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[sirens blare]
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[siren continues]
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[woman] So, this is the first time
that I've come back.
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It's almost five years to the day, so…
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It's a bit of an icky feeling actually.
It's, yeah, kind of…
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Yeah, just the thought of the fact
that he's near,
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he's… he's somewhere.
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[bell tolls]
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So I'm here because I have a hearing
with the judge.
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The school are going to say
that no crime occurred
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because you have consenting adults.
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[female attorney] We refute
all of these absurd allegations
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which are made with no evidence.
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The accusations currently being circulated
include rape, grooming,
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kidnapping, human trafficking,
and the accusation of mind control.
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[rhythmic drumming and chanting]
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[woman 2] I devoted myself whole-heartedly
to the teachings.
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They worked. They really worked.
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[woman 3] "You might feel scared.
You might feel repulsed.
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You might feel overwhelmed
or like you wanna leave.
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That's okay, that's just your ego."
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[woman 4] This
is going to change your life.
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This is a tantric master.
You are going to absorb his qualities.
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[woman 5] He came
in the middle of the night.
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He touched, with his finger,
the sole of my feet, while I was sleeping
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and I woke up like that.
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"It's your turn."
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I kind of trusted that these people
wouldn't let anything bad happen to me.
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I trusted him.
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He has been surveilled since 1971.
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Young women
were still being taken to Bivolaru.
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[crowd shouting]
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[man] The guy is a wanted fugitive
on INTERPOL's red list.
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[woman 6] Europe, Japan,
all of Scandinavia.
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Oh, my God. It's everywhere.
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This person is working at the level
of really black, dark magic.
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He's very dark and he's very powerful.
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Something snapped.
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I need to go.
I need to get out of here right now.
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[microphone crackles]
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[child] Okay,
here we're in our holiday house
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with all the old stuff from the…
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It's a very nice house.
Bit small, but very nice.
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And we're going to…
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the bedroom.
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There's one bunk.
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And up top, we have another bunk.
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And there's Ashleigh up there.
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[giggles]
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[Ash] I was pretty lucky.
I grew up in a stable home.
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I had loving parents.
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We grew up in a rural town.
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A good three-hour drive from Melbourne.
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[birds warbling]
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[children singing]
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[Ash] Went to school in town.
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It was pretty uneventful.
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[giggling]
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[Ash] We grew up in a Catholic family.
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Even though I didn't like going to church,
I still had a strong faith.
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Every night, I would say my prayers
before I'd go to sleep.
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And I would have conversations
with my parents about ghosts
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or supernatural phenomena that…
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You know, we were all interested
in those sorts of things
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and we were very open.
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[all cackle]
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I started to get interested in…
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astrology.
It was just an interest, you know?
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I didn't follow it intensely,
but I was interested in astrology.
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I was interested in numerology.
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I was interested in tarot.
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I was interested
in palm readings, psychics.
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As I got older
and started to explore my identity
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and try and figure out who I am
and what I believe in,
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I think that created fertile ground for me
to be really open to, "Well, what next?"
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[boing]
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I had a boyfriend at the time
and we clashed
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because he didn't have
any spiritual beliefs whatsoever.
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I wanted to meet the right person,
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have a family,
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and live a fuller, more meaningful life.
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[laughs wildly]
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Hey, fam! Just in Piccadilly Circus.
Miss you, guys.
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[Ash] I always wanted to move to the UK.
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And so then, in 2018…
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Big Ben in the background.
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…I arrived in London.
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[Big Ben chimes]
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It's a bit "roll-your-eyes", like,
yeah, I was another Aussie in London.
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And then I was newly single.
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And I got a job working in the NHS.
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I was excited at the prospect
of dating again or meeting someone.
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Take you on a little house tour.
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This is the bedroom.
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And this is the lounge room.
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And this is the laundry.
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And this is the kitchen.
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[Ash] One morning,
I was sitting with a client at work
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and I looked at my phone and an old friend
had popped up on the phone.
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Him and Ziggy,
these crazy friends who…
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left the Army
and became these hippies.
