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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,001 --> 00:00:04,280 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:04,383 --> 00:00:07,490 Horrible as it may sound, evil does exist. 3 00:00:07,593 --> 00:00:09,664 Some people are just plain evil. 4 00:00:09,768 --> 00:00:11,770 [camera shutter clicking] 5 00:00:11,873 --> 00:00:14,669 When bodies become objects 6 00:00:14,773 --> 00:00:17,948 of someone's hatred, it becomes personal. 7 00:00:18,052 --> 00:00:20,710 It tends to show anger. 8 00:00:20,813 --> 00:00:23,333 It tends to show rage. 9 00:00:23,437 --> 00:00:25,335 They want to do more than kill them, 10 00:00:25,439 --> 00:00:26,405 They want to destroy them. 11 00:00:26,509 --> 00:00:33,447 12 00:00:40,902 --> 00:00:44,665 We are in Hunt County, Texas, 13 00:00:44,768 --> 00:00:47,702 which is the Blackland Prairie part of Texas. 14 00:00:47,806 --> 00:00:51,258 This is really expansive, flat land. 15 00:00:51,361 --> 00:00:54,123 You can buy a big piece of land out here, 16 00:00:54,226 --> 00:00:56,470 do whatever you want with it. 17 00:00:56,573 --> 00:00:59,473 I like the wide open spaces. 18 00:00:59,576 --> 00:01:01,233 My closest neighbors is about a quarter of a mile away, 19 00:01:01,337 --> 00:01:03,028 either direction. 20 00:01:03,132 --> 00:01:06,100 It's just a very country atmosphere. 21 00:01:06,204 --> 00:01:08,275 These are people who work hard. 22 00:01:08,378 --> 00:01:09,862 On Sundays, they go to church. 23 00:01:09,966 --> 00:01:12,279 And they feel very strongly 24 00:01:12,382 --> 00:01:16,179 about upholding their traditional lifestyle. 25 00:01:16,283 --> 00:01:18,975 Texas culture is very conservative, 26 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:22,082 but it's also the rugged individualism. 27 00:01:22,185 --> 00:01:23,876 Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. 28 00:01:23,980 --> 00:01:25,326 Don't expect a handout. 29 00:01:25,430 --> 00:01:28,364 30 00:01:28,467 --> 00:01:30,883 Got the Royse City Bulldogs 31 00:01:30,987 --> 00:01:32,782 advertised on the water tower. 32 00:01:32,885 --> 00:01:34,887 I assume that's the high-school football team. 33 00:01:34,991 --> 00:01:38,063 Royse City definitely has 34 00:01:38,167 --> 00:01:41,308 that Old West aesthetic. 35 00:01:41,411 --> 00:01:44,207 I'm the former mayor of Royse City, Texas. 36 00:01:46,002 --> 00:01:48,867 I grew up in Royse City. I've lived here my entire life. 37 00:01:48,970 --> 00:01:53,251 I mean, it's just a very all-American small town. 38 00:01:53,354 --> 00:01:55,701 Royse City is a fabulous community. 39 00:01:55,805 --> 00:01:57,910 It's very neighborly, very friendly. 40 00:01:58,014 --> 00:02:00,396 It's like family. 41 00:02:00,499 --> 00:02:03,537 A lot of the history here is listening to the old-timers 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,816 talk about their good old days. 43 00:02:06,919 --> 00:02:09,094 In October of 2005, 44 00:02:09,198 --> 00:02:11,476 a couple in their 40s, new empty-nesters 45 00:02:11,579 --> 00:02:13,443 decided to start a new chapter of their lives 46 00:02:13,547 --> 00:02:15,204 and move here to Royse City. 47 00:02:15,307 --> 00:02:17,033 Tragically, they were found brutally murdered 48 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:18,517 in that new home. 49 00:02:18,621 --> 00:02:22,314 50 00:02:22,418 --> 00:02:25,317 On October 18, 2005, 51 00:02:25,421 --> 00:02:27,906 Dennis and Norma Woodruff hadn't been heard from 52 00:02:28,009 --> 00:02:29,494 for several days. 53 00:02:29,597 --> 00:02:33,394 A friend of the family went to check on them. 54 00:02:33,498 --> 00:02:37,087 He discovered they were both deceased 55 00:02:37,191 --> 00:02:39,469 from some kind of trauma. 56 00:02:39,573 --> 00:02:41,264 The Hunt County Sheriff's Department 57 00:02:41,368 --> 00:02:43,404 responded to the scene. 58 00:02:56,831 --> 00:02:59,213 Dennis had a gunshot wound to the face, 59 00:02:59,317 --> 00:03:01,146 then he had multiple stab wounds 60 00:03:01,250 --> 00:03:03,217 in the neck and chest area. 61 00:03:03,321 --> 00:03:06,220 Dennis was so unaware of what was about to occur 62 00:03:06,324 --> 00:03:08,291 that he still had a cup in his hand. 63 00:03:08,395 --> 00:03:10,328 At the time he was shot, 64 00:03:10,431 --> 00:03:11,432 would've had to have been looking 65 00:03:11,536 --> 00:03:13,365 right down the barrel of the gun 66 00:03:13,469 --> 00:03:16,057 right at the individual who was pulling the trigger. 67 00:03:16,161 --> 00:03:20,303 Norma was shot three times in the face, once in the neck, 68 00:03:20,407 --> 00:03:22,340 once in the hand, 69 00:03:22,443 --> 00:03:25,446 as if she threw her hand up to try to protect herself. 70 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:28,311 She was also stabbed. 71 00:03:28,415 --> 00:03:31,314 This scene was brutal in a way 72 00:03:31,418 --> 00:03:34,248 that I've never really seen before. 73 00:03:34,352 --> 00:03:36,630 Very bloody, very violent. 74 00:03:36,733 --> 00:03:38,148 Based on the way 75 00:03:38,252 --> 00:03:41,290 the blood spatter appeared at the scene, 76 00:03:41,393 --> 00:03:44,154 it was obviously a blitz attack with a firearm. 77 00:03:44,258 --> 00:03:46,502 The knife wounds were secondary, 78 00:03:46,605 --> 00:03:50,299 which would've been post-mortem or post-death. 79 00:03:50,402 --> 00:03:53,336 That tends to show rage. 80 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,305 It tends to show personal. 81 00:03:56,408 --> 00:03:59,031 "I'm very angry at you. I want to eliminate you. 82 00:03:59,135 --> 00:04:01,275 I want to destroy you." 83 00:04:01,379 --> 00:04:05,037 During the search, I found a .45-caliber bullet 84 00:04:05,141 --> 00:04:06,970 embedded in the couch. 85 00:04:07,074 --> 00:04:11,216 There was a trail of blood leading from the couch 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,011 to the bathroom. 87 00:04:13,114 --> 00:04:15,047 There was trace amounts of blood 88 00:04:15,151 --> 00:04:17,774 present in the bathtub, 89 00:04:17,878 --> 00:04:21,571 which would indicate that the individual took a shower. 90 00:04:21,675 --> 00:04:25,575 There was also blood found in the adjacent bedroom. 91 00:04:25,679 --> 00:04:30,442 We didn't find signs of burglary, robbery, or theft. 92 00:04:30,546 --> 00:04:34,929 It had to be someone close who knew Dennis and Norma. 93 00:04:35,033 --> 00:04:38,519 94 00:04:38,623 --> 00:04:41,833 My name is Bonnie Wilson. 95 00:04:41,936 --> 00:04:44,387 Dennis was my oldest son. 96 00:04:44,491 --> 00:04:48,460 He loved helping people, and he loved music. 97 00:04:48,564 --> 00:04:51,705 He was in the Dolly Parton fan club. 98 00:04:51,808 --> 00:04:55,225 And he was just a lot of fun. 99 00:04:55,329 --> 00:04:58,125 Dennis met Norma in high school. 100 00:04:58,228 --> 00:05:01,301 She loved horses. He never had ridden a horse. 101 00:05:01,404 --> 00:05:03,717 They both complemented each other. 102 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:07,583 They had two children, Brandon and Charlie. 103 00:05:07,686 --> 00:05:10,551 Dennis took care of everyone. 