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- Excuse me?
Is this yours?
- Oh, yes, thank you.
I'm sure I'll find it.
I'm sure I'll find it.
Let's say half an hour.
Let's say half an hour.
Thank you.
- Mr. Fuller?
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, won't you come in, please?
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
- You did get here quickly, didn't you?
The room's upstairs of course,
so if you wouldn't mind following me, please.
so if you wouldn't mind following me, please.
Two gentlemen phoned just after you did Mr. Fuller,
Two gentlemen phoned just after you did Mr. Fuller,
but you were the first of course
and I did like your voice.
and I did like your voice.
Here we are.
Oh, well suddenly it turned quite warm.
Oh, well suddenly it turned quite warm.
I'm sure our climate's changing.
I'm sure our climate's changing.
They say it's due to the...
They say it's due to the...
You're not from this town evidently.
You're not from this town evidently.
- No.
- Our last visitor came from Manchester.
- Our last visitor came from Manchester.
He was an engineer.
What work do you do, Mr. Fuller?
What work do you do, Mr. Fuller?
- Well, I'm an accountant.
- Oh, come here to work no doubt?
Yes.
Yes.
- Oh, that's "The Blue Boy" by Gainsborough, you know?
- Oh, that's "The Blue Boy" by Gainsborough, you know?
- I know.
- I know.
- I've always been very fond of that picture.
- I've always been very fond of that picture.
You like it don't you Mr. Fuller?
You like it don't you Mr. Fuller?
Because if not, I can-
Because if not, I can-
- Oh no, it's just that well, my mother was fond of it, too.
- Oh no, it's just that well, my mother was fond of it, too.
- Oh, then you'll feel quite at home.
- Oh, then you'll feel quite at home.
I'll just show the bathroom.
I'll just show the bathroom.
- Oh, don't bother.
I'm more than happy with the room.
I'm more than happy with the room.
- Oh, I'm so pleased.
- I'll leave my suitcase and unpack it later.
- I'll leave my suitcase and unpack it later.
I have an appointment at noon in town.
I have an appointment at noon in town.
- Oh, yes, yes of course.
Well, I won't keep you.
Well, I won't keep you.
I did want you to meet Mr. Cartwright.
I did want you to meet Mr. Cartwright.
Arnold?
Arnold?
- Yes, Mother?
- Oh, Mr. Fuller, my husband.
- Oh, Mr. Fuller, my husband.
Very pleased to meet you.
- How do you do?
- How do you do?
- He's taking the room, Arnold.
Isn't that nice?
Isn't that nice?
- Oh yes, indeed.
- Oh yes, indeed.
Have a cup of tea with us, Mr. Fuller.
- Oh, no.
- Oh, no.
Mr. Fuller can't stay for tea.
About meals, you'll be having breakfast with us of course.
About meals, you'll be having breakfast with us of course.
About meals, you'll be having breakfast with us of course.
- Well, if it's not too much trouble.
- Oh, no, not at all.
And supper any evening.
If you'll just let me know in the morning.
If you'll just let me know in the morning.
If you'll just let me know in the morning.
This evening, perhaps.
- Well, I'm afraid not.
- Well, I'm afraid not.
I'm meeting someone on business.
Well, if you'll excuse me now.
Well, if you'll excuse me now.
- Oh!
- Oh!
Here's your key.
Here's your key.
- Oh, thank you.
- Oh, thank you.
- And you mustn't ever feel you're disturbing us
no matter how late you come in.
no matter how late you come in.
- Thank you very much.
- Thank you very much.
- Where are you from Mr. Fuller?
- London.
- No, I meant you're not English?
- No, I meant you're not English?
- No, but I've lived here a long time now.
- No, but I've lived here a long time now.
- Ever been in this part of the country before?
- Ever been in this part of the country before?
- No, why?
- No, why?
- Your face seemed familiar, that's all.
- Your face seemed familiar, that's all.
- How rather absurd, Arnold.
- How rather absurd, Arnold.
We're keeping Mr. Fuller.
We're keeping Mr. Fuller.
- Yes.
- Yes.
Sorry, I must run.
- We'll see you later.
- We'll see you later.
- Yes.
- He's nice.
- Clive Enterprises, good morning.
- Clive Enterprises, good morning.
Yes, one moment, please.
Yes, one moment, please.
Mr. Milne, Mr. Sanders for you.
Mr. Milne, Mr. Sanders for you.
You're through, Mr. Sanders.
You're through, Mr. Sanders.
Can I help you?
- Would you tell him Mr. Clive
that James Fuller is here to see him?
that James Fuller is here to see him?
- Yes, of course.
Mrs. Leighton, Mr. Fuller is here to see Mr. Clive.
Mrs. Leighton, Mr. Fuller is here to see Mr. Clive.
Yes, I will.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Will you go right in, please?
Through that door.
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
- Come in.
- Come in.
Will you say I'll see Mr. Milne after lunch,
Will you say I'll see Mr. Milne after lunch,
and I'll see Woolsy at three
and I'll see Woolsy at three
if he's got his facts together by then.
if he's got his facts together by then.
Hello, Fuller.
Hello, Fuller.
I'm very glad to see you.
- How do you do, Mr. Clive?
- How do you do, Mr. Clive?
- Right on the minute aren't you, too?
I like that.
Sit down.
I've just been glancing over your papers
I've just been glancing over your papers
as a matter of fact.
Your experience, your business background,
Your experience, your business background,
Your experience, your business background,
quite impressive for a young man, 36, hm?
quite impressive for a young man, 36, hm?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- I'm pleased to see that your first year
- I'm pleased to see that your first year
in prison they put you to accountancy.
in prison they put you to accountancy.
Work you were trained for.
Work you were trained for.
It's amazing to find the civil service acting
It's amazing to find the civil service acting
so intelligently don't you think?
- They do a good job on the whole, Mr. Clive.
- They do a good job on the whole, Mr. Clive.
- You came to England during the war?
- You came to England during the war?
Towards the end of it.
Towards the end of it.
- But your family's still in Canada, I believe?
- But your family's still in Canada, I believe?
- Yes.
- Yes.
But you decided to stay on?
- Well, I preferred it here.
- Well, now to be honest with you, Fuller,
- Well, now to be honest with you, Fuller,
I heard the entire story.
I heard the entire story.
I hesitated giving you a chance.
I hesitated giving you a chance.
A normal reaction, I think you'll agree.
A normal reaction, I think you'll agree.
But one man changed my entire thinking.
But one man changed my entire thinking.
I don't need to tell you who that was I suppose.
I don't need to tell you who that was I suppose.
Dr. McNally.
Dr. McNally.
You didn't know he came to see me?
You didn't know he came to see me?
- No.
- Yes you did.
When he was transferred here
When he was transferred here
from his prison appointment a month ago.
from his prison appointment a month ago.
You'll be reporting to him I believe.
You'll be reporting to him I believe.
- It's a condition of my parole.
- It's a condition of my parole.
- Yes, so he said.
- Yes, so he said.
He came to see me one evening,
He came to see me one evening,
came several evenings in fact.
came several evenings in fact.
I admit I resisted at first but then ,
I admit I resisted at first but then ,
well, he's a very direct,
well, he's a very direct,
a very tenacious man, Dr. McNally, wouldn't you say?
a very tenacious man, Dr. McNally, wouldn't you say?
- Yes, I would.
- Yes, I would.
- Mm hm.
And now, with reference to this prison matter,
And now, with reference to this prison matter,
your offense, your illness, strictly speaking.
your offense, your illness, strictly speaking.
your offense, your illness, strictly speaking.
He not only convinced me that you're absolutely cured,
He not only convinced me that you're absolutely cured,
but he has a great belief in you and your ability.
but he has a great belief in you and your ability.
As to that, I can soon form my own opinion can't I?
As to that, I can soon form my own opinion can't I?
Well, now that we've cleared the air a little,
Well, now that we've cleared the air a little,
as to your job.
as to your job.
You'll have no specific duties at the moment.
You'll have no specific duties at the moment.
I want you to familiarize yourself with this organization.
I want you to familiarize yourself with this organization.
I want you to familiarize yourself with this organization.
This is a growing flourishing city, Fuller,
This is a growing flourishing city, Fuller,
This is a growing flourishing city, Fuller,
and my organization is a part of that growth.
and my organization is a part of that growth.
I want to be one of the leaders of it.
I want to be one of the leaders of it.
I want my employees to feel the same.
I want my employees to feel the same.
Well, we may as well get started.
Well, we may as well get started.
Yes, Mr. Clive?
- Would you come in a moment, Ruth?
- Would you come in a moment, Ruth?
My secretary, Ruth Leighton.
My secretary, Ruth Leighton.
She knows you've been in prison, but nothing more than that.
She knows you've been in prison, but nothing more than that.
And nobody else here knows even that much.
And nobody else here knows even that much.
I think you'll like working here, Fuller.
I think you'll like working here, Fuller.
I think you'll like working here, Fuller.
We work hard and we relax hard.
We work hard and we relax hard.
Oh, Ruth.
Oh, Ruth.
Ruth, this is Mr. Fuller.
Ruth, this is Mr. Fuller.
Mrs. Leighton.
- How do you do?
- How do you do?
- Mrs. Leighton will show you where your office is,
she'll also give you all the material
she'll also give you all the material
you need to get started.
you need to get started.
The object?
Well, learn all you can about us,
Well, learn all you can about us,
and I'd like to hear what you think.
and I'd like to hear what you think.
- Yes, Mr. Clive.
- Yes, Mr. Clive.
And thanks again.
- I don't want to hear any more about that.
- I don't want to hear any more about that.
Good luck.
Good luck.
- These are the general offices,
- These are the general offices,
foreign interest, investment, ideal advertising.
foreign interest, investment, ideal advertising.
We have expanded so quickly
We have expanded so quickly
everything is pretty much lumped together.
everything is pretty much lumped together.
Salesmen, general typing and in secretarial staff.
Salesmen, general typing and in secretarial staff.
You are in one of the executive offices.
- Well, that's a very sudden promotion.
- Things happen that way at Clive Enterprises.
- Things happen that way at Clive Enterprises.
I think you'll like working here.
I think you'll like working here.
- Mr. Clive thought so, too.
- Oh?
- Oh?
- Oh, Ruth, that Waterford chap's been calling me.
- Oh, Ruth, that Waterford chap's been calling me.
I've been holding him off 'til Mr. Clive makes up his mind.
I've been holding him off 'til Mr. Clive makes up his mind.
- He's considering the matter now.
- All right. - Mr. Milne,
- All right. - Mr. Milne,
this is Mr. Fuller.
- Oh, pleased to meet you.
- Oh, pleased to meet you.
I heard you were coming.
I heard you were coming.
We can always use another good hand.
We can always use another good hand.
You'll like working here.
Did I say something funny?
Did I say something funny?
- No, Mr. Milne.
- No, Mr. Milne.
- I'd be obliged if you'd let me know
the minute the chief decides.
the minute the chief decides.
- Roy Milne, the second in command.
- Roy Milne, the second in command.
He was here at the start when Mr. Clive
He was here at the start when Mr. Clive
was sales representative for Northern manufacturers.
was sales representative for Northern manufacturers.
Do you like it?
- Very comfortable.
- Very comfortable.
- Mr. Clive supervised all the decorating.
- Mr. Clive supervised all the decorating.
He probably said that, too.
He probably said that, too.
- No, not that.
- For a start, I have picked this from the files for you.
- For a start, I have picked this from the files for you.
Articles of incorporation of our civil companies,
Articles of incorporation of our civil companies,
Articles of incorporation of our civil companies,
model contracts, lists of personnel and their assignments.
model contracts, lists of personnel and their assignments.
model contracts, lists of personnel and their assignments.
There's a great deal more to come
but I didn't mean to overwhelm you on your first day.
- I will have to find my bearings.
- I will have to find my bearings.
It's the efficiency that's a little overwhelming.
It's the efficiency that's a little overwhelming.
It's the efficiency that's a little overwhelming.
- With speed at any rate.
- With speed at any rate.
Mr. Clive's doing as well as the decorating.
Mr. Clive's doing as well as the decorating.
But there are compensations
But there are compensations
that make Clive Enterprises quite unusual.
that make Clive Enterprises quite unusual.
There's a free exchange of ideas here.
No politics, no secrets,
No politics, no secrets,
and you will find that most
of the people mind their own business.
of the people mind their own business.
What I mean is-
What I mean is-
- You mean I especially might resent it if they didn't.
- You mean I especially might resent it if they didn't.
- No, of course not.
- I'm aware you know I was in prison, Mrs. Leighton.
- I'm aware you know I was in prison, Mrs. Leighton.
So there's no need ever to try to be kind or tactful.
So there's no need ever to try to be kind or tactful.
- I'm sorry.
- I'm sorry.
If there's any other material you need
If there's any other material you need
or you have any questions just let me know.
or you have any questions just let me know.
- I appreciate your help.
- I appreciate your help.
Not at all.
- Mrs. Leighton?
- Mrs. Leighton?
That was rude of me a moment ago, I apologize.
That was rude of me a moment ago, I apologize.
- That's quite all right.
- That's quite all right.
Yes, come in!
Yes, come in!
Is that you, Jimmy?
- Yes.
- Yes.
All right, I'll be with you in a second.
- Take your time.
- Take your time.
- I'm sorry to keep you waiting.
- I'm sorry to keep you waiting.
Don't you think it's nice of the state
Don't you think it's nice of the state
to furnish me with private accommodations?
to furnish me with private accommodations?
It makes me feel like a Harley Street specialist.
It makes me feel like a Harley Street specialist.
Well, you look fine.
Well, take your coat off and sit down.
Now, where's that form of yours?
Now, where's that form of yours?
- How do you like the city, Doctor?
- How do you like the city, Doctor?
- Oh, I don't know.
Sometimes I like it and sometimes
I wish I were back at the institution.
I wish I were back at the institution.
Same question to you.
Same question to you.
- It's a nice place.
- Mm hm.
- Mm hm.
You don't have to be polite with me, you know?
You don't have to be polite with me, you know?
I'm not a member of the Chamber of Commerce.
Where the hell is that form of yours?
Where the hell is that form of yours?
- Well, according to the book when you can't find something
it's because you don't want to find it.
it's because you don't want to find it.
- Oh, very amusing.
- Oh, very amusing.
Ah, here we are.
- You know, you may be right.
If there's anything I loath it's fillin' out parole forms.
Now, James Fontaine, new name Fuller.
Now, James Fontaine, new name Fuller.
Released from the institution,
Released from the institution,
when was it, a day or two ago?
- Two, on the 21st.
- Two, on the 21st.
- Two, on the 21st.
All right.
Attitude of the parolee is good,
Attitude of the parolee is good,
and seems to be making satisfactory adjustment.
and seems to be making satisfactory adjustment.
and seems to be making satisfactory adjustment.
That's true isn't it?
- I suppose so.
- Meaning you aren't?
Meaning I suppose so.
- Hm.
- Hm.
Like to have a cigarette?
- No, thank you.
- Oh, I forget you don't like my Turkish.
- Oh, I forget you don't like my Turkish.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
How 'bout you light up, you light up while
How 'bout you light up, you light up while
I tell the parole board exactly what they like to hear.
I tell the parole board exactly what they like to hear.
It's all right, men you can light up if you want to.
It's all right, men you can light up if you want to.
It's all right, men you can light up if you want to.
Now, we'll meet here about three times a week,
Now, we'll meet here about three times a week,
and we'll talk.
and we'll talk.
Well, you'll do most of the talkin',
Well, you'll do most of the talkin',
and I'll tell you why.
and I'll tell you why.
This is called group therapy.
This is called group therapy.
That means that a lot of people get together
That means that a lot of people get together
and talk about themselves and each other.
and talk about themselves and each other.
They try to find out what makes them tick,
They try to find out what makes them tick,
They try to find out what makes them tick,
why they commit crimes for instance.
why they commit crimes for instance.
There's reasons that they do, you know?
There's reasons that they do, you know?
They're not just born that way.
They're not just born that way.
These reasons go way back.
These reasons go way back.
These reasons go way back.
We want to dig 'em out.
They go back to the time you were born,
They go back to the time you were born,
and then maybe, well, maybe you'll find out
and then maybe, well, maybe you'll find out
and then maybe, well, maybe you'll find out
what's steerin' you instead of the other way around.
what's steerin' you instead of the other way around.
It won't be easy for you to say some
of the things you're gonna have to say.
I won't push ya.
I won't push ya.
There's one thing I want to make clear.
There's one thing I want to make clear.
Whatever's said in this room stops right here.
Whatever's said in this room stops right here.
Whatever's said in this room stops right here.
If any of you feel that you can't keep
If any of you feel that you can't keep
the confidences of your fellow men,
the confidences of your fellow men,
you can leave right now.
you can leave right now.
Leave the room, that is.
I don't think you'll get much farther.
I don't think you'll get much farther.
Well, who wants to start?
Well, who wants to start?
Well, who wants to start?
Any questions?
There's no rush, there's plenty of time.
There's no rush, there's plenty of time.
- I don't see why the hell I should sit here.
- I don't see why the hell I should sit here.
That may be okay for you lags, but I don't even belong here.
That may be okay for you lags, but I don't even belong here.
That may be okay for you lags, but I don't even belong here.
- Who said so? - Oh, come off it Akers.
- Who said so? - Oh, come off it Akers.
- Look, I'm in here on a bum stare.
- Look, I'm in here on a bum stare.
It was all a fix I tell you, all a fix.
It was all a fix I tell you, all a fix.
- Supposin' you tell us about it, Akers.
- Supposin' you tell us about it, Akers.
Do you mind?
Do you mind?
Do you mind?
Do you mind?
Do you mind, James?
Do you mind, James?
Jimmy, do you mind?
- Oh, sorry.
