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On Capitol Hill today,
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{\an8}a bipartisan call for more
government transparency on UFOs,
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{\an8}or as the military calls them,
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, UAPs.
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{\an8}The objects have been detected
essentially where all operations,
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{\an8}Navy operations are being
conducted across the world.
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{\an8}The technology
that we faced was far superior
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{\an8}than anything we have currently
or we're gonna have in the next 20 years.
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{\an8}Unidentified aerial phenomena
are a potential national security threat
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{\an8}and they need to be treated that way.
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United States government
has gathered a great deal of information
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about UAPs over many decades,
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but has refused to share it
with the American people.
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That is wrong, and additionally,
it breeds mistrust.
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I spent 11 years in the US Navy
as a fighter pilot.
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For 18 years,
I flew fighters for the US Navy.
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I spent 20 years working
in the US intelligence community.
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I served as the fourth
Director of National Intelligence.
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I spent 25 years
as a senior official with the CIA.
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I retired from the Navy as a one-star
admiral after 32 years of service.
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I worked on highly classified UAP programs
for the government as a senior scientist.
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I spent 32 years in and out
of government in national security.
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I've worked 28 years as an astrophysicist
on highly classified UAP programs
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for the United States government
and for the defense industry.
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I'm a professor
in the department of pathology
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at Stanford University School of Medicine.
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And for the last ten years or so,
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I've been working
with the Department of Defense
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and people in the CIA on the UAP topic.
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I've come to the conclusion that
we are not only not alone in the universe,
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but we have been discovered
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by an intelligence
from some other part of the universe.
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There's evidence we are not alone.
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Humanity is not the only
intelligent species in the universe.
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We're not alone in the universe.
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I wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest
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there are no other
forms of life out there.
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Humanity is not the only intelligence
in the universe.
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UAPs are real.
They're here and they're not human.
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There are other intelligences
that have highly advanced exotic craft
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interacting with the human population.
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They are here. This is real.
It's happening. It's happening now.
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Non-human intelligence exists.
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It's been interacting with humanity
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and it's been doing so
on this planet for a long time.
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We are not the only intelligent
life form in the universe.
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There's something here on the planet
with us that is intelligent
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and more intelligent than us.
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This is the biggest discovery
in human history.
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My name is Lue Elizondo.
In 2009, my life changed forever.
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{\an8}That's when I was recruited into
a highly sensitive government program
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that investigated
Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, UAP,
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also commonly known as UFOs.
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My work for the US government goes back
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almost 30 years
to when I joined the US Army.
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From there, I had the good fortune
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of being recruited into various programs
within military intelligence.
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During my career, I served my country
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around the world,
managing and directing missions,
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including counter-narcotics,
counter-espionage,
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counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency.
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And it was later in my career
that I actually began running
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special access programs
for the US government,
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and in some cases reported
directly to the White House
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and the National Security Council.
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{\an8}My name is Jay Stratton,
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{\an8}and for over 16 years
on behalf of the US government,
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{\an8}I worked as a senior intelligence official
on the UAP topic.
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I joined the Army at the age of 17
and left for a career
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in military intelligence
with eight combat deployments,
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including Iraq and Afghanistan.
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After the Army,
I joined Naval Intelligence,
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and then I transitioned
to the Defense Intelligence Agency,
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where I was the chief
of air and space warfare
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inside of the Defense Warning office.
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It was at the DIA that my colleagues
and I started getting reports
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of what are now called UAP.
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{\an8}We went all over the government,
pentagon, every intelligence agency,
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anywhere we could think to try to find
the UAP program, assuming there was one.
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As far as we could tell,
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no one in the United States government
had a UAP program,
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so my colleagues and I
began a new program,
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which ultimately became AATIP.
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{\an8}The Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program, AATIP.
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The funding
for this effort was sponsored by
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then Senate majority leader
Senator Harry Reid.
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And together myself,
Jay Stratton and our team
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for nearly a decade investigated
UAP incidents around the world.
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Based on hard evidence and data,
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we learned that UAPs
present serious national security concerns
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and a potential existential threat.
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Simply put, transmedium crafts,
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vehicles that have the capability
to operate in space, air,
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and water, and seemingly defy
all that humanity knows about physics
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have been operating with complete impunity
around the world since at least the 1940s.
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At AATIP, we had access
to some of the most sensitive videos
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in the Department of Defense inventory.
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If you could be in my shoes and see what
I've seen, and folks like Jay Stratton,
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there would be zero shadow of a doubt
that these things are real
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and they are not made by humans.
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The things that I've seen,
the clearest videos,
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the best evidence that we have
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that these are non-human intelligence
remain classified.
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{\an8}The classified data that we had access to
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{\an8}when we joined the program
was indisputable.
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There's 80 years of this data
that the public isn't even aware of.
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I have seen with my own eyes
non-human craft and non-human beings.
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{\an8}For 23 years and ten months,
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{\an8}I was in the United States Air Force
as an A-10 pilot.
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{\an8}And while I was at NORAD,
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I witnessed an event
that I will remember forever.
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There was a unknown object
we were tracking on radars.
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And the commander says,
"I want that target."
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That means intercept it.
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Fighters all the way down
the eastern seaboard were scrambled,
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and none of the fighters were successful
in intercepting or running it down.
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{\an8}We were unable to maintain
air sovereignty over North America.
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{\an8}On November 14th, 2004,
we were onboard the USS Nimitz,
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{\an8}which is a nuclear aircraft carrier.
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I was the most senior person
in the squadron flying.
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I had launched off Nimitz to do
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an air defense exercise
off the coast of San Diego, California.
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And I ended up chasing a UAP
known as the Tic Tac UAP.
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It was about 40 feet long
and just sitting there in space.
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You can see it start to accelerate.
And as it gets in front of us, it's gone.
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This thing was doing 32,000 miles an hour,
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so obviously that technology
is not the United States.
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{\an8} As we were
watching this Tic Tac object
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maneuver in this bizarre way,
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it was obvious
that it wasn't conventional.
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{\an8}This was defying those laws of physics,
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{\an8}laws of gravity
that as pilots we live and die by.
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We literally had these things
stalking Navy vessels on deployment.
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The frequency in which UAP were
being reported to us was increasing.
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{\an8}They were ubiquitous.
We were seeing them nearly daily.
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My gosh, there's a whole
fleet of 'em. Look on the SA!
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And then we actually almost
had a midair with one of these objects.
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This now became a safety issue.
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Two aircraft from my squadron were
flying in close proximity to each other
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in section formation,
so about 150 feet apart or so.
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One of these objects went right
in between those two aircraft,
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right past the lead aircraft.
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The lead aircraft
was visually able to see the object,
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and he simply described it as a dark gray
or a black cube inside of a clear sphere.
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To be clear,
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non-human intelligence
has been actively conducting
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ISR, Intelligence,
Surveillance and Reconnaissance
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of some of our most sensitive
US military facilities and nuclear sites.
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They have both deactivated
and activated nuclear weapons
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with both the United States and Russia.
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The nuclear weapons that were
activated in Russia were pointed at us,
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and from that perspective,
the stakes really could not be any higher.
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This is an emerging
and disruptive threat for the US
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and truly a national security concern.
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By the way, this isn't just
happening here in the US.
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It's happening all over the world
and occurring with greater frequency.
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When I met Lue Elizondo in the Pentagon,
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he made me aware not only
that this phenomenon was real,
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but it was an ongoing
persistent phenomenon.
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{\an8}The Secretary of Defense didn't know,
the Congress didn't know,
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{\an8}senior policymakers didn't know,
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{\an8}and nobody was doing anything
about it other than Lue
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and a handful of colleagues.
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I was shocked and I was stunned,
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and immediately was concerned about
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intelligence failures
that have occurred in the past
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and the disasters that have ensued,
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and determined immediately
to do whatever I could to help get Lue
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{\an8}to the Secretary of Defense
to move that information forward.
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{\an8}Each time Jay and I and others tried
to raise the alarm bells
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and bring this issue
up to the appropriate level,
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we were met with fierce resistance.
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The stigma alone
and the taboo of the topic,
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the historical association of "UFOs"
was something that
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for most people in leadership positions
was too big of a pill to swallow.
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In fact, the stigma was so strong
that people either believed, A,
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the topic wasn't real, or B,
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the stigma was going to somehow
taint or tarnish their career,
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so they didn't want to touch it.
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{\an8}We couldn't get the leadership
in the Pentagon
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{\an8}to look at the actual scientific data
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that showed that there is
a strong national security threat.
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They were more worried about
the impact on their reputation
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than they were about
the safety of the nation.
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On top of that,
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we were shocked to find we were getting
pushback from people in the Pentagon
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based on their religious beliefs.
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There really were religious fundamentalist
extremists with in the Pentagon
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that had a severe adversity to this topic.
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These are national security experts,
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senior members of the national
intelligence community
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who are putting their religion
above national security.
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A senior DOD official actually stopped me
in the hallways in the Pentagon
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and told me
that we were doing the devil's work.
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I had to deal with people who were
senior to me who were telling me
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in their world that these are demons,
and we are poking demons
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and messing in Satan's world
and all these other things.
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I was like, "I can't believe
this is coming out of your mouth."
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I'm briefing about an advanced
aerospace vehicle that has been detected
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on multiple sensors
that's absolutely there,
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and you're telling me
that you think these are demons
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and we shouldn't
look at them and study them.
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My mind was blown.
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While we were trying
to overcome all of these hurdles,
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we discovered another deeply hidden
and much larger UAP program.
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This program was so sensitive
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that it was withheld from
the Secretary of Defense, Congress,
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and even
the President of the United States.
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This program is referred to as
"The Legacy Program."
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This program had been capturing,
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retrieving and reverse engineering UAPs
since at least 1947.
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On numerous occasions,
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these retrievals included
the bodies of non-humans,
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some sort of intelligence,
intelligent being that is not human.
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When Jay and I began knocking on doors
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and trying to get access
into the Legacy Program,
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there was this almost
like an immune response
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by the Legacy Program,
and antibodies came out of everywhere
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to try to shut us down.
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{\an8}We began communicating with scientists
involved in the Legacy Program,
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{\an8}but their leaders when they learned
of this, shut it down aggressively.
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Not only were we met with
fierce resistance and stonewalling,
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we actually had people angry at us that
we're even asking the question itself,
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as in, you know, what right do we have
to inquire about the Legacy Program,
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despite the fact we were running AATIP.
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Put yourself in my shoes.
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I'm conducting investigations
of ongoing UAP activity
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and there's this Legacy Program
that has at least 80 years of information
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that could help us
better understand this problem
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and protect national security,
and they refuse to give it to us.
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When it became clear that
we couldn't work through the system,
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I knew from experience having worked
with the Senate Armed Services Committee,
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what it takes to move this oil tanker.
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Think about this immense,
immense ship that has massive inertia,
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and you're trying
to get it to change course.
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When it comes
to the Department of Defense,
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only Congress
has the wherewithal to do that.
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And the way to get Congress's attention
is first and foremost through the press.
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I knew we had to get the press engaged
to help get the Hill engaged,
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to then get back to changing
the Defense Department
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to study this problem
to figure out is there a threat?
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Where are these things coming from
and how do they work?
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As government employees,
we're not allowed to talk to the media,
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so Lue and I strategized
on how to overcome this hurdle.
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There were really only two choices.
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The first choice was
make peace with silence
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and sit on
what is humanity's greatest secret,
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all the while keeping
Americans in the dark.
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Or two, I could resign
my position in protest
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and fulfill my obligations
to the American people
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by telling the truth
about what I know about UAP.
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There was this difficult moment
where Lue had to decide,
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"Do I throw in the towel?
Do we give up on this?"
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"Do we ignore this?"
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Or does he fall on his sword?
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I couldn't, nor would I ever
reveal classified information,
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but I knew that if I could say
just enough at the unclassified level
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to make the media aware
and our government officials aware
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of the reality of the UAP topic,
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then Jay hopefully would be able to use
that momentum to go ahead and achieve
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the goals that we set out
to achieve inside the government.
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And we had
a number of difficult conversations
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because Lue is giving up
a very promising career.
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{\an8}He loved what he was doing.
He was very good at what he was doing.
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It's such a profound life decision for Lue
to make for himself and his family.
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During one of my routine
hellish commutes back home,
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{\an8}as I was stuck in traffic,
looking in front of me and behind me
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{\an8}and seeing thousands of cars,
I had this profound sense of isolation,
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a feeling I had
never felt before in my life,
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a feeling that I was completely alone.
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I might as well have been living
on the dark side of the moon.
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None of these people around me,
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in fact, no one anywhere had any idea
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of what was actually
going on around them.
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Not a clue.
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I thought to myself, these individuals
deserve to know the truth,
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the mere fact that we're
not alone in the universe.
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How can any one organization,
institution, religion, or government
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control that
or censor that or gatekeep that?
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No one has the right
to keep fundamental truths
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away from the American people
and humanity.
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{\an8} CNN has learned the Pentagon
had a secretive program to research UFOs.
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{\an8}The existence of a secret government
program to investigate UFO sightings.
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{\an8}A recent report by the New York Times
unveiled the existence of a real life
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X-Files department,
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their secret government program
to investigate mysterious flying objects.
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{\an8}This seems potentially like
one of the biggest stories of my lifetime.
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{\an8}These aircraft, we'll call 'em aircraft,
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{\an8}are displaying characteristics
that are not currently
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{\an8}within the US inventory
nor in any foreign inventory.
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Look at that thing, dude. My gosh.
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{\an8}This is a very serious
national security issue.
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{\an8}Something is in our skies.
It has been there for quite some time.
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{\an8} There's a whole fleet of 'em.
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{\an8}You have objects that are doing things,
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{\an8}maneuvering in ways
without any obvious sign of propulsion.
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{\an8}My submission is that
what we are looking at is truly,
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by definition, exotic technologies,
beyond next generation technologies.
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{\an8}And the bureaucracy and the Department
of Defense really limited our ability
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{\an8}to keep leadership informed
of what we were seeing.
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As soon as the media
started paying attention,
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Congress started paying attention,
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and I started getting calls
from the Hill for briefings.
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{\an8}Senators received a classified briefing
about UFOs at the Pentagon.
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Senator Mark Warner,
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the vice chair
of the Intelligence Committee said,
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"Look, I think it's important that the
military is taking this more seriously now
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than they did in the past."
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Senator Rubio and Warner,
to their great credit,
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put national security above
their own personal political careers
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and took the risk of engaging
publicly on this issue.
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{\an8}When they began to engage,
the Defense Department had to admit
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{\an8}to the world that this was real
and it was happening,
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{\an8}and that immediately took the entire
credibility of the issue up a huge notch.
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{\an8}The US Navy has finally acknowledged
that videos appearing to show UFOs flying
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{\an8}through the air are real.
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{\an8} Commander David Fravor
describing it like a 40 foot long Tic Tac.
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{\an8}The ability to hover over the water
and then start a vertical climb
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{\an8}from basically zero
up towards about 12,000 feet
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{\an8}and then accelerate
in less than two seconds
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{\an8}and disappear is something
I had never seen in my life.
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{\an8}We've had repeated instances of something
operating in the airspace
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{\an8}over restricted nuclear facilities,
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{\an8}and it's not ours
and we don't know whose it is.
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{\an8}That alone, just that statement alone,
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{\an8}deserves inquiry,
deserves attention, deserves focus.
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{\an8}If you have objects
in the sky that you cannot identify,
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{\an8}that's a problem because
it could be China, it could be Russia,
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{\an8}it could be any adversary.
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{\an8}Well, any unexplained phenomenon
could pose a national security threat.
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{\an8}That's the way
you have to treat those things.
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{\an8}There's something violating our airspace.
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{\an8}There's something fouling arranges
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{\an8}that even the people we've tasked in
the executive branch to understand this
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cannot provide an explanation,
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so I would say in addition
to the national security implications,
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this has implications for basic trust
and confidence in the American government.
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{\an8}We don't know
the origin of the phenomenon,
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{\an8}and we're gonna try
to get to the bottom of it
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{\an8}because for national defense purposes,
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{\an8}some of these have been
in areas that we train.
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These have been in areas where
we've got some of our best equipment,
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and yet our best equipment
has not been able to tag these things.
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We've not been able
to go in and catch them.
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{\an8}No matter what they are,
they're invading our airspace
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{\an8}and we don't know exactly
why they're doing it,
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{\an8}what their intent is
and what their capabilities are.
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In addition
to the national security concerns,
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this violation
of all nations' sovereign airspace
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presents a safety of flight concern
for all military and civilian aviation.
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And the even scarier thing is that
the Federal Aviation Administration
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stopped using radar
to track our air travel.
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They only track aircraft,
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predominantly commercial and civilian,
that are squawking,
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so they're actually putting
a signal into the system saying,
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"Here's where I am."
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The only way they know the UAP are there
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is if the pilot sees something
and says something.
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The fact that the FAA is not tracking UAP
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is putting American lives
at risk every day.
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I'm Brett Feddersen.
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{\an8}I served as the director of aviation
security on the National Security Council
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{\an8}and as the acting director for the
Federal Aviation Administration's
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National Security Programs Office.
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I can say through my experience
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that we are absolutely
not alone in this universe.
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The biggest thing that concerns me with
UAPs is the national security concern.
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It's the unknown.
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It's the fact that this technology
does stuff that we can't do.
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And if we can't figure out
what it is or what it wants,
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uh, or what it's being used for,
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that keeps me up at night and the idea
that we're behind the power curve.
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We want to be able to maintain the
cutting edge technology and the advantage
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here in the United States
so that we can sleep comfortably at night
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and feel the safety of what
the American government has provided.
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There's sort of, I think,
four hypotheses out there,
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one of which is that this is
foreign adversary technology
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that we simply don't understand
or weren't aware of,
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and that would amount to probably
the biggest intelligence failure
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in modern American history.
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The second of which is that this is
a robust counter-intelligence program
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to cover up for a US
government effort that has fallen,
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kind of, away
from congressional oversight.
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A third hypothesis is obviously
that this is, uh, interdimensional
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or extra-terrestrial.
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The fourth could be
a combination of the previous three.
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Some of the biggest strategic
blunders in human history,
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the foundation of those blunders
were a lack of imagination.
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The belief that an adversary
or whoever could not do something
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because it had never been done before.
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The US thought it was safe
for those ships in Pearl Harbor
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because we didn't think
the Japanese could get there,
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much less have torpedoes
that could navigate such a narrow straight
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and hit these ships until they did.
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We never thought in our wildest dreams
that terrorists would strike us
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in the homeland by training
for a year to become pilots
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and then hijacking commercial aircraft
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and crashing them into buildings,
and they did.
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The thing that keeps me up at night,
something in the human psyche that says,
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I don't have time or energy
to sort of prepare for the unforeseen
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or what I've never seen done before,
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and, um, you know,
that leads to strategic surprise
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and sometimes strategic surprises
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change the course of human history.
