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Victoria Beckham, the Posh Spice of the Spice Girls,

one of the top-selling female pop groups in history.

Posh Spice, Victoria Adams,

and British soccer star David Beckham are engaged.

He's very sexy, isn't he?

Victoria is not a typical footballer's wife.

Victoria's clearly a very assertive young woman.

From his underwear to her eating habits,

we are spared almost no detail about the lives

of David and Victoria Beckham.

The former Spice Girl has seen her clothing and accessories brand

grow into a business with a £30 million turnover.

A lot of stars simply slap their name on a fashion label

and call themselves designers.

Not Victoria Beckham.

Victoria Beckham Ltd. What's gone wrong there?

The losses have increased to about 12 million in this recent year.

Hubby has bailed her out.

Victoria Beckham,

she's been exhibiting some very diva-like behavior.

I don't think Victoria made it through her talent.

I think she used the media to get to where she is.

Smile! Smile!

The current feeling about her is, "Just give it a rest, love."

I think you just start it when

you don't wanna listen to me.

What?

-When you don't wanna listen to me, you-- -What?

-When you don't wanna listen to me-- -What?

-Right, I've gotta get to work. Love you. -Okay. Love you.

What do you call a bear with no teeth?

What do you call a bear with no teeth?

Gummy bear.

Love you!

He thinks that that's gonna be his moment in the documentary.

It's not about him.

It's about… It's about me.

-Hey, good morning. -How are you?

I'm good, thank you. You inspired my outfit today.

When I saw it the other day, I was like, "Really go fully black."

-Hey, Lara. How are you? Good morning. -I'm okay. How are you?

Did you have a good weekend? Relaxing?

Yeah. Very good. Very chill. You?

Oh my God. We went to hot yoga. I couldn't do it.

Hot yoga is intense, no?

We were in this tent. It looked like a big vagina.

It looked like a vagina, this tent.

Hi, Fig. How are you doing?

When I first started this fashion business 18 years ago,

I didn't know a lot about the industry.

I was scared. I was scared because I loved fashion

and it was always my dream.

But I knew what people thought.

"She was a pop star. She's married to a footballer."

"Who does she think she is?"

-What about if we had less? -Less of the fabric. I agree.

It's just covering that little bit of bum.

I'm sure the fashion industry

liked listening to the Spice Girls at some point.

Maybe. Maybe not.

But I don't think that they saw me as cool at all.

And I get it.

I understand why there's been those preconceptions,

but I never took no for an answer.

That is too high.

This has not been an easy ride.

I mean, I'm lucky I've still got a business,

and I'm not gonna let it slip through my fingers again.

But I do feel the pressure of that,

and that's because I am still judged on every single level

because of where I've come from.

Yo, I'll tell you what I want What I really, really want

So tell me what you want What you really, really want…

The best-selling pop groups of recent years have been mostly male.

-I wanna, I wanna, I wanna… -Ha, ha, ha…

And then, from nowhere, came the Spice Girls.

If you wanna be my lover You gotta get with my friends

Make it last…

Not even the Beatles made a bigger first splash

in this country and around the world

than a pop band that sells "girl power."

When you're feeling…

-Arriba! -Arriba!

We will take you where you gotta go…

It's the best group in the world.

All you need is positivity…

Why do you like the Spice Girls so much?

'Cause they're so cool, and they're so fun,

and they're all about girl power.

Do you ladies believe in girl power?

Yes.

Ah! Shake it to the left…

When people say, "The Spice Girls changed my life,"

"The Spice Girls made me accept who I am and what I am and how I look…"

They did that to me too.

That uncool kid at school that's awkward,

that was me.

They could see me now

That little gang of mine…

I'm eating fancy chow And drinking fancy wine…

I used to love to dance.

I was a performer.

The kind of top-drawer First-rate chums I attract…

I knew every single lyric of every single song in the West End.

He signed his autograph

What a buildup! Holy cow!

They'd never believe it If my friends could see me now

I have a picture of myself when I was really, really young,

and I'm really smiling.

Don't be shocked. I'm really smiling,

with a bright yellow top hat and fishnet tights.

I've always loved dressing up,

loved that part of being onstage.

