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In the criminal justice system,
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the people are represented
by two separate,
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yet equally important groups.
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The police, who investigate
crime,
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and the Crown Prosecutors,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Police have been granted
a further 24 hours
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to interview Lennie Gaines,
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the father
of 10-year-old Jodie Gaines,
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who's been missing
for seven days.
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Jodie went missing last Friday
on her way
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to a music lesson
in Central London.
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Earlier this week,
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Lennie Gaines and
his ex-wife Kayleigh,
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made an emotional plea
for Jodie's safe return.
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If you saw Jodie...
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and you know where...
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where she is...
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Please...
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tell the police.
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She's our baby.
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And we need her home.
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We need her home now.
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Couple
of Latvian skip rats
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found her about three hours ago.
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They were after scrap metal.
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She was under that radiator.
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Time of death, about six
to ten hours ago.
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Cause, not obvious.
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She'd only been dead an hour
or so when they dumped her.
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There's abrasions on the palms
of her hands. Looks like glass.
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Is it her?
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Jodie had a scar
on her left arm.
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Any sign of her school bag
or mobile?
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- Nothing yet.
- Anything else for us?
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Couple of mothballs stuck
to the sheet.
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Who uses mothballs these days?
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Who tapes a kid's mouth shut,
and shoves them in a skip?
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I don't know...
but it wasn't her dad.
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Let's get him out of the cells
then, eh?
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We've told you
everything we know.
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Yeah, but it will just help us,
Mr Gaines.
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We just need to go over
your statements again.
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Routine, that's all.
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Forty-nine hours
I've been locked up.
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And all the time
she's been out there. Alive.
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Well, the other team,
you know, made a bad call.
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And I know it doesn't make it
any easier.
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But when a child goes missing,
presumed dead,
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we have to consider
every possibility.
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Even the fact that maybe the dad
did it.
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Not this.
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Not this dad.
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Just like to go over
Jodie's after-school routine,
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if that's okay.
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Just in case something
may have been missed.
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Guitar lesson, 4 p.m.
Poland Street.
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It's about a mile away
from the school.
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And how does she get there?
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Same cab firm. They're all
CRB checked.
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Look, Jodie knows
all the drivers.
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Been through this
a hundred times.
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Well, you don't think
she's a bit young
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to be taking cabs on her own?
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Well, cabs, you know.
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They're checked,
so they're safe, eh?
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She's usually back
ten minutes after me.
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I waited...
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and waited,
but she didn't come home.
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So, Jodie was staying with you, yeah?
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Jodie lived with me.
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The family courts
gave me custody.
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Right.
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I'll call Grebo.
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Grebo?
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Grebo Maul. The guitar teacher.
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Lovely. Thanks, Matt.
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But he said she never showed up,
but
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the school teacher said
she saw her get into the cab.
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Cause of death was suffocation.
Jodie had a stomach bug.
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Her mouth was taped shut.
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Vomit needed to go somewhere
and it did.
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It clogged up
her nasal passages.
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Jesus.
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So it could have been
accidental.
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Oh, accidentally tape
her mouth shut, did he?
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How are we gonna tell that
to the dad?
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Well, it's her mum
I'm worried about.
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Poor woman could barely speak.
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At least Jodie
wasn't sexually assaulted.
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That's got to be
some consolation.
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Although that could've been
the motive
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for the kidnapping though.
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They did pull over 50 splinters
of glass out of her hands.
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How did the glass get
in her hands?
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Well, could've been a scuffle,
glass could've smashed
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and she could've tried to crawl
over it.
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Any news on the sheet
she was wrapped up in?
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It was a 1950s vintage
top sheet.
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Part of a set,
but it could've come
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from any retro shop,
jumble sale--
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Or it could've been bought new
and just had over, I don't know,
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- half a century's worth of use.
- Yeah.
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Talk to the cabbie again.
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And to the guitar teacher.
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Like I told
the other cops, she didn't show.
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The thing is, Grebo--
can I call you Grebo?
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We have a witness that saw her
walk through your front door.
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I don't know what to say.
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You went through my flat.
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And don't think you won't get
a bill for the damages.
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I'll give you the number
of our complaints line.
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So Jodie comes to your place
week in week out
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for guitar lessons.
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When she doesn't show up,
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you don't think to call
her parents?
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I did the first time
she tried it.
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Her dad went mental.
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So what about the second
or the third time?
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Her dad kept her
on a tight leash.
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Look, if I thought
for one second
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Jodie was in trouble,
I'd have called her dad.
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I've been driving Jodie
over a year now. Sparky kid.
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Where exactly did you drop
Jodie?
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Outside Food City
on Poland Street.
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Her music teacher lives
above it.
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And you watched her
go in?
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Always do.
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The school recommends us
to parents.
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- It's part of the deal.
- And what route did you take?
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Shaftesbury Avenue,
Wardour Street,
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er, Broadwick Street,
then onto Poland Street.
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- Lads. All right.
- How you doing?
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Just a quick question.
How long you been working here?
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Best part of a week.
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And this diversion's been
in place the whole time?
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Yeah.
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Am I missing something?
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Right, our cabbie reckons
he drove down Broadwick Street
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and turned right
onto Poland Street.
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Maybe his cab's got wings.
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Okay, okay.
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Maybe I took Noel Street
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and turned left
into Poland Street.
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No, that's one-way.
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Then it must have been
D'Arblay Street.
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I don't know, Ronnie,
I thought these cabbies
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were meant to have a memory
for routes.
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You know what, Dom,
I sympathize with you,
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I really do.
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And I'll tell you for why.
Because when I was married
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to the first Mrs. Brooks
and I came home late,
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she would want to know
every single detail.
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And I used to struggle,
because, I've gotta be honest,
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half the time
I couldn't remember--
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What's it matter what road
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- I took?
- Hey, hey. It matters.
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Because we reckon
you took Jodie
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for a little detour.
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I dunno, maybe school uniforms
float your boat.
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You're sick. I've got four girls
of my own.
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So now you think you're a man
of honor
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because you won't touch
your own kids, but as long
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as they're not related,
then they're fair game.
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This is crazy.
I didn't do that.
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Now listen to me,
you've lied once--
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Dom!
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- Would you like a cup of tea?
- Yes.
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Yeah, me and all.
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What about you, Matt? Fancy
a cup of tea?
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Why don't you get us a cup
of tea?
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For the tape, DS Devlin
is leaving the room.
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Well.
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You know what, Dom?
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I think you're telling
the truth.
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But I also think you're leaving
something out.
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Some little detail
you're not telling us you know.
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A bit like when I used to tell
my wife I was working late
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and forgot to mention I'd spent
four hours in the Red Lion.
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What's the little detail?
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Traffic was hell.
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Jodie said she could walk it
faster.
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I...
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dropped her off
on Wardour Street.
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Corner of Broadwick.
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Promised her dad
I would never leave
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till she was inside.
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They ran his name
through the system.
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Not even a parking fine.
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Right. Do you want us
to let him go, then, Guv?
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Don't you dare.
