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Operation Lighthouse.
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Re. the unsolved murder
of Gail Vella,
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on September 10th, 2019.
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The Gail Vella murder
weapon was never recovered.
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-Moving.
However,
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the cartridge and bullet
were tailored ammunition.
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The White Rock unit
is equipped
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with the exact machinery
required for this process.
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By the time
of our inquiry in 2015,
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Thurwell had taken
early retirement.
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Believed to be living
in Spain.
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I wonder if Gail
discovered the link
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between Thurwell and
the Lawrence Christopher case.
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I've been looking into other
members of Thurwell's team.
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Detective Constable
Ian Buckells.
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Inspector Philip Osborne.
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I don't know where you're
getting your figures from...
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But the figures came from your
own office, Chief Constable.
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The Chief's thrown
me under a bus.
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I've been fighting his plan
to scale back AC-12.
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It's down to you now, Ted,
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in whatever time
you've got left.
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You want to talk about rats,
ask your boss.
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Superintendent Hastings?
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Lee told me there was a rat
in our crew.
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That rat turned out to be
an undercover copper,
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John Corbett.
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It's easy as that, Jo.
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It's best if you request
a transfer.
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Is this personal?
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I am Detective
Chief Superintendent
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Patricia Carmichael.
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Carmichael's taking command.
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It's on the Chief
Constable's orders
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and we've just learned he
could have been a beneficiary
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of Gail Vella's murder.
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One more chance, Ryan.
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-One more chance.
-Drop it.
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-No!
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Seven-six.
Hold on. Clear to approach.
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Charlie seven-two
to Control.
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Vehicle at the scene.
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Body on the floor
next to the vehicle.
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Oh, shit.
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Kate's car's missing.
Request urgent ops.
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Alpha Charlie five
to Control, active message.
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Request urgent...
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Where is Kate?
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Seven, six.
All clear, sir.
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All arms. Clear to approach.
Search this area.
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Check that body
for signs of life.
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Repeat, service vehicle,
DI Fleming.
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Preserve the scene.
Let them work.
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Alfa Charlie five to control.
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Active message,
state six of Menton Road.
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One police. Major trauma.
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Request urgent
paramedic attendance
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and full forensic deployment.
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Ryan Pilkington, two gunshot
wounds to the chest.
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-No pulse. He's well gone.
-Right.
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If you hadn't withdrawn
our bloody surveillance.
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Given her OCG links,
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I think we have to assume that
Davidson, or her associates
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are the likely shooter.
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DI Fleming was authorised
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to carry a concealed firearm
for her own protection.
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Five to switching.
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DI Fleming's vehicle.
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Alpha Charlie five to control
on three.
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Control service vehicle
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registered to DI Fleming
located Crowlyn Road.
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Units report. Vehicle service
mobile radio's abandoned.
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Subject is not present
at the scene.
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Five two received.
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You know her best.
Where would she go?
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Sorry, ma'am.
I have no idea.
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Issue an order
for the arrest
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of Jo Davidson
and Kate Fleming.
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Consider them armed
and dangerous.
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Charlie seven-six...
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-This is the back entrance
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to Steve's.
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No one's around
this time of the night.
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-You sure you can trust him?
-Steve? Totally.
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Why wasn't there surveillance
on Ryan and me?
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It got suspended.
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On purpose?
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No. On the orders of
the Chief and DCS Carmichael.
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That's nothing to do with me.
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Look, I haven't got the
foggiest idea what's going on.
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All I know is
somebody's behind all of this.
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Kate, you've got to
believe me.
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I had nothing to do with it.
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No?
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You lured me back
to be murdered.
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-Kate?
-Didn't ya?
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Now look where we are.
Ryan's dead,
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and I'm in the frame for it.
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I'm sorry, Kate. That's
the last thing I'd want.
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You've got to believe me!
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-Let me prove it to you.
-How?
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Give me your gun.
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You believe me now?
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Great. Nice one, Steve.
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I always worried
you were pretending.
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-Pretending?
-You know what I mean.
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To lure me into trusting you.
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We gotta get a move on.
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Steve's been made a bloody DI.
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About time
he got a grown-up car.
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Yes, I can use a kick.
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Uh, sorry, sir. Nothing yet.
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DCS Carmichael has ordered me
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to update the Operation
Lighthouse evidence.
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Sorry.
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You still won't answer.
Were you lying to me, Kate?
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This is about you, Jo. Not me.
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You said you wanted
me on your team
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because I'm ex
anti-corruption.
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-Were you lying about that?
-No.
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I thought it might
help me resist
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what they were forcing
me to do.
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You never stopped
manipulating the inquiry
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into the Gail Vella murder.
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They control me!
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Ever since
I joined the force,
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the more I did their bidding,
the more they had over me.
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-I'm not bent.
-Well then, prove it.
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You'll get witness protection
if you tell us everything...
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Witness protection?
Even to...
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No matter who it is,
however powerful,
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when they turn,
they get killed.
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What chance do I stand?
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Just tell me everything
you know, Jo.
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Starting with your family.
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You nearly said his name.
Tommy Hunter.
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AC-12 found DNA
in Farida's house
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showing you're related.
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So you already know
everything?
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Hardly. I need the truth.
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My mum was Tommy's sister.
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My dad was...
been a police officer.
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Right. Well the only way
you're getting out of this
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is to prove you're not bent.
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It's Gail Vella's house.
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You want proof I'm not bent,
you're about to get it.
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End of the road, turn left.
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DCS Carmichael
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Carmichael's on the move.
Not sure what's happening.
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Well, let's not wait
for the crumbs, son.
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Pull up here.
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This place used to be
a front for the OCG.
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And right across
the street is?
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Terry Boyle's flat.
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Shit!
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Time to estimate,
six, control. Active message.
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Visual with suspect vehicle.
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T.A. Market Street.
Travelling at speed.
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Oh, shit!
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Brace!
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Go!
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Control, suspect vehicle
failed to comply.
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Initiating pursuit.
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Six, five. Maintain obs and...
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Shit!
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Police!
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Get out of the vehicle
with your arms raised
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and your hands open,
with palms facing towards me.
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Police! Get back.
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Armed police. Stay indoors.
Get back!
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How did they manage
to intercept us?
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Something's not right.
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Get out the vehicle
with your arms raised
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and your hands open,
with palms towards me.
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Final warning.
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This isn't your fault.
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I'll say I forced you
to drive me.
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Get out of the vehicle
with your arms raised,
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your hands open,
with palms towards me.
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Kate, we don't
have a choice.
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Control, two occupants
still in vehicle.
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Controls eight,
four, received.
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We have a visual link
from helicopter.
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Maintain sitrep.
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...persons exiting
the vehicle now.
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Control to eight
four, received.
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We're police officers.
DI Fleming.
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DSU Davidson.
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Hands above your head.
Open them, palms towards me.
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I'm a police officer,
going about my lawful duty.
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Lower your weapons.
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Hands above your head.
Open them.
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DCS Carmichael,
you are ordered to surrender.
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Jesus Christ!
Steve's in on it.
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I'm taking out a pistol.
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I'll put it on the grounds.
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DI Fleming,
surrender your firearm.
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Jo, we're being framed.
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This is your final warning.
Lay down your firearm.
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Slowly.
Hands where we can see them.
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Alpha Charlie
eight four control...
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We surrender.
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Kate!
-No.
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Hand on weapon.
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Ma'am, if I may?
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This is Superintendent,
Hastings.
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I can assure you
you'll be treated fairly,
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with the full protection
of the law.
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Steve told me some bad stuff
about the gaffer.
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This is my fault, sir.
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DI Steve Arnott.
I'm unarmed.
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You bastard, Steve.
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Stay there, Kate.
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Take the gun out slowly,
lay it on the ground.
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You gave me up. You told them.
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Kate, I give you my word,
I didn't.
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That's bullshit.
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How would they know
what car I'm driving?
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Kate, listen to me.
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I don't know how they knew.
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If it came from me,
I'd be straight with you.
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That's how it is between us,
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and I'm telling you,
I didn't give you up.
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Neither did the gaffer.
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DI Arnott,
now with two occupants...
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Come on, mate.
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I don't know what the hell
is going on either.
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Why the Chief's ordered
Carmichael to take over.
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But I promise you,
I'll get you to safety.
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Both of you.
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She's cooperating.
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Lay it on the ground.
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She's put the gun down.
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Come with me.
I'll walk you in.
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Get behind me.
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You too, ma'am.
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Both suspects
now walking towards us
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with arms raised...
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Check out the old
OCG print shop.
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Also, Ryan Pilkington
confessed
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to the murder of Maneet Bindra
and John Corbett.
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Don't you worry, kid. I'll see
you're well looked after
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or, by Christ,
they'll have me to answer to.
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Arrest them both.
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Put them in forensic suits,
transfer them to dry cells.
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Lock the ridge
of the transport vehicle.
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You should have shared Kate's
whereabouts with me.
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I didn't want to put you in
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a difficult position
with Carmichael.
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Kate told me Ryan Pilkington
confessed to Maneet's murder.
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Pilkington!
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He also confessed
to the murder of John Corbett.
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Ma'am.
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Ma'am, the interviews
with Davidson and Kate...
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DI Arnott and I will be
involved, of course.
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We know the inquiry
like the back of our hands.
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Hmm. DI Arnott,
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00:16:43,713 --> 00:16:45,508
I've just learned
the vehicle was yours,
259
00:16:45,611 --> 00:16:49,615
and keys to your home were
found on DI Fleming's person.
260
00:16:50,651 --> 00:16:52,549
We've got keys to each other's
homes and vehicles
261
00:16:52,653 --> 00:16:54,655
in the event
of extreme circumstances.
