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Narrator:
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups--
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the police
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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( jackhammer pounding )
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Look, getting permits
was hard enough.
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Construction materials
behind the property line.
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You got benefit tickets?
How many you want me to buy?
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Reni, is he
offering us a bribe?
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What the hell are you
trying to do to me?
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Hey, you cops.
Come here!
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We pushed through this
sub-partition wall,
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one of the guys freaks,
seaes this.
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Reni:
It could be an animal.
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Yeah.
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An animal that walks
on two legs and talks.
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Huh.
Call it in, Reni.
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Now.
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Young-- eight, nine.
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What happened?
The kid crawl in and fall?
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Massive skull fracture.
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It doesn't sound like a fall.
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Yeah, more likely hit.
And not a love tap.
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So, boy,
girl, what?
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Male. My guess--
nine years old.
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And he had a JFK for President
button on his jacket.
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Kid's been inside that wall
for 31 years.
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( theme music plays )
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30 years?
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Give or take.
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Who kills
a nine-year-old?
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Kid's fighting.
Something happens.
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Some pervert
waving his flag. Who knows?
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When it's dead kids,
it's usually Mom or Pop.
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Before '74 that building
was owned by a corporation--
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out of business.
No rent roll.
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You want to run with this?
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Missing persons?
Worth a shot.
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Take hand lotion.
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Papercuts-- no computers
before '74.
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All missing children,
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1958 to 1964,
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That's a lot of kids.
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You think that's a lot?
Take any two years from the 80's--
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that many
and then some.
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What happened to them?
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I'll tell you one thing,
they didn't fly out the window
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with Tinkerbell and Peter Pan.
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( yawns )
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Seven years old,
June, 1962,
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disappeared... PS 431,
Staten Island.
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Oh God.
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Time to call
the psychics.
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Keep reading.
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After six hours, | don't even
know what we're looking for.
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You want a Danish
or a cruller?
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You know,
you look at these,
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you think people
misplace their kids
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like they lose umbrellas.
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Uh, give me
a Danish-- strawberry.
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Bingo!
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Male, eight years old.
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Reported missing
October 6, 1962.
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Keegan, Thomas,
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lives across the street--
596 E. 84th Street.
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You got dental records?
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Who were the detectives
on the case?
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Sergeant Dominick
McFadden,
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and Detective Joe Shelby.
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Terrific.
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Listen, an old
case of yours--
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Tony DeCecco--
| saw in the papers.
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His brother got whacked.
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Missing child, 1962.
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Keegan,
eight years old,
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brown hair,
green eyes, 4'4",
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scar over his left eye.
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Fell on the concrete
steps when he was six.
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You sound like you
just read the file.
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You ever do
a missing kid?
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Yeah, my partner, Shelby,
retired to Florida.
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Once, twice a year,
he used to call about it.
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Couldn't let it alone.
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Good detective.
Prostate cancer--
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only 68.
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Case alive again?
We found the kid.
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Logan:
Bones in the basement of a building.
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Same block
as the kid lived on.
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Yeah, we figured somebody
in the neighborhood.
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You got a gay couple
in the file?
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My notes should have
been in there.
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Two guys--
30s, 405--
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lived on the block.
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Connors, Conway,
something like that.
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The other guy--
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some German name.
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Couldn't make the case?
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Uh, father was dead.
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You find the mother?
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Yeah, she was a teacher.
High school, West Side.
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Teachers now,
they take early retirement.
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20 years, move to the house
in Woodstock, never look back.
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Keegan, Beverly.
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Doris.
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- (keyboard taps )
- Okay.
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Keegan, Doris,
retired last year, full pension.
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Address?
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718 Penrose,
Fort Lee, New Jersey.
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When Tommy disappeared,
that was hard.
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But you know
what was even harder?
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When | gave up hope.
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Every once in a while
| figure out how old he'd be.
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What would he be doing? Hmm.
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Married maybe?
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Kids of his own--
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my grandchildren.
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Do you remember
who lived at 583?
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It's been a long time.
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About that day...?
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| was getting
my masters degree.
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| left class.
| went to get Tommy.
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He was in the schoolyard.
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He said he was going
to play with his friends.
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| didn't give him a kiss.
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| didn't want
to embarrass him.
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| never saw him again.
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Did anybody walk
him home that day?
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Hospitals,
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all the kids’ parents,
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the police, | called.
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It took me
years to move.
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Well, | wanted to be there.
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He might come home.
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Mrs. Keegan...
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the two men
who lived on that block?
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The ones the police suspected?
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Did they do it?
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Do you remember
their names?
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No.
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| thought I'd never forget them.
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But after a while | realized
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if you Keep remembering,
you can't live.
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Yeah, yeah, thanks.
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No reverse phone
directories before '65.
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If we're going to find out
who lived in that building
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we're going to have
to knock on a lot of doors.
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Yeah, you have an address?
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Thank you.
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Okay, 1962,
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Con Ed had one account
in the building.
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Now there's a different address, still
active.
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Carl Lawler, Perry Street.
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It was our first apartment.
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- God, it was small.
- Barely room for a bed.
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The police came
that night.
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We were at work.
We couldn't tell them anything.
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Who else lived
in the building?
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Carl:
Nice couple in the duplex. They had a daughter.
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You knew them, hon.
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Yeah, he was
in insurance.
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Messimer, Catherine Messimer.
| don't remember his name.
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What about the other
apartment on your floor?
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Uh, Dorfman and Conover.
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Not married?
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Two men-- a couple,
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We wondered, but we thought it was awful
to suspect them at first.
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Have you
seen them since?
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Herald House-- the publisher.
That's where they worked.
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Ed Conover was an editor.
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They used to bring us
books sometimes.
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| don't know how
you'd find them now.
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They'd be, what,
70, 75
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Logan:
It's like chasing ghosts.
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30 years,
people disappear.
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Dorfman, one of the two guys,
died nine years ago.
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Conover left,
publisher's got no record.
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A lot of Conovers
in the book, but not our Ed.
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- Yellow sheets?
- Cerreta: You were hoping maybe for armed robbery?
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- Nothing.
- Find the other couple. Maybe they know.
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Messimer,
no current listing.
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Our friends at the phone company,
let's go see them.
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Logan:
Plaza 5.
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Butterfield 8.
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Elizabeth Taylor
and Eddie Fisher.
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Numbers still had hames
in those days, huh?
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My parents were Lexington 2,
my uncle was Chelsea 3.
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Here's '67 and '68.
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Thank you.
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Messimer, Thad,
still lived there in '65.
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Notin '67.
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391 Central Park West.
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Messimer's gone
ages ago.
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What did the Lawlers say?
He worked in insurance?
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Great, there's only a couple
of thousand insurance agents.
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The daughter--
she could tell you.
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They gave her the apartment.
Miss Atkinson, 14A.
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Atkinson is my
ex-husband’s name. | kept it.
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You grew up
on East 84th Street?
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Yes.
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This little boy,
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Tommy Keegan.
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Do you remember him?
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For years after
he disappeared
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| was afraid to go outside
without my parents.
