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It's, yeah, kind of… 6 00:00:38,372 --> 00:00:41,166 Yeah, just the thought of the fact that he's near, 7 00:00:41,250 --> 00:00:42,751 he's… he's somewhere. 8 00:00:42,835 --> 00:00:45,128 [bell tolls] 9 00:00:50,259 --> 00:00:55,389 So I'm here because I have a hearing with the judge. 10 00:00:58,058 --> 00:01:01,270 The school are going to say that no crime occurred 11 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:04,147 because you have consenting adults. 12 00:01:06,525 --> 00:01:09,528 [female attorney] We refute all of these absurd allegations 13 00:01:09,611 --> 00:01:11,697 which are made with no evidence. 14 00:01:14,366 --> 00:01:19,830 The accusations currently being circulated include rape, grooming, 15 00:01:19,913 --> 00:01:25,794 kidnapping, human trafficking, and the accusation of mind control. 16 00:01:26,837 --> 00:01:30,716 [rhythmic drumming and chanting] 17 00:01:33,468 --> 00:01:36,805 [woman 2] I devoted myself whole-heartedly to the teachings. 18 00:01:37,598 --> 00:01:39,349 They worked. They really worked. 19 00:01:43,353 --> 00:01:45,647 [woman 3] "You might feel scared. You might feel repulsed. 20 00:01:45,731 --> 00:01:47,733 You might feel overwhelmed or like you wanna leave. 21 00:01:47,816 --> 00:01:50,319 That's okay, that's just your ego." 22 00:01:54,907 --> 00:01:57,201 [woman 4] This is going to change your life. 23 00:01:57,576 --> 00:02:01,288 This is a tantric master. You are going to absorb his qualities. 24 00:02:05,542 --> 00:02:07,461 [woman 5] He came in the middle of the night. 25 00:02:08,127 --> 00:02:11,673 He touched, with his finger, the sole of my feet, while I was sleeping 26 00:02:11,757 --> 00:02:12,883 and I woke up like that. 27 00:02:13,634 --> 00:02:14,676 "It's your turn." 28 00:02:16,637 --> 00:02:20,516 I kind of trusted that these people wouldn't let anything bad happen to me. 29 00:02:21,016 --> 00:02:22,434 I trusted him. 30 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:28,273 He has been surveilled since 1971. 31 00:02:32,736 --> 00:02:36,740 Young women were still being taken to Bivolaru. 32 00:02:36,823 --> 00:02:38,617 [crowd shouting] 33 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:41,995 [man] The guy is a wanted fugitive on INTERPOL's red list. 34 00:02:42,079 --> 00:02:44,581 [woman 6] Europe, Japan, all of Scandinavia. 35 00:02:44,665 --> 00:02:48,001 Oh, my God. It's everywhere. 36 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:52,297 This person is working at the level of really black, dark magic. 37 00:02:52,381 --> 00:02:54,466 He's very dark and he's very powerful. 38 00:02:55,676 --> 00:02:56,969 Something snapped. 39 00:02:57,052 --> 00:03:00,055 I need to go. I need to get out of here right now. 40 00:03:19,116 --> 00:03:21,118 [microphone crackles] 41 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,287 [child] Okay, here we're in our holiday house 42 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:24,872 with all the old stuff from the… 43 00:03:26,123 --> 00:03:29,626 It's a very nice house. Bit small, but very nice. 44 00:03:30,169 --> 00:03:31,753 And we're going to… 45 00:03:33,088 --> 00:03:34,088 the bedroom. 46 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:36,175 There's one bunk. 47 00:03:36,925 --> 00:03:39,136 And up top, we have another bunk. 48 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:41,263 And there's Ashleigh up there. 49 00:03:41,847 --> 00:03:43,807 [giggles] 50 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:46,643 [Ash] I was pretty lucky. I grew up in a stable home. 51 00:03:46,727 --> 00:03:47,895 I had loving parents. 52 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:52,900 We grew up in a rural town. 53 00:03:53,358 --> 00:03:56,695 A good three-hour drive from Melbourne. 54 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:58,739 [birds warbling] 55 00:03:58,822 --> 00:04:00,407 [children singing] 56 00:04:00,490 --> 00:04:02,201 [Ash] Went to school in town. 57 00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:05,746 It was pretty uneventful. 58 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:08,081 [giggling] 59 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:13,212 [Ash] We grew up in a Catholic family. 60 00:04:15,047 --> 00:04:17,966 Even though I didn't like going to church, I still had a strong faith. 61 00:04:18,716 --> 00:04:21,011 Every night, I would say my prayers before I'd go to sleep. 62 00:04:22,721 --> 00:04:26,558 And I would have conversations with my parents about ghosts 63 00:04:26,642 --> 00:04:29,019 or supernatural phenomena that… 64 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:31,647 You know, we were all interested in those sorts of things 65 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:33,190 and we were very open. 66 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:34,273 [all cackle] 67 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:35,859 I started to get interested in… 68 00:04:36,860 --> 00:04:39,154 astrology. It was just an interest, you know? 69 00:04:39,238 --> 00:04:43,200 I didn't follow it intensely, but I was interested in astrology. 70 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:45,369 I was interested in numerology. 71 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:46,995 I was interested in tarot. 72 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:49,790 I was interested in palm readings, psychics. 73 00:04:52,167 --> 00:04:55,420 As I got older and started to explore my identity 74 00:04:55,504 --> 00:04:57,798 and try and figure out who I am and what I believe in, 75 00:04:57,881 --> 00:05:02,761 I think that created fertile ground for me to be really open to, "Well, what next?" 76 00:05:04,555 --> 00:05:05,555 [boing] 77 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:08,475 I had a boyfriend at the time and we clashed 78 00:05:08,559 --> 00:05:11,979 because he didn't have any spiritual beliefs whatsoever. 79 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:16,316 I wanted to meet the right person, 80 00:05:16,942 --> 00:05:17,942 have a family, 81 00:05:19,361 --> 00:05:23,198 and live a fuller, more meaningful life. 82 00:05:23,907 --> 00:05:25,325 [laughs wildly] 83 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:35,794 Hey, fam! Just in Piccadilly Circus. Miss you, guys. 84 00:05:35,878 --> 00:05:37,588 [Ash] I always wanted to move to the UK. 85 00:05:38,297 --> 00:05:39,798 And so then, in 2018… 86 00:05:39,882 --> 00:05:41,258 Big Ben in the background. 