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Millions of Catholics around the world are in mourning

after the death of Pope Francis.

The Vatican announced that the Pope died at 7.35 this morning,

less than 24 hours after he was last seen in public,

blessing the Easter crowds.

He was 88.

What changes? Well, everything changes.

You lose somebody that you love.

But you're immensely aware that the throne of Saint Peter is empty.

We had a single purpose -

to elect a successor to Pope Francis.

Thousands of people come from all around the world

to see this ancient tradition of how to elect

the man who will then become the successor of Saint Peter -

the man who will guide this universal Church.

This process needs to be protected.

It cannot be left vulnerable to other forces, interests,

manipulations.

We were excluded from the rest of the world.

Et ego Blase, Cardinalis Cupich...

I had to be true to myself

and true to what the Church was calling me to do in this moment.

I am not looking for a perfect human being.

I'm looking for a regular, normal person.

Someone in here has been chosen by God,

from birth, to be the Pope.

All we had to do was find him.

BELL CHIMES

BELL CHIMES

So, from the moment a pope dies,

it's obviously a very solemn moment.

It's a time of suspense. It's a time of waiting.

It's a time of watching.

It's also a time of mourning for the death of this person.

I was in mourning for the loss of a friend.

And that's the dominant emotion that you have -

of sorrow and mourning - for some time.

It was...

Yeah, it...

It... It was hard...

It... It shook me, as they say.

It was not just the Pope,

you know, but someone that I have known for years

and have had some very personal and friendly exchange,

and then a collaborator here, so...

..yeah, all of those layers of relationship

being put together, you know, at this moment, yeah.

That procession was, for me,

probably the single most moving thing

I have ever attended in Saint Peter's Square.

Even though this was on a wonderful, magnificent scale,

it was very simply the carrying of a much-loved person

to the church for their funeral Mass.

After the funeral of the Pope...

..then you enter a new moment.

Then, slowly, your gaze, your thoughts, turn to the future.

The conclave is a very important moment

that gives the sense of the universality of Catholic religion,

and also of the global role of Rome as a capital of Christianity -

a place where people come from all over the world.

Being the Mayor of Rome, it's an extremely difficult job,

very hard job, but also very fascinating,

because we have the Vatican, which on the one hand is a state -

sovereign state which is not part of Italy -

on the other hand is a fully integral part of the city of Rome.

The death of Pope Francis was a terrible shock,

but then we had to immediately enter into the organisational phase

of an event that was unique.

Many people's eyes will be on the roof of the Sistine Chapel

as more than 100 cardinals gathered for the secret,

centuries-old ritual of electing a new pope.

A conclave is the process of electing a new pope -

in this case, the 267th pope -

the successor of Peter, the first pope.

Everyone starts travelling to Rome.

Little by little, the cardinals start to become more present.

And then, no more than 20 days after the death of a Pope,

the conclave has to begin,

and so the cardinals are thinking in this process,

who in the arc of the Church's 2,000-year history

is going to be right for this job? And that's a very big question.

Over the years, the rules and the number of cardinals

who were allowed to enter the conclave to elect the Pope changed,

and the number of cardinals around the world grew exponentially.

And it was growing so much that Paul VI, in the 1970s,

put a limit of 120 cardinals who could enter a conclave,

and he also limited their age.

They had to be under 80.

However, successive popes broke Vatican law, essentially,

by naming more than 120,

and in this conclave, the largest number of cardinal electors

entered the Sistine Chapel to elect the new pope.

135 cardinals were eligible.

Only 133 actually took place

because two of them were ill and couldn't do it.

I was feeling quite intimidated

about the whole prospect of the conclave

because it's such an important decision

and I'd never been at one before,

so I didn't know quite exactly what was going to happen.

SINGING

But, following the funeral of Pope Francis,

there were nine formal days of mourning.

That meant a solemn Mass each day.

ALL: Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

And then most mornings,

there was what's called a general congregation,

which was a meeting of all the cardinals present in Rome

in a very formal setting,

where each could speak about the qualities

that they believed were needed in the next pope.

It was a time where we learnt about all the different cardinals,

how they saw the world, how they saw the Church,

what they thought were the challenges, what were their hopes.

We come from every country in the world.

All sorts of cultures.

And this was largely, I think, because Pope Francis

reached out to places which had never had a cardinal before,

like Tehran in Iran.

So he wanted to bring in very different voices.

After a couple of days, a very useful book was produced for us,

giving the life history, the qualifications

and a picture of each of the cardinals.