When I was about seven years old,

I said to my mum, "You've gotta make me a snowman outfit,"

because I wanted to be the main part in "Frosty the Snowman."

And I knew the only way that I would get the part of Frosty the Snowman

is if I told them, "I've got a costume at home," which I didn't.

I don't know how she did that overnight, but she did it.

It was my dream to go to one of those American theater schools,

but the reality was I used to go to dancing classes

in a village hall in Hertfordshire.

I used to enjoy the sense of escapism.

You become someone else.

I was definitely a loner at school.

I was bullied. I was awkward. I wasn't particularly sociable.

I just didn't fit in, at all.

But when you're on stage,

for that moment, you're somebody else,

and I didn't really wanna be me. I didn't like me.

I desperately wanted to be liked.

I'd never thought about being in a pop group.

And then all of a sudden, there was an audition. "Girl band."

I'm Victoria Adams, I'm 19 years old, and I'm from Hertfordshire.

We had to sing a song.

So of course, everybody else was singing Madonna or Whitney Houston.

You know, pop songs.

Lieber Herr…

I chose "Mein Herr" from Cabaret.

Lieber Herr…

I think I'm more eccentric than I ever really realized.

Either that or I'm batshit crazy. I don't know. One or the other.

But the rest is history, really.

We're all working hard, and we're all ambitious,

which is good.

None of us are really that lazy.

And we wanna be on Smash Hits, as well, and Top of the Pops and things like that.

They made me more lighthearted, more fun.

It was the first time that I ever felt that I belonged.

All of a sudden, I was popular.

-Am I having fun? I'm having great… -Ha ha ha ha!

I'm really having fun. I'm having lots of fun.

Yeah, I'm doing something that I've always wanted to do,

and I'm doing it with best friends, and I'm pleased that I'm sharing

all these experiences with my four best friends, basically.

My life would be very different if I hadn't met those four girls.

I remember the girls saying to me, "You're funny. It's okay."

"Be who you are."

-These aren't mine, are they? -These ones are yours.

Amazing.

So we've got your original ones that we tried on the other day,

and then these ones came in yesterday.

-Great. -Yeah.

Absolutely gorgeous.

So much better on the cut there.

Can we go in here and I have a little look?

-Yeah. -Amazing.

Come through, guys.

-So nice. -Yeah, so amazing.

So nice.

The shoulder looks great. The collar's nice and strong.

-I love it. -With the Alina Jean it looks fantastic.

It does look good with these jeans.

The Spice Girls made me feel good enough about being me.

And I tell Harper every single day,

"You follow your dreams, and be who you are."

Like, shoulder, clap.

And then I'm gonna go like that

while you do something.

-A little solo. -I don't like to freestyle.

-No, no, no. Just do like a… -My moves.

Just do like a… Something like that.

-Okay. -Yeah, exactly.

Okay.

Ah, freak out, le freak…

No! No!

-What? -You need to do a dance move.

-Well, could… -So, like, just do something random.

Do your tap dancing. Do, like, the…

-I'm not gonna do my tap-- -No? Okay.

Okay.

-Are you gonna put me through a filter? -Yeah.

What filter do you want me to put it through? I can do this one.

-Oh. I look great in that filter. -It's like… Okay.

Okay.

Ah, freak out

Le freak, c'est chic

Freak out

Freak out

Le freak…

Oh look, she's still got moves. Look at that!

I'm a good… This is a good angle for me as well.

-I really like that one. -Okay. Will you send me that?

You don't wanna kiss me, darling.

You're gonna get my germs.

-I don't mind. -You don't mind?

I've got an immune system like an ox.

Like an ox?

When I met Victoria,

I couldn't find one thing about her I didn't like.

Not one thing. I mean, I can find a few now.

No, back away.

-I'm just saying-- -Back up.

Back then, she was this mythical person.

-You're the posh one. -I wouldn't go that far.

My mum's pleased they're saying that, but I don't think I am.

She's posh compared to the rest of us.

-Hey! -We're in Las Vegas!

At that time, the Spice Girls were so big,

and I was just a footballer in Manchester.

And no one knew that we were dating.

But, in all honesty, I was so excited.

I wanted everyone to know that I was dating Posh Spice.

-You do look gorgeous. -Pardon?

