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♪ Does it come from East to West, y'all? ♪
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♪ body free
and a body less, y'all ♪
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♪ come again
just to start fresh and ♪
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♪ once again to find a home ♪
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♪ in the moment ♪
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♪ of the meantime ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ where you come from? ♪
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♪ where you going? ♪
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♪ ♪
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Ma'am, there's no drinking
allowed on the beach.
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Since when?
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Your I.D., please.
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Sorry, I've been away.
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Just empty it out.
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You're around
decent people now.
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You got to follow the rules.
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Uhh!
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Another sunny day
at the beach.
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I count five stab wounds
so far,
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plus a mastectomy scar
on the chest.
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Breast cancer.
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Poor woman brought
her tamoxifen to the beach.
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Poor woman also did time.
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You call it in?
Yeah.
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Stopped her about an hour before
for drinking on the beach.
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Jane Lee Rayburn.
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You know who she was, right?
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Echo Park tribe--
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the cult who killed
those families in the '70s.
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She was released
after a 30-year stretch.
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Looks like
she left in a hurry.
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"Achieving serenityin troubled times."
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Well, she's got it now.
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♪ Law & Order - LA 1x02 ♪
Echo Park
Original Air Date on October 6, 2010
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-- Sync by elderman --
-- for www.addic7ed.com --
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Coroner says
she bled out on the spot.
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Blade was short
and curved.
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50 feet from a beach
full of citizens.
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None of them looking
in the right direction.
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Got some nice video.
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Lots of skin, but not one shot
of our victim.
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Baby Jane Lee Rayburn.
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She was a 17-year-old runaway
in 1979.
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That was the tenth anniversary
of the Manson Family murders,
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and the Echo Park tribe
celebrated
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by killing six people
in a picnic.
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Killed a family of five
the next night
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in a house in Silver Lake.
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I was nine when it happened.
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My parents wouldn't let me
out on my own
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until they made arrests.
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11 victims--
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you'd think that would rate
life without parole.
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It did...
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For the tribe's leader,
Denis Alan Watson.
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He's still in the can.
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Baby Jane was paroled
last year
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on compassionate grounds.
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This scroll...
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It was written in blood.
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Pull up the photos
of the Echo Park crime scenes.
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Click that one.
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Hmm.
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Looks like somebody waited
30 years for payback.
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Cancer wasn't quick enough.
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It's unbelievable.
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I talked to Jane
just last week.
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I kept telling her,
"be careful."
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But she was all la-di-da--
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"the universe
will take care of me."
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Well, the universe
isn't that forgiving.
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No kidding.
They even threatened me
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for representing her
at her parole.
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Ms. Rayburn get
any threats lately?
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She didn't say,
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but sometimes I'd get one
for her on my voice mail.
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Comes with the territory,
you know,
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taking Baby Jane Rayburn
on as a client.
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My dad was her lawyer
at the original trial,
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and I expected her
to live up to her rep--
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a manipulative sadist.
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Instead, I found a sad woman
full of remorse.
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Yeah, terminal illness
will do that to you.
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Since she's been out,
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she's been speaking
to high-school kids,
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girls at risk.
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This was
from two weeks ago.
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I hope your fancy friends
in Beverly Hills
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who give you money to defend
scum like Baby Jane
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are real proud of you.
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It makes me sick
that she's living
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in some cozy apartment
in Venice,
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buying drugs at the corner CVS
with her medi-cal card.
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She should die in agony,
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just like
the people she killed.
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Henry Franklin, police!
Open up. We have a warrant!
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Clear.
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All clear.
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"The only survivor
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"was the Davis'
four-year-old son Henry,
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"who witnessed the killings
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while hiding
in the bedroom closet."
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Henry Das--
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Franklin must be
his adopted name
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guy's been reliving it
for 30 years.
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All right,
00 a.M.--Yoga.
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1:00 p.M.-
Ocean Bay Medical Clinic."
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Jane Rayburn's
daily schedule.
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15 minutes for 20 bucks.
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Come on, ladies.
These hands are magic.
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That's what they all say.
Mr. Franklin.
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My permit's on the chair.
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We can talk
on the way to the car.
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This is about
Baby Jane Rayburn, right?
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It's okay.
I've been expecting you.
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Hands on your head.
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Ye, I got her.
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I got by Jane.
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I finally killed her!
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I finally paid her back,
that sick bitch!
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Did what the State
of California couldn't.
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I put the death penalty
on Baby Jane.
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I'm only sorry
I can't do the same
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to the rest of the tribe.
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You know, I spent four hours
hugging my mother,
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trying to wake her up...
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After they were gone.
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We know, Henry.
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We saw the newspaper clips
at your apartment.
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Why don't you tell us
about the day she was killed?
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Okay, it was, ...
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It was a Thursday, so...
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She was
at her medical clinic on 4th.
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I was trying to keep
an eye on her.
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And then I followed her
to the beach.
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The knife...
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Do you always carry it,
or was this the first time?
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Always. I was waiting
for my moment.
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Where did you get the knife?
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Kitchen drawer--
just a regular knife.
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Like a steak knife?
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Yeah, like that--
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regular steak knife.
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I think maybe I've...
Said enough.
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I guess he didn't get the memo
about a short, curved blade.
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He's not reading
like the doer.
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Or so he'd like us to think.
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Well, he'd like us to think
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he had the balls
to avenge his family.
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Well, until we're sure
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what game Mr. Franklin
is playing,
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see if you can put him
at the scene.
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No, I've never seen
any of them before.
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Did Ms. Rayburn mention
anyone following her
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to her appointments?
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Following? No.
There was something else?
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Couple weeks ago,
she asked me
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if the tamoxifen
she was taking
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could cause
auditory hallucinations.
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I told her it wasn't
a known side effect.
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She was hearing things?
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Whistling--
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she thought someone
was whistling at her.
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I can't see who's doing it.
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That's what freaked her out.
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Maybe it's some kind
of signal,
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something to do
with the Echo Park tribe.
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Well, we know where to find
the people who can tell us.
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Baby would have
been better off
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dying in the prison hospital.
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I never even go
to the parole hearings anymore.
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No one ever
has a good thought for us.
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Can't imagine why.
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Hey...
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Those people in Echo Park
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and in the house,
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they were a bunch
of life-sucking germs.
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You're not gonna guilt me
about that now.
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It's water under the bridge
now, Ms. Ricks.
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It's not why we're here.
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Right.
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Who killed Baby Jane,
the psycho bitch?
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We'd like to play you
something.
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What the hell?
Where'd you get that?
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You recognize it?
It's some kind of signal?
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Yeah.
Smart cop.
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It's a signal
we had in the tribe
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when we were running
in the dark.
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Now, where'd you get it?
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It was on a video
taken at the beach
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just before Jane was killed.
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Oh, man.
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'S den.
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He got her.
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Denis Watson--
why would he hurt Jane?
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She never testified
against him.
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That was before.
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Jane got all soft.
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That's why they let her out.
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Maybe Denis thought
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she was going
to turn on him.
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Sally, Watson's doing life
in the ding-wing
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at Vacaville.
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You don't know
what he can do.
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You don't know
how powerful he is.
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You might even be working
for him
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without even realizing it.
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I can't be in here
with you anymore.
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Guard!
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Guard!
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You got to get me
out of here.
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Well, partner...
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We're in the ding-wing now.
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Hmm.
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You must be crazier than me
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to think I had anything to do
with that killing.
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In case you didn't notice,
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I'm in a hole.
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See, nobody has anything
to say to me.
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And I don't got anything
to say to anybody.
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Well, that may be, Denis,
but if you did pull it off,
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if you reached out to somebody
on the outside,
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it'd speak to your power.
