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A-Rod is a Shakespearean figure.
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He's one of the greatest
players who ever played.
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Big, strong, good-looking,
the whole thing.
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This guy was an immortal player,
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but he also was an incredibly
flawed individual.
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You know, I say this proudly.
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I don't think there's ever
been a baseball player
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that has loved the game
like Alex has.
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You could say whatever you want,
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say he took this, he took that.
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At the end of the day,
he's gonna put up numbers.
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He's gonna hit the baseball.
That's what he was born to do.
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This wasn't about baseball.
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I think this was about life.
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One thing I've definitely
learned in life,
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the truth is always
gonna come out.
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It might take 30 years,
it might take 2 years,
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it might take 40 years.
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The truth is gonna come out,
and you're gonna have
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to deal with it at some point.
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You know, Alex Rodriguez
is just a seminal player.
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You know, it comes along
once in a generation,
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maybe a lifetime.
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You take away
all the extraneous nonsense,
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he's one of the best players
who ever lived.
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Again, it always begs
the question to me...
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and I wonder if he's
lying alone at night,
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looking up at the ceiling...
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why did I ever do any of it?
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Why rich and powerful
people cheat, part one.
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There is an arrogance that
often comes with power.
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The aura of power
surrounding you
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makes you feel immune
from consequences.
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You feel you can do things
that mere mortals
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are forbidden to do.
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You see other wealthy people
living a façade in public
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and a different life in private.
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The key to pulling this off
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comes from keeping your
public and private life
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as separate as possible
and creating an image
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that shields you
from a closer scrutiny.
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Yeah, this is a...
a train wreck ready to happen.
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This whole idea that you're
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one person
in front of the camera
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and you're a completely
different person off-camera.
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And that's exhausting,
'cause you're trying to keep up
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with the shit
you're trying to get away with.
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Not fun, and full of
anxiety and stress.
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And there's a sense,
I won't get caught,
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'cause you actually think you
are better than other people.
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There's nothing more stupid
than that, right?
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You learned that the hard
way, though, didn't you?
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I did learn that the hard way.
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And now a great
New York tradition,
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time to hand out
one of New York's
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most prestigious honors,
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the keys to the city.
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I mean, the thing when you win,
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especially if you win
in a place like New York,
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there is a celebration tour
that can last five months.
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And then you're like,
okay, this is fun,
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but I got a season that
I gotta get ready for in 2010.
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We gotta... we gotta repeat.
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Alex, I know it's a cliché,
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but what a difference
a year makes.
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Last year,
I remember we sat here
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and you were apologizing
to the fans and all that.
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And I mean, how much different
is this season for you?
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Well, it's much different.
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And, uh, you know, I'm in
a much better place right now.
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I know that last year,
we sat here...
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In the past, the pressure
for him cracked pipes.
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In 2009, the pressure
created a diamond.
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You know, you just
shut everybody up.
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Everybody that doubted you,
everybody that said,
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yeah, he's the creation
of pharmaceuticals...
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he did it.
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Now, when spring training
was starting,
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I said, well, he's gonna have
a monster year,
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because, you know,
he's free of everything.
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You know, he's won
his World Series.
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-What do you think?
-I hope so.
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-Yeah?
-I hope so, yeah.
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Another MVP,
another world championship?
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The only goal is the
same goal we had last year,
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was A, to have a lot of fun,
play as a team.
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And I look forward
to defending a world title.
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-You seem happy.
-I am happy.
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High drive, center field deep.
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Going back rows.
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Looking up.
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See ya!
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There it is!
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Number 600!
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Alex Rodriguez, the youngest man
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ever to get to 600 home runs.
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I felt like the World Series
came and went.
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And that one is driven deep
to left center field.
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Going back, Van Every.
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On the track, at the wall!
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I was basically at the pinnacle
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of my baseball career.
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But, I mean, there was just...
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there was a lot going on
at the time.
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I think a lot
comes with success.
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I mean, you check
on guys, you know.
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How are you doing?
Everything okay?
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I think in 2010,
there was a big hangover
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from winning the World Series.
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And Rodriguez caught looking.
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I had never seen Alex start
losing the love of the game,
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like not wanting
to train as much
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or not wanting
to practice as much
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or not wanting to be
around baseball as much,
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and that's what I saw happening.
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The Texas Rangers,
our American League champions!
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And I also think that
he was struggling
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with where he was
at a personal level.
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You know, now you're getting
older, the kids are older,
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and you're on the road a lot.
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And it was tough.
His divorce was tough.
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We functioned
very quickly co-parenting.
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The girls, you know,
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in order to see him,
they have to travel,
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and they're so small,
so I would travel with them.
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He would come back
and he would... you know,
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if he had a day off,
he would come.
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And he was amazing
when he was present.
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It's just that those times
were just so select.
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Valverde deals,
and a swing and a miss!
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Valverde strikes out
Alex Rodriguez,
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and the Detroit Tigers
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are headed to the American
League Championship Series...
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Something was off with my game,
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but it was less about that
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and more about self-development.
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From the time
I was drafted at 17,
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six years later,
here comes the 252.
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Six years later,
here comes 275, controversies,
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the championship after that.
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Everything was moving so fast.
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It was a blur.
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I could have been really
mature on the field
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but that doesn't mean that
my off-the-field development
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was caught up to that.
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And there was a huge disconnect.
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I had a lot of work to do.
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As a person,
I had a lot of work to do.
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Around that time, in 2010,
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I was on a flight with a friend.
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I expressed to him that I was
going through a tough time.
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And he said, well, I have
someone you should meet,
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but this guy is like nobody
you've ever met before.
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My first appointment, I flew
out to Evergreen, Colorado,
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this beautiful small town,
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kind of in the middle
of nowhere.
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It was cold, it was snowing.
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I didn't know what to expect.
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Oh, man.
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Oh.
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You know, I never
came in this house.
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We would always go
around to his office.
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I mean, it's a bit shocking
being back here.
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Dr. David has passed,
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and that's a tough pill
to swallow.
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Everything's pretty much
the same.
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He had his desk,
two computers, third one here.
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The couch was over here.
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We would do our sessions.
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And he had a chair right here,
and he has a little table.
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He would always have,
like, water there,
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but I never saw him
eat anything, drink anything,
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or ever go to the bathroom.
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So at one point,
I asked him, are you human
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or are you just a robot
with no emotions?
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Yeah, he would never laugh
at any of my jokes, so.
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The minute
you're around Dr. David,
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you just know he's different.
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He just... very, very
serious person, an academic,
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and has done retreats
all over the world.
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I wish it was a retreat.
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It wasn't a retreat.
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There's so much significance
in this room for me.
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I'm just picturing Dr. David.
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I mean, I can feel him
all over the room.
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Interesting.
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I think in many ways,
it feels like a lab
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or a batting cage
where I got so much work done.
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He described it
as rewiring the brain.
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And he said, if you start this
process, you have to finish.
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You can't stop in the middle,
because it'll be even worse.
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I was like, okay,
this sounds intense.
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That first session
was really about
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feeling each other out
a little bit.
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There was a lot of, like,
volleying and back and forth.
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I'm having
a hard time at work.
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I'm trying to get all these
people to do this and do that,
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and they're not doing it.
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have you ever thought
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that you're a terrible leader?
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What?
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Maybe you don't know
how to lead people.
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Do you think people
respect you and trust you?
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All right,
I need a fucking break.
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I'm going to the bathroom.
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That was my
favorite place to go,
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'cause it was the only time
he would give me a break.
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And then I would, like, stall.
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Oh, my God, it's so weird.
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I mean, he was such
a truth-teller,
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and I wasn't used to that.
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He would just throw arrows
right between your eyes, right?
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Like, when you talk you sound
like you're full of shit,
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'cause you are.
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And, like, in hindsight,
I was so fucking slippery,
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and I'd think
I can bullshit him.
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I'd think I was
smarter than him,
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and he just would
never let me slide.
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And he said something
to me that was like,
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you're so underwater that
you can't even see straight,
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and you're running out of time.
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Like, the fuck does that mean?
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I felt like early on,
I didn't understand
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what I was doing here.
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And after the first week,
I was flying home.
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And I thought to myself, what
a fucking waste of my time.
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What the hell
does Dr. David know?
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What brought me back?
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Well, I wasn't gonna quit.
That's what brought me back.
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You know, I was so damn stubborn
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that I'm like, all right now.
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It's like facing
a tough pitcher.
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He's not gonna intimidate me,
no matter how much...
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I know he's trying to drive...
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I know he's
trying to drive me here,
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and he's hoping that
I never come back,
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but I'm gonna come back
and make him miserable.
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And it was just a battle,
then I made it a competition,
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and that's really
what brought me back.
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Like, I'm never gonna quit.
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That tells you how
fucking lost I was.
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Jeter at second. One out.
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3-2 to Rodriguez.
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It hit him! Oh, my goodness.
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Looked like he hit him
with the change up,
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but Felix's change up
is 88 to 90 miles an hour.
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And that one, he's in a
lot of pain right there.
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Alex, you just talked about,
yesterday,
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how well you were
swinging the bat.
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How much more difficult
is this to take,
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how you've been playing
offensively lately?
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Yeah, it's difficult.
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Tough break.
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What have they told you
as far as the time frame?
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Haven't told me anything.
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Just fractured.
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Aging is never fun,
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especially when you're going
through... through injuries.
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For so many years, I mean,
I could go through a wall
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and just get back up
and just keep playing.
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Alex Rodriguez is
going to have surgery Monday
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to repair the torn meniscus
in his right knee.
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I was a workhorse,
and I loved to play every day,
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and I think those injuries
started piling on
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and contributing
to other injuries.
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3-2.
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-Popped up.
-On the change up.
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And Alex, frustrated,
slams the bat.
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Ooh, looks like something
might have happened
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right there coming out
of the box.
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Little wince.
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You think
after he slammed the bat,
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or something with his leg, John?
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As I got into my mid-30s,
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all those surgeries and rehabs,
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they started definitely
getting to me.
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I had knee surgery in '99,
I believe, my left side.
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And it was a pretty
simple recovery,
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so I'm hoping for the same.
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Except I'm a little older now.
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I wanted to be able to get
out of bed and not be in pain.
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And I just wanted, in the worst
way, just to be able to play
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and, you know, post up
every day for my team.
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Post-World Series, my...
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a person that was close to me
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kept saying, hey, I know
you don't feel good.
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You're not sleeping as good.
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You should meet this guy that
I wanna introduce you to.
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We're down in St. Pete
playing the Rays.
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He says, hey, that guy's here.
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He actually has a clinic
right down the street.
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If you wanna see him, I can
bring him up to the room.
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And that's when I met Tony
for the first time.
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His hair wasn't brushed.
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He looked like
he hadn't slept much.
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I was like, who is this guy?
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He said he was a doctor.
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He's like, why don't
you take off your shirt?
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So I take off my shirt.
He's like, oh, yeah.
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Oh, you need a lot of help.
You need a lot of work.
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You need a lot of work.
Where does it hurt?
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He starts moving my leg
around a little bit.
