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I like supernatural,
I like monsters...
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"Alien" was the first movie
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that I legitimately thougt
I had a disease afterward.
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John Carpenter's "The Thing"
is the greatest monster movie
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ever made.
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The world of "A Quiet Place"
felt very real.
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Even an audience member,
what you're drawn in with
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is that you can't make
a sound.
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I don't think of King Kong
as a monster
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because you love him.
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The real monsters are
those bastards shooting him.
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It's a complete metaphor
for the tribulations
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of the black male
in American white society.
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Monsters are a different
thing to different people.
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Some people are afraid
of that huge ugly monster,
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and some people are afraid
of the existential monster.
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But if you can't kill it,
well, there's no real story.
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Oh!
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Horror is a big tent
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with room for a circus
full of attractions.
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Aah!
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Outrageous slashers...
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Apocalyptic comedies...
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Cringe inducing body horror...
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But many of us
first came to the genre
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for the monsters.
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Aah!
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When you're a kid,
you want monsters,
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and the more monsters
the better,
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and if they've got zippers
up their back,
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that doesn't matter
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as long as they're...
as long as they're monsters.
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Later you get
a little bit more discerning,
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and you start to realize maybe
the less you see the monster,
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the scarier he might be.
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There may be
no better example
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of the power of
slowly revealing a monster
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than Ridley Scott's "Alien."
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"Alien" was the first movie
I saw
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that I legitimately thought
I had a disease afterwards.
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It made me so incredibly
anxious and uncomfortable.
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It was all about the mouth
inside the mouth.
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That shiny slick chrome dome
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with the mouth that comes out.
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Krikik!
Chhhk!
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Pfft!
Ugh.
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Get out of the room!
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"Alien" grew out
of a film called "Dark Star"
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made by two promising
USC film students,
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John Carpenter
and Dan O'Bannon.
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O'Bannon took
his comedic premise,
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bedraggled astronauts
doing battle with a monster
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in a beaten up spaceship,
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and turned it into one of
the scariest screenplays
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of all time.
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"Alien" tells the story
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of a commercial starship crew
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diverted from their mission
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by a mysterious order
from their employers
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known only as The Company.
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Seems she has intercepted a
transmission of unknown origin.
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She got us up to check it out.
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A transmission?
Out here?
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Yeah.
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The film's main
characters
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are beleaguered
Captain Dallas,
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no nonsense Warrant Officer
Ripley,
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and Ash, the science officer
with a hidden agenda.
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They come upon these eggs
on a planet,
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and while exploring,
one of them is infected.
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The creature,
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which would come to be known
as a facehugger,
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you know, has attached itself
to his face,
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nobody knows what's going on,
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and then of course,
all hell breaks loose.
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Good God.
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The crap's gonna eat through
the hull.
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The performances
in that movie are phenomenal.
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I mean, the famous
chestburster scene,
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it is... I think the reason
it's so potent
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is because of the lead up to it
feels so natural,
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making it feel so familiar
to you.
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The food ain't that bad, man.
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You've been in a restaurant,
you've been in a diner,
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you've seen somebody,
maybe someone started choking,
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or someone has a heart attack.
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That panic, it taps into that,
and then it takes it into,
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"What if a thing burst out
of the..."
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It takes it to
this other level,
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which is, um, so brilliant.
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Aah!
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Oh!
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Oh, God!
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It's obviously this kind
of perverse
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gender reversed
birth scene, right?
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The crew learns
the hard way that,
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an insect,
the monster undergoes
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a dramatic metamorphosis,
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and to their bosses,
it's a valuable commodity.
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They have no way
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of understanding
what they're up against.
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The corporation is hiding it
from them.
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The only person on the crew
who understands
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is the... the robot,
the AI guy, you know,
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whose lying the whole time.
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The company views
its employees
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as expendable, but...
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the creature,
which is not even a person
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or being of any kind,
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is more valuable
than the people
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that they have employed.
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There is an explanation
for this, you know?
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"Alien's" dark view
of labor relations
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was a challenge
to the status quo,
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as was the film's disturbing
production design
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which powerfully associated
sex with death.
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H.R. Giger's
biomechanical designs
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played on the audience's
deepest sexual anxieties.
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There's this Freudian
term "Overdetermination."
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An object in a dream
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may have 15, 20,
1,000 different meanings.
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"Alien" is probably
the... the greatest example
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of a movie
that's overdetermined
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in every possible direction,
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because you have
this space ship
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that is basically shaped like
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the lower half
of a woman's body
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with this vast vaginal
opening in it,
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and inside this vaginal
opeing are these eggs
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that pop open and reveal
these marauding penises
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that impregnate people
through their mouths
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and make them burst open
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and give birth to further
marauding penises.
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This is the essence
of overdetermination.
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There's...
How do you pick this apart?
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The film's sexual politics,
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subversive for its time,
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are embodied in the figure
of Ripley,
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played by "Alien's" breakout
star, Sigourney Weaver.
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"Alien," 1979,
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had a female hero.
An unexpected female hero.
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- Who gets to go into the vent?
- I do.
