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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,083 --> 00:00:03,167 Hey, guys, there's a low-flying plane out here. 2 00:00:03,333 --> 00:00:04,958 Oh, look right there. Man, he's low. 3 00:00:05,125 --> 00:00:06,833 I'm not showing anything. 4 00:00:07,042 --> 00:00:08,833 Whoever it is, their transmitter is off. 5 00:00:08,958 --> 00:00:10,458 TRAVIS: What are they doing? 6 00:00:10,667 --> 00:00:13,625 You know, I have these cameras in here and right outside. 7 00:00:13,792 --> 00:00:18,000 Something happened where all of them were disabled. 8 00:00:18,208 --> 00:00:20,500 And video recorded on them was captured 9 00:00:20,708 --> 00:00:21,875 and sent somewhere else. 10 00:00:22,042 --> 00:00:24,125 Something is hacking this device. 11 00:00:24,292 --> 00:00:25,000 Yeah. 12 00:00:25,167 --> 00:00:26,042 ALEX: I hit something. 13 00:00:26,208 --> 00:00:27,750 I'm not moving at all, 14 00:00:27,917 --> 00:00:31,417 and it's not even biting, it's just rotating smoothly. 15 00:00:31,583 --> 00:00:34,292 We had to replace the teeth. They're all in pretty bad shape. 16 00:00:34,417 --> 00:00:36,417 TRAVIS: What in the world is inside that mesa 17 00:00:36,542 --> 00:00:38,250 that they can't drill through easily? 18 00:00:38,417 --> 00:00:40,458 -What the hell is this? -What is that? 19 00:00:40,625 --> 00:00:42,917 TRAVIS: Space-age material, right there. 20 00:00:43,083 --> 00:00:45,167 Look at the patterning. That's manufactured, guys. 21 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:48,292 TRAVIS: What is that ceramic doing in there? 22 00:00:50,417 --> 00:00:53,833 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 23 00:00:54,042 --> 00:00:56,500 It is considered the epicenter 24 00:00:56,708 --> 00:01:01,708 of the strangest and most disturbing occurrences on Earth. 25 00:01:01,875 --> 00:01:03,000 For two decades, 26 00:01:03,208 --> 00:01:04,875 the federal government 27 00:01:05,042 --> 00:01:07,000 investigated the property. 28 00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:10,500 Their findings have never been made public. 29 00:01:10,625 --> 00:01:11,875 TRAVIS: Right there! We got something! 30 00:01:12,042 --> 00:01:13,958 NARRATOR: Now a new team 31 00:01:14,125 --> 00:01:16,625 of independent scientists and researchers 32 00:01:16,792 --> 00:01:17,833 are taking over. 33 00:01:18,417 --> 00:01:19,833 They are uncovering evidence 34 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,792 that the countless stories... 35 00:01:21,958 --> 00:01:23,583 It came right out of the mesa. 36 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:26,333 ...of unidentified aerial phenomena... 37 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:27,750 UAP right there! 38 00:01:27,958 --> 00:01:29,417 ...bizarre energies... 39 00:01:29,583 --> 00:01:31,333 It looks like there's a heat source right above 'em. 40 00:01:31,542 --> 00:01:34,250 ...and portals that lead to other dimensions... 41 00:01:34,417 --> 00:01:35,500 We're maybe looking at the anomaly 42 00:01:35,708 --> 00:01:37,000 for the first time, guys. 43 00:01:37,125 --> 00:01:39,500 ...might actually be true. 44 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:42,333 They will stop at nothing to reveal... 45 00:01:45,125 --> 00:01:48,583 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 46 00:01:54,792 --> 00:01:55,833 TRAVIS: What's going on? 47 00:01:56,042 --> 00:01:57,292 ERIK: Well, you know, 48 00:01:57,417 --> 00:01:58,833 I've looked at the ceramics 49 00:01:59,042 --> 00:02:00,625 from the mesa under the microscope. 50 00:02:00,750 --> 00:02:02,292 -Super exciting. -ERIK: Yeah. 51 00:02:02,458 --> 00:02:04,125 TRAVIS: For over three years now, 52 00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:07,333 we've been drilling in the mesa on Skinwalker Ranch, 53 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:10,167 in an effort to identify a massive object 54 00:02:10,292 --> 00:02:12,042 and several smaller anomalies 55 00:02:12,208 --> 00:02:14,125 that we believe are buried inside there. 56 00:02:14,250 --> 00:02:16,333 And last night, after the drill 57 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:18,917 may have hit one of these objects 58 00:02:19,042 --> 00:02:21,458 about 470 feet in our borehole, 59 00:02:21,667 --> 00:02:24,792 we made an incredible discovery in the drilling spoils. 60 00:02:24,917 --> 00:02:26,708 Pieces of ceramics 61 00:02:26,875 --> 00:02:29,500 that appeared to be highly engineered. 62 00:02:29,667 --> 00:02:32,417 Let me repeat that-- pieces of ceramics 63 00:02:32,583 --> 00:02:35,417 that appeared to be highly engineered. 64 00:02:35,583 --> 00:02:37,167 I want to show you a cross section 65 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:38,833 of one of the parts 66 00:02:39,042 --> 00:02:41,333 and get your assessment 67 00:02:41,458 --> 00:02:43,792 of what in the heck we're looking at here. 68 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,292 -THOMAS: Oh, wow. -TRAVIS: Oh, that is fantastic, Erik. 69 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:49,500 -Look at that. -KALEB: Wow. 70 00:02:49,667 --> 00:02:52,958 THOMAS: So, this image here-- this isn't a picture? 71 00:02:53,125 --> 00:02:54,167 This is actually under the microscope? 72 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:57,125 This is live off of the microscope. 73 00:02:57,208 --> 00:02:59,000 TRAVIS: We don't know anything 74 00:02:59,167 --> 00:03:01,500 about this ceramic material for sure yet. 75 00:03:01,708 --> 00:03:05,042 So, before we take them to a lab for testing, 76 00:03:05,208 --> 00:03:06,958 Erik Bard gathered us in the command center 77 00:03:07,125 --> 00:03:08,458 to get a closer look. 78 00:03:08,625 --> 00:03:12,167 Yeah, you look at the crosshatches, right? 79 00:03:12,375 --> 00:03:16,333 The preciseness of these lines looks like 80 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:18,042 they were made by laser etching or centering. 81 00:03:18,250 --> 00:03:20,458 ERIK: So, that is potentially 82 00:03:20,583 --> 00:03:21,750 -machined. -TRAVIS: Yes. 83 00:03:23,917 --> 00:03:25,625 ERIK: Let me show you 84 00:03:25,792 --> 00:03:27,917 the chemical analysis of this sample 85 00:03:28,125 --> 00:03:29,333 that we were just looking at. 86 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:32,833 This is from the handheld XRF system. 87 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,625 TRAVIS: Erik's XRF, or X-ray fluorescence machine, 88 00:03:36,833 --> 00:03:40,500 uses X-rays to determine the elements in an object. 89 00:03:40,708 --> 00:03:43,333 That might help us figure out what these ceramics 90 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:45,583 could actually be used for. 91 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:47,792 So, look at what we're seeing here. 92 00:03:47,958 --> 00:03:50,000 There's the nickel, 93 00:03:50,167 --> 00:03:52,417 and there is the iron. 94 00:03:52,583 --> 00:03:54,500 TRAVIS: Well, and the cobalt and strontium 95 00:03:54,708 --> 00:03:57,333 and thorium and all that is very interesting, too. 96 00:03:57,458 --> 00:04:00,042 Everyday common ceramics wouldn't be made 97 00:04:00,208 --> 00:04:01,958 -of these kinds of elements. -ERIK: No. 98 00:04:02,125 --> 00:04:04,500 The fact that we see cobalt 99 00:04:04,583 --> 00:04:09,167 and nickel in this does hint of magnetic properties. 100 00:04:09,375 --> 00:04:11,625 I have some small magnets, some rare earth magnets, 101 00:04:11,792 --> 00:04:14,083 that we can use to take a look at these parts 102 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:15,833 and see if they respond in any way. 103 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,958 TRAVIS: Normal ceramics are usually made of clay, 104 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:19,583 not metallic elements. 105 00:04:19,792 --> 00:04:23,208 So, if this stuff is magnetic, it's another clue 106 00:04:23,375 --> 00:04:26,875 of something that was engineered for a specific purpose. 107 00:04:28,042 --> 00:04:29,500 -ERIK: Moment of truth. -SAM: Oh, boy. 108 00:04:32,667 --> 00:04:34,750 -TRAVIS: What? -ROYSTON: Whoa. 109 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:36,500 Whoa, whoa. Whoa. 110 00:04:36,667 --> 00:04:38,333 -What? -Can you believe that? 111 00:04:39,792 --> 00:04:41,750 They're even magnetic. Like, I'm still trying wrap my head... 112 00:04:41,917 --> 00:04:43,333 -Like-- -TRAVIS: Ceramics aren't magnetic. 113 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:45,292 ERIK: I got to see this again. 114 00:04:45,458 --> 00:04:47,000 -ROBERTS: Do the other pieces do it? -I don't know. 115 00:04:47,125 --> 00:04:50,042 -ROYSTON: Whoa. -That's no small effect. 116 00:04:50,208 --> 00:04:52,167 Wait a second. 117 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:54,167 TRAVIS: What's going on? 118 00:04:54,292 --> 00:04:58,042 ERIK: Now, it feels like the magnet is repelling the ceramic. 119 00:05:00,208 --> 00:05:01,542 There's more going on here. 120 00:05:01,750 --> 00:05:02,875 Yeah, I want you to feel this. 121 00:05:06,042 --> 00:05:07,500 Watch. 122 00:05:08,542 --> 00:05:10,250 TRAVIS: Well, it's pushing against it right now. 123 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:12,167 You're right, Erik. 124 00:05:12,333 --> 00:05:13,667 The ceramic has changed 125 00:05:13,833 --> 00:05:15,667 to having a repulsive magnetic field. 