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PREVIOUSLY ON
JONESTOWN: TERROR IN THE JUNGLE
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Now will each of you give a salutary
kiss, a greeting to your neighbor.
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The first time I went
to a Peoples Temple meeting,
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I felt like I was home.
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When Jim Jones was up on stage,
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the whole audience was hanging
on every word he said.
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But, the more power he got,
the darker the story got.
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Jim was a power addict.
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Always trying to think how he could
control Peoples Temple members.
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Jim would say that
he was getting death threats
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because he was making
such a difference.
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One Sunday service,
I was out in the parking lot...
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And then all hell broke loose.
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There's someone trying to
assassinate Jim Jones.
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MAY 1972
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Dad's been shot.
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Our leader's been gunned down.
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People were screaming,
"Father's shot! Father's shot!"
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There's blood flowing from his chest.
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Then they rushed everybody
into the temple.
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We're scared because we don't know
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if someone else is out there
shooting.
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Was it one shooter?
Was it more than one shooter?
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And so we're in the temple,
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and people are just in a panic
that we might lose Father.
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A mourn quiet comes over
the whole community.
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I was really afraid.
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The idea of outside threat,
the idea of them and us,
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that if you weren't with us,
you were against us.
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That was the message we heard
constantly.
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The doors opened,
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and one of Jim's security
was carrying this shirt with blood.
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There's red stains on it,
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and there's two holes
that you can put a finger through.
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And Jim's behind him,
but there's not a mark on him.
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He's healed himself.
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You can put me into the noose,
you can hang my body,
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but I'll spring up again.
You cannot stamp me out!
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I'm here to stay!
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People are in a frenzy.
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I mean, crying, joyful, ecstatic.
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It was... the energy was just,
it was just electric.
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And we're thinking,
"Oh, my God, Father healed himself."
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You've never seen anyone shot down
as I was, before your eyes,
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with blood spurting from the body
and healed himself?
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Yet I, a socialist worker, did that.
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How many believe that
I am the savior?
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The only savior?
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They were convinced that
this man is God.
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It brought people together.
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He was going to be the force,
the person,
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who was gonna lead us
to the promised land.
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It wasn't until later
that I knew that that was fake.
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Later on, I learned from my mother
how that had gone down
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and that blanks were fired
to fake this attack.
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I don't know how it was faked,
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but my father was always looking
for ways to create drama
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so that he could be the savior and
the champion within all that drama.
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Everything he did was a test to see
how many people were gonna stay...
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and how many people were gonna leave.
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So every moment he's pushing
the envelope a little bit,
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you know, a little bit further,
right?
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People were true believers.
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And you wanted to be because you
were going to change the world.
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I believed in him 100%, and I
believed in who he said he was.
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I would follow Jim Jones anywhere,
and I did.
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SAN FRANCISCO 1972
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When we moved to San Francisco,
things went to the next level.
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Peoples Temple is
getting more people,
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they're getting more money,
the fame is spreading.
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But you can only go so far
in Redwood Valley.
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In San Francisco,
we have more political strength,
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and that's important.
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You've got the backing
of some people.
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If we build outside of the city,
we don't have that backing.
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In San Francisco, he is going to
gradually insinuate himself
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until he becomes a power broker.
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I first heard of Peoples Temple
when I was a part-time writer
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for the Chronicle
back in the early '70s.
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They would turn out big crowds
at rallies.
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The city was full of groups
that had shown
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they weren't happy
with conventional life.
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Jones very much played into that.
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He was a new guy with
a new message, with a new act.
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This country will not be safe until
we do something to share the wealth
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and share it completely and fairly
and democratically and peacefully.
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He donated money,
he participated in causes,
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he cultivated friends
in a very clever way.
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He rose fast as a political power.
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Jim Jones was known as a person,
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if you had a political activism going
on, call Jim Jones, get him involved.
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And Jim Jones had to see how
he could manipulate it for himself.
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Reverend Jones, how do you account
for such an avid following
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as you seem to have?
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I'm principled.
I'm dedicated to my people.
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He loved the attention.
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You know, he loved to be mingling
with the crème de la crème,
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the politicians in San Francisco.
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He was thriving in that.
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Let me say, first of all,
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that I'm very grateful
for this tremendous crowd.
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Rosalynn Carter was in the city
to campaign for her husband,
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and where she was at, there weren't
that many people that showed up,
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and so somebody called up Jones and
said, "Can you get some people here?"
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And so he filled up three buses
and drove everybody down there,
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and all of a sudden there was a
big crowd, and on the news it was
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"Look at the warm reception
that Rosalynn Carter is receiving
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here in San Francisco."
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And Rosalynn Carter met with him
privately
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to talk about
his political involvement
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in Jimmy Carter's election.
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So much to where he got an invite
to the inauguration.
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The legend of Jim Jones
and Peoples Temple is out there.
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And money comes pouring in.
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I'm very much interested in...
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He's becoming more and more popular.
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The newspapers cover him
like a celebrity.
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In San Francisco, you've got
Willie Mays, you got the jazz scene,
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and now, all of a sudden,
you've got Jim Jones.
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My father was always grandiose,
far back as I can remember,
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and that grandiosity only grew
as the temple grew.