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No.
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Ridley Scott sets up
the movie
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where Dallas is the hero
until Dallas is killed.
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Wait, the other way!
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Dallas?
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So that movie
completely flips
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in a way most movies couldn't
even have imagined back then.
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Ripley becomes the iconic hero.
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By the end,
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only Ripley is able to escape
the doomed spaceship.
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But the greatest test of
her heroism is yet to come.
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I think it is one of
the most terrifying scenes
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in any movie
is that last part of "Alien."
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When she's alone
in the... in the escape pod,
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she's gonna go to sleep,
it's gonna be fine,
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and then she realizes
the alien's in there,
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and that it's in the wall.
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Aah!
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It's like getting in your car
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and realizing there's
a big python in the backseat,
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and you turn around,
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and the thing just starts
to kinda uncoil,
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and at some point,
it's gonna realize
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I'm in... in the car with it.
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And this
is not gonna be good.
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What do I do?
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You know, it's just one
of those wonderful, like,
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so well-conceived moments
of horrific suspense.
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And what a beautifully
paced film.
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It was so slow
and patient and quiet
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and still,
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and uh, always that...
that trembling horror
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beneath the surface.
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One alien
trapped on one spaceship
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is frightening enough...
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But what if
a horde of alien monsters
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overran Earth?
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Monsters from outer
space invading planet Earth.
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They've been
a staple of horror movies
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since the 1950s.
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And just when you
think it's all been done...
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someone comes along
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and breathes new life
into the genre.
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Someone like John Krasinski
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with his wildly
successful film,
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"A Quiet Place."
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The plot of "A Quiet Place"
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is that a new
invasive predatory species
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has attacked the human race.
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And these new creatures
hunt us
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and have exterminated,
probably most of us
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and they have done it
through sound.
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So the only way humans
are going to survive
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is if they stay quiet,
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and we follow a family
which is trying to survive
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on the fringes of the planet,
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trying to carve out
an existence in a farmhouse
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in a world where
we are no longer
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the top of the food chain.
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You're immediately thrown
into this world
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where you got John Krasinski,
Emily Blunt, and their family
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who are just...
They've got a ritual now.
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Like, they have a ritual
to their day to day life,
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and I think the movie
does it so brilliantly
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showing you they only
have to step on
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these parts of the road,
they can't step on that.
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It's such an immersive film,
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that what...
even as an audience member,
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what you're drawn in with is
that you can't make a sound.
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Even the people
eating popcorn next to you
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are making you jump.
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What I admire so much
about "A Quiet Place"
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is that everything that happens
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and the whole... the whole setup
of the movie is... is organic.
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The idea of sound
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being the enemy really.
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So having a deaf character
in the movie is genius
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because conflict
is immediately established.
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For much of the film,
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the monsters
are only seen at a distance.
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They're mysterious
and unstoppable.
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When you can't see
them clearly,
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your imagination goes to work.
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What must they be like?
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How revolting are they?
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"A Quiet Place" creature,
at the end of the day,
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was an extremely fast,
you know,
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a blur of...
of just limbs going by.
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So we looked at all sorts
of creature forms,
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proportions, to try and find
the right one for John.
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I saw those elements
that he happened to like,
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these long attenuated
front legs
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and kinda like that hyena
low squat with the hind legs.
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To survive,
the film's heroes
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have to find
the monsters' hidden weakness.
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There needs to be
an Achilles' heel.
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If you can't kill it, then
well, there's no real story.
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The Achilles' heel
of this creature
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was the fact that it was
a giant ear.
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Having this Achilles' heel
allowed there to be a way
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to have a narrative arc
that we have this discovery,
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and we have a weapon now
to hopefully take them down.
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And there's such
an emotional charge at the end
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when Emily Blunt
and her daughter
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discover how to take
these things out.
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I saw the movie
at South by Southwest
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and when she cocks
that shotgun,
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the entire audience
lost their minds
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because what Krasinski
did so well
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is just take you on
a very strong emotional journey
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and made it a great
creature feature as well.
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"A Quiet Place" had
a message about humanity
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that is now more relevant
than ever.
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What will save us in the end
from destroying ourselves
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is our ability to adapt.
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Most species cannot do that.
We can adapt to a new paradigm
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especially when survival
is on the line.
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The aliens
in "A Quiet Place"
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were forces
of unstoppable evil.
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But one of the most famous
monsters of all time
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is neither good nor evil...
he's simply Kong.
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He was a king
in the world he knew,
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but he comes to you now
a captive.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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I give you, Kong,
the eighth wonder of the world!
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From his star making
first appearance in 1933...
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To his latest incarnation
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as an enormous
hairy superhero...
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King Kong has captured
the imagination
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of every monster lover.
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What explains
his enduring appeal,
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and why, despite
its dated special effects,
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is the original "King Kong"
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still considered one of
the greatest monster movies
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of all time?
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The original 1933 Kong is...
it's the Beatles.
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You know?
It's Elvis Presley, it's...
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This is what this is.
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This is the best version
of this thing.
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The story is simple.