- Oh, sorry.
- Your present address.
- Your present address.
Well, you are livin' someplace, I take it?
Well, you are livin' someplace, I take it?
- 428 Saint Marks Row.
- 428 Saint Marks Row.
- 428 Saint Marks Row.
- 428 Saint Marks Row.
Where were you?
- No place in particular.
- No place in particular.
- Mm hm.
- Your cigarettes still smell pretty awful.
- Your cigarettes still smell pretty awful.
Like dirty feet wasn't it?
Like dirty feet wasn't it?
- The day I said that I wanted to kill you.
- The day I said that I wanted to kill you.
- Well, that was the day I knew you were on your way.
- Well, that was the day I knew you were on your way.
- Well, that was the day I knew you were on your way.
All right, James, how's it goin'?
All right, James, how's it goin'?
- Fine, thanks to you.
- Fine, thanks to you.
Thanks to yourself.
- The job, I mean.
- Oh yes, the job.
- Oh yes, the job.
Well , how's it look?
Well , how's it look?
- It looks like you had to work pretty hard
- It looks like you had to work pretty hard
on a fella named Clive.
- Clive?
- Clive?
Oh, oh yes.
- Oh, come now, Doctor.
- Oh, come now, Doctor.
We must be direct and honest with our patients.
We must be direct and honest with our patients.
- All right.
- All right.
So, I talked to him.
He's a chap.
He's a chap.
He's got connections with the prison authorities.
He's got connections with the prison authorities.
He has jobs and he prides himself on his social conscience.
He has jobs and he prides himself on his social conscience.
He has jobs and he prides himself on his social conscience.
So, I thought I'd take him up on it.
So, I thought I'd take him up on it.
What do you think of him?
What do you think of him?
- Interesting.
- He's an ambitious type.
- He's an ambitious type.
He's beggin' for a heart attack,
He's beggin' for a heart attack,
but basically I think he's a pretty decent fellow.
but basically I think he's a pretty decent fellow.
Oh, so he took some persuadin'.
Wouldn't you in his place?
Wouldn't you in his place?
- Look, Doc, I just wanted to say thanks.
- Look, Doc, I just wanted to say thanks.
- Well, let him think me.
- Well, let him think me.
He's lucky to have ya.
Findin' these first few days a little rough?
Findin' these first few days a little rough?
- Well, knowing I was going to see you helped.
- Well, knowing I was going to see you helped.
- Mm hm.
You sleepin'?
You sleepin'?
Yes.
- You havin' any of those nightmares?
- You havin' any of those nightmares?
Now and then.
Now and then.
- And how often is now and then?
- And how often is now and then?
- I had one last week, the night before I came out.
- I had one last week, the night before I came out.
A small one just the other night.
A small one just the other night.
- How small is a small one?
- How small is a small one?
- Not king size.
Not about problem number one.
Not about problem number one.
- Well, there's no sense puttin' up with that is there?
- Well, there's no sense puttin' up with that is there?
You got to have your sleep.
Here.
Pills.
If you're not sleeping, don't be heroic.
If you're not sleeping, don't be heroic.
Take a pill, huh?
What's this place like you're livin' at?
What's this place like you're livin' at?
- I'm boarding with an elderly couple.
- I'm boarding with an elderly couple.
And how is it?
- I think it's going to be all right.
- I think it's going to be all right.
They're nice people.
They're nice people.
- Is there anything not all right about it?
- Is there anything not all right about it?
No.
- Then why the frown?
- Well, I had a scare for a moment this morning.
- Well, I had a scare for a moment this morning.
I thought the landlady's husband recognized me.
Well, what made you think that?
- My face looked familiar he said.
- My face looked familiar he said.
He could've seen my picture in the paper at the time.
He could've seen my picture in the paper at the time.
He didn't recognize you.
He didn't recognize you.
Look, James it was long, long time ago and images fade,
Look, James it was long, long time ago and images fade,
Look, James it was long, long time ago and images fade,
especially newspaper images.
especially newspaper images.
Is that the whole story?
Is that the whole story?
- Yes.
Except for moments like that all day long.
Except for moments like that all day long.
Well, that's only natural at first.
- And the world looks a lot different,
even a little frightening.
even a little frightening.
Well, naturally.
After three years, you can't expect
in two days to catch up with a life
in two days to catch up with a life
that's run way ahead of you.
- Then what's so good about coming out
and meeting the world head-on?
and meeting the world head-on?
Why not a few more days or a week
Why not a few more days or a week
in the privacy of my hotel room,
where I didn't have to see so many people?
where I didn't have to see so many people?
- You think that woulda helped?
- You think that woulda helped?
Well, I know but-
- Do you know?
- Do you know?
- Well, I have a few doubts but that's reasonable isn't it?
- Well, I have a few doubts but that's reasonable isn't it?
That depends.
That depends.
Do you have doubts about it happening again?
Do you have doubts about it happening again?
- Well, what have I got?
- Well, what have I got?
Your word it won't?
- I never said it won't.
- I never said it won't.
I said I'd be surprised if it did.
I said I'd be surprised if it did.
Now, I recommend to your release.
Now, I recommend to your release.
I never would've
recommended if you were- - All right,
recommended if you were- - All right,
you can stop needling me.
- I'm not needling you.
- I'm not needling you.
- Look, I've had enough of that in the institution.
Now, if I'm all right, why don't ya leave me alone?
- Here, let me warm up your coffee, hm?
- Here, let me warm up your coffee, hm?
It's just like old times, isn't it?
It's just like old times, isn't it?
- Yes.
- Yes.
I still wanna kill you now and then.
I still wanna kill you now and then.
It can't hurt.
- Well, why do I if I'm all right?
- Well, why do I if I'm all right?
- Well, James, let's say that you're convalescing.
- Well, James, let's say that you're convalescing.
You know, it takes time to be objective
about the methods and the people
about the methods and the people
that are trying to help you,
that are trying to help you,
but you just remember one thing,
that bein' out is part of the therapy, too.
that bein' out is part of the therapy, too.
- Mm.
- Mm.
And your coffee's worse than your cigarettes.
And your coffee's worse than your cigarettes.
Well, that's, that's all for me.
Well, that's, that's all for me.
- That's all for me, too.
- That's all for me, too.
Well, go on home.
Well, go on home.
- Next Friday, again?
- Same time.
- Same time.
Any evening you wanna talk just give me decent notice.
Any evening you wanna talk just give me decent notice.
- That's very kind of you, Doctor.
- That's very kind of you, Doctor.
- That's very kind of you, Doctor.
- That your homework?
- That your homework?
- Good weekend company I thought.
- Good weekend company I thought.
- Well, don't knock yourself out.
- Well, don't knock yourself out.
- Goodnight.
- Goodnight, Jimmy.
- Goodnight, Jimmy.
- Oh, shall I tell you something funny?
- Oh, shall I tell you something funny?
You can try.
You can try.
- That place I live,
do you know what I found on the wall near my bed?
do you know what I found on the wall near my bed?
do you know what I found on the wall near my bed?
- Can't imagine.
"Blue Boy."
"Blue Boy."
- You don't say.
- Funny?
- Funny?
Did you leave it there?
- Yes.
- Then it's funny.
- Then it's funny.
- Goodnight, Doctor.
- Goodnight, Doctor.
Come on, Fontaine.
Come on, Fontaine.
The earliest thing you remember as a child?
The earliest thing you remember as a child?
Oh, just say it.
It can't hurt.
- What are you afraid of?
- What are you afraid of?
- Don't just sit there, man.
- Come on, boy.
- Come on, boy.
Everybody else is talking.
What makes you so different?
What makes you so different?
- All right, hold it chaps.
Come on, Fontaine.
The earliest thing you remember.
The earliest thing you remember.
The earliest thing you remember.
Was it something nosy, Jimmy?
Why ya dirty little-
- Why ya dirty little-
- It was "Blue Boy," make something of that.
- It was "Blue Boy," make something of that.
What's "Blue Boy?"
What's "Blue Boy?"
It's a painting of a boy.
- Oh.
- You don't say?
- I've seen it.
It's a pretty boy with curls.
It's a pretty boy with curls.
Oh!
Oh!
- Hold it!
Hold it now, hold it!
Hold it now, hold it!
Where'd you see it?
Where'd you see it?
At home, naturally.
Who liked it?
Who liked it?
Well, my mother, I suppose.
Well, my mother, I suppose.
Did you like your mother, Jimmy?
Naturally.
What was she like?
Well, she was my mother.
What'd your father do?
What'd your father do?
He was a collector in an insurance house.
He was a collector in an insurance house.
Were you the only child?
No.
No.
How many others?
How many others?
- Five.
Were you the oldest or what?
Were you the oldest or what?
- The youngest.
- The youngest.
And the others,
how many boys, how many girls?
how many boys, how many girls?
What's the matter, Jim, can't you remember?
What's the matter, Jim, can't you remember?
All girls.
All girls.
Five girls, ai yi!
Five girls, ai yi!
- Don't need a way to go home.
- I have three, how good was that?
- All right, all right I said.
- All right, all right I said.
That makes you pretty special doesn't it?
That makes you pretty special doesn't it?
- What do you mean special?
Well, you were the youngest
Well, you were the youngest
and the only boy.
- What are you trying to make of that?
- What are you trying to make of that?
- Mama's boy. - Who says?
- Mama's boy. - Who says?
Mama's little "Blue Boy".
Mama's little "Blue Boy".
You still got your curls don't ya?
- I bet you have a blue suit.
- I bet you have a blue suit.
Yeah, you think you're smart don't ya?
All right, I said break it up now.
All right, I said break it up now.
Sit down now.
Sit down now.
- Good morning.
- Good morning.
- Good morning. - Morning.
- Good morning. - Morning.
- Well, did you sleep well?
- Very well, thank you.
- Very well, thank you.
- Come and sit down and I'll have
- Come and sit down and I'll have
your breakfast in a moment.
You'll start with porridge, of course?
You'll start with porridge, of course?
- Yes, thank you.
- And eggs, scrambled?
- And eggs, scrambled?
- Oh, that'll be fine.
- Mr. Fuller knows porridge is the way to start the day.
- Mr. Fuller knows porridge is the way to start the day.
- Yes, I know, Mother, but eggs every morning, too.
- Yes, I know, Mother, but eggs every morning, too.
- They're good for you.
- They're good for you.
Yes, but it's only-
- Ah, now I don't want
- Ah, now I don't want
to hear another word about it, Arnold.
to hear another word about it, Arnold.
- I haven't been as well as I might be.
- I haven't been as well as I might be.
Old leg wound acting up again.
Old leg wound acting up again.
First World War that was.
First World War that was.
You were in the last war I imagine?
You were in the last war I imagine?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- Infantry?
- Merchant Marine.
- Merchant Marine.
- Oh, well they did their job, too.
- There.
You'll be having all your meals with us today I imagine,
You'll be having all your meals with us today I imagine,
being Saturday and no work?
- Well, I did bring some work home with me.
- Well, I did bring some work home with me.
I will have lunch if I may.
I will have lunch if I may.
- Not supper?
- Not supper?
- Well, I wanted to see something of the city this evening.
- Well, I wanted to see something of the city this evening.
- Oh.
- Oh.
Oh well, if that's what you'd like.
Oh well, if that's what you'd like.
- It'd be nice if I could show you around a bit, hey?
- It'd be nice if I could show you around a bit, hey?
- But we know that's out of the question, dear.
- But we know that's out of the question, dear.
- But we know that's out of the question, dear.
Your eggs are getting cold, Arnold.
Yes?
Yes?
- Disturbing you?
- It's all right.
- It's all right.
- Mustn't overdo it, you know.
- Mustn't overdo it, you know.
My leg's rather bad today.
Oh, you don't mind?
No.
- I was wondering, the last war,
- I was wondering, the last war,
- I was wondering, the last war,
did you manage to get to Paris?
did you manage to get to Paris?
- Yes, once for about three weeks.
- Yes, once for about three weeks.
- 38 years since I was there.
- 38 years since I was there.
Most wonderful place I was ever in.
Most wonderful place I was ever in.
All the girls.
All the girls.
Did you ever go to the Folies?
Did you ever go to the Folies?
- No.
- No.
Arnold, where are you?
Arnold, where are you?
Are you bothering Mr. Fuller?
Are you bothering Mr. Fuller?
- I just looked in for a moment, Mother.
I'll be right down.
I'll be right down.
We'll drop 'round to the pub sometime you and I,
a few drinks and a- - Arnold!
a few drinks and a- - Arnold!
- And this takes you right up through the last quarter.
- And this takes you right up through the last quarter.
- And this takes you right up through the last quarter.
And that's about all of it I'm glad to say.
And that's about all of it I'm glad to say.
- So am I.
- You have been through a tremendous amount of material.
- You have been through a tremendous amount of material.
When you're ready for Mr. Clive
would you just let me know a day or so ahead?
- Has he asked?
- Has he asked?
- Yes, but not meaning to hurry you.
There's no need to say 'til you're certain.
There's no need to say 'til you're certain.
There's no need to say 'til you're certain.
Goodnight.
- Goodnight.
- No, my mother was afraid of men, really.
- No, my mother was afraid of men, really.
I mean of, well, how rough they can be.
I mean of, well, how rough they can be.
I mean of, well, how rough they can be.
It's quite true, you know?
You heard me tell Arnold to be back by nine.
You heard me tell Arnold to be back by nine.
Oh, look.
Here I am gnashing away about my problems,
and you have troubles of your own no doubt.
and you have troubles of your own no doubt.
You will tell me about them sometime won't you?
You will tell me about them sometime won't you?
- Of course, Mrs. Cartwright but if you'll excuse me now,
- Of course, Mrs. Cartwright but if you'll excuse me now,
- Of course, Mrs. Cartwright but if you'll excuse me now,
I have some reading to do before going to bed.
I have some reading to do before going to bed.
- Mr. Fuller?
- Yes?
- I wish you'd call me Gertrude.
- If you call me Jim.
- If you call me Jim.
- Oh.
- Oh.
- Goodnight.
Arnold, you've been at the pub
Arnold, you've been at the pub
and you're drunk.
I only had one lager.
I can smell half a dozen.
I can smell half a dozen.
You made me a solemn promise.
You made me a solemn promise.
Can't a man my age have just one drink?
Can't a man my age have just one drink?
Can't a man my age have just one drink?
I won't have it, Arnold.
Go up to your room.
Go up to your room.
Well, I'm sorry, Mother but-
- Well, I'm sorry, Mother but-
- Stop it.
What will Mr. Fuller think?
- Fine example you set for your son,
- Fine example you set for your son,
sneakin' out with your dreadful friends,
sneakin' out with your dreadful friends,
comin' home reelin' drunk.
comin' home reelin' drunk.
Don't move!
Don't move!
You sit right there and listen to me 'til I've finished.
You sit right there and listen to me 'til I've finished.
- Papa, let's fight!
- Hey? - Come on, Papa.
- Hey? - Come on, Papa.
Please!
Please!
Stop!
- You hit him where?
You heard me.
You heard me.
- Why there?
- How do I know?
- How do I know?
It was an accident.
- There ain't no accidents.
- There ain't no accidents.
That right, Doc?
Right.
Right.
- Are you saying I purposely hit him there?
- Are you saying I purposely hit him there?
- You hated his guts.
- I loved him.
That spineless clot?
- I did.
- But "Little Boy Blue" loved mama more.
- But "Little Boy Blue" loved mama more.
Fix papa for good and you've got mama.
Fix papa for good and you've got mama.
- You're a louse, Akers!
- You're a louse, Akers!
He's got somethin' there, Jim.
- He's got a mind like a sewer.
- He's got a mind like a sewer.
Then why did you fight at all?
- I didn't, I was just playin'.
- I didn't, I was just playin'.
Is that all?
- I don't know.
- I don't know.
- Perhaps to make Papa look more like a man.
- Perhaps to make Papa look more like a man.
- What do you mean look like a man?
- What do you mean look like a man?
He was.
He was.
- Was he?
Or did your mother rob him of his manhood?
Or did your mother rob him of his manhood?
And weren't you afraid that she'd rob you of yours, too?
And weren't you afraid that she'd rob you of yours, too?
- And that's why I hit him?
I knew that at the age of five, huh?
I knew that at the age of five, huh?
Your instincts would've.
- My subconscious?
- Yes. - Rubbish.
Why?
Why?
- How can you say I was fighting for my manhood
- How can you say I was fighting for my manhood
and at the same time say what Akers said?
- That you wanted your mother?
- That you wanted your mother?
Yes.
- Well, both things could be true.
- Well, both things could be true.
For a child of five it's a big dilemma.
For a child of five it's a big dilemma.
Besides your mother had a problem.
Yes.
Yes.
- While taking away your manhood,
- While taking away your manhood,
she wanted you to have it at the same time for her.
she wanted you to have it at the same time for her.
- Your mind's as rotten as Akers.
- Your mind's as rotten as Akers.
- Let's go over it again, Jim.
- I won't go over it again and get
- I won't go over it again and get
that lousy cigarette out of my face.
that lousy cigarette out of my face.
It smells like dirty feet!
It smells like dirty feet!
I swear, Mother, it was no more than one glass.
I swear, Mother, it was no more than one glass.
I swear, Mother, it was no more than one glass.
Shh!
Stop that whining.
Stop that whining.
Well-
- Aren't you ashamed?
Aren't you ashamed?
- In short, you seem to think that our organization
- In short, you seem to think that our organization
is pretty messy, hm?
- Well, all right, messy.
- Well, all right, messy.
There are at least 10 business activities going on here,
There are at least 10 business activities going on here,
most of them unrelated to one another.
- Have you seen our latest statement of earnings, Fuller?
- Have you seen our latest statement of earnings, Fuller?
- Yes.
- Yes.