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I have no power.
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I've been telling you people
that for 30 years.
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So you say.
You listen to this.
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This was taken
just before Jane was murdered.
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That's nice.
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"Nice"?
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That somebody remembers.
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Or maybe somebody
killed Baby Jane
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to impress me.
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Either way,
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it doesn't make me
responsible.
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Ideas are like children.
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They get where they want.
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Last chance, Denis.
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If you contracted this killing,
we will find out.
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Then it's no more
psych Ward for you.
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In case you didn't notice,
the Death penalty's back on.
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That's all of it
for the last year.
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Fan mail--
that's touching.
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Watson used to get five times
this much every month.
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How many of these
has he read?
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None. He lost his
mail privileges 10 years ago.
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He can correspond
with his lawyer
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and a brother in Virginia,
but that's it.
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We're gonna need copies
of all these.
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You got to wonder--
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how did Watson turn these girls
into killers,
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when it practically
took a S.W.A.T. team
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to get your kids to bed?
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He's a better con man
than me.
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Con man?
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Some of his fans
call him a prophet.
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Just another word
for a con man.
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Partner, you are
one blaspheming son of a bitch.
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Hi, baby.
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Hey.
Hi, TJ.
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Hi.
Mwah!
262
00:12:14,219 --> 00:12:16,354
The kids go to bed all right?
Like a charm.
263
00:12:16,422 --> 00:12:20,390
He's lying.
I know he is.
264
00:12:20,458 --> 00:12:22,792
I might have something here.
265
00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:24,627
"I'm talking
about one particular
266
00:12:24,695 --> 00:12:26,692
"J-Cat bitch in the pound,
267
00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,460
needs to get hot-walked."
268
00:12:28,528 --> 00:12:30,695
Okay, pound is prison.
269
00:12:30,763 --> 00:12:32,330
But dogs don't get
hot-walked.
270
00:12:32,397 --> 00:12:33,831
Horses do--
it's how they cool them down
271
00:12:33,898 --> 00:12:35,165
when they
come off the track.
272
00:12:35,233 --> 00:12:37,100
"Someone should stop
baby from barking
273
00:12:37,168 --> 00:12:39,202
before she makes
a mess for you."
274
00:12:39,270 --> 00:12:40,503
Baby, Baby Jane--
275
00:12:40,571 --> 00:12:42,004
sounds like they're trying
to provoke Watson
276
00:12:42,072 --> 00:12:43,505
into having her killed.
Where was it sent from?
277
00:12:43,573 --> 00:12:45,674
Postmark is Westwood,
a year ago,
278
00:12:45,742 --> 00:12:47,809
but the lingo is straight
from the state pen.
279
00:12:47,877 --> 00:12:50,945
Could be somebody that was on
the inside with Jane wrote it,
280
00:12:51,013 --> 00:12:52,413
had it smuggled
out to Watson.
281
00:12:52,481 --> 00:12:55,849
Maybe Vacaville can lift
a print off the original.
282
00:12:58,653 --> 00:13:00,253
I visit a lot of prisons.
283
00:13:00,321 --> 00:13:03,089
I interview inmates who've asked
the innocence coalition
284
00:13:03,157 --> 00:13:04,491
to review their cases.
285
00:13:04,558 --> 00:13:06,059
You're a lawyer?
Law student--
286
00:13:06,127 --> 00:13:07,627
second year.
287
00:13:07,695 --> 00:13:11,796
Any inmates ever give yo
a letter to mail for them?
288
00:13:11,864 --> 00:13:13,164
What's this about?
289
00:13:13,231 --> 00:13:15,332
I have a right to know.
290
00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,567
We're investigating
the murder
291
00:13:16,635 --> 00:13:18,736
of Jane Lee Rayburn
last week in Venice.
292
00:13:18,804 --> 00:13:20,571
She was a member
of the Echo Park tribe.
293
00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:22,106
Rachel, is everything okay?
294
00:13:22,174 --> 00:13:23,741
Sir, this
is a private matter.
295
00:13:23,809 --> 00:13:25,309
If it's
about her activities
296
00:13:25,377 --> 00:13:27,177
while working
for the innocence coalition,
297
00:13:27,245 --> 00:13:28,477
then it's my business.
298
00:13:28,545 --> 00:13:30,312
I run the coalition.
I'm the lawyer of record.
299
00:13:30,379 --> 00:13:32,480
Prints found on a letter
mailed to a murder suspect
300
00:13:32,547 --> 00:13:34,415
matched the prints
Ms. Forester gave
301
00:13:34,482 --> 00:13:36,183
when she got her
Department of Corrections pass.
302
00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:37,484
What was in the letter?
303
00:13:37,552 --> 00:13:42,288
A murder solicitation
addressed to Denis Alan Watson.
304
00:13:42,355 --> 00:13:45,523
Were Rachel's prints
on the letter or the envelope?
305
00:13:45,591 --> 00:13:46,857
The envelope.
306
00:13:46,925 --> 00:13:48,592
So no reason to assume
she knew what was in the letter.
307
00:13:48,660 --> 00:13:50,526
We still need the name of
the inmate who gave it to her.
308
00:13:50,594 --> 00:13:52,061
I'm advising her
not to answer that.
309
00:13:52,129 --> 00:13:53,328
You know corrections
keeps a record
310
00:13:53,396 --> 00:13:54,696
of all the inmates
you visited?
311
00:13:54,764 --> 00:13:55,997
Yes.
312
00:13:56,065 --> 00:13:59,800
I guess you've got a lot
of hard work ahead of you.
313
00:14:02,570 --> 00:14:04,203
I got a Maura Dillon.
314
00:14:04,271 --> 00:14:07,405
Rachel Forester visited her
four times up in Chino.
315
00:14:07,473 --> 00:14:09,340
Before that,
Dillon was in Chowchilla
316
00:14:09,408 --> 00:14:11,544
for three years...
317
00:14:11,611 --> 00:14:14,280
Same time as Jane Rayburn.
318
00:14:14,348 --> 00:14:15,714
What was she in for?
319
00:14:15,782 --> 00:14:17,749
Uh, arson--
killed her two kids.
320
00:14:17,817 --> 00:14:19,217
She did six years,
321
00:14:19,285 --> 00:14:20,985
but last spring
the innocence coalition
322
00:14:21,053 --> 00:14:24,155
got her conviction overturned
for prosecutorial misconduct.
323
00:14:24,222 --> 00:14:25,789
She lives in Mar Vista,
324
00:14:25,857 --> 00:14:27,324
awaiting a new trial.
325
00:14:27,392 --> 00:14:28,959
Ten-minute drive
from Venice Beach.
326
00:14:29,026 --> 00:14:31,694
We should see
how she's holding up.
327
00:14:34,531 --> 00:14:36,532
I was in the same block
as Jane in Chowchilla.
328
00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,699
I'm sorry she's dead,
329
00:14:37,767 --> 00:14:39,001
but I don't see
what it has to do with me.
330
00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:40,268
We're talking
to everyone who knew her.
331
00:14:40,336 --> 00:14:41,803
Have you been in touch
since you been out?
332
00:14:41,871 --> 00:14:43,638
No, I've had other things
on my mind.
333
00:14:43,706 --> 00:14:44,973
Yeah, we can imagine.
334
00:14:45,041 --> 00:14:46,741
Ye, you can get over
a lot of things.
335
00:14:46,809 --> 00:14:50,311
Losing your children
isn't one of them.
336
00:14:50,379 --> 00:14:52,212
I thought that's
why you were here--
337
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,580
to reinvestigate the fire.
338
00:14:53,648 --> 00:14:56,382
No, ma'am.
How'd you get along with Jane?
339
00:14:56,450 --> 00:14:58,217
Fine...