So, for example, one young cardinal came from Mongolia,

so I chatted to him about, "What's it like?

"Are you on the steppes with the nomadic people?"

He said, "Yes." He said, "And I have a church which is a tent

"which is folded up and moves people."

Well, we don't do that in central London.

I mean, the differences are astonishing.

Contrary to what public opinion is, or maybe you see in Hollywood,

there was no campaigning that I came across, where people came up

and said, "You should vote for this or that person."

What we did, however, was try to identify

what were the needs of the Church at this time

and the qualities of the individual

that could lead the Church moving forward.

The Sistine Chapel, where the conclave takes place,

has to be prepared for the arrival of the cardinals,

and part of that is installing a new floor.

Of course, they want to protect the rich mosaics that are there,

but the stone floors are also quite uneven,

and you have a lot of elderly men

who might be a little unstable on that floor,

so creating a smooth surface for them to walk on is helpful

in terms of safety and protection for them.

Of course, they bring in tables,

chairs that are comfortable for them,

but then you also have, of course, the stove.

Conclave comes from the Latin word "cum clave",

which basically means "with a key",

which means that it's supposed to be completely secret.

It was supposed to always have been secret, even going back centuries.

One of the ways that the cardinals wanted to keep it secret

was to basically burn all the evidence,

and so the ballots were burned,

the notes that various cardinals took were burned,

but at a certain point, the populace wanted to know

what was going on inside,

so a stove was put in the Sistine Chapel

with a flue that went up to a chimney stack,

and they would burn the ballots with water

if they wanted black smoke, which meant no pope,

and without water if a pope has been elected

because the smoke would come out kind of greyish white.

That didn't always work.

They've got it down to a science now,

where, in the stove where the ballots are burned,

an additive is put in there to produce either white or black smoke,

and, bingo, the world knows whether we have a new pope or not.

The anticipation is building here in Rome

and across the world ahead of this election.

The fact is, we don't know until much later

who exactly they can choose. The field is wide open.

It is totally unpredictable until we see that smoke.

Y algunas encuestas tambien...

So, of course, going into this conclave, we all had our lists,

you know, of top contenders - you know, the "papabile".

Maybe Wim Eijk? Yes. Wim Eijk.

Wim Eijk. Wim Eijk.

So the term "papabile"

means basically you are a frontrunner to be elected Pope.

You're considered a likely candidate to be elected Pope.

And you had some clear names that were being put out there.

You know, Cardinal Pietro Parolin,

the Vatican Secretary of State under Pope Francis.

You had Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa in Jerusalem.

And then, you know, there's always these dark horse candidates

that are also being taken seriously but you might not expect it.

And one of them was Cardinal Robert Prevost,

who had a reputation for being...

..a very good leader, a very good administrator, very smart.

You know, very "furbo", as they say in Italian - very savvy.

So you've had a lot of names that were coming out

of people that were being looked at.

I know for a fact that even my name was being mentioned.

You walk around and...

And people recognise you and then some would stop you

and say, "Oh, let us have a selfie.

"You might become the Pope."

And, yeah, it was not pleasant at all, I should say, for me, no.

I do not like the...

What do you call this? The limelight.

HE LAUGHS

I don't like being the object of talk and things like those.

I... I see myself better as...

As... What do you call this? A silent worker.

So, obviously, no-one knows before the conclave

who is going to be elected Pope,

and so you don't know what kind of body that man has.

He may be short, tall, skinny, a little bit on the heavy side,

medium - you don't know,

so, essentially, the tailors from all over the city

prepare three white papal garments in three different sizes.

The conclave is a fascinating moment of the life of Rome

and of Christianity because there is a sense of waiting.

Nobody knows what's going to happen.

Nobody can predict when the Pope will be elected.

It was really a very busy moment.

We had to take care of the presence of a very huge number of people.

We had to work together with all the police forces,

with security officials, city officials and the Vatican.

We had to organise the protection of the aerial space, the drones,

all the security, the traffic arrangements,

which, from a logistical organisational point of view,

it's extremely demanding and challenging,

but we are trying to do our best to make the city ready for this.

The day before the conclave begins,

there is this protocol of total secrecy where,

around the Vatican - so Vatican City State -

goes into almost a type of radio silence...

..and so there's no signal service or Wi-Fi.

We were excluded from the rest of the world.

We had to leave behind our iPhones

and laptops and iPads and everything.

Even the Kindle that I thought I might be able to read from,

no, that was taken.

They checked my electric toothbrush.

