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In the criminal justice system,
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the people are represented
by two separate yet equally important groups.
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The police,
who investigate crime,
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and the Crown Prosecutors,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Look just ten minutes.
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Babes I need to see you,
I'm going out of my mind here.
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Yeah, I know
and I'm gonna tell her, I swear.
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- Please!
- It's not easy for me.
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- Your phone!
- What you doing?
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- I need your phone! My son...
- Get off!
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Emergency! Yeah, fire.
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There's a bloody building
burning down.
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- Is there anyone else?
- My son-- my son's inside.
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Yeah, her boy.
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It's above the newsagents.
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I don't know how long
it's been going on.
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Yeah, okay. It's alright,
they're on their way.
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I hesitate to use
the word lucky,
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but it could've been
a hell of a lot worse.
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Right,
well I tell you what Mike, it looks bad enough to me.
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Yeah.
The lad from the flat didn't make it.
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- Right.
- CO asphyxiation.
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- That's the lad there.
- Looks like he never woke up.
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And we're talking
suspicious origins, are we?
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Yeah, the guys reckon
some sort of accelerant was used.
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But I can't tell you anymore
until we get in there.
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- So, anyone else in the flat Mike?
- Just the mother.
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There's a daughter
but she was at a sleepover.
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And what about the Mum?
How's she doing?
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About how you'd expect.
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- Let me through.
- I'm sorry Sir,
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you won't be able to park there.
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- I'm not moving my car.
- What's going on?
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- I am not gonna wait.
- It's a crime scene.
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- Let me through.
- You can't park there.
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Seriously, I got a right
to see my property.
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- What's the problem?
- That's my shop.
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Okay, just move your car.
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But don't go anywhere,
we need to talk to you as well.
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- Aw! Man, I don't believe this.
- Sir.
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- Your car is obstructing the ambulance.
- I bet I've lost everything.
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Well, there's a woman behind you
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in that ambulance
who has just lost her son.
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So, how about you shut up
and move your car?
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- Seriously?
- Seriously.
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Paint thinner.
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They found the remains
of the container just in the entrance
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to the flats there.
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Looks like
that's your point of origin.
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We'll run tests to confirm
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but if it quacks like a duck...
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Well, whoever did it
wasn't worried about covering their tracks, were they?
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Nah, that's the great thing
about arson.
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Equal opportunity crime.
Any moron can light a fire.
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Poor Ian,
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terrible
what happened in that fire.
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I'm afraid I can't offer you
any tea.
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I'm having one of my bad days.
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- We're fine, really.
- You sure?
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That's beautiful, sweetheart.
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You and your Mum can stay here
as long as you need to.
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She's pretty isn't she, Katie?
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Um, Megan.
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I understand Ian
had learning difficulties.
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Right.
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And do you mind telling us
what was the matter with him?
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He had developmental problems.
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He had trouble
with his breathing,
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and...
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and he was...
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he was slow with stuff.
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He didn't like noise.
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I tried to get him out of there,
I did, I tried.
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The handle was too hot.
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I shouldn't have left him
in there.
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How old was the boy
that died?
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Just turned thirteen.
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No chance of prints off
the bottle of paint thinner?
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No, it was too badly burnt.
The DNA's a no-go as well.
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And I'm guessing it's available
at all good retailers?
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Well, you wouldn't want
to make it too easy.
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- Any sign of forced entry?
- Doesn't look like it.
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The mum made her escape
from a fire exit on the first floor,
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but according to her statement
it was still locked when she got there.
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- So, she wakes up, she smells smoke she--
- Tries to save her son,
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then she goes for help.
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Do we know who owns
the building?
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Well, the flats are owned
by a management company,
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if it's an insurance scam
it's a pretty bad one.
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They should've at least tried
to fake some sort of forced entry
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and as far as I can see,
they've got nothing to gain by it.
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Yeah, and the shop downstairs
is another story, though.
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Owned by one Sanjit Chatterjee,
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currently under investigation
for unpaid VAT,
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and selling alcohol
without a license.
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He's already got
one failed business, under his belt.
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Declared bankrupt in 2006
at the tender age of 25.
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So, not exactly
young entrepreneur of the year.
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- And he's got a stupid beard.
- That's enough for me.
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I see here,
you had a flood six months ago.
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Yeah, burst pipe.
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Careful, man, huh!
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Sorry boss.
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You claimed ten grand's worth
of damages?
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Yeah,
a lot of stock got damaged.
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And then the year before that
there's an electrical fire.
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Another five-grand claim
on the insurance.
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So, fire, flood,
all you need now is an act of God.
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- So, what? You think I did this?
- We know you've got cash flow problems.
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Especially as far as
the VAT man's concerned.
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Then, it wouldn't
be the first time you cut your losses.
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Oh, here we go.
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Look, I was young...
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decided to try my hand at the music business.
It didn't work out.
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As for the VAT,
my accountant stuffed up, that was all.
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I'm getting it sorted.
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But nice big insurance claim
should help a lot.
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Yeah, it would.
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Trouble is I couldn't afford
the premiums.
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You claim once
and it's bad enough.
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But claim twice,
forget about it.
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You're saying
you're not insured?
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I had to take a payment break.
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Talk about timing.
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Devlin.
Hey, Ange, what you got?
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Seriously, man.
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My grandparents
put their savings into this place.
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My-- my whole family help out.
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There is no way I'd torch it.
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Really? Okay.
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Yeah sure, we'll head over now.
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Megan Parnell, the woman
from the flat. Apparently, she made several complaints
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to her Safer Neighborhood Team.
Some of the local lads
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were giving her a hard time
on account of her son and his special needs.
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Right, and how bad did it get?
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Bad enough to get
one of them an ASBO.
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We're closed,
yeah!
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Yeah, what?
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Simone Lewis?
DS Brooks, DS Devlin.
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We need to talk
to you about your sons, please.
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- Which ones?
- Aaron and Lee.
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Oh, not this again.
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Leave them alone, can't you?
They're just kids.
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We're investigating a fire
at the home of Megan Parnell.
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- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah.
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And we understand that your boys
have been giving Megan
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and her kids
a bit of a hard time.
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Yeah.
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So, what?
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So, perhaps you wouldn't mind
telling us where they're at one o'clock this morning.
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Just answer the question
please, Aaron.
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- Sorry, did you say something?
- You know what I reckon, Lee?
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I just think you're playing
with us here, I really do.
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I mean how old are ya?
Nine? Ten?
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Eleven.
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Wanker.
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Wanker? That's a bit harsh.
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Where were you
at one o'clock this morning?
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Nah, sorry. I don't speak gay.
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Actually, I'm quite a nice bloke
when you get to know me.
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Or so I'm told.
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It's not just your hair that looks gay.
You've even got a gay face.
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I mean, how old's Aaron?
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He's thirteen.
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I think he reckons he's too cool
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to be hanging around
with his little brother any more.
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No, you don't.
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Did you always know you was
a bender?
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Is that why you became a copper?
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Doesn't he think
that you're cramping his style?
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Especially as he's acting
the big 'I am' out and about
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with all his mates
trying to impress them.
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Meanwhile you're stuck at home
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because he wants to be out
with kids his own age.
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He thinks you're a baby.
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He couldn't even get
in there without me.
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The window's too small.
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Right, I see it now.
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So he's the brains
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and you're the brawn.
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So,
how small is this window then?
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They were at school?
In the middle of the night?