104 00:05:10,655 --> 00:05:13,209 And then all of a sudden, he was gone. 105 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:15,280 What is it? 106 00:05:15,384 --> 00:05:18,214 "God won't put you through anything that... 107 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,596 [voice breaking] More than you can bear." 108 00:05:26,947 --> 00:05:29,398 Right now we're going to meet with Bonnie Wilson, 109 00:05:29,501 --> 00:05:31,814 who is Dennis' mother. 110 00:05:31,917 --> 00:05:33,954 And she's gonna tell us a little bit more 111 00:05:34,057 --> 00:05:36,370 about her son and the family that he built. 112 00:05:36,474 --> 00:05:39,097 [knocking on door] 113 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,376 Ms. Bonnie, hi. - Hi. 114 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,413 - How are you? - So nice to see you. 115 00:05:44,516 --> 00:05:46,587 It is so nice to meet you. 116 00:05:46,691 --> 00:05:48,278 For Dennis and Norma, 117 00:05:48,382 --> 00:05:52,593 what was their world like in the fall of 2005? 118 00:05:52,697 --> 00:05:55,044 Yeah, well, they hadn't been at Royse City very long. 119 00:05:55,147 --> 00:05:57,667 He bought that house in August, 120 00:05:57,771 --> 00:05:59,531 and they were in the process of moving 121 00:05:59,635 --> 00:06:02,120 into the new house in September. 122 00:06:02,223 --> 00:06:04,605 They had still had the Heath house. 123 00:06:04,709 --> 00:06:06,814 Were the kids still living with them? 124 00:06:06,918 --> 00:06:10,646 No, Charlie had went off to school in Magnolia. 125 00:06:10,749 --> 00:06:13,407 And Brandon was starting college. 126 00:06:13,511 --> 00:06:15,823 So they were down-sizing for that reason. 127 00:06:15,927 --> 00:06:18,792 Were they also into animals, like Norma? 128 00:06:18,895 --> 00:06:21,484 Charlie showed rabbits at the 4-H, 129 00:06:21,588 --> 00:06:23,693 and Brandon showed sheep. 130 00:06:23,797 --> 00:06:26,040 Both children rode horses. 131 00:06:26,144 --> 00:06:28,318 When you lost your son... 132 00:06:28,422 --> 00:06:30,113 I can't imagine. 133 00:06:30,217 --> 00:06:31,943 I have a son. 134 00:06:32,046 --> 00:06:33,600 We were really close. 135 00:06:33,703 --> 00:06:35,498 He called me nearly every day. 136 00:06:35,602 --> 00:06:37,086 He called me on Saturday, 137 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:39,916 and I didn't hear from him on Monday, so that-- 138 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:42,609 You know, I didn't know what was going on. 139 00:06:42,712 --> 00:06:45,025 And then my son Randy came by, 140 00:06:45,128 --> 00:06:49,029 and he said something had happened to Dennis... 141 00:06:49,132 --> 00:06:51,514 and that he was gone. 142 00:06:51,618 --> 00:06:54,655 It was the next day, 143 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:57,209 and they said they had ruled that it was a homicide. 144 00:06:57,313 --> 00:06:59,349 145 00:06:59,453 --> 00:07:00,834 You've lost your son. 146 00:07:00,937 --> 00:07:02,801 You've lost your daughter-in-law. 147 00:07:02,905 --> 00:07:06,011 Law enforcement sits you down and says it's a homicide. 148 00:07:06,115 --> 00:07:08,980 What goes through your mind at that point? 149 00:07:09,083 --> 00:07:10,395 I couldn't imagine 150 00:07:10,499 --> 00:07:13,363 why anybody would want to kill my son. 151 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:16,470 People in Royse City-- they were scared. 152 00:07:16,574 --> 00:07:18,645 They didn't lock their doors, now they do. 153 00:07:18,748 --> 00:07:21,475 They don't sleep with their windows open anymore. 154 00:07:21,579 --> 00:07:23,477 There was always gonna be fear or doubt 155 00:07:23,581 --> 00:07:25,997 of whether or not they're gonna be next. 156 00:07:27,999 --> 00:07:31,485 When the news first came out about the murder, 157 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:34,833 of course, we didn't know who did it. 158 00:07:34,937 --> 00:07:36,490 It's kind of scary 'cause you're thinking, 159 00:07:36,594 --> 00:07:38,423 "Is this somebody roaming around, 160 00:07:38,527 --> 00:07:40,252 you know, doing this in our community?" 161 00:07:40,356 --> 00:07:42,220 The murders took place 162 00:07:42,323 --> 00:07:44,878 in this Royse City mobile home in mid-October. 163 00:07:44,981 --> 00:07:47,639 Investigators say there were no signs of a struggle, 164 00:07:47,743 --> 00:07:50,918 and it appeared the victims knew their attacker. 165 00:07:51,022 --> 00:07:52,541 I thought, 166 00:07:52,644 --> 00:07:54,577 "Oh, I'd never heard of a murder in Royse City, 167 00:07:54,681 --> 00:07:56,130 you know, all my life," 168 00:07:56,234 --> 00:07:59,064 and I've been here 82 years. 169 00:07:59,168 --> 00:08:01,446 We are driving into Greenville right now, 170 00:08:01,550 --> 00:08:03,172 which is the county seat. 171 00:08:03,275 --> 00:08:05,450 We are going to meet with Katherine Ferguson, 172 00:08:05,554 --> 00:08:08,004 who is a local attorney in Hunt County, 173 00:08:08,108 --> 00:08:10,317 and she's going to explain to us 174 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:12,526 the complexities of this case. 175 00:08:12,630 --> 00:08:14,390 My name is Katherine Ferguson, 176 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,288 and I am from Greenville, Texas. 177 00:08:16,392 --> 00:08:17,911 This is my hometown. 178 00:08:18,014 --> 00:08:21,017 When my parents first moved here, believe it or not, 179 00:08:21,121 --> 00:08:22,881 people didn't lock their doors at night. 180 00:08:22,985 --> 00:08:27,058 The murders in 2005 were quite a shock. 181 00:08:27,161 --> 00:08:29,819 And then, of course, there was the usual pressure 182 00:08:29,923 --> 00:08:32,891 in a small community to try to get answers. 183 00:08:32,995 --> 00:08:35,135 184 00:08:35,238 --> 00:08:38,345 Can you take me back to October, 2005? 185 00:08:38,448 --> 00:08:41,969 When this discovery is made... 186 00:08:42,073 --> 00:08:45,179 does news that it is a murder travel fast, 187 00:08:45,283 --> 00:08:46,802 or is that kept under wraps? 188 00:08:46,905 --> 00:08:49,425 Law enforcement tries their best to keep under wraps 189 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:51,151 cause of death. 190 00:08:51,254 --> 00:08:52,635 They want to keep it quiet 191 00:08:52,739 --> 00:08:55,776 because it helps an elimination of suspects. 192 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,778 Who did they start looking at? 193 00:08:57,882 --> 00:09:00,091 Who are the people they start zeroing in on? 194 00:09:00,194 --> 00:09:02,093 Jeffery Collins, a Texas Ranger, 195 00:09:02,196 --> 00:09:04,060 was the lead investigator on the case. 196 00:09:04,164 --> 00:09:07,098 They started questioning the family first 197 00:09:07,201 --> 00:09:10,342 to try to piece together how this may have happened. 198 00:09:10,446 --> 00:09:14,001 You know, did anybody say, "Oh, they've got enemies"? 199 00:09:14,105 --> 00:09:16,728 Or, you know, "Who would want to hurt these people?" 200 00:09:16,832 --> 00:09:19,593 They didn't have any answers for that, 201 00:09:19,697 --> 00:09:21,871 but before law enforcement 202 00:09:21,975 --> 00:09:25,116 has released the news that there's a murder, 203 00:09:25,219 --> 00:09:27,877 there's a call to the Sheriff's Office. 