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You got it? Yeah. Now let's part.
Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Ready?
You ready? Two hands.
I'm in.
Yeah,
okay.
So flexible.
Okay, one more.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was great.
Good work.
They need a
couple more times.
It's for practice, but good job.
Thank you.
Because you know it's a brave move.
Only life on this earth.
And I don't think I can help you.
I don't think I can help you.
you
Please remind me why you got me this bike. What?
This bike. Why?
Core strength.
Spine health. Remember the doctor said you were supposed to fold it.
Why are you folding me? Fold.
This thing is fucking impossible to fold. You know how hard this is to fold?
It's supposed to be more convenient than a normal bike. It's way less convenient
than a normal bike. Also, the wheels, they're so little. It's like I've got to
pedal four times to get one normal wheel rotation out of it.
Maybe.
Where's Maggie? Yo, Maggie!
No, she's not here.
Where is she? She's, uh, at a sleepover.
Where? At Sadie's.
Nothing's happening at a sleepover with Sadie. Oh,
God. Sadie is so strange, isn't she?
I hope it's good that she's hanging around with Sadie.
I called ahead. Sadie's mother is single.
There are no men or weapons in the home.
You called Sadie's mother to ask if she was single?
Yeah. Of course.
Of course.
Holy shit.
My God, look at all this cheese. No, no, no, no, no, no. Leave it, leave it,
leave it, leave it. Not yet, not yet, not, not yet. What is all this? What is
that? What is that smell?
I'm making a souffle.
You're making a souffle? I mean, 200 pounds of cheese? Is there, like, an
Are we expecting people?
Our neighbors.
Our upstairs neighbors. I told you yesterday, remember?
I've mentioned that for some insane reason you want to invite them over. You
sure didn't tell me they were coming over tonight. What were you asking
I told you yesterday.
Well, telling me and asking you are actually two very different things. And
I'm being honest, I don't even think you told me. I'm not going to listen to
anything that I say anyway. Oh, fuck. Did you forget the wine?
The wine?
I texted you. I texted you about wine. We don't have any wine.
Can you please call the neighbors and tell them to come another time?
No. No.
It's too late. They're coming in ten minutes.
They're coming in ten?
fucking mid why didn't you tell me any of this because we've been talking about
them coming for like six months okay and they've been so nice about all our
noise from the renovation our noise did you just say they've been nice about our
noise that's nuts you're making us do plays for these people now what is
happening here she said she wanted to see it she just wants to see it now that
it's done it seems very nice they're very very you know they seem cool and
she has like presence and she's she's so she's so pretty
Yeah, she's fucked, but he is a fucking weirdo, okay? Every time I'm in the
elevator with him, it's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know
I mean?
Exactly. You need questions, and you want me to ask you questions with the
contact and off the dark. Yeah, that's called a conversation.
What is this?
What? That's a rug.
Ew.
Oh, my God.
You are so...
Can we please do a reset?
A what?
Can you leave and come back in again? This is for a podcast. Yes, it is. Does
matter? You physically want me to leave the apartment and come back in? Yes,
please. No, it's fucking silly. Joe, I'm asking you to just do that for me.
Would that be okay? Fine. I will do that for you, okay?
Great. Here we go. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. This will fix everything.
I don't like how they can see right into our apartment, you know?
I can't have any of this cheese. Please don't eat the cheese, Joe. I worked so
hard on that. You just wait, and then they'll come, and you'll eat cheese, and
then you can go upstairs and smoke weed. I'll smoke weed in here if you let me.
No, I won't, because it gets stuck in the walls.
You know what?
I actually think it's really cool that they're coming over tonight.
Why?
Because.
We can finally talk to them about the millies.
No, Joe, we need a deal.
Let's feel that we weren't gonna say anything.
Well, you know what? I changed my mind.
What they do in the privacy of every night.
How is that none of our business? How is that none of our fucking business?
Are you aware of how difficult that is for her?
What is she, your role model now?
Yeah, she's definitely my role model. Your to -come role model?
Yeah. Can we please just take this room already?
Well, we haven't picked a color, Joe, so no.
Same color, pick a color, who cares?
Not.
We can
finally
get to the bottom of who we are.
Either way,
bring it up, we'll laugh about it, and I'll tell them to not get the fuck off!
It's like you want everyone to feel uncomfortable.
I'm the one who's uncomfortable?
If our neighbors were waking us up every night at 4 in the morning by blasting
music and I said something about it to them, wouldn't that be completely
reasonable? It's the exact same thing, but it's even more justified than a
Don't say anything!
Just not tonight, please!
Is this also new?
Yes.
Well, it's nice. It looks really good on you.
Well, you can tell me that once in a while.
I can't believe you forgot the wine.
I didn't forget the wine. I'm on this collapsible... bike like a fucking
and I can't answer text messages while I'm on it. Do we have anything nice to
drink? Well, if there's nothing to drink, we probably call them and tell
not to go over, right?
Look, this is weird.
New Year's, we're popping champagne with these people.
Fine, look, we'll pre -pop it so by the time they get here, it'll be, you know,
fizzed out and it'll be like a sparkling wine. Can't you see this is obviously
not a good time to have company?
Yeah. What?
Was that an ultimatum? Yeah, the choice is yours.
I'm sorry.
You're going to bring up the fucking?
Yeah.
Mm, mm -hmm.
Do you understand how hard it is for a woman to come that hard? Yes, I do,
because you've raised me a hundred times in the last three minutes. I don't
think... I don't think you get it. I don't think you really understand how
difficult it is.
And if we say something, do you know what's going to happen?
Every time they fuck and she comes, they're going to see our dumb faces.
That's not fair.
I could not care less about anything in the world than this woman's fucking
orgasm. I just wanted to have a nice night. I just wanted to have a nice,
fucking night, and you all let me. These people are disrespecting us. They know
we can hear them. Can you not see that?
What are you talking about? You sound like your father. No, that is...
They know we can hear them. They get off on it. They're fucking with us. They're
perverts. They're not thinking about us. Well, maybe that's the problem. Maybe
they should be thinking about us.
You know what? We're not fucking canceling. Do you know why?
