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Hey, I just saw
something zip by me.
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MATTY:
Just when you thought
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the mystery
of Skinwalker Ranch had
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reached its peak...
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There's a manufactured material
inside the mesa.
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We got to get this thing tested.
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MATTY:
...evidence of a much
deeper secret is revealed.
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TRAVIS:
Are those holes getting bigger?
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Now this stuff is fixing itself.
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-BRANDON: What?
-TRAVIS: Holy crap.
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MATTY:
After the stunning events
of the Season Six premiere...
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TRAVIS:
That changes history
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'cause it means somebody
put it in there somehow.
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MATTY:
...I'm meeting with the team
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for an exclusive
insider's take...
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Are we dealing with something
truly physical out there?
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MATTY:
...on what's to come...
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I want to know
what the hell it is.
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MATTY:
...and how it could
change the world
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as we know it.
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Could this be something to do
with a wormhole or a portal?
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But it certainly
grabbed my attention.
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♪ ♪
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MATTY: Gentlemen...
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what a way to kick off
Season Six.
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Wow. I wanted to talk
about that piece of material
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from inside the mesa
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that might change the world,
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and I want to get there,
and we will get there.
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But, Brandon, I want to go to
you and get your general feeling
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as to what this team has done.
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This team has accomplished
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what no other effort
has been able
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to really see here
at Skinwalker Ranch, which is
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leading us down paths that, uh,
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that I think are going
to help us get some answers.
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Amazing. The episode started off
with that mysterious object,
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that piece of ceramic.
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But then, you guys conducted
an incredible experiment
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involving a helicopter.
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What were you looking to find?
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Well, all of our lidar
instruments are saying
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there's something there
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in this dome shape
around the ranch
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centered at the triangle,
around 2,000 feet in radius.
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ERIK: You know,
one interpretation, of course,
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is that we're dealing
with something,
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and it's out there, really,
uh, out in objective reality.
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So we're exploring that.
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This experiment, it's really
a mapping exercise. You know?
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We're taking this aircraft
with instruments aboard
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through the boundary
of whatever this thing is
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that we're calling the dome.
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We're collecting GPS data
from the helicopter...
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...and we have different
forms of lidar,
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which is a measurement technique
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involving invisible laser light.
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Also, as part of the experiment,
you know, we're monitoring
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with our on-the-ground
spectrum analyzers.
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And what happened?
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ERIK:
We have evidence of that,
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you know, 2,000 feet or so
radius structure in the data,
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you know,
both in the space above,
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and we're getting
anomalous returns below ground,
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which should be impossible.
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TRAVIS: When we put
the lidar points on a map,
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they draw this bubble.
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So, the lidar is not
designed to pick up things
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underground and yet,
you're seeing data?
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ERIK:
That's absolutely right.
It is not designed to do that.
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TRAVIS:
You know, there's one
other piece that happened
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during this experiment
that wasn't expected
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or even part of the experiment.
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And, Thomas, you saw it
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with the hand communications,
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walkies between the ground
and the helicopter.
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Yeah.
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Something is blocking
the radio signal.
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Hey, guys. Be advised,
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we have good strong comms
with him
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until he gets directly
over the triangle
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and then his transmission
becomes so garbled
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we can't understand him.
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We were watching
the helicopter's GPS location
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as well as with our eyes
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as it was flying back and forth.
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And almost without exception,
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when the helicopter would fly
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through where we've identified
this boundary to be,
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of this bubble, we would have
garbled communications
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over the two-way radio.
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Well, Cameron also
reported disruption
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with the equipment
on the helicopter as well.
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I think that's
important to know.
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ERIK: We're still
at the stage of determining,
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are we dealing with something
truly physical out there?
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Or are we dealing with something
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that is a structure in the data?
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Both of those are
very interesting.
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What could be putting that
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into those instrument readings?
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-Multiple instruments.
-Yes.
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You know, I-I think that's
important you say that
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'cause in my layman terms,
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I'm thinking
of this dome or bubble,
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and you think of,
you imagine things hitting it
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like a force field or something.
You're saying that's not quite--
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-We're not saying
it's not a force field.
-MATTY: Okay.
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-We don't know
what the answer is.
-Fair enough. Yeah.
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Right? All we know is
we have a bunch of data,
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so there's something weird.
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And we-we're trying
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to narrow down the solution set
for whatever this is.
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-Copy that.
-THOMAS: When I first saw
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the-the dome or the bubble
as we're calling it,
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uh, I was immediately
skeptical of it
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but we're picking up
all kinds of anomalies,
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both on the outside
as well as in the center.