204 00:09:27,981 --> 00:09:31,156 They need to look very closely at Brandon Woodruff. 205 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:34,953 Brandon was their only son and the youngest. 206 00:09:35,057 --> 00:09:36,990 The caller says that Brandon 207 00:09:37,093 --> 00:09:40,303 isn't who he presents himself to be. 208 00:09:40,407 --> 00:09:44,031 Where was Brandon the night of his parents' death? 209 00:09:44,135 --> 00:09:48,139 Dennis and Norma Woodruff were last known to be alive 210 00:09:48,242 --> 00:09:50,555 sometime on Sunday night, 211 00:09:50,659 --> 00:09:53,938 and Brandon had come in that weekend. 212 00:09:54,041 --> 00:09:55,905 He had dinner with his parents Sunday night. 213 00:09:56,009 --> 00:09:58,149 So is Brandon the last person 214 00:09:58,252 --> 00:10:00,323 to see his parents alive? 215 00:10:00,427 --> 00:10:02,705 Well, law enforcement thinks Brandon is the last person 216 00:10:02,809 --> 00:10:05,156 to see his parents alive. 217 00:10:05,259 --> 00:10:07,054 Brandon was going to school at the time 218 00:10:07,158 --> 00:10:09,885 about four hours away from Royse City, 219 00:10:09,988 --> 00:10:11,990 and he would come home on the weekends 220 00:10:12,094 --> 00:10:13,854 and he would help around the house. 221 00:10:13,958 --> 00:10:15,822 He would help take care of the animals. 222 00:10:15,925 --> 00:10:17,789 My name is Scott Poggensee, 223 00:10:17,893 --> 00:10:21,413 and like Brandon, I grew up in small-town Texas, 224 00:10:21,517 --> 00:10:25,107 and I started a podcast called the "American Justice Podcast" 225 00:10:25,210 --> 00:10:27,868 because of this case. 226 00:10:27,972 --> 00:10:29,870 The day after the bodies were found, 227 00:10:29,974 --> 00:10:33,460 investigators really start to hone in on Brandon 228 00:10:33,563 --> 00:10:36,083 because there's a woman calling 229 00:10:36,187 --> 00:10:38,948 that may have information about their investigation. 230 00:10:39,052 --> 00:10:41,951 The caller identified herself as Norma Etherington, 231 00:10:42,055 --> 00:10:44,851 the mother of one of Brandon's friends. 232 00:10:44,954 --> 00:10:47,232 Norma Etherington says to the investigators, 233 00:10:47,336 --> 00:10:50,028 "You really need to talk to my son Mike." 234 00:10:50,132 --> 00:10:52,237 And who is Mike Etherington in the community? 235 00:10:52,341 --> 00:10:56,690 Mike Etherington was a member of the gang of kids 236 00:10:56,794 --> 00:10:59,693 that Brandon ran with when he was at high school. 237 00:10:59,797 --> 00:11:03,766 They were the cowboy kids, the blue jeans and boots, 238 00:11:03,870 --> 00:11:07,045 showing animals, and that kind of thing. 239 00:11:07,149 --> 00:11:11,360 Mike Etherington inserted himself into the investigation 240 00:11:11,463 --> 00:11:13,362 before they even contacted him. 241 00:11:13,465 --> 00:11:14,639 He called them. 242 00:11:14,743 --> 00:11:16,572 So what does Mike Etherington 243 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:17,953 tell the Rangers? 244 00:11:18,056 --> 00:11:21,681 He talked about a MySpace page, 245 00:11:21,784 --> 00:11:24,614 where Brandon allegedly had posted, 246 00:11:24,718 --> 00:11:26,478 "I [bleep] hate my parents. 247 00:11:26,582 --> 00:11:28,204 I wish they would die." 248 00:11:28,308 --> 00:11:31,621 You have Mike saying, "Look at Brandon.: 249 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:33,244 Mm-hmm. 250 00:11:33,347 --> 00:11:35,798 Does anybody else point the finger at Brandon? 251 00:11:35,902 --> 00:11:37,075 Brandon's girlfriend was Morgan Lee. 252 00:11:37,179 --> 00:11:39,871 He had been over to her house to see her 253 00:11:39,975 --> 00:11:42,356 that weekend that he had come back from school. 254 00:11:42,460 --> 00:11:44,289 And at their house, 255 00:11:44,393 --> 00:11:47,637 they had had a Colt .45 Cowboy Load pistol. 256 00:11:47,741 --> 00:11:49,225 Mm-hmm. 257 00:11:49,329 --> 00:11:51,883 Her mother after the Woodruffs had died, 258 00:11:51,987 --> 00:11:53,954 she noticed that it was missing, 259 00:11:54,058 --> 00:11:55,956 along with a couple of the bullets. 260 00:12:09,936 --> 00:12:11,351 A .45 Long Colt-- 261 00:12:11,454 --> 00:12:14,078 it's a long, old, Western-type revolver, 262 00:12:14,181 --> 00:12:15,838 which would be consistent 263 00:12:15,942 --> 00:12:18,116 with the bullets that we found at the scene. 264 00:12:18,220 --> 00:12:20,291 That's a clue. 265 00:12:20,394 --> 00:12:25,365 That would tend to show that someone in particular 266 00:12:25,468 --> 00:12:29,679 is responsible for the death of his parents. 267 00:12:29,783 --> 00:12:34,236 268 00:12:40,518 --> 00:12:41,761 Mm-hmm. 269 00:12:43,555 --> 00:12:46,006 When Brandon was interviewed, 270 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:49,320 he talked about his parents had a really loving relationship, 271 00:12:49,423 --> 00:12:50,770 best parents a kid could ever have, 272 00:12:50,873 --> 00:12:52,150 really supportive. 273 00:12:52,254 --> 00:12:54,221 Nothing that spoke ill of his parents? 274 00:12:54,325 --> 00:12:56,223 Certainly nothing that spoke ill of his parents, no. 275 00:12:56,327 --> 00:12:57,121 Uh-huh. 276 00:13:04,991 --> 00:13:07,027 Then they start asking Brandon questions, 277 00:13:07,131 --> 00:13:09,961 and Brandon gives them a list of, 278 00:13:10,065 --> 00:13:11,929 "This is what I did that night." 279 00:13:19,419 --> 00:13:20,282 Mm-hmm. 280 00:13:25,494 --> 00:13:28,428 After he had dinner with his parents that Sunday night, 281 00:13:28,531 --> 00:13:31,155 he went over to the Heath house to take care of the animals. 282 00:13:46,446 --> 00:13:47,965 Okay. 283 00:13:55,041 --> 00:13:58,354 Now, from here, Brandon goes where? 284 00:13:58,458 --> 00:14:01,530 Brandon went to go meet people at Denny's, 285 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:06,569 and then they go to a club in Far North Dallas. 286 00:14:06,673 --> 00:14:09,158 Brandon tells Ranger Collins 287 00:14:09,262 --> 00:14:11,712 that they stayed at the club a couple hours, 288 00:14:11,816 --> 00:14:14,301 and then they went back to Abilene Christian University 289 00:14:14,405 --> 00:14:16,269 to go to school the next morning. 290 00:14:16,372 --> 00:14:18,823 Well, during the investigation, 291 00:14:18,927 --> 00:14:21,550 it had come to Ranger Collins' attention 292 00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:24,725 that the neighbor at the Heath house had called 293 00:14:24,829 --> 00:14:26,831 and said that he had information 294 00:14:26,935 --> 00:14:28,522 about this crime as well. 295 00:14:59,174 --> 00:15:00,900 [camera shutter clicking] 296 00:15:02,832 --> 00:15:05,111 [distant siren wailing] 297 00:15:24,785 --> 00:15:27,133 Right. 298 00:15:27,236 --> 00:15:29,549 Right. 299 00:15:29,652 --> 00:15:31,551 Right. Right. 300 00:15:39,352 --> 00:15:42,148 So immediately it threw flags into Ranger Collins' mind, 301 00:15:42,251 --> 00:15:43,735 like, "Wait a second. 