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[melancholy music]
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♪
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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[light guitar music]
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♪
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St. Augustine is apparently
the oldest town in America.
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There's clearly
a Spanish influence here.
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It's got really similar vibes
to Miami and to New Orleans.
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It just feels like
you're visiting
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a really cool
historic small town.
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My family has lived
in St. Augustine since 1595.
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A lot of families
in St. Augustine
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that have been here
a long time,
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and a lot of people
related to one another.
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Everybody knows everybody.
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Everybody knows
what's going on.
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We are all connected,
and word does travel.
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Mini golf, man.
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Not a vacation town
unless you've got mini golf.
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The beach is amazing.
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You have all the fun stuff
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without having to deal with
the crime of the big city.
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Live from studio five,
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this is
"First Coast Connect" on 89.9.
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First this morning,
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a controversial investigation
in St. Augustine.
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It centers around the 2010
death of Michelle O'Connell.
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This is a long-running drama
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that has divided
the nation's oldest city
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and the law enforcement
community there.
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So on the surface,
there's this beautiful,
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bright, shiny little town.
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How do you go
from this fairy tale life
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to a tragedy like
Michelle O'Connell's death?
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My name is Debra Maynard.
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On September 2, 2010,
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I was a deputy sheriff
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for the St. Johns County
Sheriff's office.
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There was a call on the radio
that got all of our attention.
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A signal 18,
which was shots fired.
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We heard a badge number
come out.
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We knew it was
another deputy involved.
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[siren wailing]
Took off down US 1 South.
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My sergeant beats me in,
and the corporal and I
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are in the doorway
at the same time,
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and another deputy was there.
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We were first on scene.
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I remember the front door
being opened
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and one light on outside.
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Walked in the door.
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First thing I saw on the floor
was the legs of a female.
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I saw little black
ballerina shoes,
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a pair of jeans.
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Deputy Banks was just to her
right side,
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kind of holding on to her.
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Michelle O'Connell
appeared to have a--
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some type of serious injury,
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which I assumed to be
a gunshot wound
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to the head or face.
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My name's Chrissy O'Connell,
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and I am Michelle O'Connell's
sister.
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We come from a large family--
six siblings.
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Michelle was the baby.
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Michelle's spirit
was just wild.
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She said what she felt,
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but she also cared
about people at the same time.
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When she was little,
she was very independent,
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but she brought a lot of joy
into our life because she was,
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you know, just a cutie pie.
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She was so adorable.
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I'm on my way to meet
with Michelle O'Connell's
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older sister, Chrissy.
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She can shed light
on who Michelle was,
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what she was going through.
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What's amazing
about the O'Connell family
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is that they've never
given up this fight.
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It has been over 10 years,
and they are still
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demanding justice
for their little sister.
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The O'Connell family is not
going to bend to the narrative
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that was presented
to this community.
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Michelle meant so much
to our family, you know,
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and she was taken.
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I cry for my niece.
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She looks a lot like her.
- Yeah.
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And she had that
little spitfire in her,
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and so I see a lot of Michelle
in her daughter.
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That seems to be the word
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that a lot of people
use for Michelle,
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that she was, like,
feisty, the spitfire.
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Oh, yeah.
The baby of six kids, you know,
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so you had to fight, you know,
to be heard and seen,
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and she was.
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Michelle was a single mother,
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and she just loved her daughter
more than anything.
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When Alexis was about 3 1/2,
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Michelle met Jeremy Banks,
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the deputy sheriff.
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She met him
through our family.
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My mom and brother worked
at the sheriff's office.
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My mom, Patty,
was a file clerk,
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and my brother,
he was a sheriff's deputy.
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Working in law enforcement,
there's definitely,
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like, a sense of pride,
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and there was, like, a sense of
we're a part of the family.
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[chatter]
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Everybody hug.
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I met Michelle
at Treaty Park.
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Jeremy was in his uniform.
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He was pushing her
on the swing,
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and I just felt like,
"Oh, my gosh.
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Here's someone that's gonna
to take good care of her."
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- Goodbye, then.
- All righty.
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You have our cell phones,
all right.
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Before she met Jeremy,
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had she ever lived
with anybody before?
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Jeremy was the first person
she ever moved in with.
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- Yeah.
- And it was a big step
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for Michelle.
- Bye-bye.
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- You want me to go bye-bye?
- No.
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No.
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When we showed up on scene,
I walked into the room.
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Jeremy was crouched, holding
the house phone in his hand,
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just looking.
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The gun
was Jeremy's duty weapon,
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and the tactical light
on top of the gun was on.
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Fire Rescue would be there
shortly, and the firearm
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would have to be moved
for them to work on her.
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So quickly before we moved
anything, including that gun,
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another deputy
took some photos.
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Once he took
the photographs,
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I then took the firearm
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and placed it in the bathroom
on the counter.
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My sergeant said,
"Get Jeremy out of here."
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I get Jeremy outside,
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and he starts pacing
like a wild animal.
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He kept going--
[grunts]
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He went over to the front of my
sergeants car with double fists
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and hit it so hard
he put dents in the hood.
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Fire Rescue is in control
of the scene now.
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They called that she had died.
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My sergeant and lieutenant
come out.
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They say, "Okay.
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We need to secure the scene.
No one else in."
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We were standing out front
discussing it,
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and from what I understood,
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it was a self-inflicted
gunshot wound.
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My lieutenant said,
"We need you to go
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make family notifications."
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I get the call.
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One of my brothers said,
"Come now,"
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and I flew over
to my mom's house,
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and there were about six
or seven deputies
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with their lights on,
and I got out of the car.
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I said to one of the deputies,
"Just tell me, who is it?"
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And he said,
"Your sister, Michelle,"
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and I just collapsed.
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The deputy said,
"It appears Michelle
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has died by act of suicide,"
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and I thought, no.
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No, she didn't.
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This isn't a suicide.
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Michelle's story--
you got it wrong.
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[light music]
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♪
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Tell me what was going
on that night
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before you got the call.