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There was
one classified briefing
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that I gave to members
of the House and Senate,
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where I took military pilots to tell them
the story of their encounters with UAP.
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Those stories left them so rattled
that they had trouble sleeping that night.
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The United States' most
trusted military servicemen and women
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and irrefutable data from our
intelligence collection systems
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have been observing UAP for decades.
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Everything observed can be categorized
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by five distinct
performance characteristics.
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At AATIP, we call these The Observables.
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The first observable
is hypersonic velocity.
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{\an8}Our current fastest aircraft
can go roughly 4,600 miles per hour.
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{\an8}However, the UAP we are observing
are traveling at 40,000 miles per hour
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{\an8}and sometimes faster.
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The next observable is
instantaneous acceleration,
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the sudden change in velocity.
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At full speed,
the SR-71, known as a Blackbird,
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{\an8}requires roughly half the state of Ohio
to complete its turn.
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{\an8}What we are seeing with UAP are vehicles
that can make immediate right-angle turns,
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instantaneously accelerating
and stopping on a dime
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at speeds up to ten times faster
than the SR-71.
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If you're in a sustained flight,
you can get up to seven-and-a-half Gs.
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{\an8}It gets physically painful over time
to be under that amount of gravity.
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{\an8}And that's just going
from zero to 200 miles an hour
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in about two-and-a-half seconds.
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Now, think of going zero
to thousands of miles an hour
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in less than a second,
what the force would be on your body.
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The human body can only take so much
before the internal organs start
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to separate themselves from everything
they're hooked to, which is usually bad.
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{\an8}Even if it was a drone, it would rip
the drone, the unmanned vehicle apart.
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The next observable
is low observability.
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All modern technology have a signature.
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For example, most aircraft leave
visible contrails as they fly.
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We usually hear a sonic boom associated
with the sound barrier being broken.
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UAP, however, leave almost
no observable signatures.
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{\an8}Our airplanes actually throw out
exhaust behind it and thrust behind it
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to push it forward.
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Whatever these things are,
they're not doing that.
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There is no exhaust, no particles
coming off of 'em that we can see.
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The next observable
is transmedium travel.
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UAP have been observed operating
in space, in air and underwater,
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and they're moving seamlessly
through each of these environments
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without any normal signature
and without compromising performance.
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{\an8}We've observed a transmedium capability
of these phenomenon
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{\an8}to move from space
to the atmosphere to the ocean.
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{\an8}In the Aguadilla, Puerto Rico case,
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{\an8}a DHS helicopter caught
the spherical object flying.
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{\an8}It entered the water and exited the water,
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so transmedium
without losing any velocity.
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{\an8}It goes into the ocean and makes
no splash or wake at 74 miles per hour.
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I calculated how much force you would
require just to propel a basketball
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under the water at 74 miles per hour,
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and you'd need
a BE-7 rocket motor,
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or two Learjet engines
that would churn the water up like crazy.
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So this is a technology
that's frictionless.
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The next
observable is anti-gravity.
460
00:27:17,721 --> 00:27:21,224
UAP seemed to be defying
the natural effects of earth's gravity
461
00:27:21,225 --> 00:27:23,851
without any obvious means of doing so.
462
00:27:23,852 --> 00:27:26,479
No signs of propulsion or lift,
meaning no wings,
463
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,524
no control surfaces
or ability to maneuver.
464
00:27:29,525 --> 00:27:31,150
{\an8}In 2014 to 2015,
465
00:27:31,151 --> 00:27:35,863
{\an8}we were operating off the coast of
Virginia Beach, off the eastern seaboard.
466
00:27:35,864 --> 00:27:39,534
It was during this time that we upgraded
our radar from the APG-73
467
00:27:39,535 --> 00:27:41,119
to the APG-79 radar,
468
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:46,457
and this allowed us to essentially see
more objects we weren't expecting to see.
469
00:27:46,458 --> 00:27:49,127
And there's a particular case
of one of these objects
470
00:27:49,128 --> 00:27:51,629
maintaining a complete stationary position
471
00:27:51,630 --> 00:27:55,675
inside of 120 knot winds,
essentially inside of a hurricane.
472
00:27:55,676 --> 00:27:57,385
{\an8} They're all
going against the wind.
473
00:27:57,386 --> 00:27:59,762
{\an8}The wind's 120 knots from the west.
474
00:27:59,763 --> 00:28:02,223
{\an8}Look at that thing! It's rotating.
475
00:28:02,224 --> 00:28:05,810
It just seems like they're not affected
by the environment the way we are.
476
00:28:05,811 --> 00:28:08,229
They were tracking 'em
from above 80,000 feet.
477
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:10,481
So for those that don't know,
above 80,000,
478
00:28:10,482 --> 00:28:12,650
that's where you start getting into space.
479
00:28:12,651 --> 00:28:13,860
So these things were coming down.
480
00:28:13,861 --> 00:28:16,487
{\an8}They would sit for three hours
and they'd go back up,
481
00:28:16,488 --> 00:28:17,697
{\an8}which to my knowledge,
482
00:28:17,698 --> 00:28:21,409
{\an8}we don't have anything
that has the capabilities
483
00:28:21,410 --> 00:28:24,662
{\an8}as far as the energy required
to come down,
484
00:28:24,663 --> 00:28:26,414
{\an8}hangout for three hours and go up.
485
00:28:26,415 --> 00:28:30,668
{\an8}The observed UAP capability exceeds that
486
00:28:30,669 --> 00:28:34,380
{\an8}of even the most advanced,
uh, human technologies
487
00:28:34,381 --> 00:28:36,716
that are developed
in classified black programs.
488
00:28:36,717 --> 00:28:41,013
From our exposure, I mean,
there's nothing we have that comes close.
489
00:28:42,556 --> 00:28:44,724
There's actually a six observable,
490
00:28:44,725 --> 00:28:50,272
which is not a flight characteristic,
that is biological effects.
491
00:28:51,231 --> 00:28:54,860
{\an8} I got started
working on this actually in this office.
492
00:28:55,944 --> 00:28:57,403
{\an8}There was a knock at the door,
493
00:28:57,404 --> 00:28:59,739
{\an8}and two individuals
who represented themselves
494
00:28:59,740 --> 00:29:04,243
{\an8}as being with the CIA and an aerospace
company came to me and asked for my help.
495
00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:09,874
{\an8}They had, uh, data of military personnel,
intelligence officials
496
00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:12,460
and others associated
with the Department of Defense
497
00:29:12,461 --> 00:29:15,463
who had direct interactions with UAP.
498
00:29:15,464 --> 00:29:20,051
And because of that direct interaction
suffered some kind of medical harm.
499
00:29:20,052 --> 00:29:23,513
They wanted my help to look
at the so-called inflammatory
500
00:29:23,514 --> 00:29:26,098
secondary events
that might be measured in the blood,
501
00:29:26,099 --> 00:29:30,770
anything from the horrific burns that
I've seen on some of the individuals
502
00:29:30,771 --> 00:29:33,981
that leads to secondary problems
with autoimmune diseases
503
00:29:33,982 --> 00:29:35,608
and sclerosis, et cetera,
504
00:29:35,609 --> 00:29:39,237
and then the internal scarring
that I've seen on some individuals.
505
00:29:39,238 --> 00:29:42,949
These people had scarring inside of
their bodies and inside of their brains.
506
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:44,075
And you have to think about it.
507
00:29:44,076 --> 00:29:47,286
You know, if you get too close
to the back end of a jet engine,
508
00:29:47,287 --> 00:29:50,289
or for instance, if you get too close
to the transformer system
509
00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:54,627
that's just powering your neighborhood,
there's energy coming out of those things.
510
00:29:54,628 --> 00:29:56,879
I mean, those are just human technologies.
511
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,508
Now imagine you've got something
which is a more advanced technology,
512
00:30:00,509 --> 00:30:05,471
which is generating some kind of field
that allows these objects to move,
513
00:30:05,472 --> 00:30:08,684
if you get too close to it,
you are gonna get harmed.
514
00:30:10,185 --> 00:30:13,521
{\an8}I spent ten years as an intelligence
officer for the Navy.
515
00:30:13,522 --> 00:30:16,650
{\an8}And before that,
six years as Air Force intelligence.
516
00:30:17,943 --> 00:30:21,112
And I spent time on the UAP task force.
517
00:30:21,113 --> 00:30:23,322
I'm one of the intelligence officials
518
00:30:23,323 --> 00:30:28,536
that has experienced biological effects
of encountering UAP.
519
00:30:28,537 --> 00:30:31,163
Since my first encounter,
520
00:30:31,164 --> 00:30:35,919
I've observed other craft, orbs,
521
00:30:36,086 --> 00:30:38,629
we'll call it exotic energy fields.
522
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:43,301
Unfortunately, um,
those of us who have investigated it,
523
00:30:43,302 --> 00:30:47,680
we become part of the investigation
or investigated by our colleagues.
524
00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:52,560
The population had
about a 25% mortality rate
525
00:30:52,561 --> 00:30:55,438
within seven years
of having an interaction.
526
00:30:55,439 --> 00:30:59,775
Probably important
that the public understands
527
00:30:59,776 --> 00:31:04,363
that this is more than
just an aerial phenomenon.
528
00:31:04,364 --> 00:31:08,492
{\an8}When you have an anecdote
that is accompanied by medical data,
529
00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:13,039
{\an8}that's something that I can hand to
another scientist, another doctor and say,
530
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,832
{\an8}"Here it is. You explain it."
531
00:31:14,833 --> 00:31:19,630
We can argue about what the conclusion is,
but we can't argue that the data is real.
532
00:31:24,968 --> 00:31:26,802
{\an8} The deputy director
of Naval Intelligence,
533
00:31:26,803 --> 00:31:30,473
who understood
the national security concerns of UAP,
534
00:31:30,474 --> 00:31:34,435
directed me to start quietly building out
a whole government interagency effort
535
00:31:34,436 --> 00:31:36,563
that ultimately became the UAP task force.
536
00:31:37,397 --> 00:31:40,483
This new program
was much bigger than AATIP ever was.
537
00:31:40,484 --> 00:31:44,320
Our mission was to detect,
analyze and catalog UAPs
538
00:31:44,321 --> 00:31:47,573
that pose a threat
to US national security.
539
00:31:47,574 --> 00:31:52,953
I had handpicked members from all 16
agencies of the intelligence community.
540
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:55,956
{\an8}The Secretary of Defense formally
announced the UAP task force
541
00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:59,251
{\an8}in August 2020,
naming me the first director.
542
00:31:59,252 --> 00:32:02,255
Everyone in authority was
paying attention to this topic.
543
00:32:03,173 --> 00:32:09,428
One distinctive moment for me was briefing
then Secretary of Treasury, Steve Mnuchin.
544
00:32:09,429 --> 00:32:12,390
I got through my briefing.
And at the end of the brief,
545
00:32:12,391 --> 00:32:15,017
he sat back in his chair
and he said, "You know, Jay,
546
00:32:15,018 --> 00:32:17,603
you may wonder
why I asked for this briefing."
547
00:32:17,604 --> 00:32:22,942
He said, "What are the economic impacts
of the president going to the microphone
548
00:32:22,943 --> 00:32:25,736
and telling the world we're not alone?"
549
00:32:25,737 --> 00:32:30,491
I have to think about those kinds
of impacts in order to prepare
550
00:32:30,492 --> 00:32:33,578
if the president were to make that move.
551
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:36,747
Meanwhile, Chris Mellon and I
552
00:32:36,748 --> 00:32:39,709
were working with the Senate
behind the scenes
553
00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:45,339
to craft UAP legislation
that was then taken by Marco Rubio
554
00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:49,010
and pushed
into the coronavirus relief bill.
555
00:32:49,594 --> 00:32:53,639
When President Trump signed
this legislation into law,
556
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,269
it then forced the Pentagon
and the UAP task force to provide
557
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:02,941
written reports to Congress,
both classified and unclassified.
558
00:33:05,277 --> 00:33:09,572
{\an8}The long-awaited Pentagon report
on UFOs has finally been released.
559
00:33:09,573 --> 00:33:12,032
{\an8}The Director of National Intelligence
just a few days ago
560
00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:14,785
{\an8}released a new report on 144 sightings.
561
00:33:14,786 --> 00:33:16,954
When we talk about sightings,
we're talking about objects
562
00:33:16,955 --> 00:33:19,999
that have been seen
by Navy or Air Force pilots
563
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,293
or have been picked up
by satellite imagery.
564
00:33:22,294 --> 00:33:25,171
Frankly, there are a lot more sightings
than have been made public.
565
00:33:25,172 --> 00:33:27,506
{\an8} The report
clarifies that most incidents
566
00:33:27,507 --> 00:33:29,258
{\an8}over the past two decades
567
00:33:29,259 --> 00:33:35,306
{\an8}are not from the US military or other
advanced US government technology.
568
00:33:35,307 --> 00:33:39,685
{\an8}So the issue now is why are they here,
where are they coming from
569
00:33:39,686 --> 00:33:43,814
and what is the technology
behind these devices that we're observing?
570
00:33:43,815 --> 00:33:46,650
As noisy as that
first unclassified report was,
571
00:33:46,651 --> 00:33:48,360
it barely scratched the surface.
572
00:33:48,361 --> 00:33:51,989
The few elected officials that got to read
the classified version of the report,
573
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:55,826
it opened their eyes to the national
security concerns surrounding this topic.
574
00:33:55,827 --> 00:34:00,372
{\an8}There's enough obvious evidence here
that we need to take this seriously,
575
00:34:00,373 --> 00:34:01,624
{\an8}not downplay it.
576
00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:04,293
{\an8}I don't believe they're coming
from foreign adversaries.
577
00:34:04,294 --> 00:34:08,047
{\an8}Uh, if they were, that would suggest
that they have a technology
578
00:34:08,048 --> 00:34:11,258
{\an8}which is in a whole different sphere
than anything we understand.
579
00:34:11,259 --> 00:34:16,597
{\an8}Uh, frankly, China and Russia aren't there
and neither are we by the way.
580
00:34:16,598 --> 00:34:18,432
{\an8}Trillions of galaxies out there,
581
00:34:18,433 --> 00:34:21,144
{\an8}so who knows what might've
developed somewhere else?
582
00:34:25,816 --> 00:34:31,821
{\an8}What we believe is that
there are unexplained aerial phenomena
583
00:34:31,822 --> 00:34:35,699
{\an8}that have been cited
and reported by pilots,
584
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:37,409
Navy and Air Force,
585
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:42,706
that these phenomena have in some cases
had an impact on our training ranges,
586
00:34:42,707 --> 00:34:48,504
on our pilot's ability to fly,
train, operate and stay ready.
587
00:34:48,505 --> 00:34:55,094
Um, that alone makes it a national
security issue worth looking at.
588
00:34:55,095 --> 00:34:57,096
We don't know.
589
00:34:57,097 --> 00:35:00,308
We don't have the answers
about what these phenomena are.
590
00:35:06,565 --> 00:35:08,315
As we continued
to make progress,
591
00:35:08,316 --> 00:35:14,114
a very powerful
disinformation campaign began.
592
00:35:17,033 --> 00:35:20,787
This effort was to destroy
my reputation and credibility, full stop.
593
00:35:23,331 --> 00:35:25,291
{\an8} When the government started running
594
00:35:25,292 --> 00:35:27,877
{\an8}this despicable disinformation campaign
against Lue,
595
00:35:27,878 --> 00:35:31,672
{\an8}I actually received an email one day
from the Pentagon Public Affairs office
596
00:35:31,673 --> 00:35:34,258
with this narrative
that they were providing back to the media
597
00:35:34,259 --> 00:35:36,260
that was completely false.
598
00:35:36,261 --> 00:35:38,929
I replied all to that email and said,
"This is wrong,"
599
00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:40,348
and they ran with it anyway.
600
00:35:50,317 --> 00:35:54,278
They actually told the American people
that Lue Elizondo did not work there,
601
00:35:54,279 --> 00:35:56,197
and that was an outright lie.
602
00:35:58,033 --> 00:36:00,701
My family and I
suffered greatly for it.
603
00:36:00,702 --> 00:36:04,164
All you have in your life
is really your credibility and your word.
604
00:36:05,624 --> 00:36:06,875
It's heartbreaking.
605
00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:14,590
{\an8}They don't want anybody that's
based on facts being involved in this,
606
00:36:14,591 --> 00:36:15,925
{\an8}so what do they do?
607
00:36:15,926 --> 00:36:20,638
{\an8}They go online and try to belittle
Elizondo and me and anybody else
608
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,183
{\an8}that's trying to do it
in a scientific way.
609
00:36:26,978 --> 00:36:28,187
As hard as it was,
610
00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:31,024
I was still being privately encouraged
by former members of AATIP
611
00:36:31,149 --> 00:36:32,399
to continue the fight,
612
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,028
and so that gave me the motivation
to continue to press forward,
613
00:36:36,029 --> 00:36:38,906
and the fire that we started
continued to spread.
614
00:36:38,907 --> 00:36:41,158
After decades of public denial,
615
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:44,870
the Pentagon now admits
there's something out there,
616
00:36:44,871 --> 00:36:47,748
and the US Senate
wants to know what it is.
617
00:36:47,749 --> 00:36:52,711
UFOs, Unidentified Flying Objects,
are real?
618
00:36:52,712 --> 00:36:55,089
The government has already stated
for the record that they're real.
619
00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:58,008
I'm not telling you that,
the US government is telling you that.
620
00:36:58,009 --> 00:37:02,346
There's footage and records
of objects in the skies
621
00:37:02,347 --> 00:37:05,224
that we don't know exactly what they are.
622
00:37:05,225 --> 00:37:08,894
What's your viewpoint
on what these objects,
623
00:37:08,895 --> 00:37:12,482
uh, that seem to defy
all laws of physics are?
624
00:37:14,109 --> 00:37:18,487
Well, first of all,
that's a legitimate question now.
625
00:37:18,488 --> 00:37:20,656
There are lots of mysteries out there.
626
00:37:20,657 --> 00:37:24,326
It should keep us humble.
There's a lot of stuff we don't know.
627
00:37:24,327 --> 00:37:25,995
{\an8}There've been sightings
all over the world.
628
00:37:25,996 --> 00:37:29,289
{\an8}And when we talk about sightings,
the other thing I will tell you is
629
00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:35,295
{\an8}it's not just a pilot or just a satellite
or some, um, intelligence collection.
630
00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:39,383
{\an8}Usually we have multiple sensors
that are picking up these things.
631
00:37:39,384 --> 00:37:42,469
{\an8}There's always the question of
is there something else
632
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:45,889
{\an8}that we simply do not understand
that might come extra-terrestrially?