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He was always managing
his image of himself.
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Because he was always at war with
that voice inside of him, I believe,
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that was telling him
he wasn't enough, he was a fraud.
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And I think that's where drugs
really came in much more heavily.
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Jim Jones had always been mistrustful
of most people,
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but the rampant drug use
increased his paranoia.
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As the Temple grew, Jones felt like
he's losing touch
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with rank and file members.
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He feels as though some of his people
may betray him.
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So he creates
the Planning Commission.
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The Planning Commission was made up
of the leadership of People's Temple.
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And they were the ones who were
closest to Jim Jones personally.
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They were the ones that were
making decisions
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about the day to day operations
of People's Temple.
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At their meetings, it gives Jones
a chance to sit there
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and listen to what people
are talking about
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and get some sense of the way
"his people" are feeling.
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I was on the Planning Commission
for five years.
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During a Planning Commission meeting,
I'd pass around a paper,
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and people who had information
about how somebody was doing
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would write down notes.
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I'd type it up and then give it
to Jim and the secretaries.
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It became more of
a spying on you thing.
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The Planning Commission
at the People's Temple,
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as far as I was concerned,
was an enforcement agency.
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If you got called
to the Planning Commission,
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you were in some serious,
serious trouble.
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There was a consequence
to any infraction, whether it be,
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you fell asleep during a meeting,
someone reported that
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you were having affair
with someone else.
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I was called to the
Planning Commission.
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I had just gotten my ears pierced.
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Jim Jones said,
"Well, what did you do that for?
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How bourgeois is that?"
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And I made some remark,
and they all just jumped me.
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All these people starting
pounding me and stuff
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and, I think,
ripped the earrings out.
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I was not considered by Jim Jones
as one of the faithful.
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I got in trouble a lot.
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15-YEAR-OLD WILLIE MALONE
IS CONFRONTED
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FOR TALKING BACK TO OTHER MEMBERS.
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Why is this, Willie, do you do this?
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I've saved you from worse than death.
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Dad, I was just pissed at the time.
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I don't think you'll change
the way you're going.
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I mean, I know you're
gonna kick my ass but...
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Get out of the way
and let the seniors have him!
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You punk! You g...damn gangland punk!
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You've caused us trouble week
after week, month after month...
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got my blood pressure boiling, punk!
Motherf...!
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It's so sickening.
I can't hardly talk about it.
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And then it gets to...
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the boxing matches.
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You're gonna have an opponent
that would beat on someone
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that was not even
a physical match to them.
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It would get bloody.
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They're not supposed to
even fight back,
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you're just supposed to get beat.
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And Jim, he would laugh over this
type of thing,
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that sinister laugh he had.
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You f... bitch,
you don't mess with me.
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I'll kill you.
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Jim Jones had a sadistic quality,
he absolutely did.
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He enjoyed that type of thing.
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It was like a gladiator sport
to him, I think.
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They set up the counseling department
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and eventually
I got made head counselor.
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And I'll never forget,
one night in a meeting,
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I saw somebody very severely beaten.
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And I saw them the next day
professing their love for Jim Jones
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as they were walking in the church.
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And I looked at them
and I said to myself,
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"I don't ever want to be broken
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and in this situation
as a broken person."
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I'd rather be dead than to live the
rest of my life in this situation.
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I knew I had to leave.
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From the time he organized his first
storefront church in Indianapolis,
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Jones took it personally
any time anybody left.
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He couldn't stand it.
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Because loyalty was the greatest
value within Peoples Temple,
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defection was the greatest sin.
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There was always the fear that
anybody that left would be utilized
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by the enemies to help tear down
Peoples Temple.
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Some people want
to desert our ship.
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They thought we were going to sink.
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You that stayed with us,
you were repaid.
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You were repaid for your loyalty.
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You that stood with your Father,
you have been the good children.
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He preaches that once you're in
with us, you're part of us forever.
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He has members sign statements
claiming that
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they had done
all sorts of terrible things,
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from committing cold-blooded murder
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to planning the assassination of the
President of the United States.
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I signed blank pieces of paper,
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I signed pieces of paper
that I wanted to kill the President.
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I signed pieces of paper
that I molested my child.
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Try being in a room with 50 people,
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and you're asked to sign
a blank piece of paper and say,
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"No, I'm not gonna sign it."
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If you didn't sign it, they're like,
"Oh, are you thinking about leaving?
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Should we be concerned about you?"
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He's got something on everyone.
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All of it manufactured.
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But making it clear,
"If you leave this church,
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we'll make it hard on you."
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I was done. Spent.
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Grace Stoen was
Peoples Temple royalty.
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She had a child while in the church.
Jones claimed the child as his.
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She knew a lot about
church activities,
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she was very informed
on how the church operated.
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But then the personal stuff,
the beatings,
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were just too heavy a memory
and an experience for her to ignore.
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I'll never forget,
we were on a cross-country trip
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and one of the members came to me
and he said,
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"Grace, please stop acting out,
stop acting up."
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He said, "They're talking about you.
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They're gonna get you when we get
back and they're gonna beat you up."
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And I said to myself, "I'll never
allow myself to get beaten."
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I knew I had to leave.
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And I just gathered some stuff.
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I didn't tell anyone I was leaving.
