> 00:22:54,674
I was always "the girl"
in the band.
509
00:22:54,741 --> 00:22:57,644
And we got together
and it was a blast.
510
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:58,811
We just hit it off.
511
00:22:58,878 --> 00:22:59,946
I mean, once in a while,
512
00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:01,347
I would smile and stuff, too.
513
00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:02,682
"Get ass!" [vocalizes]
514
00:23:02,749 --> 00:23:04,684
- [growling]
- [laughter]
515
00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:06,453
[Janet] We pretty much
spent all our time
516
00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:10,690
rehearsing and playing
the Strip.
517
00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:14,193
We ended up going on the road
a lot, though,
518
00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:19,198
station wagon,
van pulling a U-Haul trailer,
519
00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:21,200
playing any place
and every place
520
00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:22,869
that we could, from anywhere
521
00:23:22,935 --> 00:23:27,106
from five people
to a couple hundred people.
522
00:23:27,173 --> 00:23:29,442
We're going to do
whatever we have to do
523
00:23:29,509 --> 00:23:32,211
to get the attention
we need to get signed,
524
00:23:32,278 --> 00:23:34,514
make records and be rock stars.
525
00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,749
[rock music plays]
526
00:23:48,695 --> 00:23:51,297
The first bit
of pip?? overdubbing.
527
00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:52,832
The camera'd been on
about three seconds...
528
00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:54,967
and he fucked up!
[exaggerated laugh]
529
00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:57,704
While I was waiting tables
in Hoboken, New Jersey,
530
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,972
Beau called me up and said,
"Hey, get up here.
531
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,074
We need four songs
for Alice Cooper.
532
00:24:02,141 --> 00:24:03,876
I was like, "Oh, my God!"
533
00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:06,212
- [people chattering]
- [playing bass line]
534
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:08,214
I was a huge Alice Cooper fan.
535
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,982
A huge Alice Cooper fan.
536
00:24:10,049 --> 00:24:11,818
I knew more about Alice Cooper
537
00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:13,653
then he could remember.
538
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,089
That was like, preparation
met with opportunity.
539
00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:20,059
Walked in, playing
that shit first take.
540
00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:21,728
It was like, "Yes!"
541
00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,329
You know, just like...
542
00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:25,598
[makes arrow whooshing
and hitting target sound]
543
00:24:25,665 --> 00:24:27,333
And so I said, "Alice, man,
544
00:24:27,399 --> 00:24:29,268
if you go out on tour,
call me up."
545
00:24:29,335 --> 00:24:32,104
But I remember him going,
"Okay, I'll keep that in mind."
546
00:24:32,171 --> 00:24:34,106
But nothing,
nothing, nothing, nothing.
547
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:35,542
And then they called me up
and said,
548
00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:36,843
"Hey, do you want
to do the gig?"
549
00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:38,511
And I was like...
550
00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:39,979
[playing rock music]
551
00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:44,784
I had really short hair.
552
00:24:44,851 --> 00:24:47,186
And they made us get
hair extensions,
553
00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:49,689
and then the next day,
I've got hair down to here,
554
00:24:49,756 --> 00:24:52,692
and we're all doing the Alice
Cooper show biz thing.
555
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:57,429
♪ For criminal acts
and violence on the stage ♪
556
00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,099
Two months before,
I was waiting tables.
557
00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:02,535
Two months later,
got on the stage,
558
00:25:02,602 --> 00:25:04,270
sold out Joe Louis Arena,
559
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:06,038
live on MTV,
560
00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:08,741
20,000 people flipping out,
561
00:25:08,808 --> 00:25:10,643
and I had to get oriented.
562
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:14,581
I was completely losing myself
in this, you know,
563
00:25:14,647 --> 00:25:15,915
"Oh, my God,
I'm playing bass."
564
00:25:15,982 --> 00:25:19,586
♪ You can go to hell ♪
565
00:25:19,652 --> 00:25:22,254
As much as I loved Alice,
I felt like,
566
00:25:22,321 --> 00:25:24,557
you know, once a side man,
always a side man.
