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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:31,406 A-Rod is a Shakespearean figure. 2 00:00:35,952 --> 00:00:38,121 He's one of the greatest players who ever played. 3 00:00:41,332 --> 00:00:47,297 Big, strong, good-looking, the whole thing. 4 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:49,841 This guy was an immortal player, 5 00:00:49,924 --> 00:00:54,012 but he also was an incredibly flawed individual. 6 00:00:56,222 --> 00:00:57,974 You know, I say this proudly. 7 00:00:58,058 --> 00:01:00,435 I don't think there's ever been a baseball player 8 00:01:00,477 --> 00:01:04,313 that has loved the game like Alex has. 9 00:01:04,355 --> 00:01:05,982 You could say whatever you want, 10 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,817 say he took this, he took that. 11 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:10,278 At the end of the day, he's gonna put up numbers. 12 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,406 He's gonna hit the baseball. That's what he was born to do. 13 00:01:16,826 --> 00:01:18,828 This wasn't about baseball. 14 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:21,664 I think this was about life. 15 00:01:23,625 --> 00:01:25,376 One thing I've definitely learned in life, 16 00:01:25,460 --> 00:01:27,337 the truth is always gonna come out. 17 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:29,839 It might take 30 years, it might take 2 years, 18 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:31,174 it might take 40 years. 19 00:01:31,257 --> 00:01:33,259 The truth is gonna come out, and you're gonna have 20 00:01:33,343 --> 00:01:35,345 to deal with it at some point. 21 00:01:38,056 --> 00:01:41,976 You know, Alex Rodriguez is just a seminal player. 22 00:01:42,018 --> 00:01:44,687 You know, it comes along once in a generation, 23 00:01:44,729 --> 00:01:46,231 maybe a lifetime. 24 00:01:52,277 --> 00:01:55,532 You take away all the extraneous nonsense, 25 00:01:55,615 --> 00:01:59,661 he's one of the best players who ever lived. 26 00:01:59,702 --> 00:02:02,205 Again, it always begs the question to me... 27 00:02:02,288 --> 00:02:04,374 and I wonder if he's lying alone at night, 28 00:02:04,457 --> 00:02:06,292 looking up at the ceiling... 29 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:08,669 why did I ever do any of it? 30 00:02:13,216 --> 00:02:16,469 Why rich and powerful people cheat, part one. 31 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:23,101 There is an arrogance that often comes with power. 32 00:02:23,184 --> 00:02:25,103 The aura of power surrounding you 33 00:02:25,186 --> 00:02:28,773 makes you feel immune from consequences. 34 00:02:28,857 --> 00:02:32,192 You feel you can do things that mere mortals 35 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:34,070 are forbidden to do. 36 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:37,740 You see other wealthy people living a façade in public 37 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:40,076 and a different life in private. 38 00:02:40,118 --> 00:02:41,828 The key to pulling this off 39 00:02:41,911 --> 00:02:44,706 comes from keeping your public and private life 40 00:02:44,747 --> 00:02:48,251 as separate as possible and creating an image 41 00:02:48,293 --> 00:02:50,962 that shields you from a closer scrutiny. 42 00:02:53,673 --> 00:02:58,595 Yeah, this is a... a train wreck ready to happen. 43 00:02:58,678 --> 00:03:00,263 This whole idea that you're 44 00:03:00,346 --> 00:03:03,099 one person in front of the camera 45 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:08,103 and you're a completely different person off-camera. 46 00:03:08,146 --> 00:03:11,900 And that's exhausting, 'cause you're trying to keep up 47 00:03:11,941 --> 00:03:17,113 with the shit you're trying to get away with. 48 00:03:17,155 --> 00:03:21,451 Not fun, and full of anxiety and stress. 49 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:28,291 And there's a sense, I won't get caught, 50 00:03:28,374 --> 00:03:32,003 'cause you actually think you are better than other people. 51 00:03:32,086 --> 00:03:34,839 There's nothing more stupid than that, right? 52 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,011 You learned that the hard way, though, didn't you? 53 00:03:42,013 --> 00:03:44,140 I did learn that the hard way. 54 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:57,153 And now a great New York tradition, 55 00:03:57,195 --> 00:03:59,656 time to hand out one of New York's 56 00:03:59,697 --> 00:04:02,116 most prestigious honors, 57 00:04:02,158 --> 00:04:04,035 the keys to the city. 58 00:04:09,165 --> 00:04:10,667 I mean, the thing when you win, 59 00:04:10,708 --> 00:04:13,336 especially if you win in a place like New York, 60 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:18,173 there is a celebration tour that can last five months. 61 00:04:18,257 --> 00:04:20,093 And then you're like, okay, this is fun, 62 00:04:20,176 --> 00:04:24,138 but I got a season that I gotta get ready for in 2010. 63 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:27,016 We gotta... we gotta repeat. 64 00:04:27,058 --> 00:04:28,643 Alex, I know it's a cliché, 65 00:04:28,685 --> 00:04:30,228 but what a difference a year makes. 66 00:04:30,311 --> 00:04:32,230 Last year, I remember we sat here 67 00:04:32,313 --> 00:04:34,816 and you were apologizing to the fans and all that. 68 00:04:34,857 --> 00:04:36,977 And I mean, how much different is this season for you? 69 00:04:37,026 --> 00:04:38,653 Well, it's much different. 70 00:04:38,695 --> 00:04:40,839 And, uh, you know, I'm in a much better place right now. 71 00:04:40,863 --> 00:04:42,532 I know that last year, we sat here... 72 00:04:42,573 --> 00:04:45,702 In the past, the pressure for him cracked pipes. 73 00:04:45,784 --> 00:04:50,123 In 2009, the pressure created a diamond. 74 00:04:50,206 --> 00:04:52,292 You know, you just shut everybody up. 75 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:54,877 Everybody that doubted you, everybody that said, 76 00:04:54,919 --> 00:04:57,839 yeah, he's the creation of pharmaceuticals... 77 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,090 he did it. 78 00:05:01,259 --> 00:05:03,219 Now, when spring training was starting, 79 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:05,030 I said, well, he's gonna have a monster year, 80 00:05:05,054 --> 00:05:06,448 because, you know, he's free of everything. 81 00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:08,016 You know, he's won his World Series. 82 00:05:08,057 --> 00:05:09,392 -What do you think? -I hope so. 83 00:05:09,475 --> 00:05:10,685 -Yeah? -I hope so, yeah. 84 00:05:10,727 --> 00:05:12,121 Another MVP, another world championship? 85 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:14,230 The only goal is the same goal we had last year, 86 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,733 was A, to have a lot of fun, play as a team. 87 00:05:16,774 --> 00:05:20,361 And I look forward to defending a world title. 88 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:22,363 -You seem happy. -I am happy. 89 00:05:27,577 --> 00:05:29,454 High drive, center field deep. 90 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:30,747 Going back rows. 91 00:05:30,788 --> 00:05:32,081 Looking up. 92 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:33,291 See ya! 93 00:05:33,374 --> 00:05:34,459 There it is! 94 00:05:34,542 --> 00:05:36,252 Number 600! 95 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:39,088 Alex Rodriguez, the youngest man 96 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:43,259 ever to get to 600 home runs. 97 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:48,097 I felt like the World Series came and went. 98 00:05:48,181 --> 00:05:51,100 And that one is driven deep to left center field. 99 00:05:51,183 --> 00:05:52,935 Going back, Van Every. 100 00:05:52,977 --> 00:05:54,520 On the track, at the wall! 101 00:05:54,604 --> 00:05:55,748 I was basically at the pinnacle 102 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:57,398 of my baseball career. 103 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,317 But, I mean, there was just... 104 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,110 there was a lot going on at the time. 105 00:06:02,737 --> 00:06:05,323 I think a lot comes with success. 106 00:06:05,406 --> 00:06:06,908 I mean, you check on guys, you know. 107 00:06:06,949 --> 00:06:08,618 How are you doing? Everything okay? 108 00:06:10,787 --> 00:06:15,625 I think in 2010, there was a big hangover 109 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:17,543 from winning the World Series. 110 00:06:18,878 --> 00:06:20,963 And Rodriguez caught looking. 111 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:26,511 I had never seen Alex start losing the love of the game, 112 00:06:26,594 --> 00:06:28,638 like not wanting to train as much 113 00:06:28,721 --> 00:06:30,765 or not wanting to practice as much 114 00:06:30,807 --> 00:06:34,018 or not wanting to be around baseball as much, 115 00:06:34,102 --> 00:06:36,270 and that's what I saw happening. 116 00:06:36,312 --> 00:06:41,150 The Texas Rangers, our American League champions! 117 00:06:41,192 --> 00:06:44,153 And I also think that he was struggling 118 00:06:44,195 --> 00:06:48,157 with where he was at a personal level. 119 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:51,159 You know, now you're getting older, the kids are older, 120 00:06:51,202 --> 00:06:52,954 and you're on the road a lot. 121 00:06:52,995 --> 00:06:55,289 And it was tough. His divorce was tough. 122 00:06:55,331 --> 00:06:58,668 We functioned very quickly co-parenting. 123 00:06:58,709 --> 00:06:59,961 The girls, you know, 124 00:07:00,002 --> 00:07:01,271 in order to see him, they have to travel, 125 00:07:01,295 --> 00:07:03,297 and they're so small, so I would travel with them. 126 00:07:03,339 --> 00:07:05,216 He would come back and he would... you know, 127 00:07:05,299 --> 00:07:06,402 if he had a day off, he would come. 128 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:08,678 And he was amazing when he was present. 129 00:07:08,719 --> 00:07:11,889 It's just that those times were just so select. 130 00:07:11,973 --> 00:07:15,476 Valverde deals, and a swing and a miss! 131 00:07:15,518 --> 00:07:18,354 Valverde strikes out Alex Rodriguez, 132 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:20,481 and the Detroit Tigers 133 00:07:20,523 --> 00:07:23,443 are headed to the American League Championship Series... 134 00:07:23,526 --> 00:07:27,280 Something was off with my game, 135 00:07:27,363 --> 00:07:30,741 but it was less about that 136 00:07:30,825 --> 00:07:35,705 and more about self-development. 137 00:07:35,746 --> 00:07:38,499 From the time I was drafted at 17, 138 00:07:38,541 --> 00:07:40,710 six years later, here comes the 252. 139 00:07:40,793 --> 00:07:45,006 Six years later, here comes 275, controversies, 140 00:07:45,047 --> 00:07:46,466 the championship after that. 141 00:07:46,549 --> 00:07:48,384 Everything was moving so fast. 142 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,636 It was a blur. 143 00:07:51,929 --> 00:07:53,973 I could have been really mature on the field 144 00:07:54,056 --> 00:07:57,310 but that doesn't mean that my off-the-field development 145 00:07:57,393 --> 00:07:58,352 was caught up to that. 146 00:07:58,394 --> 00:07:59,729 And there was a huge disconnect. 147 00:08:07,195 --> 00:08:09,405 I had a lot of work to do. 148 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:13,659 As a person, I had a lot of work to do. 149 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:22,251 Around that time, in 2010, 150 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:24,712 I was on a flight with a friend. 151 00:08:24,754 --> 00:08:28,591 I expressed to him that I was going through a tough time. 152 00:08:28,674 --> 00:08:33,763 And he said, well, I have someone you should meet, 153 00:08:33,804 --> 00:08:36,432 but this guy is like nobody you've ever met before. 154 00:08:39,602 --> 00:08:43,940 My first appointment, I flew out to Evergreen, Colorado, 155 00:08:44,023 --> 00:08:46,275 this beautiful small town, 156 00:08:46,317 --> 00:08:48,903 kind of in the middle of nowhere. 157 00:08:55,326 --> 00:08:58,788 It was cold, it was snowing. 158 00:08:58,829 --> 00:09:00,456 I didn't know what to expect. 159 00:09:08,965 --> 00:09:10,800 Oh, man. 160 00:09:12,969 --> 00:09:14,470 Oh. 161 00:09:20,977 --> 00:09:22,812 You know, I never came in this house. 162 00:09:22,853 --> 00:09:25,147 We would always go around to his office. 163 00:09:26,899 --> 00:09:30,111 I mean, it's a bit shocking being back here. 164 00:09:30,152 --> 00:09:32,405 Dr. David has passed, 165 00:09:32,488 --> 00:09:36,033 and that's a tough pill to swallow. 166 00:09:36,117 --> 00:09:38,452 Everything's pretty much the same. 167 00:09:38,494 --> 00:09:42,540 He had his desk, two computers, third one here. 168 00:09:42,623 --> 00:09:46,127 The couch was over here. 169 00:09:46,168 --> 00:09:48,296 We would do our sessions. 170 00:09:48,337 --> 00:09:54,343 And he had a chair right here, and he has a little table. 171 00:09:54,385 --> 00:09:56,053 He would always have, like, water there, 172 00:09:56,137 --> 00:10:00,016 but I never saw him eat anything, drink anything, 173 00:10:00,099 --> 00:10:01,809 or ever go to the bathroom. 174 00:10:01,851 --> 00:10:03,894 So at one point, I asked him, are you human 175 00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:07,315 or are you just a robot with no emotions? 176 00:10:07,356 --> 00:10:10,818 Yeah, he would never laugh at any of my jokes, so. 177 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:12,820 The minute you're around Dr. David, 178 00:10:12,862 --> 00:10:14,196 you just know he's different. 179 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,368 He just... very, very serious person, an academic, 180 00:10:19,410 --> 00:10:23,623 and has done retreats all over the world. 181 00:10:23,706 --> 00:10:24,790 I wish it was a retreat. 182 00:10:24,874 --> 00:10:27,543 It wasn't a retreat. 183 00:10:27,585 --> 00:10:30,212 There's so much significance in this room for me. 184 00:10:33,257 --> 00:10:34,634 I'm just picturing Dr. David. 185 00:10:34,717 --> 00:10:37,762 I mean, I can feel him all over the room. 186 00:10:37,845 --> 00:10:38,929 Interesting. 187 00:10:40,765 --> 00:10:44,894 I think in many ways, it feels like a lab 188 00:10:44,935 --> 00:10:47,605 or a batting cage where I got so much work done. 189 00:10:47,688 --> 00:10:53,402 He described it as rewiring the brain. 