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Won't set foot in the place
in daylight but apparently spend their nights
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- trashing school property.
- We believe them?
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Well, camera footage has them
near the school gates at 12:10
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and then again
at 3:30 this morning.
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What were they doing in there
for three hours?
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According to the head teacher,
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defecating in the Home Ec. Lab.
Amongst other things.
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For three hours?
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I suppose we can charge them
with criminal damage
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and
then we've gotta let them go.
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Why bother?
They'll only be back again next week.
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I dunno.
Might be a little bit longer. I think we put the frighteners
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- on the little one.
- Impart some fatherly wisdom, did you Ron?
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Well, it wouldn't be the first
young tear away I've had to sort out, would it?
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Ay, Mattie?
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OK,
so one of the neighbors thinks
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she saw a white,
middle-aged man, medium height, medium build.
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Knock on the door
late afternoon and then walk away.
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Other than that,
we've got nothing.
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According to social services,
CSA have been after Megan's ex
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for the past year
for non-payment of maintenance.
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And well, apparently
Parnell's got a bit of a temper.
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There's a note on here
and it says,
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"He is extremely abusive
and uncooperative."
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- Hardly a first.
- Yeah, but what are the odds?
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He's white, middle-aged,
medium height and medium build?
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- Ian's what, thirteen?
- Yeah.
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So, that gives Craig another
five years of payments.
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For a son, he wanted nothing to do with.
Or so we're told.
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So, he kills his son
to save money?
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I've known people kill for less.
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- When did you last see your son?
- Ah!
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I don't know. A month ago.
Maybe two.
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Really?
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Yeah. Me and his mum...
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we don't get on.
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I understand there's
been a few problems regarding maintenance payments.
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Megan been bending your ear,
has she?
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It must be
an expensive business, supporting a family
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and trying to start
a new life for yourself?
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Look, Ian belonged in a home.
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Megan wouldn't have it.
Wanted to keep him with her.
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He was her son.
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And I was the one forking out.
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He'd have been better off
somewhere where they could look after him properly.
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Seems a bit extreme, doesn't it?
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Residential care for a kid
with learning difficulties.
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Learning difficulties?
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He was full on retarded.
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He's thirteen years old
and still wearing nappies.
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So, is that why you
and Megan split up?
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I guess I wasn't cut out
to be a dad.
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Not for a kid like that.
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So, sue me.
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So, you weren't
outside Megan's flat Monday afternoon?
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No.
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Why has someone said I was like?
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Would it change your story
if they had?
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Okay. Fine. Yeah.
I went round there.
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00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:01,808
I'm just fed up with the hassle
I'm getting from the CSA.
244
00:12:02,156 --> 00:12:03,809
I wanted to talk
to Megan face to face.
245
00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:05,767
- So, what happened?
- Nothing. She wasn't there.
246
00:12:05,768 --> 00:12:08,989
- Why lie about it?
- I don't need more hassle.
247
00:12:09,337 --> 00:12:12,601
Or maybe you went round there later?
Say 1 am?
248
00:12:13,863 --> 00:12:14,908
Just forget it.
249
00:12:16,213 --> 00:12:17,344
I was with my girlfriend
we went out for dinner.
250
00:12:17,345 --> 00:12:18,781
Afterwards we went back
to her place.
251
00:12:19,913 --> 00:12:22,654
Parnell's girlfriend
has confirmed his alibi.
252
00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:24,961
She also said that his son...
253
00:12:25,483 --> 00:12:28,050
Ian had a thing
about playing with matches.
254
00:12:28,051 --> 00:12:31,794
And if anyone was gonna
be starting a fire it would have probably been him.
255
00:12:32,099 --> 00:12:34,796
But neither Mum nor Dad
mentioned this obsession with fire?
256
00:12:34,797 --> 00:12:35,842
Nah, funny that.
257
00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,408
So, what?
258
00:12:38,409 --> 00:12:40,280
This girlfriend's going
the extra mile to stand by her man?
259
00:12:40,281 --> 00:12:43,500
I reckon,
which probably makes her man even more of a likely suspect.
260
00:12:43,501 --> 00:12:45,765
Still, it wouldn't hurt
to rule the boy out altogether.
261
00:12:46,417 --> 00:12:48,506
Is there any way
he could've got hold of paint thinner?
262
00:12:48,898 --> 00:12:52,293
Well, we can check,
but whether he knew what it was is another matter.
263
00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:59,126
Nah, not possible.
I keep everything locked up in a cupboard.
264
00:12:59,866 --> 00:13:01,780
Well,
where do you keep the keys?
265
00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:03,347
On the ledge, above the door.
266
00:13:05,132 --> 00:13:07,961
Well, that's not
the most original place to hide it, is it?
267
00:13:08,352 --> 00:13:09,614
Who's gonna be looking?
268
00:13:13,401 --> 00:13:15,142
Did Ian know you kept it
up there?
269
00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:17,797
Maybe.
270
00:13:19,102 --> 00:13:21,713
I come here what,
two, three times a month?
271
00:13:22,671 --> 00:13:24,716
I do all the maintenance
for the building.
272
00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:26,022
Ian...
273
00:13:26,762 --> 00:13:27,850
he didn't like noise,
274
00:13:29,896 --> 00:13:32,072
but if it was a quiet job,
you know, like changing light bulbs or something,
275
00:13:32,463 --> 00:13:34,074
sometimes he'd sit and watch.
276
00:13:34,465 --> 00:13:36,728
- Gave his mum a break, you know?
- Mmhm!
277
00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:39,601
And where do you normally
keep the paint thinner?
278
00:13:39,906 --> 00:13:41,081
In there with the paint.
279
00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:45,607
Well, I can't see any.
280
00:13:50,873 --> 00:13:52,005
Well, it was there.
281
00:13:57,924 --> 00:14:00,055
Ian had a rare condition
known as
282
00:14:00,056 --> 00:14:02,058
childhood
disintegrative disorder.
283
00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:04,582
It's sometimes known
as Heller's syndrome.
284
00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:07,585
Sometimes
the condition plateaus,
285
00:14:08,369 --> 00:14:10,850
but, sadly with Ian,
he continued to deteriorate.
286
00:14:11,111 --> 00:14:12,502
And when you say deteriorate,
287
00:14:12,503 --> 00:14:14,374
I mean to what extent
are we talking about?
288
00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:16,332
He required constant monitoring
289
00:14:16,333 --> 00:14:19,206
for his respiratory
and digestive functions.
290
00:14:19,989 --> 00:14:24,211
He also became
increasingly aggressive and violent,
291
00:14:24,646 --> 00:14:27,605
and there was
a marked deterioration in his motor skills.
292
00:14:28,780 --> 00:14:31,174
Would he have been
able to unlock a door?
293
00:14:32,523 --> 00:14:35,744
What about climbing up
on to something, getting a key off a ledge?
294
00:14:36,179 --> 00:14:37,789
No. Not Ian.
295
00:14:38,965 --> 00:14:40,705
By the time he left here...
296
00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:43,230
he couldn't get a spoon
to his mouth.
297
00:14:46,146 --> 00:14:47,843
Right, well thanks very much
for your time.
298
00:14:48,626 --> 00:14:52,674
You know,
Ian used to be a sweet, happy boy.
299
00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:55,938
His mother wanted
so badly to believe he would get better.
300
00:14:56,765 --> 00:14:59,507
When she finally understood
he was only going to get worse.