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I snuck out.
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And I ended up escaping
with one of the bus drivers.
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We were told to leave the state
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because we were going to be
hunted down
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and killed if we ever left.
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She left the temple
but leaving her son behind.
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She knew that she couldn't probably
pry him loose and get away like that.
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It was hard.
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It was, it was very hard...
very devastating for me.
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And we left on July 3rd
and I'll never forget,
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we woke up to what we thought
were gunshots.
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We sat up and we went, "Oh, my God,
they've already found us."
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Only to realize it was firecrackers.
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It was 4th of July.
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Life has no meaning
other than principle.
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And I could not let this child go
with that criminal, Mrs. Grace Stoen.
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It seems that some people
have lost their way.
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Tragically lost their way.
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What kind of morality would cause her
to do this to Father?
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Every time someone would leave,
Jones would absolutely lose it.
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Jones was so paranoid
about the loyalty of his people,
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he decided he would give the Planning
Commission members the ultimate test.
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We're having a Planning Commission
meeting in San Francisco.
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Meeting starts, and the ranch
had a small vineyard
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that was part of the property
that was there.
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So on this night, he said,
"We have some wine from the ranch.
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Everybody's invited to have some."
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There were Styrofoam cups,
like, half filled with wine.
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Drank the wine.
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And, like, five minutes later,
Jones says,
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"You've all just been poisoned."
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So immediately, inside,
my adrenaline starts running.
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People were yelling and screaming.
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Jones says, you have an hour to live.
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I would just as soon bring it all
to a glorious, screaming end.
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Bring it to a screeching stop
in a glorious moment of triumph.
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Jim Jones says,
"You've all just been poisoned."
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"You have an hour to live."
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Jones says, "No one leaves."
And the minutes go by.
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People start saying, "I can feel
myself dying, I'm feeling faint."
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So after about 45 minutes,
Jones says,
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"Okay, well,
you haven't all been poisoned."
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"This was a test to see
how you handle death."
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So I thought, okay,
he's teaching people what it's like
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to face your own mortality,
your own death.
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That's how I rationalized that.
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And I want to make it clear, that it
was a rationalization on my part.
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Not one of them grabbed Jones
by the throat, you know,
291
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"You son of a bitch."
There was none of that reaction.
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He had people that much cowed,
that much under his control.
293
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He really enjoyed seeing
what people did.
294
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And it was a test of loyalty, right?
295
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"Are these people really willing to
just lay down now
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that I've told them
I've killed them?"
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He was very sadistic at that point.
298
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Looking back on it, I think the
appropriate response would've been,
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"This is a crazy M.F., and it's time
for me to get out of Dodge."
300
00:20:28,479 --> 00:20:32,649
It's clear that as early as 1974,
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that Jim Jones realizes
302
00:20:34,568 --> 00:20:38,405
that some of the practices of
Peoples Temple cannot be sustained.
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The punitive practices with people.
304
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You g...damn gangland punk!
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The paranoid practices.
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All of these things eventually mean
that law enforcement
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is gonna come in
and break up Peoples Temple.
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He needed a place
that they could escape to
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in case criticism became too great,
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and in case Jim Jones himself
was in danger of being arrested.
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IN 1973, JIM JONES DECIDES
TO BUILD A SETTLEMENT
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IN THE SOUTH AMERICAN
COUNTRY OF GUYANA.
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He loves Guyana 'cause
it's socialist, it's mostly minority,
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because it's the only country
in South America
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where the national language
is English.
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He ultimately works out a deal
with the Guyanese government
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and sends a crew out
to start building Jonestown.
318
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So it started in '74.
319
00:21:38,882 --> 00:21:40,509
I think there was, like,
seven guys that went down there.
320
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All of them had some
heavy equipment experience.
321
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We cleared a lot of land
322
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and we built a lot of structures
in very short time.
323
00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:53,939
It was hard, hard work.
324
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The clump of trees
in the center of the clearing
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is a five-acre pig pasture.
326
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They are trying to build a village
that would be able to hold
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about 500 people,
to live there, to work there,
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to feed them from the crops,
and so forth.
329
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I would like to say, at this time,
that all of this was made possible
330
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by our leader, Father Jones.
331
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It's the hottest part of the entire
year and they're doing real well.
332
00:22:30,058 --> 00:22:32,728
When I first heard about Jonestown
was 1974.
333
00:22:32,811 --> 00:22:35,022
Jim Jones had just come back
from Guyana
334
00:22:35,814 --> 00:22:39,443
and was giving a talk
about Jonestown,
335
00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:42,154
and it's going to be an
agricultural community.
336
00:22:47,701 --> 00:22:51,121
Back over here is the area we're
clearing for more planting.
337
00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:56,043
Potatoes and carrots
and eddoes and papaya.
338
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We could grow our own food
and there would be a community,
339
00:23:01,632 --> 00:23:04,927
and there wouldn't be any violence
or racism.
340
00:23:05,010 --> 00:23:08,805
And it was going to be
"the Promised Land."
341
00:23:10,140 --> 00:23:12,392
Darrin, how do you like it here
in the Promised Land?
342
00:23:12,476 --> 00:23:15,145
It's much better than Ukiah.