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He's told one lie,
maybe there'll be more.
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For a start we've been watching
the wrong CCTV footage.
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Now he's changed his mind
about his route...
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different cameras
might come up trumps.
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Out she gets. Ronnie?
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- Got him.
- Nice one.
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A second after Jodie turns
into Broadwick Street.
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- Can you rewind that bit?
- For you, anything.
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So just after Jodie turns
into Broadwick Street...
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one of the residents
of the flats
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remembers seeing a white van
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hanging around the skip.
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Do you know how many white vans
there are in London?
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But not all of them have
got racks on the side.
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It's a glazier's van.
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And Jodie was found
with glass splinters
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in her hands.
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Which could've come
from the back of that van.
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They're all side shots.
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Driver's in profile
for maybe one frame.
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- IC one. IC two maybe.
- What about the van?
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Congestion Zone cameras
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must've got
the registration number.
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Oh yeah, they got a beauty
of the mud obscuring it.
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What about
the lettering on the side,
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behind the rack?
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Well, I mean,
the logo's all faded
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and the angle
the sunlight's hitting the glass
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means you can't make out
a thing.
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So basically
we're back to square one, Guv.
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Is that a window?
It's not standard.
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Can't be many that shape around.
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That... is a modern take
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on the 19th century arch window, apparently.
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Well, that's very good,
but does he have any idea
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what sort of building
it comes from?
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Well, I reckon we've been there
a few times.
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Nope you've lost me.
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That is a window
from the south block
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of the Old Bailey.
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That's right. We did
the Old Bailey job last week.
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- Wasn't easy matching it up.
- Is this one of yours?
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What's this all about?
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We asked first,
Mr Andreou.
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Yeah, it looks like one
of my vans.
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What was it? Hit and run?
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We think the driver
may have witnessed a crime.
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Well, look, I've got
over 30 fitters.
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I'd need to check the files.
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Leave me a number
and I'll get back to you.
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Have you been sober long?
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Pardon?
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"To thine own self be true"
That's what mine says.
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How long?
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Three hundred
and ninety-two days.
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That's good.
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We need this information now,
Mr Andreou.
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You know the Grovewood
Rehab Clinic, do ya?
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Well, I read the brochure
in between pints.
251
00:13:01,824 --> 00:13:02,869
Yeah, Christos.
252
00:13:04,174 --> 00:13:05,915
Who fitted the window
on the Old Bailey job?
253
00:13:06,916 --> 00:13:07,830
Cheers.
254
00:13:09,005 --> 00:13:10,179
Nick Carlton.
255
00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:11,486
Lives in Kennington.
He's out on a job.
256
00:13:14,097 --> 00:13:15,359
Don't tell my boss, right?
257
00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:17,144
I was moonlighting.
258
00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:19,580
You got the address?
259
00:13:19,581 --> 00:13:21,974
Must have chucked it out.
The job wasn't worth my while.
260
00:13:21,975 --> 00:13:23,366
What about
a client's name?
261
00:13:23,367 --> 00:13:25,020
I ain't got a memory
for names me.
262
00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:27,458
That's a shame What did you do
after that?
263
00:13:28,285 --> 00:13:30,156
Er, big job. Belgravia.
264
00:13:30,157 --> 00:13:32,332
Traffic was mental by the time
I got there it was after six.
265
00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:34,465
So I packed it in, headed
for the Westminster Bridge.
266
00:13:35,379 --> 00:13:36,597
What-- to Kennington?
267
00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:38,120
Surely Vauxhall Bridge
would be quicker?
268
00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:39,993
My mum lives in Deptford.
Went round for dinner.
269
00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:41,821
Who else was there?
270
00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:43,561
Just Mum.
271
00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:47,957
And what time did the party
finish at your mum's?
272
00:13:48,566 --> 00:13:50,917
I dunno. I watched the footie
and left.
273
00:13:52,179 --> 00:13:53,528
And your mum will vouch
that you were there?
274
00:13:53,876 --> 00:13:55,529
She don't need to. Speed cameras
will do that.
275
00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:56,574
I got done on the way there.
276
00:13:58,054 --> 00:13:59,055
Eighty quid and three points.
I was only going forty.
277
00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:03,624
No, Nick Carlton
is habitual.
278
00:14:03,625 --> 00:14:04,930
He started off with a tour
279
00:14:04,931 --> 00:14:06,584
of Young Offenders Institutions
at 15,
280
00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:08,281
he graduated with the big boys.
281
00:14:08,282 --> 00:14:10,283
You name a nick
that he hasn't been in.
282
00:14:10,284 --> 00:14:11,981
- What did he do?
- What didn't he do?
283
00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:14,592
Burglary, GBH, hit and run,
284
00:14:14,984 --> 00:14:16,638
one rape charge
that never made it to court,
285
00:14:16,943 --> 00:14:19,119
one that got him eight years,
he served four.
286
00:14:19,336 --> 00:14:21,120
The youngest victim was 20.
287
00:14:21,121 --> 00:14:23,426
Killing little girls though,
that's-- that's a big leap.
288
00:14:23,427 --> 00:14:25,559
He has been out six years,
and nothing.
289
00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,169
Well, maybe prison did him
some good.
290
00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:28,606
Or taught him
how not to get caught.
291
00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:30,477
Did you confirm
that speed camera?
292
00:14:30,478 --> 00:14:31,566
Going 40 in a 30.
293
00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:33,654
Doesn't mean
he didn't have a dead girl
294
00:14:33,655 --> 00:14:34,916
in the back of his van.
295
00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:35,656
And he goes straight
on to his mum's house
296
00:14:35,657 --> 00:14:37,180
for a plate of spag bol?
297
00:14:37,441 --> 00:14:39,355
- Man's got to eat.
- He's got history,
298
00:14:39,356 --> 00:14:41,053
and he was at the scene
of the kidnapping.
299
00:14:41,054 --> 00:14:43,404
- I want you to search his van.
- Yeah.
300
00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:48,452
We went through the van
with a fine-tooth comb.
301
00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:51,325
And I checked the material
under the microscope.
302
00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:55,111
- No fibers, no hair.
- What? Nothing?
303
00:14:56,243 --> 00:14:57,940
Apart from bad taste in music.
304
00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:00,768
Well, go through it again.
305
00:15:00,769 --> 00:15:02,379
Look, if it was there,
I'd have found it.
306
00:15:02,597 --> 00:15:04,076
Actually,
that makes sense,
307
00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:05,077
Matt, because...
308
00:15:05,078 --> 00:15:06,687
- Thanks.
- Yeah.
309
00:15:06,688 --> 00:15:08,297
Nick Carlton has been there
and back and brought the T-Shirt
310
00:15:08,298 --> 00:15:09,690
with the old hit and run caper,
wouldn't he?
311
00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:11,257
So the first thing he's gonna do
312
00:15:11,258 --> 00:15:12,694
is book his vehicle
in for a valet.
313
00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:14,652
But Jodie had glass
in her hands.
314
00:15:14,957 --> 00:15:16,088
There must have been
blood there.