633
00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:47,558
{\an8}I think it's a bit presumptuous,
634
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:52,479
{\an8}if not arrogant for us to believe that
there's no other form of life anywhere
635
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,440
in the entire universe.
636
00:37:54,441 --> 00:37:56,692
I've seen some of those videos
from Navy pilots,
637
00:37:56,693 --> 00:37:59,862
and I must tell you
that they are quite eyebrow-raising,
638
00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:04,533
and, um, might in fact be
some type of phenomenon
639
00:38:04,534 --> 00:38:10,122
that is the result of something
that, um, we don't yet understand,
640
00:38:10,123 --> 00:38:15,377
and that could involve
some type of activity
641
00:38:15,378 --> 00:38:18,590
{\an8}that some might say
constitutes a different form of life.
642
00:38:22,093 --> 00:38:27,139
We don't know if the non-human
intelligence that is already here
643
00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:29,391
is exclusively extraterrestrial
644
00:38:29,392 --> 00:38:32,936
or perhaps
some sort of cryptoterrestrial.
645
00:38:32,937 --> 00:38:36,982
Some people who are into
the physics of time travel think
646
00:38:36,983 --> 00:38:39,068
well, maybe they're time travelers.
647
00:38:39,069 --> 00:38:41,528
Even some sort of proto-human
648
00:38:41,529 --> 00:38:45,157
that somehow branched off
from the human family tree long ago
649
00:38:45,158 --> 00:38:47,534
and is as natural
to this planet as we are.
650
00:38:47,535 --> 00:38:50,829
Some ancient civilization
that's sequestered away
651
00:38:50,830 --> 00:38:53,666
somewhere on the Earth
or on the seabed.
652
00:38:54,834 --> 00:38:59,713
We've heard testimonials
from pilots as well as civilians
653
00:38:59,714 --> 00:39:04,802
from different countries having
seen things come from the ocean,
654
00:39:04,803 --> 00:39:09,348
unexplained things, and these aren't
missiles, they aren't rockets,
655
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:11,892
they aren't aircraft or submarines.
656
00:39:11,893 --> 00:39:13,644
These are other-worldly things
657
00:39:13,645 --> 00:39:17,106
that are performing maneuvers
that haven't been seen.
658
00:39:17,107 --> 00:39:21,485
In fact, we have tracked UAP
underwater going at speeds
659
00:39:21,486 --> 00:39:24,321
in excess
of several hundred miles an hour,
660
00:39:24,322 --> 00:39:26,949
but without the associated signatures.
661
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:29,535
{\an8}I retired
as the oceanographer of the Navy,
662
00:39:29,536 --> 00:39:33,623
{\an8}being the senior advisor for the Chief
of Naval Operations in the Pentagon.
663
00:39:34,457 --> 00:39:37,459
{\an8}But our knowledge
of the ocean's rather limited.
664
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:40,880
{\an8}We haven't even explored
80% of the ocean volume.
665
00:39:42,465 --> 00:39:46,552
{\an8}We have mapped the surface of Mars
and the moon to a higher resolution
666
00:39:46,553 --> 00:39:48,011
than the Earth's sea floor.
667
00:39:48,012 --> 00:39:53,058
Is it possible that whatever
we're seeing isn't from out there,
668
00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:55,435
it's from down there?
669
00:39:55,436 --> 00:40:00,899
Are we looking at an entire
world underneath the water?
670
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:04,903
{\an8}I think it's very safe to say that with
so much of the ocean volume unexplored
671
00:40:04,904 --> 00:40:10,242
{\an8}and the sea floor unmapped that
if any intelligence were to arrive here
672
00:40:10,243 --> 00:40:14,997
and not want to be detected,
it would stay in the ocean.
673
00:40:14,998 --> 00:40:20,961
All these possibilities could come
with different intentions and motivations.
674
00:40:20,962 --> 00:40:27,050
Whoever it is, they're here
and they're operating here,
675
00:40:27,051 --> 00:40:29,095
and they have been operating here
for a long time.
676
00:40:39,230 --> 00:40:44,818
In 2022, we started pushing Congress hard
to hold public UAP hearings,
677
00:40:44,819 --> 00:40:47,614
and that's when disclosures
started to get to the next level.
678
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:56,205
{\an8}House panel is holding a public hearing
on mysterious flying objects.
679
00:40:56,206 --> 00:40:58,290
{\an8}The chairman of the House
Intelligence Committee describes this
680
00:40:58,291 --> 00:41:00,834
{\an8}as one of the great mysteries of our time,
681
00:41:00,835 --> 00:41:04,838
{\an8}and it's a big day for all of these people
who have spent so many years
682
00:41:04,839 --> 00:41:07,424
{\an8}pushing for more transparency
into this topic.
683
00:41:07,425 --> 00:41:09,885
{\an8}Out of everything in Congress
and everything happening
684
00:41:09,886 --> 00:41:11,970
{\an8}currently in our country
and world right now,
685
00:41:11,971 --> 00:41:17,434
{\an8}the UAP topic has been
one of the only topics
686
00:41:17,435 --> 00:41:19,686
that's received
this level of bipartisan support.
687
00:41:19,687 --> 00:41:22,231
It's just not an issue,
at least as of yet, in this country
688
00:41:22,232 --> 00:41:25,984
that lends itself to some sort of
partisan or ideological divide.
689
00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:29,781
{\an8}Democrats and Republicans
just want to understand what's going on.
690
00:41:31,366 --> 00:41:33,533
This hearing and oversight work
691
00:41:33,534 --> 00:41:36,078
has a simple idea at its core.
692
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:41,041
{\an8}Unidentified aerial phenomena
are a potential national security threat,
693
00:41:41,042 --> 00:41:43,085
{\an8}and they need to be treated that way.
694
00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:47,422
{\an8}UAPs are unexplained.
It's true, but they are real.
695
00:41:47,423 --> 00:41:49,049
{\an8}They need to be investigated,
696
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:51,927
{\an8}and many threats
they pose need to be mitigated.
697
00:41:51,928 --> 00:41:54,221
{\an8}There is something there
measurable by multiple instruments,
698
00:41:54,222 --> 00:41:57,557
{\an8}and yet it seems to move
in directions that are inconsistent
699
00:41:57,558 --> 00:42:01,144
{\an8}with what we know of physics
or science, more broadly.
700
00:42:01,145 --> 00:42:05,482
{\an8}There are a number of events
in which we do not have an explanation,
701
00:42:05,483 --> 00:42:07,526
{\an8}in which there are flight characteristics
702
00:42:07,527 --> 00:42:11,238
{\an8}or signature management,
um, that we can't explain.
703
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,073
{\an8}We know that our service members
704
00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:17,077
{\an8}have encountered
unidentified aerial phenomenon.
705
00:42:17,078 --> 00:42:21,581
{\an8}And because UAPs pose potential
flight safety and general security risk,
706
00:42:21,582 --> 00:42:25,252
{\an8}we are committed to a focused effort
to determine their origins.
707
00:42:25,253 --> 00:42:26,545
{\an8}The capabilities, systems,
708
00:42:26,546 --> 00:42:31,049
{\an8}processes and sources we use to observe,
record, study or analyze these phenomena
709
00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:33,552
{\an8}need to be classified
at appropriate levels.
710
00:42:33,553 --> 00:42:38,098
{\an8}We do not want, we do not want
potential adversaries to know
711
00:42:38,099 --> 00:42:40,434
exactly what we're able
to see or understand
712
00:42:40,435 --> 00:42:42,811
or how we come
to the conclusions we make.
713
00:42:42,812 --> 00:42:46,690
Therefore, public disclosures
must be carefully considered
714
00:42:46,691 --> 00:42:48,484
on a case-by-case basis.
715
00:42:48,985 --> 00:42:53,655
The hearing was a historic
bipartisan effort towards transparency,
716
00:42:53,656 --> 00:42:56,325
but it left both the American public
and Congress
717
00:42:56,326 --> 00:42:58,327
with more questions than answers.
718
00:42:58,328 --> 00:43:00,037
While I was making progress,
719
00:43:00,038 --> 00:43:04,624
I learned that the Legacy Program was
quietly behind the scenes pushing back,
720
00:43:04,625 --> 00:43:06,585
and they were creating
bureaucratic hurdles.
721
00:43:06,586 --> 00:43:08,337
They were somehow
able to block the funding
722
00:43:08,338 --> 00:43:10,339
that was approved for the UAP task force.
723
00:43:10,340 --> 00:43:12,799
I can't describe it any other way
than I was just angry.
724
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,179
There's this hidden hand that is blocking
all of these actions and things I'm doing.
725
00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:20,265
A subversive government
overriding the real government.
726
00:43:20,266 --> 00:43:23,602
It's so bad that we really
aren't going to make progress
727
00:43:23,603 --> 00:43:25,438
until someone shines the light on them.
728
00:43:27,148 --> 00:43:30,026
Then the staff
and the members start to dig in more.
729
00:43:31,194 --> 00:43:33,695
They begin to understand the landscape.
730
00:43:33,696 --> 00:43:36,823
They begin to understand
how much secrecy there is,
731
00:43:36,824 --> 00:43:39,744
how much resistance there is
to coming clean on this.
732
00:43:42,914 --> 00:43:46,833
As Congress began hearing from
whistleblowers in classified settings,
733
00:43:46,834 --> 00:43:50,046
they came to the realization
of the existence of the Legacy Program.
734
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:56,843
The main players in the Legacy Program
735
00:43:56,844 --> 00:44:00,222
have long been
the Central Intelligence Agency,
736
00:44:00,223 --> 00:44:02,349
the United States Air Force,
737
00:44:02,350 --> 00:44:07,020
{\an8}the Department of Energy,
and major defense contractors.
738
00:44:07,021 --> 00:44:11,150
The Central Intelligence Agency
is responsible for the oversight
739
00:44:11,317 --> 00:44:13,110
of the overall effort.
740
00:44:13,111 --> 00:44:16,571
You might think of them as a little bit
as a headquarters element.
741
00:44:16,572 --> 00:44:19,950
The Deputy Director of Science
and Technology at the CIA
742
00:44:19,951 --> 00:44:23,829
controls the UAP
crash retrieval portfolio.
743
00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:27,874
The United States Air Force
is responsible for field operations.
744
00:44:27,875 --> 00:44:32,546
These are the folks that are responsible
for deploying within moment's notice
745
00:44:32,547 --> 00:44:38,136
anywhere in the world to go
secure and retrieve crashed UAP.
746
00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:46,143
{\an8}We have intelligence teams
quickly notified if there's some UAP event
747
00:44:46,144 --> 00:44:50,480
that might involve a crashed vehicle
or pieces from a crashed vehicle.
748
00:44:50,481 --> 00:44:53,316
The United States Air Force
uses their own special forces,
749
00:44:53,317 --> 00:44:56,236
but they also coordinate
with other special forces
750
00:44:56,237 --> 00:44:58,030
in other branches of US military.
751
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:03,660
They're so well organized
that they basically can get to a site,
752
00:45:03,661 --> 00:45:08,457
gather material, whatever it is,
and once it's in their possession,
753
00:45:08,458 --> 00:45:12,586
they have the authority to classify it,
754
00:45:12,587 --> 00:45:16,423
and therefore make any information
about it unavailable to the public,
755
00:45:16,424 --> 00:45:20,178
even admission that it exists
unavailable to the public.
756
00:45:21,053 --> 00:45:23,346
The defense contractors,
757
00:45:23,347 --> 00:45:27,392
they're responsible for the exploitation
and the reverse engineering
758
00:45:27,393 --> 00:45:28,977
and analysis of the materials.
759
00:45:28,978 --> 00:45:32,189
They provide technical
and advisory services
760
00:45:32,190 --> 00:45:33,899
that the government doesn't have.
761
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,277
And last but not least
is the Department of Energy.
762
00:45:37,278 --> 00:45:41,990
They are the world's experts in anything
that is related to either atomic
763
00:45:41,991 --> 00:45:45,869
or nuclear technology
or anything that gives off radiation.
764
00:45:45,870 --> 00:45:48,788
But there's another advantage
because the Department of Energy
765
00:45:48,789 --> 00:45:51,958
has its own security
classification system
766
00:45:51,959 --> 00:45:56,421
well outside the overview
and oversight, if you will,
767
00:45:56,422 --> 00:46:00,800
of traditional classification systems
like the Department of Defense
768
00:46:00,801 --> 00:46:02,636
or the intelligence community.
769
00:46:02,637 --> 00:46:07,974
They've used the security
and classification language
770
00:46:07,975 --> 00:46:13,231
in the Atomic Energy Act to hide
the Legacy crash retrieval program.
771
00:46:16,275 --> 00:46:20,070
{\an8}The intelligence officials
that have briefed on these
772
00:46:20,071 --> 00:46:24,616
{\an8}crash retrievals have talked
about a number of different species
773
00:46:24,617 --> 00:46:27,452
{\an8}having been observed
to be associated with the crash.
774
00:46:27,453 --> 00:46:30,540
{\an8}Bodies recovered
are not all of the same type.
775
00:46:32,250 --> 00:46:36,169
{\an8}I'm aware of at least
two advanced non-human species,
776
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:40,132
{\an8}one of which made contact
with the Legacy crash retrieval program.
777
00:46:40,925 --> 00:46:45,011
The other of which, the bodies were
recovered by the crash retrieval program
778
00:46:45,012 --> 00:46:46,805
in various crashes.
779
00:46:46,806 --> 00:46:48,807
One of the questions is often raised,
780
00:46:48,808 --> 00:46:51,393
if they're so advanced,
why are there crashes?
781
00:46:51,394 --> 00:46:53,895
But of course, I mean, you know,
782
00:46:53,896 --> 00:46:56,690
cars are well made
and people drive them carefully,
783
00:46:56,691 --> 00:46:59,985
but there are crashes. It can happen.
784
00:46:59,986 --> 00:47:04,906
Another option that's being considered
is that maybe some of these
785
00:47:04,907 --> 00:47:07,617
were not "really crashes,"
786
00:47:07,618 --> 00:47:12,080
but that they were left here
for us to examine
787
00:47:12,081 --> 00:47:16,001
in order to advance
our technology forward at a faster pace.
788
00:47:16,002 --> 00:47:21,089
So in that sense, they can be seen
as gifts from a more intelligent species.
789
00:47:21,090 --> 00:47:24,551
One of the questions that would
then be raised would be, well,
790
00:47:24,552 --> 00:47:29,598
are gifts distributed differently
among different nations
791
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:33,393
or more or less homogeneously
792
00:47:33,394 --> 00:47:37,939
to see who survives
and makes progress the fastest?
793
00:47:37,940 --> 00:47:41,986
It could be a giant IQ test,
you might say.
794
00:47:46,282 --> 00:47:48,533
As we brought
whistleblowers to Congress,
795
00:47:48,534 --> 00:47:54,122
we learned that the Legacy Program
was involved in a long running secret war
796
00:47:54,123 --> 00:47:58,376
with other nations
to collect and reverse engineer
797
00:47:58,377 --> 00:48:02,256
vehicles not made by humans.
798
00:48:06,135 --> 00:48:09,012
In this secret theater of war,
799
00:48:09,013 --> 00:48:15,519
the US has both allies and adversaries
in a winner takes all scenario.
800
00:48:17,146 --> 00:48:21,316
This is a very complicated
geopolitical landscape,
801
00:48:21,317 --> 00:48:26,197
where alliances and allegiances
shift like sand in the desert.
802
00:48:27,573 --> 00:48:32,285
{\an8}We would certainly prefer
a situation where the retrieval
803
00:48:32,286 --> 00:48:37,457
{\an8}is either in international waters
or some other uncontested location
804
00:48:37,458 --> 00:48:39,501
or maybe in an allied country,
805
00:48:39,502 --> 00:48:44,005
but every country in the world
would do everything in their power
806
00:48:44,006 --> 00:48:47,384
to try to retrieve
an exquisite piece of technology.
807
00:48:47,385 --> 00:48:50,470
The first country that cracks
the code on this technology
808
00:48:50,471 --> 00:48:52,347
will be the leader for years to come.
809
00:48:52,348 --> 00:48:54,015
This is similar to the Manhattan Project.
810
00:48:54,016 --> 00:48:55,308
We developed the atomic weapon.
811
00:48:55,309 --> 00:48:58,896
We won the war, and it made us
a superpower for almost a century now.
812
00:49:00,314 --> 00:49:02,399
This is the atomic weapon on steroids.
813
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,487
Some of the craft observed could be
the result of say our Legacy Program,
814
00:49:07,488 --> 00:49:11,449
or on the other hand,
it might be the result of advancements
815
00:49:11,450 --> 00:49:13,451
made by potential adversaries.
816
00:49:13,452 --> 00:49:18,707
{\an8}We have seen highly credible
US government intelligence
817
00:49:18,708 --> 00:49:23,795
on the Soviet recovery
of a crashed UAP in 1989.
818
00:49:23,796 --> 00:49:28,717
They recovered a Tic-Tac shaped UAP
that was twice as big as the Tic Tac
819
00:49:28,718 --> 00:49:32,095
that was encountered
by the USS Nimitz carrier strike group,
820
00:49:32,096 --> 00:49:37,267
and they did recover
four bodies of humanoid aliens.
821
00:49:37,268 --> 00:49:41,354
The Soviet scientists
took apart the recovered craft
822
00:49:41,355 --> 00:49:47,193
and discovered a very advanced
directed energy weapon.
823
00:49:47,194 --> 00:49:49,404
China is at the top of everybody's list
824
00:49:49,405 --> 00:49:51,990
of concern right now
in the Defense Department.
825
00:49:51,991 --> 00:49:56,035
Some of this UAP activity
we are seeing here in the United States
826
00:49:56,036 --> 00:49:57,954
may actually be a result
827
00:49:57,955 --> 00:50:02,042
of a Chinese UAP
reverse engineering program.
828
00:50:03,169 --> 00:50:07,338
{\an8}If Xi Jinping had access to this,
if Putin had access to this,
829
00:50:07,339 --> 00:50:10,258
{\an8}and they thought
that we did not have access
830
00:50:10,259 --> 00:50:13,928
{\an8}to similar capabilities
than what they did,
831
00:50:13,929 --> 00:50:17,056
do you think for a second
that they wouldn't consider
832
00:50:17,057 --> 00:50:19,476
using it to achieve
their ends of domination?
833
00:50:19,477 --> 00:50:22,520
And if their
approach to it is driven by science
834
00:50:22,521 --> 00:50:25,064
and a desire to match
what they think is ours,
835
00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:26,941
we'll wake up one day and realize,
836
00:50:26,942 --> 00:50:29,152
I don't know how they got there,
but they got there ahead of us,
837
00:50:29,153 --> 00:50:30,737
and now we're screwed.
