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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:25,745 --> 00:02:28,914 Everyone came out like, "This is really good." 2 00:02:28,915 --> 00:02:30,983 My name is Calvin Jung. 3 00:02:30,984 --> 00:02:32,719 I played Steve Minh in RoboCop. 4 00:02:35,922 --> 00:02:37,891 It just kinda struck me as being kinda funny. 5 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:41,427 Jesse Goins, I played Joe Cox. 6 00:02:45,231 --> 00:02:46,632 I like it! 7 00:02:46,633 --> 00:02:47,934 We had a lot of laughs. 8 00:02:49,636 --> 00:02:51,003 We joked around a lot. 9 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:52,284 Think you can outsmart a bullet? 10 00:02:53,072 --> 00:02:54,440 I'm Paul McCrane and I played Emil. 11 00:02:56,242 --> 00:02:58,477 Why don't you let us take over from here, Emil? 12 00:02:58,478 --> 00:03:00,179 I'm Ray Wise. 13 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:02,781 I play Leon Nash, number two bad guy on RoboCop. 14 00:03:02,782 --> 00:03:04,349 Yeah. 15 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:06,018 The original RoboCop. 16 00:03:06,019 --> 00:03:07,420 Well, give the man a hand. 17 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:09,455 Kurtwood Smith. 18 00:03:09,456 --> 00:03:10,923 Yeah! 19 00:03:10,924 --> 00:03:12,358 I'm the man in Old Detroit. 20 00:03:15,295 --> 00:03:17,296 And I played Clarence Boddicker. 21 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:21,334 Cops don't like me, so I don't like cops. 22 00:03:26,773 --> 00:03:28,473 When I heard the title, 23 00:03:28,474 --> 00:03:30,842 I thought this is gonna be terrible, horrible, ridiculous. 24 00:03:30,843 --> 00:03:32,144 And I read the script, 25 00:03:32,145 --> 00:03:33,425 and I thought it was really cool. 26 00:03:34,047 --> 00:03:36,949 I had played a number of sort of very sensitive 27 00:03:36,950 --> 00:03:38,618 or fragile characters in my young career. 28 00:03:39,018 --> 00:03:40,485 Hey, could... Could you sign my head? 29 00:03:40,486 --> 00:03:41,487 Yeah, sure. 30 00:03:42,121 --> 00:03:45,290 And I, around that time, told my reps 31 00:03:45,291 --> 00:03:47,192 that I wanted to go up for bad guys. 32 00:03:47,193 --> 00:03:48,673 And they thought I was out of my mind. 33 00:03:50,363 --> 00:03:53,665 And so, I just sort of started refusing auditions 34 00:03:53,666 --> 00:03:55,734 for the type of parts that I'd been doing, 35 00:03:55,735 --> 00:03:57,202 just 'cause I wanted to branch out, 36 00:03:57,203 --> 00:03:58,237 do something different. 37 00:03:58,238 --> 00:04:00,639 You're in the wrong business. 38 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,474 This is one of the things that they were able to get me 39 00:04:01,474 --> 00:04:02,474 in the room on. 40 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:06,144 I'd been in LA for about seven years 41 00:04:06,145 --> 00:04:07,146 and done some work. 42 00:04:08,481 --> 00:04:10,215 What was cool about the audition was 43 00:04:10,216 --> 00:04:12,217 Paul was great, and he said, "You know, just... 44 00:04:12,218 --> 00:04:13,585 Just give me what you got. 45 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:15,387 Just give me what you got", you know? 46 00:04:15,388 --> 00:04:17,089 And so... so we did. 47 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:18,690 I was brought in to audition. 48 00:04:18,691 --> 00:04:20,259 I met Paul Verhoeven, 49 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:22,694 and then as I got up and I was leaving, 50 00:04:22,695 --> 00:04:25,864 the casting lady ran out, she says, "Calvin, he loved you, 51 00:04:25,865 --> 00:04:29,234 but he thinks you're too pretty." 52 00:04:29,235 --> 00:04:31,436 Ancient Chinese secrets. 53 00:04:31,437 --> 00:04:34,840 I was like, "What the fuck? Too pretty?" 54 00:04:34,841 --> 00:04:37,576 I said, "No one's ever said I was too pretty." 55 00:04:37,577 --> 00:04:39,578 Unless you want your fuckin' head blown off. 56 00:04:39,579 --> 00:04:41,246 She says, "I'm pullin' for you." 57 00:04:41,247 --> 00:04:43,548 And then um, I think a day later I got the call. 58 00:04:43,549 --> 00:04:44,869 My agent, we got... I got the gig. 59 00:04:47,186 --> 00:04:49,421 How did I get involved? Well, let's see. 60 00:04:49,422 --> 00:04:51,591 Uh, how many years ago has it been? 61 00:04:54,394 --> 00:04:56,728 You try to interfere with another one of my properties, 62 00:04:56,729 --> 00:04:58,397 and they won't be able to put you guys back together 63 00:04:58,398 --> 00:04:59,398 with Krazy Glue. 64 00:05:00,533 --> 00:05:02,768 I went in and I read, originally for Murphy. 65 00:05:02,769 --> 00:05:04,070 Double wages for the lead men. 66 00:05:05,104 --> 00:05:07,406 I was all set to play Murphy. 67 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:09,441 I wanted to play Murphy. 68 00:05:09,442 --> 00:05:11,110 Nice shootin', son. What's your name? 69 00:05:11,811 --> 00:05:13,078 Murphy. 70 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:14,913 But, I got the dregs. 71 00:05:14,914 --> 00:05:16,882 I got the part of Leon Nash, 72 00:05:16,883 --> 00:05:19,419 which turned out to be not such a dreg after all. 73 00:05:22,121 --> 00:05:24,756 I was still kickin' around uh, playin' uh, mostly bad guys 74 00:05:24,757 --> 00:05:26,124 on television. 75 00:05:26,125 --> 00:05:28,060 He's calling up information on the A-team. 76 00:05:28,061 --> 00:05:30,762 Bad cops, or bad administrators. 77 00:05:30,763 --> 00:05:32,664 I'm Clarence. 78 00:05:32,665 --> 00:05:33,765 Had a really nice role finally in a feature 79 00:05:33,766 --> 00:05:35,067 called "Flashpoint". 80 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:37,069 Think about it, whiz kid. 81 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:39,604 Turned out that one of the producers of RoboCop, 82 00:05:39,605 --> 00:05:43,075 Arne Schmidt, had been the first AD on that film. 83 00:05:43,076 --> 00:05:45,077 Arne uh, was the one who would actually say, 84 00:05:45,078 --> 00:05:46,178 "Yeah, see this guy." 85 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:48,113 Well, you heard the man, hotshot. 86 00:05:48,114 --> 00:05:49,948 They asked me to audition for two roles. 87 00:05:49,949 --> 00:05:52,417 Clarence, and Dick Jones. 88 00:05:52,418 --> 00:05:54,286 Based on things I'd done in the past, 89 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:56,922 I assumed they were more serious about the Dick Jones role. 90 00:05:56,923 --> 00:06:00,092 I work for Dick Jones! Dick Jones! 91 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:02,294 But Clarence, of course, was the more fun part. 92 00:06:02,295 --> 00:06:04,663 So, I was really excited when I was Clarence. 93 00:06:04,664 --> 00:06:06,832 We're all theater-trained actors. 94 00:06:06,833 --> 00:06:07,966 Theater-trained actors understand 95 00:06:07,967 --> 00:06:09,768 what ensemble work is, 96 00:06:09,769 --> 00:06:11,336 whereas people who wanna be movie stars, 97 00:06:11,337 --> 00:06:12,938 they really don't get that. 98 00:06:12,939 --> 00:06:14,940 So, that was really easy for all of us. 99 00:06:14,941 --> 00:06:16,675 Because Jon Davison wanted to make sure 100 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:19,177 we were kinda multicultural, the gang became, you know, 101 00:06:19,178 --> 00:06:21,380 every color under the rainbow. 102 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:24,149 I think the diversity of our cast, 103 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:26,985 that transcends into the acting, 104 00:06:26,986 --> 00:06:28,788 leaves a memory for people. 105 00:06:31,290 --> 00:06:34,226 Erica Phillips, she was the uh, costume designer, 106 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:36,328 and she wanted to know what I wanted to do, 107 00:06:36,329 --> 00:06:39,664 and it ended up that she and I just went shopping. 108 00:06:39,665 --> 00:06:41,800 I think she took into account the way I looked. 109 00:06:41,801 --> 00:06:43,668 I kinda had kinda the widow's peak look, 110 00:06:43,669 --> 00:06:47,906 and the hawk nose, and um, aquiline, I like to say. 111 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:49,975 And uh, she saw that look, 112 00:06:49,976 --> 00:06:54,179 and she felt that I would look the best in black. 113 00:06:54,180 --> 00:06:56,148 I had a very clear idea in my mind about 114 00:06:56,149 --> 00:06:57,682 what they were like. 115 00:06:57,683 --> 00:07:00,385 That they did have a kind of military look to them, 116 00:07:00,386 --> 00:07:02,687 but with a scarf, you know? 117 00:07:02,688 --> 00:07:05,390 We added things to it, you know, like the sneakers, 118 00:07:05,391 --> 00:07:06,925 you know, rather than boots. 119 00:07:06,926 --> 00:07:08,560 So, we all had some input. 120 00:07:08,561 --> 00:07:11,763 The sort of weird beard thing that I did was uh... 121 00:07:11,764 --> 00:07:13,365 I'll take credit for it, that was mine. 122 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:16,535 I knew I wanted to do something a little odd hairwise. 123 00:07:16,536 --> 00:07:18,236 So, I walked onto the set with it 124 00:07:18,237 --> 00:07:19,905 and showed it to Paul, and he said, "Yeah, I like that, 125 00:07:19,906 --> 00:07:21,940 so keep it", so I did. 126 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:23,508 My ex-wife, when we were dating, 127 00:07:23,509 --> 00:07:25,377 she says, "You weren't in RoboCop!" 128 00:07:25,378 --> 00:07:26,945 I go, "Yeah, I was the guy with the bandan..." 129 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:28,713 "No, that was a Mexican guy!" 130 00:07:28,714 --> 00:07:30,248 I go, "No, it's me." 131 00:07:30,249 --> 00:07:32,518 This is the all, the all-seeing eye. 132 00:07:34,954 --> 00:07:37,022 Leon's glass eye. 133 00:07:37,023 --> 00:07:39,958 My medallion that I wore all through the movie. 134 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:42,595 So, quite a bit of action. A little shrapnel. 135 00:07:44,263 --> 00:07:46,866 But as you can see, still looks pretty good. 136 00:07:48,734 --> 00:07:49,734 Shit! 137 00:07:50,603 --> 00:07:52,204 I loved it. 138 00:07:52,205 --> 00:07:53,738 We were in the truck and Kurtwood looks at the money, 139 00:07:53,739 --> 00:07:56,441 he says, "You burned the motherfuckin' money!" 140 00:07:56,442 --> 00:07:58,276 You burned the fuckin' money! 141 00:07:58,277 --> 00:08:00,378 I had to blow the door! What do you want? 142 00:08:00,379 --> 00:08:02,113 It's as good as marked, you asshole! 143 00:08:02,114 --> 00:08:03,281 You stupid, stupid... 144 00:08:03,282 --> 00:08:04,749 Now, that's not the way 145 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:06,918 that a normal military leader might behave 146 00:08:06,919 --> 00:08:08,720 in that kind of a situation. 147 00:08:08,721 --> 00:08:10,255 And that's 'cause he's k... Kind of loaded all the time, 148 00:08:10,256 --> 00:08:11,256 you know? 149 00:08:11,757 --> 00:08:15,260 Clarence, he's the kind of guy who could run Old Detroit, 150 00:08:15,261 --> 00:08:17,128 but could never run Detroit. 151 00:08:17,129 --> 00:08:18,497 He didn't go that far. 152 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:21,767 But within his world, he was the man. 153 00:08:22,301 --> 00:08:24,436 Clarence Boddicker, unofficial crime boss 154 00:08:24,437 --> 00:08:26,004 of Old Detroit, 155 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:27,572 now sought in connection with the deaths 156 00:08:27,573 --> 00:08:29,441 of 31 police officers. 157 00:08:29,442 --> 00:08:30,610 Today, he's at large. 158 00:08:31,444 --> 00:08:34,579 So, we were all on location, in downtown Dallas, 159 00:08:34,580 --> 00:08:36,815 and in the van when we were first shooting it... 160 00:08:36,816 --> 00:08:38,416 We got a cop on our tail! 161 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:41,119 I wanted to play it kinda full go, 162 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,756 including kicking the back of Paul McCrane's seat. 163 00:08:44,757 --> 00:08:46,459 And do it! Just do it! 164 00:08:47,860 --> 00:08:49,494 Paul didn't particularly enjoy that part. 165 00:08:49,495 --> 00:08:51,530 Oh, for God's sake. 166 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:53,765 We were like little kids playin' in the sandbox. 167 00:08:53,766 --> 00:08:54,766 Yeah! 168 00:08:56,302 --> 00:08:59,437 I did some things in RoboCop that now that I think about it 169 00:08:59,438 --> 00:09:01,006 uh, it was crazy. 170 00:09:01,007 --> 00:09:02,007 Why did I ever do them? 171 00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:06,111 Hangin' out of the back of the van, 172 00:09:06,112 --> 00:09:08,313 with no really safety lines on us. 173 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:10,448 You know, if I had slipped and fallen out of the back, 174 00:09:10,449 --> 00:09:12,784 I would've been run over by the police car. 175 00:09:12,785 --> 00:09:16,521 Ed and I worked on scenes pretty much on the set. 176 00:09:16,522 --> 00:09:19,658 You know, he was always looking for kind of hipper ways 177 00:09:19,659 --> 00:09:21,192 to say things. 178 00:09:21,193 --> 00:09:23,061 When it came time to throw the guy out... 179 00:09:23,062 --> 00:09:25,330 Leon, pick him up. 180 00:09:25,331 --> 00:09:28,033 I thought, "I just throw the guy out, you know? 181 00:09:28,034 --> 00:09:30,135 I should say something to him, you know?" 182 00:09:30,136 --> 00:09:31,403 This guy burned the money. 183 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:35,307 This guy screwed this whole thing up. 184 00:09:35,308 --> 00:09:38,476 And so, I wanna say something nasty. 185 00:09:38,477 --> 00:09:40,045 I thought, "Well, you know, I'm gonna throw him out. 186 00:09:40,046 --> 00:09:40,980 Let's see if he flies." 187 00:09:40,981 --> 00:09:42,480 Can you fly, Bobby? 188 00:09:42,481 --> 00:09:43,481 Clarence, no! 189 00:09:43,983 --> 00:09:46,519 Can you fly, Bobby? 190 00:09:50,856 --> 00:09:52,657 The part wherever they throw the guy 191 00:09:52,658 --> 00:09:55,327 out of the back of the truck on to the car, 192 00:09:55,328 --> 00:09:56,728 and the car spins around, 193 00:09:56,729 --> 00:09:58,663 whenever they threw him out of the car, 194 00:09:58,664 --> 00:10:00,365 that was in Dallas. 195 00:10:00,366 --> 00:10:03,902 When he landed on the car, that was me here in LA. 196 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:05,403 If you look real close, 197 00:10:05,404 --> 00:10:06,504 you can see that it's me on the hood of the car, 198 00:10:06,505 --> 00:10:07,506 spinnin' around. 199 00:10:18,050 --> 00:10:19,784 I certainly know 200 00:10:19,785 --> 00:10:22,087 from my father being a police officer 201 00:10:22,088 --> 00:10:25,724 that your partner is someone that you're as close to 202 00:10:25,725 --> 00:10:26,892 as your wife. 203 00:10:28,227 --> 00:10:29,227 Well, you call it. 204 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:32,030 Let's do it. 205 00:10:32,031 --> 00:10:33,598 It's a very intimate relationship. 206 00:10:33,599 --> 00:10:34,966 There's a really strong bond, 207 00:10:34,967 --> 00:10:36,636 you rely on one another for your life. 208 00:10:38,537 --> 00:10:41,539 It was an old steel mill in uh, Monessen, Pennsylvania. 209 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:44,609 This was out of work already since years. 210 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:46,945 But you had the feeling, the workers, 211 00:10:46,946 --> 00:10:48,981 they'd just left yesterday night. 212 00:10:50,149 --> 00:10:51,616 Pittsburgh's my home town. 213 00:10:51,617 --> 00:10:53,551 So, my parents could see me work. 214 00:10:53,552 --> 00:10:55,420 They came out to the set, and they watched me. 215 00:10:55,421 --> 00:10:56,421 Of course, they... 216 00:10:56,555 --> 00:10:59,424 My mom got to see me do the pissing scene. 