Impressive, wouldn't you say?
Impressive, wouldn't you say?
- Yes.
- Achieved by the system we have now
- Achieved by the system we have now
with soul authority of Mr. Clive
with soul authority of Mr. Clive
and decisions carried out by me.
and decisions carried out by me.
- I don't question Mr. Clive's competence or yours, I-
- I don't question Mr. Clive's competence or yours, I-
- Oh, but you do.
You don't think for instance,
You don't think for instance,
that we can take over and run
a small plastics factory at this time.
a small plastics factory at this time.
- I said you shouldn't with the present staff.
- I said you shouldn't with the present staff.
- The present staff can handle
- The present staff can handle
it without working up an extra ounce of sweat.
it without working up an extra ounce of sweat.
- Yes, but gradually your personnel
- Yes, but gradually your personnel
must become less and less specialized
and every activity less competently carried out.
and every activity less competently carried out.
- Great deal of nonsense I've ever heard.
- Great deal of nonsense I've ever heard.
- Roy.
- An enormously successful operation
- An enormously successful operation
and business school expert walks in here
and business school expert walks in here
to make an important job for himself-
to make an important job for himself-
- Roy, please!
Now, Fuller, are you prepared to go
Now, Fuller, are you prepared to go
to work on the sort of plan you suggest?
to work on the sort of plan you suggest?
Well, yes.
- And plastic deal meanwhile?
- And plastic deal meanwhile?
- I'll decide that.
Now, are you prepared to do this, Fuller?
Now, are you prepared to do this, Fuller?
- As Mr. Milne says, this is an important job.
- As Mr. Milne says, this is an important job.
- As Mr. Milne says, this is an important job.
I'd have to learn a great deal more about these companies.
I'd have to learn a great deal more about these companies.
Above all, I'd have to study the staff,
Above all, I'd have to study the staff,
their training and abilities.
their training and abilities.
I'll need time.
- Of course.
- Of course.
You'll be the sole judge with the time you need.
You'll be the sole judge with the time you need.
- Then I'd like to try it.
- Then I'd like to try it.
- Thanks, Fuller.
Now, that's all for the moment I believe.
Now, that's all for the moment I believe.
Wait, a minute, Roy.
Wait, a minute, Roy.
- Excuse me.
These are some notes of Mr. Clive's
These are some notes of Mr. Clive's
on certain of the personnel.
on certain of the personnel.
He thought you might find them useful.
- Hm.
- Just what did you do to you this morning?
- Just what did you do to you this morning?
- Why?
- Why?
- May I have one of your cigarettes?
- May I have one of your cigarettes?
- Yes.
Now Mrs. Leighton, there was a chap in prison
Now Mrs. Leighton, there was a chap in prison
who used to sidle up to the cellmates and say,
who used to sidle up to the cellmates and say,
"The parole board has been discussing you,"
"The parole board has been discussing you,"
and he'd lie down and refuse to say another word.
and he'd lie down and refuse to say another word.
Is he still alive?
- I doubt it.
- I doubt it.
- It's good news, obviously.
- It's good news, obviously.
- Why is that?
- Simply he came into my office
just after you'd left and said,
just after you'd left and said,
"Interesting fellow that Fuller."
"Interesting fellow that Fuller."
You're going to work on a plan
You're going to work on a plan
for changes around here I'm told?
for changes around here I'm told?
Yes.
- If I may make a suggestion, Mr. Fuller,
- If I may make a suggestion, Mr. Fuller,
there's no need to feel pressure.
there's no need to feel pressure.
Not any longer.
Not any longer.
You mind?
- No, of course not.
- For one thing I've seen your dashing out
for a sandwich at noon and dashing back.
for a sandwich at noon and dashing back.
for a sandwich at noon and dashing back.
Why not celebrate with a proper lunch for once?
Why not celebrate with a proper lunch for once?
An executive lunch?
There's The Cavalier nearby.
Very good pub.
Very good pub.
That's where I usually go.
That's where I usually go.
Would you like to come along?
Would you like to come along?
- Why, yes.
- Why, yes.
Thank you.
- All right.
- All right.
Meet you in the reception room in half an hour.
- Fine.
- Fine.
- You say Milne opposed the idea rather strongly?
- You say Milne opposed the idea rather strongly?
How strongly?
How strongly?
- Well he was emphatic, let's say.
- Well he was emphatic, let's say.
- Mm hm.
- Mm hm.
You don't see much disturbed by it all.
You don't see much disturbed by it all.
- Right now I'm experiencing that executive feeling.
- Right now I'm experiencing that executive feeling.
- Right now I'm experiencing that executive feeling.
I believe the slogan is "Work hard, relax hard."
I believe the slogan is "Work hard, relax hard."
Yes.
Mr. Clive has several of those.
They sound a little pompous, I know.
They sound a little pompous, I know.
Actually, he's very bright.
Actually, he's very bright.
And a very warm and generous man.
And a very warm and generous man.
- I believe that.
- You'd imagine he had no time
- You'd imagine he had no time
for anything outside his work,
yet I have known him to take time
yet I have known him to take time
for a feeling or a principle.
It's one thing to boast about feelings
It's one thing to boast about feelings
and quite another to do something about it.
and quite another to do something about it.
- Did you think you had to defend him to me?
- Did you think you had to defend him to me?
No, I didn't.
No, I didn't.
- I am grateful to them if that's
what you're meant to remind me of.
- I meant nothing of the sort.
- I meant nothing of the sort.
- As for feelings, was it a feeling like Clive's
- As for feelings, was it a feeling like Clive's
that made you suggest lunch?
that made you suggest lunch?
Part of rehabilitation program?
- Will you stop?
- Is there something else, Sir?
- No, thank you.
Just coffee for me.
Just coffee for me.
- For me, too.
I'm a fool.
Will you accept that as an apology?
- If you'll accept a few remarks first.
- If you'll accept a few remarks first.
My husband was a lawyer.
My husband was a lawyer.
He used to tell me about men in prison.
He used to tell me about men in prison.
They were all sensitive,
They were all sensitive,
but they didn't go out of their way to be rude.
but they didn't go out of their way to be rude.
When I say those things about Mr. Clive,
When I say those things about Mr. Clive,
I was thinking of myself, if you want to know,
I was thinking of myself, if you want to know,
and of my own gratitude for all he did
and of my own gratitude for all he did
for me three years ago when my husband died.
for me three years ago when my husband died.
Do you understand now?
Do you understand now?
- I'm very sorry.
- Inez, can you get me Mrs. Leighton, please?
- Inez, can you get me Mrs. Leighton, please?
- Mrs. Leighton has just walked through,
- Mrs. Leighton has just walked through,
but I'll try to find her for you, Mr. Fuller.
but I'll try to find her for you, Mr. Fuller.
- No, nevermind.
- No, nevermind.
I'll try again later.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Answer Akers question, Jim.
I didn't hear it.
I didn't hear it.
Answer Aker's question, Jim.
I'll ask again, Sonny.
I'll ask again, Sonny.
Did you end up- - None of your business!
Did you end up- - None of your business!
You're just naturally filthy.
Filthy he calls it.
Tell him, Sonny.
All right, now quiet, now.
All right, now quiet, now.
Let me put it another way, Jim.
Let me put it another way, Jim.
Did you ever love a woman?
Did you ever love a woman?
- We don't mean different to the pictures, man.
- We don't mean different to the pictures, man.
- Of course he wouldn't, his Mommy wouldn't let him.
- Hold it.
- Hold it.
Suppose I said I did.
- Did what?
Love the woman!
Love the woman!
- Glory be.
Would he be knowin' if he did or not?
Would he be knowin' if he did or not?
- Quiet now.
Where was that, Jim?
Where was that, Jim?
- During the war in Paris.
- During the war in Paris.
Oh, that was the best time of all.
Oh, that was the best time of all.
What are you doing, Akers?
What are you doing, Akers?
Getting yourself a cheap thrill?
Right, and who was she?
Right, and who was she?
An American girl named Ellen.
An American girl named Ellen.
- Well, where'd you meet her?
- Well, where'd you meet her?
- At the Red Cross Club.
She worked there.
She worked there.
- What happened?
- Well, come on, Sonny.
- Well, come on, Sonny.
You said you made it with this chick.
You said you made it with this chick.
- I did.
- I did.
- And was she a pickup or was she something more?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
How long did you know her?
Two, three weeks, why?
Two, three weeks, why?
Well, I just meant,
was she a nice girl this, Ellen?
was she a nice girl this, Ellen?
Yes.
You thought you were in love with her?
You thought you were in love with her?
I suppose so, yes.
Well, did ya or didn't ya?
Well, did ya or didn't ya?
I said I did!
What was she like?
What was she like?
What do you want me to do, draw you dirty pictures?
What do you want me to do, draw you dirty pictures?
Yes, Sonny, could you do a little of that?
You better have Akers shut up, McNally.
You better have Akers shut up, McNally.
- The rule is we answer here, Jim.
- The rule is we answer here, Jim.
- Come on, tell us "Blue Boy."
- Come on, tell us "Blue Boy."
Did ya like her?
- He wants to go back to his cell
- He wants to go back to his cell
and think about it all night.
and think about it all night.
No, I didn't. - No?
What happened?
What happened?
Well, why not, Jimmy boy?
Come on, tell us.
Come on, tell us.
Well, she was a nymphomaniac.
A what?
A what?
Sex crazy.
Do you understand that?
What makes you think so?
What makes you think so?
Yeah, how would you know?
Fontaine, you loved this girl you said?
Fontaine, you loved this girl you said?
I thought so.
I thought so.
Did she love you?
What if she did?
What if she did?
Don't you know?
Don't you know?
Two people who care about each other,
they got a right to ask a lot of each other.
they got a right to ask a lot of each other.
What happened?
What happened?
Well, I couldn't stand her.
Well, I couldn't stand her.
I walked out on her.
What did she say?
What did she say?
She didn't say anything.
No?
No?
You didn't give her a chance.
Chance?
Chance?
She didn't want a chance in the first place.
Is that his trouble, Doc?
Is that his trouble, Doc?
You didn't want a chance, huh?
Oh!
- Oh, hello.
Having a bit of a nap?
Having a bit of a nap?
- No.
- No.
- Now, now, Fuller, we had our little differences
- Now, now, Fuller, we had our little differences
in the chief's office but that's
a matter of business, isn't it?
a matter of business, isn't it?
- Yes, of course.
- Yes, of course.
- Matter of fact, I admired the way he stuck to your guns.
- Matter of fact, I admired the way he stuck to your guns.
- Matter of fact, I admired the way he stuck to your guns.
There may be a certain merit in this proposal of yours.
There may be a certain merit in this proposal of yours.
Now, I told the chief as to the matter of the personnel,
Now, I told the chief as to the matter of the personnel,
I'd be glad to give you all the information you need,
I'd be glad to give you all the information you need,
I'd be glad to give you all the information you need,
work along with you so to speak.
work along with you so to speak.
- Thanks, Milne.
- Not at all.
It's all for the cause isn't it?
To start with, I'll get up a set of notes,
let you have them as soon as possible.
let you have them as soon as possible.
- Fine.
- Fine.
- Well,
- Well,
Goodnight, Fuller.
Goodnight.
Goodnight.
- No hard feelings I hope?
- No hard feelings I hope?
- No hard feelings.
- Seriously, we can use a man
- Seriously, we can use a man
with your training around here.
with your training around here.
We can indeed.
We can indeed.
- Inez, Mrs. Leighton, please.
Yes, Mr. Fuller.
Hello?
- Hello, it's Jim Fuller.
- Hello, it's Jim Fuller.
But if you're busy I can-
- No, not terribly.
- I just wanted to apologize again.
- I just wanted to apologize again.
- That isn't necessary.
Well, aside from that, I had a nice lunch.
Well, aside from that, I had a nice lunch.
- I'm glad.
- I'm glad.
- Perhaps we can again, sometime.
- Perhaps we can again, sometime.
- Yes.
- Well, back to work I guess.
- Well, back to work I guess.
Yes, thanks for calling.
Yes, thanks for calling.
- Well, go on with your story.
- There's nothing more to tell.
I'm trying to make myself stand there for a full minute.
I'm trying to make myself stand there for a full minute.
I'm trying to make myself stand there for a full minute.
I could only manage a few seconds.
I could only manage a few seconds.
- So, why'd you stand there and talk to yourself?
- So, why'd you stand there and talk to yourself?
- I wanted to prove to myself that I could.
- I wanted to prove to myself that I could.
I see, and if you'd been an alcoholic,
I see, and if you'd been an alcoholic,
would you consider it smart to keep
a case of whiskey in the room?
- Is that a very good analogy?
- Is that a very good analogy?
- Well, it's not very good
but there's certain basic similarities, that's all.
but there's certain basic similarities, that's all.
- The fact is the moment I'm faced with a problem-
- The fact is the moment I'm faced with a problem-
- Were ya or did you stand there and imagine a problem?
- Were ya or did you stand there and imagine a problem?
- It's still a problem.
- How?
- How?
Three years ago you probably wouldn't have walked away.
Three years ago you probably wouldn't have walked away.
All right, James.
All right, James.
What's really botherin' ya?
What's really botherin' ya?
- What I've told you.
- How's the job?
- How's the job?
Fine.
- Really?
- Really?
- Clive thinks I'm an interesting fellow.
- Clive thinks I'm an interesting fellow.
- Well, well.
- Well, well.
Well, you give him time.
Is that what he said?
Is that what he said?
Not to me, Mrs. Leighton.
Not to me, Mrs. Leighton.
- She's your secretary, isn't she?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- I met her, she's a pretty nice person.
- I met her, she's a pretty nice person.
The people treatin' you all right where you live?
The people treatin' you all right where you live?
Couldn't be better.
- Mm hm.
You're sleepin'?
Yes.
- And you put this "Blue Boy" thing
in its proper place I hope?
- Yes.
- Yes.
It's made me remember a bit, that's all.
And you had no more to remember?
- Yes, Doctor.
- Well, give me a sample.
- Well, give me a sample.
Of what?
Of what?
- Of the stuff that's comin' back.
- Well, it's pretty pointless.
- Well, it's pretty pointless.
Anyway.
Anyway.
- Well, I thought of Ellen yesterday afternoon.
- Well, I thought of Ellen yesterday afternoon.
- Ellen?
The girl I knew in Paris.
The girl I knew in Paris.
- Oh, yes.
- Oh, yes.
Well, what about her?
Well, what about her?
- Nothing.
I just thought of her.
And what made ya-
Dr. McNally.
- No, Hazel.
- No, Hazel.
I told you I had a patient at this hour.
I told you I had a patient at this hour.
Yes, but I specifically asked you never to call when-
Yes, but I specifically asked you never to call when-
Look, darling, I told ya I couldn't
Look, darling, I told ya I couldn't
meet you there before 10.
meet you there before 10.
Well, I'm sorry if I gave you that impression but I-
Well, I'm sorry if I gave you that impression but I-
Hello?
Hazel?
Hazel?
You think you got a problem, huh?
You think you got a problem, huh?
But when a man, particularly a doctor waits 'til
But when a man, particularly a doctor waits 'til
my age to consider marriage, well...
my age to consider marriage, well...
I'm sorry, James.
It's your hour, not mine.
It's your hour, not mine.
Now, what I meant was what started you thinkin' of Ellen?
Now, what I meant was what started you thinkin' of Ellen?
Now, what I meant was what started you thinkin' of Ellen?
- Nothing in particular.
- And what did you recall exactly?
- And what did you recall exactly?
- That she wasn't a nymphomaniac,
she was just a normal woman making demands
she was just a normal woman making demands
on me that I wasn't ready to meet.
on me that I wasn't ready to meet.
- Normal demands you couldn't meet.
- Normal demands you couldn't meet.
- All right, Doctor, we know.
- All right, Doctor, we know.
- Is that all?
- Well, and how poisonous Akers was that day.
- Well, and how poisonous Akers was that day.
- Well, and how poisonous Akers was that day.
- That all?
- Doctor, do you mind?
That's all.
- So you and Clive are really hittin' it off?
- So you and Clive are really hittin' it off?
- We had a battle yesterday.
- We had a battle yesterday.
I had to stand my ground.
- And Mrs. Leighton told you that he thought
- And Mrs. Leighton told you that he thought
that you were a pretty interesting fella?
that you were a pretty interesting fella?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- That's rather chummy.
- What's rather chummy?
- What's rather chummy?
- Well, these little confidences from the front office.
- Are you suggesting something?
- Are you suggesting something?
- Oh, not really.
- Oh, not really.
I just think it's very nice.
I just think it's very nice.
- Let's not be coy, Doctor.
It so happens she and I have worked together
It so happens she and I have worked together
this past week and I find it quite natural.
this past week and I find it quite natural.
- Oh, so do I.
- Oh, so do I.
I'd find it quite natural
if you had lunch together once or twice.
if you had lunch together once or twice.
Oh.
Oh.
You did?
- As a matter of fact, we did once,
- As a matter of fact, we did once,
yesterday for the first time.
yesterday for the first time.
- Oh, McNally, you're a genius.
- Oh, McNally, you're a genius.
It was a lousy lunch if that helps you any.
It was a lousy lunch if that helps you any.
We had a brawl.
We had a brawl.
- What about?
- I was being sensitive while she
- I was being sensitive while she
was being nothing but friendly.
was being nothing but friendly.
- You patched it up?
- More or less, I don't know.
- More or less, I don't know.
And you went back to work?
- Naturally.
- Naturally.
- And you thought of Ellen?
- And you thought of Ellen?
It was in the afternoon, I believe you said.
It was in the afternoon, I believe you said.
- Well, that's silly.
I don't really know Mrs. Leighton.
I don't really know Mrs. Leighton.
But you'd like to.
But you'd like to.
- I don't have any idea.
