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RONSON: In 1996, I receiveda telephone call out of the blue.
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It was a man calling himself Tony.
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He said his employerwould like a copy of a documentary...
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...I'd made about the Holocaust.
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I said, "Who's your employer?"
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He said, "I can't tell you."I said, "Oh, go on."
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He said,"Okay. It's Stanley Kubrick."
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It was a huge surprise.
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By 1996, Kubrick had becomein the public's eyes...
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...a reclusive mythical figure...
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...never appearing in publicand hardly ever releasing films...
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...althoughit hadn't always been that way.
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In the 1950s and 60s, he producedone brilliant film every few years.
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It was an amazing track record.
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These were masterpieces...
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...classics that changed the waywe looked at cinema.
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He was the most importantand mysterious director...
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...in the world.
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[SCREAMS]
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RONSON:
But then the gaps between releases...
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...of new films got longer and longer.
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What was he doing?
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I sent the tape and waitedfor something amazing to happen.
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For an invitation to the Kubrick houseor something.
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But something else happened.
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Just as he finishedediting Eyes Wide Shut...
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...his first film in 12 years, he died.
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It's a few years later.
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Unexpectedly, Tony, Kubrick's assistant,phones again...
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...and suddenly I get the invitationto the Kubrick house, near St Albans.
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Tony had been readingone of my books...
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...and he remembered our phone callfrom years before...
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...and so he thought it might be niceto invite me up for bit of a tour.
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TONY:
We've got the builders in at the moment.
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RONSON: How long have they been here?
- A couple of years, longer.
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Uh....
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Place needed a lot of work done to it.
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Home improvements,
as you may imagine...
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...were not high
on Stanley's list of priorities.
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This is one of our, uh, Portakabins.
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Full of stuff.
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Let me, uh, put the lights on.
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RONSON: Stanley Kubrick's houseis, amazingly, full of boxes.
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There were boxes everywhere.
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RONSON: How many boxes would you say
there are in total?
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I really can't say.
I mean, clearly over a thousand.
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Yeah. But I wouldn't know,
because they're all over the place.
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RONSON:
Where are they?
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Oh, everywhere in the house.
I mean, the--
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Half the house was filled
with boxes and trunks.
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RONSON: Tony and Jansay that some of these boxes...
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...haven't been opened for decades.
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I adore Kubrick's filmsand I find him so mysterious.
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I would love to be the first personto look through them.
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I ask the family and they say yes.
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It's relics, isn't it?
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It's something very strange that's leftover.
This person has touched that.
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So I can only imagine
that if you're a total film fan...
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...that then the boxes
attain that level.
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RONSON:
I do sense that there is some concern...
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...about what I might do with what I find.
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That's what worries me, that people...
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...pick up a fact or a group of facts
and run away with them...
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...and build this Frankenstein out of it.
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Um, you know, which is tough for us.
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Heh. And wrong, inaccurate.
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RONSON: I start randomly in a Portakabinwith a box marked Islington...
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...which is where I live.
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This is my video shop.
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This is my drycleaners.
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These are doorwaysin my neighborhood...
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...and this is what someone's writtenon them.
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All of these archive boxes here...
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...are mainly photographic
research for, um, Eyes Wide Shut.
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Everything from doorways
to street scenes.
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Cafes.
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And apartment interiors.
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RONSON:
It's like the whole of London...
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- ...is in this Portakabin.
TONY: Yeah.
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And there's a whole box full of gates,
you know, estate gates.
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RONSON: For one scene in Eyes Wide Shut.
TONY: For one scene, yeah.
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RONSON: Did you do this in all of the films?
TONY: Yeah, yeah.
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RONSON: Who were the photographers?
TONY: I think most of the London stuff...
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...was done by Manuel Harlan,
Jan's son.
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And in fact, you can see there it says,
"Manuel, EWS", Eyes Wide Shut.
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RONSON:
How many photographs did you take?
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I don't know.
I can't remember. Thirty thousand?
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Was I think--It was a number
I arrived at once.
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RONSON: So how long were you
traipsing through London for?
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- A year.
- Really. Every day?
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Yeah. Yeah, pretty much, yeah.
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RONSON:
Did you feel like it was a good year?
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MANUEL:
I thought it was a great year actually.
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Originally,
I was just gonna do stately homes...
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...and then suddenly I found myself,
um, looking for coffee shops...
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...and then, um,
doorways that could be...
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...you know, the hooker's doorway
where Tom meets the prostitute.
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You took some hooker doorway
photographs on my street...
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...which I thought was both exciting,
but also a bit of a kick in the teeth.
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Ha-ha-ha. Really?
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Stanley was always keen on getting sort
of the detritus of people's lives.
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So he loved me sort of getting,
sort of, bedside tables...
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...with sort of, you know,
drying socks and a radio-alarm clock...
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...and a Mickey Mouse light
or something like that.
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He'd say, "No Art Department
would ever make this."
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You know, it's so bizarre
that you'd never think of it.
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RONSON:
You shot a lot of toy shops as well.
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MANUEL:
Yeah, toy shops, mortuaries.
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Oh, costume places.
That was a really long job actually.
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I was in every costume shop
in the southeast of England.
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RONSON: And did he look at them all?
- All with tremendous excitement.
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There was a time when I would get,
you know, three or four phone calls a day...
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...saying, you know,
"What are you doing?
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Have you found anything good yet?"
And, you know, "What's this place like?"
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And he had such a charisma
that you wanted to please him.
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RONSON: Would he not be overwhelmed
by the amount of things he'd look through?
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No.
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I would say he was rarely overwhelmed.
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- Yeah, he was--I mean, um...
- Ha, ha.
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...it is true
that he was an impatient man...
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- ...but immensely patient with his work.
- Mm.
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CHRISTIANE: He had a particular gift,
I think, that was a real gift...
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...in that most people
if they work very constant...
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...the doors have to be closed,
everything has to be quiet and, unh.
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He could be interrupted all the time,
he would immediately go back...
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...to whatever it was.
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He would refocus very quickly
within a second.
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MANUEL: There was one time
when he wanted me to shoot...
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...the whole of Commercial Road...
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...from one end of the street to the other.
I mean, it's not a short street.
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But he didn't want the buildings
to tilt forward or back.
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So I had to take a big ladder...
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...with my camera
and there's this huge ladder.
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It was about, you know,
12-foot high, this ladder.
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I had to climb
to the top of the ladder...
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...shoot a shop front,
move the ladder on 12 feet...
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...climb it again,
shoot another shop front.
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And then eventually be able to, you know,
stick together with Sellotape...
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...a long, long sort of--
Literally, 6 meter row of photographs.
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And he was,
"So how soon can you get here?"
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You know, "Come right away."
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And, um, so I drove straight back.
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Having spent an hour
in Snappy-Snaps just waiting.
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RONSON: After Manuelgot his photos developed, he went home...
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...and Sellotaped them all together...
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...so they create a perfect panoramaof the whole of Commercial Road.
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Then he took the roll back to the mansionwhere Stanley Kubrick was waiting...
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...with his art director, Roy Walker.
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And he came in with Roy, and said:
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"Roy, sure beats going there, doesn't it?"
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And, uh, Roy said, "Oh, Stanley,
you're gonna have to go eventually."
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Listen, no one will bother us.
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It's okay. Come on.
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Come on.
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RONSON: This is the hooker-doorway scenefrom Eyes Wide Shut.
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It was eventually shoton a set at Pinewood.
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A random search of a thousand boxescan drive someone crazy...
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...so I try and be more chronologicalabout it.
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Although there isn't muchfrom the early days when Kubrick...
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...was making a filmevery few years.
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Just things like some old film cansof screen tests from long ago.
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Inevitably, the boxes are mainly filledwith things from the later years...
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...from 2001: A Space Odyssey
onwards...
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...when there were the ever-lengtheninggaps between films.
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These boxes tell a lot of stories,but mainly, they tell the stories of the gaps.
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2001 was a watershed. Prior to that,
it was just the way films were made.
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Go on location to Spain...
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...you know, for Spartacus
or Paths of Glory.
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Uh, make those films
without doing much more...
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...than everybody else was doing
at that stage.
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But it was post 2001 that Stanley
then began to get involved...
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...in everything that went on.
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TONY: Stanley had a tough time
keeping up with himself.
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Sort of Catherine wheel of ideas
and projects and things to do and so on.
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These memos date back to '68
when we were doing 2001.
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"Please see that there is a supply of melons
kept in the house at all times.
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Do not let number go below three without
buying some more. Thanks, Stanley."