-You look beautiful. -Like my Christmas present?

That looks right.

I wasn't really looking for anything. I was having fun with my friends.

But when I met David, I'd never felt that connection with anybody before.

I fell hard and fell quick.

And within two years of being together,

we were married and with one kid.

We've been married for 25 years,

and we have grown and changed together.

What's going on with this ear?

I can't go to the palace with just one earring in.

David always likes to leave early.

We… we literally went to a birthday party the other day,

and we were there before the host.

It's actually embarrassing.

We were there before even all the waiting staff.

Gorgeous.

Do you want a Wispa?

-Do you want a Wispa? -No, thank you.

I haven't touched chocolate since the '90s. Not gonna start now.

All right. You wanna take this in the car?

-I do, but then what if I spill it? -That's the problem.

You wanna chance it?

Why don't you put it in a sippy cup with a straw?

Should put it through an intravenous drip. Let's be honest.

Gorgeous.

Here's a fact. I've looked miserable… We've got time for this story.

I've looked miserable for all these years because when we stand on the red carpet,

this guy has always gone on the left.

Okay? Now, I didn't realize that when I smile, which I do,

I smile from the left

'cause if I smile from the right, I look unwell.

-So I'm smiling… -I'm not gonna be in this.

I'm smiling on the inside, but no one ever sees it,

so that's why I look so moody.

-Right. You ready? -Thank you.

-You look gorgeous. -You got your ziplock. Classy.

See you later. Where's your jacket?

It's fine.

-Sure? -Where's your jacket?

-It's in the car. -It's fine.

-You don't want your jacket? -No, it's fine.

-See you later. -Bye!

Bye.

I really like it. It looks quite wide.

Is that just because it's come up big on Marcele?

If I was gonna wear that, I'd want it just slimmed down just…

I mean, it… it's just a production comment, maybe.

Do you know what I mean?

I started by creating clothes that I wanted to wear.

Contemporary, effortless,

really focusing on making the garments really, really flattering.

Something that made me feel good, made me feel strong,

and, ultimately, like the best version of myself.

I think it needs to be almost like a straight short.

Don't you think?

For the last six months, I have been preparing

for the biggest fashion show I have ever done.

You're thinking of holding on to that one?

No, no. I'm just… No, I don't care. I love this…

I'm showing in Paris,

the toughest city, with the toughest critics,

amongst the biggest fashion houses in the industry.

I do really like this.

However, on its own, we only tried this one option of that.

I think we should do that again in the other colors.

I think we need to go back and look at every single knit, Lara.

See if there's anything else.

-Yes. -I agree.

Figure out what color leather.

Oh God, sorry. That's your knickers. I'm so sorry.

-Don't pull down her knickers. -Want me to do it?

Not for Netflix!

It's not that kind of movie, is it, Marcele? Christ!

This is the first time

that I've had 600 people at a show in one space.

Beautiful castle.

All the girls are coming down from there, some beautiful stairs.

Fragrance experience. How it looks now.

Where we want the bottle. VIP room.

I've taken on a challenge with a show space.

The big fashion houses build environments

in which they are going to show their collections,

and this is the first time that I'm doing that.

-All of this is painted in the same green. -Yeah.

-So it doesn't look wedding or… -And at night, it'll…

And at night, it's just gonna disappear in the decor…

Paris is the biggest stage that there is.

You get the most press, you get the most attention,

you get the most buyers, you get the most of everything in Paris.

It's just the city where you have the biggest volume.

Paris makes me up my game.

Now, if we wanted to exaggerate this molded detail,

could we exaggerate it, if we wanted to, for show?

Yeah, I think you're right. I think so.

This season is about dressing,

how we all pull out clothes from our wardrobe

and try them on and play with them.

And we've created garments that have been made out of resin,

so we can drape fabrics over the resin,

freeze-framing movement.

But, then, the resin is experimental for us.

I think it's incredibly difficult to make a mark

during Paris Fashion Week or any of the fashion weeks

because fashion is so saturated.

We're so bombarded with stuff.

Only a certain amount will rise to the top.

I've always wanted to do this.

Throughout my life, I've used clothes to become someone else,

be the person that I always wanted to be

that maybe, naturally, I wasn't.