567
00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:26,593
I said that I was leaving,
you know,
568
00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:27,960
and everybody was like,
"What? You're leaving?
569
00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:29,896
Oh, my God,
this is a great band,
570
00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:31,731
and we're going to go out
on the road for another year,"
571
00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,802
and everybody was like,
"Wow! What a move!"
572
00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:37,604
It's really hot, so don't blow
573
00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:39,739
your voice out
on the first pass.
574
00:25:39,806 --> 00:25:41,173
But it was
a pretty cool band, man,
575
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,142
and that's where I met Reb.
576
00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:46,445
♪ She's so downhearted ♪
577
00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:49,816
♪ She's what you want,
what you need ♪
578
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,484
[Kip] I was like,
"Let's start a band, you know.
579
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:53,853
We should
put something together."
580
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,755
♪ Drops the bomb ♪
581
00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:07,233
[playing rock music]
582
00:26:14,073 --> 00:26:15,875
[Sabo]
We're working.
583
00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:17,810
I'm working at the music store,
Rachel and I are writing.
584
00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:19,979
We're rehearsing like crazy.
585
00:26:20,046 --> 00:26:22,849
And Jon, he's getting ready
to go on tour.
586
00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:25,117
So he's like, "You want to
come out and do three shows?"
587
00:26:25,184 --> 00:26:28,855
And we're like,
"No. No, I'd rather,
588
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:31,323
I'd rather sit here
and work in the music store
589
00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:33,993
for 12 hours a day
and hear kids playing
590
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,828
"Smoke on the Water"
and "Stairway to Heaven".
591
00:26:35,895 --> 00:26:38,164
The singer
that we had at the time
592
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,399
was this kid named Matt Fallon.
593
00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:45,237
Matt was a good singer,
but he wasn't great.
594
00:26:45,304 --> 00:26:47,707
So we go to those shows
and we play,
595
00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:50,576
and we think we're the shit.
596
00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:54,313
After the show, Doc McGhee
comes in the dressing room,
597
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:56,548
and goes, "You guys are good.
598
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:58,184
You got really good songs.
599
00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:59,919
Your singer sucks."
600
00:26:59,986 --> 00:27:01,988
I'm like, "Yeah?"
601
00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:03,856
He goes,
"You got to get a new singer."
602
00:27:03,923 --> 00:27:07,927
We were auditioning singer
after singer after singer.
603
00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:11,931
And we knew that if we could
find the right person,
604
00:27:11,998 --> 00:27:14,734
these songs would speak
for themselves.
605
00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:16,435
[playing rock music]
606
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:22,508
[screams out]
607
00:27:22,574 --> 00:27:26,445
Mark Weiss, who's a very
renowned rock photographer,
608
00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:29,015
he has a wedding.
609
00:27:29,081 --> 00:27:30,750
At that wedding,
610
00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:34,220
a young singer by the name
of Sebastian Bach.
611
00:27:34,286 --> 00:27:35,587
And he's crazy.
612
00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:37,389
He's like six-foot-twelve
613
00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:39,859
and his hair is outrageous.
614
00:27:39,926 --> 00:27:41,460
But he's an amazing singer.
615
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,965
We sent Sebastian four songs...
616
00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:48,167
- [Sebastian] Huh!
- [band playing rock music]
617
00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:54,440
He says he loves the songs.
618
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:56,542
We're like, "Well, do you want
to come down and audition?"
619
00:27:57,977 --> 00:27:59,645
So we fly him in from Toronto,
620
00:27:59,712 --> 00:28:01,247
where he was living,
621
00:28:01,313 --> 00:28:04,650
and shows up at my mom's house.
622
00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:06,986
One of the first things he says,
623
00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:08,154
"Yo, dudes, what's up?
624
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:11,057
I got a nine-inch dick."
625
00:28:11,123 --> 00:28:14,060
And Rachel looks at me,
but he says to me,
626
00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,996
"He's a great singer,
but it's going to be trouble."
627
00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:28,941
[rock music playing]
628
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,112
[John]
Angora had a lot of interest
629
00:28:33,179 --> 00:28:35,114
from different labels,
630
00:28:35,181 --> 00:28:37,283
different managers.