262
00:16:54,758 --> 00:16:57,106
Oh, okay. Yes. I see.
263
00:16:57,209 --> 00:16:59,763
What would constitute
extreme circumstances?
264
00:16:59,867 --> 00:17:02,180
An unexplained disruption
of the chain of command.
265
00:17:06,218 --> 00:17:08,462
Superintendent Hastings
has been informed
266
00:17:08,565 --> 00:17:10,878
of his impending
retirement.
267
00:17:10,981 --> 00:17:14,226
Ma'am, I must protest. That
information was confidential.
268
00:17:14,330 --> 00:17:15,676
And so, to ensure
a smooth transition,
269
00:17:15,779 --> 00:17:18,023
I've assumed command.
So, from now on, DI Arnott,
270
00:17:18,127 --> 00:17:19,300
you'll be taking
orders from me,
271
00:17:19,404 --> 00:17:20,853
or face
disciplinary action.
272
00:17:24,340 --> 00:17:26,756
Is there anything else
you're not sharing with me?
273
00:17:31,105 --> 00:17:33,383
I'm waiting.
274
00:17:33,487 --> 00:17:36,766
Kate said we should check
out the old OCG print shop,
275
00:17:36,869 --> 00:17:38,526
from where John Corbett
worked.
276
00:17:39,009 --> 00:17:40,218
Very good.
277
00:17:41,495 --> 00:17:43,531
I'll report back after
Davidson's respite
278
00:17:43,635 --> 00:17:45,878
to assist me
in interviewing her.
279
00:17:45,982 --> 00:17:47,501
Dismissed. Thank you.
280
00:17:47,777 --> 00:17:48,847
Ma'am.
281
00:17:56,855 --> 00:17:58,098
I'll lead the interview
282
00:17:58,201 --> 00:18:01,653
and you can assist within
parameters set by me.
283
00:18:02,792 --> 00:18:04,276
Do you think
you can manage that?
284
00:18:07,831 --> 00:18:08,867
Very good.
285
00:18:10,144 --> 00:18:12,353
I'll see you
in the morning.
286
00:18:12,457 --> 00:18:15,115
How did you know of Davidson
and Kate's whereabouts?
287
00:18:16,426 --> 00:18:18,566
Oh, we put trackers
in all AC-12 vehicles.
288
00:18:19,705 --> 00:18:20,810
What?
289
00:18:20,913 --> 00:18:22,294
Hmm.
Chief Constable's orders.
290
00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:24,089
Thank goodness we did.
291
00:18:24,193 --> 00:18:27,127
My officers were going
about their lawful duty.
292
00:18:27,230 --> 00:18:28,921
Putting trackers
on their vehicles
293
00:18:29,025 --> 00:18:31,752
was a flagrant
breach of trust.
294
00:18:33,236 --> 00:18:35,065
No, you're right, Ted.
295
00:18:36,757 --> 00:18:38,724
The Chief and I
don't trust you.
296
00:18:58,882 --> 00:19:00,953
AC-12 interview
of acting detective
297
00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:02,438
Superintendent Joanne Davidson,
298
00:19:02,541 --> 00:19:03,956
in the presence
of a solicitor,
299
00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:05,337
police federation
representative
300
00:19:05,441 --> 00:19:07,443
by Chief Superintendent
Carmichael,
301
00:19:07,546 --> 00:19:10,584
Superintendent Hastings,
Detective Inspector Arnott.
302
00:19:10,687 --> 00:19:12,241
You remain under caution.
303
00:19:12,344 --> 00:19:13,483
Following your arrest,
304
00:19:13,587 --> 00:19:15,520
a search of your
registered address,
305
00:19:15,623 --> 00:19:18,039
apartment G-9,
Croxford Street
306
00:19:18,143 --> 00:19:19,731
was carried out
under section 18-1,
307
00:19:19,834 --> 00:19:22,734
of the Police and Criminal
Evidence Act, 1984.
308
00:19:23,493 --> 00:19:25,254
Image 17 on screen.
309
00:19:25,357 --> 00:19:27,497
Image 17,
it's a crime scene photograph
310
00:19:27,601 --> 00:19:29,189
captured during
the search of apartment
311
00:19:29,292 --> 00:19:30,880
G-9, Croxford Street.
312
00:19:30,983 --> 00:19:32,640
Who is seen in image 17?
313
00:19:34,746 --> 00:19:36,644
No comment.
314
00:19:36,748 --> 00:19:39,199
Document 22
in your folders and on screen.
315
00:19:39,302 --> 00:19:42,374
Document 22 is a scan of
Samantha Davidson's passport.
316
00:19:42,995 --> 00:19:44,721
Person seen an image 17,
317
00:19:44,825 --> 00:19:46,516
is Samantha Davidson,
correct?
318
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,417
No comment.
319
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,213
Document six in your folders
and on screen.
320
00:19:53,316 --> 00:19:55,767
Document six is acting
DSU Davidson's
321
00:19:55,870 --> 00:19:57,251
police personnel record.
322
00:19:57,355 --> 00:19:59,736
Next of kin is given
as Samantha Davidson.
323
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,083
What is your relationship
to Samantha Davidson?
324
00:20:02,187 --> 00:20:03,326
No comment.
325
00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:06,571
Oh, God, give me strength.
It's gonna be a long day.
326
00:20:06,674 --> 00:20:08,676
We carried out checks
on Samantha Davidson.
327
00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:12,197
Passport shown in Document 22
is the last one on record.
328
00:20:12,301 --> 00:20:13,612
An interim death certificate
was issued
329
00:20:13,716 --> 00:20:16,960
for Samantha Davidson
on the 5th of January, 1996,
330
00:20:17,064 --> 00:20:19,273
by the Glasgow City coroner.
331
00:20:19,377 --> 00:20:21,793
Subsequent inquest
into Samantha Davidson's death
332
00:20:21,896 --> 00:20:23,553
recorded a finding of suicide.
333
00:20:26,073 --> 00:20:27,419
You all right, Jo?
334
00:20:29,249 --> 00:20:31,147
The purpose of our questioning
is not to trigger
335
00:20:31,251 --> 00:20:34,115
painful memories,
but rather to address...
336
00:20:34,219 --> 00:20:36,773
an important aspect
of our inquiry.
337
00:20:38,637 --> 00:20:40,708
Document 33 in your folders.
338
00:20:40,812 --> 00:20:43,332
Document 33 is
a forensic laboratory report
339
00:20:43,435 --> 00:20:46,335
submitted on the 19th
of November, 2020,
340
00:20:46,438 --> 00:20:48,820
relating to DNA deposits
detected during a search
341
00:20:48,923 --> 00:20:51,892
of 29 Stalton Drive
conducted up to and including
342
00:20:51,995 --> 00:20:54,343
the 16th of November, 2020.
343
00:20:54,446 --> 00:20:56,137
Comparison of said DNA deposits
344
00:20:56,241 --> 00:20:59,279
found 100% match with DNA
held on the national database
345
00:20:59,382 --> 00:21:01,384
belonging to Joanne Davidson.
346
00:21:01,488 --> 00:21:03,386
Further comparison
with criminal databases
347
00:21:03,490 --> 00:21:06,113
found a strong partial match
to John Thomas Hunter.
348
00:21:07,321 --> 00:21:09,737
Are you related by
blood to John Thomas Hunter?
349
00:21:10,980 --> 00:21:12,361
-No comment.
-Okay.
350
00:21:12,464 --> 00:21:14,535
Just gave you an opportunity
to declare whether or not
351
00:21:14,639 --> 00:21:17,227
you are familiar with
what we're about to disclose.
352
00:21:17,331 --> 00:21:18,436
If not, you may find
353
00:21:18,539 --> 00:21:21,162
the following information
distressing. DI Arnott.
354
00:21:21,266 --> 00:21:23,682
Document 33A.
355
00:21:23,786 --> 00:21:27,134
Further analysis of the DNA
found at 29 Stalton Drive
356
00:21:27,237 --> 00:21:29,723
detected run of homozygosity.
357
00:21:29,826 --> 00:21:32,035
This is an indicator
of a close blood relationship
358
00:21:32,139 --> 00:21:34,348
between the subject's
mother and father.
359
00:21:34,452 --> 00:21:36,385
With a percentage match
to Tommy Hunter,
360
00:21:36,488 --> 00:21:39,042
it has been concluded
that Hunter was your uncle
361
00:21:39,146 --> 00:21:40,561
and also your father.
362
00:21:45,255 --> 00:21:46,326
No.
363
00:21:50,053 --> 00:21:52,159
No. He...
364
00:21:52,262 --> 00:21:54,472
He was my uncle. That's...
365
00:21:55,058 --> 00:21:57,302
But that's not true.
366
00:22:03,343 --> 00:22:04,827
So what is the truth?
367
00:22:05,828 --> 00:22:08,244
You can see
my colleague's distress.
368
00:22:08,348 --> 00:22:09,728
Perhaps we could
have a short break.
369
00:22:09,832 --> 00:22:11,454
It's a simple
enough question for Acting
370
00:22:11,558 --> 00:22:13,698
Detective Superintendent
Davidson to answer.
371
00:22:15,907 --> 00:22:17,253
No comment.
372
00:22:21,050 --> 00:22:22,879
Okay. I think
we should pause this interview
373
00:22:22,983 --> 00:22:25,468
and return you to custody
until such time,
374
00:22:25,572 --> 00:22:27,090
if any, you're willing
to cooperate...
375
00:22:27,194 --> 00:22:28,575
Ma'am, wait.
376
00:22:29,403 --> 00:22:30,404
Please.
377
00:22:32,061 --> 00:22:33,407
Jo, if you're bent,
378
00:22:33,511 --> 00:22:36,168
fine if you wanna
run the clock down.