217 00:10:59,425 --> 00:11:01,159 So, I'm like, "Oh, this is great." 218 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,929 My mom was right over there. And this is really artistic. 219 00:11:04,930 --> 00:11:06,631 "Yeah, I'm makin' money, mom. 220 00:11:06,632 --> 00:11:08,100 This is what I went to college for." 221 00:11:08,634 --> 00:11:12,771 Mind if I zip this up? 222 00:11:12,772 --> 00:11:15,573 I love the bad boys. I love them! 223 00:11:15,574 --> 00:11:18,910 You know, they were collectively, I'll just say, 224 00:11:18,911 --> 00:11:22,013 the nicest, really sweet, wonderful guys. 225 00:11:22,014 --> 00:11:23,348 Didn't drink, didn't smoke. 226 00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:24,749 No. 227 00:11:24,750 --> 00:11:26,151 You know, those things will kill you. 228 00:11:26,152 --> 00:11:28,153 And to see them be so mean, and rotten, 229 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:29,688 and horrible on the movie, 230 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:31,489 it just kinda tells you how good they all are. 231 00:11:34,226 --> 00:11:36,928 We would steal the golf carts from the ADs, you know, 232 00:11:36,929 --> 00:11:39,197 because they had to drive around those things all the time, 233 00:11:39,198 --> 00:11:40,498 come and get us. 234 00:11:40,499 --> 00:11:42,100 Then we would have our own little races around 235 00:11:42,101 --> 00:11:43,601 and stuff. 236 00:11:43,602 --> 00:11:45,003 It was... we had... We had a lot of fun there. 237 00:11:45,004 --> 00:11:46,764 I liked all the guys that I was working with. 238 00:11:48,507 --> 00:11:50,508 You know, I think Peter attacks things with a gusto 239 00:11:50,509 --> 00:11:52,944 and with an intensity. 240 00:11:52,945 --> 00:11:54,846 And that was impressive to watch. 241 00:11:54,847 --> 00:11:56,881 Go ahead and do it. 242 00:11:56,882 --> 00:12:00,218 Murphy thinks, he believes, he's a faith holder. 243 00:12:00,219 --> 00:12:01,886 He's like a positivist, you know? 244 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:04,623 He's like the guy you want as the cop. 245 00:12:05,858 --> 00:12:07,793 Dead or alive, you're coming with me. 246 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:15,033 The experience creating it was just, I think, 247 00:12:15,034 --> 00:12:18,803 a really grueling experience for everybody. 248 00:12:18,804 --> 00:12:21,506 I mean, I don't think anybody would tell you 249 00:12:21,507 --> 00:12:23,309 they had a good time on that picture. 250 00:12:23,976 --> 00:12:26,178 And if they did, they weren't there. 251 00:12:29,815 --> 00:12:33,318 Every Sunday, Bill Bernstein from Orion Pictures 252 00:12:33,319 --> 00:12:37,589 would fly down and say, "You've gotta stop the bleeding. 253 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:39,324 You're spending too much money. 254 00:12:39,325 --> 00:12:42,327 You just gotta stop the bleeding", you know? 255 00:12:42,328 --> 00:12:44,829 So, finally, I just stopped the bleeding. 256 00:12:44,830 --> 00:12:46,831 I shut down the picture, 257 00:12:46,832 --> 00:12:49,734 without shooting the most crucial scene 258 00:12:49,735 --> 00:12:52,403 in the picture, the death of Murphy, 259 00:12:52,404 --> 00:12:54,205 and we all went back to Los Angeles, 260 00:12:54,206 --> 00:12:56,508 'cause I knew that eventually they were gonna have to 261 00:12:56,509 --> 00:13:00,011 give me the money to shoot the death of Murphy. 262 00:13:00,012 --> 00:13:01,547 Lewis, I got a situation here, girl. 263 00:13:03,349 --> 00:13:06,918 We shot that scene of uh, the destruction of Murphy 264 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:09,587 in a warehouse, in Long Beach California. 265 00:13:09,588 --> 00:13:12,056 Put your hands on your head. Lewis? 266 00:13:12,057 --> 00:13:14,425 I remember we were all there with our guns, 267 00:13:14,426 --> 00:13:17,363 and I had my favorite sawed-off shot gun. 268 00:13:18,264 --> 00:13:20,299 Why don't you let us take over from here, Emil? 269 00:13:25,437 --> 00:13:26,871 The torture murder uh, 270 00:13:26,872 --> 00:13:28,941 we spent a long time choreographing that. 271 00:13:30,943 --> 00:13:32,410 Your ass is mine. 272 00:13:32,411 --> 00:13:34,212 No. 273 00:13:34,213 --> 00:13:35,280 Paul executed what we had on the page. 274 00:13:35,281 --> 00:13:36,915 Not yet, it ain't. 275 00:13:36,916 --> 00:13:39,250 Murphy gets killed after 50 minutes 276 00:13:39,251 --> 00:13:40,585 or something like that. 277 00:13:40,586 --> 00:13:43,655 I thought that this... This execution of Murphy 278 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:46,758 had to be extremely powerful, 279 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:49,460 So that people would never forget Murphy, you know? 280 00:13:49,461 --> 00:13:51,896 Because you have seen him only 50 minutes, 281 00:13:51,897 --> 00:13:53,464 and then basically he wears a mask, you know? 282 00:13:53,465 --> 00:13:56,669 So, that's difficult for an audience. 283 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,506 So, you've got a guy. 284 00:14:01,507 --> 00:14:04,142 And the guy is a good cop, and Mr. Nice Guy, 285 00:14:04,143 --> 00:14:07,245 and signs into the new precinct. 286 00:14:07,246 --> 00:14:09,414 Murphy, transferring in from Metro South. 287 00:14:09,415 --> 00:14:11,850 And immediately gets wind of the politics 288 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,418 that are coming down, you know, 289 00:14:13,419 --> 00:14:15,920 or the privatization of the police force. 290 00:14:15,921 --> 00:14:18,022 He came from a part of Detroit, you know? 291 00:14:18,023 --> 00:14:19,591 That didn't have a lot of action 292 00:14:19,592 --> 00:14:21,826 and he was thrown into Old Detroit purposely, 293 00:14:21,827 --> 00:14:23,094 you know? 294 00:14:23,095 --> 00:14:25,029 We work for a living down here, Murphy. 295 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:26,865 Get your armor and suit up. 296 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:28,333 He was set up by OCP to go into a place 297 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:30,535 that had a lot of action and a lot of violence. 298 00:14:30,536 --> 00:14:32,503 And subsequently, that's why OCP chose him 299 00:14:32,504 --> 00:14:35,206 to be this guinea pig for RoboCop. 300 00:14:35,207 --> 00:14:37,175 We've restructured the police department 301 00:14:37,176 --> 00:14:39,611 and placed prime candidates according to risk factor. 302 00:14:39,612 --> 00:14:41,179 And he's an innocent. 303 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:43,349 But nope, the bigger plan has got him. 304 00:14:47,386 --> 00:14:50,455 With 12 years on the force, and 21 commendations, 305 00:14:50,456 --> 00:14:52,056 Murphy was a good cop. 306 00:14:52,057 --> 00:14:55,327 And in 1991, a good cop doesn't die. 307 00:14:58,330 --> 00:15:00,331 I maintain you have to have the cruelty, 308 00:15:00,332 --> 00:15:03,034 and the brutality of that... That scene of Murphy, 309 00:15:03,035 --> 00:15:04,903 in order to, later on in the film, 310 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:09,140 endow Robo with his um, redemption. 311 00:15:09,141 --> 00:15:11,242 You can't have it unless you really, really 312 00:15:11,243 --> 00:15:14,313 have been upset by what's happened to Murphy. 313 00:15:17,149 --> 00:15:18,650 And not just violently so, but emotionally so. 314 00:15:18,651 --> 00:15:20,051 Where's your partner? Where's your partner? 315 00:15:20,052 --> 00:15:22,320 Well, guys, the other one was upstairs. 316 00:15:22,321 --> 00:15:24,255 I was really tryin' to... Tryin' to figure out 317 00:15:24,256 --> 00:15:26,324 what I could do that would be different. 318 00:15:26,325 --> 00:15:28,660 Jesse came up with that laugh he uses. 319 00:15:28,661 --> 00:15:32,830 She was sweet. Mm, mm, mm. 320 00:15:32,831 --> 00:15:33,831 I took her out. 321 00:15:36,402 --> 00:15:37,936 And the laugh just came. 322 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:40,672 I said, "This guy is a real sadistic bastard. 323 00:15:40,673 --> 00:15:42,708 He's a real sadistic, but he enjoys it. 324 00:15:46,712 --> 00:15:48,513 So, why make him all dark and sadistic, 325 00:15:48,514 --> 00:15:49,848 just make him, you know? 326 00:15:52,017 --> 00:15:53,851 In your face kinda sadistic. 327 00:15:53,852 --> 00:15:55,454 They'll laugh at you, like he's a joker. 328 00:15:57,456 --> 00:15:58,457 Wooh! 329 00:15:59,892 --> 00:16:01,059 You know, I thought that was great, 330 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:02,560 you know? 331 00:16:02,561 --> 00:16:03,962 And... and then as actors, ensemble, you're like, 332 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:05,763 "Shit, man! Wish I'd thought of that." 333 00:16:05,764 --> 00:16:07,231 Mark. 334 00:16:07,232 --> 00:16:08,232 Action. 335 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,237 Boy, I'll bet that really pisses you off. 336 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:14,973 So, I had breakfast with Paul 337 00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:15,974 and we talked about the movie a lot. 338 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:17,642 We talked about Clarence um, 339 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:19,377 and I told him what I wanted to do with it, 340 00:16:19,378 --> 00:16:21,378 and it really seemed that we were on the same page. 341 00:16:22,047 --> 00:16:25,984 You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do you? 342 00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:27,319 Buddy, I think you're slime. 343 00:16:30,089 --> 00:16:32,991 Clarence was not as funny in the original script 344 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,493 and that was something that I wanted to add. 345 00:16:35,494 --> 00:16:38,596 If we can give this character a dark sense of humor, 346 00:16:38,597 --> 00:16:40,565 it can work in a variety of ways. 347 00:16:40,566 --> 00:16:45,136 One is funny, and two is that when, you know, 348 00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:50,508 something chilling about really sadistic sort of people 349 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:53,411 and the kind of sense of humor that they might have. 350 00:16:53,412 --> 00:16:56,014 You see, I got this problem. 351 00:16:56,015 --> 00:17:01,319 Cops don't like me, so I don't much like cops. 352 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,254 I loved Clarence's thing with the little gun. 353 00:17:03,255 --> 00:17:04,255 I don't... 354 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:14,866 We're like, dude. 355 00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:17,970 That's great! 356 00:17:26,845 --> 00:17:27,845 Action. 357 00:17:34,153 --> 00:17:35,320 A violent film like that. 358 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:40,958 A guy blows off a guy's hand and he goes... 359 00:17:40,959 --> 00:17:42,627 Well, give the man a hand! 360 00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:43,628 Give him a hand. 361 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:46,197 He's all yours. 362 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:48,733 I think it's vintage Paul Verhoeven. 363 00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:50,001 Go forward up. 364 00:17:50,002 --> 00:17:51,082 Alright, alright, look out. 365 00:17:54,206 --> 00:17:55,640 Cut. 366 00:17:55,641 --> 00:17:58,743 Paul grew up in World War II, you know, 367 00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:01,246 where he saw real violence every day. 368 00:18:03,682 --> 00:18:06,517 During World War II, when he was living in Hague, 369 00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:09,987 there were bomb runs by British bombers all the time. 370 00:18:09,988 --> 00:18:12,156 This was when the Nazis were occupying Hague. 371 00:18:12,157 --> 00:18:14,025 So, he grew up under a fascist rule. 372 00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:16,527 And he's a young boy, he remembers this quite vividly. 373 00:18:16,528 --> 00:18:19,564 And he told me about one day his dad taking him to school, 374 00:18:19,565 --> 00:18:20,898 and the night before, 375 00:18:20,899 --> 00:18:22,533 a British bomber had been shot down, 376 00:18:22,534 --> 00:18:23,768 and there were body parts 377 00:18:23,769 --> 00:18:25,770 all lying in the street everywhere, 378 00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:29,240 and German soldiers were going around with steel pales, 379 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:31,109 and just throwing body parts out. 380 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,044 And Paul's father said, "Don't look." 381 00:18:33,045 --> 00:18:37,014 And Paul, being six, seven, had no sense of perspective. 382 00:18:37,015 --> 00:18:38,916 He was taking cues from the adults. 383 00:18:38,917 --> 00:18:40,351 But the people around him were acting 384 00:18:40,352 --> 00:18:42,220 like they were just cleaning the streets up. 385 00:18:42,221 --> 00:18:43,521 And Paul said to me, 386 00:18:43,522 --> 00:18:44,922 "The thought went through my mind, 387 00:18:44,923 --> 00:18:46,257 'Oh, that's what people look like! 388 00:18:46,258 --> 00:18:47,692 Oh, look at that. 389 00:18:47,693 --> 00:18:48,893 That's what a severed hand looks like.'" 390 00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:50,628 So, it was this certain detachment, 391 00:18:50,629 --> 00:18:53,264 because there was no emotional connection, right? 392 00:18:53,265 --> 00:18:54,299 'Cause you're too young. 393 00:18:55,367 --> 00:18:58,102 I think that it shaped his worldview. 394 00:18:58,103 --> 00:19:00,071 I shot the... the... The killing of Murphy 395 00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:02,206 in the mi... most gruesome way. 396 00:19:02,207 --> 00:19:04,309 Man. Pretty boy! Hey, come on here. 397 00:19:08,247 --> 00:19:10,247 And... and for me, that was really the crucifixion. 398 00:19:17,789 --> 00:19:20,124 I think Paul was tryin' to make a point with it 399 00:19:20,125 --> 00:19:22,260 about violence becoming entertainment. 400 00:19:22,261 --> 00:19:26,264 It wasn't just meant to be a splasher, slasher movie 401 00:19:26,265 --> 00:19:27,632 in any sense. 402 00:19:27,633 --> 00:19:28,833 I think he exaggerated the violence 403 00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:31,135 in order to make a point about violence, 404 00:19:31,136 --> 00:19:33,437 and our being endured to violence 405 00:19:33,438 --> 00:19:35,239 in popular entertainment. 406 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,341 Bein' part of a gang, and bein' a bad ass, 407 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:39,143 I mean, you know, h... h... How many kids wanna play that? 408 00:19:39,144 --> 00:19:40,478 It's pretty easy. 409 00:19:40,479 --> 00:19:43,147 We were enjoying blowin' at just, 410 00:19:43,148 --> 00:19:45,116 "Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam." 411 00:19:45,117 --> 00:19:46,117 It was great. 412 00:19:50,956 --> 00:19:53,024 When I ran out of... out of ammo, I'm like, "Oh, shit, 413 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,025 I'm out of ammo!" 414 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:56,160 Oh, shit, I'm out of ammo! 415 00:19:56,161 --> 00:19:57,695 That's not in the script. 416 00:19:57,696 --> 00:19:59,431 Hey, Clarence, he's still alive. 417 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:03,367 You know, we had to keep doing it, 418 00:20:03,368 --> 00:20:05,203 and there was just blood all over the place 419 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:07,004 all the time. 420 00:20:07,005 --> 00:20:08,439 Yeah, what's that? 421 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,507 - Yeah. - Yeah. 422 00:20:09,508 --> 00:20:10,508 Okay, fight! 