More than fine.
340
00:14:58,284 --> 00:15:00,318
She was almost
like a mother to me.
341
00:15:00,386 --> 00:15:02,186
I was a mess.
342
00:15:02,254 --> 00:15:03,754
I'd lost my kids.
343
00:15:03,822 --> 00:15:07,057
I was wrongfully convicted.
I didn't belong in prison.
344
00:15:07,125 --> 00:15:08,291
We should tell you,
345
00:15:08,359 --> 00:15:09,626
we've been talking
with Rachel Forester
346
00:15:09,694 --> 00:15:13,930
about a letter she was asked
to mail to Denis Watson.
347
00:15:13,998 --> 00:15:16,167
I know
you're doing your job.
348
00:15:16,235 --> 00:15:18,437
But I will not keep talking
to you without a lawyer.
349
00:15:18,504 --> 00:15:20,105
I already spent
six years in prison
350
00:15:20,172 --> 00:15:21,673
for something I didn't do.
351
00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:23,674
Those are
nasty-looking scars.
352
00:15:26,011 --> 00:15:27,945
They're from the fire...
353
00:15:28,012 --> 00:15:31,081
When I was trying to save
my daughters.
354
00:15:31,148 --> 00:15:32,615
I need to get to work.
355
00:15:32,683 --> 00:15:34,684
Thanks for your time.
356
00:15:38,188 --> 00:15:40,390
Burns from a house fire.
357
00:15:40,457 --> 00:15:43,359
More likely from someone
using her as an ashtray.
358
00:15:43,427 --> 00:15:45,060
Five times
with a cigarette--
359
00:15:45,128 --> 00:15:47,062
that's how they brand
the fresh meat in here.
360
00:15:47,129 --> 00:15:50,731
Any record who did this
to Maura Dillon?
361
00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:53,167
Well, she shared a cell
362
00:15:53,235 --> 00:15:56,403
with, uh, Jane Lee Rayburn
for three years.
363
00:15:56,471 --> 00:15:58,805
Everyone knows what Jane
was like back then.
364
00:15:58,873 --> 00:16:01,073
Like a mother,
according to Maura.
365
00:16:01,141 --> 00:16:03,476
Coming from a woman
who killed her kids,
366
00:16:03,543 --> 00:16:05,177
I take that
with a grain of salt.
367
00:16:05,245 --> 00:16:07,946
Five months in,
Maura filed paper on Jane
368
00:16:08,014 --> 00:16:09,981
for repeated physical
and sexual abuse.
369
00:16:10,049 --> 00:16:11,849
Maura alleged
that Jane "burned her,
370
00:16:11,917 --> 00:16:13,283
"beat her with a bucket,
371
00:16:13,351 --> 00:16:16,219
raped her with a mop
until her uterus bled."
372
00:16:16,286 --> 00:16:17,653
They were cellies
for three years.
373
00:16:17,721 --> 00:16:19,221
Why didn't you
switch them out?
374
00:16:19,289 --> 00:16:21,123
Because a week later,
she withdrew her complaint
375
00:16:21,190 --> 00:16:22,290
and refused a transfer.
376
00:16:22,358 --> 00:16:25,096
Let me see
this complaint she wrote.
377
00:16:25,163 --> 00:16:26,964
Thank you.
378
00:16:32,170 --> 00:16:35,171
Block letters are the same
as the letter to Watson.
379
00:16:35,239 --> 00:16:37,940
And they all spell
probable cause.
380
00:16:38,008 --> 00:16:39,475
Hmm.
381
00:16:39,543 --> 00:16:41,610
These photos--
382
00:16:41,678 --> 00:16:44,046
guilty conscience or denial?
383
00:16:44,113 --> 00:16:48,049
Either way,
that's not our case.
384
00:16:48,117 --> 00:16:50,218
These plants were cut
with a pruning knife,
385
00:16:50,285 --> 00:16:52,019
probably within the last week.
386
00:16:52,087 --> 00:16:54,087
You spend
way too much time gardening.
387
00:16:54,155 --> 00:16:56,022
Maybe you should too.
388
00:16:56,090 --> 00:16:59,625
Didn't we say our weapon
was a short, curved blade?
389
00:17:01,394 --> 00:17:03,394
I don't have
a knife like that.
390
00:17:03,462 --> 00:17:05,629
I can't even picture
what you're describing.
391
00:17:05,697 --> 00:17:08,065
We searched your house.
392
00:17:08,132 --> 00:17:11,669
We didn't find the knife,
but we did find this...
393
00:17:11,736 --> 00:17:14,037
On your computer--
394
00:17:14,105 --> 00:17:16,206
a picture
your neighbor took.
395
00:17:16,274 --> 00:17:19,342
So where's the knife now?
396
00:17:20,577 --> 00:17:22,544
I don't know.
397
00:17:22,612 --> 00:17:24,045
What's it matter?
398
00:17:24,113 --> 00:17:26,081
It matches the knife
used to kill Jane.
399
00:17:26,148 --> 00:17:28,550
No.
400
00:17:28,618 --> 00:17:29,952
This isn't fair.
401
00:17:30,020 --> 00:17:31,820
This can't be happening
to me again.
402
00:17:31,888 --> 00:17:33,855
Maura, we know what Jane
did to you in prison.
403
00:17:33,923 --> 00:17:35,490
We have your complaint.
404
00:17:38,761 --> 00:17:41,529
You're--you're twisting
things all around.
405
00:17:41,597 --> 00:17:43,864
And that photo,
you faked it,
406
00:17:43,932 --> 00:17:45,733
just the same way
they faked evidence
407
00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,568
to make it look like
I killed my girls!
408
00:17:47,636 --> 00:17:49,336
Maura, let's stay focused
on Jane.
409
00:17:49,404 --> 00:17:51,705
Ms. Dillon's lawyer is here.
410
00:17:51,773 --> 00:17:53,107
All right, party's over.
411
00:17:53,175 --> 00:17:54,841
My client's invoking.
412
00:17:54,909 --> 00:17:56,443
Fine with us.
We're placing her under arrest.
413
00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:58,410
What?
Oh, God, no.
414
00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:00,111
No.
415
00:18:00,179 --> 00:18:02,047
This isn't fair.
416
00:18:02,114 --> 00:18:04,082
This isn't fair!
417
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:06,117
It's okay, Maura.
418
00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:14,721
Her...
419
00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:16,055
I know her.
420
00:18:16,122 --> 00:18:18,090
She's a cop.
421
00:18:18,158 --> 00:18:20,925
She's one of the cops
who framed me.
422
00:18:20,993 --> 00:18:24,262
She had me in a room
just like that one.
423
00:18:24,329 --> 00:18:25,563
Is this your desk?
424
00:18:25,630 --> 00:18:26,930
Yeah.
425
00:18:26,998 --> 00:18:28,732
And the woman in the photo?
That's my wife--
426
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,234
Detective Casey Ryan, retired.
427
00:18:31,302 --> 00:18:33,803
Ryan. Well, then you've got
a problem, Detective.
428
00:18:33,870 --> 00:18:35,604
Detective Ryan
was one of the cops
429
00:18:35,672 --> 00:18:37,406
who sent my client to prison
six years ago
430
00:18:37,473 --> 00:18:40,308
on a coerced confession.
431
00:18:50,646 --> 00:18:52,380
I wasn't even the primary
on the case.
432
00:18:52,655 --> 00:18:54,356
Four other detectives talked
to her after I did.
433
00:18:54,424 --> 00:18:57,158
It's insane that we're even
talking about this.
434
00:18:57,226 --> 00:18:59,360
Well, she's getting
a new trial,
435
00:18:59,428 --> 00:19:01,128
on account the D.D.A.