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Eight years old and still
holding a grown-up's hand.
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You okay?
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Yeah, I'm fine.
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Excuse me, | need
a glass of water.
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( glass breaks )
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The paramedic can
be here in a minute.
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Honestly, no.
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Just looking at the picture
| felt sick,
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thinking how
Tommy died.
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Everybody assumed,
| mean--
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it was logical
he was murdered.
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Wasn't he?
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Why are you asking
about him now?
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We found his remains
in the basement
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of the building
you grew up in.
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Oh my God.
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Can you remember
anything about that day?
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The police talked to me
after he disappeared.
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We must have
played together.
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I'm sure | saw him, but...
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it's very long ago.
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Did you know the two men
who lived on the fourth floor?
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Their names were Dorfman
and Conover.
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I'm sorry.
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| think they gave
Tommy some books.
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Do you think your
parents might remember?
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They moved out of the city
to Harrison.
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They bought a house.
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In the basement?
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No wonder she fainted.
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Catherine:
Maybe we should call her.
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It was terrible.
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You realized it could
be your own child.
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Yes.
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- The couple upstairs?
- Thad: The Lawlers.
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Carl and...
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what was her name,
Julia, Jane?
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The other couple.
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Oh, in those days we didn't
call them a couple.
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We wouldn't want
to speak ill of them,
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the way they were, but--
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Tell them, Thad.
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Six months later,
the younger one--
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what was his hame?
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Conover, Ed.
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Thad:
He worked for a youth group.
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Church on 93rd.
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St. Lucius.
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We heard...
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he approached the boy.
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Man:
The boy who made the accusation,
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he was trouble.
| felt he was...
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He had heard about
the other incidents,
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was wanting attention.
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So you think
Conover was innocent?
262
00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:04,218
In the case
of the missing boy?
263
00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:06,804
He was never charged--
264
00:14:06,971 --> 00:14:09,223
my understanding of the law,
that makes him innocent.
265
00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:13,311
Reverend, why don't you try
not to judge us, save us little trouble?
266
00:14:13,478 --> 00:14:16,189
He was a good counselor
to those Kids.
267
00:14:16,356 --> 00:14:19,150
But in most people's eyes,
a lot of them,
268
00:14:19,317 --> 00:14:20,735
he was automatically guilty.
269
00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:22,820
Are you still
in touch with him?
270
00:14:24,322 --> 00:14:28,159
30 years ago, suspicion almost
destroyed Conover's life.
271
00:14:28,326 --> 00:14:30,953
- Do you want to put him through that again?
- If he's guilty, yes.
272
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,248
- If he's innocent?
- As you said, he survived it once.
273
00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:38,127
Three blocks away.
Carrington Nursing Home.
274
00:14:39,253 --> 00:14:41,923
But you did know
the Keegan kid?
275
00:14:42,90 --> 00:14:44,675
You think | don't know
what you're thinking?
276
00:14:44,842 --> 00:14:47,387
All gays molest kids.
277
00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:51,432
| think you will find that cops Know most
child molesters are straight.
278
00:14:51,599 --> 00:14:53,684
So why don't you just
help us out here?
279
00:14:54,60 --> 00:14:55,853
| don't have to tell you
one damn thing.
280
00:14:56,20 --> 00:14:57,688
No, you don't,
but we could get a subpoena.
281
00:14:57,855 --> 00:15:00,24
And | get a lawyer.
282
00:15:00,191 --> 00:15:02,26
Let's talk
about the basement.
283
00:15:02,193 --> 00:15:03,694
You want the truth?
284
00:15:03,861 --> 00:15:06,197
Tommy...
285
00:15:06,364 --> 00:15:09,617
we took him down there,
tortured him, killed him.
286
00:15:09,784 --> 00:15:11,828
Used to do one a week.
287
00:15:11,994 --> 00:15:14,539
You're a laugh riot, Mr. Conover.
288
00:15:14,705 --> 00:15:16,374
You know what else
isn't funny?
289
00:15:16,541 --> 00:15:18,793
You. Go to hell!
290
00:15:23,297 --> 00:15:25,800
70, last time we did
one that old,
291
00:15:25,967 --> 00:15:28,177
it was a Nazi for the INS.
292
00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:30,304
I'd say this one'd be
about as easy to convict.
293
00:15:30,471 --> 00:15:32,181
You got his name
on the ace of spades?
294
00:15:32,348 --> 00:15:34,851
He had access to the basement
and he knew the Keegan kid.
295
00:15:35,17 --> 00:15:36,519
| mentioned him
to Julie Atkinson,
296
00:15:36,686 --> 00:15:39,230
she got a funny look on her face.
She fogged all up.
297
00:15:39,397 --> 00:15:41,941
So? Are you saying
she knows he killed the kid
298
00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:43,526
but she’s trying
to protect him? Why?
299
00:15:43,693 --> 00:15:45,486
How did Conover react?
300
00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:47,321
Logan:
He told us to go to heil.
301
00:15:47,488 --> 00:15:50,199
Well, at least he's
got a way with words. Ideas?
302
00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:52,76
Let's see what Atkinson
comes up with.
303
00:15:52,243 --> 00:15:53,661
Place him at the scene.
304
00:15:53,828 --> 00:15:56,622
Thanks.
305
00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:59,792
| don’t understand.
The case must be closed by now.
306
00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:02,420
Well, there's no statute
of limitations on homicide.
307
00:16:02,587 --> 00:16:05,214
But you told me you didn’t
know if it was murder.
308
00:16:05,381 --> 00:16:07,175
That's why we'd like you
to come down
309
00:16:07,341 --> 00:16:09,93
and spend a couple of hours
going over everything that happened.
310
00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:12,13
You know, a lead
can come from anywhere.
311
00:16:13,55 --> 00:16:14,515
I'm sorry.
312
00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:16,601
It's a busy time of year.
313
00:16:16,767 --> 00:16:18,519
Okay.
314
00:16:18,686 --> 00:16:21,397
Kid's been dead
for 30 years.
315
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,985
One more abandoned case.
316
00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:29,155
Nobody really cares now
except the mother.
317
00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,159
Thanks anyway.
318
00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:44,504
Me? | can’t contact her.
It's improper.
319
00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:46,339
We pushed her.
It didn't work.
320
00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:48,49
It's not only improper,
it's ineffective.
321
00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:49,550
The woman
has to trust me.
322
00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:51,928
I'll tell you something,
if we don't get Conover,
323
00:16:52,94 --> 00:16:54,388
we can bury those bones
in the case along with it.
324
00:16:54,555 --> 00:16:56,516
Logan,
woman asking for you.
325
00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:03,64
Hey.
326
00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:07,485
You said | could help.
327
00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:09,487
Yeah, listen,
328
00:17:09,654 --> 00:17:11,489
thanks for coming by.
329
00:17:11,656 --> 00:17:13,991
There's someone
I'd like you to meet.
330
00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:21,165
Miss Atkinson,
this is Dr. Olivet.