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A movie producer takes
a film crew
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to an uncharted
tropical island
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and discovers
the ultimate special effect.
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The towering
ape-like monster
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the natives call Kong.
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We came here
to get a moving picture,
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and we found something
worth more
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than all the movies
in the world.
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He captures Kong
and takes him to New York
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intending to exploit him
for profit.
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Kong escapes but is undone
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by his affection
for a dazzling starlet.
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In the early 1930s, no one had
ever seen anything like it.
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"King Kong" was a smash.
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Even though
it was made in 1933,
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the effects,
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the stop-motion animation
of the King Kong character
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by Willis O'Brien is just
really incredibly entertaining.
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You know,
he fights a giant snake.
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He fights an Allosaurus.
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He fights pterodactyl.
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There's all kinds
of great shots
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of people being crushed
by King Kong's foot.
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He's eating people.
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Aah!
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He's destroying things.
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So it's really a movie
that really delivered.
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There was something dark
about it.
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The black and white
just makes it otherworldly,
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and it's the weird sexual edge
of it
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with Kong and,
you know, Ann Darrow.
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None of the other movies
ever came near it.
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When you look at
the white woman in peril,
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which was such a big deal
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back in the era
when "King Kong" was made,
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this idea black male energy
as a menace
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and as a menace specifically
to white women,
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and "King Kong,"
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it seems kind of obvious that
there are racial undercurrents.
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It's complete metaphor
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for the tribulations
of the black male
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in American white society.
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Ah!
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I know a lot of people
watched "Inglourious Basterds"
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and after that card game,
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people went back,
and they rewatched the film
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in a way
that they never had before.
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I'm sure there's quite
a few subtextual writers
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who've written about it
before "Basterds."
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I'm not saying that you were
the first one
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to write about it.
- Yeah, yeah.
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But you were the first one to
put in a pop culture movie...
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- Put it in a pop culture...
- That has nothing to do
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with King Kg
or subtextual slavery.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You're just watching
this war movie,
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and suddenly you get
this nugget of information
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that really stuck with
a lot of people.
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Kong of 1933
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was created
using stop-motion animation.
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Small figurines
were fabricated, posed,
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and photographed one frame
at a time,
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by cinematic pioneer
Willis O'Brien.
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The true auteur
of "King Kong"
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is Willis O'Brien.
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Because if you look at
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the original posters
of "King Kong,"
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Kong is far more a monster
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and like, he has teeth,
that like...
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almost like
a saber-toothed tiger.
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- Yeah, canine teeth, yeah.
- The canine, rrr!
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Willis got rid of all
of the monstrous touches,
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and the whole idea
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was to make him
as human as possible,
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and so we respond to Kong,
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not as monster,
but as a true character.
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That is why
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that movie not... not just
a movie about a giant monkey.
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It's a character that has
survived since the '30s
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as a pop cultural icon.
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"King Kong" was so iconic
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that no one dared
to remake it
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until maverick producer
Dino De Laurentiis
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mounted a production
in the mid-1970s.
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My relationship
with King Kong is...
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started really with...
with the '70s "King Kong"
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with Jeff Bridges
and Jessica Lange.
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That was amazing to me
as a kid.
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"King Kong" is mostly played
by Rick Baker
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who is an incredible makeup
artist.
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One of the great guys
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and built this incredible
ape suit
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and really played
the character of Kong.
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He wore the mask, and
of course, the eyes wre his
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with contact lenses, and
I think that was really key.
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You know, everything else,
the facial movements,
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all of that was done
via animatronics.
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In 2005,
director Peter Jackson
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released a lavish remake
of "King Kong"
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using photorealistic
digital effects.
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I had the time of my life
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working on
Peter Jackson's "King Kong."
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It was his, like, love letter
to this old masterpiece.
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Jackson's Kong
was in a way
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played by another man
in a suit...
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a motion capture suit worn
by actor Andy Serkis.
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Serkis's performance
was painted over by a computer
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then placed
in digital environments.
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The technology had changed,
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but the story followed
the same tragic arc.
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I don't think of King Kong
as a monster
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because you love him.
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He's... he's got... he's got
a sweetness to him.
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You kind of root for him,
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00:22:17,212 --> 00:22:20,715
and the real monsters are
those bastards shooting him.
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Well, gentlemen,
the airplanes got him.
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Oh, no.
It wasn't the airplanes.
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It was beauty killed the beast.
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Fly, fly!
Three...
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00:22:35,730 --> 00:22:38,275
But no monster with good
box office truly dies.
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00:22:47,826 --> 00:22:50,704
"Kong on Skull Island."
Like, I watched it,
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00:22:50,745 --> 00:22:52,348
and I thought, "These fight
scenes when he's fight...
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00:22:52,372 --> 00:22:54,332
are so spectacular..."
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00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:01,923
"But I feel like I don't care
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00:23:01,965 --> 00:23:03,485
that I'm watching it
at the same time."
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00:23:06,261 --> 00:23:08,263
Like, it looks incredible,
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00:23:08,305 --> 00:23:10,807
but I think it just looks
so incredible
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00:23:10,849 --> 00:23:13,935
that it's, you know,
it's kinda like...