301
00:15:00,421 --> 00:15:03,511
I watched it sink in,
to be honest...
302
00:15:05,426 --> 00:15:07,036
I thought it would kill her.
303
00:15:09,212 --> 00:15:11,388
- She wouldn't be the first.
- I know.
304
00:15:13,303 --> 00:15:15,783
I mean she was at the scene,
she had access to the accelerant.
305
00:15:15,784 --> 00:15:16,741
I know.
306
00:15:20,136 --> 00:15:22,225
Why do people
ever decide to have kids...
307
00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:25,272
when you've got no idea
what you're letting yourself in for?
308
00:15:26,882 --> 00:15:29,580
Well, you've just gotta love 'em
and hope for the best.
309
00:15:31,191 --> 00:15:32,540
What if there is no hope?
310
00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:35,717
Okay, this is Megan's bedroom.
311
00:15:37,849 --> 00:15:39,633
Yeah, what am I looking at?
312
00:15:39,634 --> 00:15:41,940
According to her statement,
Megan said she woke up, smelt smoke
313
00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:43,506
and then ran out of the room.
314
00:15:43,507 --> 00:15:45,378
Does that bed
look slept in to you?
315
00:15:46,467 --> 00:15:49,338
Plus, the bedroom door was shut,
316
00:15:49,339 --> 00:15:51,601
that's why there's so little
fire damage in there.
317
00:15:51,602 --> 00:15:52,690
And then there's this.
318
00:15:54,518 --> 00:15:56,519
She told us she tried
to get Ian out
319
00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,306
but she couldn't
because the door handle was too hot to touch.
320
00:16:00,002 --> 00:16:02,221
Hello Brooks.
321
00:16:02,222 --> 00:16:04,310
Except that Ian's door
was already open. She wouldn't have had to touch the handle.
322
00:16:04,311 --> 00:16:08,141
Look, it was dark, she
was surrounded by flames and smoke.
323
00:16:08,445 --> 00:16:10,359
- She was disorientated.
- Guv, it's not--
324
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,839
Matt, I'm serious.
325
00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,667
Before I start accusing a mother
of killing her child--
326
00:16:13,668 --> 00:16:15,017
Guv, I'm sorry.
327
00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:17,150
That's the lab.
328
00:16:17,498 --> 00:16:20,195
They've finished testing items
from the scene.
329
00:16:21,937 --> 00:16:23,373
Megan Parnell's sweatshirt...
330
00:16:24,244 --> 00:16:25,854
Has got paint thinner on it.
331
00:16:29,292 --> 00:16:30,206
Bring her in.
332
00:16:31,338 --> 00:16:32,426
I don't understand.
333
00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:36,908
Well, Megan you told us
that you woke up,
334
00:16:37,953 --> 00:16:39,607
and then you went to save Ian.
335
00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:41,043
That's right.
336
00:16:41,957 --> 00:16:43,350
I tried to get him out.
337
00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:47,092
Well, we think
that you never went to bed in the first place.
338
00:16:47,093 --> 00:16:48,007
What?
339
00:16:49,182 --> 00:16:50,618
Your bed was still made.
340
00:16:53,534 --> 00:16:55,710
And the door to your bedroom
was shut tight.
341
00:16:58,278 --> 00:16:59,975
That's what slowed
the fire down.
342
00:17:02,804 --> 00:17:04,632
I don't know
what you're talking about.
343
00:17:06,242 --> 00:17:07,548
Well, you see Megan...
344
00:17:10,681 --> 00:17:12,944
we think you waited...
345
00:17:13,902 --> 00:17:15,164
till Ian fell asleep.
346
00:17:16,992 --> 00:17:19,038
Then you went down
and got the paint thinner.
347
00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:22,302
You poured it on the stairs,
348
00:17:22,606 --> 00:17:23,651
you lit it,
349
00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:26,784
and then you made your escape
through the fire exit.
350
00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:29,526
No, that's not what happened.
351
00:17:30,832 --> 00:17:33,616
Well, you see Megan we know
352
00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:36,229
that things got
really desperate for you.
353
00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:37,926
Maybe...
354
00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:41,885
Maybe you didn't mean
for Ian to die.
355
00:17:41,886 --> 00:17:44,018
Maybe you were just trying
to let someone know
356
00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:46,021
that you really needed help.
357
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,633
No, it wasn't like that.
I swear.
358
00:17:53,159 --> 00:17:54,899
You see, all--
all this evidence.
359
00:17:56,336 --> 00:17:58,120
It leads
to one conclusion Megan.
360
00:18:00,166 --> 00:18:01,732
that you started that fire,
361
00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:04,866
and you left your son to die.
362
00:18:13,266 --> 00:18:14,267
My lady,
363
00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:18,967
my client has already had
to endure the untimely death of one child.
364
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,448
I would ask
that she not be separated from her remaining child
365
00:18:22,449 --> 00:18:24,407
pending
the resolution of this matter.
366
00:18:25,234 --> 00:18:26,148
Miss Phillips?
367
00:18:28,281 --> 00:18:30,370
We believe the defendant
to be responsible for the "untimely death" of her child.
368
00:18:30,631 --> 00:18:33,676
Given the nature of the crime,
we maintain that bail should be refused.
369
00:18:33,677 --> 00:18:34,678
My Lady,
370
00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:38,378
this will only compound
a grieving mother's suffering,
371
00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:40,030
and based on what?
372
00:18:40,031 --> 00:18:41,903
The defendant
is charged with murder.
373
00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:44,209
The Crown
would not have undertaken this prosecution
374
00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:45,775
without sufficient evidence.
375
00:18:45,776 --> 00:18:47,865
I believe
that has yet to be demonstrated.
376
00:18:48,214 --> 00:18:50,390
That is why
we have trials, Mr. Peck.
377
00:18:55,395 --> 00:18:58,485
Hey.
Hope you didn't take that personally.
378
00:18:58,746 --> 00:18:59,616
Sorry?
379
00:19:00,835 --> 00:19:01,662
Thought I should bring out
the big guns.
380
00:19:02,793 --> 00:19:03,576
Seeing as
the poor woman's innocent.
381
00:19:03,577 --> 00:19:05,143
You sure about that?
382
00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,668
Absolutely, so long as she
doesn't tell me any different.
383
00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:10,366
It's Alesha, right?
Dominic.
384
00:19:10,801 --> 00:19:13,108
I'm glad to have an excuse
to get to know you at last.
385
00:19:13,717 --> 00:19:17,067
Your average female barrister
looks like a pig in a wig.
386
00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:19,680
- Excuse me?
- Come on, you know it's true.
387
00:19:20,637 --> 00:19:22,900
I think we're going
to have a lot of fun, you and I.
388
00:19:23,292 --> 00:19:25,338
I mean, I'm not saying
it won't be a challenge
389
00:19:25,686 --> 00:19:28,906
selling the lovely Mrs. Parnell
to a jury.
390
00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:31,299
But, hey
it's all in the presentation.
391
00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:34,824
And as far as I can remember
being fat and stupid isn't a crime.
392
00:19:34,825 --> 00:19:36,000
More's the pity.
393
00:19:37,741 --> 00:19:39,742
Now, Mrs. Parnell,
where were we?
394
00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:41,615
I thought the evidence was conclusive.
395
00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:43,182
Yeah, it is.
396
00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,226
So, why plead not guilty?