379
00:22:36,272 --> 00:22:37,377
We'll charge you,
and with the evidence
380
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,379
we've got, you'll go away
for a long time.
381
00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:42,140
But if you're not bent,
382
00:22:42,243 --> 00:22:44,038
this is your chance
to prove it.
383
00:22:45,833 --> 00:22:48,457
These things we've learned
about your family history,
384
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,873
no one can be blamed
for what they're born into.
385
00:22:50,976 --> 00:22:52,426
Or the path
that it puts them on.
386
00:22:53,910 --> 00:22:55,705
Now's the time
to give your side.
387
00:23:04,956 --> 00:23:06,233
No comment.
388
00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:11,411
You were still only a teenager
when you lost your mum.
389
00:23:11,514 --> 00:23:12,860
It must have been
very upsetting.
390
00:23:15,587 --> 00:23:17,071
No comment.
391
00:23:17,175 --> 00:23:19,246
If you think you're going to
wear us down,
392
00:23:19,349 --> 00:23:21,524
Acting Detective
Superintendent Davidson,
393
00:23:21,628 --> 00:23:24,596
you have got
another thing coming.
394
00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:25,977
DI Arnott.
395
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,358
The search of apartment
G-9 Croxford Street
396
00:23:28,462 --> 00:23:30,291
detected an article
seized in evidence
397
00:23:30,395 --> 00:23:33,225
appearing onscreen
in Image 11.
398
00:23:33,329 --> 00:23:35,883
Image 11 shows
item reference PW-5,
399
00:23:35,987 --> 00:23:37,333
a laptop computer.
400
00:23:38,127 --> 00:23:39,508
Whose device is this?
401
00:23:41,682 --> 00:23:42,890
No comment.
402
00:23:42,994 --> 00:23:45,514
Forensic examination
of PW-5 detected fingerprints
403
00:23:45,617 --> 00:23:48,137
and DNA deposits
relating to one person only.
404
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,449
Said fingerprints and DNA
405
00:23:49,552 --> 00:23:51,174
are a match
for Joanne Davidson.
406
00:23:52,969 --> 00:23:55,351
For what purpose
did you employ this device?
407
00:23:56,490 --> 00:23:58,078
No comment.
408
00:23:58,181 --> 00:24:00,080
Document 56 in your folders.
409
00:24:00,770 --> 00:24:02,600
AC-12's Cybercrime Department
410
00:24:02,703 --> 00:24:05,326
carried out an examination
of PW-5's hard drive.
411
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:08,260
Their findings are fully
summarised in Document 56.
412
00:24:08,364 --> 00:24:09,952
There are numerous
text conversations
413
00:24:10,055 --> 00:24:12,817
between the user of PW-5
and an unknown user.
414
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,716
Who are the participants
in these text conversations?
415
00:24:16,545 --> 00:24:17,684
No comment.
416
00:24:17,787 --> 00:24:20,134
Our Cybercrime Department
detected an IP address
417
00:24:20,238 --> 00:24:24,138
for the PW-5 user
matching 9 Croxford Street.
418
00:24:24,242 --> 00:24:27,176
The IP address for the unknown
user is located in Spain.
419
00:24:28,867 --> 00:24:30,144
No comment.
420
00:24:30,248 --> 00:24:32,457
What was the nature
of these text conversations?
421
00:24:33,009 --> 00:24:34,114
No comment.
422
00:24:34,217 --> 00:24:36,116
Jesus, Mary and Joseph
and the wee donkey,
423
00:24:36,219 --> 00:24:37,462
can we just move
this thing along
424
00:24:37,566 --> 00:24:39,740
before it drives us all
round the bloody bend?
425
00:24:39,844 --> 00:24:40,845
DI Arnott.
426
00:24:40,948 --> 00:24:42,087
Please refer to the screen,
427
00:24:42,191 --> 00:24:43,468
which shows
a text conversation
428
00:24:43,572 --> 00:24:46,989
which took place on
the 22nd of November, 21:42,
429
00:24:47,092 --> 00:24:50,337
between the user of PW-5
and an unknown user.
430
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,064
Can you tell us what is meant
by the instruction...
431
00:24:53,582 --> 00:24:55,066
"Get rid of her"?
432
00:24:56,412 --> 00:24:57,517
No comment.
433
00:24:57,620 --> 00:25:00,209
You agreed to lure
DI Fleming to her death.
434
00:25:00,312 --> 00:25:02,280
That's about the top
and bottom of it, isn't it?
435
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,110
No comment.
436
00:25:05,214 --> 00:25:06,664
Look,
you could say no comment
437
00:25:06,767 --> 00:25:09,183
till you're blue in the face,
but we know what's what.
438
00:25:09,287 --> 00:25:11,116
DI Fleming made a call
to DI Arnott
439
00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:12,670
just minutes before
an illicit rendezvous
440
00:25:12,773 --> 00:25:15,604
took place between you
and PC Ryan Pilkington.
441
00:25:17,675 --> 00:25:18,814
No comment.
442
00:25:18,917 --> 00:25:20,401
You lured her
to that rendezvous,
443
00:25:20,505 --> 00:25:22,058
and there is the evidence
up there
444
00:25:22,162 --> 00:25:24,647
on the screen
in black and white.
445
00:25:24,751 --> 00:25:27,270
Conspiracy to murder
which, as you know,
446
00:25:27,374 --> 00:25:29,169
Acting Detective
Superintendent Davidson,
447
00:25:29,272 --> 00:25:32,586
brings with it
a life sentence.
448
00:25:32,690 --> 00:25:35,209
And that's before we get
to the rest of the evidence,
449
00:25:35,313 --> 00:25:38,074
which I would describe
as a mountain,
450
00:25:38,627 --> 00:25:41,077
a mountain of evidence.
451
00:25:41,181 --> 00:25:43,321
We haven't even
scratched the surface.
452
00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:52,468
I was asking about your mum.
453
00:25:56,576 --> 00:25:58,060
Yes.
454
00:25:58,163 --> 00:25:59,579
She took her own life.
455
00:26:03,962 --> 00:26:05,308
Yes.
456
00:26:07,069 --> 00:26:08,588
This must be
very painful for you,
457
00:26:08,691 --> 00:26:10,590
but do you think
you can speak about that?
458
00:26:13,938 --> 00:26:17,286
She was born into it,
same as me.
459
00:26:18,908 --> 00:26:21,152
Hated what our family
stood for.
460
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:24,673
Her brother told me...
461
00:26:26,295 --> 00:26:27,537
what a piece of work he was.
462
00:26:27,641 --> 00:26:28,677
Oh, yeah,
you don't need to tell us
463
00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:31,093
what he was capable of,
believe you me.
464
00:26:31,887 --> 00:26:33,613
He controlled mum's life.
465
00:26:34,268 --> 00:26:36,063
Did he control yours?
466
00:26:38,169 --> 00:26:40,033
Not at first.
467
00:26:42,552 --> 00:26:44,313
My mum was still a girl.
468
00:26:44,762 --> 00:26:46,039
Fifteen.
469
00:26:46,833 --> 00:26:48,558
Raped, she told me.
470
00:26:50,768 --> 00:26:52,770
Though I never knew
the details.
471
00:26:55,635 --> 00:26:58,154
Forced to go through
with the pregnancy.
472
00:26:58,776 --> 00:27:00,260
Tommy sent her away,
473
00:27:00,363 --> 00:27:02,642
back to Glasgow
under her mum's maiden name.
474
00:27:04,333 --> 00:27:06,646
I had no idea
about any of this
475
00:27:06,749 --> 00:27:08,889
until Tommy came looking.
476
00:27:08,993 --> 00:27:10,650
But that was later. Yes?
477
00:27:11,685 --> 00:27:14,654
I'd just turned 16.
478
00:27:14,757 --> 00:27:17,104
He'd heard
I was doing well in school.
479
00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:20,176
Never been in trouble.
Plus, no one knew me here.
480
00:27:21,315 --> 00:27:23,041
He wanted me for the police.
481
00:27:23,145 --> 00:27:25,975
He said, to do his bidding,
482
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:27,839
to be under his control.
483
00:27:37,918 --> 00:27:39,955
My mum
couldn't bear the thought
484
00:27:40,058 --> 00:27:42,129
of me being with Uncle Tommy.
485
00:27:42,233 --> 00:27:44,304
She knew
she couldn't protect me.
486
00:27:45,857 --> 00:27:47,548
That's why
she took her own life.
487
00:27:49,481 --> 00:27:51,380
Yes.
488
00:27:52,450 --> 00:27:54,728
It's all right. Take
your time. Take your time.
489
00:27:55,556 --> 00:27:57,041
You're doing well, Jo.
490
00:28:00,734 --> 00:28:03,323
So Tommy hid from you
he was your real father?
491
00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:06,257
Yes.
492
00:28:07,465 --> 00:28:09,294
Who did you believe
was your father?
493
00:28:14,058 --> 00:28:15,645
This person,
494
00:28:15,749 --> 00:28:17,889
did he control you
the same way Tommy Hunter did?
495
00:28:17,993 --> 00:28:19,339
We can all see
my colleague finds
496
00:28:19,442 --> 00:28:22,445
this line of questioning
extremely distressing.
497
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:24,171
In regard
to coercion and control,
498
00:28:24,275 --> 00:28:26,726
my colleague should be treated
as a vulnerable person.
499
00:28:26,829 --> 00:28:27,865
We'll move on. Tommy Hunter's
500
00:28:27,968 --> 00:28:29,314
no longer
a person of interest.
501
00:28:29,418 --> 00:28:31,040
I mean, he became an informant
and was killed
502
00:28:31,144 --> 00:28:34,147
by his own organisation
in 2014.