We don't have friends.
We have to be friends with them? Are you kidding?
It's not my fault we don't have a girlfriend.
I would love to have...
Happy you're here.
Bye.
Ah, two.
Angela, hi. Me too.
Yes. Joe, you remember Peanut Hawk?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you sure we are not interrupting?
No. Good for you.
Yes, great for us. Yeah, we love, yep.
it took you a while to come to the door and it sounded like you were arguing no
filter no i just want to be honest we were we were we were at the door before
rang and we could hear you were fighting oh we were talking we were um we were
fighting a contentious environment in here so i understand if that's repellent
to you no hard feelings you know what i mean completely understand you know we
love a contentious environment
We love it.
Really, it's fun.
You got the jackpot then, my friend.
You're in for a treat.
Okay? Yeah, great.
Do we have to take our shoes off? Oh, God, no, no, no.
No, I don't.
Yeah, okay, great.
Hey, Joe.
Yeah, thank you. Joe, be honest. Do you want us to take them off?
I don't give a fuck if you take your shoes off, personally.
Hawk, yeah.
Like a bird.
Yep, like a bird.
Cool.
We've been dying to see your apartment.
Oh. Oh, God. I'm so sorry. We wanted to invite you. It wasn't quite ready
before. It wasn't quite ready because of me.
You mentioned it in the elevator, but then you never called.
We, uh... I mean, we wondered if we did something wrong. No, God, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, I'm sorry about that. No.
What do you think?
It's huge.
Oh, much bigger than that. And you have such a nice flow.
Is that the money?
Yes.
No,
is it? No.
You really
got some beautiful pieces.
I know what I like, but it's actually not all expensive.
Some of it. Most of it's not.
Yeah, I'm not everything, but not everything.
I guess what I meant to say is you can tell that it's been done with a lot of
care, and you have a really great eye.
That's true.
I can feel it. I feel you put so much love.
I did that. Thank you. Yeah. I love it. I do love it. I really care.
I do. Thank you for saying that. I see it.
i care i do care a lot i'm getting emotional
i don't know why but i thank you thank you energy
is what i was
going for that's what i wanted energy is great we talked a lot about how to
capture energy as though that was a real thing we could do
Kinetic, chemical, potential, nuclear, sexual.
You cannot really create it or destroy it, but you can find ways to shape it.
Beautiful.
You shaped it really beautifully here. I love the shape.
Thank you.
Too existential for you, Joe?
No, hey, not existential enough for me. Let's get deep.
What is life?
Oh, that is my Spanish man.
No. Oh, my God. Flan. Oh, how elegant.
Fair warning.
Once you try Peanuts Flan, there's no going back.
You'll be at our door late at night like a junkie under the bridge, and we need
a score like heroin.
You might want to put it in the fridge. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. You want to
refrigerate it. Is it flan or flan?
Flan. Flan.
I thought it was flan.
I'm so sorry. I haven't, I literally haven't offered you anything
great.
We have a beautiful, powerful, you know, um,
um, or maybe you prefer wine. Wine is better.
Wine. Wine.
Wine. Do we have wine?
We do.
we have we've been waiting for the perfect moment yeah yeah yeah yeah
great finally there it is
1982. yeah you want to save that for another time oh my god no one time this
is it hitting me yeah that's not like the president all right you want to open
it
Sorry, we don't have people over very often.
I knew I'd get there.
Yeah, thank you so much. Yes.
Salud. Sure, thank you, uncle.
He's dead, so maybe next time.
Oh,
how is your daughter?
Maggie. She's so cool. She is cool, yeah.
I love her style. I know, right? She's awesome.
Yeah, she's amazing. I'm really going to miss her.
Where is she going?
I don't know, but I'm going to answer, and I'm just going to be alone.
Where am I going?
I'm just saying it's going to be different.
Do you know something? No, I don't know.
It won't be the same.
It's not going to be the same. I'm sorry.
I feel like I'm becoming emotional again.
I'm sorry for what?
It would be crazy if we didn't play.
You know, it's the best way to read it.
Oh,
a lot of nothing. That's what I do.
There's nothing in the world better than being a mom.
Ever. But not everyone, because that isn't your
path. No. I mean, we talk about it. We think about it. Right.
Hasn't been that bright already.
Yeah. I don't know. Maybe.
Maybe. That's great.
She probably decides sooner than later.
What? Well, I don't know.
What?
You don't just do that.
Age.
Who's age?
I don't know.
Picasso had a baby name. It's 90s. It's more. It's more of a... stuff.
Hmm. Exciting.
So, you know.
Woman, I didn't want to talk.
Actually, I have something.
Do you know what time she marched in? I don't know if you saw it.
It's just something, a gesture to remind you of home.
It's just a little, um, come on.
Oh, that is so sweet, and I love how you take it and you say it again.
Come on. Oh, my God.
What do you do? I cannot. I don't eat meat.
Huh?
No, he does.
I do. Yeah, whole turtle.
Cheese? We have so much cheese. I mean, no. For me, no cheese. Oh, you don't eat
cheese. No.
For me,
also no. No gluten, no milk, no meat, no sugar.
We got all the meat.
Really failed on the meat then, huh?
Meat fail, failed on the meat. I will eat peanut cheese.
All your beautiful me will get eaten. I'm sorry.
It's great.
Thank you. Is there a bathroom like this? Yeah.
Thank you. It's lovely.
Great. What do you want to eat? Whatever you want. I can get it. I can order it.
I can get here so fast.
Five minutes, six months, six months on a bike. Anything.
Anything you like.
What do you like?
I don't want anything.
Yeah, it's good.
But I don't understand how you put all of this together so quickly.
We only planned this morning because it's like magic.
Really?
I think you guys guessed yesterday morning.
This morning.
Not yesterday.
Last morning.
This morning. Last morning.
That's not experience.
Of course.
Not today.
Today. You know how they. They kind of blur the words. Yeah. This morning.
You know.
Are you cold? Mm -hmm. What are you doing?
What are you doing?
Am I okay?
I don't know. Are you joking?
Are you joking? No, I'm... I have a
little... I have a little... It happens at all times.