I used to customize the school uniform in the bathroom at lunchtime.

I used to love watching my mum get dressed up.

You know, she really cared and made the best of herself.

I remember my mum saying to me,

"If you dress up to get on the aeroplane,

if there's any chance of being upgraded,

they're always gonna look at who looks the best."

The truth is that there is no first class on budget airlines.

But, you know, my mum did not wear designer clothes.

There was not fashion magazines around when I was younger.

And then the Spice Girls took the blinkers off.

Here we are, in New York.

Look at the taxi. That proves we're in New York.

Pretty early on, we were working with great stylists,

amazing makeup artists,

and I learned so much.

The other girls weren't really into fashion.

That left a really nice budget for me.

We get this budget to get clothes. You know what I end up getting?

A £20 thing from Oxfam, and that's it.

She nicks all my money.

What did you do with all the Spice Girls' clothing budget?

I went to Gucci.

I'd never ever owned a designer garment before,

and so this was so new, so exciting.

If you do put on the perfect dress and it does make you feel a certain way…

You know, that confidence, that feeling was something I wasn't used to.

Fashion became everything.

And I was so excited to be invited to a fashion show.

I'd never been to a fashion show before.

-Do you like my makeup? -I love your makeup.

It's Victoria Beckham.

Cool.

I met Victoria in 1997.

My daughter, she was obsessed with the Spice Girls. I mean, obsessed.

I got invited to go to the Versace show by Donatella.

They got a private plane, for me, to Milan.

I go into the Versace store,

and they tell me that I can get whatever I want.

I'm like, "Well, what's the catch?"

"No, you can get whatever you want." I couldn't… I couldn't believe it.

I selected a black leather dress,

and I remember trying on the dress, looking in the mirror,

and saying to someone in the store,

"I really like the dress,

but how about, you know, let's tighten it here, shorten it here."

"Let's take off the sleeves. How about we do…"

Basically, redesigned the whole dress.

I really can't believe I did that. So rude.

You shouldn't do it.

That's how I feel.

You were… You were surprised?

Yeah, and I thought, "How does she dare?"

Then I realized it was better on her the way she did it.

She knows her body.

Up until this point, everything that I did,

I did with the Spice Girls.

So this was the first time it was about me.

And it was everything I could've dreamt of and so much more.

The lights. The music.

The celebrities.

The energy was incredible.

And that is contagious.

That's where I got the bug.

Does anybody want a water or anything?

Drinks, anyone?

Looking very domesticated.

By the way, don't judge my… don't judge my outfit today.

It's kind of working-from-home day, so it's very casual.

I've been makeup-obsessed since I was very, very little.

What are we doing today?

We have a full list of products…

Every day, I'd go into school,

and they'd send me to the bathroom to take off my makeup.

But in those days, you know, I had such problematic skin.

I remember times when I wouldn't even have the confidence

to look someone in the eye.

I suppose I used it as a mask.

Since before I can remember, I was collecting products that I liked,

products that had been discontinued,

little samples of lipsticks that makeup artists had mixed for me

because we couldn't find the perfect color.

What we really like about this pencil is that it's not white.

I want something that's whiter than that.

I was wearing the white one in my eye, and David said I looked like a lunatic.

And now, with my beauty business,

I can obsess over everything.

What we're figuring out is if it's going to come filled or not.

I don't think that anyone would buy it without anything in it.

It would be done nicely. Think of it as like a makeup bag.

No. I think that's ridiculous.

I think it either has to come with brushes or not at all

because I don't think anyone would just… buy that.

That's fair.

-This texture is much better. -Yeah. I agree.

-I think the execution could be better. -Okay.

And I think it needs to open out better.

We should look at different zip options.

We can get something that's more considered and elegant

and less generic.

I feel an enormous amount of pressure to achieve.

I know what it's like to have something one day

and then lose it all the next.

I went from being up here with the Spice Girls…

Being on tour,

traveling the world.

Everything was so fast.

We were like a tornado.

And then, all of a sudden,

it stopped.

The Spice Girls, Britain's top-earning pop group, have split.

I was a bit upset,

and, actually, I did start crying.

They're best buds. They can't stay together for a couple years?

When the Spice Girls finished, it was so extreme.