190 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:58,407 And he said, if you start this process, you have to finish. 191 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:02,745 You can't stop in the middle, because it'll be even worse. 192 00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:05,706 I was like, okay, this sounds intense. 193 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:09,710 That first session was really about 194 00:11:09,752 --> 00:11:12,213 feeling each other out a little bit. 195 00:11:12,254 --> 00:11:14,066 There was a lot of, like, volleying and back and forth. 196 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:16,926 I'm having a hard time at work. 197 00:11:17,009 --> 00:11:19,289 I'm trying to get all these people to do this and do that, 198 00:11:19,345 --> 00:11:20,763 and they're not doing it. 199 00:11:20,805 --> 00:11:22,431 have you ever thought 200 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:25,101 that you're a terrible leader? 201 00:11:25,142 --> 00:11:27,395 What? 202 00:11:27,436 --> 00:11:29,063 Maybe you don't know how to lead people. 203 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:31,357 Do you think people respect you and trust you? 204 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,025 All right, I need a fucking break. 205 00:11:33,109 --> 00:11:34,276 I'm going to the bathroom. 206 00:11:34,318 --> 00:11:35,903 That was my favorite place to go, 207 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:37,923 'cause it was the only time he would give me a break. 208 00:11:39,365 --> 00:11:41,075 And then I would, like, stall. 209 00:11:43,994 --> 00:11:46,330 Oh, my God, it's so weird. 210 00:11:49,290 --> 00:11:51,961 I mean, he was such a truth-teller, 211 00:11:52,044 --> 00:11:54,630 and I wasn't used to that. 212 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:57,466 He would just throw arrows right between your eyes, right? 213 00:11:57,508 --> 00:11:59,802 Like, when you talk you sound like you're full of shit, 214 00:11:59,844 --> 00:12:00,970 'cause you are. 215 00:12:01,053 --> 00:12:04,473 And, like, in hindsight, I was so fucking slippery, 216 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:06,350 and I'd think I can bullshit him. 217 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:08,102 I'd think I was smarter than him, 218 00:12:08,144 --> 00:12:10,646 and he just would never let me slide. 219 00:12:10,688 --> 00:12:14,483 And he said something to me that was like, 220 00:12:14,525 --> 00:12:19,947 you're so underwater that you can't even see straight, 221 00:12:19,989 --> 00:12:22,450 and you're running out of time. 222 00:12:25,494 --> 00:12:27,496 Like, the fuck does that mean? 223 00:12:39,341 --> 00:12:41,969 I felt like early on, I didn't understand 224 00:12:42,011 --> 00:12:43,846 what I was doing here. 225 00:12:43,929 --> 00:12:49,018 And after the first week, I was flying home. 226 00:12:49,059 --> 00:12:53,314 And I thought to myself, what a fucking waste of my time. 227 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,777 What the hell does Dr. David know? 228 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:03,991 What brought me back? 229 00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:06,869 Well, I wasn't gonna quit. That's what brought me back. 230 00:13:06,911 --> 00:13:09,705 You know, I was so damn stubborn 231 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:11,332 that I'm like, all right now. 232 00:13:11,373 --> 00:13:12,833 It's like facing a tough pitcher. 233 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:15,503 He's not gonna intimidate me, no matter how much... 234 00:13:15,544 --> 00:13:16,962 I know he's trying to drive... 235 00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:19,131 I know he's trying to drive me here, 236 00:13:19,215 --> 00:13:20,800 and he's hoping that I never come back, 237 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:24,178 but I'm gonna come back and make him miserable. 238 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:28,474 And it was just a battle, then I made it a competition, 239 00:13:28,557 --> 00:13:31,227 and that's really what brought me back. 240 00:13:31,268 --> 00:13:32,895 Like, I'm never gonna quit. 241 00:13:36,607 --> 00:13:39,109 That tells you how fucking lost I was. 242 00:13:50,579 --> 00:13:52,414 Jeter at second. One out. 243 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:54,542 3-2 to Rodriguez. 244 00:13:54,583 --> 00:13:57,253 It hit him! Oh, my goodness. 245 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:03,527 Looked like he hit him with the change up, 246 00:14:03,551 --> 00:14:07,555 but Felix's change up is 88 to 90 miles an hour. 247 00:14:07,596 --> 00:14:11,433 And that one, he's in a lot of pain right there. 248 00:14:11,475 --> 00:14:13,036 Alex, you just talked about, yesterday, 249 00:14:13,060 --> 00:14:14,412 how well you were swinging the bat. 250 00:14:14,436 --> 00:14:16,188 How much more difficult is this to take, 251 00:14:16,272 --> 00:14:18,274 how you've been playing offensively lately? 252 00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:20,025 Yeah, it's difficult. 253 00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:24,029 Tough break. 254 00:14:24,113 --> 00:14:27,283 What have they told you as far as the time frame? 255 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:29,410 Haven't told me anything. 256 00:14:29,451 --> 00:14:31,871 Just fractured. 257 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:36,208 Aging is never fun, 258 00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:39,753 especially when you're going through... through injuries. 259 00:14:39,795 --> 00:14:42,256 For so many years, I mean, I could go through a wall 260 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:43,817 and just get back up and just keep playing. 261 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:46,969 Alex Rodriguez is going to have surgery Monday 262 00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:49,346 to repair the torn meniscus in his right knee. 263 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:51,765 I was a workhorse, and I loved to play every day, 264 00:14:51,807 --> 00:14:54,602 and I think those injuries started piling on 265 00:14:54,643 --> 00:14:56,812 and contributing to other injuries. 266 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,314 3-2. 267 00:14:58,355 --> 00:15:00,190 -Popped up. -On the change up. 268 00:15:00,274 --> 00:15:02,276 And Alex, frustrated, slams the bat. 269 00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:03,879 Ooh, looks like something might have happened 270 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,863 right there coming out of the box. 271 00:15:05,946 --> 00:15:07,281 Little wince. 272 00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:08,633 You think after he slammed the bat, 273 00:15:08,657 --> 00:15:09,843 or something with his leg, John? 274 00:15:09,867 --> 00:15:11,368 As I got into my mid-30s, 275 00:15:11,452 --> 00:15:13,787 all those surgeries and rehabs, 276 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:15,706 they started definitely getting to me. 277 00:15:15,789 --> 00:15:19,835 I had knee surgery in '99, I believe, my left side. 278 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:22,630 And it was a pretty simple recovery, 279 00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:23,756 so I'm hoping for the same. 280 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:25,674 Except I'm a little older now. 281 00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:29,970 I wanted to be able to get out of bed and not be in pain. 282 00:15:30,012 --> 00:15:32,848 And I just wanted, in the worst way, just to be able to play 283 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:36,894 and, you know, post up every day for my team. 284 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:47,404 Post-World Series, my... 285 00:15:47,488 --> 00:15:49,531 a person that was close to me 286 00:15:49,573 --> 00:15:52,368 kept saying, hey, I know you don't feel good. 287 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,161 You're not sleeping as good. 288 00:15:54,203 --> 00:15:56,705 You should meet this guy that I wanna introduce you to. 289 00:15:59,124 --> 00:16:03,754 We're down in St. Pete playing the Rays. 290 00:16:03,837 --> 00:16:06,382 He says, hey, that guy's here. 291 00:16:06,465 --> 00:16:09,259 He actually has a clinic right down the street. 292 00:16:09,343 --> 00:16:13,055 If you wanna see him, I can bring him up to the room. 293 00:16:13,138 --> 00:16:16,725 And that's when I met Tony for the first time. 294 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,143 His hair wasn't brushed. 295 00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:20,229 He looked like he hadn't slept much. 296 00:16:20,312 --> 00:16:22,856 I was like, who is this guy? 297 00:16:22,898 --> 00:16:24,191 He said he was a doctor. 298 00:16:24,233 --> 00:16:25,877 He's like, why don't you take off your shirt? 299 00:16:25,901 --> 00:16:27,587 So I take off my shirt. He's like, oh, yeah. 300 00:16:27,611 --> 00:16:29,422 Oh, you need a lot of help. You need a lot of work. 301 00:16:29,446 --> 00:16:31,407 You need a lot of work. Where does it hurt? 302 00:16:31,448 --> 00:16:33,867 He starts moving my leg around a little bit. 303 00:16:33,909 --> 00:16:37,204 And basically I said, I'm not sleeping that great, 304 00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:41,417 my metabolism is not that good, um, 305 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:44,003 and I'm not recovering well at all. 306 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:46,380 He's like, I have something for you. 307 00:16:46,422 --> 00:16:48,090 And he said, HGH. 308 00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:52,261 And I said, okay, tell me more. 309 00:16:52,302 --> 00:16:55,055 He goes, well, you just put it in your stomach, 310 00:16:55,097 --> 00:16:56,890 and you'll be able to sleep better. 311 00:16:56,932 --> 00:16:58,267 You're gonna recover better. 312 00:16:58,350 --> 00:17:00,102 It's good for your skin. 313 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:03,313 Men and women use it. 314 00:17:03,397 --> 00:17:05,816 Athletes and non-athletes use it. 315 00:17:05,898 --> 00:17:09,153 So there's... I'm getting a little bit of an education. 316 00:17:09,236 --> 00:17:11,571 And I was like, nah, you know, I'm good, I'm good. 317 00:17:11,613 --> 00:17:13,240 I don't need to do that. 318 00:17:13,281 --> 00:17:16,952 And then probably a few weeks later, 319 00:17:16,993 --> 00:17:18,829 they were both asking me, like, you know, 320 00:17:18,912 --> 00:17:20,789 why not give it a try? 321 00:17:20,873 --> 00:17:23,041 At that point, I knew that if I did this, 322 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:26,462 I would be breaking a Major League Baseball rule. 323 00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:27,963 So I kept saying no. 324 00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:33,135 But I wanted to get out there so badly and play. 325 00:17:33,218 --> 00:17:35,763 The Yankees are paying me a shitload of money. 326 00:17:35,804 --> 00:17:37,139 There's an embarrassment, 327 00:17:37,222 --> 00:17:38,640 looking your teammates in the eyes 328 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:41,977 and not being able to play every day. 329 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:46,648 At the time, I knew it was a very, very risky thing to do. 330 00:17:46,690 --> 00:17:49,568 But if this is actually gonna make me feel better 331 00:17:49,651 --> 00:17:54,490 and help me get out of bed and help me not be in pain, 332 00:17:54,573 --> 00:17:56,617 then fuck it. 333 00:17:56,658 --> 00:17:59,203 I'll risk it. 334 00:17:59,286 --> 00:18:02,206 I went into it like, okay, I just do this 335 00:18:02,289 --> 00:18:03,665 for the rest of the year, for like, 336 00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:05,167 a month or month and a half. 337 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:07,503 And hopefully, you know, this off season, 338 00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:10,380 my hip can feel better, and I can never look back, you know? 339 00:18:10,464 --> 00:18:14,009 And then once I tried it... 340 00:18:14,051 --> 00:18:17,179 you're in the wrong side, 341 00:18:17,262 --> 00:18:20,307 and you broke a Major League Baseball rule. 342 00:18:20,349 --> 00:18:26,105 So I knew I did it, 343 00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:30,359 and I knew that I was breaking a rule. 344 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,212 And it was like that moment where you go too far, 345 00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:37,032 and you're just like, oh, can't take it back now. 346 00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:39,952 A report published in the "Miami New Times" 347 00:18:40,035 --> 00:18:42,287 says this clinic, called Biogenesis, 348 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:45,958 was a pipeline to PEDs for several players. 349 00:18:46,041 --> 00:18:48,043 The first time I hear of Biogenesis 350 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:49,711 is when someone calls my phone. 351 00:18:49,753 --> 00:18:53,006 They told me that, you know, some guy was owed money 352 00:18:53,048 --> 00:18:55,509 and he was gonna whistle blow the people 353 00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:57,845 that were involved in Biogenesis. 354 00:18:57,886 --> 00:19:00,597 I'm around Alex a lot, 355 00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:04,059 and I had never seen that guy ever around Alex. 356 00:19:04,101 --> 00:19:06,228 I think Alex was probably embarrassed 357 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:09,064 that the guy was around and he'd keep him hidden. 358 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:12,234 I don't think Alex ever went to the clinic. 359 00:19:12,276 --> 00:19:14,778 I think that guy Tony went to see Alex. 360 00:19:14,862 --> 00:19:17,698 At the time, I'd never even heard of this publication. 361 00:19:17,739 --> 00:19:19,551 It wasn't like "The New York Times" or anything. 362 00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:23,245 So I was like, maybe it's a 24-hour story, or 48 hours. 