It could be the beginning of perimenopause.
What?
Perimenopause?
challenging horrible time oh more than 10 years oh my god great makes me so
angry how so many people still today talk about hot flashes as the only
i know i mean this is a serious huge neuroendocrine change that affects
everything memory cardiovascular health metabolism and we're expected just to
deal with it just deal with depression, anxiety, brain fog, insomnia.
Bootswings? Is that one of them?
Yeah, yeah. Resentment toward your spouse, overspending on home goods and
cheeses, abundance of charcuterie.
I knew you were going to make a joke about it. I am. I'm making a joke about
Let me explain it to you in a different way. Okay.
What if your testicles crippled up and died?
And your empty ball sack flopped around in the breeze for 30 years
or so. How would you like that?
I wouldn't like that.
You will. No. So don't joke about it. Okay. Copy that. I won't. I get it. I'm
sorry.
Are you a doctor or something like that?
A psychotherapist?
Yeah.
I'm a psychologist.
Sexologist. And I also care about women.
I care about women.
That's going to be bad.
Do you play the piano?
No, I don't play the piano, actually.
Nope.
Joe's in a band.
Oh, really?
We know you, and we just don't know.
We know you.
No, definitely not. Yes, I'm positive, yeah.
Nice.
Fiancelot? Yeah, Fiancelot.
They had a song, One Girl. It was very big. One Girl, yeah. It was really big
2008. Yeah, for one week.
In 2008. 2008, yeah.
What do you think, girl?
I was. I was. Still is.
Technically still am.
Yeah. I was, but...
That's kind of weird. No, it's like pop, punk, indie.
It's like, it's not a, it's a dead job. Can I listen to it? No.
But I mean, you know, can we find it on Spotify? No.
Do you ever play live? Come to you?
Yeah, he kind of missed that window by a few decades, unfortunately.
He actually teaches music now. Yeah.
Where? East Bay.
Like, Berkeley?
No.
He's a great musician, but the small kids are really cool.
Your music, what's that?
That's really cool.
Yeah, it's fine.
I'm sorry, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
I'm sorry.
Come on.
What is going on here?
It's rough.
Where'd you get it? He is obsessed with carpets. Oh, so am I. I love carpets.
Joe, not so much. Not so much. More into credenzas, ounces, things like that.
Oh.
Oh, shit. I think it's a hurry.
No.
And where did you get this? I got it. A flea market?
No, you didn't. I did.
No, you didn't. I just like the color. You did? Well, you found a Van Gogh in a
garage sale.
I did.
But it's a rug.
No, it's not. It's a reed. A reed? Rug.
Oh.
You didn't pay a fortune for this. I did not. You swear. It's a rug. Wow. You
have a gift. I mean, that's like, wow.
I want to take off my clothes and the fly I'm making on it. John!
When are you going?
It's really late.
Good. Incredible.
good energy wow really good energy yeah he did our entire
apartment it's so beautiful you have to come over and we really mean it unlike
you jim your design or something what oh thank you no no he's a fireman
firefighter you're a firefighter you're not a player you weren't a firefighter
yeah he was fire captain you're a fire captain captain hawk captain hawk oh my
god you're not captain hawk that's bullshit why you don't seem like a
firefighter they're brawnier they have mustaches they're brawnier
more fuerte more fuerte he's pretty fuerte
i don't know if he's fireman fuerte more fuerte in the beginning but i was you
know I got to my pension. I just decided I'd had enough and kind of gave up my
hose for the command job. And then I retired and started pursuing my other
interests and new adventures.
Now he's saying roofing. Oh, wow. The adventure of roofing. No, sorry.
Rolfing. Rolfing.
That's what I said.
Rolfing. Rolfing. Say it again.
No. Say it again.
No.
You're a masseuse now.
That's cool.
Going to work on the Four Seasons?
No, no.
Rolfing's a much deeper modality.
It's challenging for both parties, really. But, yeah, it's been healing.
I'm almost certified. You want to jump on my table, Joe?
Never in a million years.
I really love you, Joe.
What do you love about me, Hawk?
I like how honest you are about what you're feeling.
Well, in the pursuit of honesty.
Who loved her?
Would you like to see more? There's so much more. Great.
Yeah, I'm actually going to smoke a joint. I've seen the place.
No.
Can I come with you?
Really? Yeah, can I?
Sure, totally.
I thought I'd just, you know, maybe go to my office and smoke in there, right?
That's cool, right? Unless you have a problem with that. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Cool. Yeah.
Cool. Cool, right? Yeah. Cool.
Yeah.
Do you want to open a window?
Do you know?
Yeah, sure. Great.
What do you got?
Other than this?
you spend a lot of time here i do you can tell yeah it's
a little messy i'm usually usually alone in here
there you go
there you go chaos
good great it means you're focused on more important things oh you know that's
how i like to think of it i'm sure i don't know what to do with that i
actually did all of this crowding myself which i love i i find it
meditative joe thinks i'm insane and then the floor i mean i'm sure this is
something you might have you know picked up no original ceramic penny tile wow
Anyway, that was sort of similar to what was there before, but that was kind of
what I was going for with the whole theme was renovation without change,
think needed to keep it original but with a new surface.
Admittedly, I know a lot less about tile than I've learned about rugs and a lot
of the bathrooms that I've seen.
have been on fire so my oh no my relationship with them was fleeting but
just said this was an immaculately preserved vintage bathroom
wow i mean that's what i was going for you fooled me wow oh
i'm out facebook marketplace come on
i don't want more because of them if i have more than one heat i i started
counting objects And I can't stop and imagine what I would be.
I've never heard of it.
We'd lose you for the rest of your life.
Exactly.
What is this?
It's for a xylophone.
Exactly. You figure it out.
It's intuitive. Ultimately, there's only one of those, so you're okay.
This is actually, um...
this is where the two apartments were were combined and you can just see that
because it's a little bit thicker there but that's where they um where there
used to be a separation a wall yeah that was what what they call a wall like the
technical term is we we literally are just that much so oh right because you
guys are yeah yeah huh well this so this is maggie's room and i actually did
i've been on the fence like it's probably a little old for now i'm
gonna have to change it but that's good yeah yeah it's it's happening oh
oh oh god that's so good oh is that like
larry fulton oh no no no no that that is me
wow do you work as a photographer
No, I went to art school like a million years ago, and I got a degree I did
literally nothing with, and that is from then.