126 00:05:15,875 --> 00:05:17,333 How does that happen? 127 00:05:17,542 --> 00:05:20,542 There are no naturally-occurring magnetic materials 128 00:05:20,708 --> 00:05:23,500 that can both attract and repel magnets. 129 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:27,167 The fact that this ceramic is doing both is crazy, 130 00:05:27,333 --> 00:05:28,750 and I'm not sure what to make of it... 131 00:05:28,917 --> 00:05:31,500 other than it was engineered for some purpose. 132 00:05:31,708 --> 00:05:37,042 This actually has very similar elemental makeup 133 00:05:37,208 --> 00:05:39,958 that you might see from superconductors. 134 00:05:40,125 --> 00:05:43,333 A superconductor is a revolutionary material 135 00:05:43,458 --> 00:05:44,833 that scientists are still researching 136 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,333 and developing today. 137 00:05:46,542 --> 00:05:49,125 It can transfer massive amounts of energy 138 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:51,333 with no resistance or energy loss. 139 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:53,667 This is really complicated science. 140 00:05:53,875 --> 00:05:57,792 The superconductors interact with magnets in strange ways, 141 00:05:57,958 --> 00:06:00,417 just like we're seeing with this ceramic. 142 00:06:00,583 --> 00:06:02,833 What's amazing about superconductors 143 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,500 is that because they can repel normal magnetic fields, 144 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:07,792 they're used today for propulsion 145 00:06:07,958 --> 00:06:11,625 in high-tech vehicles like magnetic levitation trains. 146 00:06:11,792 --> 00:06:13,875 But some scientists have suggested 147 00:06:14,042 --> 00:06:16,500 that superconductors could one day be used 148 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:19,875 in the construction of things like spacecraft. 149 00:06:20,042 --> 00:06:22,208 So, if this ceramic is a superconductor, 150 00:06:22,375 --> 00:06:24,667 what the hell is inside the mesa? 151 00:06:24,833 --> 00:06:26,250 So, when you flip it over, does it... 152 00:06:26,417 --> 00:06:29,125 does it attract? 153 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:31,458 Nope. Still pushing away. 154 00:06:31,667 --> 00:06:34,792 But this shouldn't be possible at room temperature. 155 00:06:34,958 --> 00:06:36,333 No, it should not. 156 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:38,750 TRAVIS: Normally, superconductors need to be cooled 157 00:06:38,875 --> 00:06:40,667 way down, like to liquid nitrogen temperatures, 158 00:06:40,833 --> 00:06:44,083 so that it repels any magnetic field. 159 00:06:44,292 --> 00:06:45,750 But it's not supposed to do that 160 00:06:45,875 --> 00:06:48,000 until you hit to liquid nitrogen temperature. 161 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:49,833 It was insane 162 00:06:49,958 --> 00:06:51,958 that the ceramic kept repelling the magnet, 163 00:06:52,167 --> 00:06:53,958 like a superconductor would. 164 00:06:54,167 --> 00:06:55,667 But here's the real mystery. 165 00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:58,000 In order for superconductors to transfer energy 166 00:06:58,167 --> 00:07:01,208 without losing any or to repel magnetic fields, 167 00:07:01,375 --> 00:07:04,125 they have to be kept extremely cold. 168 00:07:04,208 --> 00:07:07,500 It's like trying to skate on ice as opposed to water. 169 00:07:07,667 --> 00:07:10,458 If they warm up, they stop being superconductors. 170 00:07:10,667 --> 00:07:11,958 That means it's... 171 00:07:12,042 --> 00:07:13,792 That might be a room-temperature superconductor. 172 00:07:13,958 --> 00:07:15,333 There's no such thing 173 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:17,000 as a room-temperature superconductor. 174 00:07:17,208 --> 00:07:19,875 If this is a room-temperature superconductor, 175 00:07:20,042 --> 00:07:21,250 it's a breakthrough that we've been looking for decades. 176 00:07:21,458 --> 00:07:22,917 ERIK: Oh, huge. Yeah. 177 00:07:23,083 --> 00:07:25,083 TRAVIS: We have a ton of more testing to do. 178 00:07:25,208 --> 00:07:27,167 But right now, it seems like 179 00:07:27,375 --> 00:07:29,125 there could be something in the mesa 180 00:07:29,250 --> 00:07:32,542 that's way beyond our present scientific capabilities. 181 00:07:32,708 --> 00:07:35,708 -Well, who made it? -Well, who or what made it? 182 00:07:35,917 --> 00:07:37,458 -(others chuckling) -And when was it made? 183 00:07:37,583 --> 00:07:38,750 ERIK: And the question to follow 184 00:07:38,958 --> 00:07:41,583 yours is, what the hell did we drill into? 185 00:07:41,792 --> 00:07:44,167 We got to do a lot more testing. 186 00:07:44,292 --> 00:07:46,333 -We've got to let Brandon know about this. -For sure. 187 00:07:46,417 --> 00:07:48,000 TRAVIS: All right, well, let's do that. 188 00:07:48,125 --> 00:07:49,542 Let's get right on with it. 189 00:07:55,833 --> 00:07:59,292 KYLE: Hey, Allan, go ahead and start turning it 190 00:07:59,417 --> 00:08:02,167 and pulling it out nice and slow. 191 00:08:02,375 --> 00:08:03,542 10-4. 192 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:05,708 TRAVIS: After we called Brandon 193 00:08:05,833 --> 00:08:07,750 to tell him about the ceramic materials, 194 00:08:07,875 --> 00:08:10,083 he said he'd arrange for us to have them further analyzed 195 00:08:10,250 --> 00:08:13,333 as soon as possible at Utah Valley University. 196 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:15,167 All right, pulling. 197 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:17,292 Copy that. 198 00:08:17,458 --> 00:08:20,625 TRAVIS: So, in the meantime, we headed back to the mesa 199 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:22,500 where the drillers had gotten to nearly 500 feet 200 00:08:22,708 --> 00:08:24,917 inside of Borehole 2. 201 00:08:25,083 --> 00:08:26,875 After we drill the last hundred feet or so 202 00:08:27,042 --> 00:08:28,875 and pop out of the top of the mesa, 203 00:08:29,042 --> 00:08:31,917 we'll have two identical boreholes positioned 204 00:08:32,042 --> 00:08:34,792 on either side of the massive object buried in there. 205 00:08:34,917 --> 00:08:38,667 Then we can insert scanning devices into both boreholes 206 00:08:38,833 --> 00:08:41,500 to help us learn more about what these things could be. 207 00:08:41,667 --> 00:08:43,875 KYLE: All right, rotate a little bit slower 208 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,708 and keep pulling. 209 00:08:46,667 --> 00:08:49,417 Holy crap, dude. Look at that. 210 00:08:49,583 --> 00:08:51,833 Tooth is almost completely gone. 211 00:08:52,875 --> 00:08:54,875 Oh, my gosh. 212 00:08:55,875 --> 00:08:58,167 -The guys are gonna want to see this. -Yeah. 213 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,958 Hey, guys, this is Thomas. Do you copy? 214 00:09:03,875 --> 00:09:05,750 KALEB: Yeah, go ahead, Tom. 215 00:09:06,750 --> 00:09:08,125 THOMAS: Hey, they just pulled this bit out 216 00:09:08,250 --> 00:09:09,625 to do a battery change, 217 00:09:09,833 --> 00:09:12,375 and you're gonna want to look at this. 218 00:09:12,542 --> 00:09:14,333 There's something pretty incredible here. 219 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:16,083 -Oh, here we go. -TRAVIS: Yup. 220 00:09:16,208 --> 00:09:19,167 We had no idea what to expect at the drill site. 221 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:20,792 We've had so many 222 00:09:20,917 --> 00:09:22,667 crazy malfunctions happen 223 00:09:22,833 --> 00:09:25,625 that seem to be related to whatever's buried in there. 224 00:09:25,792 --> 00:09:29,000 So, what the heck have we got going on? 225 00:09:29,208 --> 00:09:32,875 Well, the first and obvious thing is the teeth here. 226 00:09:33,042 --> 00:09:35,583 I mean, how many sets of teeth is this now? 227 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:37,042 KYLE: This will be the third set. 228 00:09:37,208 --> 00:09:39,500 And it's half of the whole tooth is missing. 229 00:09:39,667 --> 00:09:40,958 How about that? 230 00:09:41,125 --> 00:09:43,250 KYLE: And if you want to look at this, 231 00:09:43,417 --> 00:09:45,417 it's completely, like, welded shut. 232 00:09:45,583 --> 00:09:47,083 TRAVIS: It's fused... 233 00:09:47,208 --> 00:09:49,167 -It's friction-welded. -Mm-hmm. -ERIK: Crazy. 234 00:09:49,292 --> 00:09:52,500 So, something welded the... the bit to the rod. 235 00:09:52,708 --> 00:09:54,167 KYLE: Got it hot enough, yeah, but the weird thing is, 236 00:09:54,333 --> 00:09:58,833 is the beacon stayed at 73 degrees the whole time. 237 00:10:00,292 --> 00:10:02,667 TRAVIS: Oh, it's 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit to get that hot 238 00:10:02,875 --> 00:10:04,167 and weld that steel. 239 00:10:04,375 --> 00:10:05,833 ERIK: I'm looking at that metal, 240 00:10:05,917 --> 00:10:08,625 and it doesn't look to me like it ever got that hot. 241 00:10:08,792 --> 00:10:11,750 -Yeah. You usually see black and blue... -KYLE: Yes. 242 00:10:11,875 --> 00:10:14,833 ...kind of rings and things where the weld structure is. 243 00:10:15,042 --> 00:10:16,875 You'll see all the different oxidation states, you'll see 244 00:10:17,042 --> 00:10:18,542 -color affected. Yeah. -TRAVIS: Now, I don't see that. 245 00:10:18,708 --> 00:10:20,250 That means it's in something 246 00:10:20,375 --> 00:10:22,292 that was sucking all the heat away. 247 00:10:22,417 --> 00:10:23,708 The only thing that I know of 248 00:10:23,875 --> 00:10:25,458 that could do that would be a ceramic material. 