343
00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:18,148
My name is Anthony Simon,
I'm here in the Promised Land.
344
00:23:18,231 --> 00:23:22,194
My name is Don Swonie,
and I'm grateful to be down here.
345
00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:24,196
I'm working on our fishing trawler
346
00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:26,907
and I enjoy going down the rivers
and meeting new people.
347
00:23:26,990 --> 00:23:30,702
It is more freer down here
and it's more beautiful.
348
00:23:41,755 --> 00:23:43,924
This is a walking stick, friends.
349
00:23:44,007 --> 00:23:47,094
But that's a gentle guy.
Walking stick.
350
00:23:49,054 --> 00:23:53,725
Jim Jones said to be able to go
to Jonestown was a privilege.
351
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It was... a reward to go there.
352
00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:06,154
The time that I spent there
building the town
353
00:24:06,238 --> 00:24:08,615
that our community
was going to come live in,
354
00:24:08,699 --> 00:24:12,911
was one of the happiest times
of my life up to that point.
355
00:24:15,914 --> 00:24:20,168
We are going to have peace
in our Promised Land valley.
356
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,673
Now, in retrospect, I know much
of what he said at that time
357
00:24:24,756 --> 00:24:25,882
was just a flat-out lie.
358
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You are chosen to bring
deliverance to this continent.
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00:24:30,053 --> 00:24:34,349
You are the sons and daughters
of the most High God.
360
00:24:43,817 --> 00:24:46,278
I was a city hall reporter
in San Francisco.
361
00:24:47,362 --> 00:24:49,698
I noticed Jones had a lot of events,
362
00:24:50,657 --> 00:24:53,326
where he would bring in
huge numbers of people
363
00:24:53,410 --> 00:24:55,162
for inconsequential meetings.
364
00:24:56,038 --> 00:24:57,622
So that piqued my curiosity.
365
00:24:57,706 --> 00:24:59,166
Why does he behave this way?
366
00:24:59,791 --> 00:25:02,210
Isn't it unusual
for a religious figure
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00:25:02,294 --> 00:25:04,713
to travel in this kind of
exalted way?
368
00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:08,717
7I thought there was
more to Jim Jones.
369
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,927
So I went to a local
California magazine
370
00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:12,554
at the time called "New West."
371
00:25:12,637 --> 00:25:15,140
And they said,
"Okay, let's see what you got."
372
00:25:17,392 --> 00:25:21,229
I had heard Marshall Kilduff
had been looking for me.
373
00:25:21,313 --> 00:25:26,860
And Jeannie and Al Mills,
who had defected before I did,
374
00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:31,073
called me one night and they said,
"We're gonna do an article."
375
00:25:31,156 --> 00:25:32,657
And I said that I would, too,
376
00:25:32,741 --> 00:25:35,535
that I wasn't gonna let 'em do it
alone, that I would speak as well.
377
00:25:38,455 --> 00:25:42,918
The ex-members, the folks
who had fled the church said,
378
00:25:43,001 --> 00:25:44,461
"Here's what you don't know."
379
00:25:46,963 --> 00:25:49,591
And I think we were there till,
like, 3:00 in the morning.
380
00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,510
I told them everything.
381
00:25:51,593 --> 00:25:56,181
The more power that he got,
the sicker he got.
382
00:25:56,264 --> 00:25:59,142
The whippings got worse and worse.
383
00:25:59,226 --> 00:26:02,479
Our daughter was beaten 75 times
with a board.
384
00:26:02,562 --> 00:26:06,399
I ran with my child out,
got into my car
385
00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:09,027
and he was yelling my name as I left.
386
00:26:09,111 --> 00:26:11,196
He told me that there would be
an accident
387
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,323
in which all three of us
would be killed.
388
00:26:13,406 --> 00:26:16,868
Once you enter Peoples Temple,
you don't leave.
389
00:26:16,952 --> 00:26:18,411
Or you don't leave very easily.
390
00:26:18,495 --> 00:26:20,288
There are death threats.
391
00:26:20,372 --> 00:26:22,541
There is a lot of pressure
from the congregation.
392
00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:24,417
We talked it over with our children,
393
00:26:24,501 --> 00:26:27,170
explained to them that we were going
to be quitting the church.
394
00:26:27,254 --> 00:26:31,508
And they said, "Well, Mom and Dad,
we love you very much,
395
00:26:31,591 --> 00:26:35,512
and we just hope that when you do
decide to quit the church,
396
00:26:35,595 --> 00:26:38,515
you move far away, so we aren't
the ones assigned to kill you."
397
00:26:40,475 --> 00:26:45,438
I don't think I really realized how
dangerous a position that I was in,
398
00:26:45,522 --> 00:26:47,941
but I just credit it to being young.
399
00:26:49,317 --> 00:26:51,862
And not knowing any differently
or any better.
400
00:26:53,363 --> 00:26:57,742
I think what we had to say needed
to be heard because, in the past,
401
00:26:57,826 --> 00:27:02,706
Jim had always been able to stifle
any bad press like that.
402
00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:08,503
So they were just blown away
by what we had to say.
403
00:27:11,256 --> 00:27:13,633
"We were beaten, we had to
give up all our money."