631
00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:39,518
Gene Simmons
was interested in us.
632
00:28:39,585 --> 00:28:42,922
We did a demo tape
with Steve Vai.
633
00:28:43,856 --> 00:28:44,857
So we were getting
634
00:28:44,924 --> 00:28:46,258
a lot of interest.
635
00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,795
[rock music playing]
636
00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:53,465
We had a rehearsal room
that was 500 a month.
637
00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:56,668
I was kind of
the de facto leader.
638
00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,806
And I'd go, "Okay, I need
your... I need your rent money.
639
00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:01,440
It's the first."
640
00:29:01,507 --> 00:29:04,811
Some of the guys
would not have their rent money
641
00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:07,780
for rehearsal,
but then I'd see them
642
00:29:07,847 --> 00:29:10,549
the next day
with a giant bag of weed,
643
00:29:10,616 --> 00:29:13,152
and I just said,
"I came out here
644
00:29:13,219 --> 00:29:14,887
to get a record deal.
645
00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:17,123
I came here to be a rock star,
646
00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:20,026
and you're kind of
fucking with my plan."
647
00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:24,030
But then a couple of 'em
actually started smoking crack.
648
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:27,233
Equipment started
to go missing, and...
649
00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:29,902
and I just said,
"You know what, I'm out."
650
00:29:29,969 --> 00:29:31,971
♪ Whoo! ♪
651
00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:42,514
['80s pop music playing]
652
00:29:42,581 --> 00:29:44,250
[Janet]
Within probably a few months
653
00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,352
of joining the band,
we ended up doing
654
00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:48,921
this goofy movie Hardbodies,
655
00:29:48,988 --> 00:29:50,622
and some of our songs
were in that.
656
00:29:50,689 --> 00:29:53,092
[rock flourish]
657
00:29:53,159 --> 00:29:54,426
♪ Oh ♪
658
00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:55,895
And of course,
659
00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:58,597
my Mormon mother went to see it.
660
00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:00,466
I warned her.
661
00:30:00,532 --> 00:30:02,068
I said, "Trust me.
662
00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,203
You don't want
to see this movie." [laughs]
663
00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:08,407
♪ By the phone, all alone ♪
664
00:30:08,474 --> 00:30:10,242
And I think she brought
665
00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,378
a couple of
her friends with her.
666
00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:14,413
She said, "Oh, it was fun."
667
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,084
Right on, Mom!
668
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,585
What record company
you guys record for?
669
00:30:20,686 --> 00:30:22,154
Uh, we don't have a label.
670
00:30:22,221 --> 00:30:23,589
We can't even get a gig.
671
00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:25,091
[laughter]
672
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:26,625
[Janet]
We kind of realized
673
00:30:26,692 --> 00:30:29,061
we need to find a manager now.
674
00:30:29,128 --> 00:30:32,831
Alan Kovac did have
a couple of great artists.
675
00:30:32,899 --> 00:30:34,967
He was like,
"I know I can do this.
676
00:30:35,034 --> 00:30:37,669
I know I can make this happen,
and I'll get you signed."
677
00:30:37,736 --> 00:30:39,638
And it didn't take him long
678
00:30:39,705 --> 00:30:41,908
to come back
with record deal offers.
679
00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:44,276
And we were stunned.
680
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:46,745
It was exciting,
but it was also scary
681
00:30:46,812 --> 00:30:48,915
to sign on that dotted line.
682
00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:52,818
So like this sound...
683
00:30:52,885 --> 00:30:55,754
[electronic pulsing beats
playing over speakers]
684
00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:57,523
Because it's an octave down
in the solo.
685
00:30:57,589 --> 00:30:59,125
I programmed an octave down.
686
00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:01,527
So maybe just this sound
in the solo, you know,
687
00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:03,429
where it's panning and shit.
688
00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:05,764
[Kip] I said read to Reb,
"Like, let's make a pact."
689
00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:07,967
No outside work for six months.
690
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,601
Like you don't take one job.