249 00:10:25,542 --> 00:10:27,542 Maybe it's hitting more of the ceramic stuff 250 00:10:27,708 --> 00:10:29,458 that we found in the spoils. 251 00:10:29,625 --> 00:10:31,333 What the hell is in this mesa? 252 00:10:31,542 --> 00:10:33,917 TRAVIS: Could what happened to this drill bit 253 00:10:34,083 --> 00:10:36,667 be another clue about what's buried in the mesa? 254 00:10:36,875 --> 00:10:38,417 We don't know yet, 255 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:40,125 but it makes us all the more eager 256 00:10:40,250 --> 00:10:41,667 to get the ceramic material 257 00:10:41,833 --> 00:10:44,208 that we found tested in a university lab. 258 00:10:44,417 --> 00:10:46,500 You have another bit that you can swap out of this 259 00:10:46,667 --> 00:10:48,958 and the housing, or you got to order one? 260 00:10:49,125 --> 00:10:51,000 Uh, we're gonna have to order one. 261 00:10:51,167 --> 00:10:52,458 THOMAS: So, we're down for day or so till you can get it. 262 00:10:52,625 --> 00:10:53,792 KYLE: Yup, we can get it overnighted. 263 00:10:53,958 --> 00:10:54,833 -TRAVIS: Wow. -THOMAS: All right. 264 00:10:55,042 --> 00:10:57,000 TRAVIS: Crazy operation. 265 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,125 THOMAS: All right. Let's do it, guys. 266 00:11:09,292 --> 00:11:12,667 -We're down to, what, last 85 feet? -85. 267 00:11:12,875 --> 00:11:15,042 Home stretch is here. 268 00:11:15,208 --> 00:11:17,833 TRAVIS: The next day, the drillers received their new bit, 269 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,167 so we were hoping that they'd finally be able 270 00:11:20,375 --> 00:11:21,833 to finish Borehole 2 271 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,833 and cut through to the top of the mesa. 272 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,542 KYLE: Allan, go ahead and give me a little bit of water 273 00:11:25,708 --> 00:11:27,292 and start pushing in. 274 00:11:28,417 --> 00:11:29,958 ALLAN: Water's on. 275 00:11:30,125 --> 00:11:31,875 KYLE: All right, go ahead and start pushing. 276 00:11:35,875 --> 00:11:39,000 THOMAS: Hell yeah. I'm hoping 277 00:11:39,208 --> 00:11:40,667 that's the last time I see that drill bit 278 00:11:40,875 --> 00:11:42,667 -till it comes out the top. -Me as well. 279 00:11:42,875 --> 00:11:44,917 I'm right there with you. 280 00:11:45,083 --> 00:11:46,833 Hey, guys. 281 00:11:47,042 --> 00:11:48,500 ERIK: I think everyone on the team, 282 00:11:48,667 --> 00:11:50,250 certainly the drillers are anxious 283 00:11:50,375 --> 00:11:53,167 to get this second borehole executed. 284 00:11:53,292 --> 00:11:56,167 Of course, there is some anticipation 285 00:11:56,250 --> 00:11:59,583 of perhaps running into more of this very hard material 286 00:11:59,750 --> 00:12:02,167 because we're seeing the erosion of teeth. 287 00:12:02,375 --> 00:12:04,875 But we're also curious as to whether we'll find more 288 00:12:05,042 --> 00:12:07,625 of this ceramic material coming back out of the spoils. 289 00:12:07,792 --> 00:12:09,958 It's an exciting time. 290 00:12:10,875 --> 00:12:13,000 THOMAS: I'll leave you to it. 291 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:14,708 I'm gonna head down to the spoils. 292 00:12:14,875 --> 00:12:16,042 -I'll let you take care of this. -KYLE: Sounds good. 293 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:18,458 -I'll make my way up there. -Okay. 294 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:20,833 THOMAS: After seeing our tungsten carbide 295 00:12:21,042 --> 00:12:22,500 drill teeth chewed away 296 00:12:22,667 --> 00:12:25,125 and finding this ceramic material, 297 00:12:25,292 --> 00:12:27,833 you better believe that we were extremely interested to see 298 00:12:28,042 --> 00:12:29,833 what was coming out of the spoils pit 299 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,458 as the drillers continued drilling into Borehole 2. 300 00:12:33,917 --> 00:12:35,000 This is a culmination of everything 301 00:12:35,208 --> 00:12:37,917 -basically 500 feet and below. -Okay. 302 00:12:38,042 --> 00:12:40,833 -So no telling, you know, what we'll find in here. -Yeah. 303 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:50,833 -What's that one right down there? -This one? 304 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,125 -No, right there. -Th-- Ooh. 305 00:12:55,458 --> 00:12:57,417 Let you look at that. 306 00:13:01,208 --> 00:13:02,917 -ROBERTS: Got one. -THOMAS: What? 307 00:13:03,083 --> 00:13:05,167 -(laughs) Yeah. -That-that is a... 308 00:13:05,333 --> 00:13:07,000 -That's a piece of ceramic? -Yeah. That's a piece. 309 00:13:07,208 --> 00:13:08,625 Look at that texture on that side, too. 310 00:13:08,792 --> 00:13:10,500 Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. 311 00:13:10,625 --> 00:13:13,167 Oh, look at the other side. 312 00:13:13,375 --> 00:13:14,750 It's, like, glazed. 313 00:13:14,875 --> 00:13:16,667 ROBERTS: Oh, does it have the glaze on it? 314 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:18,000 THOMAS: It's a color variation. 315 00:13:18,208 --> 00:13:19,667 ROBERTS: It's got, yeah, it is. 316 00:13:19,875 --> 00:13:21,500 Definitely got a color. I'm not seeing a sheen 317 00:13:21,625 --> 00:13:24,667 like the first one we found had that crosshatch glaze on it. 318 00:13:24,833 --> 00:13:26,708 -Yeah. -This one looks 319 00:13:26,875 --> 00:13:28,750 like it's either worn off or didn't have it, 320 00:13:28,875 --> 00:13:31,958 but this one has a... definitely a texture that way. 321 00:13:32,042 --> 00:13:33,583 Uh-huh. 322 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:36,583 Lines and then this side, completely different texture. 323 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:38,667 THOMAS: Oh, my gosh. 324 00:13:38,833 --> 00:13:41,042 TRAVIS: We're not sure if Chris had found another piece 325 00:13:41,250 --> 00:13:43,375 of ceramic that had been damaged by the drill, 326 00:13:43,542 --> 00:13:45,875 or a different sort of ceramic material altogether. 327 00:13:46,083 --> 00:13:47,708 It was another mystery, 328 00:13:47,875 --> 00:13:51,417 but also another clue that we need to get tested. 329 00:13:51,583 --> 00:13:54,500 Wow. Well, that's exciting that we found another piece of that. 330 00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:57,917 -Found another... Yeah. -So hopefully, 331 00:13:58,042 --> 00:13:59,667 as you sift, you can find some more of that. 332 00:13:59,875 --> 00:14:01,708 -Yeah, I'll keep looking. -Okay. 333 00:14:01,875 --> 00:14:05,042 I'm gonna go check back in with the guys and see how it's going. 334 00:14:05,208 --> 00:14:07,833 -Holler if you need any help or if you find any more. -Okay. 335 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,542 -I'll let you know what I find. -Awesome. Thank you, Chris. 336 00:14:09,708 --> 00:14:11,333 Yup. 337 00:14:11,542 --> 00:14:13,333 THOMAS: We inherited a lot of stories and legends 338 00:14:13,542 --> 00:14:14,708 from the Bigelow era 339 00:14:14,875 --> 00:14:16,208 about this mesa. 340 00:14:16,375 --> 00:14:17,875 Spacecraft going in it, 341 00:14:18,042 --> 00:14:20,500 tunnels, caverns, underground bases. 342 00:14:20,667 --> 00:14:23,875 As we get closer to getting both boreholes completed, 343 00:14:24,042 --> 00:14:26,167 I feel like it's just one step closer 344 00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:28,042 to actually getting into this mesa 345 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:31,458 and finding out what kind of mysteries lie inside. 346 00:14:37,375 --> 00:14:39,958 ERIK: I understand we're getting awfully close. 347 00:14:40,125 --> 00:14:42,792 Yup. We're about 60 feet away from poking out. 348 00:14:42,958 --> 00:14:44,333 Okay. What is your rate 349 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:46,958 -of progress now? -ALLAN: I'm able to drill 350 00:14:47,083 --> 00:14:49,500 about a foot to a foot and a half a minute. 351 00:14:49,708 --> 00:14:51,167 -Okay. -It's very soft. 352 00:14:51,333 --> 00:14:52,833 I'm moving really good through it. 353 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 We got 35 feet in two hours, 354 00:14:55,167 --> 00:14:57,458 so, it's pretty good numbers. 355 00:14:57,583 --> 00:14:59,000 ROYSTON: Wow. 356 00:14:59,167 --> 00:15:01,292 TRAVIS: It was such a relief to hear 357 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:04,292 that the drillers were making quick progress in Borehole 2. 358 00:15:04,458 --> 00:15:06,042 It made us think they were finally drilling 359 00:15:06,250 --> 00:15:08,250 between the strange objects in there 360 00:15:08,417 --> 00:15:11,042 and just cutting through the natural sandstone. 361 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:13,292 THOMAS: So that rate, we could be out of the top 362 00:15:13,458 --> 00:15:14,708 here in an hour or two. 363 00:15:14,875 --> 00:15:16,542 -I'm hoping around there. -Awesome. 364 00:15:16,708 --> 00:15:18,375 Knock on wood. 365 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:19,375 THOMAS: Well, I say 366 00:15:19,542 --> 00:15:20,542 we get to it. Let's see 367 00:15:20,708 --> 00:15:21,667 if we can get through that top. 368 00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:24,000 Awesome. Well, we'll get to going. 