315
00:15:16,089 --> 00:15:18,177
They were just abrasions
on her hands
316
00:15:18,178 --> 00:15:19,483
with glass splinters embedded.
317
00:15:20,136 --> 00:15:21,485
No actual blood, I'm afraid.
318
00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,096
Look, we've sent the glass
off for analysis.
319
00:15:24,097 --> 00:15:25,446
I've said it's a priority.
320
00:15:26,273 --> 00:15:27,274
Oh, great.
321
00:15:29,537 --> 00:15:30,712
- Cheers, Teddy.
- Thanks.
322
00:15:30,973 --> 00:15:31,669
So, what now?
323
00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:34,324
Right. Well, let's check
his alibi. Talk to his mum.
324
00:15:36,457 --> 00:15:38,198
I made roast pork.
325
00:15:38,633 --> 00:15:40,026
It's Nicky's favorite.
326
00:15:40,287 --> 00:15:41,635
You know what I love,
Mrs. Carlton?
327
00:15:41,636 --> 00:15:43,029
Roast pork sandwiches.
328
00:15:43,638 --> 00:15:45,291
Thick white bread, butter,
you know,
329
00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,294
bit of apple sauce, pepper.
Beautiful.
330
00:15:48,382 --> 00:15:49,687
What about your Nicky,
did he make himself
331
00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:51,340
a sandwich before he went
on the road?
332
00:15:51,341 --> 00:15:53,126
I don't know. I went to bed.
333
00:15:54,127 --> 00:15:56,433
- At what time?
- After the news.
334
00:15:57,565 --> 00:16:00,220
Which do you prefer, BBC London,
or London Tonight?
335
00:16:00,611 --> 00:16:02,657
They've all got
the same bad news.
336
00:16:04,137 --> 00:16:05,702
I bet the Hammers
look good on that, don't they?
337
00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:07,488
Nicky gave it me
for Christmas.
338
00:16:08,663 --> 00:16:10,056
To watch Chelsea.
339
00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:13,146
Oh, Ronnie?
340
00:16:15,452 --> 00:16:16,366
Well, well.
341
00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:20,239
We was only talking about them
the other day.
342
00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,632
Mattie was asking me
who uses mothballs nowadays.
343
00:16:22,633 --> 00:16:24,331
You get
infestations.
344
00:16:24,722 --> 00:16:27,595
Kept finding
the little blighters all over.
345
00:16:28,161 --> 00:16:30,250
Coming in through
my airing cupboard.
346
00:16:31,164 --> 00:16:32,513
Mind if we have a look?
347
00:16:33,209 --> 00:16:34,428
You already have.
348
00:16:39,563 --> 00:16:41,174
My old mum had a set
of them.
349
00:16:42,218 --> 00:16:44,177
What's that, two pillowcases
and a bottom sheet?
350
00:16:46,048 --> 00:16:47,397
Top sheet would make the set.
351
00:16:57,364 --> 00:16:58,538
Not gonna be
a silly boy
352
00:16:58,539 --> 00:17:00,149
and try and do a runner,
are you?
353
00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:02,369
No, you're an old hand
at this.
354
00:17:02,543 --> 00:17:03,587
Nicholas Carlton...
355
00:17:04,545 --> 00:17:05,762
I'm arresting you on suspicion
356
00:17:05,763 --> 00:17:08,288
of the kidnap and murder
of Jodie Gaines.
357
00:17:08,549 --> 00:17:10,550
Maybe you'd seen little Jodie
before
358
00:17:10,551 --> 00:17:13,032
- and picked her out especially.
- No comment.
359
00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:14,554
Look, Nick,
the only thing
360
00:17:14,555 --> 00:17:15,730
that's gonna help you now...
361
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,601
is if you tell us
exactly what happened.
362
00:17:18,602 --> 00:17:19,560
Just...
363
00:17:20,778 --> 00:17:22,518
say how sorry
you are for killing Jodie.
364
00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,346
- No comment.
- It's your best chance
365
00:17:24,347 --> 00:17:26,045
of avoiding life without parole.
366
00:17:26,349 --> 00:17:27,350
He's right.
367
00:17:28,090 --> 00:17:29,831
If you didn't mean
to kill her...
368
00:17:30,397 --> 00:17:32,051
and it was, say, an accident...
369
00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:34,443
it's a whole other
prison sentence
370
00:17:34,444 --> 00:17:36,098
between manslaughter and murder.
371
00:17:36,751 --> 00:17:38,709
So, was it an accident?
372
00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:42,061
No comment.
373
00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:44,627
Judge gives him life
without parole,
374
00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:45,673
I wanna be there.
375
00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:47,501
I wanna see the whites
of his eyes.
376
00:17:48,197 --> 00:17:50,198
The glass splinters found
in Jodie's hands
377
00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:51,634
are an exact match
378
00:17:51,635 --> 00:17:53,768
with the glass found
in the back of Carlton's van.
379
00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:57,424
Let's charge him.
380
00:18:04,692 --> 00:18:06,258
The defendant has
a catalog
381
00:18:06,259 --> 00:18:08,435
of previous convictions.
Many of them violent.
382
00:18:08,609 --> 00:18:11,263
The Crown believes he poses
a risk to children.
383
00:18:11,264 --> 00:18:13,309
There is no suggestion
that Mr Carlton
384
00:18:13,657 --> 00:18:16,356
has ever committed any offences
against children.
385
00:18:16,791 --> 00:18:19,663
His last conviction
is ten years old.
386
00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:22,188
And, my Lord...
387
00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:25,843
he is the sole carer
for his elderly mother.
388
00:18:34,635 --> 00:18:36,898
I am reluctantly granting bail
389
00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:39,422
on the following
strict conditions.
390
00:18:39,901 --> 00:18:43,122
Residence at his mother's
address in Deptford.
391
00:18:43,861 --> 00:18:47,648
An electronic tag and curfew
between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.
392
00:18:47,865 --> 00:18:50,651
And twice daily reporting
to Deptford Police Station.
393
00:19:09,409 --> 00:19:10,887
They bailed
the bastard.
394
00:19:10,888 --> 00:19:13,281
Lennie, I am so sorry.
We will get him at the trial.
395
00:19:13,282 --> 00:19:15,328
Will you? You said
he wouldn't get bail.
396
00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:23,162
- Kayleigh.
- No, you stay here.
397
00:19:23,597 --> 00:19:25,512
- Kayleigh.
- Kayleigh.
398
00:19:36,523 --> 00:19:37,698
You get back...
399
00:19:50,624 --> 00:19:54,671
- Get an ambulance, somebody.
- CID, excuse me.
400
00:19:55,672 --> 00:19:57,717
What's going on? Wait,
you're bleeding.
401
00:19:57,718 --> 00:19:59,372
No, I'm okay. I'm okay.
402
00:20:02,723 --> 00:20:04,420
- Matt.
- Kayleigh.
403
00:20:32,274 --> 00:20:34,537
- He killed Jodie.
- Shut up, Kayleigh.
404
00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:39,585
Just wait for your brief
to get here yeah.
