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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,678 --> 00:00:15,432 Victoria Beckham, the Posh Spice of the Spice Girls, 2 00:00:15,515 --> 00:00:18,351 one of the top-selling female pop groups in history. 3 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:23,815 Posh Spice, Victoria Adams, 4 00:00:23,898 --> 00:00:26,443 and British soccer star David Beckham are engaged. 5 00:00:26,526 --> 00:00:28,153 He's very sexy, isn't he? 6 00:00:28,236 --> 00:00:31,865 Victoria is not a typical footballer's wife. 7 00:00:31,948 --> 00:00:34,492 Victoria's clearly a very assertive young woman. 8 00:00:34,576 --> 00:00:37,912 From his underwear to her eating habits, 9 00:00:37,996 --> 00:00:41,166 we are spared almost no detail about the lives 10 00:00:41,249 --> 00:00:43,043 of David and Victoria Beckham. 11 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:47,172 The former Spice Girl has seen her clothing and accessories brand 12 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:50,675 grow into a business with a £30 million turnover. 13 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:54,512 A lot of stars simply slap their name on a fashion label 14 00:00:54,596 --> 00:00:56,556 and call themselves designers. 15 00:00:56,639 --> 00:00:57,891 Not Victoria Beckham. 16 00:00:58,892 --> 00:01:01,227 Victoria Beckham Ltd. What's gone wrong there? 17 00:01:01,311 --> 00:01:04,689 The losses have increased to about 12 million in this recent year. 18 00:01:05,648 --> 00:01:08,109 Hubby has bailed her out. 19 00:01:08,193 --> 00:01:09,194 Victoria Beckham, 20 00:01:09,277 --> 00:01:11,488 she's been exhibiting some very diva-like behavior. 21 00:01:11,571 --> 00:01:13,865 I don't think Victoria made it through her talent. 22 00:01:13,948 --> 00:01:16,034 I think she used the media to get to where she is. 23 00:01:16,117 --> 00:01:18,036 Smile! Smile! 24 00:01:18,119 --> 00:01:21,581 The current feeling about her is, "Just give it a rest, love." 25 00:01:39,307 --> 00:01:41,518 I think you just start it when 26 00:01:42,143 --> 00:01:43,812 you don't wanna listen to me. 27 00:01:44,646 --> 00:01:45,480 What? 28 00:01:45,563 --> 00:01:48,024 -When you don't wanna listen to me, you-- -What? 29 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:50,443 -When you don't wanna listen to me-- -What? 30 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:01,746 -Right, I've gotta get to work. Love you. -Okay. Love you. 31 00:02:02,997 --> 00:02:04,916 What do you call a bear with no teeth? 32 00:02:04,999 --> 00:02:06,960 What do you call a bear with no teeth? 33 00:02:07,043 --> 00:02:08,128 Gummy bear. 34 00:02:09,671 --> 00:02:10,505 Love you! 35 00:02:10,588 --> 00:02:13,591 He thinks that that's gonna be his moment in the documentary. 36 00:02:13,675 --> 00:02:15,176 It's not about him. 37 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:17,762 It's about… It's about me. 38 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:47,417 -Hey, good morning. -How are you? 39 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:50,003 I'm good, thank you. You inspired my outfit today. 40 00:02:50,086 --> 00:02:54,257 When I saw it the other day, I was like, "Really go fully black." 41 00:02:54,340 --> 00:02:58,428 -Hey, Lara. How are you? Good morning. -I'm okay. How are you? 42 00:02:58,511 --> 00:03:00,555 Did you have a good weekend? Relaxing? 43 00:03:00,638 --> 00:03:03,600 Yeah. Very good. Very chill. You? 44 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:06,227 Oh my God. We went to hot yoga. I couldn't do it. 45 00:03:06,311 --> 00:03:08,104 Hot yoga is intense, no? 46 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:11,107 We were in this tent. It looked like a big vagina. 47 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:13,484 It looked like a vagina, this tent. 48 00:03:15,111 --> 00:03:18,615 Hi, Fig. How are you doing? 49 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:26,039 When I first started this fashion business 18 years ago, 50 00:03:26,706 --> 00:03:28,541 I didn't know a lot about the industry. 51 00:03:29,751 --> 00:03:34,047 I was scared. I was scared because I loved fashion 52 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:36,132 and it was always my dream. 53 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:39,469 But I knew what people thought. 54 00:03:40,386 --> 00:03:42,764 "She was a pop star. She's married to a footballer." 55 00:03:42,847 --> 00:03:44,140 "Who does she think she is?" 56 00:03:45,808 --> 00:03:50,605 -What about if we had less? -Less of the fabric. I agree. 57 00:03:50,688 --> 00:03:53,399 It's just covering that little bit of bum. 58 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,985 I'm sure the fashion industry 59 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:58,488 liked listening to the Spice Girls at some point. 60 00:03:58,571 --> 00:04:00,323 Maybe. Maybe not. 61 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:04,661 But I don't think that they saw me as cool at all. 62 00:04:05,578 --> 00:04:06,579 And I get it. 63 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,376 I understand why there's been those preconceptions, 64 00:04:11,459 --> 00:04:13,586 but I never took no for an answer. 65 00:04:14,128 --> 00:04:15,672 That is too high. 66 00:04:15,755 --> 00:04:18,716 This has not been an easy ride. 67 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,386 I mean, I'm lucky I've still got a business, 68 00:04:21,886 --> 00:04:24,889 and I'm not gonna let it slip through my fingers again. 69 00:04:25,723 --> 00:04:28,393 But I do feel the pressure of that, 70 00:04:28,476 --> 00:04:32,522 and that's because I am still judged on every single level 71 00:04:32,605 --> 00:04:35,191 because of where I've come from. 72 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,944 Yo, I'll tell you what I want What I really, really want 73 00:04:38,027 --> 00:04:39,946 So tell me what you want What you really, really want… 74 00:04:40,029 --> 00:04:43,783 The best-selling pop groups of recent years have been mostly male. 75 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:46,411 -I wanna, I wanna, I wanna… -Ha, ha, ha… 76 00:04:46,494 --> 00:04:48,997 And then, from nowhere, came the Spice Girls. 77 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,875 If you wanna be my lover You gotta get with my friends 78 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:53,793 Make it last… 79 00:04:53,876 --> 00:04:56,671 Not even the Beatles made a bigger first splash 80 00:04:56,754 --> 00:04:59,132 in this country and around the world 81 00:04:59,215 --> 00:05:02,260 than a pop band that sells "girl power." 82 00:05:02,343 --> 00:05:03,761 When you're feeling… 83 00:05:03,845 --> 00:05:05,930 -Arriba! -Arriba! 84 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:08,349 We will take you where you gotta go… 85 00:05:10,810 --> 00:05:12,270 It's the best group in the world. 86 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:16,274 All you need is positivity… 87 00:05:16,357 --> 00:05:17,900 Why do you like the Spice Girls so much? 88 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:20,611 'Cause they're so cool, and they're so fun, 89 00:05:20,695 --> 00:05:22,572 and they're all about girl power. 90 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:24,407 Do you ladies believe in girl power? 91 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:25,616 Yes. 92 00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:30,079 Ah! Shake it to the left… 93 00:05:30,163 --> 00:05:32,540 When people say, "The Spice Girls changed my life," 94 00:05:32,623 --> 00:05:38,212 "The Spice Girls made me accept who I am and what I am and how I look…" 95 00:05:40,089 --> 00:05:42,300 They did that to me too. 96 00:05:42,383 --> 00:05:45,094 That uncool kid at school that's awkward, 97 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:46,471 that was me. 98 00:05:46,554 --> 00:05:49,807 They could see me now 99 00:05:49,891 --> 00:05:52,143 That little gang of mine… 100 00:05:52,226 --> 00:05:55,646 I'm eating fancy chow And drinking fancy wine… 101 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:57,482 I used to love to dance. 102 00:05:58,107 --> 00:05:59,734 I was a performer. 103 00:05:59,817 --> 00:06:03,404 The kind of top-drawer First-rate chums I attract… 104 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:09,786 I knew every single lyric of every single song in the West End. 105 00:06:09,869 --> 00:06:11,871 He signed his autograph 106 00:06:11,954 --> 00:06:14,624 What a buildup! Holy cow! 107 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:19,462 They'd never believe it If my friends could see me now 108 00:06:19,545 --> 00:06:23,132 I have a picture of myself when I was really, really young, 109 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:24,759 and I'm really smiling. 