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By their memos you shall know them.
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"Please check with the weather bureau
and find out what the barometric pressure...
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...in London was last Friday 11th of October
between 6 p.m. and 4 a.m. in the morning.
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Also, find out what the average barometric
pressure is on most days of the year...
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...what is considered extremely high
and what is considered extremely low...
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...and how they would describe
the pressure...
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...on Friday the 11th of October
during the times I mentioned."
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God knows what that was about.
I mean....
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RONSON:
He doesn't say why he wants to know?
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No. Ha, ha.
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I mean, you know, things are done...
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...on a strictly on a need-to-know basis,
you know?
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He used to come in the morning. I mean,
was Stanley up all night writing memos?
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I mean, where does he find the time,
you know?
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RONSON:
And then there were the fan letters.
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Even though Kubrick rarely wrote backto his fans...
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...the fan lettersare perfectly preserved.
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The way they've been filedis extraordinary.
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Kubrick has written "F-P"on the positive ones...
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..."F-N"on the negative ones.
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The ones from Albuquerque have been putin the file marked Albuquerque and so on.
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On the crazy letters,Kubrick has written "Crank."
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RONSON:
Why did he keep a crank file?
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Um, just in case somebody,
uh, suddenly...
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...sprung out of the woodwork
and did something, I mean...
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...we'd have a record
of who they were.
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RONSON: So if he was ever assassinated,
the police would have a list of suspects?
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Well, they would certainly have the,
you know, the, uh, crank files.
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We had, you know, general crank files
and we had crank letters...
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...broken up by film as well.
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RONSON: Why?
- It was more orderly.
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- Orderly.
- More orderly.
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Yeah, I mean, logical.
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VINCENT:
"Dear Stanley Kubrick...
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...I can no longer resist what I hope
is a brotherly urge to write to you.
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It baffles and infuriates me...
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...how anyone of your talent
can be so perverse or incompetent...
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...or cowardly or blind or whatever
the hell it is.
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But the fact of the....
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RONSON:
I wondered what would drive someone...
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...to write a crank letterto Stanley Kubrick...
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...which is why I've come to seethe author of one.
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It turns out that Vincentwas no ordinary crank.
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He was a successful TV scriptwriterand a great Kubrick fan.
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Everything was okay in Vincent's lifeuntil the day London Weekend Television...
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...commissioned him to writea one-hour-fifty-minute drama...
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...called The Death of Adolf Hitler.
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VINCENT:
More and more came to me.
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But I thought it will be so good
when they get it.
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When they see that their one hour fifty
minutes is in fact around about six hours.
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They will think
that this is just wonderful.
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RONSON: This was 1973. Kubrick's filmswere changing cinema...
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...and the way people wrote films back then,which is why Vincent felt so inspired...
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...to deliver his six-hour
Death of Adolf Hitler.
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But they brought it down
to one hour fifty minutes.
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And all the bits they had cut out,
were the bits that I wrote with my heart.
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It was like cardboard.
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We wouldn't be in this mess now
if it wasn't for you!
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You have betrayed the party!
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You have betrayed Germany!
You have betrayed me!
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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RONSON:
The Death of Adolf Hitler is similar to...
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...but definitely not as goodas Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove.
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When they go down into the mine,
everyone would be alive.
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There would
be no shocking memories...
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...and the prevailing emotion will be one
of nostalgia for those left behind...
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...combined with a spirit of bold curiosity
for the adventure ahead. Ha!
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They had reduced it, reduced it, reduced it
to a very mediocre little thing.
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And it seemed incredibly unjust
to me.
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I should be up in the ranks with Kubrick,
and I wasn't. And it wasn't my fault.
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I got there and all that. Yeah.
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I remember the night that I actually saw
The Death of Adolf Hitler on television.
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I put a coat on,
got a bottle of scotch...
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...went out in the garden
under the stars, freezing...
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...and drank the bottle of scotch.
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And I thought, "That's the end.
That's the end."
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RONSON: It was when Vincentgot back inside from his garden...
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...that he wrote the crank letterto Stanley Kubrick.
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"Dear Stanley Kubrick...
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...I can no longer resist what I hope
is a brotherly urge to write to you."
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RONSON:
Vincent's letter to Kubrick is very long.
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He tells him that 2001
was a grave disappointment to him...
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...and he explainswhy in enormous detail.
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And now here's this for patronizing.
"I rarely write to strangers.
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If you find this letter offensive, consider
how very few people I find worth offending.
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[LAUGHING]
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I just want you to do better."
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I must have been thinking to myself that
I should be in the Kubrick league anyway.
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If they'd done my play properly,
I would be up in that league.
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So I'm gonna get up in that league
by being up there...
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...and talking to him down here.
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That is desperation.
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RONSON:
And he saw it as a crank letter?
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Yes. Well, that's what he wrote at the top,
wasn't it? Crank.
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Yeah.
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RONSON: After The Death of Adolf Hitler,
Vincent had one more go.
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He tried to write,
The Birth of Jesus Christ.
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VINCENT:
And I spent the next two years.
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I don't think I ever got past page three
or four, and it was drivel.
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That was two and a half years output.
Was the three pages of drivel.
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So you just wrote--?
You just wrote and rewrote...
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- ...the first three pages of this script?
- Yeah. Yeah.
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RONSON: You were like Jack Nicholson
in The Shining.
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He's in a room
writing over and over again.
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Then his wife reads
what he's written for all those months.
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VINCENT: Yeah.
RONSON: And it's just the same line.
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VINCENT: Yeah.
RONSON: All work and no play...
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...makes Jack a dull boy,
over and over again.
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Not far off that, it was, yeah.
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- Golly.
- Yeah, golly. Ha, ha.
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RONSON: I start comingto the Kubrick house about once a month...
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...to look through the boxes,although it's hard...
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...because they keep getting rearranged.
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There might be no more films to make...
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...but there are box setsand retrospectives to oversee.
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I think about Vincent, the crank writer,as I look through the boxes.
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He abandoned his artistic ambitionsto become a psychotherapist.
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He felt that imperfect peoplein an imperfect industry...
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...had damaged his work.
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The boxes show that Kubrickwas forever guarding...
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...against the same thing happeningto him...
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...even if that meant him goingto tremendous lengths...
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...like measuring all the newspaper adsto make sure...
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...he was getting his money's worth.
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JULIAN: There was one incident
where he thought an ad in Germany...
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...had been smaller
than the ad we had reserved.
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So we measured the ads.
It was a few millimeters short.
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RONSON: How did he notice
the missing millimeters?
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Because he measured them,
he looked at it, he was concerned about it.
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So did he did notice it
with his naked eye or did he happen to--?
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JULIAN:
No, he noticed it with his naked eye.
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He-- Ha-ha-ha.
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He noticed a lot of things
with his naked eye.
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RONSON: So he's got like a pile of ads
and he's going through them...
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...one, then the next, and then the next,
and the next.
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And he thinks, "Did that one--?"
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Attached to each ad is a schedule
of advertising, that says on this day...
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...the Friday or the Saturday, we will have
a 450 millimeter ad in this newspaper.
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Four hundred and fifty millimeter ad,
he measured it...
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...it wasn't 450 millimeters,
it was 437 or 438 millimeters total.
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That was enough to say,
"We must find out what's happening here."
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So I flew to Frankfurt
with a piece of artwork...
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...an ad was created,
the metal plate was made...
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...and indeed there was shrinkage
three or four millimeters each side.
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At which point Stanley said,
"Fine, I am now happy.
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We should think about doing ads
some other way.
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They should think about doing ads
photographically.
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Not on metal plates."
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Talk about prescient, which is the way
advertising is made right now.
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RONSON:
When he said, "I'm happy now"...
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...was he happy now
because he'd been proven right?
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Or was he happy now
because the ad was the right millimeters.
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He'd learned something new
that that does happen with ads.
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RONSON: He wasn't a fan of holidays,
was he? Or sort of down time.
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RICK: I don't think he ever understood
what holidays were about.
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I remember once I was in France
on holiday...
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...and desperate to go down
to the beach with my wife...
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...and young daughter who
was walking around our apartment...
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...with a bucket and spade
ready to go.
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And, uh, the last thing I wanted to do
was to tell Stanley, who was on the phone:
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"Um, yeah, I gotta go now,
because we gotta go to the beach."
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Because he just wouldn't have got
that nor would he have appreciated...
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...you know,
that I was telling him this.
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And, um....
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But eventually the conversation
went on for so long...
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...that my wife and daughter
were making signs at me.
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I said, "Stanley, I've gotta go.