423 00:20:16,114 --> 00:20:18,450 After a while, it just was kind of sickening, you know? 424 00:20:22,287 --> 00:20:23,321 Cut! 425 00:20:23,322 --> 00:20:25,323 That wasn't so hard to shoot. 426 00:20:25,324 --> 00:20:26,524 I have to tell you, 427 00:20:26,525 --> 00:20:28,292 I've been shot with squibs before. 428 00:20:28,293 --> 00:20:29,293 Blood! 429 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:36,834 Now, there's no squibs anymore, thank God, 430 00:20:36,835 --> 00:20:38,569 'cause they're just a pain. 431 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:40,671 They're a pain to put on, they're also really dangerous. 432 00:20:40,672 --> 00:20:43,874 I've had my eye burned, my cheeks burned, back burned, 433 00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:44,843 everything burned, man. 434 00:20:44,844 --> 00:20:46,143 They go sideways. 435 00:20:46,144 --> 00:20:47,845 Real violence, the minute I see it, 436 00:20:47,846 --> 00:20:49,313 I'm horrified. 437 00:20:49,314 --> 00:20:51,983 Screen violence, I really like, and I... 438 00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:54,018 And it's not real violence. It's beautiful. 439 00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:55,019 And action! 440 00:20:56,154 --> 00:20:57,588 And so, one of the things that happened, 441 00:20:57,589 --> 00:20:59,991 that was interesting, was that I met Paul. 442 00:20:59,992 --> 00:21:01,559 And Paul and I we're like, you know, 443 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,893 it's like you meet that girl 444 00:21:02,894 --> 00:21:04,294 who likes the same ice cream you do. 445 00:21:05,397 --> 00:21:06,831 That was just like, "Oh!" 446 00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:08,032 And we would say things like that, 447 00:21:08,033 --> 00:21:09,400 "Well, I think violence is beautiful." 448 00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:10,668 And he would go, "Yeah, it is, it is. 449 00:21:10,669 --> 00:21:11,902 Yeah." 450 00:21:11,903 --> 00:21:13,404 The hardest thing was the prosthetic 451 00:21:13,405 --> 00:21:14,705 of the arm going off. 452 00:21:14,706 --> 00:21:15,706 Three! 453 00:21:20,679 --> 00:21:24,282 There was a certain amount of um, uncomfortability. 454 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:26,517 But then after a while it got to be so ridiculous 455 00:21:26,518 --> 00:21:28,753 with all the... all the... All the shooting 456 00:21:28,754 --> 00:21:30,454 that it did become humorous to us. 457 00:21:30,455 --> 00:21:32,590 Oh, shit, I'm out of ammo! 458 00:21:32,591 --> 00:21:33,859 Nice shot. 459 00:21:34,693 --> 00:21:35,694 He wouldn't die! 460 00:21:37,195 --> 00:21:39,864 And so, the laughs were more real, I suppose. 461 00:21:39,865 --> 00:21:42,066 Uh, the dialogue is fantastic, I think. 462 00:21:42,067 --> 00:21:44,403 "Does it hurt? Does it hurt?" 463 00:21:45,871 --> 00:21:47,639 Does it hurt? Does it hurt? 464 00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:50,441 All of that was improvised, you know? 465 00:21:50,442 --> 00:21:52,076 "Good night, sweet prince." 466 00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:53,578 Good night, sweet prince. 467 00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:56,948 That's all improvised. 468 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:01,419 The puppet, that was a very big deal. 469 00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:02,453 That was another one. 470 00:22:02,454 --> 00:22:04,388 "Oh, by the way, we need a set 471 00:22:04,389 --> 00:22:07,091 that's got about four feet underneath it, 472 00:22:07,092 --> 00:22:09,560 so we can get our puppeteers in there 473 00:22:09,561 --> 00:22:11,896 to operate this puppet of Peter Weller." 474 00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:14,065 Rob Bottin had built this 475 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:16,734 incredibly lifelike version of Peter Weller. 476 00:22:16,735 --> 00:22:19,303 It was shocking how detailed it was. 477 00:22:19,304 --> 00:22:21,939 You could see like every pore in his skin. 478 00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:23,507 Rob was there for that 479 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:26,510 and Rob was directing the sequence, practically, 480 00:22:26,511 --> 00:22:28,579 because it has to be shot this way 481 00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:31,683 with the gun that's connected to the fake head. 482 00:22:33,318 --> 00:22:35,086 It's got like an eccentric motor, 483 00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:37,321 like a car polisher in it, so the thing is shaking, 484 00:22:37,322 --> 00:22:38,957 and it's... it's just incredible. 485 00:22:39,658 --> 00:22:41,093 Okay, fun's over. 486 00:22:46,965 --> 00:22:48,166 Okay, let's get out of here. 487 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,868 On one take, I said, "Hey, Jesse, you know what? 488 00:22:50,869 --> 00:22:52,389 You know, fuck it. Let's moonwalk out." 489 00:22:55,273 --> 00:22:56,607 And then you see we did a little moonwalk 490 00:22:56,608 --> 00:22:57,608 as were leaving, right? 491 00:22:58,944 --> 00:23:01,212 And then there's that pile of coke, right? 492 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:02,480 So, we moonwalked out, I saw the coke. 493 00:23:02,481 --> 00:23:03,848 Boom! 494 00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:05,182 I popped my head in the coke, came up, 495 00:23:05,183 --> 00:23:06,118 you have all this coke on your face. 496 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,685 Jesse would do that. 497 00:23:07,686 --> 00:23:09,453 And we moonwalked out, and then we came up, we said, 498 00:23:09,454 --> 00:23:11,021 "Paul?" 499 00:23:11,022 --> 00:23:12,189 He was like, "Oh, no, that's okay! That's okay!" 500 00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:13,859 He didn't care what you did. 501 00:23:16,795 --> 00:23:21,031 You know, obviously it was devastating for Anne 502 00:23:21,032 --> 00:23:23,467 to not get there when she knew 503 00:23:23,468 --> 00:23:25,002 and she could hear that something was happening, 504 00:23:25,003 --> 00:23:26,504 she couldn't get through, 505 00:23:26,505 --> 00:23:27,973 and say, "This is very traumatic." 506 00:23:29,174 --> 00:23:30,842 Murphy. 507 00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:35,913 Just thought, "Hey, this is great." 508 00:23:35,914 --> 00:23:37,214 You know, we're kind of goin' over 509 00:23:37,215 --> 00:23:39,083 to type with these guys, these killers. 510 00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:41,352 They shot that guy, what, 500 times? 511 00:23:41,353 --> 00:23:43,254 That there was anything left to put together is... 512 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:44,755 Is a miracle. 513 00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:47,091 It's so crazy bloody and seeming. 514 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:48,826 It wasn't violent, but it was real bloody. 515 00:23:48,827 --> 00:23:50,661 And I thought, "Oh, we're really in for it now, 516 00:23:50,662 --> 00:23:51,662 you know, with this." 517 00:23:53,231 --> 00:23:55,166 Got a pressure of 60 palp. 518 00:23:55,167 --> 00:23:56,734 Alright, we have to intubate this guy. 519 00:23:56,735 --> 00:23:57,835 His pressure's dropping. 520 00:23:57,836 --> 00:23:59,737 Okay. 521 00:23:59,738 --> 00:24:00,738 He's a good guy, he's a happy guy, 522 00:24:00,739 --> 00:24:02,339 he's an upbeat guy, man. 523 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:03,908 He ain't no downbeat, cynical policeman. 524 00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:05,229 Let's prep him for a central line. 525 00:24:07,078 --> 00:24:08,747 He's got a family, he's got a life. 526 00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:12,883 When I look at the movie, 527 00:24:12,884 --> 00:24:15,619 I think that's what gives him his humanity. 528 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:18,222 Is that he had this wife, and this child, 529 00:24:18,223 --> 00:24:20,524 and a woman who loved him, 530 00:24:20,525 --> 00:24:22,927 and she doesn't know what happens to him. 531 00:24:22,928 --> 00:24:25,029 She thinks he's murdered, 532 00:24:25,030 --> 00:24:27,466 and he's killed in the line of duty. 533 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:29,767 He's a public servant, that's what he is, 534 00:24:29,768 --> 00:24:31,235 that's what he wants to do. 535 00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:33,537 And he likes doing his job. Bang! 536 00:24:33,538 --> 00:24:35,306 He gets thrown into this den of vipers, 537 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,875 and uh, it's over for him. 538 00:24:41,613 --> 00:24:43,380 Alright, I think that's all we can do. 539 00:24:43,381 --> 00:24:44,381 Let's call it. 540 00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:46,650 I think it's one of the most brave 541 00:24:46,651 --> 00:24:50,321 and amazing uses of black screen in the history of movie making. 542 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:53,290 Most filmmakers will never let the screen go black 543 00:24:53,291 --> 00:24:56,560 for eight seconds, because that's deadly. 544 00:24:56,561 --> 00:24:58,930 But he was makin' the point of he's dead. 545 00:25:02,901 --> 00:25:04,602 He dies, 546 00:25:04,603 --> 00:25:06,837 and then slowly basically he comes back to life again. 547 00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:08,340 It's a certain kind of life. 548 00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:12,843 This different idea of shooting from this point of view, 549 00:25:12,844 --> 00:25:14,912 which is now used in video games, 550 00:25:14,913 --> 00:25:16,981 and every... You see it all the time now, 551 00:25:16,982 --> 00:25:18,849 but then it was very unusual. 552 00:25:18,850 --> 00:25:20,417 Can he understand what I'm saying? 553 00:25:20,418 --> 00:25:23,153 The executive saying he signed a release form, 554 00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:24,622 we can pretty much do anything we want. 555 00:25:24,623 --> 00:25:26,357 He's legally dead. 556 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,192 We can do pretty much what we want to. 557 00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:29,493 And then his partner saying... 558 00:25:29,494 --> 00:25:30,995 Doesn't matter. 559 00:25:30,996 --> 00:25:32,596 We're gonna blank his memory anyway. 560 00:25:32,597 --> 00:25:34,131 There's a lot to do with ownership of the self, 561 00:25:34,132 --> 00:25:37,434 obviously, and an audience is justifiably outraged 562 00:25:37,435 --> 00:25:40,204 when they hear someone else say, "Give him the amnesia." 563 00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:41,872 Not only has he been brutally killed, 564 00:25:41,873 --> 00:25:44,008 but now he's a corporate product. 565 00:25:44,009 --> 00:25:45,876 And he's owned by somebody. 566 00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:49,446 That was a very barbed criticism of capitalism 567 00:25:49,447 --> 00:25:50,848 and what ownership is. 568 00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:52,883 Shut him down. Prep him for surgery. 569 00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:54,518 I had all my own wardrobe. 570 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:58,455 The glasses were mine, and it was my idea 571 00:25:58,456 --> 00:26:00,524 that Paul was not very happy with 572 00:26:00,525 --> 00:26:01,892 in the beginning. 573 00:26:01,893 --> 00:26:04,962 He said something to me about being attractive 574 00:26:04,963 --> 00:26:07,498 and he didn't understand why I wanted to wear them, 575 00:26:07,499 --> 00:26:13,003 and to me, it was her being able to put a barrier to say, 576 00:26:13,004 --> 00:26:14,738 you know, "Take me seriously", 577 00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:17,074 because she was working with all these men. 578 00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:18,676 And the one time 579 00:26:18,677 --> 00:26:20,644 she allowed herself to be vulnerable, you know, 580 00:26:20,645 --> 00:26:22,285 were those moments when she took them off. 581 00:26:22,647 --> 00:26:24,315 Happy New Year. 582 00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:26,016 Somebody asked me once, 583 00:26:26,017 --> 00:26:28,152 "You know, you fell over and they got that on camera", 584 00:26:28,153 --> 00:26:30,155 and it's like, "No, that's called acting." 585 00:26:31,222 --> 00:26:32,222 Oh! 586 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:37,595 Certainly, Miguel was, I'd say, my favorite person on the set. 587 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,029 Well, I played Bob Morton, 588 00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:41,365 who is a... a sort of up and coming executive 589 00:26:41,366 --> 00:26:43,167 with this company OCP. 590 00:26:43,168 --> 00:26:44,568 The company itself is kind of scary. 591 00:26:44,569 --> 00:26:46,170 It's like, "We are Beatrice", you know? 592 00:26:46,171 --> 00:26:48,305 We own the police, we own the hospital, it's great. 593 00:26:48,306 --> 00:26:51,575 The new mega corporation. 594 00:26:51,576 --> 00:26:55,946 And now, they've figured a way to go into law enforcement. 595 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:59,217 We'll come up with the best cop they ever saw. 596 00:26:59,918 --> 00:27:02,287 You're gonna be a bad motherfucker. 597 00:27:07,425 --> 00:27:11,228 Rob Bottin had several specific suggestions for Paul 598 00:27:11,229 --> 00:27:12,229 directorially. 599 00:27:13,264 --> 00:27:15,199 We get the best of both worlds. 600 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,404 You know that if you introduce that thing wrong, 601 00:27:20,405 --> 00:27:21,805 and you get a laugh, 602 00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:23,641 you're dead for the rest of the picture. 603 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,976 The fastest reflexes modern technology has to offer, 604 00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:28,212 onboard computer-assisted memory, 605 00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:31,415 and a lifetime of on-the-street law enforcement programming. 606 00:27:31,416 --> 00:27:34,918 Rob suggested that Paul, as he introduced RoboCop, 607 00:27:34,919 --> 00:27:36,286 conceal him. 608 00:27:36,287 --> 00:27:38,622 It is my great pleasure 609 00:27:38,623 --> 00:27:42,560 to present to you, RoboCop. 610 00:27:44,095 --> 00:27:46,330 And it's a beautiful directorial suggestion. 611 00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:48,899 Come on, come on, come on. 612 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,334 That's for you. 613 00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:51,635 The first time we see RoboCop 614 00:27:51,636 --> 00:27:52,903 is when the plastic is pulled off 615 00:27:52,904 --> 00:27:54,304 and there he is on the video screen. 616 00:27:56,808 --> 00:27:58,575 Then we see him behind frosted glass 617 00:27:58,576 --> 00:28:00,256 as he's walking into the police department. 618 00:28:02,747 --> 00:28:05,082 And we just see a turn as he goes through a door. 619 00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:06,583 It felt like something special was happening. 620 00:28:06,584 --> 00:28:08,153 What is this shit? 621 00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:12,456 Then there is wire mesh in front of him 622 00:28:12,457 --> 00:28:14,458 when we see him in his chair. 