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Michelle was at a concert
with some of my brothers
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and Jeremy.
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I was watching her daughter.
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She said,
"You keep her for tonight,
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and I'm coming
to get her from you."
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Michelle offered me a ticket
to join her and Jeremy
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in their seats at the concert.
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Michelle was happy
and dancing,
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and I was hugging her,
taking some selfies,
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Jeremy was quiet, and I could
just read his body language.
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Something was bothering him.
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At one point in the concert,
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she shared that she was
starting a new position
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at work tomorrow.
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That was something that she was
extremely excited about
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and proud of.
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After we left the concert,
we were parting ways,
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and Michelle and Jeremy were
heading home for the night.
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When I was babysitting Alexis,
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I got some texts from Michelle,
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but they were not like
her regular texts.
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Can you walk me
through what those were?
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Yeah.
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She said something
along the lines of, like,
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"Promise me one thing.
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Promise me Alexis
will be loved."
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And I'm like, "What?"
Promise you what?"
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Depending on who's looking
at them,
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Michelle's text messages
can be seen as alarming.
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Then I later got a text
that said,
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"I'll be there soon."
- Mm-hmm.
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So I thought, "Okay.
Something happened.
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She's going to tell me
about it later,"
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but then she never came.
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And now, here are deputies,
not even detectives,
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telling me that my sister died
of a suicide.
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She had texted me, "Is Alexis
okay? I'm on my way."
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I was trying to show anyone
that would listen
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to me Michelle's story,
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but we were not listened to.
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My name is Clu Wright,
and I'm private investigator
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here in the state of Florida.
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The night Michelle O'Connell
died,
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Detective Hines interviewed
Jeremy Banks
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at the scene
in the back of a patrol car.
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After the concert,
about 10:30,
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they got in a car
and drove back home.
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They arrived at Jeremy's
house about 10:45, 10:55 p.m.
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Jeremy said that Michelle
was inside the house
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packing her clothes
to move out of Jeremy's house.
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Jeremy also said
that he said,
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"Well, can I have
one last kiss?"
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And Michelle told him, "No,
you cannot have a last kiss."
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After that, he left to go
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sit on his motorcycle
out in the garage.
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That night, my neighbor
gave me a ride over
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to Jeremy's
and Michelle's house,
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and I said, you know,
I just want to go be with her.
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I just want to, like,
hold her hand, um--
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As soon as I got there,
the deputy, who I know, says,
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"You can't go any further.
You can't go into the house.
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There's really nothing else
that you can do right now."
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Earlier when we were
at the concert,
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Michelle was laughing
and smiling.
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What was a great day
turned into, like...
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the worst day of my life,
and nothing will ever--
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Nothing has ever
compared to that,
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that pain and that loss.
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I knew in my heart
and in my gut
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that Michelle
didn't kill herself,
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and instead of going
and sitting down with my family
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and accepting what they had
been told, I raised my voice.
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I said, "I demand
an outside investigation.
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I want you guys to stop
whatever you're doing right now
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and bring in the FBI or FDLE
or whoever isn't you.
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I want them to come in.
I want them to take over."
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[dark music]
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My brother is just, "I demand
an outside investigation,"
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at the top of his lungs.
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But he was told,
"It's a suicide.
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Sit down, son."
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That was the tone.
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And they stopped doing
basic police work.
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They didn't canvass
the street.
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They didn't talk to neighbors.
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They didn't talk
to friends, family,
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anything about what happened
leading up to the event.
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When we come through
training, as new deputies,
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every crime scene
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where there's a decedent,
it is a homicide.
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It's not a suicide.
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The medical examiner is the one
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that makes the determination
of how they died.
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The medical examiner,
Dr. Hobin,
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did conduct an autopsy
on September the 4th.
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During the autopsy,
they found an injury
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above Michelle's right eye,
a small cut.
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Hobin said that it could
have been the cause
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of the ejected shell casing
that came out of the gun.
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At the scene,
they found pills,
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in Michelle O'Connell's pocket
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and pill bottles in her purse
that belonged to Jeremy Banks.
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They did a test to find out if
any of them pills were taken,
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and there was nothing
in her system,
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and his cause
and manner of death
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is that it was a self-inflicted
gunshot.
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She committed suicide.
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When I came back on duty,
my sergeant said,
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"You guys need to do your
supplement from that night."
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If you go up
into a police report,
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you can see everybody listed--
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victim, suspect,
other person--
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which means maybe
they conducted interviews
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in the neighborhood.
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Really didn't see anybody.
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Just Jeremy Banks
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and of course the deputies
that were on scene,
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but that was it.
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Detectives were done.
They were done.
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So how long after that night
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before they spoke
with you guys again?
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I want to say it was, like,
a couple weeks later.
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We had this debriefing.
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We were cautiously optimistic
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that science would be
on our side
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or someone would see
through this
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and stand up
and do the right thing.
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The text messages
are the big thing
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that they're latched onto.
- Uh-huh, but they didn't
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reach out to the family
to find out what we knew.
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We were shut down, and even
though we had family members
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that worked
for the sheriff's office,
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we're not from one of these
families like Jeremy Banks,
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from a well-established family
in the community,
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and the sheriff is on record
saying he's known his parents
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for a long,
long, long, long time.
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So here, this almost godfather-
like person to Jeremy Banks.
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"Let me just take care of him,
and let's just shut this down."
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Before that night, were there
any other red flags?
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She'd say, you know,
"He tells me
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that I can't wear these things.
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I can't go out
with certain friends.
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He goes through my phone.
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He wants to know
what I'm spending."
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She told me about Alexis'
behaviors at school changing.
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She was regressing
with potty training,
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and then she told me,
you know, he has a temper.
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So little bit by little bit,
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Michelle is telling us things
are not good at home.
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I wanted her to be happy,
but Michelle was telling me
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that Jeremy was becoming
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physically violent,
verbally abusive.