Can I call you back later?"
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And he says, "Where are you"?
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I said, "I'm in France, Stanley."
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"You're in France. Right.
And what are you doing there?"
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I said, "I'm on holiday."
"You're on holiday."
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I said, "Yeah." "Where?"
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"I told you I was in Cannes."
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"You're in Cannes, why?" Heh. "Why"
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And the conversation just went on
and on and on and then he asked me:
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"What are you gonna do there?"
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I said, "We're gonna go down
to the beach, and--" "Yeah."
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And I mean, I felt like
I was such an idiot.
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I was going down to the beach
to build sand castles...
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...and Stanley Kubrick is asking me
to explain this, which I could not do.
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I just could not do.
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RONSON:
Look at these photos I found.
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Kubrick was lookingfor the perfect sinister hat...
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...for the droogs to wearin A Clockwork Orange.
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How did he know when he had foundthe perfect sinister hat?
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I wonder if a man who is this obsessedwith getting his work right...
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...was difficult to live with.
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ANYA: Who he was as a father
isn't the same person...
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...as who he was
on a film set or with colleagues.
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To me, he was my father.
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I never felt I dare not disobey
him ever...
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...uh, which I'm absolutely certain
if he was here he would laugh out loud...
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...ha-ha-ha, that I feared disobeying him.
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CHRISTIANE: Anya was a perfect match.
- Ha-ha-ha.
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TONY: "Please call up some sort
of cat league or society...
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...or something like that or a pet shop.
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Find out if they make any kind of collars
that you can attach a little bell to...
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...to keep the cat
from killing too many birds...
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...but will break away if the cat
catches himself on a tree or branch...
377
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...instead of hanging the cat."
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00:24:10,515 --> 00:24:12,677
Uh, Stanley was mightily preoccupied...
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...with the health and safety
of his cats and dogs.
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In the end, we sort of made
our own detachable collars.
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We brought in some regular collars
and then sort of slit them...
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...and then joined them up
with some easily breakable cotton.
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RONSON: Could he laugh at himself,
at this aspect of his personality?
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TONY:
Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
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I mean, he would suddenly stop
in his tracks and go:
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"Hold on a second. This is madness,"
or "This is so silly."
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RONSON: And of course,
it's this attitude that makes every frame...
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...of the films so special.
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Well, exactly. I mean, if Stanley
wasn't producing these memos...
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...he wouldn't have produced
the films that he produced.
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CHRISTIANE: Stanley always
was very happy to have a new project.
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He felt that it was like studying
a new subject entirely.
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MAN 1: Three.
MAN 2: Agh!
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CHRISTIANE: Being an eternal student,
he liked that, you know?
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What fun that is,
getting all the material together.
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You're like a child then.
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And hence the huge archives
with so many things in them.
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RONSON: But then, after Barry Lyndon,
after he'd made a total of nine films...
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...years began to go by between movies.
400
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What was he doing in there?
401
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One thing he was doing was launchinga lengthy and unsuccessful legal bid...
402
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...to stop the broadcast of the 1970'sTV series Space: 1999.
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Stanley felt correctly, actually...
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...that the use of the name,
Space: 1999...
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...was in some ways ripping off
the title, 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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RONSON: Kubrick wrote to his lawyer,"The deliberate choice of a date...
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...only two years away from 2001is not accidental and it harms us.
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00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:21,779
There seems nothing left now,but to seek the highest possible damages."
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RICK: Very few film directors
will have taken...
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...as strong an interest as this in a film
after it's been made as Stanley did.
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RONSON: It was eight years later?
- Yeah.
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Stanley regarded his films, I think,
like his children...
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...and he took care of them
and I think probably...
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...at least half of my time, um,
working on Stanley projects...
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...were working on films that had
been made quite some time before.
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RONSON: And then there were the scoresof boxes amassed...
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...during the 70s and 80s and 90sthat are filled with Kubrick's search...
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...for a story.
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TONY: "Intelligent kangaroo-shaped reptiles
on another planet...
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...intrigue and impress
a Catholic priest."
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00:27:13,365 --> 00:27:16,130
"After a holocaust has destroyed
the earth...
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...some humans manage to escape
to another planet called Geta.
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And there they found an entirely
different civilization...
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00:27:23,742 --> 00:27:25,438
...in which cannibalism is practiced."
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00:27:25,610 --> 00:27:30,048
"A young man creeps through a crack
on a quest for some golden worms...
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00:27:30,215 --> 00:27:35,279
...has many adventures and finally makes
it back to our own outside world...
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00:27:35,453 --> 00:27:38,150
...with a herd of white horses
and a girlfriend."
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00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:43,960
RONSON: Throughout the 70s and 80s, Tonyemployed a team of readers in America.
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They read thousands of novelsand sent daily reports back to England.
430
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They were frantically searchingfor the next Kubrick movie...
431
00:27:51,870 --> 00:27:54,533
...but they didn't know it,because they had no idea...
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00:27:54,706 --> 00:27:57,437
...who Tony's boss was.
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TONY: I formed a company
called Empyrean Films...
434
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...which Stanley thought sounded
like some sort of, you know...
435
00:28:04,916 --> 00:28:06,680
...no-hope film production company...
436
00:28:06,851 --> 00:28:09,685
...that never quite got off
the ground, you know?
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00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:12,915
He didn't want, um, the readers
to know who they were working for.
438
00:28:13,091 --> 00:28:15,458
It was run rather
like a communist spy cell.
439
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:17,858
You know, nobody knew anybody else.
440
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We didn't have
sort of social evenings...
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...where all the readers got together.
442
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And it was all run out of New York
by Judy Tobey.
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RONSON: Did you ever think to yourself
in those 20 years:
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"Well, what was he doing in there?"
445
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I did. I did. I had--
446
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I certainly had visual images...
447
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...of this hermit sitting there,
pouring through things.
448
00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:40,775
But you know, I had no--
449
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I had no idea
why it would take somebody that long...
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...because previously
he had been making movies, you know--
451
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- About one a year.
- You know, a year apart.
452
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And then it slowed down a bit,
but maybe it was me.
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RONSON: I looked through hundredsof these reader reports and I noticed...
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...that when it comes to the evaluation,it's almost always negative.
455
00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:07,677
"This extraordinary feat of space fiction
is so densely packed...
456
00:29:07,846 --> 00:29:12,284
...with outlandish ideas that it's almost
impossible to follow the plot.
457
00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:15,477
Lysch seems obsessed by the role
of the devil in Catholic context...
458
00:29:15,653 --> 00:29:18,179
...and wonders if he ever wrote
about anything else.
459
00:29:18,356 --> 00:29:23,727
I don't see any future in it
as a dramatic entertainment of any kind."
460
00:29:24,195 --> 00:29:26,858
RONSON: Deborah says that even thoughshe wasn't supposed to know...
461
00:29:27,031 --> 00:29:31,526
...that she was reading for Kubrick,word leaked out.
462
00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:33,296
DEBORAH:
To know that you were writing...
463
00:29:33,471 --> 00:29:37,841
...for that kind of a visionary
was so paralyzing.
464
00:29:38,009 --> 00:29:39,307
You know, what's your first word?
465
00:29:39,477 --> 00:29:44,074
And I think that a lot of the time
when the reader is aware....
466
00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:48,243
...uh, where the report is going
and who is going to read it...
467
00:29:48,419 --> 00:29:51,184
...um, they really turn up the wattage.
468
00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:53,757
RONSON: Yeah, they're kind of showing off.
- It's showing off.
469
00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:57,418
It's time to play.
It's time to be smart.
470
00:29:57,595 --> 00:30:01,760
And sometimes it's even more important
to be smart than it is to be right.
471
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:06,268
Yeah. It's like the readers are saying,
"I'm better than this science fiction author."
472
00:30:06,437 --> 00:30:12,035
I'm better than--I'm a better writer
than anything you will give me to read.
473
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:17,547
And, um, it really is an interesting thing
because it's much easier...
474
00:30:17,715 --> 00:30:21,982
...to give a smart no,
than it is to give a smart yes.
475
00:30:22,153 --> 00:30:24,816
RONSON:
I've got a bad news though, Tony.
476
00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:28,448
- What's that?
- I've just found one that you read.
477
00:30:28,626 --> 00:30:31,619
And you said
that you didn't recommend it.
478
00:30:31,796 --> 00:30:34,664
And it was subsequently a film that became
the biggest blockbuster in--
479
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,927
Yeah. Look.
480
00:30:44,809 --> 00:30:47,278
The Killing Fields by Bruce Robinson.