It was worse than getting on an aeroplane.

I discovered my fear of, like, wow...

..I will not be with my cellphone for a number of days.

And then I realised, geez, how dependent I have been...

HE LAUGHS

..on my cellphone.

But I should confess, you know, after the first day,

I felt liberated.

HE LAUGHS

I said, "Wow!

To be in...in this space,

where I could be left with serenity

so that I could do my mission.

Another part of preparing for the conclave

at the Vatican also includes the Casa Santa Marta,

or the Vatican guesthouse.

I mean, it's not supposed to be an exclusive five-star hotel,

but it's the place where cardinals from all over the world will come,

and they'll spend the entire duration of the conclave there.

There are bigger rooms and smaller rooms.

But the rooms were chosen for each of us by lottery,

not by order of precedence.

So I actually had rather a small room,

but so did Cardinal Parolin, the Secretary of State.

But it didn't make much difference.

I must admit that on entering into the Casa Santa Marta,

it suddenly became much more peaceful.

That now we were at the start, as it were,

and sealed in.

This was where the "conclave" began - "under the key".

On the day the conclave started,

going from Santa Marta to the Sistine Chapel,

there were buses available for those who wanted to take the bus.

But for those who preferred to walk, that was also allowed,

because the area, they were all secure,

so you could walk in peace, you know.

Now, the conclave to elect a new pope

to lead the world's 1.4 billion Roman Catholics

is under way at the Vatican.

The 133 cardinals permitted to vote will choose Pope Francis' successor.

The routines of the conclave

have been established for centuries and they're followed meticulously,

so we did a lot of sitting quietly,

waiting for a particular part of the procedure to be completed.

So, for example, each cardinal, at the beginning of the conclave,

has to take a solemn oath of secrecy.

Et ego Timothy, Cardinalis Radcliffe,

spondeo, voveo ac iuro.

"Spondeo, voveo ac iuro."

We promised to be entirely confidential

and never to reveal what happened.

Sic me Deus adiuvet et haec Sancta Dei Evangelia...

That happened 133 times.

For me, it took about 30 seconds.

Et ego Vincent, Cardinalis Nichols,

spondeo, voveo ac iuro.

Sic me Deus adiuvet et haec Sancta Dei Evangelia,

quae manu mea tango.

So, for the rest of the time, I sat in silence.

There's the silence of when you've got nothing to say

and there's the silence of when you have everything to say.

Often, when we're really close to people,

is when we sit with them in silence,

enjoying their presence.

And I think, for a lot of us, it was a beautiful time of silence,

trying to understand the dynamics of what was happening.

But the moment comes when there is the great cry, "Extra omnes."

Everybody out.

Extra omnes.

For me, "extra omnes" not only of persons

who had nothing to do with the conclave,

but also removing mentalities, attitudes.

No thoughts that should not be brought to the conclave.

Once the doors of the Sistine Chapel had been shut, the voting begins.

BELL CHIMES

There are, in a conclave, usually four ballots a day

until a pope is elected. So, in this case,

it began in the afternoon, there was only one ballot,

because, of course, there were some practical explanations of how things

are going to work because there were a lot of new cardinals.

Then the first ballot is conducted and you have your first vote.

It's a two-thirds majority that was needed

and the mathematicians among us told us that was 89 votes.

When you vote, each of you writes down a name

on a ballot paper,

and names are extraordinarily important to us all.

We know that our names are treasured by the people who love us...

..and so when you write somebody's name down,

you're doing something quite intimate.

You then go up, holding your ballot upright

so that everybody can see it...

..and you swear that you will vote for the person

who you really believe, before God, is the right person.

And then you place the ballot in the urn and shut the lid.

And the urn is on the altar.

This is very important.

That was a detail that the film Conclave got wrong,

which had the urn on a table.

In the conclave, there were cardinals elected to scrutinise

the votes and read out the name of each cardinal

as the card is taken out of the container.

So, in that sense, everybody in the room

would know what the distribution of votes were.

We all received a kind of score sheet

to be able to mark down ourselves

how many votes were going to various individuals,

and so we were able to follow that closely.

I was thinking often,

someone in here has been chosen by God,

from birth, to be the Pope.

Like the word "pope" was written on his heart.

And all we had to do was find him and to discern who that might be.

To begin with, I was thinking,

couldn't we have a push button system in here?

Er, so I was agitated,

But slowly I learned, actually, the slow pace

and the patience contributed to that sense

of purposeful discernment and reflection.

The conclave is a liturgy.