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And they would sit on my brother's floor
and make friendship bracelets and…
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they would go to festivals
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and they were just these kind of, like,
bit of an enigma.
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I'd heard this story about how
they'd, like, run off overseas to Europe
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and were devoting their lives to yoga
and being in service of humanity.
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There was a whole heap of messages
from him like, "Hey."
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I can't remember all the messages now,
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but one of them said,
"What's the meaning of life?"
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And so immediately
that piqued my interest.
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[gasps] "Someone
wants to have a philosophical
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or a spiritual conversation."
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And they were saying,
"We've found this yoga school now.
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You know, these days,
yoga's become commercialized.
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It's just hot pants and lycra."
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"And what we've found is the real thing."
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And he sent me, like,
a link to Tara Yoga Centre,
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which is the UK branch
of the Atman Yoga Federation.
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It had an authentic feel to it.
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Quite polished-looking footage.
To me, it looked legit.
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Everyone's there
to better themselves in some way.
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It was exactly what I was looking for.
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So I signed up to the classes.
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And they warn you.
They say, "This course will change you."
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"You will change on this path.
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That will happen.
That's going to happen."
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And I wanted what they had.
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[pulsing drum beat]
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The way that they teach it
is for you to visualize
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the activation of a chakra,
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and the energizing
of certain parts of your body.
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I was so committed.
Like, I would not miss a class.
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They talk about the telluric energies
coming up from the earth.
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You imagine balancing
happening in your body,
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you imagine things becoming unstuck,
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you imagine opening and expansion.
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It's more than just
stretching your muscles. [chuckles]
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There's something spiritual going on
in that process.
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You go to a class
and it's a two-hour class
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and the first hour is a lecture.
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First hour is pure theory
and the second hour is practice.
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And I loved that.
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Because I was like, "Give me the theory,
give me the knowledge."
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And there would be associated handouts
with every lesson.
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And there's 20-plus years of courses
and I was only in year one.
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That was part of the appeal of the classes
is that they just went into so much depth.
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You've got a lot of information
about diet and exercise,
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and looking after yourself,
and living well.
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They got the different types of yoga.
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Karma yoga, Bhakti yoga, Raja yoga,
Laya yoga, Tantra yoga.
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Tantra yoga they've described as,
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"The yoga of extreme expansion
of the field of consciousness
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that includes a complex gamut of methods
and techniques including, among others,
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sexual activity for the purpose
of accelerating spiritual evolution
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by transmuting and sublimating
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the creative sexual potential
for both men and women."
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And so then I'm jumping on Google.
I'm like, "What is tantra?"
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[laughing] And then…
And then…
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I sort of said, "Oh, look,
I don't really know much about it."
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But I think what most people think of
when they hear the word tantra
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is it's something to do with sex.
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It's something to do with… couples
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and… this kind of
slowed-down version of sex.
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It's kind of what we think of, isn't it?
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I was like,
"That sounds really mysterious."
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I messaged Ziggy.
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He told me that the teachings
and the meditation
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and the yoga practice really helped him.
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[birds chirping]
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[Ziggy] From a young age,
I'm not saying it was like this,
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but it certainly felt this way,
that it was me against the world.
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[camera clicks]
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Coming from a broken childhood
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the concept of love and receiving it
was quite unfamiliar to me.
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The foster system is there
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and it functions to a capacity.
It's not perfect,
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but I'm still grateful that it existed.
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When I joined the Army,
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I was, um, trying to find
a sense of belonging
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in a place or a community,
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but it just never sat well.
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I didn't particularly agree
with a lot of what we were doing,
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what we were exposed to.
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So it just led us to go and try
and seek those answers elsewhere.
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In 2016, I just packed up
and left and came to Europe.
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And this yoga school…
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[digital pings]
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…they were all around the world.
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Everywhere.
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I've joined that school in Denmark.
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In the beginning, I was not a great yogi.
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Put me on a mat and it was just,
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"Wow… [laughing] that's not pretty."