404
00:27:15,969 --> 00:27:18,763
"There's a sexual angle here
that we don't think you know about."
405
00:27:21,516 --> 00:27:22,934
Fake healings.
406
00:27:24,227 --> 00:27:26,062
The church's inner dynamics.
407
00:27:27,230 --> 00:27:28,440
The whole thing.
408
00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:30,650
I had no idea.
409
00:27:30,734 --> 00:27:33,612
This was a new level of problem,
a new level of the story.
410
00:27:36,156 --> 00:27:39,075
I talked to his aides, I talked to
everybody I could at the church.
411
00:27:39,159 --> 00:27:43,955
So Jones knew I was working on
stories, but he never wanted to talk.
412
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:48,335
Jim advised us defectors were
talking to "New West" magazine.
413
00:27:48,418 --> 00:27:52,881
And there was going to be an article
full of lies about Peoples Temple.
414
00:27:52,964 --> 00:27:55,550
We knew it was trouble.
We knew that people were talking
415
00:27:55,634 --> 00:27:58,720
about what was happened
behind closed doors,
416
00:27:58,803 --> 00:28:01,056
which we were not
supposed to speak about.
417
00:28:02,265 --> 00:28:05,477
The lies are so incredible
that anybody with the right mind
418
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,686
would not believe them.
419
00:28:06,770 --> 00:28:10,065
The best thing to do with newspapers
is to wipe your ass with them.
420
00:28:12,025 --> 00:28:17,322
Jones knew maybe his followers
initially are gonna believe in him.
421
00:28:17,405 --> 00:28:20,533
If Father says none of it's true,
it's fake news.
422
00:28:21,368 --> 00:28:24,079
But his political base,
423
00:28:24,162 --> 00:28:30,001
the mayor of San Francisco,
the governor of California,
424
00:28:30,085 --> 00:28:32,254
he's gonna lose that political clout.
425
00:28:32,337 --> 00:28:38,718
And when he loses that, he's going to
lose his standing in San Francisco,
426
00:28:38,802 --> 00:28:40,428
he's gonna look terrible.
427
00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:47,560
Jim was like hyper, and he
increased the talk about enemies
428
00:28:47,644 --> 00:28:53,692
and defectors and traitors
and people out to get us.
429
00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:56,278
NEW WEST
FLASH IN THE PLAINS
430
00:28:56,361 --> 00:28:57,737
INSIDE PEOPLES TEMPLE
431
00:28:57,821 --> 00:29:01,116
When the story breaks,
it's tremendously controversial.
432
00:29:02,867 --> 00:29:06,121
Everybody reads it,
everybody's talking about it.
433
00:29:06,204 --> 00:29:09,124
Both San Francisco newspapers
immediately assign
434
00:29:09,207 --> 00:29:10,542
their own reporters now.
435
00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:13,378
"Dig in. Do more. Find more."
436
00:29:13,461 --> 00:29:16,923
Reverend Jim Jones works
in some very unexpected ways.
437
00:29:17,007 --> 00:29:19,217
-Why didn't you just get out?
-Where did all that money go?
438
00:29:19,301 --> 00:29:21,928
He had us sign papers, blank papers.
439
00:29:22,012 --> 00:29:23,388
"No matter what goes on here,
440
00:29:23,471 --> 00:29:25,140
you go out and tell everybody
everything's okay.
441
00:29:25,223 --> 00:29:28,601
Deny everything you hear
about what's going on here."
442
00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:33,064
The TV stations are all there,
flocking.
443
00:29:33,148 --> 00:29:34,983
"Where's Jim Jones?"
444
00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:39,154
By the time the story came out
and there was this doubt about him,
445
00:29:39,237 --> 00:29:41,114
he wasn't around to answer for it.
446
00:29:42,073 --> 00:29:44,701
In the "New West" article,
447
00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:47,495
some of the questions had to have
direct answers.
448
00:29:48,496 --> 00:29:50,623
He didn't want to answer
the questions.
449
00:29:50,707 --> 00:29:53,043
The [bleep] storm is not gonna stop.
450
00:29:53,126 --> 00:29:55,670
So the only solution is to get out.
451
00:29:55,754 --> 00:29:59,007
So I remember my father saying,
"We're going to Guyana."
452
00:30:06,306 --> 00:30:09,100
I think that Jim Jones was afraid
to face the publicity
453
00:30:09,184 --> 00:30:12,562
and answer the questions
here in this country.
454
00:30:13,563 --> 00:30:17,067
After the "New West" article
backlash that happened...
455
00:30:18,234 --> 00:30:20,195
groundswell started.
456
00:30:20,278 --> 00:30:22,614
"What's the story behind Jim Jones?"
457
00:30:22,697 --> 00:30:26,701
Was all the magic that
Peoples Temple put out, was it true?
458
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:30,789
And if you scratched the surface
a little bit,
459
00:30:30,872 --> 00:30:33,625
you saw maybe it wasn't.
460
00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:39,714
In Guyana, Jim Jones was outraged
by the "New West" article.
461
00:30:39,798 --> 00:30:41,883
And he was also very frightened.
462
00:30:41,966 --> 00:30:45,887
He was afraid that this would give
the detractors of Peoples Temple
463
00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:48,515
the ability to break up the church.