It is a space of prayer,

worship,

and surrender to the Lord.

So it is not just "business".

It is not just a parliamentary discussion.

This is not just...

..an election where I will choose...

..for my personal interest.

What is at stake here

is not just my life or the life of a few,

what is at stake here is the whole Church.

While we were in the conclave, we had no access to the news.

So, paradoxically, at the same time,

never had the news been so focused on us ever before

and never had we been so cut-off from the news.

So we had no idea what people were saying.

And that, in a way, took off a weight

from our shoulders.

REPORTER: This is a huge conclave - 133 cardinal electors.

And they will be waiting for the voice of God

to tell them exactly where their vote should go.

Now, we await the black or white smoke

here, outside the Sistine Chapel, in the next hour or so.

I felt on that first day that it was a great privilege

to be a part of a very historic moment in the life of the Church.

So it was a moment of very profound, deep commitment

to do the best I could as a cardinal of the Church.

BBC NEWS JINGLE

Our top story this hour - thick black smoke has risen

from the Sistine Chapel chimney, signalling that the cardinals

meeting in the conclave have not yet agreed on a new pope.

It probably would be very unusual to elect someone

on the first ballot, so I guess I wasn't surprised.

But it did, of course, give us an idea of the strength

of various candidates and gave us, I think,

an opportunity to sleep on what we saw take place

and then enter the next day.

So we left there and went back to the Casa Santa Marta and had dinner.

The meals were simple,

but perfectly adequate.

We had wine, which always is a good thing.

It encourages conversation.

And we were relaxed in each other's company.

The conversations between the cardinals in those days

had no rancour.

There was no harsh words.

It was dedicated solely to this process of election of a pope.

So how do we do it as a group?

I mean, that's quite difficult.

I would say it's by listening very attentively.

So there might be something that comes up in a conversation

and it creates an echo in me.

You think, "Oh, yeah, I hadn't thought of that."

Something that is like throwing a pebble into a pond,

and you suddenly realise that this small pebble

is sending out ripples right through the whole group.

And then you begin to sense how that movement is taking place

among the people that you're with.

Hello and welcome to the Vatican.

We're here watching and waiting as 133 cardinals involved

have entered the second day of the conclave

in the Sistine Chapel to vote once again

on who should be the next pope.

Of course, we had breakfast together,

and then some of us walked over to the Sistine Chapel.

Others went by bus.

We celebrated Mass

and then took up the work of going into the Sistine Chapel again,

and we began by taking votes.

To hold the conclave in the Sistine Chapel

is a very significant dimension of our experience.

I don't know if I can explain it well,

but I would say maybe the first thing

is just that we're in such a beautiful place.

And I think this somehow enhances the meaning and the importance

and maybe also the tranquillity

with which we come to our decision and our conclusion.

And...

..secondly, the image of the Last Judgment before us

is a very eloquent reminder

of the importance, the seriousness of what we're doing,

and I don't think the message can be lost to anyone in the room.

CHOIR SINGS

There in front of you is this enormous, great image

by Michelangelo.

It's overwhelming.

I found it a bit depressing,

seeing all the poor people being damned, going down to Hell.

I came to see it in another way.

I came to see it as the triumph of love over hatred,

of life over death.

It is the victory of goodness over evil.

And that's extraordinarily liberating,

because you know that in the end,

you believe that good and love

and life will triumph.

So when you vote, you're not tempted to be manipulative

or political or pragmatic.

You say, let us choose the person

who is best able to seek the triumph of goodness.

I think there's a great contrast

between what goes on in the Sistine Chapel

and what was going on in Saint Peter's Square.

Neste momento do conclave, e unica...

I think that we were making progress

and I believe also, one of the things that impressed me

was that there had to be a certain moment

in which cardinals who were favouring another candidate

had to realise that there was a presence

much larger than ourselves in the room,

moving us in a particular direction.

The initial ballots of a conclave are usually all over the map.

Some cardinals will vote for somebody

who doesn't have a chance of getting elected,

but just as a kind of show of gratitude

for the service that has been done for the Church.

Then things start getting serious as the numbers start,

you know, going up and down - up for some and down for others.

And even the cardinals themselves start, you know,

I guess, taking tallies about who is getting votes

and who is not getting votes, but they need a two-thirds majority.

And the last three conclaves all lasted just two days.

There's lovely stories, of course, that there was a conclave

and it was going on and on, so, eventually,

the food supply was cut down.

And even after that, then the roof was taken off the hall

where they were meeting to make them come to a decision.