691
00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:11,203
I am not going to do anything,
692
00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:14,173
but we're going to focus
on writing songs.
693
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,042
- This is where I sing.
- [Kip] And we'll make demos.
694
00:31:16,108 --> 00:31:17,443
We're making the album now.
695
00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:19,311
And we'll try
to get a record deal.
696
00:31:19,378 --> 00:31:22,814
[rock music playing]
697
00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:36,062
It was four guys who had played
698
00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,064
their whole lives in clubs
699
00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,968
and different bands,
putting a band together.
700
00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:44,303
I mean, first day
we wrote "Madalaine",
701
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:46,973
"Time to Surrender"
and maybe even "Seventeen".
702
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,474
[Kip] Do you remember
that cord thing
703
00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:49,976
you did in the very beginning
of it? The...
704
00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:51,443
[vocalizing chord progression]
705
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:55,847
[playing chord progression]
706
00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:58,884
[Kip] Reb and I worked
for six months.
707
00:31:58,951 --> 00:32:01,353
And everybody
turned us down still.
708
00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:03,355
Beau Hill was very good friends
709
00:32:03,422 --> 00:32:05,924
with Doug Morris at Atlantic.
710
00:32:05,992 --> 00:32:09,528
Doug was like, "Don't play me
anymore Kip Winger."
711
00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:11,563
Beau just said,
"Just listen to this."
712
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:13,032
[playing rock music]
713
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,709
What planet are you from, man?
That's great.
714
00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,344
We got it!
715
00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:26,945
Doug was like,
"That sounds pretty good.
716
00:32:27,146 --> 00:32:29,781
Okay, well, we'll just
give you the minimum deal."
717
00:32:29,848 --> 00:32:31,183
Like, we got the worst deal.
718
00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:33,052
And we're like, "We'll take it.
719
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:36,188
Just give us a shot
and we'll fucking take it."
720
00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,094
[Sabo]
We started getting interest
721
00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:44,363
from Atlantic Records.
722
00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:46,465
They fly on a helicopter.
723
00:32:46,532 --> 00:32:48,600
We're playing
a roller skating rink.
724
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,636
['80s pop music playing]
725
00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:54,740
You know, you expect this
to be happening,
726
00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:58,544
some posh venue in New York
City or Los Angeles.
727
00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:02,648
We're in Bethlehem,
Pennsylvania at a roller rink.
728
00:33:02,714 --> 00:33:05,451
They're like,
"We want the band."
729
00:33:05,517 --> 00:33:07,619
We were like,
"Oh, my God!"
730
00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:11,557
The record deal
to a young musician
731
00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:13,325
is the Holy Grail.
732
00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:14,893
It's what sets you apart
733
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,895
from every other band
in the club circuit.
734
00:33:16,962 --> 00:33:19,498
♪ We are the youth
gone wild! ♪
735
00:33:19,565 --> 00:33:21,333
We were getting a shot.
736
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,302
We were getting a shot
to have our music
737
00:33:23,369 --> 00:33:25,304
on a frigging album,
738
00:33:25,371 --> 00:33:29,775
with that Atlantic Records A
in the center of it.
739
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,644
We're on the same label
as Led Zeppelin, man.
740
00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:34,746
♪ We are the youth gone wild! ♪
741
00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:36,448
[vocalizing]
742
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,350
[band vocalizing]
743
00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:40,586
[vocalizing]
744
00:33:40,652 --> 00:33:42,688
♪ We are the youth gone wild! ♪
745
00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:45,757
♪ We've gone wild!
Gone wild! ♪
746
00:33:45,824 --> 00:33:48,827
[Kip] You're strapped
to that rocket ship, man.
747
00:33:48,894 --> 00:33:50,862
And you're riding this thing
748
00:33:50,929 --> 00:33:52,364
and you don't know
where it's going,
749
00:33:52,431 --> 00:33:54,300
but you know it's going forward.
750
00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:01,640
[Katherine] Sebastian Bach
was kind of like
751
00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:04,543
nothing you'd ever seen before.
752
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:06,345
He had the aura
of the rock star.
753
00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:08,147
He had the "It."