87 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:42,593 …I arrived in London. 88 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:44,178 [Big Ben chimes] 89 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:47,014 It's a bit "roll-your-eyes", like, yeah, I was another Aussie in London. 90 00:05:50,559 --> 00:05:52,728 And then I was newly single. 91 00:05:54,646 --> 00:05:56,940 And I got a job working in the NHS. 92 00:05:58,483 --> 00:06:02,112 I was excited at the prospect of dating again or meeting someone. 93 00:06:02,196 --> 00:06:03,822 Take you on a little house tour. 94 00:06:04,239 --> 00:06:06,033 This is the bedroom. 95 00:06:08,285 --> 00:06:10,996 And this is the lounge room. 96 00:06:11,622 --> 00:06:13,999 And this is the laundry. 97 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:16,043 And this is the kitchen. 98 00:06:17,961 --> 00:06:20,380 [Ash] One morning, I was sitting with a client at work 99 00:06:20,464 --> 00:06:24,426 and I looked at my phone and an old friend had popped up on the phone. 100 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:27,471 Him and Ziggy, these crazy friends who… 101 00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:29,723 left the Army and became these hippies. 102 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:33,477 And they would sit on my brother's floor and make friendship bracelets and… 103 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,479 they would go to festivals 104 00:06:35,562 --> 00:06:37,981 and they were just these kind of, like, bit of an enigma. 105 00:06:39,650 --> 00:06:43,237 I'd heard this story about how they'd, like, run off overseas to Europe 106 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,325 and were devoting their lives to yoga and being in service of humanity. 107 00:06:49,117 --> 00:06:51,328 There was a whole heap of messages from him like, "Hey." 108 00:06:51,954 --> 00:06:53,914 I can't remember all the messages now, 109 00:06:53,997 --> 00:06:56,708 but one of them said, "What's the meaning of life?" 110 00:06:58,377 --> 00:07:00,462 And so immediately that piqued my interest. 111 00:07:00,546 --> 00:07:02,798 [gasps] "Someone wants to have a philosophical 112 00:07:02,881 --> 00:07:05,259 or a spiritual conversation." 113 00:07:06,218 --> 00:07:09,847 And they were saying, "We've found this yoga school now. 114 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:13,141 You know, these days, yoga's become commercialized. 115 00:07:13,225 --> 00:07:14,852 It's just hot pants and lycra." 116 00:07:16,645 --> 00:07:19,481 "And what we've found is the real thing." 117 00:07:20,566 --> 00:07:24,486 And he sent me, like, a link to Tara Yoga Centre, 118 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:27,573 which is the UK branch of the Atman Yoga Federation. 119 00:07:35,289 --> 00:07:37,833 It had an authentic feel to it. 120 00:07:39,334 --> 00:07:43,422 Quite polished-looking footage. To me, it looked legit. 121 00:07:44,756 --> 00:07:48,135 Everyone's there to better themselves in some way. 122 00:07:49,887 --> 00:07:52,306 It was exactly what I was looking for. 123 00:07:53,098 --> 00:07:55,058 So I signed up to the classes. 124 00:07:59,521 --> 00:08:02,149 And they warn you. They say, "This course will change you." 125 00:08:06,862 --> 00:08:08,322 "You will change on this path. 126 00:08:09,698 --> 00:08:11,533 That will happen. That's going to happen." 127 00:08:17,372 --> 00:08:19,583 And I wanted what they had. 128 00:08:22,044 --> 00:08:23,921 [pulsing drum beat] 129 00:08:27,841 --> 00:08:30,177 The way that they teach it is for you to visualize 130 00:08:30,260 --> 00:08:31,678 the activation of a chakra, 131 00:08:32,346 --> 00:08:35,890 and the energizing of certain parts of your body. 132 00:08:40,604 --> 00:08:43,857 I was so committed. Like, I would not miss a class. 133 00:08:55,327 --> 00:08:58,247 They talk about the telluric energies coming up from the earth. 134 00:09:00,958 --> 00:09:03,335 You imagine balancing happening in your body, 135 00:09:03,418 --> 00:09:05,963 you imagine things becoming unstuck, 136 00:09:06,046 --> 00:09:08,298 you imagine opening and expansion. 137 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:14,555 It's more than just stretching your muscles. [chuckles] 138 00:09:17,182 --> 00:09:19,643 There's something spiritual going on in that process. 139 00:09:24,356 --> 00:09:26,733 You go to a class and it's a two-hour class 140 00:09:26,817 --> 00:09:28,944 and the first hour is a lecture. 141 00:09:29,319 --> 00:09:33,073 First hour is pure theory and the second hour is practice. 142 00:09:33,156 --> 00:09:34,059 And I loved that. 143 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:36,952 Because I was like, "Give me the theory, give me the knowledge." 144 00:09:37,035 --> 00:09:39,872 And there would be associated handouts with every lesson. 145 00:09:41,498 --> 00:09:44,877 And there's 20-plus years of courses and I was only in year one. 146 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:51,133 That was part of the appeal of the classes is that they just went into so much depth. 147 00:09:51,842 --> 00:09:55,262 You've got a lot of information about diet and exercise, 148 00:09:55,345 --> 00:09:57,347 and looking after yourself, and living well. 149 00:09:58,098 --> 00:09:59,808 They got the different types of yoga. 150 00:09:59,892 --> 00:10:05,772 Karma yoga, Bhakti yoga, Raja yoga, Laya yoga, Tantra yoga. 151 00:10:06,231 --> 00:10:07,941 Tantra yoga they've described as, 152 00:10:08,025 --> 00:10:11,445 "The yoga of extreme expansion of the field of consciousness 153 00:10:11,528 --> 00:10:15,574 that includes a complex gamut of methods and techniques including, among others, 154 00:10:15,657 --> 00:10:19,161 sexual activity for the purpose of accelerating spiritual evolution 155 00:10:19,244 --> 00:10:21,038 by transmuting and sublimating 156 00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:23,832 the creative sexual potential for both men and women." 157 00:10:26,001 --> 00:10:28,629 And so then I'm jumping on Google. I'm like, "What is tantra?" 