- You don't have to have.
Our instincts run miles ahead of our ideas.
Our instincts run miles ahead of our ideas.
Any mystery about that?
- So the first normal, attractive woman I meet-
- So the first normal, attractive woman I meet-
- So the first normal, attractive woman I meet-
- Like Ellen.
- All right, like Ellen.
- All right, like Ellen.
The first after three years of raking up my life
The first after three years of raking up my life
and my fear is am I really well now?
Or will I run away again?
I'm afraid to face the question.
I'm afraid to face the question.
I refuse to see any connection with Ellen, why?
I refuse to see any connection with Ellen, why?
Because I'm still that unsure of myself?
Because I'm still that unsure of myself?
- Well, who's sure of anything?
- Well, that's no answer.
- We have to find our own, don't we?
- We have to find our own, don't we?
- Yes, Doctor and being out applying
- Yes, Doctor and being out applying
what we know is a part of the cure, huh?
what we know is a part of the cure, huh?
what we know is a part of the cure, huh?
We know what happens to buried fears don't we?
They can lead you to pick a fight
They can lead you to pick a fight
with someone like Mrs. Leighton
with someone like Mrs. Leighton
just to make sure that you never have
just to make sure that you never have
to face the test of a normal woman.
to face the test of a normal woman.
Buried stuff like that can cause an incident
Buried stuff like that can cause an incident
like at the playground this morning.
like at the playground this morning.
Is that right, Doctor?
- Very good.
- Very good.
- Let's call it a night, shall we?
- Let's call it a night, shall we?
- It's all right with me.
- It's all right with me.
One point you missed, Doctor.
One point you missed, Doctor.
Yes?
- The woman I happen to find attractive is married.
- Oh.
- Safe, you see?
- Good.
- Good.
- Except she isn't.
Her husband's dead.
Her husband's dead.
- And you found this out at lunch?
- And you found this out at lunch?
Yes.
- Well, that's very amusing in a ghoulish sort of a way.
- Well, that's very amusing in a ghoulish sort of a way.
- Well, that's very amusing in a ghoulish sort of a way.
What was your first reaction?
- I don't know.
- Well, were you pleased, were you scared, what?
- Well, were you pleased, were you scared, what?
- Both.
- You want to see her again?
- You want to see her again?
- I don't think she wants to see me.
- I don't think she wants to see me.
- That's not what I asked you.
- Yes, I do.
Satisfied?
Delighted.
Delighted.
Delighted.
That's Hazel.
You better get out of here.
I don't want this phone call to discourage you.
I don't want this phone call to discourage you.
Yes, my darlin'.
Yes, my darlin'.
Yes, darlin'.
Yes, darlin'.
15 minutes!
15 minutes!
15 minutes!
- Morning, Inez.
- Good morning, Mr. Fuller.
- Good morning, Mr. Fuller.
- Good morning. - Morning.
- Come in.
- Come in.
Good morning.
- Good morning.
- I was beginning to think you were avoiding me.
- I was beginning to think you were avoiding me.
- Well, when I talked to you on the phone the other day,
- Well, when I talked to you on the phone the other day,
you were so formal sounding, I...
you were so formal sounding, I...
- I'm sorry, I thought you felt you had to be polite.
- Well, I meant what I said.
- Well, we have cleared that up.
- Well, we have cleared that up.
- Well, Ruth, can I see you sometime?
- Well, Ruth, can I see you sometime?
After work I mean.
After work I mean.
- Yes, of course.
- Yes, of course.
- Are you free this evening?
- Are you free this evening?
- Yes, I am.
- I'll call for you around eight.
- I'll call for you around eight.
- Well, I could pick you up.
- Well, I could pick you up.
We might as well use my car,
We might as well use my car,
except I don't know where you live.
except I don't know where you live.
- Well, you might have trouble finding it.
- Well, you might have trouble finding it.
Let's say outside the post office.
Let's say outside the post office.
- All right, at eight.
- All right, at eight.
- That's okay.
- Certainly, Monsieur.
- Certainly, Monsieur.
Bonne soiree, Monsieur.
Bonne soiree, Madame.
Thank you.
- Thank you. - Thank you, Sir.
- Thank you. - Thank you, Sir.
- Let's have one cigarette where it's nice and quiet.
- Let's have one cigarette where it's nice and quiet.
- Let's have one cigarette where it's nice and quiet.
What did you think of our French restaurant?
What did you think of our French restaurant?
- Oh, it's very English.
- I smoke too much.
No willpower.
You too? - Mm.
I smoke anything with tobacco except Turkish.
I smoke anything with tobacco except Turkish.
I smoke anything with tobacco except Turkish.
- If you come to like England, you even like the rain.
- If you come to like England, you even like the rain.
Is that all?
Is that all?
- Just a little.
- Were you ever in Switzerland?
- No.
- I was born in Lucerne.
I met Arthur there.
He was with the British Consolute.
He was with the British Consolute.
What I meant was, when we married
What I meant was, when we married
and he brought me home to England,
and he brought me home to England,
he was so proud of this country.
he was so proud of this country.
He was even proud of the rain.
He was even proud of the rain.
- How long ago was that?
- Nearly 12 years.
- Nearly 12 years.
Mr. Clive was one of his first clients.
Mr. Clive was one of his first clients.
That is, when Arthur set up his law practice.
That is, when Arthur set up his law practice.
He would have had a wonderful career.
He would have had a wonderful career.
I better not get off on that.
- Tell me about him.
- Tell me about him.
- There isn't much to tell.
- There isn't much to tell.
He was a fine man.
Understanding, sweet.
Understanding, sweet.
Irritable only now and then.
- Were you happy?
- Were you happy?
- Yes.
Years of nice, warm happiness.
Years of nice, warm happiness.
I didn't know how nice 'til they were gone.
I didn't know how nice 'til they were gone.
You see, he died in his office.
No warning, nothing.
His heart stopped and he was dead.
His heart stopped and he was dead.
I remember when, when he left that morning,
I remember when, when he left that morning,
I leaned out of the window and called to him,
I leaned out of the window and called to him,
something about bringing home some wine.
something about bringing home some wine.
We were having company.
We were having company.
Strange when lives are cut off like that.
Strange when lives are cut off like that.
Strange when lives are cut off like that.
It isn't only the one dying, the other one dies, too.
It isn't only the one dying, the other one dies, too.
I died the minute that phone call came.
I died the minute that phone call came.
For a long time I stayed that way.
For a long time I stayed that way.
I was completely destroyed.
I was completely destroyed.
Just wanted to be a vegetable.
If it hadn't been for Janie and did the demands she made,
If it hadn't been for Janie and did the demands she made,
If it hadn't been for Janie and did the demands she made,
I would have been.
Children are amazing.
No time for mourning, just living.
No time for mourning, just living.
No time for mourning, just living.
It has stopped.
Let's walk a little.
Would you like to?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- Those painful memories of mine
have stirred up a few of your own haven't they?
have stirred up a few of your own haven't they?
- A few.
- A few.
- Jim, I had no intention of doing that.
- Jim, I had no intention of doing that.
- It's all right.
- It's all right.
But you wondered about mine though, haven't you?
But you wondered about mine though, haven't you?
- I can't deny it.
- I can't deny it.
- I know Clive didn't tell you.
- I know Clive didn't tell you.
- Only that he was certain that it was all in the past.
- Only that he was certain that it was all in the past.
- And that was good enough?
- And that was good enough?
- It was good enough, yes.
- It was good enough, yes.
Please, don't tell me now.
Please, don't tell me now.
Not until it's in the past for you.
Not until it's in the past for you.
Don't you see, it couldn't matter for the moment.
Don't you see, it couldn't matter for the moment.
You know, this has been the nicest evening
You know, this has been the nicest evening
in a long time and that's
in a long time and that's
the only thing that does matter now.
the only thing that does matter now.
Hm, isn't that true?
Hm, isn't that true?
We'll ought to start home, hm?
We'll ought to start home, hm?
Well, thank you, Jim.
Well, thank you, Jim.
Well, thank you, Jim.
- When will I see you again?
- When will I see you again?
- Will you come to the house next time?
- Will you come to the house next time?
For one thing, I don't want to scramble
For one thing, I don't want to scramble
for a sitter for Janie.
for a sitter for Janie.
I sent her to my neighbor tonight.
Margaret has two girls.
Margaret has two girls.
Janie loves spending the night there.
Janie loves spending the night there.
How 'bout Friday?
How 'bout Friday?
She has no school the next day, for dinner I mean.
She has no school the next day, for dinner I mean.
You can't?
You can't?
- Well, yes.
- Well, yes.
Friday will be fine.
- Fine.
- Fine.
Goodnight, Jim.
- Goodnight.
No!
Your crime is despicable.
Your crime is despicable.
No!
- A sin, a cardinal sin.
- A sin, a cardinal sin.
- I couldn't help it.
- Unspeakably vile.
- Unspeakably vile.
- Unspeakably vile.
- I didn't want to.
Please believe me.
Please believe me.
Jim?
Jim?
- Please!
Jim, wake up.
Jim, wake up.
Poor boy.
Poor boy.
You've been having a nightmare.
You've been having a nightmare.
- I'm sorry.
- Can I get you anything, Jim?
- No, I'm all right.
- Oh. - I'll be fine.
- Oh. - I'll be fine.
- What was it?
- What was it?
Tell me about it.
Tell me about it.
Was it to do with the war?
Was it to do with the war?
- I don't remember.
- I don't remember.
- You can tell me, you know.
- You can tell me, you know.
- I don't remember.
- Well try and go to sleep now.
- Well try and go to sleep now.
And I'll sit here quietly beside you until-
And I'll sit here quietly beside you until-
And I'll sit here quietly beside you until-
- Please, I'm all right.
- Please, I'm all right.
I'm fine, now.
You don't have to wait up.
I'll be all right.
- Oh, Jim.
- Oh, Jim.
Goodnight, dear.
- Goodnight, Gertrude.
- Goodnight, Gertrude.
- Jim, are you clear so far?
- Jim, are you clear so far?
You were sick when you knew Ellen,
you had been sick for a long time.
you had been sick for a long time.
you had been sick for a long time.
And after the war, when you grew older,
And after the war, when you grew older,
that sickness became worse,
that sickness became worse,
and because you had a normal, natural drive
and because you had a normal, natural drive
to find a woman you could live with,
then because that drive you had within you became distorted,
then because that drive you had within you became distorted,
then because that drive you had within you became distorted,
adult women weren't acceptable.
adult women weren't acceptable.
They made demands.
They became a threat to you.
They became a threat to you.
You were in terror.
You were in terror.
What could happen?
Then, when you quit your job you began to drift.
Then, when you quit your job you began to drift.
You were too restless to work.
You were too restless to work.
You were too restless to work.
You were looking for something.
You were looking for something.
Do you understand, Jim?
Do you understand, Jim?
Now, whether you know it or not,
Now, whether you know it or not,
you were looking for an answer to your physical problem.
you were looking for an answer to your physical problem.
you were looking for an answer to your physical problem.
You began looking for younger and younger girls,
You began looking for younger and younger girls,
girls still too young to have experience,
girls still too young to have experience,
who wouldn't challenge you.
What I'm trying to point out is Jim,
What I'm trying to point out is Jim,
that finally you became very, very sick.
that finally you became very, very sick.
And what you eventually did was a symptom of your illness,
And what you eventually did was a symptom of your illness,
And what you eventually did was a symptom of your illness,
nothing more and nothing less.
nothing more and nothing less.
nothing more and nothing less.
Now, you didn't happen to pass that playground.
Now, you didn't happen to pass that playground.
It was inevitable.
That's what you were lookin' for.
That's what you were lookin' for.
That's why you came back time after time.
That's why you came back time after time.
You didn't tell yourself why, you didn't know.
You didn't tell yourself why, you didn't know.
All you knew was a great pressure somewhere inside
All you knew was a great pressure somewhere inside
you had begun to loosen, to relax.
you had begun to loosen, to relax.
you had begun to loosen, to relax.
What did you say to them, Jim?
I don't remember.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Please, Cole.
Please, Cole.
- And you started pickin' 'em up after school,
buyin' them sweets and things,
buyin' them sweets and things,
you mean you had no idea- - No, Akers!
you mean you had no idea- - No, Akers!
- Day after day, three days in a row and you had no idea?
- Day after day, three days in a row and you had no idea?
- You got rid of the other one, is that it?
- You got rid of the other one, is that it?
No, I didn't.
No, I didn't.
- You must've wrangled it somehow.
I didn't, Patricia did.
I didn't, Patricia did.
She told Doris to walk on ahead.
She told Doris to walk on ahead.
I didn't do it, Patricia did.
I didn't do it, Patricia did.
- You mean a 10-year-old kid arranged
for you and her to be alone?
- Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, fellas.
- Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, fellas.
Just for the record, small girls even
Just for the record, small girls even
at that age can be seductive.
at that age can be seductive.
It's not usually conscious, but it's there.
It's not usually conscious, but it's there.
But he did want her to have him, didn't he?
But he did want her to have him, didn't he?
- I didn't!
- I didn't!
She said, "Why don't we take a ride in the car?"
She said?
She said?
- I'm telling you before God, I swear it!
- I'm telling you before God, I swear it!
It's getting dark.
It's getting dark.
Mother will be wondering where I am.
Mother will be wondering where I am.
Let's go back.
No!
- Lock me up.
- Lock me up.
Lock me up.
Lock me up.
Please, lock me up.
Why'd you say that, Jim?
Why'd you say that, Jim?
Why do you want to be locked up?
Why do you want to be locked up?
I had to.
I was sick.
I was sick.
He was, Cole.
He was, Cole.
That night he began to help himself.
That night he began to help himself.
That last moment in the car,
the control he fought for,
the control he fought for,
that was the first step on the way back.
that was the first step on the way back.
That's why he made no defense at the trial.
That's why he made no defense at the trial.
He wanted to be in prison to ask for help.
He wanted to be in prison to ask for help.
He wanted to be in prison to ask for help.
Do you understand that, Jim?
Do you understand that, Jim?
Do you understand what happened?
Do you understand what happened?
Do ya, Jim?
Do you understand, Jim?
Do you understand, Jim?
- First advertising contract we ever had.
- First advertising contract we ever had.
Still going strong.
Still going strong.
You a little out of sort this morning?
- No. - Hm.
- No. - Hm.
You know, I had no idea you existed
You know, I had no idea you existed
until the day before you came.
I never even heard of you coming for an interview.
I never even heard of you coming for an interview.
You didn't did you?
You didn't did you?
- No, a friend of mine put me in touch with Mr. Clive.
- No, a friend of mine put me in touch with Mr. Clive.
- I see.
- I see.
- Business acquaintance?
- Business acquaintance?
Someone I might know?
Someone I might know?
No, just a friend of Mr. Clive's.
How about the advertising personnel, Mr. Milne?
How about the advertising personnel, Mr. Milne?
- Yes.
Here we are.
Backgrounds, length of employment,
assignments they're handling at present.
- Mm hm.
I had a nightmare a few nights ago.
I had a nightmare a few nights ago.
- Same one?
- A few variations, mostly the same.
- A few variations, mostly the same.
Playground, Patricia, judge.
Playground, Patricia, judge.
- Anything you couldn't handle?
- Anything you couldn't handle?
- No.
- No.
- You're gonna see Mrs. Leighton tomorrow night?
- You're gonna see Mrs. Leighton tomorrow night?
- Easy guess, wasn't it?
- Easy guess, wasn't it?
Why else would I ask for a change in nights?
- You been with her again recently?
- You been with her again recently?
- A few nights ago.
- How was it?
- How was it?
- Fine.
- Seeing quite a bit of the lady aren't you?
- Seeing quite a bit of the lady aren't you?
- Let's not jump to conclusions, Doctor.
- Let's not jump to conclusions, Doctor.
- Ego, sex, opportunity.
- Ego, sex, opportunity.
Mix them all together and you've got the poet's dream.
Mix them all together and you've got the poet's dream.
Love.
Love.
- That's pretty cynical for a man who's about to be married.
- Well, I still think that marriage
- Well, I still think that marriage
is the best thing that can happen to a man or a woman.
is the best thing that can happen to a man or a woman.
How does she feel?
- I wouldn't know.
- You realize that three years ago
you would have been terrified of her?
you would have been terrified of her?
Are you still a bit afraid?
Are you still a bit afraid?
Is that it?
Is that it?
- What makes you think so?
- Well, the nightmare for example.
- Well, the nightmare for example.
- She has a daughter about 10 years old, I would say.
- She has a daughter about 10 years old, I would say.
That shakes you a little, doesn't it?
That shakes you a little, doesn't it?
- No, but obviously it shook you.
- No, but obviously it shook you.
You know better don't you?
- Yes, Doctor.
- Yes, Doctor.
It all came up beautifully in therapy.
It all came up beautifully in therapy.
Most crimes are the acting out of some inner conflict
Most crimes are the acting out of some inner conflict
and all of us have such conflicts
and all of us have such conflicts
and so called normal people control them.
and so called normal people control them.
Sick people act them out as I did.
Sick people act them out as I did.
Once you understand your conflicts, life.
Once you understand your conflicts, life.
- You sound normal enough.
- And on the surface I can function normally,
but what you don't seem to understand
is that inside half of the time I shake like a leaf.
is that inside half of the time I shake like a leaf.
is that inside half of the time I shake like a leaf.
- Everybody does from time to time
- Everybody does from time to time
and that is something you don't understand.
and that is something you don't understand.
- Except in my case, there has to be that moment,
- Except in my case, there has to be that moment,
that test of whether I'm actually cured or not.
that test of whether I'm actually cured or not.
that test of whether I'm actually cured or not.
- Not cured well.
Nobody's cured of their inner conflicts.
Nobody's cured of their inner conflicts.