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00:20:09,553 --> 00:20:12,383
It was Alexis' birthday,
and I remember seeing Jeremy.
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He's eating pizza,
and he starts grilling Alexis,
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00:20:15,869 --> 00:20:17,837
"Why is so and so crying?
What did you do?
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What did you do?"
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And Alexis is just petrified.
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He takes my little niece
by the arms,
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and he says, "Answer me."
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He, like, pulls her up.
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She's so little,
and I'm sitting there,
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like, paralyzed,
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00:20:36,959 --> 00:20:39,514
and he shakes her
and slams her to the ground.
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Like, he puts her down so hard.
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00:20:44,967 --> 00:20:46,900
and I grab Michelle, and I
said, "I got to talk to you.
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Jeremy is out of control."
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00:20:48,626 --> 00:20:51,250
She's like, "I know. I know."
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00:20:56,393 --> 00:20:58,567
What happened the night
of the murder?
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On September 2nd,
we met for lunch,
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00:21:01,363 --> 00:21:02,882
and she told me,
"I'm leaving him."
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00:21:04,746 --> 00:21:07,576
We talked about her plan,
and she said,
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00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,750
"Well, there's going
to be trouble tonight
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00:21:08,853 --> 00:21:10,752
because he wants to go out
after the concert,
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00:21:10,855 --> 00:21:13,306
but I start my new position
in the morning,
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00:21:13,410 --> 00:21:14,618
and I gotta be ready."
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Michelle was a student
of mine
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since ninth grade--
September 2010.
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00:21:25,042 --> 00:21:27,527
I got to hire her
as a full-time employee
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00:21:27,631 --> 00:21:29,805
for the child care center.
348
00:21:31,117 --> 00:21:34,741
She had a natural talent
for working with the children,
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00:21:34,845 --> 00:21:38,227
and finally, she had
what she called a real job.
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00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:40,678
She said, "Now I can get
my own apartment,"
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a place for just
she and Alexis.
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00:21:43,578 --> 00:21:45,442
She was excited
about her new life,
353
00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:48,203
and the only thing wrong
in her life was Jeremy.
354
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:49,998
There seemed to be
a lot of arguing,
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00:21:50,101 --> 00:21:52,138
and he wasn't very respectful.
356
00:21:52,241 --> 00:21:53,691
From things
that Michelle had told me,
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00:21:53,795 --> 00:21:56,176
he seemed to have
quite a temper.
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She said,
"No, I'm getting out."
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00:21:57,833 --> 00:22:01,630
I was so happy.
I was happy, and I was afraid.
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00:22:01,734 --> 00:22:03,391
The most deadliest time
for a victim
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00:22:03,494 --> 00:22:06,255
is when they choose to leave.
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00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,569
She had a plan.
She was leaving. He snapped.
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00:22:09,673 --> 00:22:16,093
He killed her, and then
this sheriff protected him.
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00:22:17,888 --> 00:22:22,513
September 2010, Jeremy Banks
called 911,
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00:22:22,617 --> 00:22:26,172
saying his girlfriend Michelle
O'Connell shot herself.
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00:22:26,275 --> 00:22:28,070
He's been forthright.
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00:22:28,174 --> 00:22:30,797
He has not been
hiding anything.
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00:22:30,901 --> 00:22:33,766
St. Johns County Sheriff
David Shoar, Banks' boss,
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00:22:33,869 --> 00:22:36,907
says after a thorough review
of the evidence,
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his conclusion--
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00:22:38,736 --> 00:22:43,223
If there was any doubt
at all in my mind,
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00:22:43,327 --> 00:22:44,777
we would still be
investigating this case.
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00:22:48,988 --> 00:22:52,371
Here, we have this idyllic
seaside town,
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00:22:52,474 --> 00:22:55,926
and this terrible tragedy happens.
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00:22:56,029 --> 00:22:57,306
A young woman is dead.
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00:22:57,410 --> 00:23:00,551
Her boyfriend says
that she killed herself,
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00:23:00,655 --> 00:23:04,417
but there are members
of the sheriff's department
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00:23:04,521 --> 00:23:06,626
that doubt that narrative.
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00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:08,421
Michelle's family members
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00:23:08,525 --> 00:23:12,563
adamantly deny
that's what has happened,
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00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:14,738
and members of the community
are split.
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00:23:16,705 --> 00:23:18,811
When we realized what
we were up against,
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00:23:18,914 --> 00:23:22,953
Michelle's friends
and our family kept pushing.
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00:23:23,056 --> 00:23:25,576
Social media petitions,
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00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,201
rallies, I e-mailed
the sheriff endlessly.
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00:23:30,305 --> 00:23:32,583
More and more, we started
demanding justice for Michelle
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00:23:32,687 --> 00:23:34,930
and not going away.
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00:23:35,034 --> 00:23:37,346
Our voice was not
going to be dismissed.
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00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:39,314
I reached out to
the Florida Coalition
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00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,005
Against Domestic Violence,
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00:23:41,109 --> 00:23:44,768
the National Domestic Violence,
and it was in the news.
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00:23:44,871 --> 00:23:46,942
We would think that the St.
Johns County Sheriff's office
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00:23:47,046 --> 00:23:49,255
would like some transparency
also and show
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00:23:49,358 --> 00:23:51,809
that by ordering
a coroner's inquest
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00:23:51,913 --> 00:23:53,570
if they have nothing to hide.
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00:23:53,673 --> 00:23:55,675
The investigation
should continue.
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00:23:55,779 --> 00:23:58,747
There is something suspicious.
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00:23:58,851 --> 00:24:00,300
There's got to be
some more evidence,
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00:24:00,404 --> 00:24:03,234
something that
hasn't been uncovered.
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00:24:06,997 --> 00:24:09,413
I'm on my way
to meet Clu Wright,
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00:24:09,517 --> 00:24:11,553
a private investigator.
402
00:24:11,657 --> 00:24:17,248
Clu, pro bono, has decided
to focus on Michelle's case.