110 00:06:24,842 --> 00:06:27,178 Don't be shocked. I'm really smiling, 111 00:06:27,261 --> 00:06:30,515 with a bright yellow top hat and fishnet tights. 112 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:34,227 I've always loved dressing up, 113 00:06:34,811 --> 00:06:38,189 loved that part of being onstage. 114 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:43,528 When I was about seven years old, 115 00:06:43,611 --> 00:06:47,573 I said to my mum, "You've gotta make me a snowman outfit," 116 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:51,828 because I wanted to be the main part in "Frosty the Snowman." 117 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:56,582 And I knew the only way that I would get the part of Frosty the Snowman 118 00:06:56,666 --> 00:07:00,294 is if I told them, "I've got a costume at home," which I didn't. 119 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:04,215 I don't know how she did that overnight, but she did it. 120 00:07:06,342 --> 00:07:11,431 It was my dream to go to one of those American theater schools, 121 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:14,517 but the reality was I used to go to dancing classes 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,062 in a village hall in Hertfordshire. 123 00:07:18,813 --> 00:07:22,358 I used to enjoy the sense of escapism. 124 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:25,903 You become someone else. 125 00:07:28,030 --> 00:07:30,783 I was definitely a loner at school. 126 00:07:31,492 --> 00:07:35,371 I was bullied. I was awkward. I wasn't particularly sociable. 127 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:37,874 I just didn't fit in, at all. 128 00:07:38,791 --> 00:07:40,835 But when you're on stage, 129 00:07:40,918 --> 00:07:44,172 for that moment, you're somebody else, 130 00:07:44,255 --> 00:07:46,591 and I didn't really wanna be me. I didn't like me. 131 00:07:48,217 --> 00:07:52,138 I desperately wanted to be liked. 132 00:07:55,558 --> 00:07:58,769 I'd never thought about being in a pop group. 133 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:04,942 And then all of a sudden, there was an audition. "Girl band." 134 00:08:05,026 --> 00:08:08,821 I'm Victoria Adams, I'm 19 years old, and I'm from Hertfordshire. 135 00:08:09,363 --> 00:08:10,573 We had to sing a song. 136 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:15,411 So of course, everybody else was singing Madonna or Whitney Houston. 137 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:16,496 You know, pop songs. 138 00:08:16,579 --> 00:08:18,414 Lieber Herr… 139 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:20,958 I chose "Mein Herr" from Cabaret. 140 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:23,878 Lieber Herr… 141 00:08:23,961 --> 00:08:28,966 I think I'm more eccentric than I ever really realized. 142 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:32,220 Either that or I'm batshit crazy. I don't know. One or the other. 143 00:08:32,303 --> 00:08:34,555 But the rest is history, really. 144 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:37,308 We're all working hard, and we're all ambitious, 145 00:08:37,391 --> 00:08:38,643 which is good. 146 00:08:38,726 --> 00:08:40,394 None of us are really that lazy. 147 00:08:40,478 --> 00:08:44,482 And we wanna be on Smash Hits, as well, and Top of the Pops and things like that. 148 00:08:44,565 --> 00:08:48,736 They made me more lighthearted, more fun. 149 00:08:51,656 --> 00:08:56,869 It was the first time that I ever felt that I belonged. 150 00:08:57,703 --> 00:08:59,830 All of a sudden, I was popular. 151 00:09:00,331 --> 00:09:03,084 -Am I having fun? I'm having great… -Ha ha ha ha! 152 00:09:03,167 --> 00:09:05,336 I'm really having fun. I'm having lots of fun. 153 00:09:05,419 --> 00:09:08,172 Yeah, I'm doing something that I've always wanted to do, 154 00:09:08,256 --> 00:09:11,300 and I'm doing it with best friends, and I'm pleased that I'm sharing 155 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:14,136 all these experiences with my four best friends, basically. 156 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,891 My life would be very different if I hadn't met those four girls. 157 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:23,896 I remember the girls saying to me, "You're funny. It's okay." 158 00:09:24,564 --> 00:09:26,732 "Be who you are." 159 00:09:27,358 --> 00:09:29,902 -These aren't mine, are they? -These ones are yours. 160 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:30,903 Amazing. 161 00:09:30,987 --> 00:09:33,906 So we've got your original ones that we tried on the other day, 162 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:35,825 and then these ones came in yesterday. 163 00:09:35,908 --> 00:09:37,451 -Great. -Yeah. 164 00:09:37,535 --> 00:09:39,161 Absolutely gorgeous. 165 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:43,499 So much better on the cut there. 166 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,876 Can we go in here and I have a little look? 167 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,462 -Yeah. -Amazing. 168 00:09:49,630 --> 00:09:51,215 Come through, guys. 169 00:09:52,925 --> 00:09:56,387 -So nice. -Yeah, so amazing. 170 00:10:02,018 --> 00:10:03,436 So nice. 171 00:10:04,645 --> 00:10:07,607 The shoulder looks great. The collar's nice and strong. 172 00:10:09,025 --> 00:10:11,485 -I love it. -With the Alina Jean it looks fantastic. 173 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:13,821 It does look good with these jeans. 174 00:10:14,322 --> 00:10:19,785 The Spice Girls made me feel good enough about being me. 175 00:10:20,286 --> 00:10:23,914 And I tell Harper every single day, 176 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:28,169 "You follow your dreams, and be who you are." 177 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,465 Like, shoulder, clap. 178 00:10:32,548 --> 00:10:34,425 And then I'm gonna go like that 179 00:10:34,508 --> 00:10:36,302 while you do something. 180 00:10:36,385 --> 00:10:38,346 -A little solo. -I don't like to freestyle. 181 00:10:38,429 --> 00:10:40,931 -No, no, no. Just do like a… -My moves. 182 00:10:41,015 --> 00:10:43,476 Just do like a… Something like that. 183 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,935 -Okay. -Yeah, exactly. 184 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:46,520 Okay. 185 00:10:47,855 --> 00:10:51,317 Ah, freak out, le freak… 186 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,277 No! No! 187 00:10:53,361 --> 00:10:55,821 -What? -You need to do a dance move. 188 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:59,075 -Well, could… -So, like, just do something random. 189 00:10:59,742 --> 00:11:01,911 Do your tap dancing. Do, like, the… 190 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:03,537 -I'm not gonna do my tap-- -No? Okay. 191 00:11:03,621 --> 00:11:04,664 Okay. 192 00:11:04,747 --> 00:11:07,625 -Are you gonna put me through a filter? -Yeah. 193 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:11,379 What filter do you want me to put it through? I can do this one. 194 00:11:11,962 --> 00:11:14,840 -Oh. I look great in that filter. -It's like… Okay. 195 00:11:15,508 --> 00:11:16,384 Okay. 196 00:11:20,763 --> 00:11:22,306 Ah, freak out 197 00:11:23,391 --> 00:11:25,267 Le freak, c'est chic 198 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:26,477 Freak out 199 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:30,564 Freak out 200 00:11:31,565 --> 00:11:32,525 Le freak… 201 00:11:32,608 --> 00:11:35,111 Oh look, she's still got moves. Look at that! 202 00:11:35,194 --> 00:11:38,155 I'm a good… This is a good angle for me as well. 203 00:11:39,323 --> 00:11:41,909 -I really like that one. -Okay. Will you send me that? 204 00:11:43,619 --> 00:11:45,246 You don't wanna kiss me, darling. 205 00:11:45,329 --> 00:11:47,123 You're gonna get my germs. 206 00:11:47,665 --> 00:11:49,583 -I don't mind. -You don't mind? 207 00:11:49,667 --> 00:11:52,712 I've got an immune system like an ox. 208 00:11:53,671 --> 00:11:55,339 Like an ox? 209 00:11:58,718 --> 00:12:00,511 When I met Victoria, 210 00:12:00,594 --> 00:12:02,847 I couldn't find one thing about her I didn't like. 211 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:05,766 Not one thing. I mean, I can find a few now. 212 00:12:07,643 --> 00:12:08,477 No, back away. 213 00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:10,271 -I'm just saying-- -Back up. 214 00:12:11,355 --> 00:12:16,485 Back then, she was this mythical person. 