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sometimes you see
an old black and white photo
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that's out of focus,
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00:23:17,731 --> 00:23:18,833
and there's just
something about it.
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Each remake of it comes out
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and within ten years
it is made obsolete.
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Because all their special
effects have moved on,
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00:23:28,742 --> 00:23:30,493
and now
it's a whole different thing.
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But the original "King Kong"
always will be a go-to
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to both film fans,
children seeing the movie,
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anything.
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It took decades
for other giant creatures
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to challenge King Kong's place
on the monster throne.
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When they came,
they came in droves.
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The Japanese hae
a word for them...
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Kaiju.
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Giant monsters.
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Oversized and unstoppable,
the spawn of the atomic age
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00:24:18,959 --> 00:24:22,420
have rampaged across movie
screens for nearly 70 years.
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00:24:26,132 --> 00:24:30,762
You know the atomic bomb
brought World War Il to an end,
430
00:24:30,804 --> 00:24:33,431
but on one level, it didn't.
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00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:40,105
It was just the beginning
of new anxieties
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00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:42,440
and new fears
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00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:44,901
and the prospect of an even
more terrifying war to come.
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This was where
the very new and original
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kinds of, uh, fright films
of the 1950s
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00:24:52,158 --> 00:24:54,619
came from... atomic anxieties.
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00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:58,540
Five, four, three,
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two, one.
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To Japanese audiences,
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the nightmarish imagery
of Ishiro Honda's "Godzilla"
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00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:17,142
was a jarring reminder
of a national trauma.
442
00:25:19,436 --> 00:25:21,438
It was made
just after nine years
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00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:24,482
after atomic bombs leveled
the cities of Hiroshima
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and Nagasaki.
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The film begins
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00:25:34,451 --> 00:25:35,511
when an H-bomb test
rouses Godzilla...
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00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,248
A radioactive monster
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00:25:40,290 --> 00:25:42,709
addicted to mass destruction.
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00:25:42,751 --> 00:25:45,253
Haunted scientist,
Dr. Serizawa,
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00:25:45,295 --> 00:25:48,256
has invented a device
that could stop the monster
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00:25:48,298 --> 00:25:50,300
but he's afraid his invention
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00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:52,093
will be turned into
another super weapon.
453
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,437
It was a very somber film,
454
00:26:02,479 --> 00:26:03,772
and there was nothing campy
455
00:26:03,813 --> 00:26:05,523
about that
very first Godzilla film.
456
00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:08,401
It's a very
disturbing film, even today.
457
00:26:08,443 --> 00:26:12,030
In the end, Serizawa
kills the monster and himself
458
00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:15,075
taking his lethal invention
to his grave.
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00:26:19,162 --> 00:26:22,665
This was a movie that really
caught the zeitgeist of Japan,
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00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:24,584
postwar Japan,
461
00:26:24,626 --> 00:26:27,337
and it's interesting that none
of the other Godzilla pictures
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00:26:27,378 --> 00:26:29,089
are as serious
as the first one.
463
00:26:32,008 --> 00:26:35,929
They're all kind of stepping
on tanks, you know, basic.
464
00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:39,724
"Godzilla's"
enormous popularity
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00:26:39,766 --> 00:26:42,560
at the box office brought
the monster back to life
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00:26:42,602 --> 00:26:44,312
for a series of entertaining
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00:26:44,354 --> 00:26:46,856
but increasingly
outlandish sequels.
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00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:54,072
With sequel after sequel
469
00:26:54,114 --> 00:26:56,616
and reappearance
after reappearance,
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00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:58,785
uh, Godzilla ultimately became
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00:26:58,827 --> 00:27:01,496
a kind of a creature of...
of fun.
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00:27:04,707 --> 00:27:06,751
Only then to be, uh,
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00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:08,962
resurrected as
a terrifying monster again.
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00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:17,679
So it's like there's
a pendulum swing
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00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,889
with... with monsters.
476
00:27:19,931 --> 00:27:22,642
Godzilla used
the figure of the monster
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00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:25,311
as a stand-in
for manmade disaster.
478
00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:33,111
The same can be said
of "Cloverfield."
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00:27:36,197 --> 00:27:38,592
"Cloverfield" is probably one
of my favorite monster movies
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00:27:38,616 --> 00:27:39,617
of recent memory.
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00:27:41,578 --> 00:27:44,873
Take "Godzilla" but filter it
through a found footage movie
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00:27:44,914 --> 00:27:48,168
and make it feel very grounded
and feel very real.
483
00:27:49,878 --> 00:27:51,838
"Cloverfield"
tells the story
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00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,840
of a group of friends
trying to survive
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00:27:53,882 --> 00:27:56,467
a giant monster attack
o New York City.
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00:28:02,182 --> 00:28:05,768
The shaky handheld footage
is unmistakably similar
487
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:08,479
to the videos shot during
the terrorist attacks
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00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:10,732
of September 11th, 2001.