158 00:10:28,712 --> 00:10:30,881 [laughing] And then… And then… 159 00:10:31,673 --> 00:10:33,759 I sort of said, "Oh, look, I don't really know much about it." 160 00:10:33,842 --> 00:10:37,262 But I think what most people think of when they hear the word tantra 161 00:10:37,346 --> 00:10:38,889 is it's something to do with sex. 162 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:42,100 It's something to do with… couples 163 00:10:42,184 --> 00:10:45,729 and… this kind of slowed-down version of sex. 164 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,356 It's kind of what we think of, isn't it? 165 00:10:47,898 --> 00:10:50,859 I was like, "That sounds really mysterious." 166 00:10:51,485 --> 00:10:52,528 I messaged Ziggy. 167 00:10:53,695 --> 00:10:56,573 He told me that the teachings and the meditation 168 00:10:56,657 --> 00:10:58,867 and the yoga practice really helped him. 169 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,162 [birds chirping] 170 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:10,629 [Ziggy] From a young age, I'm not saying it was like this, 171 00:11:10,712 --> 00:11:14,174 but it certainly felt this way, that it was me against the world. 172 00:11:17,219 --> 00:11:18,220 [camera clicks] 173 00:11:18,971 --> 00:11:21,181 Coming from a broken childhood 174 00:11:21,265 --> 00:11:26,019 the concept of love and receiving it was quite unfamiliar to me. 175 00:11:27,813 --> 00:11:29,898 The foster system is there 176 00:11:29,982 --> 00:11:33,110 and it functions to a capacity. It's not perfect, 177 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,279 but I'm still grateful that it existed. 178 00:11:37,906 --> 00:11:39,533 When I joined the Army, 179 00:11:39,616 --> 00:11:43,036 I was, um, trying to find a sense of belonging 180 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,122 in a place or a community, 181 00:11:46,164 --> 00:11:48,333 but it just never sat well. 182 00:11:49,251 --> 00:11:52,588 I didn't particularly agree with a lot of what we were doing, 183 00:11:52,671 --> 00:11:54,047 what we were exposed to. 184 00:11:54,882 --> 00:11:58,385 So it just led us to go and try and seek those answers elsewhere. 185 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:05,893 In 2016, I just packed up and left and came to Europe. 186 00:12:10,647 --> 00:12:11,940 And this yoga school… 187 00:12:12,024 --> 00:12:13,010 [digital pings] 188 00:12:13,025 --> 00:12:14,860 …they were all around the world. 189 00:12:14,943 --> 00:12:15,943 Everywhere. 190 00:12:27,623 --> 00:12:29,875 I've joined that school in Denmark. 191 00:12:33,837 --> 00:12:37,090 In the beginning, I was not a great yogi. 192 00:12:38,050 --> 00:12:40,177 Put me on a mat and it was just, 193 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:42,888 "Wow… [laughing] that's not pretty." 194 00:12:43,305 --> 00:12:45,724 But you really did feel like you were part of something 195 00:12:45,807 --> 00:12:47,559 that was just so much grander. 196 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:53,565 And it just had this alluring element to it. 197 00:12:57,361 --> 00:13:00,531 Possibly because of the way things unfolded 198 00:13:00,614 --> 00:13:03,033 in my actual biological family, 199 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,868 motherless and fatherless, 200 00:13:05,494 --> 00:13:08,830 relationships, they were always something that I struggled with. 201 00:13:11,792 --> 00:13:14,545 I'm not one to say my past relationships were meaningless, 202 00:13:14,628 --> 00:13:17,214 but it was clunky, it was full of mistakes. 203 00:13:18,507 --> 00:13:20,425 It sort of put me in a space where, 204 00:13:20,509 --> 00:13:24,763 "Right, I'm this wounded, closed-off individual 205 00:13:24,847 --> 00:13:27,349 that's attempted to find love 206 00:13:27,432 --> 00:13:30,644 and been chewed up and spat out as a result." 207 00:13:31,228 --> 00:13:35,983 And that's what led to wanting to go into this yogi tantric world. 208 00:13:37,568 --> 00:13:40,696 And what better place to learn and grow? 209 00:13:42,364 --> 00:13:44,700 I was aware that it was probably gonna lead 210 00:13:44,783 --> 00:13:50,330 into this tantric lovemaking ritual, but I had a lot to learn first. 211 00:14:02,968 --> 00:14:06,013 [Andrea] This was a global school and… 212 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:09,349 I was very much connected to the one in Sweden. 213 00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:17,816 For me, it had a huge impact. 214 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:23,989 It changed me at a very fundamental level. 215 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:27,367 The teachings spoke for themselves. 216 00:14:28,911 --> 00:14:30,704 I think it transformed my life. 217 00:14:31,205 --> 00:14:35,751 It transformed the way I saw myself, the way I saw the world, 218 00:14:35,834 --> 00:14:39,796 and part of the tantric teachings is to really wake up. 219 00:14:45,802 --> 00:14:50,432 Tantra's maybe four, five thousand years old even. 220 00:14:51,558 --> 00:14:53,185 Long before Christianity. 221 00:14:55,562 --> 00:14:57,981 Yoga and tantra are sisters. 222 00:14:58,065 --> 00:15:01,360 For example, a normal class would always start 223 00:15:01,443 --> 00:15:03,445 with at least an hour of yoga. 224 00:15:05,531 --> 00:15:10,035 And then if we marry the teachings of the chakras 225 00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:11,995 with how energy works, 226 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:15,040 certain positions, certain, uh, sexual positions 227 00:15:15,123 --> 00:15:18,126 are connected to certain chakras, certain energies. 228 00:15:22,047 --> 00:15:27,469 One of the goals of tantra is to awaken this dormant energy. 229 00:15:29,721 --> 00:15:34,560 They talk about the inner marriage between Shiva and Shakti within tantra. 230 00:15:36,311 --> 00:15:41,316 Shiva is the masculine principle and Shakti is the feminine principle. 231 00:15:43,443 --> 00:15:49,241 In the meeting with a lover, there would be a big charge of energy. 232 00:15:52,619 --> 00:15:56,623 We use that energy as a vehicle towards spiritual growth. 233 00:15:59,209 --> 00:16:00,794 I went in whole-hearted 234 00:16:00,878 --> 00:16:04,756 and I dedicated all my time, all my energy, everything, 235 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,259 to the school, to the path. 236 00:16:07,551 --> 00:16:08,760 Um… 237 00:16:08,844 --> 00:16:09,928 It was my life. 238 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:16,018 Common saying they have is that the tantric path is like… 239 00:16:17,102 --> 00:16:19,980 stepping off a country road onto an express freeway. 