623 00:28:14,459 --> 00:28:16,627 When you're at rest, you will sit in the chair. 624 00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,328 Yes, I understand. 625 00:28:18,329 --> 00:28:21,331 Rob Bottin, in collaboration with Paul, 626 00:28:21,332 --> 00:28:22,700 choreographed that, 627 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:25,002 so that we slowly introduce the illusion. 628 00:28:25,003 --> 00:28:26,837 And by the time we actually see him, 629 00:28:26,838 --> 00:28:28,706 he's in the chair surrounded by metal, 630 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:30,674 And they're really selling this thing really well. 631 00:28:30,675 --> 00:28:32,010 That, to me, was brilliant. 632 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:36,513 The footstep test for RoboCop, 633 00:28:36,514 --> 00:28:40,652 we did 104 individual footstep tests. 634 00:28:43,288 --> 00:28:45,457 Because Paul wanted Robo to be massive. 635 00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:52,129 This is the sound effects prop for RoboCop's foot. 636 00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:53,964 It's a truck timing chain. 637 00:28:53,965 --> 00:28:55,733 It's... It's pulled out of a truck. 638 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:58,369 It's an old truck timing chain with uh, with handles on it. 639 00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:09,179 We hand cut these sort of cartoony, 640 00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:10,749 low-frequency whoops. 641 00:29:12,851 --> 00:29:15,385 Every time Rob walks, he's got a larger than life, 642 00:29:15,386 --> 00:29:17,021 cartoon element to him. 643 00:29:20,825 --> 00:29:22,059 We could perform it 644 00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:23,561 on all the surfaces Robo walked on. 645 00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:29,399 We could perform it dramatically 646 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,102 if he had to scuffle, if he had to go fast. 647 00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:34,938 And because Robo was a heroic character, 648 00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:38,375 without being spurs or roundels, like a Western, 649 00:29:38,376 --> 00:29:40,078 it had that flavor. 650 00:29:46,518 --> 00:29:48,786 Peter Weller had these jackets made for us. 651 00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:50,888 Um, he also gave us all nifty nicknames. 652 00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:52,389 Mine was "Sci-fi", 653 00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:54,558 which was probably the least derogatory of... 654 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:55,559 Of everyone elses. 655 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,593 What were the nicknames? 656 00:29:56,594 --> 00:29:58,428 I made nicknames for them. 657 00:29:58,429 --> 00:30:01,231 Mine was "His Royal Swami Blondness." 658 00:30:01,232 --> 00:30:03,667 It was like "Doc" from like the Seven Dwarves. 659 00:30:03,668 --> 00:30:05,436 Yeah, I remember calling Stephan "Doc". 660 00:30:06,871 --> 00:30:08,438 Stephan is a genius. 661 00:30:08,439 --> 00:30:10,007 He's a Dick Smith protégé. 662 00:30:10,008 --> 00:30:12,943 Todd Trotter, my assistant, was a great guy. 663 00:30:12,944 --> 00:30:15,946 Todd and Gregor were like nerds. 664 00:30:15,947 --> 00:30:17,881 Bart is one of the greats. 665 00:30:17,882 --> 00:30:20,818 Dennis was like just working constantly. 666 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,719 And Dennis here is like the chief mechanic, 667 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,721 he does all the... Supervises all the repairs, 668 00:30:24,722 --> 00:30:26,423 because there are people working on this suit 669 00:30:26,424 --> 00:30:27,491 round the clock. 670 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,393 Beautiful, beautiful guys, man. 671 00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:31,462 Guys were fantastic. 672 00:30:34,432 --> 00:30:36,266 To say it was a monumental effort 673 00:30:36,267 --> 00:30:38,169 to keep that suit running is an understatement. 674 00:30:38,937 --> 00:30:44,074 It was a 24-hour a day process to keep the few suits we had 675 00:30:44,075 --> 00:30:46,009 screen ready. 676 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:47,511 You got a Formula 1 team around you, 677 00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:49,146 changin' out arms, and all the stuff. 678 00:30:49,147 --> 00:30:52,416 And it took 45 minutes to warm up, stretching. 679 00:30:52,417 --> 00:30:54,518 Then workin' the inner suit, doin' all of the stuff. 680 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,820 Pop! Yeah? So, don't go neatly. 681 00:30:56,821 --> 00:30:59,489 Your... uh, your steps were not completely coordinated here. 682 00:30:59,490 --> 00:31:02,092 He greased the machine, Bottin, 683 00:31:02,093 --> 00:31:05,629 and he got it down to like a 90-minute put-on, 684 00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:07,950 which is the best we could do without really messing it up. 685 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:11,635 The main under suit was made out of foam latex 686 00:31:11,636 --> 00:31:13,370 and it was molded to his body. 687 00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:15,005 We had a bald cap, 688 00:31:15,006 --> 00:31:16,940 and then there was a black foam neck piece, 689 00:31:16,941 --> 00:31:18,842 and the foam jaw piece. 690 00:31:18,843 --> 00:31:20,444 The helmet was fiber glass. 691 00:31:20,445 --> 00:31:22,479 Everything else was a flexible urethane. 692 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,681 Urethanes just don't take paint very well. 693 00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:26,617 So, it would blister and peel, 694 00:31:26,618 --> 00:31:29,887 and so the suit was repaired almost every day. 695 00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:32,789 And by repaired I mean repainted from scratch. 696 00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:35,626 The paint job was like different coats 697 00:31:35,627 --> 00:31:39,830 of blues, yellows, purple, silver, and so on. 698 00:31:39,831 --> 00:31:42,633 So, it kind of changed color when he was walking around 699 00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:44,736 in different sort of lighting, which was really cool. 700 00:31:46,671 --> 00:31:48,005 The chest was a front and back piece 701 00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:49,339 that screwed on. 702 00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:50,908 And then there were the little rings 703 00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:53,143 on the shoulders, we just Super Glued those on. 704 00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,879 The arms were one piece that slid up 705 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,183 and had Velcro on the shoulders that anchored those to the suit. 706 00:32:00,251 --> 00:32:02,219 The black gloves were foam latex. 707 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:05,522 RoboCop couldn't be dressed without the power of K-Y jelly. 708 00:32:05,523 --> 00:32:06,990 To get his gloves on, 709 00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:08,859 there was quite a few gallons of K-Y jelly 710 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:10,093 that were used to do that. 711 00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:11,595 Those little details, 712 00:32:11,596 --> 00:32:13,163 there's like a pivot point on the hip 713 00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:15,198 that's like right at the pivot point. 714 00:32:15,199 --> 00:32:18,435 So, it looks like the leg is swingin' from that point. 715 00:32:18,436 --> 00:32:19,836 I remember Rob was really frustrated 716 00:32:19,837 --> 00:32:21,104 that Verhoeven said, 717 00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:22,506 "There's something wrong with the butt. 718 00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:24,074 I don't like it. It looks like a butterfly. 719 00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:26,076 It must be changed. We can't have a butterfly." 720 00:32:26,077 --> 00:32:28,712 And the... the Robo butt was a big point of contention, 721 00:32:28,713 --> 00:32:30,180 for some reason. 722 00:32:30,181 --> 00:32:31,941 And you don't see it very often in the movie. 723 00:32:33,785 --> 00:32:35,519 I can't imagine the film bein' a success 724 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,387 without Robo team's make-up work, 725 00:32:37,388 --> 00:32:40,425 because it really is just a guy in a plastic suit. 726 00:32:42,226 --> 00:32:43,760 There's one line I didn't like. 727 00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:45,629 What are your prime directives? 728 00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:47,297 I didn't like "Serve the public trust." 729 00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:49,266 It just seemed lightweight to me, 730 00:32:49,267 --> 00:32:51,601 and Paul convinced me to say it anyway. 731 00:32:51,602 --> 00:32:53,537 And uh, I like it now. I'm glad I said it. 732 00:32:53,538 --> 00:32:55,472 Serve the public trust. 733 00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:57,240 Because finally, what is a policemen 734 00:32:57,241 --> 00:32:58,576 except serving the public trust. 735 00:32:59,243 --> 00:33:01,311 Once this physique, 736 00:33:01,312 --> 00:33:07,584 and the physicality of the robot became organic to me, 737 00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:09,653 it became apparent 738 00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:14,758 that I had to lower the octave of the voice. 739 00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:16,460 Protect the innocent. 740 00:33:16,461 --> 00:33:17,662 You have to go, "Bravo..." 741 00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:22,132 You gotta relax it. 742 00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:24,101 So, you're drinkin' hot tea during the day. 743 00:33:24,102 --> 00:33:27,270 Not talkin' to people helps. Relax the vocal cords. 744 00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:31,476 And the diction has to be human but robotic. 745 00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:33,477 Uphold the law. 746 00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:37,114 When I'm doing this voice, it's down here. 747 00:33:37,115 --> 00:33:38,349 Stay out of trouble. 748 00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:41,251 Stay out of trouble. 749 00:33:41,252 --> 00:33:43,287 And yeah, they tweaked it in post a little bit. 750 00:33:45,356 --> 00:33:47,924 They did a little bit of processing on Robo's voice. 751 00:33:47,925 --> 00:33:50,660 Serve the public trust. Protect the innocent. 752 00:33:50,661 --> 00:33:52,095 Uphold the law. 753 00:33:52,096 --> 00:33:53,930 That was actually done on the dub stage, 754 00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:56,166 so that they could control the amount of it 755 00:33:56,167 --> 00:33:58,468 depending on where he was in the film. 756 00:33:58,469 --> 00:34:01,639 Come quietly or there will be trouble. 757 00:34:03,508 --> 00:34:07,477 Come quietly or there will be trouble. 758 00:34:07,478 --> 00:34:09,980 And Robo himself had voice processing 759 00:34:09,981 --> 00:34:12,215 that was put through some guitar stomp boxes. 760 00:34:12,216 --> 00:34:13,650 You are under arrest. 761 00:34:13,651 --> 00:34:15,285 And by the way, 762 00:34:15,286 --> 00:34:19,057 Peter's voice was just perfect for this character. 763 00:34:19,857 --> 00:34:21,392 Keep him talking. 764 00:34:22,393 --> 00:34:25,529 And then, of course, there was Paul Verhoeven, 765 00:34:25,530 --> 00:34:27,331 the crazy Dutchman. 766 00:34:31,135 --> 00:34:32,235 This movie without Paul Verhoeven 767 00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:33,236 is impossible. 768 00:34:33,237 --> 00:34:34,704 The energy and the passion. 769 00:34:34,705 --> 00:34:36,506 Verhoeven was the man. 770 00:34:36,507 --> 00:34:38,075 Thank you very much. Thank you. 771 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:39,710 And he was the man we tried to please. 772 00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:43,680 Action. 773 00:34:43,681 --> 00:34:44,714 The drive of the movie comes from Paul. 774 00:34:44,715 --> 00:34:46,917 Hello. Hi. Hey. Come on, guys. 775 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,886 It's impossible to imagine it without him. 776 00:34:51,689 --> 00:34:52,689 Pack up! 777 00:34:54,492 --> 00:34:57,360 He infused the set every day. 778 00:34:57,361 --> 00:34:58,595 There's nothing there. 779 00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:00,097 Just give me a little more there. 780 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,431 And he'd just walk on the set, and he'd say, 781 00:35:01,432 --> 00:35:03,066 "Why are we not shooting?" you know? 782 00:35:03,067 --> 00:35:04,734 And that's right there, you're ready to go, you know? 783 00:35:04,735 --> 00:35:07,170 And uh, he'd act out all the roles. 784 00:35:07,171 --> 00:35:08,939 Pop, pop. 785 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,073 And everything coming over here, 786 00:35:10,074 --> 00:35:11,108 and then he was here "Phew!" 787 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:12,776 You're thrown from the window. 788 00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:14,077 And when you're thrown from the window, "Boom!" 789 00:35:14,078 --> 00:35:14,779 you're thrown from the other window. 790 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:15,812 So many guns. 791 00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:17,253 He's like, "Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam!" 792 00:35:18,182 --> 00:35:20,418 "And so, give me that." And we're like, "Okay." 793 00:35:21,919 --> 00:35:24,721 The Verhoeven mantra on RoboCop was blood, 794 00:35:24,722 --> 00:35:26,256 I want more fucking blood. 795 00:35:26,257 --> 00:35:28,191 Bloody, extremely bloody. 796 00:35:28,192 --> 00:35:29,693 And he would scream that every day. 797 00:35:29,694 --> 00:35:31,027 One thing he'd like to say, 798 00:35:31,028 --> 00:35:33,763 I want sprouting blood! Sprouting blood! 799 00:35:33,764 --> 00:35:35,233 "Arms blowing off!" 800 00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:38,135 And we have... 801 00:35:39,737 --> 00:35:41,805 What he always say, "Yeah, I mean, what is life? 802 00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,441 Life is about sex, and about violence, 803 00:35:44,442 --> 00:35:46,409 about fighting, and about blood." 804 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:47,944 I love this. 805 00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:49,379 He just clearly really loved what he was doin'. 806 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:50,814 He was wildly enthusiastic. 807 00:35:50,815 --> 00:35:53,083 He's such a highly intelligent guy. 808 00:35:53,084 --> 00:35:54,417 And he loved actors. 809 00:35:54,418 --> 00:35:55,719 Go! 810 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,587 I think my influence and the style 811 00:35:57,588 --> 00:35:59,923 has much more to do with the way I work with the actors, 812 00:35:59,924 --> 00:36:02,926 which is I spend, I think, much more time with the actors 813 00:36:02,927 --> 00:36:05,228 than you would normally do for an action picture. 814 00:36:05,229 --> 00:36:09,132 Paul made us really care desperately 815 00:36:09,133 --> 00:36:10,134 about those characters. 