I mean, I think, you know, creativity is all over in this place. It really
counts.
Thank you.
What about this?
Oh, no, because that's the bedroom.
What's going on in here? Yeah.
No, I know. I didn't.
It's not part of the tour.
a pretty important room yeah yeah yes he's a fireman really a fireman yeah how
long have you been with him uh one year a little less than one year one year
that's it oh well what about longer i was married
before really yeah interesting how did you meet the fireman
he was my patient
right here on this bed no no no different bed oh good yeah like a
little bit he hates people knowing this
No shame in that. Like, nobody in America can afford anything. Yeah, but
really... It's a big... It's not a gift. I mean... Well,
that's what I think. Make it positive, you know? Like, just be grateful and
lean into it. Make it your own, you know? Yeah. So much pleasure in that.
Yeah.
I didn't. That relationship was over when I met him.
I think you really just have to listen to what
is your heart. And I'm pulling you toward what vision of yourself.
You know, I mean, you see yourself walking on a cold beach alone with the
in your face and the clarity of that.
Or sitting on a southern porch in the heat, holding hands and getting old.
Or sitting in a Copenhagen cafe with a stranger.
I'd go with Copenhagen.
I'd go that way.
For some reason, I knew that you would feel that. It seems so clear now that
we're here looking at it.
And you're so right. It was right there the whole time. God, thank you. You
didn't mean it. I did, though. I did. I needed you.
No, you didn't understand. It's been months of this. I've been tortured.
I'm going to tell you what he already knew.
Yeah.
He thinks they all look the same.
If he colors one.
There's worse birds.
There's no doubt at the end of the day.
Of all the birds, of all the birds, there's a pretty cool one.
What is your name?
I'm Richard.
No, I... Please, this is not torture. I cannot laugh at his name. No, I'm sorry.
Not there.
It's my boyfriend, Tyler Kim.
He's just a tank.
And I went back in and the dog was ready. It would be.
Nothing around here.
Oh,
God. Oh, no.
Yeah, so I took the long smoke and I burned my lungs and my throat.
Oh, no.
No. And it was time to quit.
No. Yeah.
Yeah. But you know what?
Life's been...
Yeah, yeah.
They are beautiful.
They are impressive.
Yeah, appreciate it. I have this one.
Sorry,
I wanted to take your time.
What is that?
It's two birds.
Pina and Hawk. Pina and Hawk. Look at that.
That's nice.
I like that.
So, when did you get them? When you were in that band?
I did, yeah.
Pretty old. A long time ago.
Maybe 20 years ago, maybe.
You should replace this.
It's really dangerous.
This whole single pane stuff.
It'll shatter with even a little bit of heat.
There's no risk of that.
It's a very cold apartment. There's not a lot of heat.
You never know.
Tequila. Tequila, yeah. Tequila.
Can you do something for me?
Probably.
I should check on Angela, make sure she didn't forget how to breathe, you know
what I mean?
They won't talk whatsoever in the elevator.
I bet they do.
I bet they do. I'm sorry.
Joe, put on some music.
Yeah, I'm putting it on. Yeah, what kind of music you two are?
What is that, Ed?
That's not good.
You don't know any jazz at all?
Jazz, I really want to learn jazz. Where can I start?
Miles Davis, Don Coltrane.
Miles with the cheeks, they go out. I feel like at this point in your life,
harder to not know who you are.
Oh, hey.
Literally, look what I just pulled.
No, no, no. Oh, you have to play. Play. Can we play? Let's play. One girl. Play
a play. Come on, this is your love story right here.
No, no, no, no. Just this one here. Don't put it on. Come on. Don't put it
Don't put it on. Just give it a taste. Don't put it on. We've got the artist
we've got the girl.
No.
Sorry.
You know what?
We actually shouldn't listen to music right now because there's something I've
been wanting to talk to you guys about. Oh, my God. You have your present.
Wow. Isn't that good?
Oh, my God. It's incredible. I can't feel it.
No, it's unbelievable.
It's so good.
It's like milk in your mouth. Yeah, it's so delicious.
Anyway, what I was about to say... No, my God, it doesn't work.
The second bite is when it really just settles in, just slides down. Look,
anyway... Oh, God, it's got sauce. It's got sauce in it. I need to talk to you
about it.
Should we do shots? I think we should have a toast.
Sure. Yeah, I think shots for everybody.
Thank you.
Yeah, anyway, the noise has been a thing that I think we've all been wanting to
talk about. And we want to apologize for it, because it's been loud, and it took
longer. It took longer than we thought, and you guys have been so kind, and we
just wanted to say thank you and sorry.
I mean, look, we're all neighbors, and we really... Salud,
and gracias.
We're just so happy that you invited us, and grateful.
And actually, we also have something we wanted to talk to you about.
You also want to talk to us? That's a funny coincidence. We both have things
want to say to each other. No, it's nothing bad. Nothing bad. I think
something's on Joe's mind.
Why don't you want to go first? No, no, no.
You guys have something.
No,
you first.
You are the guest.
And you should go first. You guys go, and then I'll go right now.
All right, well, um, we wanted to apologize.
Yes? To us?
Yeah.
Yeah, for what?
We feel we may have bothered you. Bothered us? In more than one occasion,
actually. What? When?
Um, at night, usually, and specifically, and sometimes late in the night.
What?
When we had sex.
You?
We know we've been too loud and
we know it was intrusive and we're sorry and we're gonna be more conscientious
oh my god no you guys don't have that no we have not heard anything honestly we
haven't heard anything what right joe we haven't heard anything right
no
we actually haven't heard anything so no need to apologize i i sleep like a log
you know
Joe. What?
Don't lie.
I'm not lying. Joe, you've been telling the truth all night. I love when you
tell the truth.
I love it.
Great. Tell the truth. Tell the truth?
You're not telling the truth.
Joe. What?