He had the je ne sais quoi.
754
00:34:08,214 --> 00:34:10,549
He had the whatever.
Not everyone can do that.
755
00:34:10,616 --> 00:34:13,284
David Lee Roth had that,
756
00:34:13,351 --> 00:34:15,353
Bret Michaels has it.
757
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:18,657
That's why these bands
all are up there.
758
00:34:18,724 --> 00:34:20,826
So I wrote a book called
"Louder Than Hell".
759
00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:24,496
It's billed as the definitive
history of metal.
760
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:26,864
And so my co-writer and I
went to people
761
00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:28,867
and were like, you know,
"What is metal?"
762
00:34:28,934 --> 00:34:30,502
"Where did metal start?"
763
00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:32,003
♪ Gotta kick out my... ♪
764
00:34:33,539 --> 00:34:35,741
The first wave of metal,
765
00:34:35,806 --> 00:34:37,342
where it all began.
766
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,578
♪ Gonna kick out the jams ♪
767
00:34:39,645 --> 00:34:41,313
♪ Yeah, kick out the jams ♪
768
00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:44,550
Detroit was kind of
the proving ground
769
00:34:44,616 --> 00:34:46,284
of the MC5.
770
00:34:47,418 --> 00:34:48,820
Then came The Stooges.
771
00:34:50,289 --> 00:34:51,989
♪ I got you under my wheels ♪
772
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:53,425
[Katherine] Alice Cooper.
773
00:34:53,492 --> 00:34:56,161
♪ Got you under my wheels ♪
774
00:34:56,228 --> 00:34:57,496
["Cat Scratch Fever"]
775
00:34:57,563 --> 00:34:59,498
And Ted Nugent.
776
00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:03,935
Distortion, loud guitars,
just antics, energy.
777
00:35:04,002 --> 00:35:06,905
You know, who-gives-a-shit
kind of passions.
778
00:35:06,972 --> 00:35:09,541
[Led Zeppelin's "Rock and Roll"]
779
00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:11,877
In England, Zeppelin...
780
00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:15,347
♪ There once was a woman,
a strange kind of woman ♪
781
00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:16,448
Deep Purple.
782
00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:18,517
♪ Man in uniform ♪
783
00:35:18,584 --> 00:35:20,219
Iron Maiden.
784
00:35:20,286 --> 00:35:21,820
[playing hard rock]
785
00:35:24,022 --> 00:35:25,791
We all arrived at Black Sabbath.
786
00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:28,794
Everyone sort of arrives
at Black Sabbath.
787
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:30,796
Ozzy may not arrive there,
you know, he said,
788
00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:33,265
"Well, we're just a fucking
blues band, aren't we?"
789
00:35:33,332 --> 00:35:34,866
[rock music playing]
790
00:35:39,338 --> 00:35:41,473
Van Halen were from Pasadena,
791
00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:44,443
and they had a whole lot
of backyard parties.
792
00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:47,379
And they played Gazzarri's.
793
00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,448
And they influenced
so many other bands.
794
00:35:49,515 --> 00:35:51,883
[guitar riffing]
795
00:35:54,186 --> 00:35:58,757
Van Halen had the template
for the shredding guitarist.
796
00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:00,759
The outrageous frontman
with the hair.
797
00:36:02,694 --> 00:36:04,430
Never would I call them metal,
798
00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:05,964
never would I call them
hair metal,
799
00:36:06,031 --> 00:36:09,000
but an influence
on every single band
800
00:36:09,067 --> 00:36:11,470
that was metal
that came afterwards for sure.
801
00:36:11,537 --> 00:36:15,073
♪ Come on, feel the noise ♪
802
00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:17,243
♪ Girls, rock your boys ♪
803
00:36:17,309 --> 00:36:19,911
Quiet Riot were definitely
one of the first wave
804
00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:23,315
of the Los Angeles bands
starting in the '70s.
805
00:36:23,382 --> 00:36:25,317
"Metal Health" was,
unbelievably,
806
00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:28,987
the first to metal album
to top the Billboard charts.