816 00:36:12,803 --> 00:36:15,605 I mean I never saw a director worked as hard as Paul. 817 00:36:15,606 --> 00:36:18,608 But he was difficult. 818 00:36:18,609 --> 00:36:20,610 Paul was a very volatile guy. 819 00:36:20,611 --> 00:36:22,078 Paul was rather a mad man. 820 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,613 Yeah, he could be a monster. 821 00:36:23,614 --> 00:36:24,915 He had attitude. 822 00:36:24,916 --> 00:36:27,284 You could tell he was a... a sexual man. 823 00:36:27,285 --> 00:36:29,486 Full of energy, you know? Crazy. 824 00:36:29,487 --> 00:36:31,121 Yeah, he was kinda manic. 825 00:36:31,122 --> 00:36:32,756 Genius, brilliant director. 826 00:36:32,757 --> 00:36:34,024 I thought he was a little maniacal, 827 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:35,292 but I thought he was a genius. 828 00:36:35,293 --> 00:36:36,793 And he was a challenging director 829 00:36:36,794 --> 00:36:37,861 to work with. 830 00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:39,102 There was no question about it. 831 00:36:39,931 --> 00:36:41,831 Paul Verhoeven could be terrifying. 832 00:36:41,832 --> 00:36:43,533 I mean, he's a brilliant guy 833 00:36:43,534 --> 00:36:45,602 and a great cat to have dinner with, and so forth, 834 00:36:45,603 --> 00:36:47,103 but he's another human bein' on a set. 835 00:36:47,104 --> 00:36:48,538 Dan, we're comin' up next. 836 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:49,839 Come on, come on! 837 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,175 I don't think he trusted initially 838 00:36:52,176 --> 00:36:53,877 the American crew. 839 00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:56,279 I think there was some friction, because the American crew 840 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,148 had this sense of "We're Hollywood and you're not, 841 00:36:58,149 --> 00:36:59,649 and we're gonna show you how to make a movie", 842 00:36:59,650 --> 00:37:00,984 which was pretty funny, 843 00:37:00,985 --> 00:37:02,185 'cause he like kicked their asses. 844 00:37:02,186 --> 00:37:03,320 Okay, do it again! 845 00:37:03,321 --> 00:37:04,988 Do it again. Do it again! 846 00:37:04,989 --> 00:37:06,690 Shooting with the crew is always the same. 847 00:37:06,691 --> 00:37:09,192 I feel of that... If that's a Dutch crew 848 00:37:09,193 --> 00:37:11,728 or an American crew, I think, 849 00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:13,997 filming all over the world is the same. 850 00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:16,533 So, there is nothing specific to discuss basically 851 00:37:16,534 --> 00:37:18,168 than normal filmmaking. 852 00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:24,074 He treated people pretty poorly in many instances. 853 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:25,976 I've seen him go off on crews in ways 854 00:37:25,977 --> 00:37:29,012 that you just would not want to be around 855 00:37:29,013 --> 00:37:30,046 when that's happening. 856 00:37:30,047 --> 00:37:31,548 Paul would get in their faces 857 00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:35,018 and just frickin' scream at them. 858 00:37:35,019 --> 00:37:38,688 "I want more! It's not enough! You're fucking up my movie!" 859 00:37:38,689 --> 00:37:40,190 "What? Why? 860 00:37:40,191 --> 00:37:41,992 You're conspiring to ruin my movie!" 861 00:37:41,993 --> 00:37:44,227 I mean, he was just so crazy about it. 862 00:37:44,228 --> 00:37:46,563 He would blow up and go running off. 863 00:37:46,564 --> 00:37:49,000 Yelling and screaming, "Y'all! Boom, boom!" 864 00:37:49,867 --> 00:37:51,268 "This is crap! 865 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,236 You Americans don't know how to do it!" 866 00:37:53,237 --> 00:37:54,704 Wow! 867 00:37:54,705 --> 00:37:56,573 The tensions were very high at that time, 868 00:37:56,574 --> 00:37:58,742 because everybody had his own problem, 869 00:37:58,743 --> 00:38:00,744 annoying things happened, and this and that. 870 00:38:00,745 --> 00:38:04,347 It was always about things not being ready, 871 00:38:04,348 --> 00:38:06,416 things that he had been promised. 872 00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:08,351 I'll say this, it was always because 873 00:38:08,352 --> 00:38:10,420 he was tryin' to push the envelope 874 00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:12,956 not to get a nicer trailer for himself, 875 00:38:12,957 --> 00:38:14,891 not to have a fancier hotel room, 876 00:38:14,892 --> 00:38:16,760 it was always about the movie. 877 00:38:16,761 --> 00:38:20,697 He just was fighting everybody for the best. 878 00:38:20,698 --> 00:38:21,931 It's only intuition. 879 00:38:21,932 --> 00:38:24,234 I really go on intuition, 880 00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:29,039 and I've learned that in 90% of the cases I'm right. 881 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,473 And in 10% I'm wrong. 882 00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:32,977 And that's basically... Is enough. 883 00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:38,081 The thing with Paul is that Paul's nuts. 884 00:38:38,082 --> 00:38:41,117 But he's inspiring, man! 885 00:38:41,118 --> 00:38:44,621 You know, you feel like you're in the deck 886 00:38:44,622 --> 00:38:46,589 with Neil Armstrong, bro. 887 00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:48,658 That's what you feel like working with Paul. 888 00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:53,897 He's a quick, and inventive, and unsettled guy. 889 00:38:53,898 --> 00:38:57,467 And that took getting used to, but once I got used to that, 890 00:38:57,468 --> 00:38:59,102 which really didn't take a large adjustment, 891 00:38:59,103 --> 00:39:03,406 because I'm sort of unsettled and... and uh, restless. 892 00:39:03,407 --> 00:39:05,408 One I got used to that, we got used to each other 893 00:39:05,409 --> 00:39:07,310 that that's where we're gonna begin, 894 00:39:07,311 --> 00:39:08,312 then it was phenomenal. 895 00:39:16,153 --> 00:39:17,754 The Robo vision stuff. 896 00:39:17,755 --> 00:39:19,823 I had a guy once ask me what computer I was using 897 00:39:19,824 --> 00:39:22,359 back then in '87, 898 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,761 and I said, "I think I had a calculator, 899 00:39:24,762 --> 00:39:26,763 so I could do my invoicing." 900 00:39:26,764 --> 00:39:29,532 Remember that back then, this wasn't done on a computer. 901 00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:32,102 This was all done photographically and... 902 00:39:32,103 --> 00:39:33,103 And optically. 903 00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:37,807 One of the things that was a little tough 904 00:39:37,808 --> 00:39:39,275 was to try to come up with 905 00:39:39,276 --> 00:39:41,145 what they wanted Robo vision to look like. 906 00:39:42,446 --> 00:39:44,381 Let me see. 907 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:45,849 What I came up with was kind of a video line. 908 00:39:45,850 --> 00:39:47,384 It... it was an actual video, 909 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,018 it wasn't photographed off a video, 910 00:39:49,019 --> 00:39:54,124 it was actual optical printing with two sets of lines. 911 00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:57,494 One set of lines to lay in the first image 912 00:39:57,495 --> 00:39:58,561 every other line, 913 00:39:58,562 --> 00:39:59,896 and then the next set of lines, 914 00:39:59,897 --> 00:40:01,731 and I kind of shifted it a little bit, 915 00:40:01,732 --> 00:40:05,069 so it looked like it had kind of a jagged uh, appearance. 916 00:40:07,004 --> 00:40:10,206 It was a very technical process in those scenes, 917 00:40:10,207 --> 00:40:13,576 because there was gonna be a grid, you know? 918 00:40:13,577 --> 00:40:14,545 "Give me a grid." 919 00:40:14,546 --> 00:40:15,979 Give me a grid. 920 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:17,180 - Got it. - It's there. 921 00:40:17,181 --> 00:40:18,181 - Target. - Check. 922 00:40:18,182 --> 00:40:19,649 And coordinating everything 923 00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:22,419 with what was gonna be on the screen later, 924 00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:23,920 making sure that we were all looking 925 00:40:23,921 --> 00:40:26,189 in a particular direction at the same time, 926 00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:28,491 and it was a monumental task. 927 00:40:28,492 --> 00:40:29,692 Now, follow. 928 00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:31,529 It was basically followin' the pen. 929 00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:35,331 It was like all hands on deck, 930 00:40:35,332 --> 00:40:37,767 because the stuff was really, really tedious. 931 00:40:37,768 --> 00:40:39,402 Things like the targeting, as an example, 932 00:40:39,403 --> 00:40:40,770 would be uh, hand-drawn art. 933 00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:43,006 We would actually, on a clear cell, 934 00:40:43,007 --> 00:40:47,076 paint the cross and the box on separate layers. 935 00:40:47,077 --> 00:40:50,113 We would then paint black outside of them, 936 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:52,715 cover them with Exeter paper and black tape. 937 00:40:52,716 --> 00:40:55,118 That... that's really, at that time, all we had. 938 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:56,219 It... It seems like it was ridiculous 939 00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:57,087 now to talk about it. 940 00:40:57,088 --> 00:40:58,254 What, are you kidding? 941 00:40:58,255 --> 00:40:59,522 This was in the '80s, right? 942 00:40:59,523 --> 00:41:01,024 Yes. 943 00:41:01,025 --> 00:41:02,792 We project the work print down, 944 00:41:02,793 --> 00:41:05,094 line the art work up, plot it out, 945 00:41:05,095 --> 00:41:06,396 and then bottom light the art. 946 00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:08,698 I did a lot of optical printer testing 947 00:41:08,699 --> 00:41:11,601 of different types of effects to show to Paul 948 00:41:11,602 --> 00:41:13,537 and get an idea of what it was that he liked. 949 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:18,741 You'd have the crosshairs, animating. 950 00:41:18,742 --> 00:41:21,411 Then you'd have another element of the box, 951 00:41:21,412 --> 00:41:24,080 and either we could basically do a second exposure 952 00:41:24,081 --> 00:41:26,716 where we'd have the box animate on and off, 953 00:41:26,717 --> 00:41:28,451 or Pete could do that in the optical printer. 954 00:41:28,452 --> 00:41:30,652 It really all depended on what the shot was at the time. 955 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:34,457 Pete could then go into the printer, and color, 956 00:41:34,458 --> 00:41:36,593 and add a diffusion to give it a glow, 957 00:41:36,594 --> 00:41:38,761 and do these multiple passes and stuff to give it a... 958 00:41:38,762 --> 00:41:40,722 A kind of stylized look, so it wasn't just so raw. 959 00:41:42,299 --> 00:41:43,800 To make it look 960 00:41:43,801 --> 00:41:45,768 like it was some form of digital technology, 961 00:41:45,769 --> 00:41:48,806 without actually using any digital material or effects. 962 00:41:52,276 --> 00:41:56,279 All the visuals on Robo's POV came from sounds 963 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,848 that John Pospisil had made... 964 00:42:00,584 --> 00:42:03,186 From an ARP 2600, 965 00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:05,421 which were beeps, and dips, and zips. 966 00:42:05,422 --> 00:42:08,825 You could control these early analog synthesizers 967 00:42:08,826 --> 00:42:10,093 to make any kinda sound you wanted, 968 00:42:10,094 --> 00:42:11,629 but it took a very long time to do. 969 00:42:14,398 --> 00:42:17,433 Most of the text came from like Kodalith on high icon, 970 00:42:17,434 --> 00:42:19,035 high contrast film, 971 00:42:19,036 --> 00:42:21,838 which gave you a stark contrasty black-and-white image. 972 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:24,173 There were pages of font that you could buy, 973 00:42:24,174 --> 00:42:25,508 that you could basically paste up 974 00:42:25,509 --> 00:42:27,644 like in the old publishing days. 975 00:42:27,645 --> 00:42:30,113 Pete was really kind of the master of designing stuff 976 00:42:30,114 --> 00:42:31,314 on the optical printer. 977 00:42:31,315 --> 00:42:34,485 Voice stress analyzer 1, 2... 978 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,353 The voice analyzer, 979 00:42:37,354 --> 00:42:40,123 that I actually photographed off of like an oscilloscope 980 00:42:40,124 --> 00:42:42,492 and then composited that into the shot. 981 00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:43,960 I had to envision 982 00:42:43,961 --> 00:42:46,496 what the visual effects team was gonna do. 983 00:42:46,497 --> 00:42:50,833 So, I would get a s... uh, a sketch that I could see, 984 00:42:50,834 --> 00:42:54,003 but it was very difficult for me to actually, you know, 985 00:42:54,004 --> 00:42:55,638 do the timing, 986 00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:58,641 except from the way the people read it. 987 00:42:58,642 --> 00:43:01,311 You can sort of imagine it when it's written, 988 00:43:01,312 --> 00:43:03,314 but how well it was done... 989 00:43:04,748 --> 00:43:06,349 that was really incredible. 990 00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:07,917 Give me a full frame. 991 00:43:07,918 --> 00:43:09,485 Say there was probably somewhere in the neighborhood 992 00:43:09,486 --> 00:43:11,821 of 120 shots like that. 993 00:43:11,822 --> 00:43:12,822 Oh! 994 00:43:13,857 --> 00:43:15,159 I fuckin' love that guy! 995 00:43:21,265 --> 00:43:23,533 Verhoeven came to me one day and he said, 996 00:43:23,534 --> 00:43:26,336 "I need you to take Nancy Allen and teach her how to shoot, 997 00:43:26,337 --> 00:43:28,004 'cause she doesn't know how to shoot. 998 00:43:28,005 --> 00:43:30,573 And I want you to reach her to run like a man." 999 00:43:30,574 --> 00:43:32,376 And she goes, "Oh, Verhoeven ." 1000 00:43:34,511 --> 00:43:36,012 It was very different than anything 1001 00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:37,381 that I had done before. 1002 00:43:38,148 --> 00:43:41,451 For me, what was great about it is that I had so many women, 1003 00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:43,753 young women, sometimes little girls, 1004 00:43:43,754 --> 00:43:46,589 write to me about that character, 1005 00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:48,458 and how it made them feel, 1006 00:43:48,459 --> 00:43:50,059 like they could be really important, 1007 00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:51,761 and do something really important in their life. 1008 00:43:51,762 --> 00:43:53,129 "Wow! 1009 00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:55,199 Yeah, a woman can be that tough, too." 1010 00:43:57,534 --> 00:43:59,369 You know, they put us behind glass, 1011 00:43:59,370 --> 00:44:01,404 so that they could dolly across in front of us 1012 00:44:01,405 --> 00:44:03,373 with all of us firing. 1013 00:44:03,374 --> 00:44:05,374 They're all comin' down on it like a dolly, like... 1014 00:44:05,909 --> 00:44:07,710 I mean everybody shootin' over their heads 1015 00:44:07,711 --> 00:44:10,023 and stuff, and I was like "Lord, I don't wanna shoot anybody." 1016 00:44:10,047 --> 00:44:12,081 They were blanks obviously, 1017 00:44:12,082 --> 00:44:14,384 but I just remember it being very loud and all that. 1018 00:44:14,385 --> 00:44:17,487 The noise and everything in reality was really... 1019 00:44:17,488 --> 00:44:18,889 It was deafening. 