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I mean, Erik and Travis,
we've collected all kinds
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of unbelievable data right there
in the center of the triangle.
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You see the hole in the data
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from the lidar scan
that OmniTeq did?
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Not to mention
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all the UAPs that we've captured
when we've been out there
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doing work there
in the triangle.
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It really makes me
start to wonder, you know,
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could this be something to do
with a wormhole or a portal?
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Yeah, and let me add to that
a little bit.
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We're not saying that
there's a, uh, a wormhole
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as we understand
from general relativity
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out there at the triangle.
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Everybody's seen
science fiction movies.
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You know,
a gate opens up at one end
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and then somewhere else
across the universe,
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and you go in, it's a shortcut
to go extreme distances, right?
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Well, if this were a wormhole
above the triangle, uh,
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as we understand wormholes,
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it takes huge amounts
of gravitational interactions,
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it would be
destroying the planet.
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-Right.
-TRAVIS: If it's that close.
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This bubble is
something more exotic,
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more-- or different,
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or-or something
we don't understand yet.
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ERIK:
Yeah, during this experiment,
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we've got multiple datasets
from multiple equipment types
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telling us that there's
just returns
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and-and signals and things
that don't make sense,
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they don't belong there.
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What is the true secret
of Skinwalker Ranch?
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Well, in the incredible
Season Six premiere,
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the team may have come
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one major step closer
to revealing the answer.
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Gentlemen, when we last left,
we were talking about
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this amazing experiment you did.
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Erik, I wanted to talk about
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some of these new anomalies
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that you were seeing
in this experiment
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and what that might have
told you in terms of a bubble.
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ERIK:
Yeah. Yeah.
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We're taking the aircraft
with instruments aboard,
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traversing the space,
exploring the boundaries
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and the region inside what we're
calling the dome or the bubble.
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So, as we're painting
the space with data
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from those GPS tracking devices
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that are broadcasting
the location back to a receiver,
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we're starting to see
a concentration
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of these error points
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right over the triangle.
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CAMERON (over walkie):
Coming up over the triangle
at this time.
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400 feet and nine knots.
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ERIK:
Look, look.
It's happening again.
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Yeah.
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ERIK: Yet again,
it's like the data is
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disappearing into a void.
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The GPS data itself
is corrupted.
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Especially in a region
right over the triangle,
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forming, if you will,
a vertical structure,
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but especially dense
at increasing altitude.
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I would compare it
to an apple core.
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Mm. You know what goes in
and out of apples, don't you?
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Worms.
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-(chuckles)
-Wormholes.
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TRAVIS:
Well, if you look
at an eaten apple core,
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you've got the tops of it,
it flares out, right?
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It's like two funnels
stuck at the--
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like an hourglass, for example.
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And that's the way we draw
for illustration purposes
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what an Einstein-Rosen Bridge,
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or a wormhole would
actually look like.
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Why is it that the GPS is
what's affected this way?
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MATTY:
Erik, help me understand.
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Are these gaps
or is this corrupted?
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Is it disappearing?
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ERIK:
That's a great question.
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With some of the GPS readings,
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we have the position itself
being misreported.
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In other cases,
it is the corruption of the data
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as it passes
through those regions.
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And something is interfering
with the transmission
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of that signal
back to the base station.
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TRAVIS:
And so think about that.
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There is this bubble
where data corruption occurs.
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Why is it in that location,
why is it localized?
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It's conglomerated,
it's consolidated
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right in that one spot.
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That gets my attention.
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You know, Brandon,
I think of you
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because you were watching this
kind of live-time happen,
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-these anomalies happen
with the GPS.
-Right.
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-What do you make of this?
-BRANDON: Well,
watching the data emerge,
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real time,
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as this entire experiment is
playing out, was exciting.
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I mean, it was verification.
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What we see is
true validation that there are
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anomalies and there's
something focused
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within that region
of the property.
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And we're seeing it repeatedly.
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And across multiple
scientific platforms.
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If there's something messing
with GPS out here on the ranch,
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I want to know
what the hell it is.
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THOMAS:
You know, I have to think,
there's got to be
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some type of intelligence
because it's affecting
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an entire spectrum of,
of equipment and technologies.
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TRAVIS:
And-and as far as I know,
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humanity does not have
that capability yet.
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To do what we're
describing here.
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To-to manipulate all of these
different types of instruments.
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And we even asked a,
uh, a super hacker
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if he could reproduce
some of these things,
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and-and he said that he--
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that the technology
doesn't exist.