503
00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:37,219
It wasn't simply that
he was an informant, ma'am.
504
00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:40,084
What do you mean?
505
00:28:40,187 --> 00:28:42,327
Tommy had
cultivated relationships
506
00:28:42,431 --> 00:28:44,260
with corrupt police officers.
507
00:28:44,364 --> 00:28:46,435
But they started
to turn against him.
508
00:28:47,712 --> 00:28:49,403
He felt betrayed,
509
00:28:50,819 --> 00:28:53,960
so he threatened
to expose the mole.
510
00:28:54,063 --> 00:28:57,687
So it was police officers
who got Hunter killed?
511
00:28:57,791 --> 00:29:00,138
They were heavily involved.
512
00:29:00,242 --> 00:29:01,933
As you know,
your former officer,
513
00:29:02,037 --> 00:29:04,971
DI Matthew Cottan,
he orchestrated the plan.
514
00:29:05,074 --> 00:29:06,696
Cottan was a disgrace
to the uniform.
515
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,733
He betrayed the trust
of every single one of us
516
00:29:08,837 --> 00:29:10,079
that he worked with.
517
00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:11,322
So someone took Tommy's place
518
00:29:11,425 --> 00:29:12,702
at the top
of the organisation,
519
00:29:12,806 --> 00:29:15,153
and he gave Cottan
the order to kill Tommy?
520
00:29:15,257 --> 00:29:18,018
Tommy held it altogether.
521
00:29:18,122 --> 00:29:20,710
It broke up
into disparate elements.
522
00:29:20,814 --> 00:29:22,126
Smaller OCGs.
523
00:29:22,229 --> 00:29:23,713
The only thing
that united them was
524
00:29:23,817 --> 00:29:24,956
how much they stood to lose
525
00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:26,578
if Tommy carried out
his threat.
526
00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:28,270
'Cause they relied
on corrupt officers
527
00:29:28,373 --> 00:29:30,548
to carry out many of their
criminal enterprises?
528
00:29:30,790 --> 00:29:32,274
Yes.
529
00:29:32,377 --> 00:29:35,242
And they wanted to be able
to continue exploiting them.
530
00:29:35,346 --> 00:29:37,797
Yes, well, the OCGs, they may
not be working to one man,
531
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:40,282
but the bent coppers,
that's a different story.
532
00:29:40,385 --> 00:29:41,421
They're a network,
aren't they?
533
00:29:41,524 --> 00:29:43,112
This force has detected
no evidence
534
00:29:43,216 --> 00:29:44,665
of institutionalised
corruption.
535
00:29:44,769 --> 00:29:47,254
We have identified a number
of high-ranking figures
536
00:29:47,358 --> 00:29:50,257
in a clandestine network
of corrupt police officers.
537
00:29:50,361 --> 00:29:51,741
Hypothetical network.
538
00:29:51,845 --> 00:29:53,398
One such high-ranking figure,
539
00:29:53,502 --> 00:29:55,228
once erroneously codenamed H,
540
00:29:55,331 --> 00:29:57,540
we now refer to
as the fourth man,
541
00:29:57,644 --> 00:29:58,714
is he running the show?
542
00:30:00,785 --> 00:30:01,821
No comment.
543
00:30:03,305 --> 00:30:05,307
We're here to examine
DCI Davidson's offending.
544
00:30:05,410 --> 00:30:07,723
-No one else's.
-Alleged offending.
545
00:30:07,827 --> 00:30:09,621
Are you taking
your orders from him?
546
00:30:09,725 --> 00:30:11,209
Who is the fourth man?
547
00:30:13,349 --> 00:30:15,627
-I don't know.
-I don't believe you.
548
00:30:15,731 --> 00:30:17,422
Let's move on. Turning
to Operation Lighthouse,
549
00:30:17,526 --> 00:30:19,631
the inquiry
into the murder of Gail Vella,
550
00:30:19,735 --> 00:30:22,427
opened on the 10th
of September, 2019.
551
00:30:22,531 --> 00:30:25,120
You became senior
investigating officer when?
552
00:30:25,223 --> 00:30:27,639
The following month,
6th of October.
553
00:30:27,743 --> 00:30:28,709
Your predecessor was removed
554
00:30:28,813 --> 00:30:31,436
allegedly due to the inquiry's
slow progress.
555
00:30:32,817 --> 00:30:34,681
How did you
come to be appointed?
556
00:30:35,613 --> 00:30:38,202
I'm an experienced
murder investigator.
557
00:30:39,203 --> 00:30:41,101
Image 24 on screen.
558
00:30:45,381 --> 00:30:47,728
What is shown on Image 24?
559
00:30:47,832 --> 00:30:49,351
No comment.
560
00:30:49,454 --> 00:30:52,354
Image 24 shows
item reference FD-8
561
00:30:52,457 --> 00:30:54,563
seized in evidence
during a search of apartment
562
00:30:54,666 --> 00:30:56,220
G-9 Croxford Street.
563
00:30:56,323 --> 00:30:58,463
Document 39 in your folders.
564
00:30:58,567 --> 00:31:01,881
Document 39 is a photocopy
of the content of FD-8.
565
00:31:01,984 --> 00:31:03,779
You will see that FD-8
contain documents
566
00:31:03,883 --> 00:31:05,470
relating to Operation Lighthouse.
567
00:31:05,574 --> 00:31:06,920
Now these documents
were not present
568
00:31:07,024 --> 00:31:08,232
at Hillside Lane
Police Station
569
00:31:08,335 --> 00:31:10,199
on the 4th of November
of this year,
570
00:31:10,303 --> 00:31:11,925
when AC-12 seized all files
571
00:31:12,029 --> 00:31:13,409
relating to Operation Lighthouse.
572
00:31:13,513 --> 00:31:15,549
Why were these documents
in your apartment?
573
00:31:17,034 --> 00:31:18,380
No comment.
574
00:31:18,483 --> 00:31:20,209
These documents
revealed for the first time
575
00:31:20,313 --> 00:31:22,625
that Detective Superintendent
Ian Buckells noted
576
00:31:22,729 --> 00:31:26,526
that your predecessor and SIO
was pursuing a line of inquiry
577
00:31:26,629 --> 00:31:29,218
that Gail Vella's murder
was a contract killing
578
00:31:29,322 --> 00:31:31,324
carried out
by organised criminals.
579
00:31:31,427 --> 00:31:33,913
However, Detective
Superintendent Buckells
580
00:31:34,016 --> 00:31:35,707
then wrote a memorandum
suggesting that
581
00:31:35,811 --> 00:31:38,538
the SIO was failing
to make any progress
582
00:31:38,641 --> 00:31:41,265
and that a new SIO
be appointed.
583
00:31:41,368 --> 00:31:44,233
Buckells mentions you by name.
Did you ever work together?
584
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,133
Not to my knowledge.
585
00:31:47,236 --> 00:31:50,308
Hmm. So what motivated
Ian Buckells nominating you
586
00:31:50,412 --> 00:31:52,276
to be the senior
investigating officer
587
00:31:52,379 --> 00:31:53,760
on the Gail Vella murder?
588
00:31:53,863 --> 00:31:55,244
You'd have to ask
Ian Buckells.
589
00:31:55,348 --> 00:31:56,418
Yes, well, we did,
590
00:31:56,521 --> 00:31:59,490
and he denies all knowledge
of the documents.
591
00:31:59,593 --> 00:32:01,354
The same way
he still claims no knowledge
592
00:32:01,457 --> 00:32:03,114
of the missing
Operation Lighthouse files
593
00:32:03,218 --> 00:32:05,841
subsequently found hidden
in his service vehicle.
594
00:32:05,945 --> 00:32:08,948
Did you,
or someone close to you,
595
00:32:09,051 --> 00:32:10,225
engineer your appointment
596
00:32:10,328 --> 00:32:12,468
with Buckells
as the convenient stooge?
597
00:32:12,986 --> 00:32:14,263
No comment.
598
00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:16,265
You see, the last thing that
organised crime would want
599
00:32:16,369 --> 00:32:18,440
is Operation Lighthouse
coming knocking on their door.
600
00:32:18,543 --> 00:32:20,131
So they had to put in
a new SIO
601
00:32:20,235 --> 00:32:22,099
to suppress
that line of inquiry
602
00:32:22,202 --> 00:32:24,515
in favour of a random
act of violence
603
00:32:24,618 --> 00:32:27,932
perpetrated by a disturbed
individual acting alone.
604
00:32:28,036 --> 00:32:30,900
A frame that neatly fits
Terry Boyle.
605
00:32:31,004 --> 00:32:33,248
I refused
to charge Terry Boyle.
606
00:32:33,938 --> 00:32:35,353
Well, why not?
607
00:32:35,457 --> 00:32:37,010
There was just about
enough evidence.
608
00:32:37,114 --> 00:32:39,564
Why did you not seek authority
to charge Boyle?
609
00:32:42,464 --> 00:32:44,397
Was it because you
couldn't go through with it?
610
00:32:48,194 --> 00:32:50,437
Is it because you just
couldn't live with the idea
611
00:32:50,541 --> 00:32:53,302
of sending an innocent man
to trial?
612
00:32:55,028 --> 00:32:56,305
Yes.
613
00:32:57,548 --> 00:33:00,171
Good. At last,
we're getting somewhere.
614
00:33:00,275 --> 00:33:02,173
Okay, let's examine
the other recent prime suspect
615
00:33:02,277 --> 00:33:04,279
identified by Operation Lighthouse.
616
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:06,971
Image 29 on screen.
617
00:33:07,075 --> 00:33:09,525
Image 29 shows
Terry Boyle on the right.
618
00:33:09,629 --> 00:33:12,045
On the left,
Image 29 shows Carl Banks.