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And basically I said,
I'm not sleeping that great,
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my metabolism is not that good,
um,
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and I'm not recovering
well at all.
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He's like,
I have something for you.
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And he said, HGH.
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And I said, okay, tell me more.
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He goes, well, you just
put it in your stomach,
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and you'll be able
to sleep better.
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You're gonna recover better.
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It's good for your skin.
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Men and women use it.
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Athletes
and non-athletes use it.
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So there's... I'm getting
a little bit of an education.
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And I was like, nah, you know,
I'm good, I'm good.
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I don't need to do that.
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And then probably
a few weeks later,
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they were both asking me,
like, you know,
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why not give it a try?
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At that point, I knew
that if I did this,
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I would be breaking
a Major League Baseball rule.
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So I kept saying no.
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But I wanted to get out there
so badly and play.
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The Yankees are paying me
a shitload of money.
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There's an embarrassment,
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looking your teammates
in the eyes
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and not being able
to play every day.
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At the time, I knew it was
a very, very risky thing to do.
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But if this is actually
gonna make me feel better
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and help me get out of bed
and help me not be in pain,
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then fuck it.
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I'll risk it.
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I went into it
like, okay, I just do this
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for the rest of
the year, for like,
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a month or month and a half.
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And hopefully, you know,
this off season,
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my hip can feel better, and I
can never look back, you know?
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And then once I tried it...
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you're in the wrong side,
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00:18:17,262 --> 00:18:20,307
and you broke
a Major League Baseball rule.
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So I knew I did it,
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and I knew that
I was breaking a rule.
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And it was like that moment
where you go too far,
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and you're just like, oh,
can't take it back now.
346
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A report published
in the "Miami New Times"
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says this clinic,
called Biogenesis,
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was a pipeline to PEDs
for several players.
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The first time
I hear of Biogenesis
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is when someone calls my phone.
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They told me that, you know,
some guy was owed money
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00:18:53,048 --> 00:18:55,509
and he was gonna
whistle blow the people
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that were involved
in Biogenesis.
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I'm around Alex a lot,
355
00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:04,059
and I had never seen
that guy ever around Alex.
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I think Alex was
probably embarrassed
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that the guy was around
and he'd keep him hidden.
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I don't think Alex ever
went to the clinic.
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I think that guy Tony
went to see Alex.
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At the time, I'd never even
heard of this publication.
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It wasn't like "The New York
Times" or anything.
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So I was like, maybe it's a
24-hour story, or 48 hours.
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But it certainly wasn't that.
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Alex Rodriguez among 20 players
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believed to be connected to a
now-closed Miami-area clinic.
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The highest-paid player
in the history of baseball
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might be one step away
from losing it all.
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And then that's when
all hell broke loose.
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00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:42,097
-A-Rod.
-A-Rod.
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A-Rod.
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What in the world
is A-Rod thinking?
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It took off like a wildfire.
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A-Rod insisted he stopped
doping back in 2004,
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and that he's always
been clean as a Yankee.
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00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:54,693
-I was stunned.
-I was shocked.
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00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:56,612
I was kind of ticked off at him.
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00:19:56,695 --> 00:19:58,238
You know, why would
you do this again?
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00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,949
I was his biggest supporter.
I like him personally.
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00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:04,578
After what happened in '09,
the test and everything,
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00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:05,996
why would you go there again?
381
00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:08,415
Could this
theoretically be the end
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00:20:08,457 --> 00:20:10,417
of A-Rod in Yankee pinstripes?
383
00:20:10,459 --> 00:20:13,295
It was just an avalanche
of, like, bad news,
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00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:15,130
worse news, awful news.
385
00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:16,632
The penalties are the penalties.
386
00:20:16,673 --> 00:20:17,966
50 games, a hundred games,
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00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,676
three strikes and you're out.
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00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:25,182
I was like, oh, man,
I did it this time.
389
00:20:27,392 --> 00:20:30,229
A-Rod became, especially
the second time around,
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00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:31,813
the poster boy
for steroid abuse.
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He really did.
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00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:34,942
Is baseball gonna
get serious or not?
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00:20:34,983 --> 00:20:37,319
This is a major watershed
for Major League Baseball.
394
00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:39,613
And I think A-Rod deserves
the brunt of all of this.
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This has been
a shadow that has been
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00:20:41,657 --> 00:20:44,284
over Major League Baseball
for a couple of decades.
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00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:47,829
They didn't handle this thing
right from the beginning.
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If you go back,
they were sitting here
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00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:52,334
with a bunch of star players
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00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:54,836
who had cheated.
401
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,064
You don't have to be
Sherlock Holmes
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00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:58,173
to find these guys, okay?
403
00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:00,467
Everybody knew
404
00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:02,511
what those guys were doing,
405
00:21:02,552 --> 00:21:06,848
and they couldn't ever get
the genie back in the bottle.
406
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:09,518
Do you solemnly swear that
the testimony you'll give
407
00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:11,788
before this committee will be
the truth, the whole truth,
408
00:21:11,812 --> 00:21:13,230
and nothing but the truth?
409
00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:14,916
Finally, there comes
a point where Congress
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00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:18,068
gets involved
and smacks baseball around,
411
00:21:18,151 --> 00:21:19,987
and smacks Selig around.
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00:21:20,028 --> 00:21:23,532
And then you got these guys
like Palmeiro and McGwire
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00:21:23,573 --> 00:21:25,867
and Sosa
embarrassing themselves,
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00:21:25,951 --> 00:21:27,887
and Selig says, you know what?
I've had enough of this.
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00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:29,413
We're gonna get tough.
416
00:21:29,496 --> 00:21:31,540
I decided to do
this investigation
417
00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:33,667
so that no one could ever say
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00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:36,336
that baseball had something
to hide.
419
00:21:36,378 --> 00:21:39,047
Because I certainly did not.
420
00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:43,343
Baseball now was gonna
be really hard on everybody
421
00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:45,470
after being so lax.
422
00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:48,390
I tried reaching out
to Bud Selig
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00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:50,017
and just get
in front of him one-on-one
424
00:21:50,058 --> 00:21:52,394
and talk this thing through
before lawyers got involved
425
00:21:52,477 --> 00:21:53,979
and all this other stuff.
426
00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:57,190
I asked for two meetings,
and he said no twice.
427
00:21:57,232 --> 00:22:00,652
I was scared
'cause I knew this time around,
428
00:22:00,736 --> 00:22:03,447
they were gonna come after us
like there's no tomorrow.
429
00:22:03,530 --> 00:22:05,574
Commissioner Selig
told Rob Manfred
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00:22:05,657 --> 00:22:08,785
to do what he had to do to get
to the bottom of the scandal.
431
00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:14,374
Biogenesis then became,
I would say, a circus act.
432
00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:18,795
MLB had investigators
down here knocking on doors,
433
00:22:18,879 --> 00:22:20,255
trying to get documents.
434
00:22:20,297 --> 00:22:21,715
People were paying people off.
435
00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:24,426
I have private investigators
all over the office,
436
00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:28,764
people following
our receptionist in the car,
437
00:22:28,805 --> 00:22:30,932
a helicopter over our building.
438
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:33,018
I mean,
there's just nowhere to hide,
439
00:22:33,101 --> 00:22:34,895
and it just kept getting
bigger and bigger.
440
00:22:34,936 --> 00:22:36,605
They did things
that you're saying,
441
00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:38,565
baseball can't be
doing this stuff.
442
00:22:38,607 --> 00:22:43,111
I mean, they bought stolen
evidence to try and get him.
443
00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:46,448
A gentleman had
the Biogenesis documents,
444
00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:47,699
and we bought them.
445
00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:48,742
How much?
446
00:22:48,784 --> 00:22:50,786
$100,000.
447
00:22:50,869 --> 00:22:53,080
I'm not saying A-Rod
didn't make his bed.
448
00:22:53,121 --> 00:22:54,539
He did.
449
00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:56,291
But it was a good way
to show the public
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00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:58,126
that they were gonna
cleanse the sport.
451
00:22:58,168 --> 00:22:59,461
And it was an easy mark.
452
00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:02,214
He made himself an easy mark.
He really did.
453
00:23:04,174 --> 00:23:07,302
Some breaking news tonight
within Major League Baseball.
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00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,596
We are learning that baseball
is about to announce
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00:23:09,638 --> 00:23:12,474
its most sweeping set
of suspensions
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00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:14,684
for use of
performance-enhancing drugs.
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00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:19,147
At some point, they finished
their investigation,
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00:23:19,189 --> 00:23:20,524
and now we were
just on wait mode
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00:23:20,607 --> 00:23:23,193
to see what the penalties
were gonna be.
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00:23:23,276 --> 00:23:28,657
And you heard anything
from 50 games to lifetime ban.
461
00:23:28,698 --> 00:23:34,913
So I remember the day
and the call.
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00:23:34,996 --> 00:23:37,332
The phone rang,
463
00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:41,420
and it was Tony Clark,
the head of the union.
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00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,630
He goes, just wanna let you know
465
00:23:43,672 --> 00:23:46,007
we got the suspension number.
466
00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:48,927
And he said, it's 211 games.
467
00:23:51,346 --> 00:23:53,640
And I said, 211 games?
468
00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:55,308
I said, Tony,
how can that be possible?
469
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:56,768
Like, I'm 40.
470
00:23:56,852 --> 00:23:59,187
That means that I'm done.
471
00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:00,981
They've... I'm retired.
472
00:24:01,022 --> 00:24:04,151
And then I said,
did everyone get the same, 211?
473
00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:07,487
And he said, no,
everyone else got 50 games.
474
00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:12,200
And, uh... and I said, so how...
we're all in the same union.
475
00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:13,910
We all made the same mistake.
476
00:24:13,994 --> 00:24:15,412
How does one get 50
477
00:24:15,495 --> 00:24:17,164
and somebody else
gets more than 4X?
478
00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:20,417
What they have said is that
they have what they believe is
479
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,586
a convincing case against A-Rod
480
00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:25,881
that includes not only his use
of performance-enhancing drugs,
481
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:28,884
but that he tried to subvert
their investigation into it,
482
00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:31,720
and maybe even tried
to recruit some other players.
483
00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:33,555
And that, for all those reasons,
484
00:24:33,638 --> 00:24:36,516
his penalty will be
more severe than the others.
485
00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:38,560
It was confusing,
because on one end I made...
486
00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:41,730
I made the mistake,
and I should be penalized.
487
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:46,067
But I kept hearing
his voice, 211, 211.
488
00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:50,822
I'm like, I couldn't
even comprehend, at 39,
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00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:53,992
40 years old,
how you can be suspended
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00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:56,411
for a year and a half.
491
00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,205
Now a Yankees official tells me
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00:24:58,246 --> 00:25:00,874
they do expect him to appeal
any suspension,
493
00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:02,834
which means that
his case will be heard,
494
00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:04,836
then determined,
by an arbitrator.
495
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,088
It could take
over a month to settle.
496
00:25:07,130 --> 00:25:09,716
Of course, I have to fight back.
497
00:25:09,758 --> 00:25:12,594
I almost felt like
I had no choice.