464
00:30:50,725 --> 00:30:53,895
The original plan was that, as soon
as all this died down, he'd be back.
465
00:30:53,978 --> 00:30:55,688
But it's not dying down.
466
00:30:56,606 --> 00:30:59,984
What he's got to do is
he's now got to make Jonestown
467
00:31:00,068 --> 00:31:02,987
the focal point of Peoples Temple.
468
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:08,368
And now, suddenly,
Jim Jones wants virtually everybody
469
00:31:08,451 --> 00:31:11,037
in Peoples Temple to get over there.
470
00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:21,089
I wasn't given a reason
why I was going to Jonestown.
471
00:31:21,172 --> 00:31:22,924
Things were in such a frenzy.
472
00:31:23,007 --> 00:31:26,010
It was just,
"Let's get people down there now."
473
00:31:31,391 --> 00:31:34,894
That summer,
they began shipping people out.
474
00:31:34,978 --> 00:31:36,980
Buses went down to banks,
475
00:31:37,063 --> 00:31:41,401
where people would deposit
their money into church accounts.
476
00:31:41,484 --> 00:31:45,530
They lined them up with passports to
get 'em out of the country legally.
477
00:31:47,031 --> 00:31:49,367
My wife, Gloria,
was already in Guyana.
478
00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:54,038
And I wanted to be with her
for the birth of my child.
479
00:31:55,457 --> 00:31:56,833
It wasn't going to happen.
480
00:31:57,709 --> 00:32:03,131
I was sent to New York City to help
facilitate people getting to Guyana.
481
00:32:04,048 --> 00:32:07,927
The media attention on the temple
at that time was intense.
482
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:10,054
So, they would fly out
of different airports,
483
00:32:10,138 --> 00:32:13,016
whether it was Los Angeles,
Sacramento, San Francisco,
484
00:32:13,099 --> 00:32:15,351
and they would fly
on different airlines
485
00:32:15,435 --> 00:32:17,854
and they would fly
in groups of three.
486
00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:19,939
They always sat apart
from each other,
487
00:32:20,023 --> 00:32:21,399
nobody recognized anybody else,
488
00:32:22,233 --> 00:32:25,069
and there was a flight every day
at 4:30.
489
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,994
OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS,
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLES TEMPLE
490
00:32:33,077 --> 00:32:35,163
MEMBERS ARRIVE IN GEORGETOWN,
THE CAPITAL OF GUYANA.
491
00:32:36,873 --> 00:32:41,503
It's important to understand
how isolated Jonestown was
492
00:32:41,586 --> 00:32:44,714
from Georgetown,
the capital of Guyana.
493
00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:49,886
You've got 160 miles
that cannot be driven.
494
00:32:51,304 --> 00:32:54,432
You have to either try to fly
over the top of the jungle
495
00:32:54,516 --> 00:32:56,476
and land on a tiny airstrip,
496
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:00,313
or you have to take a boat
along the coast and down a river.
497
00:33:06,277 --> 00:33:12,200
It was a 19-hour boat trip
from Georgetown up a river.
498
00:33:14,118 --> 00:33:16,412
Way, way up the river.
499
00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:21,084
I was seasick.
It was not a pleasant trip.
500
00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:23,169
But part of me was happy.
It's like, "Don't complain,
501
00:33:23,253 --> 00:33:25,505
because you're on the way
to the promised land."
502
00:33:31,511 --> 00:33:35,223
When we pulled up to the dock
and we got off...
503
00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:38,768
I was still apprehensive.
504
00:33:39,811 --> 00:33:42,480
We got on the tractor
and we rounded this corner,
505
00:33:42,564 --> 00:33:44,107
and I could just hear them.
506
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:46,568
Welcome, welcome all of you
507
00:33:46,651 --> 00:33:52,740
Welcome, welcome all of youGlad you are with us
508
00:33:56,703 --> 00:33:59,372
What a swing. What liberation brings.
509
00:34:00,707 --> 00:34:03,209
Jonestown was a town,
it was a community.
510
00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,462
From the doctor's office...
511
00:34:07,547 --> 00:34:09,132
to the pharmacy.
512
00:34:09,215 --> 00:34:12,176
Medications here. One whole shelf
that goes half the warehouse length.
513
00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:15,722
We have medical manuals, even how
we could do surgery if we had to.
514
00:34:15,805 --> 00:34:18,433
If civilization as we know it now
began to crumble.
515
00:34:19,392 --> 00:34:23,479
To the classrooms...
to the kitchen.
516
00:34:23,563 --> 00:34:25,189
Different containers
surround the place,
517
00:34:25,273 --> 00:34:26,149
couldn't go through all of them.
518
00:34:26,232 --> 00:34:28,109
Tremendous inventory
they built up...Kool-Aid.
519
00:34:30,486 --> 00:34:34,741
It was built from scratch,
from nothing. From nothing.
520
00:34:36,075 --> 00:34:40,622
It was really kind of remarkable
that this whole little town
521
00:34:40,705 --> 00:34:43,291
was built
in the middle of the jungle.
522
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,961
Far, far away from anything.
523
00:34:53,843 --> 00:34:56,888
I... wanted to get back
to my husband.