302 00:15:43,839 --> 00:15:47,394 "Brandon's saying that he left the Heath house at 8:00, 303 00:15:47,498 --> 00:15:49,465 but we have this neighbor that's saying 304 00:15:49,569 --> 00:15:51,812 he was there between 10:00 and 11:00. 305 00:15:51,916 --> 00:15:53,504 This guy's lying about his timeline." 306 00:15:58,198 --> 00:16:00,994 Ranger Collins really hammered Brandon 307 00:16:01,098 --> 00:16:03,514 on being off on his times. 308 00:16:13,179 --> 00:16:16,354 And then as soon as Brandon left the Sheriff's Office, 309 00:16:16,458 --> 00:16:19,599 Ranger Collins started writing the arrest affidavit. 310 00:16:19,702 --> 00:16:22,050 What were they using for that arrest warrant? 311 00:16:22,153 --> 00:16:24,500 Ranger Collins' arrest warrant 312 00:16:24,604 --> 00:16:28,918 contained a lot of the things that Mike Etherington had said 313 00:16:29,022 --> 00:16:31,128 about Brandon's MySpace page 314 00:16:31,231 --> 00:16:34,234 and missing gun that Brandon might've had access to. 315 00:16:34,338 --> 00:16:36,926 And the night of the murders, 316 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:38,928 Brandon's times are off. 317 00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:40,689 So that's proof he lied. 318 00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:44,106 [dramatic music] 319 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:48,283 I was at my daughter's house, and Brandon was there. 320 00:16:48,386 --> 00:16:50,285 He was asleep in the recliner, 321 00:16:50,388 --> 00:16:52,321 and they came right in the house 322 00:16:52,425 --> 00:16:55,704 and told Brandon he was under arrest. 323 00:16:55,807 --> 00:16:57,809 My son is already gone, 324 00:16:57,913 --> 00:17:01,054 and now they're saying that they thought Brandon did it. 325 00:17:01,158 --> 00:17:03,125 Ranger Collins said, 326 00:17:03,229 --> 00:17:06,577 "Your grandson still has time to repent." 327 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,579 I said, "He doesn't have to repent 328 00:17:08,682 --> 00:17:11,168 because my grandson didn't do it." 329 00:17:11,271 --> 00:17:13,584 I'm gonna ask a very direct question. 330 00:17:13,687 --> 00:17:16,104 Did you or did you not murder your parents? 331 00:17:16,207 --> 00:17:18,175 I did not. 332 00:17:18,278 --> 00:17:19,762 If it wasn't you, who was it? 333 00:17:19,866 --> 00:17:22,075 I don't know. I don't know why anybody would kill 334 00:17:22,179 --> 00:17:24,491 anybody in the first place, much less my parents. 335 00:17:24,595 --> 00:17:26,148 My parents are supposed to be with me right now, 336 00:17:26,252 --> 00:17:28,012 not taken away. 337 00:17:28,116 --> 00:17:29,772 And I'm not supposed to be in here. 338 00:17:29,876 --> 00:17:31,429 This is crazy. 339 00:17:31,533 --> 00:17:34,363 340 00:17:34,467 --> 00:17:36,917 Even though he was arrested and charged with the crime, 341 00:17:37,021 --> 00:17:39,334 the investigation doesn't stop. 342 00:17:39,437 --> 00:17:41,853 We consider new things, new facts, 343 00:17:41,957 --> 00:17:44,580 or leads are always followed. 344 00:17:44,684 --> 00:17:50,621 345 00:18:01,287 --> 00:18:03,220 When Mike Etherington called 346 00:18:03,323 --> 00:18:05,153 and talked to the Rangers initially, 347 00:18:05,256 --> 00:18:06,533 he was telling them 348 00:18:06,637 --> 00:18:09,053 that, you know, Brandon had a MySpace page, 349 00:18:09,157 --> 00:18:11,159 and there were these posts about, 350 00:18:11,262 --> 00:18:13,989 "I [bleep] hate my parents. 351 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:15,784 They need to [bleep] die." 352 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:31,869 The Rangers went back and could never find any postings. 353 00:18:49,645 --> 00:18:53,408 Ranger Collins gets extremely frustrated with Mike 354 00:18:53,511 --> 00:18:56,169 because Mike has started crawfishing now, 355 00:18:56,273 --> 00:18:58,447 and it's, "Well, I didn't say I saw them. 356 00:18:58,551 --> 00:19:01,450 I heard that they had been posted." 357 00:19:01,554 --> 00:19:03,659 It's very different than, "I saw it with my own eyes." 358 00:19:03,763 --> 00:19:04,695 Yes. 359 00:19:20,573 --> 00:19:23,162 What did those posts actually say? 360 00:19:23,265 --> 00:19:24,887 The only references to his parents 361 00:19:24,991 --> 00:19:26,579 were positive things, like, "I love my parents." 362 00:19:26,682 --> 00:19:28,305 - Mm-hmm. - "They're great parents." 363 00:19:38,591 --> 00:19:41,525 Ranger Collins knows Mike is lying, 364 00:19:41,628 --> 00:19:44,597 and he said, "I arrested that young man on what you said, 365 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:47,324 "and now I'm finding out that was not even the case, 366 00:19:47,427 --> 00:19:49,222 that was not true. 367 00:19:49,326 --> 00:19:52,398 But he didn't try to correct anything. 368 00:19:54,572 --> 00:19:56,712 I don't know how he lives with "hisself." 369 00:19:56,816 --> 00:19:59,198 If the state's theory is that Brandon 370 00:19:59,301 --> 00:20:01,338 must've killed his parents because he lied, 371 00:20:01,441 --> 00:20:03,685 well, Mike Etherington has also lied. 372 00:20:03,788 --> 00:20:05,583 Yes. 373 00:20:05,687 --> 00:20:07,965 So does law enforcement begin looking at Mike Etherington? 374 00:20:08,068 --> 00:20:09,449 No. 375 00:20:09,553 --> 00:20:11,865 Their reasoning for zeroing in on Brandon 376 00:20:11,969 --> 00:20:14,178 is they are being told 377 00:20:14,282 --> 00:20:17,285 that Brandon is living a double life. 378 00:20:17,388 --> 00:20:18,424 Mm-hmm. 379 00:20:26,811 --> 00:20:29,987 Ultimately, they started digging a little more 380 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:31,540 about Brandon 381 00:20:31,644 --> 00:20:35,303 and found out that he was maybe bisexual 382 00:20:35,406 --> 00:20:37,650 or actually gay. 383 00:20:37,753 --> 00:20:39,893 They started talking to people who said Brandon 384 00:20:39,997 --> 00:20:42,275 had this hidden lifestyle 385 00:20:42,379 --> 00:20:45,520 that Brandon has been concealing 386 00:20:45,623 --> 00:20:49,386 from his friends and possibly from his family. 387 00:20:49,489 --> 00:20:51,111 Brandon had been telling his friends 388 00:20:51,215 --> 00:20:53,631 that he was doing modeling gigs 389 00:20:53,735 --> 00:20:56,841 and he was gonna be in the next Armani catalog. 390 00:20:56,945 --> 00:21:01,052 Turns out that he was actually doing gay porn. 391 00:21:01,156 --> 00:21:03,848 Ranger Collins told us 392 00:21:03,952 --> 00:21:06,230 that the son had been doing some things 393 00:21:06,334 --> 00:21:07,852 that his dad wouldn't have agreed with. 394 00:21:07,956 --> 00:21:12,098 He was doing pornographic movies for money, 395 00:21:12,201 --> 00:21:15,066 that he might be gay. 396 00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:16,723 Ranger Collins said, 397 00:21:16,827 --> 00:21:21,141 "If Brandon's capable of lying about his sexual identity, 398 00:21:21,245 --> 00:21:24,352 he's capable about lying about murdering his parents." 399 00:21:26,561 --> 00:21:29,080 [dramatic music] 400 00:21:29,184 --> 00:21:30,634 After Brandon's arrested, 401 00:21:30,737 --> 00:21:33,153 two days later his sister Charla 402 00:21:33,257 --> 00:21:36,433 confronted Brandon while he was in the county jail, 403 00:21:36,536 --> 00:21:39,815 and then she comes back in to talk to the Rangers. 