498
00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:15,639
In one big scoop, it was like,
okay, no Hall of Fame,
499
00:25:15,722 --> 00:25:18,642
lifetime suspension,
and the Yankees
500
00:25:18,725 --> 00:25:21,102
were still on the hook
for over $100 million.
501
00:25:21,144 --> 00:25:22,646
I will say this...
502
00:25:22,729 --> 00:25:25,065
there's more than one party
that benefits from me
503
00:25:25,106 --> 00:25:26,900
not ever stepping
back on the field,
504
00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:30,946
and that's not my teammates,
and it's not the Yankee fans.
505
00:25:30,987 --> 00:25:34,074
So the fight was no longer
about, did I do it?
506
00:25:34,115 --> 00:25:37,994
The fight is like,
this is an overreach, and why?
507
00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:39,621
And what's the agenda?
508
00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:43,416
Just look at the scenario.
509
00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:44,793
A-Rod stays on the field.
510
00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:47,128
He plays during
an appeals process.
511
00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:49,965
But what happens every time
he takes the field?
512
00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:52,467
Isn't all the talk
gonna be about steroids,
513
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:53,802
scandal, and A-Rod?
514
00:25:53,843 --> 00:25:56,221
Alex, do you have anything
to say about what happened?
515
00:25:56,304 --> 00:25:57,931
Oh, there's no question
about that.
516
00:25:57,973 --> 00:25:59,474
It's gonna be a circus tonight.
517
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:02,644
But if A-Rod
is smart about this,
518
00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:06,273
his comments are gonna be
as conciliatory as possible,
519
00:26:06,314 --> 00:26:08,483
and he's gonna keep saying,
we'll just let
520
00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,443
the appeal play itself out.
521
00:26:12,487 --> 00:26:15,156
Guys, do we have
any water anywhere?
522
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,659
-We can get... get you some.
-Okay.
523
00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:23,164
Hey, could you grab a water?
524
00:26:23,206 --> 00:26:25,125
Could you grab a water?
Thank you.
525
00:26:27,043 --> 00:26:28,211
Go ahead.
526
00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:29,671
Steve and Dave.
527
00:26:29,754 --> 00:26:32,066
Alex, in 2009, you asked fans
to judge you from that point
528
00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:34,301
forward in your press
conference at spring training.
529
00:26:34,342 --> 00:26:35,903
What would you say to them now,
the people who
530
00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:37,345
took you on your word then?
531
00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:39,806
Well, I... I would tell them
that, you know,
532
00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:41,016
please have some patience.
533
00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:42,350
Let this process play out.
534
00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:43,810
You didn't deny the charges.
535
00:26:43,852 --> 00:26:45,770
Do you deny that you use PEDs?
536
00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:47,606
Like I said,
I think we'll have a forum
537
00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:49,190
to discuss all of that.
538
00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:51,776
If you didn't use PEDs,
why don't you just say it?
539
00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:54,654
I... there's a lot of things
that have been thrown
540
00:26:54,696 --> 00:26:56,781
to the wall, and at some point,
541
00:26:56,865 --> 00:27:01,202
we'll sit in front
of an arbiter and give it our...
542
00:27:01,244 --> 00:27:02,454
give our case.
543
00:27:02,537 --> 00:27:04,456
And that's as much
as I feel comfortable
544
00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:07,292
telling you right now.
545
00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:11,171
Like anything else, you gotta
just put your blinders on and...
546
00:27:11,212 --> 00:27:13,173
and do your job.
547
00:27:13,214 --> 00:27:17,552
On the outside,
it appears that Alex Rodriguez
548
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:20,597
is dealing with it,
managing, playing baseball.
549
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,059
But so much swirling
around him right now.
550
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,227
The only place he can't
get asked the question...
551
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:27,562
unless it's by an umpire...
552
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:29,022
about something is on the field.
553
00:27:29,064 --> 00:27:31,566
Everywhere else he goes,
he goes home and watches TV,
554
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:34,194
any sports channel
is talking about Alex.
555
00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:37,864
Now batting for New York,
the third baseman,
556
00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:42,077
number 13, Alex Rodriguez.
557
00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:49,376
I was somewhat prepared
for that type of reaction,
558
00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:51,586
because at that point,
559
00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:54,673
I'd been going
to opponents' ballpark
560
00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:56,424
and getting booed everywhere.
561
00:27:56,466 --> 00:27:59,386
That's just par for the course.
562
00:28:11,481 --> 00:28:12,691
But this was different.
563
00:28:12,774 --> 00:28:14,960
This wasn't about, like, hey,
you're gonna beat my team.
564
00:28:14,984 --> 00:28:17,987
This was like, hey,
I don't like you.
565
00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:19,114
So it was different.
566
00:28:24,244 --> 00:28:26,644
Well, this is the first time
we've seen something like this
567
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,958
since Alex Rodriguez returned,
and I think we can say
568
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,252
with some certainty what
the intent was after Dempster
569
00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:34,462
hit him on the 3-0 pitch.
570
00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:36,131
I mean, this is
a little bit unusual.
571
00:28:36,172 --> 00:28:37,590
It's uncomfortable.
572
00:28:37,632 --> 00:28:41,094
You knew this was gonna
happen at some point.
573
00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:42,762
And it affected you.
574
00:28:42,804 --> 00:28:44,699
-Yeah, but on the field...
-I'm okay on the field.
575
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:45,883
It's kind of a strange thing.
576
00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:49,352
Like, on the field,
I can roll with anything.
577
00:28:51,563 --> 00:28:52,939
Now he hits a deep drive.
578
00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:56,276
Straightaway center field,
and gone!
579
00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:00,822
He's hit a lot of them
in his career,
580
00:29:00,864 --> 00:29:03,908
but I bet you he enjoyed
that one more than most.
581
00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:05,994
It was a hard day today,
that's for sure.
582
00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:06,995
A long day.
583
00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:08,663
How angry were you
when you got hit?
584
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,498
Yeah, I was pissed off.
585
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,251
Another hit for Rodriguez.
586
00:29:13,334 --> 00:29:15,020
Considering how many
players have spoken out
587
00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:16,397
about you playing
through your suspension,
588
00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,465
are you concerned
about this moving forward?
589
00:29:18,506 --> 00:29:20,341
My hardest time
was off the field.
590
00:29:20,383 --> 00:29:21,944
You know, dealing with
all the distractions.
591
00:29:21,968 --> 00:29:23,511
It's been crazy.
592
00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,072
I'm gonna do my very best
to focus on baseball.
593
00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:27,056
Every day there was, like,
20 different stories.
594
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:31,686
Calling you all these names,
calling you Pablo Escobar,
595
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,730
calling you Whitey Bulger.
596
00:29:33,813 --> 00:29:36,524
Somebody else said
there's a RICO case open,
597
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:38,902
like, all these kind of
598
00:29:38,985 --> 00:29:40,570
very aggressive allegations.
599
00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:42,655
I mean, we live in a world
where people believe
600
00:29:42,697 --> 00:29:44,699
everything they read.
601
00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:47,160
And I'm like, dude,
I just crossed the line.
602
00:29:47,202 --> 00:29:48,536
But like, I'm not Whitey Bulger.
603
00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,830
Like, I've never committed
a crime in my life.
604
00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:53,208
Alex Rodriguez here
has created a stir
605
00:29:53,249 --> 00:29:55,710
as he made his way
to the batter's box.
606
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,378
That was tough for us.
607
00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:00,131
My job, I said before, was to
try to limit distraction,
608
00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:04,511
and in this particular case,
I mean, how do you stop it?
609
00:30:04,552 --> 00:30:05,720
I feel bad, like I said.
610
00:30:05,762 --> 00:30:07,442
I mean, I'd much rather
not be sitting here
611
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:09,140
talking about suspensions.
612
00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:11,893
I'd rather be sitting here
talking about a baseball game.
613
00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:14,395
-It's official...
-Alex Rodriguez is no longer
614
00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:16,397
on speaking terms
with the Yankees front office
615
00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:19,400
because of the possibility
of a looming lawsuit.
616
00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:22,403
Alex Rodriguez taking aim
at Major League Baseball,
617
00:30:22,487 --> 00:30:23,767
accusing them
of a smear campaign
618
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,740
to destroy his reputation.
619
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,283
He's suing people.
620
00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:28,594
He's suing
Major League Baseball,
621
00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,411
and threatened
to sue the Yankees.
622
00:30:30,453 --> 00:30:32,789
He's going down
with guns blazing.
623
00:30:32,872 --> 00:30:37,919
It was a war against the
union, the owners, the league.
624
00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:39,546
And I was right
in the middle of it.
625
00:30:39,587 --> 00:30:42,382
It's a little like watching
an accident in slow motion
626
00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:44,092
over the last couple of weeks.
627
00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:45,426
You know when the event is over,
628
00:30:45,468 --> 00:30:46,553
somebody's gonna be hurt.
629
00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:48,263
You don't know
whether it's just A-Rod,
630
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:52,892
the Yankees, Major League
Baseball, or all of the above.
631
00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:54,214
Yeah, it was a soap opera, man.
632
00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:57,522
I mean, it was a complete mess.
633
00:30:57,605 --> 00:31:00,692
'Cause it was long
and nasty and expensive
634
00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,737
and, without a question,
the worst time of my life.
635
00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:08,032
Strike three.
636
00:31:08,116 --> 00:31:10,451
And then we went to arbitration
637
00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,036
and fought that 211.
638
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,746
Yankees third baseman
Alex Rodriguez
639
00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:16,207
goes before a Major League
Baseball arbitrator today
640
00:31:16,291 --> 00:31:19,544
to argue that
his 211-game suspension
641
00:31:19,627 --> 00:31:22,422
should be called off.
642
00:31:22,463 --> 00:31:25,967
They lay out their case,
we lay out our case,
643
00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,844
but we didn't get anywhere.
644
00:31:27,927 --> 00:31:31,931
I mean, they... they
kicked our ass publicly
645
00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:33,850
and in... and in the courtroom.
646
00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:35,643
It was revealed
during arbitration
647
00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:40,481
the Rodriguez team admitted
paying $305,000 for evidence.
648
00:31:40,523 --> 00:31:42,358
You know, obviously,
when it first happens,
649
00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:44,819
you're gonna do whatever you
gotta do
650
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:48,156
to try to make things
what's supposedly right.
651
00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:53,995
We had hired an attorney
who hired, I guess
652
00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:56,831
an investigative company.
653
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,459
And that investigative
company said
654
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,921
that there was a hard drive
that was available
655
00:32:03,004 --> 00:32:06,633
that had a series
of information on it,
656
00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:09,010
and if we wanted to... to buy it.
657
00:32:09,052 --> 00:32:10,178
And we said yes.
658
00:32:10,219 --> 00:32:12,847
Was there any valuable
information on that?
659
00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:14,349
It was blank.
660
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:17,769
I mean, at the end of
the day, I'm a ballplayer,
661
00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:19,354
and I didn't know
how to handle it.
662
00:32:19,395 --> 00:32:20,855
It was... it was difficult.