We know. It doesn't bother me. It doesn't. Look, I can burst your bubble.
your sex isn't as explosive as you think it is.
Joe, we know you knocked on our door the other night.
Joe. You were pounding on our door.
No, it isn't.
We told you. We have a ring camera.
No, you don't. It's hidden. Where?
In our media.
What's a media?
They don't make that. It's a ring.
That's one thing.
When did that come around?
Shuin.
Shuin, do you want to see it? I don't need to see it. We threw the app to our
phone and...
You know, it flags it if it's in regression, and so it spooks us at
look, there, there he comes.
Maybe it's grainy footage and you think it's me, but it's not me, okay?
It looks like me, but it's not.
Sorry, Joe.
He almost walked away, but I cannot believe it.
You were so polite that you...
Stop to even listen. What are you doing?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Just turn it off. Turn it. Look, okay. You know what? Yes. Yes.
I banged on your door because you people are fucking like monsters over there.
What are you doing?
Are you trying to prove?
Are you trying to win a contest or something? It's incredibly
What are you doing?
My daughter can hear it. Did you know that? She can hear it. And I can tell
moving furniture up there. And she knows it's not true. She's on to me. We spend
so much time and energy talking about your fucking orgasms.
You talk about my orgasms? Yes, but not in the bad thing. They're not bad.
They're great. I love them.
You love my orgasms?
I do.
I love them. She really does. I do. I love them. They're amazing.
She especially likes the growl. Are you the growl, Dina? Because she loves the
growl. No, no. No, penis is not a growl.
Oh, really?
You're the growl?
No.
It's Vanessa.
Vanessa is the growler.
Vanessa?
Vanessa is... Wait, who is Vanessa?
A friend.
Oh, yeah. Guy's a pretty big guy.
And he does breathe heavily. That could be what you're calling animalistic
noises. Kai.
Kai. Who's Kai?
I'm another friend. Oh, Kai's another friend.
Vanessa and Kai. Vanessa lives in Nevada City with Kai. Are you talking with us
right now?
Are you whispering to each other?
No, we know you are upset, and you have every right to be. We've had...
A few parties. Things have gotten a little more crazy.
Out of hand.
Parties. Like cocktail parties.
Or sex parties.
Sex parties. Oh.
Sex parties.
Right. That's like a... Parties where people... That's sex.
Sex. Sex.
I think that's a common language.
Yeah. Definitely.
Yeah. Honestly,
I can't think of another one.
And we approach.
No. What? No. You don't have to.
That's not, no, we're not judging.
That's, you don't, so where's that J?
That J?
The J you were, did you, did you leave that in there? The J, I, it is in my
room. You want me to, okay, I'll help you. Yeah, why don't you call me to, to
get the, to get the J, yeah.
Okay.
I sat the parties up there, I was right, that wasn't normal sex.
Hello.
We good?
Yes!
Yeah, the sex party. Really? Paint a picture. Disclose what you will.
They started recently.
Oh, it's a recent development.
The noise uptick probably came because once we started bringing people in, our
bedroom was too small, so we moved into the living room. Overflow.
I got it. That's why the sound kind of reverberates through the apartment.
furniture okay
wait
more so how how does it work like how do you get invited or do you invite people
and are there maybe there's no rules are there parameters and can can anyone do
anything to anyone for starters you've got to have content oh yeah right now
and the connection has to be about joy about expansion it can never be about
anger and patience because you know some people they gotta
find their own entry point entry point yeah yeah they take it back yeah
what's the water looks like i've always been very curious
For me, the pleasure I get from being with a woman is your friend.
Yeah.
Me too.
Hi,
I'm... Valerie.
Vanessa. Vanessa.
Were you guys friends or did you meet on an app? We're pretty negative on the
app. Really? Interesting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's impersonal. Yeah. We like to meet in person.
Like, hi to hi.
like organic real connection no and there are conventions oh yes yes that's
because you do you need rules you need you need some boundaries no no i mean
there are actual conventions oh wow yes conventions are great
they also offer you a menu oh a menu a menu that's good i
like it's organized i like it so when you engage with someone you already know
what they want they have already sent their preferences in that box it's like
below the preference yeah it's not speaking our language yeah we get
it now i think maybe the best thing about group sex is it forces
Total clarity of communication.
Not the best thing I wouldn't imagine.
Probably better, yeah.
What happens if no one picks you?
Oh, yeah.
Like Kim Clash, you get chosen last year. You're going on the corner or
something. No.
You would be chosen.
Yeah.
How does that work? No one gets excluded.
Obviously,
anyone's free to watch.
I don't want to say this.
Jealousy. You don't get jealous? There's no jealousy. I think jealousy is a
natural animalistic instinct, but you have to replace it. We practice
compersion. Compersion. Compersion.
Compersion.
Compersion is all about finding joy in the joy of others.
Well, that would be... Harder after that. And for me, there's nothing
than watching my partner in the hands of another.
Wow.
Beautiful.
Oh, God.
That's nice.
Super nice.
Wow. So healthy.
Very. Yes, I can't help you just seeing it.
You know, I love that it's you and your friends. It's like the four of you get
together. Four is such a good number.
Yes. Wow.
Sometimes. No more than six.
Six. Six people? Six is a lot. That's why it's so loud up there.
So, figure last weekend. That doesn't count because it was a special occasion.
It was Vanessa's birthday.
Wow. Well, a birthday's a birthday. Yeah, gotta celebrate the good things in
life, I guess, right? Yeah, and she wanted to have ten people, so. Ten
Are you fucking kidding? Ten. Holy shit.
Oh, my God.
Ten? We rented a house in Bolivia.
Really nice. Very lovely, yeah.
Yeah, we were so energized.
you don't feel superhuman hi it wasn't for me the best it was the best
experience that we've had it really was god that sounds to be great yeah
she's just like i'm imagining just like a like a ball of youthful energy she's
just like young no vanessa's very mature she's old no i wouldn't say she's
really old i don't know an older Next time you're in there, count the rings.
She's the most experienced person in the hour. An oldie but a goodie.
I know so much from that woman.
She knows everything about the depth of contraception. Oh.
Not jizzing. Wow.