404 00:21:44,579 --> 00:21:47,513 His own sister even said some things 405 00:21:47,616 --> 00:21:49,860 that made them point the finger at Brandon. 406 00:22:10,674 --> 00:22:12,572 407 00:22:12,676 --> 00:22:15,403 Walk me through what law enforcement 408 00:22:15,506 --> 00:22:17,543 believed was the motive. 409 00:22:17,646 --> 00:22:21,132 They had a couple of motives all rolled together. 410 00:22:21,236 --> 00:22:23,065 He's flunking out of school, 411 00:22:23,169 --> 00:22:26,448 his parents are gonna cut him off, and he's gay, 412 00:22:26,552 --> 00:22:29,831 so Brandon's fearing being exposed 413 00:22:29,934 --> 00:22:32,730 so he must kill his parents to keep his secret. 414 00:22:50,472 --> 00:22:54,131 Back in 2005, coming out as gay 415 00:22:54,234 --> 00:22:58,618 in this area of the country was not widely accepted. 416 00:22:58,722 --> 00:23:00,448 That would be something 417 00:23:00,551 --> 00:23:03,520 that would break up families, cause trouble, 418 00:23:03,623 --> 00:23:06,488 could be motive for even murder. 419 00:23:06,592 --> 00:23:10,009 And in this case, I believe it was. 420 00:23:10,112 --> 00:23:13,840 So is there any eyewitness or any physical evidence 421 00:23:13,944 --> 00:23:16,740 that ties to him to this very gruesome crime scene? 422 00:23:16,843 --> 00:23:17,844 No. 423 00:23:17,948 --> 00:23:20,916 It is an entirely circumstantial case. 424 00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:25,645 425 00:23:25,749 --> 00:23:27,682 For the trial, Mr. Davis, 426 00:23:27,785 --> 00:23:30,478 who was the first-chair attorney on the case-- 427 00:23:30,581 --> 00:23:32,859 he had requested some discovery from the state, 428 00:23:32,963 --> 00:23:35,517 including copies of all the jail calls 429 00:23:35,621 --> 00:23:37,001 that Brandon had made. 430 00:23:37,105 --> 00:23:39,728 He listened to them and heard his own voice, 431 00:23:39,832 --> 00:23:42,317 and he realized that his attorney-client calls 432 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:43,905 had been recorded 433 00:23:44,008 --> 00:23:46,563 and turned over to the District Attorney's Office. 434 00:23:46,666 --> 00:23:49,082 - That's a huge violation. - Yes. 435 00:23:49,186 --> 00:23:50,463 The District Attorney's Office 436 00:23:50,567 --> 00:23:52,500 had violated Brandon's Sixth Amendment rights. 437 00:23:52,603 --> 00:23:53,984 What is the Sixth Amendment? 438 00:23:54,087 --> 00:23:55,917 Your right to effective assistance of counsel. 439 00:23:56,020 --> 00:23:59,783 Everyone has a right to confer, in confidence, 440 00:23:59,886 --> 00:24:02,579 with their attorney, and so we drafted a motion 441 00:24:02,682 --> 00:24:06,134 to dismiss the case due to prosecutorial misconduct, 442 00:24:06,237 --> 00:24:08,136 which was denied. 443 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,007 During the time that the case was delayed, 444 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:20,838 one of Brandon's relatives goes out to the Heath house 445 00:24:20,942 --> 00:24:23,013 to finish cleaning out this barn. 446 00:24:23,116 --> 00:24:27,086 And shoved up under a pile of stuff 447 00:24:27,189 --> 00:24:29,606 is a dagger. 448 00:24:29,709 --> 00:24:33,126 They found a tiny bit of blood, 449 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:35,715 right there up in the handle. 450 00:24:35,819 --> 00:24:37,717 They did a DNA test. It was Dennis' blood. 451 00:24:37,821 --> 00:24:39,270 Okay. 452 00:24:39,374 --> 00:24:43,412 Had anyone in Brandon's life ever seen him with weapons? 453 00:24:43,516 --> 00:24:45,069 His roommate at ACU 454 00:24:45,173 --> 00:24:48,072 said that he had seen in the dorm room 455 00:24:48,176 --> 00:24:50,868 that Brandon had some kind of medieval-looking dagger. 456 00:24:50,972 --> 00:24:52,318 Mm-hmm. 457 00:24:52,421 --> 00:24:53,699 And now they have something 458 00:24:53,802 --> 00:24:56,736 they can claim is one of the murder weapons. 459 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,708 460 00:25:02,811 --> 00:25:05,883 Hunt County is a conservative, religious community. 461 00:25:05,987 --> 00:25:08,645 So, when it came for jury selection, 462 00:25:08,748 --> 00:25:11,544 we knew Brandon's sexual orientation 463 00:25:11,648 --> 00:25:14,236 could be an explosive issue. 464 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:16,653 We were concerned about that, 465 00:25:16,756 --> 00:25:20,933 because if they viewed homosexuality as immoral, 466 00:25:21,036 --> 00:25:24,177 he's already got one strike against him 467 00:25:24,281 --> 00:25:26,352 in your opinion of him 468 00:25:26,455 --> 00:25:29,079 before you've ever heard any evidence. 469 00:25:29,182 --> 00:25:32,634 And I believe it was eight people on the jury 470 00:25:32,738 --> 00:25:35,568 had said they believed homosexuality was immoral. 471 00:25:35,672 --> 00:25:42,679 472 00:25:46,614 --> 00:25:48,477 The trial was a huge deal. 473 00:25:48,581 --> 00:25:50,203 You know, how could that happen? 474 00:25:50,307 --> 00:25:52,999 How could anybody do that, you know, to their parents? 475 00:25:53,103 --> 00:25:55,174 Brandon's lifestyle was a little bit different, 476 00:25:55,277 --> 00:25:58,798 but I don't think people judged him for that. 477 00:25:58,902 --> 00:26:03,734 478 00:26:03,838 --> 00:26:06,737 When Brandon was first interviewed, 479 00:26:06,841 --> 00:26:09,429 he gives a very accurate account 480 00:26:09,533 --> 00:26:12,018 of his movements that day and night, 481 00:26:12,122 --> 00:26:15,608 but he just doesn't know what time things occurred. 482 00:26:15,712 --> 00:26:19,094 So he would say, "Well, we ate dinner." 483 00:26:19,198 --> 00:26:21,994 And Ranger Collins would say, "Well, that'd be about 6:30?" 484 00:26:22,097 --> 00:26:25,687 And Brandon said, "Yeah, that sounds about right." 485 00:26:38,389 --> 00:26:40,702 And it continued like that through the interview, 486 00:26:40,806 --> 00:26:42,739 where the Ranger's suggesting the times to Brandon. 487 00:26:46,156 --> 00:26:48,089 Then they turn around and want to say, 488 00:26:48,192 --> 00:26:51,126 "Well, Brandon lied because those times are off." 489 00:26:51,230 --> 00:26:57,167 490 00:26:57,270 --> 00:27:00,688 The last contact for Dennis and Norma 491 00:27:00,791 --> 00:27:02,897 was Norma's mother. 492 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,312 They were talking on the phone, 493 00:27:04,415 --> 00:27:07,453 and that call ended somewhere around 9:15, 9:20 494 00:27:07,556 --> 00:27:09,144 Sunday evening. 495 00:27:09,248 --> 00:27:12,251 That night it was about 11:00 p.m. 496 00:27:12,354 --> 00:27:16,220 Charla tried calling Norma, and Norma didn't answer. 497 00:27:16,324 --> 00:27:18,878 What were Brandon's known movements? 498 00:27:18,982 --> 00:27:20,604 We know from the phone records, 499 00:27:20,708 --> 00:27:22,641 at 9:27, 500 00:27:22,744 --> 00:27:24,919 Brandon is calling one of his friends 501 00:27:25,022 --> 00:27:27,576 to make plans to go to this nightclub in Dallas. 