405
00:20:39,586 --> 00:20:40,890
I'm so sorry.
406
00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:43,024
Mrs. Gaines, please just listen
to him, okay?
407
00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:55,950
He's dead.
408
00:20:57,473 --> 00:20:58,561
Nick Carlton's dead.
409
00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:12,488
Mrs. Gaines...
410
00:21:14,577 --> 00:21:17,363
I am arresting you on the murder
of Nicholas Carlton.
411
00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:18,842
You do not have
to say anything...
412
00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:21,931
- Are you serious?
- ...but it may harm
413
00:21:21,932 --> 00:21:23,629
your defense if you
do not mention when questioned
414
00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,501
something that you later rely
on in court.
415
00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:27,460
Anything you do say...
416
00:21:28,374 --> 00:21:29,549
may be given in evidence.
417
00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:35,816
He killed my little girl.
418
00:21:52,833 --> 00:21:54,313
How the hell
did this happen?
419
00:21:54,835 --> 00:21:56,315
It was over in a flash.
420
00:21:56,706 --> 00:21:58,317
Where were
the Family Liaison Officers?
421
00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:01,102
No-one knew that she'd react
like that.
422
00:22:01,494 --> 00:22:03,495
We can't have every victim
of crime
423
00:22:03,496 --> 00:22:04,974
taking the law
into their own hands.
424
00:22:04,975 --> 00:22:07,847
With every van banger
in the country cheering them on.
425
00:22:07,848 --> 00:22:09,849
They're saying that she deserves
an OBE.
426
00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:11,068
Well, it doesn't take
much effort
427
00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:12,548
to put yourself in her shoes.
428
00:22:12,679 --> 00:22:15,812
Yeah, maybe not,
but it can't justify murder.
429
00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:19,338
You wanna try her for murder?
430
00:22:20,687 --> 00:22:21,688
Of course.
431
00:22:23,124 --> 00:22:25,517
What if the next grieving mum
gets herself a gun?
432
00:22:25,518 --> 00:22:26,692
But any jury will see
433
00:22:26,693 --> 00:22:27,997
that she's out of her mind
with grief.
434
00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:30,913
No, no, no, she took a knife
to the Old Bailey.
435
00:22:30,914 --> 00:22:32,045
The whole thing was caught
on camera.
436
00:22:32,046 --> 00:22:33,089
Even so--
437
00:22:33,090 --> 00:22:34,526
Look, we're backed
into a corner.
438
00:22:34,527 --> 00:22:37,050
I know it's tough,
but we have to prosecute.
439
00:22:37,051 --> 00:22:38,704
Except your jury will be wishing
440
00:22:38,705 --> 00:22:40,359
that they'd stabbed him
themselves.
441
00:22:43,884 --> 00:22:45,929
I don't want a big messy trial.
442
00:22:47,801 --> 00:22:48,889
Talk to the barrister.
443
00:22:49,629 --> 00:22:50,543
Make a deal.
444
00:22:51,848 --> 00:22:52,936
My client won't serve
a day for this.
445
00:22:53,546 --> 00:22:55,374
Murder has a minimum tariff,
Bea.
446
00:22:55,765 --> 00:22:57,592
Even you can't magic that away.
447
00:22:57,593 --> 00:22:58,941
Yeah, well, as soon as the jury
448
00:22:58,942 --> 00:23:00,552
get a look
at Nick Carlton's record
449
00:23:00,553 --> 00:23:02,685
they'll be lining up to shake
Kayleigh's hand.
450
00:23:03,556 --> 00:23:05,905
If they ignore the fact that she
stuck a knife in his chest.
451
00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:09,561
The only fact that matters
is that Jodie Gaines is dead
452
00:23:09,562 --> 00:23:11,171
because the criminal justice
system failed
453
00:23:11,172 --> 00:23:12,999
to put scum like Nick Carlton
behind bars.
454
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,480
Now thanks to Kayleigh Gaines,
455
00:23:14,741 --> 00:23:16,830
Mr Carlton's crime spree
is over.
456
00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:19,746
- For good.
- It wasn't up to her to end it.
457
00:23:31,671 --> 00:23:33,149
I'm so sorry.
458
00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:34,629
Please, would you leave
the talking to me Mrs. Gaines?
459
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:36,719
All I could see
in my head was Jodie,
460
00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:39,766
- dumped in that skip.
- Please, Mrs. Gaines.
461
00:23:40,723 --> 00:23:43,204
I kept thinking about her
last minutes alive.
462
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:45,989
- Where he kept her.
- Please.
463
00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:47,948
What he done to her.
464
00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:52,866
How scared she must have been.
465
00:23:55,782 --> 00:23:58,045
I understand why you did it.
466
00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:00,612
- But you killed a man.
- Yeah he was--
467
00:24:00,613 --> 00:24:01,962
- We can't just--
- he was a monster.
468
00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:06,183
If he killed
your little girl...
469
00:24:08,621 --> 00:24:10,144
tell me you wouldn't feel
the same.
470
00:24:17,543 --> 00:24:18,544
I'm sorry.
471
00:24:19,501 --> 00:24:20,807
We're charging murder.
472
00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:27,160
You know, I've always found
473
00:24:27,161 --> 00:24:29,990
your inflexibility
truly irritating, James.
474
00:24:30,251 --> 00:24:31,731
Then please don't let me
keep you.
475
00:24:31,905 --> 00:24:34,560
Manslaughter provocation,
have we got ourselves a deal?
476
00:24:34,908 --> 00:24:36,910
This was a straight up
revenge killing, Bea.
477
00:24:37,171 --> 00:24:39,652
- You know it.
- You think she wasn't provoked?
478
00:24:40,217 --> 00:24:42,610
He kidnapped and murdered
her only child.
479
00:24:42,611 --> 00:24:44,003
No, that hadn't been proved.
480
00:24:44,004 --> 00:24:45,744
Nick Carlton died
an innocent man.
481
00:24:45,745 --> 00:24:47,659
Well, why don't you tell that
to the jury?
482
00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:50,184
We are on the side
of the angels, James.
483
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:52,707
You force murder trial
and you're the one
484
00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:54,275
who's gonna end up with egg
on his face.
485
00:25:01,935 --> 00:25:03,239
You shouldn't let her
get to you.
486
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,851
- I don't.
- Really?
487
00:25:05,025 --> 00:25:08,071
- George said to make a deal.
- Kayleigh Gaines should do time.
488
00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:10,595
Manslaughter provocation carries
a custodial.
489
00:25:10,596 --> 00:25:11,987
She could get 12 years.
490
00:25:11,988 --> 00:25:13,772
- Or as little as 12 months.
- Isn't that enough?
491
00:25:13,773 --> 00:25:15,338
She lost a child, James.
492
00:25:15,339 --> 00:25:16,949
It doesn't change the fact
that she killed Nick Carlton.
493
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,081
- What if he was innocent?
- She believed he was guilty.
494
00:25:19,082 --> 00:25:20,648
Totally irrelevant.
Kayleigh Gaines
495
00:25:20,649 --> 00:25:22,737
will get a fair trial,
the chance of rehabilitation.