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But you really did feel
like you were part of something
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that was just so much grander.
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And it just
had this alluring element to it.
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Possibly because of the way
things unfolded
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in my actual biological family,
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motherless and fatherless,
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relationships, they were always
something that I struggled with.
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I'm not one to say my past relationships
were meaningless,
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but it was clunky,
it was full of mistakes.
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It sort of put me in a space where,
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"Right, I'm this wounded,
closed-off individual
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that's attempted to find love
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and been chewed up
and spat out as a result."
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And that's what led to wanting to go
into this yogi tantric world.
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And what better place to learn and grow?
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I was aware that
it was probably gonna lead
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into this tantric lovemaking ritual,
but I had a lot to learn first.
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[Andrea] This was a global school and…
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I was very much connected
to the one in Sweden.
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For me, it had a huge impact.
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It changed me at a very fundamental level.
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The teachings spoke for themselves.
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I think it transformed my life.
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It transformed the way I saw myself,
the way I saw the world,
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and part of the tantric teachings
is to really wake up.
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Tantra's maybe
four, five thousand years old even.
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Long before Christianity.
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Yoga and tantra are sisters.
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For example, a normal class
would always start
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with at least an hour of yoga.
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And then if we marry
the teachings of the chakras
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with how energy works,
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certain positions,
certain, uh, sexual positions
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are connected to certain chakras,
certain energies.
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One of the goals of tantra
is to awaken this dormant energy.
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They talk about the inner marriage
between Shiva and Shakti within tantra.
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Shiva is the masculine principle
and Shakti is the feminine principle.
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In the meeting with a lover,
there would be a big charge of energy.
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We use that energy
as a vehicle towards spiritual growth.
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I went in whole-hearted
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and I dedicated all my time,
all my energy, everything,
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to the school, to the path.
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Um…
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It was my life.
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Common saying they have
is that the tantric path is like…
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stepping off a country road
onto an express freeway.
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The lessons come fast, they come strong,
and, you know, you… "Be prepared."
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[Ash] Ziggy was really involved
in the school by this point.
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Someone said, "People think that
tantra is about sex, but it's not.
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It's about love. Tantra's about love."
And it's intriguing, right?
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Like, it is intriguing, especially
when you're hearing
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about it being
about living from the heart.
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And about being…
And it being all about love.
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You know, that's…
Who doesn't wanna learn about love?
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[pulsing drum beats]
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I signed up for first-year tantra
and second-year yoga.
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[Andrea] The school, all the knowledge
is not available to everybody.
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You have the normal classes
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and then some people are invited
to take extracurricular classes.
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Where you're invited to attend
maybe a weekend workshop.
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The teachers would choose the students
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that were showing
the most aspiration or the most potential.
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Only people deemed…
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I don't wanna say "worthy",
but I'm going to say it.
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So only people deemed worthy
are allowed in.
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[rhythmic whispering]
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[Andrea] So a little bit
like a secret society.
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[producer] It must have also
been quite compelling.
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Very much so. Yeah, yeah.
Very, um… seductive.
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Somehow, being closer,
being allowed to be closer
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and have closer access to the source
was… was really compelling.
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[Ash] I don't recall
when I first heard the word "guru".
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[Ash] But then the school refers to him
as the spiritual guide.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[producer] And they gave you his name?
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Yeah, Gregorian Bivolaru.
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And that he was Romanian.
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[Ash] He was teaching yoga
during the Communist regime.
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[Ash] He was teaching in secret
because yoga wasn't allowed
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and these sorts of things
were considered a threat to the state.
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And they said he, you know,
went out on a limb to teach yoga.
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So he's a hero, you know,
look what he did for the people.
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[producer] And was there a concept
of where he was?
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I had no idea where he was.
I knew that he was in hiding.
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[Andrea] We'd spoken openly about this
in class that he'd been to prison before.
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And the greats like Mahatma Gandhi was,
you know, persecuted.
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And there were many people
who fought for truth and for the light,
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who've been persecuted over time.