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00:24:17,352 --> 00:24:19,665
Clu Wright is a local.
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00:24:19,768 --> 00:24:22,046
Knows everybody in town.
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00:24:22,150 --> 00:24:26,188
Knows the folks who are
in the positions of power.
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00:24:26,292 --> 00:24:31,159
He is making this analysis
as a member of this community.
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00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:33,989
Clu's assessment of everything
will help clear up
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00:24:34,093 --> 00:24:35,543
a lot of my questions.
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00:24:37,165 --> 00:24:38,787
How are you?
- I'm doing great. how are you?
410
00:24:38,891 --> 00:24:40,513
I'm well.
It's so nice to meet you.
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00:24:40,617 --> 00:24:41,756
You too.
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00:24:41,859 --> 00:24:46,830
There is a ton
to just dig into.
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00:24:46,933 --> 00:24:49,660
Well, the family was strongly
against the sheriff's office
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00:24:49,764 --> 00:24:51,075
investigating this case
to begin with
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00:24:51,179 --> 00:24:54,044
because it was a a deputy
involved service weapon.
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00:24:54,147 --> 00:24:55,735
There was a lot of support
from the outside, too,
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00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,496
that the sheriff's office
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00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:59,843
should have never investigated
one of their own.
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00:24:59,946 --> 00:25:02,742
Why didn't an independent investigator
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00:25:02,846 --> 00:25:04,606
immediately take charge
of the case?
421
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:06,194
That's a good question,
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00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:09,542
and I probably should have
called them in earlier.
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00:25:09,646 --> 00:25:12,856
I think there was a mindset
that it was a suicide.
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00:25:12,959 --> 00:25:14,409
We didn't secure statements
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00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,169
from some individuals
we should have.
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00:25:16,273 --> 00:25:18,758
Four months after
the incident, Sheriff Shoar
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00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:21,589
requested the Florida
department law enforcement
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00:25:21,692 --> 00:25:24,592
to conduct
an independent investigation.
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00:25:26,628 --> 00:25:29,148
When our family learned the
FDLE was getting involved--
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00:25:29,251 --> 00:25:32,945
an outside investigation--
we definitely felt
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00:25:33,048 --> 00:25:36,189
we were on the path
to justice for Michelle.
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00:25:36,983 --> 00:25:38,744
The investigator today
assigned to her case,
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00:25:38,847 --> 00:25:40,711
to this case was Rusty Rogers.
434
00:25:40,815 --> 00:25:42,506
During his investigation,
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00:25:42,610 --> 00:25:43,990
he is starting
to collect evidence.
436
00:25:44,094 --> 00:25:46,130
He is interviewing
numerous people
437
00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:48,719
and coming up
with a hypothesis
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00:25:48,823 --> 00:25:50,825
of how Michelle O'Connell
died.
439
00:25:52,758 --> 00:25:54,967
I met Agent Rogers,
440
00:25:55,070 --> 00:25:57,625
and he wanted to do
a victimology on my sister,
441
00:25:57,728 --> 00:25:59,799
and I said, "Finally."
442
00:25:59,903 --> 00:26:01,974
He was actively
asking me questions,
443
00:26:02,077 --> 00:26:03,700
and challenging me,
"Well, what about this?
444
00:26:03,803 --> 00:26:06,668
And what about that?"
and really investigating,
445
00:26:06,772 --> 00:26:08,463
"Oh, she was getting
a promotion?
446
00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,292
"Oh, he took her phone
sometimes?
447
00:26:10,396 --> 00:26:12,398
"Oh you saw Jeremy hurt Alexis?
448
00:26:12,501 --> 00:26:14,400
Okay."
449
00:26:14,503 --> 00:26:15,781
And my niece, Alexis,
450
00:26:15,884 --> 00:26:19,647
was interviewed
by a forensic psychologist
451
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:22,788
that authored an opinion
that Alexis was abused
452
00:26:22,891 --> 00:26:24,824
at the hands of Jeremy Banks,
453
00:26:24,928 --> 00:26:29,242
and Alexis' mother was abused
at the hands of Jeremy Banks,
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00:26:29,346 --> 00:26:30,968
and Alexis witnessed it.
455
00:26:32,660 --> 00:26:34,765
The sheriff's office reports
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00:26:34,869 --> 00:26:36,974
the night
Michelle O'Connell died,
457
00:26:37,078 --> 00:26:40,253
detectives did not do
a canvass of the neighborhood.
458
00:26:40,357 --> 00:26:42,670
Agent Rogers came in
to the neighborhood
459
00:26:42,773 --> 00:26:45,707
where Jeremy Banks lives at,
460
00:26:45,811 --> 00:26:48,917
and he finds two witnesses.
461
00:26:49,021 --> 00:26:51,989
Oswald says she was in
her garage with another friend
462
00:26:52,093 --> 00:26:54,060
and heard a couple arguing.
463
00:26:54,164 --> 00:26:56,822
And then we heard a woman
yell for help.
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00:26:56,925 --> 00:26:58,686
Then there was a gunshot,
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00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:59,825
and then there was
another yell for help
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00:26:59,928 --> 00:27:01,620
and another gunshot.
467
00:27:01,723 --> 00:27:04,243
And you definitely heard
a woman call for help
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00:27:04,346 --> 00:27:05,520
not once but twice?
469
00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,315
Twice.
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00:27:07,418 --> 00:27:09,697
He finds two earwitnesses
that say they heard
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00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,838
a woman scream and gunshots.
472
00:27:12,941 --> 00:27:14,909
What else does Rogers uncover?
473
00:27:15,012 --> 00:27:19,430
He tested for DNA of the gun.
474
00:27:19,534 --> 00:27:24,746
They said they found none of
Jeremy Banks' DNA on the gun.
475
00:27:24,850 --> 00:27:27,197
The service weapon
was Jeremy's.
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00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:28,716
What does it tell you
477
00:27:28,819 --> 00:27:31,063
that there isn't
any of his DNA on this weapon?