Like a thing. She got me to hold up my cheek.
Wow. She pushed us into anal.
She pushed you into anal?
Not for everybody, but...
What's the question, gentlemen?
But I love
TV.
And I don't want to speak for him, but he loves receiving it.
I actually really do. I get a lot of value out of it.
That's podcast.
That's what that is, right?
You wear a dress.
Oh, wow.
Cool. Vanessa, I can't help doing it.
Wow. But it's not really about penetration.
I mean, it is a little bit.
No, it's not really about surrender.
Yeah, you just gotta surrender that body. Yeah, surrender that body.
Sex is not a thing you do. It's a place you go.
It's a big hospital.
And the menu thing is cool because anyone who has a fantasy can just order.
menu is amazing. You've got bondage, you've got role -playing, you've got...
Pass. PP.
I don't do that.
No, we don't.
Porn tropes don't tend to be our group's thing, but it is on the menu. Don't
want to be tropey.
It's on the menu.
It's on the menu.
I'm just saying. I don't have to judge it. It's something that some people
have on there. I'm just saying.
Double penetration.
Double penetration. You were listing other stuff. Hey, you're a fireman who
likes to be pegged, so.
Firefighter. Firefighter.
To be fair.
Fair point. Fair point. Yeah.
Honestly,
like, this is not how I was expecting this to go.
And I honestly feel like I'm much more incited to what the fuck is going on out
there. And I feel better about it because it's not, you know, you're
mill, Mary.
people's things, I guess. It is something exceptional happening above
And thank you for telling us. And I guess, ultimately, just, you know, maybe
to keep it down. If you have another big birthday or holiday, Arbor Day, maybe
go to Bowling Nest again. We want to get an ear for your healing.
Thank you. Thank you for being so understanding and accepting and so warm.
we are accepting.
Oh, my new friend.
Thank you.
This is so lovely. I know we haven't hung out a lot, but you guys seem cool
progressive. We are, yeah. I mean, I'm an independent.
I don't like being obvious.
No, we weren't there a single time. We don't start at all. Yeah, exactly.
You said when you stopped fighting, you were really funny. We are.
I wasn't sure. Oh, yeah. I'm getting to hang out now. I don't know. I really
appreciate it. How do you know she was so cool? What? Because I'm cool. Oh,
yeah. I'm cool.
I know windows.
Gina knows I'm cool. The what? The window thing? I don't know. What window
thing? No. What window thing? What window thing are you talking about?
Angela likes to be looked at naked.
In the window sometimes.
You forget it, do you?
No, not in person.
In person, she likes to walk around through the window.
Through the window.
It's a little...
What are you talking about?
Tell me what are you talking about?
That might have happened once by accident.
I mean,
it happened more than once.
Word on the street is it was more than once.
Why do I feel like everyone knows something here except for me?
Are we going to come here and explain what the fuck is going on, please?
You want me to explain?
I will explain myself.
The first time I was coming out of the shower, I was nude, and I was on my way
to the living room, and I looked up, and he saw me, and I saw him seeing me, and
then I kept... going that is exactly what happened after i shower i walk past
knowing that he might be watching me that's right ritual that
i actually enjoy because it makes me feel good because i do in fact
like to be looked at naked joe is that okay is there a problem okay why would
that be okay i've never made eye contact never once what does that have to do
with anything
It's a huge deal.
No, it isn't. I don't care about that at all.
Do you even care? Are you barely looking at me? I don't even understand why
you're a vet. So this is somehow my fault. That's fucking crazy.
That's why you don't put blinds on the window so the fireman can see your
fucking...
This is not fucked. Please enlighten me. This isn't fucked. I think what she's
doing is great. It's actually very helpful.
For whom?
For her.
And for our women.
You know how many women let go of their erotic aspirations for good?
You know how difficult it is what she's doing that she's trying to connect with
that part that she has lost? Good for you. Thank you. Bravo. Great work. Thank
you, Joe. It is important. You're going to fucking Pulitzer for this shit. It is
important. Yeah? Yeah. What do we all want? Be honest. To desire. To be
Maybe that's why you look at my boobs in the elevator every time I see you. Oh,
really? Joe looks at your boobs in the elevator. I'm so sorry. Really, Joe?
Wow. He thinks I don't notice, but I do. It's like a little game we have, right?
Such a fucking hypocrite. I don't, I don't. They're out there sometimes. I'm
sorry. When you look at my boobs, do they seem, my boobs,
do they seem out of reach to you?
No, it's a small elevator. I think... Do you feel
worthy of desiring them?
I've never thought about that for one fucking second!
Do me a favor.
Please look at my book right now.
Look at them. Look at them.
Look at them.
I don't want to look at them right now. Don't be rude. Look, it's fine.
Don't be rude. Look at them. I don't want to look at them. Why are you
up on me, for God's sake?
Look, I'm not a sicko like you. I don't need to look at another man's wife's
fucking tits and jerk off to, okay? I'm normal. Who's doing that?
You're doing that. Who?
You. When? Every morning, apparently.
What? No.
I make love to Pina. I tell her about Angela when I see her.
See what?
Are you going to talk about me when you're...
Yes, my love, of course we do.
Really?
I love you.
Wow. I see what's happening right now. What?
This whole thing was a setup.
What the fuck are you talking about?
What
the
fuck are you talking about?
Joe. What?
What has been happening? No, then what?
No, of course not. Did we ever talk to Angela about this? Never. Never? No.
I mean, it is sort of why we came down here, but...
Don't speak Spanish.
Don't speak Spanish!
Okay, okay, okay.
Joe, Angela, we did come down here tonight to invite you.
Invite us to join us.
Join you.
For sex. Sex.
Sex. For group sex.
What else?
Us. Me.
Me? Both of you.
Both of who?
Both of you.
Including me?
We've been talking about this for quite a while, actually.
We were getting
signals, you know, in the window, in the elevator.
They seemed to be very warm signals, signals we liked.
That's what this has been about.
Okay? That is so nice. Thank you.
Say thank you, Joe. Thank you. Very fun.
I feel very complimented.
We find you very, very attractive.
Thank you. We talk about you.