663
00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:23,816
Rodriguez wanted MLB's
commissioner, Bud Selig,
664
00:32:23,858 --> 00:32:26,653
to testify during
this arbitration.
665
00:32:26,694 --> 00:32:29,822
Well, today,
the arbitrator decided
666
00:32:29,864 --> 00:32:31,699
Selig does not have to testify.
667
00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:33,868
-How do you force the issue?
-We don't.
668
00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:35,912
I mean, you know,
we can't, you know,
669
00:32:35,995 --> 00:32:38,247
go kidnap him in Milwaukee
and bring him here.
670
00:32:38,331 --> 00:32:41,250
I remember feeling
angry and frustrated.
671
00:32:41,334 --> 00:32:43,711
You know, if you're gonna
give me a lifetime ban
672
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:47,548
or give me a 211 ban, I mean,
we deserve to hear from you.
673
00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:52,887
But when he didn't show up,
I knew we were cooked.
674
00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:59,310
♪ Sports Radio 66
and 101.9 FM, WFAN ♪
675
00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:02,021
-A-Rod, welcome. How are you?
-I've been better.
676
00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:03,564
Tell me what happened today.
677
00:33:03,606 --> 00:33:05,191
Well, we got a ruling that, uh,
678
00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,902
the commissioner does not have
to come in from Milwaukee.
679
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:09,570
And I lost my mind.
680
00:33:09,612 --> 00:33:13,032
I banged a table and kicked
a briefcase
681
00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:15,243
and slammed out of the room
and... and just
682
00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:16,911
felt like the system...
683
00:33:16,953 --> 00:33:20,498
I knew it was restricted,
and I knew it wasn't fair.
684
00:33:20,581 --> 00:33:21,582
But what we saw today...
685
00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:23,751
A-Rod is his own worst enemy.
686
00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:26,337
He always has been.
687
00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:29,757
He's got a flaw.
688
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,260
PEDs... they said you did
mountains of PEDs.
689
00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:33,761
-Did you do any?
-No.
690
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:36,097
Did you obstruct a witness?
691
00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,200
-There was no obstruction.
-There was no intimidating.
692
00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:39,743
-There was none of that.
-None of this?
693
00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:40,768
None of that.
694
00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:42,895
So they don't... there's
not one thing you did?
695
00:33:42,937 --> 00:33:44,313
No.
696
00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:46,482
Hey, I'd be fighting, too,
if that's the case.
697
00:33:46,566 --> 00:33:48,276
He didn't say no quietly.
698
00:33:48,317 --> 00:33:52,655
He came to my show and swore
up and down, on the air,
699
00:33:52,739 --> 00:33:54,258
off the air,
that he was telling the truth.
700
00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:56,075
It's outrageous if you're lying,
701
00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:58,262
and it's outrageous if
they're wrong and they didn't...
702
00:33:58,286 --> 00:33:59,370
you didn't do anything.
703
00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:01,039
That's even more outrageous.
704
00:34:01,122 --> 00:34:03,583
So somebody's
really badly wrong here.
705
00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:07,462
I said, you realize
that if you're lying,
706
00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:09,422
you're never gonna
climb out of this.
707
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:13,467
And he was in such a,
you know, belligerent mood.
708
00:34:13,509 --> 00:34:16,304
That day, all he wanted to do
was tear Selig's head off.
709
00:34:16,344 --> 00:34:21,266
The man from Milwaukee that
put this suspension on me
710
00:34:21,309 --> 00:34:23,811
with... with not one bit
of evidence,
711
00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:26,813
something I didn't do,
he doesn't have the courage
712
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,358
to come look at me
in the eye and tell me,
713
00:34:29,442 --> 00:34:31,152
this is why I did 211?
714
00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:33,529
I shouldn't serve one inning.
715
00:34:33,612 --> 00:34:36,949
And I felt like in many ways,
while I was guilty,
716
00:34:36,991 --> 00:34:39,159
I thought I was
backed into a corner.
717
00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:40,870
Think about what
I've been through.
718
00:34:40,953 --> 00:34:43,164
If you are any other player
of the 13 players,
719
00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:45,500
with what I've been through,
do you think anybody's
720
00:34:45,541 --> 00:34:46,958
gonna fight
Major League Baseball?
721
00:34:47,001 --> 00:34:49,462
I don't think anybody has the
money to do it, first of all.
722
00:34:49,504 --> 00:34:52,507
I don't think he's vindictive.
723
00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:55,051
I don't think he's hateful.
724
00:34:55,134 --> 00:35:01,432
I think he just
doesn't get it sometimes.
725
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:03,202
I didn't know if you
were innocent or guilty,
726
00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:04,826
because let's be honest,
we know hundreds
727
00:35:04,852 --> 00:35:06,187
of baseball players
did steroids.
728
00:35:06,229 --> 00:35:07,915
And you did steroids once,
so I don't know if you
729
00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,149
did steroids again or not.
That's your business.
730
00:35:10,191 --> 00:35:11,776
I knew what I was doing,
and I thought
731
00:35:11,859 --> 00:35:13,194
I can thread the needle.
732
00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:17,281
And, you know,
Bud Selig said, no way.
733
00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:20,660
You are gonna get suspended
for 211 games.
734
00:35:20,701 --> 00:35:22,870
This has been a disgusting
process for everyone,
735
00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:25,039
and I'm more embarrassed
than anyone
736
00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:27,125
to be on the front pages
in the news.
737
00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:29,127
This is the game that
I love more than anything,
738
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:32,755
and I feel like, this is what
I have my PhD in, is baseball.
739
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:37,760
Even in his darkest day,
I felt bad for him.
740
00:35:37,844 --> 00:35:41,389
I probably shouldn't have,
but I did,
741
00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:43,891
because I saw
a vulnerability there.
742
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:46,185
Hey, I appreciate you coming in.
743
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:48,604
And I guess we'll find out
what's gonna happen.
744
00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:51,107
This is obviously not the end
of this by any stretch.
745
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:54,235
He didn't see, I don't think,
746
00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:57,363
any other way out at that point.
747
00:35:57,405 --> 00:36:00,616
It's like he had gone
too far with the story
748
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,912
to change the story,
until he had no choice
749
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:07,165
but to change the story.
750
00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:15,882
Yesterday, one of the best
baseball players of all time
751
00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:19,552
was hit with the longest
doping suspension in history.
752
00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:21,846
After a contentious
private hearing,
753
00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:24,348
Major League Baseball's
arbitration judge
754
00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:27,101
took the Yankee third baseman
out of the game
755
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:28,519
all of next season.
756
00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:31,939
In my judgment, his actions
757
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:36,485
were beyond comprehension.
758
00:36:36,569 --> 00:36:40,573
You put all the drug things
on one side,
759
00:36:40,615 --> 00:36:45,912
and then all the things that
he did to, in my...
760
00:36:45,953 --> 00:36:48,247
impede our investigation.
761
00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:52,293
I think 211 games
was a very fair penalty.
762
00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:59,467
I was so pissed when I saw
Bud Selig not show up
763
00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:02,803
for the arbitration,
not show up when I called
764
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,972
for a man-to-man meeting alone,
765
00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:07,141
but he shows up
on "60 Minutes."
766
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:09,769
And I was just like,
okay, this is...
767
00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:11,312
it is what it is.
768
00:37:11,395 --> 00:37:15,650
You know, thank God
the arbiter dropped it to 162.
769
00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:17,652
His attorney tells ABC News
770
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:19,570
he will file a new lawsuit
771
00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:21,113
to overturn A-Rod's historic
772
00:37:21,155 --> 00:37:23,658
162-game suspension,
773
00:37:23,741 --> 00:37:25,243
handed down by an arbitrator
774
00:37:25,326 --> 00:37:26,786
this weekend.
775
00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:28,913
You know when you keep
running from a problem,
776
00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:30,748
and you want the thing
to go away,
777
00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:32,333
the only way it's gonna go away
778
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,001
is when you face the music
and it's over.
779
00:37:34,043 --> 00:37:37,546
That's basically
where we were at.
780
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:40,508
Four- or five-hour phone calls
with lawyers
781
00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:46,681
for eight, nine months,
it takes a toll on you.
782
00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:48,349
You start asking yourself,
783
00:37:48,432 --> 00:37:50,393
with everything
you have gone through,
784
00:37:50,476 --> 00:37:51,811
where you've come from,
785
00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:53,729
what you've been
able to accomplish,
786
00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:56,899
and everything we're doing,
where are we?
787
00:37:56,983 --> 00:38:00,403
You put yourself into this mess.
788
00:38:00,486 --> 00:38:03,656
You gotta take ownership
for yourself.
789
00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:09,287
Good people in my life that...
790
00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:10,538
that were trying to help me.
791
00:38:10,621 --> 00:38:16,043
But the one that
stands out is...
792
00:38:16,085 --> 00:38:17,420
is Jim Sharp.
793
00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:21,048
I like him.
794
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,718
He has been a good friend
to me, and I have to him.
795
00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:26,637
He's been tested.
796
00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:31,517
And this steroid problem,
797
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:35,062
I think, was the depth for him.
798
00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:37,565
Jim has a very good
relationship with...
799
00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:39,233
with Rob Manfred.
800
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,404
He called me, and at this time,
he wasn't representing me yet.
801
00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:47,783
And he said, Alex,
I'm concerned because
802
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:54,850
not only are you ruining
your baseball career,
803
00:38:54,874 --> 00:38:57,918
but you're starting
to screw up your life.
804
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,131
You can find yourself,
as they say, in a hole,
805
00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:04,592
and if you do, quit digging.
806
00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:06,635
It looked to me
like by lawyering up
807
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,472
and filing a bunch of lawsuits,
808
00:39:09,555 --> 00:39:11,891
what we were doing
was nurturing it.
809
00:39:11,932 --> 00:39:14,435
I told him, you know,
you've got to understand,
810
00:39:14,518 --> 00:39:16,604
this is serious, of course,
811
00:39:16,645 --> 00:39:18,564
but it's not a crime
or anything.
812
00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:21,275
This is a rule in baseball,
813
00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:23,944
and you don't have to treat it
so seriously
814
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:26,447
that you're trying
to impress the client
815
00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:29,241
by being assertive and...
816
00:39:29,283 --> 00:39:33,287
and aggressive.
817
00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:36,540
In fact, from the beginning,
I thought the best way
818
00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:43,589
to do this was to back away
and let it get some hair on it.
819
00:39:45,007 --> 00:39:47,760
I called him back and
I said, hey, I need your help.
820
00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:52,306
I'm certain I'm done
with my baseball career,
821
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:56,852
but can you help me
get my life back together?
822
00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:59,188
And he said, yeah.
823
00:39:59,271 --> 00:40:01,023
If it's okay with you,
let me call
824
00:40:01,107 --> 00:40:03,526
Rob Manfred in the morning.
825
00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:06,821
The next morning, I had a
meeting with the commissioner.
826
00:40:06,862 --> 00:40:08,656
He said, what can I do for you?
827
00:40:08,697 --> 00:40:11,992
I said, I understand you've
finished your investigation.
828
00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:13,119
Yeah, he said.
829
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,413
Lord, I'm so glad
that it's done.