496
00:25:22,738 --> 00:25:24,174
Nick Carlton deserved the same.
497
00:25:24,871 --> 00:25:27,526
All I'm asking is that we show
a little mercy.
498
00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:32,879
It isn't up to us to show mercy,
Alesha.
499
00:25:34,054 --> 00:25:35,098
So, what do we do?
500
00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:39,146
We do what she should have done.
We let a jury decide.
501
00:25:41,931 --> 00:25:44,064
Did you see the tabloids
this morning?
502
00:25:45,108 --> 00:25:46,631
They're giving out
pull out posters
503
00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:47,981
to put in your window.
504
00:25:49,199 --> 00:25:50,244
"Kayleigh's our hero."
505
00:25:51,506 --> 00:25:52,899
Yeah, I can undress myself.
Thank you, Bea.
506
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,684
You'll never win.
507
00:25:56,250 --> 00:25:57,904
The whole nation's on her side.
508
00:25:58,818 --> 00:26:00,035
I'll take my chances.
509
00:26:00,036 --> 00:26:02,081
It's not too late,
you know.
510
00:26:02,082 --> 00:26:04,083
You just say
those two little words
511
00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:06,695
and the trial just disappears
just like that.
512
00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:10,307
Manslaughter provocation.
513
00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:14,921
The charge is murder.
514
00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:16,575
Oh, come on.
515
00:26:17,837 --> 00:26:19,665
What's a little provocation
between friends?
516
00:26:22,972 --> 00:26:24,060
Gloves off, then.
517
00:26:27,107 --> 00:26:28,761
Nick was my only child.
518
00:26:29,936 --> 00:26:33,330
After my husband passed away,
Nick looked after me.
519
00:26:34,114 --> 00:26:36,943
Your son had convictions
for violence, didn't he?
520
00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:39,685
I never said
he was a saint.
521
00:26:40,294 --> 00:26:42,904
If he had anything to do
with that little girl's death,
522
00:26:42,905 --> 00:26:45,255
then he should've gone
to prison, no question.
523
00:26:46,822 --> 00:26:48,215
I could've lived with that.
524
00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:51,305
But this...
525
00:26:54,656 --> 00:26:57,049
who gave you the right
to play God?
526
00:26:57,050 --> 00:27:00,096
Mrs. Carlton, just answer
Counsel's questions, please.
527
00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:05,928
Her little girl's dead,
and I'm sorry.
528
00:27:09,149 --> 00:27:11,717
But who was she to kill my son?
529
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,333
He was my baby.
530
00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:24,729
After your divorce,
531
00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:27,733
the family court gave
you custody of Jodie.
532
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:30,126
They said Kayleigh was unfit.
533
00:27:31,171 --> 00:27:32,128
Why was that?
534
00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:34,087
When she had Jodie...
535
00:27:34,391 --> 00:27:36,350
the anesthetist botched
the epidural.
536
00:27:38,352 --> 00:27:40,093
Messed up a nerve in her back.
537
00:27:41,747 --> 00:27:43,052
GP gave her painkillers.
538
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,795
But Kayleigh had a problem
getting off them.
539
00:27:47,230 --> 00:27:50,146
Is it right Kayleigh was born
addicted to crack cocaine?
540
00:27:52,105 --> 00:27:53,019
Yeah.
541
00:27:54,498 --> 00:27:55,977
And we heard
from our expert witness earlier
542
00:27:55,978 --> 00:27:58,763
that crack babies have
a predisposition to addictions.
543
00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:00,199
So it must have been no surprise
544
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,377
when Kayleigh became addicted
to the painkillers.
545
00:28:04,030 --> 00:28:05,466
She was addicted within weeks.
546
00:28:08,208 --> 00:28:09,470
But she got off 'em.
547
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,908
After her recovery,
what sort of mother was she?
548
00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:16,216
Good one.
549
00:28:19,959 --> 00:28:20,873
Loving one.
550
00:28:23,049 --> 00:28:24,267
No further questions.
551
00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:32,841
Having gained custody of Jodie
seven years ago...
552
00:28:33,886 --> 00:28:36,236
you've been her sole carer,
haven't you?
553
00:28:36,802 --> 00:28:38,151
- That's right.
- So surely...
554
00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:42,851
you're the one who must feel
the loss of Jodie most acutely.
555
00:28:43,417 --> 00:28:45,245
You're the one who must feel
most...
556
00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:47,900
provoked.
557
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:51,904
- Yeah, I suppose so.
- And yet...
558
00:28:52,774 --> 00:28:54,907
you didn't feel like killing
Mr Carlton.
559
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,737
I'm not a violent man.
560
00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:01,260
I couldn't do something
like that.
561
00:29:01,261 --> 00:29:02,305
No, you couldn't.
562
00:29:03,916 --> 00:29:06,395
Provoked or not, no normal,
decent person could, could they?
563
00:29:06,396 --> 00:29:09,443
Is my learned friend
making a speech already, M'Lord?
564
00:29:09,791 --> 00:29:13,186
Mr Steel, plenty of time
for speeches later.
565
00:29:23,805 --> 00:29:27,460
On count one,
the murder of Nicholas Carlton,
566
00:29:27,461 --> 00:29:30,507
do you find the defendant
guilty or not guilty?
567
00:29:31,813 --> 00:29:32,771
Not guilty.
568
00:29:34,033 --> 00:29:35,034
On count two...
569
00:29:36,209 --> 00:29:38,298
the manslaughter
of Nicholas Carlton,
570
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,344
do you find the defendant
guilty or not guilty?
571
00:29:44,260 --> 00:29:45,174
Guilty.
572
00:29:57,143 --> 00:29:59,145
A man lost
his life.
573
00:30:00,494 --> 00:30:02,496
He may indeed
have been responsible
574
00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:04,498
for the death
of Mrs. Gaines' daughter.
575
00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:07,587
But it is not one person's right
576
00:30:07,588 --> 00:30:09,416
to end the life of another.
577
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:14,595
This offence is clearly
so serious...
578
00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:16,945
only custody is appropriate.
579
00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,515
The sentence I pass is one
of 12 months in prison.
580
00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:28,261
Mrs. Gaines.
581
00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:32,264
No doubt the real punishment
for you
582
00:30:32,265 --> 00:30:34,267
is to bear the loss
of your daughter.
583
00:30:37,183 --> 00:30:38,575
You have my deepest sympathy.
584
00:30:41,578 --> 00:30:44,146
The sentence is wholly suspended
for two years.
585
00:31:02,077 --> 00:31:03,599
He might as well have
congratulated her
586
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,037
on hitting a major artery.
587
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:08,039
Does that judge have
any idea what he did in there?
588
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,432
We go through all this,
and for what?
589
00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:11,607
To hand
a get-out-of-jail-free card
590
00:31:11,608 --> 00:31:14,220
to every knife-wielding maniac
who cries provocation?
591
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,961
Maybe not.
592
00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:19,965
Alesha.
593
00:31:21,096 --> 00:31:22,749
Just to let you know.