Nobody's cured of their inner conflicts.
They're always there.
A man is well when he can understand them
A man is well when he can understand them
A man is well when he can understand them
and he can deal with them,
and anybody that tells ya any difference
and anybody that tells ya any difference
is a liar and a quack.
is a liar and a quack.
- Yes, Doctor, I know.
- Yes, Doctor, I know.
- Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy.
- Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy.
I don't mean to make light of your doubts.
I don't mean to make light of your doubts.
- My date with Ruth tomorrow night is at her house.
- My date with Ruth tomorrow night is at her house.
Do you understand, now?
Do you understand, now?
- Are you goin'?
- Would you suggest I do?
- I wouldn't suggest anything.
- Oh, it's my problem, huh?
- Oh, it's my problem, huh?
- Well, you'll work it out.
- Well, you'll work it out.
You're a big help, Doctor.
- Oh, you see the abuse we take in this profession?
- Oh, you see the abuse we take in this profession?
- Greatly obliged.
- Greatly obliged.
Smells wonderful.
What is it?
What is it?
- Jim!
- Oh, look at him, all spit and polish.
- Oh, look at him, all spit and polish.
- There's plenty here for you too, Jim.
- There's plenty here for you too, Jim.
- No thanks, Gertrude.
I'm invited out.
I'm invited out.
- Don't you know, Mother?
Jim's got a girl.
Jim's got a girl.
- Is this true, Jim?
- Is this true, Jim?
- Somebody he's been seeing a great deal of lately.
- Somebody he's been seeing a great deal of lately.
- You like this girl?
- You like this girl?
I think so.
- I hope you'll be very happy, Jim.
- I hope you'll be very happy, Jim.
- Well, Gertrude, I scarcely know the girl.
- Well, Gertrude, I scarcely know the girl.
Goodnight, Arnold.
Goodnight, Arnold.
- Goodnight, Jim. - Goodnight.
- Well, I don't suppose he wants to get married, Mother.
- Well, I don't suppose he wants to get married, Mother.
- Be quiet, Arnold.
- Mr. Fuller?
You are James Fuller, aren't you?
You are James Fuller, aren't you?
- Yes.
- Detective Division.
- Detective Division.
Will you come along with us, please?
- Well, why?
- Well, why?
- I want to talk with you at the station.
- I want to talk with you at the station.
Come along, please.
Come along, please.
- What do they wanna talk to me about?
- We don't know Mr. Fuller.
- We don't know Mr. Fuller.
- I'd like to make a phone call.
- Your lawyer?
- A place where I'm expected.
- A place where I'm expected.
- Sorry, only your lawyer until you've been questioned.
- Sorry, only your lawyer until you've been questioned.
- What is it?
- What is it?
What do they wanna question me about?
- Sorry, you'll have to wait.
- Sorry, you'll have to wait.
- James Fuller?
Yes.
Yes.
- Formally James Fontaine, is that correct?
- Formally James Fontaine, is that correct?
Yes.
- Sit down, Fuller.
- Sit down, Fuller.
I'm sorry to have kept you waiting,
I'm sorry to have kept you waiting,
but it was unavoidable.
Certain things we had to check.
Certain things we had to check.
Do you have any idea why?
- No, but I'd like to know.
- No, but I'd like to know.
- Do you know a little girl by the name of Lois Springer?
- Do you know a little girl by the name of Lois Springer?
- Do you know a little girl by the name of Lois Springer?
No.
- Are you certain?
- Are you certain?
A girl about 11.
Pretty little girl.
- No, I don't know of her.
- Were you on Prince's Lane anytime today?
- Were you on Prince's Lane anytime today?
No.
No.
- Have you ever been in Prince's Lane?
- Have you ever been in Prince's Lane?
- Well, I passed by there once or twice.
- Well, I passed by there once or twice.
But not today?
- No, not today.
- No, not today.
- Well, we'll tell you why we know Mr. Fuller
and then you can tell us what you know.
and then you can tell us what you know.
and then you can tell us what you know.
In Prince's Lane there's a bomb site,
In Prince's Lane there's a bomb site,
a rather deserted place.
Someone took little Lois there today
as she was coming home from school just after three
as she was coming home from school just after three
and brutally assaulted, criminally assaulted her.
and brutally assaulted, criminally assaulted her.
and brutally assaulted, criminally assaulted her.
Now, Lois may die.
Now, Lois may die.
If she does the charge
If she does the charge
is not only criminal assault, but murder.
- Look, I don't know-
- There is evidence
There is evidence
from Lois herself and other people.
It was a man about your height, about your coloring,
It was a man about your height, about your coloring,
It was a man about your height, about your coloring,
wearing a blue suit like you were.
wearing a blue suit like you were.
- I don't know anything about it.
You don't?
You don't?
- What makes you assume I do?
- That should be obvious, Fuller.
- Suppose you tell us where you were this afternoon.
- Suppose you tell us where you were this afternoon.
- Suppose you tell us where you were this afternoon.
- I was in my office.
- Can you establish that?
- Can you establish that?
- Yes.
- Yes.
The reception girl would have seen me if I had left.
The reception girl would have seen me if I had left.
At Clive Enterprises isn't it?
At Clive Enterprises isn't it?
- Yes.
Just a minute.
Just a minute.
It was shortly after three you said?
It was shortly after three you said?
At 3:15 I was with Mr. Clive himself.
At 3:15 I was with Mr. Clive himself.
At 3:15 I was with Mr. Clive himself.
- What's Clive's first name?
Don't you know?
- Andrew.
- Andrew.
- Home address?
- Home address?
- Well, I don't know.
- Well, I don't know.
I haven't been with him all that long.
I haven't been with him all that long.
Now, just relax a little, Fuller.
Now, just relax a little, Fuller.
- May I make a phone call first?
- May I make a phone call first?
Sorry, not quite yet.
Sorry, not quite yet.
- Mr. Fuller's free to leave, I think.
- Mr. Fuller's free to leave, I think.
- You're very fortunate, Mr. Fuller.
- You're very fortunate, Mr. Fuller.
It's not often a person can say with such preciseness-
It's not often a person can say with such preciseness-
- Thanks.
Thanks.
- Sorry, you do understand of course.
- Sorry, you do understand of course.
- Yes, I understand.
- Excuse me, could I talk to you for a moment?
- Excuse me, could I talk to you for a moment?
- Sorry. - Just a minute.
- Any information on the Springer case?
- Any information on the Springer case?
That's what you're here about isn't it?
- No, go away will you?
- Fontaine?
I'd like to have a word with you, Mr. Fontaine.
I'd like to have a word with you, Mr. Fontaine.
The name is Fuller.
The name is Fuller.
- Oh, yes, I understand.
- Oh, yes, I understand.
My name's Austin.
You wouldn't remember me of course
but I covered your trial in London.
but I covered your trial in London.
but I covered your trial in London.
It seems a long time ago now doesn't it?
It seems a long time ago now doesn't it?
I gather you've been questioned about
I gather you've been questioned about
the Springer case and that you've been cleared?
the Springer case and that you've been cleared?
- Yes, that's right, I've been cleared.
- Oh, I'm very glad.
- Oh, I'm very glad.
I'd have bet you would have been.
I'd have bet you would have been.
Yours wasn't the usual case at all.
Yours wasn't the usual case at all.
I'm sure you could use a drink.
I'm sure you could use a drink.
- Sorry, I've gotta make a phone call.
- Well, there's a phone in the pub up the street.
- Well, there's a phone in the pub up the street.
You could get a bite there too if you missed your dinner.
You could get a bite there too if you missed your dinner.
- Ruth, on my way over, I was picked up by the police.
- Ruth, on my way over, I was picked up by the police.
- Why?
- Why?
- Well, nothing important.
Just routine about my parole,
Just routine about my parole,
but I couldn't call 'til I was released.
but I couldn't call 'til I was released.
but I couldn't call 'til I was released.
- You are all right aren't you?
- Yes, of course, but I ruined your dinner.
- Yes, of course, but I ruined your dinner.
- Yes, of course, but I ruined your dinner.
- Don't worry about that.
Have you eaten anything?
Have you eaten anything?
- Well, no.
- Well, no.
- I could warm something up for you.
- Oh, no thanks, Ruth.
It's pretty late.
It's pretty late.
I'll get a sandwich and then go on home.
I'll get a sandwich and then go on home.
- Just as you say, Jim.
- Just as you say, Jim.
- Goodnight, Ruth.
Goodnight.
Goodnight.
- Complications?
- No more than usual.
- No more than usual.
- I thought you might like those.
- I thought you might like those.
- Oh, thanks.
- I have often wondered why you made no attempt
- I have often wondered why you made no attempt
to defend yourself during your trial.
to defend yourself during your trial.
to defend yourself during your trial.
You seemed so confused.
You seemed so confused.
- I was sick.
- I was sick.
- Extraordinary.
I mean that you knew that you were
and yet insisted on being sent away.
and yet insisted on being sent away.
And you've had therapy all this time.
And you've had therapy all this time.
- Yes.
- Yes.
- And you judged- - Others judged
that I was well.
that I was well.
- I'm very glad.
- I'm very glad.
A new name, new start.
A new name, new start.
I take it you're working now?
I take it you're working now?
- Yes. - Oh, good, good.
What a world.
This case this afternoon,
I was thinking, if such fellows had
I was thinking, if such fellows had
had the treatment you've had-
had the treatment you've had-
- It doesn't work that way, Mister?
- Austin.
- You run a newspaper up here?
- You run a newspaper up here?
- For a year or more now.
There are bigger opportunities than London.
What did you mean when you said it doesn't work that way?
What did you mean when you said it doesn't work that way?
- Well, I meant before a man can be treated
- Well, I meant before a man can be treated
he has to commit the crime doesn't he?
he has to commit the crime doesn't he?
- Well, if you'll excuse me, I'm really very tired.
- Well, if you'll excuse me, I'm really very tired.
- I'd like to talk to you again, Fontaine.
- I'd like to talk to you again, Fontaine.
- Fuller.
- Sorry.
- Sorry.
Where do you live now?
- This should do it.
- No, no, no, no, no, no- - Goodnight, Austin.
- No, no, no, no, no, no- - Goodnight, Austin.
- Goodnight, Fuller.
- Goodnight, Fuller.
Good luck.
Good luck.
- Oh, Jim.
I thought it was Gertrude.
I thought it was Gertrude.
Well, you're home a little early aren't you?
Well, you're home a little early aren't you?
- Yes.
Had dinner, that's all.
I've got some work to do.
I've got some work to do.
- We could go 'round to the pub for a minute.
- We could go 'round to the pub for a minute.
- I'm afraid not tonight, Arnold.
- I'm afraid not tonight, Arnold.
- Oh yes, have you heard about this, Jim?
Another one of those sex crimes.
Another one of those sex crimes.
Of course, Gertrude doesn't like me to buy this paper.
Of course, Gertrude doesn't like me to buy this paper.
Says they print trash but there's lots
Says they print trash but there's lots
of things here that you don't see.
of things here that you don't see.
11 years old she was.
11 years old she was.
It's a terrible thing.
It's a terrible thing.
Would you like to take it up with you?
Would you like to take it up with you?
- No, thanks, Arnold.
- No, thanks, Arnold.
Goodnight.
- Goodnight.
- I had to know you were all right.
- I had to know you were all right.
- I was just going to you.
- Can you make it tonight, Jim?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- What?
- Well, under the circumstances
- Well, under the circumstances
hadn't you better plan on opening a few tins of something?
hadn't you better plan on opening a few tins of something?
- Sorry, no, I'll take one more chance.
- Sorry, no, I'll take one more chance.
- Sorry, no, I'll take one more chance.
Seven o'clock?
Fine.
Are you Mr. Fuller?
Are you Mr. Fuller?
- Well, you must be Janie.
- Well, you must be Janie.
- Yes, I am.
Please come in.
Please come in.
Hang your things there, Mr. Fuller.
Hang your things there, Mr. Fuller.
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
- Come in.
Please sit down.
Please sit down.
That's the most comfortable place.
That's the most comfortable place.
Thank you.
- Mommy will be down soon.
- Mommy will be down soon.
She's a bit behind schedule.
- Oh.
- Would you like some sherry?
- Would you like some sherry?
- Well, yes, I believe I would.
- Well, yes, I believe I would.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Oh, I'll get it.
- No, I will.
Please let me bring it.
Please let me bring it.
- All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
- Try it.
- Mm, that's very good.
- Mm, that's very good.
- Mommy said you work at Mr. Clive's, too.
- Mommy said you work at Mr. Clive's, too.
- Yes.
That's where your mommy and I met.
That's where your mommy and I met.
- I know.
We waited a long time for you on Friday.
We waited a long time for you on Friday.
Oh, please don't tell Mommy I said that.
Oh, please don't tell Mommy I said that.
- Well, why not, Janie?
- Well, why not, Janie?
She told me not to and I promised.
She told me not to and I promised.
- That's quite all right.
- That's quite all right.
She did explain didn't she?
She did explain didn't she?
- You thought it was another evening she said.
- You thought it was another evening she said.
- That's right.
- That's right.
It was very simple and very stupid of me.
It was very simple and very stupid of me.
- But please don't say I said it.
- But please don't say I said it.
- I won't, I promise.
- I won't, I promise.
- Well, good evening.
- Well, good evening.
Good evening.
- It's so nice to see you, Jim.
- It's so nice to see you, Jim.
Thank you.
Thank you.
- What was the big joke when I came in?
- Why, it's a little complicated.
- Why, it's a little complicated.
- Oh, I see.
- Oh, I see.
Has Janie looked after you?
Has Janie looked after you?
- Mr. Fuller liked the sherry.
- Good.
- Good.
Thank you, dear.
Are you hungry?
Are you hungry?
Mm hm, very.
- You better be because I'll be ready in just a few moments.
- You better be because I'll be ready in just a few moments.
Will excuse me?
Will excuse me?
Janie, will you show Mr. Fuller into the dining room?
Janie, will you show Mr. Fuller into the dining room?
- This way, Mr. Fuller.
- This way, Mr. Fuller.
But you can see that, can't you?
But you can see that, can't you?
This is very good don't you think, Mr. Fuller?
This is very good don't you think, Mr. Fuller?
- Mm, absolutely wonderful.
- Mm, absolutely wonderful.
- Well, thank you both very much,
but actually fish was the only thing I had time to do.
but actually fish was the only thing I had time to do.
- It isn't just fish, Mommy.
- It isn't just fish, Mommy.
- Mm, I was going to say Sole.
- Mm, I was going to say Sole.
Grapes, olives, Parmesan cheese.
Grapes, olives, Parmesan cheese.
- It's a French recipe.
- It's a French recipe.
- Yes, dear.
- Mommy has just about ever cookery book in the world.
- Mommy has just about ever cookery book in the world.
- Mommy has just about ever cookery book in the world.
- All right, it's Sole Veronique, a la Leighton.
- All right, it's Sole Veronique, a la Leighton.
- All right, it's Sole Veronique, a la Leighton.
- See?
Friday night, Mommy made...
Friday night, Mommy made...
- What, Janie?
What did I miss Friday night?
What did I miss Friday night?
- Chicken in wine.
- Chicken in wine.
- Well, that serves me right.
I'll never understand how I got my evening so confused.
I'll never understand how I got my evening so confused.
I'll never understand how I got my evening so confused.
In any case it couldn't have been better than this.
In any case it couldn't have been better than this.
- I haven't been collecting very long.
- If you don't like pressed flowers, Jim, just say so.
- If you don't like pressed flowers, Jim, just say so.
- If you don't like pressed flowers, Jim, just say so.
- Well, I do.
- Well, I do.
- Start with violets, I have more of them than anything.
- Start with violets, I have more of them than anything.
- I'll be in, in two minutes, Jim,
- I'll be in, in two minutes, Jim,
and then it's bed for you, Janie.
- There.
I haven't all the names under them yet.
I haven't all the names under them yet.
You're not looking at them.
You're not looking at them.
- Why, they're very beautiful and very neatly pressed.
- Why, they're very beautiful and very neatly pressed.
- Why, they're very beautiful and very neatly pressed.
- That's an African kind.
- That's an African kind.
I forget its name.
- I'm afraid I don't remember either.
- I'm afraid I don't remember either.
- Oh, wait.
- Oh, wait.
A four leaf clover.
I found it myself.
- You did?
- Honest.
- Honest.
I forget this one.
I forget this one.
- It's a Ragged Robbin.
- It's a Ragged Robbin.
- You do like flowers don't you?
- I've learned a lot from them.
- I've learned a lot from them.
You mean about them?
You mean about them?
No, from them.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
Well, let's take this ordinary violet.
Well, let's take this ordinary violet.
You have two of them.
You'd say they were exactly the same.
- They are.
- No.
- No.
If you look at them closely under a magnifying glass,
If you look at them closely under a magnifying glass,
you will see there's some difference
in the way nature made them.
in the way nature made them.
And all these millions and millions of years
And all these millions and millions of years
and nature never made two of anything alike.
and nature never made two of anything alike.
and nature never made two of anything alike.
Nothing like you ever existed before.
Nothing like you ever existed before.
You're brand new.
You're brand new.
- So are you then.
- Yes.
- Yes.
And if you know somebody really,
And if you know somebody really,
you know what's different about them,
and if you like what's different about them,
and if you like what's different about them,
sometimes you can come to love them.
sometimes you can come to love them.
Oh, I'm afraid that's a little complicated.
Oh, I'm afraid that's a little complicated.
- Will you say it again, please?
- Will you say it again, please?
- No, not tonight, Janie.
It's nearly nine o'clock.
It's nearly nine o'clock.
- Oh, Mommy.
- I know dear, I'm sorry to interrupt,
- I know dear, I'm sorry to interrupt,
but if you remember where you left off,
but if you remember where you left off,
you and Mr. Fuller can continue next time.
you and Mr. Fuller can continue next time.