397
00:19:45,227 --> 00:19:47,142
Does her lawyer
know something that we don't?
398
00:19:48,012 --> 00:19:49,797
I doubt it. The guy's an idiot.
399
00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:54,367
He's just hoping that the jury
will find her too sympathetic to convict.
400
00:19:54,845 --> 00:19:56,499
- And is she?
- Hardly.
401
00:19:57,108 --> 00:19:59,763
This wasn't some kind of
compassionate mercy killing.
402
00:20:00,242 --> 00:20:03,244
She set fire to a building
with her disabled son trapped inside
403
00:20:03,245 --> 00:20:05,855
and she didn't care
how many other lives she put in danger.
404
00:20:05,856 --> 00:20:07,727
Still,
it's a highly emotive situation.
405
00:20:07,728 --> 00:20:10,120
She'd been caring
for a severely disabled child
406
00:20:10,121 --> 00:20:12,123
for years with little
or no support.
407
00:20:12,341 --> 00:20:14,429
They're bound to try
and use the boy's condition
408
00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:16,563
to cultivate sympathy
for the defendant.
409
00:20:16,867 --> 00:20:18,303
Yeah, which is fair enough.
410
00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:19,913
We're not saying
she wasn't struggling,
411
00:20:19,914 --> 00:20:21,784
but that's hardly justification
for murder.
412
00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:25,048
They could go down the route
of diminished responsibility.
413
00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:28,139
You said that she was
on antidepressants for the last couple of years?
414
00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:30,968
No, they don't have grounds
for diminished responsibility.
415
00:20:31,273 --> 00:20:32,882
She had a full psych assessment
416
00:20:32,883 --> 00:20:35,234
when she was in custody
and nothing was flagged up.
417
00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:39,412
But it would be good
to establish state of mind before the event.
418
00:20:40,326 --> 00:20:43,153
You said that Megan visited
the emergency department
419
00:20:43,154 --> 00:20:45,026
- with Ian two days prior to the fire?
- Mmhm.
420
00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:47,855
Okay so,
421
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:49,813
we talk to
the doctor who saw them.
422
00:20:50,074 --> 00:20:52,860
- Get a professional opinion.
- Very good. Good.
423
00:20:53,774 --> 00:20:55,123
Go forth and prosecute.
424
00:20:57,517 --> 00:20:59,344
No, there was no abuse involved.
425
00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:03,218
The skull fracture came
from autistic-type head banging.
426
00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:06,742
The broken wrist was sustained
during an epileptic seizure
427
00:21:06,743 --> 00:21:08,571
and the broken ribs came
from a fall.
428
00:21:09,093 --> 00:21:11,357
We also treated his mother
on several occasions.
429
00:21:11,618 --> 00:21:13,662
What for?
430
00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:16,404
The last time was when she tried
to hold him down to protect him during a seizure.
431
00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:19,059
He threw her off
and she chipped a bone in her elbow.
432
00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:20,496
- Was it deliberate?
- No.
433
00:21:21,018 --> 00:21:22,845
No, he wouldn't have known
what he was doing.
434
00:21:22,846 --> 00:21:25,936
But the situation was obviously
becoming impossible.
435
00:21:27,198 --> 00:21:28,808
The last time we spoke,
436
00:21:28,809 --> 00:21:33,292
I suggested she rethink
the idea of residential care.
437
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,858
And what did she say?
438
00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:38,297
She said if it came to that,
he'd be better off dead.
439
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:48,175
It is also the contention
of the defense that the evidence given by Dr Schreiber
440
00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:50,961
should be excluded
under section seventy-eight of PACE.
441
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:52,614
Eleven.
442
00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:54,529
Not to mention the fact
that it falls squarely
443
00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:56,880
under the heading
of patient doctor privilege.
444
00:21:57,272 --> 00:21:58,490
Ah.
445
00:21:58,491 --> 00:22:01,668
My Lady, it was in fact
Mrs. Parnell's son
446
00:22:02,059 --> 00:22:04,626
who was the patient at the time
she made the statement.
447
00:22:04,627 --> 00:22:06,499
Then privilege is irrelevant,
448
00:22:06,847 --> 00:22:09,196
as are your other objections,
Mr. Peck.
449
00:22:09,197 --> 00:22:11,198
In that case,
I also wish to apply
450
00:22:11,199 --> 00:22:13,592
to exclude the sweatshirt
worn by Mrs. Parnell
451
00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:16,334
on the night of the fire
under section seventy-eight of PACE.
452
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:19,293
- Twelve.
- How can the prosecution claim that
453
00:22:19,294 --> 00:22:21,904
it is the exact
same paint thinner
454
00:22:21,905 --> 00:22:23,342
that was used to start the fire?
455
00:22:24,952 --> 00:22:28,258
I believe that's a question
for our expert witness, My Lady.
456
00:22:28,259 --> 00:22:31,087
But there's also the manner
in which the sweatshirt was obtained--
457
00:22:31,088 --> 00:22:33,482
Mr. Peck, please stop.
458
00:22:34,222 --> 00:22:36,529
The sweatshirt stays in.
459
00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:39,358
I suggest you quit
while you're--
460
00:22:40,533 --> 00:22:42,361
Well, I suggest you quit anyway.
461
00:22:43,013 --> 00:22:45,188
Trial is listed
for 10 am tomorrow.
462
00:22:45,189 --> 00:22:47,974
I see no reason
to delay any further.
463
00:22:50,804 --> 00:22:54,415
Do you think he's read anything
other than section seventy-eight of PACE?
464
00:22:54,416 --> 00:22:55,939
I doubt he's even read that.
465
00:22:58,812 --> 00:23:01,510
Dominic Peck, okay.
466
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,254
No, I won't be able to do it
within the hour. But I'll try.
467
00:23:07,342 --> 00:23:08,951
- We can have it done quick...
- Excuse me.
468
00:23:08,952 --> 00:23:10,344
...or we can have it done right
469
00:23:10,345 --> 00:23:12,434
Do you know what time
we're meant to go back in?
470
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:15,219
We'll be starting again at two.
471
00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:21,008
It's just they said I could see
my little girl today.
472
00:23:21,269 --> 00:23:24,403
- Really? Who told you that?
- Now, now, Mrs. Parnell.
473
00:23:24,881 --> 00:23:28,232
No fraternizing with the enemy.
Come on.
474
00:23:35,501 --> 00:23:39,025
And have you ever come
across someone waking up with their home on fire,
475
00:23:39,026 --> 00:23:41,942
taking the time to make the bed
before leaving the building?
476
00:23:42,638 --> 00:23:44,074
Not in my experience.
477
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:46,512
Thank you. No further questions.
478
00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:52,342
Mr. Harris,
479
00:23:52,343 --> 00:23:55,259
in warm weather,
I'm sure most of us tend to sleep on top of the covers.
480
00:23:55,912 --> 00:23:58,132
The night of the fire
it was below freezing.
481
00:23:59,612 --> 00:24:02,570
But still,
if someone were reading a book or a magazine
482
00:24:02,571 --> 00:24:04,616
they might still fall asleep
on top of the covers
483
00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:06,749
regardless of the temperature,
mightn't they?
484
00:24:07,663 --> 00:24:08,664
They might.
485
00:24:09,926 --> 00:24:11,623
Thank you.
486
00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:14,931
But no books or magazines
were found by the defendant's bed.
487
00:24:20,241 --> 00:24:23,505
I told her she should consider
placing him in residential care.