489
00:28:13,776 --> 00:28:17,280
The Cloverfield monster
was an all CGI creation
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00:28:17,322 --> 00:28:19,824
conceived by
producer J.J. Abrams
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00:28:19,866 --> 00:28:22,202
and designed by
producer Neville Page.
492
00:28:22,243 --> 00:28:25,121
J.J. didn't really specify
at the beginning anything
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00:28:25,163 --> 00:28:28,958
other than he wanted it
to be large and terrifying.
494
00:28:33,087 --> 00:28:38,301
It's a newborn,
and this infant is horrified
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00:28:38,343 --> 00:28:41,387
and afraid of this new world
that's going on around him,
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00:28:41,429 --> 00:28:44,599
and that gave us motivation
to crash into buildings.
497
00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:46,309
As it's turning around,
it's clumsy.
498
00:28:46,351 --> 00:28:49,520
It's just starting to develop
its ability to walk.
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00:28:49,562 --> 00:28:51,773
They just hit!
They hit it with...
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00:28:51,814 --> 00:28:54,192
Oh, my God!
501
00:28:54,234 --> 00:28:56,527
Tapping into
the memories of the chaos
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00:28:56,569 --> 00:28:58,571
of the 9/11 attacks
503
00:28:58,613 --> 00:29:00,615
grounded "Cloverfield"
in real life horror.
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00:29:00,657 --> 00:29:02,867
Oh my God.
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00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:06,746
And it gave
audiences a safe way
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00:29:06,788 --> 00:29:09,582
to deal with national trauma.
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00:29:09,624 --> 00:29:10,893
As a film maker,
as a storyteller,
508
00:29:10,917 --> 00:29:12,627
writer, or whatever it is,
509
00:29:12,669 --> 00:29:16,047
you will be fed
with the emotions
510
00:29:16,089 --> 00:29:18,675
of the world you live in
at the time,
511
00:29:18,716 --> 00:29:20,885
and it will come out somehow
creatively.
512
00:29:20,927 --> 00:29:22,929
Definitely the horror movies
in general
513
00:29:22,971 --> 00:29:25,556
and possibly also monsts
more specifically
514
00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:28,059
are a product of their world.
515
00:29:33,106 --> 00:29:34,899
In the paranoid world
516
00:29:34,941 --> 00:29:36,651
of John Carpenter's
"The Thing,"
517
00:29:36,693 --> 00:29:39,237
anyone can be a monster
in disguise.
518
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:40,738
Aah!
519
00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:50,164
In the early days of movies,
520
00:29:50,206 --> 00:29:52,834
monsters were distorted
versions of humans,
521
00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:56,254
actors concealed
under incredible makeup.
522
00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:59,632
By the 1950s,
523
00:29:59,674 --> 00:30:02,427
the state of the art was
the full body monster suit
524
00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:05,805
as well as the giant creatures
made out of papier-mâché.
525
00:30:10,852 --> 00:30:15,273
In the 1980s, there was
another seismic shift.
526
00:30:15,315 --> 00:30:17,900
New materials
let special effects artists
527
00:30:17,942 --> 00:30:21,195
upgrade the rubber monster
suits with robotic parts
528
00:30:21,237 --> 00:30:23,364
leading to amazing creations
529
00:30:23,406 --> 00:30:25,908
like Stan Winston's
"Pumpkinhead."
530
00:30:29,579 --> 00:30:33,124
And the queen mother
in James Cameron's "Aliens."
531
00:30:36,294 --> 00:30:38,129
The era's crowning achievement
532
00:30:38,171 --> 00:30:40,340
was John Carpenter's
"The Thing"...
533
00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:45,762
What many consider
534
00:30:45,803 --> 00:30:48,181
the greatest monster movie
of all time.
535
00:30:48,222 --> 00:30:51,809
12 men stationed in
an Antarctica weather base
536
00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:54,187
find themselves under siege
537
00:30:54,228 --> 00:30:56,314
by a shapeshifting monster.
538
00:30:56,356 --> 00:31:00,276
It infiltrates the base
disguised as a friendly Husky,
539
00:31:00,318 --> 00:31:03,237
but this is a very bad dog.
540
00:31:08,076 --> 00:31:10,912
The creature effects
were so mind blowing
541
00:31:10,953 --> 00:31:13,081
and so outrageous
542
00:31:13,122 --> 00:31:16,667
because there were no rules
to the monster.
543
00:31:20,046 --> 00:31:22,548
So the first time that
the dog goes into the kennel
544
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:26,052
and splits open and just starts
turning into the...
545
00:31:26,094 --> 00:31:28,554
I didn't even know where
to look or what to think.
546
00:31:31,682 --> 00:31:34,811
Special effects
wizard Rob Bottin
547
00:31:34,852 --> 00:31:37,397
created an
ever-changing monster.
548
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:42,485
An alien shape-shifter
that absorbed bits and pieces
549
00:31:42,527 --> 00:31:44,237
of life forms
from around the galaxy
550
00:31:44,278 --> 00:31:47,240
and can imitate
anything it touches.