In the first trial
436
00:19:01,196 --> 00:19:02,763
was sleeping with the judge.
437
00:19:02,831 --> 00:19:04,798
You didn't hear?
438
00:19:04,866 --> 00:19:08,600
You know I stopped reading
the news after I had the baby.
439
00:19:08,668 --> 00:19:10,969
So nobody coerced her
to get a confession?
440
00:19:11,037 --> 00:19:13,037
Is she saying
somebody did?
441
00:19:13,105 --> 00:19:15,272
Doesn't matter what she said.
I don't want you getting hurt.
442
00:19:15,340 --> 00:19:16,606
Maura killed her girls
443
00:19:16,674 --> 00:19:18,708
because they were keeping her
from a rich boyfriend.
444
00:19:18,776 --> 00:19:19,775
She confessed,
445
00:19:19,843 --> 00:19:21,544
and the arson report
backed it up.
446
00:19:21,611 --> 00:19:23,011
Hmm.
End of story.
447
00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:25,680
Mm-hmm.
448
00:19:25,748 --> 00:19:28,016
End of story.
449
00:19:31,687 --> 00:19:33,754
You're off to a great start,
Mr. Dekker--
450
00:19:33,822 --> 00:19:35,956
a case fabricated
by the husband of a cop
451
00:19:36,024 --> 00:19:37,991
who helped frame my client
six years ago.
452
00:19:38,059 --> 00:19:40,226
Will the D.D.A. who played
footsies with the judge
453
00:19:40,294 --> 00:19:41,460
be helping you?
454
00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:43,962
That gentleman's long gone
from our office.
455
00:19:44,030 --> 00:19:46,731
Ms. Stanton and I will be
prosecuting your client,
456
00:19:46,798 --> 00:19:47,732
by the book,
457
00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:49,300
from arraignment to conviction.
458
00:19:49,368 --> 00:19:50,801
Don't get
ahead of yourselves.
459
00:19:50,869 --> 00:19:51,836
Item one--
460
00:19:51,903 --> 00:19:54,038
a statement
from your law student
461
00:19:54,105 --> 00:19:55,439
admitting Ms. Dillon
asked her to mail
462
00:19:55,507 --> 00:19:57,474
a murder solicitation
to Watson.
463
00:19:57,541 --> 00:19:59,742
Item two--a lab report
464
00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:01,644
matching a hair found
on the victim
465
00:20:01,712 --> 00:20:03,212
to your client's hair.
466
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,981
Anytime you want
to discuss a plea,
467
00:20:05,048 --> 00:20:06,048
raise your hand.
468
00:20:06,116 --> 00:20:08,750
Not a chance--
take that lab report...
469
00:20:08,818 --> 00:20:10,985
Let's say Maura and Jane
did meet that day.
470
00:20:11,053 --> 00:20:12,987
The hair was transferred
when they hugged.
471
00:20:13,055 --> 00:20:15,522
No. Enough.
No more lies. I--
472
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,427
Okay, let's, uh, concede
for the moment
473
00:20:21,495 --> 00:20:23,329
that you might be able
to make the leap
474
00:20:23,397 --> 00:20:25,264
and prove that my client
killed Jane Lee Rayburn.
475
00:20:25,332 --> 00:20:26,665
More of a hop than a leap.
476
00:20:26,733 --> 00:20:28,066
Let me give you a preview
477
00:20:28,134 --> 00:20:29,834
of the story
the jury's going to hear.
478
00:20:29,902 --> 00:20:31,402
Six years ago,
479
00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:33,637
after losing her children
in a terrible fire,
480
00:20:33,705 --> 00:20:35,172
my grief-stricken client
was coerced
481
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,573
into a false confession,
482
00:20:36,641 --> 00:20:38,375
then wrongfully convicted
483
00:20:38,442 --> 00:20:40,109
in a trial
in which the prosecution
484
00:20:40,177 --> 00:20:41,744
was literally in bed
with the judge.
485
00:20:41,812 --> 00:20:43,612
No bearing on this case.
486
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,214
Except that it led
to my client
487
00:20:45,281 --> 00:20:47,749
being locked up in a cell
with a cold-blooded sadist
488
00:20:47,817 --> 00:20:51,785
who tortured and violated her
in every way known to man.
489
00:20:51,853 --> 00:20:54,788
She suffered incalculable
psychological trauma.
490
00:20:54,856 --> 00:20:57,791
The State of California
turned your client
491
00:20:57,858 --> 00:20:59,595
into a killer?
492
00:20:59,663 --> 00:21:01,397
Juries don't go for that.
493
00:21:01,464 --> 00:21:03,698
They will.
They won't have a choice.
494
00:21:03,766 --> 00:21:06,767
I'm gonna take
the system apart.
495
00:21:08,502 --> 00:21:10,936
Maura Dillon has one thing
in her favor.
496
00:21:11,004 --> 00:21:12,538
No jury's going to care
too much
497
00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:14,472
about what happened
to Jane Rayburn.
498
00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:16,007
Murder is murder.
499
00:21:16,075 --> 00:21:19,743
We need to kick out the main leg
of Dillon's defense--
500
00:21:19,811 --> 00:21:21,812
that she was wrongly convicted
for the Arn.
501
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,213
You want us
to reopen the case?
502
00:21:23,281 --> 00:21:24,814
Not you, Detective.
503
00:21:24,882 --> 00:21:26,615
You've got a conflict.
504
00:21:29,385 --> 00:21:30,786
The initial
arson investigation
505
00:21:30,853 --> 00:21:33,924
was conducted
by a deputy fire marshal
506
00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:38,596
named Abner Featherstone.
507
00:21:38,663 --> 00:21:40,264
The truth...
508
00:21:40,332 --> 00:21:43,200
And I don't care
whose toes you step on.
509
00:21:46,537 --> 00:21:49,104
I've investigated
nearly 800 suspicious fires.
510
00:21:49,172 --> 00:21:51,106
Most of them turn out
to be arson.
511
00:21:51,174 --> 00:21:53,608
That one
was a classic example.
512
00:21:53,676 --> 00:21:55,343
Show us?
513
00:21:58,446 --> 00:21:59,546
Here...
514
00:21:59,614 --> 00:22:02,415
Pour patterns left
by liquid accelerants,
515
00:22:02,483 --> 00:22:04,083
uh, burn trailer
to the kids' bedroom.
516
00:22:04,151 --> 00:22:06,385
The living room, you mean,
where the kids were found.
517
00:22:06,453 --> 00:22:08,420
Uh, right,
the living room.
518
00:22:08,488 --> 00:22:10,989
Uh, there was a v-shaped
soot pattern
519
00:22:11,056 --> 00:22:12,623
pointing to where
it started in the hall.
520
00:22:12,691 --> 00:22:14,324
You say most of the cases
you investigate
521
00:22:14,392 --> 00:22:15,459
turn out to be arson.
522
00:22:15,526 --> 00:22:17,493
Um, isn't the average
in the trade
523
00:22:17,561 --> 00:22:19,227
about 50%?
524
00:22:19,295 --> 00:22:22,797
%, uh, 60%--
that area.
525
00:22:22,865 --> 00:22:24,165
And when you did
the Dillon case,
526
00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:26,735
how many fires
had you investigated?
527
00:22:26,802 --> 00:22:29,037
Well, that was, uh,
pretty early on.
528
00:22:29,105 --> 00:22:32,207
Uh, but, uh, I must have done
at least a dozen by then.
529
00:22:32,275 --> 00:22:34,010
I'm due in Encino.
530
00:22:34,077 --> 00:22:37,580
Um, thanks for lunch.
531
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,428
So much for the great
Abner Featherstone.