838
00:50:30,738 --> 00:50:35,867
This technology can absolutely either
revolutionize the way we do things
839
00:50:35,868 --> 00:50:39,329
or completely destroy
everything that we know.
840
00:50:39,330 --> 00:50:43,792
It often reminds me of the famous speech
by President John F. Kennedy
841
00:50:43,793 --> 00:50:47,670
when we were
right at the threshold of entering
842
00:50:47,671 --> 00:50:51,466
into a new era of discovery in space.
843
00:50:51,467 --> 00:50:55,970
{\an8}There is new knowledge to be gained
and new rights to be won,
844
00:50:55,971 --> 00:51:01,518
{\an8}and they must be won
and used for the progress of all people,
845
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:06,105
for space science
like nuclear science and all technology
846
00:51:06,106 --> 00:51:08,108
has no conscience of its own.
847
00:51:08,984 --> 00:51:13,863
Whether it will become a force
for good or ill depends on man.
848
00:51:13,864 --> 00:51:20,495
And only if the United States
occupies a position of preeminence
849
00:51:20,496 --> 00:51:27,293
can we help decide whether this
new ocean will be a sea of peace
850
00:51:27,294 --> 00:51:30,256
or a new terrifying theater of war.
851
00:51:31,799 --> 00:51:36,344
{\an8}Some of this is so secret,
there have been very, very few people
852
00:51:36,345 --> 00:51:40,516
{\an8}in our entire government that have
been allowed or provided access to it.
853
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:46,980
Some presidents have been briefed
on the basic facts about the situation,
854
00:51:46,981 --> 00:51:49,607
but they are not provided
with all the details.
855
00:51:49,608 --> 00:51:51,401
I think there's
this assumption that presidents
856
00:51:51,402 --> 00:51:53,862
can walk in the Oval Office
on day one and say,
857
00:51:53,863 --> 00:51:56,030
"All right, take me to Roswell.
Show me the alien bodies."
858
00:51:56,031 --> 00:51:57,824
{\an8}"I want to see the video, the autopsy.
I want to see the whole thing."
859
00:51:57,825 --> 00:51:58,909
{\an8}"Open it up."
860
00:51:59,034 --> 00:52:01,411
{\an8}I think that really is a, um--
861
00:52:01,412 --> 00:52:06,584
{\an8}A naive understanding
of how our government works.
862
00:52:08,419 --> 00:52:12,964
Even presidents have often been
operating on a need-to-know basis.
863
00:52:12,965 --> 00:52:15,258
That's certainly true
from historic standpoint.
864
00:52:15,259 --> 00:52:18,219
The rationale, the justification was,
865
00:52:18,220 --> 00:52:20,471
the president shouldn't know
about these things because that way
866
00:52:20,472 --> 00:52:22,515
the president always has deniability.
867
00:52:22,516 --> 00:52:25,143
All they need is a nod
in this direction or in that direction,
868
00:52:25,144 --> 00:52:27,437
but that begins
to ramp out of control.
869
00:52:27,438 --> 00:52:29,898
Frankly, I don't even know
if president would know who to ask.
870
00:52:29,899 --> 00:52:31,900
You could go to the director of the CIA,
871
00:52:31,901 --> 00:52:34,736
nowadays, the director
of National Intelligence, and ask them,
872
00:52:34,737 --> 00:52:38,364
and even that person may not know
because those people rotate,
873
00:52:38,365 --> 00:52:41,826
but people three layers underneath them
that are there for 30 years,
874
00:52:41,827 --> 00:52:44,787
to them, it's like, "I've seen
these people come and go."
875
00:52:44,788 --> 00:52:46,623
"I have no obligation
to tell them it exists."
876
00:52:46,624 --> 00:52:47,916
It just never percolates up.
877
00:52:47,917 --> 00:52:51,210
A lot of people have this assumption
that the director of CIA's
878
00:52:51,211 --> 00:52:52,712
right onto everything
and knows everything.
879
00:52:52,713 --> 00:52:54,923
The director of CIA
is a political appointee.
880
00:52:54,924 --> 00:52:57,675
Quite frankly,
they're temporary help,
881
00:52:57,676 --> 00:53:00,637
whereas the Director
of Science Technology at CIA,
882
00:53:00,638 --> 00:53:02,513
this is a career
intelligence professional,
883
00:53:02,514 --> 00:53:04,474
that's where you're gonna put the program.
884
00:53:04,475 --> 00:53:07,268
I had a few private conversations
885
00:53:07,269 --> 00:53:10,730
with former president
George Herbert Walker Bush in 2003
886
00:53:10,731 --> 00:53:13,441
in which he told me that
887
00:53:13,442 --> 00:53:16,694
when he became the CIA director
in the Ford administration,
888
00:53:16,695 --> 00:53:21,908
he was not briefed on the
Legacy UAP crash retrieval program.
889
00:53:21,909 --> 00:53:25,036
{\an8}But he later found out about it,
and he informed me
890
00:53:25,037 --> 00:53:27,789
{\an8}that there were a number
of crash retrievals that had taken place
891
00:53:27,790 --> 00:53:30,500
since the mid-1940s.
892
00:53:30,501 --> 00:53:32,585
And he also informed me
893
00:53:32,586 --> 00:53:36,923
{\an8}of a UAP event that took place
at Holloman Air Force Base in 1964,
894
00:53:36,924 --> 00:53:40,593
{\an8}where three UAPs approached
the Air Force Base.
895
00:53:40,594 --> 00:53:43,054
{\an8}One of them landed on the tarmac.
896
00:53:43,055 --> 00:53:48,184
And a non-human entity
deboarded the craft that landed
897
00:53:48,185 --> 00:53:53,940
and interacted with uniformed Air Force
and civilian CIA personnel.
898
00:53:53,941 --> 00:53:55,692
And when he asked for more details,
899
00:53:55,693 --> 00:53:58,153
he was told that
he did not have a need to know.
900
00:53:59,697 --> 00:54:03,783
{\an8}I served over 30 years
as a Army Green Beret
901
00:54:03,784 --> 00:54:08,246
{\an8}in the United States Army.
I ended my career as Secretary of Defense.
902
00:54:08,247 --> 00:54:13,334
Some intelligence official decided,
I, the acting Secretary of Defense,
903
00:54:13,335 --> 00:54:16,422
did not have a need to know
about the UAP topic.
904
00:54:17,006 --> 00:54:19,090
{\an8} Several of
my colleagues participated
905
00:54:19,091 --> 00:54:22,385
{\an8}in a panel organized
by the George Bush administration
906
00:54:22,386 --> 00:54:25,639
when the administration contemplated
going public with disclosure.
907
00:54:25,806 --> 00:54:30,601
{\an8}What it was a group of ten or 12 people
from intelligence agencies,
908
00:54:30,602 --> 00:54:33,312
{\an8}from the military, some business people,
909
00:54:33,313 --> 00:54:36,941
and they said, "Here's what's going on."
910
00:54:36,942 --> 00:54:43,322
"The Americans, the Russians,
and Chinese all have crash retrieved craft
911
00:54:43,323 --> 00:54:45,158
from some other civilization,
912
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:48,494
and there's some belief at this point
913
00:54:48,495 --> 00:54:50,621
that maybe
this should be revealed to the public,
914
00:54:50,622 --> 00:54:54,417
and we want to know
what would the consequences be?"
915
00:54:54,418 --> 00:54:57,086
This is a topic
that has a potential to create
916
00:54:57,087 --> 00:55:01,382
serious ontological shock to society.
917
00:55:01,383 --> 00:55:03,092
It's not just national security.
918
00:55:03,093 --> 00:55:09,474
It's psychological, it's sociological,
it's theological and it's philosophical.
919
00:55:09,475 --> 00:55:11,017
{\an8}It's undermining in many ways,
920
00:55:11,018 --> 00:55:14,604
{\an8}it's troubling to a lot of people to say
that there's something else out there
921
00:55:14,605 --> 00:55:17,356
{\an8}either otherworldly, interdimensional.
922
00:55:17,357 --> 00:55:21,611
I think unfortunately
it goes against our traditions,
923
00:55:21,612 --> 00:55:24,447
our cultural traditions,
our religious traditions,
924
00:55:24,448 --> 00:55:27,618
and it challenges
the beliefs of a lot of people.
925
00:55:28,869 --> 00:55:33,790
The Vatican has irrefutable evidence
that non-human intelligence exists.
926
00:55:33,791 --> 00:55:36,334
Although publicly
they don't want to acknowledge it,
927
00:55:36,335 --> 00:55:38,837
{\an8}privately,
they are very well aware of this.
928
00:55:40,589 --> 00:55:44,467
{\an8}What happens when society realizes
everything it's been taught
929
00:55:44,468 --> 00:55:49,013
about the entire history of our species
has been wrong
930
00:55:49,014 --> 00:55:53,768
and everybody learns all at once
that we're not the top of the food chain?
931
00:55:53,769 --> 00:55:56,145
We're not the alpha predators.
932
00:55:56,146 --> 00:56:00,274
It would be a shakeup for institutions,
933
00:56:00,275 --> 00:56:05,113
it'd be a shakeup for norms,
it'd be a shakeup in society.
934
00:56:05,114 --> 00:56:09,909
{\an8}One has to be careful
and one has to remember
935
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:11,285
{\an8}that it's conceivable
936
00:56:11,286 --> 00:56:14,914
{\an8}that there's something
that's so disturbing or disruptive
937
00:56:14,915 --> 00:56:18,835
or negative that there is a rationale
938
00:56:18,836 --> 00:56:22,463
for not immediately disclosing
all of that information.
939
00:56:22,464 --> 00:56:25,758
We actually came up
with a list of 64 areas
940
00:56:25,759 --> 00:56:30,388
that really would be impacted to some
significant degree by such a disclosure.
941
00:56:30,389 --> 00:56:34,976
We add up all the numbers, it looks
like this would be kind of a bad idea.
942
00:56:34,977 --> 00:56:39,772
Did you go through the secret files,
the UFO documents?
943
00:56:39,773 --> 00:56:42,483
Now that you're out of office,
you can do anything you want, right?
944
00:56:42,484 --> 00:56:44,569
That's true. Yeah.
945
00:56:44,570 --> 00:56:46,113
Uh, but I'm not telling you.
946
00:56:49,116 --> 00:56:53,077
{\an8}Without a doubt,
there's hardly been any program
947
00:56:53,078 --> 00:56:58,207
{\an8}that has been so successfully
kept out of the public eye
948
00:56:58,208 --> 00:57:02,128
{\an8}as anything like crash retrievals
of unknown craft.
949
00:57:02,129 --> 00:57:06,757
This line of strong control started
950
00:57:06,758 --> 00:57:11,262
{\an8}at least in the Truman administration
with the Roswell crash.
951
00:57:11,263 --> 00:57:14,557
{\an8}In AATIP, we learned that the UAP event
952
00:57:14,558 --> 00:57:20,313
at the US Army airfield
in Roswell in 1947 did actually occur.
953
00:57:20,314 --> 00:57:23,316
It was described to be
a boot-heel shaped UAP
954
00:57:23,317 --> 00:57:26,444
that broke into two pieces on impact.
955
00:57:26,445 --> 00:57:29,447
And observers saw
what looked like hieroglyphics
956
00:57:29,448 --> 00:57:30,698
or some type of writing on it.
957
00:57:30,699 --> 00:57:33,618
You might describe 'em
as runes or glyphs, hieroglyphs,
958
00:57:33,619 --> 00:57:35,578
that were actually on the craft itself.
959
00:57:35,579 --> 00:57:40,458
And within that crash,
non-human bodies were recovered.
960
00:57:40,459 --> 00:57:45,046
Four non-human bodies were recovered
from the UAP crash at Roswell.
961
00:57:45,047 --> 00:57:47,965
The recovered material
rom the crash, including the bodies,
962
00:57:47,966 --> 00:57:49,634
were all sent up to Wright Field,
963
00:57:49,635 --> 00:57:52,511
which is now called
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
964
00:57:52,512 --> 00:57:55,390
That's where the US had
their best reverse engineers.
965
00:57:56,808 --> 00:58:00,102
Think about the context
for everything in 1947.
966
00:58:00,103 --> 00:58:02,813
The US had just won World War II
967
00:58:02,814 --> 00:58:07,277
and was entering into
a Cold War with the USSR.
968
00:58:09,154 --> 00:58:16,035
These UAP presented a technology
of unfathomable power.
969
00:58:16,036 --> 00:58:20,998
It was imperative that the US be able
to reverse engineer this new technology
970
00:58:20,999 --> 00:58:24,168
before anybody else or before
anybody else even knew about it.
971
00:58:24,169 --> 00:58:26,921
You can't tell your friends
without telling your enemies.
972
00:58:26,922 --> 00:58:31,259
That's a key component to every decision
as to what we do or do not release.
973
00:58:31,260 --> 00:58:32,677
Back in 1947,
974
00:58:32,678 --> 00:58:36,430
{\an8}when they looked at this and they realized
it was real and they realized
975
00:58:36,431 --> 00:58:38,849
{\an8}they had no idea what it was.
976
00:58:38,850 --> 00:58:42,353
{\an8}This was something you couldn't
just talk about because the role
977
00:58:42,354 --> 00:58:45,356
{\an8}of the President of the United States
and the role of the military
978
00:58:45,357 --> 00:58:48,442
{\an8}is to defend the United States
and to protect its citizens.
979
00:58:48,443 --> 00:58:51,028
If this is something
that they can't protect against,
980
00:58:51,029 --> 00:58:53,572
they're not gonna come out and say it.
They're not gonna scare anybody.
981
00:58:53,573 --> 00:58:56,784
They don't want to tell
the American public about the threat
982
00:58:56,785 --> 00:58:58,662
because there's nothing
they can do about it.
983
00:58:59,705 --> 00:59:04,417
It was only a couple months after
Roswell that President Truman signed
984
00:59:04,418 --> 00:59:06,335
the National Security Act of 1947,
985
00:59:06,336 --> 00:59:11,299
which established both the Air Force
and the Central Intelligence Agency.
986
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:14,927
That was the start point in which
both the CIA and the Air Force
987
00:59:14,928 --> 00:59:19,181
began to take
operational control of the UAP topic.
988
00:59:19,182 --> 00:59:21,934
But it wasn't until
a couple of years later
989
00:59:21,935 --> 00:59:25,438
when Truman signed
the Central Intelligence Agency Act
990
00:59:25,439 --> 00:59:28,691
that really allowed, endorsed the CIA
991
00:59:28,692 --> 00:59:31,736
to be able to run
secret intelligence operations
992
00:59:31,737 --> 00:59:34,322
outside the normal
routine oversight channels.
993
00:59:34,323 --> 00:59:37,951
Basically be able to run operations
without anybody knowing.
994
00:59:39,161 --> 00:59:42,705
From Roswell on,
the strategy for dealing with the public
995
00:59:42,706 --> 00:59:46,334
and ensuring US secrecy is maintained
996
00:59:46,335 --> 00:59:50,921
was to basically adopt the strategy
of deny everything, admit nothing,
997
00:59:50,922 --> 00:59:52,882
make counter accusations,
998
00:59:52,883 --> 00:59:57,011
put out false narratives,
intimidate and discredit witnesses.
999
00:59:57,012 --> 01:00:00,514
In essence, deny, deny, deny.
1000
01:00:00,515 --> 01:00:03,309
Establish stigma surrounding this topic
1001
01:00:03,310 --> 01:00:05,478
in order to prevent
any type of disclosure.
1002
01:00:05,479 --> 01:00:12,485
Executive Order 12333 bans covert action
to influence the public and the media,
1003
01:00:12,486 --> 01:00:16,614
but the Legacy crash retrieval program
has been ignoring that.
1004
01:00:16,615 --> 01:00:20,951
In fact, they are aggressively
influencing public opinion
1005
01:00:20,952 --> 01:00:23,871
by using an active
disinformation campaign.
1006
01:00:23,872 --> 01:00:28,584
{\an8}To create a tradition of disbelief,
where you basically start very early,
1007
01:00:28,585 --> 01:00:31,504
{\an8}"Nah, nah, everybody
who sees UFOs are crackpots,"
1008
01:00:31,505 --> 01:00:34,673
{\an8}and then that gets built in,
you know, to the media enterprise,
1009
01:00:34,674 --> 01:00:38,135
it gets built into Hollywood,
it gets built into the public.
1010
01:00:38,136 --> 01:00:41,514
CIA funded Hollywood movies
in order to create that ridicule factor
1011
01:00:41,515 --> 01:00:42,973
that they still use to this day.
1012
01:00:42,974 --> 01:00:47,728
{\an8}Do you believe that the recent spike
in UFO encounters--
1013
01:00:47,729 --> 01:00:50,356
{\an8}I get the UFO question?
1014
01:00:50,357 --> 01:00:52,691
{\an8}- Yeah, you do!
- Come on, man!
1015
01:00:52,692 --> 01:00:55,194
{\an8}I'm not--
1016
01:00:55,195 --> 01:00:56,821
- Would you tell us?
- I'm just--
1017
01:00:56,822 --> 01:01:00,324
You know, I loved E.T. the movie,
but I'm just gonna leave it there.
1018
01:01:00,325 --> 01:01:04,120
Up until very recently, there was
zero incentive for a naval aviator
1019
01:01:04,121 --> 01:01:05,913
to come forward and say,
"This is what I saw."
1020
01:01:05,914 --> 01:01:09,041
And honestly, up until very recently,
there was zero incentive for a US Senator
1021
01:01:09,042 --> 01:01:10,793
to talk about it
because people would think,
1022
01:01:10,794 --> 01:01:12,545
"What's wrong? This guy's a weirdo."
1023
01:01:12,546 --> 01:01:15,297
Over the years, military service members,
1024
01:01:15,298 --> 01:01:18,843
intelligence officials and even
private citizens have been ridiculed
1025
01:01:18,844 --> 01:01:22,263
and made to look crazy to the point
where people have lost their jobs,
1026
01:01:22,264 --> 01:01:24,265
they've lost their ability
to provide for their families,
1027
01:01:24,266 --> 01:01:26,183
they lost their security clearances.
1028
01:01:26,184 --> 01:01:30,688
These people had their lives ruined
simply because they spoke the truth
1029
01:01:30,689 --> 01:01:33,315
about what they learned or what they saw.
1030
01:01:33,316 --> 01:01:35,609
{\an8}People that come forward with this,
1031
01:01:35,610 --> 01:01:39,613
{\an8}um, I feel like they've taken
their life in their own hands.
1032
01:01:39,614 --> 01:01:42,283
{\an8}People say, well, government
can't keep a secret.
1033
01:01:42,284 --> 01:01:44,201
{\an8}Well, there are a number of
programs I've been involved in
1034
01:01:44,202 --> 01:01:47,037
{\an8}that have never gotten revealed.
1035
01:01:47,038 --> 01:01:51,208
The truth of the matter is
people and programs can be kept secret.