331
00:17:21,332 --> 00:17:24,377
She's a police
department psychiatrist.
332
00:17:24,544 --> 00:17:26,629
Hi.
333
00:17:28,673 --> 00:17:30,716
Hi.
334
00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:34,428
For the first hour she didn't remember
even seeing the boy.
335
00:17:34,595 --> 00:17:37,98
- Logan: What about Conover?
- Nothing.
336
00:17:37,265 --> 00:17:39,642
She has this
recurrent image--
337
00:17:39,809 --> 00:17:41,477
red and bilue.
338
00:17:41,644 --> 00:17:43,104
She came back
to it twice
339
00:17:43,271 --> 00:17:44,981
but she doesn't
know what it means.
340
00:17:45,147 --> 00:17:46,941
What was
the Keegan kid wearing?
341
00:17:48,109 --> 00:17:51,112
Green shirt, khakis,
black sneakers.
342
00:17:52,613 --> 00:17:54,240
How screwed up is she?
343
00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:56,117
I'd say severely.
344
00:17:56,284 --> 00:17:58,786
And she says
she never saw a shrink?
345
00:17:58,953 --> 00:18:01,706
She also says she's basically
a happy person.
346
00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:03,833
What about hypnosis?
347
00:18:04,00 --> 00:18:07,295
Unreliable and almost
impossible to get admitted in court.
348
00:18:07,461 --> 00:18:10,840
Well, not if she doesn't
implicate herself.
349
00:18:11,07 --> 00:18:14,302
If she gives us a lead and we corroborate it,
we don't need her in court.
350
00:18:14,468 --> 00:18:16,220
Yeah, but we put her under,
351
00:18:16,387 --> 00:18:18,222
and then we end up
needing her,
352
00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,391
we'll never get her
on the stand.
353
00:18:20,558 --> 00:18:22,727
- Is she coming back?
- We opened a vein.
354
00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:24,979
She might want to close it.
355
00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:27,481
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
356
00:18:27,648 --> 00:18:30,985
My feeling--
she wants to know.
357
00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:33,654
Any idea what this
red and blue is?
358
00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:35,740
Your guess is
as good as mine.
359
00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:41,787
Red and blue?
You're joking.
360
00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:44,624
In a murder investigation
| don't go for laughs.
361
00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:46,542
Well, it could be anything.
362
00:18:46,709 --> 00:18:49,920
Clothes, toys,
the American flag.
363
00:18:50,87 --> 00:18:51,672
The day the boy
was missing,
364
00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:54,550
do you remember
if anything...
365
00:18:54,717 --> 00:18:56,886
unusual happened to Julie?
366
00:18:57,53 --> 00:18:58,679
An ordinary night.
367
00:18:58,846 --> 00:19:00,431
| had a PTA meeting.
368
00:19:00,598 --> 00:19:02,725
| came home from work,
| put Julie to bed.
369
00:19:02,892 --> 00:19:04,393
She had a cold.
370
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,563
If you could persuade her
to talk to us again--
371
00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:09,732
We--
372
00:19:09,899 --> 00:19:12,234
| don’t know
if we could convince her.
373
00:19:12,401 --> 00:19:15,738
Our psychiatrist feels
that Julie may know something,
374
00:19:15,905 --> 00:19:17,406
though not consciously.
375
00:19:17,573 --> 00:19:19,950
We're not telling Julie
to do something
376
00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:22,662
she doesn't want to do.
377
00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:25,706
Dad says | had a cold,
I'm sure he's right.
378
00:19:25,873 --> 00:19:28,209
Beautiful plants, orchids.
379
00:19:28,376 --> 00:19:30,378
But they need a lot of care.
380
00:19:30,544 --> 00:19:32,922
Maybe you could
give us another hour?
381
00:19:33,714 --> 00:19:37,301
Detective, if you could say
an eight-year-old has a boyfriend,
382
00:19:37,468 --> 00:19:39,178
mine was Tommy.
But | can't help you.
383
00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:42,556
Julie, the red
and the blue you mentioned.
384
00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:46,102
You asked me to meet
with Dr. Olivet, | did.
385
00:19:46,268 --> 00:19:48,729
Mrs. Atkinson,
a little boy died.
386
00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:50,356
30 years ago.
387
00:19:50,523 --> 00:19:51,982
That's right.
388
00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,943
But what if it
had been yesterday?
389
00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:57,530
Will you do us a favor?
Will you try again?
390
00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:59,907
Just one more shot.
391
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,871
Olivet:
Did you come here with Tommy
the day he disappeared?
392
00:20:06,38 --> 00:20:09,208
On the way
home from school.
393
00:20:09,375 --> 00:20:11,335
And then
you started walking?
394
00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,46
| hid the candy...
395
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:18,08
because Daddy didn't like me
to eat them before dinner.
396
00:20:18,175 --> 00:20:20,511
And Tommy
had a baseball.
397
00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:22,388
No, a football.
398
00:20:22,555 --> 00:20:25,57
And he kept
throwing it to Ed.
399
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:27,59
Conover was with you?
400
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,729
No. He was just
sitting on the stoop
401
00:20:29,895 --> 00:20:32,606
when we got to the house.
| hated that.
402
00:20:32,773 --> 00:20:35,443
What did you hate?
403
00:20:35,609 --> 00:20:37,403
When he'd sit
on the stoop.
404
00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,363
I'd always have
to walk around him.
405
00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:41,657
Did he say anything?
406
00:20:41,824 --> 00:20:44,410
No, he just--
407
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:46,412
| don't know.
408
00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:48,289
It made me
feel creepy
409
00:20:48,456 --> 00:20:50,499
and uncomfortable.
410
00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:52,752
And then what happened?
411
00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:54,545
We went into the house.
412
00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:03,95
My room was
right over here.
413
00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:10,686
My toy chest was
always by the door.
414
00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:14,523
Do you remember
having dinner that night?
415
00:21:15,983 --> 00:21:18,444
My mom probably
left something.
416
00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:20,112
She always did
when she wasn't home.
417
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,615
And then you got sick
418
00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:24,492
and you went to bed?
419
00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:28,954
My pajamas were always hanging
on the back of the door.
420
00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:33,250
| had to go
to the bathroom.
421
00:21:33,417 --> 00:21:37,04
| wanted to brush my teeth.
422
00:21:38,255 --> 00:21:39,965
Yeah, the bathroom...
423
00:21:40,132 --> 00:21:42,718
was right down here.
424
00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:54,271
Oh...
425
00:21:54,438 --> 00:21:56,690
ho.
426
00:21:56,857 --> 00:21:59,68
( sobs )
Oh my God.
427
00:21:59,235 --> 00:22:01,278
What is it, Julie?
428
00:22:01,445 --> 00:22:04,114
Oh, oh!
429
00:22:04,281 --> 00:22:06,659
The blue and the red.
430
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,994
What's blue and red?
431
00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:11,80
The sweater.
432
00:22:11,247 --> 00:22:13,40
What sweater?
433
00:22:13,207 --> 00:22:15,876
Daddy's sweater.