619
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:13,909
Carl Banks
was a nonviolent offender
620
00:33:14,013 --> 00:33:16,291
with lifelong links
to organised crime.
621
00:33:16,394 --> 00:33:17,775
On the night
of the 26th of October,
622
00:33:17,878 --> 00:33:19,915
the Murder Investigation Team
received a tip-off
623
00:33:20,019 --> 00:33:22,504
that an individual who was
almost certainly Carl Banks
624
00:33:22,607 --> 00:33:25,093
had confessed
to the murder of Gail Vella.
625
00:33:25,196 --> 00:33:27,095
As a result
of delays and leaks,
626
00:33:27,198 --> 00:33:29,097
Carl Banks was abducted
and murdered
627
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,168
and Terry Boyle
installed in his place.
628
00:33:31,271 --> 00:33:34,033
PS Farida Jatri was charged
with leaking the information
629
00:33:34,136 --> 00:33:38,416
based on evidence
seized from 29 Stalton Drive.
630
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,213
The address where she claims
the two of you lived.
631
00:33:42,317 --> 00:33:45,044
Did you plant evidence
against Farida Jatri?
632
00:33:47,667 --> 00:33:48,737
No comment.
633
00:33:50,808 --> 00:33:52,189
You've already told us
634
00:33:52,292 --> 00:33:55,399
that you were coerced
into a life of crime,
635
00:33:55,502 --> 00:33:59,023
that you were forced
to mislead and deceive.
636
00:33:59,127 --> 00:34:01,370
Here, now, you have a choice.
637
00:34:02,130 --> 00:34:05,305
A choice to tell the truth.
638
00:34:13,969 --> 00:34:16,144
I planted the burner phones.
639
00:34:16,247 --> 00:34:17,835
Farida's innocent.
640
00:34:18,767 --> 00:34:19,837
Good.
641
00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:23,151
Good.
642
00:34:23,254 --> 00:34:25,705
Who leaked the information
regarding the operation
643
00:34:25,808 --> 00:34:27,258
to arrest Carl Banks?
644
00:34:27,707 --> 00:34:28,846
I did.
645
00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:29,950
And the armed robbery
646
00:34:30,054 --> 00:34:31,711
staged to coincide
with the operation...
647
00:34:32,194 --> 00:34:33,678
You knew about that?
648
00:34:33,782 --> 00:34:37,130
It was a decoy I used
to delay Banks' arrest.
649
00:34:37,234 --> 00:34:38,442
And the mistakes
in surveillance
650
00:34:38,545 --> 00:34:41,479
attributed Detective
Superintendent Buckells.
651
00:34:41,583 --> 00:34:44,724
I manipulated him into those.
It wasn't hard.
652
00:34:44,827 --> 00:34:46,001
And the files
that were planted
653
00:34:46,105 --> 00:34:47,244
in his service vehicle?
654
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:50,902
I planted those.
655
00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:52,180
What about the witness
who came forward
656
00:34:52,283 --> 00:34:53,767
to incriminate Terry Boyle?
657
00:34:53,871 --> 00:34:55,183
Deborah Devereux.
658
00:34:55,286 --> 00:34:56,391
All I know is we found out
659
00:34:56,494 --> 00:34:59,463
she was a former girlfriend
of DSU Buckells.
660
00:34:59,566 --> 00:35:01,913
And the full statement
from Deborah Devereux,
661
00:35:02,017 --> 00:35:03,536
Buckells set that up?
662
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:06,746
I don't know if he set that up
himself or someone else did.
663
00:35:06,849 --> 00:35:08,161
Why would he do that?
664
00:35:09,197 --> 00:35:11,578
He was worried the failure
to solve the murder
665
00:35:11,682 --> 00:35:13,339
was making him look bad.
666
00:35:13,442 --> 00:35:15,548
He was desperate for me
to charge someone.
667
00:35:15,651 --> 00:35:17,653
Let's be clear.
You have no evidence
668
00:35:17,757 --> 00:35:18,896
that Buckells was responsible
669
00:35:18,999 --> 00:35:20,725
for Deborah Devereux's
full statement?
670
00:35:21,243 --> 00:35:22,624
Correct, ma'am.
671
00:35:22,727 --> 00:35:24,971
And his desire
to charge Terry Boyle
672
00:35:25,074 --> 00:35:27,111
was born
out of a legitimate fear
673
00:35:27,215 --> 00:35:29,148
for the advancement
of his career?
674
00:35:29,734 --> 00:35:31,978
It appeared so, ma'am.
675
00:35:32,081 --> 00:35:33,635
DI Arnott, can you bookmark
the DI's answer as
676
00:35:33,738 --> 00:35:34,912
a significant testimony
677
00:35:35,015 --> 00:35:36,155
in determining
whether the charges
678
00:35:36,258 --> 00:35:37,639
against Detective
Superintendent Buckells
679
00:35:37,742 --> 00:35:38,709
should be discontinued?
680
00:35:43,576 --> 00:35:44,991
Okay, moving on.
What can you tell us
681
00:35:45,094 --> 00:35:47,096
about the evidence
against Terry Boyle?
682
00:35:48,374 --> 00:35:50,962
The images of Gail Vella
found in his flat
683
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,481
would seem
to have been planted.
684
00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:54,656
To the best of your knowledge,
was Terry Boyle involved
685
00:35:54,759 --> 00:35:56,105
in the murder of Gail Vella?
686
00:35:56,658 --> 00:35:58,211
No, he was not.
687
00:35:58,315 --> 00:36:00,731
To the best of your knowledge,
was Carl Banks involved
688
00:36:00,834 --> 00:36:02,457
in the murder of Gail Vella?
689
00:36:06,771 --> 00:36:08,083
No comment.
690
00:36:08,187 --> 00:36:10,119
Here we go again.
691
00:36:10,223 --> 00:36:12,087
We know Gail Vella attempted
to make contact
692
00:36:12,191 --> 00:36:13,951
with Carl Banks' brother,
Lee Banks,
693
00:36:14,054 --> 00:36:15,573
an inmate
in Blackthorn Prison.
694
00:36:16,574 --> 00:36:18,266
We believe
Lee Banks informed Carl
695
00:36:18,369 --> 00:36:19,922
Gail Vella
was investigating stories
696
00:36:20,026 --> 00:36:22,373
that the OCG
were determined to suppress.
697
00:36:22,477 --> 00:36:24,858
In regards Gail Vella's
investigative journalism,
698
00:36:24,962 --> 00:36:26,377
let's now examine
your movements
699
00:36:26,481 --> 00:36:29,277
prior to your arrest
last night. DI Arnott.
700
00:36:29,380 --> 00:36:31,451
On screen, Image 41.
701
00:36:31,555 --> 00:36:33,591
Image 41 is a map
showing telemetry
702
00:36:33,695 --> 00:36:35,352
from a tracking device
attached to vehicle
703
00:36:35,455 --> 00:36:38,286
Victor, Oscar, 6-9,
Golf, Kilo, Yankee
704
00:36:38,389 --> 00:36:41,634
in the early hours
of the 24th of November, 2020.
705
00:36:41,737 --> 00:36:44,223
Victor, Oscar, 6-9,
Golf, Kilo, Yankee
706
00:36:44,326 --> 00:36:45,879
is the vehicle in which
you were a passenger
707
00:36:45,983 --> 00:36:47,709
at the time of your arrest.
708
00:36:47,812 --> 00:36:50,470
Telemetry location two is the
scene of Gail Vella's murder.
709
00:36:50,574 --> 00:36:53,922
Telemetry location three
relates the derelict premises
710
00:36:54,025 --> 00:36:55,751
of the Kingsgate
Printing Services.
711
00:36:55,855 --> 00:36:58,098
Who's directing
the movements of the vehicle?
712
00:36:59,203 --> 00:37:00,480
No comment.
713
00:37:00,584 --> 00:37:02,758
A forensic search
of Kingsgate Printing Services
714
00:37:02,862 --> 00:37:04,622
has been carried out.
715
00:37:05,727 --> 00:37:07,487
Image 45 on screen.
716
00:37:07,591 --> 00:37:09,627
Image 45,
it's a crime scene photograph
717
00:37:09,731 --> 00:37:12,112
captured at
Kingsgate Printing services,
718
00:37:12,216 --> 00:37:14,391
showing the inside
of the abandoned premises.
719
00:37:14,943 --> 00:37:16,738
Image 46.
720
00:37:16,841 --> 00:37:18,809
Image 46
is an item of evidence
721
00:37:18,912 --> 00:37:20,259
detected by the search team.
722
00:37:20,362 --> 00:37:22,019
Item reference TG-8.
723
00:37:22,122 --> 00:37:24,159
TG-8 is a metal strongbox.
724
00:37:24,263 --> 00:37:27,127
Contents of TG-8
shown in Image 47.
725
00:37:28,336 --> 00:37:30,372
What is shown in Image 47?
726
00:37:30,855 --> 00:37:32,340
No comment.
727
00:37:32,443 --> 00:37:36,654
Image 47 shows item references
TG-11 and TG-12.
728
00:37:36,758 --> 00:37:37,586
A laptop computer
729
00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:39,830
and desktop computer,
respectively.
730
00:37:39,933 --> 00:37:42,039
Forensic examination
of these devices
731
00:37:42,142 --> 00:37:44,455
detected fingerprints
matching Gail Vella.
732
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:46,112
We believe
these devices were stolen
733
00:37:46,215 --> 00:37:48,321
from Gail Vella's home
around the time of her murder.
734
00:37:48,425 --> 00:37:51,462
Now the Operation Lighthouse
files that you withheld
735
00:37:51,566 --> 00:37:56,260
relate in part to evidence
of the theft of these devices.