- Night, Mr. Fuller.
- Night, Mr. Fuller.
- Goodnight, Janie.
- Please, will you come again?
- I hope so.
- Will you come up, Mommy?
- Will you come up, Mommy?
- Yes, in a minute.
You get ready for bed.
You get ready for bed.
Are you exhausted?
- Not at all.
- Oh, she exhausts me.
That little speech about getting your evening so confused,
That little speech about getting your evening so confused,
how did you know that was the official explanation?
how did you know that was the official explanation?
- Well, was it?
- Well, was it?
She told you and then swore you to secrecy?
She told you and then swore you to secrecy?
- I have nothing to say.
- I have nothing to say.
- Five minutes, Jim, hm?
- Five minutes, Jim, hm?
I may seem terribly busy but it isn't all that difficult.
I may seem terribly busy but it isn't all that difficult.
I have a secret weapon, Mrs. Connors.
I have a secret weapon, Mrs. Connors.
She cooks, cleans, looks after Janie's clothes and mine.
She cooks, cleans, looks after Janie's clothes and mine.
She cooks, cleans, looks after Janie's clothes and mine.
I supervise but on the run, so to speak.
I supervise but on the run, so to speak.
- It's remarkable the things a women can do on the run.
- It's remarkable the things a women can do on the run.
- It's remarkable the things a women can do on the run.
- Yes?
- Well, this home.
- Well, this home.
- Remarkable?
- Remarkable?
- To me.
Why?
Why?
- Just whatever it was I sensed when I first walked in.
- Just whatever it was I sensed when I first walked in.
- And what was that?
- And what was that?
- Well, I can't explain exactly.
- Well, I can't explain exactly.
It's, well, this is the first real home I'd ever been in.
It's, well, this is the first real home I'd ever been in.
It's, well, this is the first real home I'd ever been in.
- The first home, you mean that?
- Yes.
You had one as a boy.
You had one as a boy.
- It's still the very first.
- Shall I make some more coffee?
- Shall I make some more coffee?
- Oh, no thanks, Ruth.
- Oh, no thanks, Ruth.
It's getting late you know.
It's getting late you know.
- Another minute, Jim.
- Another minute, Jim.
You know, ever since the other day,
You know, ever since the other day,
I wondered why of all nights I should
I wondered why of all nights I should
have talked about myself like I did.
have talked about myself like I did.
The fact was, I think that I wanted to for a long time,
The fact was, I think that I wanted to for a long time,
as if I knew I'd be healthy in a way if I did,
as if I knew I'd be healthy in a way if I did,
as if I knew I'd be healthy in a way if I did,
but the trouble was you see,
it had to be someone who wanted to listen.
it had to be someone who wanted to listen.
Someone I felt that, I mean, someone I could be sure of.
Someone I felt that, I mean, someone I could be sure of.
Someone I felt that, I mean, someone I could be sure of.
Jim, please don't misunderstand.
Jim, please don't misunderstand.
By sure of I don't mean...
By sure of I don't mean...
I mean I , I think you better go home.
I mean I , I think you better go home.
I mean I , I think you better go home.
- It's been a wonderful evening.
- It's been a wonderful evening.
- Shh!
You know, the last thing Janie said was,
You know, the last thing Janie said was,
"Couldn't we have Mr. Fuller for dinner again very soon?"
"Couldn't we have Mr. Fuller for dinner again very soon?"
"Couldn't we have Mr. Fuller for dinner again very soon?"
So you see, you made a big conquest tonight,
So you see, you made a big conquest tonight,
and you know now how welcome you are.
- Thank you.
- Actually, Jim, if this is a home you like,
- Actually, Jim, if this is a home you like,
- Actually, Jim, if this is a home you like,
- Actually, Jim, if this is a home you like,
it is yours in a sense, whenever you want it to be.
it is yours in a sense, whenever you want it to be.
it is yours in a sense, whenever you want it to be.
- Goodnight.
- Goodnight, Jim.
- Goodnight, Jim.
- Then somewhere during the evening,
I understood I didn't have to be afraid of Janie.
Well, she was a child and I was looking
Well, she was a child and I was looking
at her as a child and nothing else.
at her as a child and nothing else.
Evidently I could see things in perspective.
Evidently I could see things in perspective.
By perspective, I mean all evening long
By perspective, I mean all evening long
I couldn't see what I'd been worried
about before I got to the house.
Does that make sense?
Does that make sense?
- The human mind.
- The human mind.
What a fabulous piece of machinery.
What a fabulous piece of machinery.
- It was Monday night I was at Ruth's.
- It was Monday night I was at Ruth's.
I never got there Friday.
I never got there Friday.
Police picked me up that night.
Did you know that?
Did you know that?
In the Springer case?
- Yes.
- Yes.
They held me nearly three hours.
They held me nearly three hours.
Ruth was waiting for me and I wasn't allowed to phone.
Ruth was waiting for me and I wasn't allowed to phone.
Was that the worst of it?
Was that the worst of it?
- That and their eagerness to put the finger on me.
- That and their eagerness to put the finger on me.
- That and their eagerness to put the finger on me.
Is that how it's going to be, Doctor?
Are they gonna drag me down
Are they gonna drag me down
to headquarters? - Whoa, whoa, whoa,
to headquarters? - Whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, Jimmy, whoa, Jimmy.
Remember, I know how far you've come along.
Remember, I know how far you've come along.
So do you, but the police,
So do you, but the police,
the police are historians at heart.
the police are historians at heart.
You were so you might still be.
You were so you might still be.
When a case like this happens-
When a case like this happens-
- I had to tell Ruth about the police pickin' me up.
- I had to tell Ruth about the police pickin' me up.
A parole matter I said.
A parole matter I said.
Nothing about the Springer case or me.
Nothing about the Springer case or me.
She still doesn't know.
First time we were out together and I heard about Janie
First time we were out together and I heard about Janie
I wanted to tell her then.
I wanted to tell her then.
Why didn't you?
- Well, it takes a certain amount of courage, Doctor.
- Well, it takes a certain amount of courage, Doctor.
She stopped me in a way.
She stopped me in a way.
Couldn't matter, she said.
She meant, she wanted to know about me.
She meant, she wanted to know about me.
What I was now, not what happened in the past.
What I was now, not what happened in the past.
What I was now, not what happened in the past.
I suppose I wanted to think she was right.
I suppose I wanted to think she was right.
And after all, I wasn't sure then
And after all, I wasn't sure then
how I really felt about her.
how I really felt about her.
- And you are now?
- The things that keep plaguing me,
- The things that keep plaguing me,
am I really in love or am I trying to prove something,
am I really in love or am I trying to prove something,
am I really in love or am I trying to prove something,
as I did when I forced myself to stand near that playground?
as I did when I forced myself to stand near that playground?
as I did when I forced myself to stand near that playground?
Prove that I can have a normal relationship,
Prove that I can have a normal relationship,
that's what I need to know.
And she wants to know me as I am.
Well, once I tell her will either
of us have a chance to find out?
of us have a chance to find out?
of us have a chance to find out?
I mean, can we go on normally after that?
I mean, can we go on normally after that?
And yet above all with Janie, she should know.
And yet above all with Janie, she should know.
And yet above all with Janie, she should know.
The question is exactly when?
No suggestions, Doctor?
- I'm afraid not.
Is is my judgment good enough?
Is is my judgment good enough?
- It has to be, doesn't it?
- It has to be, doesn't it?
- Thanks, Doctor.
By the way, that's sincere.
By the way, that's sincere.
- I find that a bit disturbing.
- Would you like to go to a film tonight to take a drive?
- Would you like to go to a film tonight to take a drive?
- Would you?
No.
No.
But I keep your house bound so much,
But I keep your house bound so much,
I could send Janie to Margaret's.
I could send Janie to Margaret's.
- I like being housebound.
- I like being housebound.
I think I'd rather stay in.
I think I'd rather stay in.
- Mommy!
- Mommy!
Here's something interesting, Mommy.
Here's something interesting, Mommy.
What is it, dear?
- Remember the carnival that was here last year?
Yes.
Yes.
Well, it's coming again.
- Oh, interesting.
- I couldn't go last time, remember?
- I couldn't go last time, remember?
I had a bad cold.
I had a bad cold.
- Yes, I remember.
- Yes, I remember.
- When you were a boy, Jim, did you ever go to a carnival?
- When you were a boy, Jim, did you ever go to a carnival?
- When you were a boy, Jim, did you ever go to a carnival?
- Oh, now and then.
I think I'd like to go to this one.
I think I'd like to go to this one.
Why don't we all go?
Why don't we all go?
- That's a wonderful idea.
Wouldn't you like to, Mommy?
- Yes, I'd love to.
- Yes, I'd love to.
- Well, isn't it lucky I happened to see this?
- Well, isn't it lucky I happened to see this?
- No, really, Jim, I got to get you out.
- No, really, Jim, I got to get you out.
We could take a drive on Saturday or Sunday if it's nice.
We could take a drive on Saturday or Sunday if it's nice.
It's beautiful now.
Would you like to?
- Mm hm.
- Mm hm.
- A long drive, over the whole weekend perhaps?
- A long drive, over the whole weekend perhaps?
- A long drive, over the whole weekend perhaps?
Do you think we can do that?
- Why not?
- Why not?
- Perhaps even without Janie,
- Perhaps even without Janie,
just to give everyone a change.
It'll take a little explaining but shall we plan on that?
It'll take a little explaining but shall we plan on that?
It'll take a little explaining but shall we plan on that?
- All right.
- Boy, I never thought I'd make it.
I'm absolutely dead.
I'm absolutely dead.
- Well, I warned ya.
- I'll ache for days.
- I'll ache for days.
I don't mind.
I don't mind.
- Then you better go right to bed.
- No, not yet.
- You do as I tell you.
Now, say goodnight like a good girl.
Now, say goodnight like a good girl.
- Jim, how late can we start back tomorrow
- Jim, how late can we start back tomorrow
in order to be back by six?
in order to be back by six?
- Oh, about three o'clock.
- Oh, about three o'clock.
- Let's get up very early,
- Let's get up very early,
and make it the longest day we possibly can, hm?
and make it the longest day we possibly can, hm?
At seven?
At seven?
Seven?
I think I'll make it.
I think I'll make it.
- All right.
Well, goodnight.
- Goodnight.
Six o'clock.
Oh, Janie's driving Margaret frantic by now.
Oh, Janie's driving Margaret frantic by now.
Oh, Janie's driving Margaret frantic by now.
- Oh, you don't have to drop me off.
I can walk home.
I can walk home.
- I want to.
- I want to.
I can say goodbye to your properly in the car.
I can say goodbye to your properly in the car.
- I will see you tomorrow.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, that's a comfort.
Oh, that's a comfort.
Come, Jim.
- Hello, Fuller.
- Hello, Fuller.
Nice to see you again.
Nice to see you again.
- Oh, hello.
- Well, this is my local.
- Well, this is my local.
Are you from this district, too?
- Yes.
Oh, Ruth, this is Mr. Austin.
Oh, Ruth, this is Mr. Austin.
- How do you do?
- How do you do?
- Oh, how do you do Miss?
- Oh, how do you do Miss?
- Leighton.
Mrs. Leighton.
Mrs. Leighton.
- Been out in the country?
- Been out in the country?
- Yes.
- Far out?
- Far out?
- The lake district.
- Well, that's a long drive for one day.
- Well, that's a long drive for one day.
- Well, that's a long drive for one day.
- We got there yesterday.
- If you'll excuse us, Austin.
We have to run.
- Goodbye, Mr. Austin.
- Goodbye, Mr. Austin.
- Pleased to have met you, Mrs. Leighton.
- Pleased to have met you, Mrs. Leighton.
- Not a close friend of yours I hope?
- Not a close friend of yours I hope?
- No.
I couldn't help it, Jim.
He was such an obvious snoop.
He was such an obvious snoop.
I'm so happy, I just wanted someone to know.
I'm so happy, I just wanted someone to know.
Even him.
Even him.
Come, let's run.
- Have a nice trip, Jim?
Wonderful, thanks.
Wonderful, thanks.
- Away alone overnight?
- Arnold!
Would you like a bite of something, Jim?
Would you like a bite of something, Jim?
- Well, no, thank you.
- Well, no, thank you.
I may slip down for something before I go to sleep.
I may slip down for something before I go to sleep.
- Jim, this girl you know.
- Jim, this girl you know.
- Mrs. Leighton?
- Mrs. Leighton?
- Missus?
- Missus?
- She's a widow, Gertrude.
- Oh.
Well, we'd love to meet her sometime.
Well, we'd love to meet her sometime.
If you're not ashamed of us that is.
- Of course you'll meet her very soon.
- Of course you'll meet her very soon.
I promise.
I promise.
- I'll keep something for you.
- I'll keep something for you.
Hello.
- Hello.
I've been told I'm sloppy.
What do you think?
What do you think?
- It looks like you're workin'
through your problems very nicely, Doctor.
- Oh, we're in for one of them evening's are we?
- Oh, we're in for one of them evening's are we?
- Oh, we're in for one of them evening's are we?
What makes you so chipper tonight, as if I didn't know?
What makes you so chipper tonight, as if I didn't know?
- Have you ever been to the lake district?
- Have you ever been to the lake district?
It's very beautiful.
It's very beautiful.
- How was it?
- I just told you.
- I just told you.
I know, but you didn't go to the lakes to look at the lakes.
I know, but you didn't go to the lakes to look at the lakes.
- It went fine.
- It went fine.
- No problems?
- Hm mm.
- Hm mm.
- That good, huh?
- That good, huh?
- Oh, now you sound like a fellow I once knew named Akers.
- Oh, now you sound like a fellow I once knew named Akers.
- Oh, now you sound like a fellow I once knew named Akers.
- Oh, I'm sorry, Jimmy.
- Oh, I'm sorry, Jimmy.
I just meant any plans?
I just meant any plans?
- Not especially.
- Not especially.
Why?
- Oh no, I just asked.
- Oh no, I just asked.
Just asked that's all.
Oh, by the way, by the way,
Oh, by the way, by the way,
there's somethin' I wanted to tell you.
there's somethin' I wanted to tell you.
See, Hazel and I, Hazel and I,
See, Hazel and I, Hazel and I,
we're givin' an engagement party
we're givin' an engagement party
in a few weeks and we'd like you to come.
in a few weeks and we'd like you to come.
- Thanks.
Think I'll do as a married man?
Think I'll do as a married man?
- We all have to find our own answers, Doctor.
- We all have to find our own answers, Doctor.
- Well, I wish I thought that judgment played
any part in this partner.
any part in this partner.
Oh, what does?
- Instinct and prayer.
- You pray your instincts are sound, is that it?
- You pray your instincts are sound, is that it?
- You pray your instincts are sound, is that it?
Yes, that's right.
Yes, that's right.
Except we don't exactly know what we mean by sound.
Except we don't exactly know what we mean by sound.
- Well, you mean not obviously sick at least?
- Well, you mean not obviously sick at least?
- As to that, it's an amazing thing I've noticed.
- As to that, it's an amazing thing I've noticed.
- As to that, it's an amazing thing I've noticed.
When someone's been sick begins to get better
When someone's been sick begins to get better
he's generally more balanced
he's generally more balanced
and has sounder instinct in many ways
and has sounder instinct in many ways
than people who've never been ill.
than people who've never been ill.
- Immunity?
- Immunity?
Perhaps, I never thought of it like that.
Perhaps, I never thought of it like that.
But most likely it's insight and understanding
But most likely it's insight and understanding
But most likely it's insight and understanding
and the knowledge that he's been there,
he's been right down to the bottom of the barrel
he's been right down to the bottom of the barrel
and no matter what happens to him,
he can't be as bad off as he was once.
he can't be as bad off as he was once.
That's a negative way of lookin' at it perhaps but,
That's a negative way of lookin' at it perhaps but,
well, sometimes I wish that half the people
well, sometimes I wish that half the people
in this city had been ill and were gettin' better.
in this city had been ill and were gettin' better.
in this city had been ill and were gettin' better.
Coffee tonight?
- Yes.
Thanks, Doctor.
- Come in, Jim.
- Come in, Jim.
Milne gave me this yesterday.
Milne gave me this yesterday.
We'll propose the new setup.
Your work he said and his.
Sit down, Jim.
Sit down, Jim.
I do appreciate the way you took Roy in on this.
I do appreciate the way you took Roy in on this.
It's a very remarkable piece of work, Jim.
It's a very remarkable piece of work, Jim.
I tried to phone you about it last night.
I tried to phone you about it last night.
I was out, I'm sorry.
I was out, I'm sorry.
- At Ruth's, I believe.
- At Ruth's, I believe.
- Yes.
- Yes.
- Mrs. Cartwright at your number said
that's where you undoubtedly were.
that's where you undoubtedly were.
Now, I don't mean to pry, Jim.
Now, I don't mean to pry, Jim.
Now, I don't mean to pry, Jim.
Ruth's had some pretty rough going and so have you.
Ruth's had some pretty rough going and so have you.
There's something that I think perhaps
There's something that I think perhaps
I should have mentioned to you before.
I should have mentioned to you before.
Some time ago the police telephoned me
Some time ago the police telephoned me
to inquire your whereabouts on a certain day.
to inquire your whereabouts on a certain day.
to inquire your whereabouts on a certain day.
- I'm sorry, I didn't want them to bother you.
- I'm sorry, I didn't want them to bother you.
- Oh, nonsense.
I don't want you ever to feel that way.
The fact is I hate to see a man followed up on like this.
The fact is I hate to see a man followed up on like this.
The fact is I hate to see a man followed up on like this.