363 00:19:23,287 --> 00:19:27,082 But it certainly wasn't that. 364 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:29,543 Alex Rodriguez among 20 players 365 00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:33,172 believed to be connected to a now-closed Miami-area clinic. 366 00:19:33,255 --> 00:19:36,049 The highest-paid player in the history of baseball 367 00:19:36,091 --> 00:19:38,677 might be one step away from losing it all. 368 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,929 And then that's when all hell broke loose. 369 00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:42,097 -A-Rod. -A-Rod. 370 00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:43,265 A-Rod. 371 00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:44,933 What in the world is A-Rod thinking? 372 00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:46,435 It took off like a wildfire. 373 00:19:46,518 --> 00:19:50,397 A-Rod insisted he stopped doping back in 2004, 374 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:52,524 and that he's always been clean as a Yankee. 375 00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:54,693 -I was stunned. -I was shocked. 376 00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:56,612 I was kind of ticked off at him. 377 00:19:56,695 --> 00:19:58,238 You know, why would you do this again? 378 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,949 I was his biggest supporter. I like him personally. 379 00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:04,578 After what happened in '09, the test and everything, 380 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:05,996 why would you go there again? 381 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:08,415 Could this theoretically be the end 382 00:20:08,457 --> 00:20:10,417 of A-Rod in Yankee pinstripes? 383 00:20:10,459 --> 00:20:13,295 It was just an avalanche of, like, bad news, 384 00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:15,130 worse news, awful news. 385 00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:16,632 The penalties are the penalties. 386 00:20:16,673 --> 00:20:17,966 50 games, a hundred games, 387 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,676 three strikes and you're out. 388 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:25,182 I was like, oh, man, I did it this time. 389 00:20:27,392 --> 00:20:30,229 A-Rod became, especially the second time around, 390 00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:31,813 the poster boy for steroid abuse. 391 00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:32,814 He really did. 392 00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:34,942 Is baseball gonna get serious or not? 393 00:20:34,983 --> 00:20:37,319 This is a major watershed for Major League Baseball. 394 00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:39,613 And I think A-Rod deserves the brunt of all of this. 395 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,573 This has been a shadow that has been 396 00:20:41,657 --> 00:20:44,284 over Major League Baseball for a couple of decades. 397 00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:47,829 They didn't handle this thing right from the beginning. 398 00:20:47,871 --> 00:20:49,831 If you go back, they were sitting here 399 00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:52,334 with a bunch of star players 400 00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:54,836 who had cheated. 401 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,064 You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes 402 00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:58,173 to find these guys, okay? 403 00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:00,467 Everybody knew 404 00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:02,511 what those guys were doing, 405 00:21:02,552 --> 00:21:06,848 and they couldn't ever get the genie back in the bottle. 406 00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:09,518 Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you'll give 407 00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:11,788 before this committee will be the truth, the whole truth, 408 00:21:11,812 --> 00:21:13,230 and nothing but the truth? 409 00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:14,916 Finally, there comes a point where Congress 410 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:18,068 gets involved and smacks baseball around, 411 00:21:18,151 --> 00:21:19,987 and smacks Selig around. 412 00:21:20,028 --> 00:21:23,532 And then you got these guys like Palmeiro and McGwire 413 00:21:23,573 --> 00:21:25,867 and Sosa embarrassing themselves, 414 00:21:25,951 --> 00:21:27,887 and Selig says, you know what? I've had enough of this. 415 00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:29,413 We're gonna get tough. 416 00:21:29,496 --> 00:21:31,540 I decided to do this investigation 417 00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:33,667 so that no one could ever say 418 00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:36,336 that baseball had something to hide. 419 00:21:36,378 --> 00:21:39,047 Because I certainly did not. 420 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:43,343 Baseball now was gonna be really hard on everybody 421 00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:45,470 after being so lax. 422 00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:48,390 I tried reaching out to Bud Selig 423 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:50,017 and just get in front of him one-on-one 424 00:21:50,058 --> 00:21:52,394 and talk this thing through before lawyers got involved 425 00:21:52,477 --> 00:21:53,979 and all this other stuff. 426 00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:57,190 I asked for two meetings, and he said no twice. 427 00:21:57,232 --> 00:22:00,652 I was scared 'cause I knew this time around, 428 00:22:00,736 --> 00:22:03,447 they were gonna come after us like there's no tomorrow. 429 00:22:03,530 --> 00:22:05,574 Commissioner Selig told Rob Manfred 430 00:22:05,657 --> 00:22:08,785 to do what he had to do to get to the bottom of the scandal. 431 00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:14,374 Biogenesis then became, I would say, a circus act. 432 00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:18,795 MLB had investigators down here knocking on doors, 433 00:22:18,879 --> 00:22:20,255 trying to get documents. 434 00:22:20,297 --> 00:22:21,715 People were paying people off. 435 00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:24,426 I have private investigators all over the office, 436 00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:28,764 people following our receptionist in the car, 437 00:22:28,805 --> 00:22:30,932 a helicopter over our building. 438 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:33,018 I mean, there's just nowhere to hide, 439 00:22:33,101 --> 00:22:34,895 and it just kept getting bigger and bigger. 440 00:22:34,936 --> 00:22:36,605 They did things that you're saying, 441 00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:38,565 baseball can't be doing this stuff. 442 00:22:38,607 --> 00:22:43,111 I mean, they bought stolen evidence to try and get him. 443 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:46,448 A gentleman had the Biogenesis documents, 444 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:47,699 and we bought them. 445 00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:48,742 How much? 446 00:22:48,784 --> 00:22:50,786 $100,000. 447 00:22:50,869 --> 00:22:53,080 I'm not saying A-Rod didn't make his bed. 448 00:22:53,121 --> 00:22:54,539 He did. 449 00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:56,291 But it was a good way to show the public 450 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:58,126 that they were gonna cleanse the sport. 451 00:22:58,168 --> 00:22:59,461 And it was an easy mark. 452 00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:02,214 He made himself an easy mark. He really did. 453 00:23:04,174 --> 00:23:07,302 Some breaking news tonight within Major League Baseball. 454 00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,596 We are learning that baseball is about to announce 455 00:23:09,638 --> 00:23:12,474 its most sweeping set of suspensions 456 00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:14,684 for use of performance-enhancing drugs. 457 00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:19,147 At some point, they finished their investigation, 458 00:23:19,189 --> 00:23:20,524 and now we were just on wait mode 459 00:23:20,607 --> 00:23:23,193 to see what the penalties were gonna be. 460 00:23:23,276 --> 00:23:28,657 And you heard anything from 50 games to lifetime ban. 461 00:23:28,698 --> 00:23:34,913 So I remember the day and the call. 462 00:23:34,996 --> 00:23:37,332 The phone rang, 463 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:41,420 and it was Tony Clark, the head of the union. 464 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,630 He goes, just wanna let you know 465 00:23:43,672 --> 00:23:46,007 we got the suspension number. 466 00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:48,927 And he said, it's 211 games. 467 00:23:51,346 --> 00:23:53,640 And I said, 211 games? 468 00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:55,308 I said, Tony, how can that be possible? 469 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:56,768 Like, I'm 40. 470 00:23:56,852 --> 00:23:59,187 That means that I'm done. 471 00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:00,981 They've... I'm retired. 472 00:24:01,022 --> 00:24:04,151 And then I said, did everyone get the same, 211? 473 00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:07,487 And he said, no, everyone else got 50 games. 474 00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:12,200 And, uh... and I said, so how... we're all in the same union. 475 00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:13,910 We all made the same mistake. 476 00:24:13,994 --> 00:24:15,412 How does one get 50 477 00:24:15,495 --> 00:24:17,164 and somebody else gets more than 4X? 478 00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:20,417 What they have said is that they have what they believe is 479 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,586 a convincing case against A-Rod 480 00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:25,881 that includes not only his use of performance-enhancing drugs, 481 00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,884 but that he tried to subvert their investigation into it, 482 00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:31,720 and maybe even tried to recruit some other players. 483 00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:33,555 And that, for all those reasons, 484 00:24:33,638 --> 00:24:36,516 his penalty will be more severe than the others. 485 00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:38,560 It was confusing, because on one end I made... 486 00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:41,730 I made the mistake, and I should be penalized. 487 00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:46,067 But I kept hearing his voice, 211, 211. 488 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:50,822 I'm like, I couldn't even comprehend, at 39, 489 00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:53,992 40 years old, how you can be suspended 490 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:56,411 for a year and a half. 491 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,205 Now a Yankees official tells me 492 00:24:58,246 --> 00:25:00,874 they do expect him to appeal any suspension, 493 00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:02,834 which means that his case will be heard, 494 00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:04,836 then determined, by an arbitrator. 495 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,088 It could take over a month to settle. 496 00:25:07,130 --> 00:25:09,716 Of course, I have to fight back. 497 00:25:09,758 --> 00:25:12,594 I almost felt like I had no choice. 498 00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:15,639 In one big scoop, it was like, okay, no Hall of Fame, 499 00:25:15,722 --> 00:25:18,642 lifetime suspension, and the Yankees 500 00:25:18,725 --> 00:25:21,102 were still on the hook for over $100 million. 501 00:25:21,144 --> 00:25:22,646 I will say this... 502 00:25:22,729 --> 00:25:25,065 there's more than one party that benefits from me 503 00:25:25,106 --> 00:25:26,900 not ever stepping back on the field, 504 00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:30,946 and that's not my teammates, and it's not the Yankee fans. 505 00:25:30,987 --> 00:25:34,074 So the fight was no longer about, did I do it? 506 00:25:34,115 --> 00:25:37,994 The fight is like, this is an overreach, and why? 507 00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:39,621 And what's the agenda? 508 00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:43,416 Just look at the scenario. 509 00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:44,793 A-Rod stays on the field. 510 00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:47,128 He plays during an appeals process. 511 00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:49,965 But what happens every time he takes the field? 512 00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:52,467 Isn't all the talk gonna be about steroids, 513 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:53,802 scandal, and A-Rod? 514 00:25:53,843 --> 00:25:56,221 Alex, do you have anything to say about what happened? 515 00:25:56,304 --> 00:25:57,931 Oh, there's no question about that. 516 00:25:57,973 --> 00:25:59,474 It's gonna be a circus tonight. 517 00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:02,644 But if A-Rod is smart about this, 518 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:06,273 his comments are gonna be as conciliatory as possible, 519 00:26:06,314 --> 00:26:08,483 and he's gonna keep saying, we'll just let 520 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,443 the appeal play itself out. 521 00:26:12,487 --> 00:26:15,156 Guys, do we have any water anywhere? 522 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,659 -We can get... get you some. -Okay. 523 00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:23,164 Hey, could you grab a water? 524 00:26:23,206 --> 00:26:25,125 Could you grab a water? Thank you. 525 00:26:27,043 --> 00:26:28,211 Go ahead. 