I know.
We talk about my orgasms.
A lot.
They really do.
Okay.
Before we came down, we said you guys have a real quiet sex appeal.
So do you two, too, as well. I wouldn't say it was quiet. No.
So, we want to propose to you that we share a sexual experience together.
Okay?
You, you, her.
And me. Yes. Me too. Yes, also you. Okay.
But it doesn't have to be tonight, okay?
Okay. No pressure. Right. But it definitely could be. Could be tonight.
I brought condoms. Oh, condoms.
It's like it's pre -9 -11.
I mean,
that's what we were talking about. Just like to recap really
quick, just specifically, how would this work?
We can all be together.
We can watch you.
Like
a
referee.
I think I went hot on this one. I think it's hot.
It's whatever we want. Whenever.
Consider it an open invite.
But tonight, again, tonight is on the table.
Okay.
Weekends are tough because of Maggie.
Weekends are also tough. I'm actually training for a half -month.
You've got to overthink everything. You're overthinking this as well. If
not brave enough to get into schedule, you've literally offered to do this. I'm
not afraid.
I'll do this.
I'll fuck right now. I'll fuck you guys right now.
I'm getting worried.
Why? Yeah, because... I'll call me if I am.
We cannot do this from an angry place.
Oh, no, no. I'm not angry. I'm actually not angry. This is me happy.
I haven't seen it yet.
I don't think you guys have. No, we're there. We're there. I can't speak for
them, but I'm personally very good.
I feel very good about this. I feel there. I would actually do this.
You would actually do this?
I would do this. We would do this. I think we would do this.
If this connection is not.
Coming from a healthy place. Very healthy. We are in need of an expansion.
I think we'll be very healthy for a very long time. That's a good reason. That
is a good reason. Everyone's a little fun.
Yeah. Feeling good, feeling good.
Yeah, we haven't eaten too much. Right. Yeah,
Maggie's not home. I'm sorry, I just mean it's like a good time because it's
free time.
It's a good time for us. I'd say there's no time like a horror. Yeah.
I
don't
think this is the night for all of us together.
Right.
But we could try to connect separately.
Oh.
Yeah. All right.
Okay.
Yes. How would you feel about spending a little bit of time alone?
Would you feel awful?
You'd feel good about it. You'd feel okay about it. Then I would also feel
about that as a plan of action I would be willing to proceed with.
As well.
That's also fair. Yes, I do. Yes, that.
Yes. Okay.
I'm going to separate, but they'll be together, so I'm
positive.
So, any reservations?
I would maybe prefer not to have pegging performed on my body.
Your bedroom?
No. Not our bedroom. No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no,
no.
Oh, hello.
That's better, right?
Fuck me.
Sorry,
sorry.
Do you actually look in the mirror and not know how sexy you are? No.
No.
No.
You can't do that out of touch with your face. Are you? No, I'm a stupid fucking
cunt.
No, that's not my inner monologue. That's just the way I speak to myself.
the voice of my head. It's not, no, it's good.
Good.
Thank you so much for this. Thank you for
this.
The menu would culminate.
I think the, um, I think one would, what, you say.
You say.
You say.
Okay, they both include.
That's not bad. That's not bad.
He's fine. No, no, no. He's fine. He's fine.
He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. Hey, look.
I really think he's okay.
I think he's... Yeah, he's just fine.
No,
I just want to go in the head.
Paul! Are you listening to me? What happened?
He fell. He hurt his back. What happened?
He hurt his back. He hurt his back.
Yes, we're back. We're back. Don't touch me. Go away. Get away from me. Just
fucking leave me.
Go.
Please don't do this, whatever you're gonna do, don't do it.
Oh god, don't do this.
Please don't do this.
Oh god.
Embarrassing. We are so fucking embarrassing.
I can't believe it. Of course it's your fucking back. Our entire life is about
your fucking back. Just constant fucking complaining. What are you talking
about? Sorry, my back is an inconvenience to you having a fucking
actually is, if you want to know. And I'm not allowed to complain about it.
not allowed to say a fucking thing about it, ever.
Well, you're talking about it right now, so congratulations.
Oh, no. Is it bad? Yes, it's bad.
Look at me.
Do not ask me about things. I don't know about your back.
I think it actually is very much about my back because it's my back pain.
Your back pain is about everything that you
don't say, you know? It's your race.
It's your hunger seeking.
What are you talking about? Why are you doing this? We were dancing to Chante 30
seconds ago. We didn't hurt you in there when we were dancing. We were having a
nice time. I was loose.
What the fuck are you smiling at?
feel you man you feel me don't try to connect to me i'm not trying to connect
okay look i don't want it i've been where you are joe you've been on your
you're under yeah i've been on the floor angry and in pain and and all of that
trust me oh my god i don't fucking want you to try to in any way emotionally
relate to me you fucking pervert we're nothing alike we're nothing alike also
Come here. What is on your driver's license?
Howard Wilton Kelly.
Howard.
He's Howard.
Your name is Howard.
This whole time, it hasn't been Hawk.
It's been Little Howie.
Oh, my God.
That changes everything.
I didn't know we had a Howard in our midst.
I would have been so much nicer to you.
Where did Hawk come from, Howie?
How'd you land on Hawk?
The name I gave myself.
A nickname you gave yourself.
Literally the lamest words that could have come out of your mouth.
Oh, my God. Were you biking across the playa burning, man? You saw a fucking
bird fly by or something?
No, it's something I did after my wife died.
Slap.
Well, you should plead with that next time, I guess.
She got cancer?
You don't have to answer his question. Well, I don't have to say anything.
It's a fair question, you know.
How does all of this work?
Well, yeah.
After she died, I was doing some things that were pretty suicidally
stupid at work.
I was going to get some health pills along with me.
And do you know how, like, people say your life goes before your eyes?
That happened to me, but not my life. It was our life together.
It went by me in this high -speed film. And
I kept seeing this woman that's, like, very gentle, very
shy.
sweet girl who, like, she thought I hung the moon.
And in the film, she hung over again. She tried to
open up about her fantasy life to me, to, you know,
share this kind of sensual, inventive side of herself
so that I would enter into it with her.