830
00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:17,164
I said, I'll tell you
what you can do.
831
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:19,333
You can let me see it.
832
00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:21,919
He asked me, he said,
what are you up to?
833
00:40:22,002 --> 00:40:27,925
I said, let me see it,
834
00:40:28,008 --> 00:40:30,594
and I think within 48 hours,
835
00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:33,514
I'm going to start
dismissing all these cases,
836
00:40:33,597 --> 00:40:35,850
if I can get the authority
to do it.
837
00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:39,687
I looked at it
about five minutes.
838
00:40:39,728 --> 00:40:41,605
That was all I needed.
839
00:40:43,941 --> 00:40:46,861
I left and I called Alex.
840
00:40:46,902 --> 00:40:49,238
And he said, I think
I have a plan together.
841
00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:50,906
We should put all these lawsuits
842
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:53,325
and just put them down.
843
00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:57,413
And then that's exactly when
I threw up the white flag.
844
00:40:57,496 --> 00:40:59,874
It's been revealed that
the Yankees third baseman has
845
00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:02,710
withdrawn his lawsuit against
Major League Baseball,
846
00:41:02,751 --> 00:41:05,754
the commissioner Bud Selig,
and the Players Association,
847
00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:08,215
which for all intents and
purposes signals his surrender
848
00:41:08,257 --> 00:41:11,844
and acceptance of
the 162-game suspension
849
00:41:11,886 --> 00:41:12,887
that was handed down...
850
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:15,222
-I said, that's it.
-It's over.
851
00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:19,018
This is a fucked-up way
to end a pretty good career.
852
00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:22,813
For the first time
in 20-plus years,
853
00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:23,957
I wasn't in spring training.
854
00:41:23,981 --> 00:41:27,860
And then I started
seeing the games start,
855
00:41:27,902 --> 00:41:29,653
and I'm watching every night
on YES Network.
856
00:41:29,737 --> 00:41:34,909
I was like,
this is really strange.
857
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:44,043
I remember waking up
one night, and I'm like,
858
00:41:44,084 --> 00:41:47,379
I'm the only dumb-ass
in the world
859
00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:50,424
that has pocket aces
860
00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:53,135
and figures out a way
how to lose the hand.
861
00:41:53,219 --> 00:41:55,304
I mean, you have
hundreds of millions
862
00:41:55,387 --> 00:41:57,097
of dollars guaranteed to you.
863
00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:00,267
You have three MVPs,
you have a world championship.
864
00:42:00,351 --> 00:42:01,769
Your legacy is cemented.
865
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:05,064
You're going straight
to the Hall of Fame.
866
00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:07,316
And then I crossed the line,
867
00:42:07,399 --> 00:42:09,818
and I caused myself all of that,
868
00:42:09,902 --> 00:42:11,779
plus the embarrassment
and the shame
869
00:42:11,862 --> 00:42:14,573
and my reputation.
870
00:42:16,158 --> 00:42:20,079
I cringe when I think about
how much I've hurt myself,
871
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,748
and I have no one
to blame but myself.
872
00:42:25,209 --> 00:42:27,086
And...
873
00:42:32,007 --> 00:42:37,054
Yeah, I mean, looking back at
it now, it was like...
874
00:42:37,137 --> 00:42:40,140
why?
875
00:42:40,182 --> 00:42:41,976
Yeah.
876
00:43:13,215 --> 00:43:15,026
I'll never forget, I was
looking at those mountains,
877
00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:18,637
and it felt like, you're never
gonna be able to climb it.
878
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:20,431
And to a degree,
I was like, why am I here?
879
00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:22,224
I've already ruined everything.
880
00:43:25,352 --> 00:43:28,147
It was a blessing that
I had started with Dr. David
881
00:43:28,188 --> 00:43:31,650
prior to the Miami
news article breaking.
882
00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:35,362
It was good to have him
by my side at that time.
883
00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:37,448
We spent hours
and hours and hours
884
00:43:37,531 --> 00:43:43,370
on the Yankees,
the suspension, Bud Selig.
885
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:46,999
There was so much hate there.
886
00:43:47,041 --> 00:43:48,459
I was really angry inside.
887
00:43:48,542 --> 00:43:50,210
Still, I wasn't,
like, at that place
888
00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:54,214
where I was
accepting everything.
889
00:43:54,256 --> 00:43:59,386
Dr. David would, like, put
a quick stop to that and just...
890
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,430
he would always turn it back
to me and says,
891
00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:04,433
what was your... what was
your part in this?
892
00:44:04,516 --> 00:44:10,856
And at first, I just really
rejected that way of thinking.
893
00:44:12,149 --> 00:44:15,235
I wasn't thinking clearly.
894
00:44:15,277 --> 00:44:17,571
I was, um...
895
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,203
I was the victim.
896
00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:25,412
And just missing things.
897
00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:28,415
Just, like, not seeing things.
898
00:44:28,499 --> 00:44:31,210
Well, Major League Baseball
had something against me,
899
00:44:31,251 --> 00:44:36,090
versus, like, I screwed up,
and they were doing their jobs.
900
00:44:36,131 --> 00:44:39,760
And if I didn't screw up,
even if they wanted to hurt me,
901
00:44:39,843 --> 00:44:41,345
they... they couldn't hurt me.
902
00:44:43,597 --> 00:44:48,602
And how there's a cause and
effect of my actions, you know?
903
00:44:48,644 --> 00:44:53,232
And then, you know, months,
months, and years later,
904
00:44:53,273 --> 00:44:55,776
I started feeling like, okay.
905
00:44:55,859 --> 00:45:01,073
I understand exactly what
happened here, and it's on me.
906
00:45:01,115 --> 00:45:03,575
But that was a long bridge
to walk,
907
00:45:03,617 --> 00:45:05,619
a lot of work, a lot of time.
908
00:45:08,872 --> 00:45:12,960
I mean, we went all
the way back to... to birth,
909
00:45:13,001 --> 00:45:15,129
early days in New York.
910
00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,925
He said, tell me about Victor.
911
00:45:19,967 --> 00:45:21,593
Oh, well, Victor, man, he was...
912
00:45:21,635 --> 00:45:23,762
I was on that couch right there.
913
00:45:23,804 --> 00:45:28,726
Oh, Victor, he was
really smart, good-looking,
914
00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:30,728
really good with numbers,
loved baseball.
915
00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:33,313
We used to love
playing baseball together.
916
00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:38,819
He said, man,
you're so full of shit.
917
00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:40,821
Which I was, 'cause I was
dancing around it.
918
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,322
I was still
kind of bullshitting,
919
00:45:42,364 --> 00:45:45,909
like, protecting my dad.
920
00:45:45,993 --> 00:45:48,829
The first time that
it hit me, like, hard
921
00:45:48,912 --> 00:45:54,293
was when I would have to go
and do my writing assignments.
922
00:45:55,878 --> 00:45:57,546
He would give me
homework assignments,
923
00:45:57,629 --> 00:46:00,507
and I would have to
come up with vignettes
924
00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:05,512
where I would have these mock
conversations with my father.
925
00:46:05,596 --> 00:46:10,350
And I would tell him,
I'm a terrible writer, so.
926
00:46:10,392 --> 00:46:13,228
And he says, it's not the point
about how good of a writer
927
00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:14,730
you are, it's about
your emotions.
928
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:18,150
So I said, okay.
929
00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:23,155
Now, I'm, like,
eight years old here, okay?
930
00:46:23,197 --> 00:46:27,159
How are you, my son?
931
00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:29,870
I say, I'm not doing well, Dad.
932
00:46:29,953 --> 00:46:31,455
Why not, son?
933
00:46:31,538 --> 00:46:33,165
Because you abandoned us...
934
00:46:33,207 --> 00:46:35,167
Mom, Joe, Suzy, me.
935
00:46:35,209 --> 00:46:37,377
When we needed you most,
you left us.
936
00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:38,837
I was only ten.
937
00:46:38,879 --> 00:46:41,215
My father... that's not
the case at all, son.
938
00:46:41,256 --> 00:46:42,466
I love you.
939
00:46:42,549 --> 00:46:45,719
You're my prince, my number one.
940
00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:47,554
I say, really?
941
00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,306
You're full of shit, Dad.
942
00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:52,810
My dad says, but son,
I've always loved you.
943
00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:55,145
We were attached at the hip
when we lived in New York
944
00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:59,066
and DR from age one to ten.
945
00:46:59,107 --> 00:47:03,070
Then your mom, Miami,
it was tough, you know?
946
00:47:03,111 --> 00:47:06,156
Look, I don't expect you
to understand this.
947
00:47:09,117 --> 00:47:12,871
These are the things
that occurred back then.
948
00:47:12,913 --> 00:47:16,542
I say, Victor...
not Dad, Victor...
949
00:47:16,583 --> 00:47:17,584
stop.
950
00:47:17,626 --> 00:47:18,794
You're bullshitting me.
951
00:47:18,877 --> 00:47:20,546
You're full of shit.
952
00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:23,090
You've done it for 43 years.
953
00:47:23,131 --> 00:47:26,635
Enough is enough.
954
00:47:26,718 --> 00:47:28,846
You've lied to me from day one.
955
00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:30,722
That's why
I'm so full of shit myself.
956
00:47:30,764 --> 00:47:32,349
I grew up around it.
957
00:47:32,432 --> 00:47:35,269
I thought I can get away
with everything like you,
958
00:47:35,310 --> 00:47:37,437
bullshit myself through life.
959
00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:39,773
My dad says,
what are you talking about?
960
00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:43,443
How about 2014, my full-year
suspension for using PEDs,
961
00:47:43,527 --> 00:47:45,863
then acting like
a fucking asshole,
962
00:47:45,946 --> 00:47:47,739
doubling down, blaming everyone?
963
00:47:47,781 --> 00:47:49,783
Sounds familiar yet?
964
00:47:49,825 --> 00:47:53,704
Does it remind you
of anyone, Dad?
965
00:47:53,787 --> 00:47:57,040
Dads says, I'm gonna go now.
966
00:47:57,124 --> 00:47:58,125
Hmm.
967
00:48:05,299 --> 00:48:07,092
Of course you are.
968
00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:09,136
That's par for the course.
969
00:48:11,179 --> 00:48:13,181
Except for one big difference.
970
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:22,649
This time, I'm ready. Goodbye.
971
00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:24,484
Don't fucking come back.
972
00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:32,284
Let's hit it.
973
00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:44,087
I always bring up the guys
who have it really together...
974
00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:48,634
Jeter, Peyton Manning,
Tom Brady.
975
00:48:48,675 --> 00:48:52,763
Very strong families,
very strong parenting.
976
00:48:52,846 --> 00:48:54,181
A-Rod didn't have that.
977
00:48:58,852 --> 00:49:00,652
I think when you don't
have a sense of self,
978
00:49:00,687 --> 00:49:04,858
and you're a young person
trying to fit in,
979
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:10,322
you could take the path of
adjusting your personality,
980
00:49:10,364 --> 00:49:12,199
your likes and dislikes
and your behavior,
981
00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:15,869
according to the company
that you keep.