434
00:22:16,43 --> 00:22:19,463
He's washing it out
here in the tub
435
00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:23,217
and it's all covered
436
00:22:23,384 --> 00:22:25,386
with blood.
437
00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:28,138
( sobs )
438
00:22:32,768 --> 00:22:36,230
A daughter, some bones
in a basement, and that's it?
439
00:22:36,397 --> 00:22:38,23
I'll bet anything
Dad’s a kinko.
440
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:39,942
And no record.
441
00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:41,986
The shrink believes
the daughter.
442
00:22:42,152 --> 00:22:45,155
Indict him, maybe he wets his pants
and confesses.
443
00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:48,284
And maybe he hits the city
with a false arrest charge,
444
00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:50,661
and the Attorney General
has to settle with him.
445
00:22:50,828 --> 00:22:53,247
I'm Messimer.
| got a 65-year-old wife,
446
00:22:53,414 --> 00:22:55,291
a daughter who's not
talking to me,
447
00:22:55,457 --> 00:22:57,835
and I'm possibly facing
25 years-to-life. What do | do?
448
00:22:58,02 --> 00:23:02,464
You go to Costa Rica and you drink pifia coladas
with 20-year-old bimbos.
449
00:23:02,631 --> 00:23:05,384
Pick him up.
Take his passport.
450
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,515
1 want to talk with Olivet.
451
00:23:13,809 --> 00:23:16,353
I'm not saying she's
a picture of mental health.
452
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,314
She's not committable?
453
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,441
From what | can tell,
454
00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:24,194
this father jerked this woman
around like a yo-yo,
455
00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:27,156
bartered affection,
controlled her like a robot.
456
00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:29,158
But she's functional.
457
00:23:30,326 --> 00:23:31,911
Building a case on her,
458
00:23:32,77 --> 00:23:34,496
it's a thin tightrope, no net.
459
00:23:34,663 --> 00:23:36,957
I've been wrong--
not this time.
460
00:23:38,667 --> 00:23:41,337
- You want to take a pass on this?
- Not if he did it.
461
00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,172
She's telling the truth.
462
00:23:43,339 --> 00:23:45,925
And as a withess?
463
00:23:46,91 --> 00:23:47,927
The jury might not
believe her.
464
00:23:48,93 --> 00:23:49,803
What are we
talking about?
465
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:51,680
She'll fall apart
on the stand?
466
00:23:51,847 --> 00:23:54,266
Anything's possible.
467
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,518
Stone:
We're just trying to make you understand
468
00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:58,312
that being a witness
won't be easy.
469
00:23:58,479 --> 00:24:00,814
Being me isn't easy,
withess or otherwise.
470
00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:02,566
Please, Mrs. Atkinson,
471
00:24:02,733 --> 00:24:04,276
pretend you're the jury.
472
00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:07,696
What do you see?
A child attacking her parents.
473
00:24:11,33 --> 00:24:13,911
Robinette:
How long have you beenestranged from them?
474
00:24:14,78 --> 00:24:15,955
When | was 28,
475
00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:17,831
| moved to Chicago.
476
00:24:17,998 --> 00:24:19,875
| got married,
| got divorced.
477
00:24:20,42 --> 00:24:22,127
| came home,
my father said, "told you so."
478
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:24,254
Then | moved
to San Francisco.
479
00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:27,299
| got married, | got divorced,
and | came home.
480
00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:30,302
My father said, "When are you going
to learn to listen to me?"
481
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,304
Two years ago,
482
00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:34,598
the last time
| came home,
483
00:24:34,765 --> 00:24:36,767
| stopped
talking to my father.
484
00:24:36,934 --> 00:24:38,978
| didn't know why then.
485
00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,231
Now I'm beginning
to understand it all.
486
00:24:42,398 --> 00:24:44,900
My concern is not
only for you.
487
00:24:45,67 --> 00:24:47,695
We prosecute your father,
it falls apart,
488
00:24:47,861 --> 00:24:49,613
we look irresponsible.
489
00:24:49,780 --> 00:24:51,824
| told you I'll testify.
490
00:24:51,991 --> 00:24:55,202
You're going to be portrayed
in the media and the courtroom
491
00:24:55,369 --> 00:24:58,330
as an unhappy, overwrought,
vindictive daughter.
492
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:01,500
Maybe I'm not the happiest
person in the world.
493
00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:04,03
Maybe | won't be.
494
00:25:05,921 --> 00:25:08,757
But I'll survive.
495
00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:19,727
She imagined this,
Mr. Stone.
496
00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:21,937
We have an obligation
to investigate.
497
00:25:22,104 --> 00:25:24,106
At the expense
of my client's reputation?
498
00:25:24,273 --> 00:25:26,400
This man has led
an exemplary life.
499
00:25:26,567 --> 00:25:29,236
Or he hasn't,
and nobody caught him.
500
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:33,741
You can't believe | killed
an eight-year-old child.
501
00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:35,701
We do love
our daughter,
502
00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:38,537
but Julie's
had difficulties.
503
00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:40,622
Lawyer:
This gets out of hand,
504
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:42,958
you're risking a suit
for malicious prosecution.
505
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:45,377
If we feel we have a case,
we have to take the risk.
506
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,546
What about
the risk to Julie?
507
00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:49,339
What's happening here
508
00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:51,08
is an abuse of the system,
509
00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:52,801
an abuse of your office,
510
00:25:52,968 --> 00:25:55,220
and an abuse of my daughter.
511
00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:57,973
And an abuse of a child,
Tommy Keegan.
512
00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:00,350
Thad.
513
00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:02,853
If | read about this
in the papers,
514
00:26:03,20 --> 00:26:04,605
if you try to smear me--
515
00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:07,733
Catherine.
516
00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:16,992
Try to keep
it out of the papers.
517
00:26:17,159 --> 00:26:20,79
A civil suit could be
very messy in an election year.
518
00:26:23,791 --> 00:26:25,417
What have you got?
519
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,961
Genuine Life and Casualty.
520
00:26:28,128 --> 00:26:30,672
He got fired,
they won't discuss it.
521
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:34,93
I'll have Adam
talk with them.
522
00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:36,220
Are you doubting
he killed the kid?
523
00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:40,974
If | did, I'm doubting a lot less.
524
00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:45,604
Robinette:
Vice president back then?
525
00:26:45,771 --> 00:26:48,23
You must have been
pretty young.
526
00:26:48,190 --> 00:26:50,859
How well did you
know Messimer?
527
00:26:51,26 --> 00:26:53,278
You understand
this is off the record?
528
00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:55,948
Subpoena me,
| won't repeat it under oath.
529
00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:57,533
| don't want to be sued.
530
00:26:57,699 --> 00:26:59,701
Messimer.
531
00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:02,371
Not a water cooler man.
532
00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:04,248
Kept to himself.
533
00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:06,208
But you fired him
personally?
534
00:27:07,835 --> 00:27:10,712
A couple of meetings,
major clients, you couldn't see it,
535
00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:14,174
but let's just say the mints didn't
cover the smell.
536
00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:16,260
He kept getting jobs.