369 00:15:24,125 --> 00:15:25,542 -Okay. -All right, guys. Good luck. 370 00:15:33,083 --> 00:15:34,958 KYLE: Hey, Allan, let me know 371 00:15:35,083 --> 00:15:36,750 when you're getting on that last rod. 372 00:15:36,875 --> 00:15:39,292 10-4. 373 00:15:41,542 --> 00:15:44,458 TRAVIS: The drillers continued making great progress 374 00:15:44,583 --> 00:15:45,833 for the next hour. 375 00:15:46,042 --> 00:15:47,833 Everybody figured, we were past the objects 376 00:15:48,042 --> 00:15:50,708 and home free to finish Borehole 2. 377 00:15:50,875 --> 00:15:53,500 So, Thomas was up on top of the mesa 378 00:15:53,667 --> 00:15:56,292 waiting for the drill bit to break through the surface. 379 00:15:58,375 --> 00:15:59,917 How's it going? 380 00:16:09,875 --> 00:16:12,333 Yeah. What's going on? 381 00:16:19,875 --> 00:16:23,125 ALLAN: At this point, we're 540 feet into the mesa. 382 00:16:23,292 --> 00:16:25,625 We're 35 feet from the top, 383 00:16:25,792 --> 00:16:28,250 but I am hitting a substance 384 00:16:28,417 --> 00:16:30,708 that has stopped me dead in my tracks. 385 00:16:30,875 --> 00:16:32,875 -(mechanical creaking) -I'm wondering, 386 00:16:33,042 --> 00:16:35,500 what did we just stumble into? 387 00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:38,917 I honestly have no clue what's going on in that mesa. 388 00:16:39,083 --> 00:16:41,125 Copy that. 389 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:44,250 -That's with the brand-new bit. -Mm-hmm. 390 00:16:44,375 --> 00:16:46,042 At this point, what we're drilling through is... 391 00:16:46,208 --> 00:16:47,583 I have no answer for. 392 00:16:51,125 --> 00:16:54,125 (rhythmic whirring) 393 00:16:55,125 --> 00:16:56,250 THOMAS: I can hear that pretty good. 394 00:16:56,417 --> 00:16:58,875 KYLE: Yup. You can hear it, huh? 395 00:16:59,042 --> 00:17:03,000 (loud, mechanical whooshing and clanging) 396 00:17:06,375 --> 00:17:08,208 THOMAS: It's hitting something really hard. 397 00:17:08,375 --> 00:17:10,667 I want to record the sound. 398 00:17:15,583 --> 00:17:17,542 (rhythmic pulsing) 399 00:17:20,375 --> 00:17:22,792 KYLE: Yeah, it sounds different than any sandstone 400 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,208 and stuff we've been through before. 401 00:17:35,917 --> 00:17:38,208 KYLE: I wonder if it's the same substance as before. 402 00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:39,833 It's making me think a little bit 403 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,792 of metals coming off of those teeth. 404 00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:44,667 THOMAS: It's been pretty smooth sailing on the drilling 405 00:17:44,875 --> 00:17:48,917 up until we got up to about 545 feet into Borehole 2. 406 00:17:49,042 --> 00:17:52,208 The drillers hit something extremely hard. 407 00:17:52,417 --> 00:17:54,667 It's apparent by all the noise coming from the drill. 408 00:17:54,792 --> 00:17:57,875 I can tell that this is even harder than sandstone. 409 00:17:58,042 --> 00:18:00,083 (whooshing and pulsing) 410 00:18:00,292 --> 00:18:01,917 ALLAN: Hey, Kyle. You got a copy? 411 00:18:02,125 --> 00:18:04,000 Yeah, I got a copy. 412 00:18:04,208 --> 00:18:06,333 The way this is feeling, I feel like 413 00:18:06,417 --> 00:18:08,292 I'm just gliding across something, a smooth surface. 414 00:18:08,375 --> 00:18:09,958 I think we need to pull out 415 00:18:10,125 --> 00:18:11,542 and check these teeth again. 416 00:18:11,708 --> 00:18:13,292 I think that's a good idea. 417 00:18:13,458 --> 00:18:15,125 I'll meet you down by the spoils pit. 418 00:18:15,292 --> 00:18:17,833 Sounds like a plan. 419 00:18:18,042 --> 00:18:19,000 (bleep) 420 00:18:19,167 --> 00:18:20,167 It seems like 421 00:18:20,375 --> 00:18:21,542 every time we start making progress 422 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:23,042 on this drilling, 423 00:18:23,167 --> 00:18:24,542 we have to stop down for something, 424 00:18:24,750 --> 00:18:26,375 and it's just driving me crazy. 425 00:18:26,583 --> 00:18:29,125 Allan says it feels like he's hitting a smooth surface, 426 00:18:29,292 --> 00:18:31,667 so we really need to check the drill bit. 427 00:18:31,875 --> 00:18:34,583 This is disheartening because we're only 35 feet 428 00:18:34,750 --> 00:18:38,000 from breaking through the top. So, it makes me wonder 429 00:18:38,167 --> 00:18:40,292 if it was hitting more ceramic material. 430 00:18:42,083 --> 00:18:44,542 KALEB: Moment of truth, I guess. 431 00:18:44,708 --> 00:18:46,750 THOMAS: All righty. 432 00:18:50,917 --> 00:18:52,208 Hold that. 433 00:18:55,167 --> 00:18:56,500 KYLE: Go ahead and slow rotate. 434 00:18:57,417 --> 00:18:58,917 THOMAS: The fact that he sat there 435 00:18:59,083 --> 00:19:00,833 and drilled for 30 minutes... 436 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,458 ERIK: Wait a minute. 437 00:19:04,458 --> 00:19:06,875 -THOMAS: Oh, my gosh. -KALEB: Yup. Look at that thing. 438 00:19:08,042 --> 00:19:10,792 THOMAS: Half that tooth is gone. 439 00:19:12,917 --> 00:19:14,042 THOMAS: You see that tooth? 440 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:16,083 ALLAN: Yeah. 441 00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:17,958 THOMAS: You ever drill through something that will, uh, 442 00:19:18,083 --> 00:19:20,500 plow through a tooth like that? 443 00:19:20,667 --> 00:19:22,625 No. 444 00:19:22,708 --> 00:19:25,208 Oh. Look at that stud right there, right in the middle... 445 00:19:25,375 --> 00:19:27,792 between those two teeth. That thing's worn down, too. 446 00:19:29,125 --> 00:19:31,167 According to all of our previous 447 00:19:31,333 --> 00:19:33,042 ground-penetrating radar scans, 448 00:19:33,208 --> 00:19:34,708 there's one massive object 449 00:19:34,917 --> 00:19:36,542 and a bunch of smaller ones buried in the mesa. 450 00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:40,000 So, did the drill hit one of the smaller objects 451 00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:42,417 just 35 feet from the top? And if so, 452 00:19:42,542 --> 00:19:45,958 are they all covered with that ceramic material? 453 00:19:46,125 --> 00:19:48,208 JARED: If it keeps hitting right here, 454 00:19:48,375 --> 00:19:51,250 it's going weld back up again, and we're gonna be-- 455 00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:53,292 Back in the same boat. 456 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:55,667 JARED: Big trouble for sure. 457 00:19:55,833 --> 00:19:58,333 ERIK: We know from the ground-penetrating radar data 458 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:01,500 that we have something in that mesa. 459 00:20:01,708 --> 00:20:03,083 So, it is essential 460 00:20:03,292 --> 00:20:06,458 that we get this second hole through the mesa. 461 00:20:06,542 --> 00:20:07,792 KYLE: Yeah, it will take a couple days 462 00:20:07,958 --> 00:20:09,750 to get that drill replacement in. 463 00:20:09,875 --> 00:20:11,500 ERIK: You know what I liked about this conversation-- 464 00:20:11,625 --> 00:20:13,333 I haven't anyone say anything about giving up. 465 00:20:13,458 --> 00:20:15,208 -That's right. -No, I'm not going to. 466 00:20:15,375 --> 00:20:16,542 -We're too close to the top. -ERIK: That's perfect. 467 00:20:16,708 --> 00:20:18,167 -Heck no. -ALLAN: Home stretch, man. 468 00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:19,333 THOMAS: All right. Well, 469 00:20:19,542 --> 00:20:21,333 um, we'll get out of your way. 470 00:20:21,542 --> 00:20:22,750 Thank you. 471 00:20:22,917 --> 00:20:24,542 ROYSTON: Good luck, guys. 472 00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:33,250 -BRIAN: Hey, guys. -ERIK: Dr. Patchett. 473 00:20:33,417 --> 00:20:35,833 -BRIAN: Good to see you. -ERIK: Good to see you. 474 00:20:35,958 --> 00:20:37,167 -Doctor. -Hey. 475 00:20:37,375 --> 00:20:38,792 TRAVIS: The next day, 476 00:20:38,958 --> 00:20:40,542 ranch owner Brandon Fugal arranged for us 477 00:20:40,708 --> 00:20:42,958 to meet with physicist Dr. Brian Patchett 478 00:20:43,125 --> 00:20:45,083 at Utah Valley University 479 00:20:45,292 --> 00:20:47,917 to examine samples of the strange ceramic material 480 00:20:48,083 --> 00:20:49,583 that we found in the mesa. 481 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:51,667 -So, this is the lab. -Yes, sir. 482 00:20:51,833 --> 00:20:54,042 Erik, I'll have you set your samples down right here. 483 00:20:54,208 --> 00:20:56,250 If you guys want to have a seat at the SEM, 484 00:20:56,417 --> 00:20:59,667 we can talk about how, hopefully, we can help you out. 485 00:20:59,833 --> 00:21:02,583 TRAVIS: For our first test, we wanted to look at the ceramics 486 00:21:02,792 --> 00:21:05,875 through an SEM or "scanning electron microscope." 487 00:21:06,042 --> 00:21:08,292 It's a device that bombards objects with electrons 488 00:21:08,417 --> 00:21:12,250 in order to obtain magnified images of them 489 00:21:12,417 --> 00:21:15,333 up to a million times their actual size. 490 00:21:15,458 --> 00:21:17,875 Yeah, we're anxious to better understand the composition 491 00:21:18,042 --> 00:21:19,833 of the material 492 00:21:19,958 --> 00:21:21,417 that we brought to you today. 493 00:21:21,583 --> 00:21:24,292 Well, it does sound like an interesting set of specimens, 494 00:21:24,458 --> 00:21:27,000 so, I'm very interested to load it up and... 495 00:21:27,167 --> 00:21:28,708 and see for myself what you've brought in. 496 00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:30,250 All right. 