982
00:49:15,953 --> 00:49:19,373
I think he was
kind of an immature guy.
983
00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:22,042
He missed a lot
of developmental steps,
984
00:49:22,084 --> 00:49:24,044
when you're in your 20s,
and suddenly
985
00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:27,506
you're making so much money
and you're a big deal,
986
00:49:27,547 --> 00:49:29,424
and that's hard.
987
00:49:29,508 --> 00:49:32,052
That's really hard
for people, I think.
988
00:49:32,135 --> 00:49:36,682
And if they don't have this
solid foundation of people
989
00:49:36,723 --> 00:49:38,684
in their lives...
990
00:49:38,725 --> 00:49:41,895
maybe a father figure,
for Alex, who was missing...
991
00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:45,565
it is very destabilizing
to have that level
992
00:49:45,607 --> 00:49:47,609
of fame and attention.
993
00:49:49,236 --> 00:49:53,073
So I think all these things
contribute to...
994
00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:58,578
to maybe not feeling completely
secure in who you are.
995
00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:02,416
From the age of 19,
for 162 nights,
996
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:04,459
he was on TV
for three and a half hours,
997
00:50:04,543 --> 00:50:06,253
and you were watching him.
998
00:50:06,336 --> 00:50:08,422
And then you followed him
into the locker room
999
00:50:08,505 --> 00:50:11,091
for another 45 minutes,
and you were watching him.
1000
00:50:11,174 --> 00:50:13,885
We didn't know
how to handle his fame,
1001
00:50:13,927 --> 00:50:16,054
'cause there's
not a playbook to it.
1002
00:50:16,096 --> 00:50:19,099
And so it was... it was trying
for all of us in that respect.
1003
00:50:19,141 --> 00:50:22,227
You know, the difference
between Alex and I is,
1004
00:50:22,269 --> 00:50:25,731
I learned a lot
playing with my dad,
1005
00:50:25,772 --> 00:50:27,607
watching him.
1006
00:50:27,691 --> 00:50:29,109
You know, how to
set up pitchers,
1007
00:50:29,151 --> 00:50:31,903
how to be a pro,
how to do all these things.
1008
00:50:31,945 --> 00:50:36,116
I'm looking at someone
that I look like
1009
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,746
and who loves me for me...
not for what I do, just for me.
1010
00:50:40,787 --> 00:50:43,290
When I was in Little League,
I used to always look
1011
00:50:43,373 --> 00:50:44,708
for my parents in the stands,
1012
00:50:44,791 --> 00:50:45,935
and it just made me comfortable.
1013
00:50:45,959 --> 00:50:47,478
It was the same thing when
I was in the Major Leagues.
1014
00:50:47,502 --> 00:50:50,464
I looked for my parents.
It made me comfortable.
1015
00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:53,216
I think it comes back to the
kid whose dad wasn't there.
1016
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:54,760
He chases acceptance.
1017
00:50:54,801 --> 00:50:57,054
He wants to be accepted,
and he wants to be loved.
1018
00:50:57,137 --> 00:51:00,974
And you keep score with
success, homers and RBIs
1019
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:03,977
and batting average,
maybe money.
1020
00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:09,816
He wanted so much
to be respected and loved.
1021
00:51:09,858 --> 00:51:11,318
And he wanted everything,
1022
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:14,154
and he seeks it
in the worst ways,
1023
00:51:14,196 --> 00:51:17,991
the worst ways,
that backfired terribly.
1024
00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:20,994
I mean, it's just part of him,
and I think that's...
1025
00:51:21,036 --> 00:51:23,997
in a lot of ways,
it's been his curse.
1026
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:25,683
I just don't think
he had that perspective
1027
00:51:25,707 --> 00:51:27,060
or that parent to, like,
pull him aside
1028
00:51:27,084 --> 00:51:28,335
and say, what are you doing?
1029
00:51:28,376 --> 00:51:30,670
That's where
the self-confidence comes in
1030
00:51:30,712 --> 00:51:33,465
and the groundedness and the
rootedness of somebody's,
1031
00:51:33,507 --> 00:51:35,550
like, moral fiber.
1032
00:51:35,634 --> 00:51:39,096
And he was lacking
in those areas.
1033
00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:41,306
He just was.
1034
00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:44,643
I don't know, they might
have still gone that way.
1035
00:51:44,684 --> 00:51:47,354
Maybe his father
didn't have skills
1036
00:51:47,395 --> 00:51:49,022
that he would have needed.
1037
00:51:49,064 --> 00:51:50,607
Maybe he didn't.
1038
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:52,335
Maybe he wouldn't have
suffered the loss of his dad
1039
00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:54,861
but maybe he wouldn't have
been aggressively trying
1040
00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:56,530
to become the best he could.
1041
00:51:56,571 --> 00:51:58,657
Otherwise, I mean,
who knows, right?
1042
00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:03,703
I'm not sure if I would
have accomplished what I did
1043
00:52:03,745 --> 00:52:07,999
on the field
with a present father,
1044
00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:11,711
but I certainly think that
having a present father
1045
00:52:11,753 --> 00:52:13,380
would have helped me avoid
1046
00:52:13,421 --> 00:52:17,759
some of the dumb-ass decisions
that I've made.
1047
00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:32,274
Being here, like, at ground
zero, just keeps you honest.
1048
00:52:32,357 --> 00:52:39,072
And I would say that my entire
mission, post-Dr. David,
1049
00:52:39,114 --> 00:52:41,491
basically comes down
to two things,
1050
00:52:41,575 --> 00:52:44,661
and I think about these
two things every single day.
1051
00:52:44,744 --> 00:52:51,543
One is decreasing,
diminishing your ego,
1052
00:52:51,585 --> 00:52:54,504
and the other one is
increasing self-awareness.
1053
00:52:57,841 --> 00:53:02,137
Before Dr. David,
it was opposite.
1054
00:53:04,931 --> 00:53:07,726
And Dr. David, we would
always tell each other,
1055
00:53:07,767 --> 00:53:12,063
watch me here
and don't let me get slippery.
1056
00:53:12,105 --> 00:53:14,941
Making sure you're saying what
you mean and mean what you say,
1057
00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:17,068
like, all these things are...
1058
00:53:17,110 --> 00:53:20,071
they sound, like, so basic.
1059
00:53:20,113 --> 00:53:25,410
But the truth of the matter
was, they weren't basic to me.
1060
00:53:28,455 --> 00:53:31,958
Thank God that
I finally learned,
1061
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,795
'cause if I didn't,
I wouldn't be here.
1062
00:53:42,677 --> 00:53:44,888
I thought you were
so much better
1063
00:53:44,971 --> 00:53:46,449
once we got on the real road,
after the reps.
1064
00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:47,992
I thought you were
gonna say than Tashi.
1065
00:53:49,851 --> 00:53:51,144
I... I am though, right?
1066
00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:52,538
Actually, I think at this point,
1067
00:53:52,562 --> 00:53:54,940
you're more advanced than Tashi.
1068
00:53:54,981 --> 00:53:56,942
When I served my suspension,
1069
00:53:56,983 --> 00:53:59,611
one of the most pivotal moments
1070
00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:03,615
was when I sat Natasha
and Ella down in my office,
1071
00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:06,076
and I'm telling them
what happened
1072
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:08,453
and why I'm serving
a suspension.
1073
00:54:10,163 --> 00:54:16,127
It was really important for me
to be as honest as I can be
1074
00:54:16,169 --> 00:54:20,006
for an 11 and 7-year-old.
1075
00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:23,969
And not bullshit them,
because I never wanted them
1076
00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:27,973
to feel like
they have to bullshit Dad.
1077
00:54:28,014 --> 00:54:31,685
And I remember
they both gave me a hug.
1078
00:54:31,726 --> 00:54:34,980
And they said, uh,
1079
00:54:35,021 --> 00:54:37,315
don't worry, Dad,
you can do this.
1080
00:54:37,357 --> 00:54:40,151
And Ella, who was five, said,
1081
00:54:40,193 --> 00:54:43,363
Dad, you don't need
anybody's help.
1082
00:54:43,446 --> 00:54:46,157
You can still hit home runs.
1083
00:54:49,869 --> 00:54:51,180
He's always said to me,
he's like,
1084
00:54:51,204 --> 00:54:52,289
you can tell me anything.
1085
00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:55,709
Whatever you're going through,
I've done worse.
1086
00:54:55,792 --> 00:54:58,336
And so he's like,
I don't care what you try,
1087
00:54:58,378 --> 00:54:59,689
what experience
you have with people.
1088
00:54:59,713 --> 00:55:01,381
He's like, I've done worse.
1089
00:55:01,464 --> 00:55:03,717
And so that's always kind of
been like a safety blanket.
1090
00:55:07,387 --> 00:55:10,015
All phones, everything's
disconnected here, right?
1091
00:55:10,056 --> 00:55:11,558
-Like, no...
-Yes, Dad.
1092
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,393
Snap, WhatsApp,
none of the messages.
1093
00:55:13,476 --> 00:55:14,477
Okay, here we go.
1094
00:55:14,561 --> 00:55:15,705
You need your full attention.
1095
00:55:15,729 --> 00:55:17,063
You're gonna go straight.
1096
00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:20,233
I do think he's become
so much more aware.
1097
00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:23,194
From what I've heard about him
back in those years
1098
00:55:23,236 --> 00:55:25,739
was that, like, he just, like,
could not put his pride aside,
1099
00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:27,240
was just a mess, kind of.
1100
00:55:27,324 --> 00:55:28,783
Like, I... he's even
showed me, like,
1101
00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:30,368
old clips and stuff
of him speaking,
1102
00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:31,911
and it's just not
the same person.
1103
00:55:31,995 --> 00:55:35,081
Like, he's truly, like,
evolved in that sense.
1104
00:55:35,123 --> 00:55:37,250
-That's good.
-That was a little jerky beef.
1105
00:55:37,292 --> 00:55:40,211
What?
1106
00:55:40,253 --> 00:55:43,465
I think when
for a big part of your life,
1107
00:55:43,548 --> 00:55:46,760
you're a narcissist...
1108
00:55:46,801 --> 00:55:50,263
and I say
I'm a recovering narcissist.
1109
00:55:52,098 --> 00:55:57,854
That was foreign for me,
to, uh...
1110
00:55:57,937 --> 00:56:00,315
lean into being a father.
1111
00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:04,861
Quite honestly, I don't know
if I could be a good parent
1112
00:56:04,944 --> 00:56:06,279
without Dr. David.
1113
00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:09,115
I didn't have a dad
that I can copy and paste.
1114
00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:15,246
I was, like, shooting darts
in the... in the dark,
1115
00:56:15,288 --> 00:56:17,791
hoping for the best.
1116
00:56:17,832 --> 00:56:22,629
And he helped
every facet of my life.
1117
00:56:22,712 --> 00:56:26,508
He made me a better baseball
player, a better teammate,
1118
00:56:26,591 --> 00:56:31,304
more humble, full of gratitude.
1119
00:56:34,432 --> 00:56:37,102
And we thought about
quitting baseball.