1036
01:01:51,209 --> 01:01:54,628
Usually it's just out of personal,
wanting to protect oneself.
1037
01:01:54,629 --> 01:01:58,674
This is the most successful
disinformation campaign
1038
01:01:58,675 --> 01:02:01,093
in the history of the US government.
1039
01:02:01,094 --> 01:02:04,513
The irony in this is that
the deception campaign
1040
01:02:04,514 --> 01:02:07,600
to create stigma was so successful
1041
01:02:07,601 --> 01:02:11,645
it actually inadvertently
created a new unforeseen problem.
1042
01:02:11,646 --> 01:02:15,316
{\an8}Stigma has been a tremendous problem
1043
01:02:15,317 --> 01:02:18,736
{\an8}that it's actually a national
security threat to the United States.
1044
01:02:18,737 --> 01:02:23,824
Other countries are not suffering
from the stigma that we are,
1045
01:02:23,825 --> 01:02:29,538
so we are already, as Americans,
at a disadvantage.
1046
01:02:29,539 --> 01:02:33,417
How can we expect
to maintain a strategic advantage
1047
01:02:33,418 --> 01:02:37,463
when 99.999% of all scientists here
in this country
1048
01:02:37,464 --> 01:02:39,298
don't even think it's real?
1049
01:02:39,299 --> 01:02:42,259
{\an8}Science moves forward on the basis
of exchanging information,
1050
01:02:42,260 --> 01:02:47,723
{\an8}and when it's all tied up and held down,
you just can't make progress.
1051
01:02:47,724 --> 01:02:52,561
You had information being locked away
that frankly could improve the lives
1052
01:02:52,562 --> 01:02:58,151
of every human being on this planet
and change the trajectory for our species.
1053
01:03:00,028 --> 01:03:03,405
This information was
and is still being locked down
1054
01:03:03,406 --> 01:03:05,574
by the Legacy crash retrieval program.
1055
01:03:05,575 --> 01:03:09,578
Too much information resides
in different stove pipes.
1056
01:03:09,579 --> 01:03:13,749
It's controlled by different baronies
and different fiefdoms spread throughout
1057
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:15,334
the National Security kingdom.
1058
01:03:15,335 --> 01:03:17,628
They each view information as power.
1059
01:03:17,629 --> 01:03:20,130
They're each reluctant
to share information.
1060
01:03:20,131 --> 01:03:22,883
They hoard it.
They like to trade it like a currency.
1061
01:03:22,884 --> 01:03:27,137
All of these things conspire to prevent us
1062
01:03:27,138 --> 01:03:31,433
from getting the big picture
and bringing the information together.
1063
01:03:31,434 --> 01:03:34,520
It's worth noting
that the Air Force didn't contribute,
1064
01:03:34,521 --> 01:03:41,485
uh, any or maybe just
a tiny number of, uh, reports of UAPs.
1065
01:03:41,486 --> 01:03:45,030
Notwithstanding the fact
that the Air Force controls
1066
01:03:45,031 --> 01:03:47,783
the North American
Aerospace Defense Command,
1067
01:03:47,784 --> 01:03:50,828
they're responsible
for space surveillance.
1068
01:03:50,829 --> 01:03:53,914
They have aircraft
with superior radar systems
1069
01:03:53,915 --> 01:03:56,500
operating in the same training ranges
1070
01:03:56,501 --> 01:03:59,712
where the Navy is seeing
and reporting these aircraft,
1071
01:03:59,713 --> 01:04:03,591
and yet they claim
they don't have evidence of this.
1072
01:04:03,592 --> 01:04:05,217
Imagine we had a situation
1073
01:04:05,218 --> 01:04:08,637
where we're saying there are
unidentified submarines
1074
01:04:08,638 --> 01:04:11,223
off the coast of the United States,
1075
01:04:11,224 --> 01:04:13,559
and the only reports we got
were from the Air Force
1076
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,812
and the Navy had nothing to say about it.
1077
01:04:16,646 --> 01:04:19,356
During the George
W. Bush administration,
1078
01:04:19,357 --> 01:04:24,153
the president routinely went down
to his ranch in Stephenville, Texas,
1079
01:04:24,154 --> 01:04:28,491
{\an8}and I see reporting of UAP activity
over the ranch.
1080
01:04:29,409 --> 01:04:34,663
{\an8}F-16s from a nearby Air Force base
were alerted to intercept this object.
1081
01:04:34,664 --> 01:04:36,999
People on the ground saw it.
1082
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,462
So I go down and I start asking
questions, "Hey, what did you chase?"
1083
01:04:41,463 --> 01:04:43,464
"I'm acting on behalf
of the US government,
1084
01:04:43,465 --> 01:04:46,091
and we're trying
to understand what you saw."
1085
01:04:46,092 --> 01:04:49,803
And they look me in the eyes and said,
"Jay, we cannot tell you what we saw
1086
01:04:49,804 --> 01:04:53,474
because the OSI, Air Force
Office of Special Investigations,
1087
01:04:53,475 --> 01:04:56,185
came in here, had us sign
non-disclosure agreements."
1088
01:04:56,186 --> 01:04:58,228
"We did see something,
we did scramble on something,
1089
01:04:58,229 --> 01:04:59,605
but we can't talk to you about it."
1090
01:04:59,606 --> 01:05:04,068
Historically, every time
a military member had a UAP encounter,
1091
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:06,654
it was very quickly swept under the rug,
1092
01:05:06,655 --> 01:05:08,489
and they were discouraged
from talking about it.
1093
01:05:08,490 --> 01:05:11,742
{\an8}They put a form down
as a non-disclosure form.
1094
01:05:11,743 --> 01:05:14,953
{\an8}He came storming across to me.
He said, "Don't you ever say that again."
1095
01:05:14,954 --> 01:05:16,497
{\an8}"You don't ever speak of this."
1096
01:05:16,498 --> 01:05:17,956
{\an8}And it made it very clear
that it's something
1097
01:05:17,957 --> 01:05:21,460
{\an8}we shouldn't be talking about
and just keep our mouth shut.
1098
01:05:21,461 --> 01:05:24,088
{\an8}There was a culture of silence.
1099
01:05:24,089 --> 01:05:25,422
{\an8}I didn't talk to anybody about it,
1100
01:05:25,423 --> 01:05:28,842
{\an8}not my wife, not my colleagues,
not people I knew. They just shut up.
1101
01:05:28,843 --> 01:05:31,595
{\an8}There's ramifications
if you were to divulge
1102
01:05:31,596 --> 01:05:33,390
{\an8}any of this information to anyone.
1103
01:05:36,893 --> 01:05:40,604
{\an8}We received an alarm
at our closest missile site.
1104
01:05:40,605 --> 01:05:46,985
There was an object directly above
that ICBM nuclear missile,
1105
01:05:46,986 --> 01:05:49,196
right on top of the blast door.
1106
01:05:49,197 --> 01:05:52,116
No noise, no sound whatsoever.
1107
01:05:52,117 --> 01:05:55,327
And it looked like
a mini sun sitting in the air.
1108
01:05:55,328 --> 01:05:58,288
It was the size
of a Super Walmart building.
1109
01:05:58,289 --> 01:06:00,624
{\an8}Not just a Walmart,
I mean a Super Walmart.
1110
01:06:00,625 --> 01:06:02,209
{\an8}This thing was gargantuan.
1111
01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:06,630
{\an8}And how it could suspend itself was just
completely unnatural to what we know of
1112
01:06:06,631 --> 01:06:08,591
{\an8}as anything that can fly or hover.
1113
01:06:13,263 --> 01:06:18,726
{\an8}The captain was looking,
just looking up with his mouth open.
1114
01:06:18,727 --> 01:06:21,186
{\an8}And I look up and I see
1115
01:06:21,187 --> 01:06:24,149
this object right over
the missile launch tube.
1116
01:06:26,735 --> 01:06:31,698
Multifaceted, matte black finish,
an oddly shaped diamond.
1117
01:06:32,532 --> 01:06:35,951
Absolutely silent, made no noise.
There was no means of propulsion.
1118
01:06:35,952 --> 01:06:39,748
Fifty feet up in the air,
sitting absolutely still.
1119
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,627
And it was amazing,
and we kind of looked at one another.
1120
01:06:45,628 --> 01:06:49,298
And we were just human beings
witnessing something extraordinary.
1121
01:06:49,299 --> 01:06:54,470
And while we're watching this thing,
it went from dead still,
1122
01:06:54,471 --> 01:06:58,265
and it shot off toward the horizon
and was gone.
1123
01:06:58,266 --> 01:07:01,644
Absolutely instant acceleration.
1124
01:07:07,942 --> 01:07:12,113
{\an8} We had 60 cameras so that
the engineers at Boeing and Douglas
1125
01:07:13,323 --> 01:07:17,118
{\an8}could see every millisecond
of the ignition.
1126
01:07:18,328 --> 01:07:21,747
The missile in question
that we photographed was an Atlas D
1127
01:07:21,748 --> 01:07:26,627
carrying, as part of an experiment,
a dummy nuclear warhead.
1128
01:07:26,628 --> 01:07:29,671
As it was flying along,
the warhead, the chaff,
1129
01:07:29,672 --> 01:07:31,757
something else entered the frame.
1130
01:07:31,758 --> 01:07:35,677
It shot a beam of light,
and it hit the warhead,
1131
01:07:35,678 --> 01:07:37,095
flew up like this,
1132
01:07:37,096 --> 01:07:39,473
shot another beam of light down
at the warhead, went like this,
1133
01:07:39,474 --> 01:07:42,559
shot under the beam of light
at the warhead, went under here,
1134
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,938
shot a beam of light at the warhead,
and then flew out the way it had come in.
1135
01:07:45,939 --> 01:07:47,481
All the while, everything in our frame
1136
01:07:47,482 --> 01:07:50,025
was moving along
at 8,000 to 9,000 miles an hour.
1137
01:07:50,026 --> 01:07:52,402
There's nothing of ours
that could've done that.
1138
01:07:52,403 --> 01:07:54,072
What could have done that?
1139
01:08:00,954 --> 01:08:05,415
{\an8}There was this red orange light
hovering above the front gate.
1140
01:08:05,416 --> 01:08:09,254
{\an8}It was about 40 feet in diameter,
sort of oval shape.
1141
01:08:12,131 --> 01:08:16,760
{\an8}And each missile was announcing
a guidance and control system failure.
1142
01:08:16,761 --> 01:08:22,516
{\an8}Our missiles were starting to go down,
so we had all ten of 'em go down.
1143
01:08:22,517 --> 01:08:29,566
Within the span of eight days,
we lost 20 nuclear missiles to UFOs.
1144
01:08:33,278 --> 01:08:36,029
{\an8}Vandenberg is home to the infrastructure
1145
01:08:36,030 --> 01:08:38,949
{\an8}that supports
our National Missile Defense project,
1146
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:40,701
{\an8}the system that defends our country
1147
01:08:40,702 --> 01:08:43,495
{\an8}from incoming ballistic missiles
and nuclear weapons.
1148
01:08:43,496 --> 01:08:46,415
So it's one of the most
important bases we have.
1149
01:08:46,416 --> 01:08:48,500
On October 14th, 2003,
1150
01:08:48,501 --> 01:08:51,003
I showed up to work
at Vandenberg Air Force Base
1151
01:08:51,004 --> 01:08:55,340
and immediately everybody just
started to tell me about this UFO incident
1152
01:08:55,341 --> 01:08:57,467
that had happened earlier that morning.
1153
01:08:57,468 --> 01:09:00,804
{\an8}I reported for work, um,
at Vandenberg Air Force Base.
1154
01:09:00,805 --> 01:09:02,973
{\an8}We were given a briefing
earlier in the day.
1155
01:09:02,974 --> 01:09:06,268
{\an8}Some Boeing contractors
had witnessed a UAP incursion.
1156
01:09:06,269 --> 01:09:10,147
Three Boeing contractors
had called in and reported
1157
01:09:10,148 --> 01:09:14,109
that a gigantic red square object
1158
01:09:14,110 --> 01:09:17,154
was floating over the launchpad
at low altitude.
1159
01:09:17,155 --> 01:09:21,199
It was making no noise,
it had no obvious signs of propulsion,
1160
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,493
and it was just hovering silently.
1161
01:09:23,494 --> 01:09:26,204
It was a very serious
security breach of the area.
1162
01:09:26,205 --> 01:09:28,624
And we were told just to be vigilant
when we were out on our shift that night.
1163
01:09:28,625 --> 01:09:33,754
And I spent the most of the day driving
around the base looking for these objects.
1164
01:09:33,755 --> 01:09:36,548
Later that night,
myself and five security forces members,
1165
01:09:36,549 --> 01:09:39,134
we observed a bright light
approaching the base.
1166
01:09:39,135 --> 01:09:41,470
As it got closer,
the light was no longer visible,
1167
01:09:41,471 --> 01:09:45,015
and it was massive,
the size of a football field,
1168
01:09:45,016 --> 01:09:47,184
almost rectangular in shape.
1169
01:09:47,185 --> 01:09:48,393
It was just floating there.
1170
01:09:48,394 --> 01:09:52,940
No propulsion system, no windows.
It was matte black.
1171
01:09:52,941 --> 01:09:55,525
We observed it for another 45 seconds.
1172
01:09:55,526 --> 01:09:58,862
And then it shot off thousands
of miles an hour up the coast.
1173
01:09:58,863 --> 01:10:02,366
I talked to all the direct witnesses,
over a dozen people,
1174
01:10:02,367 --> 01:10:04,910
and even from
their different vantage points,
1175
01:10:04,911 --> 01:10:08,664
they all told the same story.
They all saw the same thing.
1176
01:10:08,665 --> 01:10:13,335
The UAP activity surrounding
nuclear weapons is not a historic issue.
1177
01:10:13,336 --> 01:10:15,296
It's an ongoing issue.
1178
01:10:16,214 --> 01:10:20,175
Despite the longstanding denial
by the United States Air Force,
1179
01:10:20,176 --> 01:10:25,389
we now have both former and current
very senior Air Force officials
1180
01:10:25,390 --> 01:10:29,476
stating for the record
that in fact the Air Force has had
1181
01:10:29,477 --> 01:10:32,938
a longstanding involvement in UAP.
1182
01:10:32,939 --> 01:10:37,693
{\an8}I served in the Air Force
for about 32 years,
1183
01:10:37,694 --> 01:10:41,196
and my last job in the Air Force
was chief of Air Force Intelligence,
1184
01:10:41,197 --> 01:10:44,408
prior to becoming director of
the Defense Intelligence Agency.
1185
01:10:44,409 --> 01:10:47,077
When I served in the Air Force,
1186
01:10:47,078 --> 01:10:54,126
uh, there was an active program
to track anomalous activities
1187
01:10:54,127 --> 01:10:57,546
that, uh, you know,
we couldn't otherwise explain.
1188
01:10:57,547 --> 01:11:04,137
Many of them connected with ranges
out west, notably, um, Area 51.
1189
01:11:07,807 --> 01:11:10,600
As Congress learned more
about the Legacy Program,
1190
01:11:10,601 --> 01:11:15,606
they realized how powerful and influential
the defense contractors have become.
1191
01:11:18,693 --> 01:11:23,530
As we look at the actual structure
of the interaction between the government
1192
01:11:23,531 --> 01:11:26,366
and private industry in this UAP area,
1193
01:11:26,367 --> 01:11:29,202
over the years, it has morphed,
1194
01:11:29,203 --> 01:11:34,791
transitioned into it being largely
in the aegis of the contractors.
1195
01:11:34,792 --> 01:11:36,501
If you do something within the government,
1196
01:11:36,502 --> 01:11:39,963
eventually it can be accessed
by Freedom of Information Act.
1197
01:11:39,964 --> 01:11:42,591
But if you do something
through contractors,
1198
01:11:42,592 --> 01:11:46,178
they're not available through
Freedom of Information Act.
1199
01:11:46,179 --> 01:11:50,849
I had been involved myself in projects
where we made sure that the material
1200
01:11:50,850 --> 01:11:54,269
was under contractor labels
1201
01:11:54,270 --> 01:11:58,106
so they couldn't be
accessed easily by the public.
1202
01:11:58,107 --> 01:12:01,359
But what happens with government,
you need continuity.
1203
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,653
People move, people die, people retire.
1204
01:12:03,654 --> 01:12:06,948
So what winds up happening is
you have these Legacy efforts going on
1205
01:12:06,949 --> 01:12:10,160
in the government contractor side
involving UAP.
1206
01:12:10,161 --> 01:12:13,246
{\an8}And then I, the government official
in charge of this program, leave
1207
01:12:13,247 --> 01:12:16,124
{\an8}and someone else takes my place,
and that person might have
1208
01:12:16,125 --> 01:12:18,168
{\an8}a little bit of awareness
that this project existed.
1209
01:12:18,169 --> 01:12:19,920
But then they're replaced
by a third person
1210
01:12:19,921 --> 01:12:21,963
who has no idea that the project existed.
1211
01:12:21,964 --> 01:12:24,132
But the corporate entity that received
1212
01:12:24,133 --> 01:12:26,676
this technology
is still trying to develop it,
1213
01:12:26,677 --> 01:12:28,678
and so they begin to commercialize that.
1214
01:12:28,679 --> 01:12:31,515
Some of the stuff begins to seep out
in these great innovations
1215
01:12:31,516 --> 01:12:33,892
that some company's coming up with
and making money on,
1216
01:12:33,893 --> 01:12:36,728
and they claim it belongs to them
and it's proprietary.
1217
01:12:36,729 --> 01:12:40,398
Um, and the people in government
who know where it came from originally,
1218
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:44,319
they're long gone and their successors
have no idea that it was there at all.
1219
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,907
And so you can start to foresee
where you create in corporate hands
1220
01:12:48,908 --> 01:12:50,575
an extraordinary amount of power.
1221
01:12:50,576 --> 01:12:55,497
The real risk in transferring technology
that is not useful to us today
1222
01:12:55,498 --> 01:12:56,998
to a corporate entity.
1223
01:12:56,999 --> 01:12:58,750
Over decades, that corporate entity
1224
01:12:58,751 --> 01:13:01,419
comes to basically possess
and control access to it
1225
01:13:01,420 --> 01:13:04,714
for their own purposes,
not for the purposes of national security.
1226
01:13:04,715 --> 01:13:06,424
{\an8}In the councils of government,
1227
01:13:06,425 --> 01:13:10,512
{\an8}we must guard against
the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
1228
01:13:10,513 --> 01:13:16,017
whether sought or unsought
by the military industrial complex.
1229
01:13:16,018 --> 01:13:18,520
The potential for the disastrous rise
1230
01:13:18,521 --> 01:13:21,774
of misplaced power exists
and will persist.