But we weren't as obstinate as that.

Let's take you live to the Vatican, where black smoke is billowing

out of that chimney, which tells us that two votes

have taken place already this morning,

and that means no new pope has been elected yet.

The second and the third votes were again inconclusive,

black smoke went up,

and then we broke for lunch

and went back and had time for a little siesta.

When we went into the conclave,

we prayed for the guidance of the Holy Spirit,

and some people might think that that gets us off the hook.

"Don't worry, it's the Holy Spirit who will decide."

We believe that the Holy Spirit

is the way that we share the life of God,

who is love

and who is understanding,

and so you open yourself to the Holy Spirit

by loving each other,

but also by thinking, by arguing,

by your intuition, your imagination.

So believing in the guidance of the Holy Spirit

doesn't mean that you stop thinking.

It means you hope that you will think better and more clearly.

The cardinals, they'll be back this afternoon.

There will be two more votes.

If no pope is elected,

then the process will continue into tomorrow.

I suspect that the cardinal who was elected knew

after the morning votes...

..that he was going to be elected and that he had

an overwhelming number of votes already.

In the very concrete act of choosing a name,

you call on God -

God who knows your heart,

God who knows your intentions.

And for me, those are important reminders.

As the cardinals go through the process,

there is a continuing call to personal vigilance.

Watch your thoughts, watch your desires,

watch your sentiments.

I was inspired by the fact that the cardinals

each had to make a decision in giving up the support

for a candidate perhaps that they wanted

in order to go with how the movement and the direction was unfolding.

They really wanted the best for what the Church needed at this time.

There's no doubt that voting in a conclave...

..is about the deepest sense of responsibility

that I've ever had.

At the beginning of the conclave, I thought it would take some time...

..and I was surprised, as I think most of us were,

by how quickly we've managed to find a successor.

There was one vote that was counted in the afternoon.

It was the fourth ballot.

And there was a sense of anticipation

as the votes were coming in

that this could be a moment in which we elected the Pope.

I think we came to a decision

probably about six o'clock.

I am a firm believer, you know,

that the most spiritual event is also very human.

And I was beside Cardinal Prevost,

and when he was getting close to the required number of votes,

I heard him with deep sighs...

HE IMITATES A SIGH

..so I offered him a candy.

I said, "Do you want a candy?", and he accepted.

I think I also gave him a glass of water.

HE LAUGHS

So when 89 majority arrived,

there was an explosive applause.

I think we all looked at his face.

We all could guess what he was living at this moment.

As soon as that final vote was taken

and all the other papers were collected up,

off went the white smoke.

CHEERING

I was just near the ballots when the white smoke was sent up.

I was just near the furnace.

What was extraordinary is you hear the crowd roaring

before they even know who it is.

CHEERING

We remained, actually, very, very calm and recollected.

BELL CHIMES

We have the Pope.

There will be a lot of people, a lot of crowd now.

There are already many thousands now.

We expect more than 80,000 people, probably,

when he will make his first announcement.

And Rome is a bit the centre of the world. We feel that.

CROWD: Viva il Papa!

That's a moment full of emotions.

After the white smoke, there is a moment where you're waiting

and everyone's in the square listening or watching.

The anticipation is building for that moment

when the Pope will be announced, and then we'll actually see

and greet the Pope for the first time.

The protodeacon - one of the cardinals -

comes out on the balcony and says,

"I announce to you news of great joy", in Latin,

"We have a Pope."

CHEERING

HE SPEAKS ITALIAN

HE SPEAKS ITALIAN

Tuti bene.

Annuncio vobis gaudium magnum.

Habemus papam.

CHEERING

At that moment, it doesn't matter

if you speak Latin, understand Latin or anything.

Everyone cheers and everyone's so excited,

because that's a term that everyone knows

across the world, no matter what language you speak.

Eminentissimum ac reverendissimum Dominum.

Dominum Robertum Franciscum

Sanctae Romane Ecclesiae Cardinalem Prevost...

HE EXCLAIMS

HE LAUGHS

..qui sibi nomen imposuit Leo XIV.

CHEERING

He's from Chicago.

And he's been long time in Peru. That's what I know.

I think he speaks Italian. But now we will see.

The choice of Pope Leo XIV

suggests that he is going to be dedicated

to issues such as social justice,

as Leo XVI was during his reign.

Once fitted out in the regalia of the Holy Father,

Pope Leo began his journey.

He had to leave the Sistine Chapel

and then turn right and go into the Pauline Chapel,

where he could spend as long as he wanted in prayer.