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KALEB:
And that's what crazy.
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Is it's multiple technologies
across the board.
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BRANDON:
Typical jamming
and spoofing wouldn't
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involve all of the other
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-sensor equipment.
-TRAVIS: Oh, Lord, no.
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ERIK:
Yeah, j-jamming
and spoofing is like
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someone yelling, whereas
what we're seeing might be akin
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to someone speaking.
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-Right.
-MATTY: I wanted
you to say that.
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And speaking multiple languages.
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-There we go.
-MATTY: That's crazy.
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Erik, you mentioned
jamming and spoofing.
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-Yeah.
-MATTY: How about next level up,
mimicking?
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Because with some of the signals
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you were broadcasting
and then received,
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it almost seemed like the ranch
was talking back to you.
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Yeah, yeah, there did seem to be
a Polo to our Marco.
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Uh, recall, we have this
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1.2 gigahertz transmitter
on the aircraft.
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And I'm tracking the position
of this, of this signal
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coming from the transmitter,
and another signal shows up.
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TRAVIS:
So check this out.
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There is a signal
that is not Erik
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right there by the signal
that Erik is sending.
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That-- I don't know,
it don't make any sense.
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KALEB:
No.
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Erik and I specifically had
the conversation
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on what frequency we needed
to set our transmitter up
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to follow, and we wanted it
to be outside of anything
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we'd ever seen happen
on the ranch before.
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And we looked and we said,
"Well, 1.2 gigahertz,
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"we've never seen
any signals coming from there.
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"That's a wide-open spot.
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Let's use that."
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-So broadcast that.
-And-and so we did.
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And on the-the first day
we do that,
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it's like
something said, "Oh, hi."
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And-and-and yelled hi
back at us, right?
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We were pinging
and we got a ping back.
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-Interesting.
-TRAVIS: So there was a signal--
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-So, it wasn't you?
-It wasn't us.
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We looked around for it.
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And it seemed to be
moving in position.
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That-That's about as, uh, good
as we could, we could say.
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Well, this is
a little frightening.
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That's next level.
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The ranch or somebody or
something talking back to you.
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Is it possible that someone
or something is
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actually trying
to communicate with this team
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while they're
conducting experiments?
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Well, what we saw
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in the incredible
Season Six premiere
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just might justify
that question.
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Gentlemen, we were
talking about this mysterious
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1.2 gigahertz signal.
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Not coming from you--
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you've eliminated
that it's coming from you--
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and during that time,
another anomaly happens.
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You're talking about
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what Pete Kelsey reported
having seen
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-with the naked eye...
-MATTY: Yes.
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...as he's flying,
uh, you know, with Cameron.
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CAMERON (over walkie): Be
advised we are proceeding east.
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We are at the west side
of the dome.
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Copy that.
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Hey, I just saw
something zip by me.
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Whoa!
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They were over
the Homestead Two area
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and he reports seeing something
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going across his field of view
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west to east,
brighter than the surroundings.
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No one else saw it at the time.
However,
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on review of the video record,
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we do see bright objects moving.
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So we may actually have
a recording of what Pete saw.
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And the video shows it
coming from about treetop high
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over Homestead Two,
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and in the direction
toward, uh, the triangle.
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And that's pretty fascinating,
especially since,
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you know, when Kaleb
and I were following
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that 1.2 gigahertz signal,
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it appeared to be coming
from that direction.
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Now that's interesting.
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So, this happened
during the time you're getting
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that 1.2 gigahertz signal.
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Could that be your source,
that UAP?
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Or has been
any corroborative data
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that every time you're
getting a signal like that,
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you're seeing a UAP
at the same time,
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could they be connected?
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We have an abundance
of data showing
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that electromagnetic effects
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and signal effects occur,
oftentimes,
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in tandem with UAP
or UFO activity registered
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and documented
above the property.
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Now that you've had
this 1.2 gigahertz signal,
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that's-- I think it's something
interesting in the data
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that shows that there's
something really going on.
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MATTY:
Well, let's go back
to the bubble.
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I mean, could this UAP have
gone through the bubble,
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or come from the bubble,
for example,
333
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because it's so anomalous there?
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And this makes me think,
too, Travis,
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of, again, that ring
336
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or that donut-shaped anomaly
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right in the center
of this bubble.
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That could be the point,
the entry-exit point.
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TRAVIS:
You know, and one of the things
we've often discussed,
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are they coming or going, right?
341
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And what is the mechanism?
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Is it an interplay
between whatever is
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at the triangle,
the anomaly in the middle?