497 00:21:30,417 --> 00:21:31,667 TRAVIS: We couldn't wait to see the surface 498 00:21:31,875 --> 00:21:33,500 of this material in much more detail 499 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:36,500 than our microscope on the ranch could give us. 500 00:21:36,583 --> 00:21:38,833 -ERIK: So, I've got several samples mounted. -BRIAN: Sure. 501 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,667 -So I'm going to bring these over. -Okay. 502 00:21:41,875 --> 00:21:43,417 ERIK: They go inside the instrument. 503 00:21:43,583 --> 00:21:45,292 All right, I'll close this up. 504 00:21:45,458 --> 00:21:47,333 -I am so anxious to see-- -And now we will 505 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:49,500 vacuum this down. 506 00:21:49,667 --> 00:21:51,042 There we go. 507 00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:52,542 ERIK: All right. 508 00:21:52,708 --> 00:21:54,792 Look at that surface right there. 509 00:21:57,292 --> 00:21:59,667 Oh, you can see the crosshatch pattern in it. 510 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:03,500 That doesn't look like Mother Nature. 511 00:22:03,625 --> 00:22:05,667 BRIAN: No, it doesn't. 512 00:22:07,292 --> 00:22:10,542 -Now, if I zoom into the surface... -Yes. 513 00:22:11,958 --> 00:22:13,833 This looks like something here. 514 00:22:14,042 --> 00:22:16,833 Yeah. It's raised. 515 00:22:18,208 --> 00:22:19,333 ERIK: Are we looking 516 00:22:19,458 --> 00:22:21,042 at a tool-marked surface? 517 00:22:21,208 --> 00:22:23,375 BRIAN: It looks like the geometric 518 00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:26,292 -patterns of it do resemble tooling. -ERIK: Yeah. 519 00:22:26,458 --> 00:22:27,500 TRAVIS: This almost looks 520 00:22:27,708 --> 00:22:29,375 like a circuit component. 521 00:22:29,542 --> 00:22:31,208 BRANDON: Oh, my gosh. 522 00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:33,500 TRAVIS: We couldn't be sure, but under the SEM, 523 00:22:33,708 --> 00:22:36,250 it really looked like there might be etching 524 00:22:36,417 --> 00:22:38,125 on the surface of that piece of ceramic. 525 00:22:38,292 --> 00:22:42,000 But if so, who or what could have created these patterns? 526 00:22:42,208 --> 00:22:44,750 I'm gonna reposition this a little. 527 00:22:44,875 --> 00:22:46,417 Zoom in a little bit. 528 00:22:46,542 --> 00:22:48,583 ERIK: I can see some clearly-defined, 529 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:51,708 -like, holes right now. -Oh, yeah. 530 00:22:53,542 --> 00:22:55,792 Are those holes getting bigger? 531 00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:59,625 -ERIK: Yes. I think so. -BRIAN: Yeah, yeah. 532 00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:01,417 What? 533 00:23:01,542 --> 00:23:03,250 TRAVIS: It is. It's opening up! 534 00:23:03,375 --> 00:23:05,167 BRIAN: Yeah. 535 00:23:05,333 --> 00:23:07,333 ERIK: What in the world is going on? 536 00:23:08,333 --> 00:23:10,500 TRAVIS: Holy crap. Look at that! 537 00:23:12,417 --> 00:23:15,000 BRIAN: My initial thoughts were that we were just looking 538 00:23:15,125 --> 00:23:16,333 at some simple ceramic. 539 00:23:16,542 --> 00:23:18,083 However, we were able 540 00:23:18,250 --> 00:23:21,958 to see pits beginning to appear on the surface. 541 00:23:22,083 --> 00:23:23,792 It piqued my interest. I knew 542 00:23:23,917 --> 00:23:27,458 we weren't looking at just a rock from the ground. 543 00:23:27,625 --> 00:23:30,292 This was something that had a unique property 544 00:23:30,458 --> 00:23:32,250 that I hadn't witnessed before. 545 00:23:32,417 --> 00:23:35,333 TRAVIS: What if it's the electron beam from the microscope 546 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:37,292 that's causing this? 547 00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:39,042 Let's turn it off to see if it goes back to normal. 548 00:23:39,208 --> 00:23:41,083 BRIAN: Yeah. We can do that. 549 00:23:41,208 --> 00:23:43,833 TRAVIS: We were stunned to see the surface of a solid, 550 00:23:44,042 --> 00:23:47,542 ceramic material suddenly become porous with big holes. 551 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:50,292 All I could think was that maybe 552 00:23:50,458 --> 00:23:52,667 the electron beam from the SEM was damaging it. 553 00:23:52,833 --> 00:23:55,375 BRIAN: Let's see what happens. 554 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,667 BRIAN: Okay. 555 00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:03,417 TRAVIS: All right, here we go. 556 00:24:04,875 --> 00:24:06,750 ERIK: So, that does not look as porous... 557 00:24:06,875 --> 00:24:08,292 -TRAVIS: No. -ERIK: ...as it was. 558 00:24:08,458 --> 00:24:09,667 BRIAN: Not nearly. 559 00:24:09,833 --> 00:24:12,083 I have the old screen grab. 560 00:24:12,292 --> 00:24:14,167 BRANDON: Look at that. 561 00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:15,583 BRIAN: This is healing. 562 00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:18,000 I've never seen anything 563 00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:21,417 that is capable of doing this. 564 00:24:21,583 --> 00:24:24,167 This stuff is fixing itself. 565 00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:26,792 Yes. It's healing. That's exactly right! 566 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,833 Unbelievable. 567 00:24:34,833 --> 00:24:36,375 BRIAN: This stuff is fixing itself. 568 00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:38,667 TRAVIS: Yes, it's healing. That's exactly right! 569 00:24:38,833 --> 00:24:41,417 It seems to be putting itself back together 570 00:24:41,625 --> 00:24:43,292 when the E-beam is turned off. 571 00:24:43,458 --> 00:24:45,958 TRAVIS: Is that not just crazy? 572 00:24:46,958 --> 00:24:48,542 TRAVIS: Of all the unbelievable things 573 00:24:48,708 --> 00:24:51,042 we've seen on Skinwalker Ranch, 574 00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:55,500 this ceramic material that came from more than 470 feet 575 00:24:55,667 --> 00:24:57,917 inside the mesa just raised the bar. 576 00:24:58,125 --> 00:25:01,042 While being exposed to a beam of electrons 577 00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:03,000 in a high-powered microscope, 578 00:25:03,125 --> 00:25:06,167 a bunch of holes suddenly opened on its surface. 579 00:25:06,375 --> 00:25:08,292 But when we turned the beam off, 580 00:25:08,458 --> 00:25:11,000 it morphed back to its original state. 581 00:25:11,167 --> 00:25:12,708 What is this stuff? 582 00:25:13,542 --> 00:25:15,375 Zoom further out 583 00:25:15,542 --> 00:25:17,250 and let's see if we see the crosshatches on it. 584 00:25:17,417 --> 00:25:19,417 Okay. I can do that. 585 00:25:19,625 --> 00:25:22,167 We'll close that. 586 00:25:22,292 --> 00:25:24,083 ERIK: Yeah, there we go. 587 00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:27,167 TRAVIS: Yup, the surface is closed and smooth. 588 00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:28,500 That's crazy. 589 00:25:28,667 --> 00:25:30,458 We seem to be opening up voids 590 00:25:30,625 --> 00:25:33,750 by illuminating this surface with the electron beam. 591 00:25:33,875 --> 00:25:36,917 And then when we turn the beam off and then vented the chamber, 592 00:25:37,083 --> 00:25:38,583 it goes back to its original appearance. 593 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:40,000 I think that's what we've just seen. 594 00:25:40,167 --> 00:25:41,792 I think that is what we've just seen. 595 00:25:41,958 --> 00:25:44,583 So this is an active surface. 596 00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:46,750 Yes. 597 00:25:48,750 --> 00:25:50,542 What does that mean? 598 00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:52,792 Like I said before, 599 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,292 I've worked a lot 600 00:25:54,417 --> 00:25:56,208 with highly-engineered ceramic materials 601 00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:57,542 for the space industry 602 00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:59,333 because of their heat-absorbing 603 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,542 and energy-conducting properties. 604 00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:04,833 But neither I nor the other two scientists in the lab 605 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 have ever seen a ceramic do this kind of stuff. 606 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:10,917 Well, can we do an elemental analysis of it? 607 00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:12,750 Sure. 608 00:26:12,917 --> 00:26:15,000 Well, right now, what is happening is 609 00:26:15,208 --> 00:26:17,708 we're bombarding the surface with X-rays 610 00:26:17,875 --> 00:26:19,833 and determining the energy levels 611 00:26:19,958 --> 00:26:23,458 of the electrons in the material itself 612 00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:27,083 to help define what elements are present. 613 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:28,958 TRAVIS: Okay. 614 00:26:29,125 --> 00:26:33,000 When we did our own similar scans back at the ranch, 615 00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:35,750 we were surprised to see elements like nickel, 616 00:26:35,875 --> 00:26:37,500 cobalt and thorium, 617 00:26:37,667 --> 00:26:39,500 which you don't usually see in ceramics. 