215 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:18,487 -You're the posh one. -I wouldn't go that far. 216 00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:21,323 My mum's pleased they're saying that, but I don't think I am. 217 00:12:21,407 --> 00:12:23,534 She's posh compared to the rest of us. 218 00:12:25,536 --> 00:12:27,955 -Hey! -We're in Las Vegas! 219 00:12:28,038 --> 00:12:30,082 At that time, the Spice Girls were so big, 220 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:32,334 and I was just a footballer in Manchester. 221 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,213 And no one knew that we were dating. 222 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:41,385 But, in all honesty, I was so excited. 223 00:12:41,469 --> 00:12:44,221 I wanted everyone to know that I was dating Posh Spice. 224 00:12:45,681 --> 00:12:47,683 -You do look gorgeous. -Pardon? 225 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:50,186 -You look beautiful. -Like my Christmas present? 226 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,271 That looks right. 227 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:56,776 I wasn't really looking for anything. I was having fun with my friends. 228 00:12:57,735 --> 00:13:02,698 But when I met David, I'd never felt that connection with anybody before. 229 00:13:04,867 --> 00:13:06,786 I fell hard and fell quick. 230 00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:12,541 And within two years of being together, 231 00:13:13,375 --> 00:13:16,962 we were married and with one kid. 232 00:13:19,965 --> 00:13:22,426 We've been married for 25 years, 233 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:26,514 and we have grown and changed together. 234 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:31,101 What's going on with this ear? 235 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,524 I can't go to the palace with just one earring in. 236 00:13:42,738 --> 00:13:46,408 David always likes to leave early. 237 00:13:46,492 --> 00:13:49,787 We… we literally went to a birthday party the other day, 238 00:13:50,287 --> 00:13:52,081 and we were there before the host. 239 00:13:53,999 --> 00:13:55,459 It's actually embarrassing. 240 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:58,003 We were there before even all the waiting staff. 241 00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:03,425 Gorgeous. 242 00:14:06,053 --> 00:14:07,054 Do you want a Wispa? 243 00:14:07,596 --> 00:14:09,598 -Do you want a Wispa? -No, thank you. 244 00:14:10,099 --> 00:14:13,519 I haven't touched chocolate since the '90s. Not gonna start now. 245 00:14:13,602 --> 00:14:16,188 All right. You wanna take this in the car? 246 00:14:16,772 --> 00:14:19,525 -I do, but then what if I spill it? -That's the problem. 247 00:14:20,109 --> 00:14:21,443 You wanna chance it? 248 00:14:22,027 --> 00:14:24,238 Why don't you put it in a sippy cup with a straw? 249 00:14:24,321 --> 00:14:27,032 Should put it through an intravenous drip. Let's be honest. 250 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:29,785 Gorgeous. 251 00:14:31,203 --> 00:14:34,290 Here's a fact. I've looked miserable… We've got time for this story. 252 00:14:34,373 --> 00:14:38,544 I've looked miserable for all these years because when we stand on the red carpet, 253 00:14:38,627 --> 00:14:41,422 this guy has always gone on the left. 254 00:14:42,006 --> 00:14:45,926 Okay? Now, I didn't realize that when I smile, which I do, 255 00:14:46,010 --> 00:14:47,928 I smile from the left 256 00:14:48,012 --> 00:14:51,098 'cause if I smile from the right, I look unwell. 257 00:14:52,266 --> 00:14:54,435 -So I'm smiling… -I'm not gonna be in this. 258 00:14:54,518 --> 00:14:57,396 I'm smiling on the inside, but no one ever sees it, 259 00:14:57,479 --> 00:14:58,856 so that's why I look so moody. 260 00:14:58,939 --> 00:15:00,983 -Right. You ready? -Thank you. 261 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:03,569 -You look gorgeous. -You got your ziplock. Classy. 262 00:15:03,652 --> 00:15:05,571 See you later. Where's your jacket? 263 00:15:05,654 --> 00:15:06,530 It's fine. 264 00:15:06,614 --> 00:15:07,740 -Sure? -Where's your jacket? 265 00:15:07,823 --> 00:15:09,408 -It's in the car. -It's fine. 266 00:15:09,491 --> 00:15:11,285 -You don't want your jacket? -No, it's fine. 267 00:15:11,368 --> 00:15:13,287 -See you later. -Bye! 268 00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:14,371 Bye. 269 00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:23,088 I really like it. It looks quite wide. 270 00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:25,799 Is that just because it's come up big on Marcele? 271 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:29,678 If I was gonna wear that, I'd want it just slimmed down just… 272 00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:33,015 I mean, it… it's just a production comment, maybe. 273 00:15:33,098 --> 00:15:34,350 Do you know what I mean? 274 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:39,855 I started by creating clothes that I wanted to wear. 275 00:15:41,148 --> 00:15:43,651 Contemporary, effortless, 276 00:15:43,734 --> 00:15:50,199 really focusing on making the garments really, really flattering. 277 00:15:50,699 --> 00:15:55,663 Something that made me feel good, made me feel strong, 278 00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:58,916 and, ultimately, like the best version of myself. 279 00:15:58,999 --> 00:16:03,963 I think it needs to be almost like a straight short. 280 00:16:04,046 --> 00:16:05,172 Don't you think? 281 00:16:09,176 --> 00:16:12,179 For the last six months, I have been preparing 282 00:16:12,262 --> 00:16:15,516 for the biggest fashion show I have ever done. 283 00:16:17,267 --> 00:16:19,478 You're thinking of holding on to that one? 284 00:16:19,561 --> 00:16:22,606 No, no. I'm just… No, I don't care. I love this… 285 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:24,817 I'm showing in Paris, 286 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:28,570 the toughest city, with the toughest critics, 287 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:33,367 amongst the biggest fashion houses in the industry. 288 00:16:34,243 --> 00:16:35,744 I do really like this. 289 00:16:35,828 --> 00:16:41,333 However, on its own, we only tried this one option of that. 290 00:16:41,417 --> 00:16:43,627 I think we should do that again in the other colors. 291 00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:46,755 I think we need to go back and look at every single knit, Lara. 292 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:47,965 See if there's anything else. 293 00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:49,216 -Yes. -I agree. 294 00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:55,723 Figure out what color leather. 295 00:16:55,806 --> 00:16:58,976 Oh God, sorry. That's your knickers. I'm so sorry. 296 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:01,687 -Don't pull down her knickers. -Want me to do it? 297 00:17:01,770 --> 00:17:02,771 Not for Netflix! 298 00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:06,692 It's not that kind of movie, is it, Marcele? Christ! 299 00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:12,781 This is the first time 300 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:19,747 that I've had 600 people at a show in one space. 301 00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:21,999 Beautiful castle. 302 00:17:22,082 --> 00:17:24,960 All the girls are coming down from there, some beautiful stairs. 303 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:27,796 Fragrance experience. How it looks now. 304 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,591 Where we want the bottle. VIP room. 305 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:35,429 I've taken on a challenge with a show space. 306 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:39,558 The big fashion houses build environments 307 00:17:39,641 --> 00:17:43,353 in which they are going to show their collections, 308 00:17:43,437 --> 00:17:46,899 and this is the first time that I'm doing that. 309 00:17:46,982 --> 00:17:50,360 -All of this is painted in the same green. -Yeah. 310 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:52,946 -So it doesn't look wedding or… -And at night, it'll… 311 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:55,699 And at night, it's just gonna disappear in the decor… 312 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,078 Paris is the biggest stage that there is. 313 00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:02,081 You get the most press, you get the most attention, 314 00:18:02,164 --> 00:18:05,375 you get the most buyers, you get the most of everything in Paris. 