1231
01:13:22,859 --> 01:13:25,443
We must never let
the weight of this combination
1232
01:13:25,444 --> 01:13:28,530
endanger our liberties
or democratic processes.
1233
01:13:28,531 --> 01:13:31,366
{\an8}The reason why our democracy is so strong
1234
01:13:31,367 --> 01:13:34,161
{\an8}because it's of the people
and by the people and for the people.
1235
01:13:34,162 --> 01:13:38,331
{\an8}It's not acceptable to have secret parts
of government that no one ever sees.
1236
01:13:38,332 --> 01:13:40,083
{\an8}It would be unconscionable.
1237
01:13:40,084 --> 01:13:42,961
{\an8}It's against our constitution
and it's wrong.
1238
01:13:42,962 --> 01:13:46,631
{\an8}Non-human intelligence
is not government information,
1239
01:13:46,632 --> 01:13:50,595
{\an8}and the government should not be keeping
that knowledge from the people.
1240
01:13:54,432 --> 01:13:55,724
Before he passed away,
1241
01:13:55,725 --> 01:13:58,685
I had the privilege
of seeing Senator Harry Reid
1242
01:13:58,686 --> 01:14:02,022
quite a few times
in his private residence.
1243
01:14:02,023 --> 01:14:06,610
He explained to me that he was
once provided information
1244
01:14:06,611 --> 01:14:09,279
on the Legacy Program but denied access.
1245
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,031
He was incensed by that.
1246
01:14:11,032 --> 01:14:14,910
And when the opportunity
came to sponsor AATIP,
1247
01:14:14,911 --> 01:14:16,995
he jumped at the opportunity
1248
01:14:16,996 --> 01:14:19,539
in order to ensure
that Congress and the government
1249
01:14:19,540 --> 01:14:22,083
had visibility into this topic.
1250
01:14:22,084 --> 01:14:25,253
And frankly, we wouldn't be
where we are today
1251
01:14:25,254 --> 01:14:28,715
if it wasn't for the courage
of Senator Harry Reid.
1252
01:14:28,716 --> 01:14:32,428
{\an8}Why the federal government
all these years has covered up,
1253
01:14:33,512 --> 01:14:36,973
{\an8}put brake pads on everything, stopped it?
1254
01:14:36,974 --> 01:14:40,602
{\an8}I think it's very, very bad
for our country.
1255
01:14:40,603 --> 01:14:44,272
Should we study this stuff?
The answer is yes.
1256
01:14:44,273 --> 01:14:46,442
And that's all this was about.
1257
01:14:51,113 --> 01:14:52,989
For decades, our government assumed
1258
01:14:52,990 --> 01:14:55,700
there must be different
exotic technologies responsible
1259
01:14:55,701 --> 01:14:57,619
for each of the observables,
1260
01:14:57,620 --> 01:15:01,665
but our scientists realized
one breakthrough technology
1261
01:15:01,666 --> 01:15:05,044
could actually be responsible
for everything.
1262
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,632
With enough energy,
you could create a bubble,
1263
01:15:10,633 --> 01:15:12,759
a warp bubble around a spacecraft
1264
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,220
that would have a different property
of space-time
1265
01:15:15,221 --> 01:15:17,682
inside the bubble
than on the outside of the bubble.
1266
01:15:19,767 --> 01:15:22,227
This energy field
would completely isolate
1267
01:15:22,228 --> 01:15:23,980
the craft from the environment.
1268
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:29,734
So you might ask then,
how does the craft actually move forward
1269
01:15:29,735 --> 01:15:31,278
within its bubble?
1270
01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:36,366
The craft inside the bubble has a way
of altering the bubble's properties
1271
01:15:36,367 --> 01:15:40,328
in order to change
its direction of motion.
1272
01:15:40,329 --> 01:15:44,165
Such that you have
a downward press in front
1273
01:15:44,166 --> 01:15:47,043
and an upward press behind.
1274
01:15:47,044 --> 01:15:49,629
So it'd be like riding
space-time in the same way
1275
01:15:49,630 --> 01:15:52,133
that a surfer would ride
a wave in the ocean.
1276
01:15:54,885 --> 01:15:59,306
And we observe hypersonic velocity
and instantaneous acceleration,
1277
01:15:59,307 --> 01:16:03,226
and the reason is that time is moving
differently for people inside the bubble
1278
01:16:03,227 --> 01:16:05,061
versus people outside the bubble.
1279
01:16:05,062 --> 01:16:08,523
Whoever's inside the craft would
feel like they're just cruising along.
1280
01:16:08,524 --> 01:16:12,235
They wouldn't be feeling the effects of
what looks like speeds and accelerations
1281
01:16:12,236 --> 01:16:14,572
that would turn
a human being into pudding.
1282
01:16:16,782 --> 01:16:19,909
This one breakthrough
can be the key to interstellar travel,
1283
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:22,495
{\an8}where you want to travel long distances
1284
01:16:22,496 --> 01:16:25,790
{\an8}without taking enormous amounts
of subjective time.
1285
01:16:25,791 --> 01:16:30,295
{\an8}We'd also have low observability
because the bubble acts as a barrier
1286
01:16:30,296 --> 01:16:32,505
between two space-time environments.
1287
01:16:32,506 --> 01:16:35,675
This would eliminate or conceal
most of the known signatures
1288
01:16:35,676 --> 01:16:37,218
of conventional technologies.
1289
01:16:37,219 --> 01:16:41,765
This is why radar would have difficulty
tracking a craft because the signal
1290
01:16:41,766 --> 01:16:45,727
from the radar would be distorted
by the energy field around the craft.
1291
01:16:45,728 --> 01:16:49,481
The radar signatures literally
just moved around the bubble
1292
01:16:49,482 --> 01:16:52,025
and doesn't reflect back
to the radar emitter.
1293
01:16:52,026 --> 01:16:56,780
So it's not surprising
when someone takes a photo of a UAP,
1294
01:16:56,781 --> 01:16:59,657
they find they get
a fuzzy and distorted picture
1295
01:16:59,658 --> 01:17:03,329
because they're actually taking
a photo through a space-time barrier.
1296
01:17:06,957 --> 01:17:08,500
What's been happening recently
1297
01:17:08,501 --> 01:17:12,587
is that we have upgraded our
sensor systems on our fighter aircraft.
1298
01:17:12,588 --> 01:17:16,800
And these images that are now picked up
with our advanced sensor systems,
1299
01:17:16,801 --> 01:17:21,554
we can begin to see the actual structure
of the energy field around the craft,
1300
01:17:21,555 --> 01:17:24,183
which in the past
they would not have been able to do.
1301
01:17:25,810 --> 01:17:28,061
We also observed transmedium travel
1302
01:17:28,062 --> 01:17:32,023
because the craft is moving
within its own space-time,
1303
01:17:32,024 --> 01:17:36,904
and the outside environment through
which it's moving is inconsequential.
1304
01:17:37,488 --> 01:17:40,740
{\an8}This would allow a craft
to go seamlessly from space
1305
01:17:40,741 --> 01:17:44,160
through the atmosphere into the water.
1306
01:17:44,161 --> 01:17:48,206
And they could do so because
the warp bubble that surrounds them
1307
01:17:48,207 --> 01:17:51,918
shunts air molecules
or ocean water molecules
1308
01:17:51,919 --> 01:17:55,881
around the craft so that it could
move effortlessly through any medium.
1309
01:17:58,551 --> 01:18:02,303
We also observe anti-gravity
because the Earth's gravitational field
1310
01:18:02,304 --> 01:18:06,559
is no longer having any effect
on the craft inside its space-time bubble.
1311
01:18:07,893 --> 01:18:09,727
{\an8}This is why a craft does not need say,
1312
01:18:09,728 --> 01:18:14,607
engines or wings or other aspects
that we would associate with a craft
1313
01:18:14,608 --> 01:18:16,693
that needs to fly in the atmosphere.
1314
01:18:16,694 --> 01:18:19,071
It's really disconnected
from the atmosphere.
1315
01:18:21,407 --> 01:18:24,159
{\an8}And the energy field
associated with these craft
1316
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,744
causes a highly energetic
wave of radiation,
1317
01:18:26,745 --> 01:18:31,166
which is why people getting too close
to a UAP can experience biological effects
1318
01:18:31,167 --> 01:18:32,626
that are harmful to humans.
1319
01:18:35,296 --> 01:18:40,341
{\an8}Now that we understand that these craft
exist in a space-time environment
1320
01:18:40,342 --> 01:18:44,095
that's different from the exterior
space-time environment,
1321
01:18:44,096 --> 01:18:47,640
this can begin to explain
claimed observations by say
1322
01:18:47,641 --> 01:18:51,686
military people who have approached
and gotten into a craft
1323
01:18:51,687 --> 01:18:55,190
and find that time is running
at a different rate inside the craft
1324
01:18:55,191 --> 01:18:57,901
than time running outside the craft.
1325
01:18:57,902 --> 01:19:00,737
They think they're only there
for a few minutes,
1326
01:19:00,738 --> 01:19:04,032
when they come outside the craft,
some hours have gone by,
1327
01:19:04,033 --> 01:19:06,826
so they feel like
they've got missing time.
1328
01:19:06,827 --> 01:19:11,664
Or similarly, with respect
to the size of the craft,
1329
01:19:11,665 --> 01:19:13,625
if someone is outside the craft
1330
01:19:13,626 --> 01:19:17,420
and it looks like
a small craft and they go inside,
1331
01:19:17,421 --> 01:19:20,089
it's the size of a football stadium.
1332
01:19:20,090 --> 01:19:24,135
Once you've realized
that space and time
1333
01:19:24,136 --> 01:19:27,222
are being engineered to be different
1334
01:19:27,223 --> 01:19:30,183
inside the craft
than they are outside the craft,
1335
01:19:30,184 --> 01:19:34,437
then these anomalies that people
report that sound completely absurd
1336
01:19:34,438 --> 01:19:36,815
can actually make sense.
1337
01:19:41,946 --> 01:19:45,991
The top issue is
what is their energy supply?
1338
01:19:46,367 --> 01:19:51,162
{\an8}Because the evidence for how much
energy they're using per unit time
1339
01:19:51,163 --> 01:19:55,542
{\an8}so exceeds any kind of power levels
that we can generate.
1340
01:19:55,543 --> 01:19:58,962
{\an8}UAPs have exhibited propulsive
performance characteristics
1341
01:19:58,963 --> 01:20:04,384
{\an8}that imply the generation
of 1,100 billion watts of power.
1342
01:20:04,385 --> 01:20:06,261
This is more than 100 times
1343
01:20:06,262 --> 01:20:09,931
the daily electrical utility power
generated in the US.
1344
01:20:09,932 --> 01:20:12,016
Let that sink in.
1345
01:20:12,017 --> 01:20:19,024
One hundred times the daily
power generation of the entire nation.
1346
01:20:21,235 --> 01:20:26,281
There are two prevailing hypotheses
for how UAPs create the energy
1347
01:20:26,282 --> 01:20:28,700
that warps space-time around them,
1348
01:20:28,701 --> 01:20:34,122
and one is that the spacecraft
can produce, uh, its own bubble
1349
01:20:34,123 --> 01:20:39,043
of vacuum energy around the craft,
which is also known as zero-point energy.
1350
01:20:39,044 --> 01:20:43,673
And the other one is that the craft
could be using quantum entanglement
1351
01:20:43,674 --> 01:20:47,303
to draw on a remote
distant source of energy.
1352
01:20:50,055 --> 01:20:53,100
{\an8} If we can understand
the technology that we're observing,
1353
01:20:54,059 --> 01:20:59,272
{\an8}it has so many
potentially beneficial impacts,
1354
01:20:59,273 --> 01:21:02,400
{\an8}including clean energy.
1355
01:21:02,401 --> 01:21:05,987
{\an8}We're seeing these craft
doing unbelievable things,
1356
01:21:05,988 --> 01:21:08,741
{\an8}and it's not combustion engineering.
1357
01:21:10,034 --> 01:21:16,080
This is technology that
could replace oil, gas and coal
1358
01:21:16,081 --> 01:21:18,917
and protect our planet
for future generations.
1359
01:21:20,419 --> 01:21:21,544
How can we use these technologies
1360
01:21:21,545 --> 01:21:23,713
and all the capabilities
that come from it,
1361
01:21:23,714 --> 01:21:27,342
not to fight a war,
but to increase our standard of living,
1362
01:21:27,343 --> 01:21:30,803
you know, to increase our ability
to get from place to place.
1363
01:21:30,804 --> 01:21:33,097
{\an8}We can talk more about teleportation,
1364
01:21:33,098 --> 01:21:36,684
{\an8}we could talk more about,
uh, hypersonic travel.
1365
01:21:36,685 --> 01:21:39,979
{\an8}Being able to take human beings
to the next evolutionary step,
1366
01:21:39,980 --> 01:21:41,065
which is the stars,
1367
01:21:41,231 --> 01:21:44,151
being able to explore
new star systems and planets.
1368
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,570
On the other hand,
1369
01:21:47,571 --> 01:21:52,325
you'd have to weigh the consequences
of sharing, uh, with the world,
1370
01:21:52,326 --> 01:21:54,535
knowing that there are
bad actors out there.
1371
01:21:54,536 --> 01:21:57,372
If our adversaries would have
access to that same technologies,
1372
01:21:57,373 --> 01:22:02,085
they could flip that into some very,
very powerful weapons of mass destruction.
1373
01:22:02,086 --> 01:22:06,172
{\an8}You could put a nuclear bomb
inside one of these things and let it fly
1374
01:22:06,173 --> 01:22:09,717
{\an8}right through a building,
through concrete, through steel,
1375
01:22:09,718 --> 01:22:11,636
{\an8}wherever you want it,
anywhere in the world.
1376
01:22:11,637 --> 01:22:15,139
We want to talk about it publicly
and encourage folks to talk about it,
1377
01:22:15,140 --> 01:22:17,975
but while we're talking about it publicly,
1378
01:22:17,976 --> 01:22:22,021
our adversaries are paying attention to
context clues to piece things together
1379
01:22:22,022 --> 01:22:24,524
about possible technologies
that we may have
1380
01:22:24,525 --> 01:22:26,359
that they don't have access to.
1381
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,152
So it's a fine line.
1382
01:22:28,153 --> 01:22:32,115
I would opt for making
any new energy source
1383
01:22:32,116 --> 01:22:36,160
a humanitarian, uh, issue.
1384
01:22:36,161 --> 01:22:38,287
That it should be open.
1385
01:22:38,288 --> 01:22:41,582
And we know how to do that.
We've done that with nuclear power.
1386
01:22:41,583 --> 01:22:46,713
{\an8}If the capabilities
that exist come to the forefront
1387
01:22:46,714 --> 01:22:49,757
{\an8}and they become known to the world,
1388
01:22:49,758 --> 01:22:53,929
{\an8}it might very well be that
it is to the benefit of mankind.
1389
01:23:00,728 --> 01:23:04,063
While Congress had learned
a great deal about the Legacy Program,
1390
01:23:04,064 --> 01:23:08,401
whistleblowers were still afraid
to reveal the most secretive details
1391
01:23:08,402 --> 01:23:10,403
about the UAP technology
1392
01:23:10,404 --> 01:23:13,240
and non-human bodies
in the program's possession.
1393
01:23:15,242 --> 01:23:19,620
We'd been interviewing folks
that would have had evidence of
1394
01:23:19,621 --> 01:23:24,376
or first-hand direct contact
with either materials
1395
01:23:24,501 --> 01:23:25,960
or a program itself.
1396
01:23:25,961 --> 01:23:28,922
{\an8}They have worked on craft
1397
01:23:29,506 --> 01:23:33,469
{\an8}of out of this world origin, but until...
1398
01:23:34,678 --> 01:23:39,474
they leak a video before they commit
suicide by shooting themselves
1399
01:23:39,475 --> 01:23:41,058
in the back of the head four times,
1400
01:23:41,059 --> 01:23:44,645
um, I just don't know
that that's going to get out.
1401
01:23:44,646 --> 01:23:49,442
Those people whose job it is
to make sure information doesn't get out
1402
01:23:49,443 --> 01:23:53,821
will use whatever tool they can find
to try to convince people
1403
01:23:53,822 --> 01:23:55,281
they shouldn't come forward.
1404
01:23:55,282 --> 01:23:58,868
{\an8}We have people that have very high
clearances both today and in the past,
1405
01:23:58,869 --> 01:24:00,661
{\an8}who did really important work
for our government
1406
01:24:00,662 --> 01:24:02,663
{\an8}or continue to do
important work for the government,
1407
01:24:02,664 --> 01:24:04,332
{\an8}who have come forward with some claims
1408
01:24:04,333 --> 01:24:08,002
{\an8}about the US having in the past
recovered exotic materials,
1409
01:24:08,003 --> 01:24:09,837
{\an8}and then we reverse
engineered those materials
1410
01:24:09,838 --> 01:24:13,299
{\an8}to make advances in our own
defenses and technologies.
1411
01:24:13,300 --> 01:24:17,220
{\an8}And that they signed agreements
that they would face jail time
1412
01:24:17,221 --> 01:24:19,597
{\an8}or in some cases some people claim
it would cost them their lives
1413
01:24:19,598 --> 01:24:21,474
{\an8}if they spoke out about these things.
1414
01:24:21,475 --> 01:24:23,309
{\an8}When I have
a whistleblower coming forward,
1415
01:24:23,310 --> 01:24:25,144
{\an8}telling me
that they're in fear of their life
1416
01:24:25,145 --> 01:24:29,065
{\an8}and that people have been hurt
protecting and hiding this information,
1417
01:24:29,066 --> 01:24:31,276
that gives me reason for concern.
1418
01:24:32,694 --> 01:24:34,237
Determined to get to the truth,
1419
01:24:34,238 --> 01:24:39,368
it was Chris Mellon who led the charge
to help Congress draft unprecedented
1420
01:24:39,493 --> 01:24:40,953
UAP whistleblower protections.
1421
01:24:43,038 --> 01:24:45,039
And in December of 2022,
1422
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,835
President Biden signed
the legislation into law.
1423
01:24:48,919 --> 01:24:51,212
{\an8}So even for those who signed NDAs,
1424
01:24:51,213 --> 01:24:54,299
{\an8}they still have a right and an opportunity
to talk about this
1425
01:24:54,424 --> 01:24:58,595
{\an8}in a very healthy and productive way
that informs the American public.
1426
01:25:02,015 --> 01:25:05,184
{\an8}Bombshell claims
from a military whistleblower,
1427
01:25:05,185 --> 01:25:09,438
{\an8}UFO wreckage recovered
by the US kept classified
1428
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,525
{\an8}by a secret
government program for decades.