551
00:31:48,825 --> 00:31:50,201
What's great about that film
552
00:31:50,243 --> 00:31:51,553
and the creature designs
in "The Thing"
553
00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:54,038
is the fact that
554
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,332
it's trying to evolve
in a very short period of time,
555
00:31:56,374 --> 00:31:58,960
and each version,
it's a bit of a mess.
556
00:32:08,386 --> 00:32:11,389
And that's also what lends
itself to be so horrifying
557
00:32:11,431 --> 00:32:14,183
because if it came out as
a fully resolved creature,
558
00:32:14,225 --> 00:32:16,644
I don't think that would've
been anywhere near as scary
559
00:32:16,686 --> 00:32:19,689
as these mutations that
you felt the pain of it,
560
00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:21,441
even an alien,
561
00:32:21,482 --> 00:32:23,359
that it's assimilating
these people.
562
00:32:23,401 --> 00:32:26,070
You felt the pain that it's not
quite figured out how to be,
563
00:32:26,112 --> 00:32:28,030
uh, fully resolved.
564
00:32:32,285 --> 00:32:34,287
Trapped in a nightmare,
565
00:32:34,328 --> 00:32:36,873
the men are consumed
by fear and paranoia.
566
00:32:39,625 --> 00:32:41,085
Any one of them
567
00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:42,670
could be
the monster in disguise.
568
00:32:42,712 --> 00:32:45,673
It all kinda deals with
the fear of conformity
569
00:32:45,715 --> 00:32:47,550
but also trusting people.
570
00:32:47,592 --> 00:32:49,886
I think that's a thing
that a lot of people fear,
571
00:32:49,927 --> 00:32:51,429
you know?
572
00:32:51,471 --> 00:32:53,240
Trust is a tough thing
to come by these days.
573
00:32:53,264 --> 00:32:56,350
"The Thing," for a film
574
00:32:56,392 --> 00:32:59,228
that has some of the best
monster effects of all time,
575
00:32:59,270 --> 00:33:00,980
even by today's standards,
576
00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:03,149
still the most tense scene
577
00:33:03,191 --> 00:33:04,942
revolves around them
giving a blood test.
578
00:33:04,984 --> 00:33:08,696
You see, when a man bleeds,
579
00:33:08,738 --> 00:33:10,948
it's just tissue.
580
00:33:12,909 --> 00:33:14,327
But blood
from one of you things
581
00:33:14,368 --> 00:33:16,162
won't obey when it's attacked.
582
00:33:16,204 --> 00:33:20,291
Because you haven't seen,
like, a massive, um,
583
00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:21,810
shapeshifting monster
in your lifetime,
584
00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:23,586
but everybody's cut
their thumb.
585
00:33:23,628 --> 00:33:25,463
Everybody knows
what that feels like.
586
00:33:30,343 --> 00:33:33,346
They're seeing
who's the monster,
587
00:33:33,387 --> 00:33:37,141
and that's a beautiful
analogy of, you know, life,
588
00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:39,101
like, you know,
the banality of evil.
589
00:33:39,143 --> 00:33:41,395
You could... the monster
could be sitting right here.
590
00:33:41,437 --> 00:33:44,106
Ted Bundy
looked like a normal guy.
591
00:33:44,148 --> 00:33:46,150
Palmer now.
592
00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:48,653
The climax is in such
a great shock
593
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,030
where they're holding
the Petri dish.
594
00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:52,716
It wasn't until I watched it
for the third time
595
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:54,408
that I realized,
596
00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:56,178
"Oh, this is like a fake hand
that he's holding,"
597
00:33:56,202 --> 00:33:58,704
and it's a fake hand because
a monster is gonna go whaaaa
598
00:33:58,746 --> 00:33:59,914
out of the Petri dish.
599
00:33:59,956 --> 00:34:02,124
We'll do you last.
600
00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:09,590
I've always been a big
proponent of special effects
601
00:34:09,632 --> 00:34:12,385
that are practical,
that happen on the set.
602
00:34:16,055 --> 00:34:20,518
In "The Thing" the chest
that splits open
603
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,521
really sort of
amazed everybody
604
00:34:23,563 --> 00:34:25,231
standing around.
605
00:34:25,273 --> 00:34:26,816
- Clear.
- Clear.
606
00:34:30,903 --> 00:34:34,073
As a result,
you get a reaction I think,
607
00:34:34,115 --> 00:34:36,200
from the... from the characters
and the actors
608
00:34:36,242 --> 00:34:38,202
that is a lot more significant
609
00:34:38,244 --> 00:34:40,204
than if they were just looking
at a green object.
610
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:44,875
For an aggressively
violent film,
611
00:34:44,917 --> 00:34:47,795
"The Thing" ends on a note
of quiet paranoia...
612
00:34:47,837 --> 00:34:49,755
two men about to die,
613
00:34:49,797 --> 00:34:53,009
neither one sure
if the other is the monster.
614
00:34:53,050 --> 00:34:55,553
Won't last long though.
615
00:34:55,595 --> 00:34:57,888
Neither will we.