478
00:27:31,166 --> 00:27:33,755
Somebody wiped that gun clean.
479
00:27:33,859 --> 00:27:35,895
Jeremy Banks' DNA
should be on that gun.
480
00:27:35,999 --> 00:27:38,864
Okay. The location of the gun
481
00:27:38,967 --> 00:27:42,419
becomes another very important
piece of evidence.
482
00:27:42,522 --> 00:27:44,007
Tell me about that.
483
00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:48,114
Michelle O'Connell
is a right-handed person.
484
00:27:48,218 --> 00:27:51,014
The gun was found
on her left side.
485
00:27:51,117 --> 00:27:55,812
If she's right-handed, how did
the gun get to her left side?
486
00:27:55,915 --> 00:27:57,434
How did the sheriff's
department
487
00:27:57,537 --> 00:27:59,919
explain all of the issues?
488
00:28:00,023 --> 00:28:03,958
Explain to me what the second
medical examiner's theory was.
489
00:28:04,061 --> 00:28:06,098
How did Michelle shoot herself?
490
00:28:06,201 --> 00:28:08,617
Well, Dr. Bulic is the chief
medical examiner,
491
00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:10,274
forensic pathologist.
492
00:28:10,378 --> 00:28:14,693
They asked him to revisit
the case and render an opinion.
493
00:28:14,796 --> 00:28:17,972
Dr. Bulic, he come up
with a different theory
494
00:28:18,075 --> 00:28:21,872
of how he thought Michelle
O'Connell committed suicide.
495
00:28:21,976 --> 00:28:23,322
He copy and paste some stuff
496
00:28:23,425 --> 00:28:25,634
on a piece of paper
with some measurements.
497
00:28:25,738 --> 00:28:27,291
Mm-hmm.
498
00:28:27,395 --> 00:28:30,294
But in this picture,
you'll see Dr. Bulic,
499
00:28:30,398 --> 00:28:33,608
how he thinks she received
the injury above her eye.
500
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,024
He holds a gun upside-down.
501
00:28:36,128 --> 00:28:38,855
Michelle sticks the gun
in her mouth,
502
00:28:38,958 --> 00:28:41,823
and when she fires,
the tac light went forward
503
00:28:41,927 --> 00:28:43,825
and caused the injury
to her eye.
504
00:28:43,929 --> 00:28:47,104
Well, anybody that has any
knowledge in service weapons
505
00:28:47,208 --> 00:28:49,175
know that when fire that gun,
506
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,868
it doesn't matter what position
you have, it recoils backwards.
507
00:28:51,971 --> 00:28:55,526
Yeah, I've never heard
of a gun jumping forward.
508
00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:58,219
Dr. Bulic gave his opinion
and ruled it a suicide,
509
00:28:58,322 --> 00:29:00,635
and that's what
the sheriff's office ran with.
510
00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:03,362
But other experts
disagreed, right?
511
00:29:03,465 --> 00:29:07,469
Yeah, Agent Rogers hired
a forensic expert, Mr. Findley.
512
00:29:07,573 --> 00:29:10,058
They did a lot of forensics on
the gun, the firing of the gun.
513
00:29:10,162 --> 00:29:11,439
He shoots it
with the left hand,
514
00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:14,269
the right hand, upside-down.
515
00:29:14,373 --> 00:29:16,755
Dr. Findley says there's no
way that Michelle O'Connell
516
00:29:16,858 --> 00:29:18,653
could have shot herself
in this position
517
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:21,829
with this gun upside-down.
518
00:29:21,932 --> 00:29:23,934
Also, my question would be,
519
00:29:24,038 --> 00:29:25,764
if somebody was to
shoot herself,
520
00:29:25,867 --> 00:29:27,144
you would expect
a large amount of blood
521
00:29:27,248 --> 00:29:29,768
would be visible somewhere
on the carpet,
522
00:29:29,871 --> 00:29:32,011
on the floor,
on the shirt, on the bed.
523
00:29:32,115 --> 00:29:34,082
There's no blood
from her neck down.
524
00:29:34,186 --> 00:29:38,777
All the blood flow is running
down the side of her face.
525
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,020
As facts of the case
came out,
526
00:29:41,124 --> 00:29:44,058
as told to us by Agent Rogers,
527
00:29:44,161 --> 00:29:46,508
everyone on my shift walked out
and said,
528
00:29:46,612 --> 00:29:48,890
[exhales]
"Are you kidding me?
529
00:29:48,994 --> 00:29:50,892
He killed her."
530
00:29:50,996 --> 00:29:53,861
I was devastated.
531
00:29:53,964 --> 00:29:57,036
Agent Rogers presents
a PowerPoint show
532
00:29:57,140 --> 00:29:59,073
to the medical
examiner's office
533
00:29:59,176 --> 00:30:03,249
and the reason why he thinks
Michelle O'Connell did not
534
00:30:03,353 --> 00:30:06,390
shoot herself,
and during that presentation
535
00:30:06,494 --> 00:30:10,049
is when Dr. Hobin
changed the death certificate
536
00:30:10,153 --> 00:30:12,569
from a suicide to a homicide.
537
00:30:17,712 --> 00:30:20,577
[somber music]
538
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,406
♪
539
00:30:22,510 --> 00:30:26,963
Agent Rusty Rogers does
the investigation.
540
00:30:27,066 --> 00:30:28,585
What happens next?
541
00:30:28,688 --> 00:30:31,795
What happened was the FDLE
did their investigation.
542
00:30:31,899 --> 00:30:34,211
It was presented
to the state attorney,
543
00:30:34,315 --> 00:30:37,111
who at the time
was R.J. Larizza.
544
00:30:37,214 --> 00:30:39,976
It felt good. It felt like
someone's gonna listen.
545
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:44,118
This is now in the right hands,
and I was very hopeful
546
00:30:44,221 --> 00:30:47,673
that there would be,
you know, charges.