524
00:34:56,971 --> 00:35:01,851
I was happy to see my baby,
my son, and spend time with him.
525
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:05,938
When I finally got into Jonestown,
526
00:35:06,022 --> 00:35:08,650
I got to see Gloria
and my son, Malcolm.
527
00:35:10,193 --> 00:35:13,655
I could actually feel tension
leaving my body.
528
00:35:14,489 --> 00:35:16,824
Really, it was a physical sensation.
529
00:35:17,742 --> 00:35:21,329
Because it is incredibly beautiful
and peaceful.
530
00:35:21,412 --> 00:35:23,539
And I thought it was exciting.
531
00:35:26,209 --> 00:35:29,128
We've been building this community,
as I look out over it,
532
00:35:29,212 --> 00:35:33,341
it's the most fantastic thing, and
we've made this part of the country.
533
00:35:33,424 --> 00:35:35,259
We've enriched it
by everything that's growing
534
00:35:35,343 --> 00:35:36,719
and all of these beautiful buildings,
535
00:35:36,803 --> 00:35:39,597
and our medical clinic,
and our lovely homes.
536
00:35:43,976 --> 00:35:46,646
A typical day in Jonestown was
up at 5:00.
537
00:35:46,729 --> 00:35:50,233
There would be someone on the side
of the cabin with a stick.
538
00:35:50,316 --> 00:35:53,861
"5:00, 5:00." So 5:00.
539
00:35:54,862 --> 00:35:58,408
We'd work six days a week,
and I was okay with that
540
00:35:58,491 --> 00:36:00,952
because I felt like
I was building something,
541
00:36:01,035 --> 00:36:04,580
and now I was really
a good socialist.
542
00:36:05,873 --> 00:36:12,213
Long liveThe socialist dream
543
00:36:13,923 --> 00:36:16,050
-That's beautiful.
-Thank you!
544
00:36:17,802 --> 00:36:20,972
The getting up sweaty
and this kind of stuff, I hated that.
545
00:36:21,055 --> 00:36:23,057
Oh, I hated that. I hated that.
546
00:36:23,141 --> 00:36:28,896
I hated walking out of your cabin
on... in the rainy season,
547
00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:31,357
and your feet are full of mud and...
548
00:36:31,441 --> 00:36:33,067
You know, I hated all
that kind of stuff.
549
00:36:34,944 --> 00:36:36,195
But you know something?
550
00:36:36,988 --> 00:36:40,074
When you're with 900 people
you care about...
551
00:36:42,869 --> 00:36:44,454
it didn't seem that bad.
552
00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:52,920
I remember the dances,
the youth dances.
553
00:36:57,133 --> 00:37:01,137
I remember some of the meetings
that my father did,
554
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:04,223
and we talked about
building a new world, you know?
555
00:37:04,307 --> 00:37:06,642
Those were powerful to me.
556
00:37:06,726 --> 00:37:11,230
I felt like we were Che Guevara,
building a new world,
557
00:37:11,314 --> 00:37:12,356
that's how I felt.
558
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,777
The people united
will never be defeated!
559
00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:19,197
The people united
will never be defeated!
560
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,116
The people united
will never be defeated!
561
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,868
The people united...
562
00:37:26,954 --> 00:37:28,790
Things were good for a while.
563
00:37:28,873 --> 00:37:30,625
Grandma Bates,
how do you like it here?
564
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:32,376
I love it. I love it.
565
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:35,338
It's... I love it better than
any place I've been in my life.
566
00:37:35,421 --> 00:37:37,757
All of a sudden,
things started shifting.
567
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,512
I just love it. I hope everything
is gonna be all right for us.
568
00:37:57,401 --> 00:38:00,696
Jonestown was ill-equipped
to provide a life
569
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:03,032
for all the people that arrived.
570
00:38:03,115 --> 00:38:06,160
And Jim Jones is aware that
what's happening in Jonestown
571
00:38:06,244 --> 00:38:08,037
is not sustainable, either.
572
00:38:11,207 --> 00:38:14,544
Ultimately Jones has about
1,000 people
573
00:38:14,627 --> 00:38:16,504
in a place built for half that.
574
00:38:18,422 --> 00:38:22,009
Almost instantly,
there's not enough food.
575
00:38:22,093 --> 00:38:23,761
We're gonna conserve on food.
576
00:38:23,845 --> 00:38:25,972
Keep that up because
we'll need every dollar.
577
00:38:26,055 --> 00:38:28,349
'Cause this is the only
kind of place to be.
578
00:38:28,432 --> 00:38:29,559
Freedom.
579
00:38:30,643 --> 00:38:32,728
As more people began coming,
580
00:38:32,812 --> 00:38:34,730
even the children weren't getting
what they needed.
581
00:38:34,814 --> 00:38:36,899
And the senior citizens definitely
582
00:38:36,983 --> 00:38:38,818
were not getting the food
that they needed.
583
00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:43,406
We even sell bananas now because
we're trying to make money.
584
00:38:43,489 --> 00:38:46,617
We need money so badly to take care
of all of our family, to save them.
585
00:38:48,744 --> 00:38:51,747
Jones knows he's got money that
could take care of that for decades,
586
00:38:51,831 --> 00:38:53,291
but he's not revealing that.