1020 00:44:20,624 --> 00:44:23,226 The Robo gun presented a very interesting challenge, 1021 00:44:23,227 --> 00:44:24,827 because it had to be this huge gun 1022 00:44:24,828 --> 00:44:26,929 that's bigger than all the others. 1023 00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:28,898 The scene in the shooting range, where you see it back there, 1024 00:44:28,899 --> 00:44:30,466 it had to stand out. 1025 00:44:30,467 --> 00:44:32,135 It had to be a reason for all those others guys 1026 00:44:32,136 --> 00:44:33,504 to stop shooting and look. 1027 00:44:41,779 --> 00:44:43,079 The actual firing, 1028 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,447 they sweetened the hell out of that 1029 00:44:44,448 --> 00:44:45,482 with so many other guns. 1030 00:44:48,385 --> 00:44:51,354 And John Pospisil, he was our mad genius. 1031 00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:52,990 He made all kinds of synth sweeteners. 1032 00:44:55,959 --> 00:44:56,994 And just made it huge. 1033 00:45:01,765 --> 00:45:04,033 To see that... That freakin' creation and... 1034 00:45:04,034 --> 00:45:06,669 And those cannons that he pulled out of his thing 1035 00:45:06,670 --> 00:45:09,038 and started blastin' away with, it was uh, it was... 1036 00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,441 It was kind of great. It was kinda... it was very cool. 1037 00:45:11,442 --> 00:45:15,344 And I remember the entrance of... Of RoboCop into that scene, 1038 00:45:15,345 --> 00:45:17,214 and how... how exciting it was. 1039 00:45:19,216 --> 00:45:22,652 To see that character in that full regalia, 1040 00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:25,155 with a gun, was just frightening. 1041 00:45:26,523 --> 00:45:28,224 Hey, hang on, it's Super Cop. 1042 00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:30,359 Hey, Lewis, it's Super Cop. 1043 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,129 Look at that fuckin' gun. 1044 00:45:35,065 --> 00:45:36,532 That fuckin' gun. 1045 00:45:36,533 --> 00:45:38,167 That was so cool, 1046 00:45:38,168 --> 00:45:39,069 'cause I got to say "fuckin'" on film. 1047 00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:40,069 I thought it was great. 1048 00:45:43,707 --> 00:45:45,241 At first, I was very interested 1049 00:45:45,242 --> 00:45:47,510 in the Israeli Desert Eagle as RoboCop's gun, 1050 00:45:47,511 --> 00:45:49,045 'cause that was a new gun. 1051 00:45:49,046 --> 00:45:51,147 But when we saw it with the costume, 1052 00:45:51,148 --> 00:45:52,750 it was like a... a tiny toy. 1053 00:45:56,086 --> 00:45:57,720 And they said my big problem is 1054 00:45:57,721 --> 00:46:00,022 the finger doesn't fit in any triggers. 1055 00:46:00,023 --> 00:46:03,192 And I said, "Well, you know, I have a gun in my car." 1056 00:46:03,193 --> 00:46:06,562 My car gun that I show... Being from Texas, you know, 1057 00:46:06,563 --> 00:46:07,563 we all have car guns. 1058 00:46:08,398 --> 00:46:10,867 I had a Beretta 93R in my vehicle, 1059 00:46:10,868 --> 00:46:13,069 and I showed 'em the extended trigger guard. 1060 00:46:13,070 --> 00:46:16,607 It allowed the RoboCop finger to go in with the glove on. 1061 00:46:17,241 --> 00:46:19,742 At that point, we sat down with the 93R, 1062 00:46:19,743 --> 00:46:22,545 and then Paul Verhoeven and I drew 1063 00:46:22,546 --> 00:46:24,547 what he wanted to see. 1064 00:46:24,548 --> 00:46:26,716 And we sat down one afternoon and we designed that gun. 1065 00:46:26,717 --> 00:46:29,285 And it was one of the most creative moments of my life. 1066 00:46:29,286 --> 00:46:30,754 Gonna need some major firepower. 1067 00:46:37,394 --> 00:46:41,798 They wanted sides. I did the vent rib on the top. 1068 00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:44,935 We were adding texture, so that's why it's thin. 1069 00:46:47,371 --> 00:46:49,238 The object is to make it visually interesting 1070 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,407 and to make it also function. 1071 00:46:52,709 --> 00:46:54,544 They were gonna do a lot of lower shots, 1072 00:46:54,545 --> 00:46:56,212 lookin' up, under the gun, and everything. 1073 00:46:56,213 --> 00:46:57,647 And I said, "Well, if we do that, 1074 00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:59,650 we need to put the flame out the side." 1075 00:47:01,251 --> 00:47:04,254 The three ports in the front are to give us the bowtie flame. 1076 00:47:07,057 --> 00:47:09,592 So, this is the gun. 1077 00:47:09,593 --> 00:47:13,129 And the first time I fired, it was on that firing range. 1078 00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:15,966 And it was loud. It was really, really loud. 1079 00:47:18,569 --> 00:47:20,970 The gun is capable of firing three shot, 1080 00:47:20,971 --> 00:47:22,505 seven shot, or full auto, 1081 00:47:22,506 --> 00:47:23,973 depending on the counting mechanism 1082 00:47:23,974 --> 00:47:25,675 in the side that we put in. 1083 00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:28,444 The standard gun fires three-shot bursts only, 1084 00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:29,446 or semi-auto. 1085 00:47:30,914 --> 00:47:34,483 Semi-automatic, you gotta go, pull the trigger every time. 1086 00:47:34,484 --> 00:47:36,720 The bullet expands the shell. 1087 00:47:38,989 --> 00:47:41,123 On the set, you knew that was a cool gun. 1088 00:47:41,124 --> 00:47:43,084 And I think it's one of the coolest guns there is. 1089 00:47:45,462 --> 00:47:48,431 My directing was more movement directing. 1090 00:47:48,432 --> 00:47:51,167 It was not about character acting, you know? 1091 00:47:51,168 --> 00:47:52,688 I mean, the character was like, "Bang!" 1092 00:47:55,539 --> 00:47:57,773 The reason that they needed a second unit director 1093 00:47:57,774 --> 00:48:00,276 was because Paul was on a very tight schedule. 1094 00:48:00,277 --> 00:48:03,312 So, he had to keep moving, and moving, and moving. 1095 00:48:03,313 --> 00:48:04,714 And then in some of the sequences, 1096 00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:06,949 he couldn't get all the coverage that he wanted. 1097 00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:10,486 So, I shot close-ups of the targets getting shot, 1098 00:48:10,487 --> 00:48:13,357 and different characters reacting to RoboCop. 1099 00:48:14,791 --> 00:48:16,459 And when you fire blanks, 1100 00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:19,061 the blank will kill you if you're close to it. 1101 00:48:19,062 --> 00:48:22,298 Full loads are the capacity of powder 1102 00:48:22,299 --> 00:48:24,333 in a nine-mil shell 1103 00:48:24,334 --> 00:48:25,835 that's gonna fire a bullet, right? 1104 00:48:25,836 --> 00:48:27,403 A projectile. 1105 00:48:27,404 --> 00:48:29,639 You gotta put something in there for that compression 1106 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,640 to shoot out. 1107 00:48:32,409 --> 00:48:34,143 Those blanks, as far as I know, 1108 00:48:34,144 --> 00:48:37,079 are the most powerful blanks ever been used in a movie. 1109 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,118 And you pull the trigger, and hold it down. 1110 00:48:44,254 --> 00:48:45,889 It's gonna freak you out, man. 1111 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,894 And I was like fire one-handed, man. 1112 00:48:51,895 --> 00:48:54,230 I never liked doin' the police stuff, man. 1113 00:48:54,231 --> 00:48:55,866 I like holdin' it here. 1114 00:48:58,735 --> 00:48:59,936 This guy's really good. 1115 00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:01,837 He's not a guy, he's a machine. 1116 00:49:01,838 --> 00:49:03,198 What are they gonna do? Replace us? 1117 00:49:04,675 --> 00:49:06,876 When he does the spinning of the gun, 1118 00:49:06,877 --> 00:49:10,846 and she remembers and recognizes that that's probably him. 1119 00:49:10,847 --> 00:49:12,949 That's someone who really pays attention. 1120 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:14,617 This is what it says a lot about her. 1121 00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:17,219 She really pays attention. She doesn't miss anything. 1122 00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:18,521 'Cause that could be something 1123 00:49:18,522 --> 00:49:19,956 that you could forget in a second. 1124 00:49:19,957 --> 00:49:22,359 But she's very sharp in that way. 1125 00:49:24,728 --> 00:49:27,897 Robo team made a leg that sits vertically, 1126 00:49:27,898 --> 00:49:30,032 and it's just to the hip. 1127 00:49:30,033 --> 00:49:33,202 One guys opens the doors with cable operation. 1128 00:49:33,203 --> 00:49:35,871 Another guy makes the holster go out. 1129 00:49:35,872 --> 00:49:38,775 Weapon goes in, holster goes in, doors close. 1130 00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:46,449 One of the many surprises about seeing the movie 1131 00:49:46,450 --> 00:49:48,451 was just the... the... You had no idea 1132 00:49:48,452 --> 00:49:49,919 what the sound effects were gonna be. 1133 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,989 Well, back in the days before there was paper 1134 00:49:52,990 --> 00:49:55,958 and people used cuneiform on clay tablets, 1135 00:49:55,959 --> 00:49:57,794 there were things called "VCRs". 1136 00:50:01,431 --> 00:50:03,834 So, Robo mostly was a Betamax. 1137 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:10,007 And a VHS, VCR. Loading movement. 1138 00:50:12,442 --> 00:50:15,178 And we cut them so that they matched action. 1139 00:50:18,582 --> 00:50:21,985 And when sounds match action, they tell the truth. 1140 00:50:24,187 --> 00:50:27,089 The lead editor on Robo was Dave Whitaker. 1141 00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:29,191 And he even wrote this... This document. 1142 00:50:29,192 --> 00:50:31,360 It was like a 12-page document "How to cut Robo" 1143 00:50:31,361 --> 00:50:33,295 that had all the numbers of the library 1144 00:50:33,296 --> 00:50:35,364 and all the different servos. 1145 00:50:35,365 --> 00:50:36,932 Little diagrams on, you know, 1146 00:50:36,933 --> 00:50:39,602 the sound of this, and the sound of this. 1147 00:50:39,603 --> 00:50:40,603 And all the little... 1148 00:50:41,371 --> 00:50:43,340 Stuff that they put in post. 1149 00:50:44,674 --> 00:50:47,777 For the whole movie, every little detail just 1150 00:50:47,778 --> 00:50:49,058 really helped to bring him alive. 1151 00:50:53,016 --> 00:50:55,217 John P is the mystery man. 1152 00:50:55,218 --> 00:50:57,186 You'd ask him to make something and he'd come back 1153 00:50:57,187 --> 00:50:58,487 with something a couple days later 1154 00:50:58,488 --> 00:50:59,855 that was just absolutely perfect. 1155 00:50:59,856 --> 00:51:01,176 You dropped it into picture and... 1156 00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:05,195 "Oh, yeah, that's... That's exactly it." 1157 00:51:07,697 --> 00:51:11,567 He made a lot of sort of cheesy, synthy sweeteners and... 1158 00:51:11,568 --> 00:51:12,648 And things to accent stuff. 1159 00:51:16,673 --> 00:51:18,641 This is before the digital age, 1160 00:51:18,642 --> 00:51:20,377 and it was all cut on magnetic film. 1161 00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:22,711 So, you have hundreds of these reels, 1162 00:51:22,712 --> 00:51:25,748 sitting in a hallway, waiting to be dubbed. 1163 00:51:25,749 --> 00:51:28,884 And it was a glorious sight seeing all these dubbers 1164 00:51:28,885 --> 00:51:32,488 with all these reels of sound going back and forth in sync 1165 00:51:32,489 --> 00:51:34,356 while they dubbed the movie in the theater. 1166 00:51:34,357 --> 00:51:36,225 It's really a monumental job. 1167 00:51:36,226 --> 00:51:39,228 Even though the number crunchers were tryin' to you know, 1168 00:51:39,229 --> 00:51:42,431 "No, we're not spending another dime on this thing", 1169 00:51:42,432 --> 00:51:46,535 Sol Lomita got us another $200,000 or $300,000, 1170 00:51:46,536 --> 00:51:48,337 for the sound effects, 1171 00:51:48,338 --> 00:51:51,108 and it won the Academy Award for sound effects. 1172 00:51:52,409 --> 00:51:54,110 Just being there, 1173 00:51:54,111 --> 00:51:58,948 I felt as if I was walking four feet above the ground. 1174 00:51:58,949 --> 00:52:01,750 And then, when I got home from the Oscars, 1175 00:52:01,751 --> 00:52:04,887 Peter Weller had sent me two dozen yellow roses 1176 00:52:04,888 --> 00:52:05,956 to say "Congratulations." 1177 00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:13,129 Peter is not only a wonderful actor, 1178 00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:15,898 but he's probably one of the most disciplined people 1179 00:52:15,899 --> 00:52:17,733 I've ever met in my life. 1180 00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:21,937 I had to get into that animal. 1181 00:52:21,938 --> 00:52:24,373 And that's a method deal, man. 1182 00:52:24,374 --> 00:52:26,242 I just couldn't walk out in that thing and go, 1183 00:52:26,243 --> 00:52:27,743 "Hey, yeah, I'm Peter." 1184 00:52:27,744 --> 00:52:31,280 So, I talked to no one except the Robo team. 1185 00:52:31,281 --> 00:52:33,082 I listened to no one except Paul. 1186 00:52:33,083 --> 00:52:34,617 That's the guy who'd come up. 1187 00:52:34,618 --> 00:52:37,286 But everybody else was out. 1188 00:52:37,287 --> 00:52:40,423 When he stepped on the set, he was that guy. 1189 00:52:41,458 --> 00:52:44,627 The first day on the set, he announced to everyone, 1190 00:52:44,628 --> 00:52:45,895 "Call me 'Robo'." 1191 00:52:45,896 --> 00:52:47,464 Robo, excuse me! Robo! 1192 00:52:47,931 --> 00:52:50,833 When I first got there, I said, "What's this Peter Weller like?" 1193 00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:52,501 And they said, "Well, I don't know. 1194 00:52:52,502 --> 00:52:55,304 You know, I guess he only wants to be called 'Robo' 1195 00:52:55,305 --> 00:52:56,606 or 'Murphy'." 1196 00:52:57,807 --> 00:52:58,807 I was like, "What?" 1197 00:52:59,809 --> 00:53:00,809 Clarence! 1198 00:53:01,278 --> 00:53:03,245 Once I was in there, they called me "Robo", 1199 00:53:03,246 --> 00:53:06,081 and you know, I don't give a fuck about... 1200 00:53:06,082 --> 00:53:07,449 You know, certain people would come up, 1201 00:53:07,450 --> 00:53:08,651 "Do people call... Really call you "Robo"? 1202 00:53:08,652 --> 00:53:11,987 You go do that in 105 degree heat. 1203 00:53:11,988 --> 00:53:16,258 You prep that for six months, and put on that suit. 1204 00:53:16,259 --> 00:53:19,962 Once I get suit on, tough shit. That's who I am. 1205 00:53:19,963 --> 00:53:21,497 Paul Verhoeven called me "Robo". 1206 00:53:21,498 --> 00:53:23,800 One last rehearsal, please, for Robo. 1207 00:53:24,167 --> 00:53:26,268 When Peter told me that 1208 00:53:26,269 --> 00:53:28,504 when he's in the police suit, I'm Murphy, 1209 00:53:28,505 --> 00:53:30,039 and when I'm in the RoboCop suit, 1210 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,473 I'm RoboCop, 1211 00:53:31,474 --> 00:53:34,443 I just looked at him and, "Sure." 1212 00:53:34,444 --> 00:53:37,781 And that... And that irritated him to death. 1213 00:53:38,648 --> 00:53:40,282 Don't you have a name? 1214 00:53:40,283 --> 00:53:43,652 So, I just decided that I wouldn't talk to him, 1215 00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:46,555 because uh, I wasn't gonna try to be friendly with some guy 1216 00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:49,325 and be calling him "Robo". 1217 00:53:49,326 --> 00:53:53,495 I clashed, at one point, with almost everybody 1218 00:53:53,496 --> 00:53:54,697 on that movie. 1219 00:53:54,698 --> 00:53:56,966 Clash, but it was a quick clash. 1220 00:53:56,967 --> 00:54:00,135 He was always telling jokes and stories, 1221 00:54:00,136 --> 00:54:01,370 and playing his trumpet, 1222 00:54:01,371 --> 00:54:02,891 which sometimes got on people's nerves. 