547
00:30:47,776 --> 00:30:49,157
An investigator who works
548
00:30:49,261 --> 00:30:51,263
for the state attorney's
office called me,
549
00:30:51,366 --> 00:30:53,679
and they want to talk
about Michelle.
550
00:30:53,782 --> 00:30:56,716
"We know something terrible
happened to your daughter.
551
00:30:56,820 --> 00:31:00,237
We need permission
to exhume her."
552
00:31:00,341 --> 00:31:05,104
I broke into tears,
and I was shaking,
553
00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:08,073
and I thought, "They're gonna
see what really happened.
554
00:31:08,176 --> 00:31:10,006
They know something's up.
They really do."
555
00:31:12,249 --> 00:31:13,906
I heard while I was working
556
00:31:14,010 --> 00:31:17,323
that there was
a warrant for Jeremy.
557
00:31:17,427 --> 00:31:20,223
And I thought Rusty Rogers
had gotten enough evidence
558
00:31:20,326 --> 00:31:24,123
to go ahead and arrest him
for this homicide.
559
00:31:24,227 --> 00:31:25,780
For the exhumation,
560
00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:28,300
they were gonna send me
a form to sign.
561
00:31:28,403 --> 00:31:31,890
For 2 weeks,
nobody sends me no form.
562
00:31:33,961 --> 00:31:35,997
My mom never heard
from them again.
563
00:31:38,448 --> 00:31:40,968
And then R.J. Larizza,
the state attorney,
564
00:31:41,071 --> 00:31:43,936
writes a letter
to our then governor and says,
565
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,042
"I need to recuse myself
566
00:31:46,145 --> 00:31:49,114
because I'm too involved
with the sheriff,"
567
00:31:49,217 --> 00:31:51,944
and all the information was
sent to another state attorney,
568
00:31:52,048 --> 00:31:56,915
Brad King, who ordered
his own investigation
569
00:31:57,018 --> 00:32:01,574
and had a former medical
examiner review the case,
570
00:32:01,678 --> 00:32:05,578
and this medical examiner says,
"I think it was a suicide."
571
00:32:07,753 --> 00:32:10,307
And that was the second
worst day of my life.
572
00:32:13,862 --> 00:32:16,244
Brad King,
in our family meeting,
573
00:32:16,348 --> 00:32:19,109
said something along
the lines of, "You know,
574
00:32:19,213 --> 00:32:22,216
it'd be terrible to accuse
a man of a crime he didn't do."
575
00:32:24,873 --> 00:32:27,911
Did you have anything to do
576
00:32:28,015 --> 00:32:30,051
with Michelle's death?
- No, sir.
577
00:32:30,155 --> 00:32:32,951
- Did you kill Michelle?
- No, sir.
578
00:32:33,054 --> 00:32:35,436
I remember visiting her grave.
579
00:32:35,539 --> 00:32:38,473
A friend of hers showed up,
and we sat and talked,
580
00:32:38,577 --> 00:32:40,579
and she asked me
that question too.
581
00:32:40,682 --> 00:32:43,099
My answer is always
going to be the same, no.
582
00:32:46,343 --> 00:32:47,862
After the Florida Department
583
00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:49,968
of Law Enforcement investigation,
584
00:32:50,071 --> 00:32:53,005
it gets shut down.
585
00:32:53,109 --> 00:32:55,835
And I went in, and I talked to
the detectives,
586
00:32:55,939 --> 00:32:57,527
and I said,
"Why was I just informed
587
00:32:57,630 --> 00:33:00,116
that this case
is going nowhere,
588
00:33:00,219 --> 00:33:03,015
that you are not arresting
Jeremy Banks?"
589
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:08,055
I was livid.
590
00:33:08,158 --> 00:33:13,301
This is a copy
of an e-mail I sent Brad King.
591
00:33:13,405 --> 00:33:20,205
"There's a code of silence
in law enforcement.
592
00:33:20,308 --> 00:33:25,141
"We don't tell on each other.
We don't rat each other out
593
00:33:25,244 --> 00:33:28,903
"because you might be running
into that gunfight alone.
594
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:33,114
"The blue or green line,
it's not thin.
595
00:33:33,218 --> 00:33:36,186
It's really thick,
596
00:33:36,290 --> 00:33:42,227
and when you're on
the wrong side of that line--"
597
00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:46,058
I sent Mr. King this e-mail.
598
00:33:46,162 --> 00:33:48,405
Dr. Hobin made a statement
599
00:33:48,509 --> 00:33:52,547
that when he changed
the death certificate,
600
00:33:52,651 --> 00:33:55,067
he was convinced
it was probably homicide.
601
00:33:55,171 --> 00:33:56,896
He said those words.
602
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,071
What would it hurt
603
00:33:59,175 --> 00:34:04,559
to at least
let this go in front of a jury?
604
00:34:04,663 --> 00:34:06,734
I would write this again.
605
00:34:08,494 --> 00:34:11,566
We have Jeremy Banks with us
and his parents.
606
00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:14,362
I've known both of them
for many, many, many years.
607
00:34:14,466 --> 00:34:16,261
This guy right here
came so damn
608
00:34:16,364 --> 00:34:20,748
close to being charged
with homicide, it's scary.
609
00:34:23,406 --> 00:34:25,649
We then get introduced
to Clu Wright,
610
00:34:25,753 --> 00:34:28,721
and he reaches out
to our family and says,
611
00:34:28,825 --> 00:34:30,275
"There's something wrong.
612
00:34:30,378 --> 00:34:32,967
I'm going to do my own
personal investigation."
613
00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:36,557
He said, "Patty, I need
permission to exhume Michelle,"
614
00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:38,938
and he said,
"I'm going to have
615
00:34:39,042 --> 00:34:42,666
a medical examiner
do another autopsy."
616
00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:46,498
And I said, "Okay."
He just wants the truth.
617
00:34:48,396 --> 00:34:51,710
You ask Michelle's family
if you can exhume
618
00:34:51,813 --> 00:34:55,300
Michelle's body
four years after her death,
619
00:34:55,403 --> 00:34:56,853
and that was the autopsy
620
00:34:56,956 --> 00:34:59,338
that you guys have been
fighting for for years.