807
00:36:29,054 --> 00:36:31,657
Provided the impetus, like,
metal, it might be happening.
808
00:36:31,723 --> 00:36:33,692
People are buying it.
We can do it.
809
00:36:35,661 --> 00:36:38,530
[MTV opening flourish plays]
810
00:36:38,597 --> 00:36:40,666
Of course,
MTV played a huge part
811
00:36:40,732 --> 00:36:42,133
in the explosion of metal.
812
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,036
♪ We're not gonna take it ♪
813
00:36:45,103 --> 00:36:47,339
Both Twisted Sister
and Quiet Riot
814
00:36:47,406 --> 00:36:52,110
tapped into the teenage boy
angst thing in their videos.
815
00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:55,514
Hits disenfranchised kids
everywhere.
816
00:36:55,581 --> 00:36:57,349
Take check.
817
00:36:57,416 --> 00:36:59,551
[man] Here we go.
818
00:36:59,618 --> 00:37:01,687
- Just don't kick my coffee...
- [laughter]
819
00:37:01,753 --> 00:37:04,656
because that would be
the end of our friendship.
820
00:37:05,957 --> 00:37:08,193
Well, MTV was a visual medium,
821
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,462
and, uh, they were quickly,
822
00:37:10,529 --> 00:37:13,632
uh, scurrying around
to find bands
823
00:37:13,699 --> 00:37:15,667
that were visually interesting.
824
00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:19,505
And lo and behold,
in the heavy metal world,
825
00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:23,542
visual representation
was as important as musical,
826
00:37:23,609 --> 00:37:28,347
so bands like Iron Maiden,
Kiss, Twisted Sister and so on,
827
00:37:28,414 --> 00:37:33,051
we were concerned about
the visual as well as the audio,
828
00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:34,753
and that was just perfect
829
00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:37,923
for a visual audio medium
like MTV.
830
00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:42,260
What do you do with your life?
831
00:37:42,328 --> 00:37:43,829
♪ I wanna rock! ♪
832
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:45,096
♪ Rock! ♪
833
00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:48,166
♪ I wanna rock! ♪
834
00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:49,535
♪ Rock! ♪
835
00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:53,339
- ♪ I want to rock ♪
- ♪ Rock! ♪
836
00:37:53,405 --> 00:37:55,040
[screaming]
837
00:37:56,074 --> 00:37:57,175
♪ I wanna rock ♪
838
00:37:57,242 --> 00:37:58,944
♪ Rock! ♪
839
00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:00,546
[Dee]
When they first started out,
840
00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:02,881
MTV needed heavy metal.
841
00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:04,950
And they really helped
take heavy metal,
842
00:38:05,016 --> 00:38:06,552
re-birth heavy metal
843
00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,186
and take it
to a whole 'nother level.
844
00:38:08,454 --> 00:38:10,589
Hold on to your jams,
because for the next two hours,
845
00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:12,057
you're going to see all out,
846
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:15,561
no-nonsense, wall-to-wall metal.
847
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:19,565
Back here on Heavy Metal Mania
with my guest, Jon Bon Jovi.
848
00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:22,734
[Dee] I hosted a show
called Heavy Metal Mania.
849
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:25,070
After a year and a half,
I asked to be paid.
850
00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:26,438
MTV said,
851
00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:29,040
"Dee, we don't pay money.
852
00:38:29,107 --> 00:38:30,976
This is great for you.
This is promotion."
853
00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:33,645
I was like, "You gotta
be fucking kidding me.
854
00:38:33,712 --> 00:38:35,647
I really don't need
Heavy Metal Mania
855
00:38:35,714 --> 00:38:37,383
to give me exposure.
856
00:38:37,449 --> 00:38:38,884
I need money."
857
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:40,986
MTV's Heavy Metal Mania.
858
00:38:41,052 --> 00:38:43,154
[Dee]
Eventually, they did pay me.
859
00:38:43,221 --> 00:38:44,490
[rock music playing]
860
00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:48,994
After I left, Heavy Metal Mania
861
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:51,730
became Headbanger's Ball.
862
00:38:51,797 --> 00:38:54,733
Riki Rachtman here, welcome
to the Headbanger's Ball.