CROWD CHANT

We already were on the balcony, but he was still in the chapel.

We said, "Oh, what is he doing in the chapel?

"Is he crying again?" You know, we were... We were...

We were joking with each other.

But I think at that moment, while in prayer,

he also thought of what he would say now to the world.

So we waited.

And at that time, people were already free to laugh aloud

and to talk and to make jokes.

And then finally, the new Holy Father came out,

now dressed as a new pope.

CHEERING

For me personally,

that moment was very touching in the sense

that I've known Robert Prevost for a good decade.

It's a good friendship,

and I was very proud as well that someone

who was born in Chicago was elected to be the successor of Peter.

I was surprised at one level, but not surprised,

you know, because those of us who had been closely watching

knew he was a candidate

and we knew that he was being seriously considered.

You know, so the big question was,

is his American background going to get in the way?

You know? And in the end, it did not.

Many people thought

that we could never elect an American pope.

And we did. So when he appeared on the balcony,

a lot of us thought, "Isn't it marvellous?

"We have a pope who speaks English, particularly the English,

"who aren't very good linguists."

But he did not speak in English on that occasion.

He spoke in three languages.

He spoke in Latin, because that's the form.

He spoke in Italian, because he's the Bishop of Rome.

And he spoke in Spanish.

And I'm told he spoke in a very distinctive Peruvian-Spanish.

So he cannot simply say, "Here is a man from North America."

He deliberately, I believe, didn't speak in English.

It was a beautiful, beautiful speech that he gave,

you know, and part of me said, "Well, ah,

"God, thank you for making me a part of this great event."

But what hit me the most was to see...

..the people in the piazza up to the Via della Conciliazione.

You know? And for me, I said, "I've studied,

"you know, books and books

"and articles and history of the papacy.

"But here you see the testimony of the people,

"what is the role

"for them of the Bishop of Rome, of the successor of Peter."

Pope Leo XIV begins his first full week as pontiff,

meeting journalists, diplomats and top Vatican officials.

I think what we were looking for were the kind of gifts

that the church needs to be fruitful.

And Cardinal Prevost

had a remarkable range of gifts and experience.

THEY SPEAK ITALIAN

LAUGHTER

You know, he is a person who is very humble,

you know, unassuming.

He's not one person who would make his importance felt,

who would remind others of his weight and his importance.

No, he's a regular human being, you know?

Thank you for this wonderful reception.

They say when they clap at the beginning,

it doesn't matter much.

If you're still awake at the end and you still want to applaud,

thank you very much.

APPLAUSE

One thing that I also appreciate is he listens

and then he weighs things.

He studies an issue, a question, before making a decision.

So in that sense, he's a person of balanced study and discernment

before going to a decision.

CHEERING

My first impression of him was a man of enormous stillness,

quietness, repose.

He had this surprising gentleness.

And you just had that sense of a man who is able to share his life

and to receive life from other people.

Well, Pope Leo XIV has formally taken up his role

as leader of the Catholic Church

with an inaugural mass in St Peter's Square.

Now, according to the tradition and the rule,

during the mass of the inauguration of the papal ministry,

the Holy Father is given a ring.

This is a sign of their commitment -

just like a wedding, a marriage,

of the pastor to the church,

which is the body of Christ.

The ring of the Pope - they call it the Fisherman's Ring.

And this ring is to be given to the new pope

by a cardinal bishop.

And I was told, "You give the ring."

Now, at first, I said, "Why me? Why me?"

Beatissimae Pater...

..episcopus et pastor Animarum nostrorum...

Peter was entrusted by Jesus, no, in the Sea of Galilee

with this ministry. Now you, Holy Father,

you now succeed to Peter.

Now I was, you know, trying to even control my emotions,

because just saying that...

..addressing the Holy Father...

Ah, I said again, "Who am I?"

You know? And then saying that in the name of...

..not just the cardinals, but of the church.

And reminding him of his mission.

It was moving for me,

but I felt really moved when I saw his reaction...

..because he looked at the ring and probably said, "This is it...

HE LAUGHS

.."now. This ring really seals...

"..seals my ministry."

In the process of the conclave,

everybody was very aware that the prize

for winning this election is the cross.

The person's life changes from top to bottom.

So he'll never be able to slip out for a pizza.

He'll never be able to go home again.

It is a total gift of self,

and therefore it's a burden.

And I think that's why it's so important to see it

as a discernment of God's will...

..and not as an aspect of human ambition.