481
00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:49,073
My comments.
482
00:30:49,247 --> 00:30:52,183
"The screenplay was boring to read.
483
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:54,842
I kept flicking the pages to see
how many more I had to read.
484
00:30:55,787 --> 00:30:57,278
The screenplay is very over written...
485
00:30:57,455 --> 00:30:59,981
...and contains lengthy,
descriptive passages."
486
00:31:00,158 --> 00:31:04,721
He certainly was sad that he couldn't
find a story he wanted to do.
487
00:31:04,896 --> 00:31:07,491
He was, uh, depressed.
488
00:31:07,665 --> 00:31:09,691
You know, and he would start
and read around.
489
00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:14,306
Start this and do research
on certain things and gave up...
490
00:31:14,472 --> 00:31:19,570
...and he felt it was bad luck that
he couldn't find what he wanted to do next.
491
00:31:19,744 --> 00:31:22,270
RONSON: What was he looking for
when he was reading a book or...?
492
00:31:22,447 --> 00:31:25,679
The magic moment of falling
in love with a story.
493
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:31,019
RONSON: I suppose the downsideof immersing yourself in the details...
494
00:31:31,189 --> 00:31:34,353
...comes when your thought processtakes you to a place...
495
00:31:34,525 --> 00:31:37,518
...where the detail is impossible to take.
496
00:31:37,695 --> 00:31:41,962
There are boxes and boxes from the '80sfilled with immense research...
497
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:47,367
...for an eventually abandonedHolocaust film called Wartime Lies.
498
00:31:47,538 --> 00:31:52,101
You almost lose your hold on life,
it's so depressing.
499
00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:55,975
You don't want to do anything
if you read enough of that stuff.
500
00:32:00,685 --> 00:32:03,553
RONSON: Yeah, not easy to even
look through just those photos.
501
00:32:03,721 --> 00:32:06,555
No, you sit crumpled in a corner,
you start to cry and you-- Ugh.
502
00:32:06,724 --> 00:32:09,250
You know, it's too awful.
503
00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:13,523
So that's why he gave that up.
504
00:32:13,698 --> 00:32:15,223
And I was very glad when he gave up.
505
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,097
I mean, I didn't wanna see
another one of those books.
506
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:22,864
RONSON: But there was a second reasonwhy Wartime Lies never got made.
507
00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:25,408
TONY:
We did about two years pre-production.
508
00:32:25,576 --> 00:32:28,410
We built a massive, great archive
of Poland...
509
00:32:28,579 --> 00:32:30,810
...of the concentration camps,
everything.
510
00:32:30,982 --> 00:32:36,216
And while we were doing this two years
worth of background research...
511
00:32:36,387 --> 00:32:39,414
...recall Steven Spielberg,
came along, researched...
512
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:42,992
...shot, edited
and released Schindler's List.
513
00:32:43,161 --> 00:32:47,257
Which Stanley said would've been a hard
act to follow, so that was then abandoned.
514
00:32:47,432 --> 00:32:49,298
RONSON:
So he went from the very beginning...
515
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:51,231
...to the very end of Schindler's List...
516
00:32:51,402 --> 00:32:53,928
...in the amount of time
it took you to amass--
517
00:32:54,105 --> 00:32:56,336
Doing the research, yeah.
518
00:32:57,875 --> 00:33:00,174
Isn't there a lesson there?
519
00:33:01,512 --> 00:33:04,107
Uh, I don't think so. Um....
520
00:33:04,749 --> 00:33:08,777
Because that was the way
that Stanley made films.
521
00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:13,155
RONSON: I know one thing Kubrickwas doing during those years.
522
00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:16,690
He was getting annoyedwith the boxes.
523
00:33:16,861 --> 00:33:19,695
He thought the lids were too tight.
524
00:33:19,864 --> 00:33:22,333
TONY: There was a company
called G. Ryder up in Milton Keynes.
525
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,992
We phoned them up and spoke to them...
526
00:33:25,169 --> 00:33:28,333
...and, um, Stanley worked out
what he thought...
527
00:33:28,506 --> 00:33:33,035
...was the optimum size for a box.
528
00:33:33,211 --> 00:33:36,306
Um, it was easy to handle. Easy to store.
529
00:33:36,481 --> 00:33:38,848
Stanley figured, "You know,
it can't be rocket science...
530
00:33:39,017 --> 00:33:44,217
...making, um, a lid that's both snug,
yet will lift off easily."
531
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:48,986
RONSON: Did he actually, um,
sit down with a pen and paper and work--?
532
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,528
TONY: Yeah, yeah. And worked out
exactly what it was. Yeah.
533
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:54,928
It was the internal dimensions
that we gave them.
534
00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:58,661
And then we--
Stanley, rather, then specified...
535
00:33:58,836 --> 00:34:02,739
...what, um, thickness or micron
of card that he wanted.
536
00:34:04,409 --> 00:34:09,109
Obviously we had specific instructions
and it actually says on here.
537
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,910
"Lid to be not too tight, not too loose."
538
00:34:13,084 --> 00:34:15,679
And then in capital letters, "Just perfect."
539
00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:19,415
RONSON: You wanna give it a try?
See if the dimensions worked.
540
00:34:20,324 --> 00:34:23,351
As you can see,
that lid comes off perfectly.
541
00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:26,521
These are boxes that will,
you know, see us all out.
542
00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:29,492
RONSON:
It's a lovely box.
543
00:34:29,834 --> 00:34:33,635
It's like the 2001: A Space Odyssey
of boxes.
544
00:34:33,805 --> 00:34:38,436
I found an internal memo
in one of the boxes...
545
00:34:38,609 --> 00:34:41,841
...um, that, you know, I don't know
the production chief...
546
00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:46,576
...at Ryder and Co. had sent
to the floor manager on their letterhead...
547
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:52,691
...but written on it was, um,
let me get the words right:
548
00:34:53,558 --> 00:34:57,086
"Fussy customer.
Make sure the lids slide off properly."
549
00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:00,197
And, uh, Stanley found that
terribly amusing.
550
00:35:00,898 --> 00:35:04,391
Yeah, I guess we were fussy customers
as opposed to the customers...
551
00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:07,596
...who didn't mind spending all afternoon
struggling trying to get a lid off.
552
00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:12,571
RONSON:
He started staying in a lot more.
553
00:35:12,743 --> 00:35:16,305
So much so that the outside worldno longer knew what he looked like...
554
00:35:17,014 --> 00:35:22,578
...although he did go out quite frequentlyto the St Alban's branch of Rymans.
555
00:35:22,753 --> 00:35:26,690
He was just particularly fond
of beautiful things...
556
00:35:26,858 --> 00:35:28,451
...that you buy in a stationary store.
557
00:35:28,626 --> 00:35:32,358
Whether this is pads,
notebooks, folders, inks.
558
00:35:32,530 --> 00:35:35,159
He had hundreds and hundreds
of bottles of inks.
559
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:38,963
I mean, we could've opened
a stationary super store.
560
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,800
I think Stanley had some sort of fear
that one would run--
561
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,375
Eventually run out of stationery,
so we had more stationary...
562
00:35:45,543 --> 00:35:46,909
...you would never imagine.
563
00:35:47,078 --> 00:35:50,139
RONSON:
There are still boxes full of old stationary...
564
00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:53,807
...from the ancient Rymans
of days gone by.
565
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,011
Stanley often used to joke
that he was gonna open...
566
00:35:56,187 --> 00:35:58,156
...a stationary nostalgia museum.
567
00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:03,624
RONSON: I suppose stationary collectingis the obvious hobby for a perfectionist...
568
00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:07,162
...because what could be more flawlessthan stationary.
569
00:36:07,331 --> 00:36:11,792
He would go to Rymans and see whether
they have something new. Ha, ha.
570
00:36:11,969 --> 00:36:14,598
RONSON: Nobody knew what he looked like?
- No.
571
00:36:14,772 --> 00:36:17,173
No, and he paid always cash.
572
00:36:17,341 --> 00:36:19,401
And he didn't want to use a credit card...
573
00:36:19,577 --> 00:36:24,208
...because he didn't want to disclose his
name and get into awkward conversations.
574
00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:29,085
He found it uncomfortable to be asked,
"Oh, are you Stanley Kubrick?
575
00:36:29,253 --> 00:36:33,918
Did you do 2001? What is the end mean?
I didn't understand that."
576
00:36:34,091 --> 00:36:36,993
He liked the fact that he was not
recognized easily.
577
00:36:37,161 --> 00:36:40,063
Not that he had given people
lots of chances...