502 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,233 Mm-hmm. 503 00:27:29,337 --> 00:27:32,202 Five minutes later, he's calling Morgan Lee. 504 00:27:32,305 --> 00:27:33,617 And that's his girlfriend, at home. 505 00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:35,239 Yes, correct. 506 00:27:35,343 --> 00:27:37,794 At 9:41, he gets a call back from Morgan. 507 00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:41,107 At 9:49, another friend calls Brandon. 508 00:27:41,211 --> 00:27:44,766 10 minutes after 10:00, Morgan calls Brandon. 509 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:47,113 Now, shortly after 10:00 p.m. 510 00:27:47,217 --> 00:27:50,116 is when the neighbor at the house in Heath 511 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:53,672 says he hears a vehicle at the house next door, 512 00:27:53,775 --> 00:27:55,708 gets up and looks, and sees Brandon. 513 00:27:55,812 --> 00:27:57,952 And we know where he is at 11:00 514 00:27:58,055 --> 00:28:00,920 'cause we got people saying he was at the Denny's. 515 00:28:01,024 --> 00:28:03,854 So Brandon is visually seen at the house in Heath... 516 00:28:03,958 --> 00:28:05,684 Shortly after 10:00 p.m. 517 00:28:05,787 --> 00:28:09,549 That house is 20 minutes away from the house in Royse City? 518 00:28:09,653 --> 00:28:12,483 - Yes. Yes. - And so the amount of time 519 00:28:12,587 --> 00:28:16,315 in which Brandon could have committed this crime... 520 00:28:16,418 --> 00:28:17,557 Yes. 521 00:28:17,661 --> 00:28:19,559 Is shrunk down to about 40 minutes? 522 00:28:19,663 --> 00:28:22,459 - Correct. - And within that 40 minutes, 523 00:28:22,562 --> 00:28:25,082 he's on a telephone 524 00:28:25,186 --> 00:28:28,016 pretty much the entirety of that time. 525 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,432 I mean, is it, you know, shoot your parents, 526 00:28:30,536 --> 00:28:32,711 get on the phone, call somebody, leave a message, 527 00:28:32,814 --> 00:28:35,610 hang up, go stab, pick up the phone, 528 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:38,199 call somebody, talk for a few minutes, 529 00:28:38,302 --> 00:28:40,304 hang up, go stab the other parent? 530 00:28:40,408 --> 00:28:42,099 He also had to have been able to get showered 531 00:28:42,203 --> 00:28:43,791 and cleaned up before he left the house. 532 00:28:43,894 --> 00:28:46,000 - That's impossible. - Exactly. 533 00:28:48,554 --> 00:28:51,177 [dramatic music] 534 00:28:51,281 --> 00:28:54,767 Everything Brandon said he did that night checked out. 535 00:28:54,871 --> 00:28:57,632 The only problem was Brandon could not be precise 536 00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:59,220 about his times. 537 00:28:59,323 --> 00:29:02,257 And all the other teenagers that were interviewed, 538 00:29:02,361 --> 00:29:04,535 they were pretty inaccurate about their times, too. 539 00:29:04,639 --> 00:29:06,089 Mm-hmm. 540 00:29:06,192 --> 00:29:09,299 But only Brandon being off on his times 541 00:29:09,402 --> 00:29:11,266 was indicative of guilt. 542 00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:15,167 And so you presented this to a jury? 543 00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:17,341 Yes. 544 00:29:17,445 --> 00:29:21,207 Brandon was found guilty of capital murder 545 00:29:21,311 --> 00:29:24,417 and sentenced to life without parole. 546 00:29:24,521 --> 00:29:26,937 I ran out when I heard the verdict that he was guilty. 547 00:29:27,041 --> 00:29:29,526 They said I screamed, and I ran out. 548 00:29:31,321 --> 00:29:34,876 The jury got it right. The evidence never lies. 549 00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:38,742 People always lie. 550 00:29:38,846 --> 00:29:42,470 I'm sure he denies it to this day--I would. 551 00:29:42,573 --> 00:29:44,783 My name is Brandon Woodruff, 552 00:29:44,886 --> 00:29:48,027 and I did not kill my parents. 553 00:29:48,131 --> 00:29:50,616 I tell everybody, "Look at the totality of the ways 554 00:29:50,719 --> 00:29:51,928 "that they used to convict me, 555 00:29:52,031 --> 00:29:53,757 you know, from start to finish." 556 00:29:53,861 --> 00:29:55,863 I do not believe I got a fair trial at all. 557 00:29:55,966 --> 00:29:58,866 I believe an innocent man is in jail. 558 00:29:58,969 --> 00:30:00,971 It's not admissible in court, 559 00:30:01,075 --> 00:30:03,974 but Brandon has taken two polygraph examinations, 560 00:30:04,078 --> 00:30:05,873 which he has passed. 561 00:30:05,976 --> 00:30:10,187 He is adamant that he did not kill his parents. 562 00:30:10,291 --> 00:30:12,224 I think the biggest piece of evidence 563 00:30:12,327 --> 00:30:16,884 that the jury convicted Brandon over was that dagger. 564 00:30:16,987 --> 00:30:19,231 Now, he had a little dagger, 565 00:30:19,334 --> 00:30:21,198 and his roommate described it 566 00:30:21,302 --> 00:30:23,856 as being about a six-inch blade, 567 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,858 but this thing... 568 00:30:25,962 --> 00:30:29,966 Okay, there's your six-inch blade, all right? 569 00:30:30,069 --> 00:30:33,935 The blade on this thing-- this is the entire blade. 570 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:35,592 Mm-hmm. And then the handle was-- 571 00:30:35,695 --> 00:30:36,696 And then the handle. 572 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,319 This thing is a foot and a half long. 573 00:30:38,422 --> 00:30:40,390 It's 18 inches long. 574 00:30:40,493 --> 00:30:42,012 It's a significantly larger weapon. 575 00:30:42,116 --> 00:30:43,738 Oh, absolutely. 576 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:47,017 At trial, we had a forensic pathologist 577 00:30:47,121 --> 00:30:50,124 talking about how that sword could not have been 578 00:30:50,227 --> 00:30:52,505 the source of those stab wounds 579 00:30:52,609 --> 00:30:57,062 because there's no way that that sword could've been driven 580 00:30:57,165 --> 00:31:00,134 into Dennis Woodruff and gone up to the hilt 581 00:31:00,237 --> 00:31:02,274 and not completely run him through. 582 00:31:02,377 --> 00:31:04,241 If it went through to the hilt, 583 00:31:04,345 --> 00:31:06,968 which it appeared to have because of the bruising marks 584 00:31:07,072 --> 00:31:08,625 around the stab wounds, 585 00:31:08,728 --> 00:31:10,144 then it should've run 586 00:31:10,247 --> 00:31:12,974 completely through the backside of Mr. Woodruff. 587 00:31:13,078 --> 00:31:15,977 And if the state's trying to allege 588 00:31:16,081 --> 00:31:20,257 that the same weapon was used on Dennis and Norma... 589 00:31:20,361 --> 00:31:21,880 Mm-hmm. 590 00:31:21,983 --> 00:31:24,261 Why would this only have Dennis' blood on it? 591 00:31:24,365 --> 00:31:26,677 Okay, let's talk about the gun. 592 00:31:26,781 --> 00:31:29,163 If they're saying that Brandon had access to this gun, 593 00:31:29,266 --> 00:31:31,924 who else had access to that house? 594 00:31:32,028 --> 00:31:33,995 All of the other kids that ran with their group, 595 00:31:34,099 --> 00:31:35,617 including Mike Etherington. 