526 00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:29,671 Steve and Dave. 527 00:26:29,754 --> 00:26:32,066 Alex, in 2009, you asked fans to judge you from that point 528 00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:34,301 forward in your press conference at spring training. 529 00:26:34,342 --> 00:26:35,903 What would you say to them now, the people who 530 00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:37,345 took you on your word then? 531 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:39,806 Well, I... I would tell them that, you know, 532 00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:41,016 please have some patience. 533 00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:42,350 Let this process play out. 534 00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:43,810 You didn't deny the charges. 535 00:26:43,852 --> 00:26:45,770 Do you deny that you use PEDs? 536 00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:47,606 Like I said, I think we'll have a forum 537 00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:49,190 to discuss all of that. 538 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:51,776 If you didn't use PEDs, why don't you just say it? 539 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:54,654 I... there's a lot of things that have been thrown 540 00:26:54,696 --> 00:26:56,781 to the wall, and at some point, 541 00:26:56,865 --> 00:27:01,202 we'll sit in front of an arbiter and give it our... 542 00:27:01,244 --> 00:27:02,454 give our case. 543 00:27:02,537 --> 00:27:04,456 And that's as much as I feel comfortable 544 00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:07,292 telling you right now. 545 00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:11,171 Like anything else, you gotta just put your blinders on and... 546 00:27:11,212 --> 00:27:13,173 and do your job. 547 00:27:13,214 --> 00:27:17,552 On the outside, it appears that Alex Rodriguez 548 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:20,597 is dealing with it, managing, playing baseball. 549 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,059 But so much swirling around him right now. 550 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,227 The only place he can't get asked the question... 551 00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:27,562 unless it's by an umpire... 552 00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:29,022 about something is on the field. 553 00:27:29,064 --> 00:27:31,566 Everywhere else he goes, he goes home and watches TV, 554 00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:34,194 any sports channel is talking about Alex. 555 00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:37,864 Now batting for New York, the third baseman, 556 00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:42,077 number 13, Alex Rodriguez. 557 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:49,376 I was somewhat prepared for that type of reaction, 558 00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:51,586 because at that point, 559 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:54,673 I'd been going to opponents' ballpark 560 00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:56,424 and getting booed everywhere. 561 00:27:56,466 --> 00:27:59,386 That's just par for the course. 562 00:28:11,481 --> 00:28:12,691 But this was different. 563 00:28:12,774 --> 00:28:14,960 This wasn't about, like, hey, you're gonna beat my team. 564 00:28:14,984 --> 00:28:17,987 This was like, hey, I don't like you. 565 00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:19,114 So it was different. 566 00:28:24,244 --> 00:28:26,644 Well, this is the first time we've seen something like this 567 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,958 since Alex Rodriguez returned, and I think we can say 568 00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,252 with some certainty what the intent was after Dempster 569 00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:34,462 hit him on the 3-0 pitch. 570 00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:36,131 I mean, this is a little bit unusual. 571 00:28:36,172 --> 00:28:37,590 It's uncomfortable. 572 00:28:37,632 --> 00:28:41,094 You knew this was gonna happen at some point. 573 00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:42,762 And it affected you. 574 00:28:42,804 --> 00:28:44,699 -Yeah, but on the field... -I'm okay on the field. 575 00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:45,883 It's kind of a strange thing. 576 00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:49,352 Like, on the field, I can roll with anything. 577 00:28:51,563 --> 00:28:52,939 Now he hits a deep drive. 578 00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:56,276 Straightaway center field, and gone! 579 00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:00,822 He's hit a lot of them in his career, 580 00:29:00,864 --> 00:29:03,908 but I bet you he enjoyed that one more than most. 581 00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:05,994 It was a hard day today, that's for sure. 582 00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:06,995 A long day. 583 00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:08,663 How angry were you when you got hit? 584 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,498 Yeah, I was pissed off. 585 00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,251 Another hit for Rodriguez. 586 00:29:13,334 --> 00:29:15,020 Considering how many players have spoken out 587 00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:16,397 about you playing through your suspension, 588 00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,465 are you concerned about this moving forward? 589 00:29:18,506 --> 00:29:20,341 My hardest time was off the field. 590 00:29:20,383 --> 00:29:21,944 You know, dealing with all the distractions. 591 00:29:21,968 --> 00:29:23,511 It's been crazy. 592 00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,072 I'm gonna do my very best to focus on baseball. 593 00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:27,056 Every day there was, like, 20 different stories. 594 00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:31,686 Calling you all these names, calling you Pablo Escobar, 595 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,730 calling you Whitey Bulger. 596 00:29:33,813 --> 00:29:36,524 Somebody else said there's a RICO case open, 597 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:38,902 like, all these kind of 598 00:29:38,985 --> 00:29:40,570 very aggressive allegations. 599 00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:42,655 I mean, we live in a world where people believe 600 00:29:42,697 --> 00:29:44,699 everything they read. 601 00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:47,160 And I'm like, dude, I just crossed the line. 602 00:29:47,202 --> 00:29:48,536 But like, I'm not Whitey Bulger. 603 00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,830 Like, I've never committed a crime in my life. 604 00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:53,208 Alex Rodriguez here has created a stir 605 00:29:53,249 --> 00:29:55,710 as he made his way to the batter's box. 606 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,378 That was tough for us. 607 00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:00,131 My job, I said before, was to try to limit distraction, 608 00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:04,511 and in this particular case, I mean, how do you stop it? 609 00:30:04,552 --> 00:30:05,720 I feel bad, like I said. 610 00:30:05,762 --> 00:30:07,442 I mean, I'd much rather not be sitting here 611 00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:09,140 talking about suspensions. 612 00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:11,893 I'd rather be sitting here talking about a baseball game. 613 00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:14,395 -It's official... -Alex Rodriguez is no longer 614 00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:16,397 on speaking terms with the Yankees front office 615 00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:19,400 because of the possibility of a looming lawsuit. 616 00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:22,403 Alex Rodriguez taking aim at Major League Baseball, 617 00:30:22,487 --> 00:30:23,767 accusing them of a smear campaign 618 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,740 to destroy his reputation. 619 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,283 He's suing people. 620 00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:28,594 He's suing Major League Baseball, 621 00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,411 and threatened to sue the Yankees. 622 00:30:30,453 --> 00:30:32,789 He's going down with guns blazing. 623 00:30:32,872 --> 00:30:37,919 It was a war against the union, the owners, the league. 624 00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:39,546 And I was right in the middle of it. 625 00:30:39,587 --> 00:30:42,382 It's a little like watching an accident in slow motion 626 00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:44,092 over the last couple of weeks. 627 00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:45,426 You know when the event is over, 628 00:30:45,468 --> 00:30:46,553 somebody's gonna be hurt. 629 00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:48,263 You don't know whether it's just A-Rod, 630 00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:52,892 the Yankees, Major League Baseball, or all of the above. 631 00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:54,214 Yeah, it was a soap opera, man. 632 00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:57,522 I mean, it was a complete mess. 633 00:30:57,605 --> 00:31:00,692 'Cause it was long and nasty and expensive 634 00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,737 and, without a question, the worst time of my life. 635 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:08,032 Strike three. 636 00:31:08,116 --> 00:31:10,451 And then we went to arbitration 637 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,036 and fought that 211. 638 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,746 Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez 639 00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:16,207 goes before a Major League Baseball arbitrator today 640 00:31:16,291 --> 00:31:19,544 to argue that his 211-game suspension 641 00:31:19,627 --> 00:31:22,422 should be called off. 642 00:31:22,463 --> 00:31:25,967 They lay out their case, we lay out our case, 643 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,844 but we didn't get anywhere. 644 00:31:27,927 --> 00:31:31,931 I mean, they... they kicked our ass publicly 645 00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:33,850 and in... and in the courtroom. 646 00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:35,643 It was revealed during arbitration 647 00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:40,481 the Rodriguez team admitted paying $305,000 for evidence. 648 00:31:40,523 --> 00:31:42,358 You know, obviously, when it first happens, 649 00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:44,819 you're gonna do whatever you gotta do 650 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:48,156 to try to make things what's supposedly right. 651 00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:53,995 We had hired an attorney who hired, I guess 652 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:56,831 an investigative company. 653 00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,459 And that investigative company said 654 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,921 that there was a hard drive that was available 655 00:32:03,004 --> 00:32:06,633 that had a series of information on it, 656 00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:09,010 and if we wanted to... to buy it. 657 00:32:09,052 --> 00:32:10,178 And we said yes. 658 00:32:10,219 --> 00:32:12,847 Was there any valuable information on that? 659 00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:14,349 It was blank. 660 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:17,769 I mean, at the end of the day, I'm a ballplayer, 661 00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:19,354 and I didn't know how to handle it. 662 00:32:19,395 --> 00:32:20,855 It was... it was difficult. 663 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:23,816 Rodriguez wanted MLB's commissioner, Bud Selig, 664 00:32:23,858 --> 00:32:26,653 to testify during this arbitration. 665 00:32:26,694 --> 00:32:29,822 Well, today, the arbitrator decided 666 00:32:29,864 --> 00:32:31,699 Selig does not have to testify. 667 00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:33,868 -How do you force the issue? -We don't. 668 00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:35,912 I mean, you know, we can't, you know, 669 00:32:35,995 --> 00:32:38,247 go kidnap him in Milwaukee and bring him here. 670 00:32:38,331 --> 00:32:41,250 I remember feeling angry and frustrated. 671 00:32:41,334 --> 00:32:43,711 You know, if you're gonna give me a lifetime ban 672 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:47,548 or give me a 211 ban, I mean, we deserve to hear from you. 673 00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:52,887 But when he didn't show up, I knew we were cooked. 674 00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:59,310 ♪ Sports Radio 66 and 101.9 FM, WFAN ♪ 675 00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:02,021 -A-Rod, welcome. How are you? -I've been better. 676 00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:03,564 Tell me what happened today. 677 00:33:03,606 --> 00:33:05,191 Well, we got a ruling that, uh, 678 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,902 the commissioner does not have to come in from Milwaukee. 679 00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:09,570 And I lost my mind. 680 00:33:09,612 --> 00:33:13,032 I banged a table and kicked a briefcase 681 00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:15,243 and slammed out of the room and... and just 682 00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:16,911 felt like the system... 683 00:33:16,953 --> 00:33:20,498 I knew it was restricted, and I knew it wasn't fair. 684 00:33:20,581 --> 00:33:21,582 But what we saw today... 685 00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:23,751 A-Rod is his own worst enemy. 