488
00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:25,638
And what was her response?
489
00:24:27,509 --> 00:24:30,685
She was worried
that other people wouldn't look after him properly.
490
00:24:30,686 --> 00:24:34,255
I know
there had been some difficulties when they tried respite care,
491
00:24:34,603 --> 00:24:36,299
but I told her
it would be different
492
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:39,215
if he was found
a permanent place in a suitable institution.
493
00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:41,349
But she was still unconvinced?
494
00:24:42,524 --> 00:24:44,091
She became very upset.
495
00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:48,443
She said if it came
to putting him in a home...
496
00:24:49,183 --> 00:24:50,489
he'd be better off dead.
497
00:24:54,057 --> 00:24:55,058
Thank you, doctor.
498
00:24:58,105 --> 00:24:59,193
Dr Schreiber,
499
00:25:01,064 --> 00:25:04,284
I'm sure you're aware
that people exaggerate sometimes for effect?
500
00:25:04,285 --> 00:25:05,286
Of course.
501
00:25:06,679 --> 00:25:07,983
- Did you think she wanted him dead?
- My lady--
502
00:25:07,984 --> 00:25:11,553
- Let's avoid speculation, Mr. Peck.
- My Lady.
503
00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:14,990
- Did she say she wanted him dead?
- No.
504
00:25:14,991 --> 00:25:18,429
In fact, did she not ask you
about alternative treatments for her son?
505
00:25:18,691 --> 00:25:19,779
Yes, she did.
506
00:25:21,258 --> 00:25:22,999
She told you
that she'd try anything, anything at all,
507
00:25:23,391 --> 00:25:25,305
if it meant
getting her little boy back.
508
00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:27,568
Yes, she did.
She desperately wanted
509
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,179
to improve his quality of life.
510
00:25:31,181 --> 00:25:32,705
Which is quite
the opposite to wanting to end his life, wouldn't you say?
511
00:25:35,229 --> 00:25:37,536
Thank you, Doctor.
I have nothing further.
512
00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:42,410
Did you see the looks
on the jury's faces?
513
00:25:43,063 --> 00:25:45,630
He has them seeing it
as an act of mercy.
514
00:25:45,631 --> 00:25:47,806
It's a risk of a not guilty here
515
00:25:47,807 --> 00:25:49,765
even with an idiot like Peck.
516
00:25:50,331 --> 00:25:53,813
Simply because they're feeling
that poor woman's pain.
517
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,686
I think George could be right.
518
00:25:58,469 --> 00:26:00,079
I know that given the facts,
519
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,430
the charge had to be murder.
But it just doesn't feel right.
520
00:26:03,431 --> 00:26:06,476
I just don't understand
why Peck didn't go for manslaughter from the start,
521
00:26:06,477 --> 00:26:10,089
using the doctor's statement
as evidence of severe emotional distress.
522
00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:12,657
It's what any other
defense lawyer would've done.
523
00:26:12,658 --> 00:26:16,009
Yeah,
well sadly, we can't guarantee the quality of opposing counsel.
524
00:26:17,445 --> 00:26:18,315
Maybe...
525
00:26:19,926 --> 00:26:23,364
we can force
this particular counsel to do the right thing.
526
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:25,018
What do you have in mind?
527
00:26:25,671 --> 00:26:26,715
I'll talk to him,
528
00:26:28,021 --> 00:26:29,936
tell him we'll accept
a plea to manslaughter.
529
00:26:31,328 --> 00:26:33,417
And hope he's got sense enough
to agree.
530
00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:36,638
Interesting.
531
00:26:38,422 --> 00:26:40,337
I think you'll agree.
It's in the best interests of your client.
532
00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:45,473
- Well, I think that's for me to decide.
- No, it's for Megan to decide.
533
00:26:45,865 --> 00:26:47,431
You know,
the woman you're representing.
534
00:26:47,693 --> 00:26:48,868
Manslaughter...
535
00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:53,176
That'd mean a definite
prison sentence though, wouldn't it?
536
00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:56,049
Yep. Usually does.
537
00:26:56,527 --> 00:26:59,573
Thing is, all Megan wants to do
is to stay with little Kayleigh.
538
00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,141
- It's Katie.
- Exactly.
539
00:27:01,881 --> 00:27:04,709
And I promised her
I'd do my damnedest to make it happen.
540
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:06,581
You shouldn't
have promised her anything.
541
00:27:06,886 --> 00:27:09,540
Hey, it's always good
to give the ladies hope.
542
00:27:14,981 --> 00:27:18,724
As predicted, my client wishes
to proceed with the not guilty plea.
543
00:27:19,289 --> 00:27:23,816
You have explained
that a murder conviction carries a mandatory life sentence?
544
00:27:25,034 --> 00:27:26,601
That's not really
the issue here.
545
00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:30,431
I disagree.
546
00:27:32,041 --> 00:27:33,694
Mrs. Parnell, I must stress
that if you are found guilty,
547
00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:35,565
you could be sentenced
to twenty-five years in prison--
548
00:27:35,566 --> 00:27:39,222
- Yes, thank you, Mr. Steel.
- And given the evidence against you...
549
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:43,183
you should know that
that is a very real possibility.
550
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:46,751
But I thought you said
if I pleaded not guilty--
551
00:27:46,752 --> 00:27:49,450
That's enough.
Okay, I think we're done here.
552
00:27:50,756 --> 00:27:52,452
Megan is there anything you want
to say?
553
00:27:52,453 --> 00:27:54,890
I don't appreciate
the scare tactics, Mr. Steel.
554
00:27:55,456 --> 00:27:57,676
It's okay.
He's just trying to confuse you.
555
00:27:57,937 --> 00:28:00,679
Your client has a right to know
what she's risking.
556
00:28:00,983 --> 00:28:03,507
I assure you,
my client is fully informed.
557
00:28:08,382 --> 00:28:09,948
Well, at least she is now.
558
00:28:09,949 --> 00:28:12,037
Makes you wonder
what he's gonna do next.
559
00:28:12,038 --> 00:28:15,215
I know but I bet Megan Parnell
is as in the dark as we are.
560
00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:20,132
...why wouldn't you? Well he's--
561
00:28:20,133 --> 00:28:22,701
James!
Peck's entered a new plea.
562
00:28:23,092 --> 00:28:26,226
- Diminished responsibility?
- Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity.
563
00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:28,662
- Based on what?
- He's found an expert
564
00:28:28,663 --> 00:28:31,970
who'll say Megan Parnell
was legally insane, when she set the fire.
565
00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:33,276
So, first she didn't do it.
566
00:28:34,887 --> 00:28:36,496
Now she did it,
but she didn't know what she was doing.
567
00:28:36,497 --> 00:28:37,802
He's lost the plot.
568
00:28:37,803 --> 00:28:39,804
I mean he must realize
what this could mean?
569
00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:43,416
If it works, Megan could
end up institutionalized for the rest of her life
570
00:28:43,417 --> 00:28:45,724
She wouldn't
just lose her daughter, she'd lose everything.
571
00:28:51,381 --> 00:28:53,774
You know the jury will see this
for the cynical ploy
572
00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:56,560
that it is
and all you'll have done is discredit your client.
573
00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:57,953
Perhaps.
574
00:28:59,128 --> 00:29:00,738
Or perhaps,
they'll be too busy crying
575
00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:03,567
into their hankies
over poor misunderstood Megan.