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[Ash] They kind of likened him
to this metaphor of climbing a mountain.
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You need the guide there
who knows the landscape,
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who knows what they're doing,
to guide you there.
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[Ash] A few weeks earlier
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I was told there's a festival in Romania
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for the entire month of August.
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And they said you could write
to the spiritual guide
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and ask to go into The Villa.
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It'd be a perfect opportunity for you
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to learn new techniques
that were specific for women.
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And it'd be great for your transformation.
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So I wrote to the guru.
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"Dear Spiritual Guide Grieg,
my name is Ashleigh
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and I'm currently studying the first year
of the intensive yoga course.
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I've decided to visit Romania
for the summer camp in Costinesti.
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I'm writing to kindly ask
if I may be accepted at The Villa.
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The amazing opportunity
would help me to awaken, explore
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and understand my femininity."
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I did that.
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And there's…
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the photos that you have to send
of you in a bikini.
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And you have to be standing there
holding this…
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piece of paper that has your name,
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your star sign…
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where you're from,
which school you attend.
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And that gets sent away
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to the spiritual guide
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in order to attend the camp.
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Now, I did think it was odd
'cause it's like,
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"Why can't you read my aura
through my clothes?" [chuckles]
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I sent the photos
and then the guru wrote back to me
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and it was like, "Yes! We welcome you
to The Villa, come immediately."
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[announcer] …platform 6.
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[Ash] Costinesti.
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It's on the coast of Romania.
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The town in August
gets swamped with yogis,
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but also with Romanians on holidays.
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[pumping electronic music playing]
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You've got this kinda of juxtaposition
of all these unaware, unconscious people
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drinking, dancing,
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and then you have all these awakened yogis
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trying to open their hearts
and raise their consciousness
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and benefit humanity.
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[indistinct voice over speaker]
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[Ash] And I was gonna spend a month there
and I was gonna do yoga.
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I was excited.
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I hadn't been told much.
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I knew the school originated
in Romania, the guru was Romanian,
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and that most of the students
were Romanian.
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And so that was where they hosted
the main summer camp
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that everyone came to
from all over the world.
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In Denmark,
we had quite a strong school there.
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A really big school,
it was quite established.
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I was a massive high-achiever.
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I was a total nerd.
I got bullied at school.
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Um, I would hide in the library a lot
and I would obsessively read.
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I had been living in Sydney.
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Uh, each time
I would meet a new partner, I would say,
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"Don't even bother trying
to give me pleasure.
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It's not gonna happen. My body's broken.
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But I'm just happy to be here with you
and I want you to feel good."
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So I was a real people-pleaser
in that way.
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But then at 26, I met a partner
who introduced me to this whole other way
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of relating to sexuality and pleasure.
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And I started to feel sensations
I didn't know were possible.
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He told me that it was connected
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to this, um, yoga and meditation tradition
that he'd been practicing.
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He was really wanting to explore more
and go deeper with this.
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That's when he decided
he wanted to go to Denmark
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to do the teacher training
and he invited me to go with him
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and said I would be able to live there
and do voluntary work for the school.
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I was there in Denmark
for nearly three years
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when they said, "You've been invited
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on a special women's retreat
which is happening within the camp.
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It's part of this, um,
thing called The Villa.
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You'll be part of a community of women.
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We'll see you there."
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[Ash] The Villa.
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I didn't… Yeah, I didn't know
what to expect.
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To me, it looked tacky.
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Like it just wasn't my vibe.
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[dog barks]
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It's got tall fences.
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You're not allowed in
unless you have your pass.
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They took my passport.
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They get a Bible out,
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and you have to say,
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"I swear on my health
and my spiritual evolution
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that I will not reveal any of the secrets
or anything that goes on here."
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There was pages and pages of rules.
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They said, "You need to go
to the other room
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and read these rules three times.
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It might take you about an hour or so."
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And then, like,
"Okay, now we do your photos."
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And…
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they said, "You need to strip off. Naked."
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Like, take all your clothes off.