315 00:18:05,459 --> 00:18:08,587 It's just the city where you have the biggest volume. 316 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:11,799 Paris makes me up my game. 317 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:18,555 Now, if we wanted to exaggerate this molded detail, 318 00:18:18,639 --> 00:18:22,309 could we exaggerate it, if we wanted to, for show? 319 00:18:22,392 --> 00:18:24,645 Yeah, I think you're right. I think so. 320 00:18:25,145 --> 00:18:26,980 This season is about dressing, 321 00:18:27,064 --> 00:18:30,275 how we all pull out clothes from our wardrobe 322 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,361 and try them on and play with them. 323 00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:35,864 And we've created garments that have been made out of resin, 324 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:39,743 so we can drape fabrics over the resin, 325 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:42,996 freeze-framing movement. 326 00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:50,420 But, then, the resin is experimental for us. 327 00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:56,510 I think it's incredibly difficult to make a mark 328 00:18:56,593 --> 00:18:59,388 during Paris Fashion Week or any of the fashion weeks 329 00:18:59,471 --> 00:19:02,391 because fashion is so saturated. 330 00:19:02,474 --> 00:19:05,227 We're so bombarded with stuff. 331 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:09,398 Only a certain amount will rise to the top. 332 00:19:10,816 --> 00:19:13,110 I've always wanted to do this. 333 00:19:14,486 --> 00:19:19,241 Throughout my life, I've used clothes to become someone else, 334 00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:22,494 be the person that I always wanted to be 335 00:19:22,578 --> 00:19:25,330 that maybe, naturally, I wasn't. 336 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:32,379 I used to customize the school uniform in the bathroom at lunchtime. 337 00:19:33,338 --> 00:19:36,425 I used to love watching my mum get dressed up. 338 00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:41,430 You know, she really cared and made the best of herself. 339 00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:43,724 I remember my mum saying to me, 340 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:47,561 "If you dress up to get on the aeroplane, 341 00:19:47,644 --> 00:19:49,855 if there's any chance of being upgraded, 342 00:19:49,938 --> 00:19:52,191 they're always gonna look at who looks the best." 343 00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:56,320 The truth is that there is no first class on budget airlines. 344 00:19:58,238 --> 00:20:01,366 But, you know, my mum did not wear designer clothes. 345 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:04,745 There was not fashion magazines around when I was younger. 346 00:20:05,245 --> 00:20:08,290 And then the Spice Girls took the blinkers off. 347 00:20:12,961 --> 00:20:14,463 Here we are, in New York. 348 00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:17,174 Look at the taxi. That proves we're in New York. 349 00:20:17,257 --> 00:20:21,094 Pretty early on, we were working with great stylists, 350 00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,846 amazing makeup artists, 351 00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:25,724 and I learned so much. 352 00:20:26,683 --> 00:20:29,019 The other girls weren't really into fashion. 353 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:32,064 That left a really nice budget for me. 354 00:20:32,564 --> 00:20:35,525 We get this budget to get clothes. You know what I end up getting? 355 00:20:35,609 --> 00:20:39,196 A £20 thing from Oxfam, and that's it. 356 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:40,739 She nicks all my money. 357 00:20:40,822 --> 00:20:43,825 What did you do with all the Spice Girls' clothing budget? 358 00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:45,702 I went to Gucci. 359 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:53,210 I'd never ever owned a designer garment before, 360 00:20:53,293 --> 00:20:56,546 and so this was so new, so exciting. 361 00:20:57,756 --> 00:21:02,010 If you do put on the perfect dress and it does make you feel a certain way… 362 00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:06,890 You know, that confidence, that feeling was something I wasn't used to. 363 00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:09,726 Fashion became everything. 364 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:15,482 And I was so excited to be invited to a fashion show. 365 00:21:15,565 --> 00:21:17,234 I'd never been to a fashion show before. 366 00:21:21,238 --> 00:21:23,699 -Do you like my makeup? -I love your makeup. 367 00:21:23,782 --> 00:21:24,783 It's Victoria Beckham. 368 00:21:26,243 --> 00:21:27,119 Cool. 369 00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:31,206 I met Victoria in 1997. 370 00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:35,919 My daughter, she was obsessed with the Spice Girls. I mean, obsessed. 371 00:21:36,003 --> 00:21:40,716 I got invited to go to the Versace show by Donatella. 372 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,929 They got a private plane, for me, to Milan. 373 00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:48,307 I go into the Versace store, 374 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:50,934 and they tell me that I can get whatever I want. 375 00:21:52,102 --> 00:21:54,730 I'm like, "Well, what's the catch?" 376 00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:58,317 "No, you can get whatever you want." I couldn't… I couldn't believe it. 377 00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:02,946 I selected a black leather dress, 378 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:05,907 and I remember trying on the dress, looking in the mirror, 379 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:08,994 and saying to someone in the store, 380 00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:10,871 "I really like the dress, 381 00:22:10,954 --> 00:22:14,750 but how about, you know, let's tighten it here, shorten it here." 382 00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:17,252 "Let's take off the sleeves. How about we do…" 383 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:20,964 Basically, redesigned the whole dress. 384 00:22:21,548 --> 00:22:24,801 I really can't believe I did that. So rude. 385 00:22:26,511 --> 00:22:28,013 You shouldn't do it. 386 00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:29,973 That's how I feel. 387 00:22:31,058 --> 00:22:32,934 You were… You were surprised? 388 00:22:33,393 --> 00:22:35,479 Yeah, and I thought, "How does she dare?" 389 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,233 Then I realized it was better on her the way she did it. 390 00:22:40,317 --> 00:22:42,110 She knows her body. 391 00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:49,534 Up until this point, everything that I did, 392 00:22:49,618 --> 00:22:51,536 I did with the Spice Girls. 393 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:54,456 So this was the first time it was about me. 394 00:22:55,582 --> 00:23:00,212 And it was everything I could've dreamt of and so much more. 395 00:23:01,338 --> 00:23:03,965 The lights. The music. 396 00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:06,760 The celebrities. 397 00:23:08,762 --> 00:23:11,306 The energy was incredible. 398 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:14,309 And that is contagious. 399 00:23:15,769 --> 00:23:17,604 That's where I got the bug. 400 00:23:26,613 --> 00:23:29,074 Does anybody want a water or anything? 401 00:23:29,157 --> 00:23:30,534 Drinks, anyone? 402 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:33,787 Looking very domesticated. 403 00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:37,207 By the way, don't judge my… don't judge my outfit today. 404 00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:41,211 It's kind of working-from-home day, so it's very casual. 