1120
00:56:37,143 --> 00:56:40,980
It was like, maybe I just try
to piece my life back together
1121
00:56:41,022 --> 00:56:43,483
but maybe just disappear
and not...
1122
00:56:43,525 --> 00:56:45,985
and not play again.
1123
00:56:46,027 --> 00:56:47,254
I thought it was obvious
the Yankees
1124
00:56:47,278 --> 00:56:50,281
didn't want me to come back.
1125
00:56:50,323 --> 00:56:51,950
You never have to
face the music again.
1126
00:56:51,991 --> 00:56:54,285
You don't have to
face your demons.
1127
00:56:54,327 --> 00:56:56,913
You don't have to go back
to stadiums and get booed,
1128
00:56:56,996 --> 00:57:00,417
and I would've disappeared.
1129
00:57:06,047 --> 00:57:07,924
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1130
00:57:08,007 --> 00:57:11,719
I didn't wanna be remembered
for my darkest moment.
1131
00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:18,268
I thought, after being
body-slammed at 40 years old,
1132
00:57:18,351 --> 00:57:21,855
broken down, when nobody
thinks I can do it...
1133
00:57:24,232 --> 00:57:26,025
That the comeback matters too.
1134
00:57:30,029 --> 00:57:31,865
That season was probably
the single most
1135
00:57:31,948 --> 00:57:33,908
important season in my life.
1136
00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:38,079
And I'll never forget this.
1137
00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:41,040
As I drove to the stadium,
I made a promise to myself...
1138
00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:43,710
whether I go 4 for 4 or 0 for 4,
1139
00:57:43,751 --> 00:57:45,920
I'm gonna enjoy it,
1140
00:57:46,004 --> 00:57:49,174
because I do not know
when they're gonna
1141
00:57:49,215 --> 00:57:52,051
take the uniform away again.
1142
00:57:52,093 --> 00:57:56,890
♪ You know it's been
a long, long road ♪
1143
00:57:56,931 --> 00:58:00,143
This is his first appearance
in a big league game
1144
00:58:00,226 --> 00:58:03,313
since the end of 2013.
1145
00:58:03,396 --> 00:58:05,648
I never thought
we'd see him again, ever.
1146
00:58:05,732 --> 00:58:08,151
I thought he'd never play again.
1147
00:58:08,234 --> 00:58:10,114
I thought he'd never be
in the public eye again.
1148
00:58:12,906 --> 00:58:15,825
That one is driven out to
right center, and A-Rod gets
1149
00:58:15,909 --> 00:58:18,036
his first hit of the season.
1150
00:58:19,621 --> 00:58:22,332
But, you know, Alex does have...
1151
00:58:22,415 --> 00:58:25,710
he's got cubes.
1152
00:58:25,752 --> 00:58:27,587
High drive, left field.
1153
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:29,088
There it goes!
1154
00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:31,216
I'm 40 years old.
1155
00:58:31,257 --> 00:58:32,425
I'm out of jail.
1156
00:58:32,467 --> 00:58:34,427
I'm a fucking New York Yankee.
1157
00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:36,137
-Here's the throw.
-Here's the play.
1158
00:58:36,221 --> 00:58:38,598
-Nice!
-He's in there!
1159
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,393
And I went out and had one
of the best years of my career.
1160
00:58:42,435 --> 00:58:45,813
This one is off the top
of the wall, and gone!
1161
00:58:45,897 --> 00:58:47,482
He tried to make
amends with people,
1162
00:58:47,565 --> 00:58:51,152
and he also accepted blame.
1163
00:58:51,236 --> 00:58:54,280
If he tried to, like,
A-Rod himself through it,
1164
00:58:54,364 --> 00:58:55,674
I don't think
it would have worked,
1165
00:58:55,698 --> 00:58:58,117
but I think he was
pretty genuine.
1166
00:58:58,201 --> 00:58:59,786
1-1.
1167
00:58:59,827 --> 00:59:02,205
Lined into right center field.
That's a base hit.
1168
00:59:02,288 --> 00:59:03,456
It'll go to the wall!
1169
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:05,250
That'll tie the score.
1170
00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:11,798
Number 660.
1171
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:17,095
Home run number 661 breaks
the tie with Willie Mays,
1172
00:59:17,136 --> 00:59:18,137
and it breaks the tie...
1173
00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:19,806
You come back from
a year's suspension
1174
00:59:19,847 --> 00:59:22,225
and have 33 home runs.
1175
00:59:22,308 --> 00:59:24,143
It shows how great the guy is.
1176
00:59:24,185 --> 00:59:25,186
Pop fly ball.
1177
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:26,479
Deep down the center.
1178
00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:28,273
There it goes!
1179
00:59:28,314 --> 00:59:29,482
Yeah!
1180
00:59:29,566 --> 00:59:31,276
A grand slam.
1181
00:59:33,027 --> 00:59:34,821
I said, you're Lazarod.
1182
00:59:34,862 --> 00:59:36,489
You just rose from the dead.
1183
00:59:36,531 --> 00:59:38,533
People don't
come back from this.
1184
00:59:38,616 --> 00:59:42,996
He's only the second man
in history to get 2,000 RBIs.
1185
00:59:43,037 --> 00:59:45,331
Not only does he come back,
but he's come back
1186
00:59:45,415 --> 00:59:48,501
more popular than ever before.
1187
00:59:48,543 --> 00:59:49,794
He was dead!
1188
00:59:49,836 --> 00:59:53,172
There's no coming back
from that, and somehow he did.
1189
00:59:53,214 --> 00:59:54,841
♪ Find your way back ♪
1190
00:59:54,924 --> 00:59:56,342
It's carrying.
1191
00:59:56,426 --> 00:59:59,012
It's back near the wall,
and just like Derek Jeter,
1192
00:59:59,095 --> 01:00:02,015
his 3,000th hit is a home run.
1193
01:00:04,726 --> 01:00:07,103
♪ Find your way back ♪
1194
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,658
I'm on a journey of being
1195
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,997
a man with integrity and
character, and someone that...
1196
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:28,583
that you can bet on
and you can trust.
1197
01:00:28,666 --> 01:00:33,880
You can go a whole lifetime
without changing a fucking 5%.
1198
01:00:33,963 --> 01:00:37,550
And the fact that
I've changed so much,
1199
01:00:37,592 --> 01:00:42,221
I can only credit Dr. David
for putting up with me.
1200
01:00:44,807 --> 01:00:50,229
So even though Dr. David
is not around anymore,
1201
01:00:50,313 --> 01:00:53,066
he still lives in me.
1202
01:00:53,149 --> 01:00:55,443
If Dr. David was here,
I'd be ragging on him,
1203
01:00:55,526 --> 01:00:57,236
and I'd give him a big hug,
1204
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,740
and try to make him feel really
uncomfortable around you guys.
1205
01:01:00,823 --> 01:01:02,743
And then I would give him
a bunch of compliments,
1206
01:01:02,784 --> 01:01:03,993
and he would tell me to stop.
1207
01:01:04,077 --> 01:01:06,079
He hates that.
He doesn't want it.
1208
01:01:06,162 --> 01:01:07,914
He's a very, very
private person.
1209
01:01:07,997 --> 01:01:09,248
That's why you gotta...
1210
01:01:09,332 --> 01:01:10,976
like, we're in the middle
of nowhere here in Evergreen,
1211
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,045
and this...
where the sessions are.
1212
01:01:14,087 --> 01:01:15,922
But I...
1213
01:01:29,435 --> 01:01:32,105
He was so tough on me.
1214
01:01:32,146 --> 01:01:34,565
He was really hard on me.
1215
01:01:34,607 --> 01:01:36,901
I thought too hard, at times.
1216
01:01:39,112 --> 01:01:44,158
But in the end,
I know why he was doing it.
1217
01:01:47,537 --> 01:01:51,082
He saved my life.
1218
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,595
The last two seasons,
and as Jack alluded to, 2015,
1219
01:02:04,637 --> 01:02:05,888
a Renaissance season.
1220
01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:08,808
33 home runs
and drove in 86 runs.
1221
01:02:08,891 --> 01:02:11,102
But this season,
limited to 62 games,
1222
01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:14,313
just 9 home runs,
3 for 30 since...
1223
01:02:14,397 --> 01:02:16,607
He was getting beat a
little bit with the fastball.
1224
01:02:16,649 --> 01:02:18,776
Once that happens
and you're an older player...
1225
01:02:18,818 --> 01:02:20,570
The Yankees said
he was over matched,
1226
01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:22,905
and when you put that
classification on a player,
1227
01:02:22,989 --> 01:02:24,991
you're not gonna use
that player very often.
1228
01:02:30,705 --> 01:02:35,334
I love this game,
and I love this team.
1229
01:02:35,376 --> 01:02:39,130
And today, I'm saying
goodbye to both.
1230
01:02:41,716 --> 01:02:42,860
Talking with
Hal Steinbrenner here
1231
01:02:42,884 --> 01:02:44,177
on "The Michael Kay Show."
1232
01:02:44,218 --> 01:02:46,220
Every account in the media, Hal,
1233
01:02:46,304 --> 01:02:47,680
is that this was very cordial,
1234
01:02:47,722 --> 01:02:49,348
and it was not confrontational.
1235
01:02:49,432 --> 01:02:51,642
Just wanted to have an
honest conversation with him
1236
01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:53,561
and convey to him
kind of where we're going,
1237
01:02:53,644 --> 01:02:55,564
that we're gonna start
to bring up young players.
1238
01:02:55,646 --> 01:02:57,565
With that happening,
in all likelihood,
1239
01:02:57,648 --> 01:03:00,526
it's not gonna mean that he's
gonna be getting more at-bats.
1240
01:03:00,568 --> 01:03:03,362
And he understood that.
He understood that.
1241
01:03:03,404 --> 01:03:07,116
I wanna thank my mom,
who's watching at home,
1242
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,954
and my daughters, my family,
my friends,
1243
01:03:12,038 --> 01:03:14,707
former managers,
coaches, teammates.
1244
01:03:17,877 --> 01:03:19,462
Thank you for your support.
1245
01:03:19,545 --> 01:03:23,382
You've been through
so much with me.
1246
01:03:23,466 --> 01:03:25,384
I cried when he said
he was gonna retire.
1247
01:03:25,426 --> 01:03:27,386
I was so sad for him.
I didn't want him to retire.
1248
01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:32,683
It was, like, sad for me
to see him finish.
1249
01:03:32,725 --> 01:03:35,895
But on the flip side of that,
I respected him
1250
01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:38,898
for walking away
when he was still, you know,
1251
01:03:38,981 --> 01:03:41,567
agile and able to play.
1252
01:03:45,446 --> 01:03:49,617
Please welcome
to the field number 13.
1253
01:04:04,423 --> 01:04:06,592
He's grown a lot, man.
1254
01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:08,386
We've all grown.
1255
01:04:08,427 --> 01:04:13,266
We've just been able to figure
out that it was all necessary
1256
01:04:13,307 --> 01:04:19,272
for us to be where we are today
1257
01:04:19,313 --> 01:04:22,525
with our kids, with our family.
1258
01:04:27,113 --> 01:04:30,116
Yeah.