863
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,668
[Riki]
For many years,
864
00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:58,804
well, five that I remember,
865
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:00,739
we had the Headbanger's Ball
on MTV.
866
00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:02,974
We traveled
far across the globe to...
867
00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,142
...to Rio de Janeiro...
868
00:39:04,209 --> 00:39:05,777
- New Orleans...
- Japan...
869
00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:08,947
We've got Metal Church,
Dangerous Toys,
870
00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,450
Motorhead, Judas Priest
and Alice Cooper.
871
00:39:11,517 --> 00:39:16,287
[Riki] Headbanger's Ball
broke so many bands.
872
00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:18,156
And here we have Jack Russell
from Great White.
873
00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:20,792
[Riki] And all of a sudden,
we're in your home.
874
00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,360
We're bringing
these people to your home.
875
00:39:22,428 --> 00:39:23,629
This is Alice Cooper,
876
00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,531
and this is Joe Satriani.
877
00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:29,334
If you live in this small town,
it was the way
878
00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:31,537
that people found out
about these bands.
879
00:39:31,603 --> 00:39:32,838
Remember to keep
one foot in the gutter,
880
00:39:32,904 --> 00:39:34,773
one fist in the gold.
See ya.
881
00:39:43,415 --> 00:39:45,551
[Vicky] I was pretty
involved with Motley Crue
882
00:39:45,617 --> 00:39:47,486
in trying to help them
get a record deal.
883
00:39:47,553 --> 00:39:49,387
I took a few meetings.
884
00:39:49,455 --> 00:39:52,023
I didn't really know
that many A & R people yet,
885
00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:54,560
but I, like,
played it for John Kolodner
886
00:39:54,626 --> 00:39:57,529
with Geffen Records
and a few others,
887
00:39:57,596 --> 00:40:00,666
but then
they got new management,
888
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:04,335
and all of a sudden
I was kind of out of a job.
889
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,905
[laughs]
They still owe me $3,000.
890
00:40:06,972 --> 00:40:09,040
You know, $3,000 in interest
891
00:40:09,107 --> 00:40:11,409
has got to be a lot of money
at this point, right?
892
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,281
♪ Plug me in,
I'm alive tonight ♪
893
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,550
[Katherine] Motley Crue was
one of the first hair bands.
894
00:40:18,617 --> 00:40:21,487
Motley were very lucky or smart
895
00:40:21,553 --> 00:40:23,922
in that they got
both men and women,
896
00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:25,090
in the early days.
897
00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:27,325
♪ 'Cause I'm alive! ♪
898
00:40:27,392 --> 00:40:29,427
♪ Live wire ♪
899
00:40:29,495 --> 00:40:33,665
This was the first type of metal
that appealed to women.
900
00:40:33,732 --> 00:40:36,167
[rock ballad playing]
901
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:38,069
[Lonn] They were
aesthetically forbidden,
902
00:40:38,136 --> 00:40:41,272
visually forbidden,
sonically forbidden.
903
00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:43,241
They were just bad boys,
904
00:40:43,308 --> 00:40:45,877
but they had hooks
905
00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:49,515
and they looked so fucking cool.
906
00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:53,118
[Katherine]
It was so exciting and new
907
00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:55,587
and cool and unpredictable.
908
00:40:55,654 --> 00:40:56,722
People were just thrilled.
909
00:40:58,323 --> 00:40:59,791
[Lonn]
"The local glam metal movement
910
00:40:59,858 --> 00:41:02,193
was ignited
by Motley Crue in '82
911
00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:04,863
with their lecherous landmark
debut, 'Too Fast for Love',
912
00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:08,399
and taken to further
cacophonous extremes in '83
913
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:10,235
with Dokken's
'Breaking the Chains'."
914
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,238
♪ Breaking the chains
around you ♪
915
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,040
♪ Nobody else can bind you... ♪
916
00:41:15,106 --> 00:41:16,141
[Lonn]
"The following year brought
917
00:41:16,207 --> 00:41:17,909
Motley running mates Ratt
918
00:41:18,043 --> 00:41:20,278
into the fray with
their "Out of the Cellar" LP."