618 00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:41,750 So, we wanted to confirm the content 619 00:26:41,917 --> 00:26:45,000 with this lab's much more sophisticated equipment. 620 00:26:46,042 --> 00:26:50,333 This is the analysis of the exterior of the sample. 621 00:26:50,458 --> 00:26:52,000 ERIK: So, this is just the elemental 622 00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:56,083 makeup of this sample on the surface versus the interior? 623 00:26:56,250 --> 00:26:57,292 Yeah. 624 00:26:57,458 --> 00:26:58,833 TRAVIS: So this shows 625 00:26:59,042 --> 00:27:01,583 some more elements than what we saw on the ranch. 626 00:27:01,708 --> 00:27:04,917 We got, uh-- carbon, oxygen 627 00:27:05,125 --> 00:27:07,000 -are the two most prevalent. -BRIAN: Mm-hmm. 628 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,667 And then you've got the next most prevalent, silicon, 629 00:27:09,833 --> 00:27:13,833 and then the next one is magnesium or aluminum. 630 00:27:14,042 --> 00:27:15,708 They're real close to each other. 631 00:27:15,917 --> 00:27:18,958 And then calcium and then iron. 632 00:27:19,083 --> 00:27:20,625 The amount of carbon is really interesting. 633 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:22,333 I was not expecting that. 634 00:27:22,542 --> 00:27:23,667 -I wasn't, either. -Quite a bit. 635 00:27:23,833 --> 00:27:25,833 TRAVIS: And you know 636 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,875 that's one of main ingredients of stealth material. 637 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,833 I've actually made it before. 638 00:27:30,917 --> 00:27:32,500 I covered a pickup truck with it once 639 00:27:32,667 --> 00:27:34,500 and made it invisible to police radar. 640 00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:37,458 We used charcoal, which is your carbon, 641 00:27:37,625 --> 00:27:40,292 an aluminum binding agent, 642 00:27:40,417 --> 00:27:41,875 and, basically, spray glue. 643 00:27:42,042 --> 00:27:43,708 And so, that's one of the main ingredients 644 00:27:43,875 --> 00:27:47,708 used for radar cloaking technology by the military. 645 00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:50,875 Since World War II, our military has been 646 00:27:51,083 --> 00:27:53,917 developing stealth material to make our fighter jets 647 00:27:54,042 --> 00:27:57,583 and other craft invisible to radar detection-- 648 00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:59,917 and even to the naked eye, in some cases. 649 00:28:00,083 --> 00:28:02,583 Could this be same type of material? 650 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:05,667 And could that be what this material was used for? 651 00:28:05,875 --> 00:28:08,125 BRANDON: So, what does that mean as far as 652 00:28:08,292 --> 00:28:10,333 what is in the mesa? 653 00:28:10,458 --> 00:28:12,792 Uh... I don't know. 654 00:28:12,958 --> 00:28:15,708 Can we do an elemental interior scan? 655 00:28:15,875 --> 00:28:18,167 BRIAN: Definitely. 656 00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:19,792 TRAVIS: Now that we know what the exterior 657 00:28:19,958 --> 00:28:21,333 of this material is made of, 658 00:28:21,458 --> 00:28:23,417 we need to know if those elements 659 00:28:23,583 --> 00:28:25,667 will remain consistent inside of it, too, 660 00:28:25,875 --> 00:28:29,250 or maybe we'll find even more surprises. 661 00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:31,000 ERIK: All right. 662 00:28:31,208 --> 00:28:34,125 BRIAN: All right. So, this is a purely interior scan. 663 00:28:34,292 --> 00:28:37,500 We've got oxygen, silicon, 664 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:39,583 there is some magnesium, 665 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:42,833 there's a calcium line, we've got potassium, 666 00:28:43,042 --> 00:28:44,000 some iron. 667 00:28:44,208 --> 00:28:46,500 TRAVIS: A lot of aluminum this time. 668 00:28:46,625 --> 00:28:48,167 No carbon this time, 669 00:28:48,292 --> 00:28:52,333 so the interior doesn't have carbon in it. 670 00:28:52,542 --> 00:28:54,417 I mean, the interior is clearly a different material 671 00:28:54,625 --> 00:28:56,917 -than the exterior. -Uh-huh. 672 00:28:57,083 --> 00:29:00,167 TRAVIS: This material is a lot like a sponge, 673 00:29:00,375 --> 00:29:01,833 or maybe an umbrella-- 674 00:29:02,042 --> 00:29:04,500 one material on the outside for protection, 675 00:29:04,667 --> 00:29:08,333 with another one on the inside for some different purpose. 676 00:29:08,542 --> 00:29:13,500 How do you make this material that's hard on the outside, 677 00:29:13,667 --> 00:29:15,792 but sponge-like on the inside? 678 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,750 -Yeah, I get it. Yeah. -TRAVIS: And to what end? 679 00:29:18,958 --> 00:29:22,167 TRAVIS: It could be, the exterior hull 680 00:29:22,333 --> 00:29:25,667 or protective layer of something you know, to... 681 00:29:25,875 --> 00:29:28,208 to protect it from a harsh environment. 682 00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:30,792 -ERIK: Yeah. -TRAVIS: I mean, I keep coming back to: 683 00:29:30,958 --> 00:29:33,958 this is a lot like the ceramic tiles for the space shuttle. 684 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:38,042 I don't know yet what we've got here. 685 00:29:38,208 --> 00:29:39,792 But I can't help making comparisons 686 00:29:39,958 --> 00:29:41,750 between this ceramic material 687 00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:44,375 and the ceramic tiles on the space shuttle 688 00:29:44,542 --> 00:29:45,958 for a couple of reasons. 689 00:29:46,125 --> 00:29:48,917 Space shuttle tiles are designed to protect the shuttle 690 00:29:49,083 --> 00:29:52,667 from extreme heat-- up to 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit-- 691 00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:55,292 when they reenter the Earth's atmosphere. 692 00:29:55,375 --> 00:29:57,625 They're made of coated silica ceramics 693 00:29:57,792 --> 00:30:02,125 that are very light, but able to absorb extreme amounts of heat. 694 00:30:02,292 --> 00:30:05,583 There are similar elements in the makeup of the ceramics 695 00:30:05,792 --> 00:30:06,875 that came out of the mesa, 696 00:30:07,042 --> 00:30:09,000 but their interior is different, 697 00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:10,917 and the way they responded 698 00:30:11,083 --> 00:30:12,875 to the scanning electron microscope 699 00:30:13,042 --> 00:30:14,917 was completely unexpected. 700 00:30:15,042 --> 00:30:17,625 What that means, we just don't know yet. 701 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:20,667 BRIAN: Well, I have never seen anything 702 00:30:20,875 --> 00:30:23,833 with this content that behaves this way 703 00:30:24,042 --> 00:30:26,250 that was a naturally-occurring material. 704 00:30:26,417 --> 00:30:29,083 -There's no way that's natural. -ERIK: I would agree. 705 00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:31,250 This is definitely something engineered. 706 00:30:31,417 --> 00:30:34,333 TRAVIS: So that means somebody built it. 707 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,333 -ERIK: For a purpose! Yes. -And it was built for a purpose. 708 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,750 That's right. Now our goals are 709 00:30:38,875 --> 00:30:40,208 to find out what that purpose is. 710 00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:41,833 Yeah. 711 00:30:42,042 --> 00:30:44,708 So, how does a manufactured piece of material 712 00:30:44,917 --> 00:30:48,792 with these kind of exotic properties exist, 713 00:30:48,958 --> 00:30:51,042 and what the hell was this material doing in the mesa? 714 00:30:51,167 --> 00:30:52,792 (laughing): I don't know, Brandon, 715 00:30:52,958 --> 00:30:54,333 and how did it get there? 716 00:30:54,542 --> 00:30:56,292 That's what I want to know, because I'll tell you 717 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:58,833 where it didn't come from. It didn't come 718 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,792 from any modern-day ceramics lab that I know of. 719 00:31:02,875 --> 00:31:05,000 You know, originally, the-the intent-- 720 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:06,667 and I think it made a lot of sense-- 721 00:31:06,833 --> 00:31:10,000 was to drill, at-- essentially, at all costs, 722 00:31:10,125 --> 00:31:12,667 so that we could study whatever that anomaly is. 723 00:31:12,833 --> 00:31:14,083 Now we've encountered this. 724 00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:15,792 I think we have to respond to the data, 725 00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:17,208 change our approach, 726 00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:19,083 possibly to an archaeological fashion. 727 00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:20,417 -Right? -Yeah. 728 00:31:20,542 --> 00:31:22,292 BRANDON: I want to pull the plug 729 00:31:22,458 --> 00:31:25,042 immediately on any further drilling activity. 730 00:31:25,208 --> 00:31:26,417 -Yes. -TRAVIS: Absolutely. 731 00:31:26,583 --> 00:31:27,917 BRANDON: Because we may damage 732 00:31:28,083 --> 00:31:31,333 the very thing that we are trying to study. 