405 00:23:41,294 --> 00:23:45,924 I've been makeup-obsessed since I was very, very little. 406 00:23:46,007 --> 00:23:47,759 What are we doing today? 407 00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:52,681 We have a full list of products… 408 00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:54,015 Every day, I'd go into school, 409 00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:56,977 and they'd send me to the bathroom to take off my makeup. 410 00:23:57,060 --> 00:24:01,440 But in those days, you know, I had such problematic skin. 411 00:24:01,523 --> 00:24:04,067 I remember times when I wouldn't even have the confidence 412 00:24:04,151 --> 00:24:05,944 to look someone in the eye. 413 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:09,281 I suppose I used it as a mask. 414 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:15,704 Since before I can remember, I was collecting products that I liked, 415 00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:18,707 products that had been discontinued, 416 00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:24,713 little samples of lipsticks that makeup artists had mixed for me 417 00:24:24,796 --> 00:24:27,048 because we couldn't find the perfect color. 418 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:31,219 What we really like about this pencil is that it's not white. 419 00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:34,014 I want something that's whiter than that. 420 00:24:34,097 --> 00:24:37,934 I was wearing the white one in my eye, and David said I looked like a lunatic. 421 00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:40,604 And now, with my beauty business, 422 00:24:40,687 --> 00:24:43,064 I can obsess over everything. 423 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:48,153 What we're figuring out is if it's going to come filled or not. 424 00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:52,407 I don't think that anyone would buy it without anything in it. 425 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:56,161 It would be done nicely. Think of it as like a makeup bag. 426 00:24:56,244 --> 00:24:57,621 No. I think that's ridiculous. 427 00:24:57,704 --> 00:25:01,500 I think it either has to come with brushes or not at all 428 00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:06,213 because I don't think anyone would just… buy that. 429 00:25:06,296 --> 00:25:07,547 That's fair. 430 00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:10,926 -This texture is much better. -Yeah. I agree. 431 00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:13,261 -I think the execution could be better. -Okay. 432 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:16,056 And I think it needs to open out better. 433 00:25:16,139 --> 00:25:17,849 We should look at different zip options. 434 00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:22,020 We can get something that's more considered and elegant 435 00:25:22,103 --> 00:25:23,438 and less generic. 436 00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:28,109 I feel an enormous amount of pressure to achieve. 437 00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:30,487 I know what it's like to have something one day 438 00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:32,405 and then lose it all the next. 439 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,871 I went from being up here with the Spice Girls… 440 00:25:44,125 --> 00:25:45,794 Being on tour, 441 00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:48,171 traveling the world. 442 00:25:48,838 --> 00:25:51,424 Everything was so fast. 443 00:25:55,262 --> 00:25:56,846 We were like a tornado. 444 00:25:58,598 --> 00:26:00,141 And then, all of a sudden, 445 00:26:00,642 --> 00:26:01,768 it stopped. 446 00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:07,941 The Spice Girls, Britain's top-earning pop group, have split. 447 00:26:08,024 --> 00:26:09,609 I was a bit upset, 448 00:26:09,693 --> 00:26:13,405 and, actually, I did start crying. 449 00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:16,950 They're best buds. They can't stay together for a couple years? 450 00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:22,247 When the Spice Girls finished, it was so extreme. 451 00:26:23,456 --> 00:26:27,127 One minute, I'm spreading the word of girl power. 452 00:26:28,044 --> 00:26:31,840 And then the next minute, I'm a wife in a flat in Manchester, 453 00:26:31,923 --> 00:26:36,094 not really having any friends, living a long way away from my family. 454 00:26:36,177 --> 00:26:39,556 And I found that transition really, really difficult. 455 00:26:40,890 --> 00:26:44,477 Fireworks for an explosive team. 456 00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:46,062 My life didn't change 457 00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:50,150 because I continued on with my career, and I continued to do what I loved. 458 00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:54,070 A man-of-the-match performance by England's David Beckham. 459 00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:57,574 But it all changed for her, and I think that was… 460 00:26:57,657 --> 00:27:01,620 At the time, I didn't realize how hard that was for her. 461 00:27:03,121 --> 00:27:07,626 I felt so blessed to be married to David. 462 00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:11,671 I had this amazing relationship, this amazing little baby, 463 00:27:12,881 --> 00:27:14,966 but it felt quite slow. 464 00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:17,719 It felt really lonely. 465 00:27:18,845 --> 00:27:20,847 And I remember thinking, 466 00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:23,642 "God, is anybody gonna want to put me on a plane 467 00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:26,102 and do a photoshoot again?" 468 00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:30,690 And I just kept thinking, "What am I gonna do?" 469 00:27:32,734 --> 00:27:35,487 Part of me felt, "Well, you need a rest." 470 00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:39,866 "Take this rest, and then you'll come up with an idea of what you wanna do next." 471 00:27:39,949 --> 00:27:43,036 That was what… That's what I thought. 472 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,537 Whereas, 473 00:27:45,246 --> 00:27:47,582 I don't think she's patient enough for that. 474 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,132 Victoria Beckham, better known as Posh Spice, 475 00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:58,968 is making her first solo bid for the number-one slot. 476 00:27:59,052 --> 00:28:03,014 Birmingham's used to royal visits, and today it rolled out the red carpet 477 00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:05,558 as the queen of celebrity herself arrived. 478 00:28:05,642 --> 00:28:07,894 If you take a look at the papers this morning, 479 00:28:08,436 --> 00:28:11,231 you'll see this woman on virtually every single one. 480 00:28:11,314 --> 00:28:13,983 This is Posh Spice, a woman who's hardly out of the headlines. 481 00:28:14,067 --> 00:28:17,821 When the Spice Girls finished, I was kind of on autopilot, 482 00:28:17,904 --> 00:28:20,073 so I continued working on music. 483 00:28:20,156 --> 00:28:24,202 Performing was all I knew how to do. 484 00:28:24,285 --> 00:28:26,246 Are celebs the new aristocracy? 485 00:28:26,329 --> 00:28:28,331 Victoria Beckham. Is that the new-- 486 00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:31,459 I don't think Victoria Beckham's new anything, you know? 487 00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:33,503 She's got that sort of used look. 488 00:28:35,046 --> 00:28:39,134 At that point, people were questioning, the media were questioning 489 00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:41,010 what was I doing? 490 00:28:41,094 --> 00:28:43,388 And I didn't really know what I was doing. 491 00:28:44,472 --> 00:28:46,641 I have been knocked a lot, and people have said, 492 00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:48,435 "Can't sing, can't dance," which… 493 00:28:48,518 --> 00:28:52,021 I always say, "Oh, it doesn't bother me," but it does. I'm only human. 494 00:28:52,105 --> 00:28:56,693 I'd be lying if I said I was the best singer or dancer. 495 00:28:57,193 --> 00:28:59,529 But when people are mean, 496 00:28:59,612 --> 00:29:02,532 and you're hearing things and you're seeing things, 497 00:29:02,615 --> 00:29:05,577 and you're constantly made to feel you're not good enough, 498 00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:07,412 that really hurts. 