576
00:29:04,699 --> 00:29:07,571
You shouldn't overestimate
your average parole, James.
577
00:29:09,095 --> 00:29:12,272
It's all about emotion.
Not the truth.
578
00:29:17,451 --> 00:29:20,889
They told us
about 'win-at-any cost' barristers at law school.
579
00:29:21,455 --> 00:29:23,717
First time I've seen one
in action though.
580
00:29:23,718 --> 00:29:27,766
Yeah, Peck's a prime example,
raging ego, limited ability and absolutely no ethics.
581
00:29:27,983 --> 00:29:30,116
He really doesn't care
what happens to Megan.
582
00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:32,292
It's like she's just a pawn
in his game.
583
00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:34,511
Maybe. Maybe not.
584
00:29:34,947 --> 00:29:36,991
She's still the one
who chose to plead not guilty.
585
00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:39,516
If Peck's playing a game,
she's going along with it.
586
00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:42,041
Don't think of her
as the innocent victim here.
587
00:29:46,959 --> 00:29:47,873
Megan...
588
00:29:49,396 --> 00:29:50,919
by pleading insanity...
589
00:29:52,703 --> 00:29:54,793
you understand
that you're saying that when you started the fire
590
00:29:55,054 --> 00:29:56,838
you didn't know it was wrong.
591
00:29:58,884 --> 00:29:59,754
Yeah,
592
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,757
I didn't know what I was doing.
593
00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:04,977
You were upset about Ian?
594
00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:08,981
Yeah but I wasn't thinking properly.
595
00:30:09,416 --> 00:30:11,679
I-- I was upset and confused.
596
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:15,117
Can you tell me
what it was like...
597
00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:17,423
when your son first got ill?
598
00:30:17,424 --> 00:30:19,513
I mean it--
it must have been very difficult.
599
00:30:23,734 --> 00:30:24,953
Yeah, it was really hard.
600
00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:28,914
I understand Ian changed
quite quickly.
601
00:30:35,094 --> 00:30:37,574
It was around the time
of his fourth birthday.
602
00:30:39,881 --> 00:30:42,101
His favorite song
was Old MacDonald,
603
00:30:42,579 --> 00:30:44,059
he was always singing it.
604
00:30:47,019 --> 00:30:48,411
Then,
he forgot that pigs go oink.
605
00:30:52,502 --> 00:30:56,855
He started saying
there was a-- a bad mouse in his head.
606
00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:04,297
A few months later
he-- he stopped talking...
607
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:06,516
and using the toilet.
608
00:31:12,827 --> 00:31:14,785
He wouldn't even
let me hold him.
609
00:31:16,265 --> 00:31:18,702
He--he-- he couldn't bear
to be touched.
610
00:31:22,881 --> 00:31:24,883
Short version.
She's not insane.
611
00:31:25,231 --> 00:31:27,711
Not now and not the night
she started the fire.
612
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,799
But there's a long version?
613
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,977
She certainly
has significant mental health problems. Depression.
614
00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:35,632
Acute anxiety.
Chronic sleep deprivation.
615
00:31:35,937 --> 00:31:39,245
Her son rarely let her sleep
more than two hours at a time.
616
00:31:39,506 --> 00:31:42,247
And that's every night
for thirteen years.
617
00:31:42,248 --> 00:31:44,250
You could argue
that was her choice.
618
00:31:44,641 --> 00:31:47,209
She repeatedly refused
to have him placed in a home.
619
00:31:47,688 --> 00:31:49,777
Has anyone bothered
to ask her why?
620
00:31:50,386 --> 00:31:51,996
Probably not the defense.
621
00:31:51,997 --> 00:31:54,346
Megan's mother
had recurring health problems,
622
00:31:54,347 --> 00:31:55,826
her father was an alcoholic.
623
00:31:56,044 --> 00:31:58,829
Her only other relative
was an aunt in a wheelchair.
624
00:32:00,135 --> 00:32:03,443
So, Megan spent
several long periods in children's homes.
625
00:32:03,965 --> 00:32:05,097
Not happy times?
626
00:32:07,012 --> 00:32:08,969
The standard of care
in the early 80s were "variable" to say the least.
627
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:12,669
Megan was an awkward,
unattractive child, with zero confidence.
628
00:32:13,801 --> 00:32:15,934
We all know how cruel children
can be.
629
00:32:17,239 --> 00:32:18,588
But she wasn't insane?
630
00:32:19,546 --> 00:32:21,765
No. She wasn't.
631
00:32:22,201 --> 00:32:24,203
So, who's he found to say
that she was?
632
00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:29,163
In your opinion Doctor,
633
00:32:29,164 --> 00:32:32,515
was the defendant
severely stressed at the time of the fire?
634
00:32:33,473 --> 00:32:35,474
Based on my interviews
with Megan,
635
00:32:35,475 --> 00:32:39,958
I believe that her stress level
had risen to the clinical designation ACSS.
636
00:32:40,393 --> 00:32:41,611
And what is that?
637
00:32:42,134 --> 00:32:44,266
Acute Caretaker Stress Syndrome.
638
00:32:44,701 --> 00:32:48,009
ACSS is characterized
by irrational behavior,
639
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:51,360
radical emotional dissonance
and cognitive malfunction.
640
00:32:51,752 --> 00:32:54,928
Would she have been able to tell
the difference between right and wrong?
641
00:32:54,929 --> 00:32:56,365
In my opinion, no.
642
00:32:57,410 --> 00:32:58,585
Thank you, Doctor.
643
00:33:03,329 --> 00:33:06,375
Which medical school
did you attend, Dr Arlberg?
644
00:33:06,941 --> 00:33:10,727
My doctorate is in psychoanalytic studies.
I didn't go to medical school.
645
00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:14,557
- So you're not a qualified psychiatrist?
- No, I'm not.
646
00:33:14,818 --> 00:33:18,605
Then, are you affiliated
with any particular hospital or clinic?
647
00:33:18,866 --> 00:33:20,519
Not currently.
648
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,912
For the past few years,
I have been lecturing extensively.
649
00:33:22,913 --> 00:33:26,482
Mainly in the States,
where I also have a syndicated radio program.
650
00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:31,356
In other words,
you're not a psychologist but you play one on the radio.
651
00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:33,619
My lady,
he's mocking the witness.
652
00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:35,665
My Lady.
653
00:33:37,363 --> 00:33:39,843
This disorder,
654
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,236
you've been
talking about Doctor Arlberg.
655
00:33:42,237 --> 00:33:43,498
Um...
656
00:33:43,499 --> 00:33:46,328
Ah yes, "ACSS."
657
00:33:46,981 --> 00:33:49,156
I am, uh, really confused.
658
00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:52,159
I have been looking
through a large number of reference books
659
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,075
and I can't find
a single mention of it.
660
00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,599
It's a relatively new diagnosis.
661
00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,994
That explains it.
Invented by whom?
662
00:34:00,386 --> 00:34:03,606
- It was first identified by myself.
- Oh, I see.
663
00:34:03,911 --> 00:34:07,480
And has it been recognized
by the Royal College of Psychiatrists?
664
00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:09,481
Not yet.
665
00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:12,136
My, my we really are out there
on the cutting edge, aren't we?
666
00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:14,442
- My lady--
- My Lady, the evidence of this witness
667
00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:17,576
could be instrumental in placing
the defendant in a mental institution,
668
00:34:17,577 --> 00:34:19,405
possibly for the rest
of her life.