616
00:34:57,930 --> 00:35:00,891
"The Thing"
is now considered a classic,
617
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:04,729
but the film's horrific
imagery did not go over well
618
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:06,397
in 1982.
619
00:35:06,439 --> 00:35:09,108
Well, "The Thing" had
the unfortunate bad luck
620
00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:12,069
to come right after "E.T.,"
621
00:35:12,111 --> 00:35:14,405
and people were looking
for lovable aliens,
622
00:35:14,447 --> 00:35:17,742
and they certainly didn't
get any in "The Thing."
623
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,123
I just remember how
devastated everybody was
624
00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:26,751
that the picture didn't...
not only didn't it open,
625
00:35:26,792 --> 00:35:29,003
it got bad reviews.
626
00:35:29,045 --> 00:35:30,880
People were saying, you know,
627
00:35:30,921 --> 00:35:32,923
"This is... this is
practically pornography,
628
00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:34,342
this is so violent."
629
00:35:34,383 --> 00:35:36,177
Honestly, it's stood
the test of time
630
00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:38,405
and now, you know, people have
a chance to appreciate it.
631
00:35:38,429 --> 00:35:40,848
Aah!
632
00:35:40,890 --> 00:35:43,559
Today
the ever-improving quality
633
00:35:43,601 --> 00:35:45,728
of digital effects
makes it possible
634
00:35:45,770 --> 00:35:48,189
to bring even stranger
monsters to the screen...
635
00:35:50,358 --> 00:35:52,127
Drawn from the
darkest parts of our psyches.
636
00:35:57,657 --> 00:35:59,533
Stop following me!
637
00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:01,744
I'm gonna...
I'm gonna get you outta here.
638
00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:10,461
Two recent films,
"It Chapter Two..."
639
00:36:13,506 --> 00:36:17,593
And "Scary Stories
to Tell in the Dark..."
640
00:36:17,635 --> 00:36:20,596
Are the state of the art
of modern monster movies.
641
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,159
Both tell
supernatural stories
642
00:36:24,183 --> 00:36:26,268
about human fear,
643
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:29,355
and both blend practical
effects with computer graphics
644
00:36:29,397 --> 00:36:31,190
to push creature design
to the limit.
645
00:36:34,402 --> 00:36:37,154
I know it's kind of in vogue
to sort of crap on CG
646
00:36:37,196 --> 00:36:38,906
and just go to practical,
647
00:36:38,948 --> 00:36:40,425
but not all practical effects
look great, you know?
648
00:36:40,449 --> 00:36:42,618
So it is finding the balance
between the two,
649
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:44,495
but when you solely rely
on one or the other,
650
00:36:44,537 --> 00:36:46,747
I do think they kind of
need each other.
651
00:36:46,789 --> 00:36:49,083
Adapted from
the popular children's books,
652
00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:51,836
"Scary Stories to Tell
in the Dark"
653
00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,506
follows a group of teenagers
who break into a haunted house
654
00:36:55,548 --> 00:36:57,883
and discover a book
that seems to write itself.
655
00:36:57,925 --> 00:37:00,469
Oh, my God.
656
00:37:00,511 --> 00:37:02,346
Over the next five days,
657
00:37:02,388 --> 00:37:04,390
the unlucky teens fall victim
658
00:37:04,432 --> 00:37:07,560
to a rogues' gallery
of monsters.
659
00:37:07,601 --> 00:37:10,813
It has all these
amazing creatures
660
00:37:10,855 --> 00:37:14,442
that Stephen Gammell drew
for the books,
661
00:37:14,483 --> 00:37:17,445
and we just really made sure
662
00:37:17,486 --> 00:37:20,364
that what we put in the movie
was that.
663
00:37:22,283 --> 00:37:24,869
We didn't want
to reinvent the wheel here.
664
00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:27,079
One of the most
innovative monsters
665
00:37:27,121 --> 00:37:30,624
in the film
is the Jangly Man...
666
00:37:30,666 --> 00:37:34,587
a creature that assembles
and reassembles itself.
667
00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:41,302
The Jangly Man was really
tough because we had to, like,
668
00:37:41,343 --> 00:37:43,721
he was gonna be so twisty
and body parts
669
00:37:43,763 --> 00:37:45,681
and coming together
and doing all this and that.
670
00:37:45,723 --> 00:37:48,642
So the combination
of real effects,
671
00:37:48,684 --> 00:37:51,103
an amazing contortionist,
672
00:37:51,145 --> 00:37:53,606
and some digital enhancements.
673
00:37:55,399 --> 00:37:58,402
To create what we were hoping
for... an iconic face
674
00:37:58,444 --> 00:38:01,655
and design,
then make that come alive,
675
00:38:01,697 --> 00:38:03,783
and there was a lot
of challenges to that.
676
00:38:05,826 --> 00:38:07,995
The monsters
in "Scary Stories"
677
00:38:08,037 --> 00:38:11,040
are all grotesque embodiments
of teenage anxiety.
678
00:38:11,081 --> 00:38:12,875
Aah, aah!
679
00:38:12,917 --> 00:38:14,102
From being suffocated
680
00:38:14,126 --> 00:38:15,126
by a mother's love...