532
00:22:53,495 --> 00:22:54,929
You see that?
533
00:22:57,660 --> 00:23:00,228
Black soot smudges?
Exactly.
534
00:23:00,295 --> 00:23:02,162
Featherstone said
he found brown stains
535
00:23:02,229 --> 00:23:03,863
where Maura Dillon poured
accelerant on the floor.
536
00:23:03,931 --> 00:23:06,465
But accelerant doesn't leave
stains like that.
537
00:23:06,533 --> 00:23:09,001
Rust and charred debris
mixed with water do.
538
00:23:09,069 --> 00:23:11,803
From firemen's hoses.
539
00:23:11,871 --> 00:23:13,538
Featherstone made a mistake.
540
00:23:13,606 --> 00:23:15,573
Featherstone made
100 mistakes.
541
00:23:15,641 --> 00:23:17,108
This fire wasn't arson.
542
00:23:17,176 --> 00:23:20,177
It was caused by a short
in a kitchen appliance.
543
00:23:21,713 --> 00:23:23,580
I don't care how many
arson hotshots you line up.
544
00:23:23,648 --> 00:23:24,814
The woman gave me a statement.
545
00:23:24,882 --> 00:23:26,049
She had details
only the person
546
00:23:26,116 --> 00:23:27,183
who set the fire
could have known.
547
00:23:27,251 --> 00:23:28,751
Details like
the nail-polish remover
548
00:23:28,819 --> 00:23:30,285
she said she used
to start the fire?
549
00:23:30,353 --> 00:23:31,720
Turns out there was
no nail-posh remover.
550
00:23:31,787 --> 00:23:32,787
She mixed up one detail.
551
00:23:32,855 --> 00:23:34,422
Just happens to be
the same detail
552
00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:36,758
Featherstone got wrong
in his preliminary report.
553
00:23:36,825 --> 00:23:38,526
Whoa, whoa, I didn't feed her
any information
554
00:23:38,594 --> 00:23:39,560
from that report.
555
00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:40,828
But maybe
somebody else did.
556
00:23:40,896 --> 00:23:42,230
She was talking
to other detectives
557
00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:43,865
at least six hours
before I came in.
558
00:23:43,932 --> 00:23:46,067
You told us
she confessed to you.
559
00:23:46,135 --> 00:23:47,702
The one who
had the rapport with her
560
00:23:47,769 --> 00:23:49,904
was this young Lady,
Detective Ryan.
561
00:23:49,971 --> 00:23:53,539
After she was done,
Maura was good to go.
562
00:23:53,607 --> 00:23:56,375
You're suggesting
Detective Ryan coached her.
563
00:23:56,443 --> 00:23:58,510
She was the cherry
on the squad
564
00:23:58,578 --> 00:24:00,145
with the most to prove.
565
00:24:00,213 --> 00:24:02,747
Good luck.
566
00:24:02,815 --> 00:24:05,649
So this is
who we're prosecuting--
567
00:24:05,717 --> 00:24:06,717
a grieving mother,
568
00:24:06,785 --> 00:24:08,018
falsely imprisoned,
569
00:24:08,086 --> 00:24:09,886
who killed the mass murderer
570
00:24:09,954 --> 00:24:13,323
who raped and tortured her
for three years.
571
00:24:13,390 --> 00:24:15,758
It's gonna be some rock
to push uphill.
572
00:24:15,826 --> 00:24:18,694
And you get to tell the boss
all about it.
573
00:24:24,466 --> 00:24:27,768
You couldn't just try her
for the Rayburn murder, Hmm?
574
00:24:27,836 --> 00:24:30,970
You had to jam a stick
up a hornet's nest.
575
00:24:31,038 --> 00:24:32,272
She didn't kill her kids.
576
00:24:32,339 --> 00:24:33,940
She didn't belong in prison.
577
00:24:34,008 --> 00:24:35,741
It's better
that we find out now
578
00:24:35,809 --> 00:24:37,943
than in the middle of trial.
579
00:24:38,011 --> 00:24:40,545
We're gonna make this thing
go away.
580
00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:43,014
You're gonna offer Dillon
12 years for manslaughter,
581
00:24:43,082 --> 00:24:45,216
declare victory,
and get out.
582
00:24:45,284 --> 00:24:46,551
What, a slap on the wrist
583
00:24:46,618 --> 00:24:49,119
for a textbook
first-degree murder,
584
00:24:49,187 --> 00:24:52,956
right after we apologize to her
for a wrongful conviction?
585
00:24:53,023 --> 00:24:55,892
No, no, we're not going
to apologize.
586
00:24:55,959 --> 00:24:57,593
No.
587
00:24:57,661 --> 00:24:59,862
The official position
of this office
588
00:24:59,929 --> 00:25:03,031
is that we're considering
refiling the arson case.
589
00:25:03,099 --> 00:25:04,732
In time, people
will forget about it,
590
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,901
and that case will go away.
591
00:25:06,969 --> 00:25:09,770
Whose ass
are we covering here?
592
00:25:09,837 --> 00:25:11,471
It's already public knowledge
593
00:25:11,539 --> 00:25:13,606
that one of the D.D.A.s
from our office
594
00:25:13,674 --> 00:25:15,241
slept with the judge
in that case.
595
00:25:15,308 --> 00:25:17,542
That was not
on my watch, Joe.
596
00:25:17,610 --> 00:25:21,580
I cleaned out
the bad apples.
597
00:25:21,647 --> 00:25:24,082
Look, I'm concerned
about the police department.
598
00:25:24,150 --> 00:25:25,951
They don't need
this black eye,
599
00:25:26,018 --> 00:25:28,019
and we need their support.
600
00:25:28,087 --> 00:25:30,755
So we give Maura Dillon...
601
00:25:30,823 --> 00:25:32,257
What amounts to a walk
602
00:25:32,325 --> 00:25:34,526
for the crime
she did commit.
603
00:25:34,593 --> 00:25:38,129
But we don't exonerate her
for the crime she didn't commit?
604
00:25:38,197 --> 00:25:40,164
That doesn't sound like
good law to me.
605
00:25:40,232 --> 00:25:41,632
It's not.
606
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:43,735
It's good politics.
607
00:25:47,606 --> 00:25:49,874
So they found an expert
to say it was a short.
608
00:25:49,941 --> 00:25:51,308
Who cares?
She confessed.
609
00:25:51,376 --> 00:25:54,211
Mark Buckley
told Stanton and TJ
610
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:55,746
somebody primed her,
611
00:25:55,814 --> 00:25:59,216
said you were alone
in the room with Dillon.
612
00:26:03,388 --> 00:26:07,191
I told TJ it couldn't
have gone down like that.
613
00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:12,029
But you can't be sure?
614
00:26:20,272 --> 00:26:22,572
Is there something
you want to tell me?
615
00:26:24,975 --> 00:26:28,043
You know better
than to ask me that.
616
00:26:29,646 --> 00:26:32,380
I won't be
the only one asking.
617
00:26:40,421 --> 00:26:42,488
I need to check
on the babies.
618
00:26:54,057 --> 00:26:56,491
The offer on the table
is 12 years to life
619
00:26:56,562 --> 00:26:57,595
to a plea of manslaughter.
620
00:26:57,663 --> 00:26:58,663
So generous.
621
00:26:58,730 --> 00:27:00,564
Any chance this has
something to do
622
00:27:00,632 --> 00:27:03,133
with the rumors your office
has a new arson report
623
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,569
clearing my client
in the death of her children?
624
00:27:06,637 --> 00:27:08,771
This isn't about that case.
625
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:10,773
This is
about Jane Lee Rayburn,
626
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,074
whom your client
hunted down
627
00:27:13,142 --> 00:27:15,009
and stabbed 14 times.