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So they can check your aura
to make sure that your energies are…
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balanced enough to participate.
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And so I took my clothes off
and they take photos front-on
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and side profile.
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[producer] And did you have any
kind of doubts in the back of your mind
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at that point, that it was strange?
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I certainly thought it was strange,
but I don't really know…
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if I questioned it that much.
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I think I was like, "Yeah, this is just…
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This is just how it is."
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And also, I guess it was kind of
empowering to think,
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"Yeah, I'm gonna take my clothes off.
I don't have a problem with my body.
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Sure."
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And then I had to sit down naked
in front of the camera with a microphone
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and answer these questions.
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And they also said, "Oh, if we…
if we ask you about, like, 'him',
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we're talking about the master.
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We will refer to him as 'him'
on the camera.
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We won't use his name. It's just 'him.'"
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They said, "And if you had the opportunity
to meet him, how would you feel?
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What would you say?"
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Or something to that effect.
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And I'm sitting there cross-legged,
completely naked, with a camera on me,
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holding a microphone, and I'm asked that.
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And I said, "Yeah, I…
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I would be extremely nervous
at the thought of that.
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Very intimidated at the thought of that,
but of course I would say yes."
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Women would walk around, like,
naked all the time and I loved that.
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Like, you felt really open and safe.
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You could go to each other for advice
and hold each other and hug each other
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and cook each other food
and it was a community.
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They'd often been in the school
for a few years or at least two years
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before they went into The Villa.
People were surprised,
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"Oh, how long
have you been in the school?"
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"A few months."
"Oh, and you're in The Villa?"
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Like, it was a bit…
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[Miranda] I met women
from America, Germany,
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Portugal, Brazil, Greece, Thailand,
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they come from all over the world.
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I was a first-year student
and I went weekly to the classes
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and, you know, I already
saw a difference in myself
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and my life, compared with a year,
certainly two years, previously.
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My relationships were improving,
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my sense of self
had just completely changed
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and that felt really exciting.
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I decided that I should quit my job
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and dedicate myself to this full time.
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And so you have all of these women there
that seem to be running the show.
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They're sort of, I think,
sort of almost mother figures.
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They're running around.
They're organizing things.
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And almost all of the women in The Villa
would be like,
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first question, "What's your star sign?"
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Second or third question,
"Are you doing Miss Shakti?"
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[Ash] Miss Universe-type style pageants.
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And they created these videos of them
for the guru.
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And I have to say, I was pretty surprised.
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Women dancing, quite seductively.
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They're all kind of adorned
with jewels and headdresses.
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With, like, the whole camp,
you know, watching.
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Miss Shakti is another level, really.
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It's kind of the basis of the whole camp.
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They teach this idea
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that when you empty yourself
of your person,
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you are channeling and you are asking
that other character, or entity,
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or energy, or goddess, to come into you.
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And you become them
for that period in time.
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Transfiguration, as they call it.
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I'm inviting in the spirit of…
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the goddess Kali.
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It feels real.
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And I don't know…
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how to explain why, in a rational way.
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It's a contest
and there's a winner. [laughs]
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And a first, second and third place.
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But ultimately, you're not competing
against the other people,
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it's about competing, you know,
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against yourself
or becoming a better version of you.
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[Miranda] For a woman who's grown up
having shame
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and judgement around your body,
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thinking that I was fat.
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00:30:30,706 --> 00:30:37,045
In the school, there's this idea
that your body is sacred
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and it's not some kind of object.
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[Ash] Sitting and watching this,
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you see this really quiet,
reserved, shy person
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and then through Miss Shakti,
all of a sudden,
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they're in a micro-bikini on stage
like a sex bomb.
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I was like, "A micro-bikini?" [laughs]
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[Ash] And so many women,
I can't tell you how many there were.
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00:31:07,451 --> 00:31:11,121
And I knew that some of the higher,
like, the later stages,
468
00:31:11,205 --> 00:31:13,040
there's a few secret stages.
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00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:33,727
[Miranda] I got kicked out
after the first round.