1429
01:25:12,526 --> 01:25:18,322
{\an8}The UAP task force was refused access
to, um, a broad crash retrieval program,
1430
01:25:18,323 --> 01:25:22,410
{\an8}retrieving non-human
origin technical vehicles,
1431
01:25:22,411 --> 01:25:24,495
{\an8}call it spacecraft if you will.
1432
01:25:24,496 --> 01:25:29,333
{\an8}Non-human exotic origin vehicles
that have either landed or crashed.
1433
01:25:29,334 --> 01:25:32,753
I handpicked Dave Grusch
to be part of my UAP task force.
1434
01:25:32,754 --> 01:25:36,841
Everything that Dave uncovered is true,
but it barely scratches the surface.
1435
01:25:36,842 --> 01:25:41,596
{\an8}There's a sophisticated disinformation
campaign targeting the US populace,
1436
01:25:41,597 --> 01:25:44,223
{\an8}which is extremely unethical and immoral.
1437
01:25:44,224 --> 01:25:47,602
{\an8}Have people been killed
to protect the secret?
1438
01:25:47,603 --> 01:25:50,898
{\an8}That was an ongoing concern.
1439
01:25:59,364 --> 01:26:04,452
Dave has been working
tirelessly behind the scenes
1440
01:26:04,453 --> 01:26:07,413
with Congress as well,
and we were really poking the bear.
1441
01:26:07,414 --> 01:26:08,789
We were making a lot of progress.
1442
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:11,292
We were getting
a lot of information to Congress,
1443
01:26:11,293 --> 01:26:17,173
um, and it wasn't necessarily symbiotic
1444
01:26:17,174 --> 01:26:19,300
with the Legacy Program in their desires.
1445
01:26:19,301 --> 01:26:25,223
I remember one evening, uh, I was
sitting with my wife on the front porch,
1446
01:26:26,850 --> 01:26:28,100
and I received a call.
1447
01:26:28,101 --> 01:26:31,103
I recognized the voice
of one of a friend of mine,
1448
01:26:31,104 --> 01:26:34,982
and he happened to be
one of staffers on the Hill,
1449
01:26:34,983 --> 01:26:36,442
and he was very shooken up and said,
1450
01:26:36,443 --> 01:26:39,612
"Listen, we had
a very interesting meeting on the Hill."
1451
01:26:39,613 --> 01:26:44,116
And an extremely, extremely
senior person in the US government
1452
01:26:44,117 --> 01:26:48,245
in the intelligence community
told Congress, for the record,
1453
01:26:48,246 --> 01:26:50,957
that there was a committee
of 27 individuals,
1454
01:26:50,958 --> 01:26:53,542
and I'm not going to go
into code names here,
1455
01:26:53,543 --> 01:26:58,255
that were mulling over the idea
of using extreme measures
1456
01:26:58,256 --> 01:27:01,092
to silence David and myself.
1457
01:27:01,093 --> 01:27:03,094
Kill us.
1458
01:27:03,095 --> 01:27:05,680
Now, people say,
"Oh, come on, that's conspiracy."
1459
01:27:05,681 --> 01:27:07,265
No, it's not.
1460
01:27:09,476 --> 01:27:11,102
We have done it before.
1461
01:27:11,103 --> 01:27:15,398
Under certain circumstances, we have
killed Americans without due process.
1462
01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:19,610
If they are a clear and present
national security threat,
1463
01:27:19,611 --> 01:27:21,654
we can kill Americans.
1464
01:27:21,655 --> 01:27:24,448
Now, it's not done very often, but we can.
1465
01:27:24,449 --> 01:27:27,911
Without a fair trial,
they just poof, disappear, right?
1466
01:27:28,662 --> 01:27:29,788
So here I am.
1467
01:27:31,289 --> 01:27:34,625
If I wind up in a month from now
floating in the Potomac somewhere,
1468
01:27:34,626 --> 01:27:38,880
you know what happened.
You know what happened. This is the truth.
1469
01:27:41,091 --> 01:27:43,802
What else you want to know?
1470
01:27:51,601 --> 01:27:55,104
Last year, House Intelligence
Committee held a hearing on UAPs.
1471
01:27:55,105 --> 01:27:58,482
They brought in some Pentagon bureaucrats
who only had two answers
1472
01:27:58,483 --> 01:28:02,319
to the questions they were asked.
"I don't know," or "That's classified."
1473
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,405
This hearing is going to be different.
1474
01:28:04,406 --> 01:28:07,199
This time, we had credible witnesses
1475
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,953
testifying before Congress
and American people under oath.
1476
01:28:10,954 --> 01:28:14,999
This was a tremendously proud moment
for my colleagues and myself
1477
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,961
to watch the fire that we started
continue to grow.
1478
01:28:18,962 --> 01:28:22,923
{\an8} The subcommittee hearing
on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena,
1479
01:28:22,924 --> 01:28:24,675
or UAPs, will come to order.
1480
01:28:24,676 --> 01:28:28,012
The reality is the American public
deserves to know.
1481
01:28:28,013 --> 01:28:30,639
And you better be careful
about a government
1482
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,224
that doesn't trust its people
1483
01:28:32,225 --> 01:28:34,602
because there's no telling
what they'll pull on you.
1484
01:28:34,603 --> 01:28:36,729
{\an8}It's really important
that we're here in a bipartisan way
1485
01:28:36,730 --> 01:28:40,484
{\an8}to have this conversation,
which is about national security.
1486
01:28:41,026 --> 01:28:46,322
{\an8}The American public has a right to learn
about technologies of unknown origins,
1487
01:28:46,323 --> 01:28:49,951
{\an8}non-human intelligence
and unexplainable phenomenon.
1488
01:28:50,619 --> 01:28:54,121
{\an8}You solemnly swear or affirm that
the testimony you're about to give
1489
01:28:54,122 --> 01:28:57,666
{\an8}is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
1490
01:28:57,667 --> 01:28:59,585
{\an8}- Yes.
- Yep.
1491
01:28:59,586 --> 01:29:03,005
{\an8}I was informed in the course
of my official duties
1492
01:29:03,006 --> 01:29:08,344
{\an8}of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval
and reverse engineering program.
1493
01:29:08,345 --> 01:29:13,390
{\an8}I am hopeful that my actions will
ultimately lead to a positive outcome
1494
01:29:13,391 --> 01:29:15,059
{\an8}of increased transparency.
1495
01:29:15,060 --> 01:29:18,729
{\an8}We were primarily seeing dark gray
or black cubes inside of a clear sphere,
1496
01:29:18,730 --> 01:29:22,691
{\an8}where the apex or tips of the cube
were touching the inside of that sphere.
1497
01:29:22,692 --> 01:29:24,693
{\an8}Since the events initially occurred,
1498
01:29:24,694 --> 01:29:26,904
{\an8}I've learned the objects
have been detected
1499
01:29:26,905 --> 01:29:29,365
{\an8}essentially where all operations,
1500
01:29:29,366 --> 01:29:31,826
{\an8}Navy operations are being
conducted across the world.
1501
01:29:31,827 --> 01:29:33,619
{\an8}These objects have been observed
1502
01:29:33,620 --> 01:29:36,205
{\an8}for over two weeks coming down
from over 80,000 feet,
1503
01:29:36,206 --> 01:29:38,040
{\an8}rapidly descending to 20,000 feet,
1504
01:29:38,041 --> 01:29:40,960
{\an8}hanging out for hours
and then going straight back up.
1505
01:29:40,961 --> 01:29:44,964
{\an8}It wasn't until 2009, until Jay Stratton
had contacted me to investigate.
1506
01:29:44,965 --> 01:29:48,425
{\an8}Unbeknownst to all, he was part
of the AATIP program in the Pentagon.
1507
01:29:48,426 --> 01:29:50,553
{\an8}Are you aware of any individuals
that are participating
1508
01:29:50,554 --> 01:29:53,472
{\an8}in reverse engineering programs
for non-terrestrial craft?
1509
01:29:53,473 --> 01:29:54,807
{\an8}Personally, yes. Mm-hm.
1510
01:29:54,808 --> 01:29:57,184
{\an8}Do you believe that our government
is in possession of UAPs?
1511
01:29:57,185 --> 01:29:58,769
{\an8}I know the exact locations.
1512
01:29:58,770 --> 01:30:01,897
{\an8}I actually had the people
with the first-hand knowledge,
1513
01:30:01,898 --> 01:30:04,900
{\an8}um, provide a protected disclosure
to the inspector general.
1514
01:30:04,901 --> 01:30:08,279
{\an8}Do we have the bodies
of the pilots who piloted this craft?
1515
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,365
{\an8}Biologics came with some
of these recoveries. Yeah.
1516
01:30:11,366 --> 01:30:14,243
{\an8}- Non-human biologics?
- Non-human.
1517
01:30:14,244 --> 01:30:18,497
{\an8}I was wondering if you could speak
a little bit about the interaction
1518
01:30:18,498 --> 01:30:20,332
{\an8}between defense contractor companies
1519
01:30:20,333 --> 01:30:23,085
{\an8}and any UAP-related
programs or activities.
1520
01:30:23,086 --> 01:30:25,629
{\an8}The contractors,
"the metal benders," so to speak,
1521
01:30:25,630 --> 01:30:30,134
{\an8}they're the ones actually doing specific
performance on government contracts.
1522
01:30:30,135 --> 01:30:32,261
{\an8}How does a program like that get funded?
1523
01:30:32,262 --> 01:30:33,637
{\an8}Misappropriation of funds.
1524
01:30:33,638 --> 01:30:35,306
{\an8}Does that mean that there is money
1525
01:30:35,307 --> 01:30:37,308
{\an8}in the budget
that is set to go to a program
1526
01:30:37,309 --> 01:30:38,976
{\an8}but it doesn't,
and it goes to something else?
1527
01:30:38,977 --> 01:30:40,561
{\an8}Yes, I have specific knowledge of that.
1528
01:30:40,562 --> 01:30:42,521
{\an8} Mr. Graves and Fravor,
1529
01:30:42,522 --> 01:30:45,816
{\an8}in the event that your encounters
had become hostile,
1530
01:30:45,817 --> 01:30:48,777
{\an8}would you have had
the capability to defend yourself?
1531
01:30:48,778 --> 01:30:52,364
{\an8}- Absolutely not, sir.
- No.
1532
01:30:52,365 --> 01:30:56,160
{\an8}What we experienced was well beyond
the material science and the capabilities
1533
01:30:56,161 --> 01:30:58,537
that we had at the time,
that we have currently
1534
01:30:58,538 --> 01:31:00,831
or we're going to have
in the next 20 years.
1535
01:31:00,832 --> 01:31:03,834
We have nothing that can stop in midair
and go the other direction,
1536
01:31:03,835 --> 01:31:05,294
nor do we have anything that can,
1537
01:31:05,295 --> 01:31:07,296
like in our situation,
come down from space,
1538
01:31:07,297 --> 01:31:08,756
hangout for three hours and go back up.
1539
01:31:08,757 --> 01:31:13,302
{\an8}Is it possible that these UAPs would be
probing our capabilities, yes or no?
1540
01:31:13,303 --> 01:31:14,887
{\an8}- Mr. Graves?
- Yes.
1541
01:31:14,888 --> 01:31:16,764
{\an8}- Grusch?
- Yes, definitely.
1542
01:31:16,765 --> 01:31:19,600
{\an8}Do you have any personal knowledge of
people who have been harmed or injured
1543
01:31:19,601 --> 01:31:23,646
{\an8}in efforts to cover up or conceal
these extraterrestrial technology?
1544
01:31:23,647 --> 01:31:24,898
{\an8}Yes.
1545
01:31:26,775 --> 01:31:27,776
{\an8}Personally.
1546
01:31:29,027 --> 01:31:32,154
{\an8}Anyone been murdered that you know of?
1547
01:31:32,155 --> 01:31:33,489
{\an8}I have to be careful.
1548
01:31:33,490 --> 01:31:36,659
{\an8}I directed people with that knowledge
to the appropriate authorities.
1549
01:31:36,660 --> 01:31:39,995
{\an8}There clearly is a threat
to the national security
1550
01:31:39,996 --> 01:31:42,081
{\an8}of the United States of America.
1551
01:31:42,082 --> 01:31:43,749
{\an8} Brave witnesses here.
1552
01:31:43,750 --> 01:31:46,335
{\an8}They took an oath to uphold
the constitution of the United States
1553
01:31:46,336 --> 01:31:49,464
{\an8}and dadgummit, they're doing it,
and we owe them a debt of gratitude.
1554
01:31:55,095 --> 01:32:00,599
{\an8}On Capitol Hill today, a bipartisan call
for more government transparency on UFOs.
1555
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:05,771
{\an8}One was asked about alien bodies,
two others talked about seeing UAPs.
1556
01:32:05,772 --> 01:32:09,858
{\an8}The US government operates
a UFO crash retrieval program
1557
01:32:09,859 --> 01:32:15,239
{\an8}and has a UFO and the remains
of "a non-human or non-human pilots
1558
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:16,865
{\an8}in its possession."
1559
01:32:16,866 --> 01:32:21,078
And when Dave Grusch
said the words non-human biologics,
1560
01:32:21,079 --> 01:32:22,579
there was an audible gasp.
1561
01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:27,418
I worked with David Grusch when we
both contributed to the UAP task force,
1562
01:32:27,419 --> 01:32:31,422
and everything he said under oath
to the Congress and what he put down
1563
01:32:31,423 --> 01:32:34,800
in his whistleblower complaint
is 100% true.
1564
01:32:34,801 --> 01:32:38,762
{\an8}A Pentagon report is detailing
a dramatic increase in UFO sightings.
1565
01:32:38,763 --> 01:32:41,932
The Pentagon released its report
on UFO sightings today,
1566
01:32:41,933 --> 01:32:47,063
{\an8}saying an additional 366 sightings
have been investigated since 2021.
1567
01:32:47,605 --> 01:32:51,025
{\an8}Now the Defense Department is admitting
not just a couple of incidents,
1568
01:32:51,026 --> 01:32:52,568
hundreds of incidents,
1569
01:32:52,569 --> 01:32:55,404
scores of incidents
with multiple sensor systems,
1570
01:32:55,405 --> 01:32:56,905
multiple witnesses.
1571
01:32:56,906 --> 01:33:01,702
A NASA task force is holding
its first meeting on UFOs.
1572
01:33:01,703 --> 01:33:06,290
{\an8}NASA commissioned an independent
study team to examine
1573
01:33:06,291 --> 01:33:09,460
{\an8}unidentified anomalous phenomena,
1574
01:33:09,461 --> 01:33:14,173
{\an8}and this is the first time
that NASA has taken concrete action
1575
01:33:14,174 --> 01:33:16,884
{\an8}to seriously look into UAP.
1576
01:33:16,885 --> 01:33:20,220
{\an8}Are we alone?
Personally, I don't think we are.
1577
01:33:20,221 --> 01:33:23,724
{\an8}I wasn't prepared for the number
of incursions that I see.
1578
01:33:23,725 --> 01:33:28,812
{\an8}This merging capability
outstrips the operational framework
1579
01:33:28,813 --> 01:33:31,191
that we have to address it.
1580
01:33:38,907 --> 01:33:42,701
{\an8} Since mankind first started
developing atomic energy,
1581
01:33:42,702 --> 01:33:45,579
there has been consistent UAP activity
1582
01:33:45,580 --> 01:33:49,876
at sites involved with
the atomic and nuclear process.
1583
01:33:52,379 --> 01:33:56,715
We have evolved more technically
in the last 80 years
1584
01:33:56,716 --> 01:34:00,220
than we have
in the previous 200,000 years.
1585
01:34:02,180 --> 01:34:06,058
And the uptick in UAP activity
has increased in line
1586
01:34:06,059 --> 01:34:08,853
with our advancement
of harnessing energy.
1587
01:34:10,897 --> 01:34:16,026
We realized we are on the path
to exploiting the energy levels needed
1588
01:34:16,027 --> 01:34:20,072
to warp space-time,
and UAP have been observing
1589
01:34:20,073 --> 01:34:23,492
and clearly been interested
in our rapid progress.
1590
01:34:23,493 --> 01:34:29,039
Despite developing
massively new technologies,
1591
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,668
we don't see
an equivalent moral increase
1592
01:34:32,669 --> 01:34:35,879
in how we deal with each other.
1593
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,799
{\an8} We are still invading
sovereign nations.
1594
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:43,178
{\an8}We're still threatening nuclear war
eighty years after dropping atomic bombs
1595
01:34:43,179 --> 01:34:46,975
that vaporized hundreds
of thousands of human beings.
1596
01:34:47,642 --> 01:34:50,520
Let's face it, we are a violent species.
1597
01:34:52,147 --> 01:34:55,858
So if I were a species
from somewhere else,
1598
01:34:55,859 --> 01:34:58,152
even if I were
a hidden species on the planet
1599
01:34:58,153 --> 01:35:01,155
who saw how we were coming up this curve
1600
01:35:01,156 --> 01:35:05,033
of, you know,
atomic energy and nuclear energy,
1601
01:35:05,034 --> 01:35:07,202
and then beginning to realize
1602
01:35:07,203 --> 01:35:09,788
what it takes to do
their kind of technologies
1603
01:35:09,789 --> 01:35:14,209
with warping time
and warping space and so on,
1604
01:35:14,210 --> 01:35:18,714
I can imagine that could be seen
as a threat to another species
1605
01:35:18,715 --> 01:35:21,758
because they would recognize
that once it's only a matter of time
1606
01:35:21,759 --> 01:35:23,260
and they're going to be doing
what we're doing
1607
01:35:23,261 --> 01:35:24,636
and then we're gonna have
to deal with them.
1608
01:35:24,637 --> 01:35:28,265
So it doesn't surprise me
that their highest priority would be
1609
01:35:28,266 --> 01:35:32,311
to identify what threats they might face
1610
01:35:32,312 --> 01:35:34,271
to learn everything about them.
1611
01:35:34,272 --> 01:35:37,566
This pattern of activity
seems to me utterly logical.
1612
01:35:37,567 --> 01:35:42,738
It seems to me to be
an extension of the evolutionary process
1613
01:35:42,739 --> 01:35:45,616
that governs life
writ large as we know it,
1614
01:35:45,617 --> 01:35:47,911
which is self-preservation is number one.
1615
01:35:49,913 --> 01:35:55,042
{\an8}When I hear stories of either
nuclear weapons sites being shut down
1616
01:35:55,043 --> 01:35:58,170
{\an8}or turned on, what that tells me
is something quite interesting.
1617
01:35:58,171 --> 01:36:01,798
First off is that something
has a technology capable of reaching
1618
01:36:01,799 --> 01:36:04,801
into our nuclear weapons systems
1619
01:36:04,802 --> 01:36:07,513
at a distance in ways
that we don't understand.
1620
01:36:07,514 --> 01:36:11,934
Okay, that's just capability.