We found out,
594
00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:25,579
uh, Kayleigh Gaines was treated
for heroin addiction last year.
595
00:31:26,232 --> 00:31:27,580
Well, maybe she went
one step further
596
00:31:27,581 --> 00:31:29,364
when the GP called time
on her pain killers.
597
00:31:29,365 --> 00:31:30,931
Maybe,
but it's not the what,
598
00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:33,368
it's the where. And it was
at the Grovewood rehab Clinic.
599
00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:34,588
So she went to Grovewood.
600
00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:37,069
The trial's over.
What does it matter?
601
00:31:37,591 --> 00:31:39,070
Well, she had company.
602
00:31:39,071 --> 00:31:40,637
Nick Carlton's boss,
Farris Andreou,
603
00:31:40,942 --> 00:31:42,465
also dried out at the Grovewood.
604
00:31:46,426 --> 00:31:48,645
Kayleigh Gaines
and Farris Andreou
605
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:50,996
both went through rehab
last year.
606
00:31:51,997 --> 00:31:53,389
Kayleigh was NHS funded.
607
00:31:54,129 --> 00:31:55,434
So Farris Andreou knew
608
00:31:55,435 --> 00:31:56,915
that Kayleigh Gaines
had a daughter.
609
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:59,307
Whatever he knew
about her personal life
610
00:31:59,308 --> 00:32:01,136
didn't need to come
from the sessions.
611
00:32:01,615 --> 00:32:02,616
They had an affair.
612
00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:05,097
They broke a cardinal rule.
613
00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:07,229
We asked them to leave.
614
00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:11,930
She had to know Andreou
was Nick Carlton's boss.
615
00:32:13,409 --> 00:32:15,063
Do you think all three of them
were involved?
616
00:32:16,151 --> 00:32:17,674
Be a hell of a coincidence
if they weren't.
617
00:32:18,458 --> 00:32:19,546
Why else hide it?
618
00:32:23,071 --> 00:32:25,116
The Italian doctor had the hots
for me.
619
00:32:25,117 --> 00:32:26,639
I knocked her back.
She got it in her head
620
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,684
I was getting
it on with Kayleigh.
621
00:32:29,077 --> 00:32:30,122
Who you forgot
to mention that you knew.
622
00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:32,211
We know you've been inside.
623
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,040
Yeah, for tax evasion,
like white collar stuff.
624
00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:37,171
And is that where you met
625
00:32:37,172 --> 00:32:38,781
Nick Carlton? When you was
in prison?
626
00:32:38,782 --> 00:32:40,522
We were pad mates,
till he pissed the screws off
627
00:32:40,523 --> 00:32:41,742
and got ghosted
out to Ashbridge.
628
00:32:42,003 --> 00:32:43,177
And after that, what?
629
00:32:43,178 --> 00:32:44,787
You became pen pals then,
did you?
630
00:32:44,788 --> 00:32:46,093
He came knocking
on my door looking for a job,
631
00:32:46,094 --> 00:32:47,790
I felt sorry for him.
632
00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:50,490
And you often employ
convicted rapists, do you?
633
00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:52,971
What are you talking about?
634
00:32:54,233 --> 00:32:55,190
The young woman
Nick Carlton raped.
635
00:32:56,757 --> 00:32:58,150
She woke up and found him
sitting on the end of her bed.
636
00:32:58,367 --> 00:32:59,281
No.
637
00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:02,154
- He wouldn't.
- He did.
638
00:33:03,024 --> 00:33:04,156
He tied her up.
639
00:33:04,417 --> 00:33:05,678
He gagged her,
would you believe,
640
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:07,158
just to stop her screaming
641
00:33:07,159 --> 00:33:08,769
so her flat mates wouldn't hear
and then he raped her.
642
00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,295
Carlton was in for fraud.
643
00:33:14,296 --> 00:33:16,123
He swindled
some insurance company.
644
00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:17,385
Well, if you bought that story,
645
00:33:17,386 --> 00:33:19,431
the only bum being swindled,
Farris, was you.
646
00:33:19,432 --> 00:33:21,389
He'd've been on the rule,
wouldn't he, the nonces wing?
647
00:33:21,390 --> 00:33:23,001
Well,
maybe he had friends.
648
00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:25,611
Friends like you, just turn
a blind eye.
649
00:33:25,612 --> 00:33:28,483
No, you have to believe me. I--
if I'd known he raped anyone,
650
00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:30,529
I wouldn't have given him
the time of day let alone a job.
651
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:32,183
You're facing quite
a few charges here, Farris.
652
00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:33,575
Look, I didn't know he was
a nonce,
653
00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:35,055
- you've gotta believe me.
- There's kidnap,
654
00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:37,493
conspiracy to murder, perverting
the course of justice.
655
00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:42,584
"To thine own self be true,
656
00:33:42,585 --> 00:33:45,632
and it must follow,
as the night, the day...
657
00:33:47,329 --> 00:33:50,332
thou canst not then be false
to any man."
658
00:33:52,073 --> 00:33:53,291
I mean that quote from Hamlet
659
00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:54,380
gets us through another day,
doesn't it?
660
00:33:55,816 --> 00:33:58,036
We be honest with ourselves,
and we can stay sober.
661
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,170
Gotta be honest with others too.
Haven't you, Farris?
662
00:34:04,085 --> 00:34:05,565
Only then are we truly healed.
663
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,569
So... what have you
and Kayleigh Gaines
664
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:11,832
been hiding from us?
665
00:34:17,707 --> 00:34:18,708
I owed her.
666
00:34:21,537 --> 00:34:23,235
They kicked her out of rehab
because of me.
667
00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:28,718
But I only gave her
Nick Carlton's phone number.
668
00:34:29,415 --> 00:34:31,852
I swear to God,
that is all I did.
669
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,245
Okay, for the tape,
670
00:34:34,246 --> 00:34:36,812
Farris Andreou, who did you give
671
00:34:36,813 --> 00:34:38,424
Nick Carlton's telephone number
to?
672
00:34:42,732 --> 00:34:43,646
Kayleigh.
673
00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:46,562
It was all Kayleigh.
674
00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:49,782
She said she wanted
Nick Carlton
675
00:34:49,783 --> 00:34:51,393
to do something for her.
676
00:34:53,134 --> 00:34:56,094
Could she have hired Carlton
to snatch Jodie?
677
00:34:57,138 --> 00:34:58,096
Why would she?
678
00:34:59,445 --> 00:35:00,794
Kayleigh... be straight
with us.
679
00:35:01,664 --> 00:35:02,622
Me and Farris?
680
00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:07,366
It was just a fling.
681
00:35:08,367 --> 00:35:11,631
He reckons you and Nick Carlton
were in it together.
682
00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:13,676
What?
683
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,636
Why-- why would he say that?
684
00:35:19,334 --> 00:35:20,292
He's lying.
685
00:35:24,687 --> 00:35:26,515
Why is he doing this to me?
686
00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:28,299
Farris reckons
that you were trying
687
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,475
to get back at Lennie...