596 00:31:35,721 --> 00:31:37,136 There had been a party, I think, 597 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,345 a weekend or two before 598 00:31:39,449 --> 00:31:43,246 at that house where that same gaggle of kids showed up. 599 00:31:43,349 --> 00:31:45,006 And there was never any proof 600 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:46,905 that that is even the gun that was used. 601 00:31:47,008 --> 00:31:49,114 There was never a weapon found 602 00:31:49,217 --> 00:31:51,840 because we don't have a gun to fire a test sample 603 00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:53,946 to get rifling marks on. 604 00:31:54,050 --> 00:31:56,811 We can't tell where that bullet came from. 605 00:31:56,915 --> 00:32:00,194 So the things that they are using 606 00:32:00,297 --> 00:32:02,334 to build this case against Brandon 607 00:32:02,437 --> 00:32:05,509 are also applicable to other people? 608 00:32:05,613 --> 00:32:07,166 Correct. 609 00:32:07,270 --> 00:32:09,755 I think the fact that Norma Etherington, 610 00:32:09,858 --> 00:32:11,446 Mike Etherington's mom, 611 00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:14,449 called with information about the Woodruff murders 612 00:32:14,553 --> 00:32:17,038 before anyone in the public knew that there was a murder 613 00:32:17,142 --> 00:32:19,178 makes them look suspicious. 614 00:32:19,282 --> 00:32:22,250 Is it a red flag for law enforcement 615 00:32:22,354 --> 00:32:26,772 that someone is calling in about suspects in a case 616 00:32:26,875 --> 00:32:30,534 when it hasn't even been disclosed that there is a case? 617 00:32:30,638 --> 00:32:34,193 You would think it would be a red flag for law enforcement, 618 00:32:34,297 --> 00:32:37,265 but apparently it wasn't. 619 00:32:37,369 --> 00:32:40,717 The gentleman that found the bodies, Todd Williams, 620 00:32:40,820 --> 00:32:42,546 gives them some information 621 00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:45,515 about Norma Woodruff and Norma Etherington 622 00:32:45,618 --> 00:32:46,930 had been having a feud, 623 00:32:47,034 --> 00:32:49,519 and there were problems in the 4-H club 624 00:32:49,622 --> 00:32:51,107 and things like that. 625 00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:53,385 Todd Williams came forward to see Ranger Collins 626 00:32:53,488 --> 00:32:54,903 and said, "You know, I really think 627 00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:56,629 you've got the wrong person. 628 00:32:56,733 --> 00:32:59,218 "Maybe go take a look at Mike a little more closely 629 00:32:59,322 --> 00:33:01,876 because there was some issues going on." 630 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:04,258 One of Brandon's dogs was poisoned. 631 00:33:04,361 --> 00:33:07,399 And Dennis Woodruff had suspicions 632 00:33:07,502 --> 00:33:10,022 and had told people that he thought Mike Etherington 633 00:33:10,126 --> 00:33:12,231 might've had something to do with it. 634 00:33:12,335 --> 00:33:14,854 During the trial, you were able to speak 635 00:33:14,958 --> 00:33:18,168 with investigators about what they found 636 00:33:18,272 --> 00:33:19,583 on the scene... - Yes. 637 00:33:19,687 --> 00:33:21,447 What they tested, what they didn't test. 638 00:33:21,551 --> 00:33:24,588 Right. The biggest thing is they found-- 639 00:33:24,692 --> 00:33:28,592 in Norma Woodruff's right hand were some long blond hairs 640 00:33:28,696 --> 00:33:32,734 and also what appeared to be defensive wounds. 641 00:33:32,838 --> 00:33:36,566 Now, at the time, Brandon had dyed his hair black 642 00:33:36,669 --> 00:33:40,121 for a school play that he was doing at ACU. 643 00:33:40,225 --> 00:33:42,227 - Mm-hmm. - And Norma Woodruff 644 00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:45,644 had strawberry blond, dirty blond hair. 645 00:33:45,747 --> 00:33:49,510 But it wasn't the same as what was in her hand. 646 00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:52,996 So this hair found mixed in with the blood 647 00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,825 on Norma's hand... - Mm-hmm. 648 00:33:54,929 --> 00:33:56,344 Is significant why? 649 00:33:56,448 --> 00:34:00,383 As I argued to the jury, it could very well be 650 00:34:00,486 --> 00:34:05,319 that Norma was trying to tell us who killed her 651 00:34:05,422 --> 00:34:08,460 because she could've been reaching up, grabbing, 652 00:34:08,563 --> 00:34:10,496 and struggling with her attacker 653 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,190 and pulling hair out of their head. 654 00:34:14,293 --> 00:34:16,502 And so did they preserve that hair? 655 00:34:16,606 --> 00:34:19,850 They seized all this hair and bagged it up 656 00:34:19,954 --> 00:34:22,508 and never sent it to the lab. 657 00:34:22,612 --> 00:34:26,340 They did not test hair that was found in the victim's hand? 658 00:34:26,443 --> 00:34:27,755 No. 659 00:34:27,858 --> 00:34:29,826 Could this piece of evidence set Brandon free? 660 00:34:29,929 --> 00:34:31,310 Absolutely. 661 00:34:31,414 --> 00:34:33,726 The natural conclusion is it's the hair 662 00:34:33,830 --> 00:34:36,315 of one of her attackers. 663 00:34:38,283 --> 00:34:40,699 [dramatic music] 664 00:34:40,802 --> 00:34:43,357 [telephone rings] 665 00:34:46,601 --> 00:34:48,638 Hey, Brandon. 666 00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:50,605 We're talking to Hilarie. 667 00:34:50,709 --> 00:34:52,435 Hi, Brandon. 668 00:34:52,538 --> 00:34:55,162 It's so nice to sit here and learn more about your family. 669 00:34:55,265 --> 00:34:57,129 I was going to ask you, Brandon, 670 00:34:57,233 --> 00:35:00,374 what do you want people to focus on? 671 00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:12,317 Yeah, so much is made 672 00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:15,699 of you living this double life. 673 00:35:15,803 --> 00:35:19,255 How much do you think prejudice played into this? 674 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:41,760 Were you scared your parents were gonna find out 675 00:35:41,863 --> 00:35:43,279 about your lifestyle? 676 00:36:06,405 --> 00:36:09,788 Do you think you would've been convicted of this crime 677 00:36:09,891 --> 00:36:11,445 if you were straight? 678 00:36:28,669 --> 00:36:31,154 I, myself, can relate to what it's like 679 00:36:31,258 --> 00:36:33,398 for a gay kid in a small town. 680 00:36:33,501 --> 00:36:36,263 So it really became a personal project for me 681 00:36:36,366 --> 00:36:38,334 to look into this case. 682 00:36:38,437 --> 00:36:40,957 For Ranger Collins to trivialize that 683 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:44,098 and say, you know, "If Brandon can lie about something small 684 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,996 "like his sexuality, 685 00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:50,035 then he can lie about something big like killing his parents," 686 00:36:50,138 --> 00:36:52,451 is just absolutely abhorrent. 687 00:36:52,555 --> 00:36:56,386 If you ask any gay person in the world 688 00:36:56,490 --> 00:36:59,803 if coming out and dealing with their sexuality 689 00:36:59,907 --> 00:37:01,633 was a small thing, 690 00:37:01,736 --> 00:37:03,669 I think 100% of them would tell you, 691 00:37:03,773 --> 00:37:05,775 no, it was the probably the biggest thing in their life. 692 00:37:05,878 --> 00:37:08,295 They don't want to tell the church friends. 