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Is this bubble, uh, maybe
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protecting or working
as the transition area
346
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for whatever
this doorway might be?
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-Like in Stargate.
-Yeah.
348
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-Remember the movie Stargate?
-Yeah, just like,
just like that.
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-Yes, yes, yes.
-ERIK: But, you know,
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think about why we're
conducting the experiment.
351
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We're passing through this,
this boundary layer.
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We're passing
through the apple core
353
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that we've been talking about.
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I'm wondering
whether what we've seen
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in the 1.2 gigahertz as well
356
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as this potential orb,
could be a response
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to the helicopter, which is
producing quite a bit of,
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of energy as it passes
through those regions.
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-Amazing.
-ERIK: Very interesting
thoughts.
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TRAVIS:
Well, and-and we know
that we get
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responses from experiments,
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or at least things
that appear to be responses,
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like when we launched the rocket
and hit whatever the blob is.
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Hey, check this out,
there's something on the camera.
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KALEB:
Yeah, look at that.
Look at the light.
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TRAVIS:
There is literally something.
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We may be looking at the anomaly
for the first time, guys.
368
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Burdette, could you play it
one more time?
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I want to make sure I saw
what I think I just saw.
370
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Right, now the rocket
is almost there.
371
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And then the rocket
blows up right when it hits it!
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Look at that.
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So you can see it right there,
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there's something in the sky.
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KALEB: Its already
illuminated by the light.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah. Oh, my God.
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And that's right there
in the middle of the triangle,
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right in the center
of this apple core.
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And so, is the bubble
protecting whatever this is?
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One thing is for sure,
we're seeing so many UAPs here,
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and they're correlated
with the things
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that we're doing
in our experiment.
383
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So, you know,
it does lead you to believe
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that there is
some type of connection.
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TRAVIS:
And could the connection also be
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to what that was
that we found that we showed
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at the very beginning of that,
of this episode.
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I'm very glad
you just brought that up,
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because it's where this
season premiere kicked off.
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It's what grabbed
the world's attention.
391
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It's what certainly
grabbed my attention.
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The revelations
in the Season Six premiere
393
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of The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch suggest
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there are many more
shocking things to come.
395
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Gentlemen, you know,
I watched that footage.
396
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If you've been following
this type of thing,
397
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like I have since I was
about ten years old, ufology,
398
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UAPs, all this, you hear
about strange materials.
399
00:16:19,708 --> 00:16:21,333
What do we make of this ceramic?
400
00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:22,875
Wow.
401
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,292
When I purchased the ranch,
402
00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:27,583
I believed that there was
a natural explanation,
403
00:16:27,750 --> 00:16:29,625
most likely, behind everything
404
00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:33,417
that had been reported
for decades, if not millennia.
405
00:16:33,583 --> 00:16:35,875
And what we have recovered
from the mesa is
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definitely not natural.
407
00:16:38,042 --> 00:16:40,708
ERIK:
So, so at this point, Matty,
we're looking at material
408
00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,708
that is out
of its geologic context.
409
00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:44,625
As you said, Brandon,
not natural.
410
00:16:44,792 --> 00:16:46,250
What the hell is it doing there?
411
00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:47,917
How did it get potentially
412
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hundreds of feet into,
into the mesa?
413
00:16:49,833 --> 00:16:51,667
It could be anything,
414
00:16:51,792 --> 00:16:54,167
from the mundane to the exotic.
415
00:16:54,333 --> 00:16:55,875
But here's the thing.
416
00:16:56,042 --> 00:16:58,833
Even if it turns out
to be mundane,
417
00:16:59,042 --> 00:17:02,000
it's still
a manufactured material.
418
00:17:02,208 --> 00:17:05,083
-In the mesa.
-TRAVIS: And it was
so far into the mesa
419
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that where we found it
suggested it was there
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by natural soil deposition,
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would have been
50 million years ago.
422
00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:15,292
-(chuckles)
-TRAVIS: Right?
And so that changes history
423
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one way or the other
'cause it means
424
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somebody put it
in there somehow.
425
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How did it get in there
426
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and why does our history record
not show that?
427
00:17:24,708 --> 00:17:27,667
Travis, you are as careful
as anyone I've ever met
428
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to be very judicious
429
00:17:29,583 --> 00:17:31,333
as far as what you say
'cause, you know,
430
00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:33,833
you want to be scientific
about it, and I respect that.
431
00:17:34,042 --> 00:17:35,500
But I want to ask you this, too.
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00:17:35,708 --> 00:17:38,542
Have you ever seen
a material act like that
433
00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:40,125
under any sort of microscope?