But you ask the question about intent,
1621
01:36:11,935 --> 01:36:13,977
at the very least, what it tells me
1622
01:36:13,978 --> 01:36:18,357
is that they're showing us
what they can do to us at will
1623
01:36:18,358 --> 01:36:20,442
or with us or they can stop us.
1624
01:36:20,443 --> 01:36:25,113
Now, they didn't stop us from
blowing something up in Japan.
1625
01:36:25,114 --> 01:36:27,157
They didn't stop the first of the bombs.
1626
01:36:27,158 --> 01:36:32,955
At some level, they're willing to let us
see the consequences of our actions.
1627
01:36:32,956 --> 01:36:36,124
But at another level,
they're willing to also show us that
1628
01:36:36,125 --> 01:36:41,046
"You might think that you could
hurt us one day, but you can't."
1629
01:36:41,047 --> 01:36:46,843
"We really can just reach in and stop you
or cause you to blow each other up."
1630
01:36:46,844 --> 01:36:49,012
"Because at the end of the day,
you're getting in our way,
1631
01:36:49,013 --> 01:36:51,431
and you're really starting to annoy us."
1632
01:36:51,432 --> 01:36:55,352
So even though it has been reported
that some of our fighter pilots
1633
01:36:55,353 --> 01:36:59,982
have chased these objects
and even fired missiles at them,
1634
01:36:59,983 --> 01:37:03,277
there has not been
some kind of strong negative retaliation.
1635
01:37:03,278 --> 01:37:06,780
So it'd be pretty easy to come
to the conclusion they're friendly,
1636
01:37:06,781 --> 01:37:09,950
and that's fine,
and there's no real threat there.
1637
01:37:09,951 --> 01:37:14,413
But the truth of the matter is, uh,
you have to take into account, well,
1638
01:37:14,414 --> 01:37:16,999
under what condition,
you know, that might change.
1639
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,376
For example, if you have ants
1640
01:37:19,377 --> 01:37:22,504
at the back of your yard,
uh, they're not a threat to you,
1641
01:37:22,505 --> 01:37:26,466
so that's fine,
but if they come and invade your house,
1642
01:37:26,467 --> 01:37:28,135
suddenly they're a threat.
1643
01:37:28,136 --> 01:37:31,221
And so it could be
the same in this situation.
1644
01:37:31,222 --> 01:37:35,268
So at least within the defense
and intelligence industry,
1645
01:37:36,269 --> 01:37:41,106
we automatically assume the worst
because we want to be prepared
1646
01:37:41,107 --> 01:37:43,567
against the worst if it should happen.
1647
01:37:43,568 --> 01:37:47,738
There's a concern within the defense
and intelligence communities
1648
01:37:47,739 --> 01:37:51,742
that UAPs have been undertaking
long-term surveillance
1649
01:37:51,743 --> 01:37:57,623
of human technological advancement
for the possibility that they may need
1650
01:37:57,624 --> 01:38:02,836
to intervene to prevent
a conflict between us and them.
1651
01:38:02,837 --> 01:38:07,466
{\an8}One of the reasons that I am
so ardent about this issue is
1652
01:38:07,467 --> 01:38:11,386
{\an8}because I think it has the potential
to change the perspective
1653
01:38:11,387 --> 01:38:16,558
and the outlook of world leaders
and the populations of those countries
1654
01:38:16,559 --> 01:38:22,939
to see more of what we have in common
and the challenges that we face together.
1655
01:38:22,940 --> 01:38:25,776
If we're gonna survive as a species,
1656
01:38:25,777 --> 01:38:31,156
we need unprecedented levels
of international collaboration.
1657
01:38:31,157 --> 01:38:36,828
{\an8}I occasionally think how quickly
our differences worldwide
1658
01:38:36,829 --> 01:38:41,959
{\an8}would vanish if we were facing
an alien threat from outside this world.
1659
01:38:59,852 --> 01:39:02,229
Thomas Jefferson once said,
1660
01:39:02,230 --> 01:39:06,024
{\an8}"I'm not an advocate for frequent
changes in laws and constitutions."
1661
01:39:06,025 --> 01:39:09,361
{\an8}"But laws and institutions
must go hand in hand
1662
01:39:09,362 --> 01:39:11,738
with the progress of the human mind."
1663
01:39:11,739 --> 01:39:14,449
"As that becomes more developed,
more enlightened,
1664
01:39:14,450 --> 01:39:16,243
as new discoveries are made,
1665
01:39:16,244 --> 01:39:20,205
new truths discovered and manners
and opinions change."
1666
01:39:20,206 --> 01:39:22,290
"With the change of circumstances,
1667
01:39:22,291 --> 01:39:27,505
institutions must advance
also to keep pace with the times."
1668
01:39:29,006 --> 01:39:33,093
Our current Senate leadership feels
the same as our founding fathers.
1669
01:39:33,094 --> 01:39:35,804
And throughout the fall of 2023,
1670
01:39:35,805 --> 01:39:38,265
my colleagues and I
met with Senate leadership
1671
01:39:38,266 --> 01:39:40,559
to help give them clarity on the facts
1672
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:45,356
as they fought for the most historic
UAP legislation we've ever had.
1673
01:39:46,149 --> 01:39:50,444
Never in the history of our nation
have we ever seen any type
1674
01:39:50,445 --> 01:39:55,323
of legislation regarding UAP
that is as detailed and specific
1675
01:39:55,324 --> 01:39:57,451
and as directive as this one.
1676
01:39:57,452 --> 01:40:01,621
{\an8}United States government has gathered
a great deal of information about UAPs
1677
01:40:01,622 --> 01:40:06,042
{\an8}over many decades, but has refused
to share it with the American people.
1678
01:40:06,043 --> 01:40:10,005
{\an8}That is wrong, and additionally
it breeds mistrust.
1679
01:40:10,006 --> 01:40:14,217
{\an8}There is, we believe, information
and data that has been collected
1680
01:40:14,218 --> 01:40:16,511
{\an8}by more than just
the Department of Defense,
1681
01:40:16,512 --> 01:40:20,015
{\an8}but by other agencies of the
federal government as well.
1682
01:40:20,016 --> 01:40:23,477
Information on UAPs has also
been withheld from Congress,
1683
01:40:23,478 --> 01:40:25,771
which was a violation
of the laws requiring
1684
01:40:25,772 --> 01:40:27,939
full notification
to the legislative branch.
1685
01:40:27,940 --> 01:40:33,779
The bill I worked on with Senator Rounds
offered a common sense solution,
1686
01:40:33,780 --> 01:40:37,574
the Unidentified Anomalous
Phenomena Disclosure Act.
1687
01:40:37,575 --> 01:40:41,995
{\an8}This would be the most aggressive
measure that we've frankly ever seen
1688
01:40:41,996 --> 01:40:45,457
{\an8}in history when it comes to disclosure
about what the government knows
1689
01:40:45,458 --> 01:40:48,418
{\an8}and has, as it relates to UAPs.
1690
01:40:48,419 --> 01:40:51,755
The measure would also give
the federal government control
1691
01:40:51,756 --> 01:40:55,258
over all recovered technologies
of unknown origin
1692
01:40:55,259 --> 01:40:59,346
and biological evidence
of non-human intelligence.
1693
01:40:59,347 --> 01:41:03,683
Eminent domain allows the US government
to take control of anything
1694
01:41:03,684 --> 01:41:05,477
for national security reasons
1695
01:41:05,478 --> 01:41:07,771
or for the betterment
of the American people.
1696
01:41:07,772 --> 01:41:11,942
{\an8}A requirement as a transparency measure
for the government to obtain
1697
01:41:11,943 --> 01:41:17,280
{\an8}any recovered UAP material
or biological remains
1698
01:41:17,281 --> 01:41:21,201
{\an8}that may have been provided
to private entities in the past
1699
01:41:21,202 --> 01:41:25,914
and thereby hidden from Congress
and the American people.
1700
01:41:25,915 --> 01:41:31,002
The eminent domain section
was not crafted accidentally.
1701
01:41:31,003 --> 01:41:35,423
It was designed to be put in there
clearly to lay out our expectations.
1702
01:41:35,424 --> 01:41:38,802
Contractors may have information
that they have held,
1703
01:41:38,803 --> 01:41:43,056
or materials that they have held
over an extended period of time,
1704
01:41:43,057 --> 01:41:47,018
and this is our way of addressing it
and making it clear
1705
01:41:47,019 --> 01:41:50,313
that it should be delivered
in an appropriate fashion,
1706
01:41:50,314 --> 01:41:52,941
and that they need
to be negotiating with us now.
1707
01:41:52,942 --> 01:41:55,485
{\an8}Their bipartisan plan
for more transparency
1708
01:41:55,486 --> 01:41:58,154
{\an8}is getting some major pushback though.
1709
01:41:58,155 --> 01:42:02,576
{\an8}The, um, defense contractors
give money legally
1710
01:42:02,577 --> 01:42:07,706
{\an8}to a lot of my colleagues that provide
a great deal of the pushback on this.
1711
01:42:07,707 --> 01:42:11,376
There's a lot of money coming from
the defense industry to support
1712
01:42:11,377 --> 01:42:13,086
elected officials with their campaigns.
1713
01:42:13,087 --> 01:42:15,922
And then when the time comes for these
elected officials to try to get
1714
01:42:15,923 --> 01:42:18,300
to the bottom of things,
they're compromised.
1715
01:42:18,301 --> 01:42:21,136
Something with the capabilities
of traveling light years,
1716
01:42:21,137 --> 01:42:26,182
not showing a heat signature
and the energy capabilities of that,
1717
01:42:26,183 --> 01:42:28,602
that would put the Pentagon
out of business.
1718
01:42:28,603 --> 01:42:33,231
We wouldn't be fighting these
worthless wars overseas over oil
1719
01:42:33,232 --> 01:42:35,275
and American boys and girls
wouldn't be dying.
1720
01:42:35,276 --> 01:42:37,278
It would put war pigs out of business.
1721
01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:41,031
Unfortunately,
there was too much resistance
1722
01:42:41,032 --> 01:42:46,329
and the most historic elements of the
proposed legislation did not become law.
1723
01:42:47,622 --> 01:42:48,830
We've got a big mess on our hands.
1724
01:42:48,831 --> 01:42:51,333
We've got 80 years of lies and deception
1725
01:42:51,334 --> 01:42:53,793
that quite frankly ruined
a lot of people's lives,
1726
01:42:53,794 --> 01:42:57,005
and nobody wants
to take responsibility for that.
1727
01:42:57,006 --> 01:43:00,926
This is not an endeavor here
to go out and punish anyone.
1728
01:43:00,927 --> 01:43:04,012
But nonetheless, we would need to know
what they learnt, taxpayers paid for this.
1729
01:43:04,013 --> 01:43:07,349
And I think offering amnesty
is extremely important.
1730
01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:10,518
Let the past stay in the past,
then collectively move forward.
1731
01:43:10,519 --> 01:43:13,271
It's essential we keep
working on our proposal.
1732
01:43:13,272 --> 01:43:18,151
I'd like to just acknowledge
my dear friend, the late Harry Reid,
1733
01:43:18,152 --> 01:43:20,862
a mentor who cared
about this issue a great deal.
1734
01:43:20,863 --> 01:43:23,031
So he's looking down and smiling on us,
1735
01:43:23,032 --> 01:43:26,368
but he's also importuning us
to get the rest of this done,
1736
01:43:26,369 --> 01:43:29,204
which we will do everything
we can to make happen.
1737
01:43:29,205 --> 01:43:33,416
But where there was smoke, there was
a fire, and Congress is now aware of it.
1738
01:43:33,417 --> 01:43:38,965
And so what that allows us to do
is circle the wagons and try again.
1739
01:43:43,761 --> 01:43:46,222
Welcome to today's historic hearing.
1740
01:43:47,348 --> 01:43:50,475
There are certain individuals
who didn't want this hearing to happen
1741
01:43:50,476 --> 01:43:53,521
because they feared
what might be disclosed.
1742
01:43:55,064 --> 01:43:59,275
Do you solemnly swear to affirm that
the testimony that you are about to give
1743
01:43:59,276 --> 01:44:01,069
{\an8}is the truth, the whole truth,
1744
01:44:01,070 --> 01:44:03,905
{\an8}and nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
1745
01:44:03,906 --> 01:44:05,448
{\an8} I do.
1746
01:44:05,449 --> 01:44:09,244
{\an8}Has the government conducted secret
UAP crash retrieval programs? Yes or no?
1747
01:44:09,245 --> 01:44:10,453
{\an8}Yes.
1748
01:44:10,454 --> 01:44:13,873
{\an8}Were they designed to identify and
reverse engineer alien craft, yes or no?
1749
01:44:13,874 --> 01:44:15,709
{\an8}Yes.
1750
01:44:15,710 --> 01:44:18,336
{\an8}Excessive secrecy
has led to grave misdeeds
1751
01:44:18,337 --> 01:44:22,257
{\an8}against loyal civil servants,
military personnel, and the public
1752
01:44:22,258 --> 01:44:26,511
{\an8}all to hide the fact
that we are not alone in the cosmos.
1753
01:44:26,512 --> 01:44:29,055
{\an8}The US is in possession
of UAP technologies,
1754
01:44:29,056 --> 01:44:31,099
{\an8}as are some of our adversaries.
1755
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:34,561
{\an8}We are in the midst
of a multi-decade secretive arms race.
1756
01:44:34,562 --> 01:44:37,939
{\an8}One funded
by misallocated taxpayer dollars
1757
01:44:37,940 --> 01:44:42,027
{\an8}and hidden from our elected
representatives and oversight bodies.
1758
01:44:42,028 --> 01:44:44,529
{\an8}Now that we know UAP
are interacting with humanity,
1759
01:44:44,530 --> 01:44:46,239
{\an8}we should not turn a blind eye,
1760
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,576
{\an8}but instead boldly face
this new reality and learn from it.
1761
01:44:49,577 --> 01:44:52,662
{\an8}One of the most important actions
that can be taken relative to exposing
1762
01:44:52,663 --> 01:44:56,166
{\an8}the truth of UAP is to combat the stigma.
1763
01:44:56,167 --> 01:45:00,587
{\an8}NASA personnel stepping forward
and participating in such discussions
1764
01:45:00,588 --> 01:45:03,966
{\an8}would make a powerful statement
to the scientific community
1765
01:45:04,091 --> 01:45:07,886
{\an8}that UAP should be taken seriously
and researched accordingly.
1766
01:45:07,887 --> 01:45:09,637
{\an8}To the incoming administration
and Congress,
1767
01:45:09,638 --> 01:45:13,016
{\an8}I say to you, we need
immediate public transparency,
1768
01:45:13,017 --> 01:45:15,643
{\an8}and this hearing
is an important step on that journey.
1769
01:45:15,644 --> 01:45:17,145
{\an8}The truth is out there.
1770
01:45:17,146 --> 01:45:21,275
{\an8}We just need to be bold enough
and brave enough to face it.
1771
01:45:29,158 --> 01:45:31,534
America wants their pizzas
in 30 minutes or less,
1772
01:45:31,535 --> 01:45:33,369
and that's about our attention span.
1773
01:45:33,370 --> 01:45:37,248
And I think the Legacy Program is, um--
1774
01:45:37,249 --> 01:45:41,086
They think that America
will draw its attention somewhere else,
1775
01:45:41,087 --> 01:45:42,962
and I just don't think that's the case.
1776
01:45:42,963 --> 01:45:44,422
I think we've let the fuse.
1777
01:45:44,423 --> 01:45:49,011
I think the American people
are ready to receive the truth.
1778
01:45:52,681 --> 01:45:56,601
Sitting here
in a Senate building
1779
01:45:56,602 --> 01:46:00,230
recognizing what change
has been occurring,
1780
01:46:00,231 --> 01:46:03,650
I never thought I'd see
this day come frankly.
1781
01:46:03,651 --> 01:46:06,069
And now that I see it here,
1782
01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:09,697
I am unbelievably hopeful
1783
01:46:09,698 --> 01:46:13,493
that it's going to filter down
into our society
1784
01:46:13,494 --> 01:46:16,955
to where everyone realizes
that the human species
1785
01:46:16,956 --> 01:46:22,460
is actually in a melting pot
of many species throughout the galaxy.
1786
01:46:22,461 --> 01:46:25,046
What I expect to come out of that is,
1787
01:46:25,047 --> 01:46:28,842
first of all, a greater appreciation
of what it means to be a human.
1788
01:46:28,843 --> 01:46:34,139
And to me, that kind of change
on the human character
1789
01:46:34,140 --> 01:46:38,685
is probably more significant
than what we can learn about
1790
01:46:38,686 --> 01:46:41,563
atoms and molecules
and propulsion systems.
1791
01:46:41,564 --> 01:46:43,857
My grandchildren are going to grow up
1792
01:46:43,858 --> 01:46:46,484
taking into account
and thinking about the fact
1793
01:46:46,485 --> 01:46:49,737
that the universe,
uh, is full of life.
1794
01:46:49,738 --> 01:46:54,367
We're on the threshold
of an entirely different understanding
1795
01:46:54,368 --> 01:46:57,162
of the universe
and our place within it
1796
01:46:57,163 --> 01:47:01,457
and technological opportunities
and possibilities
1797
01:47:01,458 --> 01:47:05,253
that were the stuff of science fiction
just a few years ago.
1798
01:47:05,254 --> 01:47:07,380
The people behind the Legacy Program
1799
01:47:07,381 --> 01:47:10,508
truly believe
that the secret is so intense
1800
01:47:10,509 --> 01:47:13,219
that they can't share it
with the American people.
1801
01:47:13,220 --> 01:47:17,140
There may be aspects of this
that are so intense they can't share it.
1802
01:47:17,141 --> 01:47:20,935
However, I think the basic fact
that we are not alone in the universe,
1803
01:47:20,936 --> 01:47:22,604
we can share that
with the American people.
1804
01:47:22,605 --> 01:47:24,105
We can handle it at this point.
1805
01:47:24,106 --> 01:47:27,775
Hopefully one day, the American people
will learn the bigger story
1806
01:47:27,776 --> 01:47:29,360
and how it impacts us all.
1807
01:47:29,361 --> 01:47:32,655
I want to tell the American people
what I know,
1808
01:47:32,656 --> 01:47:36,576
but I can't because a vast majority
of it remains highly classified.
1809
01:47:36,577 --> 01:47:39,704
I feel tremendous pressure
to share what I can
1810
01:47:39,705 --> 01:47:42,040
because I know there will come a time
1811
01:47:42,041 --> 01:47:44,835
where we all wish
we had done things differently.
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That moment is imminent,
and when that moment comes,
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I know people will say, "I wish
somebody would've told me sooner."
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Remember, as far as we've come,
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we are still only just beginning
the greatest paradigm shift
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in human history,
the age of disclosure.
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