578
00:36:40,231 --> 00:36:42,598
...because he didn't really go out much.
579
00:36:43,301 --> 00:36:45,668
RONSON: You wouldn't need to in a place--
- He loved it here.
580
00:36:45,836 --> 00:36:49,273
You know, people always sort
of point the finger on him and say:
581
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,842
"Oh, well this is such a strange guy
sitting in his home."
582
00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:55,411
He had a lovely time.
People came to him.
583
00:36:57,582 --> 00:37:00,643
RONSON: I sometimes wonder what Kubrickwould've made of this documentary.
584
00:37:02,286 --> 00:37:05,586
Jan says he thinks he would'vebeen intrigued.
585
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:09,217
He didn't throw anything awayand he would've liked the idea...
586
00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:13,558
...of someone years later,trying to make sense of it all.
587
00:37:15,766 --> 00:37:22,502
In the end, three films were releasedin 19 years including one in 1987.
588
00:37:23,874 --> 00:37:26,776
This is a random notebook
he sort of carried around...
589
00:37:26,944 --> 00:37:30,711
...and would jot down odd notes in
at odd times.
590
00:37:30,881 --> 00:37:34,943
RONSON: Will you read some of them out?
- Um, let's see what we've got here.
591
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,480
"Include utter banalities."
592
00:37:38,656 --> 00:37:40,249
HARTMAN:
Get on your feet.
593
00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:43,360
You had best unfuck yourself
or I will unscrew your head...
594
00:37:43,527 --> 00:37:45,962
- ...and shit down your neck.
- Sir, yes, sir.
595
00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:48,361
Private Joker, why did you join
my beloved Corps?
596
00:37:48,532 --> 00:37:50,467
- Sir, to kill, sir.
- So you're a killer?
597
00:37:50,635 --> 00:37:53,400
- Sir, yes, sir.
- Let me see your war face.
598
00:37:53,571 --> 00:37:56,905
- Sir.
- You got a war face? Aah!
599
00:37:57,074 --> 00:37:59,236
That's a war face.
Now let me see your war face.
600
00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:00,673
[YELLS]
601
00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:04,009
Bullshit, you didn't convince me.
Let me see your real war face.
602
00:38:04,181 --> 00:38:05,672
[SCREAMS]
603
00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:09,417
- You don't scare me. Work on it.
- Sir, yes, sir.
604
00:38:09,587 --> 00:38:15,754
Kubrick wanted the whole cast
of the boot camp...
605
00:38:15,926 --> 00:38:20,762
...to be realistic and true to the facts.
That meant 18 year olds.
606
00:38:20,931 --> 00:38:25,266
And we had 2,500 casting tapes
which Leon Vitali organized...
607
00:38:25,436 --> 00:38:27,701
...in the United States in various cities.
608
00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:30,967
I saw well over 4,000 kids...
609
00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:34,670
...who had auditioned on tape
from America.
610
00:38:34,845 --> 00:38:38,612
Stanley Kubrick at Warner Bros. Studios
in London, England.
611
00:38:38,783 --> 00:38:40,752
My name is Vinnie Fiorentino.
612
00:38:40,918 --> 00:38:44,252
I'm an American actor and I'm sending
this to you from New York City.
613
00:38:44,422 --> 00:38:47,449
I had five different machines,
all wired up...
614
00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:49,890
...because there were different formats
of tape coming in.
615
00:38:50,061 --> 00:38:53,259
So I rolled out of bed literally at,
like, 8:00 in the morning...
616
00:38:53,431 --> 00:38:56,629
...and just wander into this room
and just start them off.
617
00:38:56,801 --> 00:39:01,102
And I'd be there till 10, 11,
sometimes midnight.
618
00:39:01,272 --> 00:39:03,537
RONSON: How long?
- Every day. Uh--
619
00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:05,176
Four months, four and a half months.
620
00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:08,102
[IN ENGLISH]
621
00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:58,856
The thought of missing something
is terrifying.
622
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:01,322
And that was another thing
about Stanley, you know?
623
00:40:01,499 --> 00:40:02,523
I mean, he's sort of--
624
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,034
He's condemned me
to this kind of way of being.
625
00:40:06,203 --> 00:40:10,004
He always used to say, "Leon,
do you realize 2001, that was a paragraph...
626
00:40:10,174 --> 00:40:11,836
...inside a short story."
627
00:40:12,276 --> 00:40:14,802
RONSON: I saw a guy
come out of his house and climb a tree.
628
00:40:14,979 --> 00:40:17,039
- Right.
- And then his friend-- Does this ring a bell?
629
00:40:17,214 --> 00:40:18,238
Yeah, it does ring a bell.
630
00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:20,408
RONSON: His friend is walking
playing the harmonica.
631
00:40:20,584 --> 00:40:24,043
LEON: Right, yeah.
RONSON: And then his friend looks up.
632
00:40:24,221 --> 00:40:27,020
- Arg!
- You're mad! Now get down out of that tree.
633
00:40:27,191 --> 00:40:32,459
RONSON: And then grabs a stick, and the
guy in the tree starts hissing like a panther.
634
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:35,031
And then jumps off the tree and wrestles
him to the ground...
635
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,430
- ...and they start beating each other up.
LEON: Ha-ha-ha.
636
00:40:40,538 --> 00:40:43,007
RONSON:
These videos are like time capsules.
637
00:40:43,174 --> 00:40:47,236
You can see the moment that Leonand Kubrick pressed the stop button...
638
00:40:47,411 --> 00:40:51,280
...and the tapes got recycledand used to record Hill Street Blues...
639
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:54,613
...or EastEnders
or a football game instead.
640
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:57,254
She moves above and beyond us.
641
00:40:57,421 --> 00:41:00,152
A ghost haunting the past.
642
00:41:00,558 --> 00:41:03,528
And here we sit pretending to forget...
643
00:41:03,694 --> 00:41:05,458
...yet straining our ears.
644
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:09,395
We kept recycling, ha, ha,
whatever we could.
645
00:41:10,434 --> 00:41:13,233
RONSON: And then there wasthe audition tape that came in of the man...
646
00:41:13,404 --> 00:41:16,841
...who Sellotaped a photographof Kubrick to a melon...
647
00:41:17,007 --> 00:41:19,442
...and then shot the melon to pieces.
648
00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:20,634
LEON:
And you know:
649
00:41:20,811 --> 00:41:21,835
[MIMICS EXPLOSION]
650
00:41:22,012 --> 00:41:23,036
...like....
651
00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:26,616
And, um, so I, you know,
I told Stanley about this straight away...
652
00:41:26,784 --> 00:41:31,222
...because I just though
it was just too nasty to ignore.
653
00:41:31,388 --> 00:41:36,383
And before you knew it,
I mean, he actually turned up in England...
654
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,691
...and got into a cab in St Alban's.
He didn't know where Stanley lived.
655
00:41:40,865 --> 00:41:44,734
All he had to say to the cab driver was
take me to Kubrick's house, and he did.
656
00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:46,097
[LAUGHING]
657
00:41:46,270 --> 00:41:50,002
And there he was on the doorstep.
It was scary. It's very freaky.
658
00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:52,006
RONSON: You saw him.
You looked out the window.
659
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:54,042
No, no, I didn't see him
when he turned up.
660
00:41:54,211 --> 00:41:58,114
Because I was back down at the end
to the estate in that house...
661
00:41:58,282 --> 00:42:03,846
...looking at more wackos like him,
but, um, when he turned up...
662
00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:05,751
...I mean, it was terrifying. It really was.
663
00:42:05,923 --> 00:42:08,916
Because you realize how vulnerable
Stanley was.
664
00:42:09,093 --> 00:42:12,257
I mean, someone just get into a cab
and saying take me to Kubrick's house...
665
00:42:12,429 --> 00:42:14,523
...and he actually delivered him there.
666
00:42:14,698 --> 00:42:19,500
And, um, yeah,
so I know in the end, um....
667
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:24,438
I think Stanley got in contact with
the Home Office and actually reported him.
668
00:42:24,608 --> 00:42:28,875
You know, there were those wackos
around inside of the U.S. Forces.
669
00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:30,571
I mean, there were.
670
00:42:30,748 --> 00:42:35,345
So if only you could harness that kind of,
you know, madness...
671
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:39,320
...that would be something, you know,
you'd love to capture onscreen.
672
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:41,550
I mean, you know, it's what's in the eyes.
673
00:42:42,259 --> 00:42:44,819
What do I think
about America's involvement in the war?
674
00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:47,089
Well, I think we should win.
675
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:52,095
You motherfucker. Agh!