621
00:34:59,442 --> 00:35:02,376
Now we have the opportunity
to do it.
622
00:35:02,479 --> 00:35:05,172
I found a forensic pathologist,
Dr. William Anderson,
623
00:35:05,275 --> 00:35:07,519
and he agreed to conduct
624
00:35:07,622 --> 00:35:11,074
the second autopsy
of Michelle O'Connell for free.
625
00:35:11,178 --> 00:35:13,387
- That's huge.
- It is huge.
626
00:35:15,389 --> 00:35:18,288
I am Dr. William Anderson.
I am a forensic pathologist.
627
00:35:18,392 --> 00:35:20,532
I've probably done
about 9,000 autopsies.
628
00:35:22,327 --> 00:35:24,605
Suicides, in the thousands,
629
00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:29,196
many of which are gunshot
wounds, and many homicides.
630
00:35:29,299 --> 00:35:31,922
Clu Wright contacted me
because he wanted me
631
00:35:32,026 --> 00:35:33,683
to look into this case
632
00:35:33,786 --> 00:35:36,720
to see whether or not
this was a suicide.
633
00:35:36,824 --> 00:35:40,345
The first thing I did
was to look at
634
00:35:40,448 --> 00:35:42,312
all the information I had
635
00:35:42,416 --> 00:35:45,488
to see if there's anything
that's unusual, and right away,
636
00:35:45,591 --> 00:35:47,800
there were a couple
of red flags that came up.
637
00:35:47,904 --> 00:35:50,113
There was, on the x-ray,
it looked like a fracture
638
00:35:50,217 --> 00:35:52,909
of the mandible,
or the jaw bone.
639
00:35:53,012 --> 00:35:55,325
That was a problem because
it had not been reported
640
00:35:55,429 --> 00:35:57,569
in the medical
examiner's report.
641
00:35:57,672 --> 00:36:00,054
I felt we needed to go ahead
and do an exhumation.
642
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:03,057
♪
643
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:04,231
We had to get
with the cemetery
644
00:36:04,334 --> 00:36:05,818
and get everything signed
645
00:36:05,922 --> 00:36:08,718
and done in accordance
with the laws of Florida.
646
00:36:08,821 --> 00:36:10,616
The body was exhumed.
647
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,550
We wanted to keep this a secret
from anybody and everybody
648
00:36:13,654 --> 00:36:16,312
until after the autopsy
was done.
649
00:36:16,415 --> 00:36:17,968
It took a little while,
but I kept aggravating him.
650
00:36:18,072 --> 00:36:20,316
I said, "Listen, Dr. Anderson,
I'm an impatient person.
651
00:36:20,419 --> 00:36:21,627
Come on.
You got to do this report."
652
00:36:21,731 --> 00:36:23,698
So finally he got it back
to me, you know,
653
00:36:23,802 --> 00:36:26,149
and when I looked
at that report,
654
00:36:26,253 --> 00:36:27,461
I'm like, "That's great news."
655
00:36:32,914 --> 00:36:36,159
What does the new autopsy
report show?
656
00:36:36,263 --> 00:36:38,230
Dr. Anderson told me
that her mandible,
657
00:36:38,334 --> 00:36:40,577
straight down the middle
of her jaw bone,
658
00:36:40,681 --> 00:36:42,200
and it was fractured
all the way through
659
00:36:42,303 --> 00:36:43,718
So her chin
was broken in half.
660
00:36:43,822 --> 00:36:45,755
Her chin was broken
in half, yes.
661
00:36:45,858 --> 00:36:48,792
That's a really, like,
strong bone.
662
00:36:48,896 --> 00:36:50,553
It's, like, the strongest bone
in your head, right?
663
00:36:50,656 --> 00:36:52,451
Yes.
664
00:36:52,555 --> 00:36:55,143
So he was saying it would take
a significant amount of force,
665
00:36:55,247 --> 00:36:57,318
you know, like a boxer
or getting in a wreck
666
00:36:57,422 --> 00:37:00,287
or some type of kicking force
to really break that.
667
00:37:02,047 --> 00:37:04,394
And during this autopsy,
my conclusion was,
668
00:37:04,498 --> 00:37:06,327
looking at all
the patterns of injuries,
669
00:37:06,431 --> 00:37:08,881
the blow to the jaw,
670
00:37:08,985 --> 00:37:12,471
which enough to incapacitate
her, stun her at least,
671
00:37:12,575 --> 00:37:14,922
and then the gunshot is fired.
672
00:37:15,025 --> 00:37:19,340
The gunshot is fired in a way
that strongly indicates
673
00:37:19,444 --> 00:37:22,723
that she did not have
reflex capability
674
00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:24,172
to prevent her tongue
675
00:37:24,276 --> 00:37:26,761
from being forced
into the back of her mouth,
676
00:37:26,865 --> 00:37:28,763
which would mean
she was unconscious
677
00:37:28,867 --> 00:37:33,458
or at least areflexive
at the time.
678
00:37:33,561 --> 00:37:36,150
This feels like a bombshell.
679
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:37,841
It is a bombshell.
680
00:37:37,945 --> 00:37:40,913
I--you know,
in domestic violence cases,
681
00:37:41,017 --> 00:37:45,746
showing that there's an attack,
showing that there's an abuse
682
00:37:45,849 --> 00:37:48,438
is such an important part
of creating what happened,
683
00:37:48,542 --> 00:37:51,614
the story of what happened,
like, the victimology.
684
00:37:51,717 --> 00:37:53,788
The report from Dr. Anderson
685
00:37:53,892 --> 00:37:56,826
showed that Michelle's jaw
was fractured.
686
00:37:56,929 --> 00:38:00,381
Michelle was battered,
and there was a struggle,
687
00:38:00,485 --> 00:38:04,143
and Michelle was murdered.