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At the time, I was devastated.
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And I thought, "Okay,
was it because I'm too much in my ego?
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Was it because, you know, I had
the wrong energy during the performance?
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00:31:45,447 --> 00:31:46,782
I… You know, why?
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00:31:46,865 --> 00:31:50,953
What was it about me
meant that I was kicked out at this stage?
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00:31:51,912 --> 00:31:55,707
What's my spiritual guide
trying to show me here?"
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00:31:59,378 --> 00:32:01,547
Like, some things I felt were a bit weird.
477
00:32:01,630 --> 00:32:02,881
There was a…
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00:32:02,965 --> 00:32:05,759
I remember there was an exercise once
that was on conscious touch
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and I think you just
kind of closed your eyes
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and then everybody had their hands on you.
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But then there was this other one
they did right at the end of the month.
482
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:18,689
It was called an integration.
483
00:32:19,815 --> 00:32:24,236
And almost all of the women in The Villa
were planning to participate.
484
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,781
You had to put your name down if you were
going to participate in the integration.
485
00:32:27,865 --> 00:32:30,742
And if you weren't going to participate,
you had to leave the building
486
00:32:30,826 --> 00:32:33,412
for the duration of the few hours
that it was going on.
487
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,875
And then they started talking
about, um, the technique
488
00:32:39,084 --> 00:32:40,919
which is using the urine.
489
00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:44,631
Which they called the Golden Elixir.
490
00:32:44,715 --> 00:32:48,760
Which is where you're exchanging…
the Golden Elixir.
491
00:32:48,844 --> 00:32:50,429
[laughing] You're exchanging the urine.
492
00:32:50,512 --> 00:32:54,683
After at least 45 minutes
of lovemaking or "charging",
493
00:32:54,766 --> 00:32:56,143
so that it's then "charged."
494
00:32:56,226 --> 00:32:59,605
And that's how you supposedly integrate
the qualities of the partner.
495
00:32:59,688 --> 00:33:02,191
It's like the ultimate kind of connection
and closeness
496
00:33:02,274 --> 00:33:05,819
because you are then drinking
and embodying
497
00:33:05,903 --> 00:33:07,738
these qualities of your partner.
498
00:33:08,614 --> 00:33:09,615
I…
499
00:33:10,616 --> 00:33:13,869
I don't… I didn't want to.
I wasn't… I didn't want to.
500
00:33:17,956 --> 00:33:18,956
So, I…
501
00:33:19,791 --> 00:33:22,377
I sat in the room for it.
And we went into the room,
502
00:33:22,461 --> 00:33:25,297
they had all, like, the…
It was all kind of ritualized.
503
00:33:28,467 --> 00:33:30,219
And then it was just an orgy.
504
00:33:30,302 --> 00:33:32,387
It was just a massive orgy
of all these women.
505
00:33:33,013 --> 00:33:34,013
No men.
506
00:33:38,393 --> 00:33:43,440
And I just sat there, watching,
in a kind of a meditative posture.
507
00:33:44,483 --> 00:33:46,735
And just kind of… just observed.
508
00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:51,490
And then they start passing a bowl around
509
00:33:51,573 --> 00:33:54,117
and they're all collectively peeing
into the bowl.
510
00:33:57,579 --> 00:33:59,748
And then they're bottling it afterwards
511
00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:03,544
into these little vials so that they can
put a couple of drops in their water
512
00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:06,922
so that they can keep embodying
the qualities.
513
00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:10,717
I seemed like I was the only one
that didn't want to. Like it was…
514
00:34:10,801 --> 00:34:14,596
But I rationalized it as,
"Well, I'm not evolved enough.
515
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,349
Maybe one day, I'll be more evolved.
I'm just not there."
516
00:34:19,101 --> 00:34:21,311
[Miranda] When I first did it myself,
517
00:34:22,271 --> 00:34:23,730
it grossed me out.
518
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:30,862
And I had a moment of being like,
"What… What am I doing?"