499 00:29:07,495 --> 00:29:08,705 Victoria! 500 00:29:08,788 --> 00:29:11,708 And I became so self-conscious. 501 00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:16,588 When I first met Victoria, 502 00:29:16,671 --> 00:29:20,550 she was smiley, she was bubbly, she was confident. 503 00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:23,428 But that started to disappear. 504 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:30,143 People thought I was that miserable cow that never smiled, 505 00:29:30,226 --> 00:29:31,311 and they're not wrong. 506 00:29:32,395 --> 00:29:35,690 Together, they are greater than the sum of their parts. 507 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,985 He's fantastically talented. She wears a lot of clothes. 508 00:29:39,486 --> 00:29:41,696 Beckham is wonderful in what he does. 509 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,992 Madam Beckham comes along, wearing virtually nothing, 510 00:29:46,075 --> 00:29:49,287 and steals the photograph, steals the occasion. 511 00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:52,415 And she's just a common little bitch. 512 00:29:52,916 --> 00:29:53,917 Victoria! 513 00:29:57,504 --> 00:29:58,880 -Jackie. -Sorry? 514 00:29:58,963 --> 00:30:00,173 You're gonna be in here. 515 00:30:00,673 --> 00:30:02,300 Today's a… Can you take these? 516 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:06,346 So we're gonna… 517 00:30:06,846 --> 00:30:08,848 -I'll do you a gin. -I can do it. 518 00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:10,767 -That's vodka. -Oh, good. 519 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:12,977 That just goes to prove I can't do it. 520 00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:14,479 -Here's the gin. -Oh, wow. 521 00:30:15,438 --> 00:30:16,940 I don't know how much to pour. 522 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:20,735 I mean, the lies. 523 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:23,530 -There you go. -We bought you these for your birthday. 524 00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:25,698 -I know you did. -They've got "VB" on them. 525 00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:28,535 -They've got "VB" on them. -Which is very nice. 526 00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:32,997 There used to be that newspaper called The Stage. 527 00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:35,875 -Course. -I used to circle the ads. 528 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:38,294 And I auditioned for Cats and… 529 00:30:38,378 --> 00:30:40,171 -Starlight Express. -…Starlight Express. 530 00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:43,007 I think you got a callback for Starlight Express. 531 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:45,301 The irony 'cause I can't skate. 532 00:30:45,385 --> 00:30:48,012 But when I circled the Spice Girls… 533 00:30:48,096 --> 00:30:49,722 -Remember? -I've still got that paper. 534 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:50,974 -Have you? -Yep. 535 00:30:51,474 --> 00:30:52,308 Yeah. 536 00:30:52,392 --> 00:30:56,104 I used to keep all the cuttings. The good, bad, and the ugly. I used to keep them. 537 00:30:56,187 --> 00:30:58,815 It was very hard, reading bits in the paper about you 538 00:30:58,898 --> 00:31:00,900 because they were vicious, weren't they? 539 00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:03,653 A lot of the stuff was really, really bad. 540 00:31:03,736 --> 00:31:05,113 That was really hard. 541 00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:08,116 You were always strong. 542 00:31:08,199 --> 00:31:11,244 We always knew the truth. As a family, we knew the truth. 543 00:31:11,327 --> 00:31:13,288 And we all had faith in you. 544 00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:17,458 But I think it's having such a strong family unit 545 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:20,295 that always used to help me get through those things 546 00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:23,006 because I remember, you know, 547 00:31:23,089 --> 00:31:25,842 we went through every single thing together, 548 00:31:25,925 --> 00:31:27,135 whether it was in London, 549 00:31:27,218 --> 00:31:30,680 or whether you'd jump on a plane and you'd come out to Spain. 550 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:39,439 We moved to Spain, for David's career. 551 00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,610 I met Victoria in Madrid. 552 00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:46,446 My husband at the time was an athlete, and… 553 00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:48,990 I don't even know if he knew David, 554 00:31:49,073 --> 00:31:52,327 but we went to a Real Madrid game, 555 00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:57,582 and David was there, and he said, "Oh my God, my wife loves your show." 556 00:31:59,292 --> 00:32:02,211 I want you to casually mention how much I paid for your necklace. 557 00:32:02,295 --> 00:32:04,339 Why don't I pin the receipt to my chest? 558 00:32:04,422 --> 00:32:08,509 I knew who she was, and she always looked like fun. 559 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:14,057 We come from such different backgrounds, but we have so much in common. 560 00:32:15,808 --> 00:32:17,435 I didn't know what "WAG" was. 561 00:32:17,518 --> 00:32:20,063 I remember seeing in a press clipping that I was a WAG. 562 00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:21,397 "What the fuck is that?" 563 00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:23,858 Wives and girlfriends. 564 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:27,612 It's hard when you're married to an athlete because the world idolizes them. 565 00:32:28,863 --> 00:32:32,825 There's an assumption that goes with being a wife or a girlfriend, 566 00:32:32,909 --> 00:32:35,244 is that you're a gold digger, 567 00:32:35,995 --> 00:32:37,372 you don't have a job, 568 00:32:37,455 --> 00:32:40,291 you just wanna look pretty and spend money. 569 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,795 People would introduce themself going, "Hi, I'm so-and-so's wife," 570 00:32:43,878 --> 00:32:45,797 and I would go, "Right. What's your name?" 571 00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:49,050 It was like, "Ugh! How could you have a job?" 572 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:51,135 "Your job is to support your husband." 573 00:32:57,183 --> 00:33:00,228 David Beckham says England are relishing their quarter-final contest 574 00:33:00,311 --> 00:33:01,896 against Portugal on Saturday. 575 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:05,692 The England team are, in fact, getting plenty of support here in Germany 576 00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:08,736 because the FA have shipped out their wives and girlfriends 577 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:09,821 to cheer them on. 578 00:33:09,904 --> 00:33:12,824 Look… it was fun. 579 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:22,291 I have been witness to many transformations of Victoria. 580 00:33:22,375 --> 00:33:24,335 One, two, three Take my hand and come with me 581 00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:25,753 Because you look so fine… 582 00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:28,172 I had big boobs. I had big hair. 583 00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:29,507 When you're younger, 584 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:32,427 you're like, "Fuck it. I'm gonna take all these fashion risks," 585 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:33,720 and you can, and it's fun. 586 00:33:33,803 --> 00:33:35,263 It was a moment in time. 587 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,558 We were the WAGs, and they were the HABs. 588 00:33:40,059 --> 00:33:42,478 Husbands… Husbands and boyfriends. 589 00:33:42,562 --> 00:33:44,480 The World Cup may not have been won yet, 590 00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:48,943 but in the glamour stakes, England's WAGs have emerged victorious. 591 00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:53,197 Us ladies were shopping, and we were owning it. 592 00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:56,701 I remember seeing one of these wives 593 00:33:56,784 --> 00:34:02,874 that had bought so many designer clothes and had so many bags, 594 00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:06,502 she couldn't get in the revolving doors at the Baden-Baden hotel. 