686 00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:26,337 He always has been. 687 00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:29,757 He's got a flaw. 688 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,260 PEDs... they said you did mountains of PEDs. 689 00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:33,761 -Did you do any? -No. 690 00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:36,097 Did you obstruct a witness? 691 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,200 -There was no obstruction. -There was no intimidating. 692 00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:39,743 -There was none of that. -None of this? 693 00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:40,768 None of that. 694 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:42,895 So they don't... there's not one thing you did? 695 00:33:42,937 --> 00:33:44,313 No. 696 00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:46,482 Hey, I'd be fighting, too, if that's the case. 697 00:33:46,566 --> 00:33:48,276 He didn't say no quietly. 698 00:33:48,317 --> 00:33:52,655 He came to my show and swore up and down, on the air, 699 00:33:52,739 --> 00:33:54,258 off the air, that he was telling the truth. 700 00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:56,075 It's outrageous if you're lying, 701 00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:58,262 and it's outrageous if they're wrong and they didn't... 702 00:33:58,286 --> 00:33:59,370 you didn't do anything. 703 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:01,039 That's even more outrageous. 704 00:34:01,122 --> 00:34:03,583 So somebody's really badly wrong here. 705 00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:07,462 I said, you realize that if you're lying, 706 00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:09,422 you're never gonna climb out of this. 707 00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:13,467 And he was in such a, you know, belligerent mood. 708 00:34:13,509 --> 00:34:16,304 That day, all he wanted to do was tear Selig's head off. 709 00:34:16,344 --> 00:34:21,266 The man from Milwaukee that put this suspension on me 710 00:34:21,309 --> 00:34:23,811 with... with not one bit of evidence, 711 00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:26,813 something I didn't do, he doesn't have the courage 712 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,358 to come look at me in the eye and tell me, 713 00:34:29,442 --> 00:34:31,152 this is why I did 211? 714 00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:33,529 I shouldn't serve one inning. 715 00:34:33,612 --> 00:34:36,949 And I felt like in many ways, while I was guilty, 716 00:34:36,991 --> 00:34:39,159 I thought I was backed into a corner. 717 00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:40,870 Think about what I've been through. 718 00:34:40,953 --> 00:34:43,164 If you are any other player of the 13 players, 719 00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:45,500 with what I've been through, do you think anybody's 720 00:34:45,541 --> 00:34:46,958 gonna fight Major League Baseball? 721 00:34:47,001 --> 00:34:49,462 I don't think anybody has the money to do it, first of all. 722 00:34:49,504 --> 00:34:52,507 I don't think he's vindictive. 723 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:55,051 I don't think he's hateful. 724 00:34:55,134 --> 00:35:01,432 I think he just doesn't get it sometimes. 725 00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:03,202 I didn't know if you were innocent or guilty, 726 00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:04,826 because let's be honest, we know hundreds 727 00:35:04,852 --> 00:35:06,187 of baseball players did steroids. 728 00:35:06,229 --> 00:35:07,915 And you did steroids once, so I don't know if you 729 00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,149 did steroids again or not. That's your business. 730 00:35:10,191 --> 00:35:11,776 I knew what I was doing, and I thought 731 00:35:11,859 --> 00:35:13,194 I can thread the needle. 732 00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:17,281 And, you know, Bud Selig said, no way. 733 00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:20,660 You are gonna get suspended for 211 games. 734 00:35:20,701 --> 00:35:22,870 This has been a disgusting process for everyone, 735 00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:25,039 and I'm more embarrassed than anyone 736 00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:27,125 to be on the front pages in the news. 737 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:29,127 This is the game that I love more than anything, 738 00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:32,755 and I feel like, this is what I have my PhD in, is baseball. 739 00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:37,760 Even in his darkest day, I felt bad for him. 740 00:35:37,844 --> 00:35:41,389 I probably shouldn't have, but I did, 741 00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:43,891 because I saw a vulnerability there. 742 00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:46,185 Hey, I appreciate you coming in. 743 00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:48,604 And I guess we'll find out what's gonna happen. 744 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:51,107 This is obviously not the end of this by any stretch. 745 00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:54,235 He didn't see, I don't think, 746 00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:57,363 any other way out at that point. 747 00:35:57,405 --> 00:36:00,616 It's like he had gone too far with the story 748 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,912 to change the story, until he had no choice 749 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:07,165 but to change the story. 750 00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:15,882 Yesterday, one of the best baseball players of all time 751 00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:19,552 was hit with the longest doping suspension in history. 752 00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:21,846 After a contentious private hearing, 753 00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:24,348 Major League Baseball's arbitration judge 754 00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:27,101 took the Yankee third baseman out of the game 755 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:28,519 all of next season. 756 00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:31,939 In my judgment, his actions 757 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:36,485 were beyond comprehension. 758 00:36:36,569 --> 00:36:40,573 You put all the drug things on one side, 759 00:36:40,615 --> 00:36:45,912 and then all the things that he did to, in my... 760 00:36:45,953 --> 00:36:48,247 impede our investigation. 761 00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:52,293 I think 211 games was a very fair penalty. 762 00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:59,467 I was so pissed when I saw Bud Selig not show up 763 00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:02,803 for the arbitration, not show up when I called 764 00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,972 for a man-to-man meeting alone, 765 00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:07,141 but he shows up on "60 Minutes." 766 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:09,769 And I was just like, okay, this is... 767 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:11,312 it is what it is. 768 00:37:11,395 --> 00:37:15,650 You know, thank God the arbiter dropped it to 162. 769 00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:17,652 His attorney tells ABC News 770 00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:19,570 he will file a new lawsuit 771 00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:21,113 to overturn A-Rod's historic 772 00:37:21,155 --> 00:37:23,658 162-game suspension, 773 00:37:23,741 --> 00:37:25,243 handed down by an arbitrator 774 00:37:25,326 --> 00:37:26,786 this weekend. 775 00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:28,913 You know when you keep running from a problem, 776 00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:30,748 and you want the thing to go away, 777 00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:32,333 the only way it's gonna go away 778 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,001 is when you face the music and it's over. 779 00:37:34,043 --> 00:37:37,546 That's basically where we were at. 780 00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:40,508 Four- or five-hour phone calls with lawyers 781 00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:46,681 for eight, nine months, it takes a toll on you. 782 00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:48,349 You start asking yourself, 783 00:37:48,432 --> 00:37:50,393 with everything you have gone through, 784 00:37:50,476 --> 00:37:51,811 where you've come from, 785 00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:53,729 what you've been able to accomplish, 786 00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:56,899 and everything we're doing, where are we? 787 00:37:56,983 --> 00:38:00,403 You put yourself into this mess. 788 00:38:00,486 --> 00:38:03,656 You gotta take ownership for yourself. 789 00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:09,287 Good people in my life that... 790 00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:10,538 that were trying to help me. 791 00:38:10,621 --> 00:38:16,043 But the one that stands out is... 792 00:38:16,085 --> 00:38:17,420 is Jim Sharp. 793 00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:21,048 I like him. 794 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,718 He has been a good friend to me, and I have to him. 795 00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:26,637 He's been tested. 796 00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:31,517 And this steroid problem, 797 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:35,062 I think, was the depth for him. 798 00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:37,565 Jim has a very good relationship with... 799 00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:39,233 with Rob Manfred. 800 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,404 He called me, and at this time, he wasn't representing me yet. 801 00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:47,783 And he said, Alex, I'm concerned because 802 00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:54,850 not only are you ruining your baseball career, 803 00:38:54,874 --> 00:38:57,918 but you're starting to screw up your life. 804 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,131 You can find yourself, as they say, in a hole, 805 00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:04,592 and if you do, quit digging. 806 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:06,635 It looked to me like by lawyering up 807 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,472 and filing a bunch of lawsuits, 808 00:39:09,555 --> 00:39:11,891 what we were doing was nurturing it. 809 00:39:11,932 --> 00:39:14,435 I told him, you know, you've got to understand, 810 00:39:14,518 --> 00:39:16,604 this is serious, of course, 811 00:39:16,645 --> 00:39:18,564 but it's not a crime or anything. 812 00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:21,275 This is a rule in baseball, 813 00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:23,944 and you don't have to treat it so seriously 814 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:26,447 that you're trying to impress the client 815 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:29,241 by being assertive and... 816 00:39:29,283 --> 00:39:33,287 and aggressive. 817 00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:36,540 In fact, from the beginning, I thought the best way 818 00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:43,589 to do this was to back away and let it get some hair on it. 819 00:39:45,007 --> 00:39:47,760 I called him back and I said, hey, I need your help. 820 00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:52,306 I'm certain I'm done with my baseball career, 821 00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:56,852 but can you help me get my life back together? 822 00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:59,188 And he said, yeah. 823 00:39:59,271 --> 00:40:01,023 If it's okay with you, let me call 824 00:40:01,107 --> 00:40:03,526 Rob Manfred in the morning. 825 00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:06,821 The next morning, I had a meeting with the commissioner. 826 00:40:06,862 --> 00:40:08,656 He said, what can I do for you? 827 00:40:08,697 --> 00:40:11,992 I said, I understand you've finished your investigation. 828 00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:13,119 Yeah, he said. 829 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,413 Lord, I'm so glad that it's done. 830 00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:17,164 I said, I'll tell you what you can do. 831 00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:19,333 You can let me see it. 832 00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:21,919 He asked me, he said, what are you up to? 833 00:40:22,002 --> 00:40:27,925 I said, let me see it, 834 00:40:28,008 --> 00:40:30,594 and I think within 48 hours, 835 00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:33,514 I'm going to start dismissing all these cases, 836 00:40:33,597 --> 00:40:35,850 if I can get the authority to do it. 837 00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:39,687 I looked at it about five minutes. 838 00:40:39,728 --> 00:40:41,605 That was all I needed. 839 00:40:43,941 --> 00:40:46,861 I left and I called Alex. 840 00:40:46,902 --> 00:40:49,238 And he said, I think I have a plan together. 