519
00:34:30,946 --> 00:34:34,032
You know, it felt weird,
but there was also this sense of…
520
00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:40,371
like, love and acceptance
at a very deep level.
521
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:43,166
It was certainly intriguing.
522
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:46,712
But I think I was also just nursing
or holding onto all the shame
523
00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:49,505
that I couldn't bring myself
to be involved.
524
00:34:50,966 --> 00:34:51,966
And…
525
00:34:52,009 --> 00:34:54,469
[producer] So you would've liked
to have been able to?
526
00:34:55,219 --> 00:34:57,472
I would've liked to have wanted to.
527
00:34:58,098 --> 00:34:59,725
I wanted to want to.
528
00:35:11,737 --> 00:35:15,991
Arriving back in the UK,
I was just confused and disorientated.
529
00:35:19,328 --> 00:35:21,246
"I need to get past my blockages.
530
00:35:22,497 --> 00:35:26,502
All these fears and anxieties coming up
just represent the ego.
531
00:35:27,503 --> 00:35:30,130
And, of course the ego's gonna
try and stop you and block you
532
00:35:30,214 --> 00:35:32,466
at every twist and turn
along your spiritual path.
533
00:35:32,549 --> 00:35:35,052
And your job
is to keep destroying the ego.
534
00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:36,470
Keep quelling the ego.
535
00:35:36,553 --> 00:35:41,558
Keep surrendering
and moving past the ego."
536
00:35:46,396 --> 00:35:50,067
Ziggy's influence was pretty significant.
537
00:35:51,985 --> 00:35:53,820
I talked to him at length.
538
00:35:56,865 --> 00:35:58,951
[Ziggy] Everything up until that point
for herself
539
00:35:59,034 --> 00:36:02,120
had seemed just a little bit off-color
540
00:36:02,204 --> 00:36:05,040
for her to want to engage with it
any further.
541
00:36:07,084 --> 00:36:10,420
She certainly struggled
with a lot of the practices.
542
00:36:13,423 --> 00:36:17,094
Her hearing how I've integrated
a lot of the teachings
543
00:36:17,177 --> 00:36:19,137
certainly made her feel more comfortable,
544
00:36:19,221 --> 00:36:24,560
or at least reassured that you can
live a somewhat normal life
545
00:36:24,643 --> 00:36:26,311
surrounding the school.
546
00:36:29,022 --> 00:36:33,819
In Denmark, I was getting brought closer
into the core of the community.
547
00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:40,534
And I had the opportunity to be initiated
into the art of tantric lovemaking.
548
00:36:42,995 --> 00:36:47,541
Paula had been at the school
maybe three years before I'd gotten there.
549
00:36:49,459 --> 00:36:53,463
I knew there'd be a series of postures
within lovemaking.
550
00:36:53,547 --> 00:36:58,552
She guided me through that
in the most loving and caring way.
551
00:36:58,635 --> 00:37:03,307
And it really did feel like a…
a de-arming of the chest and of the heart.
552
00:37:03,390 --> 00:37:06,393
I can feel and relate to myself again.
553
00:37:06,476 --> 00:37:09,563
You know, this has been absent
for so long.
554
00:37:13,775 --> 00:37:16,737
Paula had been
in several relationships by this stage.
555
00:37:17,362 --> 00:37:20,324
She did receive
those initiation techniques so…
556
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,619
I was just having it handed on to me.
557
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:26,079
Mmm.
558
00:37:30,209 --> 00:37:31,960
[Andrea] The tantric tradition
559
00:37:32,044 --> 00:37:37,382
has always been very much
that it's by initiation only.
560
00:37:39,468 --> 00:37:43,096
Because it's not enough
to just tell somebody who's struggling,
561
00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,682
"Yeah, just go and do some more practice."
562
00:37:46,266 --> 00:37:49,186
The… We need to do deeper work than that
563
00:37:49,269 --> 00:37:52,481
and we need to look at ourselves
much deeper than that.
564
00:37:55,025 --> 00:37:57,778
Some things, I can learn from lecturers.