240 00:16:20,898 --> 00:16:27,070 The lessons come fast, they come strong, and, you know, you… "Be prepared." 241 00:16:29,281 --> 00:16:32,075 [Ash] Ziggy was really involved in the school by this point. 242 00:16:34,328 --> 00:16:37,539 Someone said, "People think that tantra is about sex, but it's not. 243 00:16:37,623 --> 00:16:41,001 It's about love. Tantra's about love." And it's intriguing, right? 244 00:16:41,084 --> 00:16:43,170 Like, it is intriguing, especially when you're hearing 245 00:16:43,253 --> 00:16:46,131 about it being about living from the heart. 246 00:16:46,548 --> 00:16:49,426 And about being… And it being all about love. 247 00:16:49,510 --> 00:16:51,970 You know, that's… Who doesn't wanna learn about love? 248 00:16:52,054 --> 00:16:54,640 [pulsing drum beats] 249 00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:59,728 I signed up for first-year tantra and second-year yoga. 250 00:17:05,776 --> 00:17:10,030 [Andrea] The school, all the knowledge is not available to everybody. 251 00:17:11,156 --> 00:17:13,242 You have the normal classes 252 00:17:13,325 --> 00:17:19,039 and then some people are invited to take extracurricular classes. 253 00:17:19,665 --> 00:17:23,794 Where you're invited to attend maybe a weekend workshop. 254 00:17:26,588 --> 00:17:30,384 The teachers would choose the students 255 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:34,638 that were showing the most aspiration or the most potential. 256 00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:38,767 Only people deemed… 257 00:17:39,601 --> 00:17:42,855 I don't wanna say "worthy", but I'm going to say it. 258 00:17:42,938 --> 00:17:47,693 So only people deemed worthy are allowed in. 259 00:17:47,776 --> 00:17:49,278 [rhythmic whispering] 260 00:17:49,361 --> 00:17:52,656 [Andrea] So a little bit like a secret society. 261 00:17:57,995 --> 00:18:00,205 [producer] It must have also been quite compelling. 262 00:18:00,289 --> 00:18:04,376 Very much so. Yeah, yeah. Very, um… seductive. 263 00:18:07,171 --> 00:18:10,424 Somehow, being closer, being allowed to be closer 264 00:18:10,507 --> 00:18:14,887 and have closer access to the source was… was really compelling. 265 00:18:21,185 --> 00:18:25,063 [Ash] I don't recall when I first heard the word "guru". 266 00:18:27,524 --> 00:18:30,986 [Ash] But then the school refers to him as the spiritual guide. 267 00:18:31,069 --> 00:18:32,738 [indistinct chatter] 268 00:18:33,906 --> 00:18:35,657 [producer] And they gave you his name? 269 00:18:35,741 --> 00:18:37,951 Yeah, Gregorian Bivolaru. 270 00:18:39,161 --> 00:18:40,662 And that he was Romanian. 271 00:18:44,124 --> 00:18:46,919 [Ash] He was teaching yoga during the Communist regime. 272 00:18:50,547 --> 00:18:53,467 [Ash] He was teaching in secret because yoga wasn't allowed 273 00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:56,512 and these sorts of things were considered a threat to the state. 274 00:18:58,889 --> 00:19:02,059 And they said he, you know, went out on a limb to teach yoga. 275 00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:04,978 So he's a hero, you know, look what he did for the people. 276 00:19:06,939 --> 00:19:09,691 [producer] And was there a concept of where he was? 277 00:19:09,775 --> 00:19:12,986 I had no idea where he was. I knew that he was in hiding. 278 00:19:14,571 --> 00:19:19,952 [Andrea] We'd spoken openly about this in class that he'd been to prison before. 279 00:19:20,035 --> 00:19:23,497 And the greats like Mahatma Gandhi was, you know, persecuted. 280 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:28,168 And there were many people who fought for truth and for the light, 281 00:19:28,252 --> 00:19:29,837 who've been persecuted over time. 282 00:19:31,713 --> 00:19:35,342 [Ash] They kind of likened him to this metaphor of climbing a mountain. 283 00:19:35,425 --> 00:19:38,679 You need the guide there who knows the landscape, 284 00:19:38,762 --> 00:19:42,349 who knows what they're doing, to guide you there. 285 00:19:44,476 --> 00:19:45,644 [Ash] A few weeks earlier 286 00:19:45,727 --> 00:19:48,021 I was told there's a festival in Romania 287 00:19:48,105 --> 00:19:50,315 for the entire month of August. 288 00:19:50,399 --> 00:19:53,485 And they said you could write to the spiritual guide 289 00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:56,405 and ask to go into The Villa. 290 00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:01,952 It'd be a perfect opportunity for you 291 00:20:02,035 --> 00:20:04,788 to learn new techniques that were specific for women. 292 00:20:07,958 --> 00:20:09,918 And it'd be great for your transformation. 293 00:20:11,086 --> 00:20:12,671 So I wrote to the guru. 294 00:20:14,173 --> 00:20:17,217 "Dear Spiritual Guide Grieg, my name is Ashleigh 295 00:20:17,301 --> 00:20:20,679 and I'm currently studying the first year of the intensive yoga course. 296 00:20:22,097 --> 00:20:25,976 I've decided to visit Romania for the summer camp in Costinesti. 297 00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:29,855 I'm writing to kindly ask if I may be accepted at The Villa. 298 00:20:30,898 --> 00:20:34,359 The amazing opportunity would help me to awaken, explore 299 00:20:34,443 --> 00:20:35,903 and understand my femininity." 300 00:20:38,238 --> 00:20:39,489 I did that. 301 00:20:39,573 --> 00:20:41,074 And there's… 302 00:20:42,201 --> 00:20:45,746 the photos that you have to send of you in a bikini. 303 00:20:46,455 --> 00:20:49,208 And you have to be standing there holding this… 304 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,502 piece of paper that has your name, 305 00:20:51,585 --> 00:20:52,586 your star sign… 306 00:20:53,378 --> 00:20:55,923 where you're from, which school you attend. 307 00:20:56,006 --> 00:20:57,799 And that gets sent away 308 00:20:57,883 --> 00:20:59,384 to the spiritual guide 309 00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:01,011 in order to attend the camp. 310 00:21:02,137 --> 00:21:03,931 Now, I did think it was odd 'cause it's like, 311 00:21:04,014 --> 00:21:06,558 "Why can't you read my aura through my clothes?" [chuckles] 312 00:21:07,476 --> 00:21:11,021 I sent the photos and then the guru wrote back to me 313 00:21:11,104 --> 00:21:15,192 and it was like, "Yes! We welcome you to The Villa, come immediately." 