841 00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:50,906 We should put all these lawsuits 842 00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:53,325 and just put them down. 843 00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:57,413 And then that's exactly when I threw up the white flag. 844 00:40:57,496 --> 00:40:59,874 It's been revealed that the Yankees third baseman has 845 00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:02,710 withdrawn his lawsuit against Major League Baseball, 846 00:41:02,751 --> 00:41:05,754 the commissioner Bud Selig, and the Players Association, 847 00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:08,215 which for all intents and purposes signals his surrender 848 00:41:08,257 --> 00:41:11,844 and acceptance of the 162-game suspension 849 00:41:11,886 --> 00:41:12,887 that was handed down... 850 00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:15,222 -I said, that's it. -It's over. 851 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:19,018 This is a fucked-up way to end a pretty good career. 852 00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:22,813 For the first time in 20-plus years, 853 00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:23,957 I wasn't in spring training. 854 00:41:23,981 --> 00:41:27,860 And then I started seeing the games start, 855 00:41:27,902 --> 00:41:29,653 and I'm watching every night on YES Network. 856 00:41:29,737 --> 00:41:34,909 I was like, this is really strange. 857 00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:44,043 I remember waking up one night, and I'm like, 858 00:41:44,084 --> 00:41:47,379 I'm the only dumb-ass in the world 859 00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:50,424 that has pocket aces 860 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:53,135 and figures out a way how to lose the hand. 861 00:41:53,219 --> 00:41:55,304 I mean, you have hundreds of millions 862 00:41:55,387 --> 00:41:57,097 of dollars guaranteed to you. 863 00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:00,267 You have three MVPs, you have a world championship. 864 00:42:00,351 --> 00:42:01,769 Your legacy is cemented. 865 00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:05,064 You're going straight to the Hall of Fame. 866 00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:07,316 And then I crossed the line, 867 00:42:07,399 --> 00:42:09,818 and I caused myself all of that, 868 00:42:09,902 --> 00:42:11,779 plus the embarrassment and the shame 869 00:42:11,862 --> 00:42:14,573 and my reputation. 870 00:42:16,158 --> 00:42:20,079 I cringe when I think about how much I've hurt myself, 871 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,748 and I have no one to blame but myself. 872 00:42:25,209 --> 00:42:27,086 And... 873 00:42:32,007 --> 00:42:37,054 Yeah, I mean, looking back at it now, it was like... 874 00:42:37,137 --> 00:42:40,140 why? 875 00:42:40,182 --> 00:42:41,976 Yeah. 876 00:43:13,215 --> 00:43:15,026 I'll never forget, I was looking at those mountains, 877 00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:18,637 and it felt like, you're never gonna be able to climb it. 878 00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:20,431 And to a degree, I was like, why am I here? 879 00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:22,224 I've already ruined everything. 880 00:43:25,352 --> 00:43:28,147 It was a blessing that I had started with Dr. David 881 00:43:28,188 --> 00:43:31,650 prior to the Miami news article breaking. 882 00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:35,362 It was good to have him by my side at that time. 883 00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:37,448 We spent hours and hours and hours 884 00:43:37,531 --> 00:43:43,370 on the Yankees, the suspension, Bud Selig. 885 00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:46,999 There was so much hate there. 886 00:43:47,041 --> 00:43:48,459 I was really angry inside. 887 00:43:48,542 --> 00:43:50,210 Still, I wasn't, like, at that place 888 00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:54,214 where I was accepting everything. 889 00:43:54,256 --> 00:43:59,386 Dr. David would, like, put a quick stop to that and just... 890 00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,430 he would always turn it back to me and says, 891 00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:04,433 what was your... what was your part in this? 892 00:44:04,516 --> 00:44:10,856 And at first, I just really rejected that way of thinking. 893 00:44:12,149 --> 00:44:15,235 I wasn't thinking clearly. 894 00:44:15,277 --> 00:44:17,571 I was, um... 895 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,203 I was the victim. 896 00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:25,412 And just missing things. 897 00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:28,415 Just, like, not seeing things. 898 00:44:28,499 --> 00:44:31,210 Well, Major League Baseball had something against me, 899 00:44:31,251 --> 00:44:36,090 versus, like, I screwed up, and they were doing their jobs. 900 00:44:36,131 --> 00:44:39,760 And if I didn't screw up, even if they wanted to hurt me, 901 00:44:39,843 --> 00:44:41,345 they... they couldn't hurt me. 902 00:44:43,597 --> 00:44:48,602 And how there's a cause and effect of my actions, you know? 903 00:44:48,644 --> 00:44:53,232 And then, you know, months, months, and years later, 904 00:44:53,273 --> 00:44:55,776 I started feeling like, okay. 905 00:44:55,859 --> 00:45:01,073 I understand exactly what happened here, and it's on me. 906 00:45:01,115 --> 00:45:03,575 But that was a long bridge to walk, 907 00:45:03,617 --> 00:45:05,619 a lot of work, a lot of time. 908 00:45:08,872 --> 00:45:12,960 I mean, we went all the way back to... to birth, 909 00:45:13,001 --> 00:45:15,129 early days in New York. 910 00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,925 He said, tell me about Victor. 911 00:45:19,967 --> 00:45:21,593 Oh, well, Victor, man, he was... 912 00:45:21,635 --> 00:45:23,762 I was on that couch right there. 913 00:45:23,804 --> 00:45:28,726 Oh, Victor, he was really smart, good-looking, 914 00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:30,728 really good with numbers, loved baseball. 915 00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:33,313 We used to love playing baseball together. 916 00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:38,819 He said, man, you're so full of shit. 917 00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:40,821 Which I was, 'cause I was dancing around it. 918 00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,322 I was still kind of bullshitting, 919 00:45:42,364 --> 00:45:45,909 like, protecting my dad. 920 00:45:45,993 --> 00:45:48,829 The first time that it hit me, like, hard 921 00:45:48,912 --> 00:45:54,293 was when I would have to go and do my writing assignments. 922 00:45:55,878 --> 00:45:57,546 He would give me homework assignments, 923 00:45:57,629 --> 00:46:00,507 and I would have to come up with vignettes 924 00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:05,512 where I would have these mock conversations with my father. 925 00:46:05,596 --> 00:46:10,350 And I would tell him, I'm a terrible writer, so. 926 00:46:10,392 --> 00:46:13,228 And he says, it's not the point about how good of a writer 927 00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:14,730 you are, it's about your emotions. 928 00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:18,150 So I said, okay. 929 00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:23,155 Now, I'm, like, eight years old here, okay? 930 00:46:23,197 --> 00:46:27,159 How are you, my son? 931 00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:29,870 I say, I'm not doing well, Dad. 932 00:46:29,953 --> 00:46:31,455 Why not, son? 933 00:46:31,538 --> 00:46:33,165 Because you abandoned us... 934 00:46:33,207 --> 00:46:35,167 Mom, Joe, Suzy, me. 935 00:46:35,209 --> 00:46:37,377 When we needed you most, you left us. 936 00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:38,837 I was only ten. 937 00:46:38,879 --> 00:46:41,215 My father... that's not the case at all, son. 938 00:46:41,256 --> 00:46:42,466 I love you. 939 00:46:42,549 --> 00:46:45,719 You're my prince, my number one. 940 00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:47,554 I say, really? 941 00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,306 You're full of shit, Dad. 942 00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:52,810 My dad says, but son, I've always loved you. 943 00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:55,145 We were attached at the hip when we lived in New York 944 00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:59,066 and DR from age one to ten. 945 00:46:59,107 --> 00:47:03,070 Then your mom, Miami, it was tough, you know? 946 00:47:03,111 --> 00:47:06,156 Look, I don't expect you to understand this. 947 00:47:09,117 --> 00:47:12,871 These are the things that occurred back then. 948 00:47:12,913 --> 00:47:16,542 I say, Victor... not Dad, Victor... 949 00:47:16,583 --> 00:47:17,584 stop. 950 00:47:17,626 --> 00:47:18,794 You're bullshitting me. 951 00:47:18,877 --> 00:47:20,546 You're full of shit. 952 00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:23,090 You've done it for 43 years. 953 00:47:23,131 --> 00:47:26,635 Enough is enough. 954 00:47:26,718 --> 00:47:28,846 You've lied to me from day one. 955 00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:30,722 That's why I'm so full of shit myself. 956 00:47:30,764 --> 00:47:32,349 I grew up around it. 957 00:47:32,432 --> 00:47:35,269 I thought I can get away with everything like you, 958 00:47:35,310 --> 00:47:37,437 bullshit myself through life. 959 00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:39,773 My dad says, what are you talking about? 960 00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:43,443 How about 2014, my full-year suspension for using PEDs, 961 00:47:43,527 --> 00:47:45,863 then acting like a fucking asshole, 962 00:47:45,946 --> 00:47:47,739 doubling down, blaming everyone? 963 00:47:47,781 --> 00:47:49,783 Sounds familiar yet? 964 00:47:49,825 --> 00:47:53,704 Does it remind you of anyone, Dad? 965 00:47:53,787 --> 00:47:57,040 Dads says, I'm gonna go now. 966 00:47:57,124 --> 00:47:58,125 Hmm. 967 00:48:05,299 --> 00:48:07,092 Of course you are. 968 00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:09,136 That's par for the course. 969 00:48:11,179 --> 00:48:13,181 Except for one big difference. 970 00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:22,649 This time, I'm ready. Goodbye. 971 00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:24,484 Don't fucking come back. 972 00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:32,284 Let's hit it. 973 00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:44,087 I always bring up the guys who have it really together... 974 00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:48,634 Jeter, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. 975 00:48:48,675 --> 00:48:52,763 Very strong families, very strong parenting. 976 00:48:52,846 --> 00:48:54,181 A-Rod didn't have that. 977 00:48:58,852 --> 00:49:00,652 I think when you don't have a sense of self, 978 00:49:00,687 --> 00:49:04,858 and you're a young person trying to fit in, 979 00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:10,322 you could take the path of adjusting your personality, 980 00:49:10,364 --> 00:49:12,199 your likes and dislikes and your behavior, 981 00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:15,869 according to the company that you keep. 982 00:49:15,953 --> 00:49:19,373 I think he was kind of an immature guy. 983 00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:22,042 He missed a lot of developmental steps, 984 00:49:22,084 --> 00:49:24,044 when you're in your 20s, and suddenly 985 00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:27,506 you're making so much money and you're a big deal, 986 00:49:27,547 --> 00:49:29,424 and that's hard. 987 00:49:29,508 --> 00:49:32,052 That's really hard for people, I think. 988 00:49:32,135 --> 00:49:36,682 And if they don't have this solid foundation of people 989 00:49:36,723 --> 00:49:38,684 in their lives... 990 00:49:38,725 --> 00:49:41,895 maybe a father figure, for Alex, who was missing... 991 00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:45,565 it is very destabilizing to have that level 992 00:49:45,607 --> 00:49:47,609 of fame and attention. 993 00:49:49,236 --> 00:49:53,073 So I think all these things contribute to... 994 00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:58,578 to maybe not feeling completely secure in who you are. 995 00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:02,416 From the age of 19, for 162 nights, 996 00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:04,459 he was on TV for three and a half hours, 997 00:50:04,543 --> 00:50:06,253 and you were watching him. 998 00:50:06,336 --> 00:50:08,422 And then you followed him into the locker room 999 00:50:08,505 --> 00:50:11,091 for another 45 minutes, and you were watching him. 1000 00:50:11,174 --> 00:50:13,885 We didn't know how to handle his fame, 1001 00:50:13,927 --> 00:50:16,054 'cause there's not a playbook to it. 1002 00:50:16,096 --> 00:50:19,099 And so it was... it was trying for all of us in that respect. 1003 00:50:19,141 --> 00:50:22,227 You know, the difference between Alex and I is, 1004 00:50:22,269 --> 00:50:25,731 I learned a lot playing with my dad, 1005 00:50:25,772 --> 00:50:27,607 watching him. 1006 00:50:27,691 --> 00:50:29,109 You know, how to set up pitchers, 1007 00:50:29,151 --> 00:50:31,903 how to be a pro, how to do all these things. 1008 00:50:31,945 --> 00:50:36,116 I'm looking at someone that I look like 1009 00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,746 and who loves me for me... not for what I do, just for me. 1010 00:50:40,787 --> 00:50:43,290 When I was in Little League, I used to always look 1011 00:50:43,373 --> 00:50:44,708 for my parents in the stands, 1012 00:50:44,791 --> 00:50:45,935 and it just made me comfortable. 1013 00:50:45,959 --> 00:50:47,478 It was the same thing when I was in the Major Leagues. 1014 00:50:47,502 --> 00:50:50,464 I looked for my parents. It made me comfortable. 1015 00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:53,216 I think it comes back to the kid whose dad wasn't there. 1016 00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:54,760 He chases acceptance. 1017 00:50:54,801 --> 00:50:57,054 He wants to be accepted, and he wants to be loved. 1018 00:50:57,137 --> 00:51:00,974 And you keep score with success, homers and RBIs 1019 00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:03,977 and batting average, maybe money. 1020 00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:09,816 He wanted so much to be respected and loved. 1021 00:51:09,858 --> 00:51:11,318 And he wanted everything, 1022 00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:14,154 and he seeks it in the worst ways, 1023 00:51:14,196 --> 00:51:17,991 the worst ways, that backfired terribly. 