One minute, I'm spreading the word of girl power.

And then the next minute, I'm a wife in a flat in Manchester,

not really having any friends, living a long way away from my family.

And I found that transition really, really difficult.

Fireworks for an explosive team.

My life didn't change

because I continued on with my career, and I continued to do what I loved.

A man-of-the-match performance by England's David Beckham.

But it all changed for her, and I think that was…

At the time, I didn't realize how hard that was for her.

I felt so blessed to be married to David.

I had this amazing relationship, this amazing little baby,

but it felt quite slow.

It felt really lonely.

And I remember thinking,

"God, is anybody gonna want to put me on a plane

and do a photoshoot again?"

And I just kept thinking, "What am I gonna do?"

Part of me felt, "Well, you need a rest."

"Take this rest, and then you'll come up with an idea of what you wanna do next."

That was what… That's what I thought.

Whereas,

I don't think she's patient enough for that.

Victoria Beckham, better known as Posh Spice,

is making her first solo bid for the number-one slot.

Birmingham's used to royal visits, and today it rolled out the red carpet

as the queen of celebrity herself arrived.

If you take a look at the papers this morning,

you'll see this woman on virtually every single one.

This is Posh Spice, a woman who's hardly out of the headlines.

When the Spice Girls finished, I was kind of on autopilot,

so I continued working on music.

Performing was all I knew how to do.

Are celebs the new aristocracy?

Victoria Beckham. Is that the new--

I don't think Victoria Beckham's new anything, you know?

She's got that sort of used look.

At that point, people were questioning, the media were questioning

what was I doing?

And I didn't really know what I was doing.

I have been knocked a lot, and people have said,

"Can't sing, can't dance," which…

I always say, "Oh, it doesn't bother me," but it does. I'm only human.

I'd be lying if I said I was the best singer or dancer.

But when people are mean,

and you're hearing things and you're seeing things,

and you're constantly made to feel you're not good enough,

that really hurts.

Victoria!

And I became so self-conscious.

When I first met Victoria,

she was smiley, she was bubbly, she was confident.

But that started to disappear.

People thought I was that miserable cow that never smiled,

and they're not wrong.

Together, they are greater than the sum of their parts.

He's fantastically talented. She wears a lot of clothes.

Beckham is wonderful in what he does.

Madam Beckham comes along, wearing virtually nothing,

and steals the photograph, steals the occasion.

And she's just a common little bitch.

Victoria!

-Jackie. -Sorry?

You're gonna be in here.

Today's a… Can you take these?

So we're gonna…

-I'll do you a gin. -I can do it.

-That's vodka. -Oh, good.

That just goes to prove I can't do it.

-Here's the gin. -Oh, wow.

I don't know how much to pour.

I mean, the lies.

-There you go. -We bought you these for your birthday.

-I know you did. -They've got "VB" on them.

-They've got "VB" on them. -Which is very nice.

There used to be that newspaper called The Stage.

-Course. -I used to circle the ads.

And I auditioned for Cats and…

-Starlight Express. -…Starlight Express.

I think you got a callback for Starlight Express.

The irony 'cause I can't skate.

But when I circled the Spice Girls…

-Remember? -I've still got that paper.

-Have you? -Yep.

Yeah.

I used to keep all the cuttings. The good, bad, and the ugly. I used to keep them.

It was very hard, reading bits in the paper about you

because they were vicious, weren't they?

A lot of the stuff was really, really bad.

That was really hard.

You were always strong.

We always knew the truth. As a family, we knew the truth.

And we all had faith in you.

But I think it's having such a strong family unit

that always used to help me get through those things

because I remember, you know,

we went through every single thing together,

whether it was in London,

or whether you'd jump on a plane and you'd come out to Spain.

We moved to Spain, for David's career.

I met Victoria in Madrid.

My husband at the time was an athlete, and…

I don't even know if he knew David,

but we went to a Real Madrid game,

and David was there, and he said, "Oh my God, my wife loves your show."

I want you to casually mention how much I paid for your necklace.

Why don't I pin the receipt to my chest?

I knew who she was, and she always looked like fun.

We come from such different backgrounds, but we have so much in common.

I didn't know what "WAG" was.

I remember seeing in a press clipping that I was a WAG.