587
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,252
So instead people are told,
"We've gotta do better
588
00:38:56,335 --> 00:38:58,963
or we're gonna starve
and be humiliated."
589
00:39:00,047 --> 00:39:02,592
I know it's not pleasant, children.
590
00:39:02,675 --> 00:39:05,177
But my God, somebody's gotta
fight this revolution.
591
00:39:06,721 --> 00:39:10,474
You're physically adjusting
to the work, but you get used to it,
592
00:39:10,558 --> 00:39:12,518
you get used to the work.
593
00:39:12,602 --> 00:39:16,772
What you don't get used to is the
sirens in the middle of the night.
594
00:39:18,983 --> 00:39:21,569
Or Jim's drugged,
sometimes incoherent voice
595
00:39:21,652 --> 00:39:24,280
over the loudspeaker
in the middle of the night.
596
00:39:24,363 --> 00:39:26,949
Attention, attention.
597
00:39:27,617 --> 00:39:31,037
There's still not enough
energy shown by workers.
598
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:37,043
Around the cottages,
in my review... they're not clean.
599
00:39:37,126 --> 00:39:39,587
In Jonestown, there were
loudspeakers everywhere.
600
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:41,672
They went on 24/7.
601
00:39:41,756 --> 00:39:44,216
The voice of Jim Jones.
602
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:47,720
This is essential,
absolutely essential.
603
00:39:48,304 --> 00:39:52,224
Jim Jones did a terrible job
of maintaining his leadership
604
00:39:52,308 --> 00:39:54,185
within the community of Jonestown.
605
00:39:54,268 --> 00:39:59,023
He would stumble, he would urinate
off the side of the walkways.
606
00:40:00,608 --> 00:40:04,987
It was apparent that his...
drug use had increased.
607
00:40:05,071 --> 00:40:07,031
He was slurring his speech.
608
00:40:07,907 --> 00:40:13,204
We must stop the...
609
00:40:13,287 --> 00:40:20,086
dilatory way in which some people
regard their own property.
610
00:40:20,878 --> 00:40:24,840
Remember, his number one source
of well-being,
611
00:40:24,924 --> 00:40:29,095
if you could even call it that,
was adulation.
612
00:40:29,178 --> 00:40:33,849
Or feeling like he was adored
by the people around him.
613
00:40:33,933 --> 00:40:36,811
And now his source was finite.
614
00:40:36,894 --> 00:40:40,314
It was the same people every day,
same thing.
615
00:40:40,398 --> 00:40:43,943
So, what he tried to do
was just escalate things.
616
00:40:44,777 --> 00:40:46,195
You people all tighten me up.
617
00:40:46,278 --> 00:40:49,031
G...damn you sons of bitches!
G...damn you!
618
00:40:49,699 --> 00:40:50,908
'Cause you sons of bitches...
619
00:40:50,992 --> 00:40:53,452
Anything I do, you gotta do.
G...damn ya!
620
00:40:54,662 --> 00:40:56,038
Why don't you work like I do then?
621
00:40:56,122 --> 00:40:57,999
Why don't you take the burdens
I do then?
622
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,711
So I'm looking at all this,
I'm seeing this,
623
00:41:01,794 --> 00:41:06,132
and I'm starting to really
acknowledge what I'm seeing
624
00:41:06,215 --> 00:41:11,012
as not my imagination or not
my ability to be a good socialist,
625
00:41:11,095 --> 00:41:14,098
but the fact that there is something
seriously wrong here.
626
00:41:18,144 --> 00:41:20,563
I think Dad was very much aware
of the fact that
627
00:41:20,646 --> 00:41:22,773
our town could not last.
628
00:41:22,857 --> 00:41:24,567
What we were doing
was not sustainable.
629
00:41:26,402 --> 00:41:30,364
As Jim Jones realized
what was happening at Jonestown
630
00:41:30,448 --> 00:41:33,200
was a kind of failed experiment,
631
00:41:33,284 --> 00:41:35,995
he and his leadership
began to ask themselves,
632
00:41:36,078 --> 00:41:40,458
"How can we still succeed
in terms of history?"
633
00:41:41,667 --> 00:41:45,171
And so this,
"We're an egalitarian community
634
00:41:45,254 --> 00:41:47,256
that's gonna show the world
how we can live
635
00:41:47,339 --> 00:41:49,675
as a utopian gathering of people."
636
00:41:49,759 --> 00:41:52,887
Became instead,
"How do we show the world
637
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:56,432
what a truly committed
group of people would do
638
00:41:56,515 --> 00:42:00,311
if they are threatened with the
disintegration of their community?"
639
00:42:01,854 --> 00:42:05,483
The people that went to Jonestown
wanted to believe in something.
640
00:42:05,566 --> 00:42:07,276
I'm no longer a man.
641
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:08,861
I'm a revolution.
642
00:42:08,944 --> 00:42:12,406
I am the mighty wind
of revolutionary change!
643
00:42:12,490 --> 00:42:15,534
And they wanted to make
a better world.
644
00:42:16,327 --> 00:42:18,704
I never saw us dying from within.
645
00:42:18,788 --> 00:42:22,374
I never, ever saw it... coming.
646
00:42:26,462 --> 00:42:29,590
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