314 00:21:17,236 --> 00:21:18,904 [announcer] …platform 6. 315 00:21:32,584 --> 00:21:33,584 [Ash] Costinesti. 316 00:21:35,879 --> 00:21:37,714 It's on the coast of Romania. 317 00:21:40,801 --> 00:21:45,138 The town in August gets swamped with yogis, 318 00:21:45,222 --> 00:21:47,641 but also with Romanians on holidays. 319 00:21:48,517 --> 00:21:50,435 [pumping electronic music playing] 320 00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:54,773 You've got this kinda of juxtaposition of all these unaware, unconscious people 321 00:21:54,857 --> 00:21:58,402 drinking, dancing, 322 00:21:59,653 --> 00:22:02,614 and then you have all these awakened yogis 323 00:22:03,532 --> 00:22:07,286 trying to open their hearts and raise their consciousness 324 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:08,829 and benefit humanity. 325 00:22:08,912 --> 00:22:10,747 [indistinct voice over speaker] 326 00:22:10,831 --> 00:22:13,750 [Ash] And I was gonna spend a month there and I was gonna do yoga. 327 00:22:14,626 --> 00:22:15,794 I was excited. 328 00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:19,423 I hadn't been told much. 329 00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:23,385 I knew the school originated in Romania, the guru was Romanian, 330 00:22:23,468 --> 00:22:25,512 and that most of the students were Romanian. 331 00:22:26,346 --> 00:22:29,600 And so that was where they hosted the main summer camp 332 00:22:29,683 --> 00:22:32,644 that everyone came to from all over the world. 333 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:40,235 In Denmark, we had quite a strong school there. 334 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:42,738 A really big school, it was quite established. 335 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:48,785 I was a massive high-achiever. 336 00:22:49,661 --> 00:22:52,581 I was a total nerd. I got bullied at school. 337 00:22:52,664 --> 00:22:56,960 Um, I would hide in the library a lot and I would obsessively read. 338 00:22:58,212 --> 00:22:59,671 I had been living in Sydney. 339 00:22:59,755 --> 00:23:02,674 Uh, each time I would meet a new partner, I would say, 340 00:23:02,758 --> 00:23:04,510 "Don't even bother trying to give me pleasure. 341 00:23:04,593 --> 00:23:06,512 It's not gonna happen. My body's broken. 342 00:23:06,595 --> 00:23:10,516 But I'm just happy to be here with you and I want you to feel good." 343 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:13,018 So I was a real people-pleaser in that way. 344 00:23:20,651 --> 00:23:24,530 But then at 26, I met a partner who introduced me to this whole other way 345 00:23:24,613 --> 00:23:26,573 of relating to sexuality and pleasure. 346 00:23:28,325 --> 00:23:31,119 And I started to feel sensations I didn't know were possible. 347 00:23:34,665 --> 00:23:36,250 He told me that it was connected 348 00:23:36,333 --> 00:23:40,629 to this, um, yoga and meditation tradition that he'd been practicing. 349 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:48,345 He was really wanting to explore more and go deeper with this. 350 00:23:49,805 --> 00:23:52,933 That's when he decided he wanted to go to Denmark 351 00:23:53,016 --> 00:23:55,310 to do the teacher training and he invited me to go with him 352 00:23:55,394 --> 00:23:59,147 and said I would be able to live there and do voluntary work for the school. 353 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,111 I was there in Denmark for nearly three years 354 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:06,947 when they said, "You've been invited 355 00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:10,534 on a special women's retreat which is happening within the camp. 356 00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:13,036 It's part of this, um, thing called The Villa. 357 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,205 You'll be part of a community of women. 358 00:24:15,956 --> 00:24:16,999 We'll see you there." 359 00:24:23,172 --> 00:24:24,172 [Ash] The Villa. 360 00:24:26,550 --> 00:24:28,802 I didn't… Yeah, I didn't know what to expect. 361 00:24:31,263 --> 00:24:32,556 To me, it looked tacky. 362 00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:35,434 Like it just wasn't my vibe. 363 00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:36,461 [dog barks] 364 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:37,853 It's got tall fences. 365 00:24:37,936 --> 00:24:40,189 You're not allowed in unless you have your pass. 366 00:24:44,067 --> 00:24:45,819 They took my passport. 367 00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:52,075 They get a Bible out, 368 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:53,827 and you have to say, 369 00:24:54,369 --> 00:24:57,748 "I swear on my health and my spiritual evolution 370 00:24:57,831 --> 00:25:01,627 that I will not reveal any of the secrets or anything that goes on here." 371 00:25:03,837 --> 00:25:05,672 There was pages and pages of rules. 372 00:25:05,756 --> 00:25:07,508 They said, "You need to go to the other room 373 00:25:07,591 --> 00:25:09,218 and read these rules three times. 374 00:25:09,301 --> 00:25:11,261 It might take you about an hour or so." 375 00:25:12,804 --> 00:25:15,140 And then, like, "Okay, now we do your photos." 376 00:25:15,766 --> 00:25:16,766 And… 377 00:25:18,352 --> 00:25:20,938 they said, "You need to strip off. Naked." 378 00:25:21,021 --> 00:25:22,439 Like, take all your clothes off. 379 00:25:22,523 --> 00:25:25,651 So they can check your aura to make sure that your energies are… 380 00:25:26,235 --> 00:25:27,653 balanced enough to participate. 381 00:25:29,404 --> 00:25:33,033 And so I took my clothes off and they take photos front-on 382 00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:34,326 and side profile. 383 00:25:36,411 --> 00:25:39,706 [producer] And did you have any kind of doubts in the back of your mind 384 00:25:39,790 --> 00:25:41,792 at that point, that it was strange? 