"What the fuck is that?"

Wives and girlfriends.

It's hard when you're married to an athlete because the world idolizes them.

There's an assumption that goes with being a wife or a girlfriend,

is that you're a gold digger,

you don't have a job,

you just wanna look pretty and spend money.

People would introduce themself going, "Hi, I'm so-and-so's wife,"

and I would go, "Right. What's your name?"

It was like, "Ugh! How could you have a job?"

"Your job is to support your husband."

David Beckham says England are relishing their quarter-final contest

against Portugal on Saturday.

The England team are, in fact, getting plenty of support here in Germany

because the FA have shipped out their wives and girlfriends

to cheer them on.

Look… it was fun.

I have been witness to many transformations of Victoria.

One, two, three Take my hand and come with me

Because you look so fine…

I had big boobs. I had big hair.

When you're younger,

you're like, "Fuck it. I'm gonna take all these fashion risks,"

and you can, and it's fun.

It was a moment in time.

We were the WAGs, and they were the HABs.

Husbands… Husbands and boyfriends.

The World Cup may not have been won yet,

but in the glamour stakes, England's WAGs have emerged victorious.

Us ladies were shopping, and we were owning it.

I remember seeing one of these wives

that had bought so many designer clothes and had so many bags,

she couldn't get in the revolving doors at the Baden-Baden hotel.

I look at those pictures, and I smile.

But when I look back and think, "Why?"

I suppose there was an element of attention-seeking,

if I'm being completely honest.

It was at a time when I didn't feel creatively fulfilled,

so it's how I stayed in the conversation.

From Spice Girls to WAGs.

I didn't realize it at the time,

but I was trying to find myself.

I felt… incomplete,

sad,

frozen in time… maybe.

I was appreciative of what I had,

but I need a sense of purpose.

And I remember saying to myself,

"If I ever get an opportunity again,

I'm not gonna lose it."

"I'm not gonna lose it again."

There's stairs here.

Models come down here, they walk down this way, they go around.

Photographer's down there.

We are starting to plot out our seating plan.

Who needs to be sat where, who's front row, who's not front row,

who's sat next to who.

We start with something, and it mutates.

In under 48 hours,

we've gotta pack up this entire place and go to Paris.

-I deleted a whole WhatsApp. -You sure you didn't archive it?

Yeah, I think this is the best match for the boot.

Hello. Hi, darling.

At the same time, I have to say, maybe this is because Marcele…

So Sunday, now, with the final schedule,

it's just the production team with me traveling to Paris

to make sure the beginning of the installation goes well

and goes smoothly.

I wanna make sure that this is the best picture of themselves they've ever seen.

So we will really control the lights, and the mood is…

It's a big, big, big round space, so we can have…

Space in the entrance.

-Happy with the fit? Yeah? -Yeah.

Perfect. Then, like I said, we'll do a final length in Paris.

-Perfect. -Okay. Good. You're happy with that?

-Very happy. -Just do a length.

Do you want something to eat, darling?

I am quite hungry, actually.

I've been a pit bull. We're looking at budgets.

-It's skyrocketing. -I have ideas for you.

Doors open at 8:00.

Show's 8:30,

but realistically, by the time it starts, it's 9:00.

I might put, like, all the VIPs, they'd all be on this long shot here.

Look, I trust you with this. I know that this is such a nightmare.

You're dealing with the politics. I'm not underestimating this at all.

When I got the white suit the other day, the bra was still pinned.

Oh my God, I'm sorry.

It's not a problem because it's me,

but it is a problem if it happens in Paris.

To be given the opportunity to show in Paris is a big deal.

When I first started showing, 17 years ago,

even in my wildest dreams,

I don't think I could've dreamt it would have gone this far.

They have arrived.

Thousands of fans turned out to welcome the newest member

of the LA Galaxy soccer team.

Soccer great David Beckham and wife Victoria,

better known as Posh Spice to some,

flew into LA Thursday.

Waiting for the latest "it" couple,

a horde of press and photographers.

The minute that we landed in America,

it felt like a fresh start.

It was like we escaped.

You're a million miles away

from whatever anybody might be saying about you.

Clearly she is famous. People are saying she's not that famous.