537
00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:18,720
Some men drown in booze,
538
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:20,681
some swim in it.
539
00:27:20,848 --> 00:27:22,766
Who knew him well?
540
00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:25,769
He had a buddy--
Gil Lindon.
541
00:27:25,936 --> 00:27:28,188
Fired him, too.
542
00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:30,774
They never said fired.
543
00:27:30,941 --> 00:27:32,734
Not to your face, no.
544
00:27:32,901 --> 00:27:35,195
They called it
"mutual termination.”
545
00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:37,406
Tell me,
546
00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:39,283
is Messimer
in trouble, huh?
547
00:27:39,449 --> 00:27:42,286
Was his a mutual
termination, too?
548
00:27:42,452 --> 00:27:45,789
That man could sell
fire insurance to Eskimos,
549
00:27:45,956 --> 00:27:47,833
even putting away
three or four at lunch.
550
00:27:48,00 --> 00:27:50,43
He have any other problems?
551
00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:51,587
What do they say?
552
00:27:51,753 --> 00:27:53,589
Too late we grow smart.
553
00:27:53,755 --> 00:27:55,883
We drank.
554
00:27:56,49 --> 00:27:59,720
| took the 12 steps out of the bar. It's history.
555
00:27:59,887 --> 00:28:01,805
Grow smart now, Mr. Lindon.
556
00:28:04,558 --> 00:28:06,351
Tell me something,
557
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:09,897
what did Messimer do?
Kids?
558
00:28:12,983 --> 00:28:16,278
You know, right before
we were "mutually terminated,”
559
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:18,780
we were coming back
from a client.
560
00:28:18,947 --> 00:28:20,908
Train station, Stanford.
561
00:28:21,74 --> 00:28:23,619
Thad goes into the can,
doesn't come back.
562
00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,413
| go in after him,
there's a cop in there.
563
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:29,666
Some kid, 14, 15,
564
00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:34,87
says Messimer
made a pass.
565
00:28:34,963 --> 00:28:38,50
That gives you motive.
He molested Tommy, then killed him.
566
00:28:38,217 --> 00:28:40,93
The Connecticut records
still there?
567
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,95
Sealed.
Get it unsealed.
568
00:28:42,262 --> 00:28:44,97
Charges were dropped.
569
00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:45,682
| sent up
a "show cause" order.
570
00:28:45,849 --> 00:28:48,101
Boy's hame,
Joseph Kelly.
571
00:28:48,268 --> 00:28:50,312
He's an administrator
at Mercy Hospital.
572
00:28:50,479 --> 00:28:52,606
Go see him.
573
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,108
It wasn't just him,
574
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,110
| must have
given him the eye.
575
00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:59,71
| probably wanted him
to come onto me.
576
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:01,323
The case never
went to trail.
577
00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:03,951
My parents suspected | was gay.
578
00:29:04,117 --> 00:29:06,328
It comes out I'm hanging around
the station--
579
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:07,955
the neighbors hear about it, well--
580
00:29:08,121 --> 00:29:10,749
So they said
you wouldn't testify?
581
00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:12,960
When | was in my 20s,
| went to a shrink.
582
00:29:13,126 --> 00:29:16,505
He said guys like that,
it's not about sex.
583
00:29:16,672 --> 00:29:18,465
It's about power.
584
00:29:18,632 --> 00:29:21,343
Lots of them don't even
care if it's boys or girls,
585
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:23,512
just somebody
they could control.
586
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:26,390
Mr. Kelly,
587
00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:28,350
do you remember exactly
what Messimer did?
588
00:29:28,517 --> 00:29:30,727
Offered me 20 bucks.
589
00:29:30,894 --> 00:29:32,479
| almost said yes.
590
00:29:32,646 --> 00:29:35,774
Something in his eyes,
591
00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:37,943
aven a kid can tell.
592
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:40,70
When | turned him down
593
00:29:40,237 --> 00:29:41,989
he got real upset.
594
00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:44,908
Grabbed my arm,
said 50 bucks.
595
00:29:45,75 --> 00:29:48,662
The more | said no,
the crazier he looked.
596
00:29:48,829 --> 00:29:51,331
Yes, well,
that's all very interesting,
597
00:29:51,498 --> 00:29:53,41
and useless at trial.
598
00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:55,02
Messimer wasn't
convicted of anything.
599
00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:58,338
- I'll bring it in somehow.
- What, pattern crime?
600
00:29:58,505 --> 00:30:00,132
It's not even close,
601
00:30:00,299 --> 00:30:01,842
Even if he
had been convicted,
602
00:30:02,09 --> 00:30:03,802
this isn't Palm Beach.
603
00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:05,721
You can't use
previous history.
604
00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,973
And without it,
you can't prove motive,
605
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,267
They've got to open
the character issue,
606
00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:11,768
then we can bring in Kelly.
607
00:30:11,935 --> 00:30:14,813
Messimer's reputation
as a totally respectable citizen
608
00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:16,565
is their only card.
609
00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:19,67
What's the operating
principle here?
610
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:22,863
Doug Greer is a fool?
Messimer is stupid?
611
00:30:23,30 --> 00:30:24,656
Guaranteed he told
Doug about this.
612
00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:27,34
They're not going to bring in
any character withesses?
613
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,827
Schiff:
He won't defend himself.
614
00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:31,371
20-to-one he never
tries to make a case.
615
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:35,834
How many times he did it
we'll never know about.
616
00:30:36,01 --> 00:30:38,879
Maybe you molest once
and never again,
617
00:30:39,46 --> 00:30:41,715
but twice, it's a compulsion.
We've got to nail him.
618
00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:43,884
( phone buzzes )
619
00:30:44,51 --> 00:30:46,470
Let me have that, will you?
620
00:30:46,636 --> 00:30:49,389
Thanks.
Yeah?
621
00:30:49,556 --> 00:30:52,559
Hmmm.
622
00:30:52,726 --> 00:30:55,645
Yes.
623
00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:57,731
It's Olivet.
624
00:30:57,898 --> 00:31:00,984
Mother got to Julie.
She doesn't want to testify.
625
00:31:04,112 --> 00:31:05,655
( heavy sigh )
Oh, man.
626
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,703
Liz, can you
bring her in?
627
00:31:14,414 --> 00:31:16,291
Okay, two hours.
628
00:31:16,458 --> 00:31:19,211
| Know what | told you.
| made a mistake.
629
00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:22,756
And what did
your mother say?
630
00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:25,425
My memories
must be mixed up.
631
00:31:25,592 --> 00:31:30,97
She says my father loves me
and can't believe I'm doing this to him.
632
00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:32,224
( knocking )
633
00:31:37,687 --> 00:31:40,273
Stone:
You two may remember each other.
634
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:45,695
Mrs. Keegan.
635
00:31:45,862 --> 00:31:48,615
You look wonderful, Julie.
636
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,453
Mrs. Keegan, I--
637
00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:55,622
| need your help.
638
00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:58,125
I] can't.
639
00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:00,127
He killed Tommy.