628
00:27:15,077 --> 00:27:16,977
Still, we expect
any plea on this case
629
00:27:17,045 --> 00:27:18,512
to include an admission
by your office
630
00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:20,146
that she didn't kill
her kids.
631
00:27:20,214 --> 00:27:22,315
That's not going to happen,
Mr. Roman.
632
00:27:22,382 --> 00:27:24,249
You've heard the offer
in full.
633
00:27:24,317 --> 00:27:25,917
You know...
634
00:27:25,984 --> 00:27:29,286
I didn't kill my children.
635
00:27:29,354 --> 00:27:32,422
I loved them
more than anything!
636
00:27:32,489 --> 00:27:34,823
Maura, let's do this first.
637
00:27:34,891 --> 00:27:36,758
We'd consider eight years
in medium security.
638
00:27:36,826 --> 00:27:38,727
No!
639
00:27:38,795 --> 00:27:40,595
My family...
640
00:27:40,663 --> 00:27:44,200
People have to know
I didn't kill my kids.
641
00:27:46,436 --> 00:27:48,437
Who's gonna tell them?
642
00:27:48,504 --> 00:27:51,305
Maura, let--
let's do this first.
643
00:27:53,308 --> 00:27:55,809
Forget it.
Offer's off the table.
644
00:27:55,876 --> 00:27:58,278
What? Everything?
645
00:27:58,346 --> 00:28:00,180
Everything.
646
00:28:00,247 --> 00:28:02,682
The more I think about it,
647
00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:06,151
the more I realize
a jury needs to decide this.
648
00:28:10,656 --> 00:28:13,257
The lady deserves
her day in court.
649
00:28:13,325 --> 00:28:16,126
I gave you specific
instructions to bury this.
650
00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:18,395
We deserve
our day in court too.
651
00:28:18,463 --> 00:28:22,266
Well, now we know
Roman's defense strategy.
652
00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:24,434
He just served notice
he intends to present evidence
653
00:28:24,502 --> 00:28:25,602
of intimate-partner battering.
654
00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:28,004
Between cellmates
in state prison--
655
00:28:28,072 --> 00:28:29,338
how novel.
656
00:28:29,406 --> 00:28:30,672
And smart.
657
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:32,005
It's worked
for battered women
658
00:28:32,073 --> 00:28:35,074
who claim they killed
their spouse in self-defense.
659
00:28:39,113 --> 00:28:41,380
I got served
when I got home with the kids.
660
00:28:41,448 --> 00:28:43,615
You're a defense witness.
661
00:28:46,585 --> 00:28:49,052
When her lawyer asks you
about the confession,
662
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,556
Dekker won't be able
to stop him.
663
00:28:52,623 --> 00:28:55,424
I know.
I'll do what I have to do.
664
00:28:55,492 --> 00:28:58,226
Meaning what?
665
00:28:58,294 --> 00:29:00,461
I live in the real world.
Yeah, so do I.
666
00:29:00,529 --> 00:29:01,696
All right,
you could get sued.
667
00:29:01,763 --> 00:29:02,997
You could get brought up
on charges.
668
00:29:03,065 --> 00:29:05,867
We could lose everything.
Weave a family.
669
00:29:12,906 --> 00:29:16,141
I'm sorry baby.
I just--I want to protect you.
670
00:29:26,883 --> 00:29:29,651
The people will prove
that miss Dillon
671
00:29:29,719 --> 00:29:32,053
stalked the victim
for weeks
672
00:29:32,121 --> 00:29:34,789
before cornering her
in an underpass
673
00:29:34,857 --> 00:29:37,925
and, with clear premeditation,
674
00:29:37,993 --> 00:29:40,160
stabbing her 14 times.
675
00:29:40,228 --> 00:29:42,229
Ladies and gentlemen,
you will hear evidence
676
00:29:42,296 --> 00:29:44,998
from the defense
about psychological trauma
677
00:29:45,066 --> 00:29:46,967
and abuse.
678
00:29:47,034 --> 00:29:49,102
But the people will show
679
00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:51,872
that this was nothing more
than revenge--
680
00:29:51,939 --> 00:29:54,741
a cold-blooded settling
of accounts
681
00:29:54,809 --> 00:29:58,111
between two ex-cons.
682
00:29:58,179 --> 00:29:59,780
Good morning.
683
00:29:59,847 --> 00:30:03,216
This trial
represents the final act
684
00:30:03,284 --> 00:30:05,785
in a terrifying miscarriage
of justice,
685
00:30:05,853 --> 00:30:08,955
perpetrated on my client
by the State of California.
686
00:30:09,023 --> 00:30:13,460
Terrifying because
it could happen to anyone here.
687
00:30:13,527 --> 00:30:15,862
We will prove that,
after losing her daughters
688
00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:17,897
in a terrible fire,
689
00:30:17,965 --> 00:30:20,667
my client was wrongfully
convicted of those deaths
690
00:30:20,734 --> 00:30:22,402
through police malfeasance
691
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:25,071
and prosecutorial misconduct.
692
00:30:25,139 --> 00:30:29,408
We will show how she was
locked in a cell
693
00:30:29,476 --> 00:30:33,578
with a convicted mass murderer,
who, for the three years,
694
00:30:33,646 --> 00:30:37,148
abused Maura
in ways unimaginable.
695
00:30:37,216 --> 00:30:39,417
We will present
expert testimony that,
696
00:30:39,485 --> 00:30:41,485
as a result of that abuse,
697
00:30:41,553 --> 00:30:43,387
Maura reasonably believed
698
00:30:43,455 --> 00:30:45,756
her life
was in mortal danger
699
00:30:45,824 --> 00:30:47,724
and that she acted reasonably
700
00:30:47,792 --> 00:30:51,696
when she killed Ms. Rayburn
in defense of her life.
701
00:30:55,234 --> 00:30:57,435
The defense
subpoenaed my wife.
702
00:30:57,503 --> 00:30:59,537
I heard. There's nothing
we can do about it.
703
00:30:59,605 --> 00:31:03,007
They're gonna try and
jam her up on the confession.
704
00:31:03,075 --> 00:31:05,810
Can they?
705
00:31:05,878 --> 00:31:08,779
She doesn't know
I'm talking to you.
706
00:31:08,847 --> 00:31:11,849
She's being hung out to dry.
She was a good cop.
707
00:31:18,156 --> 00:31:20,958
The defense calls
Casey Ryan winters.
708
00:31:37,976 --> 00:31:39,543
Sidebar, your honor?
709
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,020
Let's hear it.
710
00:31:49,088 --> 00:31:50,922
Your honor,
we object to this witness
711
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:52,558
on the grounds
of relevancy.
712
00:31:52,625 --> 00:31:54,092
She's a retired
police officer
713
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,761
with no connection
to the Rayburn homicide.
714
00:31:56,829 --> 00:31:59,496
Her testimony is evidence
of the wrongful conviction
715
00:31:59,564 --> 00:32:01,997
that put my client
in a cell with Jane Rayburn--
716
00:32:02,065 --> 00:32:04,265
evidence of the events
that culminated
717
00:32:04,333 --> 00:32:06,200
in her abuse by Ms. Rayburn.
718
00:32:08,503 --> 00:32:10,970
Fine.
I'm gonna allow it.
719
00:32:11,038 --> 00:32:12,772
Swear in the witness.
720
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,348
Raise your right hand.
721
00:32:25,416 --> 00:32:27,350
Your honor...
722
00:32:27,418 --> 00:32:28,585
The people will stipulate
723
00:32:28,652 --> 00:32:31,388
that as a result
of evidentiary mistakes
724
00:32:31,456 --> 00:32:33,891
and prosecutorial misconduct,
725
00:32:33,959 --> 00:32:37,429
Ms. Dillon was wrongly convicted
of the arson,
726
00:32:37,496 --> 00:32:39,631
that she did not kill
her children.