1024 00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:20,994 I mean, it's just part of him, and I think that's... 1025 00:51:21,036 --> 00:51:23,997 in a lot of ways, it's been his curse. 1026 00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:25,683 I just don't think he had that perspective 1027 00:51:25,707 --> 00:51:27,060 or that parent to, like, pull him aside 1028 00:51:27,084 --> 00:51:28,335 and say, what are you doing? 1029 00:51:28,376 --> 00:51:30,670 That's where the self-confidence comes in 1030 00:51:30,712 --> 00:51:33,465 and the groundedness and the rootedness of somebody's, 1031 00:51:33,507 --> 00:51:35,550 like, moral fiber. 1032 00:51:35,634 --> 00:51:39,096 And he was lacking in those areas. 1033 00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:41,306 He just was. 1034 00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:44,643 I don't know, they might have still gone that way. 1035 00:51:44,684 --> 00:51:47,354 Maybe his father didn't have skills 1036 00:51:47,395 --> 00:51:49,022 that he would have needed. 1037 00:51:49,064 --> 00:51:50,607 Maybe he didn't. 1038 00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:52,335 Maybe he wouldn't have suffered the loss of his dad 1039 00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:54,861 but maybe he wouldn't have been aggressively trying 1040 00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:56,530 to become the best he could. 1041 00:51:56,571 --> 00:51:58,657 Otherwise, I mean, who knows, right? 1042 00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:03,703 I'm not sure if I would have accomplished what I did 1043 00:52:03,745 --> 00:52:07,999 on the field with a present father, 1044 00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:11,711 but I certainly think that having a present father 1045 00:52:11,753 --> 00:52:13,380 would have helped me avoid 1046 00:52:13,421 --> 00:52:17,759 some of the dumb-ass decisions that I've made. 1047 00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:32,274 Being here, like, at ground zero, just keeps you honest. 1048 00:52:32,357 --> 00:52:39,072 And I would say that my entire mission, post-Dr. David, 1049 00:52:39,114 --> 00:52:41,491 basically comes down to two things, 1050 00:52:41,575 --> 00:52:44,661 and I think about these two things every single day. 1051 00:52:44,744 --> 00:52:51,543 One is decreasing, diminishing your ego, 1052 00:52:51,585 --> 00:52:54,504 and the other one is increasing self-awareness. 1053 00:52:57,841 --> 00:53:02,137 Before Dr. David, it was opposite. 1054 00:53:04,931 --> 00:53:07,726 And Dr. David, we would always tell each other, 1055 00:53:07,767 --> 00:53:12,063 watch me here and don't let me get slippery. 1056 00:53:12,105 --> 00:53:14,941 Making sure you're saying what you mean and mean what you say, 1057 00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:17,068 like, all these things are... 1058 00:53:17,110 --> 00:53:20,071 they sound, like, so basic. 1059 00:53:20,113 --> 00:53:25,410 But the truth of the matter was, they weren't basic to me. 1060 00:53:28,455 --> 00:53:31,958 Thank God that I finally learned, 1061 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,795 'cause if I didn't, I wouldn't be here. 1062 00:53:42,677 --> 00:53:44,888 I thought you were so much better 1063 00:53:44,971 --> 00:53:46,449 once we got on the real road, after the reps. 1064 00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:47,992 I thought you were gonna say than Tashi. 1065 00:53:49,851 --> 00:53:51,144 I... I am though, right? 1066 00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:52,538 Actually, I think at this point, 1067 00:53:52,562 --> 00:53:54,940 you're more advanced than Tashi. 1068 00:53:54,981 --> 00:53:56,942 When I served my suspension, 1069 00:53:56,983 --> 00:53:59,611 one of the most pivotal moments 1070 00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:03,615 was when I sat Natasha and Ella down in my office, 1071 00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:06,076 and I'm telling them what happened 1072 00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:08,453 and why I'm serving a suspension. 1073 00:54:10,163 --> 00:54:16,127 It was really important for me to be as honest as I can be 1074 00:54:16,169 --> 00:54:20,006 for an 11 and 7-year-old. 1075 00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:23,969 And not bullshit them, because I never wanted them 1076 00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:27,973 to feel like they have to bullshit Dad. 1077 00:54:28,014 --> 00:54:31,685 And I remember they both gave me a hug. 1078 00:54:31,726 --> 00:54:34,980 And they said, uh, 1079 00:54:35,021 --> 00:54:37,315 don't worry, Dad, you can do this. 1080 00:54:37,357 --> 00:54:40,151 And Ella, who was five, said, 1081 00:54:40,193 --> 00:54:43,363 Dad, you don't need anybody's help. 1082 00:54:43,446 --> 00:54:46,157 You can still hit home runs. 1083 00:54:49,869 --> 00:54:51,180 He's always said to me, he's like, 1084 00:54:51,204 --> 00:54:52,289 you can tell me anything. 1085 00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:55,709 Whatever you're going through, I've done worse. 1086 00:54:55,792 --> 00:54:58,336 And so he's like, I don't care what you try, 1087 00:54:58,378 --> 00:54:59,689 what experience you have with people. 1088 00:54:59,713 --> 00:55:01,381 He's like, I've done worse. 1089 00:55:01,464 --> 00:55:03,717 And so that's always kind of been like a safety blanket. 1090 00:55:07,387 --> 00:55:10,015 All phones, everything's disconnected here, right? 1091 00:55:10,056 --> 00:55:11,558 -Like, no... -Yes, Dad. 1092 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,393 Snap, WhatsApp, none of the messages. 1093 00:55:13,476 --> 00:55:14,477 Okay, here we go. 1094 00:55:14,561 --> 00:55:15,705 You need your full attention. 1095 00:55:15,729 --> 00:55:17,063 You're gonna go straight. 1096 00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:20,233 I do think he's become so much more aware. 1097 00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:23,194 From what I've heard about him back in those years 1098 00:55:23,236 --> 00:55:25,739 was that, like, he just, like, could not put his pride aside, 1099 00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:27,240 was just a mess, kind of. 1100 00:55:27,324 --> 00:55:28,783 Like, I... he's even showed me, like, 1101 00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:30,368 old clips and stuff of him speaking, 1102 00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:31,911 and it's just not the same person. 1103 00:55:31,995 --> 00:55:35,081 Like, he's truly, like, evolved in that sense. 1104 00:55:35,123 --> 00:55:37,250 -That's good. -That was a little jerky beef. 1105 00:55:37,292 --> 00:55:40,211 What? 1106 00:55:40,253 --> 00:55:43,465 I think when for a big part of your life, 1107 00:55:43,548 --> 00:55:46,760 you're a narcissist... 1108 00:55:46,801 --> 00:55:50,263 and I say I'm a recovering narcissist. 1109 00:55:52,098 --> 00:55:57,854 That was foreign for me, to, uh... 1110 00:55:57,937 --> 00:56:00,315 lean into being a father. 1111 00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:04,861 Quite honestly, I don't know if I could be a good parent 1112 00:56:04,944 --> 00:56:06,279 without Dr. David. 1113 00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:09,115 I didn't have a dad that I can copy and paste. 1114 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:15,246 I was, like, shooting darts in the... in the dark, 1115 00:56:15,288 --> 00:56:17,791 hoping for the best. 1116 00:56:17,832 --> 00:56:22,629 And he helped every facet of my life. 1117 00:56:22,712 --> 00:56:26,508 He made me a better baseball player, a better teammate, 1118 00:56:26,591 --> 00:56:31,304 more humble, full of gratitude. 1119 00:56:34,432 --> 00:56:37,102 And we thought about quitting baseball. 1120 00:56:37,143 --> 00:56:40,980 It was like, maybe I just try to piece my life back together 1121 00:56:41,022 --> 00:56:43,483 but maybe just disappear and not... 1122 00:56:43,525 --> 00:56:45,985 and not play again. 1123 00:56:46,027 --> 00:56:47,254 I thought it was obvious the Yankees 1124 00:56:47,278 --> 00:56:50,281 didn't want me to come back. 1125 00:56:50,323 --> 00:56:51,950 You never have to face the music again. 1126 00:56:51,991 --> 00:56:54,285 You don't have to face your demons. 1127 00:56:54,327 --> 00:56:56,913 You don't have to go back to stadiums and get booed, 1128 00:56:56,996 --> 00:57:00,417 and I would've disappeared. 1129 00:57:06,047 --> 00:57:07,924 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1130 00:57:08,007 --> 00:57:11,719 I didn't wanna be remembered for my darkest moment. 1131 00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:18,268 I thought, after being body-slammed at 40 years old, 1132 00:57:18,351 --> 00:57:21,855 broken down, when nobody thinks I can do it... 1133 00:57:24,232 --> 00:57:26,025 That the comeback matters too. 1134 00:57:30,029 --> 00:57:31,865 That season was probably the single most 1135 00:57:31,948 --> 00:57:33,908 important season in my life. 1136 00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:38,079 And I'll never forget this. 1137 00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:41,040 As I drove to the stadium, I made a promise to myself... 1138 00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:43,710 whether I go 4 for 4 or 0 for 4, 1139 00:57:43,751 --> 00:57:45,920 I'm gonna enjoy it, 1140 00:57:46,004 --> 00:57:49,174 because I do not know when they're gonna 1141 00:57:49,215 --> 00:57:52,051 take the uniform away again. 1142 00:57:52,093 --> 00:57:56,890 ♪ You know it's been a long, long road ♪ 1143 00:57:56,931 --> 00:58:00,143 This is his first appearance in a big league game 1144 00:58:00,226 --> 00:58:03,313 since the end of 2013. 1145 00:58:03,396 --> 00:58:05,648 I never thought we'd see him again, ever. 1146 00:58:05,732 --> 00:58:08,151 I thought he'd never play again. 1147 00:58:08,234 --> 00:58:10,114 I thought he'd never be in the public eye again. 1148 00:58:12,906 --> 00:58:15,825 That one is driven out to right center, and A-Rod gets 1149 00:58:15,909 --> 00:58:18,036 his first hit of the season. 1150 00:58:19,621 --> 00:58:22,332 But, you know, Alex does have... 1151 00:58:22,415 --> 00:58:25,710 he's got cubes. 1152 00:58:25,752 --> 00:58:27,587 High drive, left field. 1153 00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:29,088 There it goes! 1154 00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:31,216 I'm 40 years old. 1155 00:58:31,257 --> 00:58:32,425 I'm out of jail. 1156 00:58:32,467 --> 00:58:34,427 I'm a fucking New York Yankee. 1157 00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:36,137 -Here's the throw. -Here's the play. 1158 00:58:36,221 --> 00:58:38,598 -Nice! -He's in there! 1159 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,393 And I went out and had one of the best years of my career. 1160 00:58:42,435 --> 00:58:45,813 This one is off the top of the wall, and gone! 1161 00:58:45,897 --> 00:58:47,482 He tried to make amends with people, 1162 00:58:47,565 --> 00:58:51,152 and he also accepted blame. 1163 00:58:51,236 --> 00:58:54,280 If he tried to, like, A-Rod himself through it, 1164 00:58:54,364 --> 00:58:55,674 I don't think it would have worked, 1165 00:58:55,698 --> 00:58:58,117 but I think he was pretty genuine. 1166 00:58:58,201 --> 00:58:59,786 1-1. 1167 00:58:59,827 --> 00:59:02,205 Lined into right center field. That's a base hit. 1168 00:59:02,288 --> 00:59:03,456 It'll go to the wall! 1169 00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:05,250 That'll tie the score. 1170 00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:11,798 Number 660. 1171 00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:17,095 Home run number 661 breaks the tie with Willie Mays, 1172 00:59:17,136 --> 00:59:18,137 and it breaks the tie... 1173 00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:19,806 You come back from a year's suspension 1174 00:59:19,847 --> 00:59:22,225 and have 33 home runs. 1175 00:59:22,308 --> 00:59:24,143 It shows how great the guy is. 1176 00:59:24,185 --> 00:59:25,186 Pop fly ball. 1177 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:26,479 Deep down the center. 1178 00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:28,273 There it goes! 1179 00:59:28,314 --> 00:59:29,482 Yeah! 1180 00:59:29,566 --> 00:59:31,276 A grand slam. 1181 00:59:33,027 --> 00:59:34,821 I said, you're Lazarod. 1182 00:59:34,862 --> 00:59:36,489 You just rose from the dead. 1183 00:59:36,531 --> 00:59:38,533 People don't come back from this. 1184 00:59:38,616 --> 00:59:42,996 He's only the second man in history to get 2,000 RBIs. 1185 00:59:43,037 --> 00:59:45,331 Not only does he come back, but he's come back 1186 00:59:45,415 --> 00:59:48,501 more popular than ever before. 1187 00:59:48,543 --> 00:59:49,794 He was dead! 1188 00:59:49,836 --> 00:59:53,172 There's no coming back from that, and somehow he did. 1189 00:59:53,214 --> 00:59:54,841 ♪ Find your way back ♪ 1190 00:59:54,924 --> 00:59:56,342 It's carrying. 1191 00:59:56,426 --> 00:59:59,012 It's back near the wall, and just like Derek Jeter, 1192 00:59:59,095 --> 01:00:02,015 his 3,000th hit is a home run. 1193 01:00:04,726 --> 01:00:07,103 ♪ Find your way back ♪ 1194 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,658 I'm on a journey of being 1195 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,997 a man with integrity and character, and someone that... 1196 01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:28,583 that you can bet on and you can trust. 1197 01:00:28,666 --> 01:00:33,880 You can go a whole lifetime without changing a fucking 5%. 1198 01:00:33,963 --> 01:00:37,550 And the fact that I've changed so much, 1199 01:00:37,592 --> 01:00:42,221 I can only credit Dr. David for putting up with me. 1200 01:00:44,807 --> 01:00:50,229 So even though Dr. David is not around anymore, 1201 01:00:50,313 --> 01:00:53,066 he still lives in me. 1202 01:00:53,149 --> 01:00:55,443 If Dr. David was here, I'd be ragging on him, 1203 01:00:55,526 --> 01:00:57,236 and I'd give him a big hug, 1204 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,740 and try to make him feel really uncomfortable around you guys. 1205 01:01:00,823 --> 01:01:02,743 And then I would give him a bunch of compliments, 1206 01:01:02,784 --> 01:01:03,993 and he would tell me to stop. 1207 01:01:04,077 --> 01:01:06,079 He hates that. He doesn't want it. 1208 01:01:06,162 --> 01:01:07,914 He's a very, very private person. 