I didn't just, you know, resist it.
I got really tight and judgmental and insecure, and I made
her feel so bad about it that somewhere in that movie she just stops
trying to connect with me at all.
I suppressed her, you know?
shut down her attempt to, like, live more boldly.
For now, you never put me on this one couch and
told me, you know, you got two choices.
Go set yourself on fire for real or change who you are and make yourself
available.
I decided I really better change my name if I was going to change my life.
And so I did.
Well,
I'm sorry your wife passed away. I'm glad you found a woman who would peg you
after you didn't let your wife peg you.
Oh, my God. You have to be sorry.
That's the moral of that story as far as I'm concerned. Oh, my God.
My boyfriend shares that very difficult.
and painful story with you, and you're making fun of him? I'm living a
and painful story right now, in real life!
I really didn't expect this from you. It is fucking disappointing.
No, no, no, no, no, really. Shut up.
Stop being unrespectful to my boyfriend.
Don't be disrespectful.
It's his thing.
His thing?
What? No, no. I was just clarifying. Are you going to interrupt?
Sorry. Correct my English right now?
No, no more. I was trying to clarify.
No! You are always interrupting me. Always correcting me. Do you know how
your Spanish is? And I never tell you, right? What do I do? I help you. I've
been telling you all night.
This is not going to work. It's not the night. They're not ready. Look at this
fucking mess.
And you keep pushing.
You keep pushing because you're always pushing.
And you know why? Because you don't listen.
Just fucking listen.
Okay, okay.
Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the
fuck up.
We are sorry, okay? We're a fucking disaster.
We couldn't even pull off an orgy, okay? We are dead inside, so I apologize for
that. Oh, no, don't worry about that.
Definitely not that you wanted to fuck this over.
It just wasn't the right thing.
But what I don't understand is how you can even have sex with each other.
You're so mean to each other.
Because you do have sex with each other, eh?
When was the last time you two had sex?
Hello.
Oh, sorry. I thought you didn't hear.
Did you say a year? A year? A year ago.
Oh, my God. No wonder why you are so awkward and horny
and weird.
Do you know why you don't want it?
Because of him.
It's your fault. What?
It's not my fault. Of course it's her fault. We don't have sex because she
have sex with me. That's why. You won't have sex with me. You don't try. She
says I stop trying because how many times can I try before I'm just
myself? It's humiliating. I'm being humiliated. Am I not worth just a little
more effort than that? Do you mean to be trying a little bit harder? How much
effort do I need to put into having sex with a woman who's supposed to want to
have sex with me? Why should that take so much effort?
You're supposed to be attracted to me. You're my wife.
What are you talking about? You know what? You don't want to do anything,
So that's where I'm starting, okay? It's not very attractive to be with someone
who's just fucking miserable. So because you're miserable, then I'm miserable.
You're miserable, too. So congratulations. I guess we're both
even, okay? You've nothing to be upset about.
Angela, would you fuck yourself?
Me?
Would you fuck yourself?
Would you?
Fuck yourself.
All I do is fuck myself.
I'm the only person who fucks me, currently.
So, yes.
Do you remember a time when you were multiple?
What's the difference?
Yeah, I do.
How did it turn out?
i'll tell you um i
was on a very bad date at this dive bar where joe was
playing with his band and he was flirting with me the
entire show from the stage was making me laugh and so i made my date drop me off
and i sprinted back to the bar so i could see if i could catch joe and i i
but i don't think you ever realized that i ran 11 blocks that night did you know
that
And we had sex all the time. We actually had great sex. It was great. It was
really fun.
We were best friends.
And then we decided to be miserable.
Are you kidding me right now?
Are you fucking for real?
I decided to be so miserable?
Do you actually not understand how I feel?
At all? Do you not get it?
I was bullied, and I was in all the wrong departments.
Millions of teachers at a bad school.
But I don't know a little bit about it at all. And nothing is going to change
anytime soon. So this is my life. So I'm just a fool.
Yes. Why can't you just let me be miserable?
Why can't you just accept that I am not happy?
And just let me be not happy.
I'm sorry that your band didn't work out, Joe. I'm really sorry. You still
music every single day. You get to live in a beautiful home. You have a kid
who... fucking worship you you have a life that i think many people would kill
for but you've just decided to make the choice to not get over your bullshit and
to just be miserable you won't even fucking touch the piano that you used to
love and we all have this tiptoe around you you're just like a sad wounded puppy
oh fuck off
I am the one who gave everything up. You did that. There's one reason that
you're not doing what you are not doing, and that is because you are not doing
it. You quit.
You gave up.
Can I ask you a question? For real. What do you do all day?
Maggie goes to school. I go to work. You go fucking insane in this apartment.
I don't know what the fuck you're doing. You're buying fucking lamps and pillows
and shit. And then you just fucking control everything.
Aspect of my life when I get home at the end of every fucking day.
What are you doing here? What are you fucking doing?
Fuck me? Yeah, fuck me. Fuck you, and I am not trying to control you. I am not
controlling you. You don't let me do anything. You don't let me get a fucking
cat. I don't like cats. They're fucking me. There you go. Congratulations.
I wanted one fucking thing.
Do you see how you don't do each other? Do you see how you're blaming each other
for your unhappiness?
You made this choice.
They are your choices.
So much you can think.
So much.
Why are you in this marriage?
Great.
That's going to be really, really great for her.
To just think it doesn't not, right? It doesn't feel this.
You prefer to stay close up.
marinating in this horrible anxiety every day.
What's better, to have happy parents who are separate or to have very miserable
parents that stay together for their lives?
I think we only get a few chances for
meaningful relationships in life.
Usually we won't soon.
Different people.
Sometimes we can have a new relationship with the same person.
But I think this relationship is old.
I just wanted to leave the apartment.
Maybe fuck a little.
Sorry to leave.
Maybe not stop.
Can I have my cutter roll back, please?
I'm gonna grab some more.
We have that place in Tahoe and I guess Maggie went to the fair and all that.
You'll love that.
How's your back?
I'm so tired.
Me too.
I'm gonna go to bed.
Should I sleep in my office, I guess?
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