693 00:37:08,398 --> 00:37:09,710 They don't want to tell the school friends. 694 00:37:09,813 --> 00:37:11,332 Most of the time, they don't feel comfortable 695 00:37:11,436 --> 00:37:13,023 telling their own family. 696 00:37:13,127 --> 00:37:14,508 Just because someone 697 00:37:14,611 --> 00:37:16,441 is struggling with their sexuality, 698 00:37:16,544 --> 00:37:18,477 especially in a small town, 699 00:37:18,581 --> 00:37:20,238 that doesn't make them a liar, 700 00:37:20,341 --> 00:37:22,240 and it doesn't make them a killer. 701 00:37:24,138 --> 00:37:26,658 This took place in 2005. 702 00:37:26,761 --> 00:37:28,763 What laws were on the books... - Right. 703 00:37:28,867 --> 00:37:30,040 In that era? 704 00:37:30,144 --> 00:37:31,594 Well, at this time, 705 00:37:31,697 --> 00:37:33,837 sodomy was illegal in Texas until 2003, 706 00:37:33,941 --> 00:37:36,702 and so it was very recently just overturned. 707 00:37:36,806 --> 00:37:38,601 And then, of course, gay marriage didn't come around 708 00:37:38,704 --> 00:37:40,085 until 2015. 709 00:37:40,188 --> 00:37:44,158 So Brandon was being told systemically from a young age 710 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,298 that being gay is not okay. - Mm-hmm. 711 00:37:46,402 --> 00:37:48,162 Do you feel that in rural Texas, 712 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,820 he was able to have an unbiased jury? 713 00:37:50,923 --> 00:37:52,235 Absolutely not. 714 00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:53,857 And the reason that I say that 715 00:37:53,961 --> 00:37:56,688 is because Greenville and Hunt County 716 00:37:56,791 --> 00:37:58,759 is the kind of town where you, you know, 717 00:37:58,862 --> 00:38:00,864 you can't throw a rock without hitting a church. 718 00:38:00,968 --> 00:38:04,903 And the bias against homosexuals in general 719 00:38:05,006 --> 00:38:06,387 is not good. 720 00:38:06,491 --> 00:38:09,701 And to have your coming-out 721 00:38:09,804 --> 00:38:13,360 weaponized against you is terrifying, 722 00:38:13,463 --> 00:38:15,534 not only for the person that it happens to, 723 00:38:15,638 --> 00:38:17,985 but for every other member of the community who's watching. 724 00:38:18,088 --> 00:38:19,538 Right. 725 00:38:19,642 --> 00:38:21,368 I didn't really feel like I had a choice. 726 00:38:21,471 --> 00:38:23,301 Like, I had to get involved. 727 00:38:23,404 --> 00:38:25,751 So let's talk about what you have done. 728 00:38:25,855 --> 00:38:29,997 Literally, it's just been trying to get Brandon's case 729 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:32,137 out into the public discourse. 730 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,864 If people could just hear the facts, 731 00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:37,729 that his case would be overturned. 732 00:38:37,832 --> 00:38:40,835 What is going on with Brandon's case right now? 733 00:38:40,939 --> 00:38:43,562 Luckily, in mid-2021, 734 00:38:43,666 --> 00:38:45,461 we were able to contact somebody 735 00:38:45,564 --> 00:38:47,566 with the Texas Innocence Project, 736 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:50,604 and they decided, "Yeah, we're gonna be in this full-force." 737 00:38:50,707 --> 00:38:53,641 I'm grateful that the Innocence Project of Texas 738 00:38:53,745 --> 00:38:55,436 has gotten involved in it, 739 00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:57,611 because if anyone can get some traction 740 00:38:57,714 --> 00:39:00,786 on this case for Brandon, it would be them. 741 00:39:00,890 --> 00:39:04,100 The Innocence Project is trying to DNA-test the hairs. 742 00:39:04,203 --> 00:39:07,275 For example, if those hairs come back as someone 743 00:39:07,379 --> 00:39:10,555 other than Norma Woodruff and Brandon Woodruff 744 00:39:10,658 --> 00:39:12,591 and is an unknown third party, 745 00:39:12,695 --> 00:39:15,249 that will go a long way 746 00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:18,666 to establishing Brandon's innocent. 747 00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:22,221 How important is it for the truth to get out there 748 00:39:22,325 --> 00:39:25,293 for Brandon and Norma and Dennis? 749 00:39:25,397 --> 00:39:26,743 It's very important. 750 00:39:26,847 --> 00:39:30,298 Brandon has been in prison all these years 751 00:39:30,402 --> 00:39:31,921 for something he didn't do. 752 00:39:32,024 --> 00:39:35,027 And so I want the people to know about this case 753 00:39:35,131 --> 00:39:37,064 and to come forward and help. 754 00:39:37,167 --> 00:39:40,619 It's just heartbreaking, and I need him home. 755 00:39:40,723 --> 00:39:42,897 My son's gone. I need him. 756 00:39:43,001 --> 00:39:44,968 Yeah. 757 00:39:45,072 --> 00:39:46,763 Come here. 758 00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:53,977 759 00:39:54,081 --> 00:39:57,222 I've got a lot of family members that support me, 760 00:39:57,325 --> 00:39:58,844 that love me, that believe in me. 761 00:39:58,948 --> 00:40:00,812 They know the truth. They stand confident. 762 00:40:00,915 --> 00:40:03,366 And, you know, they're my rocks. 763 00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:05,575 But when I hear that my own sister-- 764 00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,371 she's took the stand of the law enforcement's side. 765 00:40:08,475 --> 00:40:10,753 And that hurts more than really anything. 766 00:40:10,856 --> 00:40:12,030 You're supposed to know me. 767 00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:13,825 Like, we grew up together. 768 00:40:13,928 --> 00:40:16,034 You know, we went through so much together. 769 00:40:16,137 --> 00:40:19,451 I love my parents. I'll always love them. 770 00:40:19,555 --> 00:40:22,109 Dennis and Norma had just started 771 00:40:22,212 --> 00:40:23,766 this brand-new chapter, 772 00:40:23,869 --> 00:40:26,216 where they were empty-nesters, 773 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,943 before tragedy struck and everything fell apart. 774 00:40:29,047 --> 00:40:32,360 And this tragedy didn't just affect them. 775 00:40:32,464 --> 00:40:35,881 It affected their kids. It affected Bonnie. 776 00:40:35,985 --> 00:40:38,332 And it affected every gay kid in the community 777 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:41,266 who had to watch another young gay man 778 00:40:41,369 --> 00:40:43,958 be vilified for his lifestyle. 779 00:40:44,062 --> 00:40:46,513 These murders happened in 2005. 780 00:40:46,616 --> 00:40:50,275 Today we want to believe that we know more, 781 00:40:50,378 --> 00:40:52,173 that we are more open-minded, 782 00:40:52,277 --> 00:40:55,314 but there is still a potentially innocent person 783 00:40:55,418 --> 00:40:56,454 in prison. 784 00:40:56,557 --> 00:40:58,386 And until we give that another look, 785 00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:01,251 are we better than we were? 786 00:41:01,355 --> 00:41:08,155 57812

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