Jim, I go a great deal on feelings,
and I had a feeling about you
and I had a feeling about you
the first day you walked through that door.
the first day you walked through that door.
The way you've tackled this work is more than born me out.
The way you've tackled this work is more than born me out.
The way you've tackled this work is more than born me out.
Now, to put this plan into operation needs
Now, to put this plan into operation needs
a competence of its own.
a competence of its own.
I shall want you to work close beside me
as my personal assistant
as my personal assistant
with a considerable amount of executive authority.
with a considerable amount of executive authority.
You'd be willing, I take it?
You'd be willing, I take it?
- Yes.
- There's Milne, of course.
- There's Milne, of course.
Sooner or later, he's bound to know that you replaced him.
Sooner or later, he's bound to know that you replaced him.
Sooner or later, he's bound to know that you replaced him.
And how does one explain to a man
who's worked with you all these years, hm?
who's worked with you all these years, hm?
Well, that's not your problem.
Well, that's not your problem.
Suppose you relax for awhile.
Suppose you relax for awhile.
Begin to think about the first steps that you want to take,
Begin to think about the first steps that you want to take,
and we'll have our talks later.
and we'll have our talks later.
Is that all right?
Is that all right?
- Yes.
- Oh, and Jim, about the salary you were started on here,
- Oh, and Jim, about the salary you were started on here,
- Oh, and Jim, about the salary you were started on here,
you'll leave me to revise that won't you?
you'll leave me to revise that won't you?
- Thank you, Mr. Clive.
- With executive authority?
- With executive authority?
I'm very impressed.
I'm very impressed.
This is bound to change things between us.
This is bound to change things between us.
- Well, I can't be found drying dishes again of course.
- Well, I can't be found drying dishes again of course.
- Naturally not.
Jim, we have to celebrate somehow, hm?
Jim, we have to celebrate somehow, hm?
Jim, we have to celebrate somehow, hm?
- Yes.
Well, there's the carnival Saturday.
Well, there's the carnival Saturday.
That'll do for a start.
That'll do for a start.
- I have an idea.
You go with Janie and I stay home and cook a special dinner.
You go with Janie and I stay home and cook a special dinner.
- Mm mm, no, that'll never do.
- Mm mm, no, that'll never do.
- Jim, please.
- Jim, please.
That's the way I like to celebrate.
That's the way I like to celebrate.
- One more time on the merry-go-round.
Can we, Jim?
- I think so.
- I think so.
- You liked everything, too, didn't you?
- You liked everything, too, didn't you?
- Everything.
- I love you, Jim.
- I love you, Jim.
- I love you, too, Janie.
- I love you, too, Janie.
- Oh!
- Oh, we were making
- Oh, we were making
our most sickening lurch when Janie yelled,
our most sickening lurch when Janie yelled,
"This shouldn't bother you, Jim.
"This shouldn't bother you, Jim.
Mommy said you you used to be a sailor."
I said, "Yes, but right now I wish I were ashore."
I said, "Yes, but right now I wish I were ashore."
- No.
- No.
- Well, this is a lot better than popcorn isn't it, Janie?
- Well, this is a lot better than popcorn isn't it, Janie?
- Yes.
Only I wish I was ashore, too.
Only I wish I was ashore, too.
- Janie, not really?
- Janie, not really?
- May I be excused?
- May I be excused?
- Oh, come, I'll get you into bed.
- Oh, come, I'll get you into bed.
- Night, Jim.
- Goodnight, Janie.
- Goodnight, Janie.
- And I can see you now, but only the good points,
- And I can see you now, but only the good points,
but the weaknesses too.
You have some, you know.
- I have?
- I have?
- Yes, you're far too good and far too decent.
- Yes, you're far too good and far too decent.
But I'll put up with that.
And I suddenly know this about myself too.
And I suddenly know this about myself too.
I'm not afraid of liking someone again,
I'm not afraid of liking someone again,
that I don't feel guilty about it.
that I don't feel guilty about it.
Much more than that, that I haven't been trying
Much more than that, that I haven't been trying
to settle for something only halfway right
to settle for something only halfway right
because of loneliness.
because of loneliness.
I'm sorry, Jim.
I'm sorry, Jim.
- Why?
- Why?
Because you don't feel that way yet.
Because you don't feel that way yet.
- Ruth-
- The first thing you know,
- The first thing you know,
I make you say something you don't even mean.
I make you say something you don't even mean.
- Ruth listen.
- Ruth listen.
I love you so very much.
I love you so very much.
- You see?
You know that.
- Not until I wrenched it out of you.
- Not until I wrenched it out of you.
Was it painful?
Was it painful?
No.
Mommy, Mommy!
Mommy, Mommy!
- I'm coming, dear.
What a time.
What a time.
- Will you wait, Jim?
- Will you wait, Jim?
- No, I think you really ought to stay with her.
- No, I think you really ought to stay with her.
It's getting late, Ruth.
I'm sorry.
- Oh.
- Oh.
Oh, please.
Mommy, quick!
Mommy, quick!
- I'm coming, dear.
- I'm coming, dear.
She's fine this morning.
After school absolutely perfect
and expects to see you tonight at seven, dear, or earlier?
and expects to see you tonight at seven, dear, or earlier?
Come as early as you can.
Come as early as you can.
- Yes, Ruth, goodbye.
- Sorry Jim, do you have a moment?
- Yes, of course, Roy.
- Yes, of course, Roy.
Come in.
- I was with Andrew over the weekend.
I suppose you know what I'm referring to?
I suppose you know what I'm referring to?
- I think so.
- I think so.
- I knew something was going on
- I knew something was going on
when he asked me out to the house.
when he asked me out to the house.
He hasn't in quite awhile you know?
- I'm sorry, Roy.
- You're sorry, you're always so damn sorry.
- You're sorry, you're always so damn sorry.
Why don't you say what you mean?
Why don't you say you're so happy...
I don't know what I'm saying.
I don't know what I'm saying.
- It needn't make all that difference.
- It needn't make all that difference.
- No, I suppose not.
It's just not easy you see.
Anyway, there's a real future for you here, Jim.
Anyway, there's a real future for you here, Jim.
Anyway, there's a real future for you here, Jim.
I wish you luck.
I really mean that.
I really mean that.
- Thank you, Roy.
Well, what's the matter?
Well, what's the matter?
What is it, Gertrude?
What is it, Gertrude?
- It's not true!
- No?
- No?
Well, listen to this then.
"The photograph on page one pictures, James Fontaine,
"The photograph on page one pictures, James Fontaine,
alias James Fuller, convicted of abduction
alias James Fuller, convicted of abduction
of nine-year-old Patricia Ellsworth of London
of nine-year-old Patricia Ellsworth of London
with intent to commit rape." - Yes, but Arnold-
with intent to commit rape." - Yes, but Arnold-
- "Released after serving a sentence of three years.
- "Released after serving a sentence of three years.
- "Released after serving a sentence of three years.
How this admitted sexual psychopath uses
How this admitted sexual psychopath uses
his freedom is illustrated in our photograph.
his freedom is illustrated in our photograph.
It was taken him at carnival Saturday afternoon.
It was taken him at carnival Saturday afternoon.
He was in company of this child for more than an hour,
He was in company of this child for more than an hour,
He was in company of this child for more than an hour,
buying her ice cream and taking her on some of the rides.
buying her ice cream and taking her on some of the rides.
One of these rides was a catapult device operating
One of these rides was a catapult device operating
with particular violence,
with particular violence,
capable of shocking and frightening a young child,
capable of shocking and frightening a young child,
making her cling to the adult who accompanied her."
making her cling to the adult who accompanied her."
- Arnold-
- "Fontaine has been questioned
- "Fontaine has been questioned
in the still unsolved rape murder
in the still unsolved rape murder
of 11-year-old Lois Springer,
of 11-year-old Lois Springer,
who was-" - Arnold!
Jim, I want to ask you a question.
Jim, I want to ask you a question.
You said it isn't true.
You said it isn't true.
- But that picture Saturday is-
- But that picture Saturday is-
- But three years ago you- - Of course it's true.
- But three years ago you- - Of course it's true.
Is this you, Fontaine, three years ago?
Is this you, Fontaine, three years ago?
Yes, Arnold.
- Well, look at it.
- Well, look at it.
Of course it's true, newspapers don't lie.
Of course it's true, newspapers don't lie.
- That one does.
- That one does.
They print trash.
I've told you time and again not to bring it in here.
I've told you time and again not to bring it in here.
- I knew I'd seen him somewhere.
- I knew I'd seen him somewhere.
This is what I saw.
- Jim, is Fontaine your real name or-
- Jim, is Fontaine your real name or-
- Why keep asking him questions?
- Why keep asking him questions?
He's the one.
He's the one.
First, that little girl in London and now probably Lois-
- Be quiet.
- Be quiet.
Go into the kitchen.
Go into the kitchen.
I want to talk to Jim.
I want to talk to Jim.
- I won't leave you alone here with-
- I said go into the kitchen.
- I said go into the kitchen.
- I said go into the kitchen.
- All right, Mother.
- All right, Mother.
But I'm not gonna have him in my house another night.
But I'm not gonna have him in my house another night.
We're decent people.
He can't come back under this roof
He can't come back under this roof
after taking little girls and...
- Jim, you didn't escape from prison.
- Jim, you didn't escape from prison.
- Jim, you didn't escape from prison.
- They released me.
- They released me.
I'm on parole.
- But how could they have passed the-
- But how could they have passed the-
- The doctors recommended it.
- The doctors recommended it.
They agreed I was well.
- Well?
- I was sick, Gertrude.
- I was sick, Gertrude.
I didn't understand what I was doing.
I didn't understand what I was doing.
- But how could you do a thing like that?
- But how could you do a thing like that?
- I'm trying to tell you.
- I'm trying to tell you.
- It said with intent to commit.
Then you didn't really?
- No.
- But you actually did take
that poor little child. - Gertrude!
that poor little child. - Gertrude!
- Imagine the terror, how she may feel
- Imagine the terror, how she may feel
for the rest of her life.
for the rest of her life.
- I've dreamed of it, Gertrude, 1,000 times.
- I've dreamed of it, Gertrude, 1,000 times.
The nightmare I had the night you came into my room-
The nightmare I had the night you came into my room-
- And this, this Mrs. Leighton,
- And this, this Mrs. Leighton,
how is she going to feel when
she sees that picture? - Listen to me!
she sees that picture? - Listen to me!
That little girl in that picture is her daughter.
That little girl in that picture is her daughter.
I was just taking her for...
I was just taking her for...
- Her daughter?
- Her daughter?
Oh.
Please leave this house.
Please leave this house.
Pack your bag at once and get out.
Pack your bag at once and get out.
- "Northern Reporter."
- "Northern Reporter."
- I'd like to speak to Mr. Austin.
- I'd like to speak to Mr. Austin.
- Austin here.
This is Jim Fuller.
This is Jim Fuller.
- Ah, what do you want, Fontaine?
- Ah, what do you want, Fontaine?
- You wrote that story about me, didn't you?
- You wrote that story about me, didn't you?
Yes.
- Why?
- Why?
- Well, I'm a newspaper man, Fontaine.
- Well, I'm a newspaper man, Fontaine.
- That was a dirty, rotten thing to do.
Well, I'm sorry you feel that way
Well, I'm sorry you feel that way
about it but I didn't- - Why did you do it?
about it but I didn't- - Why did you do it?
- Look, I don't know you any explanations but I'll tell you.
- Look, I don't know you any explanations but I'll tell you.
Since that night I met you at the police station,
Since that night I met you at the police station,
I've been interested in you.
I wanted to do an honest story on you.
- Honest?
- Honest?
- I wanted to know how a sexual psychopath functions
- I wanted to know how a sexual psychopath functions
when they let him loose.
when they let him loose.
When I saw you that day with Mrs. Leighton,
When I saw you that day with Mrs. Leighton,
I wondered how can a chap who likes little girls-
I wondered how can a chap who likes little girls-
- Damn you!
- Damn you!
- Do you want me to hang up, Fontaine,
or do you want to hear?
And why should you want to know a woman like that?
And why should you want to know a woman like that?
So I found out where she lived.
So I found out where she lived.
I was on her house weekends especially,
I was on her house weekends especially,
and the first weekend that I was there
and the first weekend that I was there
I knew what you were after.
I knew what you were after.
- What do you mean?
Oh, Fontaine.
Oh, Fontaine.
I knew that sooner or later you'd
I knew that sooner or later you'd
be taking that little girl off alone.
be taking that little girl off alone.
- Listen to me, Austin.
I'm gonna sue you and your paper.
- Look, we have enough lawsuits pending
- Look, we have enough lawsuits pending
to pay for half of England and I'll tell you something else.
to pay for half of England and I'll tell you something else.
Very few of them collect.
Very few of them collect.
- I'll collect.
- Will you?
Now, look, you have a record of child seduction.
Now, look, you have a record of child seduction.
You were called in on the Springer case.
You were called in on the Springer case.
- But last Saturday-
- You were with the Leighton girl, weren't you?
You were with the Leighton girl, weren't you?
Holding her hand, buying her ice creams, taking-
Holding her hand, buying her ice creams, taking-
- You lousy-
- You lousy-
- Now, now.
Fontaine, let's not act like a psychopath.
If you wanted to stay out of the papers,
If you wanted to stay out of the papers,
you should've kept your nose clean.
Stayed away from little girls.
Stayed away from little girls.
I didn't think you could though.
I didn't think you could though.
None of you can.
None of you can.
- Listen-
- Oh, I'm listening, Fontaine.
- Oh, I'm listening, Fontaine.
- I want you to...
- I want you to...
- You want me to what?
- I don't know.
- I don't know.
- Yes, Mr. Smith.
Room 23.
Room 23.
Number, please.
- Get me Wellington 2184.
- Get me Wellington 2184.
Sorry, Sir, there seems to be no reply.
Sorry, Sir, there seems to be no reply.
- Let it ring.
Somebody must be there.
Somebody must be there.
Sorry, Sir.
Shall I try again?
Shall I try again?
- Yes, try it again after awhile.
- Yes, try it again after awhile.
Yes?
Still no answer, Sir.
- What time do you make it?
11:15.
11:15.
I'll keep on trying if you like?
I'll keep on trying if you like?
- No, nevermind.
Good morning, Mr Fuller.
Good morning, Mr Fuller.
- Good morning, Inez.
- Good morning, Inez.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello, wrong number.
Good morning.
Good morning.
- I wasn't sure you'd be in.
- I wasn't sure you'd be in.
I saw no reason why not.
I saw no reason why not.
- Now don't let's beat about the bush, Jim.
- Now don't let's beat about the bush, Jim.
All right.
- I was phoned about it last evening.
- I was phoned about it last evening.
Actually, I didn't see the paper until this morning.
Actually, I didn't see the paper until this morning.
I hate that filthy rag.
I hate that filthy rag.
It was Milne who called me.
It was Milne who called me.
I don't mind telling you I slept very little last night.
I don't mind telling you I slept very little last night.
- I didn't do much better.
- I didn't do much better.
- It's barbaric the way they go after a man.
- It's barbaric the way they go after a man.
They hound him and they hound him to death.
- I'm not quite dead yet.
- Jim, will you tell me something?
- Jim, will you tell me something?
How'd it happen that you took Janie to that carnival?
How'd it happen that you took Janie to that carnival?
- Any reason why I shouldn't?
- Any reason why I shouldn't?
- I didn't ask you that.
- Well, Ruth asked me to.
She wanted to cook the dinner.
She wanted to cook the dinner.
I promised Janie we'd take her.
I promised Janie we'd take her.
- I knew that was it.
- Mr. Clive you see-
- Mr. Clive you see-
- And the day that police telephoned me,
- And the day that police telephoned me,
that was the Springer case?
that was the Springer case?
- Yes.
- You must've gone through agonies.
- Mr. Clive, you said we wouldn't beat about the bush.
- Mr. Clive, you said we wouldn't beat about the bush.
- Mr. Clive, you said we wouldn't beat about the bush.
- I've become very fond of you Jim, you know that.
- I've become very fond of you Jim, you know that.
- You're going to fire me, is that it?
- You're going to fire me, is that it?
- It sounds brutal put that way.
- It sounds brutal put that way.
I guess because things are.
I guess because things are.
- That filthy rag, I, I never read it myself
- That filthy rag, I, I never read it myself
- That filthy rag, I, I never read it myself
but there are thousands of people who do.
but there are thousands of people who do.
- They mentioned that I worked here of course.
- They mentioned that I worked here of course.
Yes.
Yes.
Now, if the basis of this organization
Now, if the basis of this organization
wasn't essentially public relations-
wasn't essentially public relations-
- I understand perfectly.
- I understand perfectly.
- Do you really?
- Do you really?
- Yes.
- Yes.
You'd like me to go at once I suppose?
You'd like me to go at once I suppose?
- Jim, I'm in touch with organizations
- Jim, I'm in touch with organizations
of many kinds all over the country.
of many kinds all over the country.
I should like to help you to make a fresh start.
I should like to help you to make a fresh start.
I should like to help you to make a fresh start.
Will you let me?
- Thank you.
- And Jim, there's a check here for two months pay.
- And Jim, there's a check here for two months pay.
Actually, it's for work already done.
Actually, it's for work already done.
Oh, please take it.
- If there's anything about
the report you'd like to discuss-
the report you'd like to discuss-
- Not now, Jim, that won't be necessary.
- Not now, Jim, that won't be necessary.
- I see.
- I see.
Well, if you don't mind,
I'd like to wait here until Ruth comes in.
I'd like to wait here until Ruth comes in.
- She's not coming in today.
She phoned me earlier.
She phoned me earlier.
- Oh.
Goodbye, Mr. Clive.
- Goodbye, Jim.
- Come in, quickly.
- Come in, quickly.
Oh, God, Jim!