640
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:02,546
Olivet:
Julie, your father can't hurt you anymore.
641
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:06,258
The only power he has over you
is the power you give him.
642
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,593
Please.
643
00:32:16,685 --> 00:32:18,812
Docket number 45721,
644
00:32:18,979 --> 00:32:20,772
the People versus
Thaddeus Messimer.
645
00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:22,816
The charge is murder
in the second degree.
646
00:32:22,983 --> 00:32:25,610
Is the defendant ready
to enter a plea?
647
00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:27,612
Not guilty.
648
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:29,322
Judge:
Mr. Robinette?
649
00:32:29,489 --> 00:32:32,576
Your Honor, the defendant's
acohomic situation
650
00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:34,578
allows for the real
possibility of flight.
651
00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:37,414
The People request
$500,000 bail
652
00:32:37,581 --> 00:32:40,333
and that the defendant
surrender his passport.
653
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:43,03
Your Honor, the prosecutor's
information is so...
654
00:32:43,170 --> 00:32:45,88
shall we say perfunctory,
655
00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:46,840
the People's request
sagms extreme.
656
00:32:47,07 --> 00:32:51,636
Mr. Greer, your client will surrender his
passport to the clerk.
657
00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:54,389
Your Honor, we have no objection.
But in that case, bail--
658
00:32:54,556 --> 00:32:57,100
$300,000,
half in cash,
659
00:32:57,267 --> 00:32:59,895
half secured bond.
Next.
660
00:33:00,61 --> 00:33:01,813
This has gone too far.
661
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:03,690
The caseis
preposterous, Ben.
662
00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:05,775
Anybody could have
broken into that house.
663
00:33:05,942 --> 00:33:08,987
Wait a minute,
you kill a child,
664
00:33:09,154 --> 00:33:12,32
drag him to a stranger’s house,
stick him in a wall?
665
00:33:12,199 --> 00:33:14,75
I'm filing a motion
for dismissal.
666
00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:16,36
We're presenting
to the grand jury.
667
00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:17,370
I'll file to quash.
668
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:20,207
My daughter...
669
00:33:20,373 --> 00:33:22,209
is a lovely,
sweeet woman
670
00:33:22,375 --> 00:33:26,129
who is very disturbed.
Don't make her worse.
671
00:33:26,296 --> 00:33:29,07
Stop manipulating her,
maybe she'll feel better.
672
00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:31,134
And disturbed or not,
a jury will believe her.
673
00:33:31,301 --> 00:33:33,345
Do you know what a trial
does to this man's life?
674
00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:35,138
Spare him the horror.
675
00:33:35,305 --> 00:33:37,390
Manslaughter one,
eight and a third-to-25.
676
00:33:37,557 --> 00:33:38,683
You can't be serious.
677
00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:40,644
A 30-year-old crime,
678
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:43,104
and a case that doesn't
dignify the word evidence?
679
00:33:43,271 --> 00:33:45,524
Doug, there is nothing
dignified about this case.
680
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,527
Not the evidence, not the crime,
not the defendant.
681
00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:55,909
Your key witness--
| wouldn't count on her.
682
00:33:56,76 --> 00:33:58,370
You know where she took her
summer vacation last year?
683
00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:01,206
Bellevue--
the psychiatric ward.
684
00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,797
Every word,
your memories,
685
00:34:08,964 --> 00:34:10,757
your attitude toward
your parents--
686
00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:12,759
all of it comes into question.
687
00:34:12,926 --> 00:34:16,263
I'm sorry.
A psychiatric ward
is embarrassing.
688
00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:19,224
A trial can be embarrassing.
Not just to your father, to you.
689
00:34:19,391 --> 00:34:21,268
| can handle it.
690
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:24,479
It was a transient episode.
She was there three weeks.
691
00:34:24,646 --> 00:34:26,940
The jury hears words
like paranoia,
692
00:34:27,107 --> 00:34:29,192
suicidal depression--
693
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:31,736
they are there
to be judgmental.
694
00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:34,406
My breakdown helped me.
695
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:37,617
Everything | kept inside
started to come out.
696
00:34:37,784 --> 00:34:40,620
Julie, if there is anything
alse he should know...
697
00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,539
And for your sake.
698
00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:45,417
My father's on trial,
hot me.
699
00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:47,627
The credibility
of your testimony
700
00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:49,838
is what is on trial.
701
00:34:50,05 --> 00:34:53,49
All my secrets
are out, Mr. Stone.
702
00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:55,468
And my parent's too.
703
00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:05,437
The skull had a lateral unaligned fracture
12 centimeters long.
704
00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:08,231
Could that have been caused
by a fall-- an accident?
705
00:35:08,398 --> 00:35:11,318
No, the skull was hit
directly by a heavy object.
706
00:35:11,484 --> 00:35:13,612
Thank you.
Your withess.
707
00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:15,780
Mr. Huston, if a boy
crawled inside a wall,
708
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:17,365
and an ordinary red brick
709
00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:20,35
like the ones found
near the bones you examined--
710
00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:21,703
if a brick fell eight or 10 feet,
711
00:35:21,870 --> 00:35:23,955
could it leave a fracture
like you described?
712
00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:26,124
- It's possible--
- Thank you, no further questions.
713
00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:28,01
Possible,
but extremely unlikely.
714
00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:30,03
No further questions.
715
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:34,883
Keegan:
He never really had much of a father.
716
00:35:35,50 --> 00:35:38,345
Tommy was only four
when my husband died.
717
00:35:38,511 --> 00:35:42,390
Did your son have a relationship
with the defendant?
718
00:35:42,557 --> 00:35:45,18
| worried about the lack
719
00:35:45,185 --> 00:35:47,187
of a father figure
for Tommy,
720
00:35:47,354 --> 00:35:49,898
so | was happy
721
00:35:50,65 --> 00:35:52,442
to see Thad
befriend Tommy.
722
00:35:54,27 --> 00:35:56,446
What did you
personally withess
723
00:35:56,613 --> 00:35:58,907
of your son's relationship
with the defendant?
724
00:35:59,908 --> 00:36:03,703
Thad would...
tap him on the head
725
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:06,206
and tell him he was
big and strong,
726
00:36:06,373 --> 00:36:08,291
grow up to be
a football player.
727
00:36:08,458 --> 00:36:11,86
He took him
to a Giants game once
728
00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:12,671
with his daughter.
729
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:15,48
Tommy came home
730
00:36:15,215 --> 00:36:17,217
with one of the player's
autographs.
731
00:36:17,384 --> 00:36:19,511
Thank you.
No further questions.
732
00:36:21,721 --> 00:36:24,265
Mrs. Keegan,
733
00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,59
did you tell the police
734
00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:29,229
about Mr. Messimer's
relationship with your son?
735
00:36:29,396 --> 00:36:31,981
No. Why?
736
00:36:32,148 --> 00:36:34,484
It didn't seem
unusual to you?
737
00:36:34,651 --> 00:36:36,945
No.
738
00:36:37,112 --> 00:36:39,572
What made you
change your mind?