385 00:25:42,626 --> 00:25:45,504 I certainly thought it was strange, but I don't really know… 386 00:25:46,672 --> 00:25:48,131 if I questioned it that much. 387 00:25:48,632 --> 00:25:50,509 I think I was like, "Yeah, this is just… 388 00:25:51,093 --> 00:25:52,386 This is just how it is." 389 00:25:52,469 --> 00:25:55,347 And also, I guess it was kind of empowering to think, 390 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:58,517 "Yeah, I'm gonna take my clothes off. I don't have a problem with my body. 391 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,600 Sure." 392 00:26:03,272 --> 00:26:07,150 And then I had to sit down naked in front of the camera with a microphone 393 00:26:07,234 --> 00:26:09,361 and answer these questions. 394 00:26:11,446 --> 00:26:15,409 And they also said, "Oh, if we… if we ask you about, like, 'him', 395 00:26:15,492 --> 00:26:17,828 we're talking about the master. 396 00:26:17,911 --> 00:26:20,163 We will refer to him as 'him' on the camera. 397 00:26:20,247 --> 00:26:22,082 We won't use his name. It's just 'him.'" 398 00:26:22,165 --> 00:26:27,129 They said, "And if you had the opportunity to meet him, how would you feel? 399 00:26:27,212 --> 00:26:28,422 What would you say?" 400 00:26:28,505 --> 00:26:30,174 Or something to that effect. 401 00:26:30,591 --> 00:26:34,678 And I'm sitting there cross-legged, completely naked, with a camera on me, 402 00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,763 holding a microphone, and I'm asked that. 403 00:26:38,724 --> 00:26:39,933 And I said, "Yeah, I… 404 00:26:40,767 --> 00:26:43,103 I would be extremely nervous at the thought of that. 405 00:26:43,187 --> 00:26:47,983 Very intimidated at the thought of that, but of course I would say yes." 406 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:56,992 Women would walk around, like, naked all the time and I loved that. 407 00:26:57,075 --> 00:27:00,370 Like, you felt really open and safe. 408 00:27:04,917 --> 00:27:08,879 You could go to each other for advice and hold each other and hug each other 409 00:27:08,962 --> 00:27:12,049 and cook each other food and it was a community. 410 00:27:16,678 --> 00:27:19,640 They'd often been in the school for a few years or at least two years 411 00:27:19,723 --> 00:27:22,726 before they went into The Villa. People were surprised, 412 00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:24,937 "Oh, how long have you been in the school?" 413 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:26,939 "A few months." "Oh, and you're in The Villa?" 414 00:27:27,022 --> 00:27:28,106 Like, it was a bit… 415 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:34,780 [Miranda] I met women from America, Germany, 416 00:27:34,863 --> 00:27:39,201 Portugal, Brazil, Greece, Thailand, 417 00:27:39,284 --> 00:27:41,161 they come from all over the world. 418 00:27:44,665 --> 00:27:49,586 I was a first-year student and I went weekly to the classes 419 00:27:49,670 --> 00:27:53,382 and, you know, I already saw a difference in myself 420 00:27:53,465 --> 00:27:57,219 and my life, compared with a year, certainly two years, previously. 421 00:27:57,302 --> 00:27:59,888 My relationships were improving, 422 00:27:59,972 --> 00:28:03,809 my sense of self had just completely changed 423 00:28:03,892 --> 00:28:07,896 and that felt really exciting. 424 00:28:09,773 --> 00:28:12,317 I decided that I should quit my job 425 00:28:12,401 --> 00:28:15,362 and dedicate myself to this full time. 426 00:28:16,864 --> 00:28:20,659 And so you have all of these women there that seem to be running the show. 427 00:28:20,742 --> 00:28:23,829 They're sort of, I think, sort of almost mother figures. 428 00:28:25,414 --> 00:28:27,708 They're running around. They're organizing things. 429 00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:32,713 And almost all of the women in The Villa would be like, 430 00:28:32,796 --> 00:28:35,424 first question, "What's your star sign?" 431 00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:38,051 Second or third question, "Are you doing Miss Shakti?" 432 00:28:46,810 --> 00:28:49,354 [Ash] Miss Universe-type style pageants. 433 00:28:54,985 --> 00:28:57,905 And they created these videos of them for the guru. 434 00:28:59,865 --> 00:29:02,242 And I have to say, I was pretty surprised. 435 00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:08,081 Women dancing, quite seductively. 436 00:29:09,625 --> 00:29:13,378 They're all kind of adorned with jewels and headdresses. 437 00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:17,007 With, like, the whole camp, you know, watching. 438 00:29:18,425 --> 00:29:20,844 Miss Shakti is another level, really. 439 00:29:21,553 --> 00:29:23,639 It's kind of the basis of the whole camp. 440 00:29:25,516 --> 00:29:26,683 They teach this idea 441 00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:30,729 that when you empty yourself of your person, 442 00:29:31,605 --> 00:29:36,818 you are channeling and you are asking that other character, or entity, 443 00:29:36,902 --> 00:29:40,155 or energy, or goddess, to come into you. 444 00:29:40,239 --> 00:29:43,492 And you become them for that period in time. 445 00:29:45,702 --> 00:29:48,121 Transfiguration, as they call it. 446 00:29:49,081 --> 00:29:52,668 I'm inviting in the spirit of… 447 00:29:53,335 --> 00:29:54,670 the goddess Kali. 448 00:29:58,340 --> 00:29:59,591 It feels real. 449 00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:01,844 And I don't know… 450 00:30:03,178 --> 00:30:07,516 how to explain why, in a rational way. 451 00:30:08,642 --> 00:30:10,519 It's a contest and there's a winner. [laughs] 452 00:30:10,602 --> 00:30:12,229 And a first, second and third place. 453 00:30:12,312 --> 00:30:14,815 But ultimately, you're not competing against the other people, 454 00:30:14,898 --> 00:30:16,608 it's about competing, you know, 455 00:30:16,692 --> 00:30:19,069 against yourself or becoming a better version of you. 456 00:30:21,947 --> 00:30:25,784 [Miranda] For a woman who's grown up having shame 457 00:30:25,868 --> 00:30:28,120 and judgement around your body, 458 00:30:28,203 --> 00:30:30,622 thinking that I was fat. 459 00:30:30,706 --> 00:30:37,045 In the school, there's this idea that your body is sacred 460 00:30:37,129 --> 00:30:40,007 and it's not some kind of object. 461 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,345 [Ash] Sitting and watching this, 462 00:30:45,429 --> 00:30:49,266 you see this really quiet, reserved, shy person 463 00:30:49,349 --> 00:30:51,602 and then through Miss Shakti, all of a sudden, 464 00:30:51,685 --> 00:30:55,439 they're in a micro-bikini on stage like a sex bomb. 465 00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:58,317 I was like, "A micro-bikini?" [laughs] 466 00:31:02,821 --> 00:31:06,200 [Ash] And so many women, I can't tell you how many there were. 467 00:31:07,451 --> 00:31:11,121 And I knew that some of the higher, like, the later stages, 468 00:31:11,205 --> 00:31:13,040 there's a few secret stages. 