Victoria Beckham has found her spiritual home.

A land of size-zero beach bodies, and Botox.

Even if they were saying horrible things in the UK, I wasn't really aware of it.

I was in the sunshine. I was hiking with my kids.

-Daddy, say "action." -Action.

-Action. -No! Mummy!

As much as we'd moved to LA for my career,

the focus was less on me,

and it gave her confidence.

A lot more than she'd had for a long time.

We were so happy in America.

Goal!

The kids were little. We found great schools for the children.

And I just decided it was time

to really focus on what I want as well.

I think she had an epiphany.

Victoria!

She started trying to define, for herself, who she wanted to be,

and what she could do, and what was possible.

I realized it's okay to want more for yourself.

I wanted to really have this creative outlet.

I wanted to work in fashion.

-Victoria! -Victoria!

Marc Jacobs, he is a designer that I have so much respect for.

I went to his show in 2007,

and afterwards, he wrote me a letter

asking me to be in his campaign,

shot by Juergen Teller.

She suddenly appeared in the front row of a Marc Jacobs fashion show,

and, uh, everybody said, "Oh my God, there's Victoria Beckham."

"What is she doing here?"

In the night, Marc called me up and says,

"What do you think about using Victoria Beckham for the campaign?"

I was very excited to… to do the shoot.

We always had people,

like, who we deeply admired in what they artistically did,

whether it was Kim Gordon or Charlotte Rampling,

these so-called cool people.

So when I talked to my team,

they thought, "Oh my God, she doesn't fit at all in this."

"Why are you doing this? That's completely wrong."

She was, at the time,

probably the most-photographed woman in the world.

I thought, "How am I gonna do this?"

And everybody… everybody in the industry's opinion

was that she was always in these paparazzi pictures

and always so kind of grumpy and serious and didn't have a sense of humor.

And I thought, "Hmm. This is something I could think about."

"What are we selling here?"

When I first saw those pictures,

I was horrified.

It was very much poking fun at me.

And that's when I realized I was a laughingstock.

No one took me seriously in this industry.

I knew I wanted to be a designer, I knew I had a point of view,

but I also knew that I needed someone to believe in me.

-Coming through. -Thank you, Victoria.

-What are you wearing tonight? -Roland Mouret.

It's Roland Mouret.

This is Roland Mouret.

I loved what he did.

I loved his designs.

At that time, it was my dream to be in the fashion industry,

but I knew that I knew nothing.

We had a manager in common.

And that's how I first met Roland.

They asked me, "Victoria has that dream,

of fashion."

"And she would like… to talk to people about that dream."

And… And I just accepted to meet her.

I was going to meet the WAG first. I knew that.

She's labeled herself in that group.

She was not anymore a Spice Girl.

I listened to her story, and she say her story.

She want… She wanted fashion.

But she wanted something specific, but she thought it has to go through fame.

For success, be visible.

Two things that you need to become successful in your dreams is,

first, you need to have an ego,

and after, you need to have modesty.

You need to have the modesty to accept the reality,

to accept that the team around you that's going to work with you,

you have to respect them because without them, you're nothing.

You will have to learn.

You will have to pick up pins on the floor.

Victoria!

And when she told me her story, I could see that,

yeah, she has an ego, she's Victoria Beckham.

Is she ready to accept the dream… she has?

Roland saw something, I don't know what.

But we connected, and he believed in me.

He was very, very honest,

and he was really, really tough.

-Back up. -Back up, guys.

Why do we want to become public? Why do we want to become recognized?

What is that need?

Most of the time, it's coming from a moment in your life,

maybe because you've been bullied.

You think and you feel you're disappearing or you could disappear,

that you have to do everything to be seen.

And I recognized that in Victoria.

Everything was so here, à fleur de peau we say in French.

It was on the edge of her skin, that anxiety that make her…

Her choice was to control, control, control, control.

Control her weight, control her skin, control her image.

I said, "If you want to be in that industry,

you have to become genuine."

He didn't care if I liked what he said or not, you know?

He just said it.

In the magazine, that's Victoria Beckham.

You need to be Victoria.

The enemy was fear.

And lack of self-esteem. That was the enemy.

I said, to make the dream become reality,

we had to kill the WAG.