736
00:37:56,364 --> 00:37:59,298
This is crucial evidence
you hid.
737
00:38:00,402 --> 00:38:02,439
I was leading
Kate Fleming there
738
00:38:02,542 --> 00:38:04,613
to uncover
the evidence to prove...
739
00:38:07,547 --> 00:38:08,721
Prove what?
740
00:38:10,895 --> 00:38:12,587
That I'm not bent.
741
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,970
Yes, but you hid this evidence
for months.
742
00:38:17,074 --> 00:38:19,041
Not months. No.
743
00:38:19,939 --> 00:38:21,458
That's not what happened.
744
00:38:22,597 --> 00:38:25,151
I only began to suspect
the evidence might be there
745
00:38:25,254 --> 00:38:27,118
after Terry Boyle's arrest.
746
00:38:28,534 --> 00:38:32,331
The print shop had been
long abandoned by the OCG.
747
00:38:32,434 --> 00:38:34,988
Police searches
concluded there 18 months ago,
748
00:38:35,092 --> 00:38:37,612
and it was
right across the street.
749
00:38:37,715 --> 00:38:39,821
But you never ordered
a search of the print shop.
750
00:38:43,514 --> 00:38:44,757
Cyber Crime examined
751
00:38:44,860 --> 00:38:46,759
the hard drives
of both devices.
752
00:38:46,862 --> 00:38:50,038
Passwords were input
to access the stored files.
753
00:38:50,141 --> 00:38:51,557
How were these passwords
being obtained?
754
00:38:53,144 --> 00:38:54,214
No comment.
755
00:38:54,318 --> 00:38:55,319
Well, taking for granted
756
00:38:55,423 --> 00:38:57,148
the involvement
of organised crime,
757
00:38:57,252 --> 00:38:59,219
I'd suggest an employee
in the IT Department
758
00:38:59,323 --> 00:39:01,290
of Gail Vella's news service
was exploited
759
00:39:01,394 --> 00:39:04,052
using bribery, blackmail
or intimidation.
760
00:39:05,053 --> 00:39:06,123
No comment.
761
00:39:06,226 --> 00:39:07,435
Numerous files were detected
762
00:39:07,538 --> 00:39:09,160
relating to Gail Vella's
investigations
763
00:39:09,264 --> 00:39:10,955
into the links
between organised crime
764
00:39:11,059 --> 00:39:12,267
and corrupt police officers.
765
00:39:12,923 --> 00:39:14,303
We have found audio files
766
00:39:14,407 --> 00:39:16,340
of interviews
of Jimmy Lakewell.
767
00:39:16,444 --> 00:39:18,100
We have found research files
768
00:39:18,204 --> 00:39:20,240
confirming that Gail Vella
was investigating
769
00:39:20,344 --> 00:39:22,173
the suppression
of police inquiries
770
00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:25,729
into historic
child sexual exploitation.
771
00:39:25,832 --> 00:39:26,971
And we have found research
772
00:39:27,075 --> 00:39:30,009
confirming that Gail Vella
was digging deep
773
00:39:30,112 --> 00:39:31,907
into police failure
774
00:39:32,011 --> 00:39:34,254
in the murder
of Lawrence Christopher.
775
00:39:36,049 --> 00:39:37,465
Did you know
Gail Vella was looking
776
00:39:37,568 --> 00:39:39,398
into the Lawrence Christopher
murder?
777
00:39:39,501 --> 00:39:40,571
No.
778
00:39:41,814 --> 00:39:43,125
According to notes
found on Gail Vella's devices,
779
00:39:43,229 --> 00:39:45,956
she visited Lee Banks
on 26th of August, 2019,
780
00:39:46,059 --> 00:39:47,233
in Blackthorn Prison.
781
00:39:47,336 --> 00:39:50,823
Now as you know, Lee Banks
is Carl Banks' brother.
782
00:39:50,926 --> 00:39:52,203
It appears
from Gail Vella's notes
783
00:39:52,307 --> 00:39:54,205
that Lee Banks declined
to furnish any information
784
00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,484
regarding the murder
of Lawrence Christopher.
785
00:39:56,587 --> 00:39:58,486
We believe
Lee informed Carl Banks
786
00:39:58,589 --> 00:40:01,937
and this was in large part
the motivation for her murder.
787
00:40:02,041 --> 00:40:03,560
Do you really
expect us to believe
788
00:40:03,663 --> 00:40:04,768
that you didn't know this?
789
00:40:06,494 --> 00:40:07,874
I didn't.
790
00:40:07,978 --> 00:40:09,911
I'll give you "I didn't".
791
00:40:10,014 --> 00:40:11,188
One of the suspects
792
00:40:11,291 --> 00:40:12,672
in the Lawrence Christopher
murder is your cousin,
793
00:40:12,776 --> 00:40:14,260
Darren Hunter.
794
00:40:15,848 --> 00:40:17,401
I, erm...
795
00:40:17,505 --> 00:40:19,368
I mean, maybe if
Darren had been arrested,
796
00:40:19,472 --> 00:40:20,439
he would have squealed.
797
00:40:20,542 --> 00:40:21,923
He would have given up
Tommy Hunter.
798
00:40:22,026 --> 00:40:23,580
He would have given up you.
799
00:40:23,683 --> 00:40:25,651
I... I didn't know.
800
00:40:25,754 --> 00:40:28,447
The initial inquiry into
Lawrence Christopher's murder
801
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:30,932
was led by
DCI Marcus Thurwell.
802
00:40:31,035 --> 00:40:32,243
Do you know that name?
803
00:40:34,073 --> 00:40:35,143
No comment.
804
00:40:35,246 --> 00:40:37,248
On screen, image 75.
805
00:40:42,046 --> 00:40:44,152
Who is shown an image 75?
806
00:40:45,084 --> 00:40:46,430
No comment.
807
00:40:48,536 --> 00:40:50,469
On screen, image 77.
808
00:40:50,572 --> 00:40:52,574
The last known image
of the same individual.
809
00:40:53,161 --> 00:40:54,369
Who is that?
810
00:40:55,128 --> 00:40:56,923
No comment.
811
00:40:57,027 --> 00:40:59,132
Image 77
shows Marcus Thurwell.
812
00:41:00,271 --> 00:41:03,136
What's your relationship
to Marcus Thurwell?
813
00:41:05,449 --> 00:41:06,346
No comment.
814
00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:08,556
Files detected
on Gail Vella's computer
815
00:41:08,659 --> 00:41:10,040
proved that
she was investigating,
816
00:41:10,143 --> 00:41:11,248
not just Thurwell's role,
817
00:41:11,351 --> 00:41:14,147
but the role of other officers
in the inquiry.
818
00:41:15,528 --> 00:41:18,876
Notably Detective Constable
Ian Buckells,
819
00:41:18,980 --> 00:41:21,361
and Inspector Philip Osborne.
820
00:41:23,432 --> 00:41:25,158
The interviewee
has repeatedly claimed
821
00:41:25,262 --> 00:41:27,436
she doesn't know
about any of this.
822
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:28,714
It's a dead end.
823
00:41:32,096 --> 00:41:33,512
So let's focus on events
824
00:41:33,615 --> 00:41:36,307
surrounding the killing
of PC Ryan Pilkington.
825
00:41:36,411 --> 00:41:39,276
Ma'am,
this is significant evidence
826
00:41:39,379 --> 00:41:41,347
crucial to the wider inquiry
827
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:43,970
into institutionalised
corruption.
828
00:41:44,074 --> 00:41:46,870
Yes, and I would prefer
to confine ourselves
829
00:41:46,973 --> 00:41:48,112
to the set parameters
830
00:41:48,216 --> 00:41:50,667
of the anti-corruption inquiry
in front of us.
831
00:41:51,668 --> 00:41:52,945
DI Arnott,
832
00:41:53,048 --> 00:41:54,256
if you wouldn't mind,
833
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,189
let's jiffy things along,
shall we?
834
00:41:56,914 --> 00:41:58,122
Ma'am.
835
00:41:58,813 --> 00:42:00,124
On screen,
836
00:42:00,228 --> 00:42:02,713
images 62 to 65, inclusive.
837
00:42:02,817 --> 00:42:07,028
Crime scene photographs
of PC Ryan Pilkington's body.
838
00:42:07,131 --> 00:42:09,271
How did Ryan Pilkington
meet his death?
839
00:42:09,824 --> 00:42:11,032
No comment.
840
00:42:11,998 --> 00:42:14,587
Document 60 in your folders.
841
00:42:14,691 --> 00:42:16,831
Document 60
is the forensic pathologist's
842
00:42:16,934 --> 00:42:19,592
post-mortem report
on Ryan Pilkington.
843
00:42:19,696 --> 00:42:22,733
Cause of death was two
gunshot wounds to the chest.
844
00:42:22,837 --> 00:42:26,357
At post-mortem, two Parabellum
9/19mm rounds
845
00:42:26,461 --> 00:42:28,463
were recovered
from the thoracic cavity.
846
00:42:28,567 --> 00:42:32,156
Ryan Pilkington was fatally
wounded by a firearm.
847
00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:33,813
Describe what happened.
848
00:42:36,747 --> 00:42:38,231
No comment.
849
00:42:38,749 --> 00:42:40,130
DI Arnott.
850
00:42:46,964 --> 00:42:48,483
DI Arnott.
851
00:42:52,418 --> 00:42:55,041
Document 78 in your folders.
852
00:42:55,145 --> 00:42:57,941
Document 78 is a report
issued by neighbours
853
00:42:58,044 --> 00:43:00,357
on the 24th of November, 2020.
854
00:43:00,460 --> 00:43:02,704
Please refer to page two,
paragraph six.