469 00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:33,727 [Miranda] I got kicked out after the first round. 470 00:31:35,437 --> 00:31:37,856 At the time, I was devastated. 471 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:41,527 And I thought, "Okay, was it because I'm too much in my ego? 472 00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:45,364 Was it because, you know, I had the wrong energy during the performance? 473 00:31:45,447 --> 00:31:46,782 I… You know, why? 474 00:31:46,865 --> 00:31:50,953 What was it about me meant that I was kicked out at this stage? 475 00:31:51,912 --> 00:31:55,707 What's my spiritual guide trying to show me here?" 476 00:31:59,378 --> 00:32:01,547 Like, some things I felt were a bit weird. 477 00:32:01,630 --> 00:32:02,881 There was a… 478 00:32:02,965 --> 00:32:05,759 I remember there was an exercise once that was on conscious touch 479 00:32:05,843 --> 00:32:07,469 and I think you just kind of closed your eyes 480 00:32:07,553 --> 00:32:09,680 and then everybody had their hands on you. 481 00:32:12,266 --> 00:32:15,894 But then there was this other one they did right at the end of the month. 482 00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:18,689 It was called an integration. 483 00:32:19,815 --> 00:32:24,236 And almost all of the women in The Villa were planning to participate. 484 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,781 You had to put your name down if you were going to participate in the integration. 485 00:32:27,865 --> 00:32:30,742 And if you weren't going to participate, you had to leave the building 486 00:32:30,826 --> 00:32:33,412 for the duration of the few hours that it was going on. 487 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,875 And then they started talking about, um, the technique 488 00:32:39,084 --> 00:32:40,919 which is using the urine. 489 00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:44,631 Which they called the Golden Elixir. 490 00:32:44,715 --> 00:32:48,760 Which is where you're exchanging… the Golden Elixir. 491 00:32:48,844 --> 00:32:50,429 [laughing] You're exchanging the urine. 492 00:32:50,512 --> 00:32:54,683 After at least 45 minutes of lovemaking or "charging", 493 00:32:54,766 --> 00:32:56,143 so that it's then "charged." 494 00:32:56,226 --> 00:32:59,605 And that's how you supposedly integrate the qualities of the partner. 495 00:32:59,688 --> 00:33:02,191 It's like the ultimate kind of connection and closeness 496 00:33:02,274 --> 00:33:05,819 because you are then drinking and embodying 497 00:33:05,903 --> 00:33:07,738 these qualities of your partner. 498 00:33:08,614 --> 00:33:09,615 I… 499 00:33:10,616 --> 00:33:13,869 I don't… I didn't want to. I wasn't… I didn't want to. 500 00:33:17,956 --> 00:33:18,956 So, I… 501 00:33:19,791 --> 00:33:22,377 I sat in the room for it. And we went into the room, 502 00:33:22,461 --> 00:33:25,297 they had all, like, the… It was all kind of ritualized. 503 00:33:28,467 --> 00:33:30,219 And then it was just an orgy. 504 00:33:30,302 --> 00:33:32,387 It was just a massive orgy of all these women. 505 00:33:33,013 --> 00:33:34,013 No men. 506 00:33:38,393 --> 00:33:43,440 And I just sat there, watching, in a kind of a meditative posture. 507 00:33:44,483 --> 00:33:46,735 And just kind of… just observed. 508 00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:51,490 And then they start passing a bowl around 509 00:33:51,573 --> 00:33:54,117 and they're all collectively peeing into the bowl. 510 00:33:57,579 --> 00:33:59,748 And then they're bottling it afterwards 511 00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:03,544 into these little vials so that they can put a couple of drops in their water 512 00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:06,922 so that they can keep embodying the qualities. 513 00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:10,717 I seemed like I was the only one that didn't want to. Like it was… 514 00:34:10,801 --> 00:34:14,596 But I rationalized it as, "Well, I'm not evolved enough. 515 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,349 Maybe one day, I'll be more evolved. I'm just not there." 516 00:34:19,101 --> 00:34:21,311 [Miranda] When I first did it myself, 517 00:34:22,271 --> 00:34:23,730 it grossed me out. 518 00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:30,862 And I had a moment of being like, "What… What am I doing?" 519 00:34:30,946 --> 00:34:34,032 You know, it felt weird, but there was also this sense of… 520 00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:40,371 like, love and acceptance at a very deep level. 521 00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:43,166 It was certainly intriguing. 522 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:46,712 But I think I was also just nursing or holding onto all the shame 523 00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:49,505 that I couldn't bring myself to be involved. 524 00:34:50,966 --> 00:34:51,966 And… 525 00:34:52,009 --> 00:34:54,469 [producer] So you would've liked to have been able to? 526 00:34:55,219 --> 00:34:57,472 I would've liked to have wanted to. 527 00:34:58,098 --> 00:34:59,725 I wanted to want to. 528 00:35:11,737 --> 00:35:15,991 Arriving back in the UK, I was just confused and disorientated. 529 00:35:19,328 --> 00:35:21,246 "I need to get past my blockages. 530 00:35:22,497 --> 00:35:26,502 All these fears and anxieties coming up just represent the ego. 531 00:35:27,503 --> 00:35:30,130 And, of course the ego's gonna try and stop you and block you 532 00:35:30,214 --> 00:35:32,466 at every twist and turn along your spiritual path. 533 00:35:32,549 --> 00:35:35,052 And your job is to keep destroying the ego. 534 00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:36,470 Keep quelling the ego. 535 00:35:36,553 --> 00:35:41,558 Keep surrendering and moving past the ego." 536 00:35:46,396 --> 00:35:50,067 Ziggy's influence was pretty significant. 537 00:35:51,985 --> 00:35:53,820 I talked to him at length. 