595 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:12,592 I look at those pictures, and I smile. 596 00:34:12,675 --> 00:34:15,219 But when I look back and think, "Why?" 597 00:34:15,803 --> 00:34:19,057 I suppose there was an element of attention-seeking, 598 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:20,600 if I'm being completely honest. 599 00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:25,146 It was at a time when I didn't feel creatively fulfilled, 600 00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:29,275 so it's how I stayed in the conversation. 601 00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:32,111 From Spice Girls to WAGs. 602 00:34:34,113 --> 00:34:36,157 I didn't realize it at the time, 603 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,242 but I was trying to find myself. 604 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:41,454 I felt… incomplete, 605 00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:43,623 sad, 606 00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:46,834 frozen in time… maybe. 607 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:50,379 I was appreciative of what I had, 608 00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:53,132 but I need a sense of purpose. 609 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:55,468 And I remember saying to myself, 610 00:34:55,551 --> 00:34:59,514 "If I ever get an opportunity again, 611 00:35:00,681 --> 00:35:01,891 I'm not gonna lose it." 612 00:35:01,974 --> 00:35:03,976 "I'm not gonna lose it again." 613 00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:12,735 There's stairs here. 614 00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:16,572 Models come down here, they walk down this way, they go around. 615 00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:18,407 Photographer's down there. 616 00:35:18,991 --> 00:35:22,411 We are starting to plot out our seating plan. 617 00:35:22,495 --> 00:35:25,623 Who needs to be sat where, who's front row, who's not front row, 618 00:35:25,706 --> 00:35:27,041 who's sat next to who. 619 00:35:27,625 --> 00:35:30,878 We start with something, and it mutates. 620 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:32,421 In under 48 hours, 621 00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:36,551 we've gotta pack up this entire place and go to Paris. 622 00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:39,846 -I deleted a whole WhatsApp. -You sure you didn't archive it? 623 00:35:39,929 --> 00:35:42,473 Yeah, I think this is the best match for the boot. 624 00:35:42,557 --> 00:35:44,308 Hello. Hi, darling. 625 00:35:44,392 --> 00:35:47,979 At the same time, I have to say, maybe this is because Marcele… 626 00:35:48,062 --> 00:35:50,898 So Sunday, now, with the final schedule, 627 00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:54,402 it's just the production team with me traveling to Paris 628 00:35:54,485 --> 00:35:57,488 to make sure the beginning of the installation goes well 629 00:35:57,572 --> 00:35:59,448 and goes smoothly. 630 00:35:59,532 --> 00:36:04,662 I wanna make sure that this is the best picture of themselves they've ever seen. 631 00:36:04,745 --> 00:36:07,707 So we will really control the lights, and the mood is… 632 00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:09,917 It's a big, big, big round space, so we can have… 633 00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:11,335 Space in the entrance. 634 00:36:11,419 --> 00:36:13,296 -Happy with the fit? Yeah? -Yeah. 635 00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:16,090 Perfect. Then, like I said, we'll do a final length in Paris. 636 00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:18,301 -Perfect. -Okay. Good. You're happy with that? 637 00:36:18,384 --> 00:36:20,511 -Very happy. -Just do a length. 638 00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,222 Do you want something to eat, darling? 639 00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:24,807 I am quite hungry, actually. 640 00:36:25,308 --> 00:36:28,144 I've been a pit bull. We're looking at budgets. 641 00:36:28,227 --> 00:36:31,731 -It's skyrocketing. -I have ideas for you. 642 00:36:31,814 --> 00:36:32,982 Doors open at 8:00. 643 00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:34,775 Show's 8:30, 644 00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:37,528 but realistically, by the time it starts, it's 9:00. 645 00:36:37,612 --> 00:36:41,032 I might put, like, all the VIPs, they'd all be on this long shot here. 646 00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:44,869 Look, I trust you with this. I know that this is such a nightmare. 647 00:36:44,952 --> 00:36:48,539 You're dealing with the politics. I'm not underestimating this at all. 648 00:36:48,623 --> 00:36:52,919 When I got the white suit the other day, the bra was still pinned. 649 00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:54,212 Oh my God, I'm sorry. 650 00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:56,631 It's not a problem because it's me, 651 00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:59,091 but it is a problem if it happens in Paris. 652 00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:10,061 To be given the opportunity to show in Paris is a big deal. 653 00:37:10,561 --> 00:37:13,689 When I first started showing, 17 years ago, 654 00:37:13,773 --> 00:37:15,191 even in my wildest dreams, 655 00:37:15,274 --> 00:37:20,154 I don't think I could've dreamt it would have gone this far. 656 00:37:29,622 --> 00:37:31,999 They have arrived. 657 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:34,543 Thousands of fans turned out to welcome the newest member 658 00:37:34,627 --> 00:37:36,420 of the LA Galaxy soccer team. 659 00:37:36,504 --> 00:37:38,631 Soccer great David Beckham and wife Victoria, 660 00:37:38,714 --> 00:37:41,425 better known as Posh Spice to some, 661 00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:43,594 flew into LA Thursday. 662 00:37:43,678 --> 00:37:45,680 Waiting for the latest "it" couple, 663 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:48,349 a horde of press and photographers. 664 00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,230 The minute that we landed in America, 665 00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:56,357 it felt like a fresh start. 666 00:37:57,233 --> 00:38:00,027 It was like we escaped. 667 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,780 You're a million miles away 668 00:38:02,863 --> 00:38:06,325 from whatever anybody might be saying about you. 669 00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:12,456 Clearly she is famous. People are saying she's not that famous. 670 00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:16,460 Victoria Beckham has found her spiritual home. 671 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,923 A land of size-zero beach bodies, and Botox. 672 00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:29,432 Even if they were saying horrible things in the UK, I wasn't really aware of it. 673 00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:31,851 I was in the sunshine. I was hiking with my kids. 674 00:38:31,934 --> 00:38:34,770 -Daddy, say "action." -Action. 675 00:38:34,854 --> 00:38:37,189 -Action. -No! Mummy! 676 00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:40,735 As much as we'd moved to LA for my career, 677 00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:43,237 the focus was less on me, 678 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,114 and it gave her confidence. 679 00:38:45,197 --> 00:38:47,825 A lot more than she'd had for a long time. 680 00:38:50,202 --> 00:38:53,456 We were so happy in America. 681 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,207 Goal! 682 00:38:55,291 --> 00:38:58,502 The kids were little. We found great schools for the children. 683 00:39:00,796 --> 00:39:04,175 And I just decided it was time 684 00:39:04,258 --> 00:39:07,887 to really focus on what I want as well. 685 00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:10,473 I think she had an epiphany. 686 00:39:10,556 --> 00:39:11,682 Victoria! 687 00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:15,561 She started trying to define, for herself, who she wanted to be, 688 00:39:15,644 --> 00:39:18,314 and what she could do, and what was possible. 689 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:23,652 I realized it's okay to want more for yourself. 