855
00:43:03,671 --> 00:43:04,948
Both Parabellum rounds
856
00:43:05,051 --> 00:43:06,570
recovered from the deceased
show markings
857
00:43:06,674 --> 00:43:09,366
consistent with being fired
from a Glock 17 pistol,
858
00:43:09,469 --> 00:43:12,921
serial number 2-7-7-5-3-1.
859
00:43:13,025 --> 00:43:16,304
2-7-7-5-3-1 is the firearm
lawfully issued
860
00:43:16,407 --> 00:43:18,478
on the 20th of November, 2020
861
00:43:18,582 --> 00:43:20,619
to Detective Inspector
Kate Fleming.
862
00:43:22,482 --> 00:43:24,208
Fingerprints matching
DI Fleming
863
00:43:24,312 --> 00:43:27,626
were also detected
on 2-7-7-5-3-1.
864
00:43:28,868 --> 00:43:31,595
Did DI Fleming shoot dead
Ryan Pilkington?
865
00:43:37,636 --> 00:43:38,844
No.
866
00:43:40,811 --> 00:43:41,847
No?
867
00:43:43,918 --> 00:43:45,333
Who, then?
868
00:43:47,715 --> 00:43:48,750
I did.
869
00:43:51,857 --> 00:43:53,203
Hmm.
870
00:43:54,549 --> 00:43:56,378
That doesn't square
with the forensic evidence,
871
00:43:56,482 --> 00:43:57,448
I'm afraid.
872
00:43:58,518 --> 00:44:01,142
Naturally, Kate's prints
were on the firearm.
873
00:44:01,245 --> 00:44:02,661
She'd handled it repeatedly.
874
00:44:02,764 --> 00:44:05,146
But you'll also have found
my prints on the firearm.
875
00:44:05,802 --> 00:44:07,217
That's correct. We did.
876
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,495
Because she was forced
to hand it over to me.
877
00:44:10,738 --> 00:44:13,085
Ryan had her at gunpoint.
878
00:44:13,188 --> 00:44:15,535
I turned Kate's firearm
on Ryan.
879
00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:21,058
At the time of your arrest,
Fleming had her firearm.
880
00:44:21,162 --> 00:44:22,508
You had Pilkington's.
881
00:44:23,129 --> 00:44:25,235
I returned Kate's firearm.
882
00:44:25,338 --> 00:44:26,650
I picked up Ryan's.
883
00:44:27,789 --> 00:44:30,343
Forensic analysis of clothing
worn by DI Fleming
884
00:44:30,447 --> 00:44:32,967
detected a dense distribution
of gunshot residue
885
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:34,347
on the right-hand sleeve,
886
00:44:34,451 --> 00:44:36,280
a finding commonly associated
887
00:44:36,384 --> 00:44:39,111
with the discharging
of a firearm.
888
00:44:40,733 --> 00:44:43,771
Kate was in the process
of handing me the firearm.
889
00:44:43,874 --> 00:44:45,876
when I turned the firearm
on Ryan
890
00:44:45,980 --> 00:44:48,292
and discharged
the fatal shots.
891
00:44:48,396 --> 00:44:51,054
Kate's sleeve absorbed
the gunshot powder.
892
00:44:51,675 --> 00:44:53,263
Joanne Davidson.
893
00:44:53,988 --> 00:44:55,368
To be clear,
894
00:44:55,886 --> 00:44:56,991
you are confessing
895
00:44:57,094 --> 00:44:59,303
to the murder
of Ryan Pilkington,
896
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,168
No, ma'am.
897
00:45:03,204 --> 00:45:06,103
Pilkington was about to fire
on DI Fleming.
898
00:45:06,207 --> 00:45:07,242
At the time of the incident,
899
00:45:07,346 --> 00:45:09,520
I was a serving
police officer.
900
00:45:09,624 --> 00:45:14,146
Under common law section three
of the Criminal Law Act 1967,
901
00:45:14,249 --> 00:45:15,388
and Section 117
902
00:45:15,492 --> 00:45:18,322
of the Police and Criminal
Evidence Act 1984,
903
00:45:18,426 --> 00:45:20,531
I am permitted
to employ lethal force
904
00:45:20,635 --> 00:45:23,293
to prevent
an imminent threat to life.
905
00:45:23,396 --> 00:45:25,157
My colleague
was acting lawfully.
906
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:27,642
I think you'll find
that's for a court to decide.
907
00:45:31,888 --> 00:45:34,373
You weren't in league
with Pilkington?
908
00:45:34,476 --> 00:45:38,446
Ryan Pilkington was imposed
on MIT against my will.
909
00:45:38,549 --> 00:45:41,311
I was fully aware
of his OCG connections.
910
00:45:42,208 --> 00:45:43,900
He was there to intimidate me
911
00:45:44,003 --> 00:45:46,281
into misleading
Operation Lighthouse.
912
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,839
So, who was giving
Pilkington his orders?
913
00:45:51,942 --> 00:45:53,185
Was it Marcus Thurwell?
914
00:45:54,945 --> 00:45:56,188
No comment.
915
00:45:56,291 --> 00:45:58,328
We have presented
clear evidence
916
00:45:58,431 --> 00:46:01,055
that you were getting
your instructions from Spain.
917
00:46:01,158 --> 00:46:02,228
We also know
from our inquiries
918
00:46:02,332 --> 00:46:03,782
that Thurwell was in Spain.
919
00:46:05,059 --> 00:46:07,647
Is this the person
running the show? Yes?
920
00:46:08,821 --> 00:46:09,857
No comment.
921
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,583
Marcus Thurwell was SIO
922
00:46:12,687 --> 00:46:14,793
in the Lawrence Christopher
murder inquiry.
923
00:46:14,896 --> 00:46:15,932
Now, we believe
924
00:46:16,035 --> 00:46:19,142
that he deliberately
misled that inquiry
925
00:46:19,245 --> 00:46:21,972
to protect Darren Hunter,
Tommy Hunter's son,
926
00:46:22,076 --> 00:46:25,044
on the expressed orders
of Tommy Hunter.
927
00:46:26,459 --> 00:46:27,806
No comment.
928
00:46:27,909 --> 00:46:29,083
Lawrence Christopher,
929
00:46:29,186 --> 00:46:31,326
he was an architect.
he was a model citizen,
930
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:34,364
he had his head smashed in
with a piece of lead piping
931
00:46:34,467 --> 00:46:36,400
by a bunch of racist thugs,
932
00:46:36,504 --> 00:46:38,368
one of whom was your cousin.
933
00:46:38,471 --> 00:46:40,577
Superintendent, your
questioning is oppressive.
934
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,612
I'll give you oppressive.
935
00:46:42,682 --> 00:46:43,649
Look, that lad had
his whole life ahead of him,
936
00:46:43,752 --> 00:46:45,030
just like Gail Vella.
937
00:46:47,860 --> 00:46:50,035
They both died
horrible deaths.
938
00:46:50,138 --> 00:46:52,278
I dread to imagine
what they suffered.
939
00:46:52,382 --> 00:46:54,867
Yes. Well, then
give them justice.
940
00:46:54,971 --> 00:46:56,800
Tell us
who's giving the orders.
941
00:46:57,974 --> 00:46:59,182
I can't.
942
00:46:59,630 --> 00:47:00,528
I'm sorry.
943
00:47:00,631 --> 00:47:02,081
Is it Thurwell?
Is it someone else?
944
00:47:02,185 --> 00:47:04,187
-It is Osborne?
-I think we'll leave it there.
945
00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:06,534
Is it the Chief Constable?
946
00:47:06,637 --> 00:47:10,124
Thank you,
Superintendent Hastings.
947
00:47:10,227 --> 00:47:12,505
Joanne Davidson, do you have
anything further to say?
948
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:15,508
No.
949
00:47:15,612 --> 00:47:17,131
Joanne Davidson,
I've been in consultation
950
00:47:17,234 --> 00:47:19,271
with the senior prosecutor
at the Complex Case Unit.
951
00:47:19,374 --> 00:47:21,100
Nothing you have disclosed
during this interview
952
00:47:21,204 --> 00:47:22,515
has impacted
on those discussions,
953
00:47:22,619 --> 00:47:25,035
and, therefore,
I am authorised to charge you
954
00:47:25,139 --> 00:47:26,485
with the following offences.
955
00:47:26,588 --> 00:47:27,900
Perverting the course
of justice
956
00:47:28,004 --> 00:47:29,591
and malfeasance
in a public office.
957
00:47:29,695 --> 00:47:32,318
I will consult further
regarding conspiracy
958
00:47:32,422 --> 00:47:34,976
to murder DI Kate Fleming
959
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,668
and any charges
relating to the death
960
00:47:37,772 --> 00:47:39,153
of PC Ryan Pilkington.
961
00:47:39,256 --> 00:47:41,224
You will be remanded
in custody.
962
00:47:42,156 --> 00:47:46,263
Interview terminated at 11:43.
963
00:47:50,405 --> 00:47:51,959
You take care
of the custody, son,
964
00:47:52,062 --> 00:47:53,477
just leave this one to me.
965
00:48:03,108 --> 00:48:04,385
I'm sorry.
966
00:48:05,041 --> 00:48:07,767
Yeah. Me too.
967
00:48:14,982 --> 00:48:16,466
You and I both know
that Jo Davidson's
968
00:48:16,569 --> 00:48:19,400
the best chance we ever had
of blowing wide open
969
00:48:19,503 --> 00:48:21,195
the network
of corrupt police officers
970
00:48:21,298 --> 00:48:23,852
in league
with organised crime.
971
00:48:23,956 --> 00:48:25,578
I must have been in
another interview,
972
00:48:25,682 --> 00:48:27,477
because every other answer
I heard was, "No comment."
973
00:48:27,580 --> 00:48:29,513
You let her
off the hook, ma'am.