733 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:33,333 And I think we're going 734 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:37,542 to have to take a much more disciplined, careful approach, 735 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:41,542 because what we have extracted is... 736 00:31:41,708 --> 00:31:43,208 -It's unbelievable. -Yeah. 737 00:31:43,375 --> 00:31:46,750 We need to find the safest way to get it out of there. 738 00:31:46,917 --> 00:31:49,000 BRANDON: I think we need time to carefully 739 00:31:49,125 --> 00:31:52,292 plot our next steps to preserve 740 00:31:52,417 --> 00:31:56,125 and properly study the nature of what is in the mesa. 741 00:31:56,292 --> 00:31:58,375 Yeah, 100% agree with that. 742 00:31:58,542 --> 00:32:00,917 This is definitely something incredibly interesting, 743 00:32:01,125 --> 00:32:04,042 something I definitely didn't expect. 744 00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:06,167 So, if we find more of it, is it all right 745 00:32:06,333 --> 00:32:07,625 if we bring it back here for analysis? 746 00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:09,125 -Please do. -All right. 747 00:32:09,292 --> 00:32:11,417 BRANDON: Well, after eight years 748 00:32:11,542 --> 00:32:13,500 of scientific investigation at Skinwalker Ranch 749 00:32:13,667 --> 00:32:15,333 under our stewardship, 750 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:20,333 I think today marks a significant turning point 751 00:32:20,542 --> 00:32:22,333 that is going to take us in a whole new direction. 752 00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:24,917 -Yes. Well, thank you for the time. -BRANDON: Thank you. 753 00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:26,375 -Of course. -And I think it is time for us 754 00:32:26,542 --> 00:32:28,667 -to gather up and move on. -Yeah. Let's go. 755 00:32:28,792 --> 00:32:32,167 ERIK: I can't wait to tell the rest of the team what we found. 756 00:32:38,167 --> 00:32:40,167 THOMAS: Hey, guys. 757 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:42,167 TRAVIS: What's up, fellas? 758 00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:43,667 Pull up a seat. 759 00:32:43,833 --> 00:32:45,375 TRAVIS: After what we learned 760 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,208 about the ceramic materials at Utah Valley University, 761 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:50,500 the next morning, we met with the drillers 762 00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:54,125 to let them know about our change of plans for the mesa. 763 00:32:55,083 --> 00:32:57,125 So, uh, I asked you guys to come in here 764 00:32:57,250 --> 00:33:00,000 'cause we just come across some new data 765 00:33:00,167 --> 00:33:02,792 that is evolving the way 766 00:33:02,917 --> 00:33:04,792 that we want to tackle the mesa. 767 00:33:04,958 --> 00:33:06,250 Brandon has asked us 768 00:33:06,458 --> 00:33:08,000 to cease all drilling operations, 769 00:33:08,208 --> 00:33:10,125 effective immediately. 770 00:33:10,292 --> 00:33:12,000 -Okay. -THOMAS: But it's because 771 00:33:12,208 --> 00:33:15,667 of the things that we have found in the spoils. 772 00:33:15,875 --> 00:33:18,625 And it's paid off in a big way. 773 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,500 -Okay. -THOMAS: But... 774 00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:24,125 we don't want to risk damaging 775 00:33:24,292 --> 00:33:25,833 anything up in the mesa. 776 00:33:26,042 --> 00:33:27,583 ALEX: That's actually 777 00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:29,000 a really good idea. 778 00:33:29,208 --> 00:33:31,167 What's the sum total of the hard stuff 779 00:33:31,375 --> 00:33:32,708 -that you've drilled through? -We were kind of talking. 780 00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:34,250 And we were thinking probably around 40 feet, 781 00:33:34,417 --> 00:33:35,625 -right around there. -Wow. 782 00:33:35,792 --> 00:33:37,625 Yeah, but where did it all go? 783 00:33:37,792 --> 00:33:39,042 Yeah. Where did it all go when you drilled through it? 784 00:33:39,167 --> 00:33:42,000 Where are the pieces of it? 785 00:33:42,167 --> 00:33:43,875 There were several obstructions 786 00:33:44,042 --> 00:33:46,250 that we struggled to drill through in Borehole 2, 787 00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:50,583 from about 130 feet up to almost 500 feet. 788 00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:55,083 But we only found a few small pieces of the ceramic material. 789 00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:58,167 There should have been a lot more of them in the spoils. 790 00:33:58,333 --> 00:34:00,458 ALEX: I was saying that to you guys, 791 00:34:00,625 --> 00:34:03,167 that it's weird that we're not running into anything. 792 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,875 -You know what I mean? -TRAVIS: It's almost like it was 793 00:34:05,042 --> 00:34:06,625 -destroyed or something, completely. -ALEX: Yeah. 794 00:34:06,792 --> 00:34:09,333 You've seen that bit. It's made for taken off chunks of stuff. 795 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:11,625 Yeah, well, the destruction was mutual. 796 00:34:11,792 --> 00:34:13,417 Yeah, yeah, right. 797 00:34:13,583 --> 00:34:15,000 -Your bits were destroyed. -KALEB: I was just thinking. 798 00:34:15,167 --> 00:34:17,042 You guys went through, what, 15 teeth? 799 00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:19,833 -Yeah, we went through quite a few teeth. -Yeah. 800 00:34:20,042 --> 00:34:21,833 So, something's not adding up. 801 00:34:22,042 --> 00:34:23,625 No. Yeah. 802 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:26,917 We've speculated that we may have been chipping materials off 803 00:34:27,083 --> 00:34:30,042 of this very hard layer or object that we're running into. 804 00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:32,083 So, I think it makes a lot of sense, 805 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:36,333 as we encounter this hard material, to expect 806 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:39,542 to see large individual pieces of ceramics in the spoils, 807 00:34:39,708 --> 00:34:41,750 which we haven't seen. 808 00:34:41,875 --> 00:34:45,583 I think reanalyzing that and going through it with a smaller 809 00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:49,042 screen will definitely provide some more evidence. 810 00:34:49,208 --> 00:34:51,458 TRAVIS: I think the, uh, the trick is, 811 00:34:51,583 --> 00:34:54,708 figure out a way to non-destructively 812 00:34:54,917 --> 00:34:58,250 get some data back up in there, like a camera or something. 813 00:34:58,417 --> 00:35:02,375 -Absolutely. -TRAVIS: Put a camera in a little 814 00:35:02,542 --> 00:35:06,625 hemisphere dome and mounted it inside to the drill. 815 00:35:06,792 --> 00:35:08,750 So, the drill's like this, right, and we mounted it here, 816 00:35:08,875 --> 00:35:12,583 so we could see whatever it might be that you're hitting. 817 00:35:12,708 --> 00:35:14,167 Yeah. We can try that. 818 00:35:14,292 --> 00:35:15,500 Yeah. As much as we set our sights 819 00:35:15,708 --> 00:35:17,000 on having these two parallel holes, 820 00:35:17,167 --> 00:35:18,792 which, yes, I want, you know, 821 00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:21,042 this is a different kind of success, 822 00:35:21,208 --> 00:35:22,833 and we're simply pivoting to a different way 823 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,667 of engaging with what's in that hill. 824 00:35:24,875 --> 00:35:26,667 THOMAS: Well, I'm excited 825 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,167 to go get this head and see what we got to do to modify it 826 00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:31,750 and find the camera. 827 00:35:31,875 --> 00:35:33,625 So, I say we get this done. 828 00:35:33,792 --> 00:35:35,083 -Yup. -(people voicing assent) 829 00:35:35,208 --> 00:35:35,917 I'm gonna go do some camera research. 830 00:35:36,083 --> 00:35:37,208 That's a good idea. 831 00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:47,375 TRAVIS: Later that day, while we were working 832 00:35:47,542 --> 00:35:49,917 on getting a new camera to investigate Borehole 2, 833 00:35:50,042 --> 00:35:52,167 Chris Roberts was using 834 00:35:52,292 --> 00:35:53,958 his smaller sifting screen 835 00:35:54,083 --> 00:35:56,375 to carefully search for more ceramics 836 00:35:56,542 --> 00:35:59,667 and other evidence of what's buried in the mesa. 837 00:36:03,417 --> 00:36:05,375 (laughs) 838 00:36:10,333 --> 00:36:12,250 ROBERTS: Hey. You guys got a copy? This is Chris. 839 00:36:13,625 --> 00:36:16,167 THOMAS: Hey, Chris. We got a copy. Go ahead. 840 00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:18,417 I got something kind of curious over here. 841 00:36:18,542 --> 00:36:20,833 You guys might want to come take a look at it. 842 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,083 THOMAS: All righty. 843 00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:23,458 We'll head right over. 844 00:36:23,583 --> 00:36:25,542 Thanks. 845 00:36:27,083 --> 00:36:28,667 TRAVIS: When Chris called us and said 846 00:36:28,792 --> 00:36:30,792 he found something curious in the spoils, 847 00:36:30,958 --> 00:36:34,583 we figured it must be a new clue of some kind. Hopefully, 848 00:36:34,708 --> 00:36:37,500 something that would propel our investigation forward. 