1209 01:01:07,997 --> 01:01:09,248 That's why you gotta... 1210 01:01:09,332 --> 01:01:10,976 like, we're in the middle of nowhere here in Evergreen, 1211 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,045 and this... where the sessions are. 1212 01:01:14,087 --> 01:01:15,922 But I... 1213 01:01:29,435 --> 01:01:32,105 He was so tough on me. 1214 01:01:32,146 --> 01:01:34,565 He was really hard on me. 1215 01:01:34,607 --> 01:01:36,901 I thought too hard, at times. 1216 01:01:39,112 --> 01:01:44,158 But in the end, I know why he was doing it. 1217 01:01:47,537 --> 01:01:51,082 He saved my life. 1218 01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,595 The last two seasons, and as Jack alluded to, 2015, 1219 01:02:04,637 --> 01:02:05,888 a Renaissance season. 1220 01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:08,808 33 home runs and drove in 86 runs. 1221 01:02:08,891 --> 01:02:11,102 But this season, limited to 62 games, 1222 01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:14,313 just 9 home runs, 3 for 30 since... 1223 01:02:14,397 --> 01:02:16,607 He was getting beat a little bit with the fastball. 1224 01:02:16,649 --> 01:02:18,776 Once that happens and you're an older player... 1225 01:02:18,818 --> 01:02:20,570 The Yankees said he was over matched, 1226 01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:22,905 and when you put that classification on a player, 1227 01:02:22,989 --> 01:02:24,991 you're not gonna use that player very often. 1228 01:02:30,705 --> 01:02:35,334 I love this game, and I love this team. 1229 01:02:35,376 --> 01:02:39,130 And today, I'm saying goodbye to both. 1230 01:02:41,716 --> 01:02:42,860 Talking with Hal Steinbrenner here 1231 01:02:42,884 --> 01:02:44,177 on "The Michael Kay Show." 1232 01:02:44,218 --> 01:02:46,220 Every account in the media, Hal, 1233 01:02:46,304 --> 01:02:47,680 is that this was very cordial, 1234 01:02:47,722 --> 01:02:49,348 and it was not confrontational. 1235 01:02:49,432 --> 01:02:51,642 Just wanted to have an honest conversation with him 1236 01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:53,561 and convey to him kind of where we're going, 1237 01:02:53,644 --> 01:02:55,564 that we're gonna start to bring up young players. 1238 01:02:55,646 --> 01:02:57,565 With that happening, in all likelihood, 1239 01:02:57,648 --> 01:03:00,526 it's not gonna mean that he's gonna be getting more at-bats. 1240 01:03:00,568 --> 01:03:03,362 And he understood that. He understood that. 1241 01:03:03,404 --> 01:03:07,116 I wanna thank my mom, who's watching at home, 1242 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,954 and my daughters, my family, my friends, 1243 01:03:12,038 --> 01:03:14,707 former managers, coaches, teammates. 1244 01:03:17,877 --> 01:03:19,462 Thank you for your support. 1245 01:03:19,545 --> 01:03:23,382 You've been through so much with me. 1246 01:03:23,466 --> 01:03:25,384 I cried when he said he was gonna retire. 1247 01:03:25,426 --> 01:03:27,386 I was so sad for him. I didn't want him to retire. 1248 01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:32,683 It was, like, sad for me to see him finish. 1249 01:03:32,725 --> 01:03:35,895 But on the flip side of that, I respected him 1250 01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:38,898 for walking away when he was still, you know, 1251 01:03:38,981 --> 01:03:41,567 agile and able to play. 1252 01:03:45,446 --> 01:03:49,617 Please welcome to the field number 13. 1253 01:04:04,423 --> 01:04:06,592 He's grown a lot, man. 1254 01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:08,386 We've all grown. 1255 01:04:08,427 --> 01:04:13,266 We've just been able to figure out that it was all necessary 1256 01:04:13,307 --> 01:04:19,272 for us to be where we are today 1257 01:04:19,313 --> 01:04:22,525 with our kids, with our family. 1258 01:04:27,113 --> 01:04:30,116 Yeah. 1259 01:04:30,157 --> 01:04:33,035 Yeah, Alex is a good person. 1260 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,246 He's good. 1261 01:04:38,374 --> 01:04:42,003 He probably wishes he could do things over again, 1262 01:04:42,086 --> 01:04:45,631 because I tell you, he'd be a Hall-of-Famer 1263 01:04:45,673 --> 01:04:47,341 on the first ballot. 1264 01:04:47,425 --> 01:04:48,634 The 2-2. 1265 01:04:48,676 --> 01:04:50,303 Line drive, base hit! 1266 01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:55,141 Souza cannot cut it off. It'll go to the wall! 1267 01:04:55,182 --> 01:04:56,642 Gardner will score. 1268 01:04:56,726 --> 01:04:59,645 He has an RBI double, and the Yankees 1269 01:04:59,687 --> 01:05:01,939 have tied the game at 1. 1270 01:05:07,862 --> 01:05:10,656 He probably should get in now. 1271 01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:13,409 I know a lot of people feel different, 1272 01:05:13,492 --> 01:05:16,495 but I'm not a baseball purist. 1273 01:05:19,498 --> 01:05:21,125 Swing and a miss. 1274 01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:25,421 Betances strikes out the side, and the Yankees win 6 to 3, 1275 01:05:25,504 --> 01:05:29,258 and Alex Rodriguez goes out with a victory. 1276 01:05:29,342 --> 01:05:31,969 One of the greatest careers in baseball history, 1277 01:05:32,011 --> 01:05:35,431 and it concludes in pinstripes tonight. 1278 01:05:35,514 --> 01:05:38,935 The first time that I knew Dr. David's work 1279 01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:41,395 was really working, I was, like, 1280 01:05:41,479 --> 01:05:43,814 4 home runs shy of 700. 1281 01:05:43,856 --> 01:05:46,692 And my instinct said, come on, Hal. 1282 01:05:46,776 --> 01:05:48,527 Let me just get four more, man. 1283 01:05:48,611 --> 01:05:50,196 Four more, and I can do it. 1284 01:05:50,237 --> 01:05:51,739 Give me... give me a month. 1285 01:05:51,822 --> 01:05:54,575 I've worked so hard for this. 1286 01:05:54,659 --> 01:05:58,996 And I thought about it for, like, five minutes. 1287 01:05:59,038 --> 01:06:00,414 And I said, you know what? 1288 01:06:00,498 --> 01:06:03,542 696 with the Yankees was greater than 700 1289 01:06:03,584 --> 01:06:05,419 with another uniform on. 1290 01:06:05,503 --> 01:06:11,050 I think the way I handled that made me really, really proud, 1291 01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:15,554 because A-Rod would still be playing right now. 1292 01:06:17,556 --> 01:06:22,228 So the curtain comes down on the complicated but brilliant 1293 01:06:22,269 --> 01:06:27,358 career of Alex Rodriguez. 1294 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,986 I think that after the suspension, 1295 01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:31,737 he retired in peace. 1296 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,034 And while he may never, you know, 1297 01:06:37,076 --> 01:06:40,079 step foot in the Hall of Fame, 1298 01:06:40,121 --> 01:06:43,457 I just think he was a Hall-of-Famer day one, 1299 01:06:43,541 --> 01:06:44,625 you know? 1300 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,424 Only a fool would say A-Rod wasn't a great player. 1301 01:06:51,507 --> 01:06:53,134 He won three MVPs. 1302 01:06:53,217 --> 01:06:55,928 He's in the top 10 or top 20 in most statistics. 1303 01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:58,222 He had 3,000 hits. He had 2,000 RBIs. 1304 01:06:58,264 --> 01:06:59,640 He had 2,000 runs scored. 1305 01:06:59,724 --> 01:07:01,308 He had 696 home runs. 1306 01:07:01,392 --> 01:07:04,061 He won Gold Gloves at shortstop. 1307 01:07:04,103 --> 01:07:08,315 Even with those numbers, as outstanding and amazing 1308 01:07:08,399 --> 01:07:11,110 as they are, not gonna happen. 1309 01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:12,695 Not gonna happen. 1310 01:07:12,778 --> 01:07:16,699 And that's the blessings and the curse, 1311 01:07:16,782 --> 01:07:19,243 and that's what makes him that Shakespearean figure. 1312 01:07:27,501 --> 01:07:30,254 What was going through your mind as you made that walk? 1313 01:07:30,296 --> 01:07:31,881 Well, it was exciting. 1314 01:07:31,964 --> 01:07:33,604 That's... that's where I played, you know, 1315 01:07:33,632 --> 01:07:35,217 a lot of my baseball over here. 1316 01:07:35,301 --> 01:07:37,470 That's where we won the World Championship in 2009. 1317 01:07:37,511 --> 01:07:39,597 And, uh... 1318 01:08:01,452 --> 01:08:03,913 This is my favorite moment, when my girls come out. 1319 01:08:06,373 --> 01:08:09,710 I mean, through it all, to be able to have that opportunity 1320 01:08:09,794 --> 01:08:12,838 to close my career like this, 1321 01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:15,257 I felt an incredible amount of gratitude. 1322 01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:20,179 I'll cherish that for the rest of my life, 1323 01:08:20,261 --> 01:08:24,350 to walk out of that stadium with a full house, 1324 01:08:24,433 --> 01:08:27,978 with a standing ovation, with my head high. 1325 01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:30,022 And in the middle of that suspension, 1326 01:08:30,064 --> 01:08:32,691 I felt that was an impossibility. 1327 01:08:32,774 --> 01:08:35,027 I can't say enough about these fans. 1328 01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:36,028 Um... 1329 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,158 I've given these fans a lot of headaches over the years, 1330 01:08:42,201 --> 01:08:46,372 and I've disappointed a lot of people. 1331 01:08:46,412 --> 01:08:48,999 But like I've always said, you don't have to be 1332 01:08:49,041 --> 01:08:50,584 defined by your mistakes. 1333 01:08:50,667 --> 01:08:52,837 How you come back matters too. 1334 01:08:59,885 --> 01:09:02,429 I believe you are defined by your mistakes, 1335 01:09:02,513 --> 01:09:05,224 but you are also further defined 1336 01:09:05,265 --> 01:09:08,769 by how you mend your mistakes. 1337 01:09:08,853 --> 01:09:10,520 You can never get rid of it. 1338 01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:12,731 There's not a full erasure. 1339 01:09:12,773 --> 01:09:15,776 I don't think you ever get out from under them, 1340 01:09:15,859 --> 01:09:17,653 but you could write another chapter. 1341 01:09:17,736 --> 01:09:20,656 Like, we have to always mitigate risk. 1342 01:09:20,738 --> 01:09:24,743 But also, I don't see any risk whatsoever on that, because... 1343 01:09:24,827 --> 01:09:26,036 You know, it's funny. 1344 01:09:26,078 --> 01:09:30,499 In some regards, he's really landed a lot better 1345 01:09:30,582 --> 01:09:33,836 than I ever thought possible. 1346 01:09:33,919 --> 01:09:38,591 If I had told you then that he'd be doing network baseball 1347 01:09:38,631 --> 01:09:41,594 as a broadcaster, I mean, that's a very 1348 01:09:41,635 --> 01:09:44,054 visible, coveted position. 1349 01:09:44,095 --> 01:09:48,100 Would you ever think this is a guy who would go out 1350 01:09:48,184 --> 01:09:52,104 with Warren Buffett and own a professional sports team 1351 01:09:52,145 --> 01:09:53,939 and be an incredible success business-wise? 1352 01:09:57,484 --> 01:10:01,113 He's got two adoring daughters that he loves. 1353 01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:04,217 If he's looking for more than this, 1354 01:10:04,241 --> 01:10:05,552 I'm gonna have to slap him around. 1355 01:10:05,576 --> 01:10:07,286 He's doing okay. 1356 01:10:07,328 --> 01:10:09,288 -Send those next. -Send those. 1357 01:10:09,371 --> 01:10:11,457 I guess the question I'd ask him is, 1358 01:10:11,498 --> 01:10:13,834 have you finally found yourself? 1359 01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:16,837 Are you finally comfortable with who you are? 1360 01:10:19,298 --> 01:10:22,593 In a weird way, that suspension, 1361 01:10:22,635 --> 01:10:24,720 you know, thinking about it ten years later, 1362 01:10:24,803 --> 01:10:26,889 while I cringed and I'm embarrassed 1363 01:10:26,972 --> 01:10:30,226 and I burned bridges, 1364 01:10:30,309 --> 01:10:34,939 someday... not quite yet... I'll be able to say 1365 01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:38,400 that's the best thing that happened in my life. 1366 01:10:38,484 --> 01:10:42,446 Because I took that opportunity to pause, 1367 01:10:42,488 --> 01:10:44,865 turn the lens inward... 1368 01:10:46,659 --> 01:10:48,661 And I've come out on the other side. 1369 01:10:50,829 --> 01:10:54,500 Not a Hall-of-Famer, which sucks, 1370 01:10:54,583 --> 01:10:56,794 but a happier person. 1371 01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:25,281 I was in there for a really, really long time, 1372 01:11:25,364 --> 01:11:27,116 and I thought it was everything. 1373 01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:29,868 But... 1374 01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:32,204 it's the Hall of Fame. It's not heaven. 1375 01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:39,049 I know the haters are saying... they're saying, 1376 01:11:39,086 --> 01:11:41,547 like, yeah, BS, I don't believe it. 1377 01:11:41,588 --> 01:11:44,883 I'm sure there's people watching here that are like, 1378 01:11:44,967 --> 01:11:47,886 what do you call it? Like, hate-watch. 1379 01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:49,888 And no matter what I say, they're gonna spin it 1380 01:11:49,972 --> 01:11:52,725 to why they're gonna hate me more, right? 1381 01:11:52,808 --> 01:11:54,727 They're gonna think I'm slippery, 1382 01:11:54,768 --> 01:11:57,229 and they're gonna find something in this documentary 1383 01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:58,564 to say, see, I told you so. 1384 01:11:58,605 --> 01:11:59,624 That's why that guy's an asshole. 1385 01:11:59,648 --> 01:12:01,042 I don't trust him. I don't like him. 1386 01:12:01,066 --> 01:12:04,403 And that's fine. 1387 01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:06,238 But I'm done saying I'm sorry. 1388 01:12:06,322 --> 01:12:08,073 I'm done. 1389 01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:09,908 Like, new day. 1390 01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:11,076 Moving on. 1391 01:12:11,118 --> 01:12:12,786 A fucking new decade. 1392 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:15,080 I'm in a great place, 1393 01:12:15,122 --> 01:12:18,417 and I sit in my gratitude and my humility 1394 01:12:18,459 --> 01:12:21,378 to move forward, and I choose to ignore those 1395 01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:24,214 who will always be haters. 1396 01:12:26,133 --> 01:12:27,509 God bless you. 107938

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