676
00:42:52,269 --> 00:42:53,396
[SHOUTING]
677
00:42:53,837 --> 00:42:56,136
RONSON:
Did any of them end up in the movie?
678
00:42:56,307 --> 00:42:57,798
LEON: Oh, yeah.
RONSON: Oh, really?
679
00:42:57,975 --> 00:42:59,807
LEON: Adam Baldwin,
who played Animal Mother...
680
00:42:59,977 --> 00:43:01,775
...came from one of those tapes.
681
00:43:02,713 --> 00:43:05,842
Arliss Howard, who played Cowboy.
682
00:43:06,016 --> 00:43:07,746
Where the hell are you from, private?
683
00:43:07,918 --> 00:43:10,183
- Sir, Texas, sir.
- Holy dogshit. Texas?
684
00:43:10,354 --> 00:43:13,290
Only steers and queers
come from Texas, Private Cowboy.
685
00:43:13,457 --> 00:43:16,791
And you don't much look like a steer to me,
so that kind of narrows it down.
686
00:43:16,961 --> 00:43:18,930
- Do you suck dicks?
- Sir, no, sir.
687
00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:21,224
- Are you a peter puffer?
- Sir, no, sir.
688
00:43:21,398 --> 00:43:24,027
I'll bet you would fuck
a person in the ass...
689
00:43:24,201 --> 00:43:27,171
...and not even have the goddamn common
courtesy to give him a reach around.
690
00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:32,368
The whole platoon, main platoon, actually,
mostly came from those audition tapes.
691
00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:34,011
It was really worthwhile.
692
00:43:35,946 --> 00:43:40,646
RONSON: For months, I've noticed someold film cans on a shelf in the stable block.
693
00:43:40,818 --> 00:43:42,548
Nobody knows what's on them.
694
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,884
They're just sitting thereand have been for decades.
695
00:43:46,056 --> 00:43:50,619
They can't be outtakes becauseKubrick had all his outtakes incinerated.
696
00:43:50,794 --> 00:43:53,059
They turn out to be 18 hours of footage...
697
00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:57,895
...that one of Kubrick's daughter's, Vivian,shot on the set of Full Metal Jacket.
698
00:43:58,068 --> 00:44:00,731
Uh, Robert. Yeah, let's see your position.
699
00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:04,898
RONSON: I never meet Vivian.She lives in Los Angeles now.
700
00:44:05,776 --> 00:44:07,472
We fucked around
for an hour and 20 minutes.
701
00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:08,943
MAN 1:
No, they're the ones--
702
00:44:09,113 --> 00:44:11,514
MAN 2: Then we had to--
I know it seems like a lot of tea breaks.
703
00:44:11,682 --> 00:44:13,878
But we had the tea break that was up at--
Over there.
704
00:44:14,051 --> 00:44:15,815
We had that when he hurt his knee.
705
00:44:15,986 --> 00:44:18,979
I mean, you had a tea break at 4:00?
And you have a tea break at 6:00 and--
706
00:44:19,156 --> 00:44:20,954
MAN 1:
No, this is a fresh tea break.
707
00:44:21,125 --> 00:44:22,457
- It came up to me--
- No, no.
708
00:44:22,626 --> 00:44:27,030
But if you had a tea break at 4,
you don't have to break for this tea break.
709
00:44:27,197 --> 00:44:29,894
This must just be, you know,
a complimentary tea break.
710
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:32,901
If you broke for tea at 4,
you don't have to break for tea at 6.
711
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:36,905
That's a quarter to 7
and then break for a meal at 7:30.
712
00:44:37,074 --> 00:44:39,043
So figure it out.
713
00:44:40,811 --> 00:44:43,906
I could do away with them all. Because
it gives me more fucking headaches...
714
00:44:44,081 --> 00:44:45,913
...poxy tea breaks, than anything else.
715
00:44:46,083 --> 00:44:49,679
Fucking sling them right down
that fucking fish hole.
716
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,414
- All right, Terry.
- All right.
717
00:44:54,792 --> 00:44:57,990
- Sort of men we need, though, Stanley.
- That's right.
718
00:45:04,168 --> 00:45:07,070
Now, these two men are a little far apart.
719
00:45:07,237 --> 00:45:09,672
I think this last man
should move up a bit.
720
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,536
[MEN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
721
00:45:14,111 --> 00:45:15,807
KUBRICK: Terry.
TERRY: Yeah.
722
00:45:16,613 --> 00:45:20,550
KUBRICK: In fact, there is quite
a solid mass of people on the left now.
723
00:45:21,251 --> 00:45:24,312
Let's stay there now.
We're ready. Getting ready to shoot.
724
00:45:38,335 --> 00:45:39,894
[APPLAUSE]
725
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:42,301
[PEOPLE CHEERING]
726
00:45:45,042 --> 00:45:47,568
MAN: All right.
- Well done, beautiful.
727
00:45:48,011 --> 00:45:50,503
- Ha, ha.
MAN: You okay?
728
00:45:50,681 --> 00:45:52,343
He died.
729
00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:54,813
Cole.
730
00:45:54,985 --> 00:45:57,181
[ALL LAUGHING]
731
00:45:57,788 --> 00:45:59,154
KUBRICK:
Action.
732
00:45:59,490 --> 00:46:03,120
You little scumbag.
I've got your name. I've got your ass.
733
00:46:03,293 --> 00:46:05,057
You will not laugh. You will not cry.
734
00:46:05,229 --> 00:46:07,789
You will learn by the numbers.
I will teach you.
735
00:46:07,965 --> 00:46:09,763
Now get up. Get on your feet.
736
00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:12,596
[SINGING]
This is my rifle, this is my gun
737
00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:15,604
This is for fighting, this is for fun
738
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:18,675
They should only do it when they say,
"This is my gun."
739
00:46:18,842 --> 00:46:19,866
And then let go again.
740
00:46:20,043 --> 00:46:22,239
This is for fighting, this is for fun.
741
00:46:22,412 --> 00:46:25,109
This is my rifle, this is my gun
742
00:46:25,282 --> 00:46:28,514
This is for fighting, this is for fun
743
00:46:28,685 --> 00:46:31,655
Okay, one other thing.
There's three beats on when you do it.
744
00:46:31,822 --> 00:46:34,883
It should be three shakes.
This is my gun.
745
00:46:35,058 --> 00:46:38,859
No, in time to the thing.
This is my rifle, this is my gun...
746
00:46:39,029 --> 00:46:41,555
...this is for fighting, this is for fun.
747
00:46:41,732 --> 00:46:45,100
So give it three because a lot of people
just still touch and go what they're doing.
748
00:46:45,269 --> 00:46:46,328
[ALL LAUGHING]
749
00:46:46,503 --> 00:46:47,527
Okay.
750
00:46:47,704 --> 00:46:49,832
This is my rifle, this is my gun
751
00:46:50,007 --> 00:46:52,533
This is for fighting, this is for fun
752
00:46:53,877 --> 00:46:56,745
RONSON: It was around the timeat the release of Full Metal Jacket...
753
00:46:56,914 --> 00:47:01,045
...that rumors of Kubrick's apparent,eccentric, reclusive behavior...
754
00:47:01,218 --> 00:47:03,710
...began appearing in the papers.
755
00:47:04,855 --> 00:47:06,983
Quote, "We're hearing stories...
756
00:47:07,157 --> 00:47:12,653
...that suggest Kubrick is even more insane
than psychiatrists had led us to believe.
757
00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:16,824
There's a thin line
between being an artistic perfectionist...
758
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,162
...and being a barking loon.
759
00:47:19,336 --> 00:47:23,432
Stanley has clearly crossed that line
and then some."
760
00:47:24,074 --> 00:47:26,509
A little to your left and stay there
after you move.
761
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:28,805
Okay, aim your gun.
762
00:47:28,979 --> 00:47:30,743
MAN: Be careful when it goes off.
WOMAN: Okay.
763
00:47:30,914 --> 00:47:32,883
MAN:
Sometimes you get a shock.
764
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:37,215
ERMEY: That was a charge in there.
- That was a real blast.
765
00:47:41,992 --> 00:47:45,429
ERMEY:
I said, "You gotta be shitting me, Joker."
766
00:47:45,629 --> 00:47:47,063
You think you're Mickey Spillane?
767
00:47:47,231 --> 00:47:49,564
KUBRICK: That's right.
You think you're Mickey Spillane.
768
00:47:49,733 --> 00:47:52,464
You think you're some kind
of fucking writer.
769
00:47:56,306 --> 00:47:58,605
You gotta be shitting me, Joker.