739
00:36:39,739 --> 00:36:41,908
Well...
740
00:36:42,75 --> 00:36:44,494
nothing made me
change my mind.
741
00:36:44,661 --> 00:36:48,832
Did Tommy ever complain
to you after he spent time with Mr. Messimer?
742
00:36:48,998 --> 00:36:51,418
Did he seem troubled?
Moody?
743
00:36:51,584 --> 00:36:52,836
No.
744
00:36:53,02 --> 00:36:55,04
Did you have a close
relationship with your son?
745
00:36:55,171 --> 00:36:57,257
Did he confide in you?
746
00:36:57,424 --> 00:36:59,634
As much as children do.
747
00:36:59,801 --> 00:37:01,553
Thank you,
no further questions.
748
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,138
No, wait!
749
00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,56
You're trying
to make this seem as-- 35--
750
00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:06,474
Your Honor.
751
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:07,934
The withess is excused.
752
00:37:08,101 --> 00:37:10,854
But | trusted Thad.
| had no idea--
753
00:37:11,20 --> 00:37:14,566
Mrs. Keegan, please,
step down.
754
00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:17,569
Repression is
a well-understood
755
00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:19,612
psychological mechanism.
756
00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:21,573
Memories too painful
to bear
757
00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:23,575
are excluded
from conscious awareness.
758
00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:25,994
Can you explain
the appearance of memories
759
00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:28,580
after being repressed
for so many years?
760
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:30,790
As a person grows up
761
00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:33,960
and is psychologically capable
of coping with a painful event,
762
00:37:34,127 --> 00:37:36,171
the memories break through.
763
00:37:36,337 --> 00:37:38,298
Thank you.
No further questions.
764
00:37:39,466 --> 00:37:41,968
Dr. Olivet,
765
00:37:42,135 --> 00:37:44,804
don't we often think we remember
things that never happened?
766
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:46,639
Sometimes.
767
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:49,267
But repressed memories
of traumatic events
768
00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:50,852
are usually accurate.
769
00:37:51,19 --> 00:37:52,812
Are you familiar
with the work
770
00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:56,357
of a psychiatrist named
Abraham Trigonis?
771
00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:58,401
Yes.
772
00:37:58,568 --> 00:38:02,280
Tell the court Dr. Trigonis's theory
of childhood memories.
773
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,657
Dr. Trigonis believes
774
00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:06,951
that many adult
memories of childhood
775
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:10,997
are to some extent an amalgam
of fantasy and wish fulfiliment.
776
00:38:11,164 --> 00:38:13,958
And yet you just said adult memories
of childhood are accurate.
777
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:16,336
What | said was
repressed memories
778
00:38:16,503 --> 00:38:18,379
of traumatic events
are accurate,
779
00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:21,216
especially when remembering
brings on a new trauma.
780
00:38:21,382 --> 00:38:24,135
Repressed memories?
Adult memories?
781
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:26,846
It's certainly
confusing and abstract to me.
782
00:38:27,13 --> 00:38:29,724
No further questions.
783
00:38:29,891 --> 00:38:31,351
Thad:
This is blackmail.
784
00:38:31,518 --> 00:38:33,353
No, this is
your meeting.
785
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,230
Spare his daughter
further suffering,
786
00:38:35,396 --> 00:38:39,192
Mr. Messimer will consider
a plea with the record sealed.
787
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:42,570
I'm sure Mr. Messimer knows
all about sealed records.
788
00:38:42,737 --> 00:38:46,32
Don't force this, Ben.
I'll demolish that woman on the stand.
789
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,867
Oh, | get it.
790
00:38:48,34 --> 00:38:49,702
He cares about her,
but you'll demolish her.
791
00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:52,622
Criminally negligent homicide.
He does no time.
792
00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:54,624
No time for killing a child?
793
00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:57,460
Who's blackmailing whom?
794
00:38:57,627 --> 00:39:00,505
Manslaughter one,
same offer.
795
00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:03,07
| love my daughter,
796
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:05,802
but I'm not going to prison
797
00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:08,513
for a crime
| didn't commit.
798
00:39:10,557 --> 00:39:12,767
Olivet:
She'll be here, relax.
799
00:39:12,934 --> 00:39:15,854
She falls apart on the stand, she'll blow us
right out of the water.
800
00:39:16,20 --> 00:39:18,439
What do you think
she does to herself?
801
00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:21,860
Her breakdown was what--
a year ago?
802
00:39:22,26 --> 00:39:24,237
Let's just hope
this doesn't give her another one.
803
00:39:24,404 --> 00:39:26,364
( bell dings )
804
00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:33,955
Are you okay?
805
00:39:34,122 --> 00:39:37,250
My father was waiting for me
last night in front of my building.
806
00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:39,586
He begged me
not to say anything.
807
00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:41,671
He told me it would
be better for me.
808
00:39:41,838 --> 00:39:44,132
Not him, me.
809
00:39:44,299 --> 00:39:46,92
All those years...
810
00:39:46,259 --> 00:39:49,387
and | wondered
what was wrong with me.
811
00:39:51,931 --> 00:39:53,892
I'll be okay.
812
00:39:58,855 --> 00:40:02,483
Stone:
And why did you seek psychiatric help?
813
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:06,70
| was depressed.
| had thoughts of suicide.
814
00:40:06,446 --> 00:40:09,115
Were you ever hospitalized
for emotional problems?
815
00:40:09,282 --> 00:40:11,618
About a year ago
for three weeks.
816
00:40:11,784 --> 00:40:13,786
| suffered
from paranoid delusions.
817
00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:15,747
Do you still
suffer from them?
818
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:17,123
No.
819
00:40:17,290 --> 00:40:19,00
Uh, Mrs. Atkinson,
820
00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:21,210
please tell us
what happened
821
00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:24,88
the day Tommy Keegan
disappeared.
822
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:28,760
Tommy and | left
school together
823
00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,678
and stopped
at a corner candy store,
824
00:40:30,845 --> 00:40:32,722
and then we started home.
825
00:40:32,889 --> 00:40:34,474
Mom was ar work
826
00:40:34,641 --> 00:40:37,101
and my dad was waiting
at the front door.
827
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:39,520
And what else
do you recall?
828
00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:41,940
| didn't feel very well,
829
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:43,483
so | went to bed early.
830
00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:46,277
My dad brought me
some warm milk
831
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,237
and | fell asleep.
832
00:40:48,404 --> 00:40:50,949
But | woke up
to go to the bathroom
833
00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:52,742
and | wanted
to brush my teeth,
834
00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:54,786
so | went
down the hall.
835
00:40:54,953 --> 00:40:56,955
The bathroom door
was ajar.
836
00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:03,127
| heard water running--
837
00:41:05,505 --> 00:41:08,299
| pushed
the door open...
838
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:15,306
and | saw...
839
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:19,811
| saw—
840
00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:21,980
What did you see?
841
00:41:28,861 --> 00:41:31,656
My dad...
842
00:41:33,116 --> 00:41:35,493
was kneeling at the tub
843
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:39,247
and he was washing out
a blue sweater.