1259
01:04:30,157 --> 01:04:33,035
Yeah, Alex is a good person.
1260
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,246
He's good.
1261
01:04:38,374 --> 01:04:42,003
He probably wishes he
could do things over again,
1262
01:04:42,086 --> 01:04:45,631
because I tell you,
he'd be a Hall-of-Famer
1263
01:04:45,673 --> 01:04:47,341
on the first ballot.
1264
01:04:47,425 --> 01:04:48,634
The 2-2.
1265
01:04:48,676 --> 01:04:50,303
Line drive, base hit!
1266
01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:55,141
Souza cannot cut it off.
It'll go to the wall!
1267
01:04:55,182 --> 01:04:56,642
Gardner will score.
1268
01:04:56,726 --> 01:04:59,645
He has an RBI double,
and the Yankees
1269
01:04:59,687 --> 01:05:01,939
have tied the game at 1.
1270
01:05:07,862 --> 01:05:10,656
He probably should get in now.
1271
01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:13,409
I know a lot of people
feel different,
1272
01:05:13,492 --> 01:05:16,495
but I'm not a baseball purist.
1273
01:05:19,498 --> 01:05:21,125
Swing and a miss.
1274
01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:25,421
Betances strikes out the side,
and the Yankees win 6 to 3,
1275
01:05:25,504 --> 01:05:29,258
and Alex Rodriguez
goes out with a victory.
1276
01:05:29,342 --> 01:05:31,969
One of the greatest careers
in baseball history,
1277
01:05:32,011 --> 01:05:35,431
and it concludes
in pinstripes tonight.
1278
01:05:35,514 --> 01:05:38,935
The first time that
I knew Dr. David's work
1279
01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:41,395
was really working, I was, like,
1280
01:05:41,479 --> 01:05:43,814
4 home runs shy of 700.
1281
01:05:43,856 --> 01:05:46,692
And my instinct said,
come on, Hal.
1282
01:05:46,776 --> 01:05:48,527
Let me just get four more, man.
1283
01:05:48,611 --> 01:05:50,196
Four more, and I can do it.
1284
01:05:50,237 --> 01:05:51,739
Give me... give me a month.
1285
01:05:51,822 --> 01:05:54,575
I've worked so hard for this.
1286
01:05:54,659 --> 01:05:58,996
And I thought about it
for, like, five minutes.
1287
01:05:59,038 --> 01:06:00,414
And I said, you know what?
1288
01:06:00,498 --> 01:06:03,542
696 with the Yankees
was greater than 700
1289
01:06:03,584 --> 01:06:05,419
with another uniform on.
1290
01:06:05,503 --> 01:06:11,050
I think the way I handled that
made me really, really proud,
1291
01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:15,554
because A-Rod would still
be playing right now.
1292
01:06:17,556 --> 01:06:22,228
So the curtain comes down on
the complicated but brilliant
1293
01:06:22,269 --> 01:06:27,358
career of Alex Rodriguez.
1294
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,986
I think that
after the suspension,
1295
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:31,737
he retired in peace.
1296
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,034
And while he may never,
you know,
1297
01:06:37,076 --> 01:06:40,079
step foot in the Hall of Fame,
1298
01:06:40,121 --> 01:06:43,457
I just think he was
a Hall-of-Famer day one,
1299
01:06:43,541 --> 01:06:44,625
you know?
1300
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,424
Only a fool would say
A-Rod wasn't a great player.
1301
01:06:51,507 --> 01:06:53,134
He won three MVPs.
1302
01:06:53,217 --> 01:06:55,928
He's in the top 10 or top 20
in most statistics.
1303
01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:58,222
He had 3,000 hits.
He had 2,000 RBIs.
1304
01:06:58,264 --> 01:06:59,640
He had 2,000 runs scored.
1305
01:06:59,724 --> 01:07:01,308
He had 696 home runs.
1306
01:07:01,392 --> 01:07:04,061
He won Gold Gloves at shortstop.
1307
01:07:04,103 --> 01:07:08,315
Even with those numbers,
as outstanding and amazing
1308
01:07:08,399 --> 01:07:11,110
as they are, not gonna happen.
1309
01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:12,695
Not gonna happen.
1310
01:07:12,778 --> 01:07:16,699
And that's the blessings
and the curse,
1311
01:07:16,782 --> 01:07:19,243
and that's what makes him
that Shakespearean figure.
1312
01:07:27,501 --> 01:07:30,254
What was going through your
mind as you made that walk?
1313
01:07:30,296 --> 01:07:31,881
Well, it was exciting.
1314
01:07:31,964 --> 01:07:33,604
That's... that's where I played,
you know,
1315
01:07:33,632 --> 01:07:35,217
a lot of my baseball over here.
1316
01:07:35,301 --> 01:07:37,470
That's where we won
the World Championship in 2009.
1317
01:07:37,511 --> 01:07:39,597
And, uh...
1318
01:08:01,452 --> 01:08:03,913
This is my favorite moment,
when my girls come out.
1319
01:08:06,373 --> 01:08:09,710
I mean, through it all, to be
able to have that opportunity
1320
01:08:09,794 --> 01:08:12,838
to close my career like this,
1321
01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:15,257
I felt an incredible amount
of gratitude.
1322
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:20,179
I'll cherish that
for the rest of my life,
1323
01:08:20,261 --> 01:08:24,350
to walk out of that stadium
with a full house,
1324
01:08:24,433 --> 01:08:27,978
with a standing ovation,
with my head high.
1325
01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:30,022
And in the middle
of that suspension,
1326
01:08:30,064 --> 01:08:32,691
I felt that was
an impossibility.
1327
01:08:32,774 --> 01:08:35,027
I can't say enough
about these fans.
1328
01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:36,028
Um...
1329
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,158
I've given these fans a lot
of headaches over the years,
1330
01:08:42,201 --> 01:08:46,372
and I've disappointed
a lot of people.
1331
01:08:46,412 --> 01:08:48,999
But like I've always said,
you don't have to be
1332
01:08:49,041 --> 01:08:50,584
defined by your mistakes.
1333
01:08:50,667 --> 01:08:52,837
How you come back matters too.
1334
01:08:59,885 --> 01:09:02,429
I believe you are
defined by your mistakes,
1335
01:09:02,513 --> 01:09:05,224
but you are also further defined
1336
01:09:05,265 --> 01:09:08,769
by how you mend your mistakes.
1337
01:09:08,853 --> 01:09:10,520
You can never get rid of it.
1338
01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:12,731
There's not a full erasure.
1339
01:09:12,773 --> 01:09:15,776
I don't think you ever
get out from under them,
1340
01:09:15,859 --> 01:09:17,653
but you could write
another chapter.
1341
01:09:17,736 --> 01:09:20,656
Like, we have to
always mitigate risk.
1342
01:09:20,738 --> 01:09:24,743
But also, I don't see any risk
whatsoever on that, because...
1343
01:09:24,827 --> 01:09:26,036
You know, it's funny.
1344
01:09:26,078 --> 01:09:30,499
In some regards,
he's really landed a lot better
1345
01:09:30,582 --> 01:09:33,836
than I ever thought possible.
1346
01:09:33,919 --> 01:09:38,591
If I had told you then that
he'd be doing network baseball
1347
01:09:38,631 --> 01:09:41,594
as a broadcaster,
I mean, that's a very
1348
01:09:41,635 --> 01:09:44,054
visible, coveted position.
1349
01:09:44,095 --> 01:09:48,100
Would you ever think this
is a guy who would go out
1350
01:09:48,184 --> 01:09:52,104
with Warren Buffett and own
a professional sports team
1351
01:09:52,145 --> 01:09:53,939
and be an incredible success
business-wise?
1352
01:09:57,484 --> 01:10:01,113
He's got two adoring
daughters that he loves.
1353
01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:04,217
If he's looking
for more than this,
1354
01:10:04,241 --> 01:10:05,552
I'm gonna have to
slap him around.
1355
01:10:05,576 --> 01:10:07,286
He's doing okay.
1356
01:10:07,328 --> 01:10:09,288
-Send those next.
-Send those.
1357
01:10:09,371 --> 01:10:11,457
I guess the question
I'd ask him is,
1358
01:10:11,498 --> 01:10:13,834
have you finally found yourself?
1359
01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:16,837
Are you finally comfortable
with who you are?
1360
01:10:19,298 --> 01:10:22,593
In a weird way, that suspension,
1361
01:10:22,635 --> 01:10:24,720
you know, thinking about it
ten years later,
1362
01:10:24,803 --> 01:10:26,889
while I cringed
and I'm embarrassed
1363
01:10:26,972 --> 01:10:30,226
and I burned bridges,
1364
01:10:30,309 --> 01:10:34,939
someday... not quite yet...
I'll be able to say
1365
01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:38,400
that's the best thing
that happened in my life.
1366
01:10:38,484 --> 01:10:42,446
Because I took that opportunity
to pause,
1367
01:10:42,488 --> 01:10:44,865
turn the lens inward...
1368
01:10:46,659 --> 01:10:48,661
And I've come out
on the other side.
1369
01:10:50,829 --> 01:10:54,500
Not a Hall-of-Famer,
which sucks,
1370
01:10:54,583 --> 01:10:56,794
but a happier person.
1371
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:25,281
I was in there for a really,
really long time,
1372
01:11:25,364 --> 01:11:27,116
and I thought it was everything.
1373
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:29,868
But...
1374
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:32,204
it's the Hall of Fame.
It's not heaven.
1375
01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:39,049
I know the haters are saying...
they're saying,
1376
01:11:39,086 --> 01:11:41,547
like, yeah, BS,
I don't believe it.
1377
01:11:41,588 --> 01:11:44,883
I'm sure there's people
watching here that are like,
1378
01:11:44,967 --> 01:11:47,886
what do you call it?
Like, hate-watch.
1379
01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:49,888
And no matter what I say,
they're gonna spin it
1380
01:11:49,972 --> 01:11:52,725
to why they're gonna
hate me more, right?
1381
01:11:52,808 --> 01:11:54,727
They're gonna think
I'm slippery,
1382
01:11:54,768 --> 01:11:57,229
and they're gonna find
something in this documentary
1383
01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:58,564
to say, see, I told you so.
1384
01:11:58,605 --> 01:11:59,624
That's why
that guy's an asshole.
1385
01:11:59,648 --> 01:12:01,042
I don't trust him.
I don't like him.
1386
01:12:01,066 --> 01:12:04,403
And that's fine.
1387
01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:06,238
But I'm done saying I'm sorry.
1388
01:12:06,322 --> 01:12:08,073
I'm done.
1389
01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:09,908
Like, new day.
1390
01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:11,076
Moving on.
1391
01:12:11,118 --> 01:12:12,786
A fucking new decade.
1392
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:15,080
I'm in a great place,
1393
01:12:15,122 --> 01:12:18,417
and I sit in my gratitude
and my humility
1394
01:12:18,459 --> 01:12:21,378
to move forward,
and I choose to ignore those
1395
01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:24,214
who will always be haters.
1396
01:12:26,133 --> 01:12:27,509
God bless you.
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