770
00:47:58,775 --> 00:48:00,334
You think you're Mickey Spillane?
771
00:48:00,510 --> 00:48:04,311
- You think you're some kind of writer?
KUBRICK: "Fucking writer."
772
00:48:04,915 --> 00:48:07,384
ERMEY: Was that "fucking" always--?
- You put it in.
773
00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:09,986
ERMEY: You're some kind of fucking writer.
KUBRICK: Okay.
774
00:48:10,153 --> 00:48:13,885
"He insists on eating all three courses
of his dinner simultaneously...
775
00:48:14,057 --> 00:48:15,616
...in the manner of Napoleon.
776
00:48:15,792 --> 00:48:18,626
Hates being driven faster
than 35 miles per hour...
777
00:48:18,795 --> 00:48:22,197
...and refuses to fly
despite having a pilot's license."
778
00:48:22,366 --> 00:48:27,134
Okay, so all y'all fire
when he hops over that concrete.
779
00:48:27,304 --> 00:48:32,936
Stanley was not clinically
insane as Punch suggests.
780
00:48:33,110 --> 00:48:35,045
He was not insane.
781
00:48:35,212 --> 00:48:37,841
He was one of the smartest men
who ever lived.
782
00:48:38,015 --> 00:48:40,109
He felt it's gone wrong...
783
00:48:40,284 --> 00:48:44,051
...that I've stayed, uh, secretive.
784
00:48:44,855 --> 00:48:46,687
ANYA: Or private.
- Private.
785
00:48:46,857 --> 00:48:48,587
- It's different.
- I'm using the press's term.
786
00:48:48,759 --> 00:48:51,160
You know, he's secretive.
I'm not secretive.
787
00:48:51,328 --> 00:48:53,820
I just don't want, you know....
788
00:48:54,631 --> 00:48:57,601
What had been very understandable...
789
00:48:58,101 --> 00:49:02,505
...and in fact envied by many people...
790
00:49:02,673 --> 00:49:06,405
...who are in public life,
uh, turned sour.
791
00:49:07,911 --> 00:49:10,938
RONSON:
The truth is Kubrick didn't need to go out...
792
00:49:11,114 --> 00:49:15,552
...because the whole world came to himand the whole world was right here...
793
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,349
...in a thousand boxes on this estate.
794
00:49:38,375 --> 00:49:43,370
Well, well, well, well, well.
How do you do, Mr. Kubrick?
795
00:49:43,547 --> 00:49:45,641
Feeling all right?
796
00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:47,614
No pain in the gulliver or anything?
797
00:49:48,885 --> 00:49:50,513
Good.
798
00:49:51,555 --> 00:49:53,615
If there's only one suggestion
I would have...
799
00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:56,919
...it would be to viddy well, little brother.
800
00:49:58,228 --> 00:50:00,390
Viddy well.
801
00:50:01,231 --> 00:50:03,598
RONSON:
There's a videotape in the crank box...
802
00:50:03,767 --> 00:50:06,635
...the box that Kubrick kept in casehe was ever assassinated...
803
00:50:06,803 --> 00:50:09,637
...and the police would havea list of suspects.
804
00:50:09,806 --> 00:50:12,401
It was sent to Kubrick in the mid 80s.
805
00:50:12,576 --> 00:50:15,569
The video seems to have been madejust for Kubrick.
806
00:50:15,746 --> 00:50:18,614
It's threatening in a complicated way.
807
00:50:18,782 --> 00:50:22,219
In it, someone pretending to be Kubrickis beaten up...
808
00:50:22,386 --> 00:50:24,218
...like the tramp in
A Clockwork Orange...
809
00:50:24,388 --> 00:50:26,186
...and he ends up in a wheelchair.
810
00:50:26,356 --> 00:50:30,487
This newest effort will test
the artist in all of us.
811
00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:35,863
RONSON: I found your video in a box
in Stanley Kubrick's house.
812
00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:37,695
VAN:
That's amazing. Yeah.
813
00:50:37,868 --> 00:50:41,566
It has been 25 years since
I even thought about that video.
814
00:50:41,738 --> 00:50:45,675
And when you guys called me,
I was like, "Is this some kind of joke?
815
00:50:45,842 --> 00:50:47,902
Somebody pulling a prank on me?"
816
00:50:48,078 --> 00:50:51,207
We were, I mean, fans of his movies...
817
00:50:51,381 --> 00:50:54,215
...and he comes out with The Shining...
818
00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:57,752
...and which at the time
we thought was rather muddy.
819
00:50:57,921 --> 00:51:01,414
So we made this parody
and I played Kubrick.
820
00:51:01,591 --> 00:51:06,154
Mr. Kubrick, most people who want
to appreciate art...
821
00:51:06,329 --> 00:51:10,699
...go to the museum, not the cinema.
822
00:51:10,867 --> 00:51:13,701
These are mere subtleties, padre.
823
00:51:13,870 --> 00:51:15,702
I don't remember the dialogue,
but it was like:
824
00:51:15,872 --> 00:51:18,034
"I am a genius.
How dare you question?"
825
00:51:18,208 --> 00:51:21,975
Wouldn't we all like to play God
in some way or another?
826
00:51:22,145 --> 00:51:28,415
To walk on the set, know just exactly,
precisely what you want.
827
00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:31,020
To have the money to do it.
828
00:51:31,588 --> 00:51:33,181
Think about it.
829
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:37,154
To work with me, the exalted one.
830
00:51:38,228 --> 00:51:41,721
RONSON: It turns out that Kubrick and Ihad misunderstood the tape.
831
00:51:41,898 --> 00:51:46,836
They weren't trying to be threatening.They thought they were being playful.
832
00:51:47,003 --> 00:51:50,167
So you thought you were coming here
to meet a Kubrick killer?
833
00:51:50,807 --> 00:51:54,300
RONSON: Because it's got knives and
it's got somebody who looks like Kubrick...
834
00:51:54,478 --> 00:51:58,415
...being beaten up and then you see him
in a wheelchair and the guy...
835
00:51:58,582 --> 00:52:01,211
...you know, looking like Alex,
is like screaming...
836
00:52:01,384 --> 00:52:04,149
...and with his wild eyes, going,
"Viddy well, Mr. Kubrick."
837
00:52:04,321 --> 00:52:08,554
Ha-ha-ha. Wow, yeah. Eh....
838
00:52:08,725 --> 00:52:13,288
Nowhere near the intent.
Not even a thought of anything like that.
839
00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:18,126
RONSON: That wasn't the end of the story.Van's co-video maker, Lyle...
840
00:52:18,301 --> 00:52:22,102
...decided to try and find outwhat Kubrick thought of their video.
841
00:52:22,272 --> 00:52:24,832
He managed to get holdof his telephone number.
842
00:52:25,008 --> 00:52:26,806
VAN:
May I speak to Stanley Kubrick, please?
843
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,645
[WHISPERS]
Long silence.
844
00:52:32,115 --> 00:52:33,674
[IN NORMAL VOICE]
Yes, is he...?
845
00:52:35,585 --> 00:52:36,712
Lyle's just going:
846
00:52:36,887 --> 00:52:38,355
[BABBLING]
847
00:52:38,522 --> 00:52:40,514
I wasn't planning
on actually getting through.
848
00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:44,525
He goes, "Uh, Mr. Kubrick, how are you?"
849
00:52:46,229 --> 00:52:47,857
Fine.
850
00:52:48,031 --> 00:52:51,160
Uh, Mr. Kubrick, we sent you a tape,
Shining Clockwork.
851
00:52:51,334 --> 00:52:55,635
It was a little parody we did
and wanted to know if you received it.
852
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:57,473
Yes.
853
00:52:58,475 --> 00:53:01,206
And he goes,
"Well, what did you think of it?"
854
00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:05,042
It was interesting.
855
00:53:05,749 --> 00:53:08,241
It was--
It was just like one-word answers.
856
00:53:08,418 --> 00:53:10,444
He said, "Well,
what are you working on next?"
857
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:13,886
He goes, "I have some things."
858
00:53:14,724 --> 00:53:17,489
And at that point,
Lyle kind of got the idea.
859
00:53:17,661 --> 00:53:20,995
Okay, we're stalkers, obviously.
We better hang up.
860
00:53:21,164 --> 00:53:24,134
"Well, very nice talking to you.
Uh, take care." You know?
861
00:53:24,301 --> 00:53:26,600
And it was just that.
That was the conversation.
862
00:53:26,770 --> 00:53:29,604
Considering the context
of where he was at the time.