844
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:43,710
The sweater was all bloody
845
00:41:43,876 --> 00:41:47,547
and his hands
were bloody.
846
00:41:47,714 --> 00:41:51,551
| said, "Daddy,
did you hurt yourself?”
847
00:41:51,718 --> 00:41:55,54
|... wanted him
848
00:41:55,221 --> 00:41:57,15
to tell me everything
was all right.
849
00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:58,975
And what did he do?
850
00:41:59,142 --> 00:42:01,436
He turned to me--
851
00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:06,190
blood was smeared
on his face.
852
00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:08,109
And he had a look
853
00:42:08,276 --> 00:42:10,486
like he was going
to hit me.
854
00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:14,532
He looked like
a monster in a movie
855
00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:16,868
with his eyes
all bulged out.
856
00:42:17,35 --> 00:42:19,328
Did he say anything?
857
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:23,332
| don’t remember
anything after that.
858
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,46
Thank you.
859
00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:30,840
Your witness.
860
00:42:31,07 --> 00:42:34,427
Prior to the past
two months, Mrs. Atkinson,
861
00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:37,346
when did you last
see your parents?
862
00:42:37,513 --> 00:42:39,223
Two years ago.
863
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:41,768
Two years!
A long time.
864
00:42:41,934 --> 00:42:44,103
Did your parents
treat you badly?
865
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:46,939
| didn't see them
866
00:42:47,106 --> 00:42:48,900
because it was painful
to talk to them.
867
00:42:49,67 --> 00:42:50,568
Oh, why?
868
00:42:50,735 --> 00:42:52,987
You feel your parents
don't love you?
869
00:42:53,154 --> 00:42:55,114
No, I'm sure they do.
870
00:42:55,281 --> 00:42:58,493
With your testimony, are you trying to get back
at them for some reason?
871
00:42:58,659 --> 00:42:59,786
Objection!
872
00:42:59,952 --> 00:43:02,205
Maybe you made this up
to get their attention.
873
00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:04,373
Sustained, Mr. Greer,
874
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:07,835
that's enough along those lines,
move on to something else.
875
00:43:08,02 --> 00:43:10,838
Didn't you recall
the testimony you gave today
876
00:43:11,05 --> 00:43:13,07
only with the help
of a psychiatrist
877
00:43:13,174 --> 00:43:15,343
who works for the police
department of New York City?
878
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:16,886
| just took
a walk with her.
879
00:43:17,53 --> 00:43:18,846
You just took a walk...
880
00:43:19,13 --> 00:43:22,350
and suddenly you remember
what happened 31 years ago?
881
00:43:22,517 --> 00:43:25,978
- Did your Bellevue delusions include images of blood?
- No.
882
00:43:26,145 --> 00:43:29,482
- Or bathtubs? Or your father trying to hurt you?
- No, you don't understand.
883
00:43:29,649 --> 00:43:30,817
Oh, | understand!
884
00:43:30,983 --> 00:43:33,986
| understand that you've
always resented your father
885
00:43:34,153 --> 00:43:37,824
because he told you hard truths you didn't want to hear.
Isn't that the truth?
886
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,867
- My father and I--
- Oh, come on.
887
00:43:40,34 --> 00:43:42,495
This is-- come onh, come on.
888
00:43:46,499 --> 00:43:49,502
Didn't your father forbid you
to see a boy in high school
889
00:43:49,669 --> 00:43:51,504
who subsequently
made you pregnant?
890
00:43:51,671 --> 00:43:55,925
In fact, hasn't your whole life been a
disaster?
891
00:43:56,92 --> 00:43:58,719
Divorces, abortions--
892
00:43:58,886 --> 00:43:59,762
Your Honor!
893
00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:01,681
Mr. Greer!
894
00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:06,644
No more questions.
895
00:44:16,404 --> 00:44:18,990
Greer:
He doesn't want her on the stand again.
896
00:44:19,157 --> 00:44:21,450
My heart goes
out to him.
897
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:25,79
Tomorrow,
on redirect,
898
00:44:25,246 --> 00:44:28,875
I'm asking Julie
if he told her not to testify.
899
00:44:29,41 --> 00:44:30,543
I'll object.
900
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:32,503
He tampered
with a witnhess, Doug.
901
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,839
If he even gets
near her again--
902
00:44:36,215 --> 00:44:38,885
| was tempted
to revoke his bail.
903
00:44:39,51 --> 00:44:40,678
That's a stretch.
904
00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:43,556
He practically asked her
to commit perjury.
905
00:44:43,723 --> 00:44:46,184
Forget stretch,
906
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:48,394
that's a leap across
the Grand Canyon.
907
00:44:48,561 --> 00:44:50,980
| haven't changed
my mind, Doug.
908
00:44:51,147 --> 00:44:53,482
Manslaughter one.
909
00:44:56,652 --> 00:44:59,488
He still insists
he didn't kill the boy.
910
00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,574
Fine.
911
00:45:01,741 --> 00:45:04,827
Does he want to let
a jury decide?
912
00:45:18,132 --> 00:45:19,926
Mr. Greer?
913
00:45:20,92 --> 00:45:22,303
Your Honor,
with the Court's permission,
914
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:25,806
the defendant wishes to withdraw
his previously entered plea
915
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:29,435
and plead guilty to the charge
of manslaughter in the first degree.
916
00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:31,896
Mr. Stone?
917
00:45:32,63 --> 00:45:34,65
The People agree,
Your Honor,
918
00:45:34,232 --> 00:45:36,234
with a sentence of eight
and a third-to-25 years
919
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,735
as a condition of the plea.
920
00:45:37,902 --> 00:45:41,364
Mr. Messimer, you are
pleading guilty
921
00:45:41,530 --> 00:45:45,117
to manslaughter in the death
of Thomas Keegan.
922
00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:47,870
Did you in fact
commit the crime
923
00:45:48,37 --> 00:45:50,39
with which
you're charged?
924
00:45:50,206 --> 00:45:52,416
Yes.
925
00:45:54,252 --> 00:45:56,87
For the record,
926
00:45:56,254 --> 00:45:59,966
tell the Court
how you committed the crime.
927
00:46:00,967 --> 00:46:03,52
| hit him.
928
00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:08,724
It was a lug wrench
next to the boiler.
929
00:46:08,891 --> 00:46:11,227
| hit him on the head.
930
00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:17,233
| saw that he was dead
and l..
931
00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:21,821
| put him
inside the wall.
932
00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:30,37
I'm sorry.
933
00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:35,126
The plea agreement
is so entered.
934
00:46:52,977 --> 00:46:54,937
He would have
been convicted.
935
00:46:55,104 --> 00:46:57,356
He'd have done 25,
936
00:46:58,399 --> 00:47:01,736
He's 65 years old, and | didn't want his
daughter waking up
937
00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:03,863
with nightmares
for the rest of her life.
938
00:47:04,30 --> 00:47:07,199
And now she knows for sure--
she didn't imagine it.
939
00:47:17,209 --> 00:47:21,672
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