690 00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:28,282 I wanted to really have this creative outlet. 691 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,576 I wanted to work in fashion. 692 00:39:30,659 --> 00:39:33,037 -Victoria! -Victoria! 693 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,501 Marc Jacobs, he is a designer that I have so much respect for. 694 00:39:38,584 --> 00:39:42,213 I went to his show in 2007, 695 00:39:43,005 --> 00:39:45,257 and afterwards, he wrote me a letter 696 00:39:45,341 --> 00:39:48,761 asking me to be in his campaign, 697 00:39:48,844 --> 00:39:51,013 shot by Juergen Teller. 698 00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:56,685 She suddenly appeared in the front row of a Marc Jacobs fashion show, 699 00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:03,526 and, uh, everybody said, "Oh my God, there's Victoria Beckham." 700 00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:05,069 "What is she doing here?" 701 00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:08,030 In the night, Marc called me up and says, 702 00:40:08,114 --> 00:40:11,534 "What do you think about using Victoria Beckham for the campaign?" 703 00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:15,413 I was very excited to… to do the shoot. 704 00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:17,164 We always had people, 705 00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:21,293 like, who we deeply admired in what they artistically did, 706 00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:24,338 whether it was Kim Gordon or Charlotte Rampling, 707 00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:26,173 these so-called cool people. 708 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:27,967 So when I talked to my team, 709 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,678 they thought, "Oh my God, she doesn't fit at all in this." 710 00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:33,472 "Why are you doing this? That's completely wrong." 711 00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:36,350 She was, at the time, 712 00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:39,687 probably the most-photographed woman in the world. 713 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:43,190 I thought, "How am I gonna do this?" 714 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:46,944 And everybody… everybody in the industry's opinion 715 00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:50,239 was that she was always in these paparazzi pictures 716 00:40:50,322 --> 00:40:54,535 and always so kind of grumpy and serious and didn't have a sense of humor. 717 00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:57,830 And I thought, "Hmm. This is something I could think about." 718 00:40:58,330 --> 00:40:59,874 "What are we selling here?" 719 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,173 When I first saw those pictures, 720 00:41:07,673 --> 00:41:09,758 I was horrified. 721 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:17,641 It was very much poking fun at me. 722 00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:23,314 And that's when I realized I was a laughingstock. 723 00:41:23,397 --> 00:41:25,524 No one took me seriously in this industry. 724 00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:31,947 I knew I wanted to be a designer, I knew I had a point of view, 725 00:41:32,656 --> 00:41:37,077 but I also knew that I needed someone to believe in me. 726 00:41:37,786 --> 00:41:40,164 -Coming through. -Thank you, Victoria. 727 00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:51,842 -What are you wearing tonight? -Roland Mouret. 728 00:41:53,219 --> 00:41:54,470 It's Roland Mouret. 729 00:41:59,391 --> 00:42:01,018 This is Roland Mouret. 730 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:03,979 I loved what he did. 731 00:42:04,063 --> 00:42:05,689 I loved his designs. 732 00:42:08,984 --> 00:42:14,114 At that time, it was my dream to be in the fashion industry, 733 00:42:14,198 --> 00:42:18,202 but I knew that I knew nothing. 734 00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:24,667 We had a manager in common. 735 00:42:26,961 --> 00:42:29,588 And that's how I first met Roland. 736 00:42:33,008 --> 00:42:36,303 They asked me, "Victoria has that dream, 737 00:42:37,471 --> 00:42:38,472 of fashion." 738 00:42:39,598 --> 00:42:44,728 "And she would like… to talk to people about that dream." 739 00:42:44,812 --> 00:42:48,065 And… And I just accepted to meet her. 740 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:56,615 I was going to meet the WAG first. I knew that. 741 00:42:57,116 --> 00:42:59,159 She's labeled herself in that group. 742 00:42:59,827 --> 00:43:02,121 She was not anymore a Spice Girl. 743 00:43:07,334 --> 00:43:10,045 I listened to her story, and she say her story. 744 00:43:10,129 --> 00:43:12,172 She want… She wanted fashion. 745 00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:18,304 But she wanted something specific, but she thought it has to go through fame. 746 00:43:18,387 --> 00:43:20,598 For success, be visible. 747 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:31,900 Two things that you need to become successful in your dreams is, 748 00:43:31,984 --> 00:43:33,569 first, you need to have an ego, 749 00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:37,031 and after, you need to have modesty. 750 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:41,994 You need to have the modesty to accept the reality, 751 00:43:42,077 --> 00:43:46,165 to accept that the team around you that's going to work with you, 752 00:43:46,665 --> 00:43:50,044 you have to respect them because without them, you're nothing. 753 00:43:52,546 --> 00:43:53,964 You will have to learn. 754 00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:56,216 You will have to pick up pins on the floor. 755 00:43:58,886 --> 00:44:00,220 Victoria! 756 00:44:00,304 --> 00:44:03,349 And when she told me her story, I could see that, 757 00:44:03,849 --> 00:44:06,477 yeah, she has an ego, she's Victoria Beckham. 758 00:44:07,895 --> 00:44:12,608 Is she ready to accept the dream… she has? 759 00:44:13,942 --> 00:44:18,489 Roland saw something, I don't know what. 760 00:44:18,572 --> 00:44:22,534 But we connected, and he believed in me. 761 00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:26,580 He was very, very honest, 762 00:44:26,664 --> 00:44:28,582 and he was really, really tough. 763 00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:30,626 -Back up. -Back up, guys. 764 00:44:30,709 --> 00:44:35,589 Why do we want to become public? Why do we want to become recognized? 765 00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:37,299 What is that need? 766 00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:42,930 Most of the time, it's coming from a moment in your life, 767 00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:44,598 maybe because you've been bullied. 768 00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:48,102 You think and you feel you're disappearing or you could disappear, 769 00:44:48,185 --> 00:44:51,480 that you have to do everything to be seen. 770 00:44:56,318 --> 00:44:58,153 And I recognized that in Victoria. 771 00:44:58,237 --> 00:45:03,659 Everything was so here, à fleur de peau we say in French. 772 00:45:03,742 --> 00:45:09,540 It was on the edge of her skin, that anxiety that make her… 773 00:45:09,623 --> 00:45:12,668 Her choice was to control, control, control, control. 774 00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:17,589 Control her weight, control her skin, control her image. 775 00:45:19,299 --> 00:45:21,927 I said, "If you want to be in that industry, 776 00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:23,470 you have to become genuine." 777 00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:28,016 He didn't care if I liked what he said or not, you know? 778 00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:29,226 He just said it. 779 00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:33,772 In the magazine, that's Victoria Beckham. 780 00:45:34,314 --> 00:45:36,442 You need to be Victoria. 781 00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:41,739 The enemy was fear. 782 00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:45,743 And lack of self-esteem. That was the enemy. 783 00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:50,748 I said, to make the dream become reality, 784 00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:56,253 we had to kill the WAG. 63136

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