538 00:35:56,865 --> 00:35:58,951 [Ziggy] Everything up until that point for herself 539 00:35:59,034 --> 00:36:02,120 had seemed just a little bit off-color 540 00:36:02,204 --> 00:36:05,040 for her to want to engage with it any further. 541 00:36:07,084 --> 00:36:10,420 She certainly struggled with a lot of the practices. 542 00:36:13,423 --> 00:36:17,094 Her hearing how I've integrated a lot of the teachings 543 00:36:17,177 --> 00:36:19,137 certainly made her feel more comfortable, 544 00:36:19,221 --> 00:36:24,560 or at least reassured that you can live a somewhat normal life 545 00:36:24,643 --> 00:36:26,311 surrounding the school. 546 00:36:29,022 --> 00:36:33,819 In Denmark, I was getting brought closer into the core of the community. 547 00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:40,534 And I had the opportunity to be initiated into the art of tantric lovemaking. 548 00:36:42,995 --> 00:36:47,541 Paula had been at the school maybe three years before I'd gotten there. 549 00:36:49,459 --> 00:36:53,463 I knew there'd be a series of postures within lovemaking. 550 00:36:53,547 --> 00:36:58,552 She guided me through that in the most loving and caring way. 551 00:36:58,635 --> 00:37:03,307 And it really did feel like a… a de-arming of the chest and of the heart. 552 00:37:03,390 --> 00:37:06,393 I can feel and relate to myself again. 553 00:37:06,476 --> 00:37:09,563 You know, this has been absent for so long. 554 00:37:13,775 --> 00:37:16,737 Paula had been in several relationships by this stage. 555 00:37:17,362 --> 00:37:20,324 She did receive those initiation techniques so… 556 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,619 I was just having it handed on to me. 557 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:26,079 Mmm. 558 00:37:30,209 --> 00:37:31,960 [Andrea] The tantric tradition 559 00:37:32,044 --> 00:37:37,382 has always been very much that it's by initiation only. 560 00:37:39,468 --> 00:37:43,096 Because it's not enough to just tell somebody who's struggling, 561 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,682 "Yeah, just go and do some more practice." 562 00:37:46,266 --> 00:37:49,186 The… We need to do deeper work than that 563 00:37:49,269 --> 00:37:52,481 and we need to look at ourselves much deeper than that. 564 00:37:55,025 --> 00:37:57,778 Some things, I can learn from lecturers. 565 00:37:57,861 --> 00:38:00,739 Some things I can learn from yoga, meditation, whatever. 566 00:38:02,491 --> 00:38:07,162 But there are some experiences that are only possible 567 00:38:07,246 --> 00:38:10,290 through the direct contact with the teacher. 568 00:38:12,709 --> 00:38:18,215 There are certain things that he has to take me through himself. 569 00:38:20,259 --> 00:38:23,804 This was not possible through anybody else. 570 00:38:23,887 --> 00:38:28,559 That it was really an initiation from, like, the master to the student. 571 00:38:31,687 --> 00:38:34,273 - [children playing] - [birds chirping] 572 00:38:36,233 --> 00:38:39,903 [Ash] The receptionist at Tara Yoga, she messaged me saying, 573 00:38:39,987 --> 00:38:43,031 "Hey, sweetie, are you coming into the center today? 574 00:38:43,115 --> 00:38:45,492 I wanna talk to you about something." 575 00:38:45,576 --> 00:38:48,412 And she was looking for a private room and she couldn't find one 576 00:38:48,495 --> 00:38:50,497 because a lot of the studios were being used. 577 00:38:50,581 --> 00:38:53,667 So she ended up taking me into, like, this cupboard. 578 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:56,837 It was like a storage… It was like a storage room. 579 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,589 And she said, "Oh, do you remember 580 00:38:58,672 --> 00:39:03,218 when we, um, were in The Villa and we had to put down dates 581 00:39:03,302 --> 00:39:06,847 that we might be available to visit the guru?" 582 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:10,767 And she said, "Well, he's… He's invited you. 583 00:39:10,851 --> 00:39:12,686 You've been invited to go and meet him. 584 00:39:12,769 --> 00:39:15,105 It's integrated for you on these dates. 585 00:39:16,481 --> 00:39:20,319 But it's all secret. You know, you can't tell anyone else. 586 00:39:20,402 --> 00:39:23,071 You need to book your transport and we'll pay you back for it. 587 00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:27,409 And the location where you need to go, where you need to book to, is Paris." 588 00:39:39,505 --> 00:39:41,256 [man in French] I am head of the Central Office 589 00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:43,383 for Combating Violence against People, 590 00:39:44,676 --> 00:39:47,346 fighting against the most serious attacks. 591 00:39:47,429 --> 00:39:51,183 We operate at a national level and handle investigations across France 592 00:39:51,266 --> 00:39:53,810 and we also collaborate with foreign forces. 593 00:39:54,937 --> 00:39:56,855 [both speaking French] 594 00:39:56,939 --> 00:40:01,109 [Dannerolle] Caimades is a special unit for investigating cult crimes. 595 00:40:02,277 --> 00:40:04,863 It's important to specify that Caimades 596 00:40:04,947 --> 00:40:08,909 does not police beliefs or thoughts. 597 00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:11,495 That's not our role. People are free to believe what they want. 598 00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:16,708 However, if an offense is taking place in a cult, 599 00:40:16,792 --> 00:40:18,961 then our role is to intervene. 600 00:40:20,796 --> 00:40:23,757 This case was really massive for us 601 00:40:24,466 --> 00:40:26,885 in terms of scale of investigation. 602 00:40:28,095 --> 00:40:30,264 It is an international movement. 603 00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:34,726 The charges against the members of this movement 604 00:40:34,810 --> 00:40:35,811 were as follows: 605 00:40:37,312 --> 00:40:38,856 human trafficking, 606 00:40:40,607 --> 00:40:41,692 rape, 607 00:40:43,068 --> 00:40:46,530 exploitation of vulnerable individuals in states of psychological influence. 608 00:40:49,575 --> 00:40:52,911 [Ash] What's that saying? "When the… 609 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:56,331 When the student is ready, the teacher appears." 610 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,458 So, clearly I was ready. 611 00:40:58,542 --> 00:41:03,672 The student was ready, I was ripe. I was ready and the teacher appeared. 51560

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