1223 00:54:04,307 --> 00:54:07,076 He uh, plays a man jazz trumpet, studying Kendo. 1224 00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:09,145 Chases female cyborgs, you know, things like that. 1225 00:54:11,314 --> 00:54:12,415 Is he on this floor? 1226 00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:16,318 No. He... he's great, he's terrific. 1227 00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:18,687 Fun at parties, hell of a guy. Really. 1228 00:54:18,688 --> 00:54:19,688 Wouldn't you say? 1229 00:54:21,591 --> 00:54:23,692 The working relationship was always good, 1230 00:54:23,693 --> 00:54:25,761 because I think, you know, misery loves company. 1231 00:54:25,762 --> 00:54:28,097 We both were in the same situation 1232 00:54:28,098 --> 00:54:29,665 all day long. 1233 00:54:29,666 --> 00:54:31,934 Both of us just, you know, sittin' there and goin', 1234 00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:33,569 "God, is this hot?", and he said, "Yeah." 1235 00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:34,938 "Is this miserable?" "Yeah." 1236 00:54:35,872 --> 00:54:38,674 And there were some difficult times, 1237 00:54:38,675 --> 00:54:39,876 really difficult times. 1238 00:54:40,777 --> 00:54:45,514 RoboCop was a... was an obsessive discipline for me. 1239 00:54:45,515 --> 00:54:49,051 I am the future of law enforcement. 1240 00:54:49,052 --> 00:54:50,119 That says it all, doesn't it? 1241 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,121 Thank you, Robo. That's good job. 1242 00:54:52,122 --> 00:54:53,556 Thank you. 1243 00:54:54,958 --> 00:54:56,726 What did I tell ya? Be lookin' for him. 1244 00:55:01,898 --> 00:55:04,266 The first day that we were shooting with the suit, 1245 00:55:04,267 --> 00:55:06,735 we scheduled a very late day. 1246 00:55:06,736 --> 00:55:08,103 - Reed! SGT. - Yeah. 1247 00:55:08,104 --> 00:55:09,072 He needs a car. 1248 00:55:09,073 --> 00:55:10,539 And the shot was, 1249 00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:12,541 Peter walks through the police station 1250 00:55:12,542 --> 00:55:14,276 and catches the car keys. 1251 00:55:14,277 --> 00:55:16,078 He's wearing his kinda rubber gloves 1252 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,479 and he... you know, 1253 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,814 he wasn't really supposed to look at it. 1254 00:55:18,815 --> 00:55:20,716 He was supposed to just catch it. 1255 00:55:20,717 --> 00:55:22,819 And the car keys would bounce at him. 1256 00:55:23,953 --> 00:55:24,888 No. 1257 00:55:24,888 --> 00:55:25,722 Cut. 1258 00:55:25,723 --> 00:55:27,556 We must've shot that 1259 00:55:27,557 --> 00:55:31,293 from 9:00 at night to 1:00 in the morning, 1260 00:55:31,294 --> 00:55:32,896 tryin' to catch the car keys. 1261 00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:34,830 Thank you. 1262 00:55:36,066 --> 00:55:38,233 Sure, anytime. 1263 00:55:38,234 --> 00:55:40,269 It was that kinda show. 1264 00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:41,338 Go get 'em, boy. 1265 00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:50,279 When I'm driving, 1266 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,847 the Robo team would take the legs off, 1267 00:55:51,848 --> 00:55:54,950 so I could like uh, sit in the car and drive it. 1268 00:55:54,951 --> 00:55:57,319 And yeah, it was me driving most of the time, 1269 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,521 with Jost shooting this wonderful stuff, 1270 00:55:59,522 --> 00:56:01,023 and Paul's in the backseat saying, 1271 00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:02,791 "Let's drive up here, let's drive up there." 1272 00:56:02,792 --> 00:56:05,594 You know that we spent months, and months, and months 1273 00:56:05,595 --> 00:56:08,130 creating a new police car. 1274 00:56:08,131 --> 00:56:10,432 We built the car for RoboCop, 1275 00:56:10,433 --> 00:56:12,468 but they didn't take into consideration 1276 00:56:12,469 --> 00:56:15,938 that when he got in the car, he would have that suit on. 1277 00:56:15,939 --> 00:56:17,373 And he didn't fit. 1278 00:56:17,374 --> 00:56:19,141 Of course, it was a disaster. 1279 00:56:19,142 --> 00:56:21,443 So, we then bef... I abandoned 1280 00:56:21,444 --> 00:56:24,813 all kind of wonderful production design ideas. 1281 00:56:24,814 --> 00:56:26,849 I throw it all out of the window. 1282 00:56:26,850 --> 00:56:28,851 Yeah, there is this kind of strange person, 1283 00:56:28,852 --> 00:56:29,853 but rest is all normal. 1284 00:56:31,621 --> 00:56:33,155 Paul came up with the idea, 1285 00:56:33,156 --> 00:56:36,191 "Okay, a completely rundown police department 1286 00:56:36,192 --> 00:56:40,028 doesn't need to have very nice, wonderful, new, shiny cars. 1287 00:56:40,029 --> 00:56:41,730 No." 1288 00:56:41,731 --> 00:56:43,699 That car, we abandoned that and we used a normal car. 1289 00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:45,667 The new Taurus at that time we used. 1290 00:56:45,668 --> 00:56:46,902 ♪ Taurus ♪ 1291 00:56:46,903 --> 00:56:49,004 ♪ Now, there is a personal car ♪ 1292 00:56:49,005 --> 00:56:52,509 ♪ That has exactly what we've been looking for ♪ 1293 00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:54,977 It was just in production. 1294 00:56:54,978 --> 00:56:57,380 Looked a little bit modern, so we took that. 1295 00:57:01,351 --> 00:57:03,252 Science fiction, it's very easy for it 1296 00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,020 to become sort of enmeshed in a world view 1297 00:57:05,021 --> 00:57:07,756 that's hyperdesigned, hyperfocused, and stuff. 1298 00:57:07,757 --> 00:57:09,024 And what I thought was really cool 1299 00:57:09,025 --> 00:57:10,426 about RoboCop was, 1300 00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:12,161 it really put a lot of that stuff aside 1301 00:57:12,162 --> 00:57:13,396 and just was what it was. 1302 00:57:16,166 --> 00:57:18,567 And I thought that just worked in service of the picture. 1303 00:57:18,568 --> 00:57:20,002 It couldn't have been better 1304 00:57:20,003 --> 00:57:21,003 that these things were just Ford Tauruses 1305 00:57:21,004 --> 00:57:22,172 painted flat black. 1306 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,909 I remember how important it was for the movie 1307 00:57:26,910 --> 00:57:28,610 that we didn't have so much money. 1308 00:57:28,611 --> 00:57:30,846 Because you come up with solutions 1309 00:57:30,847 --> 00:57:34,450 that are extremely simple and... And effective. 1310 00:57:34,451 --> 00:57:39,054 It was interesting to see a gleaming, shining robot 1311 00:57:39,055 --> 00:57:43,225 against the crumbling infrastructure of Dallas, 1312 00:57:43,226 --> 00:57:44,860 standing in for Detroit. 1313 00:57:44,861 --> 00:57:47,963 I find that a very interesting juxtaposition of images. 1314 00:57:47,964 --> 00:57:50,866 A lot of RoboCop has reflections, 1315 00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:52,868 and I mean that literally. 1316 00:57:52,869 --> 00:57:55,471 Uh, they polished up the suit with oils, 1317 00:57:55,472 --> 00:57:57,906 and everything around him is just shining. 1318 00:57:57,907 --> 00:57:59,107 And that was intentional. 1319 00:57:59,108 --> 00:58:00,909 And it was Paul's way of saying 1320 00:58:00,910 --> 00:58:05,648 that this was a very steely, cold mechanical world. 1321 00:58:08,284 --> 00:58:10,419 Will there be anything else, sir? 1322 00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:12,421 Yeah, empty the register and put the money in the bag. 1323 00:58:12,422 --> 00:58:13,755 We went in that liquor store 1324 00:58:13,756 --> 00:58:15,156 and it was a practical liquor store. 1325 00:58:16,593 --> 00:58:18,494 Hophead enters 1326 00:58:18,495 --> 00:58:21,129 and in passing this nefarious robbery, 1327 00:58:21,130 --> 00:58:24,466 he picks up a copy of uh, a Marvel Comic. 1328 00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:26,635 Strangely, they're all Marvel Comics. 1329 00:58:26,636 --> 00:58:28,270 There's a copy of Blade Runner, 1330 00:58:28,271 --> 00:58:30,939 which was also part of the origins of the script, 1331 00:58:30,940 --> 00:58:34,244 because the film inspired the idea of RoboCop. 1332 00:58:35,245 --> 00:58:37,813 And the issue he picks up is this one, 1333 00:58:37,814 --> 00:58:40,282 which is Iron Man 142, 1334 00:58:40,283 --> 00:58:44,654 and it's where Iron Man displays his new high-tech armor, 1335 00:58:45,922 --> 00:58:47,756 which is of course what RoboCop does 1336 00:58:47,757 --> 00:58:48,957 in the very next scene. 1337 00:58:48,958 --> 00:58:50,493 Two. 1338 00:58:52,595 --> 00:58:53,997 Fuck me. 1339 00:58:55,365 --> 00:58:57,799 Avram Gold was our dialogue supervisor 1340 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,635 I remember him having a problem with a scene one day, 1341 00:58:59,636 --> 00:59:02,704 and he came in to me, and said, "Ron, there's this scene. 1342 00:59:02,705 --> 00:59:06,875 There's this guy, he goes in, and he shoots up a liquor store, 1343 00:59:06,876 --> 00:59:10,045 and he only says two words, and he just repeats them. 1344 00:59:10,046 --> 00:59:12,180 It's "fuck me, fuck me, fuck me, fuck..." 1345 00:59:12,181 --> 00:59:15,117 Fuck me! Fuck me! Fuck me! 1346 00:59:15,118 --> 00:59:17,286 But you can't use that for the TV version 1347 00:59:17,287 --> 00:59:19,321 or everything else that he has to get ready. 1348 00:59:19,322 --> 00:59:20,956 So, he lookin' for... "Ron, is there anything else?" 1349 00:59:20,957 --> 00:59:23,358 You know, we had to go through da... No! 1350 00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:24,826 I never thought of any... You know, 1351 00:59:24,827 --> 00:59:27,529 shooting anything else for TV, 1352 00:59:27,530 --> 00:59:29,631 or just to have other words in there. 1353 00:59:29,632 --> 00:59:30,966 So, yeah, you know, 1354 00:59:30,967 --> 00:59:32,567 they obviously had to re... rerecord him. 1355 00:59:34,137 --> 00:59:35,638 Why me? 1356 00:59:36,472 --> 00:59:38,541 Drop the gun. You are under arrest. 1357 00:59:41,344 --> 00:59:42,644 Why me? Why me? 1358 00:59:42,645 --> 00:59:44,480 Why me? Why me? Why me? 1359 00:59:49,252 --> 00:59:50,519 He's walking around there, 1360 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,087 shooting at him all over the place. 1361 00:59:52,088 --> 00:59:54,222 Like, "Pop, pop, pop!" I mean, so on. 1362 00:59:54,223 --> 00:59:56,224 And I said to myself, "Well, 1363 00:59:56,225 --> 00:59:58,827 if he's getting shot all over the place, 1364 00:59:58,828 --> 01:00:00,896 we should show some damage on the armor." 1365 01:00:00,897 --> 01:00:02,598 Then Rob said, "No! 1366 01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:05,601 This is like an indestructible sort of like new armor, 1367 01:00:05,602 --> 01:00:08,103 so it shouldn't show too much damage. 1368 01:00:08,104 --> 01:00:09,584 I said, "Oh, okay, I get the picture." 1369 01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:15,377 Paul wanted him to pick up the guy 1370 01:00:15,378 --> 01:00:17,713 And throw him into this thing. 1371 01:00:17,714 --> 01:00:21,350 So, we built this big fridge with breakaway glass, 1372 01:00:21,351 --> 01:00:23,519 candy glass, and breakaway balsa wood. 1373 01:00:28,691 --> 01:00:32,194 It was kicks, baby. Kicks! 1374 01:00:32,195 --> 01:00:34,930 The timing of that, "God, that's great." 1375 01:00:34,931 --> 01:00:38,034 Thank you for your cooperation. Good Night. 1376 01:00:43,473 --> 01:00:45,641 I was originally cast to be in RoboCop 1. 1377 01:00:45,642 --> 01:00:48,644 Uh, RoboCop 1 was filmed in Dallas, 1378 01:00:48,645 --> 01:00:50,112 and I was born and raised in Dallas, 1379 01:00:50,113 --> 01:00:52,447 that's where I got my acting career started. 1380 01:00:52,448 --> 01:00:55,217 So, I got a small part in that. 1381 01:00:55,218 --> 01:00:58,220 So, my part was that I'm a little tiny kid 1382 01:00:58,221 --> 01:01:00,622 and I have on like this little army jacket kind of thing, 1383 01:01:00,623 --> 01:01:02,090 and I'm walking around, 1384 01:01:02,091 --> 01:01:03,258 and I'm looking at the guy behind the counter 1385 01:01:03,259 --> 01:01:04,960 and looking at candy bars, 1386 01:01:04,961 --> 01:01:07,663 and so I take a candy bar, and slide it into my jacket. 1387 01:01:07,664 --> 01:01:09,264 That's when the guy comes in 1388 01:01:09,265 --> 01:01:11,266 and starts robbing the liquor store. 1389 01:01:11,267 --> 01:01:13,101 Give me your money. All of it! 1390 01:01:13,102 --> 01:01:16,471 And don't fuck around! Where's the safe, old man? 1391 01:01:16,472 --> 01:01:18,407 We... we don't have a safe. 1392 01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:20,108 Open the safe, pops, 1393 01:01:20,109 --> 01:01:23,311 or I'm gonna blow junior here all over the candy rack. 1394 01:01:23,312 --> 01:01:25,914 Oh, don't hurt the boy. I'll open the safe. 1395 01:01:25,915 --> 01:01:27,849 You're stallin', old man! 1396 01:01:27,850 --> 01:01:30,619 You got the count of three to get that safe open. 1397 01:01:30,620 --> 01:01:32,822 One, two... 1398 01:01:34,157 --> 01:01:36,091 Drop it. You're under arrest. 1399 01:01:36,092 --> 01:01:37,292 Wow! 1400 01:01:37,293 --> 01:01:38,494 Fuck you, cop! 1401 01:01:40,296 --> 01:01:41,831 You're in a lot of trouble. 1402 01:01:42,598 --> 01:01:44,467 Oh, fuck me. 1403 01:01:47,804 --> 01:01:49,638 I'm like standin' there, you know, 1404 01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:51,506 lookin' in awe as a child at RoboCop, and he says... 1405 01:01:51,507 --> 01:01:53,842 Prisoner transport will arrive shortly. 1406 01:01:53,843 --> 01:01:55,610 Thank you for your cooperation. 1407 01:01:55,611 --> 01:01:57,646 Good night, and have a pleasant evening. 1408 01:01:57,647 --> 01:01:59,681 Now, I stare at him and watch him walk out the door, 1409 01:01:59,682 --> 01:02:01,383 and so the end of the scene is me, 1410 01:02:01,384 --> 01:02:02,951 like taking the candy bar out of my pocket, 1411 01:02:02,952 --> 01:02:03,820 and putting it on the counter, and saying... 1412 01:02:03,821 --> 01:02:05,454 "How much for this?" 1413 01:02:05,455 --> 01:02:07,389 That obviously didn't appear in the original movie, 1414 01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:10,058 because Texas child labor laws at the time, 1415 01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:12,527 possibly even now uh, would not let a minor 1416 01:02:12,528 --> 01:02:14,463 stay up and work past midnight, 1417 01:02:14,464 --> 01:02:16,031 and it was, you know, a night scene, 1418 01:02:16,032 --> 01:02:17,566 and the shooting was running long 1419 01:02:17,567 --> 01:02:20,135 based on I don't... Things I wasn't aware of, 1420 01:02:20,136 --> 01:02:22,804 so they just cut that part out of the movie. 1421 01:02:22,805 --> 01:02:24,039 I mean I still got paid and everything, 1422 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,307 'cause I did show up, 1423 01:02:25,308 --> 01:02:26,875 but, you know, it... it was crushing. 1424 01:02:26,876 --> 01:02:28,543 It was like, "Aw, I was really excited 1425 01:02:28,544 --> 01:02:29,412 about doin' this thing. 1426 01:02:29,413 --> 01:02:30,479 It was gonna be fun." 1427 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,848 Shit! He's fucked up. 1428 01:02:32,849 --> 01:02:35,752 Bad language makes for bad feelings. 1429 01:02:36,919 --> 01:02:38,320 Long story short, 1430 01:02:38,321 --> 01:02:40,489 the casting director remembered me, 1431 01:02:40,490 --> 01:02:43,126 and so when RoboCop 2 came around, I was cast in that. 1432 01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:44,594 It's Robo! 1433 01:02:52,401 --> 01:02:54,504 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1434 01:02:59,242 --> 01:03:00,776 I think in some ways as a line 1435 01:03:00,777 --> 01:03:02,544 that captures the spirit of RoboCop, 1436 01:03:02,545 --> 01:03:03,945 "I'd buy that for a dollar" 1437 01:03:03,946 --> 01:03:05,782 is just kind of an amazing little pop line. 1438 01:03:06,616 --> 01:03:08,583 The line that almost is meaningless 1439 01:03:08,584 --> 01:03:09,952 and yet sums it all up. 1440 01:03:10,953 --> 01:03:13,089 I'll buy that for a dollar. 