919
00:41:20,345 --> 00:41:22,480
♪ Round and round ♪
920
00:41:22,548 --> 00:41:26,484
♪ With love, we'll find a way,
just give it time ♪
921
00:41:26,552 --> 00:41:28,754
[Lonn] "The Sunset Strip
had become the vortex
922
00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:30,722
of volume and decadence,
923
00:41:30,789 --> 00:41:34,025
for not just Los Angeles,
but the entire rocking planet."
924
00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:36,662
Thank you.
925
00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:37,829
[laughs]
926
00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:41,967
♪ I'm live in Texas! ♪
927
00:41:42,033 --> 00:41:43,669
♪ Texas! ♪
928
00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:46,404
I was just like, "Wow!
If you grow your hair long...
929
00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:50,742
♪ No way, no way to love ♪
930
00:41:50,809 --> 00:41:53,511
...you can be on MTV
and be rich." [laughs]
931
00:41:53,579 --> 00:41:55,513
♪ Don't you change that song ♪
932
00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:58,850
♪ I miss my baby ♪
933
00:41:58,917 --> 00:42:01,587
Everything in Hollywood
was just kicking ass.
934
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,523
[Taime] That big scene
was like a magnet
935
00:42:05,591 --> 00:42:07,292
for people across the country
to come here.
936
00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:11,529
♪ We got your number
off the bathroom wall ♪♪
937
00:42:11,597 --> 00:42:14,332
[Taime] We were all kids
from different areas,
938
00:42:14,399 --> 00:42:16,802
trying to become rock stars,
to get record deals.
939
00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:19,370
That was like,
"Got to get a record deal."
940
00:42:19,437 --> 00:42:21,607
The odds
of getting a record deal
941
00:42:21,673 --> 00:42:24,643
were actually,
at that time, not bad.
942
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:26,477
They were probably
like one in ten.
943
00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:30,448
The odds of having a hit
944
00:42:30,515 --> 00:42:31,883
were maybe one in a hundred.
945
00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:33,451
The odds of making it,
946
00:42:33,518 --> 00:42:35,186
were maybe one in a million.
947
00:42:35,253 --> 00:42:36,822
[light rock ballad playing]
948
00:42:39,224 --> 00:42:40,525
[Janet] Getting signed,
949
00:42:40,592 --> 00:42:44,195
we knew that was a huge step.
950
00:42:44,262 --> 00:42:46,965
But then, when it really
happens, it's kind of like,
951
00:42:47,032 --> 00:42:49,067
"Well, what does
this actually mean?"
952
00:42:49,134 --> 00:42:51,803
Got a record deal, freaking out.
953
00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:53,571
Put the record out.
954
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,240
Nothing.
955
00:42:55,306 --> 00:42:56,975
Nothing happened.
956
00:42:57,042 --> 00:42:59,210
You pictured champagne
being opened
957
00:42:59,277 --> 00:43:02,413
and this atmosphere
of celebration
958
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,983
for your lifelong dream,
959
00:43:05,050 --> 00:43:06,852
and it was not that.
960
00:43:06,918 --> 00:43:09,020
In reality, it's only the start
961
00:43:09,087 --> 00:43:12,290
of the hell that you have
to go through from there.
962
00:43:13,825 --> 00:43:14,860
Ha!
963
00:43:18,196 --> 00:43:21,700
♪ Now you tell me
there's a change in plans ♪
964
00:43:21,767 --> 00:43:24,770
♪ And our castles
were just made of sand ♪
965
00:43:24,836 --> 00:43:27,906
♪ I try to act
like I understand ♪
966
00:43:27,973 --> 00:43:31,109
♪ But I don't at all ♪
967
00:43:31,176 --> 00:43:34,245
♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪
968
00:43:34,312 --> 00:43:37,382
♪ Whatever happened
to fun? ♪
969
00:43:37,448 --> 00:43:40,752
♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪
970
00:43:40,819 --> 00:43:44,690
♪ Whatever happened
to fun? ♪
70937
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