669
00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:25,411
I think the jury
need to understand the extent of her expertise.
670
00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:27,761
Or the lack of it.
671
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:31,199
No further questions.
672
00:34:35,899 --> 00:34:37,031
Okay, here's the thing.
673
00:34:38,337 --> 00:34:39,555
My client has dropped
a bit of a bombshell.
674
00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:43,255
And well, to be honest.
I'm not entirely sure how to proceed.
675
00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:48,128
Well,
discussing defense strategy with the prosecution
676
00:34:48,129 --> 00:34:50,610
- probably isn't the best way to go.
- Fair point.
677
00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:52,611
Well, we're not really talking
defense anymore
678
00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:54,614
because Mrs. Parnell has
confessed.
679
00:34:56,746 --> 00:34:59,401
She admits to starting the fire
that killed her son?
680
00:34:59,706 --> 00:35:01,142
Yes and no.
681
00:35:01,882 --> 00:35:03,535
She admits to starting the fire,
682
00:35:03,536 --> 00:35:06,234
and she certainly feels
responsibility for her son's death.
683
00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:10,108
But he didn't actually die
in the fire.
684
00:35:12,501 --> 00:35:13,502
He didn't?
685
00:35:13,981 --> 00:35:15,113
Apparently not.
686
00:35:16,549 --> 00:35:18,159
- Um, as I understand it, my client--
- I'm sorry.
687
00:35:19,682 --> 00:35:23,643
Megan, perhaps if you
just tell us what happened?
688
00:35:26,211 --> 00:35:28,038
Ian was having a seizure...
689
00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:31,085
and
he started having convulsions.
690
00:35:33,522 --> 00:35:36,395
I had the syringe
for his injection in my hand.
691
00:35:40,747 --> 00:35:41,835
But I couldn't do it.
692
00:35:45,273 --> 00:35:50,060
I was watching him
and his face was all twisted up in pain.
693
00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:54,413
I just wanted it to stop.
694
00:35:57,111 --> 00:36:00,506
So, I held him and I waited.
695
00:36:03,422 --> 00:36:05,163
When the convulsions ended...
696
00:36:06,468 --> 00:36:07,730
I knew he'd gone.
697
00:36:14,737 --> 00:36:17,652
As you can imagine,
she was distraught, racked with guilt,
698
00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:21,744
and in the emotion of the moment decided to end it all.
Hence, the fire.
699
00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:26,400
And your client didn't think
to mention this before?
700
00:36:26,401 --> 00:36:27,576
Unfortunately, not.
701
00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:31,232
It would have made life
a lot easier all round, if she had.
702
00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:35,105
But, well, as you can see,
this changes everything.
703
00:36:35,802 --> 00:36:36,672
Right.
704
00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:39,936
So, you're thinking, what?
705
00:36:41,286 --> 00:36:42,721
We abandon the charges,
706
00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:46,204
the judge discharges the jury
and we start again?
707
00:36:46,682 --> 00:36:47,944
Well, ideally yes.
708
00:36:49,946 --> 00:36:53,167
I mean, you could charge her
with arson, but failing to give an injection?
709
00:36:54,473 --> 00:36:55,952
I wouldn't fancy your chances.
710
00:36:57,606 --> 00:36:59,695
- I've heard enough.
- Now look, I didn't have to come here.
711
00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:04,482
I could've just blindsided you
in court. But I felt in the interests of justice--
712
00:37:04,483 --> 00:37:05,832
You can see yourselves out.
713
00:37:07,399 --> 00:37:08,269
Fine.
714
00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:09,792
We'll leave it to the jury.
715
00:37:10,184 --> 00:37:11,577
Just don't say
I didn't warn you.
716
00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:18,845
- You didn't believe that, did you?
- I don't know.
717
00:37:19,976 --> 00:37:22,240
Sounds like
she's finally telling the truth.
718
00:37:22,501 --> 00:37:25,111
The post-mortem report
categorically states
719
00:37:25,112 --> 00:37:26,983
smoke inhalation
as cause of death.
720
00:37:27,723 --> 00:37:30,422
The medical evidence means
that she's lying,
721
00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:33,555
or more likely, he's told her
what to say.
722
00:37:34,469 --> 00:37:38,081
But why would Peck even
try this? He must have seen the post-mortem.
723
00:37:38,821 --> 00:37:41,476
"Why bother about truth when
you can go with emotion?"
724
00:37:50,224 --> 00:37:53,706
It was CO asphyxiation.
Absolutely, no doubt about it.
725
00:37:54,663 --> 00:37:55,969
Why the renewed interest?
726
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,103
Well, his mother's claiming
that he died from an epileptic seizure.
727
00:38:00,365 --> 00:38:02,323
That he was already dead
when the fire started.
728
00:38:02,628 --> 00:38:04,846
You've got to be breathing
to get smoke in your lungs.
729
00:38:04,847 --> 00:38:06,501
There's no two ways about it.
730
00:38:07,807 --> 00:38:08,808
Thanks Heather.
731
00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:10,549
Of course.
732
00:38:12,551 --> 00:38:15,379
It is possible that
a particularly violent seizure could result in a coma.
733
00:38:16,729 --> 00:38:19,034
In which case the victim
would be breathing
734
00:38:19,035 --> 00:38:20,950
just enough
to get smoke in his lungs.
735
00:38:21,386 --> 00:38:23,431
But to a lay person,
he might appear dead.
736
00:38:25,390 --> 00:38:27,565
She said
it was a possibility, that's all.
737
00:38:27,566 --> 00:38:31,525
James, it means Megan
must have believed Ian was dead when she started the fire.
738
00:38:31,526 --> 00:38:33,746
Then, why didn't she
plead guilty from the start?
739
00:38:34,094 --> 00:38:36,225
All Megan cares about
is staying with her daughter.
740
00:38:36,226 --> 00:38:38,228
Peck's promised he can make
that happen.
741
00:38:38,664 --> 00:38:41,840
This is a woman who's been
at the mercy of the system her whole life.
742
00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:44,669
Her barrister
tells her what to say, she's not gonna argue with him.
743
00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:46,845
Chances are he wouldn't
have listened to her anyway.
744
00:38:46,846 --> 00:38:49,282
Yeah, exactly.
For all we know, she tried to tell him,
745
00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:51,329
he panicked and
changed her plea to insanity.
746
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:56,377
If she really did
think Ian was dead, then there's no intention to kill.
747
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,293
She should
never have been charged with murder.
748
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:06,909
So, just to clarify
for the jury...
749
00:39:07,257 --> 00:39:09,433
you didn't put Ian
in a residential home,
750
00:39:09,434 --> 00:39:12,611
did you,
because you're his mother and you cared for him?
751
00:39:13,481 --> 00:39:14,482
I couldn't.
752
00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:19,269
He was my baby.
I loved him so much.
753
00:39:21,446 --> 00:39:23,186
No further questions, My Lady.
754
00:39:29,845 --> 00:39:31,064
Mrs. Parnell,
755
00:39:32,892 --> 00:39:36,155
you described to the court
how after Ian died you took his pills
756
00:39:36,156 --> 00:39:39,507
and you started the fire
so, that you could go together.
757
00:39:40,334 --> 00:39:41,379
Yeah, that's right.
758
00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:43,511
The trouble is...
759
00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:46,949
It's very difficult for us
to believe you when you've lied...