681
00:38:17,296 --> 00:38:18,881
To being disfigured
682
00:38:18,923 --> 00:38:20,841
by the world's
angriest pimple.
683
00:38:26,472 --> 00:38:28,641
Confronting
the fears of youth
684
00:38:28,682 --> 00:38:31,852
is also the central theme
of "It Chapter Two,"
685
00:38:31,894 --> 00:38:35,856
the sequel to Andy
Muschietti's 2017 adaptation
686
00:38:35,898 --> 00:38:37,650
of Stephen King's "It."
687
00:38:39,151 --> 00:38:41,111
Give me fat boy.
688
00:38:43,489 --> 00:38:46,617
The now adult
members of the Losers Club
689
00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:48,744
return to the town
of Derry, Maine
690
00:38:48,786 --> 00:38:51,622
to do final battle against
their childhood nemesis.
691
00:38:51,664 --> 00:38:55,125
Your dirty little secret...
692
00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:57,127
Pennywise the clown.
693
00:38:57,169 --> 00:38:59,880
One-nuh...
694
00:38:59,922 --> 00:39:02,466
Bill Skarsgard
once again
695
00:39:02,508 --> 00:39:04,718
plays the demonic
shapeshifter Pennywise.
696
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,929
You're supposed to say three.
697
00:39:06,971 --> 00:39:09,265
With the help of CGI,
698
00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:12,142
his body constantly
twists and morphs
699
00:39:12,184 --> 00:39:16,272
into terrible new shapes
that match his victims' fears.
700
00:39:18,107 --> 00:39:19,942
I go practical
as much as... as I can,
701
00:39:19,984 --> 00:39:21,485
but there's a limit,
702
00:39:21,527 --> 00:39:23,404
and like, a lot of people
complain about CG,
703
00:39:23,445 --> 00:39:25,281
but CG can be great
704
00:39:25,322 --> 00:39:28,367
if you bring
an original design
705
00:39:28,409 --> 00:39:31,036
and it's, like,
executed properly.
706
00:39:33,247 --> 00:39:34,832
I tend to draw a lot.
707
00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:40,296
All the creatures that appear
in my movies, I sketch first.
708
00:39:42,756 --> 00:39:45,467
One creature effect
calls back to a famous monster
709
00:39:45,509 --> 00:39:46,969
of the movies.
710
00:39:47,011 --> 00:39:48,387
I love horror movies.
711
00:39:48,429 --> 00:39:50,055
I love... I grew up
loving monster movies
712
00:39:50,097 --> 00:39:52,391
and loving those kind of...
those kind of films,
713
00:39:52,433 --> 00:39:54,351
and I was like,
well, if you have a, you know,
714
00:39:54,393 --> 00:39:56,520
head that turns into a spider,
715
00:39:56,562 --> 00:39:57,747
I mean, that's from
"The Thing."
716
00:39:59,732 --> 00:40:01,650
And Andy was like,
"Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah."
717
00:40:01,692 --> 00:40:03,277
And we talked about it,
and I was like,
718
00:40:03,319 --> 00:40:06,405
- I should say...
- You gotta be kidding.
719
00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:09,491
And I remember we watched it
on my phone,
720
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:11,368
you know, to make sure
we got the line right,
721
00:40:11,410 --> 00:40:13,454
and I said it
in the right cadence.
722
00:40:13,495 --> 00:40:15,956
You gotta be
kidding.
723
00:40:22,421 --> 00:40:24,256
You're a weak old woman.
724
00:40:24,298 --> 00:40:25,966
At the epic conclusion
725
00:40:26,008 --> 00:40:28,218
of "It Chapter Two,"
726
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:30,846
the Losers Club finds
the monster's Achilles' heel,
727
00:40:30,888 --> 00:40:33,849
and they turn their own fears
against him.
728
00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:38,187
That's what both
"It" movies are.
729
00:40:38,228 --> 00:40:41,065
It's about people
living in fear
730
00:40:41,106 --> 00:40:45,486
and what the horrible things
we do as... as human beings.
731
00:40:45,527 --> 00:40:48,197
Pennywise is
732
00:40:48,238 --> 00:40:50,407
the representation of fear.
733
00:40:55,871 --> 00:40:57,581
That's why we make movies.
734
00:40:57,623 --> 00:40:59,667
We want to people to see
these movies
735
00:40:59,708 --> 00:41:02,211
and try to understand
736
00:41:02,252 --> 00:41:05,756
that that's the worst thing
we can do, live in fear.
737
00:41:12,805 --> 00:41:14,407
The monsters of the
movies are from outer space...
738
00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:20,479
The creations of magic...
739
00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:22,940
or the products
of science gone wrong...
740
00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:29,613
But whatever they look like
and wherever they're from,
741
00:41:29,655 --> 00:41:32,700
at heart they are
all walking, crawling,
742
00:41:32,741 --> 00:41:36,120
or slithering representations
of our very human fears...
743
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,791
The fears
we must face and defeat
744
00:41:40,833 --> 00:41:42,793
less they consume us all.
56598
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