688
00:35:30,476 --> 00:35:32,304
'cause he wouldn't let you see
Jodie.
689
00:35:32,565 --> 00:35:33,566
We get on.
690
00:35:34,349 --> 00:35:36,482
- Me and Lennie--
- Kayleigh.
691
00:35:39,224 --> 00:35:40,573
How can you even think...
692
00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:46,840
What mum...
693
00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:50,191
could do that to her own kid?
694
00:35:51,714 --> 00:35:53,325
Do you think she's telling
the truth?
695
00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:57,894
What do you think?
Could it be an act?
696
00:36:00,245 --> 00:36:01,681
Honestly, I don't know.
697
00:36:03,248 --> 00:36:04,379
So, what now?
698
00:36:05,685 --> 00:36:06,946
You wanna know
if someone's telling the truth,
699
00:36:06,947 --> 00:36:09,167
you talk to the person
who knows them best.
700
00:36:11,952 --> 00:36:14,607
Do you... really think...
701
00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:16,870
Kayleigh did this?
702
00:36:21,353 --> 00:36:22,354
I'm sorry.
703
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,270
I can't take this in.
704
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,186
At the trial...
705
00:36:29,578 --> 00:36:31,537
you swore she was a good mother.
706
00:36:35,541 --> 00:36:36,846
She was hurting enough.
707
00:36:39,371 --> 00:36:41,590
Just said what her barrister
told me to say.
708
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:46,856
What didn't you say, Lennie?
709
00:36:49,337 --> 00:36:50,382
There was this time...
710
00:36:51,774 --> 00:36:54,212
she was late bringing
Jodie back. 12 hours late.
711
00:36:54,734 --> 00:36:56,910
Kayleigh had taken her down
to Hastings.
712
00:36:57,302 --> 00:37:00,566
Locked her up in some hole
of a B&B and gone off to...
713
00:37:03,482 --> 00:37:04,396
to score.
714
00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:09,270
- She was using again.
- Jodie was terrified.
715
00:37:09,923 --> 00:37:12,621
She said it was like Mummy
was asleep with her eyes open.
716
00:37:13,535 --> 00:37:14,797
So I stopped the visits.
717
00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:19,367
You should have told the police.
718
00:37:20,499 --> 00:37:21,413
I know.
719
00:37:26,026 --> 00:37:29,247
Please, God, tell me
she's not involved.
720
00:37:29,595 --> 00:37:31,379
Now I saw these interviews.
721
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,339
The appeal. She was shaking
with grief.
722
00:37:34,991 --> 00:37:36,645
It wasn't grief.
723
00:37:37,516 --> 00:37:38,517
It was withdrawal.
724
00:37:40,127 --> 00:37:41,910
But why would she stop using
just when she needed it most?
725
00:37:41,911 --> 00:37:43,477
The stress must have been
enormous.
726
00:37:43,478 --> 00:37:44,697
She wouldn't have
any choice.
727
00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:47,047
The minute Jodie
was reported missing,
728
00:37:47,308 --> 00:37:50,050
she had Family Liaison Officers
with her day and night.
729
00:37:50,355 --> 00:37:51,833
Oh, why didn't we see it?
730
00:37:51,834 --> 00:37:54,619
The thing about addicts
is they make very good liars.
731
00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:56,447
So the police knew
it was someone close.
732
00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:58,928
- They just got the wrong parent.
- The question is, why?
733
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:01,974
What could possibly drive her
734
00:38:01,975 --> 00:38:03,803
to have her own daughter
kidnapped?
735
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:04,934
Kayleigh.
736
00:38:08,634 --> 00:38:11,027
That mobile phone was found
in your flat.
737
00:38:11,376 --> 00:38:13,987
Hidden inside
a resealed milk carton.
738
00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:16,815
The phone is registered
to a Mrs. Gemma Miller.
739
00:38:16,816 --> 00:38:18,730
Now we've been in touch
with Mrs. Miller
740
00:38:18,731 --> 00:38:20,775
and she confirms that she sold
the phone
741
00:38:20,776 --> 00:38:23,562
via an online auction site
to a Kayleigh Gaines.
742
00:38:24,998 --> 00:38:25,999
This...
743
00:38:28,088 --> 00:38:31,830
is a record of the call traffic
between that mobile phone
744
00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:32,832
and Nick Carlton's.
745
00:38:34,050 --> 00:38:35,921
We also know you were texting
each other
746
00:38:35,922 --> 00:38:39,360
like a couple of teenagers
the week Jodie went missing.
747
00:38:40,013 --> 00:38:41,797
Well, I did buy that phone,
yeah,
748
00:38:42,058 --> 00:38:44,496
but it was nicked the day
I got it.
749
00:38:44,931 --> 00:38:47,063
Maybe Farris took it.
I was thinking--
750
00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:49,064
Farris and Nick Carlton,
751
00:38:49,065 --> 00:38:50,588
maybe they was in on it
together.
752
00:38:50,589 --> 00:38:51,851
The problem here, Kayleigh...
753
00:38:52,808 --> 00:38:55,506
is that we can tell the location
of the calls
754
00:38:55,507 --> 00:38:57,421
as well as the phone
they came from.
755
00:38:57,422 --> 00:38:59,902
The calls from your phone
came...
756
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,514
from your flat.
757
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,957
So, you see, Kayleigh, we know
you're involved.
758
00:39:17,442 --> 00:39:19,139
- Kayleigh?
- All right.
759
00:39:36,548 --> 00:39:38,114
He was only supposed
to hide her.
760
00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,618
Kayleigh hired
a sex offender
761
00:40:04,619 --> 00:40:05,837
to snatch Jodie off the street
762
00:40:05,838 --> 00:40:07,448
and keep her hidden
for six days.
763
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,754
That's kidnap,
false imprisonment,
764
00:40:09,755 --> 00:40:11,104
and the child cruelty involved
765
00:40:11,452 --> 00:40:13,061
makes it
unlawful act manslaughter.
766
00:40:13,062 --> 00:40:14,150
Well, hang on though.
767
00:40:14,455 --> 00:40:16,152
Jodie died as a result
of being gagged.
768
00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:18,893
Are we saying that Kayleigh knew
Carlton would gag Jodie?
769
00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:20,939
You can add perverting
the course of justice
770
00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:23,029
to that list 'cause the woman
is a born liar.
771
00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:25,161
So we charge her
with all four offences.
772
00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:27,729
Yes, but if you do...
we do it right.
773
00:40:28,513 --> 00:40:30,078
She will change her story
ten times
774
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:31,689
before she gets
into that witness box,
775
00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:33,735
so you need to corroborate
these witnesses.
776
00:40:36,608 --> 00:40:38,957
Mrs. Carlton, the
police are going to charge you
777
00:40:38,958 --> 00:40:41,003
- with assisting an offender.
- Oh...
778
00:40:42,048 --> 00:40:42,962
that's rich.
779
00:40:44,877 --> 00:40:46,966
Lock me up, a pensioner.
780
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,144
While that murdering bitch
walks around free as you like.