727
00:32:39,698 --> 00:32:42,967
And, further,
if not for that conviction,
728
00:32:43,035 --> 00:32:46,169
she would never have been
imprisoned with Jane Rayburn.
729
00:32:46,237 --> 00:32:48,871
Are you sure you want
to do that, Mr. Dekker?
730
00:32:48,939 --> 00:32:52,207
Yes, absolutely sure,
your honor.
731
00:32:52,275 --> 00:32:55,643
Mr. Roman, do you accept
his stipulation?
732
00:32:55,711 --> 00:32:57,011
Uh, yes, your honor.
733
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,381
I no longer see the relevance
of this witness.
734
00:33:00,448 --> 00:33:02,683
The witness is excused.
735
00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:03,917
Thank you, ma'am.
736
00:33:03,985 --> 00:33:05,952
Your honor, we're going
to need a recess
737
00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:07,053
to line up our next witness.
738
00:33:07,121 --> 00:33:08,054
Granted.
739
00:33:08,122 --> 00:33:10,857
Court will reconvene
at 1:00 P.M.
740
00:33:13,261 --> 00:33:15,530
Though extreme
in its severity,
741
00:33:15,597 --> 00:33:18,467
her abuse was typical
of what these victims suffer,
742
00:33:18,534 --> 00:33:20,502
with one tragic exception.
743
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:22,604
She didn't choose to be
in a relationship
744
00:33:22,672 --> 00:33:24,205
with Jane Rayburn.
745
00:33:24,273 --> 00:33:27,307
The State of California
made that decision for her.
746
00:33:27,374 --> 00:33:28,808
Could you describe
how this abuse
747
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:31,976
affected my client's perceptions
and behavior?
748
00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:34,611
She had depression
and post-traumatic stress--
749
00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:36,813
very common
among abuse victims.
750
00:33:36,881 --> 00:33:39,682
And then the fact that--
that she felt victimized
751
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:41,017
by the system
that put her in prison
752
00:33:41,085 --> 00:33:43,419
convinced her that she only
had herself to rely on
753
00:33:43,487 --> 00:33:44,554
to defend her life.
754
00:33:44,621 --> 00:33:46,755
Is that belief common
among abuse victims?
755
00:33:46,823 --> 00:33:49,725
Many never find a way
to break the cycle of abuse.
756
00:33:49,793 --> 00:33:52,994
Only the healthier people
think to fight back.
757
00:33:57,967 --> 00:33:59,969
Doctor Gouldin,
isn't it true
758
00:34:00,036 --> 00:34:01,871
that the defendant
killed Ms. Rayburn
759
00:34:01,939 --> 00:34:04,040
three years
after the abuse had ended?
760
00:34:04,107 --> 00:34:05,775
It doesn't matter.
761
00:34:05,842 --> 00:34:08,677
The trauma, the fear
can persist for years
762
00:34:08,745 --> 00:34:10,845
after the victims separate
from their abuser.
763
00:34:10,913 --> 00:34:13,079
So in many ways,
Jane Rayburn
764
00:34:13,147 --> 00:34:15,315
sealed her fate
over three years ago.
765
00:34:15,416 --> 00:34:16,783
And it's your opinion
766
00:34:16,850 --> 00:34:18,284
that this fear,
767
00:34:18,351 --> 00:34:20,752
this belief that their life
is in danger,
768
00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:24,523
is what drives abuse victims
to kill their abusers?
769
00:34:24,590 --> 00:34:26,891
Yes, they see it as
the only way to save their life.
770
00:34:26,959 --> 00:34:28,793
That's what drives them?
771
00:34:30,195 --> 00:34:33,030
Thank you, doctor.
772
00:34:33,098 --> 00:34:36,867
When Jane found out
I put in a complaint,
773
00:34:36,935 --> 00:34:39,070
she went into a rage.
774
00:34:39,137 --> 00:34:41,372
She beat me.
775
00:34:41,439 --> 00:34:42,773
She said
she'd have me killed,
776
00:34:42,841 --> 00:34:44,174
no matter where
they put me.
777
00:34:44,242 --> 00:34:45,742
I believed her.
778
00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:48,677
I was scared of Jane
all the time.
779
00:34:48,745 --> 00:34:51,245
And worse than
the rapes and beatings
780
00:34:51,313 --> 00:34:53,247
were the things she said--
781
00:34:53,315 --> 00:34:55,716
terrible things...
782
00:34:55,784 --> 00:34:58,019
About my daughters,
783
00:34:58,086 --> 00:35:00,854
my children in heaven.
784
00:35:00,921 --> 00:35:02,055
After three years,
785
00:35:02,122 --> 00:35:04,423
they transferred me
because of overcrowding.
786
00:35:04,491 --> 00:35:06,492
Jane told me
787
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:08,960
she could always find me.
788
00:35:09,028 --> 00:35:10,195
What, if anything,
789
00:35:10,262 --> 00:35:12,930
changed after you
were released from prison?
790
00:35:12,998 --> 00:35:16,733
I still felt the same.
791
00:35:16,801 --> 00:35:19,536
Everywhere I went, I saw people
who looked like her.
792
00:35:19,604 --> 00:35:22,305
Then I heard
she was already out.
793
00:35:22,373 --> 00:35:24,140
I started getting
panic attacks.
794
00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:26,409
What did you decide to do?
795
00:35:26,477 --> 00:35:30,346
I couldn't wait
for her to come after me.
796
00:35:30,414 --> 00:35:33,649
I had to protect myself...
797
00:35:33,717 --> 00:35:36,519
So I found Jane...
798
00:35:36,586 --> 00:35:40,156
And I followed her.
799
00:35:40,223 --> 00:35:43,492
I killed her
before she could hurt me.
800
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,995
I didn't ask to be put
in a cell with Jane.
801
00:35:47,063 --> 00:35:49,564
I just tried to do
the best I could
802
00:35:49,631 --> 00:35:51,932
to survive.
803
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,567
But it was too much.
804
00:35:53,635 --> 00:35:56,271
I had to save myself.
805
00:35:59,075 --> 00:36:00,209
Your witness.
806
00:36:04,682 --> 00:36:07,917
I am very sorry
for your ordeal, Ms. Dillon.
807
00:36:07,984 --> 00:36:12,086
You mentioned
your children in heaven.
808
00:36:12,154 --> 00:36:13,821
You believe that, don't you?
809
00:36:13,889 --> 00:36:16,891
That your babies are
up in God's house,
810
00:36:16,959 --> 00:36:18,058
looking down on you?
811
00:36:18,126 --> 00:36:20,460
Yes, I do.
812
00:36:20,528 --> 00:36:22,629
I'm sure they are.
813
00:36:22,697 --> 00:36:24,297
You still think about them?
814
00:36:24,365 --> 00:36:26,032
Yes.
815
00:36:26,099 --> 00:36:28,433
Every hour, every day.
816
00:36:28,501 --> 00:36:30,668
You think about the things
you'd say to them
817
00:36:30,736 --> 00:36:34,570
if they were still alive?
818
00:36:34,638 --> 00:36:38,640
I feel like they're here
right now, listening.
819
00:36:38,708 --> 00:36:41,376
You'd try to teach them
to be good people, wouldn't you?
820
00:36:41,444 --> 00:36:43,245
Yes, that's what
mattered to me.
821
00:36:43,312 --> 00:36:46,181
You think of yourself
as a good person, don't you?
822
00:36:46,249 --> 00:36:50,185
A good person who suffered
a great injustice.