863
00:53:29,773 --> 00:53:31,571
When you say death threats
and everything...
864
00:53:31,741 --> 00:53:34,609
...I can see where he may
have missed the humor...
865
00:53:34,778 --> 00:53:37,805
...and just caught the menacing...
866
00:53:37,981 --> 00:53:41,213
...so no wonder he was a little,
uh, short with us...
867
00:53:41,384 --> 00:53:43,717
...and figured we were stalking him,
you know?
868
00:53:49,025 --> 00:53:52,189
RONSON: I've been coming to theKubrick house for five years on and off...
869
00:53:52,362 --> 00:53:56,424
...because that's how long it takesto look through a thousand boxes.
870
00:53:56,666 --> 00:54:01,798
I suppose the closer you get to an enigma,the more explicable it becomes.
871
00:54:01,972 --> 00:54:05,636
Even the crazy seeming stuff,like the filing of the fan letters...
872
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:10,679
...by the town from which they came,makes sense after a while.
873
00:54:10,847 --> 00:54:17,117
He thought, uh, "I may need a spy.
I may need an agent in Albuquerque."
874
00:54:17,287 --> 00:54:20,086
- And so he had a name and number.
RONSON: Well, we're thinking about--
875
00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:22,158
You know,
they might be showing The Shining...
876
00:54:22,325 --> 00:54:25,318
...at the Albuquerque Odeon.
877
00:54:25,495 --> 00:54:27,726
Yeah, he'd want you to go down
and check out the sound...
878
00:54:27,897 --> 00:54:29,695
...or check out the print or whatever.
879
00:54:29,866 --> 00:54:33,769
Or it could be something
entirely different.
880
00:54:33,937 --> 00:54:35,098
- Okay.
- Um....
881
00:54:35,272 --> 00:54:39,573
But he saw those as potential
kind of agents in the field.
882
00:54:39,743 --> 00:54:41,871
You know, Stanley's irregulars.
883
00:54:42,045 --> 00:54:44,207
- It's very thoughtful.
- Yeah.
884
00:54:45,515 --> 00:54:48,485
RONSON:
It's been nine years since Kubrick died.
885
00:54:48,652 --> 00:54:51,144
The estate is a very quiet place...
886
00:54:51,321 --> 00:54:56,453
...but then one day in 2007,the silence is broken.
887
00:54:59,462 --> 00:55:02,193
The boxes are leaving.
888
00:55:05,268 --> 00:55:08,761
RONSON: How are you feeling, Bernd?
- Well, it's today, isn't it?
889
00:55:11,274 --> 00:55:12,606
- Pretty good.
- Four-three-five.
890
00:55:12,776 --> 00:55:14,369
RONSON:
This is Bernd Eichhorn.
891
00:55:14,544 --> 00:55:17,446
He's a German archivist who's beenliving up at the Kubrick house...
892
00:55:17,614 --> 00:55:20,743
...for the past four years,archiving the boxes for the family.
893
00:55:20,917 --> 00:55:21,941
MAN:
Five-four-two.
894
00:55:22,118 --> 00:55:23,848
RONSON:
He's the only person other than me...
895
00:55:24,020 --> 00:55:27,320
...and the family to have livedwith these boxes for that long.
896
00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:30,289
RONSON: Do you feel like your children
are going off to university?
897
00:55:30,460 --> 00:55:34,056
Not really university.
They're leaving home forever.
898
00:55:35,265 --> 00:55:37,564
[MEN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
899
00:55:38,601 --> 00:55:42,038
I mean, when they go to university, they
come back to clean their dirty clothes...
900
00:55:42,205 --> 00:55:45,607
...but they won't come back.
901
00:55:49,446 --> 00:55:53,679
I kept an eye on these boxes
for four years nearly.
902
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,843
- Yes, four years now, so....
- Two-oh-two.
903
00:55:58,221 --> 00:56:03,023
RONSON: For Bernd and me, the stuffin these boxes are puzzles and curiosities...
904
00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:06,288
...but for Christiane,they're something else.
905
00:56:06,463 --> 00:56:12,699
I get very upset at seeing some of his
old things because it's now old.
906
00:56:13,169 --> 00:56:14,831
RONSON:
Do you know what you're moving?
907
00:56:15,004 --> 00:56:18,031
- He's keeping his old gloves.
- Boxes. Ha, ha.
908
00:56:18,808 --> 00:56:22,245
CHRISTIANE:
Also, I find old notebooks...
909
00:56:22,412 --> 00:56:25,075
...because the paper's old
and dusty and yellow.
910
00:56:25,248 --> 00:56:29,618
They begin to look so sad, you know?
911
00:56:29,786 --> 00:56:31,687
The person is so very dead...
912
00:56:31,855 --> 00:56:33,619
...once the paper is yellow.
913
00:56:33,790 --> 00:56:39,127
So going through somebody's stuff...
914
00:56:39,629 --> 00:56:42,394
...is a very melancholy business.
915
00:56:42,565 --> 00:56:45,626
RONSON: Christiane says it's timeto let go and move on...
916
00:56:45,802 --> 00:56:50,740
...so they've donated the archiveto the University of the Arts, London.
917
00:56:52,575 --> 00:56:57,104
To just throw the stuff away would have
been like burying Stanley again.
918
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,877
It would have been terrifying to just say,
"Okay, I don't need this anymore."
919
00:57:10,326 --> 00:57:14,354
RONSON: The boxes will be housedin a special climate-controlled facility...
920
00:57:14,531 --> 00:57:17,865
...in the Elephant & Castlewhere film students and other students...
921
00:57:18,034 --> 00:57:20,629
...can come and look through themand learn...
922
00:57:20,804 --> 00:57:26,573
...how Kubrick's incredible attentionto detail created images like these.
923
00:58:10,353 --> 00:58:12,322
One of the very last boxes I opened...
924
00:58:12,489 --> 00:58:15,948
...back at the Kubrick housecontained a videotape.
925
00:58:16,493 --> 00:58:21,989
On the tape, Kubrick was addressingthe camera and looking a bit nervous.
926
00:58:22,165 --> 00:58:26,796
The video was filmed by Leon Vitali,who was one of Kubrick's assistants.
927
00:58:26,970 --> 00:58:30,702
It's an acceptance speech,made a few months before he died.
928
00:58:31,307 --> 00:58:33,742
He had been awardedthe D.W. Griffith Award...
929
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:36,812
...by the Directors Guild of America.
930
00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:41,384
He really was a shy man.
He was a shy man, you know?
931
00:58:41,551 --> 00:58:44,146
And to stand up in front of a camera...
932
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,346
...he'd put on a little blue blazer...
933
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:51,393
...and he also had a little bag
where he had a comb and, you know...
934
00:58:51,561 --> 00:58:54,861
...a little mirror and what have you
and called it his little actor's kit.
935
00:58:55,031 --> 00:58:57,967
It was all so sweet.
I mean, you just wanted to hug him.
936
00:58:58,134 --> 00:58:59,762
It was so charming.
937
00:58:59,936 --> 00:59:01,427
Good evening.
938
00:59:01,971 --> 00:59:04,770
I'm sorry not to be able
to be with you tonight...
939
00:59:04,941 --> 00:59:10,073
...to receive this great honor
of the D.W. Griffith Award.
940
00:59:10,246 --> 00:59:15,810
But I'm in London, making Eyes Wide Shut
with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.
941
00:59:16,686 --> 00:59:21,090
At just about this time, I'm probably
in the car on the way to the studio.
942
00:59:21,257 --> 00:59:25,285
RONSON: All this time, I suppose I've beensearching for some kind of Rosebud...
943
00:59:25,461 --> 00:59:29,865
...some individual item in a boxthat contains the essence of Kubrick...
944
00:59:30,033 --> 00:59:34,971
...and I think I found it in a few linesfrom this acceptance speech.
945
00:59:35,138 --> 00:59:40,304
Anyone who has ever been privileged
to direct a film also knows...
946
00:59:40,476 --> 00:59:45,312
...that although it can be like trying to write
War and Peace in a bumper car...
947
00:59:45,481 --> 00:59:47,575
...in an amusement park...
948
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:49,446
...when you finally get it right...
949
00:59:49,619 --> 00:59:53,454
...there are not many joys in life
that can equal the feeling.
950
00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:00,428
RONSON: I think Kubrick knew he hadthe ability to make films of genius...
951
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:03,624
...and to do that,when most films are so bad...
952
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:09,296
...there has to be a method and the methodfor him was precision and detail.
953
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,842
I think these boxescontain the rhythm of genius.
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