565
00:37:57,861 --> 00:38:00,739
Some things I can learn from yoga,
meditation, whatever.
566
00:38:02,491 --> 00:38:07,162
But there are some experiences
that are only possible
567
00:38:07,246 --> 00:38:10,290
through the direct contact
with the teacher.
568
00:38:12,709 --> 00:38:18,215
There are certain things
that he has to take me through himself.
569
00:38:20,259 --> 00:38:23,804
This was not possible
through anybody else.
570
00:38:23,887 --> 00:38:28,559
That it was really an initiation from,
like, the master to the student.
571
00:38:31,687 --> 00:38:34,273
- [children playing]
- [birds chirping]
572
00:38:36,233 --> 00:38:39,903
[Ash] The receptionist at Tara Yoga,
she messaged me saying,
573
00:38:39,987 --> 00:38:43,031
"Hey, sweetie,
are you coming into the center today?
574
00:38:43,115 --> 00:38:45,492
I wanna talk to you about something."
575
00:38:45,576 --> 00:38:48,412
And she was looking for a private room
and she couldn't find one
576
00:38:48,495 --> 00:38:50,497
because a lot of the studios
were being used.
577
00:38:50,581 --> 00:38:53,667
So she ended up taking me
into, like, this cupboard.
578
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:56,837
It was like a storage…
It was like a storage room.
579
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,589
And she said, "Oh, do you remember
580
00:38:58,672 --> 00:39:03,218
when we, um, were in The Villa
and we had to put down dates
581
00:39:03,302 --> 00:39:06,847
that we might be available
to visit the guru?"
582
00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:10,767
And she said,
"Well, he's… He's invited you.
583
00:39:10,851 --> 00:39:12,686
You've been invited to go and meet him.
584
00:39:12,769 --> 00:39:15,105
It's integrated for you on these dates.
585
00:39:16,481 --> 00:39:20,319
But it's all secret.
You know, you can't tell anyone else.
586
00:39:20,402 --> 00:39:23,071
You need to book your transport
and we'll pay you back for it.
587
00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:27,409
And the location where you need to go,
where you need to book to, is Paris."
588
00:39:39,505 --> 00:39:41,256
[man in French] I am head
of the Central Office
589
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:43,383
for Combating Violence against People,
590
00:39:44,676 --> 00:39:47,346
fighting against the most serious attacks.
591
00:39:47,429 --> 00:39:51,183
We operate at a national level
and handle investigations across France
592
00:39:51,266 --> 00:39:53,810
and we also collaborate
with foreign forces.
593
00:39:54,937 --> 00:39:56,855
[both speaking French]
594
00:39:56,939 --> 00:40:01,109
[Dannerolle] Caimades is a special unit
for investigating cult crimes.
595
00:40:02,277 --> 00:40:04,863
It's important to specify that Caimades
596
00:40:04,947 --> 00:40:08,909
does not police beliefs or thoughts.
597
00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:11,495
That's not our role. People are free
to believe what they want.
598
00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:16,708
However, if an offense
is taking place in a cult,
599
00:40:16,792 --> 00:40:18,961
then our role is to intervene.
600
00:40:20,796 --> 00:40:23,757
This case was really massive for us
601
00:40:24,466 --> 00:40:26,885
in terms of scale of investigation.
602
00:40:28,095 --> 00:40:30,264
It is an international movement.
603
00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:34,726
The charges against the members
of this movement
604
00:40:34,810 --> 00:40:35,811
were as follows:
605
00:40:37,312 --> 00:40:38,856
human trafficking,
606
00:40:40,607 --> 00:40:41,692
rape,
607
00:40:43,068 --> 00:40:46,530
exploitation of vulnerable individuals
in states of psychological influence.
608
00:40:49,575 --> 00:40:52,911
[Ash] What's that saying? "When the…
609
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:56,331
When the student is ready,
the teacher appears."
610
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,458
So, clearly I was ready.
611
00:40:58,542 --> 00:41:03,672
The student was ready, I was ripe.
I was ready and the teacher appeared.
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