688
00:38:04,247 --> 00:38:06,456
There was a crime.
689
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,528
It was not a suicide.
690
00:38:09,632 --> 00:38:11,461
We continue an I-Team
investigation
691
00:38:11,565 --> 00:38:14,361
of new autopsy findings
in the controversial death
692
00:38:14,464 --> 00:38:16,846
of a St. Augustine woman,
Michelle O'Connell.
693
00:38:16,949 --> 00:38:18,261
Since this came out,
694
00:38:18,365 --> 00:38:20,159
St. Johns
County Sheriff David Shoar,
695
00:38:20,263 --> 00:38:22,852
who has for years
stood by the initial findings
696
00:38:22,955 --> 00:38:24,440
that this was a suicide,
697
00:38:24,543 --> 00:38:26,925
penned a lengthy
and scathing letter saying,
698
00:38:27,028 --> 00:38:29,824
"The information presented
today is nothing new
699
00:38:29,928 --> 00:38:32,724
"and all was reviewed
during the initial autopsy.
700
00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:35,313
"Molesting Michelle
from her place of rest
701
00:38:35,416 --> 00:38:37,625
"using some freelance-type
approach
702
00:38:37,729 --> 00:38:40,973
is beyond unconventional.
It was reprehensible."
703
00:38:41,077 --> 00:38:48,015
♪
704
00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:53,607
You get to a point, you know,
you got to tell yourself
705
00:38:53,710 --> 00:38:56,472
to slow down because
you're overlooking things.
706
00:38:56,575 --> 00:38:59,544
I started looking into
the crime scene photos.
707
00:38:59,647 --> 00:39:03,410
There's eight photographs
that were taken by a deputy
708
00:39:03,513 --> 00:39:05,481
before anything was moved.
709
00:39:05,584 --> 00:39:07,655
There is a shirt
that's on the bed.
710
00:39:07,759 --> 00:39:12,315
It's right above her head.
So I zoomed in on that shirt.
711
00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:14,490
I jumped up.
I'm like, "What the hell?"
712
00:39:14,593 --> 00:39:16,664
It appears to have
a gunshot hole in it.
713
00:39:16,768 --> 00:39:20,703
You can see the jagged edges
with gunpowder, blood.
714
00:39:20,806 --> 00:39:23,291
You can almost tell that
there's an outline of a gun.
715
00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:26,260
This shirt was never tested.
716
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:29,297
I submitted this photograph
to a forensic photographer
717
00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:30,816
to look at this shirt.
718
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,886
The St. Johns
County Sheriff's office,
719
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:33,336
state attorney's office,
720
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,338
they use this same person
on their cases.
721
00:39:35,442 --> 00:39:36,926
In his professional opinion,
722
00:39:37,029 --> 00:39:38,652
there's a bullet hole
in that shirt.
723
00:39:41,102 --> 00:39:45,279
My theory is that shirt was put
over Michelle O'Connell's face.
724
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:49,559
That gun was shoved into her
mouth, and that gun was fired.
725
00:39:49,663 --> 00:39:52,010
That's why you see
no other blood on the floor
726
00:39:52,113 --> 00:39:55,151
or anywhere else except running
down the side of her face.
727
00:39:58,741 --> 00:40:01,295
This is a massive
piece of evidence.
728
00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:03,470
This is the most
important forensic evidence
729
00:40:03,573 --> 00:40:05,575
at that scene.
730
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:07,405
I think it would break
this case wide open.
731
00:40:17,794 --> 00:40:20,279
I never realized
how powerful
732
00:40:20,383 --> 00:40:23,697
the sheriff in a town could be
733
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,562
and how people
can misuse that power,
734
00:40:26,665 --> 00:40:28,909
but this experience
with my sister,
735
00:40:29,012 --> 00:40:33,672
watching all these twists
and all these mishandlings,
736
00:40:33,776 --> 00:40:36,434
it's changed
how I look at people.
737
00:40:37,918 --> 00:40:41,024
The new sheriff
is Robby Hardwick,
738
00:40:41,128 --> 00:40:43,993
and I hope he is motivated
to do the right thing.
739
00:40:46,064 --> 00:40:49,723
I'm glad that she has you.
You have such a strength,
740
00:40:51,932 --> 00:40:55,453
and I don't know how you do it,
and I'm sure there are days
741
00:40:55,556 --> 00:40:58,939
that are worse
and better than others.
742
00:40:59,042 --> 00:41:02,390
I have perpetual hope
that the right information
743
00:41:02,494 --> 00:41:04,876
will get in the right hands
and the right person will care,
744
00:41:04,979 --> 00:41:08,569
you know,
and be moved by the story,
745
00:41:08,673 --> 00:41:10,537
and I think someday
I'll come out here,
746
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,264
and I'll say, "I did it.
You know, we did it."
747
00:41:14,368 --> 00:41:16,439
I will because it's just,
like--
748
00:41:16,543 --> 00:41:17,889
Yeah, I know. I know.
749
00:41:17,992 --> 00:41:20,892
Thank you.
It's just, like, a promise.
750
00:41:27,174 --> 00:41:29,210
The only two people
that really know
751
00:41:29,314 --> 00:41:34,008
what happened that night
are Michelle and Jeremy,
752
00:41:34,112 --> 00:41:36,942
and yet there are members
of the sheriff's department,
753
00:41:37,046 --> 00:41:40,532
members of the community
who have very really concerns
754
00:41:40,636 --> 00:41:43,155
about how the investigation
played out.
755
00:41:43,259 --> 00:41:45,537
So at the very least,
756
00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:47,505
put the information
in front of a grand jury.
757
00:41:49,645 --> 00:41:54,201
Hope lies with good people
coming forward
758
00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:57,411
and doing work that is hard.
759
00:41:57,515 --> 00:42:00,552
When you know something
is wrong,
760
00:42:00,656 --> 00:42:03,106
there's no one else
to come in and fix it.
761
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:04,556
You have to do it.
762
00:42:04,660 --> 00:42:11,667
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