Oh, God, Jim!
- Ruth-
- Ruth-
- You look exhausted.
- So do you.
- So do you.
- Come into the kitchen, I'll get you some coffee.
- Come into the kitchen, I'll get you some coffee.
Come.
I waited for you, all last night I waited for you to come.
I waited for you, all last night I waited for you to come.
I waited for you, all last night I waited for you to come.
Come here?
- Yes, why didn't you?
- Yes, why didn't you?
- I phoned 'til after 11 and you were here?
- I phoned 'til after 11 and you were here?
- Let me explain, Jim.
- Let me explain, Jim.
When I got home from the office just after six,
When I got home from the office just after six,
the reporters started calling.
the reporters started calling.
Could I give them a statement?
Could I tell them where you were?
Could I tell them where you were?
They kept talking about "The Northern Reporter."
I hadn't even the slightest idea
what they were talking about.
what they were talking about.
It was Margaret who came over with it.
It was Margaret who came over with it.
Her husband had brought it home.
Her husband had brought it home.
They kept calling and calling,
They kept calling and calling,
asking all kinds of intimate questions
asking all kinds of intimate questions
about you and Janie and me and,
about you and Janie and me and,
it was so terrible I just decided not to answer.
it was so terrible I just decided not to answer.
And by the time I realized that you weren't coming,
that you might be phoning, I just couldn't.
that you might be phoning, I just couldn't.
- And Janie?
- And Janie?
- I sent her over to Margaret's
- I sent her over to Margaret's
and had her stay the night over there.
I just did.
I had to go back to the office.
I had to go back to the office.
Jim, I don't understand.
Jim, I don't understand.
Why did the reporters call here?
The story didn't mention Janie by name.
The story didn't mention Janie by name.
- Austin woulda told 'em.
- Austin woulda told 'em.
- The man we met at the pub?
- The man we met at the pub?
- He'd have been delighted to have
the other papers follow up what he started.
the other papers follow up what he started.
- Jim, why didn't you come?
- Jim, why didn't you come?
- I don't know.
Oh, I'm tired, Ruth.
Oh, I'm tired, Ruth.
- You went to the office?
- You went to the office?
I spoke to Clive. - He told me.
- He was awfully upset.
Did he tell you I was through?
Did he tell you I was through?
- No.
- No.
- I am.
- It took courage to go there.
It took more to come here.
It took more to come here.
- To me?
- I wanted to tell you, Ruth.
- I wanted to tell you, Ruth.
I know that.
I know that.
- Not just the other night, but long before.
- Not just the other night, but long before.
- That is my fault.
- That is my fault.
- No, none of it.
And now in this rotten way.
And now in this rotten way.
- It doesn't matter, Jim.
- It doesn't matter, Jim.
- Doesn't matter?
- Doesn't matter?
Ruth, what might have been possible,
barely possible but...
And now...
This way, I...
This way, I...
And what about Janie?
And what about Janie?
- Janie doesn't know.
There's no reason why she ever should.
There's no reason why she ever should.
- Ruth, you and I are alone perhaps,
- Ruth, you and I are alone perhaps,
but well, Margaret and her husband, what did they say?
but well, Margaret and her husband, what did they say?
but well, Margaret and her husband, what did they say?
You can't even tell me.
- Margaret tried to understand.
- But he couldn't?
- But he couldn't?
There are children on these streets
and they must be protected.
and they must be protected.
Jim!
- Mommy!
- Mommy!
Jim!
Jim!
- Janie, no!
Margaret said you'd be here
Margaret said you'd be here
and you'd have my lunch ready.
- Well, it isn't ready yet, Janie.
- Well, it isn't ready yet, Janie.
Why don't you go over to Margaret's
Why don't you go over to Margaret's
and wait until Mommy calls ya?
and wait until Mommy calls ya?
Will you do that, Janie?
- Yes, Jim.
- Leave it, Jim.
- Leave it, Jim.
- Oh.
- Oh.
Hello.
What time is it anyhow?
What time is it anyhow?
- Listen.
Two.
Do you think it's tolling for me, Doctor?
Do you think it's tolling for me, Doctor?
- This is a hell of an hour in the morning to get literary.
- This is a hell of an hour in the morning to get literary.
Sit down.
- How can you sleep with all this coffee you drink?
- Oh, jokes then?
- Pretty funny I think.
- Pretty funny I think.
- Well, I must admit that I was worried about you,
but I'm not now.
but I'm not now.
- I see you're one of my fans, too, hm?
- I see you're one of my fans, too, hm?
- Oh, that.
The Department told me about that.
The Department told me about that.
It seems that a reporter from one of the dailies phoned him.
It seems that a reporter from one of the dailies phoned him.
He was lookin' for an angle on you that they can use.
He was lookin' for an angle on you that they can use.
And he even suggested that they help him
get an interview with you that he'd see
get an interview with you that he'd see
that his paper handled your case
that his paper handled your case
with sympathy and restraint.
with sympathy and restraint.
Sympathy and restraint.
And this funny man had the nerve to say
And this funny man had the nerve to say
that he thought it would be helpful
if you'd make a statement pleading
if you'd make a statement pleading
with the man who killed Lois Springer to give himself up,
with the man who killed Lois Springer to give himself up,
you know, one sex criminal to another.
you know, one sex criminal to another.
you know, one sex criminal to another.
Only, he said, we'd make it perfectly clear
Only, he said, we'd make it perfectly clear
that you had reformed.
that you had reformed.
Reformed.
Reformed.
- It's a good likeness, anyway.
- It's a good likeness, anyway.
- You cut that out.
- You cut that out.
Now, is that Ruth's daughter?
Now, is that Ruth's daughter?
Now, is that Ruth's daughter?
- Mm hm.
- Mm hm.
- Now, what was goin' on between you two
- Now, what was goin' on between you two
when this picture was taken?
when this picture was taken?
- I was getting ready to assault her on the merry-go-round.
- I was getting ready to assault her on the merry-go-round.
- I was getting ready to assault her on the merry-go-round.
- All right, I'm sorry.
I asked for that, but do you know what I mean.
I asked for that, but do you know what I mean.
- Well, I think it was taken right after she,
- Well, I think it was taken right after she,
- Well, I think it was taken right after she,
she first told me she loved me,
and I had realized for the first time what I felt for her,
and I had realized for the first time what I felt for her,
and I had realized for the first time what I felt for her,
and what a beautiful thing that feeling was.
and what a beautiful thing that feeling was.
Have you been waiting here all this time for me, Doctor?
Have you been waiting here all this time for me, Doctor?
Have you been waiting here all this time for me, Doctor?
- What do you think?
- What do you think?
- Well, Doctor, I...
- Well, Doctor, I...
- Hey, James, come on now.
Come on.
Sit back.
Sit back.
That does it.
Now, here, drink this.
- Hm mm.
- What's the matter, are you offended
- What's the matter, are you offended
that it's not in a glass?
It's good whiskey.
Drink it.
Another.
That's enough.
That's enough.
You may get to like this stuff.
You may get to like this stuff.
Better?
Better?
- Yes.
- Did you eat anything today?
- Did you eat anything today?
- No, I'm not hungry.
- No, I'm not hungry.
I'm a fool.
I'm a sick fool.
I'm a sick fool.
- I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you're neither.
- I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you're neither.
- I haven't cried like this since,
- I haven't cried like this since,
since those first days in prison.
since those first days in prison.
- After the way people probably treated you today, well...
- After the way people probably treated you today, well...
Oh, I called Clive.
He's a human rat.
He's a human rat.
- No, he's not.
- Well, don't you defend him.
He's a mealy mouthed, gutless piece of human being.
He's a mealy mouthed, gutless piece of human being.
- He had to do what he did, don't you see?
- He had to do what he did, don't you see?
- No, I don't see and when
are you gonna start fightin' back?
are you gonna start fightin' back?
- It's easy enough for you to say, Doctor.
- It's easy enough for you to say, Doctor.
- I suppose it is.
Oh, Jimmy, why didn't you come earlier?
Oh, Jimmy, why didn't you come earlier?
Why didn't you come this morning or last night?
Why didn't you come this morning or last night?
- I don't know.
Most of the time I just been runnin' around in circles,
Most of the time I just been runnin' around in circles,
Most of the time I just been runnin' around in circles,
trying to get away from people.
trying to get away from people.
- Pretty hard.
- Yes.
They seem to be everywhere.
They seem to be everywhere.
- It's one of the horrors of our modern cities.
- It's one of the horrors of our modern cities.
- Have you got a cigarette?
- My usual brand.
The way you feel, I suppose you can smoke even these.
The way you feel, I suppose you can smoke even these.
- Doctor, I made up my mind.
I want to go back to prison or to some hospital.
I want to go back to prison or to some hospital.
- Why?
- You know why.
- No, I don't.
- No, I don't.
Tell me.
- Let's not play one of those psychotherapy games on me.
- Let's not play one of those psychotherapy games on me.
Not tonight.
Not tonight.
You tell me what you wanna go back.
You tell me what you wanna go back.
- Because I'm sick,
- Because I'm sick,
because I'm not fit to live around people.
because I'm not fit to live around people.
- You mean that people are afraid
to have you livin' around them.
- What's the difference?
- What's the difference?
- There's quite a bit of difference.
Believe me, if I thought there was the slightest danger
of you bein' sick again, I'd- - There is.
of you bein' sick again, I'd- - There is.
- Jimmy, you're upset and you have
every right to be but just-
every right to be but just-
- Doctor, I want to go back.
- Doctor, I want to go back.
- This girl, Ruth, what happened with her?
- This girl, Ruth, what happened with her?
I see.
- Are you going to send me back?
No.
No.
- What do I have to do?
- What do I have to do?
Do I have to run amuck?
You couldn't run amuck if you wanted to.
- Doctor, please.
- James, people have strange ideas about mental illness.
- James, people have strange ideas about mental illness.
They haven't educated themselves out of the Middle Ages yet.
They haven't educated themselves out of the Middle Ages yet.
- Doctor, do you want me to educate them?
- Doctor, do you want me to educate them?
Do you want me to go through all kinds of hells
so that you can rub your hands together
and say you're making some kind of progress?
and say you're making some kind of progress?
- Sit down, Jim.
- Sit down, Jim.
Well, you're right.
Well, you're right.
I am treatin' ya as a statistic instead of a friend.
I am treatin' ya as a statistic instead of a friend.
- Friend.
- Yes, a friend, not an inmate, not a patient,
- Yes, a friend, not an inmate, not a patient,
not a parolee but a friend and not a manager
not a parolee but a friend and not a manager
you drink a glass of beer with
you drink a glass of beer with
and he slaps you on the back perhaps.
and he slaps you on the back perhaps.
But I have a feeling, if I were in trouble, real trouble,
But I have a feeling, if I were in trouble, real trouble,
you'd break your neck to help me.
you'd break your neck to help me.
Well, wouldn't you?
Well, wouldn't you?
- You know I would.
- Thanks, but you're in trouble now, Jim,
- Thanks, but you're in trouble now, Jim,
and it's not your fault and that's what makes it harder.
and it's not your fault and that's what makes it harder.
That's why I have to talk to ya straight.
That's why I have to talk to ya straight.
Now when I'm finished if you like,
Now when I'm finished if you like,
I'll see to it that you're admitted to a mental institution.
I'll see to it that you're admitted to a mental institution.
Fair enough?
- Fair enough.
- Now, first, you know that you can lead
- Now, first, you know that you can lead
a normal life now don't you?
I mean, Ruth proved that.
Ruth and her daughter or rather,
you proved that yourself with their help.
- I don't wanna talk about them.
- I don't wanna talk about them.
- You proved it once, you can do it again,
- You proved it once, you can do it again,
but if you want to live that life
but if you want to live that life
you have to start now because if you go into an institution,
you have to start now because if you go into an institution,
you have to start now because if you go into an institution,
you'll give up slowly but surely.
you'll give up slowly but surely.
- Instead I'm to go around posing
- Instead I'm to go around posing
for newspaper pictures, is that it?
- Will you stop that?
- Will you stop that?
If you wanna feel sorry for yourself I'm not your man.
If you wanna feel sorry for yourself I'm not your man.
James, don't you understand?
James, don't you understand?
It was the wildest kind of accident that
It was the wildest kind of accident that
that vulture from the newspaper caught up with ya.
that vulture from the newspaper caught up with ya.
- It could happen again.
- It could happen again.
- Sure, it could happen again and you could get hit
- Sure, it could happen again and you could get hit
by a car and you got drown in a bathtub,
by a car and you got drown in a bathtub,
but the chances are enormously against it.
but the chances are enormously against it.
I'm tired, Doc.
- Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy,
- Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy,
you can start again right here if you like.
you can start again right here if you like.
you can start again right here if you like.
Or maybe in another city,
Or maybe in another city,
the department could arrange it.
the department could arrange it.
- And sit on a powder keg
and wait for the next blow up, huh?
- That's a chance you'll have to take,
'cause it's either that or slow deterioration
'cause it's either that or slow deterioration
in some mental ward.
- I don't know.
- I don't know.
- I do.
I do, Jimmy.
There's one more thing, finally,
There's one more thing, finally,
something you know pretty well by now.
something you know pretty well by now.
I can help ya, but I can't solve your problems for ya.
I can help ya, but I can't solve your problems for ya.
I can help ya, but I can't solve your problems for ya.
It's up to you.
How about it, Jim?
- I guess you win, Doctor.
- I guess you win, Doctor.
- I guess you win, Doctor.
- You've got that a little twisted, my friend.
- You've got that a little twisted, my friend.
- You've got that a little twisted, my friend.
What you mean is you win.
What you mean is you win.
- Hello, Jim.
- Hello, Jim.
- Hello, Ruth.
Will you come in?
- I'm sorry to surprise you like this.
- I'm sorry to surprise you like this.
- It's all right.
- I was afraid if I wrote...
- I was afraid if I wrote...
I was sure I would find you here on a Saturday.
I was sure I would find you here on a Saturday.
- Can I get you something?
- No, thank you.
- No, thank you.
- Why, you've had a long trip.
- Why, you've had a long trip.
- I got an early start, it's not too long.
- I got an early start, it's not too long.
It's a nice flat.
It's a nice flat.
- Well, it's not a rooming house
- Well, it's not a rooming house
which is what I like about it.
Nobody bothers you.
- Usually, you mean?
- Usually, you mean?
- How did you know where I lived?
- How did you know where I lived?
- Dr. McNally.
- Clive told you about him?
- Clive told you about him?
- Yes.
I've seen him several times.
I've seen him several times.
- McNally?
- How's your job here, Jim?
- How's your job here, Jim?
- It's all right.
- It's all right.
Clive was a big help, but I suppose you know about that.
Clive was a big help, but I suppose you know about that.
Clive was a big help, but I suppose you know about that.
- I knew you wouldn't want me to come.
- I knew you wouldn't want me to come.
- It was nice of you.
- It was nice of you.
- Do you think that's why I came?
- Do you think that's why I came?
- Please, Ruth.
- Please, Ruth.
- I don't blame you.
- Ruth, whatever the reason don't, please don't feel sorry.
- Ruth, whatever the reason don't, please don't feel sorry.
Just try to forget it.
Just try to forget it.
- Do you think I ever can?
- Do you think I ever can?
I or Janie for that matter?
I or Janie for that matter?
She asked about you, by the way.
She asked about you, by the way.
She asks about you all the time.
She asks about you all the time.
I'm sorry, Jim.
I don't need mean to cry.
All the way down here I said to myself,
All the way down here I said to myself,
All the way down here I said to myself,
no matter what happens, I mustn't-
no matter what happens, I mustn't-
- Please, Ruth.
- Jim, I did that for weeks after you'd left.
- Jim, I did that for weeks after you'd left.
- Jim, I did that for weeks after you'd left.
All my life I thought I was so...
All my life I thought I was so...
- You couldn't help what you did.
- You couldn't help what you did.
- Dr. McNally tried to make me understand that.
- Dr. McNally tried to make me understand that.
- Dr. McNally tried to make me understand that.
At first I didn't want to discuss Janie with him.
At first I didn't want to discuss Janie with him.
At first I didn't want to discuss Janie with him.
I was too ashamed.
I was too ashamed.
I just wanted to forget.
I just wanted to forget.
All I wanted to ask you was to reassure me,
All I wanted to ask you was to reassure me,
All I wanted to ask you was to reassure me,
to convince me that there was no chance of anything.
to convince me that there was no chance of anything.
He refused.
I was furious at him.
I was furious at him.
All he would say is that you're well,
All he would say is that you're well,
and he made me talk about Janie.
and he made me talk about Janie.
Made me tell him what happened.
Made me tell him what happened.
Made me admit.
He can be cruel.
You wouldn't think that at first.
I guess, you know that better than I.
I guess, you know that better than I.
In the end, he told me that it was my problem
In the end, he told me that it was my problem
and that he couldn't solve it for me.
and that he couldn't solve it for me.
Jim?
Do you still want me?
- More than anything in the world.
- More than anything in the world.
You know that.
You know that.
- Yes, but would you hold me and tell me that?
- Yes, but would you hold me and tell me that?
- Yes, but would you hold me and tell me that?
Oh, Jim!
Oh, Jim!
- Ruth, you haven't thought what it would
- Ruth, you haven't thought what it would
- Ruth, you haven't thought what it would
be like being with me.
- I have.
Any minute some of these memories are liable to-
- Any minute some of these memories are liable to-
- As long as we are together.
- As long as we are together.
And Janie?
- I don't know, Jim.
- I don't know, Jim.
I have to be honest.
I have to be honest.
It'll take time.
Maybe a long time.
I would be lying if I said it wouldn't.
I would be lying if I said it wouldn't.
- Yes.
Anyway, there is time now.
Anyway, there is time now.
Lots of time.
Lots of time.
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