1441 01:03:14,524 --> 01:03:15,957 I'm S.D. Nemeth 1442 01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:18,593 and I play the part of Bixby Snider. 1443 01:03:18,594 --> 01:03:20,228 This was one of the first, 1444 01:03:20,229 --> 01:03:23,732 if not practically the only role I ever auditioned for 1445 01:03:23,733 --> 01:03:25,400 in which I got cast. 1446 01:03:25,401 --> 01:03:27,269 It's not really the right time right now. 1447 01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:29,805 Maybe you can come back a little later on. 1448 01:03:29,806 --> 01:03:31,106 For me, it was a gas. 1449 01:03:31,107 --> 01:03:33,775 It was just actually playing myself. 1450 01:03:33,776 --> 01:03:37,612 I had done a character on radio, on KROQ, 1451 01:03:37,613 --> 01:03:39,748 called The Young Marquis. 1452 01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:42,385 Me your idol, The Young Marquis. 1453 01:03:44,387 --> 01:03:45,754 Special guest tonight. 1454 01:03:45,755 --> 01:03:47,890 Wow, we've got a whole studio full! 1455 01:03:48,291 --> 01:03:50,091 Actually, this Bixby Snider part... 1456 01:03:50,092 --> 01:03:52,060 Bixby, who is this? 1457 01:03:52,061 --> 01:03:53,495 Oh, uh... 1458 01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:54,896 was just The Young Marquis. 1459 01:03:54,897 --> 01:03:55,897 You mean me! 1460 01:03:58,234 --> 01:04:02,237 Except behind a camera and not just a microphone. 1461 01:04:02,238 --> 01:04:04,906 Uh, well, it's a... It's a birthday present. 1462 01:04:04,907 --> 01:04:06,474 Uh, um, someone sent me something 1463 01:04:06,475 --> 01:04:08,743 uh, 'cause it is my birthday. 1464 01:04:08,744 --> 01:04:11,314 Well, look at this. I wonder who could have sent it! 1465 01:04:14,016 --> 01:04:16,785 When I found out that Paul Verhoeven 1466 01:04:16,786 --> 01:04:19,455 was gonna be the director, I was just tickled pink. 1467 01:04:21,490 --> 01:04:23,758 I had rehearsed the scene the night before 1468 01:04:23,759 --> 01:04:25,760 with a tall blonde gal. 1469 01:04:25,761 --> 01:04:27,829 Her name was Heather. 1470 01:04:27,830 --> 01:04:30,832 Happy Birthday, babe. She's from me! 1471 01:04:30,833 --> 01:04:31,833 Oh! 1472 01:04:32,969 --> 01:04:34,603 We got out parts down 1473 01:04:34,604 --> 01:04:37,372 and from then on it was like the Three Stooges. 1474 01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:40,542 Well, hey, can I have you both? 1475 01:04:40,543 --> 01:04:42,844 - Sure, why not? - Sure, why not? 1476 01:04:42,845 --> 01:04:44,605 - We've had our shots. - We've had our shots. 1477 01:04:46,349 --> 01:04:48,384 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1478 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,955 I don't know that any of us ever got that 1479 01:04:53,956 --> 01:04:57,459 that was gonna beco... Become an iconic line. 1480 01:04:57,460 --> 01:04:58,500 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1481 01:04:59,962 --> 01:05:01,363 It was kind of almost a... A sort of mystery 1482 01:05:01,364 --> 01:05:03,531 why... why he was saying it. 1483 01:05:03,532 --> 01:05:06,401 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1484 01:05:06,402 --> 01:05:08,236 Corny, silly. 1485 01:05:08,237 --> 01:05:11,539 It was like... it was like a... A bad commercial at that time 1486 01:05:11,540 --> 01:05:15,076 that didn't necessarily appeal to your sense of humor. 1487 01:05:15,077 --> 01:05:16,811 Oh. Oh. 1488 01:05:16,812 --> 01:05:17,847 - Bixby! - Bixby! 1489 01:05:19,315 --> 01:05:22,183 We had a massive food fight as I recall. 1490 01:05:22,184 --> 01:05:23,985 Showed up on the set, 1491 01:05:23,986 --> 01:05:27,490 and I've never been plastered with cake and frosting so much. 1492 01:05:28,925 --> 01:05:32,727 Some of it is now a merciful blur. 1493 01:05:32,728 --> 01:05:33,728 Wow! 1494 01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:36,666 Wow! Did you see that? 1495 01:05:38,034 --> 01:05:39,734 I gotta go get a piece of this myself! 1496 01:05:39,735 --> 01:05:42,771 It was a pleasure to work with beautiful young girls. 1497 01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:44,340 Ooh, wow! 1498 01:05:46,742 --> 01:05:48,044 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1499 01:05:50,379 --> 01:05:53,049 And with a nice crew, loved it. Loved it. 1500 01:05:55,084 --> 01:05:57,552 It was a real gas, let me tell ya. 1501 01:05:57,553 --> 01:05:59,722 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1502 01:06:06,095 --> 01:06:07,429 It was an extremely long night 1503 01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:10,733 and everything just unfolded. 1504 01:06:12,268 --> 01:06:13,935 Paul Verhoeven, he said, 1505 01:06:13,936 --> 01:06:17,038 "Understand that you're a really good girl 1506 01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:20,442 and you foolishly made a really bad mistake 1507 01:06:20,443 --> 01:06:22,944 of walking down this ally, you know, coming home from work. 1508 01:06:22,945 --> 01:06:24,746 And I'm like, "Okay." 1509 01:06:24,747 --> 01:06:26,915 He goes, "And then you're gonna be attacked. 1510 01:06:26,916 --> 01:06:30,051 So, go all out like a good girl would, you know?" 1511 01:06:30,052 --> 01:06:32,220 And I went, "Okay, so basically that means 'Don't be tough', 1512 01:06:32,221 --> 01:06:33,221 you know?" 1513 01:06:37,393 --> 01:06:41,263 In the movie, I played the Creep. 1514 01:06:41,731 --> 01:06:43,465 Don't touch me! Get away! Get away! 1515 01:06:43,466 --> 01:06:45,400 We don't want your bag! 1516 01:06:45,401 --> 01:06:46,801 We want you! 1517 01:06:46,802 --> 01:06:49,137 Well, first, we have to go back to wardrobe, 1518 01:06:49,138 --> 01:06:52,574 because I chose these stomper boots 1519 01:06:52,575 --> 01:06:55,010 and I couldn't really move. 1520 01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:56,911 And if you can see me, I'm kinda like... 1521 01:06:56,912 --> 01:06:58,247 You know, I'm... 1522 01:07:00,449 --> 01:07:02,350 Take it easy! 1523 01:07:02,351 --> 01:07:04,285 Unknown actors, like we hope to do various roles 1524 01:07:04,286 --> 01:07:07,589 and it was nice to be in the uh, criminal element. 1525 01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:10,358 And I bleached my hair out, 1526 01:07:10,359 --> 01:07:13,762 but the humidity, it lost its kinda cool spike. 1527 01:07:13,763 --> 01:07:15,243 At the time, my hair looked like that. 1528 01:07:16,332 --> 01:07:17,699 Take it easy! We don't wanna hurt you! 1529 01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:19,134 That's too much hair! 1530 01:07:19,135 --> 01:07:22,037 I bought three wigs in case we needed to uh, 1531 01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:23,505 you know, keep cutting, and keep cutting. 1532 01:07:23,506 --> 01:07:24,939 We'll give her a haircut! 1533 01:07:24,940 --> 01:07:25,940 No! 1534 01:07:27,043 --> 01:07:28,209 William had a knife. 1535 01:07:28,210 --> 01:07:29,811 He said, "I'm gonna cut her, 1536 01:07:29,812 --> 01:07:31,846 I'm gonna cut her, you know? I'm gonna cut her hair!" 1537 01:07:31,847 --> 01:07:34,315 And then Paul said, "Yeah!" He got inspired. 1538 01:07:34,316 --> 01:07:37,185 He says, "Yeah, now you point to her crotch 1539 01:07:37,186 --> 01:07:40,288 and you say, "There's more hair down there." 1540 01:07:40,289 --> 01:07:44,826 And he laughed maniacally, and I went "Oh, my God." 1541 01:07:44,827 --> 01:07:47,962 I ca... oh, rea... uh, really? You... you want me to say that? 1542 01:07:47,963 --> 01:07:48,631 Uh... 1543 01:07:48,631 --> 01:07:49,565 What? 1544 01:07:49,566 --> 01:07:51,300 There's more hair down there. 1545 01:07:54,170 --> 01:07:56,738 It was pretty bold at the time, you know? 1546 01:07:56,739 --> 01:07:58,139 I just remember being a little shocked 1547 01:07:58,140 --> 01:07:59,641 as an actor. 1548 01:07:59,642 --> 01:08:01,322 I was like "Whoa! Okay, we're goin' there." 1549 01:08:02,645 --> 01:08:04,079 No! 1550 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,081 Paul is now an inspiration. 1551 01:08:06,082 --> 01:08:08,983 'Cause the second that I come out of that thing, 1552 01:08:08,984 --> 01:08:12,087 Paul is in seventh gear. No waiting, man. 1553 01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:13,755 I'm in a golf cart, a car, or whatever, man, 1554 01:08:13,756 --> 01:08:15,056 I'm in the thing, I got the guns, 1555 01:08:15,057 --> 01:08:16,724 I'm gonna be ready to go. 1556 01:08:16,725 --> 01:08:18,394 I mean, not a second wasted. 1557 01:08:19,195 --> 01:08:21,529 Him and Jost have gone hit the deck. 1558 01:08:21,530 --> 01:08:25,100 RoboCop as a figure should be bigger than life. 1559 01:08:25,101 --> 01:08:26,367 Higher than life. 1560 01:08:26,368 --> 01:08:28,103 Stronger than life. 1561 01:08:28,104 --> 01:08:30,839 That's all what the mystery of RoboCop is about. 1562 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,607 Jost was a brilliant guy. 1563 01:08:32,608 --> 01:08:35,344 I mean, he was doing stuff so far ahead of his time. 1564 01:08:36,178 --> 01:08:37,879 The moment where RoboCop is walking up 1565 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,914 to confront the rapists, 1566 01:08:39,915 --> 01:08:43,551 you see his shadow looming, and getting bigger and bigger. 1567 01:08:43,552 --> 01:08:45,553 Well, in reality, his shadow would be getting smaller 1568 01:08:45,554 --> 01:08:47,222 and smaller. 1569 01:08:47,223 --> 01:08:49,524 So, what they did was have RoboCop walk backwards 1570 01:08:49,525 --> 01:08:51,092 in that sequence. 1571 01:08:51,093 --> 01:08:53,361 Nobody thinks twice about it. 1572 01:08:53,362 --> 01:08:56,397 I worked with the camera in a low position, 1573 01:08:56,398 --> 01:08:59,634 so he seems to be higher than he actually is. 1574 01:08:59,635 --> 01:09:02,471 So, I enlarge him, I stretch him a little bit. 1575 01:09:03,772 --> 01:09:07,308 I had an idea for Robo himself, 1576 01:09:07,309 --> 01:09:09,277 that Robo had to have attitude, 1577 01:09:09,278 --> 01:09:11,646 because he... He became less talkative 1578 01:09:11,647 --> 01:09:13,815 as a character when he became Robo. 1579 01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:16,285 So, we decided we need attitude drones. 1580 01:09:22,458 --> 01:09:23,925 They slightly changed that 1581 01:09:23,926 --> 01:09:25,460 depending on whether he was pissed, 1582 01:09:25,461 --> 01:09:27,228 whether he was relaxed. 1583 01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:30,265 So, it's just another subtle way of moving the story forward. 1584 01:09:30,266 --> 01:09:32,600 Everything you're doing in a film is telling the story, 1585 01:09:32,601 --> 01:09:34,069 and sound effects are no exception. 1586 01:09:34,770 --> 01:09:37,305 Let the woman go. You are under arrest. 1587 01:09:37,306 --> 01:09:38,306 Shit! 1588 01:09:40,276 --> 01:09:43,912 Robo doesn't ever say anything with intentionality for humor. 1589 01:09:43,913 --> 01:09:46,514 He just says things from a position 1590 01:09:46,515 --> 01:09:48,583 of intentionality for instruction. 1591 01:09:48,584 --> 01:09:49,584 That's it. 1592 01:09:49,585 --> 01:09:51,619 The intensity of being picked up 1593 01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:54,756 and waiting for that squib to go off between my legs, 1594 01:09:54,757 --> 01:09:55,757 you know? 1595 01:09:55,758 --> 01:09:57,192 And I can remember very clearly, 1596 01:09:57,193 --> 01:09:59,427 he's grabbing me as hard as he can, 1597 01:09:59,428 --> 01:10:01,462 and picking me up, and back, and up and down, 1598 01:10:01,463 --> 01:10:03,398 and we had to make sure we hit this certain height, 1599 01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:06,434 you know, so it looked appropriate to the gun height. 1600 01:10:06,435 --> 01:10:07,636 He's gonna kill her! 1601 01:10:09,305 --> 01:10:11,506 The climactic moment 1602 01:10:11,507 --> 01:10:13,676 where he uh, gets shot in the bullocks. 1603 01:10:18,948 --> 01:10:21,049 RoboCop shoots him in the crotch. 1604 01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:22,517 People are like, "Yeah, mother fucker, 1605 01:10:22,518 --> 01:10:24,053 you deserved that shit", you know? 1606 01:10:25,621 --> 01:10:27,155 Oh, my... Oh, my God. 1607 01:10:27,156 --> 01:10:29,156 Because I can see the blood squirting out of his... 1608 01:10:32,861 --> 01:10:34,395 By the way, when I saw that with an audience, 1609 01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:36,165 they... the audience went crazy. 1610 01:10:41,003 --> 01:10:42,637 What they did is 1611 01:10:42,638 --> 01:10:43,738 they took one of those very poor sponges, you know, 1612 01:10:43,739 --> 01:10:45,673 the sea sponge type thing, 1613 01:10:45,674 --> 01:10:47,041 and they soaked it in the blood, 1614 01:10:47,042 --> 01:10:48,643 and then they shoved it in his underwear, 1615 01:10:48,644 --> 01:10:50,645 and scored everything. 1616 01:10:50,646 --> 01:10:54,082 And I remember it going off and dropping, and just going, 1617 01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:55,750 "Oh, my God!" And I was so into it. 1618 01:10:55,751 --> 01:10:58,086 What you see is very real of me backing away, 1619 01:10:58,087 --> 01:11:00,489 going like, "Oh, oh, oh", you know? 1620 01:11:02,925 --> 01:11:04,392 Beauty about Robo is 1621 01:11:04,393 --> 01:11:06,160 he's a straight man to the world. 1622 01:11:06,161 --> 01:11:08,830 In other words, Robo just says what's so. 1623 01:11:08,831 --> 01:11:10,531 "Your move, creep." 1624 01:11:10,532 --> 01:11:12,101 Your move, creep. 1625 01:11:13,168 --> 01:11:14,936 Bang, you know? 1626 01:11:14,937 --> 01:11:16,871 No explanation, no fat on that, no icing on the cake. 1627 01:11:16,872 --> 01:11:18,073 That's the deal. 1628 01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:25,346 We all know that Jesus doesn't say much anymore 1629 01:11:25,347 --> 01:11:27,215 after His death. 1630 01:11:27,216 --> 01:11:30,451 And basically, if you look at RoboCop his... his... his... 1631 01:11:30,452 --> 01:11:32,420 The monotony his... of his voice, 1632 01:11:32,421 --> 01:11:34,789 the simplicity of the lines 1633 01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:38,393 correspond really with somebody that is partially, 1634 01:11:38,394 --> 01:11:39,695 you could say, a zombie. 1635 01:11:41,230 --> 01:11:42,764 Thank God. 1636 01:11:42,765 --> 01:11:44,232 Then the woman runs up and throws her arms around, 1637 01:11:44,233 --> 01:11:46,634 and says "thank you", and you get this moment 1638 01:11:46,635 --> 01:11:49,203 where she realizes he's just a machine, 1639 01:11:49,204 --> 01:11:52,707 and he's very cold, and she has this confusion. 1640 01:11:52,708 --> 01:11:54,977 If you watch the film again, you'll see that moment. 1641 01:11:55,377 --> 01:11:57,979 Madam, you have suffered an emotional shock. 1642 01:11:57,980 --> 01:12:00,481 I will notify a rape crisis center. 1643 01:12:00,482 --> 01:12:02,050 And you know, 1644 01:12:02,051 --> 01:12:03,885 there was no reason to stage it like that, 1645 01:12:03,886 --> 01:12:07,422 but it's a really interesting intimate human emotion 1646 01:12:07,423 --> 01:12:09,324 and reaction. 1647 01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:12,493 I knew no matter what happened commercially to RoboCop, 1648 01:12:12,494 --> 01:12:16,130 that man, we were makin' somethin' 1649 01:12:16,131 --> 01:12:17,566 that was speaking! 124921

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