434
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I have not. And I've seen
many, uh, materials
435
00:17:43,375 --> 00:17:46,333
under an electron microscope
like that,
436
00:17:46,542 --> 00:17:50,417
and I haven't seen it do
that specific thing that we saw.
437
00:17:50,542 --> 00:17:53,042
Look at
that surface right there.
438
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-BRIAN: Zoomed in a little bit.
-ERIK: There we go.
439
00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:59,667
I can see some
clearly defined holes.
440
00:17:59,792 --> 00:18:00,708
Oh, yeah.
441
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,875
TRAVIS:
Are those holes getting bigger?
442
00:18:06,083 --> 00:18:08,667
-ERIK: Yes, I think so.
-What?
443
00:18:08,833 --> 00:18:11,750
-TRAVIS: It is, it's opening up.
-BRANDON: Yeah, yeah.
444
00:18:11,875 --> 00:18:13,458
TRAVIS:
Holy crap, look at that.
445
00:18:15,250 --> 00:18:17,083
Travis and I both are
familiar with the way
446
00:18:17,250 --> 00:18:20,792
materials like ceramics behave
under electron microscopy
447
00:18:20,917 --> 00:18:22,250
when we hit it with that beam.
448
00:18:22,417 --> 00:18:24,125
You know, we do see
certain kinds of changes.
449
00:18:24,208 --> 00:18:27,292
The changes we saw
with this material are not
450
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like the changes
I've seen in other materials.
451
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:31,000
That's what got my interest.
452
00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:32,542
-They're very unique.
-BRANDON: Yes.
453
00:18:32,708 --> 00:18:36,625
I think it's important to note
that we are doing this
454
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in coordination
with third-party experts,
455
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not only relative
to the analysis of the material
456
00:18:42,708 --> 00:18:45,958
but also the extraction
and the examination
457
00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:49,000
with our archaeologists
and our drilling experts.
458
00:18:49,208 --> 00:18:51,833
And they're all
scratching their heads.
459
00:18:52,042 --> 00:18:54,833
But with this,
we have something physical
460
00:18:55,042 --> 00:18:57,542
that we know for sure is
not natural.
461
00:18:57,750 --> 00:19:00,167
No matter what else happens
across the entire ranch,
462
00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:03,750
we have something
truly spectacular, a mystery
463
00:19:03,917 --> 00:19:07,500
that is waiting to be solved,
and it's inside the mesa.
464
00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:10,333
We know where it's at,
and now we've just got to
465
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figure out the best
and safest method to get it.
466
00:19:14,042 --> 00:19:15,833
So that's exciting for me.
467
00:19:15,917 --> 00:19:17,417
You know,
you have to think about
468
00:19:17,583 --> 00:19:19,333
this anomaly
that's inside the mesa.
469
00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:21,000
Did it come right off of that?
470
00:19:21,208 --> 00:19:22,750
Is this a piece
of that technology?
471
00:19:22,917 --> 00:19:25,000
All right. Well,
let me put it this way, Matty.
472
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Stay tuned.
473
00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:28,458
We will. And thank you,
gentlemen, so much
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for this unique opportunity.
It's just awesome.
475
00:19:30,833 --> 00:19:33,333
To take a step back
and to look at it overall,
476
00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:36,333
I think really helps the team,
and it certainly helps us fans
477
00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:38,625
understand what's happening,
so thank you so much.
478
00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:42,417
Well, where else can you go
on the planet and see UFOs,
479
00:19:42,583 --> 00:19:46,583
unexplained material extracted
from an unlikely place,
480
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and all of the equipment
malfunctions and, really,
481
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the verification that there is
some type of anomaly,
482
00:19:53,375 --> 00:19:58,042
whether it be a bubble, a dome,
something within this region
483
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where everything seems
to be converging.
484
00:20:00,875 --> 00:20:02,667
You've got to take note.
485
00:20:02,875 --> 00:20:05,417
And we have, and we will
continue to follow your journey.
486
00:20:05,542 --> 00:20:08,000
Thank you, gentlemen.
We'll do it again.
487
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THOMAS:
Looking forward to it.
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-Thank you.
-Thank you.
489
00:20:10,583 --> 00:20:12,500
Something tells me
that Season Six
490
00:20:12,625 --> 00:20:14,750
of The Secret of Skinwalker
Ranch is gonna be loaded
491
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with earth-shaking events
and this is just the beginning.
492
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Join me here next week,
493
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right here
at the command center,
494
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we'll do it all again.
495
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Until then, have a good night.
496
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