849 00:36:37,667 --> 00:36:41,167 But no one expected what he was about to show us. 850 00:36:42,542 --> 00:36:44,625 ERIK: I heard about something curious. 851 00:36:44,708 --> 00:36:50,250 Uh, well, I'm going through the 496-to-498-foot level. 852 00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:53,708 So, it's a really small, concise level, right? 853 00:36:53,875 --> 00:36:55,125 TRAVIS: Yeah. 854 00:36:55,292 --> 00:36:58,167 Um... and then I found that in there. 855 00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:00,292 Is that money? 856 00:37:00,417 --> 00:37:02,458 -What on Earth? -It's money. 857 00:37:03,542 --> 00:37:05,917 It's a 1964 858 00:37:06,042 --> 00:37:07,833 U.S. nickel. 859 00:37:08,042 --> 00:37:11,000 Wow. 1964, man. 860 00:37:11,167 --> 00:37:12,875 Check it out. 861 00:37:14,792 --> 00:37:16,542 ERIK: Lots of things come to mind 862 00:37:16,708 --> 00:37:18,458 when I hear about a coin being found in the spoils. 863 00:37:18,625 --> 00:37:22,250 Is it coming from hundreds of feet within the mesa? 864 00:37:22,458 --> 00:37:25,333 Could it have somehow fallen from the surface 865 00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:27,708 near the spoils pit, 866 00:37:27,875 --> 00:37:32,042 made its way into that slurry and gotten vacuumed out? 867 00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:35,333 And ultimately, what does it mean to our investigation? 868 00:37:35,417 --> 00:37:38,667 It's got really heavy wear and patina on it 869 00:37:38,875 --> 00:37:41,333 that, in a way, kind of matches, you know, 870 00:37:41,458 --> 00:37:43,875 the iron oxide we're finding in there and the gypsum. 871 00:37:44,042 --> 00:37:47,375 So, it looks very similar with the orange and the pink colors. 872 00:37:47,542 --> 00:37:49,125 ERIK: So, I think what I'm reading into what you're saying-- 873 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:50,958 -it's been there a long time. -Yeah. 874 00:37:51,042 --> 00:37:54,917 How would a nickel even get inside the mesa that far? 875 00:37:55,042 --> 00:37:57,250 'Cause there's no signs of there being an entrance, 876 00:37:57,417 --> 00:38:00,917 an opening, something covered up, buried. 877 00:38:01,042 --> 00:38:02,500 How did that get in there? 878 00:38:02,667 --> 00:38:04,125 ROBERTS: Something they do 879 00:38:04,292 --> 00:38:06,000 archeologically, when you do an excavation, 880 00:38:06,167 --> 00:38:08,667 you throw a new coin in it. 881 00:38:08,833 --> 00:38:12,208 And then you backfill it so that you know when that was dug. 882 00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:14,458 That suggests that somebody did 883 00:38:14,583 --> 00:38:16,125 an archeological excavation 884 00:38:16,292 --> 00:38:18,000 -in 1964. -ROBERTS: Yes. 885 00:38:22,875 --> 00:38:25,833 That suggests that somebody did an archeological excavation 886 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,125 in 1964. 887 00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:29,208 ROBERTS: That is something 888 00:38:29,375 --> 00:38:30,333 you do when you backfill. 889 00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:33,000 TRAVIS: That would mean 890 00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:34,333 somebody did get something out of there, 891 00:38:34,458 --> 00:38:36,000 and then they backfilled it. 892 00:38:36,125 --> 00:38:38,167 It would certainly seem to imply that. 893 00:38:38,375 --> 00:38:41,250 TRAVIS: According to Chris, who is a professional archaeologist, 894 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:43,625 it's been common practice for decades 895 00:38:43,792 --> 00:38:45,833 that when archaeological digs are completed, 896 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,583 a coin with the exact year is left in the backfill. 897 00:38:49,708 --> 00:38:51,917 It's a time stamp to mark the dig 898 00:38:52,083 --> 00:38:55,250 in case someone else comes along later and rediscovers it. 899 00:38:55,417 --> 00:38:57,292 So, who was here back in 1964? 900 00:38:57,458 --> 00:38:59,833 What did they find? 901 00:39:00,042 --> 00:39:04,083 And what was left behind that we're now rediscovering? 902 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:06,375 1964. 903 00:39:06,542 --> 00:39:09,875 That gives us a period to look through records. 904 00:39:10,042 --> 00:39:12,208 And we can also review any historic aerial photos 905 00:39:12,375 --> 00:39:14,833 of the property, too. 906 00:39:15,042 --> 00:39:16,000 Isn't that something? 907 00:39:16,125 --> 00:39:17,500 Could there have been 908 00:39:17,667 --> 00:39:20,958 an archeological or other excavation 909 00:39:21,083 --> 00:39:23,083 on the mesa at the drill site? 910 00:39:23,250 --> 00:39:26,042 If so, why? 911 00:39:26,208 --> 00:39:27,833 What could have happened there? 912 00:39:28,042 --> 00:39:31,667 Maybe there's a connection between the date on that nickel 913 00:39:31,792 --> 00:39:35,333 and these unusual ceramic and metal materials coming 914 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,333 from hundreds of feet within the mesa. 915 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:38,667 There's got to be a story here, 916 00:39:38,875 --> 00:39:41,958 and I want to find out what that story is. 917 00:39:42,167 --> 00:39:45,833 How did that get in there? And why? 918 00:39:46,042 --> 00:39:47,208 I still don't feel like I have the answer to that question. 919 00:39:47,375 --> 00:39:49,250 I don't, either. But we do know 920 00:39:49,375 --> 00:39:50,667 is we found ceramic material 921 00:39:50,875 --> 00:39:52,500 -in there that shouldn't have been there. -Yes. 922 00:39:52,708 --> 00:39:55,500 And we found a nickel from 1964. 923 00:39:56,625 --> 00:39:57,958 This is certainly interesting. 924 00:39:58,125 --> 00:40:00,292 TRAVIS: We're gonna change our approach to this 925 00:40:00,458 --> 00:40:02,625 -and look through the archives. -ERIK: Yes, we are. 926 00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:06,500 TRAVIS: Keep finding crazy stuff, man. 927 00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:08,125 -I'll keep looking. -Keep looking, man. 928 00:40:08,292 --> 00:40:10,208 -Good stuff. Good stuff. -Thanks for this. 929 00:40:10,417 --> 00:40:12,500 -All right, man. -Okay, I'll catalog this. 930 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,583 ERIK: The fact that we're finding this 1964 nickel 931 00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:23,458 and potentially some relatively modern materials, 932 00:40:23,583 --> 00:40:26,167 including the ceramic and some metal fragments 933 00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:29,667 at the drill site, only adds 934 00:40:29,875 --> 00:40:33,750 to the puzzling nature of the mesa itself. 935 00:40:33,875 --> 00:40:36,375 At this point, I think it is very clear 936 00:40:36,542 --> 00:40:39,125 that what we're looking at is highly unusual. 937 00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:41,458 It begs for an explanation. 938 00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:44,333 So, it's very important to get our hands 939 00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:48,917 and to get our eyes on whatever it is that's inside the mesa. 940 00:40:49,042 --> 00:40:51,792 TRAVIS: Did somebody find something 941 00:40:51,958 --> 00:40:55,208 unbelievable in the mesa and take part of it away? 942 00:40:55,417 --> 00:40:57,917 Or did they find something and decide 943 00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:01,250 it was out of this world, so they covered it back up? 944 00:41:01,417 --> 00:41:04,083 This mystery just got a whole lot deeper, 945 00:41:04,250 --> 00:41:05,542 and we're gonna keep digging 946 00:41:05,708 --> 00:41:07,833 until we get to the bottom of it. 947 00:41:08,875 --> 00:41:11,750 BRANDON: After years of constant difficulty 948 00:41:11,958 --> 00:41:14,917 with trying to access what lies within the mesa, 949 00:41:15,083 --> 00:41:19,417 we are closer than ever before to getting the answers, 950 00:41:19,583 --> 00:41:21,042 what may lie within the mesa 951 00:41:21,208 --> 00:41:24,042 that is involved with all of the strange phenomena 952 00:41:24,208 --> 00:41:29,000 that we are seeing and documenting at Skinwalker Ranch. 953 00:41:33,875 --> 00:41:36,750 THOMAS: What the heck do we got inside this mesa? 954 00:41:36,875 --> 00:41:38,417 TRAVIS: I can't wait to run instruments 955 00:41:38,583 --> 00:41:40,125 down that tube and see what we can find out. 956 00:41:40,333 --> 00:41:41,375 THOMAS: Down in the hole. 957 00:41:41,542 --> 00:41:42,667 This should go fairly easy. 958 00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:44,458 -ERIK: Oh, wow. -TRAVIS: What is it? 959 00:41:44,583 --> 00:41:45,458 JAN: This thing is six 960 00:41:45,625 --> 00:41:46,583 feet thick, 961 00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:48,667 and then we see 962 00:41:48,792 --> 00:41:50,667 other little bits and pieces further down. 963 00:41:50,875 --> 00:41:52,417 That is just unbelievable. 964 00:41:52,583 --> 00:41:54,333 This material is a superconductor. 965 00:41:54,458 --> 00:41:55,500 ERIK: That just makes 966 00:41:55,708 --> 00:41:56,875 no sense to me at all. 967 00:41:57,042 --> 00:41:58,333 TRAVIS: It does if it's like 968 00:41:58,458 --> 00:41:59,583 a space shuttle tile. 969 00:41:59,792 --> 00:42:01,625 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 71030

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