974
00:48:29,617 --> 00:48:31,308
And as for shutting down
all my questions
975
00:48:31,412 --> 00:48:33,621
-about the fourth man...
-Superintendent.
976
00:48:33,724 --> 00:48:36,451
You are bitter about AC-12
being merged. Who wouldn't be?
977
00:48:36,555 --> 00:48:38,108
It's got nothing
to do with that.
978
00:48:38,212 --> 00:48:40,145
Inquiries into Jo Davidson
will continue.
979
00:48:40,248 --> 00:48:43,148
She has more to reveal.
We will get there in time.
980
00:48:45,081 --> 00:48:46,461
I don't have time.
981
00:49:24,775 --> 00:49:26,087
Sir?
982
00:49:27,744 --> 00:49:31,610
Sometimes you
don't lose, son,
983
00:49:33,336 --> 00:49:35,303
you just run out of time.
984
00:49:46,487 --> 00:49:47,522
As you were.
985
00:49:53,666 --> 00:49:55,151
The Crown Prosecutor
is gullible enough
986
00:49:55,254 --> 00:49:57,808
to consider proceedings
against Jo Davidson alone
987
00:49:57,912 --> 00:49:59,672
in the death
of Ryan Pilkington.
988
00:50:00,708 --> 00:50:02,296
Thank you very much, ma'am.
989
00:50:07,611 --> 00:50:09,406
Two shots to the chest,
990
00:50:10,062 --> 00:50:12,237
double tap. Mm.
991
00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:14,377
Like a firearms-
trained officer.
992
00:50:17,173 --> 00:50:20,107
Davidson's not
firearms trained, is she?
993
00:50:22,109 --> 00:50:23,834
You are, though,
aren't you, Kate?
994
00:50:25,112 --> 00:50:26,492
That's correct, ma'am.
995
00:50:30,289 --> 00:50:33,085
So you'll provide a first
account for my, er, team
996
00:50:33,189 --> 00:50:34,604
and then you're free to go.
997
00:50:37,917 --> 00:50:39,574
I'm not gullible, Kate.
998
00:50:41,921 --> 00:50:43,475
But I am pragmatic.
999
00:51:09,052 --> 00:51:10,226
All right?
1000
00:51:11,710 --> 00:51:12,849
All right.
1001
00:51:12,952 --> 00:51:14,402
Thought we'd got rid of you.
1002
00:51:14,506 --> 00:51:16,197
No such luck.
1003
00:51:17,578 --> 00:51:19,062
You sure you're OK?
1004
00:51:19,166 --> 00:51:20,236
I know
nobody's coming after you
1005
00:51:20,339 --> 00:51:21,513
over Ryan Pilkington's
shooting.
1006
00:51:21,616 --> 00:51:23,411
If you ever need
to talk about it...
1007
00:51:24,723 --> 00:51:27,588
Thanks, mate.
I appreciate it, but I'm fine.
1008
00:51:28,554 --> 00:51:30,625
So what did you
get out of Jo?
1009
00:51:30,729 --> 00:51:32,248
A lot less than we needed.
1010
00:51:33,421 --> 00:51:35,941
Did she say anything
about her family history?
1011
00:51:36,044 --> 00:51:37,494
She told me
her dad was a police officer.
1012
00:51:37,598 --> 00:51:39,462
No. Never even gave us
that much.
1013
00:51:40,187 --> 00:51:41,464
She's scared, Steve.
1014
00:51:41,567 --> 00:51:44,294
After what happened
to Tommy, Lakewell,
1015
00:51:44,398 --> 00:51:46,400
never mind John Corbett.
1016
00:51:46,503 --> 00:51:48,471
That's why we've got her
on the VPU apprentice,
1017
00:51:48,574 --> 00:51:51,094
security cameras
monitoring access to her cell.
1018
00:51:52,647 --> 00:51:53,717
So, what now?
1019
00:51:55,167 --> 00:51:58,860
Well, we're into the forensics
at the OCG workshop.
1020
00:51:58,964 --> 00:52:00,241
And as I'm
the senior detective
1021
00:52:00,345 --> 00:52:02,036
left on Operation Lighthouse,
1022
00:52:02,140 --> 00:52:03,210
I could be
the point of contact
1023
00:52:03,313 --> 00:52:05,281
between MIT and AC-12.
1024
00:52:06,213 --> 00:52:07,800
Works for me, mate.
1025
00:52:07,904 --> 00:52:09,216
Let's get this job done.
1026
00:52:09,319 --> 00:52:10,424
-I'll drive.
-I'll drive.
1027
00:52:14,324 --> 00:52:16,878
It'll be in the Red Lion
by 8:00. Nice work.
1028
00:52:16,982 --> 00:52:18,156
All right, Chris.
1029
00:52:18,259 --> 00:52:20,227
-Ma'am.
-You remember DI Arnott.
1030
00:52:20,675 --> 00:52:22,539
Sir.
1031
00:52:22,643 --> 00:52:25,266
Don't act like a tit, sarge.
We're all in it together.
1032
00:52:26,957 --> 00:52:28,166
What have you found?
1033
00:52:29,926 --> 00:52:33,067
There's strong evidence
of workshop in the firearms.
1034
00:52:33,171 --> 00:52:34,931
Neighbours have given
a preliminary report
1035
00:52:35,034 --> 00:52:37,140
of matches between
the machinery here
1036
00:52:37,244 --> 00:52:38,383
and the markings
on the firearms
1037
00:52:38,486 --> 00:52:40,661
used in the Jimmy Lakewell
ambush.
1038
00:52:40,764 --> 00:52:43,388
Forensics have harvested
prints and DNA,
1039
00:52:43,491 --> 00:52:45,804
just waiting on the lab
for any matches.
1040
00:52:45,907 --> 00:52:47,737
FC thinks
they've covered the ground.
1041
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,841
I'm gonna call off
1042
00:52:48,945 --> 00:52:50,533
the forensic deployment
tonight.
1043
00:52:50,636 --> 00:52:52,328
Now, you look
at the weight of those.
1044
00:52:52,983 --> 00:52:54,261
No way were two OCG men
1045
00:52:54,364 --> 00:52:55,710
on their own
gonna move 'em.
1046
00:52:56,297 --> 00:52:58,230
What was in their van?
1047
00:52:58,334 --> 00:53:00,577
Tarpaulins and rope.
1048
00:53:02,303 --> 00:53:04,305
Couple of pickaxes,
bolt cutters,
1049
00:53:04,409 --> 00:53:05,927
a couple of wrenches,
1050
00:53:06,031 --> 00:53:08,206
socket set, Stanley knives.
1051
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:12,348
Power tools, including
power saws and power drills.
1052
00:53:13,176 --> 00:53:14,695
Right.
Let's call out the GPR.
1053
00:53:14,798 --> 00:53:15,799
Find out
what's under that floor.
1054
00:53:16,662 --> 00:53:18,285
-Really?
-Yeah, really,
1055
00:53:23,635 --> 00:53:27,052
Sorry, mate. My DI's
requested GPR for wirework.
1056
00:53:39,064 --> 00:53:40,134
Chloe.
1057
00:53:40,238 --> 00:53:41,791
Sir, we think
we've found Thurwell.
1058
00:53:43,102 --> 00:53:44,863
We'll be right there.
1059
00:53:44,966 --> 00:53:46,589
They've located
Marcus Thurwell.
1060
00:53:47,762 --> 00:53:49,177
Let's go.
1061
00:54:08,196 --> 00:54:09,888
Ah, Kate. Steve.
1062
00:54:09,991 --> 00:54:11,165
Spanish authorities
are helping us
1063
00:54:11,269 --> 00:54:12,994
in our efforts
to apprehend Thurwell.
1064
00:54:13,098 --> 00:54:15,065
The Guardia Civil
have received intel
1065
00:54:15,169 --> 00:54:16,722
on this particular address.
1066
00:55:15,125 --> 00:55:17,231
Name of God
and his holy mother...
1067
00:55:23,237 --> 00:55:25,343
Two dead, sir.
Male plus female.
1068
00:55:33,316 --> 00:55:34,731
Thank you, Captain.
1069
00:55:34,835 --> 00:55:36,181
We'll leave
the rest to you.
1070
00:55:47,434 --> 00:55:50,713
It's just... It's another
kick in the teeth.
1071
00:55:50,816 --> 00:55:52,611
Only so much
a man can take!
1072
00:56:39,624 --> 00:56:40,694
Wait there, please.
1073
00:56:58,056 --> 00:57:00,196
Sorry. Wrong way.
1074
00:57:01,335 --> 00:57:03,544
God, this place is a maze.
1075
00:57:14,037 --> 00:57:15,383
For too long now,
1076
00:57:15,487 --> 00:57:17,247
police officers
have had to serve
1077
00:57:17,351 --> 00:57:20,596
faceless,
unaccountable bureaucrats.
1078
00:57:21,735 --> 00:57:25,083
We've even had to suffer
political opportunists
1079
00:57:25,186 --> 00:57:28,431
trying to win votes
by vilifying police officers
1080
00:57:28,535 --> 00:57:31,054
with false allegations
of corruption.
1081
00:57:31,986 --> 00:57:34,920
We defend this constabulary
1082
00:57:35,024 --> 00:57:36,888
from those
who would obstruct us
1083
00:57:36,991 --> 00:57:38,683
in serving the public.
1084
00:57:40,823 --> 00:57:44,861
Not only does this force
face enemies without,
1085
00:57:44,965 --> 00:57:47,105
there are enemies within.
1086
00:57:49,107 --> 00:57:52,662
I will personally see to it
those enemies within
1087
00:57:52,766 --> 00:57:55,493
are made to suffer
the consequences.
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