760
00:39:47,341 --> 00:39:49,908
over and over again
about the events of that night.
761
00:39:49,909 --> 00:39:52,694
- Well, I didn't mean to lie.
- But the fact is you did.
762
00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:56,480
Uh, the only thing that we know
for certain is that you went down the stairs,
763
00:39:56,481 --> 00:39:59,352
you unlocked
the maintenance cupboard, you poured paint thinner
764
00:39:59,353 --> 00:40:01,398
over the stairs
and you set it alight.
765
00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:04,096
Leaving your young son to die
in that fire.
766
00:40:04,097 --> 00:40:07,274
- No, I wouldn't do that.
- But that's exactly what you did.
767
00:40:08,623 --> 00:40:09,624
No, I didn't.
768
00:40:11,147 --> 00:40:13,149
Because he was already dead.
I told you.
769
00:40:13,498 --> 00:40:15,369
I know you'd like us
to believe that...
770
00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:18,851
but I'm afraid
it's simply not true.
771
00:40:23,072 --> 00:40:25,858
I refer the court
to post-mortem report
772
00:40:26,162 --> 00:40:28,991
on Ian Parnell,
dated March nineteenth.
773
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:33,692
It clearly states...
774
00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:35,650
the cause of death...
775
00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:38,261
was smoke inhalation.
776
00:40:39,393 --> 00:40:40,742
Well, that's not right.
777
00:40:41,351 --> 00:40:44,311
Megan the pathologist
found smoke in Ian's lungs.
778
00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:48,096
It could only have got there
if he was still breathing
779
00:40:48,097 --> 00:40:50,448
- when you started the fire.
- They've-- they've got it wrong.
780
00:40:50,796 --> 00:40:52,753
I was there,
he'd stopped breathing.
781
00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:55,540
Megan, it is simply
physically impossible.
782
00:40:56,323 --> 00:40:57,455
It can't be.
783
00:41:00,501 --> 00:41:01,459
It can't be.
784
00:41:03,156 --> 00:41:04,940
I thought it was a mistake.
785
00:41:06,812 --> 00:41:09,031
Megan, I'm so sorry,
but it wasn't a mistake.
786
00:41:11,294 --> 00:41:12,470
Ian didn't die...
787
00:41:12,992 --> 00:41:14,646
- as a result of the seizure.
- No.
788
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:17,474
It may have looked
like he'd stopped breathing.
789
00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:20,433
In fact, he could have slipped
into a coma,
790
00:41:20,434 --> 00:41:22,435
- and you couldn't tell the difference.
- No.
791
00:41:22,436 --> 00:41:26,440
But I'm afraid the fact is Ian
was still alive when you started the fire.
792
00:41:29,617 --> 00:41:30,575
No.
793
00:41:31,532 --> 00:41:32,446
No.
794
00:41:34,143 --> 00:41:37,320
I-- I-- I would-- I would never
have done that.
795
00:41:39,018 --> 00:41:40,846
I would never have left him to--
796
00:41:42,412 --> 00:41:43,631
Oh my God, no.
797
00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:47,330
Not my little boy.
798
00:41:49,942 --> 00:41:51,247
I-- I wouldn't have.
799
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,037
Not my Ian.
Not...
800
00:42:08,482 --> 00:42:09,788
Peck should be struck off.
801
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,399
To put her up there
without explaining the post-mortem results
802
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,880
that is unforgivable.
803
00:42:15,271 --> 00:42:18,144
I take it that we all believe
she was telling the truth?
804
00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:22,582
Then, now what?
805
00:42:22,583 --> 00:42:24,585
Judge Hall's called us in.
806
00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:28,546
I presume she'll want
to discharge the jury, start again.
807
00:42:28,894 --> 00:42:30,025
With what charge?
808
00:42:31,244 --> 00:42:32,811
It'll still be manslaughter.
809
00:42:35,161 --> 00:42:37,903
She started the fire
that ultimately killed her son.
810
00:42:38,773 --> 00:42:40,774
And she withheld an injection
811
00:42:40,775 --> 00:42:43,604
that could have prevented him
from going into a coma in the first place.
812
00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:49,349
Mercy killing is still killing,
813
00:42:50,350 --> 00:42:51,612
and it's still illegal.
814
00:42:53,919 --> 00:42:56,878
So, Megan Parnell has to spend
the next six months in limbo,
815
00:42:57,139 --> 00:42:59,838
then go through
this all over again, because her lawyer let her down?
816
00:43:00,665 --> 00:43:03,276
But, we can hardly continue
the current trial.
817
00:43:03,668 --> 00:43:05,712
Even if the judge
and the defense agreed,
818
00:43:05,713 --> 00:43:07,801
then Megan could appeal
any conviction
819
00:43:07,802 --> 00:43:10,022
on the grounds
that she was wrongly advised.
820
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:13,939
Which means...
821
00:43:15,244 --> 00:43:17,638
her barrister would be accused
of negligence.
822
00:43:18,987 --> 00:43:22,948
So, with decent representation,
she could be out in six months.
823
00:43:24,645 --> 00:43:27,387
We take defense
out of Peck's hands.
824
00:43:31,957 --> 00:43:35,351
I don't understand.
You want to just carry on?
825
00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:38,267
Having weighed up the options,
826
00:43:40,226 --> 00:43:42,096
the prosecution would still
be prepared to accept a plea to manslaughter.
827
00:43:42,097 --> 00:43:44,839
I'm sure you realize
the implications of continuing?
828
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:49,191
It would spare Megan
the trauma of a second trial.
829
00:43:50,366 --> 00:43:52,934
And whatever sentence
you choose to pass...
830
00:43:53,892 --> 00:43:57,460
could take into account
the circumstances surrounding Ian's death.
831
00:44:02,857 --> 00:44:04,729
Hmmm. That's certainly true.
832
00:44:07,775 --> 00:44:08,776
Alright.
833
00:44:10,169 --> 00:44:11,953
I am prepared to continue.
834
00:44:12,824 --> 00:44:16,436
Provided we all understand
each other.
835
00:44:17,393 --> 00:44:18,394
Okay, great.
836
00:44:20,614 --> 00:44:21,702
So, what do we do now?
837
00:44:28,883 --> 00:44:32,365
Megan Parnell,
you have pleaded guilty to the charge of manslaughter,
838
00:44:32,844 --> 00:44:36,108
and admitted to causing
the death of your son, Ian Parnell,
839
00:44:36,456 --> 00:44:38,153
in a fire at your home.
840
00:44:39,154 --> 00:44:41,591
The seriousness
of this crime...
841
00:44:41,896 --> 00:44:46,379
leaves me no option
but to impose a custodial sentence.
842
00:44:48,555 --> 00:44:52,646
However,
given your previous good character,
843
00:44:53,299 --> 00:44:55,343
and your sadly mistaken belief
844
00:44:55,344 --> 00:44:59,131
that your son was already dead
when you started the fire,
845
00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:02,525
the court wishes
to show a degree of leniency.
846
00:45:04,527 --> 00:45:08,096
I hereby sentence you
to three years in prison,
847
00:45:09,315 --> 00:45:10,576
with the recommendation
848
00:45:10,577 --> 00:45:13,667
that you'd be fully
psychologically assessed
849
00:45:14,233 --> 00:45:16,322
prior to the commencement
of the sentence.
850
00:45:18,498 --> 00:45:20,065
You may take the prisoner down.
68572
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