823
00:36:50,253 --> 00:36:53,055
Yes.
And so you did.
824
00:36:53,122 --> 00:36:57,526
When you began
following Jane...
825
00:36:57,593 --> 00:36:59,628
She looked very different
826
00:36:59,696 --> 00:37:02,063
from the last time you saw her
three years before,
827
00:37:02,131 --> 00:37:03,198
didn't she?
828
00:37:03,266 --> 00:37:04,499
Yes.
829
00:37:04,567 --> 00:37:05,600
Maybe.
830
00:37:05,668 --> 00:37:07,902
She lost a lot of weight.
831
00:37:07,970 --> 00:37:10,170
Her hair had thinned out.
832
00:37:10,238 --> 00:37:12,539
She was frail.
833
00:37:12,607 --> 00:37:14,774
She had surgery for cancer.
834
00:37:14,842 --> 00:37:17,776
Not the way you
remembered her, was she?
835
00:37:17,844 --> 00:37:19,144
No.
836
00:37:19,212 --> 00:37:20,579
I guess not.
837
00:37:20,647 --> 00:37:22,581
She was very sick
and harmless, wasn't she?
838
00:37:22,649 --> 00:37:25,919
I couldn't be sure
she was harmless.
839
00:37:25,987 --> 00:37:28,857
Well, in the weeks
you followed her,
840
00:37:28,924 --> 00:37:32,327
did you ever see her
get into a fight with anyone
841
00:37:32,395 --> 00:37:34,162
or yell at anybody?
842
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:35,563
No.
843
00:37:35,631 --> 00:37:39,467
She was no threat
to anyone, was she?
844
00:37:39,535 --> 00:37:42,003
This was a sick woman,
845
00:37:42,070 --> 00:37:46,807
who was even afraid
of a whistle.
846
00:37:46,875 --> 00:37:50,345
Jane taught you that whistle,
didn't she?
847
00:37:50,412 --> 00:37:52,280
The Echo Park tribe whistle.
848
00:37:52,347 --> 00:37:54,748
Yes.
849
00:37:54,816 --> 00:37:57,317
When you followed her,
850
00:37:57,384 --> 00:38:02,020
you used it to disorient her...
851
00:38:02,088 --> 00:38:03,355
To frighten her.
852
00:38:03,423 --> 00:38:05,658
I don't know.
I just used it.
853
00:38:05,726 --> 00:38:09,362
Isn't that what you wanted--
to make her afraid,
854
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:11,832
to feel what you felt
all those years?
855
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,267
I don't know.
856
00:38:13,334 --> 00:38:16,136
You wanted to pay her back,
isn't that right?
857
00:38:16,204 --> 00:38:18,706
Because you were angry.
858
00:38:18,773 --> 00:38:22,075
You were angry,
and you wanted revenge.
859
00:38:22,143 --> 00:38:23,777
Your honor,
there's no question here.
860
00:38:23,845 --> 00:38:25,245
Mr. Dekker.
861
00:38:25,313 --> 00:38:28,148
Maura,
isn't telling the truth
862
00:38:28,216 --> 00:38:30,650
part of being
a good person?
863
00:38:30,718 --> 00:38:32,952
It is, isn't it?
864
00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:33,953
Yes.
865
00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:35,821
So what could you tell us?
866
00:38:35,889 --> 00:38:38,557
What would you tell
your children,
867
00:38:38,624 --> 00:38:40,825
as they listen to you now,
868
00:38:40,893 --> 00:38:43,761
about what you did
to Jane Rayburn?
869
00:38:54,841 --> 00:38:57,509
Mommy got mad and...
870
00:38:57,577 --> 00:39:00,879
Made a mistake.
871
00:39:00,947 --> 00:39:04,850
Because you weren't afraid
for your life, were you?
872
00:39:06,319 --> 00:39:07,319
No.
873
00:39:07,387 --> 00:39:10,356
You were just angry at Jane,
874
00:39:10,423 --> 00:39:12,558
at the people
who put you in prison.
875
00:39:12,626 --> 00:39:13,959
Yes.
876
00:39:14,027 --> 00:39:16,796
But you couldn't take it out
on them, could you?
877
00:39:16,863 --> 00:39:19,698
So you put it all on Jane.
878
00:39:19,766 --> 00:39:20,766
Yes.
879
00:39:20,834 --> 00:39:22,101
That's why you killed her.
880
00:39:22,168 --> 00:39:24,103
That's what was going
through your mind
881
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:28,006
when you stabbed her
14 times.
882
00:39:30,677 --> 00:39:33,879
Oh, God.
883
00:39:33,947 --> 00:39:36,448
I couldn't stop.
884
00:39:39,485 --> 00:39:41,820
I was just so angry
885
00:39:41,888 --> 00:39:46,224
about everything
that happened to me--
886
00:39:46,292 --> 00:39:50,328
losing my babies...
887
00:39:50,396 --> 00:39:53,932
My life.
888
00:39:53,999 --> 00:39:56,668
It wasn't fair.
889
00:39:56,735 --> 00:40:00,104
It just wasn't fair.
890
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:05,376
Somebody had to pay.
891
00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:10,215
I'm sorry.
892
00:40:10,283 --> 00:40:12,918
I'm so...
893
00:40:12,985 --> 00:40:14,419
Sorry.
894
00:40:14,487 --> 00:40:17,022
I just wanted somebody
to pay.
895
00:40:27,499 --> 00:40:29,667
No more questions.
896
00:40:33,272 --> 00:40:34,505
12 years?
897
00:40:34,573 --> 00:40:36,474
We might as well take
our chances with the jury.
898
00:40:36,542 --> 00:40:37,976
They heard your client.
899
00:40:38,043 --> 00:40:39,811
I doubt they'll agree revenge
is an acceptable defense.
900
00:40:39,878 --> 00:40:41,946
That might not
matter so much to them
901
00:40:42,014 --> 00:40:44,081
as the fact that Maura's
already served six years
902
00:40:44,149 --> 00:40:46,250
for a crime
she didn't commit.
903
00:40:49,454 --> 00:40:51,422
Voluntary manslaughter...
904
00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:53,791
With credit for time served.
905
00:40:53,859 --> 00:40:57,094
She does the full six,
no parole,
906
00:40:57,162 --> 00:40:58,562
no early release.
907
00:41:07,472 --> 00:41:10,841
I am truly sorry
for what happened to you.
908
00:41:10,909 --> 00:41:14,078
But now everyone knows.
909
00:41:21,853 --> 00:41:23,286
Six years.
910
00:41:23,354 --> 00:41:25,555
I declared victory
and got out.
911
00:41:25,623 --> 00:41:27,825
Everybody got their day
in court.
912
00:41:27,892 --> 00:41:31,029
I have to go to Parker center
and smooth some feathers.
913
00:41:31,096 --> 00:41:32,964
Your stipulation
didn't go over well
914
00:41:33,032 --> 00:41:34,432
with the police chief.
915
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:36,468
I am sure
you will find a way
916
00:41:36,536 --> 00:41:38,838
to spin it
to your advantage, sir.
917
00:41:38,906 --> 00:41:42,609
So will you, Joe.
918
00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:47,214
Nobody put a gun
to Dekker's head,
919
00:41:47,282 --> 00:41:49,450
but he's a smart guy...
920
00:41:49,518 --> 00:41:52,120
Figured the odds.
921
00:41:55,691 --> 00:41:59,060
So what would you have said?
922
00:42:01,330 --> 00:42:04,266
Under oath?
What do you think?
923
00:42:08,205 --> 00:42:10,307
The truth...
924
00:42:10,374 --> 00:42:13,143
One way or the other.
925
00:42:18,651 --> 00:42:22,588
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