781
00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:53,146
Did your son--
782
00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:55,713
did he tell you
why Kayleigh Gaines
783
00:40:55,714 --> 00:40:56,845
wanted Jodie kidnapped?
784
00:41:05,637 --> 00:41:07,726
The more you can tell us
about her involvement...
785
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,120
the greater chance we have
of putting her behind bars.
786
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,647
If Nick... said anything.
787
00:41:19,215 --> 00:41:20,913
After the girl got sick...
788
00:41:22,001 --> 00:41:24,133
Nick said he called Mrs. Gaines.
789
00:41:25,134 --> 00:41:27,006
Told her that they needed
a doctor.
790
00:41:29,095 --> 00:41:32,228
He wanted to take her himself,
but she, Mrs. Gaines,
791
00:41:32,533 --> 00:41:33,621
she said no.
792
00:41:35,536 --> 00:41:39,192
Said they'd both get sent down,
if anyone found out.
793
00:41:40,106 --> 00:41:42,107
Nick told Mrs. Gaines
that the girl
794
00:41:42,108 --> 00:41:44,763
was crying and making
a lot of noise.
795
00:41:47,809 --> 00:41:48,810
She said...
796
00:41:50,725 --> 00:41:52,031
"Tape her mouth up.
797
00:41:53,249 --> 00:41:54,512
Stop her whining."
798
00:41:59,691 --> 00:42:01,170
It was only meant
to be a week.
799
00:42:02,694 --> 00:42:03,869
Fortnight, tops.
800
00:42:04,913 --> 00:42:06,567
You were prepared...
801
00:42:06,785 --> 00:42:09,701
to let a total stranger look
after Jodie for two weeks?
802
00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:11,790
It was a nice flat.
803
00:42:13,269 --> 00:42:15,924
She had everything she needed.
Telly, Xbox, the lot.
804
00:42:17,796 --> 00:42:19,057
Nick Carlton
805
00:42:19,058 --> 00:42:21,234
was a convicted rapist,
wasn't he?
806
00:42:21,713 --> 00:42:23,192
Yeah, but he never touched her,
did he?
807
00:42:23,802 --> 00:42:26,674
The police said
she weren't abused.
808
00:42:27,632 --> 00:42:31,070
You stabbed Nick Carlton
to cover up your involvement,
809
00:42:31,287 --> 00:42:32,245
didn't you?
810
00:42:33,507 --> 00:42:35,074
Stabbed him 'cause he killed
my little girl.
811
00:42:36,249 --> 00:42:37,859
Papers called me a hero.
812
00:42:41,646 --> 00:42:42,951
I'm still the same person.
813
00:42:44,257 --> 00:42:47,303
Yes. Yes, you are.
814
00:42:52,657 --> 00:42:55,660
Why did you get Nick Carlton
to kidnap Jodie?
815
00:42:58,750 --> 00:42:59,751
It was Farris.
816
00:43:01,056 --> 00:43:02,014
It was his idea.
817
00:43:04,799 --> 00:43:06,105
When a kid goes missing,
818
00:43:06,758 --> 00:43:08,586
the papers wanna talk
to the mum, don't they?
819
00:43:10,196 --> 00:43:11,197
Farris said,
820
00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:15,288
"If there was a happy ending,
papers would pay a fortune."
821
00:43:17,638 --> 00:43:19,117
You put Jodie's life at risk,
822
00:43:19,118 --> 00:43:20,380
just so you could sell
your story?
823
00:43:22,164 --> 00:43:23,644
I didn't know he'd kill her,
did I?
824
00:43:23,949 --> 00:43:27,125
Kayleigh, make me understand
why you would risk her life.
825
00:43:27,126 --> 00:43:29,041
What did you need the money for?
826
00:43:41,967 --> 00:43:43,838
I wanted to be a proper mum.
827
00:43:49,104 --> 00:43:50,802
The kind I never had.
828
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,856
She grew inside me, all safe.
829
00:44:02,944 --> 00:44:03,945
And then...
830
00:44:05,164 --> 00:44:07,122
the minute she was born,
it all went wrong.
831
00:44:12,388 --> 00:44:14,913
Lennie just took her away
from me.
832
00:44:16,088 --> 00:44:18,264
He just... took over.
833
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,403
I kept trying to find
my way back, but I couldn't.
834
00:44:36,064 --> 00:44:37,413
I needed the money...
835
00:44:38,850 --> 00:44:40,068
to pay for rehab.
836
00:44:42,070 --> 00:44:43,681
I was all booked in. I...
837
00:44:44,812 --> 00:44:46,031
I was gonna get clean...
838
00:44:46,901 --> 00:44:48,686
so I could be with Jodie again.
839
00:44:49,382 --> 00:44:52,384
Then why didn't you do it
the right way, the normal way?
840
00:44:52,385 --> 00:44:54,168
Get clean,
and then prove yourself
841
00:44:54,169 --> 00:44:56,128
- to the courts?
- Well, how?
842
00:44:57,303 --> 00:44:59,392
The NHS wouldn't fund me twice.
843
00:45:00,436 --> 00:45:01,699
I begged for help.
844
00:45:02,047 --> 00:45:04,222
I screamed and shouted for it.
845
00:45:04,223 --> 00:45:05,703
But nobody listened.
846
00:45:06,181 --> 00:45:08,314
Because people like you,
847
00:45:09,141 --> 00:45:10,142
like her...
848
00:45:12,971 --> 00:45:15,060
all of you, you don't see me.
849
00:45:21,196 --> 00:45:24,416
I'm that bit of shit
on the pavement you step around,
850
00:45:24,417 --> 00:45:26,201
so you don't mess up your shoes.
851
00:45:29,204 --> 00:45:32,033
I was gonna get clean
and take her away
852
00:45:32,773 --> 00:45:35,341
We were going to Ibiza.
Me and Jodie.
853
00:45:35,950 --> 00:45:39,084
Far away from London and Lennie.
And the drugs.
854
00:45:40,302 --> 00:45:43,741
So we could be together.
So I could be her mum again.
855
00:45:44,045 --> 00:45:46,264
You were going
to take that little girl away
856
00:45:46,265 --> 00:45:48,267
from the only loving parent
she knew?
857
00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:49,920
I loved her more than he did.
858
00:45:49,921 --> 00:45:51,835
You didn't think twice
about the trauma
859
00:45:51,836 --> 00:45:53,227
of being snatched off the street
860
00:45:53,228 --> 00:45:55,273
- by a total stranger.
- No, it wasn't like that.
861
00:45:55,274 --> 00:45:57,449
You didn't lose a wink of sleep
at the thought of Jodie,
862
00:45:57,450 --> 00:45:58,929
shoved in the back of a van,
863
00:45:58,930 --> 00:46:00,452
tied up, her mouth taped shut,
did you?
864
00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:02,149
- No, you're wrong!
- And all because you wanted
865
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:03,935
to be a proper mum again.
866
00:46:09,462 --> 00:46:11,769
You don't deserve to be a mum.
867
00:47:00,295 --> 00:47:02,167
Shame on you!
64515
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